Fore Play - Collin Morikawa, And Riggs Is Bald Now

Episode Date: April 28, 2020

Collin Morikawa (42:17) joins the show for the first time. He’s definitely not superstitious but always keeps exactly 5 tees in his pocket. Hmm. We have an awesome conversation on being one of the y...oung guns, winning early, and what the John Deere Classic means to him. In other news, Riggs is bald and we debate if his “ace” on the Cradle is really an ace!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. It is again. I mean, we're in quarantine. We're not going to do the whole, nobody knows what fucking day it is, all this, that. You're bald. That's right. Oh, you missed it at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I did miss it. So is this going to go before the interview, right? So I was a little bit late to the Colin interview that we were about to show. I mean, you're just as bald as fuck, man. You're bald as shit. shit, dude. Like when Marve Electric can do something. Holy shit is that thing shiny.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Look at that head. I sent it out of the gate. That head needs color. And I think, I don't know if you heard that or just noticed it, but that thing needs some color. I mean, I did know it.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Let me give you my, let me give you my take on this. Okay. I think you look better than you did before. So that's, I mean, I think his hair was an atrocity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Like, and he knew it. It was on its way out. And you were trying so hard to, figure out ways to do it. It's stressful. Where do I bend my hair this way, that way, wearing hats. I wear hats all the time too. And that's not because I have bad hair. I just have a feminine forehead. But here's the other thing. I think you look better than you did before, but I just don't know that this is the look that I would envision you to have. Like your face,
Starting point is 00:01:18 I don't envision you to be bald. So I am now in a crossroads where I think you look better, but I also don't know if it works. So I don't know where it is. You look scary. You look scary. I don't know if I'm not used to it, but like when Nate shaved his head, I was like, okay, that's fine. And when Jake shaved his head, I was like, all right, that looks good. But when you shaved your head, it was startling, startling. I went, oh, when I saw it. Not at a fear, more like, I dropped my phone and I'm like, I went to my girlfriend. I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:01:50 I couldn't even speak. I'm like, he's bald. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe that you were bald. Now, also, here's my third. point. Am I allowed to make fun of or talk about your appearance when I'm growing pubes on my faith? So that was something that I was dealing with when I was coming on here. Okay. Because I can't grow like a beard. Like everyone has their things that they can't do. You couldn't grow hair on your
Starting point is 00:02:12 head anymore. And you just figured it out. You shaved it. Between buddies, they should all be able to be made fun of. I mean, like there's, you know, like nobody's perfect in this room. No, no. I just look. No, but it's like hard to throw stones when I look, I look fashionably ridiculous. But you wanted to throw stones. I wanted to. And that's a strategic conversation with Frankie. That's literally good. That's how it goes. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:02:37 the theory is pretty much been laid out. I think it's obvious. But it's like you're losing your hair. You can either like look preposterous without a hat on. You can get hair plugs and hope it like works. Or you can just shave it. And
Starting point is 00:02:55 that's the route. Now, The theory, too, was like, I've been a hat guy for like 15 years anyway. So I don't know that like I look much different with my hat on than I did before. No. So if you look a little better without it, which I think I do, then why not just do it? So right now it's just shining off the light. So I'm having a tough time really focusing on anything else. You mentioned plugs.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Now, you can't get plugs now. Not right now. Be ridiculous now that you've shaved your. head, right? Trying to think, like, if I'm not just, like, right in my face with the lights, you know, like, this is me, like, at a bar, hello, how are you? Boy, you're just, you're super, fuck, oh. Dude, like, here's different. I mean, you're scary. You have a nice shaped head, which is good. Yeah, you do. But you don't know until you shave it. Yes. Which is crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I shaved my head once, and it was just the biggest mistake. You can't do that. You're too big, dumb, lurchy head. It's, I've got a massive head. It looks like, it looks like, it looks like, you're going to murder someone. That's the problem. It looks like you're going to commit a murder. It looks like if I look at you, it's like, holy shit,
Starting point is 00:04:04 that guy's going to fucking murder me, man. Or he already has. Or he's potentially, or he already has. Or he's got murder secrets. Yeah, I don't appear friendly,
Starting point is 00:04:16 you know? It's like, it just come off. I think you need to grow out the beard more now. Is that the plan? Because I think you look better. I think people who are bald look better when it's thicker down here.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I think it's just a trial. state. I think you need to try as much stuff with the facial hair as you can to get you have to do. You have to. I think right now everybody's, you know, now if Riggs met someone for the first time, they may be like, all right, that guy's just scary as fuck. But he looks normal, right? Like, yes. Yeah. To us, you look different. In credit, you look sick. Like, it's a, it's a head turn. When I, when I wear my little beanie hat, I look like I came from Sloan Kettering. But when you now would just walk out. of your house, people are like, how much longer do you have?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Oh, boy. I wasn't going to say it because I have the bad face later. I wish I was perfect. Get your jokes out. It's fine. Frank is at least saying it to your face. I mean, I think it's. I think you, no, but I genuinely, see, here's the thing. I genuinely think he looks better.
Starting point is 00:05:17 But also, I don't know if it works. I'm just not used to it, I guess. So it's going to take me some time. So I did, like, I tried to put out in the first two three days, like videos with just no hat on so that people could get used to it. See how bad it was. Or no, the other one. No, I think he meant.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Listen, you were a horrible listener. Absolutely. I thought he meant, I thought he meant prior to shaving it. Like, let me show you how bad my situation is. No. No. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:48 That is nicer than what you said. There's no denying your hair was a train wreck before you shaved it. Right. I didn't know what to do with it. Let's not act like this wasn't like this. You needed to do something. You don't do this unless your hair is a train. You went to the White House.
Starting point is 00:06:04 You had to take your hat off and it was an atrocity. You said that. You're like, what am I supposed to do right now? It was. Now, that was like, I knew that doing that would make, because I knew the video was going to be serious in nature.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So I was like, this could be a funny thing, but like, you can't show up with a fucking like this. Hi, Mr. White House. Like, I'm ready to talk coronavirus. What? But that was like a bit of a fork in the road moment where it was like,
Starting point is 00:06:31 we got to do something. We got to go one way or the yet we can't just keep doing this. What was the final straw? Do you think you would have been allowed at the White House had you shaved your head and walked in like that? I would have looked like everybody else, Mark Short, like they all look like that. What was the final straw? Was it girl, some of the girlfriend said was a producer Jake who has made a nice transition to the ball game?
Starting point is 00:06:50 What was it? The girlfriend's been pushing me to do it forever. She loves it. Okay. Okay. It's a positive. She loves it, which is right. And again, that's kind of, in theory, that's really all that should be the most important opinion or your own, I guess.
Starting point is 00:07:05 You should have self-confidence. But like, it's also quarantine. Like, you got to, everybody's got to going through something where you can get a-try forever. It was like, if there's a time to do it, this is it. And I was like, you might as well try because, like, no, it's not all going to grow back. Clearly, like, I'm not just going to sprout a full head of hair. but I think it will grow back somewhat similar to what it was. So even if you despise it, it's like,
Starting point is 00:07:32 we're going to be in quarantine for another month or a couple months. So like it'll grow back some and then you'll eventually back to what was my normal. So I was like, fuck it. I'll just do it. So are you going to actively keep shaving it or are you just letting it? I did it yesterday. I bicked it again yesterday. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So, yeah, so like what's your look in six months? Like do you think like right now do you want to, I want to bowl you down a lane, right? right now. I mean, it's already got the bowling wax on it. I mean, that thing is shiny. Boom. But like, what's your plan six to six months or year?
Starting point is 00:08:04 You're starting to get used to it. Me too. No, this is the plan. That's the plan. I'm starting to get used to it already. We've been talking for a half an hour. We'll just let him put his hat back on and take it off. Every time you've taken your hat off or put it on and taking it off, it's a, it's a
Starting point is 00:08:19 wow. It's a shot. Dude, I think in two months you're just like, yeah, Riggs has a bald head. Right. I think so, too. That's the nature with anything. But right now, it's got more shock factor than anything I've seen in the last year. The Daily Nine, for the most part, I've been trying to just do it bald.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So people were eventually just like, that's what Riggs looks like. And then I also thought doing the reveal, because like I'm not a Saints fan, but they're like, hey, you need to come in and do the Saints part of the fucking live thing. I was like, what am I going to say? I was like, you know what? I'm going to do, I'm going to shave my head and then do it on the live. You and the hoodie was really just. That's what it made it look like you were sick.
Starting point is 00:08:58 But I'm getting used to it. Like Frank said, the more we talk, the more it gets some color on it. It looks like there's already color on it. So I don't know. I think it's, you darken the beard a little bit. You let that thing go out and you look just like, you look like a hard dude. Okay. I don't look like a hard dude.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Scott Brown. Scott Brown ball. Yeah. You kind of look like Scott Brown. Yeah, you take that. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:09:24 There's like, you get now, all of a sudden, everybody who's done this is DMing and tweeting at me. You look great. Welcome to the club. Scott Ben Belza. It's a lot of menacing. It's one of the funniest words I've ever heard. Menacing.
Starting point is 00:09:40 It's so perfect. Ready to commit a crime. Well, has, like, anyone weighed in that, like, in the golf world? Has, like, has Kisner message you? And, like, what the hell did you do to your head? I don't think Kiz has said anything about it. Kiz has been deep in my swing with me right now. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like big time. He's been texting me. So I go to the range. I send him videos. I'm actually going to make a whole video out of it. That's pretty much all Kiz is now only focused on my swing and me trying to get more upright with my swing. So I'm not so flat at my back swing.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He's been doing little drills with me. So I'm out on the range with my fucking tripod trying to get my, and then sending him to Kiz. And then he's, it's a little bit. it rattling because kids doesn't sugarcoat anything. So I'll like, I'll feel like I've completely changed my swing and send him a video and he'll just say, nope, that's what
Starting point is 00:10:29 he'll say to it. Wrong. Damn. Wrong. Bad. Like. Well, stunning. Stunning. Stunning, stunning, stunning stuff. Eye opening, shocking. Are you talking about your facial layer right now? It could be. Yeah. This is going nowhere. At some point, I'm just going to give up, right?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Like, it's going nowhere. It's been two and a half weeks. And it's just, I just, I just, can't girl facial. So at that point, like, it's just, I'm just going to have a baby face forever. It is what it is. We got, um, we got some things to say. We've got Kyle and Morcau on the show, 23 year old, part of the kind of trio of young guys that have won at very young age. He, Matt Wolf, Victor Hovland, get a ton of press as being like the new young guard on the PGA tour. We talked with Colin for about 52 minutes, something like that. Awesome guy. He's, um, it was actually pretty fascinating. We got into like golf superstitions. And we did.
