Fore Play - Collin Morikawa Gloriously Returns

Episode Date: September 10, 2020

The PGA champ (6:03) rejoins the show after first coming on April 27th. This is a really, really good one. We discuss Tiger telling Collin “welcome to the major club,” the back nine at the PGA, the decision to hit driver on 16, beating JT in a playoff at the Workday, the upcoming U.S. Open and MUCH more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Colin Moore, Kaua, I'm sure you saw us tweeting about it. We had them on. I think it was late April. I believe it was April 27th. I had that written down, but I don't have my notes in front of me because of a giant snowstorm where I am here in Colorado has completely eliminated all the power. So I drove to a parking lot and I'm tethering and was tethering my computer from my phone via

LTE. But anyways, that's not really that important. What is important is, dude, the most recent major champ joins the show, talks all about winning, the shots that he hit, talking to Tiger Woods. What an interview this was. He's, I mean, I've talked at length on this show about how I wish I was Colin Moracawa, and this interview just drives that home even more. He's just so mature. He's got the right mentality. I mean, there's, in no world and no universe, does this guy not go on become a multi, you know, major winner, have a ton of wins on the PJ tour. Like the sky is the limit for this guy,

and he knows it, but he knows how to handle it. And it's a very interesting interview. Like you said, he goes through the tournaments he's won since we last talked to him. It's just a fascinating interview. It is. It's really good insight from the fifth-ranked player in the world. He finished sixth at East Lake.

He had a phenomenal season, added two wins since last time we had him on the show, including the PGA Championship. He lost to Daniel Berger in the playoff at Charles Schwatt, which was the first tournament back from the restart. We talk about that. We talk about winning the Workday against Justin Thomas and those huge putts. We talk about the PGA Championship coming down the stretch,

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No, it's Dwight Shrewd when he's at, what, like, casino night and he's trying to barter up or whatever. It's just like you got to be good and talented at bartering. When was cashmen's it? When was, like, coins? I mean, coins were using, like, Aztec days, no? Like, I mean, there's little coins and stuff, like Egyptian days. Like, like, way BC, they were using coins and stuff for trades, no? Yeah, I mean, like, the monetary system, like, I think that that's just existed.

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Enjoy Kaala. All right, folks, we're joined for the second time. And I think about four months, maybe three and a half months, things have changed a lot since the last time he was on the show. Cawin Moracalla, the PGA champion. He's won two times on Toursons. One, of course, is a major. So we are going to take a lot of credit for that.

And we talked a little bit pre-show. But, you know, did we kind of catapult Kalamorakawa up to the next stratosphere of golf startup? Thanks, guys. Um, you never know. I mean, you know, who knows what you guys led me to and what you guys made me think and just feel about myself of a, you know, a professional golfer. But obviously the past few months, you know, we've been really grateful to come back and play. I mean, how exciting is that, especially you look at some of these finishes, what some guys are doing. Um, but yeah, to win twice over the past few months, um, especially winning the PGA has been so exciting. The world has been very different. But I'm trying to, you know, you know, stay on the same path and just be me, you know, have fun with this and really enjoy it. Yeah, I mean, last time we spoke, I think it was April 27th right around there, and it was sort of mid-COVID, mid-quarantine. We were just talking about how cool it would be to even be able to play professional golf.

And now, of course, like I said, here you are. You're finished, I think, sixth in the FedEx Cup at Eastlake. You're the fifth-ranked player in the world. You've got a couple more wins under your belt, including a major. how crazy has the last three months felt to you? Yeah, I mean, it's been just a crazy ride, you know, especially after the PGA, literally those next two weeks, even leading into Boston was just media after media after media.

But I had a lot of fun with it because, you know, it wasn't necessarily just golf media, you know, it brought my name out like to a worldwide to, you know, the entire country. And that's what was kind of cool to, like, meet other people that, you know, might not know so much about golf. for some people that love golf but, you know, aren't in the golf business. And it was fun to do interviews because they would just ask some great questions. But yeah, no, it's been so busy.

But I love it. You know, this is like this is the position you want to be in. It's a good, you know, problem to have. It's not really a problem. But, you know, you want to be in these positions. So, you know, I'm so thankful to have won that week. Obviously, it's some good shots coming down to stretch with, you know, what you want to call it, a party at 10 under, you know, through 9 old.

Yeah, it was, there's a ton that I want to get to. There's the playoff at the workday and the putts. There's the playoff even at Charles Schwab that didn't go your way. There's the back nine of the PGA. Let's start with a report that you kind of mentioned TBC Boston earlier. Obviously, when the PGA, there was a report that during the practice rounds at the PGA, Tiger Woods came up to you and said something along the lines of welcome to the club. What kind of conversation was that with Tiger?

Yeah. It was, I was doing some media. He just finished, I think, just playing maybe like nine holes or something. And he came up to me and he's like, he looked me straight in the eyes. Like, welcome to the major club. And like, I don't know if I should be telling anyone that. Like, who knows if Tiger's mad at me for that? But to hear that from him, right?

So I heard it from Rory in the morning. You know, he was getting out of his car. I was getting out of my car at the same time. He's like, what's up major chance? and to hear that from him and Tiger meant everything. And, you know, to be honest, like, it still hasn't sunk in, and I don't think I realize what I've done, because I'm just looking forward to what's next.

You know, we just finished our season, and I get five days off, and then I'm off to New York for the U.S. Open, you know, like, this isn't an off season. I wish, you know, we had a little more time, but that's just the way things played out. So to have them say that to me meant a lot, and that just makes me want it even more. So now that I had a taste of it, you know,

I could see why certain guys really have the majors start in their calendars because it really means so much and it changes a lot of guys as careers. I love that you say Tiger Woods, I don't know if he's mad at me or not. I don't. Do you mean that Tiger, like, since you won the PGA or that that quote got out? No, just the quote because like it was just me and him and someone in the media tent like it was, you know, 20 yards away saw us talking and then they asked me. Like, you know, I played with him at Chicago, and it seemed like he was fine. There was no cold shoulder. And I mean, I love playing with him.

He is awesome. I mean, you can talk to him about anything. And that's what makes him great. Not just an amazing golfer, but just a great person. So, but yeah, to have him say that to me, you know, that's any little kid's dream, obviously, right? Man, that is the dream. We did the, it is literally the dream.

We actually, we were talking about the major club and we did the numbers. I think Frankie ran the numbers. And in the 170 year history that there's been major championships or whatever there is, there's only a couple hundred major winners ever. So we were, because we were like, man, that club, how exclusive is that club? And I think Frankie, who's horrific with just general kind of guessing on numbers and heights and those kinds of things, thought maybe there was like 10,000 or something. I don't think I said 10,000.

I just said there's got to be a shit ton. And I was like, when we were talking about exclusivity, and I was like, all right, like the master's champions dinner, that's like you're sitting around a table and you're looking at the faces of the guys that have won the masters. I said how much like majors have to be bigger. And then all of a sudden we went through the numbers and it's nothing. It's like 120 people. Exactly. It's such a, it's a small club. And then like when you separate it by major, you know, a PJ champion, US Open Masters.

They're their own clubs. And like one of the first things, one of the people. of America people that, you know, helps run and get us all running and make sure everything's all good after I finish was you're going to have to figure out what you want for dinner, for the Champions dinner next, what is it, May? And I'm like, okay, I've got like six months. Justin Thomas has like asked me three times when I'm going to put on the menu, and I have no clue.

I mean, I love food, but like, what if one guy doesn't like something and what if this guy loves it? I'm like, oh, boy. We're trying to please all crowds here. No, it's your dinner. Pick whatever you want. If you want to break a little news here and give us some insight on what your dinner's going to be, we'll take that as well. I have no clue.

I've thought about it and I have zero clue right now. Or be a gamer and do something that like sits well in your stomach, but you know doesn't sit on all the people's stuff. You go about it that way. True competitor at there. Wow. Exactly. Be a tiger. That's actually a really good call.

