Fore Play - Call Him Uncle: It’s Fighting Time
Episode Date: June 17, 2021The 2021 U.S. Open is here. It’s go time. It’s fight time. We breakdown our 3 days onsite at Torrey Pines: Trent putting a dummy mark on Kiz’s driver; Men of Streel catching up with Kevin Streel...man; Brad Faxon’s history and the report of “Bryson declined”; much more. Then, we’re joined by Austen Dailey (90:37) who recounts the surreal saga of a fight he was involved in (with police and all) at the Korn Ferry Tour’s Monday qualifier this week. Big show!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Not your best clap there, Trim, but we'll work on it.
Do you feel like you slapped your arm there?
No, touch with the fingers.
No palms.
The fingers connected.
Yeah, I understand that.
It's the second show of U.S. Open week as you're listening to this.
The U.S. Open is pretty much about to begin unless you're one of those people that listens really late, like my mother, for example.
So hello to my mother and my sister, I think a lot.
But they're out in Colorado, which is, you know, so around like 10 p.m. their time.
And they stay up a little later.
So they actually listen to it like before Thursday.
Hello to the women and your family.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
I don't think a single person my family listens to this show.
Is that right?
My mom does.
So I guess they might.
I'll hear about it.
Hello to your mother.
Big show.
So we've got Austin Daly on.
Austin Daly was the victim in the corn fairy,
Corn Ferry Tour.
It's been a long couple days.
Corn Ferry Tour
Qualifier, Monday qualifier
this past Monday,
who got in a literal fist fight
on the T,
on the eighth T,
I believe it was,
or eighth hole in Kansas,
in Newton, Kansas,
I believe is where it was,
this past Monday.
This story went crazy.
Cops were called.
Arrests were made.
Austin Daley
tells the story
from his vantage point,
and it's must listen.
I would call it Muslinson.
Yeah.
When that story started to trickle out, we only saw headlines,
no videos or anything like that, so you just have to read about it.
And I was really happy or I was looking forward to talking to him just to get what actually
went down from a guy who was there and very much involved in the fight.
And it's just a great, I don't know what types of words to use because we talked to Austin for 25, 30 minutes.
It seems like a very nice, great guy.
So I don't want to talk about a story where he got sucker punched and then held down.
I don't want to call that a great story,
but it is a great story.
It's a great story.
It didn't happen to you, Trent,
didn't happen to me.
No,
but he was such a nice guy
that it's not a great thing for him.
I don't wish ill,
I don't have ill wishes upon him at all.
I love,
he's awesome.
That guy's great.
But it's a great story.
I mean,
it's an amazing story.
What's the like,
you know,
if you're reading a book,
it's a page turner.
Yeah.
What's this one in the podcast world?
This is,
a word listener.
I don't know.
It's just a good story.
Okay.
The guy's got a great story.
So he was legitimately attacked in this round of golf.
Words are exchange.
There's people not looking for balls.
Other people make chirps if you should hit the ball straight.
And then it turns into arrest, police, and it's amazing.
So that's coming up after we go through all the U.S. Open stuff.
It's Thursday.
It's Transfusion Thursday, Owens Mixers.
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mixers, transfusions, one that we, of course, had been talking about on this show for years,
probably since our inception, if you will.
Yeah, I would say it's the first couple episodes, I'm sure we brought it up, and it's just
exploded since then.
And we were able to work with them, taste testing, all kinds of stuff to perfect that recipe,
put it in a cool, cute little can, and then put it in stores all across the country so that
all you do is pour it in with your favorite vodka of choice and you have a delicious, delicious cocktail.
You can do that with the Paloma, which is Lurch's big thing.
I've been with you these last couple of days, Lurch, and people yell at you Palomas.
People love it.
Not even like, hey, man, I love Palomas.
They just look at you, see you.
They're like, I think that's Lurch, and they just say, Palomas.
It's like when people just yell pizza at Dave.
Yeah.
People yell, like people.
That's your kind of bonding thing.
I mean, maybe they just yell golf.
Maybe they yell 100 at you.
People yell luggage at me a lot.
Oh, luggage is a good one.
It makes sense.
Luggage guy.
Yeah.
I can see that.
It doesn't feel good though if someone tells luggage at you.
I got to tell you, it feels great.
Does it?
Yeah, because I know what it is.
They're in on it.
They're not calling me luggage.
Right.
They're saying you did a thing with luggage.
They pointed at you in a derogatory way and said luggage.
Because isn't that a derogatory term in hockey maybe?
Or like your suitcase.
Like your luggage means you're kind of holding the whole group up.
That's what I thought.
I think that's right.
Luggage is, yeah, luggage just, it takes long.
guy's absolute luggage. Like when you travel and you have more luggage, you're just a less efficient
traveler. Right. And I, you know, maybe some people have just called me luggage not reference to the
luggage guy. It's somebody that you're bringing along. Like you're not adding any value to keep us going
forward. You got to carry the luggage with it. We used to call behind his back, our head coach, Ted Donato,
who's still the head coach, uh, they're hard hugging out. We used to call him a suit. Are you prepared for him
to find this out? Yeah, it's fine. Okay. I think he's a big martialistful fan. He loves the Conte's big
golfer. Um, we used to call him a suitcase because like,
his last few years in the HL,
he played for like seven different teams or something.
So we just call him a suitcase.
Yeah,
that's a good little term.
I mean,
I would say that's almost a compliment.
I think you want to be on one team consistently.
But it's better than not being on a team.
Yeah,
but when you go from,
you know,
these storied careers,
he's like Bruins for a while,
Rangers for a while,
then all of a sudden you're out of the league
and you're coaching fucking rigs playing hockey.
I don't know that it was meant that way.
That's quite a drop off.
Yeah,
a little bit.
But he's great guy,
and their teams have done extremely well since.
He's got sons in the NHL.
So he's done a great job.
And he was just coached for the World Junior team that took down the gold medal.
Was he really?
Yeah, I didn't know that.
I think he was assistant coach.
I saw Brian Boyle playing on that team.
I was like, wow.
Who are they picking?
Wow.
Anyways.
Owens mixers, delicious.
People yell, you all them at Lurch.
But they got the grapefruit and lime.
They got the cucumber and limes are one of my favorites,
and they make a lot of good mixture flavor.
So big thanks to Owens Mixers.
Okay.
I'm going to say the biggest thing that's occurred since we've been here.
This is three days.
We've been on site.
day one we chatted with Craig we put that interview out from the the association we chatted with
him put that out and just kind of you know got acquainted with the tournament championship sorry
excuse me and then Tuesday and Wednesday you know we kind of found our spot and chat with a few
different people. Biggest moment thus far and the biggest question on people's minds is the status
of Kevin Kisner's driver after Trent took it and well you want to tell people what happened
Well, yeah, we were wandering around the course, doing what we do with these major championships,
just trying to, you know, as you explained today, which I thought was apt, just like getting
people's way.
We get in people's way, and we've done it enough now that we've made these relationships where we
can talk to these guys, they're not completely freaked out by the whole thing.
And obviously, Kevin Kisner is that to a whole different level.
We were buddies with him.
So we go out there and we try to watch him during his practice round, and we tracked him down
on Tuesday.
We found him on the 15th hole.
and I had actually, because on that whole, they went to the T-box and JT and Dewey and their whole crew walked towards the fairway and we were closer to the fairway.
So, you know, I talked to JT a little bit, talked about my 122 video if we were still okay, if we're still in good terms, if he's still my swing coach.
There were concerns, right.
Oh, yeah, because, you know, I go down there, he teaches me all these things.
I act or I do absorb a lot of it, but then I have to put it into practice when I play an actual round of golf.
and I shot 122
so I was a little nervous to see him
I thought he might just be like
you know it's just not working out
between the two of us
you seem like a nice guy
but you just really suck your call
he's in for the long term
right that is I didn't want to tarnish his reputation
if at any point
he starts to get feedback in real circles
that it's like we can't trust
this John Tillerig guy anymore
because the guy that he is teaching
is well just cannot break one hundred
he starts losing bookings
right Ricky pulls out
Kisner starts looking at him like
even though they've been boys for a while
he's kind of like, what's going on with this guy?
Do you lose your touch?
Like, what do you got?
Right.
So I was legitimately nervous to see JT because that's, I don't, I don't care about anybody else
except him because I know the work that we put into it.
And it's like to not see the fruits of that labor the first time around.
I was nervous, but he was very cool.
He took the blame.
That's why he's the best in the world.
But anyway.
Class act.
He really is.
He really is.
But anyway, so Kisner and them, they hit their T shots on 15.
They start walking down the fairway.
And I see Kevin Kisner waving at me being like, let's see.
one let's see one and I know what that means I know obviously he wants to see the new swing
it's the first time we've seen kids in months and he's walking down a u.s open fairway going
Trent let's see you one waving his hands and immediately the heart starts going because I know
what that means he's like he's part of the till gang he wants to see what his stable mate what kind
of progress he has made so I you're brothers we are brothers and arms so I duck under the rope
we run out there I get you know I take kids as
driver.
I can't, again, I can't
overestimate how hard my heart
was pounding.
Couldn't imagine.
Just because the whole thing, like.
Right, you're in a U.S.
open fairway.
Yeah.
You're showing off your swing for the first time
to Kisner, who's
a stable-made guy, and
you're trying to do right by J.T.
I mean, power to you, like a big thing
that's putting the pressure on you.
That's the big part where
John Tilleri was there.
Right.
Throughout the whole thing.
John Tiller was going to watch Kiz,
watch me.
And this, so it's sort of like the pressure's on
you know, I put the, I get the club in my hand.
I don't have a glove.
Let's make that clear.
Huge issue.
It's very uncomfortable to have it.
Another thing I want to make clear is that I'm not looking down a fair way.
You know what I mean?
I'm not, I'm looking at a canyon.
I'm looking at the Pacific Ocean.
Wasn't a tailor-made club?
Was not a tailor-made club.
So a few of these things are working against me.
My heart rate's at 180, 190, probably.
I didn't check, but it was probably right around there.
And so, you know, mine it up, get the grip.
Try to think about all the things that J.T. has taught me over these last couple weeks, last couple months.
And, you know, you know.
Yeah, no, I know.
Yeah.
You know, I make my best effort.
And I just hit it right off the toe.
Skies it right, go straight up in the air, all the way right.
And I left a dummy mark on Kiz's driver.
Very few people can be put in a situation.
to hit one golf shot that is more nerve-racking than that.
And, you know, combine that with the fact that you're going through changes that,
like, if you would just take in your normal swing there,
you would have, there's no way you would have hit it that bad.
No.
But you're trying to commit to the new movements.
And like, so that makes it really uncomfortable.
The fact that you're doing it makes really uncomfortable.
In fact, you didn't have a glove and all the other stuff.
Like, of course you were going to hit a bad shot.
But I really didn't want to.
You know what I mean?
Like as soon as I hit it, like the video, people like the video, whatever.
It's like, aha, translexic golf because I, you know, right now in that moment, I definitely did.
Sometimes you do.
Yeah.
We're trying to clean up those areas.
But I really want to hit a good one and have people go and like, oh, yeah, JT's going nuts.
Kisner's going nuts.
You know, it just wasn't meant to be.
I was nervous.
I did.
And, you know, I kind of felt bad because I kept hammering this point home yesterday.
but I kept being like because you're like no the video was good it's not the big of a deal I could be like but dude
imagine if you piped one and did all the things that JT wanted you to do kids would have been like
T would have been like I told you dog and it would have been a scene yeah um that's for later though
that can still happen that's part of the process totally yeah totally I mean the last video put out
the first T you rope that thing down the middle crushed it yeah and I would say that alone is wild
movement to JT. I mean, you've added 50 yards. Yeah. Right? 40 to 50 yards, yeah. Which is tremendous.
Like he's added that to your swing in terms of it's upside. So added a ton. I think we were just
with them hanging out. And the funniest part of it all is that you think, or you told him, you're like,
no, I got this. I can putt. And putting was a mess. Yeah, no, putting's still a mess. So that's
something I got to work on. But yeah, I wanted to hit a good drive in front of all those guys.
and it just wasn't meant to be, but it's okay.
I got an idea.
I think you should, we should.
Is this a tip coming?
Are you giving them a tip?
No, I think we should collect in-depth stats of your rounds.
So like exactly how many fairways you hit, exactly how many greens you hit,
exactly how many puts you had, exactly what your scrambling percentage is,
what your sand save percentage is.
This is a great idea.
Over this run from now until you post something in the,
double digits, we just keep all your stats.
I like it.
This is a great idea.
Yeah.
This is something people can get behind too.
Totally.
Because one round, like golf, you never have it.
Like some days you drive the ball well, you don't hit irons well.
And so, and then some days you just don't put well, whatever the case is.
Yeah.
So now people can truly get behind.
The trends.
The trends.
I like this.
This is really good.
We can hone in on what specifically you need to work on.