Starting point is 00:11:21 that whole bit that we haven't done in a long time with golf. He's like, no, it's just a routine. It's not a superstition. Got into a lot of his approach. We talked John Deere Classic, which was kind of an important event for him. It was hard to tell. Way more John Deer Classic Talk than I anticipated. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And it was actually just a fascinating chat, really good guy. They do, they foster dogs now. He and his girlfriend, so he's just a great guy. And we had a good time with him. So that's coming up in a few minutes, Colin Moracawa, first time we've had him on the show. And then our travel show. We're finally launching a travel show.
Starting point is 00:11:52 People will message us all the time, wondering where the North Carolina content is for November. We have completed and are insanely proud of the Tobacco Road videos. So you folks listening today on Tuesday, April 28th, at 1 p.m. Eastern. That puppy's going live on Barshaltsport.com on YouTube. We put the teaser out already. It's like almost 40 minutes, somewhere between 35, 40 minutes long. We've got narration.
Starting point is 00:12:17 That's amazing and hilarious. We've got us playing Tobacco Road. we've got like a full day of drone footage that we did all spliced in with interviews it's informational it is aesthetically sort of stunning the footage that we were able to get and then you've also got our pathetic golf games going through this mike strant's torture chamber of a golf course it's phenomenal it's available 1 p.m. Eastern on Tuesday April 28 2000 yes so we were just saying before we've been going through like the final edits of it it's been forever since we've released anything from like the like or we haven't really said anything but it's been forever since we've been
Starting point is 00:12:54 there we've been talking about tobacco road nonstop if you if anyone listening to this is like me and you're just like the casual like golfer where you may not know every single golf course in the world tobacco road's a place that you may not have ever heard of like i hadn't um you hear about piner so you don't know at this place whatever 35 40 minutes away is like one of the best golf courses you'll ever play or ever see um last night we were um watching it down for the first time and you know I had my parents with me because, you know, my dad doesn't know what tobacco road is. My mom doesn't really know what golf is. I'm like, why don't you guys watch this video and see what you guys think?
Starting point is 00:13:27 And there was 10 laugh out loud, funny moments throughout this video, this 30-minute video. It is, it's just so much different than anything we put out. And that makes me so much more proud of it because, like, yeah, you can turn on a camera and just watch us hit 18, go 18 holes with Kevin Kessner. And it could be an hour-long video. And that video, that has like 400,000 views on YouTube. It did well on the site and everything like, everything like that. But this video is like genuinely like entertaining to me. Like it has we had Joey Molinaro.
Starting point is 00:13:56 He did the announcing for it. He did the narration. He's hilarious on it. All the drone footage. We have all the storyline. It's engaging. It's informative. It tells you every single story about the first tea to the 18th green.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And it's just something that like, and I was telling you guys this before. Like sometimes when I watch our own videos, I can't like, me personally, I can't like watch myself in a video. I'm just like, look how, like, cringy I am, like, out there just, like, hitting a million shots into the woods, whatever it is. Like, it gets boring to me after a while. This video, I could, I watched from beginning to end and I was, like, actually into it. And that's why I'm so excited about it. Like, I'm like, this is something that I would search, be like, oh, what does Tobacco Road look like?
Starting point is 00:14:35 I want to go watch that video and see how a bunch of fucking idiots played it. And, like, what happens when you play? Because I want to go there with my buddies one day and play that golf course. Yeah, I think overall, it's the most impressive thing. we've ever done. Like, when we get an interview with Tiger Woods or something, he like makes that because he's Tiger Woods. But this was us. Like we went, we filmed everything that you're going to see. We edited it. We came up with the creative ideas. We all worked together, put our input in, except for Lurgey wasn't there. We had, producer Brendan's been combing through it, ebug,
Starting point is 00:15:11 for months now, several weeks, months. He had to learn all of the material because he wasn't there. Jake was there running around filming the whole thing. We've had several meetings putting all of our minds together, trying to figure out which direction it should go. Should it be more golfy? Should we show every shot? Should it be more kind of drone? Should it be a mix of like some videos that we found on YouTube?
Starting point is 00:15:31 And we just have been collaborating and working together forever to get it right and come up with something that we kind of all agreed on the vision and how to present it. And it came out fucking awesome. It's probably the coolest thing that I think. think we've done. It's the thing that I'm like most proud of. And again, it's also something that it wasn't driven by one person. It was almost like King Arthur's round table of us just kind of sitting down multiple times being like, all right, what do you think? What do you think? Oh, yeah, that is a good idea. Frankie, you have a ton of editing experience over the last four years with Dave and you've
Starting point is 00:16:06 been working with Brendan and Jake. And then we've been putting in our creative input. And then it's got Trent's fucking hilarious moments and comments from the cabin, from you two sleeping together in the cabin to like all of a sudden it hits you with a fucking drone shot. Then it's these crazy mounds. Then it's a lake. Then it's like hilarious narration from. It's just like it's amazing. So I'm pumped for people to see it'll be on YouTube and barstful sports.com at 1 p.m.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Eastern. And it'll be on the internet forever. It's something also that like I'm confident where I'm going to send to my buddies and be like, take 30 minutes out of your day and watch this. And I feel confident that they're going to enjoy it. Like a lot of times it's like, yo like like I've even sat down with my friends in my, my apartment, which I'll probably never end up going back to at this point in the city. I'm just like never going back to the city.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And like we've sat down and watched a video. And at some point, like you see them go to their phone or whatever. It's like an hour long video. And they're like, all right. And I kind of'm like, all right, yeah, we don't have to watch us anymore. It's fine. But this is like, watch it from beginning to end and you guys are going to fucking enjoy it. Like it's a fucking regular documentary on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:17:04 This is just called Tobacco Road. It's really good. I mean, there's so much, like, congrats to all you guys. Because like the blood, sweat and tears to make it happen. I mean, this trip started. It means a lot, large. when we booked that, when we went to Jake Owen's event and Trent nearly had a panic attack and died. I mean, that was the start of that trip.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And then I had to fly home after that. And then I said goodbye to you guys as you went on this like amazing trip. I had to go back and sell software. But it is a phenomenal content. And also it's going to be, it's going to do tremendous in terms of views. But not, that's just your side. Like from the viewer standpoint, like it is good, funny like content. And it's also educational in terms of like tobacco road and that course.
Starting point is 00:17:42 It's so educational. It's so sweet. You see every single crevice of the golf course from T to Green through a drone. It's perfect. And also the last thing I'll say is like this was our first one we did. So we went on to do like Pinehurst number eight and number four and number two after that. Like this was our first, our first one we did. And, you know, we didn't know every, like we didn't know how to do it exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And it's still this good. Like wait until you see like the Pinehurst ones when we get caddies involved and like the fucking. presidents of pioneers and all this stuff. Like it gets so much more in depth with the storylines and it's so cool. But yeah, I'm really excited for it. Whoever's listening to this, you may have already watched it or you have to go stop and watch it today. I mean, you got nothing else to do. Nothing else to do.
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Starting point is 00:19:47 Owensmixers.com. I made an ace yesterday, kind of. That's exactly how you explained it to everybody. Like, when we're talking about what the term is, it's that. And we have talked about this at length on this show.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's been submitted as a from the gallery. If I get an ace on a par three course or a little dinky hole that's like 80 yards, does it count? I went out and did it yesterday. I'm going to preface it. I think that it's like you say, well, I got it on the cradle. I think that's how you explain it.
Starting point is 00:20:20 But I fucking did it. I have a hat that says cradle on it right here. I have a belt that's, oh, no, I can't do that because I got headphones on. But my point is, I love the cradle so much. I've been talking a lot about the cradle. I have a belt and a hat that says cradle. Now I have a whole one on the cradle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So I feel like one of us doing it makes me think it's less real. right i don't know if that makes any sense like the fact that you were able to just go out there and just like get a hole in one on the cradle makes me feel like well like anyone can go out there and get a whole one in the cradle like when you hear other people like oh if i got on a par three i'd be like all right yeah that's impressive to me i don't like how are you feeling right now like do you have a hole in one right now you know i was super excited when it the way it happened was it's it's like a it's like a tucked left pin with it's in a little bowl there's like a hill behind it is 78 yards the clubhouse is in the background there was like there was uh
Starting point is 00:21:19 there was like a little left to right wind i hit a full 58 degree wedge it landed maybe eight feet behind it spun back it took probably from the minute it landed to the minute it went in the whole probably took like seven seconds or something so it like trickled down the hill stopped on the edge and everyone was like no way and then it fell in and we went crazy like we went nuts uh and everyone's later's like i got a ton of adrenaline like it was literally producer brendan has come down so we can work on a lot of this stuff together he had gotten here like an hour beforehand and was like holy shit he was going nuts trying to film stuff so it was super exciting but it was not as exciting as if i got an a set like a full
Starting point is 00:21:57 18 hole course if if we're playing tobacco road on the third hole and i drained one it's not on that level right but like it was almost i was telling you people I said it was almost more relieving that like I got one on the cradle because you're like you're at pioneers for two months played the cradle 74 times and how many aces did you have and I I don't want to be like zero so at least I can always say I have that photo I did it I hit the ball once on a hole and it went into the hole and I wrote down a one on the scorecard so that's just what it is because the cradle on but the original question was do you have a hole in one and then you went for a five minute ordeal about hitting a 58 degree wedge that went behind the hole and spun back
Starting point is 00:22:36 It was off of mat too. Yeah, exactly. The question is, do you have a whole? Yeah, the question is. You left out that it was off a mat. So when you're talking about spinning eight feet back towards the hole, I mean, that could be. Just let them. So is it a yes or no?
Starting point is 00:22:50 I hit the ball once. So no. You walked a goal guy. I played a golf hole in one shot. What is your plan? You walk up to a bar. How many, how many shots did you play that golf hole in? I played that hole in one.
Starting point is 00:23:05 What's your plan? You walk up to a bar. You got that bald head of yours. You walk up to a guy. He said, can I get a, can I get a old mixer and vodka? He says, sure. And he says, hey, man, you ever, you ever get a whole in one before? What are you saying? I say, well. I think you start with well. So well is equal to now. Well, what's the point of like dimension? Because you can't definitely answer yes. So you can't definitively answer yes. So if you got one on the cradle, if you got one on the cradle, Lurch, you've played the cradle, how cool. It is iconic. It sits right in front of the fucking clubhouse of Piner's.
