Fore Play - Bye Bye Cam Smith ft. Callum Tarren

Episode Date: September 1, 2022

LIV defectors. Smith gone. Callum Tarren joins (2:02:21) & breaks down the Tour’s brutal orientation. Hideki stays. Frankie’s caught in a public pickle. Rap reveals he’s colorblind.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Today's show is, I believe, September 1st, 2020, and I went to September, kind of a weird time for golf, PGA tour done for like two and a half weeks. We got Labor Day weekend coming up, so I imagine this show will be consumed by many who are on their way to holiday. Anybody got big holiday plans? I know Rapp's going to Vegas for his bachelor party.

I'm going to Colorado. My family lives in Colorado. my brother's driving out with his family. So we're going to have, you know, nephew, niece, family, grandparents, brother, sister, all kinds of people hanging out. I think Frankie's going out that way as well. Is that right? I'll be in Colorado as well.

Yep. We've got Devon Taze's cup celebration. I'm going to attend and watch from a distance. I will not be participating in any celebratory events. I actually was going out to Colorado regardless. We've got some family out there in Colorado. So we're going for Labor Day. I love going out there.

I like to go out there two or three times a year. It's probably, I think it's Trent's favorite state in the entire world. My mom is from Colorado. There you go. It's a beautiful state. My whole life. I love Colorado.

I think it's a consensus that Foreplay loves Colorado. So we're going out there. It happens to be the cup will be there. Taves, I went to his wedding or a turtleneck. He says that because of that, I owe it to him to go to his celebration. So I'll be there.

And you know what? I'm not going to take it as like a hurrah. You guys won the cup. I'm taking it as like, how can we be better and how do I get here one day? A scouting trip. Scouting mission out to Colorado? It is. And if he thinks he's taking a picture with me with it, that thing's going to see the concrete.

So I don't have any plans as of right now. But the more I think about it, I might also go to Colorado, maybe not tell Frankie, although it sounds like I'm telling him right now and try to get him in a picture with the cup that I can put out on Twitter because it does bring to mind. Is there even a point to go? know you want to support your guy, Devon Taves, but the reason that you're going or the reason that he's having something is something that you are not willing to be in a picture with. So are you going to be in the background with binoculars?

Like, congratulations, Devon Taves, but you're going to be in like Nevada or whatever states are next to Colorado. Yeah, it looks like the Stanley Cup up there. I told him very straight. I told him very simply I will not be participating in pictures. That's kind of, but there's going to be so many pictures. What if he's in front of like a lot of people and he calls you up there and it's like a big moment? you're just going to be like, no, I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. Thanks. No thanks. It's just different because like we traded him. Like he's an islander. It's just there's a lot that's

going on in the whole story. He happens to be a really good friend. I'm really happy for him and his family, his new son, the whole thing. He gets to be in the cup. It's like going to be an amazing day. I am a personal good friend of Devon. So like I do want to see all that stuff. I want to see his like son sitting in the cup and like his wife and everyone celebrating. Like that's fun. I don't want to be a part of the celebration of them winning a Stanley Cup. It does make it a little easier that it is a Western Conference team, but that's like, that's not how I was built. That's not what I was, that's not what this is.

I don't watch hockey for fun and, and for enjoyment. I watch it for life. Would you take a picture with him during his cup celebration, but without the cup? Or just no pictures with him at all. It's just, I just won't, I'll barely see him. I'll barely see him. I want, like, I've got, I don't know. Devante's nearly as well as you do, but we've gone back and forth in the DMs and, you know,

we follow each other on Twitter. I would love to show up and just dunk my head in the Stanley Cup. That'd be great. That would be great. I think he should. I think a neutral fan that's like the greatest thing. And don't get me wrong. I feel honored to be invited to this thing. It's like the greatest honor of all time to be able to, you know, they only get, I mean, 25 guys, maybe they add more people who ever played on the team, but like only a select amount of guys get a day with the Stanley Cup and you have to earn it. And he's inviting us to one of these things. That's pretty cool. So I'm not taking that lightly. I just won't. I'm not celebrating with him. I'm just there. I'm not, I don't want it to be known that I'm celebrating. You're there as a friend. You're there as a friend.

It's like going to like, maybe you don't like your buddy's like wife and you still go to their wedding. It's like you're not celebrating that, but you're like there for you. Do you refuse to take pictures with the, with the, with the wife? It's just like you're just like not really happy. Excellent. You're not happy about it. I'll come to the wedding, but I will not be seen in the frame with the bride under no circumstances. I, I'm going to go ahead and say that getting a picture without Devon Taves in the cup is, is impossible for you this weekend coming up. It's impossible. I know that that's true. That's why you're going. I can't. No, I know. It's also, you're making it very clear now, like everyone that's there that's familiar with what we do to any degree, which I imagine will be a substantial number of people,

know that the target goal for the weekend is to get Frankie Burelli in a photograph with the Stanley Cup and perhaps Devon Taze. And there's just, going to be people with cameras and phones and pictures going out all the time. It's the Stanley fucking Cubs going to be there. It's a Stanley Cub. I'll get very aggressive and angry and cause a scene. It's going to be bad. No, I know it's going to be bad.

I'm like angry. A couple cocktails, you know, you might lose full control of situation. Well, I wanted to come out in front of it because if that does happen, if like a picture's taken, a stray angle, like I want everyone to know my intentions are to be aggressively away from the cup and not be near it. I'm a New York Islanders fan. This is my team. I will not celebrate the Stanley Cup until my team has won it.

That is the way that I exist. Dude, you know what you should do? Wear a disguise. Yeah, just grow up my mustache again. No, you maybe put a mask on. Just make sure that you don't look like you and then you can do whatever you want. I had like Islanders tell me if they see me in a picture with the cup.

It's like don't even show up to UBS. It's like they don't even want, you know what I mean? They don't want me there. So we'll see. It is the cup, though. It's an all-time day that you know, it's the guy's day with the Stanley Cup. What dreams are made of. Oh, how cool is that be?

I mean, it's, yeah, it's, it's Justin Thomas, like, inviting you to hang out with the watermaker. And, you know, I mean, it's, it's that, it's that cool. I just know. Because you have team allegiance. Get it. Your team's never won the cup during your lifetime. We get that. So it's dramatically different.

But it's, then it's just like, why go? You know, why show up at all? I just know that it's, I'm not letting it happen. Why don't you send a card? Why don't you send like a congratulations? Because I said we're already going out there. Send a carmen cutout on yourself. We're already going out there.

Maybe this podcast will stop me from getting invited. Maybe he's going to disinvite me. I'm already going out there. I got golf plan in Colorado. I'm like, I'm going out to Colorado one way or another. If the cup happens to be there, maybe I see it. But I'm going to Colorado. I got to change this light situation.

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Last minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. Frankie, what is the Islander's record all time in their new rank? It's bad. I mean, I don't know. They lost the first fucking 11 games there, whatever it was. I was at the first win. Yeah. I was at the UBS.

I was there for their first win. And I think it was their 12th game there. Let him get out of that seat, dude. They went out of the seat. They went out of 11 games. I'm pretty sure it was without a win. We went on game time. We got tickets right on the glass.

Trent Daddy was in the building. Brock Nelson was laughing at him. Brock Nelson at one point was like looking across the ice. And then after the game, I got text. Like, was that Trent Daddy in Section 107? Like, just so funny. He's like, the boys were buzzing on the bench that Trent Daddy was in attendance. Like gave us our first win.

And then for the rest of the season was like, when is Trent in town? We have a game. They're looking at Trent's schedule being like, is Trent able to make it? Because they knew like, all right, we had a bad like start. But if Trent's in the building, we can win. Would it be weird if I wore a Brock Nelson jersey? No. Remember last podcast when you guys said that you guys weren't going to talk about hockey until the playoffs?

Dude, Danny, this is what I'm telling you. These guys love hockey. And they love to bringing it up early on. It's like we're still talking about hockey. Tread has no idea he's going to like 13 games of me this year because he lives right next to me. So obviously we're going to be carpooling to the game. I'm in. Yeah.

Every game I go to you're going to. Every game I go to you're going to. And he's going to be at the conference. party on Friday so it's just he's got all kinds of hockey yeah I don't know if I'm gonna go to that the more I keep thinking makes me stick my stomach Trit you doing a staycation Long Island this weekend Yeah I think so I had I had no plans I didn't even know it was Labor Day weekend coming up that was that flew right under my radar So I'm just gonna kick it here maybe play some golf and you know that's it question do we have Thrones on Sunday night still you got to leave so they can't be they can't be going

break third week. They don't care about labor? No, they've got to be running an episode. They've got too much moments. I watched it, by the way, you guys. I watched it on the plane over here. I told you guys that I would and I watched it. It was good.

It was restrained. It was a lot, what you talked about before. Like, when the two dragons were there, I was like, are they really going to just start breathing fire? But no, it was just a show of force. I liked that. Yeah, it was. It was a lot of politicking.

It was a lot of posturing, I felt like, which is old school thrones. It was like, I thought Frankie made an amazing point about how like they didn't need to jump all over and wow you. It really kept you glued in the whole time by basically one decision, sort of like the whole show. And you moved a little bit to different areas. But even then it was the same character, same decision, same talking points, same kind of rustling. It was super uncomfortable character after character being put into decisions where put two decisions where neither one is in any way a good decision. it makes you the listener or the viewer extremely uncomfortable. So Thrones is, yeah, as good as it gets from just like an episode that not a ton actually happened.

So yeah, I'm glad you caught up. Yeah, it's got to be Sunday night. Yeah. For sure. Any other answer? Okay, we got, we're going to have, and we don't usually like to announce until we actually interview people. So if he doesn't come on, then we'll just delete this part. But Collum Taryn, who we met for the first time at the 3M open in the second half of our pro-AM.

who's a total legend, English guy, jumped on the show after and was hilarious for like 15 or 20 minutes and had a great story about playing, God, playing on like the Asian tour. What was it like when they brought the alligator in on a leash to like the restaurant he was at?

I mean, he told phenomenal stories. The story about leading the U.S. Open and then his buddies being like, they're so biased. They won't even show you. And then him telling us like, or him telling his buddies like, no, no, it's not that they're biased

that they legitimately, wanted me to play slower so that they could actually get the camera set up and I play so fast that I just hit shots that they just couldn't get my shots on television. So he's great. And he and I have been going back and forth a lot on DMs. He's over in the UK. So he's like a million hours ahead, especially me in Arizona. But I believe we're going to record that. So he'll be on the show. And then other than that, we're doing a weird Tuesday night recording. We got people traveling all over the place per usual. So we're doing a Tuesday night recording. It's probably going to be a little bit wacky. It's probably going to be a little bit weird. We might request

call-ins. We're going to go through a bunch of from the galleries. First, we got to do some logistical stuff. So Kansas, if you're in fucking Kansas, you're listening to the show, I love Kansas. My dad does a bunch of bird hunting in Kansas when he drives through there. We are live in Kansas, Barstville Sportsbook. So you can, starting now, when this show has gone live in Kansas, I don't know what time. I don't know if it's at like noon. I don't know if it's at midnight, Wednesday to Thursday.

I don't really know. But Thursday, Kansas, Barstville Sportsbook live. So fire that puppy up on that. app get involved all kinds of fun you can bet with barstool you could bet with part of my take for play whoever um so get involved in the barstrel sports book we love that here's a fun a fact about kansas in 1905 helium was discovered in kansas is that right yeah how how do you discover he so no balloons no balloons before 1905 then exactly they just only said only that element wasn't like just wasn't known right because that element always existed but you got to someone has to to discover it, but I don't know how.

Did you know that helium is the only thing on Earth that's not a renewable natural resource? So once we are done with it, it's over. Oh, it's finite. That's all we got. Yeah. And helium shortages are a real thing. How is that the only one? Yeah.

It's the only thing on Earth. It just disappears. So we do Frankie Facts, but it's basically facts before fiction. facts before fiction. So like it's a fact until we find out it's just been false. So I'm reading right off Google here that he goes in 1905 helium was discovered at the University of Kansas. However, humanity has used up most of it.

And it's the only thing on earth that's not a renewable natural resource. Never heard that. I feel like helium was around quite a bit. My dad. And I never knew that it was such a precious resource. Do it is. And it gets expensive when there's a shortage of it. Like if they have to like, if it's scarce and it.

a certain area or whatever because my dad can't get fucking helium at the restaurant when he's got to blow up all the balloons for all these parties he has like engagement parties and birthday parties and there's like these ridiculous helium shortages where they go i feel like a year without being able to get like those helium tanks back in the restaurant it's crazy dude are there any practical uses for helium outside of blowing the balloons making children it is making our voices Helium. Helium is used to detect leaks such as in car air conditioning systems and because it diffuses quickly, it is often used to inflate car airbags after impact. Well, so at a certain point, you guys are allocating the helium to the cars as opposed to the balloons because balloons... Borelli's fucking balloon parties.

I disagree. I think children's happiness is pretty important for society. Not if the children are dead because they just got smoked by a fucking air. bag that does it's not like you can't blow up balloons like without helium you can use your mouth you could use the lungs i guess you could also use a pump to blow up a a car tire is that what it was for i don't know i just don't know if i can't believe that helium is a is a finite thing so where is it where is all the helium oh i don't know but the other really interesting fact is that it is an extremely windy city uh kansas's dodge city is like the most windy city it's got uh an average of 14 miles an hour throughout the entire year of wind.

So they're just constantly getting beat by wind the entire year. That's a solid two club wind right there. Plug into the sun. Isn't the sun just made of like helium and hydrogen basically, that whole fucking giant ballpark? Where is all the helium? Oh. The world's supply of helium is still located in just a handful of countries,

United States, Algeria and Qatar. Wow. Awesome. Awesome birthdays in all those places. Do you guys say Cutter or Qatar? I think I say Qatar, but I think it is Cutter, right? I don't know. Because we got the problematic Olympics coming up there, right?

No, World Cup. World Cup. World Cup. That's this one coming up. That's this one. Dude, I didn't even realize we have fucking, we have USA England on the Friday, Black Friday, right? Yeah. Having the World Cup be when there's not like serious golf going on is really, really awesome.

Oh, dude, it's going to be great. The fact that it's in like the early winter, late fall, that's insanity. Yeah. The final was on my 28th birthday. Danny, would you go to the World Cup? Yeah. Is this like a, is this like a trick question about like, would you go like because of like the problematic stuff? Are you just genuinely, genuinely curious?

Do you think we're that complex here, buddy? I don't know. It's a loaded question. It's a bit of a mind field. Yeah, I would go. I would definitely go. that would be awesome dude this game's at like this game's at noon are you kidding me are you kidding yeah it's just gonna yeah it's incredible it's gonna be awesome it's gonna be really yeah england united

states of america noon it looks like on fucking black friday i don't know if that's local i don't believe i think i think it is noon eastern i think they probably scheduled that game knowing that it was going to do one direction numbers in the united states okay so it looks like uh yeah i think that's right I think that's my time noon, so it might be 2 or 3 p.m. Even better. Standard time. Holy moly, that's going to be fun.

That's going to be really fun. All right. A couple programming notes. We have the beginning of the travel series. I think if the voice from the gods, it might be Jake Bass right now, can confirm that. But I believe the travel series press switch. Yes, sir. First one will come out Thursday night.

We're probably targeting 8 p.m. Eastern time. Is that correct, Jake Bass? Yes, sir. Right after Barcel versus America. So Barstle versus America at seven, go right into Prestwood. Surviving Barstool. There you go. I do also want to follow up.

I saw a couple people were wondering about the Kisner Barstool Classic situation. What happened was that we had to push it back one day. So we were like, oh, Wednesday to Thursday. Then we forgot that the PJ Tour does not like or really permit us, if you will, to post videos of us playing golf with PGA Tour professionals while they're turks. are airing so we couldn't post it Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. We probably could have, but out of respect, we've had a good relationship with them over the last few years. We decided to wait and then post it on Monday. So the Kisner video, we thought it'd be a

one-day delay, ended up being a five-day delay. That's the answer for that. People are still viewing it. It's doing well. Everybody loves Kizzi. He drives a needle late. No hobby gear, the whole fucking situation. So that's the programming note there. And then Scotland, watch Surviving Barsville at 7 p.m. and then watch Presswick, Scotland, the whole deal. We enter Scotland. We get there. We arrive. I don't have my bags.

