Fore Play - Comin’ Homa But Not Finau

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

Max Homa gets an extremely popular hometown win at Riviera while Tony Finau, again, comes up just short. We breakdown everything 2021 Genesis Invitational, from Max’s tree shot to Saturday’s wind delay to Tiger’s appearance and more. We also give our thoughts on the USGA and R&A’s new proposed amateur rules, and where a potential match with Whitney and the Chiclets crew stands!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. February 23rd, 2021, one of the good guys, one of the people's golfers, one of the handful of folks on the PGA tour, who has done an excellent job in this day and age of showcasing that he's a truly normal, average person when it comes to personality, friendship, mingling with people, utilizing social media. Max Homa wins on the PGA tour, which was probably outside of a major championship or maybe making the winning cut at a Ryder Cup. Very clear that it was the biggest thing that could have possibly happened in his career.

Max has been on this show before, maybe multiple times. He interacts and chirps us on Twitter all the time. He's been on with a part of my take guys. He's done podcasts and he has tweeted nonstop pretty much for the last five, six years. Got a huge win. We're going to get into the that. Tiger Woods made an appearance. Don't think we loved it. We're going to get into that. It is myself, Frankie, and Trent Lurch, unfortunately, has a real-life job today that he cannot make it, but hopefully he'll be back on Thursday. We have a bunch of interviews coming. I believe in typical four-play fashion, they're all just going to be stacked into the next show or two, and we're not going to have any of them for this show, which is good because we got a lot to break down

and get into. Gentlemen, hello, how are we? I'm doing well. I feel good. I'm very excited to talk about what happened to Riviera yesterday. And you're right. I think Max Homa said that this was the biggest thing he could ever do in his career. Even if even majors aside, Rider Cups aside, he obviously grew up. We'll talk all about it. But it's exciting to talk about a guy like Max Homa. Obviously, we're going to talk about 20 feet now as well.

And yeah, I got some things that we need to discuss when it comes to Tiger Woods in the interview that he gave yesterday. So I'm very excited to get into all that. Doing well. It was a lot of fun watching golf. It's been a couple good weeks here, a couple good weekends here, for golf. I mean, without Tiger Woods in the mix, it's kind of crazy that we have. And I know I said crazy again. I'm trying to limit the word crazy. I mean, I get a million tweets about every single time,

but that's just a word I mean. You're trying to improve your craft. Yeah, so I want the listeners to know that I'm actively thinking about how often I say the word crazy. And it is crazy, how often I say the word crazy. But, you know, it is, it's, it was a lot of fun with, you know, you have guys like Max Holman and Tony Fee now. The fact that we have this many, you know, we have this many characters in golf and people that we care about that want to win. When I was growing up, it was Tiger Woods. Even a couple of years ago, it was just Tiger Woods. I didn't care about any other person in the world.

And now I'm legitimately on the edge of my seat to see if Tony Finau wins a golf tournament or if Max Homo wins a golf tournament or Jordan Speeth can make a cut and make a run. So golf's in a really good spot. And it's showing big time in 2021 with no fans. It's been a lot of intense coming down to the stretch, final hole. chip-ins, going putts. It's really, really good golf recently. Yeah, I agree. I would have never guessed, or at least it would have been hard for me to believe that we would be at a point where Tiger Woods is a complete non-factor right now for the last six months, even really a year and a half,

just hasn't really been there. Yet the golf has been phenomenal. And there were moments yesterday where I thought, you know, whatever you might claim the reason is or how we got to this point, but there were a handful of guys who, when they would show them, I would have the, genuine concern if it went poorly or I would have very genuine excitement if it went well for them. Matthew Fitzpatrick was another one where he's up there and we've had him on a bunch. He's interacted with us a bunch. He's shown a really cool side of his personality. He's up there and in the mix and has a chance to win the tournament.

Max Homa and his storyline and him being the Twitter roast guy, he's right there. Tony Fienow. And the fact we've been talking about him for years now and like it feels like three years ago we started making the jokes about like runner up again one of these days is going to win soon and it's been three years and yet he again missed a put that was the final clip of a tournament and ultimately gave somebody else the win so there's all these storylines going on and that's not even talking about the real star outside of max from this past week which was riviera i mean riviera gets rave reviews every year from the players this year maybe more so than ever i heard there's there's this

movement coming, that everybody wants it to host a major championship again. I think it was like the 1945 U.S. Open's the only major that place has ever held, which is not to steal Frankie's word, but that's crazy. There was a wind delay, the first wind delay since British Open a lot ago, I think, at St. Andrews, where it was just too windy for golf, which is, I mean, I didn't hear him saying that when I was in Bermuda shooting fucking 105, but too windy for them to play golf, which had all kinds of people in an uproar, especially when we're the type of community, and type of golf fans that love carnage.

And now you're telling me, conditions are perfect. Greens are firm, fast, and it's windy as hell. We're going to see people shooting 82 out there. This is going to be great. And they just stopped play. That had people going nuts. So there's a ton to get to, boys. It's exciting to have a lot to talk about.

And no offense to Tiger, but when it's not all about one guy, it is very excited. Agreed. Tiger did show a little bit on Sunday. Well, it's his turn. Of course he did. Yeah. It was a stunning, stunning segment by Eldrick. Okay.

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over the years. Let's start with Max Homer. He had last year, I believe, finished top five. And the story goes, as we've all heard at this point, but he's a local kid. He's an LA guy. He wears the Dodgers hat every time I've ever seen him off camera or Lakers jersey. So he's as L.A. as it gets, he's a huge sports fan. Again, that's why he's on with part of my take all time. He loves sports and he loves L.A. He, since he was, I believe, two years old is the number, has been going to this tournament, the L.A. Open, the Genesis, whatever it's transformed into name-wise, going to this golf course, going to this tournament. It was his favorite thing. It was what he requested from his parents, from his dad to take him down there, drive him

the half hour or so from their home to this tournament. One of his, I think his first tweet when he finished was that like, I spent over a dozen years trying to just get a high five from Tiger at this golf course. And today he just hand it. me a trophy. When he finished in the top five last year, he spoke afterwards about how like his brain was scrambled. He couldn't even think because there was so much going on, so much emotion, so much action, trying to play good golf. He was proud of the way that he finished, but like just wanted to get back there again in his career and have a chance to win yesterday. I don't exactly know where to start, but all of the drama from him playing a seemingly flawless

couple rounds really of golf making no bogeys yesterday. And I think in the third round, it was well in a third round where he didn't make any bogeys coming in. And then seems like he can't miss on 17. It's a great bunker shot. Makes like the six or eight foot little slider to get tied for the lead. And then hits a great drive and an absolute dart into the 72nd hole, three feet below the hole, the thing's over.

They got the camera on Tony Feenehouse. They've got like devastation cam that's showing Max Homa. and you're like, this is perfect. And then he fucking misses. So all of that, before we get into the playoff, it was just as exciting of a conclusion for Max as you could have. And then you had the missed putt and emotions were wild. Yeah, there's a lot of things that make Max Homer relatable.

We talk about those things all the time. But there were two things in the post-round interview that really made it that way. And the one was, you're not supposed to miss a three-and-a-half-foot put in front of Tiger Woods. Like, he's like, I was shaking like a leap. I was incredibly nervous. It's three feet. I think somebody pulled up the stat. He was within three feet or inside three feet.

He was 99.57% leading up to that point. And he just, it lived out like a motherfucker and he missed it. And then he also said he saw a tiger on Saturday, but he was too scared to talk to him. We're talking about a guy who was eventually going to end up winning the tournament in a playoff against Tony Fee now. He obviously belongs there, no doubt about it. And he still is too scared to talk to Tiger Woods.

That's how we are. We're scared to talk to Tiger Woods. When we met Tiger Woods, I got my brain scrambled by one question, and Frankie Borelli didn't say one word. He just smiled a bunch. So, like, the things, Max Homa is such a great guy to follow on Twitter and just to follow his PJ tour career because he really does just feel like one of us, and he got handed a trophy by Tiger Woods yesterday.

It's an incredible story. Yeah, he's the guy from Twitter. That's what did I tweet yesterday. The guy from Twitter won a golf tournament, and Tiger Woods handed him a fucking trophy. That's a crazy, here we go again. Motherfucker. That's just an insane. like thing that happened in the world yesterday,

that the dude that tweets out memes and mean things about our golf swings and the guy that we can go to to like try and get some social interaction and maybe he'll like roast your golf swing once in a while and you get a couple retweets. That guy went out there, played like you said, a flawless, especially coming down the stretch. Like some of those drives you were hitting were perfect. Faldo was like so impressed with his composure.