Starting point is 00:23:39 You did what I've done. Someone asked you, have you ever got to hold one? You just say no and then leave it at that? No, I'd say, would do par three count. I'd answer his question with a question. Yeah, but you always do that. That's why it's impossible to have a conversation with you. You sting.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So frustrated. So frustrated. Riggs, what's your plan for the scorecard? What are you going to do? You're going to proudly display it? Are you just going to kind of keep it? Oh, yeah. No, no, I'll keep it and display it.
Starting point is 00:24:07 You should. And power to you. Honestly, that's amazing. The excitement level is incredible. I'm just saying you never got a whole in one. But I mean, I played the hole in one show. Right. You got a hole in one on a par three course, which is great off of that.
Starting point is 00:24:23 But you don't have like a legit hole in one. Now, I think that that is less legitimate than like if I had hit a hole in one at Cherry Valley when it was like a half, it was a par four turned into a. part three, right? Like, that's at least more like I don't know. What? Really? Really. It's just a, it's a hole on the golf course that they like standing on a real golf course makes a difference. Right? Like I hate a hundred. It's a real golf course. You're hitting off a mat. Because the conditions. They always have a mat over there. We got to figure that shit out at the cradle. But here's the I love the mat. I, when we play the cradle there are mats and I couldn't have been
Starting point is 00:24:59 happier. It makes it easier. And here's the other thing. I don't know. You know what? Because I often said that like it is technically a whole one it's just you have to have a story behind it you can't say you have to say well you have to say well you have to say well you have to say well you have to say well i will say at least your answer starts with well and mine just starts with no right right my answer's better than your guy's answer totally the other thing about the cradle of a whole and one because you have more confidence that you believe you can do it like i don't even know really if i fundamentally feel that inside like i think i can i don't know if i believe i can't i think now that you've made one like that you start to think like Oh, this hole is getting... Here's the thing about the cradle, though, is that when you play the cradle, every shot, you're trying to make a hole in one. Yep. And there's more chances.
Starting point is 00:25:45 That's why it's a great thing. But that's like, that's your goal is to try and get a hole in one there. So that's why it's a little more... I achieved my goal, have you? Right, but, like, that's why it's a little more like fairy tale gum drops and all that. Like, the goal of that hole is to make a hole in one. Like, that's like why you're out. out there. Like when you're playing a regular round of golf, your goal is not to have the ball
Starting point is 00:26:08 go in the hole the first time. You're trying to shoot a good score. There's definitely goals should be to get the ball in one. Well, like, that's not like what you're not repeatedly doing. Like when you play the cradle, like, I need to get a hole in one here. Like that's like what the goal here is. Yeah. Ball in the hole. Yeah. I mean, I get it. The other tidbit of your story that jumped out at me was you said you played the cradle 74 times. Does that have any validity to it? Not that many, but it's a lot. How many people got a hole in one at the cradle? What's that number like?
Starting point is 00:26:38 I was the 410th. And when did it open last year? Special group. A couple of years ago. Almost a hole in one a day. I will also say you probably have the lowest percentage of hole in ones to hold two holes played in the cradle as well. Maybe. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:26:59 He's played the cradle more than anyone I bet that's on that list. No, I haven't. Really? No chance. People work there probably. Oh my God. People play it. There's members.
Starting point is 00:27:09 I mean, Pioneers has like hundreds or if not thousands of members that play it all the time. True, but they have to be on that list. I'd be interested in now. I mean, whole one's a hard thing to get, Lurch. It is. That's you. Honestly, congrats. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Nor do you. But you're closer than I. My answer is better than yours. It is without question. It will be better than years until you record a one on a score card. Well, I've done it actually on a mini golf course. So where does that stand? I've drained 110-yard shot on the Bethpage Red 11th hole for an eagle.
Starting point is 00:27:44 That's a hole in two. But it's just longer than his. A hole in two. Anyways, that's awesome. It's really cool. Thank you, Lurch. That's very nice thing for you to say. Can you get a plaque or anything?
Starting point is 00:27:56 I guess things are kind of shut down. You don't really get anything. No, they give you a little chip. Oh. It's like a poker chip. but says cradle logo on one side, then it says hole in one, a hole number two on the other side of it.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Maybe that hair was holding you back all these years. Now you're just going to be drilling holes. It's just a sick. Oh, yeah, brother. Was that supposed to be a roast? That didn't really make that much sense. I'm just saying maybe, like, maybe they're just a new guy.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I wasn't supposed to be a roast. I'm saying maybe like that hair was holding you back. I did buy that golf bag and then shaved my head and I made an ace. That's what I mean. Times are changing. Watch out. I'm also playing a golf magic against a 12-year-old. I saw that. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:36 He's definitely going to beat you, by the way. There's no way this dad has that much confidence unless this kid's going to beat you. Dude, 12-year-olds are probably sick. Like, a good 12-year-old is probably incredible at golf. Because think about what that kid, Blake is like eight years old that tweets at us. Yeah. We had another four years of growing and like swing speed and power. And this kid plays that what the guy said is like the nicest club in all of North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:29:01 So, like, they got money and they are, you know, the kids probably had the best fucking coaches of all time. He's probably elite. He's roughly a 12-year-old. Sorry, he's seventh grade. Yeah, seventh grade, right? Those seventh graders can play senior golf. You know, you always hear those stories. They get called up to high school.
Starting point is 00:29:21 In the Walker Cup, we ran into a couple kids. Like, one kid was a freshman or something in high school out of Connecticut. Residents Cup? Yeah, but the junior team. Isn't that the Walker Cup? no what's the what's the what's the president juniors a different a different thing what's the president uh that we saw i think it's just called the junior president yeah i think so okay um anyways he was he was he was like a freshman i think from a connecticut and like if he's on that team i mean he would
Starting point is 00:29:45 beat me by a thousand i don't know what the number is but yeah i mean he's fucking 12 right like there's no way like i have to be able to hit it way far than he can right he's 12 i don't think like the age difference matters that much like if you're 30 and he's 12 like from your age 20 to 30. All those numbers don't matter. So, like, there's only a certain number where it should be, like, there, I'm trying to put my thought into words here, and I can't seem to figure out how to explain what I mean.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Like, at some point, like, Briggs's game doesn't change that much from 20 to 30 in terms of distance. Right. Like, your numbers already, like, like, once you hit, like, 18, like that's who you are as a golfer, I feel. Like, like, distance-wise, all that shit. So he's, like, not that far behind. I agree.
Starting point is 00:30:25 But, like, he's not, right? So there's, like, a cutoff, right? Like, once he's 18, it's the same fucking thing. But he's not. He's 12. Right. So he's like six years behind. He's like six years of development and strength behind.
Starting point is 00:30:37 He's a child. He's not like, what I'm saying, he's not like 26 years behind you in like speed and strength and and arm and eye accuracy and hand eye coordination and shit. He's like right there. He could put high school golf. Like you could lose to a high school golfer.
Starting point is 00:30:51 He probably hasn't had his first kiss. Getting close. You're right. That's close. He's going to play me in golf. Well, you take off that hat, you might scare him off to people.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Oh, you think I'm not going. going hatless. There will be, there might not be a match if you take the hat off. They're like, come on,
Starting point is 00:31:08 Jimmy, we're going home. That had come with a 200 foot distance from, from schools. Well, now you think I look like a,
Starting point is 00:31:14 a mole of, no, no, no, no, do I try and tell me? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You murder him first. Oh. That's, that's, that's, that got dark, got dark, I know.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It just got, that was like, what's what's the silence here? Like, what's lurch doing? What are you looking at? So I'm, I'm trying to read up stats on the best
Starting point is 00:31:33 The best... Children, golfer, while we're talking about what we're talking. I mean, it's been a weird... You guys are talking about killing kids. What did you put in? I mean, sorry, I'm looking at a statistic. Like, oh, who's the bad guy in the room? What did you put into Google for that?
Starting point is 00:31:51 12-year-old golfers. Best 12-year-olds in the world. I put like how far... Yeah, you might have somebody coming to your home there, buddy. Black helicopter above your... Go ahead and lock that door quickly. you feel confident that you're going to win this thing it sounds that way no oh okay no i'm confident that like i'll have a chance because he's 12 i mean his his big dm to me was like can you please
Starting point is 00:32:15 follow me on instagram i think he shoots i think he shoots like a 78 at his home course and and rosses you i think he shoots like 88 he shoots like i think he shoots like 87 88 and he beats you you by 10 strokes are you giving him any strokes are he giving you any strokes no straight up he's 12 frank I know, but I mean, the confidence is... And a match play, stroke play? What are you guys playing? Probably match play. I mean, he, like, he's going to beat you for sure.
Starting point is 00:32:46 He's going to kill you. He can't drive a car legally for four years. None of these things that you're talking about are distractions away from golf game. You being, like, having girls around, that distracts me from being good at golf. He doesn't have any of that. All he does is play golf. he probably gets fucking distracted by cartoons and hey i don't know like what
Starting point is 00:33:07 he's fucking 12 he's 12 i think that's the sweet spot to be your best because you're not distracted by things you're too old for cartoons and you're too young for girls and you're oh he's distracted by like zits and stuff you know like he cares about that stuff he's 12 it's been so long you know like a sugar i've got a bunch of like snickers bars
Starting point is 00:33:30 and twicks on the person and have him eat that up and then he could be all jittering. That's a good call. Kids can't resist candy. That's a really good call. I'm going to bring a kid a bunch of candy. That's really genius. I thought so.
Starting point is 00:33:42 That'll be interesting, though. I just think 12-year-olds are like, I think, yeah, I don't know. I think he's probably a really good golfer by now. Yeah, that's the one thing that none of us know, right? His dad just reached out and said he's a good golfer, but like we don't know if he's. That kid, Blake, if he's eight or seven or over old that kid is, and you had another five years or four years to that kid? Double is development.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yeah, but Blake finished like seventh in like the world for eight-year-olds. Like, I don't know that this kid. Who the fuck is this kid? I don't know who this kid is. Right. They just throw a lot of curse words at this kid. I got to be as mean as I can to him. I want him to be rattled.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I don't like, I didn't present the challenge. They're the ones to challenge me. So, you can't be too mean to a 12-year-old. We'll find out. Look at his haircut. Yeah, true. I should look at him. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I'm going to get murdered today. Yeah, big match. I think we're going to do a Friday. CCNC is supposed to be awesome, by the way. Really cool spot. Haven't been there. Good luck. I mean, from, I think we've got to be on your side.