We're staying at Donald Links. We're playing Presswick, which is the first ever shot in major championship golf ever, fucking ever was hit at Presswick. And then we're just on the same tee hitting the shot. There's a whole train down the right side. That's just OB. The wind's hard off left.

Little teaser. Somebody hits it OB. So you're going to want to watch the entire thing. I'm going to have to watch it. I think that's required watching for me. I think I need to for like, you know, market research. Yes. For sure.

And then I think breaking 90 is going to be the following like Monday or Tuesday. We're going to move that. I think we might have breaking 90 on different days now because for the next two or three months is just going to be like or two months is going to be just a ton of travel series videos and Thursdays. Yeah, I think we have six weeks worth of Scotland travel series. So we might have to shift. We might be doing breaking 90s on Tuesdays and Scotland on Thursdays. That is my understanding. And this Tuesday.

Just keep fucking coming. Let's get to a point where every day of the week we're just releasing videos on YouTube. Right. And if it's this Tuesday, it's must watch. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. This is the one you hyped up that you guys filmed yesterday. Mm-hmm.

Don't spoil anything off camera, on camera. I don't want to know shit. I go in blind. I'm excited to watch. We're going to premiere. This is attempt like eight. Yeah. Okay.

Wow. Yep. When you, when you started it, what number did you think? Like, how many did you think? tries you do you think you're going to need yeah that's a good question i don't know if i ever had a number i feel like you probably didn't get to double digits i probably thought like five or six i don't mean to be rude i'm just asking i will say that after the first episode which we did at sea way and i shot a 98 i was like oh this is you know i was thinking it would happen relatively click relatively quickly

um quickly relatively quickly so i don't know i guess i didn't think about it but i thought maybe double digits. So yeah, it didn't really cross my mind, I guess. I never, I never gave it a ton of thought. I was hoping that would happen in the process. You're just, you know, you're not, you're not concerned with results. No, I can't look in the future. I just got to, you know, work with what's in front of me. Trying to see how good you guys poker faces are. If there's anything that we could learn from this. I got to watch. Frankie's skin tone. Usually he looks just dead and then Trent's not really good. I don't know what's going on my face today. I have a shiny cheek like I'm in Toy Story. You see this thing? You look like Woody. Look at this. Look at that shiny-ass cheek.

Look at that. Look at that right there. You know what? When Woody, when they like burn him, when Sid burns Woody on his forehead. That's what I have right now. You look like a toy. You guys talk. I'm going to fix my lighting. You look like a toy who's being burned with a magnifying glass by a mean, mean kid that lives next door.

And then the other thing we've got, no, I think that's it. We have Kansas and we have the video coming out and then we'll have column tarant. So those are my big fucking, you know, programming notes. All right. We got news to get into. Um, so live golf, 54 golf, which is a very, I do, I do like that there's different names you can call it now, depending on how much you respect you have for the league. Like Jay Monahan just calls it the Saudi league whenever he releases a statement. And then you call it live if you're pretty like just normal or whatever. And then some people call it 54 golf because it is just preposterous that the name of, it is the Roman numeral for the number of holes that they play, but nobody calls it the Roman Newman would be like if, yeah, if you just called it like Super Bowl XI or something, it's like not, that's not what you say. You call it the number.

So it's very interesting. But live golf defectors, the latest we have, one, two, three, four, five, six guys. I think that kind of what we were speaking about, Danny did a great job in his blog today going through kind of what this means and breaking it down. and I thought one of your comments really rang true to me, which was that like Cam Smith and a few of the others, this would be incredibly big news if it weren't for the fact that this was something

that we all kind of knew already. Cam Smith is arguably the most important player they've signed like narrative-wise because, you know, Phil was obviously a huge splash, but for the last year he hadn't been playing very good golf. You know, DJ, despite the fact that he could flip a switch and win two majors next year, you know, wasn't playing great. Brooks kind of the same way. Cam Smith is at the top of the sport. I mean,

he's won two of the five hardest tournaments to win this year. He's 28 years old. I mean, there's no argument to be made that this guy's past his prime or doesn't care about winning. Like, he's just a guy at the top of the sport who they were able to bring over. So, yeah, if that news dropped today instead of a couple weeks ago that he was going to go, the sort of tenor of this conversation, I think, would be very different. Has there ever been any clarity on terms of on how long these deals are. That's the one thing I have no idea about. It's like in the three to four year range is sort of the standard.

Yeah, because if you're Cam Smith, you sign a three-year deal, you're going to be 31 by the time this thing is over. I don't know how much they gave them, but I'm sure it was an insane amount of money. I would be curious to know once the three-year deal is up, would a guy like that be allowed back on the PGA tour? I think if you are the PGA tour and it gets to a point where it's been three years, the contracts have played out, either the guy doesn't want to renew or whatever,

there's got to be some sort of path back, right? Like, you're really just going to hold a grudge against the best players in the world for for 10 years. Like, I just can't see a scenario in which that happens. While they're currently competing, it's different. But if it's a scenario where a guy's done it and he said, listen, you know, I tried this, I didn't love it. I want to come back.

I don't think it's in the, I don't know, but maybe it's a deterrent to keep them from going in the first place. I don't know, but I can't see it being like a lifelong ban. Um, fun fact, helium makes up about 24% of the mass of the entire universe. Think about that of the entire universe. 24%? 24% of the mass of the entire universe is made up by it. So if we keep using it, does the mass decline?

It must. Or does it transform into some other mass, right? Because isn't mass like, it's done? Mass is just, mass is, it, the, there's a number of mass. Correct. So it's not like you're deleting mass. Like we talked about this like when,

when if Trent eats an enormous dinner, let's say we go to Indian food with Trottie. And we like and you eat huge mass. The mass of that, that like the total mass in that room hasn't changed. It's just transformed from. Oh, it's changed. So food is presented on the table to like just shit in Trent's like,

loins. So if there's two pounds of food in front of Trent or anyone else, but in this hypothetical, Trent, you're welcome. If there's two pounds of food in front of him and then he eats those two pounds of food and then you put him on a scale, would he be exactly two pounds heavier? Or is there some sort of is something lost in like the chewing? Well, I think they're saying like the amount of mass on the earth doesn't change because like even no matter how you concoct it, like it's going into Trent, going out of Trent. It was already there. It's all the same amount of. mass. But my question is, what about when you like reproduce humans? Like if we just keep making humans, that's

mass that wasn't accounted for, right? No, because that mass is going. That's why we're all like star dust, right? Like, it's just going from, there's like random helium and star dust and stuff that somehow like was materialized into like sperm and then an egg and then turn into a person and now you've got fucking truck walking around eating sour patch. If you create, if you create Trent out of, if you create

Trent out of sperm, the Earth has gained a significant amount of mass. No? Well, no, because Trent is, is, he's powering things in his path that are turning him into a larger mass. You know what I'm saying? It's not like you put Trent in a vacuum. He just turns into Trent. He's like, he's like, I don't, I actually, I don't understand how, yeah, creating a human being isn't more mass. That doesn't compute with my brain. I'll tell you that. that because like you're telling me that like like you're telling me that person like growing inside of

the mother and all that like she needs to like eat more and consume more and that's like being transformed into Trent Ryan so you're telling me that the mass of earth you're not changed you're telling me that the mass from earth is not changed from now where everything's ridiculously populated even though Elon Musk says that we're failing at population repopulating is not any different from when there was just one caveman walking around. There were a lot more trees. Think about it that way.

What about the dinosaurs? What about the dinosaurs? How fucking heavy they were? But they just, but then they're, we're putting them into our cars now. No. So yeah, they never left.

They never left. Oh, I was about to say something real stupid. What are we talking about? What are we doing? That's actually coming from dinosaurs. Is that what you're about to say? Or is that a joke? That's legit.

Did you guys see those dinosaur footprints that they found the other day? So gas and oil is just decomposed fossils? Yeah. That's what oil is. Yeah. It has nothing to do with like it was already there. It's all just decomposition. I mean, there might be some.

There might be some, I don't know. I really don't know. But I know that a lot of... Holy fuck, boys. What we're told is that it's like, you know, when creatures die, that that's how their energy is transferred. Okay, so here's this. This is a big moment. Scientists estimate that Earth gains about 40,000 tons of material each year from the accretion of meteoric dust and debris from space.

Wow. So they just tap in more? They also estimate that about 95,000 tons of hydrogen gas are lost from the Earth's atmosphere to outer space each year. So it doesn't appear that it's like human to like Indian food related. and Trent growing bigger, it's attributed to like apparently meteoric stuff runs into us and then we also lose stuff through the atmosphere.

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Interesting case, I do, you know, I saw a few folks on Twitter. I don't know if you were dabbing on this or not today, Dan, but a few folks were kind of getting into like how important it seems to be to essentially win a major and then go. And I think that that makes a ton of sense where Cam Smith, before he won the Open Championship, the 150th, you know, if they gave him. gave him a hundred. Do we know? Was there a number reported? I think a hundred is sort of

the reason. If they gave him a hundred, what would they have given him without winning the open at this exact same moment with all other performances being equal? Would it be 50, 25? Right? Like, did he literally double his value to live by

winning the 150th open at St. Andrews? I think he, I think he at least probably did, right? 100% he did. It's, I mean, it's kind of similar to this is why there was some chatter around all the Henrik Stenson stuff was, you know, would he have gotten the same offer if he wasn't the Ryder Cup captain? Probably not. You know, there's, part of this is not just getting the best players, but it's winning kind of the narrative game. And so, yes, he was a great player before this.

He was a top 10 player, but he won the 150th Open at St. Andrews where everyone was watching. And he's, he's top of the mind in golf right now. He's done it really recently, quite literally the most recent major championship was won by a 28-year-old Australian guy who's just gone to live golf. Like it's, you know, again, I go back to when it leaked, it took a lot of the sting out of it. But it is a really big get for them. It's a significant coup. Is this like a new playbook or the go-to playbook for if you're a big name, how to roll out

that you're going to live, like leak it a month early so that you take the sting out of it. And then you kind of like wish you wash or you stay on tour. people forget and then now that he went like nobody cared today right i think it's going to be really different in how guys go like moving forward because of the way the league is changing right like right now it's they have to fill these 48 spots so they're still filling those spots i mean i think they have basically they're all done now but moving forward it's going to be like a more like a american sports league where there's a season and then there's an off season and so it's like the the all the contract negotiations and stuff would be at the end of the season so i think there's going to be

no guys joining for like another year, maybe one or two to fill out the 48. But once they're doing their league next year, it's not going to be the same where it's like a wave and a wave and a wave. It's going to be more like this guy's contracts up and, you know, someone else signs in the off season. I will say, I know like Frankie's usually our pro live guys, so I don't want to steal a thunder. But I was looking at the reading the blog and the whole stuff about the Australian team. And when we were talking on the last show about the recruiting, that stuff, I mean, I feel like

a lot of that element of American sports is what people get so into is offseason and acquisitions and contracts and why guys decide to go to certain teams. That got me excited. Like that part actually got me intrigued into the decision making process and the fact that there's an Australian team and the fact that, which you again brought up, that like the PGA tour has essentially abandoned Australia as a venue to go play events outside of the occasional presidents cut where they plant fans, but they they basically don't go to Australia. Australia is one of the biggest hotbeds for golf, you know, and has the most incredible golf courses.

It's phenomenal and they don't go there. And now you've got, you know, Greg Norman's obviously the head of the whole thing, the CEO, he's an Australian guy. You got Camp Smith is their best ranked player, their biggest name that's relevant and up and coming still at the peak, whatever. He's Australian. They got the Australian team with Leishman. Like that's a big draw for them.

They're going to play, what, three, I think, announced for next year, at least like Australian events. So that's a big part of it. And I do find that element of it. They are starting to, it's starting to sort of crystallize a little bit into where this like team thing and that they have equity, the captains have equity. And you know, you told the whole little tale about like Brooks Kepka having equity. So he's trying to recruit guys so that his team's the best team so that they can sell it.

Like that's blending Formula One with our normal sports. That is kind of fucking intriguing. I have to admit it. It's kind of intriguing. Formula One, when I went to the two live events that I went to, and you're talking to executives about the vision, right, and what they want this thing to look like in five years, Formula One comes up all the time.

I mean, that's really kind of what their goal is, right? There's 10 teams in Formula One. They're all owned by corporations, but some of them are just, you know, a billionaire who wants a toy, basically a shiny toy. And there's only so many shiny toys that are that shiny. And you can't, getting an NFL team is ridiculously hard. never up for sale. Like there will be people who are, this is really appealing to. Like,

there's just, there's just not that many of them. So yeah, the team's, the team stuff is super, super, super, super important for them. Like, it's actually vital to their model. And nationalism is sort of an easy way for a team to create an identity. And then the team all of a sudden becomes valuable in Australia. That's, and that's why Hadeki would have been so incredibly massive. I wrote about this too. I mean, Hidecchi would have been just huge because he's, he's, He's another guy who's not old. He's right at the peak, just won the master's. First Japanese guy to win a major, just a huge megastar.

And if you get him, you get a TV deal in Japan right away, a big one. Some Japanese billionaire would buy that team in a heartbeat. Like Hideki was a huge domino that at least now hasn't yet fallen in Liv's way. It is super interesting how strategic now, you know, they are being. Live is being. And at the beginning, it was sort of like they'll just take really anybody they can get for the most part. Obviously some big names, DJ and Phil and the whole deal. But, you know, now Cam Smith and the Australian angle, which we've already talked about.

But, you know, Joachim Neiman, Chilean, huge in South America. And South America is, you know, one of the completely untapped golf markets in the world. Anyir Baham Lahiri, who was huge in India, that's a market. Clearly, like they're going for more of the international market. and not just going purely for America. And then the strategy that they had around Henrik Stenson, like going in and getting the current Ryder Cup captain for Europe. Like, they paid a premium knowing, like,

this is going to send a message that would stole your fucking captain. And like, we're going to take your 150th winner at St. Andrews so that, you know, you're not going to want them all over the graphics next year when you're building out your tournament. You know, it's like that shit is super strategic by them. And that, too, is very interesting. It's it reminds me a lot of why I've always been way more when it comes to politics into elections than I have been actually governing. Like I think elections are incredible. When people grown adults are going out trying to ruin the lives of other grown adults because they're competing for this fucking office, it's amazing what goes down in the drama and the drama and their strategy and their recruiting and the fact that it's again like crystallizing into kind of a real thing that appears to be.

kind of fought out and they're able to get, you know, the right pieces in certain spots, even though they're not, I don't think as there hasn't been as big of an exodus as they were probably hoping. It's interesting. It's interesting to look at it. It is. Does any of this matter if they don't have a TV deal? Like if these events are going to be happening that no one is watching, I know they air them on YouTube and I think a bunch of people watch those and they're collecting all this talent like you're saying Australia, Australia, India, all these different places. But once the events actually start to happen and no one's watching them. If you want to continue to claim to be a legitimate business and to have a

legitimate business plan, not having a TV deal is going to hurt. It's going to hurt a lot. Big time. I don't think they're going to be just free on YouTube next year. They're not going to sign a deal. I don't think with one of the big networks, but like it's going to have to be on linear television next year. And that's what they're planning on negotiating in the off season once they're done is they

have that three month period. But yeah, they might have to buy a channel. Like they have to get it on TV. You're right. Because if it's no matter how good the people are that you're signing and how many major champions you have, if the people don't care, it just will lose steam. Yeah. I thought like that might be the move is even just buy television if you need to. Like buy television spots or whatever you need to do because it's, it's right.

Like if you can legitimize yourself that way and get yourself in front of eyeballs, then like maybe you can gain some traction. But because, yeah, I don't know that they're going to have it right now. you know, a linear typical TV channel isn't going to pay for the rights to put this on in America right now, right? They're going to buy every commercial during the Super Bowl. So you're going to see one and a half minute clips of Live golf in between each stoppage of the Super Bowl. And you're just going to make that's where we're going to see it each year. Some parts of the Live business plan does feel like prestige worldwide from Stepbrothers where they're like, what are we going to do? We're going to buy TV.

That's how we're going to get on TV. we're just going to buy TV. But it's legitimate. They could legitimately do that and just buy TV and put themselves on TV. That's how much money they have. Yeah, it's that. And then right now, what they need to do is disrupt. They just need to disrupt, disrupt, disrupt.