I mean, they just, they were so into how he was playing. You had burns. He was burning. up, no pun intended, but he was on, he was just flying off a clip. And then he had Tony Fee now, we'll get into that whole thing. But the fact that he played just so perfectly with all, and knowing all of those emotions going through his head, you know it's your home course, you know you want to win, you know you were top five last year, you know that you have all these things going through your brain.

Tiger Woods is standing on top of the green waiting to hand you this trophy that you've always wanted to win your whole entire life, missing that putt going to play out. The composure to be able to reset your brain, man, I, I'm. I really got to hand it to him because I didn't know that a guy from Twitter had that in him. Like, I thought that he would be the guy that would be afraid to talk to Tiger because he isn't a pro golfer. He's just the guy from Twitter. He's not that mentality. He doesn't have the Xander Schaftly cool guy.

I'm supposed to be here, been there, done that. He doesn't have the Rory McElroy bounce, the walk down the fairway. He's just the guy from Twitter. And that's all he'll ever be in my brain. The fact that he's winning makes no sense. I hear you. It's pretty interesting how little people are now talking about Sam Burns. We're talking about a guy who is leading for three days straight.

And at one point after Friday, he had a five-stroke lead on the entire field. And then on Saturday, he's about to tee off. And the wind starts to pick up like crazy, four-hour delay. And then he just has a couple bogeys on the back nine on Sunday, falls out of contention. And now it's all, and rightfully so it's about Max Homa and Tony Fienow. but Sam Burns for 12 to 13 holes on Sunday was staring down playing in a final group with Dustin Johnson and he shot 31 on the front night I believe

he was playing great and then he just faded it a little bit and now we're no longer talking about Sam Burns I feel kind of bad for I do a couple names out there and Sam Burns is one of them when he's leading the golf tournament going into Sunday you say there's no chance this guy wins and he's that's what I kept saying that too and then he played so well in the front night on Sunday with DJ his group I was like oh he might actually do this and then it didn't work out i i feel bad for brother when when they were showing the when they

were showing the when they were on whole 1413 i was looking from to an on whoever was in the mix i'm like all right we got djs in the mix i never looked at burns once you just felt it you just knew i had to look him up he's from out he went to ls u he's 24 years old when you have to know all this stuff about the guy you know he has no chance no chance yeah he's young that's you're you're right like And I, like this will be, this will be part of the reason that in the future, you will think San Burns has a chance to win. But because this was the time, you were right. And it was the same way. I was like, okay, you can't have all these names.

You can't have DJ. You can't have Tony Fina. You can't have Max Homo who's got the home down story who's won at Quill Hall before. Can't have these names. And then Sam Burns is just going to win it. And you weren't sure how he wasn't going to win it. But I completely agree with you, Frankie. He wasn't.

I feel bad in the sense that, like, if this were, um, If this were hockey, like he would just have a three to one series lead over the other team. But like, because it's golf, he just lost the tournament and nobody's talking about it. So that's, that's very unfortunate. You win three of the four days, you know, you dominate, you lead wire to wire. And then the last seven holes, he didn't even melt down. He just stumbled a little and other people just stole it from him. So I do feel bad.

I was just looking max home. I think his last 26 holes, if you include the playoff holes, he didn't make a bogey at Riviera under intense pressure and tough conditions in a tournament where only three players finished double digits under part. So clearly a golf course that was playing difficult. You get on the wrong side. You hit a poor T shot. You get behind a tree, which did happen to him. You can make a bogey so easily out at Riviera.

And for the last 20 Sunday and the final round of Saturday, which a lot of it was on Sunday as well, no bogeys from him. That's just so money for him to go out there and snag the tournament like that. So you're right, Frankie, to have it be a guy that can also play, you know, the social media game and play it well and play it authentically, it almost makes you wonder like, why can't more people do it, right? Like his, he's not, he's not sacrificing his career and how good he could be at golf, like some people online might say, because he just sends out 10 or 20 tweets a day. Like it doesn't, he's just able to do both, but it seems like you shouldn't. You can't be a normal person who does what we do on. Twitter and arguably does it better than we do. And then like also win a PGA tour event at Riviera.

You just can't do that. Right. It's actually kind of fucked up. Like what Twitter's our area. That's our space. That's where we work and try to be funny. You can't also you can't do that and also be great on the PGA tour and win $1.6 million at Riviera.

Like it's almost unfair that he gets both of those things. I think Big Cat, I think Big Cat tweeted out. But once he missed that put on 18, Big Cat in all caps, it was like, oh, no, Max. how can you come back to Twitter now? There is that fine line where if you become a meme or something, when you are the meme tweeter guy, there is no coming back from it. Like he has made his bed,

you would have to sleep in it. When he becomes a Twitter guy, he would get absolutely, like, had he not won that tournament yesterday, it would have been a tough couple days on the Twitter sphere for Max Homa. You just know, like everyone's tweeting at him, how he missed that put,

you know, that he took it back the wrong way you weren't aiming the right spot. Like it just would have been nonstop. So he, maybe the biggest victory for him there was the fact that he gets to do his little victory tour on Twitter now. And how impressive was it for him to come back from that? Because you're right. Like that is, he, he wouldn't be able to log in, I would say, for two to three days because it would just be flooded with that zoom up, that super zoom that they had on his put and it lipping out. And that being a lasting memory at your course, that's your spot, your favorite tournament.

You have made it known that it's your favorite. tournament. He even was getting in the mix with us before we were chirping about he's on the boosted bet with speed. So it's like don't fuck it up this week. And then yeah, he was still going to finish top 30. But for that clip to have been the lasting memory from him and then him somehow to like go over to the range. He was on his phone a little bit. He said he's texting some buddies, talk to the wife. And then he goes out there. It's a good tee shot on 10, stymied behind a tree. And one of the more amazing things I've seen and really very telling of I would say the difference between a lot of us, especially Frankie Borrelli,

and like a professional athlete like Max, he walked up and they had the super zoom in again on his face when he realized where the ball was. It was no panic. He just kind of surveyed the situation, looked at his options, hit a great shot and gave himself a chance. Whereas if you look at all of our reactions on Twitter,

it was like meltdown. Oh my God. Fuck. Frankie said like tournament over. And then like he just, he just hits a hooded 50-degree, hook wedge punch from behind a tree that like spins up onto the green to 10 feet and almost make birdie that was fucking awesome that he did that.

Being up against that tree was bad luck, but I think the camera angle fucked those of us on Twitter because when they first showed it, I didn't think he was going to be able to get a swing on it. I thought he was going to have to go lefty and just punch it out of there. But it was actually the camera was on the other side. So he was going to be able to get a righty swing on it. So it wasn't as bad as I initially thought it was, but that's taking nothing away from the eventual shot that he hit because.

I mean, nobody on this podcast, especially, gets anywhere close to the green from that spot. So for him to do that just to stay alive was one of the more impressive things I've seen lately. First camera angle was a bitch. I mean, the first camera angle of that ball, that ball is nestled up there. I'm saying he has to hit it left, the opposite hand, the whole thing. There's no chance he gets that ball up and down. He loses the tournament. Tony Finaw wins.

Like, there was no way. And then all of a sudden, he's addressing the ball and he just gets a full swing at the thing and can punch it out. I was like, well, now I want to take my tweet back. I almost like, I wanted, I want the Twitter to give me my tweet back because the first, I don't know, six full minutes of us talking about that ball, there was no chance. I screamed when I was watching it. He has to make it take it unplayable or hit it backwards. He's done.

The game's over. Today is over. And then all of a sudden they show him address the ball. I mean, nothing was in the way of that sling. Yeah, he had to turn over the wrist a little bit, but he's a fucking professional athlete. I was stunned at how different, how different the two camera angles were. I don't know where that first one was from.

If that were one of our videos, everyone would claim that we cheated, that we move the ball. Yes, yes. Like people just would be like, you guys are scumbags. That's not where it was. And so the first camera angle

completely, completely fucked us. And he had the shot. Like, now still pulling that shot off on that green where like you watch people go ping pong back and forth on that green all the time. So if he hit the, that ball when you're trying to like hit some weird hooded thing into the hill like he hits it a little too hard it just goes over the green into like a bunker and then you're fucked um so he had a great

shot he did say afterwards even like yeah i don't think that that that shot was as hard as other people probably thought that it was so so good good on him he figured it out but to do it in that moment i mean guess what a three foot putts also not that fucking hard but he missed that because there's just it's hard to win a golf tournament so for him to hit that shot and come back um to not get up and down was, you know, as Tony as it gets. Like the last two holes in the playoff, you know, really the last three holes. If you count the 72nd hole, it's a great drive. He's got like a pitching wedge in or a nine-eyed or something.

