Fore Play - Caddie Take The Wheel

Episode Date: September 12, 2023

Are we too mentally weak to make decisions for ourselves? We discuss the internal struggles when taking a caddie, benefits of riding vs walking, the unbeatable glory of fall golf, the U.S. Ryder Cup Team’s boys trip to Rome, Frankie vs Alex Busch in Monday Night Football, and Rory’s wedge game.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butternives because he always knites it across the green.

Broads 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 2999. And he grabs 100.

He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different? It's ain't a hobby. All right, four players are by Barstool Sports. More than ever presented by Barstall Sports. It's been about a month into this thing.

Dave owns Barstle. We've talked a ton about it. I'm very distracted by the fact that Dan. So Dan kind of teased us. We got myself, Frankie, and Dan, Trent said the Barstow Classic in Philly. You only got three of those left the whole year, which is fucking nuts. Football's back, which is nuts. Rider Cup starts two weeks from Friday, which is nuts.

But Dan, so before Frankie came on, Dan was, like three rooms over in his apartment trying to talk to me and Bush, like, he was standing right next to us. So we were, like, leaning into our computer to try to hear him. And I believe what he said was something to the effect of you can't listen to every single little comment that you see. But when you see repeating trends that you might have. to and then he's in classic Dan fashion he was so giddy about this revelation or whatever it is that he before we went on was just laughing to himself telling us that he has a big announcement so i we can't really do anything else in the show until you explain yourself dan yeah i've been waiting for this moment for about four days um look i have a hat problem i have a hat problem i'm i'm not afraid to say it

you know i think as as i as i mentioned you know before we started recording you don't want to listen to every comment from the public because, you know, we live very public lives and you're going to get a lot of comments from the public's. But when you start to hear something consistent for months and months and months, perhaps it's time to take note. So I've been seeing a lot of comments that my hats suck and that my hats don't fit and I don't know how to wear a hat. And I try to deny it. I did. I tried really hard. I said, you know what? My hats look great. All these people are fucking losers. But this weekend, I was out drinking. with my wife and some other friends. And I said, Emma, I said, I got to ask you.

She said, what is it? I said, I got to ask you, do you think I have a hat problem? And she goes, I've been waiting for you to ask that. Wow. And I said, what do you mean? She goes, you have such a big head that the hats you wear just don't fit. They just don't fit. And I said, but I love these hats.

You know, we come out with all these cool hats. She said, your head just doesn't fit them. So from here on out, I will be wearing. These types of hats. This one right here. Do you see the wide brim boys? You see how it has enough room for my dome, for my noggin, the old trucker sat hile? This is the style.

This is my hat style. Allison Pilar, I'm going to be your guy for the trucker hats. But these cool hats that I've been trying to wear, they just don't fit my noggin. They just don't fit my dome. And I'm finally, it feels good. It feels good to accept that I have a hat style. And I think people are going to notice that I'm going to look a lot more professional because I'm going to wear hats. that fit my head. So I hear you, all of you have been telling me, poor guy, the comment that

really set me over was, it was, we posted an ad, the golf pride ad with the gloves, the Asher golf combination. And the guy wasn't mean. And that's what it was. He wasn't mean. He wasn't saying, you look so stupid. He goes, this poor guy just can't get a hat that fits. And that's the one that said, you know, this guy wants me to succeed. He wants me to help me. So I took that to Emma and she said, he's absolutely right and here we are so which hats like which hats can you not wear like the the the ones that are unstructured flat brims i love them i think they look amazing i will continue to promo the hell out of them because for most people with normal size heads they fit well but i'm at like a seven and five ace which is a very large head and that i guess i have like a wide forehead as well

they just they look stupid and i'm finally accepting it and i'm coming home and i found a hat that works And it feels like a big weight's been taken off my shoulders, to be honest with it. I just, I think people are still going to shit on you. No matter what I really, I really do. I think that's what's going to happen. I don't think that hat looks bad. That's the pond hockey hat from San Valley. Really cool hat.

I think it looks great. I really do. But I still think that you're going to get shit on and get affected by it. That's my, that's my guess. If I had to guess. Yeah, look, you're probably right, but I just think the definition of insanity is trying something over and over again and expecting a different result. And so I'm going to try to switch it up with the hats.

man for a guy that like is deep in the golf world with all this stuff that's going on and like you've got new series coming out and all this stuff when you said you had huge news i just didn't think it was going to be the type of hat you were wearing i'm extremely underwhelmed and i'm disappointed to be honest i'm like you know i just there's so much that i thought could have been coming out of your mouth aside was there any guesses any guesses going on in your brain dude he said he had big breaking news i'm like i don't know someone's dropping out of the Rider Cup and like, they saw JT practicing and he like can't hit a golf ball and like they've dropped him from the team. I, my, my mind was racing. Yeah. And he's like,

I can't wear this flat brim hat anymore. It's just like, come on that. Listen, in my brain, in my brain, it's bigger news on the ride. It is huge.

It's big news. It's as big as your head. But it's like it's, it's, there's just a lot that there's a lot that could have happened there. But listen, I'm happy for you. I'm a hack guy myself.

I can't wear some of those cool guy hats. It makes me look like I just got out of treatment. And so I've just had to, I've, I've learned that a long time to let there's certain hats that I can't wear. And I just move on with it. Yeah, there was a guy who told me that I looked like I had tumors on my head, which also was a little troubling.

You guys seem to be familiar with that line of commenting. So it would have been like maybe kind of sweet if you guys said something. But I feel, I feel more at home in this hat than I've felt in my, you know, 13 months at Barcelona Sports. Yeah. Well, it's one of those too. I mean, it's a huge deal in your world.

And pretty much in no one else's world, is it a big deal at all? In anyone, nobody. Yeah. But I live in my world. So. Yeah. It is your world. You're stuck with it.

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Just kind of a shit day. You know, if you're going to rank day ones and I'll Sunday, the whole deal. Tonight's a big game. So when this podcast comes out, we'll have Frankie's Jets versus hosting Bush's bills. You guys have been chirping about this for like four months. It feels like. So we asked Bush beforehand, who flew to L.A. this last weekend to go to a

Jonas Brothers concert and then flew home yesterday. So I think he made like a two-day trip to L.A., which I have no choice but to respect. It's not a quick trip. It's like going to fucking Rome for you guys. I mean, it's basically going to Rome and back. He went to California and back, and he is back. And he's geared up for the game tonight. He admitted beforehand, well, Bush, you could talk to Frankie about it.

But tonight's probably the biggest game of the year so far in football. Yeah, I mean, I said to you before, I'm nervous because I've been talking a lot of shit. So there's really, on the bill side, it's really a lose, lose because if you win, you're supposed to win, if you lose, well, what the fuck you're talking shit for? And then, I don't know that you're supposed to win. I know the line has minus two. I know the line is minus two. It's basically a pick up. The jets have an entirely new way of thinking, an entirely new brand going into this year.

They did start the year seven and three last year. And then they had injuries, Bruce Hall, who's going to be back tonight. They have guys that are just going to do. vault this team back into contention. Aaron Rogers at the helm of it all. An amazing new wide receiver squad to compliment Garrett Wilson. I'm very excited. One of the best defenses in the league.

I'm very excited for tonight. I hope that I have an event at like 530. I hope that it's over around 830. I'm sure this game won't start until like nine with all like the Monday night football stuff that goes on. It's crazy how late these late games. Like that giant game last night starting as late as it did and it being 40-0 at MetLife Stadium is one of the biggest travesties in Sunday night football history.

I mean, Dallis, Dallas Cowboys. What? Pouring rain, too. Imagine you went to that game. Pouring rain, Giants, Cowboys, you're like,

this is amazing. This is, this is the rivalry. You're just gearing up for a new season. The Giants made the playoffs last year. They snuck a win out on the road in the playoffs. Like, they're like,

they're excited. Saquan's back for a full year. Everyone's going crazy. Daniel Jones, Danny Dynes, and they just lose 40. and nothing. That number's not even real. I took my contacts out at like, that's how I, like, I show total disrespect for whatever I'm watching. If I just take my contacts out, I can no land,

I can no longer, incapable of seeing it. I can no longer watch you in high definition. Like I've, I've lost all like wanting and needing of seeing all the little details of that game. I don't want to even want to see what time it is. I don't want to see the score. I don't want to see who's the guy that's, that's even in. I don't want to see numbers on. the jerseys. I just want to see like the blobs moving around while I scroll my phone. That's the only thing I care about at that point. And that happened in like the second quarter. I just didn't give a fuck. The Giants are pathetic. That's a pathetic loss. And yeah, I mean, it's great to have football back. I love, love, love multi-screen watching on Sundays. I got the iPad on my lap.

I got two TVs up there. One was had one had a Joker on who absolutely dominates. That guy's insane. 24 majors. That's crazy. And then you have football. on you got red zone scott i mean hanson is just like that guy how does that guy have that energy every single sunday for that many hours it just blows my mind he's one of the best fucking entertainers that we have in this country it's just great to be back i love football i absolutely love sunday football it's like the greatest day to just sit there i made philly cheese steaks on the uh blackstone last i had a couple friends over i mean some sliders is great some manly shit watching football making sliders. You kidding me? How's the blackstone, you know, your operational ability going? It's real good, actually. It

definitely uses a lot of that propane, that propane gas that we were talking about with Jersey Jerry. It uses a lot of it. I feel like I'm cranking that thing, maybe too high because my tank is almost halfway gone. I've only used it like twice or three times. So, but I, I learned the seasoning. It looks good. It would approve Kyle Tim's that that blackstone grilling douchebag that we have on our team. He would approve of my top, of my blackstone top. I seasoned it. So it looks pretty good now. It's like all black and you can't see the bottom of it's got like a layer of oil on it now. I see what the whole crazes. It is satisfying when it happens. You put this oil on it and you let it burn off and basically it creates just like a layer of black oil that you can't like now you're

cooking on top of that and you're not making any of the scratches on the actual plate. You know what I mean? It's like a nice little layer. Clean. It's clean as shit. It's clean as shit. Presentation, I feel like in anything you're doing cooking related now has taken precedent almost to anything else. Or it's like on that. It's on that level.