Because it might be like, dude, Trent, no, you're, you're hitting it out there, you know, pretty
consistently and you're even though you're maybe you're missing a few fairways but like you're
barely missing it and like yeah you don't hit a ton of greens but you're right there but you know
you had 47 puts or something you're like you know i think that's a great idea and we will
definitely do that going forward let's keep some staff 47 pots is going to be tough i that was just how
how many points you think you had in the last round i i try not to think about it okay it's probably
for the best yeah we'll start now with the statistic no no we got to get those stats okay from the
122 you got I mean you gotta have oh yeah true yeah we'll get those you ever look at the you know we got
the us over coming up like the number the fact that they're just in the 20s a lot these guys from putts that
they haven't around that's different crazy crazy crazy I'm one of the best putting rounds in my life
I don't think I'm in the high 20s no and they'll be like 20 sometimes they'll be like 24 puts 20 you're like
wait wait wait what what it is crazy I mean because sometimes I feel like the amateur when they think about putting and their strokes
they think like oh I putted one from the fairware just off like that doesn't that counts as a putt truly it doesn't
but I still never think that I'm sub 30 for putts in a round dude I don't think I don't think I ever am and they are all the time right
and I usually putt pretty well you're great putt you like 25 26 27 between that's like no pots and they do that all of the time you have 18
right immediately you're at 18 right starting at 8th right starting at 8th but dude like 25 26 27 between 20 20 20 20 20 starting at
If you're sub 36, you're less than two putts around per hole.
It's crazy.
There's not a world I live.
They're way below two putts around.
Trent looks like he's panicking over there.
That seems like an impossibility.
Yeah.
We'll start small.
He's like, yeah, we'll start now.
Where do you think, like when we unpack these stats,
you thought putting was your best asset?
I still actually think putting's your best asset.
I don't.
What do you think?
I think your driving is your best asset.
asset. I think it is now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Pudding, I, for whatever reason,
because I also thought I was a good putter. You go back on, there's, there's some videos where I'm a
pretty good putter. Totally. Over, over the years. But Charmin thinks you're a great putter.
He does. Yeah. For whatever reason, maybe I'm, you know, I was so focused on that being not what I
needed to focus on that it started to drag a little. I just think you're very streaky putter.
Yeah.
and that your bad is just really bad.
Really bad.
Which is being exposed now in that you're finishing everything, right?
Which is a huge credit to you.
But when you put everything in the hole, that when you're not, it just gets, it's just like,
you just add them up and it's like, oh, yeah, pointing it a lot.
Yeah, ball and hole is different.
Whereas a lot of times if somebody's like grinding and they don't typically break a hundred,
you like had a lag puttut from 15 feet and you hit it four feet by or something.
Like scoop it great you know let's move on ha ha high fives
I'll bring that fucker
No doubt
And to that point
I like Trent would have broken a hundred if he played by other people's standards
Totally
One of the best moments
Or one of my favorite interactions with you ever
Was when we played Bethpage
Yeah
And we're like hey Trent what'd you have
And he's like oh last three holes
You used to keep it on your cell phone
It was like 11, 13 is 10
No other human being on the planet
Keep sitting it after
seven. They just say, all right, boys, I'll just see you on the next T-Bucks. No, not T-Dady.
So, because you've played stretches, 13 holes of good golf. And then you have five that are just off the rails.
Really bad. Right, really bad. You get tired. You start seeing those kind of shoulders limp air.
Endurance underrated. Yeah. Right. We're talking about today. But you can start, when you see the beads of sweat pouring off, Tea Daddy, you know that he's not amply hydrated or he doesn't have the right nutrition in his body.
Well, again, I'm allergic to the sun.
We made that clear.
We think that's real, right?
I honestly do think that's real.
I think there's a part of me because we all go to these golf tournaments and like I'm, I'm in bad shape, but like I'm not in like, no.
No.
You're in bad shape.
That was mean.
You're in bad shape.
I would have taken that from rig.
I'm not taking that from me.
I'm in horrible.
We're both in really bad shape.
This is a great example.
This is a great example.
It's a genuinely rude thing.
You're a good test because we, I'd say, we're in similar.
bad shape. We go out to these golf tournaments and like we have we have very similar days because
we're together all the time. I go back to my hotel room and I want to die. I have the worst
headache every time of my life every time it happens and I just feel like I've been beat up.
And you, you feel normal. No, not I'm tired. I'm exhausted. I'm exhausted, but you have headaches?
Yeah. I remember at the Barstool Classic down Atlantic City, you got legitimately sick. I couldn't do
the podcast because the headache was so bad.
You legit, you bowed out, you tapped out of doing the podcast because the sun had affected
you so greatly.
When I was perfectly in a position to do it, I was just at my apartment, my laptop was charged,
I had internet, like, I could have done it, but my headache was so bad.
And you were sitting there and you were like, all right, I don't think I need the podcast.
Yeah, I sat down because we were about to do it and I was like, oh, I can't do this
because I have such a bad headache.
I think I'm, do I think I'm actually allergic to the sun?
I don't know.
Maybe I just need to like, but I've been out in the sun more.
I thought I'd get more used to it.
I don't know.
I mean, everybody is allergic to the sun in a certain point.
But yeah, I do think it affects you worse than really anybody that I've ever met.
Maybe you just have like a really deep sensitivity to like radiation and it's in it.
Do you drink enough water?
I try to, yeah.
Do you?
I try to pound water.
You drink a good amount of water, I think.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I was worried maybe you're not hydrated enough, but I think that's okay.
This is going to get, you know, graphic, but do you ever poop?
No.
Because that's a sign of true dehydration.
I did that this morning.
Oh, really?
The only thing that I, in.
No, I mean, I'm glad we clear that up.
But I will, there are times going to the list here.
When my piss is just, it's, it's a different hue of yellow.
Okay.
That's just a deep, just like a, just a dark.
Almost red. No, no, no.
You're describing orange.
Is that what you're describing?
No, just like, people know.
Like, people know.
I mean, when it smells, that's usually a sign of...
You don't want that.
No.
No.
Or the green.
Yeah.
You don't want either of those.
No, yeah.
Time to pick up a cup of water.
What a U.S. Open podcast, this is.
Yeah.
No.
I, look, I think the way that you've, your body has been handling the sun in the years of us now being
out in it a lot.
Yeah.
And you probably need to change something.
I don't know.
Maybe see a doctor.
Maybe.
Yeah.
You do the sunscreen too.
No hat ever.
Not usually.
Yeah, but no hat recently.
Maybe it's just because you're outside of your clothes.
I mean, you wear those clothes for everything else in this life.
When we walk around a golf course, you got the Peter Millar's on, and that's what you rock.
I think it's a clothing issue?
Hard to know.
No, I don't know.
I don't know what it is.
If anybody knows, let Trent, you know, give them a, yeah, please.
Anybody got any food count?
So this is a little note in there about counting.
for each person, the, I would say the indulgences that we've had on certain items.
And two that we're really going to focus on are ice cream and the uncrustables.
Both fantastic.
Now, I just have a question before we go into this, because this topic has been brought up before.
Yeah.
Is this a HIPAA violation?
Yeah.
Is me revealing to you the number that I'm going to share with the rest of the crew,
is that considered a HIPAA violation?
because I'd like to file it under that category.
Oh, man.
My question was just going to be a little bit different.
It was wondering if this was, did you place this in?
Or was this actually another email of somebody asking to know the food count?
No, this was something that I think yesterday when we were walking around,
we were like, you know, we should we should track how much people eat.
Because I asked Trent, very genuine.
I said how many, we were both together eating.
one of the fat boys at the same time.
Ice cream sandwiches.
Ice cream sandwiches.
Very good.
And I said, how many of those you think you're going to have this week?
And I think you said, like, five.
Which would be about one a day.
Around one a day.
And I said, I think that sounds about right.
And I think that Jake Bass was like, that shock.
Like, you're going to have five.
And we were kind of talking about it.
And I thought that that was about right.
And so we're like, well, why don't we just track them?
And the uncrustable's entered the inter-scene.
And we're like, well, we should track those two.
All right.
So I would say these are my real numbers so far through what's today.
This is Wednesday.
We've been here three days.
It's Wednesday.
We've been here three days.
I haven't been hitting the ice cream sandwiches as hard.
I've probably, I've had two of those.
I know I've had two of those.
Okay, me too.
I've had four uncrustables.
Those are good, though.
And then, but I've really filled it in with these red velvet cookies that they have.
I know.
I've had, I've probably had seven.
I know.
You're doing sneaks too, which is a dangerous thing.
I know.
You're not even going public with some of the picks,
which I know is a big guy to big guy.
Because I'm sick of people judging me when it happens, you know?
So you've been sneaking over there and just just enjoying them occasionally?
Oh, look at that face.
So he'll do, like, he'll finish the meal with everybody.
And then he'll be thrown away and then he'll do a sneak pluck where he's not even,
he's not even going public without.
Have you?
Have you lied?
Have you lied?
I'll tell you how bad.
Here's an example.
I went, I got no crest.
And I was like, oh, I'm a piece shit.
I got this uncrussled.
Right.
I got, I slyly picked up a red velvet cookie, and I hit it behind the encrissible when I
walked back to the table.
That's real.
I mean, that's, I appreciate you bringing that to the truth table here.
Yeah.
You know, this has been fun.
That's honest.
Have you lied yet and been like, I'm going to grab a water real quick?
Ricks is crying.
Ricks is crying.
Have you lied yet and been like, I'm going to get a water or a Gatorade and then you actually
were getting something else?
Again, I think that's a hip of ice.
I think now we're crossing over into those waters.
But yeah, I have.
I figured, because there's just not enough time of the day for you to be.
The red velvet cookies are so good.
And I don't even know what red velvet is.
I don't know.
Good point.
Just kind of red dye in the cake.
What is that?
Red dye, I'm pretty sure it's chocolate.
But it's like a better kind of chocolate.
Yeah.
They got white chocolate cookies.
The chips in there?
Yeah.
Yeah, those are nice.
Something else that's really nice, truly.
Truly hard salsa.
They've been back in the Barstow Classic
for years now.
They're back for 2021.
They've got 16 refreshing styles and flavors.
There's something for everybody.
They've got the new fruit punch out,
which are awesome.
I don't know if you guys have had those yet.
Yeah.
Oh,
the new fruit punches are,
they're diabolical.
So truly is great.
They're great for the golf course.
They're refreshing.
They're great for being out on a boat again
because they're refreshing.
It's hot.
We're talking about Trent can't even survive outside.
So you need stuff that's refreshing.
Yep.
Truly does it.
They sent, they were nice enough.
They sent,
like a couple
I don't know
cases I don't know if that was the right word for it
but they were just
we have them around the house
put them in the refrigerator
Friday night
have a couple of them
they're fantastic
they really are yeah I do like that too
over other options
because like you said like
you just whip them out of the fridge
have one or two
and it's not like fill you up
or make you feel gride
it's like ooh
they're kind of like light and refreshing
it's seltzer with a little touch of booze in there
it's fantastic
they're just great and they got like I said
16 flavors so you're gonna find something
that you like
everybody's going to find something good.
Their wildberry has always been
one of my favorite blueberry assayees,
one of the ones that I've been on lately,
hard. So you might be at the beach,
you might be at a bar, you might be on the course,
wherever. Make sure you're drinking some truly hard seltzer
because they're great.
All right.
Behind the greens.
I'm going to throw that in there right now.
Behind the greens, Torrey Pines came out.
It's phenomenal.
Phenomenal.
Frankie goes, he goes hang gliding.
Yeah.
Jumped off a cliff.
Right.
Got way too close to that, Cliff.
Yeah.
There were some moments there where, first of all, I was surprised he did it in the first place.
Because I...
Well, he sent Ebug out there first, didn't he?
Ebug was kind of the test done.
I think he kind of did.
But Ebug didn't get a spot in the scene.
Yeah, it was all Frankie.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was surprised he did.
He got no shine.
He got all risk, no shine.
No.
No, but I mean, the shots that they got from out there were incredible.
Incredible.
Also, Riggs made a point, which I didn't even really think about until after, but the
drone shot of Frankie.
So instead of just a selfie, like,
stick camera view. Yeah. And then
Zoom. Yeah. Yeah. No, no problem. You can call it selfie stick
camera view if you want. That's fine.
From my point, I think that's probably best.
No, that's fair. And then I know what you mean.
The drone shot, though, of Frankie
in that, what is, the hang gliding, what are those things
called? Is it paragliding?
Paragliding, maybe? Maybe paragliding. Is that, I thought
specifically behind a boat.
Oh, maybe. That I don't know.
regardless. They know what you're talking about.
The drone shot of Frankie, right, that fact that we had all that going out at the same time,
and it was just him and eBug out there.
So those guys crushed it.
So go to our YouTube page if you have not yet and check out the behind the greens toward Pines because it's really, really good.
And you're going to be seeing, you know, this championship unfold for the next four days on this golf course.
And now you're going to know a lot about how it got to that point, what it took.
So big shout to Brendan and to Frankie because they crushed it.
storyline so it came out the pairings we actually were joking with Craig on on Tuesday show about
the pairings here at the US Open and it came out Tuesday from Brad Faxon on I think serious
PG-Tor radio or something like that that essentially the USGA reached out to Bryson's team
about pairing him with Brooks and that Bryson declined that was like literally what Brad Faxon said
everybody started quote tweeting this
you know report yep
clip from the radio and chirping
Bryson obviously calling him a bitch
calling him a coward whatever you want to say
and um so
I reached out to the USGA
it was just like is this true
and you know they ended up releasing a statement saying like
we did not reach out to
Bryson
Bryson's team reached put out a statement that said
we did not reach out to Bryson
a little bit like worded
probably in that like they didn't reach out to Bryce
and maybe they reached out to Bryce's team but
this did come from Brad Faxson
who if you don't know a lot about Brad Faxon
he put out in March
he was like I haven't talked
a lot of people looks like Brooks
probably going to be out like six to eight months
Brooks two weeks later was like at the
Masters tournament and a month later
was in the final group of the PGA championship
so that turned out to not be true
and then there are many people
at Metacomet
which is a former golf club, I believe it's in Rhode Island,
where Brad Faxson, like, grew up playing there.