And like chunk hooked it a little bit into the left spot where you can't really hit it. That's really the shot that not enough people are talking about because that was the one. If he just puts it on the green anywhere, anywhere close, he's got to look at Bernie. and it could be it would be over but he middle of the fairway i think it was 145 146 yards out and he just chunks it to the fringe and that's really where he lost the tournament in my opinion yeah and then he doesn't get up and down on 10 after hitting a great t shot and then he he he hits a poor shot on the what is it 14 that's that part 3 and then fails to get up and down so yeah the guy shot fucking 64 did he did he could you say overall yesterday he just overall

choked. No, but it's like he's, there's, you go through those last three holes and it's like, he just needed to be one shot better over those three holes after coming off a day where he shot 64. It's like he just under the pressure wasn't as good as he was the rest of the time. And that's what adds up to a million second places and a million top tens over the last five years instead of wins. Is that a bad thing for that human compared to other humans? No, the guy made a million dollars yesterday. Literally made a million dollars. And he does that all time. He's got, I think he has five top five finishes this year. So in his last nine starts or something like that. Like that is those numbers, he's got five top 10 finishes and nine starts this season.

So it's like clearly he's cash and checks. He's a great player. But there's a difference between winning tournaments and not winning tournaments. And when the monkey just keeps getting bigger and bigger on that back, it's he's got to be thinking about it nonstop. Like he has to be thinking about it nonstop. Yeah. I saw it. It's a. It's a. Oh, go ahead. Sorry, man. You know, this is this office. I'm back in the office and there's people walking around.

The service isn't as good. We have this huge office. There's nowhere to record this podcast. I'm in a little fucking shoe room. It's crazy and I can't get anything done in here. It's opportunities wasted. That's the biggest thing for me. You're not going to get that many opportunities in your life to make an impact on the sport,

blah, blah, blah, blah, get your name in history. These guys are all making money. Tony Fee now is a fucking Nike athlete that they're all making money, right? And he makes a shit ton of money. After a first, he won in Puerto Rico. He was on whatever. This fucking guy needs to win golf tournaments. He's had so many chances.

How many second place finishes? How many top five? Just get it done. You have a chance. It's like the Islanders with me last year. They made it to the Eastern Conference finals. How many more times are you going to get there to game six where you're a couple periods away from the Stanley Cup finals?

You have to do it all over again next year. Tony Feene has to do it all over again. He has to shoot a 64. He's got to get into a playoff. You know how hard that is against the competition he plays against? He's standing on top of 18, watching Max Homa. Max Homa misses the pot. Tony has another chance, and he still loses.

This guy can't get it done. He just can't get it done. And I feel so bad for this motherfucker because it's just, it's opportunities wasted. He could have, I don't know, conservatively speaking, 10 PGA Tour wins at this point, maybe 12, maybe 15 who know like it's getting so ridiculous to the point where every week he's in the top five every single one dude it's it's February of 2021 he has how many top five finishes five this season he's already got five this season up 10 finish I mean what are we talking about here the guy's nonstop in the mix he's one or two strokes he's he's a bladed wedge over the green or a chunk hook into

the bunker away from winning every time Yeah, since his win in 2016, he's got 10 runner-up finishes, 21 top-fives, and 37 top-tens. He's made $20 million. Ten runner-ups. Ten runner-ups is statistically a ton of them. Yesterday was his 10th runner-up. Ten, he's made $20 million. So, again, the money's not the thing. We're no longer talking about money.

No. Tony Finau has more than enough money. It's going to be fine. He needs a win. Is he, I'm starting to worry he's just one of these guys. guys. I feel like we all know people in our lives. I'm not just talking golf. I'm just talking people we know who things. There's some people who where things always go right. They get all the breaks. Everything goes their way. They end up very successful. Things are great. And then there's people who

there's just everything goes wrong. And it's tough to say that with Tony because he's got made 20 million since that win. Everything is all good. He's a professional golfer. He's incredible at golf, whatever. But what if it just continues to break this way for the rest of his career? And he's in his 30s. I think people get confused that they think that he's in his mid to late 20s. He's into his 30s now. Like what if he's just one of those guys where things never break his way and he never gets a win again? And you know, to Frankie's point, like look at speed. Like look how easily it can just go away, you know, like you do need to capitalize when you have these chances. And to go like to not, it's a hockey podcast, but I remember when the blues made their run and actually

one. I remember it was game seven of round two when they were playing the Dallas stars. And I remember they were just fucking dominating them, but it goes to double overtime of game seven. Pat Maroons ends up scoring. But in that overtime, I was like, this is it. Like, if the blues don't win this game, they'll never win a Stanley Cup. Even though we're only in round two. And if they do win this game, I think they're going to win the cup. They're the best team in the league. But they could just, right now, something like a fucking light could flicker in the background. And Benner can't see a puck. And it goes in on, and, um, it's just over.

We're just never going to win his Stanley Cup. Like, that's how easily shit can just not work out. And if it doesn't, you don't know ever if you're going to get back there. Like Tony Fienow could fuck. Look at what happened to Francesco Mouinari, which shout out. Nobody's talking about him. I saw he had like a sneaky tide for eighth or something. But that fucking guy, he flares a nine iron or whatever on the 12th hole at Augusta,

Tiger stomps on his face and that guy fell off the face of the earth for two years. Like, you just don't, it's not easy to play good golf. And any one of these moments when Tony doesn't. cash in could be the last time for years that he has a chance to win a golf term. This isn't the college basketball podcast, but I feel that way with Iowa basketball right now. We've got Luca Garza, player of the year, he's going to win it. And this is our best chance at getting to the final four, maybe winning a title. As soon as Luca Garza walks out of that locker room for the last time, there won't be

a Iowa basketball team like this for 50 years. I'll probably be dead the next time that they compete. So it is. It's all about opportunities. And the one, each time Tony lets one go, that. could just be the last one. Everybody's rooting for Finole. And that was the theme on Twitter yesterday was

everybody's rooting for Fianowna. So when that playoff came about, it was just like, all right, whoever wins, we're going to be happy. But I definitely felt more devastated for Tony Fienow yesterday than I have in any of his other close calls. That was,

that hockey game was when Jamie Bennett put it through Binnington's legs and it went off the post and then went across the fucking goal line. He did a wide open wrap around like, and he just missed. And if that goes, in the blues the blues might go another 30 years and have never won us to be like no way does that

go in and then they win the Stanley Cup two rounds later so many things happen after that but if you go back to that one moment they just lose that's just so insane they lose us same with tony pina they're like famous infamously the team that never gets past the second round if that talk just goes in the net like you should have yeah and same i mean you can break down all of sports down to like the millisecond and all these little moments. But when it starts to add up, right? Like you can say, oh, Derek Jeter, the flip play. Maybe he wasn't out at home play at Jeremy Giambi, the whole thing, Horipasotomi but like it's millisecond seconds, right? All these things that happen in sports, you can break it down. But when you, when you have such a big sample size like Tony Fee now, you're allowed to

start saying, well, now these are opportunities wasted. Like, it's not just one or two times where, you know, serendipity happens or something for another guy. And, and, and, and someone has a career day and makes a 80 foot putt to beat him. No, no, no. Like Tony Fienow has had every single chance to get wins in the last five years. He has 10 second place finishes. You know, let's fire that at a 30% clip, Tony. And let's just win three more golf tournaments.

And you are like, you're in there, man. That's four wins on the PGA tour. You're fucking a guy of this era that just can get it done. I can't wrap my head around Tony Fino. such a good guy. We've, we've been in the mix around him. We've seen other, his peers talk about how good of a duty is. I love Tony Fina, even though we've never really had a chance to talk to him. I may have, I think I asked him one question in Australia and we were pretending to be journalists. Remember we like, we were thinking about words to like say to people? I was like,

hey, Tony, what are you thinking about this sandbelt golf course? Is that something that you, you prepare for? Or he's like, what? He tried to answer it so nice, but I. But I, I don't, the more people we talk about Australia, the more I realize I don't remember 90% of it. Dude, they were on these platforms and we were just walking around trying to act like fucking, I don't know, Jeff Shackleford. Like we had a notebook of questions or something. And I had nothing. And I said, hey, Tony, you know, I just asked them nothing. Nothing.