You got to present it nicely. All right. Rider Cup. So I got the shirt on. You can still get some merchandise store at barstalsports.com. Thanks to everybody who bought stuff. But we are a little over two weeks out. I keep having to retrain my brain that it starts on a Friday because I feel like that

week, Ryder Cup week. You start to get all hyped up on Monday. You're pretty much juiced up like it's the Masters on Tuesday. You can't wait for that fucking thing to start. They don't start until Friday. So you got to really calm, stay patient. But the United States team was there this last weekend. They did a quick weekend trip to Rome, 36 holes. Shout to Jim Furek, who at the dinner was rocking the 1999. Brookline Rider Cup shirt. Love that move. And then we had three guys from the team, Speath, Cantlay, Xander, did not make the trip. But everybody else was on the trip. Brooks was there with his long hair. It's just nice to see the U.S. squad out in Rome getting their first look at Marco Simone.

Nobody has played it before, I believe. Not a single person on the team had played it before, whereas the Euros, most of the guys, or at least a good amount of the guys have played it because of the Europeans tour stop or they made trips. I saw Rory was there today with his backwards hat on hitting shots after an absolute meltdown yesterday, where he just couldn't hit a wedge and save his life. But yeah, U.S. team at Rome, in Rome, I guess, got me all excited. It looked like a really fun, like buddies trip, to be honest with you. They were at like some sick fucking restaurant in Rome on like Saturday,

I post that picture. I can't even imagine you get all these young, rich guys that are all pretty good friends. And they just play golf and they've still got two and a half weeks out. So they're probably in a pretty chill, like stress-free mindset. And they're in fucking Rome, drinking wine. All you got to do is probably take their PJ back the next day. That must have just been as delightful of the time as you can have on Saturday night in Rome with the fellas. So very jealous of that trip.

And they had Alabama, Texas on that Saturday, which was Scotty Schaeffler versus Justin Thomas. which, I mean, you add that in the mix where everyone's watching the biggest game of the night. You're in Rome. I'm not even sure what the time difference was there. I'm sure it was like right before dinner there or something or maybe was it late. I think it was late because the game was at seven. So it would have started at like midnight. Yeah.

So those guys were up real late watching that game. So maybe a couple drinks, maybe a couple of vinos in the boys watching that game. I mean, I would have paid a lot of money to be in that room to watch Justin Thomas see that loss because that's just a devastating loss for Alabama. Texas hookum baby I actually am on the Texas train this year I bet them pregame there that was a great just betting Texas just money line to beat Alabama in Alabama was a great feeling and then they show up and it's just like that that's an amazing game but yeah um the rider cup team that that was good juice I like to see that that's that like locker room stuff that you want to see the boys are having fun Brooks is wearing that hat with his hair coming out like a hockey guy the hats are horrific by the way

I mean they just can't figure out they look like they're from 1995 Mario cart or something just the color brims and it's like what are we doing here it looks like a little league baseball all-star hat am i right dan that it's usually the captain's wife that picks the outfits yeah i think the captain's wife has some sort of role definitely in the gifts that they give the players but i mean i don't want to talk bad at my other brand but polo ralph lorenz been at the wheel for a little bit uh and they're just not cutting it and i actually saw a tweet that was my golf spy which is like um golf reviews and they said i'm just going to go ahead and say it barstool sports made better right of Cup merch than

100% It's not even close I think if the boys We're wearing the sweater That I'm wearing right now This unreal sweater that we have With the little Like people would comment like wow

I need those So huge shout out to our merch team Because we have I'm gonna look I'm gonna be wearing obviously All Barstool You know rider cup stuff Over there in Italy

I'm gonna look way better Than the team Especially with my new hat It's a bit of a I feel like Polo Ralph Lauren Has really been a very rare brand that has been on the wrong side of golf shifting.

And like, yeah, right? Like they just, 10 years ago, the polo Ralph Lauren golf brand was in. Like, they were nailing it. That was kind of what you wanted to be in. You couldn't miss. If you showed up playing a nice country club around where you're, you know, walking on eggshells, you don't, you know,

one of those places you don't believe you're supposed to be at, like dance club. And you show up and you got like a nice polo Ralph Lauren outfit on. You're good, man. You're safe. You look good. Classy, the whole deal. And they've just gotten run over, I feel like. they just kind of missed it.

They haven't really shifted or if they have shifted, it just doesn't, they just don't nail it. They don't nail it. It doesn't look great. It doesn't look right. It kind of sticks out at this point. Whereas all the other brands,

Peter Malar, who we work with the most, but unreal, all those, like they've just shifted and evolved and it's fucking worked with the hoodies and the crew necks and understanding the trends and whatever.

And so you're right. It's been years and years and years, though, it feels like that the Ryder Cup team gets shit on for their outfits almost every single year. This year is going to be another one. That stuff,

looks. I mean, what you're wearing, I was wearing that this weekend. It was chilly at night back home in St. Louis, which is such a delight. We had a nice chilly in Wisconsin, too. We're out there putting and just threw that crew neck on and you're just popping, man, that clean Rider Cup trophy look. And then the little stripes that our crew threw on that, they just fucking nailed it. So, yeah, our gear is way better than their gear, which is actually kind of a shame. It's kind of a shame. Most of the time, most of the, it is a shame. I feel bad for the guys. Most of the time with those outfits, you know, I feel like you watch a Rider Cup from like 1997 and you're like, what the hell were they thinking with those outfits?

These ones are so bad where in real time you're thinking, wow, we're going to look back on these in 10 years and think, what the hell were they thinking with those outfits? So when it's so bad that you realize in the moment that we're going to look back on this in 15 years and think that this look terrible, it's usually not a good sign. Speaking of bad, you know, teen gear and not wearing hats that fit, remember Tiger at the 2019 President's Cup with his hat when he just couldn't figure his hat out in Melbourne? Did he remember that? Did he ditch it?

I don't know. 2019, President's Cup hat, Tiger. Dude, it was like, it would like sit on the top of his head. Oh,

yeah, I do remember that. Yeah, he like, Oh, they had the one with the big front. Yeah. And it just wasn't even close to the point

where I think he had like a, it was like a big wrinkle in the back of the hat because it just wouldn't, it wasn't sitting anywhere close. So yeah, I mean, the team gear, it feels like again,

for, for as long as I can remember, it's been pretty, fucking shitty. And, you know, if we're going to shit on the U.S. one, the European team, I don't feel like as much better. If you go on their gear, kind of stinks too. Well, their color scheme is, looks like it's something out of a cartoon, the blue and the yellow. It, you know, it's just not really, it's not really evoking the UK. It's not really evoking, you know, Spain or Norway, or anywhere where these guys are from, it just feels like kind of

random colors that they put together. Yeah. What do we think about the, uh, J.T. He was getting roasted last week for the pool noodles post that he put on Instagram. You know, I get that it was a little bit easy to jump on and whatnot. And they're saying basically team Europe was celebrating when they saw that. But I kind of like that you got your guy grinding out there and just trying to find something with the fucking pool noodles. I kind of enjoyed that, I feel like. The pool noodles seemed to be like a little bit much. It's just a bit of a like a George Gankis aesthetic where it's like, whoa, is this guy like on a, you know, on a driving range somewhere or is he one of best players in the world?

But I saw that he, I think he might have told dad to kind of sit down a little bit from what gathering. I saw Todd Lewis had a report where he told Mike Thomas, like, I want to own my swing. So I think JT, I don't think that Mike Thomas was with him at the Wyndham, which if you've followed golf for a long time, Mike Thomas is everywhere. I mean, he's always with JT, flying in the jet, right behind him, taking videos, practice swings. So, you know, JT's 30 now. I don't know if it's kind of a feeling where he's like, all right, things aren't working and I want to try something different. I don't know if he wants to become a little bit more independent, but it seems like he's taking quote unquote ownership of his swing,

which is always kind of a funny term because they say that all the time. I want to own my swing. It's like, yeah, I want to own my swing too. Doesn't everyone want to own their swing? But it looks like he's made a move or at least a half move since all these struggles. There was a little bit of controversy around this. I saw. Todd Lewis was like defending his story I saw on Twitter. And I think like JT and his dad or one of the other had both kind of jumped out and been like,

you know, no, that's not the case. We're obviously working together, but it feels like a little bit of a tiger influence, right? Like that was Tiger's kind of big thing when he came back in 2018 when he made that big comeback was that he didn't really have a swing coach for the first time, which every other time, they kind of had these eras of Tiger Woods. It was like when he first came out and Butch, and then when he dropped Butch and he went with Hank Haney, and then he had Sean Foley, and then he had Como for a while. It was like he had these eras almost, shout out to T. Swizzle, these eras of like his swing coaches.

and then when he came back and tell Zayt, he was like, no, I'm pretty much just like, I got it. I'm, you know, going to figure out my swing on my own. And so, you know,

J.T. Tiger, the fact that they're that tight could be a little bit of an influence. But I don't think you'll ever get to the point where you don't see JT's dad all over the place. I mean, they have that kind of related.

It's not like it's the Xander with his dad relationship, which feels a little bit weird and strained. I feel like J.T. and his pops are about as tight as you get. Is that right, yeah, they're definitely tight.

You know, he travels with them everywhere. It's almost like, you know how we, when we're struggling or we want to train something in golf, we've got like one swing change that we think, all right, this is, this is what it's going to be. I feel like the professional version of that is like changing up your coach situation. Remember Rory McElroy went to Pete Cowen for like a day when he was struggling really badly and then he went on by himself.