Starting point is 00:34:44 You know, we can't have to be. Once the one guy on the podcast. You got to beat the 12-year-old. Yeah. Represent the show and I'm disgusted by a 12-year-old. Because then, like, I think at some point we're going to face that kid Blake to have to. And, like, I'll lose that one. So we can't have, we can't have.
Starting point is 00:35:00 we can't lose to a 12 and an 8-year-old because we have to be better than that. I love Frank who's talking about up to an L already. So we're at the podcast. Dude, I was thinking about this. I was talking about this for someone else. If I play Blake from regular 6,400 T's, I think I lose. But that's another conversation. I think he's just, even if it takes him two shots to get to my second, my first,
Starting point is 00:35:19 I think from there on, from my second shot in, he beats me every time. From 160 yards in, he beats me from that spot every single time. What do you mean? No, dude. You've been shooting like low. ladies a lot lately, right? Yeah, but he would get in my head. I would shoot 95, 96, no problem.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Because I could do that easily. I just think, like, well, I don't know. Anyways, that is a conversation because, like, let's he get a hit for 170. But Riggs, I'm behind you. Come on, let's get the, let's beat our first teenager. Or 98 teenager. He's 12.
Starting point is 00:35:48 He's 19. Preteen. Preteen. Preteen. He, dude, he, when I was 21, he was seaman. Oh, tough one. We might have to. I'm saying it's just biological.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's not to understand biology. Yeah. I do. I mean, he could have been a thought at that point. How did you know he was really being worked up? Well, I was trying to make a point.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You got it. I think we're good. What are other topics do we have today? You don't want to talk about this preteen getting just dominated by me on the golf course? Briggs is walking around now. My laptop's at 4% and I wanted to die. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:27 I got to, yeah, mine's dying. too here. Hold on. I'm going to plug it in. I broke news last week, but nobody seemed to pick it up. How'd that feel? Bad. It's kind of bullshit. This thing is happening. I'm right. Oh, that's bright. The DJ, what is it? It's DJ, Rory, Hovlin Fowler?
Starting point is 00:36:53 Matt Wolf Fowler. Wolf Fowler. In his game. It's happening. I mean, it definitely got overshadowed just, because people are so jacked up about the Tiger, Phil, Peyton, Brady thing that I don't think... Really jacked. He's really, really, really, really, really, really...
Starting point is 00:37:07 Really tough out there to be against us. Like, if that, if that news had broken, if you had broken that news before, that stuff got confirmed, and Tiger started talking shit, and Tom Brady started putting up memes of Peyton and Tiger as toddlers, I think the, uh, Riggs's news goes a little further,
Starting point is 00:37:25 but, you know, it's just, it's not as an enticing match as the other one. Should we get to Collmore, Kyle? Yeah, I think so. I think the real news here is to go watch Tobacco Road, if you haven't already. Watch it multiple times. Send it to your buddies. Be like, yo, we got to go play here.
Starting point is 00:37:44 This is a time in which watching things on TV, everyone's looking for something to binge. Everyone's looking for some sort of new documentary. Everyone's looking for new information to fill your noggin with. And this is an informative, entertaining video on tobacco. Road, one of the most incredible golf courses you'll see. And I think it's so worth sending it out and watching it and getting that conversation going about booking your next trip to Tobacco Road. I couldn't agree more.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I think the episode is going to blow people away. I know we've talked about it a lot, but it's fucking awesome. I'm pumped for people to see it. And like you said, Frankie, we've got three more episodes coming shortly after it within a couple weeks or so that are going to be piner's, basically full piner's, Pioneer's number eight, Pioneers number two, Pioneer's number four, all that jazz, what it's like to go to Pioneers and experience it for the first time. Seems crazy because I've been here, you know, for seven weeks now.
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Starting point is 00:40:00 or it's free guarantee. Tommy John, no adjustment needed. That's Tommyjohn.com slash 4C, the site for details. Colin Morikawa is up next. Anybody got anything to add before we go to Colin? No, I'm just happy that skins game got as much traction on this podcast as it did on your tweet. So that was all good.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Look, my tweet got some traction and go, fuck yourself, but it's just nowhere near. Like you can't hit me with Tiger and Phil and Peyton and Tom Brady and then try to hit me with fucking Matt Wolf and Ricky Fowler against Rory and DJ. Rory's awesome. Rory's one of the great figures in the world of sports. He's fucking candid.
Starting point is 00:40:41 He's raw. He's got more swagger the way he walks. He's a phenomenal player, the best in the world right now. And DJ could be interesting, like micing him up. He's typically boring. He might be really boring. but I think his game is so interesting that mixing that up with an opportunity to actually hear him talk could be really cool.
Starting point is 00:40:57 But like, Ricky's pretty fucking boring. Like, yeah, he wears the orange, which is childish. Ricky's pretty boring. Matt Wolfe, we talk about him in this interview in a few minutes. Like, he's definitely supposed to have some personality and be funny. He's seen some good stuff. But like, he ain't on the star power level of these other names. So you can't hit me with that after you've hit me with the Tiger Phil, Tom Brady, Peyton, Mann, and you just can't do it.
Starting point is 00:41:17 Right. I agree. I agree. Kyle Moore. Kyle was up next. We will be back on Thursday. Everybody go watch Tobacco Road 1 p.m. Eastern on the 28th of April. YouTube for play golf, barstrelsports.com.
Starting point is 00:41:31 We will be back on Thursday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. All right, folks. Quarantine week. Question mark, question mark, question mark. Nobody knows, but we are joined by a very special guest, PGA tour winner before the age of 23.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Part of the young crew that everybody's talking about that's making waves. in golf and will continue to hopefully whatever golf returns. Colin Moracawa, where are you joining us from today? I'm currently in my house in Vegas now. So I just moved out here since I've turned pro. Cool place to be for sure. Vegas is great. Why did you choose Vegas? You know, being a West Coast guy, I mean, I think for me,
Starting point is 00:42:13 L.A. is always going to be home. You know, I'm never going to, like, leave L.A. or want to leave L.A., but I wanted to stay West Coast. And it came down to either Scottsdale or Vegas. and I knew a bunch of guys in Vegas. To me, I think the food's better in Vegas, and that's like a huge part on where I'm going to live. And, yeah, I mean, everything worked out.
Starting point is 00:42:31 It's slowly starting to get really hot. It's almost hitting 100 out here, so you'll be miserable by 10 a.m. Food. I mean, what kind of, where you got, like some, there's like two restaurants or something that made you say, I got to go to Vegas, or what is it? No, I mean, just, I think everything, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I love to try new food, but I also love to just go out to a really nice restaurant or just like a hole in the wall that has just amazing food. And I think Vegas, you know, has everything, you know, from whatever you want, whatever time of day, it's got whatever you need. So it just made sense. And, you know, we're still trying to figure out places to go, new places to go. And it's cool to go on the strip sometimes and, you know, have a good dinner out there as well.
Starting point is 00:43:12 It's funny. I was doing, you know, I was reading a few articles and of the crew of you, Matt Wolf, Victor Hovlin, they all paint you by far as the most mature. and then you're like the Vegas guys. So I feel like those two things I didn't expect that. I mean, I think you've got to be somewhat mature to me to Vegas or else, you know, everything would have been spent and I'd be living on the streets by now.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So, yeah, you know, I mean, I am older than those guys. Those guys bring a lot of excitement and fun. And I think all of us just kind of, you know, we bring our own selves to what, you know, the PGA tour is now. And I think that's what you have to do. You can't. I think if we were all the same, it wouldn't be as fun watching us, and it wouldn't be the same just kind of getting to know us because then it'd be like, oh, we've got three of the same guys here,
Starting point is 00:43:59 you know, which one, which guy looks better. But that's not what it's about. You know, I think each one of us kind of brings our own little niche to it. Yeah, it's funny. I was, you know, you guys, like I said, the three of you and you've come up, you've all won at a very young age, and you've kind of become this new wave after the JT and Spieth and all them of it's, kind of you three. And I was going through some of these quotes. And they're all talking about, A, you like your, you know, Mr. Goody Tooshoes, the most mature guy in the world. And then in all these quotes, you guys are just roasting Matt Wolf, like he's the biggest cloud of the world. I think you said, like, you're like, I'd say I'm fairly mature compared to these two at least. And
Starting point is 00:44:43 then Matt Wolfe's like, I'm definitely the most immature. So is that guy just like a total cloud or what? I think you just takes it to heart. I mean, the kid, he, He's a kid. You know, we call him a kid and yeah, he's like two, maybe three years younger than me, but, you know, he is a kid. He's a kid in my heart and he's a kid like as a friend. And I think he takes that, you know, as his part. And that's who he needs to be. That's, you know, how he is on the course. He's just, I mean, yes, you know, he's mature when it has to, when it comes down to playing golf. But, you know, when you talk to him on the course and you're playing with him, even in tournament, that's kind of the nature he brings. He brings that really fun. kid-like attitude out there. And, you know, that's different than what Victor will have. It's different than what I'm going to have. And it's just, that's who you're going to be. And that's what you have to embrace. And for us, like, if we started to change that because we were on the PJ tour now, that's when things would have went, you know, sideways. And, you know, you would have seen just not who we were and we wouldn't have played as well.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Do you feel like you're part of, like, a crew of three? Kind of. You know, it's not like I'm hanging out with these guys 24-7. I mean, Matt, Victor, have to be a lot closer because those guys spent a couple of years in college together. Right. But yeah, I mean, it's weird because we're not all the same age. And normally you guys group people together, like, you know, this is the class of whatever. Like that JT class, you know, all those guys were the same age and it's crazy to put them all together.
Starting point is 00:46:08 But we're all different ages. We're all, you know, we all grew up kind of apart from each other, even though Matt and I grew up like 30 minutes. So, yeah, you know, it's weird being classed with these guys, but, you know, that's, what happened this summer. You know, we all turn pro at the same time, and that's how we're always going to be classed, I think, for the rest of our lives. Who are your guys growing up?