Because all those questions are nothing. If you really think about it, like all those questions are absolutely nothing. You very rarely. Yeah. You're not going to. I'll say to when I do listen to those pressers, like I was even listening to Maxes last night after. And like the questions that the journalist asked,

I would say they miss at about a 70% clip that their questions just suck. And they lead to absolutely nothing entertaining whatsoever. And you can tell that the player even is like, how could you possibly want to know anything that I'm going to, like what words that I'm going to speak in reaction to the words that you just spoke to me. Like, what are we doing here? So to think then that we were going to be able to do that in Australia on that platform. But you're right. Tony Fienow, by all accounts, nicest guy on the

planet. He posted afterwards a class act, a picture of his son, Sage, I think is his name, like standing up on the TV, like hugging daddy because he's watching him on TV. And he basically just wrote that like, yeah, keep your head down, keep grinding, you know, great week this week with his caddy. And so he just handled the best they could. It does feel a little bit like Trent shout to The Bachelor. It feels like when they pan to him after a loss, it's like those cameras and when they're in the limo after they've just had their heart ripped out and it's like a contractual obligation where they have to speak to the camera. That's what they like they did the whole thing with Max and he's crying and he's telling stories about him and his dad and going out to Revere and

how this means the world to him. There's no better tournament to win. And then they're like, all right, Doddy, like now four inches over here to the left. What's Tony up to? He's just I think she even said, that's got to be tough for you to hear how important this tournament was to backstoba. And Tony, he is a great guy. He's like, yeah, you know, he even said, and this broke my heart a little bit too, where he said, it hasn't even really hit me what just happened yet. I haven't been able to, because it is, we're talking three, four minutes after, you know, he loses on the 14 pole.

He's like, yeah, it hasn't really sunk in what's going on yet. And you just think that later on the night, he's got to, he's just got to be kicking himself. being like I was that close again. I mean, we can all say that Tony's a great guy. He'll be up there again. He's going to probably one eventually, right? I think we all assume that's going to happen. But there's got to be moments at night when he's staring up at the ceiling before he falls

asleep, just being like, that was another one. That was a fucking another one. God, that put on 14, he saw the break. Like, if you give a guy like Tony Fee now, that exact line and he knows exactly where to go, I couldn't believe he missed that. It's just, it's a tough pot. It's in the shadow. is the whole thing. It slides, but he knew the break, man.

When you give a guy like Tony Fee now, who's 10, 10 top, 10 runner-ups in the last fucking five years, you'd give him a line. I feel like he makes a putt every single time. I mean, Riggs makes puss when we play fucking scrambles when he sees the line. Like, I just couldn't believe he was that off. He gave it too much juice. I'm glad you said that because whenever I do post a daily nine or I referenced one of those scramble putts I've made. Everyone's like, well, you got to see the read. And it's like, okay, the best players in the fucking world just got to see the read. And he just miss it. So it's not as easy as you think. But it is, look, if I miss a fucking putt in one of our

matches and Frankie gets the laugh at me all night, I'm staring at the ceiling all night and I can't get over it. So now you're talking about Tony Fienow, you know, losing tournament after tournament that he could have won. I don't know how he does it. I don't know how he does it. How does he keep his sanity? And then when they pan to him, too, with the social distancing and he's standing, he literally looks like he's on a sad island by himself, just on the side of the green. And I'm just, He's like, man, and he has to listen and watch the whole thing. It's also not a lack of wanting it. Like, I don't get the vibe from 20 feet now that he is, he's happy taking these second

place checks and just, you know, being a millionaire, living life as a professional golfer. I don't get that vibe. I get that vibe that he wants it. Like, he seems devastated after these losses. So, so that's another part of it where he clearly wants to win so badly. And the breaks, they just don't go his way. I would love to know. I didn't see anybody asking the question about his approach shot on 18.

I would love to know what happened there. Why? He's not really collapsing either. He's not really collapsing. He's not really collapsing. He shot at 64 yesterday. So you can't really be like, be better. But he finds himself in situations where when the TV turns off and you're on to your next thing on Sunday,

the last thing you thought about is him missing a put in a playoff and not advancing it or not taking advantage of when, Max Homo was under a tree and he like, you know what I mean? Like, that's all you're thinking about. Even though he shot the 64, even though he came from behind to tie, to get to up to Sam Burns and Max Homa and all these guys, he just couldn't get it done at the end. And it just sucks that that's the feeling. That's the taste in your mouth. That's the sour taste that I walk away from Sunday thinking that Tony Fino had all these chances in the last three times that he played a golf hole in that tournament. It didn't get it done. It's true. And it sucks. And everyone's thinking it. It reminds me, Trent back in 2017.

Remember when Charlie Hoffman was finished in second a bunch? Oh, yeah. I think it was at Meerfield, maybe. But he had the lie where his cat, he was trying to talk him into laying up on a part five. And he was like, there's like three holes to left. Left. I'm down by a couple shots.

I'm tired of finish in second. He took the longer club and went for it. And everyone was like, ooh, I mean, he ended up finishing second, I think. But that it reminds me, it's like the same sort of these guys, there's no way it's not on their mind. Of course it's on their mind. It only makes it harder. And I don't think he has, like Rory's been accused at times of being like, you know, he's a little carefree.

It's like if he had a little more killer instinct. Like, yeah, Tony's a nice guy, but he doesn't strike me either as a guy that's not, that doesn't have the fire. Like, I think he has the fire. And I think he has played pretty damn well at a lot of these times. And someone else has just played better. And the 64 yesterday, like, it almost felt like now he's kind of lost every way that you can lose. Like yesterday he did the thing where people like, oh, I actually really like Tony's chances now because he could come

way behind and steal the tournament. Well, he tried that with a 64 and that's not fucking working either. So I don't know what else he could do. You do got to hope it's a darkest before the dawn situation where he's got so much scar tissue from losing in like you're saying, every single way possible that hopefully he can take that and apply it to the next tournament and he learns from it and then he gets a win. But it does seem like he is like a masochist and almost.

losing in every single way possible before he gets that win. Agreed. Look, I think he's going to get it done soon, but he really needs to get it done soon because you don't know how long this is going to last in this winter. Or Colby. Our guy Colby just goes to the ringer every single Sunday. He becomes the Tony Feeneau tracker on the weekends. And yesterday was about as close as you can get. Colby was jacked up and it still just didn't look out. He now hasn't won a golf tournament since we started. the podcast. That's right. Colby's been putting action on Tony Fee now every single golf tournament.

Colby's been like there behind the scenes editing us and listening to us talk about how he's getting fucked by Tony Fienow not winning tournaments since we started the podcast. Right. It's four years ago. Right. Literally four years ago. You just can't. Before we move on from Homa and Finaw because I feel like we're shifting that way, the CB, the broadcasts need to figure out a way, and I don't have an answer to this, but they need to figure out a way to talk about Max Homa being good at Twitter in a way that doesn't make them sound 200 years old. Because whenever they bring it up, they talk about, oh, here's Max Homa, he's a great golfer, he's from this area, he loves Riviera, and he's good at the interwebs.

Like they don't quite know how to talk about it in a way that doesn't make them sound ancient. And I don't have an answer. But at any time Terry Gannon or Nick Fowellto bring up how good Max Homa is at Twitter, it just, really sounds like they're fossils. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like a couple fucking dorks trying to describe out somebody else as the cool kid in class. Like that, it's just they're not,

I don't know, and I don't even know that you need to describe it. Like, trying to describe it makes it less cool. Right? Like, especially from them. I get the impulse to talk about it because it is part of Max Homer's story, but they don't talk about it in the right way.

No. It may have to turn down the volume on your TV. They had a bunch of weird graphics. Like at one point it was like Max Homa bio, Dodgers fan, like had his handle. And then it was like got a call from Tommy Lasota last year after he won. It was just like that's his bio. They were trying to be like, oh, like he's just a kid.

He's a kid that gets popcorn at the games and likes to watch the ball games and put on his ball cap. they would benefit greatly if they could just say when talking about Max Homa on Twitter that he loves to bust balls on Twitter. If they could say that and then that was it, that'd be perfect. But they sort of have to work around him talking shit to people and roasting their swings. But it's in a lighthearted way. So it's hard to describe that without just being like, yeah, he likes to shoot the shit and bust balls on Twitter. Yeah. They need to keep it simpler.

But it does sound awful every time they do it. Awful. Hard to listen to. Something that does not sound awful actually sounds great because I got 10 sound engineers. I'm talking about the Sim2 family, folks from Taylor made the brand new, brand new Sim2 family. You see them talk about them. You've seen us get fitted.

Went out to the kingdom, got fitted. They're cheat codes. Their weapons. The Sim2 driver, three wood, five wood. What did you say, Frank? It's my baby girl. This is your, well, Frank, this has been his face gets like, I've never, I've never seen him like this. Honey, why? I've never seen you like this before.

You're smitten. Yeah, he is. I'm nervous. He's smitten. I'm nervous. Yeah, we're spilling the tea right now. But, you know, I went on a date and she put out, fellas. She put out.