And I think whenever you got a guy working with a new swing coach, it's sort of like a, it's a change of scenery. It's like, you're telling yourself that you're starting a new chapter because you're like, oh, well, yeah, I struggle for the last three months. but that was before I took ownership of my swing, whatever that means. I remember what the Rory was interesting, Frankie, when we were at Butch Harmon's place, and he was telling us that Rory had, like, notoriously swung by

and all the headlines were sort of like, Butch Harman is, like, overseeing a little bit of Bucch of Roy McRoy's swing. And Bucch was like, yeah, he just stopped in when he was basically in Vegas or stopped it through Vegas and just paid the rate, which is whatever the hell it was, like X amount hourly rate, and just had Bouch Harmon look at his swing for like an hour or two, which is, that's like such a weird concept for us to things. about but at that point rory's coach it was like around covid rory's coach you know lifelong coach was

still back in kind of europe i couldn't get over here so he just went by and had much harman look at his swing which on a pretty normal level was like oh yeah of course like why wouldn't you just do that people like us do that all the time why wouldn't a professional golfer do that uh speaking of rory kind of a shocking thing in the final round you got to a point where he was tied for the lead with a bunch of other names it was kind of an unbelievable leaderboard and then i believe he hit two edges into the water from the middle of the fairway i didn't see any of it i was just kind of reading reading uh recaps yeah two wedges into the water from the middle of the fairway both were like one of them was was short left and one of them was short right and the announcers were just

brutal but like in a good way but i feel like you know a lot of times you know since johnny miller retired we've kind of been wanting someone to just go in on guy this guy was like his wedge game is a mess the feet are closed the shoulders are open he's trying to to hit it online he's got no idea where it's going the guy was just hammering hammering into him but yeah i think he got to 13 under through six holes he was tied for the lead and it was a decent leaderboard but no one you know none of the huge Shane lowry was in was in the mix min moo lee was kind of chasing but besides that it was a bunch of european base guys and you just got the sense that they were all shitting their pants because rory was making a run and you got you know if he could post 14 under

or 1,500. I think he shot 5 over for his last like 12 or 13 holes. So big time collapse. The wedge game remains a big time problem. It was hard to, it's just, it's, it's distressing when you see a guy who makes the part of golf that should be hard, which is hitting at 350 yards down the fairway, look freaking automatic. And then you put like a little 90 yard wedge in his hand and he hits it legitimately in the piss. So yeah, it was tough. As if golf wasn't already hard enough that there is this incredible. dichotomy in golf on which the characteristics of being able to drive the golf ball incredibly well and hit long clubs incredibly well and long irons incredibly well are the

exact opposite of the key characteristics of hitting wedges and short shots really close and it's why for the most part you see guys that like guys that are shorter hitters that make it out on tour are like phenomenal wedge players and like the other way around where a lot of the guys that are complete bombers are not great wedge players. And when you do get somebody that can kind of do both, or when DJ, for example, which Bush was telling us about as well, made that, you know, concerted, concerted effort to dial in his wedges. He was already great with the driver. He's been great with the driver forever. That, like, that is so rare in golf to be really good at both because they're too tight.

Like, if you're a little bit, if you're a little bit shallower, a little bit more of like a sweeper, if you're hitting up on your driver, like Rory hits up, what, five degrees or something on his driver, then, like, when you need to hit down on a wedge, you control. it and flight it, whatnot. That's a completely different motion. And it's like, we're all working, just trying to keep the fucking golf ball in play and not make fools of ourselves out there the entire time. And now you've got these guys that like, like you said, Rory could do the hardest thing in the world. Dude, you can hit it like 340 yards, pretty much dead straight, draw it, it, cut it, do whatever the hell he wants. That's impossible to do. It's three and a half football fields hitting it wherever he wants. And then it's like from 90 yards, he's relatively horrific at this point in a lot of instances. And I remember at the memorial, he was that way where it's like, dude, that was

fucking May. That was what, four or five months ago. And it's like, how is this guy that good? But games impossible. So I mean, I get it on that level. But, but yeah, it'll be very interesting to note during the Ryder Cup, if that's an issue for him at all. Yeah, it was so great watching Minowley play golf. We really got to get that guy involved. We were supposed to do a sagic with him. We talked about this when we had him on the show probably a month ago or so. Just one of those guys who just kind of has the it factor. He does this thing where he like kind of talks shit to his caddy, which I love. He had like a like a 15 footer for par after hitting like a really bad t-shot and he

had this kind of remarkable short game shot. And then as the put was like three feet out, he starts walking it in. And he looks at this, he looks at this caddy, not with a look of like, let's go with a look of like, fuck you. I told you I was going to make that shit. Like, and I love that. He has, he has that fire. So I think he took six weeks off, came back, finished.

I think in the top 10. And Min Wu Lee has got to be one of our guys. He just has to be. We need him to get residents in the United States. We need to go out there and shoot and shoot videos with him because I think he's going to absolutely pop. Yeah, he's got some juice. He's definitely got some juice.

I feel like we've seen that, you know, that kind of relationship a little bit, that creating that fire with like, Speeth did that with Greller when he won the Open. When he was like, go get that. He's kind of like, you know, you're creating a little bit of firing yourself up through your caddy. I feel like Tiger.

There was a famous story doing the 2008 U.S. Open with Tiger won. Or Steve basically. Yeah. Yeah, Steve, he was basically like, do we, we need to get out of here. Like, you're going to die. Your legs are going to fall off. And Tiger was like, fuck you, I'm going to win this tournament.

So I kind of like when they just turn on their caddy a little bit and use that as fuel. But yeah, I mean, he's got some juice for sure. Speaking of Speeth, so I think he's having his second baby. That's the reason why he's not, he wasn't going to Rome. Do we think that speed is, like, it just kind of dawned on me that I think he might have like seven children. I think he might go like the Webb Simpson route of like, I think there might be like an army of young Speeth children. running around. Big family guy, right? He's got, you know, I feel, I could see. I could just see him, I could just see him having like at least five children. He's a number two came pretty quick after

number one. Golf, uh, I'll say golf media goes nuts when golfers have kids. They fucking love. Or get engaged. Congrats, congrats to Matt Fitzpatrick who got engaged. But yeah, those, those, uh, those posts always do like super, super well. I notice golf digest will always just take the photo of the engagement and then just post it on their own and say congratulations. which is always an interesting move. You're basically just saying please like this post. You know, not really moving the story along a little bit. Don't we do that?

Does four play pod do that? Do we do that? Do we congratulate Mathis Patrick? I think we did it. I think we congratulated Matt Fitzpatrick. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's not a, that's not a shot at a, you know, social rob, but it's a little bit of a shot at social social rob, just maybe a tiny one.

But yeah, anytime, anytime these guys do real world stuff, it's, you know, I remember when JT in full swing went to CVS and couldn't figure out the checkout machine. Everyone thought that was like the greatest thing of all time when he was like, you got to be shitting me. So I guess it's code, you know, People Magazine, Us Magazine. They've had a stars that are just like us section for as long as they've been in existence. There seems to be a fascination with people that we look up to and watch doing things that are relatively normal. Is there a better place to go with your buddies for a golf trip than Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.

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enter right now bars to a world am dot com where you guys feel like you stand right now on riding in golf carts when you play golf versus walking i feel like it became when i was when i was a little younger in my 20s walking was fantastic it didn't really matter you got young energy you're fine you're healthy whatever. I feel like last week our Wisconsin trip walking on a golf course, even if you have a caddy, even if you got a push cart, I feel like it really became a front and center issue that I never really noticed before. To me, it just depends on what you're trying to accomplish out there. Like if you're out there by yourself and you're trying to shoot your career low and you're like just having a day, you have no time constraints, you're not, you're not worrying about what you're

doing after and you just are solely focused on that round of golf. I think walking is great. I think I enjoy it a lot. I think it makes me play better. I think that I focus more. I think all the things that Dr. Brett McCabe teaches me, I can actually step up and do a process as opposed to like getting out of the cart, throwing your glove on, talking to the guy in the cart, and then you're already over the ball. It kind of takes like a lot to go through that process I've noticed. And even in these fixing Frankie episodes, he'll like, we'll be in a cart and he'll be like, why are you not like doing that process. I'm like, I don't know. We're talking about like the Yankee game tonight. Like we're like, I'm not really paying attention to any of this. He's like, that's why the

process is there so that you can step away from that for a second. But my point to that would be like, when I'm trying to accomplish something for golf, which I guess should be every single time. But I like to walk. If I'm just out there to like try a new golf course or play with my buddies or we have a match and we're playing match play and I have a partner out there, fucking give me that cart 100 times out of 100. It's just way too much of a grind for the day. You're taking 17,000 steps for no reason. You're still getting your exercise in the cart. You're still walking around. You're still in nature. You're still playing the game. It's just, it moves the game along. You're not,

you don't feel like you're looking over your shoulder for the people behind you. You don't feel like you have to hit that perfect shot because you're not going to have to walk across a fairway, across another fairway, because you blocked one left or blocked one right. To me, it's just like the game was built to have a golf cart out there. The American version of the game was built to have a golf cart out there just move it along let's have a quick day we don't need a six hour round out there everyone walking around i think that wisconsin was particularly tough because of the hills and the sandy soil um and also you know fireball makes it a little bit more difficult it's hot to walk to your ball so really it just takes people out of the game too like my dad can't

go to sand valley he's not walking the golf course it's just like why why can't he go experience what we experience with the lodging and the lakes and and lido like you just can't he can't even he wouldn't even think about it. Trent's dad, too. Like, they both were like, we're not doing that dad's trip unless there's golf carts from the T-box to the green. And that's, I would say a lot of the people that play this game wouldn't, wouldn't agree to it to go walking for five straight days. It's nuts. I guess walking's got to be like way below, it's probably what, below 25% of rounds, 30, I mean, I don't really know. But for me, it's like a lot of it's the time of day. If it's in the morning, I like a good walk in the morning,

because I feel like I've accomplished something by the afternoon and you still have enough energy if you finish up your round at like one or two o'clock. If I've already been walking around all day and I've been waiting, you know, to play golf because anytime you play in the afternoon, the morning's kind of like a half morning because you're just looking forward to that tea time. I, uh, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of walking in the afternoon. I just feel like I'm trying to get after it. Like I'm trying to, like you said, I'm trying to just move quickly,

especially if there's no one in front flying around in two and a half, three hours in the afternoon. There's nothing better. but I will stand by like a do sweeping walk, especially if you have a good group and you're playing and there's good mojo, might have a caddy out there who's in good spirits. It's hard to beat that, but I am sensitive to the people who can't do it because my dad's the same way. I'll say I,

you know, we did like whatever, four straight days of just the Wisconsin thing, which was amazing. We talked a ton about it on the shows. We had a great time. We walked the whole time, exhausted.