In 2019, crazy article, if you haven't read this.
In 2019, he, like, spearheaded a group.
This course was going out of business, basically.
Like, they had 20030 members or something.
Donald Ross course.
He had come in in, like, 1920s, and, like, redone it turned into, like,
an awesome Donna Ross course, kind of, like, on the water and, like, this bay.
It was really cool.
And they had, like, 230 members, and it's known as, like, a really hardcore.
They had a bunch of single-digit handicaps, like a golfers, like, you know, members club.
But they're struggling in 2019 financially, so they were, like, kind of out of options,
and they were looking at different, and so they decided to put the club up for sale.
And a lot of them were, like, they really didn't want to turn it in, obviously, to, like,
real estate or, like, maybe they'd partner and do different things.
Well, Brad Faxson ended up coming in and, like, spearheading the whole thing with a couple other partners.
And they bought the course, the club, for, like, you know, $3 million.
A bunch of it was like debt and back payments.
It was like $750K that they paid for the course.
Well, you know, he'd come in and they were like,
oh yeah, Brad Faxon's our guy.
He knew everybody in town.
He knew a bunch of members.
He grew up playing there, all this stuff.
And they had these meetings being like,
this is what we're going to do with the club.
You know, it's going to be great.
Well, as things went through 2019,
the financials didn't look great.
They opened it to a little bit of public play
to kind of get through.
The members weren't crazy about it.
They're like, fine, we're trying to survive.
There have been like proposals.
They were going to put a couple condos
on like the 11th and 12.
holes and maybe reroute those holes, which the members were like,
that kind of sucks, but fine, we're trying to survive.
They had a meeting in like November of that year where they went over,
Brad Faxson and company went over like, this is kind of what we're doing and it's looking
good and we're going to do X, Y, and Z.
Everyone's like, great.
It was then announced a few months later that they had just completely resold the place,
we're building to a real estate development firm.
The course was effectively gone.
And they're basically flipping the entire investment.
So Brad Faxon, to these hundreds of people, they fucking despise them.
And I've gotten DMs from these people, emails from these people and such.
The Maya Comit course is gone.
Gone.
Wow.
The Metacomacomac.
Just called Metacomit.
Yeah.
So it's just gone.
So people, again, so, you know, so then when I see, my point is when I see then like reports
That's like,
calling into question, Brad Faxon's
A bit of his credibility.
We got our COVID test about the same time.
We walked into this place together.
Did you?
It's just, you know, yeah.
In fact, when you type it in,
it says,
Metacomic Golf Club, there's a red line on Wikipedia.
I've never seen that.
It just says permanently closed.
Everybody should type that in because I've never seen that.
You've ever seen a red line like that?
That's bad.
It's brutal.
A private club in East Providence, Rhode Island,
of the United States,
incorporated in 1901,
2020, they just
sold, gone, they're building developments
on it, and it's over.
Isn't insane?
It's crazy.
Insane, the whole story.
And then Brad, they ended up,
the reason it kind of made, you know,
national news,
and I was able to look a bunch of this stuff up yesterday
and people started DM me,
was that, you know, the club members
sued Brad Fax at a company
for fraud, you know,
and like,
misleading.
And there's like, apparently it's very common in these types of deals to do, and now
we're just turned into, we're just roasting Brad Faxon, which I didn't, I didn't think we were
going to do that.
Well, you kind of do.
I'm going down the story.
A little bit, I guess.
But we're just going down the story that there's typically in a lot of these kinds of deals,
there's like a clause, like a legal clause in the documents when it's originally sold at the
point when Brad Faxon and his crew took it over, where it would be like, you know, no changes
to the golf club are able to be made like.
until this date, which is usually far off in the future.
And I guess that that clause was like mysteriously removed.
Removed.
And then there's like he said, she said stuff.
Right.
Before of like, yeah, no, they like on the 11th hour were like, yeah, no, that needs to come out.
And so that that makes people believe it was like premeditated.
Like, oh, yeah, here's what we're going to do.
Oh, my God.
Which is like brutal.
Brutal.
Because sometimes in those clubs you buy in and you have like ownership equity in those clubs.
Right.
Other times, and it sounds like this was the case where you're basically just paying a rental fee every year to use the property.
And if the club, whoever, you know, the lead of it is, in this case it happens to be Brad faxing group, they just can take complete control of it.
Right.
And then you're just shit out of luck.
Sucks.
And again, they were like, you know, what sucks in reading the stories and anybody can just Google this and read like all the details.
I think it was digest, you know, did like a really detailed piece on it.
And you can read a lot of the testimony of the members where they're like, you know, like, yeah, we kind of got swindled because like when we learned that it was Brad Faxson, we were like, oh, this is our guy.
Right.
This is.
Totally.
We're like, all right.
Brad, like, lead us.
Like, whatever he wants here.
This is great.
He's like, the man.
He's Brad Faxon.
And then he just flipped it and we're like, fuck you.
And it's like over.
And there's even quotes.
I have a deeper question.
There's quotes from Brad Faxon after the fact when he was getting sued where he says like, yeah, we didn't get into this.
investment for charity. This was like, this is business and stuff. And I was reading that. It's
cringeworthy. Oh, my God. And I have a question of, was this the place that Brad grew up playing
golf as a youngster? Yeah. Because if so, that's the sickest. Like, you've had all the success in the game
of golf. Crazy success. Unparalleled. And then you just go home and destroy those very golf course that you were a
boy on playing the game. Look at this headline from Golf Digest. It says Brad Faxon saved his childhood
club. Members are now suing him for fraud, the curious case of
Metacomic Golf Club.
I mean, based on this, Brad Faxon might win the PIP Award.
There's a lot to learn about it.
It's what I laid in my bed and read about.
Look how sweet this place looks.
It's gone.
Now there's a house.
There's a condo in that green.
There's like a fucking concrete foundation in that hole that we just looked at right
there on this computer screen.
Look at this place.
It looks awesome.
Donald Ross.
Wow.
Who knew?
Oh, look at these holes in the water.
So all the metacomicon.
folks out there who
who you know
we're reaching out if some of them
listen to this you know
this is not a Brad Faxon Slander
podcast no but this
segment kind of was so
anyways when Brad Faxon
way to bring it home here comes to bring it home
statement yeah you like this
the original point let's finish out
fill out the circle here when Brad Faxon
is the source
of like yeah the USGA reached
out and Bryson declined and then
everyone's clinging to Bryson decline that I'm
like the only person that's coming from is Brad Faxson, I was just a little hesitant to be like,
oh yeah, that's the most trustworthy guy on the internet.
Right.
I mean, as you should.
It's also a rumor that you know Brad Faxon knows is going to just.
Quick bait.
It's going to blow up.
Right.
Because all the talk around golf has been about Brooks and Bryce in these last couple months
and how people are dying for the USGA to pair them together Thursday and Friday.
That's everybody.
We didn't want that because we, we get.
gave our reasons and whatever, but the overwhelming opinion was like, put these two guys together,
it'll be fireworks.
So then, you know, right before the pairings come out or right after the pairings come out,
you just float something that says, oh, they tried to do this.
But Bryson said no.
And it's, it's, it got to the point where it's almost, it's too unbelievable to believe.
Like, you don't think that Bryson would actually do that.
I don't think so.
Like if we, if you ask me, do you think that Bryson was contacted and then he said, no,
I don't want to be paired with Brooks?
I think that's insane.
I do too.
And good for Riggs for kind of batten an eye and be like, I don't know about this story.
Like, I don't know if this is believable right out of the gate.
It was because I had, I remembered the Brooks Kepka thing.
Because when he said that it was like March 23rd because I went and today when I saw that,
I was my immediate radar went up of like, yeah, the facts in lately.
I don't know.
And so, and the metacomments come back.
But I went, I was like, my, I just popped up.
And I was like, I want to make sure I had my facts right.
And it was like, I believe it was March 23rd.
that his comment was like, yeah, I think this Brooks-Skeptaker injury is more serious
than people leading on.
I've been talking a lot of people around the area, which, you know, I know a lot of people
that he's seen and really wouldn't be surprised if this kind of injury is.
He'll be out like six to eight months.
And literally two weeks later, he was playing in the Masters.
And a month later, he almost won the PGA championship.
So I was like, I don't know that he's particularly, you know, plugged in,
plugged in or like just accurate or trustworthy.
And then when I tweeted that,
about, I was like, I'm not a hundred percent of course of tweeted that this morning.
Then I started getting messages from people that were like, go look up what he did to us and
fucking met a comment.
You'll realize he's not trustworthy.
And I was like, oh shit.
I just can't believe, like going, doing that another course or whatever, making financial
decisions, not like, not great, not advised, people are going to hate you for it.
Going back to like your hometown course or the course that you kind of fell in love with the game
of golf at and just burning it to the ground and putting condos all over it.
That's hard.
It's psychotic.
I mean, I associate kind of like learning the game of golf at Granite Links.
Up in Boston is where we all started to play.
Loved it.
And just the thought of me, like, I'm going to buy this place, turn it over, and then just put condos
up and down because there's great views.
I'm going to make money on it.
It's like, you suck.
His quote.
Look at this quote.
I looked it up.
We weren't doing this out of the goodness of our hearts.
Some people think because people were successful or have money, they should do it out of charity.
We came in as businessmen.
This was a club that was bleeding for 15 years.
That was his reaction in an interview after he was being sued.
To the people of his home death.
That's crazy.
Trent's got a face like he just saw it goes.
No, it's just a lot because I didn't know about that story.
I feel like a lot of people don't.
I didn't know about it either.
And they do, in this piece, they go through a lot of what Brad Faxson has done for charity over the years and stuff.
So clearly they're not trying to paint him just as this horrific guy.
But in this case, when I looked at that story, it's interesting to know that that that
There are like a couple hundred people that were members of Metacomet
who had been members there forever.
And they put in the kind of anecdotes of some of the,
one of the members I think was like 87 and was like,
what is the kind of you going to join a new club now?
He's 87.
Like that's literally his club.
That's who he plays with every day.
It's where he gets dinner or whatever.
And that place is just gone.
It's fucking condos now.
And so the whole thing,
just put a bad taste in my mouth.
So back to the original,
the Bryson point.
Does anyone on this podcast think that there's any shred of truth?
to what has been said.
The only reason I kind of,
A, it's like, the initial reaction is like,
why would the USDA need anybody's approval?
Like, the USDA doesn't ask people
if they should be paired together or not.
Right.
The only thing that would make it a little different
is that he is their current champion.
Yeah.
So, like, USGA currently has a very tight relationship
with Bryson.
Like they're talking about, you know,
returning the trophy, doing media obligations,
what his week's going to look like
is the defending champion.
So they're like very in contact with Bryson and with Brooks because he's won two of the last four U.S. Open.
So like those things if they were just totally and it is a very big story.
Yeah.
So like that is the only reason that made me think like maybe they would feel it out a little bit before they did it.
But again like hearing from them and some of those statements that have been released like I just don't you know I think like.
Faxson could have heard that like there were whispers and maybe, you know, Bryson's agent had been like telling people behind the scenes like, yeah, we're not like in love with that.
And he went and ran with like Bryson declined to the USGA.
So like that, that seems more likely to me.
Yeah.
Then something like that.
I don't think it's like out of the realm of possibility that they could have floated it before they did it just because he's their champion.
Yeah.
I mean, it feels like based on, you know, our guy Brad here, that, you know, you know,
You could have overheard like a dinner conversation of like, would you even like consider playing with Brooks, you know, on like on day one?
Like, would you like that?
You know, I'd rather play with someone else if I could, but like whatever.
I also think that with Pip and with both of them being kind of like grow the game guys to a certain point and thinking this storyline is good for golf.
Like I bet you they would be open to it.
Yeah.
I like, I really don't think that there is much of anything backing Brad's story.
and I certainly don't think the USGA reached out on any official level.
I agree with that.
And I think a big part of that is what we've been saying the whole time
where they know as well as we know that when they meet on that first tee,
they're just going to play golf.
Right.
They're going to tee it up and they're going to play golf.
It's going to be fine.
I don't think either one of them really cares that much once they's tee off.
It's like, you know, like if Bryson hits one into the left rough
and Brooks is in the fairway is Bryson now rattled for the –
no, he's like, I'm in the left rough.
Here's my option.
He's just, they're just playing golf.
The only thing that Brooks could get upset,
like if the pace of play gets outrageous or something like that,
that would be some in the moment thing that would maybe frustrate him.
Yeah.
But US Open and with everything going on,
like if they play together,
I think they'd just be so both dialed in to executing and like,
again,
beating the other individual that I don't think really would become an issue.
And it would be incredible.
The only thing that might escalate it is,
is the crowd.
Because then all of the bruceing.