No, no, and I guarantee you saw it because it went crazy on Twitter to, you know. It was just like Frankie went on a date. He went out to dinner. It looked like at Ferrelli's had a nice slice of. pizza, a little bit of wine. Then you guys saw a movie. What movie do you guys see? We saw Wonder Woman. Okay. That's a good one. And then it looks like you got lucky, which I'm happy for you. Yeah, I did. No, it's probably the most ridiculous thing I've ever put out on social media. And I messaged you a couple times, seeing if I should do that

because I didn't know if it crossed lines. I didn't know how Taylor May was going to feel about me taking their new driver on a date and bringing them home and putting them in bed sheets. But I think it was well received on all accounts. Yeah, I just wanted to show my love for this club. I've never had a golf club that I felt this way about. And I'm not even being, I'm still not even trying to do that whole pun and joke thing. I genuinely am so happy that we are partnered with Taylor Made as opposed to any other company. Like I see these commercials with the other ones and like just the names of the other ones.

they're just stupid. It's like a bunch of guys sitting around a boardroom being like, what's a cool word that kids on the interwebs use? And they're like, well, when they play call of duties, they say that was an epic kill or something like that. It's like, oh, sick. Like they do their BMX tricks like the Tony Hawks of the world and it's epics and stuff. So, no, I'm a really big fan of Taylor Made and I love the look of it.

I'm very proud to be able to show it off. I think it's a, it's a, it's a, you feel proud about the product that you're holding. And we saw the way that they build it. We saw the engineers. We saw everything. And whenever I get into an argument or debate with someone about clubs and if Taylor Maids the best or not, I say, Tiger Woods, see the best golfer of all time. What driver does he use? And then I hang up the phone. Yeah. And it's like you watch on Sunday, Dustin Johnson's using it. Rory's using it. Like they don't have to think of cool names for their clubs. They just know that the best players in the world are like, yeah, I like that club. That's the

one I want to use, and that's all the marketing they need. Find something about Tiger Woods. Read one article and let me know if he's the best person to ever hold a golf club and know. I mean, in the book, Tiger Woods, where he has his face on the front, he talks about how he can tell the difference between the grams of chefs within, you're talking one gram here and there. This guy knows equipment more than anyone in the world, and he just happened to choose Taylor made to be his equipment sponsor for the fucking drivers and all these clubs.

Are you kidding me? In what world do you think that you, Joe Schmoe sitting on the fucking couch, are going to make a different decision or better decision when it comes to clubs than Tiger fucking Woods? Grow up. Grow up. Look yourself in the mirror and say, you know what? You're right.

I should probably listen to Tiger Woods. He had the choice to pick any fucking company in a world. Money is no option to him. It does not matter. He wants the best equipment. He wants the best firing arms. And that's what he picked. Case closed.

We don't even do the ad rates. Case closed. That's a really good point. I don't know how you would refute that. Dustin Johnson is currently the number one right player in the world. Masters champion uses Taylor Made. So go get Taylor May. Get the Sim2 family.

They're in stores and they're available for shipping right now. Sim2 is a cheat code. It's a weapon. You need it in your bag. We'll continue on our Tiger Woods chatter. He made an appearance. It is, of course, the Genesis invitational. It benefits the Tiger Woods Foundation, TGR,

the work they've been doing for 20, 25 years, millions and millions and millions of dollars raised to help educate. in advance opportunities for children. It's a great cause. Tiger Woods couldn't play this year because he had a back surgery in December. I believe it was right before Christmas just after the PNC when he played with the son Charlie.

We haven't seen him since. You know, he released a couple statements. That was pretty much it. He appeared on the broadcast in a one-on-one sort of headset, distanced interview with Jim Nance. And it was weird. the whole fucking thing start to finish it was weird it was um tiger gave nothing he said nothing and jim nance was trying so hard to get something out of him jim nance likes to make

people cry as best as he can he couldn't get tiger to announce if he's tied his fucking shoes or not like he couldn't get anything out of tiger woods he's asking him about the masters tiger says well see he's asked me going to play a tournament before the masters tiger says we don't know the plan yet it was it was tough to watch and all of that while not looking particularly spry, I would say. So the whole thing was just not the best appearance for the first time seeing Tiger Woods in two or three months that I would have hoped for. Yeah, he looked. I'll say he looked tired at best. He looked tired.

He did not seem that engaged with the conversation. Jim Nance was pressing him a little bit on what his future looks like coming up in the next couple months. Tiger gave nothing. I know people were making like edibles jokes. He looked like a little stone from like California edibles. Who knows what was going on. But if I had to put a percentage on it, if we're talking about whether or not we're going to see Tiger Woods

at Augustine National or not in the next couple of months, I'd put it at 30%. He didn't know. He hadn't talked to the media in a while since his release about the fifth back surgery. So we're thinking, all right, maybe he'll mix in one event, but he's surely going to be at the Masters trying to get another.

green jacket. After yesterday, I would be, I would be surprised if he plays. I mean, it makes me, it makes me feel bad. It makes me feel like shit because I want him to play, but he just does not seem healthy or energetic or like, it seemed to me that he was down in the dumps about where he is currently. And when he's going to play next is very much up in the end. I mean, if you ask me, who gave a better like on set Sunday at the, at the golf tournament appearance, him or Clint Eastwood? I don't know. It's close. It's not. It's not. It's like they were, they're in the same fucking boat with their appearances. It was, I thought he was going to start staring out looking for the Pacific Ocean at one point.

It was, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it we were watching. It looked as though, and this is all, I mean, people are speculating, but it looked like he was high as a fucking kite. I mean, I wanted Jim Nance to do the whole thing from Pineapple Express being like, you're high as a fucking kite right now, aren't you? But I mean, that's obviously, he could have been doing the three cheese, the edibles, whatever.

Who knows what was happening, but he was just loopy. Lucy Goosey staring through. At one point, at one point, he was looking down and he was like smirking to himself and his eyes were really big and puffy. And he looked up because I guess they were watching a screen of the golf and they cut back to him and he's looking down. And Jim Nance was now Tiger and Tiger goes, yeah. And he said, yeah, like, as if it was like a reminder like, hey man, like you're in a

conversation right now. And essentially Jim Nance is having a normal broadcast conversation. where he's like, where he's like, all right, now, Tiger, what do you think? And Tiger said, yeah, right after you heard the word Tiger, yeah. And look up, go back and watch the broadcast and tell me that that's not the weirdest thing he's ever done his career. Listen, I've been gone off the three-chee. I'm no stranger to that. So sometimes you just get into a thought and you just start chasing it.

And you're thinking about Jupiter and you're starting to think about like, what's really out there? And what's it expanding into? And then you forget that you're also on the couch with somebody. And they're like, what do you want to watch? You're like, yeah, okay. All right, what do we do? It was just, it was like, and I'm pretty sure the interview was much shorter than they had anticipated. Like, I thought they were going to have them on for a while sort of talking about golfers going down the stretch.

But it was maybe like an eight to nine minute interview. And it was just one of the strangest things I've ever seen on my television. Yeah, he's just, he brings the juice, man, no matter what, whether it's awkward, whether it's bad, whether it's good. Tiger Woods is must watch content. he doesn't give these boring ass you just you show up you watch him you leave like all these other greats if you bring in anyone from baseball and they come in during the the intermission they talk with the broadcast it's like whatever but tiger woods the way he looked on that screen you never know what you're going to get it's fucking russian roulette with this guy one day he could look like the

most powerful incredible golfer of all time the next day could look like he's never going to play golf again and that's why you always he keeps you on your toes and that's why we are such, we are in the tiger faithful and we will, we will go with him until the end of time because you never know what he's going to do. And that's a fun road to be on. I will, I will say when, when he was giving Max the trophy and when they were taking the pictures afterwards, he looked like normal tiger. Yeah. I was expecting to see him be like the same way. Because like you said, Frankie, even during the interview, he was hunched over. Like he had his elbows on his knees. I don't know if he was leaning down to look at a TV or whatever. But when he was given the trophy and

taking a picture with Max, he looked completely. fun. Yeah, I was worried, too, that we were just going to get reports that he was, like, carried off on a stretcher onto his plane, and then Tiger was just gone as quickly as he arrived. So to see him standing, taking, and he did interviews, I think, with a few other outlets, it looked like that. I don't know if those have gone out yet, but those were good signs. And you could tell, like, when they brought him on the broadcast, they were anticipating he was going to do the, like, oh, yeah, Max Homa has about a seven iron here on 14. I think he's going to try to play, you know, some sort of cut shot.

This green actually does it. And he just, like, were you going to be at Augusta? Not sure yet. Got to talk to the surgeon. Like, all right. Okay. That was all you were getting out of him. So it was tough for Nance. I actually felt bad for Nance in the moment because he was, he's like, we're alive, dude. Like, you need, we need something out of you. And he just wasn't going to give him anything.