And I flew home to St. Louis, see my family and friends for a couple days and all my buddies want to do theirs play golf. It's a totally different. It's like a, it's like you're, doing a completely different activity when you just sit your ass in a fucking golf cart from

the minute you walk in you walk through the through the parking lot as soon as you get on sight you throw your golf bag on the back of the cart you strap that thing in and you just sit your ass on a comfortable seat with music playing your phone's charging is a completely different experience and if it weren't for that if we were going to walk again like this last weekend I wouldn't have been able to touch a club I wouldn't have been able to have any interest in play and no no no just get me off let me watch football whatever but you just get to just sit your ass in a cart. It's fucking delightful.

It's way more delightful than I would have thought. I used to have kind of this romanticism around it and like walk in and it's good for you. And there's times we all, you know, you guys, you guys explain that great. There's times. But boy, oh boy, just sit in your ass down in a fucking golf cart for four hours, riding around, driving right up to your partner's ball, driving right up to your ball, hopping out for four seconds, swinging away. You're definitely not as locked in.

Absolutely. I think most people agree. like you don't you don't walk and feel and kind of arrive at what the right shot is in the same way that you do when you're walking but that's not the goal is that every time to just go shoot the lowest score pot right it's like sometimes you're just out there like let's just swing away have a good little match like if i hit a shit one of my partner hits a good one i'm just gonna sit in this cart and watch because i'm not gonna you know and we're gonna hang out and so like it is just carts carts are the stock and carts for me right now are fucking rising fast i mean it's a insane swing It's an insane activity to go out and walk and do. Like you're hitting this, it's the Robin Williams joke. You're hitting this white ball all over this field. And you're just going to go walk there, hit it again and go find it. Like it's chaos.

The fact that we have the invention to just be on wheels and a motorized golf cart to just take you to that spot. And you're lucky enough to even find this golf ball. And then you have to hit it again. You're going to move throughout this seven mile long trail of whatever it ends up being. It's fucking chaos. So yeah, I'm absolutely picking cart over walking. I'm just trying to have fun. As soon as there are carts that, and there might already be,

that function basically as an iPad where I can pull up Red Zone on the screen, that's when it will really. I'm sure some clubs have it. There's got to be, right? Yeah. You can already play music through carts at some places. If there's a Sunday where there's Red Zone going on and I can have Scott Hansen talking to me through the golf cart, you know, saying,

we're going to go to Miami and we're going to go to Cleveland while I'm playing. playing golf, that's going to be really when it switches to cards for me. I will say we've done three side gigs now. It filmed with Saw, Kagan Bradley, and Shane Lowry. And every, all three of them, while walking up the first hole, I've been like, I can't believe I'm fucking walking during an off week. Like, this is insane that you have me walking during an off week. So I think, I think the pros because they do it so much.

And we talked, you know, we said how our feet were sore and how without the G4 shoes, we would have been in complete shambles. You know, it's four rounds in row, which is what you guys did. I only played three. but four rounds in a row of walking is taxing on the body. And so I can 100% understand why when these guys get home and they have the opportunity to take a cart, they are, they're not even thinking about potentially walking a golf course. Dude, when we did our Friday rounds with Joey La Cava last summer and we were just playing every single Friday with Joey, Trent and I. I'm a couple of my buddies here in New York.

We meet Joey and his crew and we would just play every single Friday, these big matches. The thought of even looking for a golf ball or walking was like insane to Joey. that you know it's like that's his job he's like if i hit one of the fescue he's like we're not like just drop rate like we're not looking for that like if you have me looking through this fescue you're insane right now and i'd be like joe like you don't really look for balls he's like no dude like that's crazy that you guys go out here for searching for golf balls like i refuse like remember there was a hole where i the two of us were on the left side searching for for balls in the fescue i don't want to give anything away but i think you guys remember that erin hell

ended up yeah and both people ended up dropping and you're you're covering like 70 yards you have no clue where it is you and and you're just looking you're literally looking for a little round ball on a haystack and you're just walking back and forth the whole time i think it was uh it was either joel or max told me one time that like in pro am rounds they just tell everybody on the first tee okay great to be here i'm going to help you guys out to be a really good time the only thing i won't do is i just won't look for golf balls there's no and if you if you think about it like for those guys they never have to look for golf balls ever. So they're like they just have learned through these programs that that's the worst experience on the fucking planet.

Looking for golf balls. Fuck it sucks. You're trudging around. Like you said, Dan, it's, it could be in like a, in a hundred yard, 100 square yard area. And it's thick grass. We're out there looking for it like fucking crazy people. But in your mind, when that's your golf ball, you're like, this is a, this is a two-stroke difference for me. Like, if I find this golf ball and hack it out, then I could still maybe make par.

I'm going to make bogey it worse, but like if I don't, I'm going to go back to the tier. I'm dropping hitting four. This is going to ruin my day. And everyone else in the group is like, I can't believe I'm walking around this fucking long grass looking for this guy's ball. So I don't look like a dickhead, but it's like looking for golf balls is for the birds. And then if your buddy's not looking for it, you're like, he's an asshole. You want to you like get mad at him for not looking at your ball.

It's also it's so much easier for these guys to walk when they hit it straight, number one. So they're typically walking like where you're supposed to walk. You'll notice that there's usually like a mode area on the way to the fairway. these guys are really good at golf so they're walking there and then what you said they don't have to look so if they hit one offline there's got a little freaking flag in the ground where they just go find the flag and then go hit another one so it's much more point eight to point B for the pros I have something to say and we have a lot of caddies that listen to this show and I feel like it could resonate with a lot of people but and I'm trying to like go about this the right way and I don't know how to really explain it without sounding like a fucking dick or douchebag because you are getting a caddy you're getting a service and it's an incredible experience not many people get to have this and And I was a caddy for years, Garden City Men's Club. I was at Cherry Valley. I was at Rockville Links. I experienced what it's like to carry bags for people and like where you're supposed

to interject and where you're supposed to really give you our input. And it's a weird world you have to live in as the player, I feel like you have a caddy. You're out of place. You know, we were in Wisconsin. We had a bunch of caddies. We had amazing caddies. We had great experiences. I played pretty well.

and I feel like I left there feeling pretty good about my game. So I feel like all these caddies all kind of helped me with my experience there at San Valley at Aaron Hills. But there's a couple situations that I found myself in while playing on four play videos. And the bigger we get, the more exclusive places we play in. And like it's your first time playing a new golf course. And we play a lot of golf. So I feel like I know my game now.

And I feel like I'm getting kind of confident in it. I know how far I hit irons. I know how far I can hit my driver, when I can hit my driver. and sometimes I've found myself just listening to the caddy where he's like, this is the club that you have to hit here. And I'll just be like, okay. And I just do it. And then I'm not really happy with the result.

And I'm not really happy with the decision. And I'm just internally thinking about it. It's similar to like being in a, in a barbershop. And like you know that the barber is not doing a great job. And you're just sitting there quiet instead of just like saying something because you just feel like an asshole being like, hey, I actually don't like that haircut. Imagine saying that. No, no one does that. So this has happened to me recently where I'm playing the best golf I've played in my life. I know that. It's documented. I started this, this show hitting in the high 90s, mid 90s.

We did videos at Beth Page, like early on when I've joined with you guys. And like if I, if I shot like a 95 or if I broke 90, it was like a huge moment. And now I'm playing like, I'm shooting 75s, 80s at really good golf courses. I'm like, I'm knowing, I know I can go out there and play my game. And then I go to a place and the guy's like, this is what you have to do today. This is the club you have to hit. Pulling like, being like, no, no, I'm telling you like, I know this course, you have to hit this club. And I just listen. And it's like, it's not an issue that's like, I feel like, I don't know that everyone deals with this. Maybe it's just a me problem. I don't know if you guys have ever had this situation. But it's like at some point when you're

on someone's bag, you have to let that person play the game of golf. So like, and I, it's like, it's happened to me multiple times where like they just take over my game. And it makes me like almost sometimes not want a caddy. Does that, and I know that sounds horrific. And I don't want to like shit on the entire fucking job that is caddying. But no, I look. Yeah. I, I, uh, I, uh, I, uh, I 100% agree with you because.

And really it's our own fault, right? Like it's like it's what we do is you let you just let the caddy take the wheel because of the situation. Like you say, you don't want to come off like an asshole. And next thing you know, you're a couple holes in and they've they've sort of established that like, okay, because most people that they golf for, it's a corporate outing or whatever, they really do need to like take over. They need to be like, like even for Trent. I feel like for Trent a lot. Trent's like, dude, I need my caddy to just tell me everything.

Tell me where to hit it, what club. And he loves that. And there's some people that love that. Everybody's a little bit different. But, you know, I find that like part of the joy of the experience of playing the game of golf is thinking your way through it, right? Like thinking your way through how you're going to get this ball into a certain spot, thinking your way through which club you should hit. Is it eight miles an hour into the wind and it's a little bit uphill? So is that like a club or a club and a half.