That's in like Breaking Bad, but he's the only one. that's not going to die from the poison so everybody drinks the poison and then he just survives i think that might be your move um so yeah so our advice is poison your other confessions what we're saying uh one thing one thing that stuck out to me a little bit i was out there and obviously it was weird that there was nobody there but i noticed during the practice on i think it was Wednesday or so that you were teeing off and there was a little bit of a backup up on the 10th tee. And you guys were starting. And the group behind you was Tiger. And I think it was Freddie couples and someone else. And you were teeing off as those guys were waiting. And you

teed off right in front of Tiger's face. And I was wondering, and you striped one right down the middle. And a couple other guys of your group, I could tell, kind of like flared him. And I was like, I know, shit, they flared him. My tiger's standing right behind him. Do you, do you remember or notice that at all? You're putting way too much. on a practice round in front of Tiger Woods. Okay. And granted, I bet you anyone else, if you saw Tiger and you were like, Tiger's definitely watching me, like, let's make sure we hit this good.

Of course you want to hit a good shot. So, I mean, it was Stricker, Davis Love the 3rd, and Tiger. And I had played a Stricker and Davis loved the previous day in a practice round. But for me, like, since I've gotten to know Tiger, and it's not like I hang out with him all the time, but I've gotten to play with him, you know, three times now in a tournament. I hung out with him for a day during a tailor-made photo shoot. I've talked to him here and there, like, in the locker rooms.

Like, for me, it's just, okay, you know, he is just trying to beat us. You know, that's all he wants to do in the week. You know, if I'm thinking about, oh, man, I want to stripe a drive to impress Tiger, like my mind is not in the right spot to go win a tournament. Like, it is as far away as it could be. And, you know, maybe as a junior, maybe that's the mindset I had, if I had a start, you know, and you'd go play in a PJ tour tournament. And, you know, really franny amateur that was listening, like, if you go have a start like that and then you want to

go impress someone, you know, there's nothing to impress because all we care about is beating the next person and beating whoever's above us, right? And we just want to play our best golf. So, you know, I've played with the longest sitters. Like, I've played a handful of rounds now with Cameron Champ and I've played with him for my entire life pretty much. And that's impressive. Like, but he doesn't care if you can hit a ball straight. You know, we're all just trying to beat each other. And, but, you know, it's obviously fun playing the tiger because, you know, like you go back to when I played with him in Chicago at the BMW,

for some reason he just gets me in a rhythm of, okay, like, we got to hit good shots. We're playing good golf, you know. It just has that little extra emphasis of, you know, what he's done. And that kind of leads into your golf sometimes. That's that attitude, man. He's got the championship mentality, man. Colin's got this mentality and we talk about it on the podcast all the time and like even when you won the PGA, I was like, this guy doesn't even fucking celebrate. Like he's just like there to just win. Like you look like you're built differently. And like you're able to muck it up here on the podcast and talk about how fun it is. But it looks like, and you can tell me if I'm wrong. But it looks like you're just like doing what you're expecting right now. Like you expected to come here and like perform. And like now you have eyes and goals on like the biggest and best things you could possibly do. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to. call you out like I hate the word expectations like whenever media comes up to me and they're like

oh what do you expect or like you know people are expecting this like it's just everything that you guys put on me and so like I've always denied what our expectations were because you look at last summer with me wolf victor even justin saw like there were expectations for us to do something but there's expectations that media puts on every single like graduating class or whatever you know young pro is going to be out there hoping that you know they just hit this new level of golf. But for me, like you said, like it's just goals. Like I'm just setting new goals. I've never set limits on like what is achievable and what isn't. I just see the top and I'm like, all right, let's go for it. There's so many steps to get there. And that's obviously, you know,

a lot of hard work, a lot of practice, dedication, whatever it is, all that stuff put together. But, you know, for me, it's like, okay, we got this. What's next? Like for me, what is next? And that's why that like satisfaction of, okay, you know, we want a major, I just want more. And I think that's just, you know, that's just who I am. So that is the attitude that everybody talks about. We went through it last time you're on the show about the difference in terms of maturity level between yourself and some other folks that are your age, that are in your class that are coming up. And I think that it's very much been proven in how you have started your career, how you came back through the restart. I want to go back through some of the events in the restart right out of the game.

You know, you're right there to win the first tournament back. Doesn't end up going your way. It's a short put. A lot of people would let that hurt them or derail them, maybe hurt their confidence, whatever. Looking back on that, how did that affect you going forward and propel you towards the rest of the summer? Yeah, I mean, that taught me a lot, you know, like when you miss a three, whatever, was three and a half footer to at least go into the next hole for a playoff and have a chance to win like you know that's devastating and i didn't feel good the rest of the day um but it's like how do

you learn from there and that you look at my t-shot that playoff hole pretty much shanked it right in the trees then i chipped out then i hit a great chip shot and from there it's like the mindset was okay the hole's already over and like i had already gone through the hard parts and this putt was in the hole when it really wasn't and you know you say it anyone like Like it's never over until the putt is actually in the hole, right? Until that last shot is hit. And I just got ahead of myself so much. So like I learned from that.

I even looked at the footage. And if you look at my putter on that putt, like my toe of my putter is pretty up. Like the toes above the ground. And for me, like I just don't like that. I like it when it's really flat. And I mean, everyone's different. But that made me flatten my putter a degree and a half. literally the day like two days before work day and like it just felt so much more comfortable

and you know there's just little lessons here and there but that was the biggest lesson was never get ahead of yourself you know like it's never over till it's over and every shot counts you know you can hit a 300-year-drive but it counts the same as a two-foot put so you know you never know where it's going to cost you and it was just you know it was a huge learning lesson but And thankfully, I got out on it on the right side. So then, you know, next, you end up going out, like you talk about the work day. We've talked about the work day. In an absolute battle with Justin Thomas down the stretch, you hit the shot, I think it's the 14th.

That's the drivable par four with water all over the place. Everyone makes the parallel between that T shot and the shot that you hit on 16 at the PGA championship. but in that moment and coming down the stretch, you know, how confident did you have to be to pull driver there and hit that t-shot? Like, is that your favorite shot to hit? Because clearly we've seen you do it multiple times under the greatest pressure. Yeah, whoever's designing courses need to build like 300-yard driving will park horse for me, just where it's too short for the guys that hit it long, but like just perfect for me to like land it short and roll it up. Yeah, I mean, you know, I was at a position.

I think I was one back at the time. And Victor had just hit driver in front of me and actually put it in the water. But, you know, I'd hit driver other days. I was like, if we put in the left bunker, we can easily get up and down. And I was like, you know, let's just step up and hit a good drive. You know, it's in my control. If I hit a bad driver in the water or whatever, but like let's see the shot and hit it. So it's not like I was forcing anything at that point.

we go on to both make birdie and then the next hole I'm down with three and I've got three down with three to go and normally like you know sometimes when you're three down with three to go you just kind of feel like you're out of it and you have no chance but I just had this weird feeling that I was never out of the tournament and you know yes I needed JT to drop a couple shots or at least a shot and I need to make a birdie here and there but I just never felt out of it and that was like a feeling that you know sometimes you wish you had another event. but, you know, that day I was just feeling it. And obviously it came down to, you know, a grueling three-hole playoff,

where we had a little excitement on that, on that playoff hole, the first playoff hole, really. Yeah, that first playoff, I mean, when JT makes a 55-foot or whatever exactly it was, and then I think you had a 20-25-footer coming down the hill, how do you compose yourself? How do you react to that? What's going through your head? Everybody always says, expect your opponent to make it. But were you really, like, expecting him to make a 60-4?

I wasn't, like, expecting him to make. I wasn't expecting him to miss. It was just, like, I was so focused on my putt. And then when he was putting, obviously, I'm watching. And he hit it, it was about halfway. And I was like, this looks pretty good. And, you know, is this the right? You know, when you're watching someone else play, you're like, is this the right speed?

Like, is this too hard, too soft? And about 10 feet out, I was like, this is dead center. This is in the hole. Obviously, you could hear a couple of cheers. There's a bunch of guys watching on the putting green, but having no fans. This is where fans versus, like, no fans helped me in a sense because having no fans, like, I was able to directly go to my putt

and, like, talk to my caddy, talk to JJ, and be like, okay, we got to make this. This is where we're going to hit it. Like, you know, that stuff. And if I had fans, I probably would have been waiting there two minutes waiting for everyone to calm down. I still would have heard people chirping, and people, you know, scream and celebrating.