When the question is posed, the Tiger Woods, it doesn't matter who it's from, Jim Nance or anybody. When they ask him the question, do you think you're going to be. playing in the Masters this year. The answer I don't want to hear, but the answer that I got yesterday was, God, I hope so. That's just not what you're looking for. So, I mean, the Masters is coming up real quick.

We're talking a month and a half, and our guy does not seem ready. He also, when he said he lengthened his putter, like, what is he just going to be pro anchoring now next thing, you know? Like, what do you mean Tiger Woods is lengthening his putter? That thing, that elder wand hasn't changed in decades. the point where that little black circle on the back of it, that thing's withered away. And we're not changing anything about it.

We're not coming up with a new black circle. We're not doing anything. That thing is just what it's meant to be. And now you're telling me Tiger Woods, Tiger fucking Woods lengthening his putter so that he can, what, stand up straight like Tim Clark out there putting? Like, what are we doing here? Dude, speaking of the Elder One, I did a whole rewatch of Harry Potter recently. And it got me thinking, it got me thinking. We talk about these haw cruxes, right?

and for anyone that doesn't know about the Harry Potter universe, and here's a spoiler, the fucking movie's been out for 20 years. The books have been out. But Voldemort, we may not speak his name, but I do because I'm a fucking hero, and I'm not scared of him. Voldemort split some courageous person all of a sudden?

Yes, yes. I also don't believe you. Voldemort, Voldemort, Tom Riddle, split his soul into many pieces using very, very dark magic so that he could not, he could be immortal. right like you can put it into a fucking you can put into a locket you can put it into a tiara and you can hide these things so when someone tries to kill you your soul still lives within that piece of whatever

and harry potter has to go find them and kill him because to kill Voldem or you have to kill the hogcrack we've said this about tiger woods that you know the putter the scotty is a hawkrux um we've gone through the whole thing maybe frank the um his um putter his head cover his tiger head cover is one um robin mac maybe roby mac is definitely one the snake and um harry poter Now, the thing that I was thinking about, though, is, you know, to kill Voldemort, Harry Potter had to die because a part of him, a part of Voldemort was in Harry Potter. Now, do we think, and also when you kill someone, your soul splits even more, so you're able to do. So Tigers killed many people in his life on the golf course, right? Like, he's just DeMarco and all, you know, there's these people throughout his career, Phil Mickelson.

Like, there are people throughout his career that he's buried. their soul. Do we have to kill one of those people to like release to like release that from them? You know what I mean? Like is there something we're missing here? Like or or is Tiger going to be alive forever unless they kill him? You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to think of it because he is. He does have Hawk Crocs. Tiger has these things in his life that are a constant. He waves them around through his fingers like his putter. It's just right in your face but it's also secretive. and I'm trying to think like there's got to be this extra layer and who would be that person like who is tiger at who's tiger who is tiger's Harry to Baltimore who has he killed and part of his soul lives within him well what I would say is he's killed so many people that I would be more searching for the person that tiger hasn't killed that he's sparred with who he still needs to kill like is any Right, like his

Francesco Bolinari, he killed. Right. But you could argue beforehand when Molinari took him down at Karnusti that like he had become a bit of a horrooks and Tiger needed to murder him, which he did at Augusta National, which is basically the whole.

So like, but is there anybody else out there that Tiger has yet? Okay, but in this movie, in our movie, Voldemort wins. Tiger Woods lives forever. So there is a. person out there that is like scheming like we got to get to scotty we got to get to robbie we got to frank we got to and they're thinking like who's that last person we need to kill that person first Voldemort needs to live in this scenario because he needs to live forever like tiger is the villain

on tour he's the guy that everyone wants to he's just fucking walker and i'm out of cut out of cut he's killing everyone fucking majors out the asshole who's the only guy that's slipping away could argue it's like the national inquire and that we had to like eliminate them to protect tiger. I don't know that it's necessarily a golfer. I don't think a simple human golfer has and possesses the power to take down Tiger Woods. I think it might be a greater scheme than that. We're going to get a tweet.

And, you know, I wanted it to be like Jack. We just have to kill Jack and Tiger wins forever. But it's not because like they never really had that. But there's, we're going to get tweets about there's like, there's one guy that's like beaten Tiger that he never got his revenge and like you know it's just he's sitting there in his fucking whatever his house he maybe he doesn't even play on tour anymore and he's just got that one victory over tiger that tiger never ever had a chance i mean Trevor embleman no like is it uh maybe it's y yang is it y yang is like fuck he did like that also you could argue who's had the best career

against Tiger Woods without him seeking his The best career would probably be some weird name where the stats add up differently than you would guess but Y. Yang that motherfucker like that was late 2009. Yiyang defeats Tiger for the first time coming from behind in a major and then look what happened to Mr. Woods over the next decade? It's Y. Yang and where the fuck is Y. E. Yang right now.

What's the last time you've heard about Y. Yang. It was 2009. Holy shit, dude. It's definitely my E. Yang. Was that the last major time? That was prior to everything happening?

A couple months before Thanksgiving that we don't talk about. So that must have been, that was August 2009. And, you know, three months later, a series of events began. Or you could

argue followed what happened when Yai Yang stole a piece of Mr. Woods's soul. I don't know. Y. Y. Y. Y. Y. Y.

Y. Y. Y. Ritiers retires and Tiger comes back and wins the masters again this year. I'm telling you there's something to it. Now, people may think, ah, this is all fucking bullshit. Nothing about this guy is bullshit. It's all extraterrestrial.

It's all magical. It's all wizardry. And until we figure this out, like, I'm telling you why E. Yang may, I'm on, you guys are on to something. I'm on this. I'll send Detective Glennie Balls out there to find fucking Yiyang, and we will figure this shit out. Yiyang is 49 years old.

He's, of course, from South Korea. I don't know where he has last emerged in terms of professional golf. I was honestly going to guess that Yiyang was on the champions tour, maybe averaging T-17th and taken home like 70K a year or a week, but I don't know. He's only 49, so he can't be on the senior tour. He just came. He annihilated Tiger Wood.

He raised his fucking golf bag over his head like a power lifter on the 18th Green at Hazelt team. And then he just was gone. A bunch of bullshit. Oh, man, we almost have to put that to the clip of him doing it, man. I mean, it's just so. So I'm on Yiy Yang's Wikipedia right now. And the last line in his professional career area is after a poor 2016 European tour season where he finished outside 110, Yang regained his tour card through Q school.

But that's just where it stops. Let this guy get away with this. No, he can't. We need him to make a tournament. Like he needs to be in some sort of match play or something that Tiger. Tiger needs to defeat Y. E. Yang needs his revenge over him. And then all of these bad spirits, dude, this is, this has been happening since 2009. Everything bad has happened to Tiger lives within Y.E. Yang. He needs to defeat him.

That's the guy. And Tiger, somehow this has to get back to Tiger. Someone on his team, in the next match, they should do like a fucking, they should have Tiger versus Y. Yang. and he should just fucking beat him. And on 18, you may see this thing, like release from YEA. And Tiger's just fucking back. You just made it take a very funny scenario where we finally get time with Tiger Woods, right? They're like, all right, you get an hour to interview Tiger Woods. And they're like, what are you going to ask him about?

What's your interview? What are the questions going to be like? This is a big moment for you guys. And we just spend 55 minutes explaining horror problems. and Yie Yang to the point where he's like, what the fuck is going on in this room right now? We really found something here, though. I'm sorry, we really did.

The 2009 stuff, like, Riggs finding that out right there. That's big. Or we just like, we bring Yiyang out and he's in like handcuffs with like a sock in his mouth. And we're like, all right, Tiger. Do what you please. You got to, we just have to do this, man. We're trying to get over the situation here. to something though we're on to something.

Oh, you know, it was something I was thinking about and the fact that we actually came up with a perfect name that like completely makes sense for a guy that's never done anything on tour since he defeated Tiger Woods. Like everything about that scenario is so in line with what a Voldemort like surviving storyline would be in Harry Potter is unbelievable. I mean, the guy didn't win a major for 10 years after that. That's amazing. He had won 14 in the previous, what?

Eight years? I'd love to know why he Yang was doing the day Tiger won the Masters. Like maybe he was like sick or something. Hmm. We're going to get into it. I would like to interview Yiyang. I don't know if there's going to be a language barrier or anything, but I would love, love to interview that guy and see what his life has been since he's defeated Tiger Woods.

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So he was in contention in. I wouldn't say this is like a let-down week for someone that has been, playing well that had really good chances to win back-to-back weeks. He didn't come out and like missed the cut and it wasn't some clear fluke. At a difficult golf course, Jordan Speeth again had a chance and finished his tied for 15. He'd take home like 150K for doing that now that it's about money. But a decent week for Spieth, I wouldn't say it's any reason for concern.