All of the Brooksie stuff gets magnified
where in the past,
and recently it's been,
Bryson's just out on the course somewhere,
Brooks is out somewhere,
but there are Brooks people around Bryson saying Brooksie.
That gets,
like I said,
magnified if they're playing together.
But even so,
I don't think it gets too crazy.
Yeah, I agree with that.
100%.
I mean,
it would never happen,
but like on a T-box
if somebody said like,
oh, good shot,
good rip there,
Brooksie or something like that to Bryson.
It would be cool in my eyes.
if Brooks was like, dude, just chill out.
Like, you know, let's go play this game.
But he would, I don't think he would ever do that.
No.
And, yeah, I think it would be fans more than it would be the two of them.
Yeah, totally.
I think either one of them would really care.
But you're right.
Like, if everyone's Brooksie and chirping, I could see Bryson get a little flustered.
But I doubt that the whole thing is real as facts and try to report it.
We'll be out there.
So we'll be hearing if there's any Brooksies to Bryson or anything.
We'll be listening.
We will be listening.
I will say, you know, Brooks, Brooks is,
commented on whether it's good or bad.
He said the fact that golfs
on pretty much every news outlet for about two weeks
pretty consistently, I think that's a good thing.
It's growing the game.
You know, the younger generation, I get to traditionalists who don't
agree with it. I understand that, but I think to grow the game,
you've got to reach out to the younger generation.
I think that's what, I don't want to say that's what this is,
but it's reaching out to a whole bunch of people.
It's getting golf in front of people.
I think that's 100% correct.
Totally.
You know, I saw some folks being like, you know,
I don't know who it was, but it might be a lot.
it was, oh, I think it was David Duvall
who said, yeah, it's reaching new people,
but is it the kind of people you want to reach,
is what he said, which I was like, yeah, it is.
Like, you just want to reach new people.
That is an exhausting point of view.
And I agree with what Brooks is saying there.
I would maybe say that he stumbled upon that explanation.
Like when this whole first thing started,
I don't think he was thinking the back of his head,
like, I'm trying to grow the game of golf here.
I think he's thinking,
I'm going to turn the screws on this.
guy and I know that people will go out there and they'll call him Brooksie and that'll freak him
out because I do think there's a very real part of Brooks that doesn't like Bryson just
totally agree you know what I mean as a general idea and what he represents but I don't think
Brooks went into originally thinking what he says in that quote no and I don't think that'd be
even fair to ask him to like be that strategic about his decisions like I'd rather to be more
transparent in the way it is and then him realizing at the end of the day
that it has reached so many more eyes.
Like golf is in front of so many more people.
Like that outcome is tremendous.
And then Duval coming in with like, is that the right?
It's like you're the wrong person.
Like we need less of that answer.
Like get it to everybody.
See golf.
See the players.
Promote the players.
Promote that people don't like each other that we talk about of just like there is
going to be some frustrations with individuals.
Let that play out.
Let those storylines run.
and then I think the whole game grows because of that
because personalities and teams are like what people follow.
Look, like this has got Dave Portnoy talking about it.
Dave's tweeting about it, right?
Like, he could tweet about anything and it matters.
He takes a stock and starts tweeting about it.
It goes up and down.
Like, he picks a sport and starts tweeting about it.
And like that team and their odds flip from underdog to like, you know.
And so now you've got him, his choosing of his bandwidth of stuff to like care
and Tueba.
Right.
This has been at the top on many days when the, when the fireworks are kind of flying.
And that's a good thing.
And, you know, is it immediately forcing people to be like, I'm going to go buy a set of
clubs and definitely play golf now?
No.
But like, is that how you grow golf?
No.
There's nothing that would get people to just go do that except the pandemic, which is a
horrible thing.
But like that can get numbers up.
Sure.
But in terms of like getting eyeballs ears, interest on the game, this is undoubtedly helping.
It's going to make people tune in to the U.S.
open and it's going to make people tune in when these names end up on the leaderboard,
and that's a good thing, gets them interested in the game.
Gary Woodland said, I think it would have been great if they got paired together.
I think the fans, all my friends back home, everybody was talking about it.
I think it's good for the game.
Brooks didn't play for two weeks, and he's been all over ESPN, all over the sports news.
I think that's good.
So just kind of reiterating the same stuff.
Woodland, Kansas guy, one of the good people from Kansas.
You know, we spoke to some people, one of the good guys from Kansas.
And Bryson took the growing the game.
He took that opinion as well, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
He said very similar stuff of like, I think it's good.
It doesn't bother me, no.
He's like, it's good.
It's a good thing for the game.
I enjoy it.
So he's taking that road as well.
So I think everybody's kind of going there.
A point that you made that's a very important trend is that like that the original video that really kicked all this off was a from a genuine place.
Yeah.
That was Brooks Kepka literally could not do an interview because he was so discreet.
dusted by Bryce and de Chambos' antics just walking by him.
Right.
And muttering to himself and making a preposterous amount of noise, which, by the way, those
Puma shoes, they do make an amazing amount of noise.
We've seen just a few other golfers walking around.
And the only people, I think, that make that much noise when they walk by are the guys
rocking Puma.
It could be very true.
Yeah.
Right?
Yes.
Like, it's been crazy.
That's true.
Yeah.
So I kind of, I'm a little bit more siding with him in that case where it was like,
Not his fault.
They're so loud when they walk by on the concrete.
It's amazing.
You're like, what the fuck is that?
But that was so real.
Right.
And that's the real catalyst for this whole thing.
Because if we weren't sure or we were kind of sure that it was all fake and that they just were, you know, we talk about PIP a lot or whatever.
But just trying to grow the game and trying to get more interest, people would just be like, bleh.
But if you get genuine dislike and disdain one guy to another, that makes people tune.
Well, whoever released that video is like the shining stallor, honestly, of all this.
Because, like, it's almost like diversifying the brand of golf.
And that's a lot of words put together.
But you think of, like, golf, you think of just like...
There's not that many words.
No, but...
There's a big one.
There's a big one.
Yeah, diversify.
Exactly.
But anyways, you think of golf, you think of like the PGA, USGA, you think of, like, these overarching
brands, but you don't think of personalities as much outside of, like, the top players.
And so I think if they do continue to provide...
promote all these players.
Like you eventually side like, oh, I really like Bryce and I really like Brooks.
And then it starts to go into like other pockets.
And I think that only helps people get behind certain players, be more interested
to them.
Hey, maybe I'll give the game of golf a try.
Like he does it.
She does it.
Let's give it a whack.
And so, no, I think it's a net positive.
I think we need to do more up.
And look, are they clearly leveraging that genuine dislike to try to earn more
PIP points?
Obviously.
Oh, yeah.
Like clearly it'll probably end up in some one-on-one made-for-TV match or whatever it is.
It's not lost on us that that is an aspect of amplifying the whole thing,
but it comes from a very real place.
And it did years ago when they were hating each other at Liberty National,
I think it was when it was like Bryson playing slow.
And Brooks wanted to like,
they almost fought.
They were talking about like fighting each other.
They literally were talking about fighting each other.
Right.
On the putting green,
didn't he say like have them come up and talk to my face or something?
It was great.
Yeah.
And then like one of them, you know,
Brooks ended up just tweeting.
a picture of all four of his major trophies at him.
Right.
About his abs.
And that was crazy.
Like, Bryson was doing a live stream with when he was like, well, he doesn't even, his body's
isn't even that good.
He doesn't even have abs or something.
Like, this is literally what they've been saying to each other for years.
Yeah, it really has been a long time.
Yeah, it's been years.
It's been years.
Also feels like it's been years since things have been open.
Summer's been on the horizon, but we're there.
We've been dreaming up trips to the beach.
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Correct.
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Tiger Woods
Tiger Woods video emerges
About 15 second video of him
In L.A.
Don't know what he's doing there
On crutches
But walking a little bit
Moving himself
Putting a little bit of weight on that
Yeah a little bit of weight
Was put on that right leg
Did he get his first operation in L.A. though?
Yeah
Okay, so probably going to see those original doctors
That's what I thought
Yeah
Kind of a little checkup
You know I think it was reported
By like Tiger Woods Legion
So I don't know how
I think that's probably pretty arrogant
You guys seems to be all over the case
Always
but reported that he was there for like less than 24 hours.
Okay.
So it might have just been a quick checkup with the doctors.
Yep.
But then again, he's pretty injured guy.
So it's got to be a pretty serious deal if he's flying.
Then again, him flying.
Like he just.
PJs.
I mean, yeah, he gets on.
Good to the office.
He might have a carrier jet.
Right to the fucking.
He doesn't.
I hope it's on him driving.
If he doesn't want to, he doesn't have to see anybody he doesn't want to see.
No.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, like we go to the airport and it's like, like, I got to like,
take a deep breath before I walk into an airport because I just know what's about to happen where
I'm going to be poked and prodded and I got to press buttons and I got to talk and I got to
put tags on my bag and I got to walk through security and I got to hopefully find you know a coffee
place that I like and it's just it's really a sensory overload that I'm just like but but that's
just like a pretty normal standard airport visit where tiger's just like I get in a car one guy
drives me there I get in a plane another person flies me there and it's just that the whole time so
what we're saying is it's not that big of
trip. No, it's not. I mean, I'm sure
whatever, you know, the way he travels
is elegant. The way we travel
in elegant. Yes, exactly.
I will say, he had a little
kind of like Johnny Depp facial hair going on.
It was a little scruffy. It was.
What did you think of that? I was fine with it.
Guy that's been kind of relaxing
and also probably in a lot of pain
and rehabilitating himself and just
facial hair, he's been inside a lot.
Yeah, it seems when he is inside a lot, he just likes to grow facial hair.
Because I think that first picture of him
What picture was that?
Where he, like, oh, like a Champions Dinner Night
when the Masters wasn't actually taking place.
And he had like a nice beard going on.
When he was kind of given a mean mug to whoever took the photo there,
he was like standing next to a cart.
No, no, no, I'm talking about a picture that he took with his family.
Oh, okay.
The dogs were in it.
You know what I mean?
I could be misremembering, but I think that was a first pick.
During the quarantine last year.
Yes.
And he had like more facial hair than we were prepared for.
And I do think when he's just at home,
he's like, I'm going to grow this out.
Why not?
Yeah.
I mean, I can talk.
I mean, relax a little bit.
Every step of his life up into this point,
he's been in the front facing every camera.
Might be tough for him to shave too.
Like, he's got to stand there.
He can't stand.
So now he's leaning and it's like uncomfortable
and he might fall over it because his leg doesn't work.
That's a good point.
I'm thinking he's got some like floating chair through his bathroom.
He's not Yoda.
Right, I know.
But like, you know those shower seats that come down
that he can sit in the seat.
I'm thinking that he's got something like that near the sink.
I also think if he wants that beard hair off, it's coming off,
whether he's doing it or he just hires someone to do it.
But then again, you would also have thought, like,
if he wouldn't drive himself anywhere.
Like, you know, I think he likes to take, like, he likes to do stuff.
That's fair.
So maybe he's like, I don't know that he would get to a point of him being like,
hey, shavent's kind of a pain of the ass.
Like, you're going to shave me today?
Like, I don't know.
I mean, yeah, it might just be like when Letterman was done with his,
show he was like I'm just doing a beard yeah that's been a big old beard yeah exactly you feel you feel free
yeah I mean certainly could be it all in all I think that's a positive video me too totally
him outside us seen him rigs made a point today they didn't have said his leg I mean all positive
it was touch you go there for a nine hundred percent and I go that's a tough thing to argue it he could have
easily been wheelchared out of that thing today and I wouldn't have been stunned you know I mean
instead he was like he was able to get from a
door to a car on his own.
Yeah. That's great.
What did you tweet out? Is he coming to play in the open?
Yeah, I mean, coincidence?
He's got an unbelievable record at Torrey Pines and he just appears in Southern California
days before the tournament.
You and I had a very serious conversation at the golf course about whether or not we think
Tiger Woods is going to show up to Tori.
You have me convinced, I think.
Just as like, obviously not to play, but just as like the last time it was here, it was a very
big deal. Tiger was very involved. He's in California, clearly. I thought maybe, in my head.
What way would he show up in one of these like Navy helicopters that we see? Who knows? I didn't work out the
details. But I'm just saying like flying over like George W. Bush and Katrina. No, I know. I know.
I didn't, again, I didn't work out the details. I'm just saying like, I got like a little, just looking at
like butterflies in my stomach seeing him being California and, and Torrey Pines taking place. And I've
sell the history with him here.
Like, I just thought maybe.
It was a conversation I wanted to have it.
You had me convinced because like you said, he's got
such ties. He's from Southern California.
He's won at Torrey Pines like a billion times.
The 2008 win
has been amplified even more because of,
they put a plaque out there today.
How much it meant to him to play in that tournament
that he played it with a broken leg and a torn ACL
and then won the thing that you had me kind of convinced
that like he might just appear
on site. Now, would they treat him like a president that goes to like the Army Navy game?
Like, what would they treat him like? How would he, he can't just crutch around the thing.
Like, I don't know what he would do. It'd be a scene. That's all I know.
He's got to be elevated. He can't have him in a cart. He's got to be elevated.
He's got to hover. But the clubhouse here like stinks. So it's not like you can get him. Get like a golf cart version of the Potemobile.
Yeah. That'd be awesome. With the bulletproof glass around him. He's just waving at people.