Starting point is 00:46:29 Because you are part of this new wave, and obviously Tiger spawns this JT. Speeth generation. Who are your kind of guys when you were growing up that you looked up to? Oh, I mean, Tiger Woods. Yeah. How could it not be? Because you, I mean, you're 23. I mean, you're so you were just very young when it was all happening.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I know you can go on YouTube and watch it all, but you were very young when all that was going on. Yeah, but I mean, you know, when I took up the game pretty much when I started walking before I was walking. And by the time, you know, I'm 7, 8, 9, that's, you know, Tiger's still playing golf. He's still winning tournaments. And for me, like, that's the guy who pretty much changed golf. And, like, you only saw Tiger. I was only interested in what Tiger were you doing. You know, you look at guys now and I'm playing on the PGA tour with whatever, Rory Macquarie McBer, Brooks, Kevka, whatever, you know, JT.
Starting point is 00:47:19 and these guys are winning tournaments, but they're not guys that I watched growing up. You know, even in college and in high school, like, I didn't care about what these guys were doing because, well, you know, granted, some of them were still in college, but, you know, it was just Tiger. What was Tiger doing? When am I going to be able to play with him if I'm going to even be able to play with him? That was always a hope, you know, when he got older, who knows when I was going to be able to get out here. So it's pretty cool now to say I've been able to play with him and gets known. Frankie appears has joined the show. Hello.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Frankie. You have the Wi-Fi working at your girlfriend's place? Yeah. I mean, I don't know what's more a detriment to society, the way that I just sped down Carmen Avenue in Long Island or this mustache that I'm trying to grow. Let's do that. I don't know which one's worse, but how's it going, Colin?
Starting point is 00:48:09 I'm sorry for being late here. This is that quarantine episode. You know, Wi-Fi at the parents' house wasn't working too well. Had to adapt. Oh, good. No, good. Don't worry about it. Is that just sheer panic, Frankie, as you bolted out of there?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Dude, 1253, I'm like, let's log into the old podcast thing. And then it's just like, this does not work. I'm like running around my house like I was 18 years old being like, ma, the Wi-Fi. It was a nightmare. Well, welcome, Frankie. Thank you for joining. Colin, do you think you would even be a professional golfer if it weren't for Tiger Woods?
Starting point is 00:48:47 That's a tough one. Yeah, I think I still would be. But I think the game of golf would be so different. You know, like everything from TV to the money we win to just fans in general. Like it just wouldn't be there. And yeah, you know, as a little kid, you see like you see what Tiger is doing. You see what he's making. You see all the fans.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You see, you know, just the pure dominance. And, you know, talk about the last dance of what I'm watching these things about MJ, like crazy stuff. And that's, you know, as a kid, I think you want to have those dreams of being that person. And when you grow up, you know, you just want to turn into yourself and create a name for yourself now. But yeah, I still think I would have played golf. If not, it still would have been some sport. You know, like I just love, you know, competing. I love sports.
Starting point is 00:49:38 That's just my life. And it always has been. Does I'm curious, like, does watching documentary like the MJ one or anything like that, does that just send you straight to like your putting mat or you're like your your chipping net like do you get super because even me like when you're watching these things about greatness I'm like how can we book more guests how can we put out better videos like how can I be the best fucking me of all time because you're watching this greatness does that does that type of stuff just light of fire and you're like I can't wait to play golf again slowly I mean Vegas has been closed for about a week and a half and I know they're closed until
Starting point is 00:50:11 the end of the month and I don't know what the beginning of May will look like but up and Until last week, I hadn't really felt the need to really go out there. But as this month has slowly started to end and I've watched, you know, the last dance and all this stuff, like I am itching to get out there. I am just, I'm like shaking to get out and hit a golf ball because I just, I want to go out and play. Like I want to go out and play, not just practice, but like compete. Because that's like, that's what we live for.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And like, that's just who we are down in heart. Like we're just competitors. And that's all I want to do. So like now I'm trying to figure out ways, how can I like put my competition side, you know, into something else? And thankfully, a bunch of a bunch of college guys just texting me this weekend to have a poker tournament every week. So that could either be good or bad. Barcelona sports has teamed up with New Amsterdam Vodka officially create our signature drink. It is the Pink Whitney created by the Chicklets crew.
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Starting point is 00:52:01 New Hampshire and vodka, official vodka, Barstool Sports. Get yourself some Pink Whitney. How's your poker game? Do you play? So we did, I did do this, the MGM charity event, which has, happened like last week. And it was like me, Max Homa sat at her table, Joel Damon, cold nose. And we just all got kind of downpoured by Maria Ho. He was a professional poker player. So we all had no chance, even though we really wanted to. That was fun. That kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:52:33 so intimidating because you know that like she knows that you know nothing. And you're like, yeah, she's just going to clean. And it was online poker and like you couldn't see anyone, but it didn't matter. Like we were still, no matter what we said, it was just a sign for her to know, to know. Getting dominated in a game of poker, too, is like such a, like, it's such a look into your own brain. Like, for me, I'm such a mental midget that, like, I can't, I can't lose in poker without thinking I'm the dumbest person in the world. Like, all right, that person completely is smarter than me in every aspect of their mental game. Like, they knew what card I had before I even got it dealt. And, like, I'm just, I'm just inferior. It's more of like an inferior losing than any other
Starting point is 00:53:12 activity I do is when I lose. The only strategy you can have is that you hope that your lack of strategy confuses them and they don't know what your next move is going to be. The best is when you think you have something and you're like, all right, I raise you and then they just quick call. It's like, well, now maybe I'm not so confident.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Like, well, now maybe I should take a step back and figure out what I'm doing with my life. Because that guy seems to be just playing at my hand like you wouldn't believe. It does sometimes get to the point where you're like, you know what? I'm going to do, I'm going to confuse myself because if I confuse my itself, no fucking way this guy knows what I'm doing because I don't know what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Right, because losing in golf is like, it's a physical thing, right? You just have a better swing than me. You're better at the game of golf than me. You can hit the ball further. You can hit the ball closer to the pin. In poker, we're all dealt the same cards. We should be able to figure it out. But I lose every time I play.
Starting point is 00:53:58 So I just, it just hurts. Not your game. Not your game. Don't play. Yeah, you can't be a good poker play. Colin, do you consume much golf media? Do you watch much golf coverage? Not a lot.
Starting point is 00:54:12 I, to be honest, I haven't watched anything other than when they replayed Tigers win at the Masters. I don't think I've watched more than an hour of golf. It's just not, it doesn't, you know, get me going. I don't watch too much golf. I love watching golf when I'm playing the tournaments because it's kind of cool to see, like, what everyone else is doing sometimes. But if I have an off week, I won't pay attention too much on my, like the leaderboard. But yeah, you know, I know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like that, I just, as a person, like, that's just me, like, OCD. I need to know what's going on around me, what's going on around the world, but I won't dive too much into it. Would you ever, like, would you, if things were normal and it's just kind of a normal week on tour, would you watch, like, Golf Central with like Brandl and the gang kind of like analyzing and breaking stuff down, or do you just stay away for that? Not too much. Sometimes if there's nothing on, I'll throw it on and just leave it on and my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:55:08 just hates me for it because she's like, what are you doing? Like, first off, if I'm playing well, she's like, why are you watching yourself? Like, that's weird. But I'm like, no, I love to see it. I've never seen myself on TV. Like, yes, I'm going to enjoy it. But no, like, I'm not going to listen to, like, how they analyze someone's game. For me, it's like if they have, if I have an afternoon tea time and if you're out of it on in the morning, I might watch some holes.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Like I said, just to see how things are going. But I'm not going to dive too hard into how Brandl Chamberlainbley is going to be. break down my game and just figure out, oh, man, I should work on some chipping tomorrow morning before I go on to you off. Right. Yeah, you know, I'm curious just because with, I mean, we've had Brandel on many times and, and even he'll say, like, hey, to be honest with you, like, how many times can I talk for an hour about different guys' games? So sometimes, like, I'm just like, not that he's saying random shit, but like, I have to go in deeper and he's like, if I were these other guys, I wouldn't be listening either because there's no, right?
Starting point is 00:56:10 There's no way that you're going to be going through your process. You have your team. You have your coach. And they'll be like, actually, guys, I watch Brando on top channel. We're going to kind of work on this new, you know, like there's no way that you would do that. I mean, if you're a player that's doing that right now and you're on the PGA tour, props to you because that's, that's amazing, balancing all that, all what you need to do in order to prep, plus what you hear for the media to change that, that'd be impressive.
Starting point is 00:56:37 So how different is it for you now? you mentioned like just seeing yourself on TV and is that you're still relatively new out there. How is it even weird playing in front of huge galleries? Because not that you haven't played in massive tournaments and had much success throughout your whole career, but like until you get to the top of the top and golf, there's really not massive galleries. And now every week you're just surrounded by tens of thousands of people. Is that weird?
Starting point is 00:57:03 I love it. I think it's all part of it. And like that's why, you know, you hear about a bunch of these guys talking about fans, whether it's for tournaments coming back or the Rider Cup, you know, we live for that. And, like, they add an extra piece of excitement, an extra piece of what we do because they love what we're doing. But, yeah, I think I'm pretty used to it. I mean, I've been able to play with Tiger now.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's like nothing else. And even though that was a Thursday, Friday tea time with him, it was, you know, it's crazy because you wake up in the morning, you go tee off, and it's just lined with fans. And you can't see anyone, you know, one, two, three deep. But then you compare that to what you get at 16 at waste management. And then it's like what just happened. I mean, 16 at waste management preps you for everything in life. Like you will be focused.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I promise you'll be focused at any task you are dealt if you go play 16 at waste management on a whatever, Friday or Saturday. Just because like it's just the noise and then you feel the excitement because you're hitting a pitching wedge into the hole, like into the, like into the green, that's all you're hitting. And yeah, we're missing greens. We're making bogeys. So, like, even go into when I played 16 at Sawgrass at the players, like, it didn't feel as bad because I had already played with Tiger. I had already played 16 at waste management.