Like that's their game. Well, I think that's always been their model. And I mean, think back to when we were first starting about Live, when it was just an idea and you're like, this is fucking crazy. How is it even going to work? And now, flash forward a couple months, how much they actually have accomplished. It's pretty stunning and startling and, like, pretty. insane of where we're at now. I think that it's crazy to think that they would have everything in

place by at this point. I think if you asked Greg Norman like three five months ago, like if you'd be happy where he's at right now with live, I think he'd be pretty happy. What would you guys? I was just thinking like if I showed you that list last year of the guys who were playing in Boston, I think you'd be pretty impressed. You'd be stone away. Holy shit. You wouldn't be like, where's their TV deal? You'd be like, holy shit. No, I know you, but you'd be like, holy shit. something big happened for sure no i don't yeah where you're like they're on billion dollars in guaranteed money or whatever right i definitely don't disagree that they have made an impact and they've made an impact so much so that we have to talk about the next steps and if they make

them you got to talk about the steps after that yeah i mean obviously like when it becomes legitimate is when they start getting sponsors and all those billionaires to make the teams like uh formula one I'm not watching a single event if it's the cracking aces versus the golden bananas. I'm just not going to do it. And like, they know that too. I think they sit around and know, no one's watching the golden bananas tee off against whatever. Like, I don't know, I don't even know a single name. It's just the idea of what it is is so intriguing to me that it's like if it's fucking Coca-Cola versus like team whatever Ferrari, just like how F1 does, we're going to be like that is something at least.

my brain can understand who's in first place. It's a brand that I can associate it with. It's this billionaire tech guy that named his team something ridiculous that like we're always going to know for the for the future of the sport. Like that's where it becomes like now you've gotten like the idiots that just want to click on a TV and see who's in first. Right now they have not gotten there yet. But like as someone that's just like watching it all unfold, it's fucking crazy at where

they've gotten to. It's just so hard though for them to do that for them to drum up interest in the team stuff because it's always been a part of Formula One. There's always been a team aspect. There's always been like they're really trying to just turn, you know, golf into it like a team sport. It's just in starting from scratch and doing it. So yeah, whatever like method they can use to get there, whether that's, you know, countries or it's just, it's a monumental task. The day they put an actual brand name on a team, I think they succeed in that task. For me at least, like, where I'm able to like pay attention to it.

Like then it becomes a team sport. Until then, I think it's like backyard baseball. It's like it feels fake. It feels like. So one company cuts a check and then all of a sudden it goes from backyard baseball to like I'm tuning in on Sunday. I don't know what it is. There's something about it. Tuning into what?

Does it have to be? Are you going to watch if it's not on TV? No, I think if they got to that point, I think only sponsors would take it if they have a place to see their sponsors. You know what I mean? I think it'd have to be on some sort of streaming network or whatever. It's also funny that we're saying they have to be on TV when every professional sports league is like going away from traditional television. Like you can't see a Yankees game on Monday night

Unless you have Apple streaming TV Like you can't watch Yeah I mean like There's certain games on them will be Where you just can't even watch them on TV They're only on Apple Can't watch a fucking BJ tour sometimes now without You can't watch PGA tour

You can't watch NHL is only on peacock On like Thursday nights Whatever it is you can't watch it out Like I can't watch the islanders unless I have Pekke Those are still TV deals right Like I get it but it's They're getting paid so much money to do that Yeah

But they're taking them away from current TV deals that's why they're getting the money. Like, I think if you're coming out of nothing, then it's not going to be like. But it's like, peacock NBC? Yes. Right,

but they're paying, right? Aren't they paying to take them away from traditional media? A lot of these things. Like an Apple TV is paying TNT to take that Yankees game off TNT baseball to put them on apples. But if they weren't, they're currently have that deal.

But if the league is get like, if YouTube TV says like, we're going to pay your sling says we're going to pay, you know, live golf, whatever, a billion dollars over the next three years. Like that would.

be identical to me of if they're on ESPN. It's like they got a deal. They got like a TV. They got a streaming or a broadcasting deal or whatever. And yeah, I agree with you. That would be like, that would be the ultimate step in legitimization. I think at this point, it's pretty much inevitable. Eventually, don't you think? I mean, they've, they've checked the boxes so far that we didn't think they could check. And yes, they've gotten to them via means that, you know, we're all pretty skeptical of and think that it, it means that that's, you know, there's nefarious. activity. There's bad, bad, bad, bad people behind the money. But they've gotten to a point where if you, and you just made the point, if you showed me this roster a year ago, I'd be like,

holy fuck. That is a monumental, you know, crack in professional golf with these names on one side of it and these names on the other. I mean, we legitimately have like Rory Magaroy in JT and Tiger Woods and Morcawa are like publicly against Brooks Kepka. And, Phil Nicholson and Dustin Johnson and Cameron Smith. That's amazing. Did you see that? I think it was the telegraph. I'm not sure Jamie Corrigan, who's been on top of a lot of the live stuff.

But he reported today that, you know, so there's 18 live guys who are playing in the TP World Tour event next week, the BMW PGA championship. And apparently the tournament sent them all a message being like, you guys are not going to be in future groups. There are no live things allowed and like probably aren't going to be interviewed out of respect for the tournament. And so like that kind of stuff. And I wrote about this, I think it was, I think it was at St. Andrews where some of the live guys like Phil Mickelson get kind of a pairing that made you raise your eyes. And there were some other guys who got these kind of pairings that like like and that stuff only brings them closer in a way. You know what I mean? Like if they feel like, oh, we're being ostracized and we're being pushed out, that only makes it more contentious than it already was to begin with. So it's, it's very tense. It also gives them a case that you guys are doing that to us. Like when they, blatantly say, you know, we're not going to put you in featured groups and we're not going to do this and that. It's like, first of all, you're creating more headlines.

I'm going to make sure that that's exactly continue. I'm going to make sure that's exactly what happened because I don't want to misrepresent, but I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Yeah, I mean, that's very much that, yeah, I agree. That is like you're giving them, you're giving them fuel. You're, you're basically putting them in a corner where they're going to rally, right, like with one another. They're going to bond over the fact that like they're going to talk shit, right? when they're together, they're going to be like, how about these fucking, you know, they're just going to bond and they're going to be where the live guys.

You also might take, they can't play in the proam either. You also take people like viewers and fans who are kind of in the middle where you, they hear something like that and they're like, well, that's, all right. Now what do you do? Like, why are we doing that? That seems a little insane. You might get people to flip. It's interesting.

Yeah. I think they, they have. Yeah, Rory, Rory had a comment, didn't he about like he doesn't even want to see the people next week or whatever. So he's not it's big yeah he's like it doesn't sit well with me I think is what he said What's like if it's all anyone in your sphere has been talking about nonstop is you got versus these guys and you guys versus these guys it's only human nature to start to think about it that way Yeah I thought uh harold warner the third had um I thought he had a interesting statement I thought he had about as good of a statement as you could have he basically came out one of the few and we've asked for this for a while and said like yeah I'm doing it for the money is pretty much That's what he said.

He had, you know, obviously more to it. He spoke about his background. He said, the truth is my life is changing. The opportunity to join LiveGolf is simply too good of a financial breakthrough for me to pass by. I know what it means to grow up without much. This money is going to ensure that my kid and future Varners will have a solid base to start on in a life I could have only dreamt about growing up. It'll also help fund many of the programs I'm building with my foundation.

It will continue to forge pathways for kids. kids interested in golf. This note is a receipt for that. Your opinion of me may have changed because of this announcement. No lie, that'll be a tough thing to deal with. But I haven't changed. I'm still me. I promise you that.

So I think that in terms of statements, you know, leading with like, yep, I did this for financial and for money, I think is probably going to sit way better with people than most of any other, you know, angle that we've heard so far. People are learning how to do this. Yeah. Cameron, Tringale was the same way. And you saw there were a couple guys who dropped out of the lawsuit this week. Jason Coak, I think Abe answer.

I think guys are starting to be like, you know, maybe I'll just be nice. Maybe I'll just like, you know, tell the truth and just sort of go and say thank you and be nice out the door. And they'll definitely deal with less below back. Because now I think you're 100% right. Like now you ask people by Harold Varner, they're like, I get it. Wasn't there this conception that they weren't allowed to say that? Right. Do you think Liv has changed like they're talking?

points that they give to the players of like all right nobody's buying the grow the game thing like we need to we need to be a little bit more honest like do you think there was like do we think there was anything from live because there was the original there were like there was the flyer whatever that went out to the players of like here's the things you're supposed to harp on when you're at I don't know the answer I don't know for sure it's not impossible maybe they just like stop talking about it as much you know with the guys and it was it's become more it has become more normalized right it's like because now that these guys are like the 30th or 40, whatever, guys to make this decision. So it's not quite as testy. My complete and unfounded guess would be that they probably change something because what happens when you just flat out lie, the headlines are, these guys are lying. And we don't like that. When they don't lie and they say, I went for the money. The headlines are, thank you very much for saying the truth.

And that's like a more positive headline than the negative one about lying. And you can just over and over again if you just say, I'm there for the money. People are like, all right, I respect it. And it's an easier pill to swallow. On the flip side, it is kind of a tough pill for live to swallow because when you say I went for the money, you're basically saying I wouldn't have done it for the same price. Like, you know, I'm doing this because they're paying me a lot of money. It's kind of like an implicit admission that like, yeah, you wouldn't have, if it wasn't for the money, you wouldn't have gone. Also, you need the guys to not say it was for the money, for the guys who said it was for the money to have a comparison, if that makes any sense.

You needed the guys who like refused. It didn't make any sense. What I'm saying, you needed the Phil Mickelson. sins of the world that like refused to say that it was about money and clearing his debts to have a harold varner to like almost be like a refreshing take when like if everyone was just saying it was for the money they'd come off as like pretentious douchebags and that would be the negative headline is my point like like even it even though it is a point it's like harold varner still should be a negative headline like i'm going to live to take all the money but like it's so different and honest compared to all the guys prior to him that we're like applauding him and being like amazing but how they all

just taking his same stance, we'd be like, these guys are blood money lunatics. Yeah, that's true. And the going in a pack thing is just better, right? Like, you're just one of sad guys that went, you know, it's, it's like, dude, when Pat Perez wore the money shirt, we were like, everyone was going crazy being like, he's an, he's an amazing guy. Like, look at that. Dude, there was talk shows of everyone being like, can you believe this guy? He's, he's a real dude.

Everyone's like, no one's like cares about his decision. No one cared about his decision. Yeah, nobody cared about Bres. I agree. And it's funny not to look like how many shots like Taylor Gouch took, right? And like now there's just way bigger Taylor Gouches that have gone. Like, and it's just not that big of a deal. It was great for everybody that Taylor Gouch went first and just kept putting his foot in his mouth over and over and over again.

And people like, Harold Varner and all over and were like, we can do it better than that. That guy is saying some crazy shit. He was, he was the perfect, you know, lamb to slaughter in that regard because he was just like, Yeah, it's like the Rider Cup out here and there were two guys standing next to him. It's amazing. All right, I want to talk about From the Gallery, Truly. We're going to do some From the Galleries. I got a couple I want to get to before we lose anyone.

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And I think that DRAP will probably have some good interesting points on this question. Jason says, hello. My favorite truly flavor is black cherry. Thank you. Do you think Liv has reached out to Anthony Kim? If so, do you think they could get him to come out of retirement? Do we know the Anthony Kim situation? And if it's even possible for someone to just offer him way, way more money than he had for his retirement or injury settlement? I'm pretty sure the injury settlement is over. There's like a, there's like a time period on those things. It's like a 10, I think it's like a 10 year. It's either over or it's over soon where it's you can't play for 10 years if you want to keep the money. not like in perpetuity. So I think he's at a place where if he wanted to play again, he could.

At this point, though, like, what kind of message would that son from Live? They're trying to talk about this is like a competitive thing. We want this to be, you know, co-to-to-to-best players in the world. It's all about the competition to just invite a guy who hasn't played golf in like eight years to take one of these 48 spots. But they are in the headline game. It would be a great headline. It's actually, I would be interested to see if it was actually, if people in like the general sports world would care because we're so far in it that Anthony Kim has become this like bigfoot figure. But does the general public even remember who that is? General public, uh, belt buckles, you know, they, that people remember belt buckles. They got lasting power.

Yeah. What is you as a, you as a guy who, you know, just is an insider and you've, you've been at this for a long time and you're great at it. What is the latest on Anthony Kim? Do you have any sort of insight into that? Not really. I mean, you. I mean, I think the general consensus is that he's, I think it's like Texas maybe or something. I think he's been seen in Dallas. I think, no, I think it's been seen somewhere desert. He's been seen a few times. He is big foot, dude.

Yeah. I genuinely think. No, I think the general, what I've heard and you hear like mumblings and you don't know it's true, but what I've heard is that he's like in a good place, which is nice to hear. That's great. Yeah. I genuinely think in Anthony Kim interview on this show would be the biggest interview we've ever done. See, I do too, but that was an interesting thing.

I'll do my best. from Danny of like that I don't know if it transcends the golf world I am curious like as someone who was in the in the cover story game and feature story game like did it come across your desk occasionally of like go track down Anthony Kim well you can you can you can't track him down you could like but if he doesn't want to participate it's I don't think people would be quite as interested in the story that's like okay he has this like restaurant now or he's like invested in these four things. Like you kind of need him in order for that story to really pop. It'll happen. It'll happen eventually. What's going to his restaurant? Does he have a restaurant?

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, that's something that I had a barbecue pit. If he's got a ski shooting, you know, I don't know what. It's called like Tony Kim's or something like that. No, but I mean, I think it will happen eventually like the Anthony Kim story will come out and he'll talk and eventually and it'll be huge news in our world at least when it does. God, I would fucking love to see that. Hans. Hans says to Frankie, how is your elbow doing from Hans? Oh, hello, Hans. I'd say that it's like, it's in a better place that I don't have the same pain that I used to have, but it's not recovered, if that makes any sense. Like, it's just... Because you had elbow surgery like a year ago, right?

It's been about a year, yeah. Yeah. What I did right after the surgery, no one should ever do. I played two concerts for Pup Punk, 13 days after the surgery. My elbow was still bleeding in a soft cast. I played for two hours in each show. Four hours. We played all over the place. We played in Denver. We played in Indiana University.

It was bad. And I was dipping my elbow in ice buckets after each song. And the water was bloody and gooky and just disgusting. So yeah, that's not a way to recover from elbow nerve surgery. So will I ever have to get it again? probably, but I'm not getting that sensation in my fingers anymore. I just think the nerve is in a bad spot. Like,

I can actually touch it like it's a button now. It's on the inside of my elbow. It's no longer... What's the backstory to this injury? I was getting tingling in my pinky and my ring finger and a lot of it is from playing the drums and baseball

and just not taking care and not working out. And then I think like it just slipped into vets. Pizza reviews. Rough and row. I'm not even kidding, dude. Like that rough and ratty camera, like your, this injury is basically like when your nerve slips into like the funny bone, the two bones that connect right there. It slips in there and gets caught. And it's just like all the nerve, it's sending nerves like the wrong spots and your fingers start twitching. And that could happen as simply as falling asleep on a plane with your arms on both rests.

Like if you're just in a weird spot, it could just slip in or driving long distances with your arms like locked in like this. Like this is what the surgeon was telling me. and I just felt it and it was annoying and my arm would wake up dead every morning and I just I went to go to check on my shoulder and they're like that couldn't affect your fingers and he said it was your elbow and honestly dude holding your phone like this bro where it rests on your pinky is bad it puts all stress on that nerve that's exactly what it is so you always should have it like this I'm very concerned about in that same regard like just I'm hunched over all the time I've also recently gotten addicted to TikTok which is just a new thing and I just sit there and I'm just sit there and I'm very concerned about it um I'm very concerned about um I'm just I'm hunched over all the time I've also recently gotten addicted to TikTok which is just a new thing and I just sit there and I'm oh dude it's a problem but i just look i'm looking down and i'm scrolling and i'm looking at videos it's got to be the worst thing in the world for your neck yeah yeah you definitely got to get got to get one of those like balls and and go like this at the end of the day like i have okay i have like kind of back problems so i have this like ball it's basically like a ball that's not fully inflated and you just like lay back like that and your back cracks and it feels unreal it's basically like

counteracts all this by going to yeah i need a ball thing everything i'll send you one i'll send you one Did you ever get Amazon link and a video? What kind of procedures have you had that you'd like to talk about on a really popular podcast, Danny? Have you ever had like LASIC eye surgery? No, no surgeries, no surgeries. No surgeries at all, actually. I have really sweaty hands. So there was talk at one point about getting like Botox in your hands, but it's, that's like a real, that's like a real thing.