That'd be pretty amazing. I would love. A golf.
golf cart that looks like the
Popemobile, Tiger Woods,
driving around Torrey Pines,
that's a magic moment.
Dude in a red shirt.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe even just like a red T.
This is absurd.
I love it.
But it'd be amazing.
It would be amazing.
I think if there were still no fans,
there'd be a good chance he would show up.
No, you can't do it no fans.
And it's weird.
Now he's going to get people cheering and look.
People are trying to win nuts.
No, but they got to look up at.
I'm like, they do the poker.
Right.
Yeah.
I agree with that wholeheartedly.
If he's like,
if you're looking down.
to the golf cart as he's driving by it's like this is a this is not right he needs to be up he needs
to be elevated and they're almost yeah but it needs to be like red flags yeah sort of like people need
to be throwing roses at it yes and if he's in that situation they could almost kind of do what they did
with fDR for years they prop him up you can't even tell he's injured right where he's like sitting in this
throne thing he doesn't need the crutches and the whole mobile moves on its own and it's like he's back
he's just like conquered dory by it feels like kind of a miss if they don't do this you know
You said something interesting that I didn't know before.
You said that he was only there for 24 hours.
I saw that again from the T.W. Spot account.
Okay.
So. Didn't we claim that was Trent years back?
Well, I had a little bit of fun with it.
The guy took it very personal.
I know, which I, yeah, we were laughing about it.
But I wanted, but he never revealed his identity ever.
So I just wanted to claim that it was me to then force him to be like.
Which was a fun joke we did.
Yeah, it was.
But he ended up demanding an apology from Frankie.
And he got one.
Oh, wow.
He just tweeted relentlessly for days being like this.
You're ruining my reputation.
Yeah, he said, yeah, that's right.
I'm sorry to you out there.
No, he said we were ruining his reputation.
And Frankie specifically, he made Frankie apologize.
And Frankie delivered a very hardfell apology.
I do trust that account, though, when I see it now.
Totally.
That's why I brought it up on the show.
Yeah.
Because I only bring up things that have been vetted vigorously.
Right.
Yeah.
We don't want another Brad Faxley.
No, no.
Segment on our hands.
No, no.
went out on my watch.
It was funny.
The day that you tweeted that out, we then saw him next to the putting green.
His cart was parked right next to the putting green.
We were standing in front.
Yes.
Yes.
I thought, so we were standing in front of a cart, just a random cart, next to the putting green.
Brad Faxson rolls up, gets into the cart, and I was like, he's going to run Riggs over.
He did he literally, if you would have just floored the cart, it would have just ran me over and he would have eliminated me right there at the putting.
How close did he stop him?
Did you look at him a little weird?
No, it wasn't a stop.
He, like, slid into the cart.
If this is the front of the card, sorry for the listeners.
This is me.
That's Riggs barstool.
Huge.
And we're gigantic in this scenario.
And the putting greens right here, we're yucking it up, trying to get stuff.
And then Brad Faxon just do, do, do, do, do walks.
And then we had to move.
Yeah, we literally, like, Riggs was probably leaning on it at some point.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
So, if he's my car, you got to move.
We just, context clues.
We were like, oh, this guy's getting in.
We got to get out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I might have even, like, rested my right.
leg on it at one point.
Yeah.
And this was after you tweeted out.
You know, hours later.
Yeah.
And he had also, there's, you know, there's certain like areas where people congregate.
He had been in our shared area and we had been watching him interact with some other people.
And a notable name, especially to this show who we're not going to mention, is reported that from someone that could see over my shoulder that he had gone up to him and like Brad Faxx had tried to like fist bump and even shake the hand of this person and this person like declined and that it looked a little.
bit contentious.
Well, if you decline a fist bump, I mean, I would say,
fighting words.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, if you're not even going to agree to a bump.
Right in front of your face, a point-like bump?
There's beef.
There's big beef.
That's beef.
Oh, yeah.
So things were, like, we knew we were all both in the same vicinity.
I'm sure you know how you can kind of like sense.
Like, I knew I tweeted about him and he's around and we're all around.
And then he gets on a card and me and trying to understand right there was a little bit
dicey for a second.
It was.
And then we were like, oh, we were talking to the, um, the Auburn kid.
What's his name?
Do you remember his name?
No.
Hold on.
I texted it earlier.
He's great.
Him and his crew were going to Pinehurst next week.
So they came over and were chat with us.
And we were doing kind of the-
Andrew Kozin,
qualified,
who I think graduated from Auburn,
like last year,
we were playing in the U.S. Open.
Playing the U.S. Open.
So we were chat with him and his caddy and his boys.
And we like had,
they were on like one side of the fence,
the player's side,
we were on the other side,
and then Faxon's cart was right there.
So we kind of had a little bit of a posse
And then it was a little bit awkward
Or it was like in order for him to clear his cart
Which is also kind of like
A little bit of a he's like an elitist in this
So he has like a car
It's a good representation of what's going on
We're just like the common folk standing there
And he's like going to run over the common folk with this cart
He's got a couple facts and interactions today
You shared a lot of mutual space
We did
We did
And then we just buried him on the podcast today
So who knows what things are.
I just didn't see it coming
I like I knew about the Brooks thing
And how he'd been on
off on some of that.
And then Medicomicom it comes up and I'm like, what's going on here?
And then we just talked about it for 25 minutes.
Right.
I looked at Brad Faxson and I walked in the other day.
We're both getting COVID shots.
No big deal.
COVID tests.
COVID tests.
Thank you.
And anyways.
It would be weird if you got a shot again.
Right.
It would be very weird.
We got our COVID test.
And we're walking together and, you know, that's Brad Faxson.
And now hearing all this.
I'm like, totally.
Look, I'm not saying Brad Faxon's a terrible person.
I'm just, I legit just made some missteps.
I reported a story.
Right.
And I would say based on that story.
I would say he made some missteps in his life.
Yeah, and, you know, we all have.
Right.
So who knows, you know, what else you can judge the guy by eight times he's won on the PGA tour.
And regarded as one of the great putters of all the time.
I have used some of his tips.
Yeah, I've used some of his putting tips in, you know, like trying to work on my putting stroke and such.
So Brad Faxon is, you know, he's Brad Faxon.
He's got kind of a legendary status and career, especially in today's game.
They just don't love him and that a comment.
Okay.
Talk about the tournament real quick.
Oh, we can go green reading books.
Green reading books, it looks like are going to be banned.
I don't know what the official announcement was on that.
I don't think there's one yet,
but there's, like, reports that the tour is about to announce
that green reading books are going to be banned.
Roy McElroy said, I'd like to get rid of them,
who noted that he uses green reading books.
I think everyone is in the same boat.
Most guys in tour are in the same boat that if it's going to be available to us
and it helps us, people are going to use it.
but I think for the greater good of the game,
I'd like to see them be outlawed.
I believe we've been on this side for years.
Yeah.
I mean, they're ridiculous.
Ridiculous.
They're ridiculous.
The fact that those are allowed is ridiculous.
It's just, there's, it's going to pick up the pace and play.
It's just looking at that thing all day, matching sprinkled heads,
looking at breaks is just ridiculous.
It's a skill of the game to be able to read Greens.
It is a legitimate skill of the game,
just like, it's no different of like,
if you just had a wind reading device over every shot,
that would be the same thing.
Like,
you're supposed to judge the wind
and how it's affecting your shot
and then hit, you know, the ball.
Whereas, like,
if you just stood there with the device
that told you everything,
it's almost like you're just playing Tiger Woods 2006
or you just pull the joystick back and straight.
Like, that's not what I was thinking, actually.
The two things that you just mentioned are in video games.
It's when you stand over it that you say like,
oh, it's going 11 miles per hour to the left,
left to right or whatever.
And then you get on the green and there's all these beads.
You can see all these beads
And it's like, oh, so these guys are just kind of playing
With these video game green reading books
It's just, yeah, right, after they putted on them all week
Right
To get prepped and ready for it's not like the green is changing at all
You know, they know where the pins are about roughly going to be
And they can put to them, they can figure it out
And to have a green reading book on top of that is absolutely outrageous
So I'm super pro and I think we're all super pro
That that's going to be what
Another, yeah, a similar kind of taste
is and to kind of relate it to what Rory said about like, yeah, I use it, but like if it's available,
I got to use it.
Same deal that Zander was talking about because Zander, I think at the PGA, maybe it was brought up or maybe shortly afterwards,
that he's, you know, using one of those putters that essentially like anchors, if you will,
against like your forearm.
Dangerous word.
And it is a dangerous word.
I'm going to use that on purpose.
I think they should fucking get rid of that shit.
But he was asked about it and said, yeah, I think they should get rid of that, but they haven't.
and other people are using it
and they're just putting better
so why the fuck would not use it?
I have to use it.
Take the advantage of the same kind of situation
with Rory where he's just like
no I use the books because this book
just tells me how it's going to break
but I don't think they should be allowed
and I think that's probably where most people feel.
The fact that like you can hit the ball on the green
have putted there all week and prep
for obviously this tournament
and then on top of that you're like
locating the ball on the green to your book
and then picking out the spot
and be like, oh, no, breaks this much is just the wrong thing.
It's just stupid.
It's just genuinely stupid.
John Rom.
So I want to talk a little bit about just kind of the tournament and who we like.
And I just got to say, like, I don't think I've seen a single analyst yet that hasn't convinced me that John Rom already has a tournament locked up.
People are loving him.
Loving him.
I don't really even understand why.
Like, I know that he's, but I just don't understand why he's.
so above and beyond everybody else.
I mean,
it's a little bit emotional
because they're even, you know,
when they're bringing in the fact that he got like engaged
on property, you're like,
all right,
that doesn't have any to do with his,
with his fucking golf game.
No, but he's got good vibes here.
As long as,
and I hope that their marriage is going well,
I think they have a kid now,
so I think it sounds like things are going on.
Right.
But as long as everything's going,
then it feels like he's got good vibes
coming into the property.
Look, we're in fucking San Diego.
It's 75 and sunny, and you're looking at the ocean.
Everybody has good vibes here.
And it'd be a good story with everything that's been going on with him.
Yeah.
It'd be just like, wow, what a turnaround and what like a couple weeks it's been for John Robb.
Now, I should say, I sound like I'm playing Devils Advocke here.
I'm like, I'm very convinced now that he's just going to win the tournament.
Right, I have him to win.
Yeah, you'd be crazy and not to at this point.
He's the favorite, yeah?
Oh, yeah.
10 to 1.
Which is crazy.
Parswell sports book.
That's like getting close to.
you know, Tiger numbers back in the day.
I mean, Tiger was a pick-em,
but I mean, even when Tiger was in that area
where he was like, when he wasn't totally dominant Tiger,
but he was still the favorite all the time,
you know, he was like seven, eight to one, I feel like.
And, I mean, he's 10 to 1 at a major.
I don't feel like we've seen someone that's been like single digits
to one at a major and a while.
And he's 10 to 1?
That's pretty fucking cool.
Yeah, it just doesn't seem like there's enough value there.
But, yeah, I mean, people are picking them.
I'm picking them.
I think there's something in the air.
And maybe it's...
Oh, you're drinking the Kool-A.
I am.
I'm full of more.
Yeah, no, I'm a believer that Rom's going to win this thing.
DJ's 15 to 1.
DeCambeau's 16 to 1.
Brooks 18-1.
Rory 18-1.
Routing for a Brooks, Bryson, obviously.
Both of them plays, you know, well.
Be in that.
It's almost boosting both of their fandoms now,
because it's like you want both of them to play.
well so that you get a storyline where they clash.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Because I once claimed on a Varsal rundown that I thought Bryson had less than five fans.
Because just because like genuine.
That's a gut punch.
No, but I, but like, you know, there's not like maybe there are now with what you're saying.
It feels like a malicious comment.
No, no, no.
I mean five five.
Okay.
All right.
It was hyperbole.
Okay.
As we're off to do.
But I'm just saying.
Oh, well, we do.
I'm just saying like there's not many
not that I know of like
like we were talking about Bryson shirts this is when
it originally came up where it's like we
I was thinking about making like the Hulk shirt
where you start to it's normal and then when you sweat
he becomes the Hulk whatever but I was like
how many those are we going to sell
I feel like it's there's just not many people
who like want to have Bryson on their chest
right and we decided to not even make the shirts
because we didn't think anybody would buy them
right and that's what I mean
well we were worried about the technology out there
originally and then a little bit found out to be true
I got flooded with DMs from people being like,
that is a real thing that you could do.
Right.
But then it came down to, yeah,
I don't think many people are going to buy that shirt.
The sweat technology.
The sweat technology to turn it into something different.
But I don't know how I,
why did we get on the topic of me saying.
Five fans?
Yeah.
Well, I don't know why I said that.
Who knows?
Oh, we're talking about,
I just said that both their fandoms rise.
Oh, yeah.
Because if they both play well.