So, you know, in a sense, I think it helped me. And it was like, you know, we make a remiss. You know, I don't want to go 0 and 2 in playoffs. And if I did, I'd learn again. And I'd lose to a great shot other than me giving it away somewhat in a sense. But I didn't want to lose. And like, I knew JT had a punt about half that distance of regulation. I knew it kind of dripped off to the right.

And my caddy was like, okay, like he trusted me on that. And I had them read that first half. And from my perspective, okay, on the putt, I thought it was left center. When I went to go rewatch it, that thing barely snuck in left edge. But, you know, whatever, it went in the hole and then things went okay from there. I was wondered about that because I remember JT had the putt to win. It was like a par puttut, I think, and it was to win. Yeah, he had a great chip shot.

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you know ever without fans and during this whole pandemic did that change the vibe going into it at all or how because me being there i was trying to convey to these guys that like no it feels on site like a major championship this feels different. Did you guys sense that as well? Absolutely. And it's weird not having fans. I mean, this is, this is what my second major. My first one is that, you know, the U.S. Open last year at Pebble. And it's not like I had a bunch of people following me, but, you know, there was a lot of people there just on the ground. But when you step on site and you see how guys are prepping and how guys are preparing

through their practice rounds, you could tell there's an extra sense of focus. You know, guys aren't just chatting up having a good time. Like they're here to do business and here to win the tournament. So yeah, there's a definitely a little different feeling. But I think what the best guys do and the guys that have won many majors and the guys that always contend is they know how to like bring it to that level but not overdo it and not overdo it in a sense where like they show up and they're a whole new golfer and they don't know, you know, they're changing everything up. They might do a little extra here and there, but they're just as focused realizing, okay, this is another golf tournament. I think that's what's helped me in these big events is that I've seen all these

guys play. I've played with all these guys before. You know, it's just, okay, it's another tournament just with a little more weight to it, you know? So, again, that's just that attitude. The guys got the right attitude. That's why he wins. The back nine kind of on Sunday, a million names in the mix, big names, guys that have won majors before, guys that are trying to win their first majors, touted young guns, guys that hit the ball a mile, you're right in there. How much, you know, just in terms of scoreboard watching and understanding where you're at in the leaderboard, were you able to do much of that? Did you care about doing much of that?

Or were you just like, no, I'm going to focus on my game and we'll see at the end? No, I was definitely looking. And that's just, like, that's who I am. Like, I want to know where I'm at. I mean, you go look at any other sport, like, guys playing basketball in the NBA right now, They're not going to go shoot some threes and be like, oh, man, shoot. I didn't realize we were 15 up or I didn't realize, you know, we were five down. Like, oh, man, what am I doing?

So for me, you know, golf is very different. But like, my perspective is it's good to know where you're at. If you're, if that's able to not change how you play, then that's the best position you could be in because, you know, it's good to know where you're at. If I'm coming down the last and I know I need to birdie, it's nice if I need to know that I need a birdie, not, oh, man, you know, we're, you know, we're, you know, par could be okay, you know, whatever it is. So I was definitely looking.

I made huge par saves on one and six. And I don't think many people saw six, but similar to one, it was 25, 30 feet for par. And those were huge because these are the first few holes where guys are making birdies. If I make bogey on one, I'm already one, two back.

I'm losing a couple shots. But by 12, I think this is at the time where Wolf had just made birdie on 18. I think I saw his name finish at 10 under. So I saw seven guys. 10 under and I knew all right 10 under's not going to do it obviously someone's bound to make a birdie here or there and I just needed an opportunity to hit some good shots I was grinding for pars on like four foot par pots on 11 12 and 13 and I was like please something go my way I hit my 14th

t shot and I hit it a little far right and my caddy immediately started walking back to go to the bathroom and I saw it bounce out of the rough which I had not seen the entire week back in the farewell, I was like, this is the break I need. And then I go hit the worst iron shot possible. Short ride of the green. I'm like, well, that's not the break we needed. But, you know, you go to certain chip shots and I don't know if you guys have this feeling, but like, but you're about to say the answer is no. It's literally teed up on the grass. Okay. It's a little uphill and you're like, we have a really good shot to make this. And that's one of those ship shots that I had.

I'm sure you guys have that feeling at some point. All right? Big time. Go on. Go with me. And, you know, I just told my catty, right? This is going in. And, you know, that kind of jump started what was the time in the next few holes.

You say shit like that. It's crazy to me. And obviously, you guys do this, like, in all aspects of the game. And I even want to bring this back to that put where you're saying, like, you know the read, you know the line. How often is it for you guys that you hit the putts, perfectly like where you want them. It's just like a misread here and there, right? Like it blows my mind that you can say, all right, this is going to die in left edge. And every time you're expecting it to die in left edge if the green does what it needs to do. So how often is it like

you misread it or you miss hit it? I think there's a mix of both. I mean, it's day to day. I was talking my caddy about this because my caddy won two, you know, division two individual titles at Chico State. And he was a very good player in his own. But like when he he started cadding and now he's been out of it for a while, you know, there's that instinct of a professional golfer or professional athletes have, right? So like sometimes when I hit these putts, I just know like they're going to go in the hole. And it's not all the time. And this is what blows my mind when Kevin Knaw walks in putts. I don't know how he does it. I can't physically do that. I've tried and they always miss. So like you will not see me. You will not see

you take one half step forward unless it is guaranteed in the hole. I've got tracks left and right edge of the hole that are bringing the ball in. I'm waiting so hard for him to miss one of those so that, because that clip will be great. I'll be honest. I'll be honest. There might have been one on hole 11 of the BMW championship, just saying, I'm not going to throw them out because I don't think there's any video. I don't think you're ever going to find it. I'll be tweeting about that before this interview's over.

Yeah, he must hide it all. He told me, so we played a charity match and, you know, you talk about how well the PGA has done. They've done an amazing job, the PGA tour, everyone that's helped us. But you talk about, so I played the charity match, right, on Wednesday, and I asked him, have you ever missed one trying to walk in? And he said, I've only missed one in my entire life.

And I was like, come on. Like, there's no way you've only missed one time where you've tried to walk it in. I mean, we've all done it. We all miss. It always misses. We always. Exactly. I walked one into beat Kevin Kisner in a four-man scrabble match, so it's not.

No big deal. He did walk in. We didn't have to talk. I wasn't beat out. That was crazy. I wasn't going to bring it up. What were you putting first, second, third? Were you last in that weather?

I was four. I was forced. So I literally got to see that. Well, I mean, you had the pressure. You have the pressure. You got to make it. I mean, you got to see JT's put, right? I mean, we all get to, we all get the read.

Okay. So now we come to the 16th hole at the, at Harding Park. There's, again, a ton of parallels that are being made to the T-shot that you hit at workday. Do you draw on that? What's kind of the setup on the T-shot? Was there any consideration of hitting any different club? Was it just give me driver? Talk us through sort of the thought process on that T-shot.

Yeah. I wasn't necessarily thinking about 14-0 workday, but I knew, like, it was very similar. At the beginning of the week, Colton Nose was interviewing a couple of guys, and Phil had just joined us for literally 16, 17, and 18 to play those three holes. And I told Colton Nost, I'm never going to take driver. So I lied directly to his face, and he called me out for it. But I seriously, I never thought the T's were going to be that far up. I never thought the pin was going to be accessible. So I just had, you know, my envision of, okay, if I can't get to the middle of the green, you know, what's the point if it's going to be cold,

and blowing into our face. But that's what you got to adjust. I did it on Friday. I hit driver. So I step on the tea. I know Paul Casey just made birdie, so we're tied. JJ's getting the numbers,

my caddies. So I look at him. I'm like, what do you think? And then sometimes he offers, you know, what he thinks, but he looked at me.