But it got worse. Your hands were kicking up the podcast. It's gotten, it's gotten better. Well, you guys will soon discover that I play golf with a rain glove. on at all times because my hands are. Pro, how sweaty are your hands? Yeah, I have sweaty hands. It's actually not as bad as it was when I was a kid.

Sorry. It's not like based in anxiety. It's not based in anxiety. It's just the sweat glands are overactive. No, well, it's definitely worse when I'm nervous for sure. Yeah.

I think we're all thinking what I'm thinking. How amazing of a problem that is. So when tiger, when tiger melted your brain where your hands just puddles up there. I'm, I'm sure they were. I'm sure. I mean, it's, it was, when I was younger, it was a lot worse.

And I'd have to, like, when I was shaking someone's hand, I'd have to be like, hey, like, just heads up here. Like, you're about to get super soaked. You're probably telling your significant others that you're like, hey, I got, I mean, when we walk, you know, down this beautiful path, my hand's going to be soaked. Yeah, I think you, you just have, you, I just would just have to have a conversation up front where I'd be like, hey, my hands are really sweaty. So we can either talk about this every time or you can just, like, file that away. sweat's so weird okay yeah it's not great never had any surgeries

no surgeries well I bring it up because Trent and I think are gonna get LASIC I mean you talk you text me today I was a little bit nervous about it it's just like when I said like I basically said to Trent imagine being bought like imagine

going into this and getting blind blinded but that would that would like fucking does that happen is that like a real possibility I know someone that personally that works at Barsdala told me a story about a friend that had a bad situation.

I know someone personally that told me a story about a friend. I thought you're going to say that you know somebody personally who went. Yeah, but like I didn't want to say the person's name because like I don't know. But like their friend, someone at Barstow's friend had a bad, no, they have to wear this like thing all the time now because like the surgery went horrific. What? Insurance payment insurance payment was probably $20,000 contact or something like that. All I hear. Yeah.

All I hear when I hear that story is that, all I hear when I hear that story is that, all right, great, then it's not going to happen to me. I'm just a little nervous about having a good life with my eyes, even though I need a little help. I wear contacts. I wear glasses. And then going in to get this procedure and possibly having something get messed up with that. You know what I mean? Like you're willingly messing up, something that you can just live with. But you could also just get hit by a car walking into the optometrist or whatever. So it is what it is. I think we're definitely going to do it. We have to do it. If you got it, Trent, would you not need glasses anymore? I think that's the goal.

You have to wear glasses, if you're nowhere, if you're not saying even like for, you got your eyes fixed, rings, you got your eyes fixed, I'm saying for aesthetics for your look though, you're just a glasses guy.

Don't you think so? He look amazing, bro. He'd be fucking tough. No, that was always my main concern was like, I've been in this job and I can't look at you right now. Put your glasses on for you.

I can't say it. Without glasses that. You look like a ghost. He does. He does look tougher. He looks tougher. Here's the thing. You're immediately less cute.

and cuddly Trent. You're immediately like... You need a Harley, bro, with that look. You got an ID? I want you guys to know that if I'm going to go through LASIC, I'm not going to then put on fake glasses and walk around. I'm going to look like I look right now. I don't like it.

He's feeling himself. Look at him. He's checking himself out on the camera. You should. You look great. How many years do you think you have to go to get the crease out of your, out of your head? Bro, he's got a legitimate crease where his glasses are.

And they are in there. They are ingrained in there, bro. I, it would be a, there would be an adjustment period for sure, for everyone, because I've been wearing glasses forever, certainly since I've had a public job. So people would have to get used to that. But I also would love to wake up in the morning and not and just be able to see. Like that would be incredible. Like right now, everybody's a little fuzzy. And when I wake up in the morning, it's like, oh, fuck. I would love to just wake up and be like, wow, I can see everything. I agree, dude. I would love that too. There's nothing I hate more. there's nothing I hate more than when like I wake up. This happened the other day. Like I had people sleep over at my house at a party the night before and everyone's like downstairs and I'm walking downstairs on my glass. Like I had to put my contacts in just to have a conversation with the people in my living room. Are you doing this?

They're all like, yeah, they're all just like sitting there lounging, watching the TV. I'm like, hold on. I got to like go get plastic in my eyeballs right now. Like I'm hung over. There's plastic in my eyes and I'm like, oh, I don't want to do that anymore. I'd rather just walk downstairs and be like, hey, guys. You know, we can do it. You guys gotta get LASIC.

We can film the whole thing. We'll make a video out of it. It'll be great. Yeah, some guy from, uh, and, yeah, we're supposed to have a call with him, but some guy from Northwestern reached out to me and was like, hey, I'm like this guy that does this. I'm like this guy. He seems legit.

He put all the things underneath his name and like it. How's the, how's the ophthalmology department in Northwestern? I would imagine it's top notch. It's top notch university. It's a Northwestern. No, but it's, what you're saying about the LASIC is there, there are glasses now that make colorblind people not colorblind, which you are. I'm right, but I've never tried them before.

How about we have this new guy, Danny Rappaport on the fucking show. He's like, it's a whole new thing. It's breaking news. We have him in the new group chat now with Pilar and Allison and Alex. We're talking about new merchandise. And this guy's talking to us about color schemes. He's like, hey, guys, I would like you to, I'd actually like to see some options on these color schemes. And then at the end, he's like, I'm color.

Blonde, by the way. And we're like, well, your last 13 messages are about, like, color skews. This is what happens when you're trying to have, bring ideas to a new job. Just never do that, people. Wait, so. Just blend in. Just got hung up on the colors and you, then you found out your colorblind. So I love everything about except the colors.

We're like, yeah, dude, because you see like brown. It's like red and blue. But there's varying degrees to colorblindness, right? So what is, what is yours? I'm, I would say like a six on from one to 10. Like, I'm pretty colorblind. Never really seen the color purple before. never never really see which is ironic given northwestern because they're all purple right it's a very

purple university purple for me is just like a royal blue um but i'm not like you know i can i can get around i'm not so like this this hoodie i'm wearing where it's like a red on a blue does that send your brain into a tizzy see no it's more just like that that i believe you and that's great but if you told me that your hoodie was purple i would believe you and if you told me that the T's were red, green, or brown, I would believe you. Because what are the T's like? What? Yeah, it's just, the colorblindness is basically you just don't have enough like sharpness in your eyes. So I can see, I can give you like a color range. Like that's either, you know,

yellow or green, but I can't, can't quite. Do you ever feel like you haven't truly seen the earth? Well, no, because I don't know any different, which is why I'm kind of wary about trying these glasses on. All right. If we want to go viral with Danny Rapport, his first week on the job, you got to make one of those videos where you put the glasses on and you see the colors and you just ball. And you just absolutely a million tears come out of your eyes. Is that a transfusion? Oh my God. That's an incredible.

It's an incredible transfusion Thursday commercial where he puts on that one. Is that what perfect Bermuda greens really look like? Oh, my goodness. I think that's. Jake, you're out here. Can you get in the color correction glasses. Thank you very much. We need a memorable.

I think that's a can't miss idea. I need to go to this auction draft. Oh, yeah. Oh, shit. That's right. My fantasy draft went like fucking shit the other day, man. Yeah, Danny, you can take off if you need to. Is that okay?

Can I just leave? Of course. Get out of here. Okay, bye guys. Our fourth always leaves. Wow. Too soon. That's a too soon.

That's a too soon. You know what I'm saying? I knew that was covered. Yeah, it had to. I mean, it just had to. I keep, I keep pressing the center of my face because I think my glasses are there and they're just not there. So I think this is now convincing me even more that I'm going to get Lysick.

I got cookie dough thawing out right now on my counter. You guys never just take spoons full of cookie dough? Yeah. It's around for sure, yeah. Yeah, especially around

Christmas time and my mom's making cookies and stuff. Would you say the cookie dough is better than the cookie? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. How do you like your cookies?

If you have just like a tub of cookie dough, you have a pan, how do you approach those cookies? I'm not, I'm talking like pre-made cookies, like, so I don't want to hear about all the ingredients you put into it. But do you like to make them

thicker and gooier? Do you like to make them like stretched out and crispy? I'm a crispy cookie guy. Oh, okay. I wouldn't say I'm, no, I'm not crispy. I like soft. I like a soft chocolate chip cookie that kind of melts as you bite into it. Every cookie's better straight out of the oven.

So if I can get it in that time frame, then I'm in. I think Dave, Dave Bornoi is a chocolate chip cookie kind of sword. I think he likes a little bit of a crunch on the outside and then the goo on the, like the middle. You know what I mean? Like you tell it's like a homemade. That's how I do like a chocolate. I need the crunch. I'm a crunch guy.

That's why I like my bacon crispy. That's why I like, dude, I made, I made Brussels sprouts and I burn the shit out of them. Because, like, when the brussels sprouts get crispy and browned and the leaves turn blackened, I don't know if there's like a better vegetable snack ever, like to add into your fucking bowl. It's so good. Really good Brussels sprouts. I agree. They're delicious.

If they're done right, they're not easy to do right. And then also asparagus is actually sneaky hard to do right because it cooks so fast. Yeah. But if you do it right, it's really good. The other night we had asparagus, and I don't usually have asparagus because I don't, I have fear of my pee smelling. So I think that I've been, I've been fucked by big asparagus. That'd be a radio drop. That would be a radio drop.

I've been fucked by big asparagus. Oh, man. Just fucked right in the ass by a big piece of asparagus. So I've been fucked by a big asparagus. is where like I always was afraid that like my pee was going to smell so bad. I'd like get nauseous when I go to the like everyone's like oh it's so bad so I always stayed away from it. And now I'm starting to have it. And dude, we had like cheese.

So we put grated cheese on the end of the asparagus and like crisped and burnt them up. And you were basically eating these like crispy ends of these asparagus. I was grabbing almost like I was gardening and I had a bunch of weeds in my hand. I was grabbing like eight eight of them and just put them all in my mouth and just crunching up. him. Dude, it was fucking... Asparagus is good, man. Prepared right. It's really good.

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That's a scene if they do that, in my opinion. But kind of weirder if they let him just go to, like if you go to the PGA Tours Crown Jewel home course where their headquarters are, Cam Smith's out there every day practicing. True. You can't let him. I don't think you can let him. In the current situation that we're in, I'm not saying that I would ban him.

I'm saying that in the current environment that we're in, you got to ban him. I think you have to ban him. You have to. It's a little spiteful. It's a little weird, but I think you got to. This whole thing is spiteful in both directions. It's a war, dude.

Right. It's a fucking war. And there's battles everywhere. There's winners. There's losers. There's people catching shrapnel. You know, we're lowering the fucking boats and people taking bolts to the head. It is what it is, bro.

War ain't fun. Right. And that's why it was such a big deal when, you know, Tiger and Rory are there are the guys who were like, were the guys on this side of the war. It's like, damn, that's a pretty, that'd probably be a decent side to be on if you're on sides. That, that, yeah, if we're doing the war analogy, Tiger and Rory showing up to that meeting was like when North Korea or like one of these, like, ridiculous. You know, when they do those, like, war days where, like, the entire army is around, like, the missile and they like bring the missile to the town square. I picture Tiger and Rory like sitting on one of those missiles just getting loaded up into

like the thing that's now aimed at the enemy. You know what I'm saying? I think Trump wanted to do one of those. Did he end up doing one else? He did. No, I think they scrapped it. I think they didn't. I remember the Zero Blog 30 crew talking about like how much if you're actually involved in,

you know, the military personnel that do those like how big of the pain it is it is to actually do those things. But yeah, those like shows of strength. I feel like they do that in China a lot or they'll they do that in Russia. It's like around the Kremlin, where it's just like missiles and tanks just going through Times Square basically. A lot of the North Korea ones are like made out of plastic or you know what I mean? They're like they're like clay and like they're not actually missiles.

Rory and Tiger was a show of force if we're using that type of terminology. It's a show of force. And that's Game of Thrones terminology. You guys ever watch that, um, that YouTube video on how much we spend a day on president's security? I think I I watched that yeah or how they yeah much is it is it a lot oh my god dude you have to watch I don't want to misrepresent like how much it is it's an ungodly amount of money every day to protect the president and they go into like just everything how many cars and all the planning

it's a wendover production I believe yes is the is the brand on YouTube windover production basically just teaches you all about like why do planes cost what they cost and like why does your why is a first class ticket cost this and a last row in the seat why do the highways work how do the highways work right it's a really good youtube channel so if they need any more pub i think they have like a hundred million subscribers i don't think they need it from us but um go watch those videos and there's one that's like how how expensive is it to just protect the president it's fucking nuts there's a great i'm not i'm not gonna give away the whole thing and i couldn't even if i wanted to but in that video part of protecting the president is in his fucking juiced up Cadillac that he drives around in or that he gets

driven around in hercules or whatever there are yeah there are pints of his blood in the car so if they get into a situation where he's losing blood they can be like hey we have this excess blood uh for president biden so he's going to be okay and there's multiple of his cars and they go in different directions so like you would never know and this is like when he shows up to like oh when he goes for coffee like travers city michigan to like go pick up cherries you know what i mean like this is not to show up to a meeting this is just to go down the street it's fucking Also, it's the most powerful person on the planet, so it makes sense. It does.

I was thinking about that as you guys were talking. Like, is, because I, and I started thinking about this during Game of Thrones because or the new House of Dragon because they talk so much about power. Everybody's driven by power. And you're like, you're, you're, I'm trying to understand as I watch, like, they want to, everybody wants to sit on the Iron Throne. But like, what does that really mean? Like, what is it?

Are you really that? powerful and I was in the guy who's king what is air what is it again? Air Eres what is it again? Say again the guy that's Viserius who's the king now Vesarius. He's like

he's the most powerful person clearly in the realm but also he can't even choose like who he wants to marry really he can't even choose to like not want to marry he can't even choose like he's like worried about every minute of his life because he doesn't have like a male air people are going to like come kill him because they're going to take him so he's like is he really that

powerful in the sense of he doesn't he can't even control his own life he can't even really get to do what he wants to do and it made me think about like the president and how powerful is the president like is somebody like is Elon Musk just like more powerful because he could control things and do really whatever the hell he wants and tomorrow like Elon Musk will not get voted out of power like he can he'll just be worth $300 billion more plus forever and be able to literally do whatever he wants Whereas the president, everyone's coming after his ass every second. Like everything that the president does is under a microscope. Running for president sucks.

Being president sucks. So like, yes, you are powerful in that like he could just command a nuke strike. But like does anybody ever just command a nuke strike? But I think that, I think that the idea that you can do that is where the power comes. Because aside from that, it's all nothing. Like the fact that you have your finger on the pulse of the nuclear football, whatever they call it, that's the only thing that allows them to be. be them. I struggle with, I struggle with understanding how we as humans just accept power. Like,

how even throughout all of history that like you, you're sitting at this table and you're looking at this other human and you're like, I have to answer to that human because they are who they are. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like they're bigger and stronger and like they don't, they're not a different type of species that like if you don't listen to them, you are dead. They're just another human that like had that was like born from another human and because they have a certain last name you have to just listen to them they're sitting on a certain in a certain chair and it's amazing that like everyone around them holds that power so that if you don't listen to them you're dead they're going to protect you like but isn't that crazy that we like we we just all listen to

it just as humans we're all just yep that's it that's power that's what we that is power that is the power what is the power that we just do it's in everything though it's like in every thing. It's in like, it's in, you know, bureaucracy in like organizations, too. It's like, there's a boss and that boss like tells you what to do. And you're like, I think about that all the time. Dude, I think about that all the time. My buddy is like a boss at his job. It's like, people look at you and they just like listen to you. What do you like, what are you talking about? What do you mean? You're just you. You're just you. No one should listen to anything you say. You know, I mean, they're humans too. They're older than you. I guess they do have. I guess they do have

the ability to, you know, administer some forms of punishment. Why? That's the system. I don't know. The system's, it drives me crazy. It's amazing that it's not chaos is my point that we've gotten to the point where it's all just levels and sometimes it is chaos, man. Sometimes it just is chaos. That's like people, and there's people that root for chaos and they want chaos and you have to have order. It's like if you don't, you can't have everyone just doing literally whatever impulsive thing they want ever because people are fucked up and they will do some really fucked up shit.