Starting point is 00:58:23 So, yeah, I think that hole is prepped me for my entire life now for whatever crowd's going to come. I'm serious. Like, it's crazy. That felt deep. I didn't know, like, the way 16 of waste management was like, spiritual experience. I don't think they knew that either.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I don't think waste management is going home saying, I'm like, oh, no, we're preparing these golfers for the next stage in life because of his old. Dude, he said, prep you for anything in life. Like, if Collins, the president of the United States, he's going to be like, no, no, I was, I had to hit a shot on 60 waste management. I got this. I'm fucking ready to go.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I'm serious. It is. So they say, too, a lot when you play with Tiger that you got to get used to, like, the fact that the crowd doesn't care what you're doing. So, yeah, so like even when you're, if you're putting out, like if Tiger, if Tiger lags one from 30 feet taps in, but you still have like a five footer for par, by the time you're hitting your five footer for par, everyone's already moving to the next hole. Like, who the fuck is this guy? Is that, like, does that weigh on you the whole time? Or is that a, so it's not, it's not a huge thing. And thankfully my caddy, I've got one of the best caddies out there. I was really lucky to get JJ Jack back on the bag. He knows my personality. And I don't care at all if you're making a noise. Like, he's, like, He will not go out of his way. You know, there are certain caddies out there, certain players. I'm not going to say who, but their caddies will, any noise, they're going to stop.
Starting point is 00:59:46 The player's going to back off. But, like, my catty knows not to even do that. Like, if you're making noises, taking pictures with your phone, whatever, I don't care because I'm still going to go hit. And sometimes they ask, like, oh, do you hear that? Like, I don't hear that. Like, I'm actually that focused on my shot. Sometimes I do hear it. And I'll just laugh it off after.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Like, yeah, I don't care. but yeah i mean when you're playing with tiger you have to get used to that because they're just going to they're going to start walking they're going to make noise and you can't quiet down like a hundred people on their putting green to say oh man like please wait for this guy to finish so on my end yeah you know you have to take that another level to realize they don't care at all you know they didn't care about me they didn't care about john wrong they only cared about what tiger is doing and um yeah i mean it's pretty cool because see that many people go out there and watch him, like, that's what you want to be there.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Also, if you complain about what, you know, things are happening on a Thursday Friday round with Tiger, maybe you don't get paired with them again, you know? Yeah, exactly. You don't want to screw that out. Right. Yeah, I'm curious about, like, what you said in certain, like, are there definitely things out there that you should have heard or that, like, from a physics audio standpoint, you should have heard, but you just didn't because you're so focused?
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah, I mean, there's times, all the times when I'm like teeing off or whatever you might hear like a door shut on a port of potty or, you know, someone yelling across or whatever it is. It's happened a lot and it's going to keep happening. But the thing is like how can you control? Like, you know, when you do have a big crowd, you can't control every single person. And, you know, people are going to make noise. Like I'm sure as a little kid, I've been to a couple events and like kids make noise. Like you can't just stop them. So for me, like it's it's just something you got to get used to, you know, like the worst, to me, the worst parts are sometimes when like marshals are like standing right over your ball or like they're right there. They're on the putting green. It's like, you know, back off a little bit. But other than that, I really could care less, you know, whether we're making noise or not.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I'm a big supporter of the marshals taking a little bit of liberties and being like, yeah, I'm going to get right in that action. my favorite i mean i remember i saw like a video of all these marshals you guys got to watch the marshal at uh number nine at sony open um she's a woman that has been there just look it up she is the most uh exciting marshal there could be off a t shot i mean i can't even explain just lives for it she just lives for like jack it she lives for those four days at sony open remember the guy that almost took tiger out that guy who yeah at the Masters? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 His knees were soaked. He'd been sliding around all day. Like that wasn't his first encounter with the ground that day. Dude, there was one too. I remember at Capulua, there was a Marshall who, like, for whatever reason, his position, it looked like he was just by himself on, like, the edge of a cliff. And he looked like he was, like, waving in a plane, like, one of those guys out of the thing. So marshals, again, if they're, as long as they're all in on it, I live for the marshals
Starting point is 01:02:54 because they get jacked up. So we're going to have to check out the one from Sony. Yes, you will. So I'd be remiss if I didn't mention this, but a couple weeks before you won your first PGA tour event last year, on July 14, 2019, you tied for fourth at the John Deere Classic. With that finish, you locked up your PGA tour membership for the 2019-2020 season. So does the John Deer Classic probably mean more to you than like literally to anyone else in the world?
Starting point is 01:03:24 Probably not. I can't believe that question that come from Trent, I don't know. Probably not. Are you sure? Are you sure? Moline, Illinois. Silvis?
Starting point is 01:03:39 In Silvas. Yeah. Silvis, my bad. I can't even remember. Say one good thing about the John Deer Classic. I love the John Deer Tractor. How could you not? How could you not?
Starting point is 01:03:54 You know, I do remember their ice cream is really good in Plur Dimey. There's another good thing. Hell, yeah. Wow. Yeah, you know, it'll always be really special. I think every single one of those tournaments I played last summer will be really special because that's my first season, my rookie season of being on the PJ tour. But it was obviously so short and it was all my sponsor exemptions.
Starting point is 01:04:21 So I'm never going to forget those events. Yeah, you know, John Deere did mean a lot. summer because I had already that secured my card. I was able to go on and play my next two tournaments, knowing I had somewhere to play next year or in the fall, and then it was just, you know, go out and win. Now, was it more special than I win? No. And then that's not going to be a question mark. But every, you know, that was a special week because after I finished that tournament, my caddy looked at me and after 3M happened, he, you know, he asked me, he's like, you knew you were going to get this done. It still wasn't a guarantee. I still had to make cuts. I still had to play
Starting point is 01:04:57 well to secure a card. And he looked at me. He knew I was going to do it. So yeah, you know, it was a really special week. Played really well and, you know, could be back there again this year. Tret, that's about all, that's the best I could do, man. No, that was, I think that was a great answer. The ice cream and it's special. And it sounds like, sounds like he might be there this year. So could be, could be. Possibly. Possibly. We don't, you know, hopefully everything plans out the way way it should be there. Trent, even during coronavirus, he's not willing to commit to the job game classic.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Can't wait. Are you from there? Are you from? So I'm from the mid, I'm from the Midwest. I'm from Iowa, which is like, I'm from Cedar Rapids,
Starting point is 01:05:38 which is like an hour from the tournament. So it holds a special place in my heart. We just like to give Trent shit because it's like his tournament and they have tractor trailers hitting drives off the first tee. And like, you know, no one plays in it. Like no one in the top 50 plays in the tournament.
Starting point is 01:05:52 and he holds it near and dear to his heart because Zach Johnson apparently moves the needle, even though he's the most boring golfer in the history. But, you know, it's nothing personal against Trent. It's just like, of course, his tournament is the John Deere Classic. It's not like his. That's fair. You got to give him a little crap for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:11 People started calling it the fifth major. No one calls it the fifth major. You know what? I might have not heard that ever. But no, it's a great amount. It is fun. It is fun. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 01:06:22 It is fun. Okay. There you go, Trent. Just giving Trent what he wants to move to the next question. Yeah, he's like, there has to be another question. He's like, all right, it's good enough. Let's keep the movement. There's no way you wanted to talk about the John Deer class.
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Starting point is 01:08:43 the barracuda, did you feel anything, sense anything, was anything different in the game going in, or looking back, was it just another normal week? For me, it was a good tournament to go to because I'd already secured my card. So, you know, playing a barracuda, you're playing with a bunch of guys that are probably around that 125 bubble, probably, you know, trying to keep their card, trying to whatever, earn enough status to play next year, play this year. And, you know, I thought I had a good chance. I had just finished second to three.
Starting point is 01:09:17 I've finished fourth of John Deere. A lot of good things happening. And for me, going into this field, it was like, for me, it just felt like another event, which was great because, you know, like you said, there weren't any really big names playing the barracuda. And then I think the format helped because at the end of the week, after the end of each round, I had no clue what I shot. Like, I did not know anything. I just knew what my points were and that's all I cared about. So I think that kind of helped me because it made me just want to make birdies. You know, if I made a birdie, great.
Starting point is 01:09:48 I had popped on two points on the board. and then if I made a bogey, it was minus one. Like that's really what I was counting. So for me, going into the week, I thought my game was really good. I thought it was trending in the right direction. And I fully believe that I can win. And, you know, things happen since. Yeah, it is interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I guess it makes sense that it would free you up because you kind of, it completely takes you out of your typical mindset of like, okay, bogey, bird, here's where I'm at, how I'm ever's field versus just like, I need to hammer birdies, you get more points for it. And so I could see like the, it makes sense that the getting, getting the card, feeling like you're playing with some freedom from that. And then also being removed from the typical kind of leaderboard and almost like, I don't really know, but I'm just going to make as many bird as I can. And next thing you know, you're like, oh, I'm winning this tournament.
Starting point is 01:10:36 That's, that's cool. Yeah. No, I mean, it's, it's amazing because I still don't know what I shot. I mean, I've got my score cards right up there. And I still, like, I've never really counted how many under I was. But like, yeah, you go into certain events, and I think that's how certain players feel about certain courses. Like, they go to a certain course. It might be your home course.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Might be whatever, whatever tournament. And you just know you're going to play well. It doesn't matter what time of year. It doesn't matter if you've picked up a club. You know, you're going to play well. And, you know, whether it's an average player, it might be one hole. It might be a course. Whatever it is, like we all have that feeling.
Starting point is 01:11:11 I think that's why we go back to wanting to play more golf. And we just want to keep going back out there because we know we, we've had that feeling before and you just want to have it again. You just want to keep having it. Do you have any superstitions in golf? You know, I call them routines because there's there are there. Routines. Yeah, routines.
Starting point is 01:11:34 So I always keep five T's in my pocket to start the round. It's always in my right pocket. My left pocket always has my divot tool that I never use because I always use the T. I've got my ballmarker. and then I've got a pencil and that's, I'm in a large book. Now, would you notice if it got switched up? If what got switched up?
Starting point is 01:11:56 So like, let's say the T-Mart, let's say the divot tool ended up in the right pocket. Are you immediately like, whoa, whoa, let's switch it up. Well, it would never go there. Yeah, he's like, it doesn't just show up in my right pocket. Like, it does, something's off. Like, if we, if someone just put four T's in your pocket, If we didn't let you see how many T's were being put in your pocket,
Starting point is 01:12:18 would you know if it was five or not? No, but I count them. I count them. So when I go to the range, I'll put T's because I got a hit and, you know, I'll count my T's. I've always wondered that with professional athletes who have superstitions like like Brayden Holpe. Routines. Routines like Brayden Holpey on the capitals.
Starting point is 01:12:39 He always does this thing. The Globe of the Capitals will do this thing where he squirts a water and he has to do it before the play resumes in between each stoppage of play. And I always wondered, like, if you just took that water bottle away, would he just short circuit? Like, he does it every single game, his entire career. He scores it up and watches it down. Look at the doll.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Look at the doll. Every single time. Everything. And it's water bottles. Picks the wedgy? Everything. Yeah. Picks the wedge.