Whereas like, but they've got a little bit of Harry Potter going on
where it's like,
neither can live while the other survives,
which is if Bryson plays really well but Brooks doesn't then everyone's like oh well fuck that I'm not rooting for that or if Brooks plays really well bruce like you're not necessarily going to be like oh all right let's go Brooks now whereas if they both play well you're kind of rooting for both of them because you want them to be there at the end it's a good point yeah so it's a little it's an interesting scenario so you guys are both fully rom fully rom anybody else you know you got your eye on yeah Xander okay Zander Scotty Sheffler ooh he's had a
good like he's kind of had a little smirk on him all week very much also the guys like we were talking
about this leaving the range the guys that have just been grinding out there like henrik stenson
has been out there for all too long yeah it just feels like he's just working trying to find
something that's not there we saw another individual i don't know you know matt wolf didn't
seem so positive on it um and just saying golf's hard but you see these guys i love matt wolf by
the way he's tremendous dude just catching up with him was awesome and like he's clearly said like
You know, like not everybody goes through the best times all the time.
And we're traveling with him.
He's just such an open book and like such a cool young normal dude that like, no, do I think he's going to play great this week?
No.
Man, I'm rooting for that guy.
He's awesome.
100%.
And he's, yeah, he stayed with us for like five minutes just chatting about nothing.
And he's a good, younghearted kid that's going to, he's got an outrageous amount of talent.
Yeah, he does.
Like he's going to go ups and downs.
But anyways, you see these guys like Stenson was one.
He was on the range for way too long.
And it's just like a guy to go up there.
Every time I've looked at the range, Stenson's on the range.
He's just going to grind it out, try to find his swing,
and I bet you he's going to shoot six over and miss the cut.
The only thing that I would say at Keowa,
Frankie and I, we witnessed Phil Nicholson do the same thing.
Oh, really?
Grind.
This is amazing that you guys have told me that.
Grind.
Almost to the point where we thought he looked a little lost.
You guys have said the word.
Just kind of like he was out there.
Is it a Bet Stenson play?
I'm just saying to maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
Get on the virtual sports book.
That is kind of what I'm saying.
Take Stenson.
If you can find a top 20 finish.
If you would ask Frankie and I how we thought Phil Mickelson was going to perform at the PJ Championship,
we would say he's going to miss the cup by a bazillion strokes.
Yikes.
And he won the term.
He won it.
Oh, you definitely won.
Yeah.
So that's something to think about.
The other guy I like is Charlie Hoffman.
I love Charlie Hoffman.
I think that's a sneaky play this week.
He's a local guy.
I know.
Yeah.
I think that's a sneaky good play.
You think so?
Oh, yeah.
Kevin Strillman's 180 to 1.
Oh, by the way.
money.
Huge,
huge interaction with the boys today with the man of the real.
I mean,
he's our guy.
Couldn't be more of our guy.
He's awesome.
And getting better by every time we,
I mean,
that interaction was just like so normal,
so easy.
Like I bought Regs of Steak.
No,
I didn't really look at it.
Like,
chirping a little bit.
Yeah,
he tried to slip me a $10 bill or something.
Yeah,
he seems like a very nice and pretty normal guy.
Yeah,
he's great.
The man of Striel.
Matthew Fitzpatrick,
we chat with him today.
Love fits
I feel like he would be a good U.S. Open play.
He likes really hard golf courses.
So,
you know,
I also said that about Wingfoot
and he just couldn't get it going.
I think he missed a cut at Wingfoot.
But I think Maddie Fitz is a good sneaky pick this week.
He's also like sneaky,
I think 20th in the world I'm looking at right now.
That's amazing.
Madi Fitz?
Yeah.
20th in the world that guy is.
So I kind of like him.
And there's a lot of stories.
Like Tony Feetow,
he plays really, really well at Tori Pines.
They obviously play Tori Pines.
They obviously play Torrey Pines South every January.
So he's play, he has a really good track record there.
You know, he mentioned that a lot of the holes go left or right.
He loves to fade the ball.
So they're, you know, appealing to his eyes.
So he's another name.
But, I mean, now you're just kind of rattling off a lot of the top names.
Patrick Creed 28 to one.
I don't hate that.
Don't hate that at all.
You know, he gets, he just won here.
So he clearly clearly can play here.
Billy Horshaw, we're really awkward around when we see him.
Don't really know what to do.
Yeah.
I gave our boy Poulter today a nice shot and he goes get down after.
Poulter hit a drive off of the 6th.
Yeah. Explain that because that was actually a funny interaction.
It came from a good place.
It did.
Yeah.
So Poulter, he's on the 6th.
We're on the 6th for whatever reason.
And anyways, the first one.
Cisco is the reason.
I know.
Well, I saw the artery.
I was waiting.
I didn't know when you wanted to jump in.
Love CISC.
Lurch.
88 cameras.
By the way, let's take a moment to talk about how good this 4D technology is because
you have.
guys all saw my swing at the US weapons open, which was hideous. But you saw it and you saw it in
four dimensions. The thing where it starts at the side and then it swirls over to the back and then it like
goes up and then goes back to the side. 88 cameras they got with this thing all week long powered by
Cisco. They're going to be able to have replay the footage from 180 degree angle. You can go on
and interact with it. You can manipulate it where you look at everybody's swing on the app, the US open app.
You can look at their swing and you can like pick which angle you're going to watch it from all 88 different cameras and like basically fly around like a fucking ghost and like pick how you want to watch Rory Swing or anybody swing on the app.
So Cisco, they make it possible fans to have an incredibly unique viewing experience, even better than last year.
What's even better, you can actually interact, like I said, control the footage.
So essentially you're like, you're kind of like God with a camera.
They said manipulate.
You can manipulate the camera any way that you want to basically view the swing from a different angle.
It's awesome.
So download the U.S. Open app directly from the app store.
This is something extremely cool, extremely unique that our friends at Cisco are making possible.
They also were there for the LTP.
They made it possible for all those young ladies to meet their families that were graduating
that were playing their last collegiate round.
And we all saw those moments.
So Cisco's awesome.
They do a great job.
We did it.
I mean, we've swung.
Oh, yeah.
No, I can't wait to see my swing.
I'm actually excited too.
I push my ball 250 yards right.
So I'm going to be as open as you can potentially be in that 40 video, whatever.
You'd probably be a little open and impacted.
Oh, boy, I can't wait to see it.
Rick said a good one.
I hit a good one.
I hit a good one, too, yeah.
I will say, did you say I hit a good one so that I would say you hit a good one?
100%.
To be fair to me, your first ball that I saw this weekend was horrible with Kisner.
Your first ball on that T-box was also horrible.
It wasn't horrible.
It bounced in the rough.
and then went into the grud.
Potentially, yeah.
My first ball was bad, too.
So I think my next swing is going to be tremendous.
That's fair.
That's a fair point.
Cisco is great.
We were staying on the 60 because we were filling our swings,
which you'll be able to see on the Internet with Cisco.
But Poulter rolled up.
So Poulter rolls up.
First ball, he actually pushes right.
Now, I think it went into the crud.
It might have cleared, but it was on a bad line,
a line that he didn't want.
A rigs line.
A rigs line.
Very much.
First attempt.
Right. Tees up a second ball.
We've always had maybe an interesting relationship with Polter.
What an interesting way for you to put that.
Right.
I mean, because it's been not great.
Yeah.
I do like his energy a lot.
What he showed, like with his international buds.
I just like his kind of upbeat energy.
There is some downfalls to him that you, Riggs, have mentioned quite a few times.
But regardless, second shot.
I mean, it sounded good on the face, looked good, I thought it was on a good line, and I think I said, oh, that's a beauty.
And then he quickly said, get down.
Yeah.
Your defense, it's a hard dog leg right.
Hard dog.
And, like, at all angles right.
So, like, he hit it dead straight.
That looked great.
But, like, you needed it to cut.
Needed it to cut.
And so, anyways, we kind of had a weird back and forth, and I didn't want it to be kind of dead air after that because he's walking off.
He, I think at that moment, he was probably like, oh, they'd chirped me again.
I'm like, beauty, like, kind of pulled it left in this sense, missed my target line by 20 yards.
But it wasn't like he duck hooked it.
You were like, beauty.
But that would have been funny.
Yeah.
And just very, that would have been a problem.
Yeah.
So then I go back to him, I was like, oh, no, Polter.
I actually thought it was on a good line.
Like, I didn't mean for it to be that way.
I didn't say that last one.
Which now gets in a real awkward territory.
Oh, yeah.
But then he kind of smiled back and gave like in all good.
And then actually where the ball, where he played it from.
was right of the last bunker on six,
so it was actually a good spot
wherever the ball finished up.
I wonder if he
knows your affiliation.
Good point.
Probably not.
Because I think that there's a chance
that interaction
goes differently if he does.
You think it goes much worse?
Just different.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm standing there with you two guys.
I'm always curious, and we talk about
a little earlier today, like,
most of these players have blinders on
when they're out there.
just kind of like, I'm focused on me, this is a practice round.
I got to figure this shit out before the tournament starts,
where I don't even know if he would have seen us standing next to the time.
Yeah, like Tommy Fleet was a good example today where he was walking, like, kind of on his phone,
walking four feet away from us right past us.
And we're kind of looking up, we're always just trying to be in people's way.
Like we're literally trying to like make eye contact, nothing.
So then I just said, like, good luck this week, Tommy.
And he kind of gave a little bit like, you know, thanks.
And then he looked and was like, oh, boys.
And like came over and chatting with us for a couple minutes.
So, like Trent's saying, I would guess that he had no clue who you or any of us were in that moment.
No, and I agree with that.
Or certainly minimal.
Right out of the gate when he heard my voice, nothing.
When he looked back over, maybe something.
You heard your voice from fucking.
Right.
It goes for a county.
I know.
I understand that.
Yeah.
LA County.
The, what is it?
Triangle of love.
And Fleetwood gave a nice little smile.
Yeah.
That was funny.
Yeah.
He did that.
I think he, he read.
He was like, oh my God, that moment.
I think he repeated it.
And he goes, trying to love.
Because with a guy like Polter,
I do think if he knew everything that was going on there,
like he knew who you were, he knew that we were staying there,
I think there is a chance he just goes like, fuck off.
Which would have been a wild remark.
I think he said we assaulted him or harassed him.
Assault is a strong word.
He did use the word assault, I'm pretty sure.
Really?
Pretty sure?
Because that's one was sure.
He might have said harassed.
I don't know.
It was maybe like a verbal assault, something like that.
He put it on his Instagram because he was doing one of those
Q&A's on Instagram story like a year ago.
Yes.
And so he was like,
are you ever going to go on
and do stuff with the Ford Play Pod boys?
And he, you know,
chose to respond to that publicly and was like,
no, I'll never do anything because they like
have assaulted me of the years.
I don't remember.
I think he might have said harassed.
He said like they've harassed.
Harassed is better than assaulted.
I think so too.
Assault is what comes on this interview really soon.
Right.
Which is illegal.
We can't do that.
Can't get you arrested.
We did not.
We did not.
not not one iota did we assault ian polter no never nor did we harass nor would this podcast
still be in existence if we assaulted ian polter extremely illegal and problematic and morally wrong so yeah
we just would be we'd be done if say what you're about to let hurt learn who we here learn all together
is that you know nobody needs to be oliver no no um we do have coming up and i hope everybody enjoys
the United States Open Championship.
We'll be back, depending on how things go,
we'll probably be back Monday or Tuesday.
You know, it's like when Phil one,
we obviously had to get a podcast out immediately.
So depending on how kind of,
I don't know, I guess how dramatic,
how like must hear, how must react to the podcast
or the tournament championship, sorry, is.
We will put out the podcast either Monday or Tuesday.
We'll probably do Monday,
but we'll just kind of see people who are traveling over the country.
point is enjoy the United States Open
It's one of the best weeks of the year by far
Tori Pines delivered 13 years ago
Maybe the most memorable major championship of our lives
And now it's set again
We got a lot of good storylines
A lot of really good players
The weather's going to be perfect
It's going to be fun
Now we have
Before you get to this
One thing that I will say for fans out there to watch
Is the rough around the greens is outrageous
So if you see somebody that has
is short-sided or whatever the case may be and it's just chipping around the greens just tune in
don't look away watch that because there's a good chance it's a skull it's a whiff it's just not
where they wanted to send that golf ball i think what people are going to see a lot of so we saw
walking back we saw hadaki and his caddy and one of his other boys and right as we were walking
by had he gave i think it was like you know maybe a swing coach somebody like that gave
you know, he took the wedge and Hedekke, like, buried one of the balls in the rough.
They were, like, around the little practice chipping green.
And we saw his boy take, like, two practice swings that were full swing.
I'm talking, he's probably eight yards from the green and maybe 11 yards from the pin.
Like, he was very close to the green.
Took a full swing, caught it a little thin, and it just barreled way over the green, like into the parking lot.
And I think we're going to see a lot of stuff like that where guys are taking pretty full swings because it's like you're in hay.
basically when you're right next to the green.
And there's going to be a lot of think that you see a big swing in the ball just comes up short and disappears again.
Or when they catch it cleaner than they thought, and like you said, just barrel it over the green.
So it's going to be fascinating around the greens.
I think generally around like the fairway rough and all that, I don't think it's going to be anything crazy out of the ordinary.
That's what the players are saying.
They're saying it's pretty fair, fairway rough, not bad.
Where they're killing them is around the green rough.
If you miss greens, you're absolutely.
And there'll be the odd lie or two that people do get around the fair and a rough where they just got to hack it out, obviously, where you get a horrible break, whatever.
But I think generally they can get it up in here and around the greens, but around the green when you miss it, the greens have some crazy undulations to them, as we saw.