He's like, what do you think? And he wanted to be, wanting me to be comfortable with whatever I was going to do. He told me after the fact that he was always on driver, but even if I said iron,

he wasn't going to talk me out of it, you know? because at that point in a major championship coming down, you need to hit the most comfortable shots that you're ready for. Not let's try something new for the heck of it. So I was like, this is a perfect driver. Like I don't have to do anything special. It was cold off our left.

The wind was coming off our left into us. And I hit it. He stepped into the tee, which he never does. And all we were praying for both of us. And you can hear it is one straight bounce. Like that's all we needed because it was heading straight at the pin. It took that bounce. I heard a couple claps.

I knew it was on the green. I had no clue how close it was. There was kind of a tree kind of blocking us as we walked off. And at that point, I knew, all right, this is where we need to do something special. And when I finally saw it after Cam, Cameron Champ teed off, I was like, this looks pretty close. And when we stepped up, I knew this is a putt that could change, you know, this entire tournament. Two shots with two to go is a lot more, you know, a lot more comforting. It's not comforting in a major.

your championship, but it's a lot nicer to have than one shot with 2DO. And obviously, you know, I hit some pretty good shots even on 17 and 18 to kind of make par. Yeah, that putt, how, you know, how much pressure is it to make sure you then convert the putt? Because I'm thinking about like Herb Brooks' 1980 Miracle on Ice Team when they beat Russia, and everybody thinks that's when they win the gold medal. But he said famously, you lose this game, they played like Finland or somebody in the championship. And he said he loses game, you'll take it to your fucking grace of like, no, you just

accomplish the thing that everyone's going to talk about. How much pressure is there then to bury the put? Yeah, I was so focused in on that putt because, like, the drive would still be talked about. But like, it wouldn't have that much emphasis because if the putt didn't go in, it's like, oh, he hit this great drive and he two putted for Bertie from seven feet. You know, they're like, great drive. You know, we could have hit iron wedge and made Bertie. But that's what separated me from the field.

You know, that's what gave me that extra little edge coming down 17, coming down 18, and that forced the other guys to really try and make birdie. Not, okay, you know, one birdie can get us into a playoff. They had to make two birdies to even get into a playoff. So the birdie put, or the eagle putt was huge. You know, those are putts you want to make that, you know, that you know, that just changes the rest of the script for the tournament.

Man, it was really cool. It was very fun to watch. It was very fun to follow. So after you finish the round and, you know, things are locked up, you know you've won. What happens? I mean, I know the cameras kind of got you in your FaceTime and you're on phone with your family. But what in your, you know, is it just immediate more media than you could imagine? Are you talking to somebody?

Are you planning? Like, what's the next two, three hours like once it's done and finished and you're the champ? Yeah. To be honest, I don't think my caddy and I even realized we had won. Like, yeah, we gave a little, you know, like chest bump, whatever, like, after we finished that last putt. But it didn't really hit us. Like, I signed my scorecard. I made sure everything was right.

And then I'm waiting there, like, 30 seconds. I'm like, is this over? Like, DJ is not catching us, right? Like, did we win this? And then we both had to, like, look for the leaderboard for a half second. We're like, yeah, we did this. Like, we just won it. We just won the BJ championship.

And how, you know, that's, like, the best feeling in the world. But, yeah, media for hours. was starving by the end of that night. It got so cold. And, you know, the San Francisco fog came in and I was just freezing my butt off. But it was so cool because, you know, a lot of volunteers were there, obviously, you know, trying to be socially distant from everyone. But to finally sit down, have dinner with my small team, my coach, my girlfriend, my catty, my agent, and a couple other people after all the media was done, I finally was able to take a deep breath and realize, all right, we did it, you know, and finally just kind of enjoy what was left

for that day because I didn't get out of there until like 10 p.m. Would you end up eating at dinner? What was the championship dinner? They ordered a bunch of food from the course. I had a steak. I had clam chowder. We ordered a bunch of appetizers. I had like two scoops of ice cream. We had some wine. There's just a lot of food that was demolished. So I want to talk about the Wanamaker and when you get the trophy and I want to say that we're, we got to be the number one outlet that defended you on what happened with the lid of the trophy because you just grab the thing and you go to hoist it and the lid pops off. I think somebody had to put that thing on tighter.

No, it's coming off no matter what if you tip it over. I wish it was taped up. Like I think they realized, and it's a good thing. I wasn't the first one to do it, thankfully. I just made a mess out of myself, and I'm glad everyone else enjoyed it other than myself during those five seconds. Did you know as that thing was falling over? Like, this is an internet virus.

I just knew when I picked it up, and I think Seth Waugh, who's the personal friend of ours, when he handed it to me after the fact, and I was kind of smiling and Jim Nance, you know, was talking. I was just like, this is going to be blown up the internet. No one cares that I want. They just care about that I drop this wonderful trophy on the ground. But, I mean, that just made, you know, that just made part of what that entire week was about just to have fun.

And, you know, I've seen the memes. I'm sure it'll never stop. People will always ask me about it. And, yeah, the lid comes off, but still comes off. Like, what do you do it? When we were at Pebble Beach, they brought over the U.S. Open trophy, and we were, like, walking, like, touching it and stuff. And then, like, that, like, that thing comes apart.

Like, you wouldn't believe. I remember, like, I, like, moved something to the point where they just took the trophy away from us. And then that was just, like, being presented for the champion later on. I'm like, no, that thing's not secure because we just messed around with it a little bit with our fingers. So it's definitely, they got to secure these trophies up a little bit better. Yeah.

No, I wouldn't mind a little tape here and there next time. Just a little bit. At the end of the day, nobody cares of what happened with that. the trophy, you won the damn thing and you won it in awesome fashion, so who cares? U.S. Open, Wingfoot, it's kind of in our backyard. We're based on in New York. Frankie's a long island guy, so not too far away. For a lot of you kind of younger guys, I mean, the last time the open was at Wingfoot was 2006,

so a lot of the younger guys haven't ever seen the golf course. What's sort of your knowledge and experience with Wingfoot? Zero, other than what you've told everyone else about, that Wingfoot is hard. You know, I talked to Rom a little bit because he went. I talked to JT a little bit. And, you know, I can only learn so much from talking to them. But, you know, from what I hear, it's going to be tough. You know, you got to play golf.

You got to play some good golf next week. And, you know, that's just what the USDA is going to do for us. They're going to set it up tough. They're going to make everything firm, fast, rough is going to be up. And to be honest, well, we saw in Olympia Fields was almost a good kind of prep for us in a sense. that, you know, sometimes PARs a very good score and, you know, there's never anything wrong with it. But, you know, I look forward to it. And, you know, in 2006, I definitely didn't watch that U.S. Open.

I know what happened. But, you know, I couldn't tell you anything from when I was nine years old watching the U.S. Open. But it's good. You know, my caddy played a U.S.M there. I think in, I think he said, 03. I think there was a U.S.am. and he's been there a few times. So it'll be fun to see. You just ruined Trent's Day saying you were nine years old in 2006. You ruined Trent's Day. No, I mean, yeah, he's so, he's 23. You're 23 years old and you're far more mature than I am

and probably everyone else in his podcast. It's really something to watch. It's crazy. We, talking about the conditions. We've been going to Wing Foot. We're doing this video. We're getting there at like 3.30 in the morning, watching the way these guys prep the golf course.

And the look on these guys' faces back there in like the maintenance yard on like what they are like able to do and like what the USGA is allowing them to do to this course is absolutely hilarious they have this like twinkle in their eye they're all laughing they're smoking cigars they're like we're letting this thing breathe right now and it's actually interesting because the differences between when the US Open usually is and now in September with New York rough and stuff like things are just a little bit thicker and it's just a it's a very different style waiting foot than I think you saw in 2006 which obviously we don't remember but like it

I think it's going to be the ultimate test, like you said, of golf. Like, you have to hit fairways, and then the greens are just laugh out loud funny. Yeah, no, I'm excited. I can't wait to see you guys play. It's such a test. I'm excited. You guys, everyone's talking it up, and I think it'll hold its own for sure. But, you know, like any other course that I haven't seen, like, I'm excited to just

finally figure out how to play it. You know, it feels like there's a lot of strategy involved next week. And when you talk to J.T. and ask him, like, a question you said you spoke to these guys about the course. Like, where does that start? Like, do you say, like, for us, we just say, like, oh, you know, how's that course? And people just say, oh, it's really hard. Like, I made four triples in a row.