Like that's part of the beauty of the game is like strategizing. It's the same reason that when you play Madden or when you play FIFA or when you play two, PJ Tour 2K, like if you just hit the button and everything was set up for you and then you, the button again and everything's set up for you hit the button again that game would fucking suck like a big part of the why the game is so fun is strategizing is thinking your way through it it's a big part of the reason like if you just put the players in in fantasy football and you just watched on sunday that wouldn't be as fun as like strategizing and trying to think about trades and trying to think about who you should start who you shouldn't and you're looking at weather forecast and like and then you take that whole element out of the game of golf for yourself and it really kind of like

rips part of the overall immersive like experience of trying to put around together it takes it out of your hands and puts it in a stranger's hands which is like fucking crazy you're going to go you're going to fly somewhere you're going to go to this unbelievable golf course you're just going to put an enormous percentage of like your performance that day into a total stranger's hands is for a lot of people I agree with you I think it's fucking crazy to do and it's hard to like say that without being you know whatever but but it's like that is part of the joy of the game I think is thinking your way through your own game, you know your own game. And when you just let go of that and give it to someone else and then realize that that's happening,

it can be sort of like a, like, what am I doing here? Like, I need to, I need to regain control of the situation here. Yeah. And I think it's a really fine line of what the caddy has to do. And that's what I had to deal with when I was a caddy. It's like, does this person want the information or do they not? And it's like, it's that dance that you have to play. And you can, you can kind of tell on the first hole where like, do you want reads on the

green or do you not and I just feel like at the sometimes and I'm such a pussy that I can't just have a conversation with another person and just like be honest with them and be like hey I'm just going to make these decisions today let's have a great time we're going to have some drinks we're going to have a great time out here we're fucking living the dream we're playing golf on a Tuesday out here at a great golf resort let's just have a good time instead I'm like internalizing all these issues this is all on me by the way this is not on the cat this is me just like legitimately admitting that I am too much of a pussy to speak and I'd rather get my golf experience ruined than just have a conversation with another human

being and be like, hey, man, like that, like that last situation on that last hole where I wanted a hybrid and I end up hitting a nine iron because you said that was the right decision. I really hated that, but I'm not going to tell you that. So I'm going to sit and internalize all this. Yeah, just let it fester. Just let it fester and then ruin the rest of my hole and then like hope that I can let it go. And just like, it should have been a birdie. It ends up being a triple bogey and like we're out here.

It's just fucking, it's really, it's a lot to handle. And I just need to learn how to have that conversation. So I hope by me bringing this up, I'll get some messages from caddies being like, just fucking talk to us. Like have a conversation. I need to break that barrier and just be like a, I need to be lurch. I need to be like a person that just speaks to people when they don't want to be spoken to.

Yeah. I think there's a middle ground and I think it's a very rewarding middle ground because like, I've had experiences where guys like the, the caddy should never say 100%, which sometimes they they say sometimes which bothers me like i'll be 20 yards short of a green and he's like you're putting this 100% and pull out the putter because then at that point you're setting yourself up for a confrontation because then i'll be like no i'm going to chip it and then there's a fuck ton of pressure on that chip because if i hit that chip bad he's i know he's going to turn around he's going to be like hey maybe you should put that you should put that but yeah i think you just need to

have some faith in these caddies um interpersonal skills that you can say to them no like i like nine iron here and i think they'll actually respect you more as or i like hybrid here And I think they'll respect you more as a player because when you do reach that area with the caddy where it's been three or four holes, they kind of know your game and they know the golf course and you don't know it. And you guys are working as a team. It is awesome. It's great. If you feel like a professional golfer for a day, you know, you're talking through shots. You're talking through start lines.

It's really great. So I think you just need to. And I will be there. We play a decent amount of golf together. I will be there for you. We'll be walking up the third hole and I'm going to see you just so mad that you didn't hit six iron when you, you know, the caddy wanted to. you to hit five iron, but you really should hit six. There was a situation in which I was striping my drives right down the middle. We're on a par five. And I couldn't get there. I couldn't get there in two.

And I knew that. But I knew that if I ripped this hybrid up at this green, that the worst case scenario is that it's in this little chipping area to the right of the green or it's in a green side bunker, which I know my game right now. I can get out of no problem. I can just get it onto the green. We're putting for birdie. But instead, we like, because this course, is difficult and because probably the average like player that plays there like doesn't like to take on that type of um you know those those those areas for your second shot the right play was to hit a nine iron i hit this drive like 310 yards right down the middle now i hit a nine iron for my second shot and i pleaded i begged to hit the hybrid and the bag was essentially taken away from me and was like no it's nine iron why would we ever bring that stuff into play and i'm like okay and i just fucking i'm standing over this ball being like what the fuck am i doing right now you're now and then I like bladed an ironiner into the festus because I'm like freaking out I'm like dude I don't even know if this is the right club that's just bad caddying that's just bad caddying if you watch on tour if you watch on tour they'll be like what do you think here and then the guy's like i like hybrid

then it'll be like great I love it this guy was basically telling you that it wasn't an option it's just it was a bad it was a one off bad situation we ended up having a great time I played a great round had a at a fantastic time came in hot like we were just like we were rolling towards the end. But yeah, it's just something that I dealt with. And I've, I never have been on that. So I didn't grow up playing with caddies. I was a caddy. So I always feel like I have that different side of it of being like there's a certain way to do it. Like I didn't, I feel like if you like are on the side of every single time, it's like, don't talk to me. Like shut up. Like just give me the club. Like I could see how like I don't ever want to become that person. I always want to be the person that

I can have a conversation with the guy. And I'm not doing it right now. Like this is my issue. I'm not, I'm not being the person that I wanted to have when I was on the bag. Like I would I'm not being that type of person where I'm like being. I want to be verbal. I want to I want to be honest. And I'm like I'm letting these caddies just fucking dominate me essentially with what they want me to do. I'm just a fucking robot out there.

Have a conversation. It is, it is, uh, it's always shitty too because if you make a call that you know like the caddy was going to make a different call, then there's all this pressure. on you to hit the shot. And then when you hit a bad one, you can sense that the caddy's like, I know it. But in your head, you're like, no, it's not, I hit bad ones all the time. Right. Yeah. And that wasn't like that had nothing to do with the choice. So that's just I'm not that good, but that was the right choice. Even though it didn't work out. And like, it's like, that was the right choice for me in this scenario because I play my own game all the time. And then you

get these feelings like around the greens, a great example where, you know, the caddy will want you to put a lot. And it's like, no, I feel like I'm really going to chip this. And they're like, okay you know they don't give you a ton of comments in it then they're like they put the putter away and they give you the wedge and then you're standing over being like I think he wants me to hit a bad one here so that he could be right and then you're then your then your pressure's ramped way up and like the rare occasion that you do hit a good one you know they kind of look at you like okay all right you know but like when you hit that shit one you can tell that you're like I know that he knows that he was right but like actually that was overall a million times in that scenario I was

right so then you're just in this weird fucking mindset the whole time and you're like we're supposed to just be out here having a great time i think you should show up to the golf course frankie with like a like an index card and you should i think as you're walking up the first hole you should say hello my name is frank bro and i have experience as a caddy and i want to say this i respect you and i respect what you do probably more than 95% of people out here that being said i do not ever want to feel like i the agency is being taken away from me golf occupies a very special place in my life and I want to work through this as a team. So if you have strong opinions, please deliver them with a little bit of softness

and we can work together through this. I think you need to get out there and get that message out there early. So they understand. I think you'll be surprised. I think most of them will react positively. I think so as well. And everyone that's listening to this, you guys know how much of a psycho I am. Like I live and die with my sports teams.

I have a very eccentric brain. I'm all over the place. I'm out of control. That's why I went to a golf psychiatrist. Like I am living and dying with these big all-time golf. golf resort rounds. You're going to these places like Sand Valley, Lido, Aaron Hills. You want to have a great day. I get in my own head. And I let the caddy know that right off the bat. Like he can tell my excitement that I'm fiery. I'm cursing at myself. I'm making him laugh. He's making me

fucking cry. Like we're we're having a fucking day out there. And I just feel like, yeah, I, I just don't verbalize enough what I actually want. I like kind of, I don't know. I just kind of like, I don't fully become me at some point. Like in the beginning I am. And then I just, I just go with the flow. I just kind of go with it. I don't,

I don't do all those things that I want to do. You know what I mean? I'm just kind of like listening to you. Oh yeah, hit it here, put it here. Like just fucking make a decision. I can do that when I,

I don't have caddies. I only have caddies like once every fucking two months. Like why I play all the time without caddies. Why can't I put where I know where to put? Like, like, like, have a conversation. Dude, uh,

it's a very much like to when you, uh, when you don't put a seatbelt on right away and then your buddy's driving or something and like six minutes into the ride you're like I need to put my seatbelt on but you try to do it really quietly because you're like dude if he hears me click and he's going to think that this is an indictment on his driving ability right now and then I'm really nervous about my safety and it's that way with a caddy where it's like if things happen fast you grab a you grab a truly hard seltzer you roll to the tea you're a little bit late because you're on a buddy's trip you hit out and the caddy's giving you a little advice and then like two holes in you're like oh hey by the way I'm just going to read my own puts then then You set yourself up for the cat. You're like, well, fucking, what am I, I, to suck? Maybe you suck. And then you're just, you know, you're kind of behind it right away.

So if you don't get out in front of it, I feel like it's almost too late. If we, if we are lucky enough to continuously have caddies and we show up these places that have caddy programs, which we love, obviously we do. I want everyone listening. If you are in that position where we are going to be on the same team together, you come up to me and be like, let's fucking do this. Let's be a team and let's talk it out today.

I'm going to try and be better. and I want you to be better as well. I want you guys, I want to have conversations because it feels as though that they are always on my team. Like they want, they want, like even in that nine iron situation, they wanted me to succeed. They thought that that was the perfect scenario for me to have a better day. And I just didn't give my opinion. I just kind of listened to it and then I internalize it. So that's, this is my admission of guilt of not being able to have conversations with my caddies and I am internalizing all of my problems. I'm on my platform now being able to speak to all of you saying that I have issues having communications in barbershops with caddies, with waiters,

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Louis. That was a 1901 course. I had never been out there before. There was only 64, 6,500 yards from the tips. sneaky, just fantastic layout, again, in great shapes. The greens were awesome. I noticed when we were in Wisconsin, there were a ton of examples, but a couple trees were turning orange and red, so we're getting fall foliage is kind of like

creeping in all the sudden. So for all golfers out there who know, you get to throw a quarter zip on or a hoodie or a pair of pants and you get to kind of roll through courses that usually are, like I said, it's not the spring where it's soaking wet a lot, it's sort of drier, it's firmer. the courses have had all year to get themselves in perfect shape. A lot of club championships are kind of going on. It's just primo golf season for not for watching golf. Major championships are over.

We only got the right of cup left. But in terms of play at golf, this next six weeks is fucking primo. Yep. I saw a lot of posts from these local Northeast golf courses that are punching and they're aerating greens and they're getting their top dressing and they're getting ready for this next phase of the golf court of the golf season. I know my guy, Luke at Rockville, he posted a bunch of stuff. he's getting these greens ready.