And the rough's ridiculous.
So I think you're going to see some crazy golf and action around the greens.
Thursday, so tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern, we have, do we have Trent or is that next week?
That's next week.
I believe the Torrey Pines video is Friday.
Friday.
Our full rounds at Torrey Pines from 7,800 yards.
So Friday we have from 7,800 yards.
At what time were we putting that puppy out?
3 p.m. Eastern, we are going to put out
us playing Tori Pines from 7,800 yards,
which is about 150 to 20 yards longer than they're playing it this week
because we just wanted to go all the way back.
So that video will be out on our YouTube,
and I would like to use this opportunity to call out for YouTube,
you know, a few names.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm going to kind of steal.
Are you going to steal that?
No, I don't know that I should steal it.
Are you going to eat?
Feels like a steal.
Well, we can just talk about it.
Should we just talk about it?
Yeah, we should.
I'm going to call out Katie.
Okay, no, that's fine, because that's not the name of the person that we ran into.
See what I did there?
You did me a solid.
Well, what I wanted to do was I wanted to, you know, call out a female name to all of our female
listeners out there. So all the Katie's out there, my sister name is actually Kate. So Katie,
beautiful name. Fantastic. And you probably have been wondering for months now while we haven't been
calling your name when we ask people to subscribe to the YouTube channel. You've been sitting there
hovering over the button being like, I wish these fucking guys to subscribe. And so now we're doing it.
So Catherine, Kate, Katie, all versions of that name, please subscribe to the four play golf
YouTube channel. And what brought this about is that we were walking around Tori Pines, just checking
things out, talking to players, doing our thing. And a female listener came up to us and said,
why don't you guys ever call out female names for the YouTube subscribers? And we thought,
that's a great idea. I think we might have done it earlier on when we first started calling out
names. We were like, we're going to do guys. We're going to do girls. It's going to be the whole thing.
But I think it's been a while since we, you know, called out to female listeners and subscribers.
I think you keep making that up to make us feel better and better.
I do.
Yeah, I don't think we ever mentioned.
But I hope that you're right.
I'm pretty sure that we did.
All right, good.
At least one of us did early on.
Maybe like a Steve Steve E.
situation.
No, no, I think there was more than that.
No, I think it was, no, actually, I think you're wrong.
Riggs thinks it never happened.
I just keep agreeing with you.
Which is fair.
So the name that I'm going to call out is the name of the person that we ran into,
Stephanie.
Any of the Stephanie's out there, subscribe to the four-play YouTube channel,
tons of videos coming out
Breaking 100, Travel Series
the Torrey Pines video, all that stuff.
So all the Stephanie's out there, subscribe, please.
I'll follow a suit. I'll give Jess.
If your name's Jess, Jessica,
get out there, subscribe.
Appreciate that. Appreciate the watch.
Look forward to seeing us just absolutely struggle
from Tori Pines from the back.
And it was, man, you know,
you guys had flown all the way across the country.
We were up in San Francisco.
Then we flew that night after playing
Olympic club, which sounds like, you know, champagne problems.
But point is, flew all the way down.
Then, like, God, Tori went to sleep, woke up, played Tori for 7,800 yards,
and we just were not impressive.
And it's a very funny video.
So there will be a disclaimer at the beginning of this video, but I want to say it now.
This was before I visited John Tilleri.
Yes.
Because the timelines are confusing.
And that probably gives you a little peek into how I played at Tori Pines.
But I want people to know that it was before I saw John Tillerary.
You were not yet in the Tilder.
I was not.
Now I'm firmly planted in the till game.
Next up, we have a guest, Austin Daly, who was, again, playing in the Monday
qualifier for the Corn Ferry Tour in Kansas this past Monday, just a few days ago.
And his grouping resulted in arrests and an incredible physical education.
and he walks us through the entire story.
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Yeah.
I'm not.
No, you're not, but you got a lot of Heartland qualities.
Appreciate that.
You kind of look like you're corn, corn fed a little bit.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
What do you think about that?
You don't agree?
Bringing me in from Jersey to just.
I don't know about all that.
I was just trying to get to the average.
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You want to be welcomed?
I do, but I mean, I want to be welcomed with open arms.
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Is that?
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Enjoy the United States Open Championship.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
We appreciate you taking the time, man.
Yeah, no worries.
Thanks for reaching out.
It's been pretty crazy.
So this is probably one of the craziest stories I've ever heard, especially in golf.
I mean, this kind of stuff just doesn't happen in golf.
you're obviously a big golf. We've been playing golf your whole life.
What, I mean, first of all, where are you at right now?
What's your status right now?
So my current status is I'm just playing mini-tores.
I've been bouncing around on many tours for a while.
I also work full-time during the winter season at PGA West in Lekinta, California,
where they play the American Express.
So between that and preparing for tournaments and trying to, you know, keep the game sharp,
It's tough when you're working full time and trying to go travel and play Mondays or Creek balls or state opens or Golden State events or whatever it is I'm trying to play in.
But yeah, basically after college turned pro and just been kind of chasing it ever since trying to play in whatever I can, really.
Yeah, and it's expensive, right?
It's like it's expensive to travel around to pay entry fees.
It's a grind.
Not enough people talk about the grind.
It is.
Yeah.
it's a big grind, you know, it's, um, whether I'm working at the course from five to one or
10 to whatever and trying to practice after or before the shifts, it's, you know, it's not like,
it's not like most guys that can kind of grind when, whenever they feel like it, you know,
I got to work around my, my work schedule. So the money I make working at the course I can
take to go travel and play events. So you, uh, so speaking of events, you know, you're at San Creek
station. You're in Kansas. Monday qualifier, corn fairy tour. I'm sure you're excited. You've been
grinding on your game. You know, talk to us a little bit about just kind of going into Monday
and, you know, where you were at with the Monday qualifying, what that whole seems like.
Yeah. So, um, so I left Lakeita on Monday, June 7th, drove to Phoenix, stayed in Phoenix for a couple
night sports on the game out at Wicopah which is a good place in Phoenix they got awesome spot my favorite
my favorite course out there the Suarro course yeah great course um so worked out there for a couple days
then drove to los cruises new mexico los cruises new mexico practice at a course there drove to san
Antonio from there to stay with a buddy of mine that i played high school golf with and stayed with
him for a few days and then made the trip up to Dallas, to stay in Dallas for a night and
practice at a course there. And then from there, drove up to Kansas.
Jesus. All right. So, mind you, mind you, I was, right before I left, I got a, I got a 2005
Honda Accord and the air conditioning went out. Oh, oh, oh, don't tell me that, dude.
That hurts the song. Grinding miles. In that, he's a lot.
without AC is an issue.
You also, I don't know, you look like a taller, bigger guy, too,
so I don't know if that's true, but that would be a complete, oh, no?
No, I'm only like 5'10.
Yeah, you just position the camera while I look tall.
You look great, yeah.
Big presence on the WebEx.
It's good.
I'll keep that in mind.
So, I mean, again, I love it, right?
It's the grind.
It's like doing whatever it takes to try to make it to get your shot.
So, you know, you're there.
You tee off. You got your grouping. How's everything going the first few holes?
Yeah. So, yeah, good question. So it just, it started off like any other Monday qualifier, you know, shut up to the course.
You got to warm up in, walk to the first tee, shook hands or fist bumps, whatever you want to call it.
Hit my first tee shot, started walking down the middle of the fairway. And then I, there wasn't really much conversation.
station in the first few holes.
But, I mean, you know, you can kind of get a feel for what your playing partners are
like. And if there's going to be much talking, if you're going to, if you guys are going to
not quote unquote hit it off, but if you're going to, you know, want to talk to each other
to begin with. And then, then after the first few holes, we got to
let me think we got to the third hole and the guy that was also in the group
Derek um Luke and his dad had walked off the green early and then after me and
Derek finished the hole Derek looked at me and he goes man this guy's just something else for
a lack of a better word and uh that's when I was like yeah I mean he just you know he's he's a
young college kid out there trying to play with the professional
and you know it just just went sour very fast so so this goes on for a few holes you're kind of
and look everybody's been in a pairing right you can read people like nobody can hide during a round
golf it's it's four out five hours whatever it is like you're going to have ups you're going
to have downs whoever you are as a person however you handle those moments like that that gets
revealed so realizing this um you're playing like you said so we set the stage for by it's
a threesome. It's you, Derek, and then Luke.
And Luke has his dad cadding for him. Is that correct?
Yeah. Yeah, the daddy catty.
That's like a home dresser in hockey. That's just brutal.
Daddy catty is ugly. Amazing line. God damn. God, it makes me so, like I like that we're
kind of learning about the internet. It really feels, it really feels like we're building up
towards something. We all know what it is. But we're doing a very good job of building
towards it and I think people are starting to get excited.
I'm getting excited. Me too.
No, you know, not at your expense or, you know, glad that you're safe.
Oh, yeah.
It's, we can laugh about them now.
So we get to, I believe, six or seventh hole and things go, you know, from sour to pretty
unbelievable.
From your vantage point, kind of describe the whole thing going, you know, from a golf round
to the reason that you're pretty much here right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So on, let's see.
One, two, three.
and four, on five, I think it was, yeah, on five, Derek had hit two balls left into the crap.
And so as we're walking up, I started helping him look for that ball.
I actually find that ball so he could hit it.
And then I go over to my ball on the fairway, hit it on the green, pick up his provisional,
and then bring it to him while we're on the green.
But while we're looking for, while me and Derek are looking for his ball,
Derek makes a comment like, man, these guys just, they're not going to help us look for a ball, are they?
Like, they're just lost in their own world.
They're not getting flag sticks.
You know, when you're first in, if you bring a caddy, a caddy should know to be the one that put the flagstick in.
Especially a daddy caddy, right?
What's that?
Especially a daddy caddy.
Especially a daddy caddy.
Yeah, especially that kid.
Everybody knows that.
And so then we get to the next hole, and Derek hits two balls left.
into the crap again.
So I help him go look for those again,
and we're just kind of making small talk like,
man, these guys are unbelievable.
Meanwhile, while we're looking for the balls,
him and Luke and his dad are already on the green,
you know, with Luke's got his butter crossed.
He's got his hand on his hip, kind of like,
you know, not giving us a look, but we know the body language of like,
you guys going to speed it up or what?
And we're like, in my head, I'm thinking, like,
well, if you guys were here, you know, four,
it was a lot better than two trying to,
find a wall of a lot. Right. That's math, yeah. And so we're just like, wow, like, this is crazy.
So we finish out that hole. Derek had unfortunately made a seven. So Luke had asked them what he
made and he knew. He told him seven. And then he asked him again on the T-box and you can kind
of tell Derek was getting a little agitated about that. It's like, dude, I told you once already.
We should just, you know, pay attention. If you were helping us, look, you would have known the
rather than just getting up on the green and waiting and just being a clown.
And so then we get to seven, it's a par of three.
And I smother pull one left into the crap.
And then me and Derek start looking for that ball again.
And then I was just like, you know, a mixture of not playing great and just agitated
and kind of, you know, running hot, if you want to call it that.
And so I get it on the green and I tell Luke, I say, hey, man, if we had equal effort, if we had equal effort looking for golf balls, if you guys get a flag stick every now, then we wouldn't be a hole and a half behind.
And our pace of play would probably improve.
And he goes, well, why did you re-tee?
And I go, well, do you see red steaks?
There's no red stakes.
So obviously, I got to re-tee if it's possibly a lost ball.
and then so we finish out the hole or he finished his last or he finishes first again and then just steps over the pin
to the tee and then this is where it all just kind of took off from there we're walking to the tea and
I see the dad kind of slammed the bag down in anger and starts walking towards me and I'm like oh boy
he's about to say something like because I know this I know this body language and he goes
you know, don't you effing talk to me like that.
Don't you eff and talk to my kid like that.
F you.
Who do you think you are?
Blah, blah, blah.
Just going on and on.
And I just go, I go, excuse me?
And he goes, F you, you know, don't talk.
Don't talk to me like that, blah, blah, blah.
And so naturally, now I don't want to say I was threatened,
but I was, I knew that, like, you know, all right,
if you're going to speak to me like that, then.
the gloves are coming off.
I can talk to you about that.
So I just basically said,
F you, you know, who do you think you are?
You're out here caddy and you're not doing what you're supposed to do.
You might be some big swinging dick at some company,
but here you're a caddy.
So be a caddy.
And he didn't like that.
And so he took offense with that.
Let me stop you right there.
At this point, do you think at any point it'll get physical?
Like, is that in the back of your head?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely.
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
So I'm, you know, telling the dad, you know, if you're going to come out and caddy in a professional event, be a caddy, don't just come out here and carry the clubs.
Like there's, you know, a lot of guys out here that a caddy that know exactly what they're doing.
Me and Derek didn't have a caddy.
So if you think there's only one caddy in the group, that should be the caddy that kind of helps everybody, so to speak.
I mean, we don't need them to rake our bumpers or read our butts.
But, you know, get a fucking flag state.
Come on.
It's not rocket science.
and so then he just,
he kept going off on me and I was yelling at him.
So as I'm like,
I start walking away and I'm getting ready to hit my shot
and I got my putter under my arm.
And I go to grab my yardage book out of my pack right pocket.
Next thing, you know,
it clocked on the side of the face.