Starting point is 01:13:06 Oh, yeah. We also say routines or superstitions because you're talking to four guys that go up to something with no plan whatsoever. All these professionals. Right? They go through a process. They get ready. We just show up to the first thing. Dude,
Starting point is 01:13:17 I just hope to God it works. The other day, like the Pioneer's number four teas are so sweet that the other day, I might have had 37 teas in my pocket when I was. I can't split. I was like walking around like this because I had something. I love, that's one of my favorite parts. I love like finding nice teas like golf courses.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Like that's, trust me. My pockets have been very full that have gone into my golf bag. That, you know, my caddy ended up carrying a bunch of teas for, who knows what reason. That little box on the first tee is some of the best.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Especially when you go to a nice course. It's like Christmas morning. Sometimes though because I go in there and you're like, oh, you've ever been there before? It's like, no. And then you just go in and grab a handful. And he's like, dude, go. You know what? It's all part of it.
Starting point is 01:14:02 It's all part of it. It's like a house that would leave the Halloween candy out. Like that's not. You don't have to knock on my door. It's like, yeah, I'll just take one. And then you're pouring it into your whole bag. Yeah. And you do like you try to, you try to hide it with your body.
Starting point is 01:14:14 You're like grabbing, like as many teas you possibly can so nobody can see. It's also, there's nothing more disappointing than when you open that little box, and it's just a standard like brown wooden tea with no design on it. Yeah. Or I'm not a big fan of plastic teeth. Awful. Awful. I won't do that.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Unless it's a super nice course. That won't stop me. What's the best golf course you've ever played? Are we talking about? what are we talking about like views design so for me right like my my favorite golf course ever played is cabot cliffs but i always tell people i think the best course is shinnock like i think i get it like when i walk off there i'm like that is just the best golf course i've ever played so i think what would be i think a mix i love pebble beach i love it and we had a
Starting point is 01:15:08 us sam there whatever two summers ago and i don't think i truly enjoyed it as much as like should. I should have. And I had played it when I was really young when I was like 10. Didn't remember it. But until I played it at the U.S. Open, I really admired it. And I would go there and play every single day. I played Cyprus. And I played those last few holes. And it is gorgeous. So for me, like, that's hard to compare Cyprus, those last group holes. But if we're talking about full course everything, I love Hubble. I love it. Are you a design guy? Do you get into course architecture much? Not really.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I'm awful. I remember in courses. Sometimes I have to like go through. Like my caddy will ask me, oh yeah, do you remember like whole 12 at John Deere? And I will have to go from whole one. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:15:57 And I was to go for a whole one. All right. Colin, Colin, Colin, you've been great, man. This is,
Starting point is 01:16:04 I need to catch up with you, but we're going to, that was totally fair. And that's just, that's just like, it doesn't, matter if it's John Deere or it's Pebble. Like I'm going to have to start from hole one and I'm going to have to go through the entire course all the way until I get to hold 12.
Starting point is 01:16:20 And that's just me. Like it just hasn't been my thing. I think as I get older, like it would be something I would want to get into because, you know, that's just part of who we are. Like, that's just part of being a golfer, getting to know like the grasses, you know, everything, everything that involves golf. And, you know, as I slowly play more, play more courses and get older, I guess. You know, I think I'll enjoy that. Those aspects of golf a little more, but that's just, that just hasn't been me yet.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Does grass matter to you much? Do you care? Because, like, we're tight with Kisner and Kiz legit, like, won't play po-Anne. Like, anytime he can avoid it, he just won't play because he knows he can't put on it. Like, he makes a few exceptions. Like, he plays the pebble pro-am
Starting point is 01:17:05 because, like, the guy that he plays with is his boy, and he means a lot to him. But other than that, he just hates the, like, the West Coast swing. You obviously, Cal Berkeley. and all that, I imagine you don't really care as much about the grass. Yeah, I mean, growing up in L.A., like, that's all we get. We just get Poe, cuckoo your crab grass, whatever you want to call it. So I'm used to it.
Starting point is 01:17:23 I love it. Like, you can't do anything about it. You can't complain. It's just what you're going to get. So, like, I don't mind. I think I love every part, and that's for me just to figure out my game, how I'm going to play on all these grasses. But, yeah, growing up in L.A., like, you only get one type of grass.
Starting point is 01:17:41 So when I started playing around the country and went to Florida, I went to played piner's. Like, it is eye-opening. And thankfully, I've played enough now that I know what to do. But, you know, it's tough. And for a lot of juniors out there that just play on one type of grass, if you're playing the best grass out there, you're going to be mad when you go figure out how to hit into the grain, uphill, whatever it is. Tight lives, it's tough.
Starting point is 01:18:08 But, you know, it's all part of being a golfer. I think you've got to adjust. because wherever you go is going to be different. Yeah, does it, as a young guy on tour who you haven't been to all of these stops and courses, or at least haven't been to them as many times as a lot of the guys out there, like, do you feel like you have to do more prep work each week to kind of figure out a course, the where to be, where not? Because, like, Tiger could just show up on freaking Wednesday morning,
Starting point is 01:18:31 and he's like, oh, I've already won this tournament eight times, not a big deal. I know all the holes. Do you feel you got to do more work to get ready? Definitely. And, you know, that's just part of being, you know, know, a young guy out on tour, and thankfully, like I said, my caddy's been out there for nine years or so. So he knows every course like the back of his hand, and he's really good with course knowledge. And I trust him, but I have to go out there, whether it's a flyout
Starting point is 01:18:55 Sunday night and start practicing Monday, you know, play nine holes. For me, I want to get in, I like to get in 18 holes before my Wednesday program. Sometimes that's not possible. But, you know, for me, when I go to those programs, I just want to have fun with these guys. I want to go play not map out the course how I want to, like I would on a Monday, Tuesday. So for me, it's, yeah, you know, I got to show up. I mean, there's a bunch of pros in Vegas, but I'll ask me if I want to fly out Tuesday afternoon, Tuesday night for, you know, to get there, show up, play my Wednesday prime. But I can't do that because I just, that'd be really bad for my golf game and the rest of the week.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yeah, you're too mature for that, boys. Nice try, Vegas, guys. Yeah, sure. that. You're pretty much like Tuesday afternoon, you're like, you need to be like ready. And then once Wednesday hits, have fun, pro am, let's be like a little more last, almost like if you compare it to like the masters, it's like by the time the part three tournament comes around, people should be like chill, relax, have fun. Your prep work should be pretty much complete. Yeah, because I feel like, you know, if you're going to compare to like procrastinating, like,
Starting point is 01:20:03 I'm not procrastinating on Wednesday, but I'm just saying like I want to feel like I'm ready. Like if I go out Wednesday and play my program, I want to feel like I can just go out and play the course, like I know it already. And that's going to happen as I go to courses that I've seen already, because I can, I already know what to do. But for a lot of these courses that I haven't played, I want to show up like I'm mentally ready. I'm mentally prepared. So, you know, yeah, you just got to, you got to be ready. And for some guys, that's fine. That's one, that's going to be Wednesday. They feel like they can flip that switch. I just got to flip it a little earlier and slowly work my way into Thursday. Does that help you too with like mental preparation too?
Starting point is 01:20:39 Because it's it's almost a break from serious golf for, you know, the day because you've done all this mental prep where other guys show up late. So it's, you know, less time that they mentally focus on that course. So do you think that helps give you, you know, like a day kind of, not vacation, but just a little step off the gas or not so much? Yeah, I mean, because there's, there's so much of a difference between us prepping and then us actually playing golf. Yeah. Because like you can do all the prep work you need and then, you know, forget that you have to go play four days in a row and forget that, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:11 you're there just to play golf. You only got 18 holes. Each shot matters. And sometimes when you go out there and practice so much or, you know, you're chipping around a certain hole, you get so into just trying to figure out what the shot will be like, what you're going to do. And that's why I want to use Wednesday in that pro am to figure out. okay, this is how I'm just going to go play. Like, I'm just going to go play golf. And yeah, you know,
Starting point is 01:21:34 you're still trying new shots. You're still practicing certain things on that Wednesday. But at the end of the day, you're just really ready to go play on Thursday. And I think that's helped me a lot. I'm sure it's going to be tweaked here and there. This time goes on as I've played more courses, but it's worked so far. Yeah, because on some level, you've got to think like actually, like, to some degree, it's like the golf course doesn't really matter. Like if I hit fairways and then, you know, hit it 15 feet left of a right pin or 15 feet right of a left pin like then that's i got to hit the shots if i hit the shots the course on the hole doesn't really matter i'm just like you got to play and hit the golf shots yeah it's all about at the end of the way you're playing golf you know how are
Starting point is 01:22:13 you going to put the ball in the hole um the shortest amount of shots and you know i think just so many people get worked up on what they're working on what you know what part of their game they need to you know tweak here and there for preweek or before the tournament and And it is very important because every single week changes, but by the time comes Thursday, you want to just play golf. How are you going to play golf for four days in a row? How far is your stock seven iron go? 180. Well, yeah, I mean, if we're talking about like sea level, because I grew up in L.A.,
Starting point is 01:22:46 I grew up in playing in college and SF, like 180, 182. But then, you know, those hot days and John Deere, it's going 195. Yeah, how much, like, do you know before you arrive at a tournament, how much the elevation or the expected, like, humidity level is going to change and do those calculations, or is it more of a field thing? A little bit. I mean, I bought a track man last fall, so it's been really helpful. You know, I'll spend either Monday or Tuesday looking at numbers and adjusting for temperature,
Starting point is 01:23:21 like Mexico this year, the elevation was really high. Like, it was more than I've ever played in. So you had to adjust for that. So yeah, you know, I checked that in advance, but obviously weather can change. That is one thing I do remember about John Deere, final round. I was already sweating through my gray pants. And I had been on, I think it was, it was either Saturday or Sunday's round. This is probably one of the most memorable things all summer.
Starting point is 01:23:47 I was on my phone on the Adidas app waiting for Yeezys to drop my entire warm-up session. My caddy had no clue what I was doing. but I had my phone with me and I had it wherever I was, whether it was on the putting greener range, and I just had it sitting there hoping I would get a pair of easies. Did you get them? No, I didn't get them. I didn't get them. And I made my girlfriend walk the entire round having the website open to see if I was going
Starting point is 01:24:15 to get them and, you know, didn't. Those summers in the Midwest, they're no joke. It's hot in the summer months. The guy cared so little about the John Deere trend that he's just on his, on. his website trying to buy shoes the whole time. Your tournament actually stopped him from getting the shoes that he wanted. Yeah, we could say that. I have no comment on that.