And it amazes me. They tear it up for like a week or two when all the kids go back to school and a lot of guys are busy at work and all these like private clubs aren't as busy for this last, you know, right around Labor Day. And then he gets that golf course so fucking dialed up for the end of September for the beginning of October. And that October month, man,

all the trees start to turn a little bit red and brown and yellow and all the, all these turns on par fives and behind par threes. they start to have all this color. You get your phone out. You're getting ridiculous photos. It's just, it shows the uniqueness of all these golf courses. You really start to see the things on the outside. You see the perimeter of the course more than you ever did during the fall season.

I just, I love it. I absolutely love it. Go upstate a little bit. Play those like, those mountainous golf courses. Oh my God, man. There's nothing better. That chill in the air. Maybe you get a little hot cocoa at the turn.

Throw a little bit of vodka in there, a little rum. What are you nuts? Are you fucking? You're kidding me, dude? This is insane that we have this luxury. The best. I love fall golf. Fall golf is the best.

I will definitely miss fall golf in the northeast. But I had just a kick in the sack golf experience on Friday that made me really excited to move to California. Drove up Friday afternoon was going to play at like 3 o'clock with one of my buddies. The forecast just completely turned. And we never really talked about this, how we talked about the meteorologist guy. You know, we talked about how they talked about how they talked. about how they've this on-site meteorologist when really i think they're just looking at the

same weather apps that we're looking at then we met the guy at the corn fairy event who was the actual meteorologist and he showed us all these toys that he uses the atmosphere that that guy was legit he had all these toys all i'm saying is the final product which is the forecast is wrong more often than it's right so you know that's just that's still true uh went up there it got completely rained out it rained basically the whole weekend in new york and then it took me one hour and 47 minutes to drive home after not playing golf because of a rain out. And that was just me thinking, I got to get out of the city, man. I just got to get out of the city.

It's time. I got into it with the weather community once, turned into a big thing. Yeah. What happened? Yep. You got to tread lightly with those people. They're fucking going to come after you. A whole blog about how the weather people are just clueless, basically.

And they're just guessing. I think I called them weather guessers. And then I had a couple lines in there. about the weather girl. And one of the meteorologists from Chicago area started just going off of me on Twitter, talking about how insensitive and derogatory it was for me to call her the weather girl. And it turned into a big thing and basically trying to cancel me for calling her weather girl. And then it turned out that like within the last year she had multiple tweets where she had like

called herself the weather girl or where, you know, some like a seven year old girl had tweeted at her being like, I got a picture of my favorite weather girl. and she had quote tweeted it, been like, your favorite weather girl loves you. And I was like the bad guy for doing the weather girl thing. So it turned into a whole fucking thing.

So I've been kind of, yeah, I've been running a campaign against the weather community because really they're like meteorologists. And then I think there are like entertainers in the weather, right? That would be like me and Frankie calling ourselves golf journalists a little bit

where, you know, you get that sometimes like you get that with people that ask us for like our in-depth, like analysis of like who do we think? things going to finish top 10. We're like, do you know what we do on this golf show? We don't know anything. Like, we're here to entertain.

I think there becomes a little bit of a mix-up in the weather community where there are a meteorologists that are like our guy at the corn fair tour event who are truly utilizing science and, like, their studies to, as best as any human could do, predict the weather accurately. And then there are entertainers who come off as like meteorologists. And when you mix the two, it can be incredibly inferiority. Because I think some of those people don't know what the fuck they're talking about, present it like they're supposed to know what they're talking about.

I have no issue if you don't actually know what you're talking about. I have no issue with like most of the weather entertainers on there that are meteorologists like on the, on the, you know, NBC5 news coverage at night. They're up there and they're the ones that like they end up drawing the dick on there and it goes viral. And that's great. That's fucking nothing wrong with that. We all love our local guy, girl, whoever it is. But when you when you start to get blurry between like who's really an entertainer who actually knows what the hell is going on with the weather, that can drive you fucking insane because very few people I think have

any clue what's going on with the weather. Yeah, we talked about percentages earlier on this podcast where a guy saying this is 100% to play. Just don't tell me, just zero percent should never be on the fucking forecast. It should never say zero percent chance of rain because then there's rain and there's no one to be held accountable. There's nowhere to go. You say I made this whole plan based on zero percent rain, which is by definition means it will not rain. And then it rains that I've got no one to turn to. And then I have an hour and 47 minute drive on the way home.

So, well, the problem that they find themselves in is when they are wrong, they say weather is extremely unpredictable. So I have a fundamental problem just saying that like your job is then unpredictable. Just like be honest at the beginning and say it's very unpredictable. We're all just going to kind of guess our way through this because anything can happen at any moment. I, I would never claim to know what the earth is going to come up with when in terms of if it's going to fall. If raindrops are going to start falling out of these clouds at a certain time. and location. It's crazy. Because even with all the science and all of the data and all of the forecasting, they still don't truly know until it happens. And if it happens and if it doesn't.

So I defeated weather on my wedding. They said it was going to be a 40% chance of rain. They said that we have to bring the whole inside, the whole entire thing inside. And I looked at them and I said, that is going to be wrong. There's no way. I'm looking at the clouds. I'm looking at the sky. There's no way for the next two hours. This will get rained down. It did not one single drop of rain fell. Could have easily just changed the whole entire night. But I said, nope, we're not doing that. So I defeated weather and I'll, you know, ever since then, I've kind of just had like no

opinion about it. It's just kind of a thing that I've just stepped over and I don't even, I don't care about it anymore. It doesn't affect my life. That was enormous. And I think that there's something to just willing things to work out. I think that in that moment, Frankie, you were so mentally tough that you just, you, you were able to say this is too important of an hour right here and this is how it's going to happen and

it just happened. I think there's some power. Knowing how much you care about things, there probably wasn't a single person on the planet who cared more about it and not raining. Like if there was a global power rankings about who cares or whether it rains or not, Frank, Bradley of the third was probably number one. Dude, it was nuts. Like they came over to us and we were doing photos. We were on the first tee of the black and they're like, Frank, we have real bad news. Like, I think it's going to rain during the cocktail hour. We got the band out there. Everyone's about to show up. And I looked at them and I just wrote, I just said, no.

There's no way. There's no way. Like, they were looking at the same apps that I was. And I said, there's a 40% chance in the next hour. That means that there's a 60% chance it won't happen. And I'm willing to take that gamble. I said, there's, like, you guys are acting like, there's not a better chance that it's not going to rain. Why is everyone ignoring that?

The, the, whatever you believe in. So if it's like, if you are a God-fearing man or woman, and you believe, in prayer, right? Like that, the power of what was coming from your brain in that world was so much greater than any other that the compassionate father or, or deity, like, okay, we're not going to make it rain. If you believe in, like, simulation theory and these giant creatures in like another universe who kind of run our simulation or our biological experiment, they saw these like neurological wavelengths coming in and we're like, all right, we're going to give that guy a break. Like, it's just not going to fucking rain there that day's.

think I honestly well that's what happened to me that matter that's what happened to me on Friday they were like you just got back from this incredible golf trip like fuck yeah it's it's raining yeah fuck off that's like when they say tiger woods wheels puts into the hole I think that's right like that that neurological energy from that they're like yeah we're gonna make this ball go into that fucking hole that's people are gonna go nuts it's gonna be fucking great yeah I mean there's videos of like jack i don't know jack nicholas or arnold palmer like on their last hole like making a 25 footer or arnold palmer I think hit like his last shot at the arnold Palmer was like a driver and it was like fuck off there's no way that happened without without some divine

intervention yeah somebody up there's like yeah we're should to make that that's gonna happen no problems whatsoever um all right i uh you know i'm getting a little bit seeing the rome content it got me a little bit uh bummed frankie's going over there for honeymoon but and dan you're going are you going to rome yeah i'll be there the whole week baby thank you to peter milar we're going to be we're going to be all over it's huge it's the last it's the last huge week of the year so can't miss that one uh jealous so you guys are going over there italy has got to be on my top of my list i know lurch kind of talked about a little bit but as a big i'm a big history guy i'm a big dinner guy i like wine i want to go over there see it all that i talked about a little bit of the beginning but fuck man like rome is going to be

so highlighted during this entire thing during that like two weeks stretch leading up to it Rome and Italy and the history and the, ah, the whole, I was watching these, these, uh, spy. The Netflix came out with that like spy ops documentary. And one of them was, uh, about the, uh, attempted assassination on Pope John Paul the second. And they were taught, they were just showcasing all kinds of sick drone footage of the Vatican. And it got me just hyped up and prepare like the drone footage they're going to have showing Marco Simone, no matter how far it is where nowadays with the drones, which are just cheating.

It's like any course does that where if there's a body of water within like 10 miles of your golf course, you could take a drone shot where it looks like your golf course is on the water, basically. That's going to happen with Marco Simone, where they're going to have the fucking Rome in the background. I'm sure to be able to see the Coliseum, but they're going to splice that in with the course. It just started, I started getting the feels about Europe. The one time I've been there was Paris and then London. Both of those were to film videos and then the UK where we went and played golf at Scotland a few different times. but kind of like old school Italy, Greece, uh, type like Europe.

I just have never been to before and it's going to, it's going to, it's going to, it's going to piss me off. The fact that all this is going to be happening. I'm not going to be a part of it. Yeah, I can't fucking wait. I cannot wait. Going back to the motherland, never been there. Where are you going besides Rome?