It'd be like, right, it'd be like if you just had no, it's as simple as equating it to us, like, if you just had a golf course sitting there and no one working at it and no one, like it would be chaos. It would be like,

people be hitting shots and showing up, whatever they'd be like, you gotta have order. And it's like they listen to, like the guy in the, in the, in the, we'll be like, you have to pay this and then you have to go to the T

seven minutes early. And then you have to wait, like, they tell you what to do and they have power over you in that moment. It's like we showed up to a course one time. And we were, God, this is that Missouri Bluffs in St. Louis. And we had booked two T times.

And we only had five because like three of our guys get two hungover and they couldn't show up. But it was at like noon. And there was nobody else around. And we were just going to play way slower if we played as a three and a two. And we're going to have to wait in every hole. We're like, what are just going to play as like a five? And the starter just like wouldn't let us do it. And the team, we were like, no, man.

Like it's this. And then we just, we kept talking all day. we were like, it's insane that this guy just is more powerful than we are. Yeah, exactly. We can do in this situation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you think, and I'm not going to dive into religion. I don't want any fucking DMs about this. We're going to talk about the scientific version. We're going to talk about cavemen and all that stuff, right? Like if those are the first people on Earth, do you think it started right there where it was like two humans and one just was like, you have to follow me? Like, I'm like they just decided that one was better than the. the other like at hunting and gathering like just by just by decision or just by nature and they're like you now follow me I am your leader like how did that ever first happen then did it evolve from

there I don't know the answer to that because that's that's a deep and philosophical question but I do think the way that people's brains are wired there are leaders and followers I think that is 100% true so and then as you go along it's in our DNA and like you think that yeah to a certain degree yes. Okay. I do think there are people who are made to like lead and there are people who are made to follow and you can get like as you go further long in your life, you can acquire skills that make you you one way or the other. But I do think inherently there are people who are leaders and there are people who are followers for sure. And I would say the following even is like a pretty broad term of like you might just be complacent and not give a fuck and therefore you're just follow. You're like, yeah,

sure. I'll like, yeah, I'll just do. I'll pay your taxes. I don't really care. I'm just leave me alone. I want to watch TV. Whereas like other people. people are just ambitious and like they're just go, go, go. And that translates the power. Like, if you always want to accumulate more, more, more, like, you know, there's probably a set number that you could get to that's basically infinity money. I don't know if it's like a billion dollars or like $5 billion, but you could just, right, you're at a point where you don't need anything else. You have these people that just continue to try to like swallow up as much as they can. Right. And then, you know, they do philanthropic stuff and they try to, but like, that's power,

man. That is just accumulating endless power. And so I guess I would say like to bring that full circle for me and like understanding and House of the Dragon and Game of Thrones, it's like it's never felt to me like whoever sits on the Iron Throne is even like that power. It'd almost be like in this one, the guy with the ships who's like the most rich guy. Like that guy

is probably just too powerful. He can just kind of do whatever he wants. He's got more money. Who is the Dick Cheney of the House of the Dragon? is basically what I'm trying to get to. Who is the guy on top. It's auto. It's who it is. Otto sucks, dude.

But he's a fucking snake. Yeah, he is a snake. And in that case, it's the dragons. So it's basically the guy, you know, it's having the nuke, the nuclear football. It's like, you know, at any moment, we can just fly our dragons and what are you guys going to do? And everyone's like, all right. All right. And then in that world, it's even more of that because the dragons actually listen to that one family.

Right. They won't even listen to you. You know what I mean? They can only say, like, Veckel. car or so whatever it is right they'll just like burn you on fire if you're not part of that family they're just like now we don't care about you you know you mean nothing to me that's interesting it does seem like the person all the way at the top is so busy dealing with being the person at the top that they don't have any execution of the power that they hold they don't ever use it and i will

say like the only time i feel like i really see the powers like yeah they get to make like the decisions but even then it feels like the council always steers them where they're supposed to make the decision. The only real time is like when is obviously war and the dragons, but also like whenever they do those, those when people come to the throne and like make their cases and the, and the whoever the king or queen is just like decides that that part's awesome. I love when they do that.

Yeah, even when they're like, all right, just kill that guy. And then somebody fucking killed like that's like that's like the most, that's the Ross version of that power where somebody does something like, if they're walking through the streets and some commoner is like, oh, they spit on. they're like, why don't you kill that guy? And then it happens, that's power. It's incredible in hardcore history by Dan Carlin, which I've brought up on the show a good amount,

but their long-form, deep historical podcast. In his one called Rath of a Khan, which is all about the Mongols and Jenghis Khan and basically how they became at a time like so much more powerful than anyone else because they had all these horse archers and they would just decimate armies. And their power was so severe and intense. and dominant that like they would just walk they would they would arrive at massive ancient cities

with huge walls and they'd basically present to them like hey here's the deal you have to like give us everything you have all your gold x amount you're going to owe us in taxes every year and like a horrific deal and the cities would be like obviously we're not going to do that and then they would just murder and execute every single person of the city and like cut their heads off and rape all their women and do it over the course of a matter of days and then just move on to the next city. And that was like, now that's just raw, real. Obviously, we don't have that now, like, not at least in the United States of America, but it is crazy like power then and power that you see in Game of Thrones and stuff. I often think about like, how does that translate now into power?

And I just watched the, or I've been watching, I haven't finished yet, the like the Hulk Hogan trial documentary of like him versus Gawker. That's a wild one. And, uh, T. T.L. B.M. Behind the the whole thing. Like, that's power in such a new age now. Like, that almost felt Game of Thrones ask where he's fucking funding the entire thing.

He just funds the whole thing. In the scenes and I'm like, that's fucking power, dude. Like, that is, that guy's over in fucking Silicon Valley making billions of dollars. And then some courtroom in Florida,

he is just decimating the lives of two people who wrote shit about him and his friends that he didn't like and end an entire company who happened to hate Barcelona sports too, so they're gone. But it's just amazing that like that power. that that guy had was just pulling strings all over the place while accumulating billions of dollars and was like oh yeah i just got like in this courtroom i'm just decimating the lives of these people that wrote negative shit about me is fucking amazing it's pretty wild i mean there's a lot of power

even in the technology that what was that documentary that just showed how addicted we are to our phones oh um block yeah networking or something like that the fuck i actually refused to watch that i didn't want i couldn't watch dude like gmail is so addicting that like they they they actually had to have a guy whose job was to make it less addicting and he couldn't do it so he quit. He couldn't. He failed. He's like, my full-time job was to make this less addicting

because I knew it was going to ruin the future of our civilization and I couldn't do it. Because like they were putting in things where like if you put your phone down they'd send you another notification and like they would know exactly when you had your phone down,

when you looked at your phone, how to keep you in email, like certain colors that would make you want to like scroll and check your old emails. That's just on email. Think about fucking TikTok. Oh, email, dude.

TikTok is working on me. I know that. It knows, like, I know that it knows when I'm, like you're scrolling through all these videos. And I know that if I even stop on one for a little bit longer than I stopped in the last one, they're like, the next day.

He likes that. He likes that. Dude, I've been watching on Facebook. I'll go on Facebook from time to time. And the only reason I go on there is because I see videos. I don't see anywhere else. And these videos are,

um, they are a guy that restores really rusty, like swords and knives or like a really rusty pan and it's like ASMR and he turns this rusty old pan that he found in like a fucking dumpster and he turns it into a brand new black spanking new pan that he ends up cooking a steak on and it's just like bro it's five minutes of this dude scrubbing this thing and then it's like oh it's so satisfying it makes me want to come dude my version of that on TikTok right now is this guy who does lawn care you know I I looked at that last night and I'm like look at this shit I was watching that all night last night he goes to properties that have been you know abandoned and no one has been there for 10 years and he brings all of his landscaping tools and lawnmowers and weed whackers and he just makes it look fucking beautiful and they speed it up a little bit so you're watching him mow and he's going all over the place and it's like five minutes and it's the most satisfying video you'll ever watch aging everything just so fucking good

It's also like technology addiction, social media addiction. I know it's been true with Twitter and Instagram. I've always known that. TikTok is another animal, my friends. It really is. And it's the last thing you needed. I've watched you on your phone. You're always, you have your thing.

You go to Instagram, Twitter, and now you got TikTok in there. I fear for that brain in there. That's a lot to handle. TikTok's a lot, bro. I have yet to make an account. It's I actually, I just made an account, Barstle-Trent. Oh, there you go. Nine.

So feel free to check that out. Just go, Trent. You have to in our business. We all got to make accounts. It's just. I know. And then I'm, I was in a TikTok with Ria and Tommy and Fran today. And then you get tagging that and you start getting more followers.

So that's going to be an addiction of mine as well. But yeah, TikTok is a problem for sure. Dude, I watched the, yeah, they're making the cupcakes and them like lining the cupcake with the icing perfect circles. Like who are these people that do this? You sometimes just want to like be in awe and then other times you just want to laugh. That's just like how our brains have worked. You also realize it doesn't take much, right? Like a Marvel movie is like, whoa, holy shit.

But also, if you just mow your lawn fast, I'll watch that too. Dude, I was watching Tom Siger and Louis C.K. talking on that fucking podcast on the Thompson Gers podcast. They show Louis the video of the dude getting pinned up against his wall in his garage by a car. And I don't know if I've ever laughed harder in my entire life than watching that dude get pinned up against his wall in his garage. It's a fucked up video. but fuck man like that's all it takes for me is like well and then their reaction to it louis's like oh my god everything about that video is what i need to just be dumbed down sat down in a chair and just laughed to myself for hours

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Tofer. Tofer says, do you think the best putter in the world plays on the PGA tour slash another pro tour? Or do you think the best putter in the world could be just a local stick in any town, USA or somewhere else in the world? It's got to be a pro, right? I think it just has to be No, I think we talked about this already

Really? Oh, was it just putting? Well, we talked about how like a long drive Guys is a better driver than anyone on tour at driving But like They don't have the other things

To be a pro golfer But there's definitely someone's better At driving on somewhere else in the world Than everyone And Rory than everyone What's better mean? Longer, straight or consistent Like just more number

Higher numbers higher swing speed. I think putting is easier to like get your head around, right? If you're a good putter, you're a good putter. If you're a driver with a golf ball, you hit it long, you hit it straight. Like how can you shape it? Like those are different to me. And I guess if you're going to talk about like situational driving,

but that's not fair to the people that haven't been put in the situations. Like, oh, Rory's able to step up and hit an amazing drive in a playoff hole. Like, but like this guy that plays in his backyard that hits a ball 420 yards doesn't get that opportunity to do that. I do think that there are people that possess the skills. Like, dude, there's basketball players that are, like, better shooters than, like, Steph Curry. You see these videos of some of these guys. I don't think that's true.

Bro, because he's situationally in the NBA, but if you're just talking skill, I think there's, like, people that have perfected it. Like, there's videos on YouTube all the time of, like, dunk. These guys, these dunks, they've ever seen these guys? They're, like, doing flips and in between the legs. And, like, guys, like, LeBrona, like, we couldn't even do that. Like, you're insane? Like, this guy's perfected, like, trick dunk.

Yeah, but I don't know if it's being tricks is, like, equivalent to just like being able to score more points. You know what I mean? Like I think, I almost think that's, yeah, driving and dunking to me are similar, just like putting and shooting are similar to me.

Like I genuinely think Steph Curry is the best shooter on planet Earth. But I do know there's probably guys who can jump higher than LeBron and they can probably have cooler dunks because they can stay up in the air longer. Yeah, I just like, yeah, I think you're putting everything in situational because like, yeah,

Steph Curry is the best in the NBA of all time. He can make a three at any time. But if we're talking about skill, like who can hit a three or like who can hit a drive the best in the world, who can step up to a T and hit the best drive possible, there has to be someone that has gotten and done better than Roy McElroy. But I guess I would say like if you took someone, like I don't know that that's an equatable. Yeah. Like if you took that same person and you took Roy McElroy and you said like, all right,

over the course of the entire season like who's going to gain more strokes driving it's going to be Roy McRoy I think because he's going to hit it like straighter and longer but yeah that is a fair point like there's someone in the world that if you stood on the first T at like Augusta then like you said you get 10

I get 10 like that someone long drive person is going to hit it one of those drives like better than Roy McRoy's best drive way yeah I think it's significant but consistently then it goes swings back to Roy direction, which I think is ultimately determines better.

It's your, yeah, it's whatever opinion, it's like whatever your version of, whatever you want better to mean. I think it would be like your best versus your best one shot, you know what I mean? One shot or 10 shots. You also hear, like I remember hearing a story

about DJ. Maybe it was that Taylor Made Media Day where someone challenged him to a long drive. And because the person who challenged him had looked at the numbers and and like these are the averages and this is what it is. But then he can take the governor off when he wants to. Like the one he puts in tournament play, DJ, is one where he knows where it's going.

But if he wants to rip the cover off the ball and he wants to get into a long drive contest with somebody, he can make it happen. I'd be curious if Rory has a similar gear. He for sure, I think does. Dude, he, remember when we were at Media Day with us? I mean, I think it's in the video where he, Rory carried it, what, 340 something? He carried it? Like he carried one 3.45?

at Eastlake or something this week, if I remember right? That's unbelievable. Did we talk about this hypothetical before we finish up this show? I remember talking about it on the golf course. So I don't know if I was with my buddies or we were together, but it was basically I was saying if you were like a video game character, like PGA tour 2K23 and you had to like put all your sliders, like your attributes, if you could make one of your attributes,

100, what would you pick? And like, what do you think would make you the best golfer possible? So, and I think we broke it down to driving, irons, wedges, putting. I think it's irons for me. I'm going to say irons too. And that has changed from driver because I believe in whenever we had a similar conversation, that was like, if you could be the best in the world at one attribute, what would it be? And I said driver.

And somebody convinced me they're like, You'd imagine if you could just paint flag sticks all day, every day, no matter what, no matter where you were, no matter where you drove it. Like how good you could be at golf and how fun that would be. So I think I'm going to say irons. I think if you broke down, I think like Tiger at his best or even like a Morikawa nowadays, like when you're the best iron player in the world, you're the best player in the world. Because everybody, especially at that level, can sort of put and can put the driver in the fairway or they can put themselves in a good spot. I think when you're irons, like you're saying rigs, when you can just drive. it next to flag sticks, you are unbeatable.

But dude, all right, so in that same category, in that same question, what do you think peak Tiger Woods's putting attributes were at? Like, would you say that they were in 91 or like an 88 or 95? Like, imagine being a hundred putter where you're just draining everything. It's like it's fake video game shit. It's like when you play NBA and you put Steph Curry all the way up to 100 and you can make all the full court shots. It's like, dude, I think with my game right now, I'm hitting drive.

decent. I'm getting around the green. I'm getting on the green and two almost like pretty consistently. Imagine I made everything. It's be like, I'd be on tour tomorrow. But see, I don't know that a hundred would mean you make everything, right? Like I think you'd be the best putter ever. Right. Like, but like a hundred iron doesn't mean you're jarring everything from the fairway. It does not. Then it shouldn't be the same for putter. Right. I don't think you, no, but I think you're making everything like, I'm being sarcastic, but you're making all the ones you usually, like are close to, like a 10-foot putt if you're 100-putter you're making. A 15-foot putt you're making.

Like, there's a level, obviously. I think you're thinking like 60-foot putts. No, I don't think you're making those. But you're definitely getting them to tap in range. You're the best butter in the world. You're never three-pudding. You're always two putting. Yeah, but it'd be interesting, like, if you looked at, like, whoever...

So whoever number two in the world in putting is, if their putting is like a 97, you're only like 3% better than they are at putting. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If you're 100. Yeah, it's like which skill has, yeah, which skill has the biggest gap from one to two? For keeping in the video game realm, I think like when you think about Madden and NBA, like when guys are 100, it's like the legacy players that they bring back where like you can you can pick like, oh four Peyton Manning or something like that where he was like the best of, you know what I mean? Some random fucking year.