Curious if you guys think any differently. No reason for concern over here. I think that he's still on that track where he's playing good golf. I think people are starting to think that I'm. like an anti-speeth guy because of all the talk that we've been doing recently about him, but it's more that I just want. I think that he's in that Fee now world where like at some point, you just got to get it done. I mean, he even more so, like needs to be a winner on this tour. He is a big name. He's a big moneymaker. He's a huge sponsor for Under Armour, this whole thing.

Got to get it done. And the more opportunities that come around that he just doesn't get it done, the more that I'm just going to say, like, man, time slipping by with this guy, even though he's super young. even though all his success was when he was outrageously young, how many more years are going to go by before this guy fucking wins. So I'm going to be on him for that. Like that's what his name carries that weight where you're like, you're going to be on him for not winning. Sorry, like you're one of the greats on tour.

Like you have to fucking win. You're going to have people that say you have to do it. We have expectations for Jordan Speed. I'm sorry that like his fan base thinks that's okay that he just doesn't win anymore. And he just like is not Jordan Speeth anymore. I want to see Jordan Speed throwing fucking wedges out of bunkers. and jumping with Greller and doing the whole, you know what I mean? Like, I want the old Jordan Speed back.

I'm actually more of a fan than Jordan Speed Legion. Like, I want him to be Jordan's feet. I'm not okay with incompetence and not fucking reaching the level that he has to reach. I think it's less pressing than that. And I understand the need or the want for him to be the old Jordan Speeth for him to win again. But it feels like we're dealing with a wounded animal almost, where you're just going to nurse this baby bird back to health, where it's not going to happen all at once,

but we're on the right track. We've got the wing, you know, stitched up. We're nursing it back to health. I don't think it needs to fly right now. I'm really taking this wounded animal metaphor to the limit. But I do think it is similar to that. Like, yeah, it would have been great for him to win in Phoenix or it would have been great for him to win at Pebble

or would have been great for him to win at Riviera. But just to have him back in the mix and that we're even talking about speed finishing in the top five, the top 15, the top 20, like that's a good place to be. I think he'll get it done at some point over the next calendar year. I don't know if it's going to happen in the next month or two, but I do think it'll happen within the calendar year. So it's a bit of a slower burn,

but I do understand wanting Jordan Speath to be back to the old Jordan Speeth where he just wins tournaments all the time. I just don't think it's going to happen that quickly. Also, he's 27. So nurse's little chicken wing back to health. If he were, again, someone in his 40s who had been rudely, you know, knocking off his pedestal by someone like Wyatt Yang, it might be a bit more pressing. But when he is 27, you do think that maybe the scar tissue isn't quite as deep.

Maybe he's got another 20 years out there and that it's not quite as pressing. But boy, were those two chances he had really good ones? Like really good ones. And for him not to get those done is, I mean, if we were going to do the whole thing we did about Tony Fienow about how like you just don't know how many chances, it is different with Speed where he's won a bunch. He's got his three major championships. He's got a double digit wins on the PGA tour. But, you know, no, I don't think it's pressing. But also if he gets a couple more of those and doesn't get it done, then he turns into a monkey on the back situation like Tony Fidow's dealing with and it only gets harder and harder.

just sucks and I'm sure this adds to the pressure and his mental stability and stuff but when he's winning three majors double digit on tour you want him to be the next tiger woods you like I want to grow up with a new guy come on somebody somebody just keep rattling off wins I want a dominating figure on tour I don't like I love the parody for what it for what the theater and the drama brings but I also want I want to suck the dick of whoever's like winning 10 11 12 majors I want that again you know what I mean like I love that I don't want that I don't want someone necessarily to be like better than tiger woods forever but jordan spieth was on that track to be like a next level winning every year guy it just sucks you want him you want to you want to bottle that up and bring it back you you never want it to go i mean we're just in that stretch where he's just like he fell off it is tough it's the same thing with the rory like we had 2014 rory where it just looked like it's him now he is taking that baton and he's going to sprint with it hasn't won a major since. And then we had 2015 speed where he emerged is like, this is the next guy. And then he fell off. He obviously went on the major in 2017.

It's just, it's tough. It really just proves how tough it is and how impressive Tiger's run of dominance was that we've got these uber talented guys like Rory and speed. And then you had Brooks had his run there for a while, where it's just not sustainable. It's just so hard to be that consistently good on the PGA tour where these guys are going to, it's going to ebb and it's going to flow and they're going to have great years and they're going to have down years. We had three years where he was just gone and we didn't even really think about him. So that's a little different.

I just think it's so hard no matter how talented you are to sustain that type of greatness at the game of golf in general. Golf is so fucking hard. And there's so many guys. Yeah. How many guys were there even? yesterday and yesterday's leaderboard looking at the names. That's without Justin Thomas or Rory Macroy playing well last week or Tiger Woods even

being in the game where Jordan Speeth wasn't didn't finish inside the, you know, he finished tied for 15. It's like there are so many guys that are awesome at golf that if any one of them wins, I mean, Max was like 90 something I feel like in the world going into yesterday and just wins. And when he won, it was like, oh yeah, of course he won. Like, look how good he is. He played great. Like he couldn't miss a shot.

did make a bogey for the last 26 holes he played. So, so the fact that there's that many other guys, that there's Tommy Fleetwoods, that there's the Matt Wolfe, that there's the Cowlmore Cowls that, like, weren't even in a conversation this weekend, I feel like. And now Jordan Speath, who's falling off a cliff by all, like, you know, relative measures. He's supposed to just go out there and beat all of those guys. How is he going to do that?

It's so hard. It was really evident at Pebble win. No top 10 players in the world in the tournament, right? So you're thinking, oh, this is an opportunity for Spief to get that win after playing so well in Phoenix. But then the second tier, the next tier just steps up, Cantley, Homa, burger. Like, you're right, Riggs. There's so many guys now that it's just really, really hard to have one guy take it and just run with it and win a bunch of tournaments, not even in a row, just like at a high clip.

So it's harder now than ever. So for Spief, I'm just, it's nice to see him back in contention. and I'm rooting for him to get a couple wins or just one win in the near future, but there's just so many guys that it's tough. Dude, Daniel Berger, Patrick Cantlay, Webb Simpson, Bryson, like Patrick Reed, Victor Hovlin, Daniel Berger again, reading his name again, but like he just fucking won. Paul Casey and how good he's played, like Tommy Fleetwood, Adam Scott one, like there's just so many players that can win and even give any given week that, like Tony Fienow,

And George Speed, though, they can't, like, get over the hurdle and win. Like, look how hard it is. How could you even fathom going out there? And to what Frankie, like, first started the conversation talking about is, like, Fiena now needed, like, Max to miss a three-foot putt, and he got that. And he needed a shoot at 64, and he got that. And he needed Max to get a sheet break under a tree. And he got that.

And, like, he still couldn't win the tournament. It's just so difficult to win. And you wonder, like, how could somebody even win? Like, how could somebody even win? Like, how could somebody go on a dominant tournament? streak and just win more than other people. It's impossible. Dude, the further, the further we get away from that 2019 Masters, the more impressive it gets. Just that tiger was that old and that the field was that deep. And if you go about, look at

that leaderboard, it was crazy. And I'm not saying that tiger is done. I'm not saying that it's over. I'm just saying that for him at that age against this new crop of guys, that 2019 masters, hopefully it was just the beginning of this, you know, second. half of winning these majors, but that 2019 Masters win is fucking impressive. And what happened for him to, what happened to allow him to win that day was insane too, right? Guys falling off the edge of the cliff, fucking Molinario, all these guys choking at the end, making way for a Tiger Woods who was back to start the day to win the fucking Masters. Yeah, it's amazing what has to go into it.

And similar, I mean, Tony had those types of breaks and you just, you stayed them. And the more we keep talking about it, the more it feels like Tony choked at the end. man like just just win a hole like play better for one hole that max was fucking flying off the handle he missed a fucking pot on 18 he hit it under a tree it's just like win the hole Tony like what are you doing but yeah um no it's tough yeah on on all accounts with with speedy and tony and all this stuff i understand it's super hard we've gone through it like when we're picking winners on tour before the season started like we're like saying who do you think is going to win a tournament's like it's actually really difficult to win a tournament like the odds are they don't

each guy. Odds are each guy on tour does not win a tournament that year. Like the odds are in the favor that they do not. So when you put it that way, it is really, really hard to be like, why didn't you win the last four years? Like, well, the odds are I probably shouldn't have. There's so many fucking players in each tournament. Why would, why are the odds say that I'm going to fucking win today? You know what I mean? So, yeah, I see both ways. I just want them to win. It's more I want them to. I want Jordan speak to be back. Damn. I couldn't agree more. Same. It's just better. And like if you wins, he's going to have confidence, then he's going to, you know, it's a domino.