Like, what is your first question? How do you even talk about a golf course? I mean, I literally just asked the same thing. I was like, how was Winkfoot last week or whatever? And then JT was sitting with us at lunch. And, you know, it's just like, you know, they talk about it. And it's not like they go into detail, like, oh, 12 holes really hard. like you better watch it out.

It's just, you know, like, okay, you know what the rough is obviously going to be up. Certain T-boxes, I guess, that they can put, make certain holes just crazy long, whether it's a part three or part five. And it was just very basic level, you know, talking about the course. But to have them say it's tough, you know, it's going to be tough. And it's going to be a good test. And to be honest, like I like playing courses like that. I wish you could set up more courses like that because, you know, it's fun for us. It's mentally draining.

And we definitely get drained a little more during those weeks where, you know, even par might win. But for me, like, when you look back at it, you learn so much more when you, especially when you play during these weeks because you're not just bombing driver hitting wedge and making 30 birdies for a week. You know, it's a little different than that. This style golf course is it something that you're not used to? I know a lot of talk with the Harding Park. You went to school 30 minutes away from it.

Everyone said that you'd played that style of golf courses. And obviously you end up winning there. Is this something that you're not familiar with yet? Have you done the East Coast swing a ton in your life and this style of with the rough and the long golf courses and the crazy undulations of the greens and stuff? You know, I've seen some undulation for the greens. I haven't played a ton in, you know, the kind of the Northeast. I've played a handful of times around them.

there, but, you know, to be honest, I really don't know what to expect. So I'm kind of walking into this blind, just kind of figure it out on Monday and go from there. Trust my caddy. And, you know, everyone can say it's tough. Everyone can say this and that. But I'm just going to go in kind of with an open mind and figure out, okay, you know, these are the tough stretches of holes. Like, these are holes that, you know, maybe we could take advantage of and kind of go from there. because if I start thinking, you know, before next week, oh, man, if I shoot even, and then what if it rains and we get soft conditions and then guys are shooting three, four, five under par for a couple days and scores start adding up.

Then, you know, you just have to adjust and that's what I'm off to do next week. The end of the day, I mean, you should the ball straight and hit at the right distance. Yeah, exactly. Fill a golf course. Those are, that's great advice. You know, you should mark that up and kind of sell it. Get the ball in the hole. Yeah, exactly.

Gita Green, it's a golf course. It's not unplayable. Like, members play the course all the time. So we say that to ourselves when we go to these like crazy hard golf courses. Like we play like Aaron Hills, Chambers Bay, the places where you guys play. And I'm like stepping up. I'm like, man, I'm going to get absolutely destroyed here. How am I going to do it?

At the end of there, we're like people play this court. Like people, human beings, play this golf course. every single day, there's a T-box and there's a hole in the ground. And we just need to get this ball there. It doesn't matter how it gets there. Somehow, some way. There's no pictures on the scorecard, just get the ball in the hole. Absolutely.

It's simple as that. And I think that's just a mindset you got to have. You know, like don't have those expectations in your head. Go out there and play some golf, right? Have some fun. Where's the trophy right now? What's the trophy doing? It's sitting, so I got the replica.

It's sitting in this, like, indestructible case that, No one can break into in my family room downstairs. Like, I've got nowhere to put it. It is too big. And my house is just not big enough. And I don't have the space to just leave it out. But, you know, who knows when it will be taken out to fill some drinks. And we have some time off.

But we just haven't had the time. I love it. Well, awesome work. Congratulations. It's been a great stretch of golf that you've played. And I think with your attitude, the way you hit the ball, nobody thinks that's going to stop. I think a lot of people are looking at you going into wing foot.

You're going to be the most recent major champ. Does that come with a little swagger when you walk on site? No, I'm going out there. Like I'm still that 23-year-old kid, just focused on what I want to do. You know, it's like I said, I just want to be who I, who I've always been. And, you know, it obviously has changed my life for the better. And I've had a lot of positive things come from it. but like I said, you know, we're out there to have some fun and play some really good golf and hopefully beat everyone up to five Sunday next week.

Yeah, Riggs, I love it. I love it. No, no expectations, just goal setting, just going out there and a cross from his goal. It's something that we need to learn a lot more about and understand and practice. But we're pumped, man. We're pumped for wing foot. We're pumped for you. Thanks for joining the show.

Hopefully we'll see you, you know, in New York next week. We'll be on site. So maybe we'll run into you, but good luck out there next week. Absolutely, guys. Thank you. Always enjoyed it. And we'll see you out there for sure. Cool.

Thanks, Colin. Thanks, Colin. Thanks, guys. Yep. Big thanks to Colin joining the show, like we said, interview that we thought was very good, very insightful, and he's one of the best in the game. And listening to that, you clearly have to believe he will be for a very, very long time.

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That's Tommyjohn.com slash 4. see the website for details. Okay, boys. The United States Golf Association is, of course, preparing for the United States Open. Wingfoot, we've got a bunch coming out from that. We were just kind of jizzing ourselves pre-show looking at our own teasers from our own videos that we are making.

And jizzing ourselves? Yeah, I think that's fairly strong language. Also, accurate, though. It's pretty accurate. Pretty accurate. I was leaking. Oh, geez. That's almost, that's a little more than I wanted.

I would say detail-wise. How much leak? No, I'm not going to ask. It's like I got a couple oysters in my pants. I don't know what that mean. Isn't that from, she's out of my league? He's like, I'm sitting here with an oyster in my pants. That's a great movie.

I want so badly to back you up here, but I don't know. You've never seen she's out of my league, Trent? I think maybe at some point I came across it, but I don't have... Are you fucking kidding me? I don't have reference knowledge of it. Holy shit. All right. That's very surprising for you, Trump.

That's a great little rom-com. I'll put it on the list right after Molly's game. Anyway, fuck you. Anyways, the United States Golf Association announced today a long-term comprehensive partnership with Pinehurst. They're going to make Pinehurst number two the first anchor site for U.S. Opens going forward. So they're going to have the U.S. Open in 2024.

And then it's back there again in 2029. And then I believe it's 2035, 2041, and 2047. He talked about those numbers. Like talking about 2041 makes me want to jump out of my window. Also, I was just thinking about. about 2047, I believe is the last date there, and like how different my life will be. And in this very moment, Riggs just spent 99 consecutive days there,

cried on the way out. Where will my life be when we hit that at 2047? I look forward to hopefully sit back with a beer and laugh. It brings up an interesting question of Riggs, how much credit are you taking for these dates? Oh, God. Well, look, to the naked eye, you're looking at USGA, who's someone I'm very close with,

and you're looking at Pinedhurst, who is a very emotional connection than I have to that place, and you're seeing that the USGA is not only bringing these tournaments there, which is one of, if not the most prestigious tournament in the world, but they're moving basically part of their headquarters to Pynhurst. They're building an office at Pinehurst. They're building a testing center at Pineshurst. So I think it's a great thing.

It's like when you, you know, you set up a little trip or a day of golf and you got one buddy from one group and you got another buddy from another group and you think they're going to hit it off. You think they're going to really like each other and have a great time out there on the course and you book the tea time and you bring them all together. And then you're just kind of witnessing two people who you thought would get along really well, have a fucking great time. It's something that makes you feel good about yourself. So I'm not taking credit, but it's to the naked out, you know, to the observer, you might look at that and be like, hmm, that's interesting. I think it's interesting honestly I mean what are the odds of that

I think it's pretty interesting Frank I couldn't win anywhere what are the odds I mean yeah they could have gone anywhere but like the USGA is the USGA

and Pyner's isn't just like you know Eisenhower Blue shout out Eisenhower Blue I mean it's easy one to just throw a hook at we should have a tournament I was all the shit we say about them

well yeah no yeah but I don't know, man. I think you're underselling how close the four-play brand is with the USGA. Like, I think that we've got some, I think that there's some influence there with pioneers. I think there, I think Riggs is, I think Riggs is on to something here.