Like, like Spieth in 2015. Right. But I guess right. I guess the reason I still pick up. irons is if your irons are great then you don't have to be that great of a putter like you don't have to be like if you are a but how far rating would it be trend if you were a hundred iron player and a 22 putter and you're just missing everything like you're and you're you're missing but i don't left and right but you'd be so much better at golf i think than you are now if you flipped it i think

really yeah i agree all of us it's irons for sure i just think you would never be having that bad of a day if you're the greatest iron player in the world what about wedges doesn't that solve both issues where like you don't hit the green because your irons aren't that good but then you just like either chip it in or you're just right on the edge you don't really have to put you'd never have to put the best wedge player ever but i think like irons honestly i think irons would you'd you'd you'd always be in the hole like you would never not be in great shape you could never have that bad of a day because you're just hitting the ball where you want with your irons all day long whereas i think even if you're the best putter in the world like

If your driver and your swing just sucks that day, you might be like hitting it out of bounds. You're just like, oh, put in for seven, I made it. It's just like it could be a grind of a day. Whereas I think of you are the best iron player or the best driver. Like, yeah, you're going to be. You do got to be out there. You got to be in the fair wave.

Yeah, you need to be in a good spot. But like I think I said, this last step too, is if you're the best iron player in the world, you're a hundred iron player, you could probably hit your two iron off the tee, like 270 yards and like get it dead straight all the time. So you could just paint your way around. Like you'd be a magician and then you'd just be shit, normal shit us on the greens.

It'd be pretty funny, actually. Yeah, I think it's irons. I think I'd take putting. I think I might have said driving last time or I might have said irons the last time we talked about this. I think I'm putting now. Just if I'm adding it to my game tomorrow. Right. Because yeah, your putting is an ideal at the moment.

My putting is not ideal and I just think you'd win so many matches. Like if you're not trying to make it onto the tour Like if you're just the best putter in the world And you show up and you start draining These like delicate right to left 15 footers Every hole and you're people can't believe that like Yeah you maybe like maybe you like hit one in the trees off the tea And you like knocked one up in front of the green

You chipped up to the back of the green now you're just like Grading these 25 footers People can be like are you fucking kidding me this guy You can rattle people's cages too When you just make putts and matches It's infuriating And on the other end, it's so satisfying. That ball just drops into a hole.

The hole's over. You finished it. You did the thing. It's so satisfying. And I think as an opponent in a match, you're almost happy that your guy picked irons because, all right, each hole you're like, this dude's striping irons. But when I get to the green, there's a chance he just misses that birdie putt.

There's a chance he misses that par putt. He's a horrific putter. His pace is so off. He's putting it off the green. Like, he's just not good. I mean, he's a Trent or me. Like, we have no idea what we're doing at them. blind. So it's like I'm still in this hole. I think if you're against a Kevin Kisner type

putter, you're never in the hole. It doesn't matter what they did going up there. Yeah. Yeah. You're just giving them a chance. You could always be caught. Like you could be caught at any time. You know? Downhill pie. It's like fuck now I'm I'm putting from a fourth pot. So you don't have a lead. You're just like and even like you're scared every time you get on the green because even when they don't make it, it almost goes in every time and you're like, fuck, this guy's relentless. Kisner's like comment to you that was on Instagram where he said have you like how does it feel to have a opponent that just never messes up once and you're like it feels amazing he's like I've never had that ever must be cool also shots at Scott Brown when he said that Brown he's great he's been his partner we have to talk about real quickly our friends of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration We're going to paint, you know, you're hanging out with some friends. We're going to paint a picture, putting back a few drinks, having a couple of cocktails.

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It's not worth it. You could kill someone. You can kill yourself. It's very, very silly. So please do not do that. All right. Trent, what else you watch it on TikTok?

What else you get into on TikTok? I'm curious because I've avoided it for the same reasons I think you were avoiding it. Well, I'll tell you, I was actually telling Frankie about this when we were shooting Breaking 90. But one of the things that keeps popping up in my algorithm is murder confession. Wow. Dude, I watched that last night too to try and get a feel for what my friend is doing and I couldn't get into it.

It was. It was scared the shit out of me. Oh, yeah. Murder Confessions turns into just creepy TikToks where it's text on the screen and there's creepy music playing and it'll just tell you about this guy like 100 years ago who killed 15 people and just got away with it. And it's like, fuck. Now I'm like I'm about to go to bed. Don't you want to just look at boobs and butts and stuff? Like, what are we doing?

Bro. I sat in bed and I'm like, this girl, this girl was. sitting there in a confession room being like, yeah, and I shot my husband. And then he was twitching. So I didn't want him to, I didn't want him to suffer. So I just shot him in the head like three or four times. And then that did him in. So I'm happy that he didn't really have much pain. And they're like, holy shit. Like, who are these people? And why is this on TikTok? The other thing that I got caught in the other night. And I legitimately got upset that I asked. I shouldn't have asked. No, no, no. But this one's bad. This one's better. This one's better. I got for like three

hours I got caught into a soldier homecomings, which is, three hours. Dude, you just get wrapped up in them and you're just, you're, you're, you're crying and you're just, it's so beautiful. They're surprising their parents. They're surprising their significant other. They're surprising their dog. And their dog is like, holy fuck, man.

I didn't know you were ever coming back. And, and it's just, you just get caught up in these wormholes of whatever the algorithm decides that you have become interested in. And they're usually right. Like I'm always the things that I'm seeing in my algorithm are the things that I'm stopping and looking at. So it just keeps feeding you what you're watching. Yeah, those homecomings, man, I got I got stuck in those. Remember when you were anti-dog on this podcast and you said that dogs don't actually have feelings, they're just waiting to get fed?

I do remember saying that, yeah. Do you stand by that? There's a part of me that still believes that. They see that person coming home from wherever, even if they've, even if it's just a person that went out and, you know, was getting coffee. They're like, that's a person that feeds me. That's fucking dope that they're back. Come on, bro. It's scientifically proven that they have feelings and memories.

Okay. You don't believe that. You want to stand by that. Like a year later, you still stand by that dogs have no feelings. I don't flip flop. I'm just saying that that's part of me that thinks. Like,

yeah, and all the examples that you're giving, like, yeah, they have memories and they have feelings. And the memories are, I remember when that person fed me. You don't think dogs feel love and,

like, and happiness. And that, like, with makes them happy. It has nothing to do. Maybe they're full at that time. It has nothing to do of food.

You don't think it ever has nothing to do of food. Stop feeding that dog and see what happens. That's crazy to me. I love dogs. It's a false sense of love then. Like when you're hugging them and they're licking you, you're like, so you, Trent Ryan's brain thinks that when this beautiful golden retriever is like on its belly and I'm rubbing it.

I don't need to, I don't have to. I don't, you're projecting human consciousness onto a dog. You're being like, oh, they definitely feel everything that I feel for sure. No, but like, no, I'm not. I'm just saying that I, well, I, maybe. I mean, I would assume that they have like similar feelings to us. I don't know that that's a bad thing to project onto them that they. I would imagine their brains are quite different than ours.

It's just amazing that you can still get the enjoyment out of the love of a dog when you think it's all for them just getting fed. Like, like, like, like, like, like, it's a fake love then. It's almost like. No, they definitely still love you. They're masking it. They're masking it. Why can't the love be based in food? Why is there what's wrong with that?

They see you. They're like, how love works. Why not? That can be how love works. It can be how love works for a dog. I don't understand. You like,

you want them to have every feeling that you have. And I just don't know if that's necessarily true. No, I want the love to be genuine. Like I love you. Like I love you. They want to love your fun. They want to love your hair color in that.

Oh, I love the way. I love you for you for you for all this stuff you do for me for like walking me. and for and for like rubbing the backside of my ear and like and and giving me haircuts and all these things like I love you for all that stuff from saving me from the shelter like it has nothing to do with because of the biscuits you feed me I mean maybe it has some of it to do with it but like I would hope that there's some love and genuine

care from a dog is that do you think that's an impossible feat I just don't know if it's true oh I don't know that makes me depressed then why I still I still I still I think my mic like went out or something. I know you love dogs. That's why I'm trying to wrap my head around how you can. Oh yeah. I think my mic came unplugged. No, I still love dogs.

I love dogs. I really do. I actually want to get one really badly, but we travel so much. But yeah, I just, I don't know. Same. I've been thinking that for a couple years now. Fuck, dude. I think, I can't believe my mic came unplugged or something.

What's going on with you guys in a nice? Or something, dude. Yeah, I just want something to hang out with me. but it's just tough when we travel so much and I don't know when the travel's gonna let up so you don't want to be a shitty dog owner I do not want to do that I want to be around to feed them so they'll love me

Ah Wow wow Wow Yeah I'm a little torn to be honestly I think you both I think I wish that it were like Frankie but I also think that that's sort of like

that's sort of like me wishing like Toy Story was real and my toys were real could like hang out with me like they're not yeah what i love what i love my dog to love my personality and be like oh trent's so cool and like he's got a great job and man it's he's cool but like i just don't think i don't think those things come into account you're devastated frank i love you can still love dogs dude because i still really love dogs they're great i'm just going to choose not to believe you i'm gonna that's fine and i by the way there's a very good chance that i'm super wrong who fucking knows i was out with friends and they have such a cute dog

Nala like the cutest little it looks like I mean it's a bigger dog but looks like a like a fluffy I don't know what kind of dog maybe a doodle it's like a doodle type of dog but just looks like a something you'd get a build a bear and uh they have the camera set up and we were out at dinner getting margaritas and we're looking at this thing and like this dog is just staring at the door inside their apartment just being like when are those people coming home you know what I mean and it's so devastating like how do you even leave the house How do you leave the house when you have a camera And your dog seeing how sad they are

Yeah, I don't, that camera thing I don't know that I could do Or I wouldn't want to check in on Unless it's like an emergency But then I guess like Yeah, I guess if you're gonna have it Why the fuck wouldn't you check in? How about they said that the dog

How about they said the dog Would sometimes go up to the camera To see if they were in the camera Because they know when they set up the camera And then they leave Like there's something to do with that So like the dog will pop up on the couch And look inside

You in there you in there i'm hungry yeah exactly starving you look like a fucking dog looking for his tail right now what's happening i don't know if i don't know if my mic works oh there we go it's working that sounds good yeah that sounds um yeah no i would um i would love to get a dog

what dog would you get it i don't have any specifics i would love i would just um i would just adopt one i would find one i don't have a specific breed in mind i would just We had, I've had an Australian Shepherd and had a Chesapeake Bay Retriever, which was basically a souped up version of like a chocolate, or a Chesapeake Bay like lab, which is basically a version of a chocolate lab. We thought it was a chocolate lab forever. And he was huge. His name was Marvin. He was huge. He was like fucking 100 pounds.

And then eventually somebody came to us that actually knew what they were talking about that, I don't know, came and visited it or something like that. And they were like, I don't think this is a chocolate lab. this thing. So he basically was like a steroid version of like a chocolate lab, which I think turned out to be like a Chesapeake Bay Labrador or something like that. Wow. Yeah, we never knew what kind

of dogs we had. We would just go to the shelter. You pay 90 bucks for them. And they were just whatever they were. They never had any sort of they weren't pure breads in any way. So they were just, they were the dogs. I don't know what they were. Lucky and Sammy. Shout out to them. R. IP. Damn. It's your good names. Lucky and Sammy.

Sammy Sosa And then I don't know why lucky I don't remember Oh my dog's named after a baseball player Jeter Oh nice Well Maltese I love that guy Somebody was asking me good female dog names the other day Nala is a good one

I like Nala Nala is a really good one I love human names for dogs Yeah like Edward Right Ralph Yeah that's great Like I don't know who my face I do it by the way

Dibs on Ralph for whenever all of us get dogs, I've been thinking about Ralph forever. Yeah, Ralph's great. Just fucking imagine if Ralph was sitting on that chair back there. Fucking Ralph. I think you need a Ralph, dude. So you only miss your peace.

You're living by yourself. You can get like, you can get a fucking someone to come in and check on Ralph all the time while you're traveling. Every time I bring up a dog, you tell me not to get. Well, now that you pointed at the chair, I can picture a dog there makes me want you to get a dog, dude, right there. I think you'd do great with a fucking like a French bulldog,

like a nice fat, meaty, like lazy dog that just wants to sit on the chair all day. You guys are part of the reason why I'm not getting a dog because we all have this job and we all travel a ton. If you guys give me your blessing that I'm going to be able to have a dog

and still make this thing work, I will get a dog in the next week. Maybe wait for like a year. I mean, we're still grinding on travel. My thinking was next fall, I think I'll be in a place where I can get a dog. Okay. A little less travel.

Well, yeah, hopefully things will be like, we'll know where we're going. Right now we're going to everything. thing in everywhere. It's like you got to somehow be somewhat connected to your home if you're going to get one. So yeah, I would wait a little bit. All right. I like that. You know what, dog? Aside for my own dog, I think my favorite dog on the planet is Alexander Cooper's dog, Henry. I mean, it's just the best dog of all time. Actually makes me tear up just thinking about it. I love that dog. I love Henry more than I love most people in my life. When she puts him up,

And listen, she's not a Barcelona employee anymore. It is what it is called Daddy. She's a superstar now. Merchandise. Everything's still good with that. That, whatever she does with that dog, I mean, that dog is so fucking funny. And when he's galloping on the beach and meets a friend or something, it's the best. Riggs are you aware of this dog?

Because I got put on to this dog. Okay. I got put on to Henry like a year ago. No, it was Hubs who put me on to him. Really? Yeah. He was like, you got to check out. Because I follow her on.

Twitter and Instagram. Is this like TikTok? She puts them on TikTok. Oh, her Instagram story, dude. Her Instagram story. Maybe I just don't follow her stuff on Instagram. The second you lay eyes on Henry, you're not going to believe. He's like a human. He is like a human. He's this big fluffy fucking dog that is, it's an incredible dog. There's no doubt about it. He's like a golden doodle, but he's more golden than he is doodle. So I think that's why he has like the really fluffy straight hair as opposed to like the curly hair. It's amazing. I'm always worried Henry's too hot, but they seem to, I mean, he seems to, I mean, he seems to you live in a pretty great lifestyle so they probably got that figured out.

Wonder if this clip gets to Alexander Cooper. She on such another level at this point where she doesn't even know that people are like this one never. No chance. This happened. Dude, no way. I mean, she obviously knows people love Henry. Look at how fluffy this guy is. Yeah.

Oh, my God. Dude, then she'll post videos of her like robbing him down and he's just loving it. The slow motion videos of him running into the bed. Oh my God. It's really great. And no, there's a 0.000 zero point zero, maybe a negative chance. You think she knows who we are at all from being in the office? I'm just looking at pictures of Alex Cooper.

So I'm going to put my phone down here. You don't think she remembers us at all, facial at all? I don't think she ever knew who we were. Yeah, me neither. There's no way. I don't think so. That's crazy. She's got a fucking cute dog.

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fun little tuesday night this is going to be coming out thursday if anything else breaks or happens we can jump on and talk for a few minutes but everybody have a great labor day weekend long three day weekend next time we come to you we will be live from myrtle beach south carolina we're going to be there for four or five days we're playing a bunch of golf we'll be doing all kinds of sandy white beaches and going to canos and villas and all kinds of dinners can be amazing uh i think we're going to be doing some cooking so we're going to be filet and fish i think and cooking yeah and i got a we all just got a tweet while we're on here some guy went back and read uh watched all of our abandoned series and was like i was craving like a list of like ranking the best courses ranking the best

restaurants ranking like the best activities at the end like can you guys like just like so that it's so much easier visually so i can see see like exactly when I'm booking the trip what to do as opposed to like having to watch all your videos where like you have to watch an hour and a half video see what kind of restaurant they went to. So we will make watch the video. I like that. But we'll also, we'll upload some sort of recap best to do. I think that'd be great also like you put it on Twitter or something like if you're going to Myrtle Beach here's like the crash course on what to do at the end. At the very end,

here's like a one minute recap of where to go, how to do it and what to do. So we're going to have that in mind when we go to Myrtle Beach by the way. I think we should rank, we should each rank our own courses too, each to our own rankings of the courses we play too. So we have like a whole graphic that's got each person's rank. I like it. All right. We got Column coming up next.

Only saw him in Minnesota. So I'm excited to catch up with him again on the finish to his season he made in the FedEx Cup playoffs and the whole deal. And then we'll be back after Laborated weekend. Be safe. Do not drink and drive. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard. I'm going to miss the interview, I think, but tell Callum, I think he's hot. Okay, I will. Yeah, I think we just start ripping Trent Daddy. Welcome. Any more holeouts? Any more fucking long puts made?