And, you know, of course I go down.
And then he gets on top of me.
Then we start wrestling.
Then we get up again.
And then I was able to throw him on the ground.
And then he got me in a headlock.
And then his dad was like yelling, yelling,
put him to sleep, Luke, put him to sleep.
No way.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And what did you say specifically when he turned around and threw the bag on the
ground and was coming at you?
Like, what did you say at that moment?
I didn't say anything.
He was the one that he just said to me.
He goes, don't you eff and talk to my kid like that?
Don't you talk to me like that?
And, you know, F you, F you.
And he said something along the lines of, you know, he said, here's me.
He said, he said me and Luke are.
He said me and Luke aren't out here to look for golf balls.
Oh, my God.
Put him to sleep is one of the craziest lines out of a father at a golf tournament.
So he's saying this.
He's saying this to you while you guys are like wrestling and fighting.
Wow.
Yeah, while we're on the ground wrestling, his dad goes, put him to sleep, Luke, put him to sleep.
And then at that point, Derek had saw what was happening.
So he had heard, he already went to the hole to tee off to try to, you know, get us pick up play a little bit.
So he had saw what happened.
What was happening ran back from the fairway
and was trying to break up the fight.
But Oliver, his dad was waving the putter around it.
Anybody was trying to intervene, basically saying back off,
this isn't your fight and was like threatened to hit them with a putter
if they were going to try to intervene.
What's going on with this father's son duo that they're like,
lunacy?
You got one wielding a putter basically keeping people from interfering.
while yelling, put him asleep.
I don't know if I'm going to hit the putter.
Like, I'm on the ground.
The guy going to hit me?
Like, I'm talking about you're trying to qualify for a tournament.
Am I going to get clocked on the side of the face with a putter?
So who in this fight?
Is anybody bleeding?
Are you like, who's getting the better of who?
Because you got blindsided.
So I imagine that was a pretty big advantage for him.
Yeah, dude, that caught me way off.
I'm not going to lie, I was disoriented for a little bit.
Totally.
And just, just.
You know, naturally, the thought, honestly, the main thought that was going through my head was, okay, this isn't a Saturday round of golf with the boys.
This is a corn fairy tour Monday qualifier.
If I start throwing haymakers, I don't know if I'll get fined.
I don't know if I'll get banned for future qualifiers.
I don't know.
It's not going to be a good look for me.
I know guys to play on the BJ tour.
I know the guys, I know guys to play on the corn fairy tour and I'm caddy.
So, like, you know, it would get back to me negatively somehow.
So I just kind of like, I'm going to say I just didn't, I don't want to say just laid there and let him manhandle me.
But I just, at one point, I just basically just kind of like stop fighting back.
And I just like, I was telling him, dude, get off me.
Like, this is stupid.
You know, you have no idea what you're doing.
Like, you're going to, you just ruined your entire career.
Like, you know, he just ruined your entire career before you can turn pro.
You're a college kid out here playing with the pros and like you're ruining golf.
So, all right.
So we got the dad waving the putter,
him to sleep, Luke.
Maybe Oliver.
You guys, yeah, Oliver.
You guys are...
Oliver, Oliver Smith, yeah.
Eventually, this gets broken up.
How did it get broken up?
Who was able to, like, penetrate the force field of Oliver
and his putter waving?
What happened?
Yeah, it basically just, his dad actually finally said,
all right, let him go, Luke, let him go, Luke.
And then Luke goes, call me uncle, call me uncle.
and I'll let you go.
And I go, dude, shut up.
Just like, just let me go.
And then he starts pulling, pulling my head back.
And he goes, and finally it just, it just was ended.
And he goes, you know, you're lucky.
I didn't break your arm.
We're going to get up right now.
We're going to finish this round of golf and we're going to go our separate ways.
And I go, I highly doubt that's going to happen.
Imagine thinking after all that.
It's like, all right, we're going to put this ball in this tea.
And let's finish out this round.
Who's got the honor here, you or me?
Yeah, this will actually surprise.
you guys, I actually hit a T-shot on the next hole.
Really? Wow.
Yeah, I was, dude, I was, I was shaking.
Like, I was so, I was so mad.
I was so fired up.
And, like, the last thing I wanted to do was just getting a fight on a golf course.
You get in a fight anywhere, let alone a golf course, let alone in a Monday qualifier for a
corned fair tournament.
And so, like, yeah, I hit my T-shot, and I hit it a million yards right.
And just started walking down the fairway.
And I told Derek, I said, hey, yeah.
man, I'm out of here.
Like, I'm leaving it.
And at that point, the group behind us, I guess, had called the golf shop.
So there was just a sea of golf carts flooding the eighth hole.
And yeah, it was unbelievable.
And next thing, you know, the golf shop staffs out there,
they're asking me if I want to press charges, if I want to call the cops.
So I said, well, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, I didn't get the fight.
I got assaulted.
Like, the guy just, I was walking away.
and the guy just punched me and then starts jumping on top of me.
And mind you, he's a big dude.
He's young, but he's a big dude.
Like, big boy from Tennessee.
He sounds like for sure.
You know?
Yeah.
So, okay, so now I'll see a Cards arrives.
You probably realize, like, my round of golf is probably over.
Like, what is, what happens at that point?
How do people address it?
I heard there's somebody, maybe it was the Derek guy,
was at some point, like, giving his police report
while finishing out the round.
I saw all kinds of crazy stuff.
Yeah, so I don't know who the person was that worked at the course,
but they drove me in a cart back to the clubhouse.
Somebody else took Luke and his dad in the cart back to the clubhouse.
By the time I had got back to the clubhouse,
the cops were already there.
I had a little cut under my lip,
and then I guess I had some blood on my chin.
and I walked up in the golf shop
and the lady was like,
she said, oh, do you need a towel
to clean your face up?
And I'm like, well, why?
She said, well, you have blood on your face.
It's like, I have blood on my face.
Jesus.
And I didn't even know.
And so then she walked outside
to see what was going on.
She walked in and she's like,
yeah, you know, based on what that,
that kid are saying out there,
it seems like the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.
There's just crazy people.
And people were coming inside
just trying to make sure I was all right, making sure I, you know, asking me if I needed anything.
And they're like, is this your first time in Kansas?
I was, yes, my first time in Kansas.
Nice folks in Kansas.
Right.
Is your first time?
What do you think?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And then the cops, they took my side of the story.
The next thing, you know, I said, Luke, walking by me in handcuffs.
No way.
Wow.
At a golf tournament.
At a golf tournament.
Yeah, at no point when you woke up that morning you were thinking like
I might get in a fist fight today.
That's not probably what you were thinking.
I was waking up thinking like, geez, I better have the draw going.
So it's going to be a long day.
Yeah.
And also on the eighth hole, like you hit, you teed one up, I guess, on the ninth because
this was on the eighth green.
I mean, now you just have another two and a half hours with this guy that you just
wrestled while Oliver, daddy, caddy, wave to putter.
It's like, what are we doing out here?
Yeah, what am I supposed to say?
Like, hey, guys, the Vef card's coming.
Let's have a beer.
Makes me think this isn't the first time Luke has done that,
where he's like, all right, we're done fighting now.
Let's play the rest of this round of golf.
Totally.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what was going through his head,
but I was able to get in touch with his college coach,
and I spoke to his college coach personally.
There's, I don't want to say it's going to happen,
but there's a good chance he's going to get kicked off his golf team.
speaking with the people at the corn fairy tour i was speaking with a guy named brad he's the player
relations guy he said not verbatim but there's a good chance he'll never be allowed to play any
pj tour sanction qualifiers corn fairy tour qualifiers um if he has any intent to turn pro
he'll he's going to have a rough road from here i mean there's a good chance he'll be in prison
i mean if he's insulting people if his dad's yelling put him to sleep like
You know, when I was a kid, I was super fiery, and my dad would coach me down off the ledge.
Like, no, son, like, you just got to chill out.
Like, it's fine.
Like, life goes on.
Not pouring gasoline on it.
While waving a putter, as Rick said, like a force field around saying, put him to sleep while you're waving a putter.
It's like, I mean.
Put him to sleep is something out of a comedy movie.
It's like that somebody would say is an ironic bit.
Yeah, this is, I mean, you can't make, you can't make this stuff up.
What happened.
It was just, it was just crazy.
It was just, you know, I traveled 1,200 miles by car to play six holes in a Monday
ballfire.
That's insane.
No, A, C, nonetheless, you know.
So what's that?
No way seen nonetheless.
Yeah, no A C.
It's not bad with the windows now.
With the breeze hit you and your sweat.
That's true.
That's true, those highway rides, yeah.
Man, that is, well, I guess next time you tee it up, you'll, I mean, you'll probably be like,
all right, like, what's the worst that could happen?
I've seen.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I mean, now, now I've got.
one of my college teammates is going to caddy for me.
And, you know, we're probably going to start taking some Muay
classes, maybe get a group discount.
It should be the first golfer sponsored by UFC.
I mean, they should pick it up.
Yeah, yeah, I was trying to get like just maybe to get some white flat bill
snapback hats and just like the everlast boxing glove on it or something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
Yeah, you need that.
Or maybe start a golf clothing line called Say Uncle.
There you go.
You're thinking.
Your uncle's another ridiculous line.
Just like, what is wrong with this family?
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
They were just, and his dad is some hedge fund capital prime guy.
And he introduced himself on the first team with his first and last name and wanted to make it very known that it was first and last name.
I could just get a read on them real fast.
They were just some people I definitely don't want to have a beer with, you know.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
he's, you know, like Oliver Smith the third from then.
You're like, all right, bro, that's fine.
I'm Austin.
Let's, let's peg it.
Let's do this.
Wow.
Right, you can still be a good person no matter who you are.
I mean, what the hell is that?
Oliver's saying, put him to sleep.
And then his son's saying, call me uncle.
It's like, what are we even doing out here?
Yeah, there is the O'Doil rules.
They are.
They really are like.
They are.
And we all saw what happened.
the O'Doyles at the end of the movie.
They did. They flew right off a cliff and we saw exactly what happened.
They did. I know.
No, it was sad. It was a bummer for them.
You looked at me like you didn't know who the O'Doils were.
No, I mean, it was just, it was a funny reference.
Yeah, they are that family, though. That's a good call.
Big time. Wow.
So what's next? You're going to, I mean, when are you teeing it again?
We got to, I mean, you got to follow you now and make sure you finish.
Good question. So I was, I was going to go, you know, next week,
Corned Ferry Tour is in Maine.
So I'm not going to do that one.
Then there's a week off.
and then the next Monday is in Colorado.
So as of right now, that's the next event.
And then just trying to do as many Mondays on the Corn Ferry Tour as possible.
Luckily, luckily I don't have to, you know, work much at PGA West this season or this summer,
this summer so I can kind of have a pretty flexible schedule of the guys that I work for,
some of my best friends.
So they're pretty cool with, like, letting me take time off and travel and play tournaments.
whenever I want. But as of right now, yeah, next next one's probably going to be Colorado,
unless I can find something between, I'm in Fort Worth, Texas right now,
so unless I can find something between here and there to play.
What's the entry feed, like a Corn Ferry Tour Qualifier, Money Qualifier?
They're, so for for non, for people with non-status, they're 450. And luckily,
I'm very grateful to the South Central PGA section. They did refund my money for the
ballfire, which I thought was pretty cool.
Okay. Well, I was going to say, we could rally
our followers, no problem.
Cover that entry fee. That won't be a problem.
Okay. Yeah.
Okay. We'd love to do that.
Because, I mean, you drove
across the country and literally
wasn't able to play in an event
without being attacked by
Oliver and his son who were yelling
call me uncle or whatever. So,
yeah, I think that's
a no-brainer. But, man,
what a story. At least you'll have a good story
for the rest of your life.
Yeah, yeah.
Unfortunately, making headlines for, I guess, not the greatest reasons, the wrong reasons,
whatever you want to call it.
But at this point, it is what it is.
So I just got to kind of ride the wave.
No, totally.
And you didn't do anything wrong.
I mean, no.
No, actually, and the funny thing is at one point, the officers told me that there's a chance
that I can be charged with.
disorderly conduct.
And I said, I said, how?
What do you mean disorderly contact?
Well, I said, you know, you did exchange verbal words with the dad.
I said, well, yeah, he, if someone tells you to go, fuck yourself, what are you going to say?
Oh, yeah, okay, cool.
Yeah, I will.
Yeah, I'm going to try that.
That sounds fun.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Jesus.
So, I mean, yeah, it was just, it was just, I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around the situation.
Sure.
all the attention it's got all the
I mean I don't have social media
I don't have Instagram on our Facebook
I don't have any any form of social media
I'm very jealous of you by the way that's I obviously saw
what all the you know my buddy sent me everything
and just seeing all that it's just like
it's just weird
yeah I can imagine I can imagine
well look good luck we'll be in touch
and and yeah I try to stay
you know, out of trouble out there, you know, try to keep it, try to be cool.
I'm sure you'll, I'm sure every playing part you have for the rest of your life will seem like
the nicest guy of all time.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see the next tournament I go to.
If there's, you know, I might have to bring some security.
All right, awesome.
Thanks, man.
We appreciate the time.
Yeah.
Thank you, guys.
Thank you, man.
Have a good one.
Yeah, same deal.