It works out where he's then, like, in the mix and majors more, and he's in rider cups, and it's all just better. So that's the main reason we're rooting. A little piece of news this morning is the USDA and RNA announced proposed changes to their amateur rules that would, I believe, by late March, they would sort of officialize them. And then by January 1st, 2022 is when they would go in. into effect. It basically makes being an amateur, you may benefit off of your endorsements, your likeness, your image. And there's now only three ways that you would actually lose your amateur status. One of them is accepting a prize in excess of the prize limit, which is $750.50.

That's not really any change. Accepting payment for giving instruction, which none of us have to worry about and accepting employment as a golf club professional membership of an association of professional golfers, which again, none of us have to worry about. All the tweets that I'm seeing are like, oh, does this mean that the Whitney match is on? Well, the Whitney match, no, because this doesn't change anything. Like, we were, we were going to play for more than 750 bucks and, and Whitney couldn't and still play in the USG four ball. And that was the reason that he chose not to play in the match. So I don't know that that'll change anything. But who knows? So, okay, yeah. Even if it was a sponsor, it's still limited to 750 bucks?

You can't, I believe you can't accept like a cash or prize worth more than $750. Now, it does say that informal gambling is allowed. So if it's like it, so I don't know. We'll have to, we'll have to reach out and see. But also it's like, A, people have to understand, A, like, we're, I don't know that I trust Whitney because we had the whole thing set up. And then we had the whole incident on radio with our good, close personal friends

of the United States Golf Association where we were misled as to what happened. And that it came off like Whitney, like the USDA had largely just reached out to Whitney to be like, no, you can't do this match. When in reality it was the other way around where Whitney had like his swing coach or whoever check with the USDA to see.

if they would allow it. And they were like, well, now that you've checked with us, like, no, you actually can't do this thing. Um, that put us down a whole spiral of going off on the USGA. I think we called them nerds on the radio and said, why would they butt their heads in something? They don't have any business in when in reality that wasn't what happened at all. Um, so that whole incident. And then also like we've, I've reached out to Whitney about playing a few times and different things and he just hasn't responded, which I don't blame him. He doesn't need, I don't think he needs us or needs to really respond. Um, but in terms of people that constantly tweet or Instagram at me about like why won't you play this peasant i've asked them to play a bunch of times

either myself or for play we'd love to have a match with those guys um i love the chicklets guys i mean we're we're not a hockey podcast but we love it um so we would love to do something but in terms of the current state and if the amateur status affects things um i don't really know and we can't really know unless i guess we have a conversation with the chicklets guy yeah it's a it seems like a confusing situation which obviously seems to happen in bored of rooms or whatever. This is not something that's going to happen over text messages. It says like if he really wants to keep his amateur status, like people need to get brought in and like talk about what can be done with the match and stuff. So yeah, I see that part. I love Ryan Whitney. I own his merchandise.

I bought his Quebec League invitation on whatever the fuck that shirt is, the South Shore King shirt. I think he's one of the funniest dudes on the planet. I love biz. Biz actually had mentioned that they want to do like a kind of a home-in-home or we do a sandbag or they do four-man scramble. It would be super fun. I think we'll get that done at some point. I think Whitney, I think Whitney and Riggs do have a little bit of like a rivalry riff going on and I think that's good for whatever future matches come out. Like, I mean, you guys went at it on, on, on radio about this thing. And that just adds to the drama and the theatrics. I love that shit. I think it's going to be super intense the day we ever step up to the first tee, like real intense between you two. And then it's just like me and Biz and

Trent and like just like behind you guys being like, all right, I love. let these two guys fucking kill each other. Yeah. It's gonna be a lot of fun. And I actually think it has to happen now. The more we talk about it, like there's just no way we can let this go to the wayside. Like,

just has to happen. Like Whitney either has to like just nut up and just figure it out or like something has like we just need to play golf. Yeah, I think that from a golf perspective with me and wit, there's like genuine beef where it's like we. Like genuine beef. Like neither one of us like both of us would be fucking devastated to lose on

camera to the other one. Correct. So, right. So that exists. Having said that, like, I'm with Frankie. Like, I love it. I think they're fucking hilarious. And like, as a hockey guy, like, how could you not be into what the chicklets guys are doing? They're awesome. I've like, referenced some of their interviews with fucking Crosby and when McKinnon. But at the end of the day, like Whitney and I, when it comes to golf, have a rooted history in not liking each other. So, yeah, I would love to play against them. But I can't, if we reach out to them and I'm going to ask and

and he just doesn't respond. There's nothing else I could do. Right. True. Yeah. No, it's, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, this has to, this has to happen. All my mentions, I have to be put out. I mentioned are 100% Whitney versus Riggs right now with the amateur announcement. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is, this has to happen. This has to happen. Before we, I don't know, I don't know where we're headed next, but I did want to say, uh, Joaquin Neiman. got himself in the situation that we talked about all last week on six at Riviera. The pin was on the right. He ended up on the left.

And he did end up chipping it. He actually ended up off the green. It did not work out well for him. And he's a pro, so it's a little different than me doing it or lurched to it. He nipped it clean, though. What? He nipped it real clean.

It ended up going out the front of the green. But that's what I was rooting all weekend for someone to get in that scenario. And a couple of guys got close, but it would roll back and feed to the point where they had it. actual angle at it. But Joaquin Neiman, he fucked himself and he had to chip and it didn't work out, but you guys do do it. I miss that. I'm rattled. I miss that. I want to see it. I'll see if I can find the clip and I'll send it to you. Okay, I want to see it. Arsenal Sportsbook two weeks in a row now has put out a booster of a parlay prop bet. Well, first week wasn't a parley, but this week

it was Max Homa and Jordan Speath to finish, what, top 30 at Riviera, both of them? It was plus 400. Yeah, boosted to plus 400. We're now 2 in the last two weeks with Jordan Spee's bets. That is something to keep an eye out for because, I mean, if you got in at plus 350 last week, plus 400 this week on the Barcel Sportsbook, that is, I mean, you are cashing in some good cash right there if you're in Michigan or Pennsylvania. so keep an eye out for the barcel sports book prop bets because they are on fire right now i mean we were joking like oh max homin he's the finished top 30 he won the fucking tournament like you were tweeting at him like oh we've added some more pressure on you by putting this prop bet he he relied

to you like oh you fucking that's so he said this is like next level evil genius like bravo and then yeah one i mean he won the tournament i won the fucking people people are responding too like wish I could take the other side of this bet, huh? And like, Max Homo won the golf tournament. What do you? And Spice finished what? Like 14th? Yeah, I think he was tied 15th.

So it's like it wasn't even fucking close. Like, we were, we weren't that far off from Speeth and Homa going to a playoff. Like it was they just that he won the tournament. So that was, those are the two easiest bets. And then week before, I think it was just speed to finish top 10 was plus 350 or plus 325. And the guy almost won the golf tournament. So it's just been too easy plus 350 and plus 400 back to back weeks.

People got to be swimming in money out of the show. Swimming, yeah. And I need to be locked on the next one because it's just really good value. And obviously, like, these things can happen at this point. Also, we've got Matt Wolf tonight on the 4Play YouTube channel. It's the One Club Challenge with Matt Wall. So get involved. go 8 p.m. Eastern.

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before we'd filmed it with him. So we kind of like told, like, I'm sorry, Matthew, not Matthew Wolfe. Tommy Fleetwood. We had done it with Tommy Fleetwood. And basically we're talking to Matthew like, oh, what are you going to use now? I think at one point he wanted to use like a five iron or a seven iron. We're like, well, no, like you need to do a little something

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dude, I'm sitting down right now. And what you said about how my parents are disappointed in the job I took, he's like, I just had, this one dude, Alex was like, I just had a legitimate, like, screaming match with my parents, like two days ago right before this podcast. He's like, I listen to this fucking thing. I called them up and apologized. Like, I'm like, Jesus.

He's like, man, like, you have no idea what that did to me. Because he's like, I'm listening to the podcast. I just heard like my story. And he's like, obviously I have to take advantage of like, all right, that means something. So I have to call my mom. And he did. Briggs and I are like, hey, do you like golf videos? Maybe you'll like this YouTube page.

Frankie's like, you're a failure at everything. You got to fucking catch these people. one way or another. You got to hit him where it hurts. And that's going to make people change. Hey, that's that's people need to learn from their mistakes. And Alex made a mistake. And he heard this podcast and he fucking, he righted his wrong. There you go. Same with Nate. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.