No, I mean, you saw my greatest bunker shot in the history of my life. And I don't know, I need you around more so you can see more of them because the luck just hasn't been there without you. Yeah, it was fucking unbelievable. Have you, has that video being compiled yet? I need to see that. Um, have we put that out yet that video? The 3M pro. We haven't put it out yet, I don't think.

I think we got that slated that's coming. And I think we had to be a little bit tricky with like, you know, tours a little protective of media. And it had to be a certain period of time since the tournaments. I think we're kind of working through that. I didn't even get to see that because I got pulled away for the, for the to hit, you know, absolute banana super blocks into the fucking water in front of like 200 people. The thing we were really hoping because it was a part three that we were playing.

and there was this technology on the T where they had put a camera on the pin. So whenever you hit your T shot, if you hit a hole in one, obviously it's the greatest video of all time. And I hit one into the bunker and then I made my second shot. And I ran back there as the other guys went to the next T

being like, was the camera on to see my bunker shot? And they said, absolutely not. That camera was only on for the T shots. So we didn't get that footage of it, but we had enough cameras out there. What a bad system. That should be recorded all times. The whole time.

I couldn't agree more. I mean, yeah. So, Calum, I have to say Frankie had to catch a flight. He was devastated to miss and he told us to tell you that he thinks you're really handsome. Oh, thanks, bud.

Appreciate it. Yeah. Yeah, he was bummed. He was devastated. He's hopping a flight to Colorado. He, of course, in Frankie fashion, has a family trip and then a celebration he's going to

that he doesn't want to be photographed at. So he's got a whole thing going on. Yeah, a whole deal. in his head. So you told me you were saying just before we started recording that you just kind of got the clubs out, how long has it been since you kind of got the clubs going? A couple of days, I kind of hit some balls at the end of last week and just knocked the rust off, really.

I've been down for maybe two weeks now since obviously that's when I missed the cut in Memphis. I got straight home and, yeah, I've just left them in the garage for a few weeks, which is what I needed, I think. it's been a long... For somebody... Yeah. Somebody like you, like that first swing,

is that like you have no idea where it's going to go, or is it pretty pure? No, no. It's definitely... I don't have a clue where it's going to go. I'm going to chunk it... Hit it sideways. I mean, to be honest,

that first session back last week, that's the best I've ever felt picking the clubs up through a break. But then the second session was pretty dicey. What does a break like that do? Because I feel like we hear that a lot from professional golfers. where they'll show up to a press conference

and someone will ask them, like, how's your game? And they'll say, I haven't touched a club in a month or two weeks or three weeks. What does that break do for you mentally? Yeah, I think that's the main thing. What it does for me is, and golf as a professional is just the mental side.

I mean, to get away from the game and do some normal things in life, like change shitty diapers and drink a few beers and have some good times with your friends. I mean, it's so important to reset that mental side of the game for professionals, we're so in tune with it every week and it just gets a lot.

So for me, it's just to literally get away from golf, not think about it. And yeah, just totally reset. So hard not to think about it, hard not to think about your swing thoughts and stuff? 100%. I mean, as soon as I have time away, I'm like, right, I'm ready to go.

I'm ready to get back out there. But this time, I purposely didn't get them out for, well, it was like, I think 13 days. to be exact. And that's quite a long time for me because I'm kind of, I get bored pretty quick of just sitting around and doing nothing. So I've filled my time in with a few different activities, being out with the boys a few times.

And I like to bike. I've been out of my bike. I bought an e-bikes. I've been out on that and just, yeah, dicking around, really. I've been thinking about getting into bike, cycling bike. What kind of, how do you use, like, do you already know about it or do you just go in blind and buy a bike? To be fair to be, I did it in lockdown because there was nothing to do.

All the golf courses were closed and couldn't do anything else. So I just went into a bike shop. I was like, right, give me a bike. And I mean, obviously I used to bike as a kid, but I didn't really done it for a long time. So I bought myself a bike and then the next time I was home, I bought a racing bike. I've got all areas ticked now. I've got like a mountain bike, a racing bike, which is obviously for the road. and then I've just bought an electric mountain bike, which is fucking crazy.

Just 30 miles an hour. Whoa. So that's interesting. We're talking about this because I've actually been thinking about buying a bike as well. I just moved out to Long Island out of the city. And we talked a couple episodes ago about how I hate exercising because it's so boring. Like if you put me on a treadmill, I'm going to quit in two days. I just, I can't be a rat on a wheel going over and over again.

So I thought a bike would be interesting. You know, I would just ride around this new town that I'm in. but the part that caught me up was the part that we're talking about what kind of bike do I buy is it a mountain bike is it a road bike is it a like there's so many different options that I'm too intimidated to even go into a bike shop now all depends what you want do you want I don't know what I want tough yeah exactly I don't know then I can help you but I like I definitely like mountain biking just because being on the road it just gets kind of monotonous and boring and obviously in England I mean, the roads are so shitty that you hit like a huge pothole in the road and that's it. I mean, you're pretty much dead. Do you wear a helmet? Do you wear helmet? If I lived in Arizona, I'd be getting a road bike because obviously there's some unbelievable biking out there.

So yeah, that's Trent. I'm right up your alley. I'm the exact same mindset where I want to do cardio. I want my heart to be healthier. I'm getting a little worried about that. I refuse to run because it's shit on my knees. I get shin splints, your back, it's shit for you. I hate running.

I think it fucking sucks. And then treadmill and anything that's like stationary, I think is so lame. Like I just could never, I could never go to the same room. It's like sweaty and it feels like they get, uh, it's just, I don't like it. I don't want to go there and just be in like the local communal like gym room in the apartment building. So that's out. So I've been thinking I've always liked and we always would with hockey, we would bike a lot because it's very similar muscles. You really, you know, you're supposed to like bend your, you know, whatever.

You bike a lot. And I always could get through the biking and then Arizona. It's beautiful out here. That's you don't have to go that far. You can get up into some of the mountains that are really, really near a lot of the towns. So I want to get into biking. So you're saying I just walk into a bike shop and I say, I need a fucking bike and they'll figure it out. Yeah.

I mean, I'll ask you a couple of questions. What do you want to do? But if, for instance, I mean, I've heard Arizona's got some, well, like you say, great trials to ride on. So you'd probably get like a some kind of mountain bike. Or you could get like they do hybrids as well. They do like with different. They do they do a mix really. Just it all depends.

Do you wear a helmet on you when you bike? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got to do that. What kind of outfit?

You got like a fucking, you got one of those tight like bright suits on? Yeah. The full likely. Yeah. But that's that's only when I'm doing my road biking. But for mountain biking, I just like to get out and just have a, I don't know. let's say do 20 miles. So I just wear like gym stuff and just get out there.

But this new, new e-bike I've just bought, it's fucking crazy. It's wild. So does that, with the e-bike, do you have, does it have a motor on it? Yeah, it's like a battery. So you charge it up.

And it assists you when you're pedaling and you can turn all the different settings on so you can have it on like, slight boost, boost or ultra boost. and I mean it's pretty they're quite heavy because obviously

they've got a battery in the frame but this thing yeah it's the guy who had it before me he had it chipped so it's got like

this chip on so there's no limit it does like 35 mile an hour up a hill oh shit it's crazy and it's well

I went out on it the first night and it's yeah I need to be careful because I can see myself getting hurt on that thing is that thing

is that thing street legal yes yep you don't have to be in sure it's just yeah a lot of people have them those these days because like you say everyone's not saying you boys are lazy but everyone's lazy and they need the they want the assistance so they can enjoy the downhill part and obviously get to the top pretty quick we're lazy sounds amazing yeah you're i mean you're speaking to the right uh you know crew right now with that

that's 35 on a bike 35 on a bike is fast as fuck like if you're going if you're going 20 or 25 a golf cart that feels like you're flying a bike yeah it's crazy really is you get any bad wrecks you get any bad wrecks yet no i try to be as careful as possible i've came off a few times but i always try to avoid things that i know i can't or i would get myself into trouble with you know what i mean oh yeah i know some experienced experienced cyclists and yeah i need to be careful because I can see myself coming off and breaking an arm or a collarbone and then, yep, I'll be sitting on the couch for a few months, so I've got to be careful.

Right, your body is your thing. That's very dangerous to a certain point. Yeah, yeah. But like you say, I'm the same as you boys. I hate sitting on a treadmill or a stationary bike in a sweaty, smelly gym. You know what I mean? So I like to be outdoors, really. Yeah.

What other activities you get into back home in the UK? You guys go to games or anything? You go to any, like, soccer matches? Yeah, I do. It's pretty tough because obviously I'm a Liverpool fan, so to get hold of one of them tickets is kind of like rocking horse shit. It's not easy, but I've got a couple of connections through actually the commissioner of the tour, Mr Monaghan. His best friend actually owns or is the chairman of Fenway Sports Group, which owns Liverpool. Yeah. He's hooked me up a few times. He's looked after me, which is good.

Look at that. The commish. He came right through. I can't say thank you enough to him. That's amazing. That's great. Yeah, I always get interested in that because when we go over there, a few times I've been over there.

I've been to London. I've been to, and then I've been to Scotland twice. And the UK feels it's just similar enough to the states, but also you guys got like your little quirkiness that's just like a little, it's just different enough too. That's super interesting to me. So I always get, you know, I'm just curious about kind of what the, what kind of activities you guys get into,

different type of stuff that you do. Do you do any other, play any other sports? No, I don't really. No, I used to play soccer, but I can't do that from my, well, knees, really. I've got a bad busted up left knee, and I just can't afford to do that. So biking, going out with the boys, golfing. I don't know, personally, I prefer America. I think I feel as though there's a lot more to do in America.

Okay. And everyone in America seems up for doing things. Whereas in England, everyone's like, I can't do this. I can't do that. So I'm definitely on the American side, for sure. Where do you live again in the States when you're here? Orlando, just Lake Northern. Yeah.

People like to do shit in the, I feel like it depends where you're at in the US. Like we talk about Colorado a lot because my parents are there. Frankie's got family out there. He's going there right now. Colorado, people are super active. and they like to do shit. People are skiing, they're biking, they're running, like they're super active. And then there's other places like, you know, a lot of, some of the spots where I'm,

like, from there's certain little towns that are Midwestern where people don't want to do shit. So it just kind of depends, I think, where you're at in the States. But Orlando with, we have Disney and it's kind of a, you know, almost the whole place feels like a carnival, like Orlando, that there is, I feel like that area people want to do shit. And a lot of the, a lot of the cities you guys go to on tour, I feel like I'm pretty active. Like in Minnesota, where we saw you 3M, Minnesota people were pretty active, I feel like. They got their fucking lakes and they're always doing cool shit and they're fishing. So people in the States, I feel like, depending where you go, can be pretty active.

Yeah, definitely. Do you go to Disney? I've only been once. Took our, my partner came out for, when was it? It was at start of this year some time and we had a week. And we went one day and I was like, yeah, that's probably enough for me. we got no no it's a little bit that's a little bit too much of america for you it's super america we got uh you got to go back we got a great disney connection for you this guy jordan that we know

who is the nicest guy in the world he's in this special club and he we had like our whole fucking crew he took like six of us so we went to disney with him we put out video uh we couldn't even put out all the stuff because there's like he's in such a cool club that you can't even film a bunch of it but you go back with this guy You won't wait in line. You'll be able to walk into like secret fucking bars and get drinks. Like it's a whole different experience with this guy. Well, that's the thing.

That's yeah. When you went, did you wait? Were you waiting on lines a bunch? Who me? Well, I bought the, uh, it was like a skip the line pass. Fast pass. Okay. That was the one.

And then, but the only problem is like we went to one of the, one of the parks where you couldn't drink. So we snuck some drinks in and it was strange. It was, yeah. you got to be able to drink yeah I agree you know what are we doing yeah this guy

next time you go we'll hook you up with our boy and he again he just and he loves it like he's not he doesn't just use it for corporate connections and blah blah

he's like obsessed with Disney like when he each like ride a new thing that you walk into he tells you about the history of it he's like a mini tour guide when you go with him so being with somebody like that that's got that passion

and he's got the great hookup it's a whole different experience I can never do Disney any other way. So you said it's been 13 days. Now last week or so you've been hitting balls. What's next? What's next on the schedule? Yeah, so I'm signed up for the first event in Napa.

I'm pretty excited about that because Napa's pretty cool. Well, it's sweet anyway. Good wine. Golf course is awesome. So I'm starting my season in Napa in a couple. Well, in two weeks just gone Sunday. Sorry, two weeks pretty much today. So yeah, that's first event of the year and yeah, I'm ready to get going.

I've got a pretty busy fall schedule plan, so need to kind of get off to a better start than I did last year. But yeah, I'm excited. I mean, like you say, I can pick my own schedule. So I'm just excited about what this next year holds. For all, I feel like it's a big time for you two. You get ahead a little bit in FedEx Cup points and all that deal. I'll, you know, just not everybody's playing. the fields are going to be a little bit more getable.

It's like fucking go time for you. Yeah, for sure. I mean, played the golf courses as well last year, so a bit of experience there and kind of know what, well, know what to expect. At the end of the day, I've had a full year on the PGA2 and how. This time last year I was probably shit myself,

you know, heading out to Napa to play the first PGA2 event. I had to do the orientation, so you had to get there on Friday afternoon before the event, spent too long in Napa. you know, just it was dragged on that week because you had to be there as a rookie to go through the orientation, which is a three-day ordeal, which just, yeah, it's awful. You're sitting a fast room for pretty much three days and, it's all the do and don'ts of the

PGA tour, which is just wild, but that's kind of what they've been doing for a long time now. And yeah, like you say, I know the golf courses, and I think there's a few, well, there's a number golf course in the fall that suit me so i'm i'm ready to get going really that orientation i've never even really heard of that that sounds awful it's it's it's brutal you ask anyone it's brutal is it three days you said yeah so they do they do soften it by taking you to on the final night they take it to like a winery a private winery and it's like five-star food and beverages and they look after you but apart from that it's pretty uh monotonous and fifth boring yeah wow what are the what are the dudes like he could golf shots and like

smile like what are they well they go through a lot of things like they do media training um they go through um the rules of golf um it's good it's good this time last year obviously corbin around so we had a COVID speech about the doves and don'ts of COVID. Play slow enough so the cameras can see your shots. Exactly. That's a one. A person player that was brought up.

And they have all these different guests that come in. And like you say, yeah, it's crazy. But we have to do it. That's fucking horrible. They bring guests in like, oh, anything that sounds like school, which that just sounds like school, is like once you get to a certain age,

you're like, I don't want to do any of this anymore. more. Yeah. And hey, there's multiple choice questions. There's these little exams at the end as well. It's to tell you what, it's wild. Oh, dude, man. Do you guys get like clicks going?

Like clicks, a little groupies being like, you know, where you guys talk shit about the orientation? Yeah. And like you say, it's just hard to sit there and obviously you just want to play golf. You just got to the PGA too. But it's just one of those things that they have to do and tick the box of, you know, it's just. sure it sucks do you get to like do you get to escape during that and go hit like golf balls you

like hey i'm here to practice my golf game no um there's like breaks for there's breaks for lunch and obviously food and then that's it's like literally i'm telling you when i'm promise you it's like i'm sure it's 7 30 till 5 7 30 a m for 5 and it's yeah it's wild it's all right so this time around for you it's going to be much better because you're just going to I don't need to go, yeah. I mean, I actually spoke to the lady the other day. I said, have fun of orientation. I'll see when I see you.

So, yeah, are you bringing the fam out for Napa? No, it's just me. She's got, like you say, she's busy with work. And I'm going to, yeah, the plan is to play Napa. I've got a week off. So I've got my coach and trainer coming out the second week from like a boot camp, little mini boot camp. We're going to play Nona, Sawgrass, Seminole,

and do some work in between and, yeah, try and have a good week with them. And then I think it's Sanderson, Vegas, and then it's Japan, flies to Japan. So there's quite a busy schedule coming up. Well, you're wrapping up. Oh, yeah, big time. Japan, you're going to be like you're back where it all began.

Yeah, I know. Everyone keeps asking, like, will you play Japan? I'm like, fuck, yeah. I mean, why wouldn't that? You know, and obviously it's a big event, limited field, no cuts. So if I'm hopefully, fingers crossed, I'm in, I'm in. I've been told I'll get it. I'll cruise in.