I think that there is definitely. It's a wonderful coincidence. It's, I think it's more than a coincidence. I would tend to agree with the point being made by Frankie Borelli on this podcast. Thank you. Of course you would. Well, I'm just looking at the evidence. I mean, you could explain anything as a coincidence.

I mean, you really could. Or you could look at sort of the evidence at hand and maybe draw a logical conclusion. The point is I'm very excited. I think Pioneer's number two, outside of our own connection to it, we've had a lot of history there. We won a really important golf match there as a team, which was great. that Pioneer's number two also falls in that category of courses we love because pretty much anybody can play it. Now, it's not quite Fethpage Black, and with FetFade Black is like $60 if you're a local resident, everybody plays it every weekend. Pioneer's number two is a resort.

It's a nice resort. It's a trip. It's going to cost you a decent penny. But Pioneer's number two is not wing foot. It's not Okma. It's not Shinnock in terms of extreme exclusivity. There's certain elements of the exclusivity that we love that make those places really, really cool in the conditioning and all those things. Pioneer is closer to the People's Open in that sense and that you can walk right out there.

You can walk right up by the 18th Green. They've got the Payne Stewart statue. It's got that history. It's got the anybody can just go book a tea time element to it. And so that when compared to a lot of the other U.S. open venues makes it one of my favorite as well. I agree. Yeah, I think it has to. I think like I actually, you know, I was playing Cyprus last night in the 2K Barstool Society or whatever.

And it's a, like, I'm wondering if there's ever going to be pushback of like Cyprus, allowing people like pull the curtains back actually play that golf course because it feels very much the same way. So when you're talking about like the wing puts in the world and that exclusivity makes it like super kind of like there is some piece of that that makes it even cooler. or it's just different, I guess, in a sense. It is, it's interesting, but yeah, I mean, I think it's a perfect venue for them to go to. I mean, Pinehurst is an ultimate challenge and it's a different challenge. And it's just wild. You know, it's cool, it's cool that a place that has done a lot to cater to the more modern 2020 golfer,

like adding the cradle, like renovating Pinehurst number four, making it really fun. And even in, you know, 2010, 2011, like restoring pyrus number two, they have no rough. It's just that wispy wiregrass, sandy, North Carolina sandhills type grass. And the fact that they've done all those changes and can still and will still host, you know, what's supposed to be golf's toughest test every six years, they're basically becoming the old course at St. Andrews of the U.S. Open is so cool because that's why they put the term. anchor site. I mean, this is going to be every six years, like the British Open, the Open Championship returns to St. Andrews every five years pretty much. And we all go crazy. We all jizz over it,

to use a term. We have a little leakage in our pants over it. And now they're going to kind of work towards creating that. Client. Number two. It's very cool. So who else will be the anchors? There's got to be one or more than one anchor to this boat. There's got to be pebbles, got to be an anchor. Is that an anchor? Yeah, I would guess if you're going to get like a British Open Rota type thing, it's going to be pebble. You know, pyrus number two, obviously pebble. Probably Shinnecock, maybe Oakmont, that gets us to four. Wingfoot, I think, is up there.

That's five. We always are forgetting one or two. Marion, I mean, they just redid. They just had Gil Hans redo Marion. So I don't know that Mary. would be necessarily in every six or seven years stop, but it's definitely up there. Trying to think which other,

are we missing any? Yeah, those are the ones that, I mean. I don't think so. I really don't think so. I think those are kind of going to be the anchor sites, which I'm all for, I'm all for them going back. I would guess that they're going to continue to

every six or seven years, sprinkle in an Aaron Hills or Chambers Bay to kind of, you know, keep it fresh, buy new viz. and see how they do and bring it to different markets, right? Like bring it to the Pacific Northwest is always going to be cool. Bring it to Wisconsin.

It does a lot for those regions. So that's, you know, it'll be, it'll be fun to see how they kind of come up with this new system. They're clearly trying to adopt something closer to what the Open Championship does while maintaining their own integrity of their pedigree and the way that they do the U.S. Open. But I like that they started with Piders number two. And some would call it a coincidence. others might call it

a conclusion based on serendipity sure will use serendipity I'm pumped I'm fucking pumped man how about it's gonna be crazy when they have the actual US open

in 2024 like our access to that our knowledge of that place how many times I'm gonna tweet out the video of me making that put on 18 like it's gonna be it's gonna be awesome that's true

can't fucking wait I think we're still tweeting and stuff in 2024 you think the world is still like like even four years I can't imagine like the world's going to be the same you know I mean I can't look that far ahead at all like we're somebody tweeting out clips in four years 2080 frank you I know it's in like three and a half year I'll be in my 30s like that's just fucking crazy I think I think I'll still be tweeting in 2024 I think that's I hope so for our jobs but my point is is that it's crazy to look that far ahead the fact that they actually

set U.S. opens to 20, 47, and that's something that they're thinking about and planning for and all this stuff makes my head hurt. Dude, when, like, one of these videos are doing, we talked to all these guys from the USDA, and he's just like, we get to these golf courses two years in advance, and we're doing work every single day for that one tournament. Like, like, 622 days out. That day's work has to do with what we're about to see next week. 527 days out. Whatever he does that day has to do with what we're about to see next week. It's a small piece of the puzzle.

To me, that doesn't make any sense. And I guess we all do that in our jobs. Like we're all working towards goals and constantly planning forward and stuff. But never that far in advance. Never that far in advance. That's tangible, right? Like, that's a tangible effort that they're making 622 days. out. For us it might be

yeah, like cultivating a relationship with the guy so that in two and a half years we can get Tiger Woods on a podcast like those types of things are us working towards a goal. But we're not posted up outside of Tiger's agency's office like waiting to talk to them for two years

straight so we can get an interview. Like they're just tangibly on site preparing a golf course and all the logistics around it for a tournament two years in advance. And now they've scheduled this tournament that they just described is in 27 years. Right. Now they won't be doing, but like, honestly, what we learn with Wingfoot is like stuff

five or six years, 10 years in advance goes into that one championship, narrowing fairways, getting certain things for the greens to get up, like rough, new fertilizers, all this stuff to me is a, it's a world that I never knew, like the planning. Like, what do they write this down in a book? Like you can't lose the book, like for 27 years. Like what, where is this stuff going? Are they logging it in an email? Like, do you have to keep that email for 27 years?

Like, like, are they, like, what's going on here? 27 years? Come on. Also, some of the people planning it, they're just not going to be in that job. They're going to be dead. I didn't want to say it, but some of them were probably going to be dead. A decent amount of the people that were involved in the scenario of or involved in the event that took place of scheduling, the 2047 Open

U.S. Open at Pioneers number two, some of those people will be dead by the time that comes around. A good amount of people they'll be working on that course aren't alive. Yes. That's another good point. That's the circle of life, baby.

And then also, they work all that time, and then the weather shows up and drastically changes everything that they've worked on. Well, that's the other thing we have. Or COVID hits, and your tournament just gets canceled. Right. You know that?

because we have talked to people in positions where like the tournament is this week and there are some of the most stressed out people you'll meet because they've been working on it for two or three years and it's like this is the week where it's supposed to happen so now everything we've worked towards hopefully it just works it's got to be a stressful time you think all you think all four of us will be alive by the time of 2047 come on man yeah I'm hoping it's all man I mean I fucking It's just on you a dark flavor. For as pale as you are, you bring some darkness into this chat.

Oh, I'm just trying. Actually, you know what's weird? You know what's weird? You look tansin today. Well, you're only saying that to try and expose me. No, no, no. No, I, no, you just look more tense. I got this new, so I have this new gaming PC.

It's a Lenovo, no free ads. It's like this thing. It's a, whatever, it's a crazy. What are you like? You've been deep in, like, gaming Reddit or something? What do you says right here, Lenovo on the thing? I'm just reading what's on it. Legion, it's a Legion laptop.

Anyway, it's got these, it's got a camera on it. It's got this light that comes off on the camera, and it makes me really pale. I'm telling you I've gotten some color this year. I've telling you, I've showed you the tan lines. I've shown you the tan lines. I've gotten tan. But this thing makes me look like a ghost.