Like, what's your, what's your itinerary? We're doing Rome for like two days. And then we're going to Sorrento and Capri for quite a bit. and then going back around, back up, and then we're doing like the whole Tuscany, Venice, that whole, that whole. So we're doing a lot of training, a lot of trains, a lot of long car rides,

but we're going to see the whole country as much as we can. We're not going to north because we're going in October. I think that we're keeping it like kind of central and south. But that, you know, I've been looking at pictures of Sorrento and Capri, and I can't even believe that's a real place. It feels like everyone in their mother's been to... Your brain is going to explode when you see those places.

person it's yeah because the only time i've ever been out of the country was to australia which was nuts but it was um it wasn't too much kind of america yeah when you go to like melbourne and sydney it's like oh there's like a burger place on the corner it's like yeah we went to mcdonalds every night in dominoes it was nuts like we really didn't do anything different we had kangaroo one night and it tasted like prosuit so it wasn't dude dan there was like uh we would all like do our daily shit we'd be like sick of each other and be i'm just gonna chill tonight and go back to the hotel and then you could order dominoes and like go pick it up there was like a two minute walk if we get down there you'd see like rigs Trent were on the screen of like pizzas will be ready um and then we went to

scotland obviously which was definitely a change but it didn't feel like that European like crazy touristy lot of people huge it was very much golf it was green it was cloudy it was what Scotland is supposed to be in my in my vision of it in my thinking of it. So I'm very excited to see that old historical Rome, Coliseum. I'm going to be watching a bunch of documentaries leading up to it. Obviously, all the history of Borrellys. And like, I'm just going to be crying the entire time, just like knowing my grandfather came from there. And like, just like, that's it. That's the spot. Do you have details on like where your family's from? Like, are you going to go see some of that stuff? They were from. No, I, so I talked to my dad about it. And he was essentially

saying, like, that's its own trip. They tried to do it once and it became too much. Like, they're in a the Borrellys are from like a little town like north of Naples and it's like hard to get to and it's like if you're doing that in your honeymoon like that's insane like it's it's not that's not the trip for it you know you're supposed to be like eating grapes and getting your like taint slapped around in a little bit you're like you're not supposed to be like going to search for like an old an old cousin that's like fucking making no idea he has no idea probably gonna shoot me as I walk up the fucking driveway um so that's just not that's not in the cards but he's like been grinding his dick off for decades and you're like

oh we take a picture make me a picture I'm in a video game I'm going to go live on Instagram I'm going to go live on Instagram Yeah What the fuck You're talking about you're dead Get out of here

We get this every day He's like oh another Borrelli All right Another Borrelli It goes to Walmart every day and plays Xbox yeah great Dude the amount of people that have recommendations for Italy is overwhelming.

It really is. Oh, dude, I have that too. Dude, I have some. I forgot that I have like all of the Sports Illustrated that I wrote that I wrote articles in like sitting right next to me here. That's sick. Yeah, and the golf. You wrote an article in that one? Yeah. I wrote like a very small sidebar, like I wrote this cover story. I have all the like magazine stories that I wrote like the cover story. I wrote I wrote this cover story. I wrote this cover story, call him Morikawa. But this one just caught my eye and just what a fucking

What a piece of her. I was cleaning out, cleaning up my closet. Eminem, shout out Eminem. But I was doing that the other day and just getting, because like when we moved in here, I kind of, this office, I kind of just like threw everything in this big closet here. And I finally was sick of it. Like it was getting out of control. So we pulled everything out.

And it's all stuff from my parents house and all the stuff that I had at my desk at the office. And that, that Sports Illustrated cover was like kind of crinkled underneath a box. I'm like, this is like the greatest Sports Illustrated. cover I've ever seen. So I flattened it out and I put it somewhere in that closet there. I can't believe you just showed that because I just did that like two days ago. We did this one also when I was at Golf Digest. We did a commemorative tiger 25 years as a pro.

So you got this portrait and then you got this one like right when he turned pro. Why is he praying? I don't know. It's kind of strange. Definitely some God vibes going on. But it's fun for me to look through these magazines. It's like a past life. There are,

there's like three items that I always forget to bring when we go to these events. because we just end up in these spots where I think we could get them signed. And I have that Sports Illustrated, Tiger Woods Masters cover. I have Daniela from the office. Her dad went to the 2019 Masters and got me a 2019 Masters hat. And then I have a 2022 PGA championship flag from Southern Hills that I would obviously love JT to sign because that's one of my favorite flags that like, whatever it is a clock tower. Is that what, or the, is that what it is? Clock Tower was kind of the logo at Southern Hills.

Yeah, yeah. They have that like lighthouse looking thing, yeah. Yeah, those three things I need to remember to bring next time we go to like the PGA or something and we just end up at a spot where these guys chit chat with us. And I could just be like, hey, can you just make my entire apartment the coolest thing ever by fucking signing these things? I didn't remember to bring those. Dude, so for this one I wrote, we were in a story about Tiger Woods's hands. Did you guys know that his right pinkies like all messed up like that? Like there's his left pinky.

And then Frankie, look at this. That's his left pinky. And then this is his right pinky. Do you see that it's like hooked and weird like that? Yeah, why is that? Because he's like hit so many freaking golf balls that it's like, it's like become its own little demented thing from hooking around the golf ball so many times. That's, that's like Laredo at Borelli's his thumbs go sideways because he's been pushing in dough for 50 years like this.

That his thumbs actually go sideways. They're like they go up and then to the right. and up into the left. They're the most disgusting things you've ever seen in your entire life. But it's just his body has morphed. It's like evolution for a pizza guy. Yeah, it's crazy. It happens quick.

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So I'm pretty nervous about like not. I know how to play to like an amateur level. I know obviously the game. I don't know strategy that much. I'm not sure how to know like how many cards are out there if the certain cards are on the table, like how to count like what my percentages are. I'm not Nate dog with cracking aces, but I'm just looking to like not embarrass myself

and just not like bust right on the, right in the beginning. Yeah. I feel like the key is small, yeah, small bets for the first like hour and a half. Like someone, someone tries to like make you a bet, you know, check or call you for, I don't even know that someone tries to make a bet where they like go for half of yourself. You're like, no, I'm just going to fold. Just wait it out. Don't be the first guy out.

I had a huge poker face. I had a huge poker face. I, uh, yeah, I mean, I had like in college one time, I think I won like 10 or 12 grand in a tournament. And then I would do, which in college, obviously, it's, you feel like the richest person in the world. But I would lose it all because then I would just play in the biggest tournaments and obviously not fucking win. But, you know, I had a point where I could do 25 tables at a time on like poker stars. Holy shit. And yeah, and you would do like, you could do, so obviously there's a, but you could do cash game, which everybody's aware of.

You could do the huge tournaments like the World Series of poker, but they were obviously online where they'd be hundreds or thousands of people in an event, which would be MTTs they'd call them, like multiple table tournaments. And then you could do single table tournaments, which were, like, you could kind of find that that was like a weak spot in the, like, value. There's huge value in it because there'd be like a $100 table, right? You buy them for $100. Obviously, the pot would be for nine people, it would be like, 900 bucks. First place would be like, whatever, $500 or somewhere around there. And you would learn that like the field would be incredibly weak at those. Like out of the nine people like six or seven of them would be people because you would look people up would be

people that are just complete fish that are just like I've got a hundred bucks in my account fuck it I'm going to buy into this table and like go all in like an ass clown and so if you played a shit ton of tables and just ran a very basic like solid mathematical strategy and you played enough you could just make a killing but it was a fucking grind it was like worse than any job he'd have just takes so long that's my problem with poker well those table tournaments would take like an hour to two hours total. So if you played, that's why I would play so many of them. If you played like 25 at a time and you had a certain win rate, you could grind for five or six, seven, eight hours and build up your bankroll to a pretty fucking good number. And then if you were a degenerate like I was

at that point, you could take that bankroll and then go play in like all the Sunday major tournaments. There'd be like a $500 buy-in tournament that the first place would be like $100,000. There'd be, the Sunday million was like a $200 buy-in tournament. That first place was like $280,000. And so you would you would grind your dick off in these shit little tournaments to make a little bit of money and get your bankroll up to like a thousand dollars or a couple grand and then just go crazy on Sunday and spend like $2,000 worth of buy-ins and go goose egg and then you'd have to start all over again. It's an absolute fucking grind. But people that were really good with bankroll management would make a shit ton of money. And obviously you have like created careers out of it. And then there's all these guys on TV and whatever.

But I had a couple of your phase in college where I was all in on poker and they had all these different websites to you where you would go and debate hands. So like pocket fives, I believe, was one of the websites where, dude, you'd go on there and people for, for days would post a threat about like a hand history and people would just go to war with each other over like playing it, how they should have played it. And like, that's how you learn how to get better. And that's what Nate Dogg's done with crack and aces, which if you're into the poker world at all, that world's fucking fascinating. But yeah, it's, you could get, you could get hooked on poker very fucking easily. Oh, for sure. A hundred percent. My dad used to be on all the websites back in the day.

He used to sit there and like pull up a chair and just watch him play. He'd be in like a 50 cent game and we'd be acting like it was Game 7 in the World Series because you have you, you, you eliminate seven of the guys on the table and then it's just heads up and you're like, that shit is fucking stressful because you got to make moves at that point. You're just, it's one, it's mono and we're like, we've made all this work. We've done all this work to get all these guys out. And now we have each big share of the pot. And I have to now get you out.

And your whole strategy changes. Like it's now you just got to beat one guy and he can fucking just bluff you into oblivion or you can just, I find it to be incredibly impressive that people can make a living off poker because it is a stressful, stressful game. It's the most stressful shit. And it's like it's literally you're a couple instances away, some people from having the best career of all time or being completely broke. Like there was one hand.

I remember I had in that Sunday million tournament, which again, I'm in fucking college or like, I'm in my young 20s, $200 buying. I got down to the final, like, 25 people. First place, I think is like $280,000. And like 25th place is like $1,200 or something like that. And I remember there's this chip leader at the table. And I was like fourth or fifth in the tournament in chips. And I think I was like small blind and he was on the button.

So he was essentially, right? And he like somebody raised. He raised big time. I had pocket aces. So I raised big time. He just goes all in. I call, I got aces, he's got Ace King, and it ended up coming out, like,

he ends up hitting a straight on the river or something, and knock me out of the tournament, I would have been the chip leader by like a mile, and literally if that just goes the other way, like you're guaranteed to make, you know, probably 75 grand or something, because you'd finish in the top five of the tournament. Instead, you end up making like $1,900,

which you lose later that night because you're on tilt and you're all fucking rattled. So it's like, if you're smart with your bank girl, you can overcome those things, but do those moments for people, like when you watch a World Series of Poker, the main event and you see people getting instances like that with like 18 people left and first place is like eight million dollars and like you know 18th place is like a couple hundred or yeah

like maybe a couple hundred grand or a hundred grand it's like are you fucking kidding me with that difference in that moment where you have to make a decision that's like what world would you be in in any profession where you have to make a decision right there that will either make you eight million dollars or basically you do a little better than breaking even it's like what those bad breaks are those bad beats are just I mean that There's some of the best things to watch on Instagram, but they're also just devastating, completely devastating. You'll see like 99% win percentage going into the river. And then it's just like, holy fuck, how is that possible?