But yeah, fuck yeah, I'm going there. You've got to be excited to get back to Japan. I mean, you got that place down. You're going to be more comfortable anybody in the field. Yeah, so it'll be. And then I think it's CJ Cup in South Carolina. Obviously, that's going to suck going from Vegas to Japan, then back to the east coast.

but I don't mind. Like you say, it's part of the game, isn't it? You end any, like, shows or anything? You get through it by watching. You download a bunch of shows or podcasts or anything? Yeah, I mean, I try. Obviously, listen to your boys' podcasts. Thank you.

James English, he's a Scottish guy who's got quite a good podcast in the UK. It gets, like, ex-criminal and people like that on to sell the stories. So there's some good stories on there. But what am I watching at the moment? I need to get on the download game for these next few weeks. Okay.

A big wreck from us is the Monta Tiao documentary. You're probably not going to know who the fuck that is, but he's big. He was a superstar Notre Dame college football player, was almost won the Heisman. He was in the final three to win the Heisman. And he had this incredible national storyline. about a tragedy about how his grandma and his girlfriend died on the same day during his senior year

when Notre Dame then went undefeated and made it to the national championship game. Turns out his girlfriend never existed. She was fake. He got catfished. She was fake. Somebody in the internet was just fucking with them for three years. And it's a crazy story. And they did a two series documentary untold did it on it's on Netflix.

And it is must watch, especially for someone that isn't familiar with the story at all. It is amazing. Wild, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I'll be on that. That is super interesting for someone who has no idea what that is. Like when the news, when it originally happened, I think it was like 2012, 2012, 2013, and it was the biggest story ever.

And everybody thought that he was in on it. And then the documentary goes into all that. So yeah, that is a, that would be a good one for you to watch for sure. Yeah, I'll get on that. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah, the past times out there on the road, I get the same. You're going to try to figure out, always got to try to figure out good stuff

to get into. And I would say the planes, depending on your airline, planes have some good options these days, too. And I feel like I can go back because there's a lot of movies that, like, you feel embarrassed. You've never seen before. And they have a lot of those available on the airline options sometimes. So sometimes you can get away with it on the actual airlines. But there's no way to get around the fucking travel. I was bitching the other day about lines.

I feel like lines are just ridiculous that we just accept that lines exist. I just can't comprehend that lines are just normal. And everybody, Trent's a huge lying guy. I never met somebody that's like pro line. Trent loves lines. I just think it's a part of being a human being. I think as things get more digital and technological and we're all on our phones

and we're not paying attention to each other, you're standing in a line. I think, you know, it makes you feel human again. In my opinion. I mean, come on. What are we talking about? Who wants to feel human?

I just want to get on with my day. I don't want to stand in a fucking love. We're losing touch. Boys and girls, we're losing touch. And we got to stand in line. to their experience. To feel like we're all part of a community.

Staring at the back of somebody's fucking head in front of you. That's real, that's a real good human experience. Are you a Peeky Blinders guy? Me, yes, big time. Let's go. We've done it, completed it. Unbelievable.

You watched the final season? Yeah. What'd you, I don't know if we probably don't want to give it away, but what'd you think of the twist at the end? Yeah. It's, it's typical peaky, isn't it? I mean, personally, I think there's going to be another season,

but I don't know. I've heard there's going to be a movie. Well, there you go. I mean, something's going to happen. I mean, they can't just leave it like that. Tommy Shelby's such a badass motherfucker. He is.

Absolutely. Absolutely. I love it. Tred, did you find it hard to like understand it first? Well, yeah, because that I think that's the show that finally got me on. I watch everything with subtitles now. Outside of stand-up comedy and sitcoms,

I watch everything with subtitles. And the reason I started doing that was because of Pee-Bliners and in particular Tom Hardy's character because he is just so Alfie. He is impossible to understand. So that show kicked off my lifelong obsession now with subtitles and it makes everything so much better. Hey, so Trent, there's another like series called Taboo, T-A-B-O-O,

and the lead actor is Tom Hardy, and it's similar to Piquie Blinders. And it's incredible. I'm going to write that down right now. Taboo. Taboo. Yeah. If you think he's hard to understand in Piki, wait,

you get on that. But that is, I would say that's up there, if not better than Piki. Whoa. Yes. Peakey's great, man. It's a lot,

it's a lot shorter. I think it's like, I want to say six to eight episodes, but it's unbelievable. All right. I'm going to watch that for sure. Do you know what it's on? I think I want to say,

it's definitely on, UK Netflix, but I'm not sure if it's on the US one, but maybe if you can Google it, I'm sure you'll come up somewhere. I'll find it. All right. I'm going to watch that. It's really good. I need to get into Piki.

I tried it years ago with the girl I was dating at the time and she hated it. So I just couldn't, and then, so we just couldn't get, we weren't allowed to get through it and I never revisited it. I love a show that makes me want to smoke cigarettes. I don't smoke cigarettes, but that show just I, you watch it and you're just like, man, Mad Men was the same way. But Peaky Blinders, the way Tommy smokes. smokes that cigarette. It's like, you know what I can put into my life? Just a bunch of cigarettes

every day. That's something I should do. It's so good. Literally every time he opens his mouth or every scene it comes to him, it's just like he's lighting a cigarette and it's just like smoking his darts. He's so cool. Callum, what's the, what's the worst golf shot you've ever hit? Most golf shot ever hit. Especially in competition. Like, is there like a big one that sticks out where you just were like, wow, how did that happen? Yeah, top to three would somewhere, but I can't remember where it was.

I was on the PGA 2 this year? Might have been on Corn Ferry one year. I topped a three would in the middle of a fairway, which obviously, it happens. It does happen. But, yeah, I can't remember where it was, but I topped the three would playing professional golf. I think it was on the Corn Ferry in 2018,

but I can't remember exactly where it was but I literally stone cold top to three wood yeah that wasn't very good what happens there do you just do you just try to forget about it like you're not I actually laughed I was like I just started sniggering I was like yeah that's that's nice

that's a reminder that that can happen yeah exactly and you know it's funny it hung around in my head for a long time every time it was like three wood off the floor I was like please don't top this like you topped it before and you weren't trying to top it. So it's actually in me. It's the top one.

And it did hang around for a while. I was like, just make sure you just get this one. Just pick this one off perfect, you know? Crazy. Fuck. Funny how it hangs around for everyone. That's so true.

It's like if you get, if you get one just, just squirly fucking shit strike shot you for the next. It might be a month where you're just, anytime that same shot you're trying to. to hit you're like all right i know i can top this one so we need to bear down here and hit the middle of it uh no matter what level you're at i want to say it might have been grand mcdow or something i remember one of the great top videos on tour was at bay hill on i think it's that sixth hole but it's the super

boomerang par five where john day we tried to drive the green and made like a thousand and he just cold tops went into the water right in front of it basically it only went 10 yards the water's right there and he has to hit the same shot now, again, even closer to the water. And you're like, all right, these guys, those like we, as weekend golfers, we love that because we get to, it's like, oh, they're just like us. Who topped one off the tea at Pebble, the first hole? You remember that? Oh, it was, it was Francesco Molinari. Molynari, yeah, most, yeah.

I think you had a hybrid in his hand, or I don't know, I guess I don't remember what it was, but he topped it right off there and went maybe eight yards. I think this is a famous one as well. Was it Sun Kang? He was like leading a tournament and he has three wood into a par five. He literally tops it along the floor. Oh, God. Dude, it can happen.

How good is it? It can happen. What a game. What an insane game. We were talking on last show about how we love PGA Tour live whenever you can get into it because you can get into a full round. Whereas when you're watching the coverage,

they just kind of aggregate the best players that are hitting the best shots, you know? And you don't really see the ebbs and flows of a round. And I think that one of the biggest misconceptions is that you guys, PJ tour players, you know, are the best players in the world, just hit every shot pretty much perfectly. And they don't realize that there are stretches where the guys just not hitting it good at all. And you guys are just way better at turning those stretches into even par or one over

instead of like a disastrous, you know, 42. Yeah. I think I think that's one thing. year two is trying to improve, you know, because like you say, you only see the guys who are leading the tournaments and absolutely striping the shit out of it, you know? I would like to see more people grinding to make the cut on the coverage because some of the things that start happening then, I mean, it's good value for the, for the, for obviously fans and customers, you know. Yeah, I mean, there's times, like you say, someone's trying to grind to make a cut who has

made a cut like me in nine eight events and i'm and i'll hit one over a fence because i'm shitting myself you know that's that's what you want to see right that's good tv yeah and then cue schools i mean like you say this this week or the corn fairy guys trying to get the pga two cards ultra ultra ultra high pressure situation i mean if you could record every single place week or every shot and and pick the best ones i'm sure you'll see some crazy things in there i think what they all they need to figure out is how to set the table. How do you convey to the viewer or the casual viewer what's actually going on and what the stakes are? If you can make that very clear, I think people would be incredibly interested. Yeah, I agree. Totally agree. Yeah, because that's higher

stakes than a lot of the guys trying to win a tournament. You know, if that guy's already got million, if you already won a bunch, like, I'm not saying it's not pressure packed, it is. But when you're playing for your livelihood, for your career, for what the next 12 months of your entire, you know, chase of your dream is going to look like. It's hard to convey, as Trent just said, but man, that's shit. And the stuff that you see and the stories that you hear coming out of there. Wow. Do you hear about this story about this guy that got DQed?

You guys heard this one that the Fire Pit Collective Boys have been? Yeah, I kind of, I did some reading the last morning. Did you, you see the rules official and the tournament director went out and found all his golf balls? Wait, what? I just saw that. dude, Trent, it's this. So it's at Q school. There's a couple different stages.

The first one's, what, three rounds or something like that if you're not? Yeah, first one's three rounds. And then there's a cut to obviously advance and keep, you know, your hope of get your tour car alive. And this guy is playing. And this is all Fire Pit Collective. They did an amazing job. Monday Q.

These guys are unreal. They love chasing these kind of stories. And this might be the most panans. But anyways, this guy claims he's got this like monos. I can't remember exactly his name, but he claims he's got like 38 holes in one and like 14 of them are on par fours, which they make a great point in the in their article Monday Q does of like there's one recorded hole in one on a par four in PGA tour history. And it was when the guy in like early 2000s, when he hit somebody else's potter on the green and went in the hole.

This guy sounds like the leader of North Korea. Sure does. So anyway, so this guy's like in, you know, he's playing. and he's near the cut line, and he has one hole where he is like, hits it in the left rough, and he basically like blades his approach. He has to hit it under a tree, and there's a huge mound.

He like blades his approach, and his playing partners, he's playing with two playing partners. They estimate that he was probably 50 yards short of the green or something in the rough, but they're hitting their shots because they were closer, so they have to wait.

Him and his cat, either guy that hits it, rush up there. And as these other two guys are approaching the green, there's like this big mound, you can't see the hole. The guy just comes running back to them. It's like, it went in.

We got a two. It's like an eagle. And they're like, they're like, I mean, what? And he's like, yep, it went in. So they're like, like, what are you talking about? And then a few holes later, he hits his drive right and there's all hazard right. And they go down there and there's spotters out there. And the spotter has put his flag, a red flag at the point where the ball crossed into the hazard.

And then the spotter runs across the fairway to go help another guy who hit it. and to the left side. And when they, you know, come back, they all finally meet up at the green and they go up to the green. And the playing partners ask this guy, they're like, they see his balls on the fringe like 10, 20 feet away,

whatever it is. And like, oh, what are you putting for it? He's like, oh, Bertie. And they're like, what?

What? We saw you drive at the hedge. Yeah, we found it. It was like right next to the spotter's flag, like had put a flag down. What we found the ball was just in the rough. It had just like missed the hazard.

Hit a good shot from that putt for Bertie. Turns out this fucking. guy and there's way more to the story. Turns out this guy ends up chipping in for Bertie, legitimately, on his last hole to move the cut line and knock two other people out. So now the guy gets in on the number. And so all of this information gets kind of aggregated and brought up to rules officials. And there's more from the day before it turns out that gets brought to the rules officials. The rules officials are like, all right, what's going on? And he end up sending somebody out to where that flag was that marked the ball.

And they go on that line and find his ball in the hazard. And his claim was, oh, that's from the practice round. I marked my balls the same in a practice round. I actually hit a shot very similar in that same area on the practice round. So that just had to be from the practice round. They end up deciding to deque him. Yeah. After all this, they decue him.

The other two get in. Well, then they posted a follow-up story. last night, the columns referencing, where a bunch of people that work for, you know, whatever the group is, the rules of the group. Nebraska, I think Nebraska Golf Association. Yep. Yeah, Nebraska Golf Association. They go out on a mission because there were multiple reports from a couple days before

to three-round tournament of like pretty sketchy stuff. And they go out to all of these different incidents and they scour and they find three different golf balls in hazards and under trees and shit that are his balls that are like identical markings. he's playing a tailor-made child's a tailor-made he's playing like identical markings with the purple and they're just his balls so and the crazier part is he went on these guys podcast

like happily and just came off like people he kind of came off a little like genuine but also just like with all the facts it's clearly bullshit and like so the whole thing has been fucking nuts but he got de-cued this guy's a sociopath I don't know what else like that's Wow. I'm going to have to read up on that because that sounds kind of incredible.

And there's like there's a testimonial from his guys at like the clubs that he played at that he claims all these holes and ones are from that he like everyone that he got a hole and one on. You can't see the pin. It's like a blind shot or not like all of them. Have you ever come across anybody obviously not to that level, but on your on your rise that has been like that at all? in China a little bit well yeah I won't like in China a lot but that's just that's just their culture really it's just yeah it was tough to kind of argue

against Chinese rules officials and people who speak fluent Chinese right but it used to happen every event every week but you like to say I mean it's it's hard to argue your point in English when they're speaking in Chinese

together you know it was tough Sure. Yeah. What can you do about that? That's nuts. That's, you know, it's funny because we laugh, you know, we laugh a lot about some of the stupidity in like the archaic nature of some of the rules of like when somebody can get decued on the PGA tour for signing an incorrect scorecard. But because we look at it as like every shot's on TV. We all know what he's shot.

But what you don't realize like 99.9% of competitive golf is played where the only people out there monitoring it are the players themselves. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I mean, yeah, it's tough. I mean, but what I kind of read from that, the article from Fire Pit Stories was, I mean, it was crazy. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I was like, holy shit.

Wow. You need to read that, Trent. You need to read it. I'm going to. Yeah, you're going to love it. What do you got? What time is it there? Is it pretty late there?

It's like 3.37 the afternoon. We're not great with time zones. We're not great with time zones. show. Five hours ahead. Okay. All right. What do you got on tap for the rest of the day? Anything special? No. Just chilling really. I've practiced this morning. Being the done the gym, all the boring as well, all the stuff that you need to do. Just chilling really. Just literally chilling. Have some food and chill out. All right. Will you fly straight to Napa? Will you like reset home base in Orlando?

No, I'm flying straight to Napa. I thought about spending. some time in Orlando, but the weather's actually decent at the moment over here, so you can actually practice. So I'm just flying, yeah, I'm flying direct from here to San Francisco, which is, I mean, it's 10 hours or 11 hours, which sucks, but it's got to be done. It's got to be done. Is what it is. Well, look, we appreciate it as always, new season, new season on the horizon. We got, like Frankie said, you're one of my guys, too, that's starred on the score app. So, you know, I get fucking notifications. I'm like out to dinner with my pals or something.

And it's like, Calum Taryn is birdie 13. I'm like, oh, fuck yeah. Let's go. I love that. I absolutely love that. Hopefully, yeah. Hopefully I can keep fucking vibrating this year and plenty of birdies to come. You know what I mean?

Let's go. Yeah. It's not good when it's like, Callum's like three over through four. No, no. Wow. Whoa. We're not talking about that. We're only talking about birdies out here.

Yeah. I just, I get through, throw my phone across the room. I'm like, fuck. I'm going to watch Taboo, and I'm going to root you on, and we're just going to have a great season. Legend. Hey, and then, like you say, boys, if you ever, you need to come out and play more of these

events. I've vouched for you to these PGA2 officials, so hopefully you get a few more programs, and we can get paired together again. Awesome. We're going to rip it up again. I love it. Legends. All right, Colin.

We appreciate you, ma'am. Good luck. Bye, boys. Thank you very much for having me. Safe travels. Thank you. We'll see you on the circuit. legend thank you very much boys chase thank you

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