So when we had Colin Morocawa on, I know that a lot of pictures are going to be taken of him on the thing. So I actually on my screen right now, behind our Zoom meeting. My screen is just an orange screen. Because I realize that when I have just like a white screen on it, it's reflecting on my face and I'm so white. So I put an orange screen back there just like,

and I zoomed in on it. I typed an orange box on Google and I zoomed in on it. So it takes up the whole screen and it makes me look kind of tan. Could have looked up. What was the fire fest? Remember when they sent out all those, they sent out the influencers and you put up an orange box and that is like an advertisement for the fire festival.

I have the Fire Fest box up as my background of my laptop right now. That's a little look inside, Frankie's Frank. These cameras, honestly, don't like pick up color. It's nuts. Frank, I went to bed earlier that. How did the islanders do? They got absolutely shit pump. I mean, like, but also when people tweet that stuff at me, I'm like, you just don't watch sports.

You don't know. Like, they always do that as like a joke to me. What's the score of the game? Like, well, you're like, you like, don't watch the game. Yeah, it was bad. Who's getting a phone call right now? It was really bad. They got absolutely shit pumped.

I also think they were tired. I think anyone that thinks the honors aren't going to show up tonight's insane. I think they played three overtime games in the span of six nights and had to travel. She's curious how the game went. They had to travel to fucking Edmonton while Tampa Bay was getting massages in the bubble

like sitting there for a week. That also is it, that's a thing that happens when you're up 3-1 and then you push it to a game seven, you fall a couple of games. you're going to have a really bad travel experience because once they landed, they just fucking played. So the travel was eight to two is just because of travel? No, I just think that they were out of it.

I don't think they had it. It's very much a skill versus systems team. And I think it'll be a better series than game one, but I don't think it goes more than five. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what to think. I'm not confident in a series against a light. I don't think anyone can be when you see that team.

They're insane. They're absolutely insane. I don't want this to be a hockey podcast, and this is not a good one of all. But that goal where Kutrov, like, shipped it and allowed to skate pass was one of the coolest hockey plays I've ever seen. Because, I mean, I've seen a ton of hockey. I've never seen anybody play like that. Because who was it? Was it Pellick or Taze?

Yeah. Either way, like, you're, like, expecting him to receive that puck. He turns his stick a little bit. You're leaning a little bit. Chips it up. Then he gets a step on on. the outside. It was one of the most impressive hockey plays I've ever seen. And then the pass was right on his tape, like, going 200 miles an hour,

and he perfectly puts it five-hole in between Varlamov coming across the crease. It's, and even Brayden points goal in the first minute of the game. Like, you just knew this was going to be a different type of series. That was going to be, you knew it was going to be ugly when he just skated around the D and then just skated around the goalie and put it in the net. It was like, yeah, we have a scene. That little stuttered with the blue line or the top of the circle was incredible. It looked like those clips from back in old-time hockey when one guy's just a little more athletic than the others.

And he just skates past them and then just skates across. And nobody's ever seen that before and slides it into the open. It's like our best deep pairing out there too. Like Poolock was like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck. And he's just like, this guy just turned on the Jets. Like, we're a minute into this thing and game's already over. Yeah. And if you actually watch the game, I just had a ton of opportunities in the first two periods.

They had like five power plays, two breakaways, a short-handed breakaway. I know they got fucking shit pumped. Once it was 5-1, the game was over. The last three goals to me weren't even real goals. So we'll see what happens tonight. I'll say even coach Cooper, former coach of mine, national champs, Coach Cooper even said, he's like, actually what people don't realize is we gave up way more chances than we wanted to, and Vaselpsky played phenomenal, and he's one of his last.

So I do think that there's some merit to that. And I said on the last show, I had said on the show that, like, I think, I'm giving the islanders a lot more credit than most people as they were huge underdogs. And then as I said that, like five minutes later, they're down eight to two. So that was kind of tough. But I'm pulling for the islanders, Frank. Good luck. I'm not.

I'll be first to say it. I'm not pulling for the calendars, but, you know, whatever. We're having a viewing party night for rallies. That should be fun. socially distance. You have to reserve. Well, this is already going to be out. So this isn't doing anything for it.

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So there's a chance I drop out at any moment. Wow, this is kind of fun. Should we do, I guess what minute Trent just disappears on the show? You know, think down, Trent. Well, everything's down. I can barely see you guys. You're going to drop out in 47 seconds. Although I think I aren't, is Frankie knows this more because I feel like your laptop's always sort of teetering on being dead.

how long does 1% last? I think it's got a pretty good light. My 1%'s a nightmare. I have a editing laptop at this point. It does nothing but just fucking crank out pizza reviews and stuff. So it doesn't do anything. It just dies when it's not on.

My 1% is 10 seconds. All right. So I've already been on it for four minutes. So I've shut everything down. I've made the screen as light or like as dark as possible so I can barely see you guys. So hopefully it holds on for the rest of the show. My laptop dies at 12% now.

It just turns off. I have a new one, my business peak on me, new ones. I need a new laptop. My laptop sucks, dude. It freezes all the time. Okay. I gotta eat something.

Maybe I get some ways. What? Get your phone. She dialing to the Zoom via phone. I think I could do that. All right. Just fucking go. I like living on the edge.

Let's keep it rolling. All right, Kramer. On our conversation about the 15th holiday, Eastlake versus the 17th old sawgrass. Someone made the point that the 15th hole at Eastlake, 233 yards water everywhere. We always saw like one ball in the water. 17th old sawgrass like 130 yards.

We see a ton of balls in the water. Someone did make the point there's only 30 players in the field. So we probably should have brought that up. I still would venture to say that the numbers are staggeringly different than they should be, that way more people hit in the water per golf. at Sawgaz than they do at Eastlake on the 15th hole. But when you do factor in that there's like a sixth of the people playing golf that day, then then there's going to be less balls.

That's a good point. All right. So there goes Trent. And Trent just left right now. If someone wants to go back and see if I was correct with the 47 second call, was it exactly 47 seconds, Jake? No, it was probably two minutes. Ah, shit.

But yeah, I agree, Reg. There was like a punch. People being like, oh, there's more win there, whatever the case is nothing. But the one good point that I did see was the number of golfers. All right, so take the top 30 people from TPC sawgrass and then do that over a four-day period and take the top 30 people in this tournament over the four-day period. And I bet you there's still more balls in the water at TPC. see. I would bet that. I think so, too. I think you're right on that. I'm not going to do the stats. I'm not going to run. No, one of these number warriors can do it. The handicapped police.

The handicapped police is all over this. They're going to love to do this. I'm very frustrated with the handicapped police. They're very annoying. Oh, Trent's back. Got his phone. Looking confused. He is not doing well here. Oh, he's gone. We make fun of people doing good exits, bad exits, whatever. I'm trying to get out walking around. I said, Frankie, you did this very seamlessly the other day when you came in from, you were in the car. It was incredible. That was well done.

You're making, you're making Trent look like a 90-year-old man trying to get on Zoom right now. Trent. No, no. He's gone. We've lost them. Okay, from the gallery real quick. You got a couple good ones. Jerry.

Jerry says if the four of you were sitting in Tiger's restaurant and Tiger walked in, would he recognize any of you? Oh, fuck. You would have to look at us, and more importantly, you guys. Like, he would not recognize me at all. I've only had, like, the quickest interaction with him of all time. But I think there's a good chance if he looked at our table, he would recognize you guys. I think he'd recognize Riggs for sure.

I think he would recognize us. I think that that point that he gave me at the, when we were doing the celebration, after he dominated Abraham Answer who Frankie said should quit golf, I think that that showed that he had some recognition. Yeah, he also slapped your ass after. And he did right after he walked off and they were doing photos on the green

as the captain with the President's Cup in his hand, he slapped my ass. So why don't we do this? Why don't we just go to the restaurant just every night? I mean, he goes there, right? That's a really good idea. How can we haven't thought of that? We should just move our headquarters down at Jupiter.

Okay. I'll do that. Jupli. And just, like, live there and constantly, we record our podcast from outside the restaurant. We do, like, we just live there. Yeah, why don't we just record it from inside the restaurant? Just do it at a table. Sure.