Starting point is 01:24:38 But yeah, no, prep for figuring out weather and all that stuff, it's huge. And sometimes you get lucky. Like, we were looking at this year, I was never, I wasn't going to play the Honda Classic, but like we were looking at weather. I think it was the week, I don't know what week it was, but it was right before after Bay Hill or right before Bay Hill and it was like windy. It was almost going to rain. Like it was just you kind of,
Starting point is 01:25:03 you kind of smile at those weeks you skipped and the weather's awful because, you know, you kind of get a little lucky on that end. I'm curious just kind of, I don't know how to really explain it, but like your approach to par fives and like going for it versus laying up. Like if you're, if you're like what is your yarded? that you're like, okay, I cannot get this ball to the green. Like if you're 290 out and it's like sea level and all the or two, like what is that number or how do you kind of factor in?
Starting point is 01:25:36 Are you more of a, you know what, even if I just rip it up there in a bunker in the rough 20 yards short, I don't care. I'm more likely to get up and down than I am from 80 yards or like how do you approach par fives? It's all situational and you know, you hate to hear that answer. But I think for me, if I have to carry what, water. If I have to carry water that's over 260, 265, then I'm not going to do it. Um, and that's, yeah, you guys, same. Same. Okay. I'm glad you guys don't understand a lot of nodding. Just a lot of
Starting point is 01:26:09 nodding. Even if I can tee that up from the fairway. I'm still choosing no chance. But, you know, I think if I'm in the fairway, just say we hit a good tee shot. I'm on, I'm in the fairway. You know, I'm 290 away. I'm still going to try and rip three wood, um, unless it's a tough pin location. You've got to look at where the pin is and where you might be. I'm not going to reach the hole from 290 away unless you got a lot of roll, but I'd rather be closer to the hole. And if, you know, rough is okay or if a bunker's okay and, you know, the green I've got a lot of green to work with, you know, I'm all for going and hitting your longest club and getting it up there because that's just, you know, how I've been playing part fives. But you've got to think smart about
Starting point is 01:26:51 it. You've got to know where your miss might be. You've got to know where the pins are going to to be and that's when you know sometimes you might put yourself in trouble if you get a little too greedy you know you're not going to reach it when you could just hit five iron hit wedge and you're fine if there's one shot from your entire career of golf where you could go back in time be standing over it and you're you're you're just arriving at your golf ball and you get to do the whole thing over again what shot would it be i've been asked that question i have i have no clue um but i'll just throw i mean i'll put the put the put at 3M. I mean, that's the only shot I'd probably ask for back. Because, you know, I mean, I hit a good putt. It's not like I didn't hit a good putt
Starting point is 01:27:32 and hit a putt that I wanted. I would just read it a little differently. Now I know what that put's going to do. Yeah. Yeah. Have you, have you, and I missed the first three or four minutes. I don't know what questions these guys asked you. I actually saw a note that Brandon said you guys said you're a foodie from Vegas. Good pie in Vegas, really good pizza place that we went to. I don't know if you ever had that one. One of my favorite. favorite actually in like the country what's it called good pie it's called good pie oh it's called good pie I thought you were saying there's a good pie no no no it's called good pie no I'm gonna I'm gonna go order that in the next week or so really good pizza um like guys like a crazy pizza fanatic and he was in
Starting point is 01:28:13 Brooklyn and then he went out to Vegas awesome place in there too anyway that's beside the point um I love to know like if you like have you ever played like a like a municipal golf course since you've been at this level like with buddies or like played a course that's not up to pGA tour level and like just absolutely tore it apart and if you haven't like what would you what would you think that you would shoot on like my local 6200 yard no water straight ahead golf course that like you know my grandpa can play with his eyes close so i haven't played a full like 18 holes on immunity um but i grew up like where where my coach works is pretty much immunity i mean this course is like par i think it's a par 59-ish something around there.
Starting point is 01:28:58 Trent's glowing. Yeah, first hole is like a 200-yard par four. So, you know, like I'll still go there and take lessons from him and I'll hit off mats and we'll go out on the course and, you know, just have fun, hit some live shots. What I would shoot at your course, I really don't know. I mean, I mean. Well, Larch, what's the number that we said like,
Starting point is 01:29:21 Like if we had Tiger Woods to come to Eisenhower blue, like, what would be a really, like, was it like a 53? Like, would that be attainable? I forget, we did it by the math. And I forget what, like, the number was we reached. But it was something around there. But, like, if you change it to a par 59 and it's a part 59, the first hold of 200-yard part-four. I mean, you know, it's 40 in play. Like, I don't know what's fine.
Starting point is 01:29:45 He's playing Tiger Woods video game out there. Exactly. You might shoot a 48. Like, if he doesn't spin his approach. shot into the hole he goes back to the first tea and starts over again we talked about this last week on our show and like how um we've been playing all these really nice golf courses recently like he was saying like cabot cliffs and lynx and we played pebble beach all the stuff and i feel like i've missed growing up i've missed like the the aspect of walking up to a tea and being paired with three random guys
Starting point is 01:30:11 you know i did that when i was younger walking up to like a muni course and just like you know the plumber from town the baker from town and me like a 12 year old kid like all playing golf together I would love to see what the reactions of normal people, like, at their local muni, and then you go up there, like, undercover, and you just absolutely tear this place apart. Like, that is something like we should do on day is, like, have a guy, like, Colin, just show up and, like, secret cameras and stuff and have him shoot a 58 and look at, like, watch these reactions of guys being like, what the fuck is happening to us right now? Are we being punked?
Starting point is 01:30:44 Like, what is happening? The fact that this guy has hit every green in regulation, and he's drilling greens from the T-boxes. I think they'd pick up on it. They'd pick up on my... This guy must be some type of pro or something. Yeah, yeah. We'd have to dress you up so you looked 110. You'd have to look like that.
Starting point is 01:31:02 Uncle Drew basketball. Uncle Drew, yeah. You'd have to look like that. That'd be a hell of a series. It'd be so good, dude. So what's your quarantine? You got any, like, new hobbies? You'd be like a big binge watcher.
Starting point is 01:31:15 What do you've been, what do you've been killing time? So we started off binge watching a lot. We watched... Dexter, Ozark, Money Heist, Outer Banks. Yeah. I'm tired of it. What do you think of Ozark? I thought it started off really, really slow.
Starting point is 01:31:39 And it got weirder as like you figured out what type of characters. Like Jason Bevan's son, I forget his name. But the son in the show, like just turned out to be like some like, inside killer that just wanted to kill things, like kind of creepy. Jonah, Jonah, that's a thing. Yeah, Jonah, there you go. Yep. But I thought I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Like, I enjoy, I enjoy watching this. You know, this is what we do, and that's what a lot of players do, I think, even on regular week. So it's not that unusual for us to binge watch a lot of shows. We just have a lot more time now. But I've also been, I bought myself on PS4. I've been playing a lot of call duty. And then we have been fostering dogs.
Starting point is 01:32:22 So the past three weeks, we're on our third dog now. So we gave up, our first two dogs got adopted. And now they were really small dogs. And now we have this like 60 pound boxer pit bull terrier mix who is the most loving dog. She's just massive. Now is that hard to like foster them in and they like learn to love them and you see them around? And then they just get taken away and adopted. A little bit.
Starting point is 01:32:50 I mean, I know, like, and I love dogs, but, you know, for me, it's not as hard because I know, like, it's just, it's something I can't do right now with, you know, how much travel we do. My girlfriend, on the other hand, like, is bawling. She's, she misses them. She's very attached to the dogs, which is, you know, really sweet, but it is tough. I think this one, her name's Minky, we'll have her for a little longer, which is nice. So up until all this stuff is over. I love that. That is awesome.
Starting point is 01:33:20 So how's the whole process work? Like where do you foster them from? She found this like, they're called Animal Network Group or something. And she was just looking online. I mean, she's been doing this forever now because she just pastures me on getting a dog. And yeah, we can travel with a dog. We can do all this. We see people travel with a dog.
Starting point is 01:33:41 I know Cameron Smith travels with a dog sometimes. Even Max Homan travels with his dog once in a while. But yeah, she was looking all around. We sent a bunch emails out. They were all like, no, they're adopted, whatever. We were just looking to foster during this time. And we got so lucky with this group, this person, she's been awesome. Because once we've literally, once we've given up our one foster dog to adopt to a family,
Starting point is 01:34:08 we have gotten another dog to foster that same day. And I think we've just been like on it to try and get another dog because now we're just so used to it. Like it's so much fun. That is awesome. Good for you guys. That's great. It's got to be tough on the heart a little bit, but I mean, that's awesome. When's the last time you hit like a golf ball? Two weeks. That's crazy. I don't have a fancy setup in my house. I've got nothing. I don't even have one of those putting mats. I'll just go out in backyard, grip my club, and swing air swings. That's all. That's all been maybe twice in the past.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Probably the longest you've gone without hitting a golf ball since you were like a top. modeler, no? Yeah. I mean, I've been really good about taking like one full week off, whether it's on vacation, whatever it is, but I've never gone more than like a week, week and a half. So that's what I said. Like I'm, I'm itching to get back out there. Like, I want to get back out there for sure. How's the air swing looking? It's looking great. I might be pretty good at either topping or thinning shots by the time we get back. Yeah. Swing feels good. I mean, I'm telling you, I mean, I'm hitting really good little butter cuts like I have been shooting 18 under par in my backyard. So I don't know about you guys.
Starting point is 01:35:24 I'd watch out. I was just saying that's me too. In my air swings, same thing. Yeah, it's nice. If you put, if every green has those checkered lines and a little hole and it's a five foot putting mat in my room, I'm going to win the masters. I'm, I nail a thousand puts a night now. So I mean, I'm ready to rock. I'm ready to go. Thankfully golf is exactly the same. Exactly. flat putts up a hill. Yeah, a little hill at the end, just to slow it down. It's nice. All right, Colin.
Starting point is 01:35:54 Well, look, man, we really appreciate the time and keep up the great work. Obviously, fostering dogs is incredible. Hopefully you guys are back out there soon. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me. A lot of fun. See you, Colin. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:36:06 We'll catch up soon. Thank you. Stay safe. You too. You too.

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