It's fucking awful. Awful. I hope you crush it, Frankie. Yeah, we'll see. Go in there like a shark. Where are you playing? It's a Matt Martin foundation for the Islanders. He has like his poker tournament every single year.

They raise a bunch of money. This year I'm out of table. Usually I walk around. just like stare at all the islanders and like act like I'm like a part of the thing even though I'm just being like a weirdo like weirdo fan but this year I'm actually part of the event so I'm like going to be sitting there playing poker and hopefully people don't get super super depressed that I'm one of the players that they're at the table with as opposed to an actual island what a letdown oh dude that happened to us are my first year on the podcast we went to the kyle rudolph golf

charity tournament in minnesota and they had guys like larry fitzgerald and adam feeling and fucking all these professional football players. And I walk up thinking that we are just going to be playing as a foursome, like me, Dave, Riggs and Trent were all going to be together. Because I think Dave was at that, right? Yeah, Dave was with that. That's what he bought that car. Remember that from that guy?

Yeah, he bought that old school car. And I walk up and they're like, Frankie, you're with group 12. And I just, I couldn't believe that I was a quote unquote celebrity guest. And I legitimately apologize to these people saying, I don't know how you guys got me. Like, Roger Clemens is a front of us and fucking like Peyton Manning's behind us, but you got the camera guy for the pizza reviews that sometimes skulls his wedges over the green on like a mildly big golf podcast. At the time, it was like, you couldn't believe the fucking level of non-celebrity that they

had gotten in their group. And they ended up being the greatest people ever. it was a i tell the story it was loonani he's like he's the god of minnesota hockey he's just he's the godfather of minnesota hockey and i kept calling him loon and it was just uh it was a problem so yeah the whole entire day was not good shout to kyle rudolph he just retired congratulations to him so i love kyle rudolph big country yeah yep i remember my group there was like the local like bar and then like alcohol distributors that are related to like the vikings or whatever at the And luckily, same exact situation I roll up.

They're like, who are you? I'm like, you know, I'm like, Riggs. We, you know, I don't know. We do golf podcasts. Like, oh, you guys familiar, barstful sports. They're like, nope. Like, what's that? That's like, fuck.

But luckily, because they're in the industry, they were just huge drinkers. So I had to commit to like every time they wanted to just do a shot or they're like, every time somebody makes a birdie, we'll do a shot. It was like a four person scramble. I was like, well, I mean, that's going to be a lot of birdies. I feel like we're going to make some birdies. I feel like, oh, we're terrible. I was like, yeah, it's a four-person scramble.

So then, like you said, to make up for the fact that they had no clue who we were. I was like, I'll drink with you all day. We ended up just getting shit-faced and having a fantastic time. Yeah, that was great. All right. I think that's all I got. Like I said, we're in the football season, fall golf. Fantastic time to be playing golf.

Sir was to have a little more Rider Cup tidbits. They'll be popping out. We got the fortinet. Is that this week I saw? They're back. Yeah. It's the beginning of the full schedule, not full. FedEx, guys are playing for position.

So it'll be interesting to see what the vibe is like of these tournaments because I think Justin Thomas is playing. So imagine he misses the cut this week. That'd be bad. Yeah, JT and Max, right? Max. Well, Max is sponsored by one of 27 companies on his shirts. I think it's Fortnite.

So I think he's, I think it's a sponsor deal. Do we have a video coming out this week, Alex? No, we don't. We're deep in the writer. stuff. Rider Cup. Okay.

So it's going to be these next couple of weeks here. We are, so we did the Rider Cup, W-R-I-T-E-R, not Ryter Cup. Riter Cup. Honestly, we'll be arguably the best golf content that's come out at this company. It's going to be on the Barstall YouTube and our guys are going to be editing it. Of course, you knew that was going to happen. So we got Brendan, Alex, Kyle, Jared, all these guys are working extremely hard on a video that they did not think they'd be editing going into this year because we have this whole schedule.

We have a lot of our own videos. I think eight full videos. I think eight full videos. I believe just two weeks straight of just like four videos back to back to back to back. Then the weekend goes and then four videos back to back to back. And then we have the Dave and Jerry video coming out right after that. That will be on our channel. So these guys have a lot of.

Side gig with Shane Lowry is coming out soon. Side gig with Shane Lowry. Another fixing Frankie we have in the can that's coming out with Dr. Brett McCabe. we've got breaking 90 coming out we've got four more at least what did you what you say uh NASCAR too NASCAR scramble I've I'm going to record two more um break uh barstool golfs on thursday one of them being kirk minnehan which will just be an all time episode of kirk coming along island playing barstall golf we got Tommy smokes coming out there we've got large coming out it's we're going to Chicago and we're doing all those so it's non-stop we all kirk Kirk could post uh he could

He could take the lead, I feel like. So, 43 right now is the low. Francis? Yeah, 43. And they play from the whites. If you have, if you can keep it straight and, and at Colonial and you're playing from the whites, like obviously it's like 3,100 yards, you can post a good score. It's soft greens right now, like everything's wet right now.

I think that he could absolutely, absolutely be in contention for the lowest score in Barcelona's history. I think he, I think he's, yeah, I think, there's a pretty good number coming out of him like i think he has a pretty good chance of doing that he hits it he hasn't hit it far but he hits it fucking straight he's a competitor he's having a year the minislam that's all he talks about he won the minicolv uh so yeah i think he uh and he's gonna take it insanely seriously i can see kirk i could see kirk coming for that 43 easily i'm so excited for that and we have a couple more travel um situations coming along i don't know if we want to tease any of that

shit but we got some big stuff on the horizon here yeah we're going to fucking Casa de Campo. I mean, we're going to Dominican Republic, baby. Big puppy or teeth of the teeth of the dog. I think it's like all fucking Pete die courses down there with which Pete die courses will just fuck your brain up. He is the master of making you uncomfortable. The wind. We're going to be on the ocean. Uh, you fly, you fly into like Punta Kana, I think, and then drive from there. But this place Casa de Campo, we've been talking with them for a few years. Has it really worked out. Uh, we're going to be down, baby, in the, in the, in the, Caribbean, I guess, is kind of where

Dominican. Yeah, I think it's the island of Hispanola. Shares it with Haiti. Ooh, come on. So, yeah, we've got another month or so until we're doing that, maybe a couple months, I guess, like a month and a half until we're doing that. So really jacked up for that.

I've been looking at pictures, the villas on the water, pool, great weather. We're going to have kind of, I think, the whole crew down there doing all kinds of wild stuff and travel series. So that's just going to add, what, another six videos to the hopper for our fellas. And then even on top of that,

I'm going to tease people. I'm going to do a little cock tease here. If you saw my stream, I did a stream for PGA Tour 2K23 last week, and good, good entered the chat. Good, good entered the chat. They started fucking putting in all this money

in our super chat and shit like that. I didn't even know you could do that. They started dropping $200 donations being like, what's up, Frankie? They were dominating the chat, if we're being honest. Like, they were just were controlling,

they were doing what the caddy was doing to me on the golf course. They were just controlling my day and just being like, this is what you're going to do. They've been trying to reach out saying that they want to do a video. I know that our history with Good Good is that we've tried to do videos with them and it never really turned into anything.

I don't know if we were too eccentric or crazy or I say the word cock and balls too much. But I think that we've figured it out. And I think that we're going to do something in the next couple months, whether we travel somewhere with them. But Briggs has been in contact with them. And I think that it's happening. I'm pretty sure that we're close to the finish line on set and melt with good good. So that should be fun.

Yeah, we're going to make it happen. They've been, they've been, they've been very interested for a while, whether it was scheduling or conflict or whatever, it just hasn't made it happen. I know they kind of, I think a year or so ago, they kind of brought it up on their podcast. They'd love to play. We've talked about it. And they dominated Frankie's chat. And it kind of reignited the conversation. They've been fantastic to chat with. They're very eager to do it. I think it'd be a hilarious kind of like meshing, meshing, colliding of worlds in a great way. I don't, you know, we don't really, we don't know them at all.

I got a personal level. I kind of know one of their guys that we've talked to about doing stuff and we've interacted online a little bit here and there, but it'd be great to, it's going to be great to get together. I think it's way better that we'd be meeting each other for the first time on the first tee with cameras rolling. I think one of the things that we want to do with a good, good collaboration is really show who they are, as opposed to like how good a golfers they are. I think that we kind of bring that out in people pretty easily on our channel that you can actually see these people. They're incredible golfers and some of the guys do trick shot stuff.

And like they're just, they are fucking, they are sticks. And they show that and they're good and they have all the viral videos of them making whole on ones on par fours and shit like that. But I want to be like, who are these guys actually? You know, like who are these people? All of them. I want to know their producers. I want to know every single guy that's on that team.

So that'll be fun. Hopefully we can set that up. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, that'll do that'll do well. I'm very, I'm just as a, even as a fan, I'm curious to see how. how that goes because I've never met any of them either. So, yeah, we're going to set that up. But yeah, a lot of good stuff coming.

Our boys are grinding on the Ryder Cup, which I think people are going to go nuts over those videos. And PG at Tours back this week. So Max, I think, has won back-to-back years there at the Fortnite. He chipped in last year. And then our boy who won the Masters when Speed collapsed. Danny Willett. He three-jacked on the 72nd Hall, right?

It was bad. From four feet or something. Yeah. Yeah, it was bad. It was really bad. So anyways, Max will be the defending champ. We love Max. He had a great tweet.

the during the Texas Bama game that went viral per usual. Max is very good at social media. So he's back this week. So yeah, enjoy the Fortnite football, the whole deal. Good luck to Bush and good luck to Frankie tonight. Big game. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard. Hit hard. Fuck!