And, yeah, oh, Tiger, we're just talking golf. You want to sit down and just say that every day when you walked by? Yeah. The fact that, yeah, I don't know if it's like, I mean, people know that he has a stretcher. But the fact that, like, Tiger Woods just goes to that place is hilarious. There's pictures all the time of him sitting down at the bar with, like, his golf outfit on. It's like it feels like it's a green jacket. It feels like it's a fake life place.

Like you walk into this room and Tiger Woods is just in there, like, eating, like, clams and oysters. Like a steak. Like, you first fake enough. And then you add his restaurant. Like, to get to Jupiter and be a part of that community, it feels like you have to be at a certain, like, echelon. Like they don't just let anything. Like Seth Walk and go there.

Right. But like we couldn't, I don't know if we could find it. Like if you go to like, if you go to Google Maps, can you find his restaurant? It's like North Korea. It doesn't show up on the maps. Exactly. It's like, you ever notice that North Korea just like doesn't show up on Google Earth? No. Really? Places within the U.S. that's the same way. Trent, you're back? Can you guys hear me? Yeah. Actually better.

Yeah. So I'm on my phone now and I'm using my AirPods, which I've never. never used before. That's sort of a different experience. But yeah, I've never used my AirPods. You're about to give a keynote speech right now with your hands like this. You're leaning forward into the camera. I do have like a, who's the CEO of Apple? Well, like Steve Jobs was the Tim Cook, yeah. Oh, yeah, but Steve Jobs. I feel like I have Steve Jobs look. Some people say Steve Jobs is still alive in like Panama. You ever see that picture? I have seen that picture, yeah. It's so funny. How did you guys get on the topic of stalking Tiger Woods? good question so uh the reason is that our friend jerry said if the four of you were sitting in tiger's

restaurant and tiger walked in would he recognize you any of you guys your answer was no um our answer was he definitely wouldn't recognize lurch and that he now lurch actually said that maybe he just like would recognize lurch for being like what he is like like what is like maybe he wouldn't put one-on-one together, but he would, all right, my point is, he wouldn't know that Lurch is Lurch, but he would recognize Lurch first because Lurch is much more, like, standing out, like, oh, what is that? What is that

over that? Although, who's that a freak in my restaurant? I see where I jumped in now where you're saying, because I remember in Australia, and you guys probably talked about this, when he fist bumped all of us, he did point at Riggs. He gave Riggs a point on the show. Oh, you're that guy. Yep. So maybe he would. And he slapped my ass, remember that?

I do remember that. I do remember that. I do remember that. You met him. You met him. you interviewed him like for two minutes before his charity event. Like we've been around like crazy. He talked to us at Pebble Beach. Like at some point we're acting like this guy doesn't have like a memory at all. Like he obviously would like recognize we've been around. Like there was a good stretch for a year.

Every time he showed up to a big tournament, we were there like in the mix in some capacity. We were talking to Robbie Mac. We're on the ropes. We're there at Beth Page. We're there everywhere. We're just in the mix. We're at Pebble Beach like crazy. He talked to us at Pebble Beach.

slap the rice in Australia, no matter where he went in the world, we were there. So, like, at some point, he just knows, like, oh, yeah, those are those guys that keep seeing all around. Like, we see people in the media center that, like, we just, like, know now because we just see him. Not enough is made of that ass slap. I don't even know if we talked about that publicly or not. I just, that was a huge moment.

Well, it was a little bit like, like, Morikawa said, where it's like, I don't know if Tiger's going to get mad for me saying that he slapped my ass. But I do think, like, we've noticed with Steining, who's Tiger's guy, like, whenever Tiger wins attorney and they hug, they're big ass slap guys. That's just like Tiger's crew, that's their little, they slap out. That's fine. So it's, like, very encouraging. Like, when guys run off the sideline and the coach slaps him on the ass, like, great work

out there, buddy. That's kind of the M.O. on it. And, yeah, we were all standing around the green. It's the main, I think it was the 18th Green, and they did the presentation, and Tiger had the trophy. They take a million photos. And Tiger was taking photos longer than anyone else. So everybody left.

We were standing right by the little walkway where they were going to walk from the 18th green towards their little head out of. Sorry, I can't. Every time I think of that drinking out of cups video when someone says the word walkway, go on. And Tiger walked right by and I put my fist out and was like, congrats, Tiger, great work.

And he gave me a fist pump. Thank you. And then with the other hand, as he walked by, I slapped my fucking ass. And then Frankie said, did Tiger just slap your ass? I was like, yeah, unless that was one of you guys. I think that was what just happened. It was nuts.

It was absolutely nuts. I would guess that he, I think he would recognize our crew. You'd be like, oh, those are the same guys that are just at tournaments and always want to talk to me. You're lucky that he slapped your ass and that I didn't because I have a history of slapping people's ass and it didn't, it doesn't go out. Well, I don't have a history.

I just have one person. and it's Louis Severino on the Yankees. He was a Cy Young candidate for the Yankees. We were in D.C. for the All-Star game. We were at this Adidas party. Everyone's there. J.D. Martinez, Chris Sal, Aaron Judge, Louis Severino. Severino was starting the All-Star game.

I'm pretty sure he was like pitching second or something like that. And I was in fully Yankees mode going crazy. We had just gotten talked up to by Chris Sale and J.D. Martinez. They're shitting on us with Jared, shitting on the Yankees. I remember asking J.D. Martinez when he was on the Yankees. that run with the socks. I'm like, can you stop hitting baseballs? He was hit, like, 400 at the time.

Like, just stop hitting baseballs. And he looked at me and said, I will never. I'll never stop hitting baseball. And so I was, like, really down that, like, the Yankees weren't showing up. And Severino showed up. And I went nuts. I had a little pops in me. I had a couple sodas, ice cold, Dan soders.

And, um, and I went out to him and I'm like, Sevy, baby, let's go. Like, let's fucking get it. And I just smacked him in the ass. And he went, whoa. And, like, hot. popped up and like just kind of look back and did a little shuffle towards the door. Since then, since that legitimate contact, palms, the ass cheek, he legitimately has not won a game. Like, I'm talking, his career ended.

He's the most, he was like the most prized possession that the Yankees had at the time. And he went like, he went like 0 and 8 after the All Star break with a 6ERA, blew up in the playoffs. We lost the playoffs because of it. Then the next year he got Tommy John surgery, his elbows started falling apart, he missed a whole season. He has not yet recovered. He's not pitching now. Ever since I slapped Louis Severino, nothing has gone correctly in the Yankees world. And it's crazy.

It's crazy the downturn. And it's that day the downturn happened. Don't go near Tiger. The point is I'm really excited that it was Tiger that slapped my ass and not breaking to Perala the pizza maker. Okay. I think that's all I got. I think we're done here.

I think I'm excited about the interview about Cala Moracawa. I'm kind of giddy about it and for people to listen to it. So yeah, I don't know if you guys have any final thoughts, but if not, then we can just end the show now. Yeah, it's a good interview. You know, he's in a great mental headspace, something better than we could ever basically get to. And it's just the joy to listen and learn from the guy.

So enjoy the interview. Well, they already heard it. They already heard it. Oh, well, I hope you had a great interview. That's right. Yeah, I found that out. No, yeah, yeah. You cranked you.

You cranked yourself a little bit there. Go Tampa. And play in the Barstville Golf Society. Go buy PGA 2K21 and you're going to join this thing. We have events every single night. Things exploding. We got 60,000 members in this thing. PC stand up.

You guys want the PC. We only got like 1,500 people in PC. If we're lucky. Xbox is killing it. They got 30 on their own. So PC, if you have a PC, join it. We got tournaments. We're creating a world.

So get excited for that. Like a landing page. We're going to make our own little USGA thing. Maybe we'll all go down to Pioneers because of the Barstledas Society. Ooh. Oh, I dig that. All right. Everybody have a great weekend.

We'll be back for U.S. Open Week. Woo! It'll be U.S. Open Week. That's very, very cool. I didn't even put that together. Have a great weekend. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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