Fore Play - Congrats Frankie

Episode Date: October 28, 2021

Congratulations are in order for our very own Frankie Borrelli for getting engaged! We chat about Justin Thomas and Matthew Wolff congratulating Frankie on taking this monumental life step, the terminal velocity of golf balls in space, the absolute Fyre Fest going on in Bermuda, could the Fore Man Scramble win a U.S. Open in Championship conditions playing all four days, @UseGolfFacts is at it again, and tons more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For Play, I'm from my Barstable Sports. We are back, and it's a very big show. Our very own Frankie Grelley, had a huge week. One of the biggest weeks in the history of any of our lives. We often are kind of considered just 480s floating through the universe with no real purpose or direction or anything. and Frankie has taken the biggest adult step in the history of any of our lives,

and he got engaged. So congratulations to Frankie Burley, the pizza maker. Thank you. Congratulations, Frankie. Congratulations, Frankie. Awesome. Looks great. You made out of love you.

Pale men. Yes. Yeah, no, it was exciting. It was, you know, I'm definitely, like, young. I think I surprised a lot of people, but, like, I think I was super immature on the show. and like I'm probably an immature person, but this was like the most mature thing I think I finally done.

Like I was able to actually do like a real life thing, which was fun. But yeah, it's just exciting to start this new step. And, um, yeah, uh, I want to shout out actually because the whole day was unbelievable.

Was that like a prepared statement there? Was that one, that one came off? No, I'm just saying it's like exciting. Like even though, no matter like, like,

like you're living your life like a normal, like a normal couple, whatever you're doing. Then all of a sudden, like it just changes. Like the next day is just different. It's just different. And you're 28, right?

You're not that young. You're young. You're young. But, like, I mean, I guess where I'm from, people get engaged when they're 23 and they have kids by their 25. Like, it's already happening. I'm, like, I'm young. You know what I mean?

Oh, just like your personality. Yeah, like when I'm 50, I'm going to be a 12 year old. Like, it's just always just going to be how I am. So I think I just shock people with that. Don't lose that, Frankie. No, I won't. But, dude, we went to this vineyard and I got to shout out Delvino in Northport. I mean, when you talk about, we've gotten so many people that have, like, opened their doors for us in barstool world and golf world.

And it always blows our mind that people are always going above and beyond. But, I mean, this place was closed on a Monday and the things that they did for us. This place is impossible to get into. Literally, they post on their Instagram that they are, they're packed. You have to have a reservation to go in. They hold, like, I think they have, like, thousands of people that go a week. And you can't get a reservation until after December. Like, that's just how packed this place is.

and the guy brings it the owner hears that I wanted to go there and it's closed and he calls me he starts talking to me like he's my dad being like you have no plan we got to figure this out guy fucking brings in his staff brings in his chef from Italy Massimo who cooked octopus fucking homemade pastas 10 course meal brought out from my family her family he like hid my family did a whole wine tour I was able to put up all these pictures of us in one of the lanes of the vineyard so that when we walked down the vineyard he was giving us a tour there are pictures where she knew it was a moment

they played music by Dan and Shea Glad you exist to the point where I actually texted I texted Shea Mooney and said hey I just want to let you know you were part of like a big moment in my life I said glad you exist played when I proposed and he goes he FaceTime me from Colorado they were playing at

whatever the Bell Center now whatever it's called it used to be called the Pepsi Center but he was like thank you so much for making me a part of your guy's like moment he was like it was it was my dad was equating it's like he got married to um an Elvis Presley song he's like I would be like if I like just like married your mom and then Elvis Presley called him was like congratulations like you know what I mean like the guy who was playing in the background called up within minutes and was like congratulations like as if he was calling

through the song um so yeah just Delvino was awesome and if you ever have a chance to get in um definitely go check it out. It's a little, it's a little slice of Italy on Long Island. It really is. So yeah, I just, it blew my mind. Even my dad was like, the guy Fred, the owner, my dad's like, Fred, like I, this is what I do for a living. I own a restaurant. I like to be hospital. I like to bring people in. This is too much. Like, what he was doing was too much. Bottles of wine like crazy food. The food was, my dad's like, Fred, I'm going to, you have to take me out of a fucking, in a stretcher. I mean, it was crazy. We were embarrassed. I was, you know when you guys like something happens like that and you feel embarrassed at how much someone's doing for you? That's how I felt at this place. So.

Did she know it was coming, Frank? No, I don't think so. No? Had to know a little something. I mean, if this is all happening around her, she's got to be like, what's going on? I don't think so. I really don't think so because we planned it as if, like, I was at the Barstall Classic that day. And I was like, hey, three days earlier, my parents were like, hey, we got this special wine tour for restaurant owners, Delvino.

actually and she's like oh delvinos i love delvino's they're like yeah it's like clothes to the public but they're giving like restaurant owners like a tastings of the wine um if you guys want to come let us know and then we didn't talk about it until the day up like we were kind of like just sitting around i was at the bar so classic i'm like hey would you like my parents are going this thing you want to go and she's like oh yeah that sounds fun and then i was like all right like we don't have to go if you don't want to and she's like no no let's go that place sounds amazing and then i'd be like no it's 50 minutes away i don't want to go she's like let's go and then once we got there the guy's like you guys missed the tour let me give you a quick one

and then he walked us through, showed us how the wine is made. So dude, like, even I was surprised. I was like, oh, shit, I got to do it now. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's go time. Dude, I actually said that, right? So we turn the corner and you see all the pictures, the music's playing, and I go, it's go time.

Because it is. It's like a new, like, what I said before, it's a new step. It's like, it's like you're about to enter something. You know what I mean? Like everything else is just very childish. And now it's like, oh, boy, this is like real now. Today's real. Did you ask her?

father? Yeah, I did. That was an awful thing. How did that go? I just, like, barged in their house before I went to go play a Pup Punk show. Like, right before I hit the fucking airport to go to Pup Punk, I'm like, by the way, this opportunity came up on Monday in classic Frankie fashion. I have to ask you guys, like, now while you're eating dinner.

And then I started crying and then they, like, said yes. But yeah, it was, I was like, I wish I could have done on a golf course or something. I'm doing it, like, while you guys are eating, like, Mexican food at the table. So I was, like, in a rush. Yeah, so whatever. But yeah, enough of pictures were great. Right. Thank you. Enough about me. Let's let's, uh, you know, I know people like to fucking, they hate what's Frankie show. The one time when you said, no, dude, this is bigger than that.

No, that's, I mean, we, this is a huge life moment. Congratulations. Yeah. I've, those people that are thinking that right now, they go fuck themselves. They go listen. Totally. Yeah. And we've seen this whole thing like through different stages in the Barstool classic watching you like try to operate, trying to get this thing done. Um, you're, you're a neurotic person. I think that's fair to say. And we were just trying to be like, something might go wrong but you just got to get through it and I think you handled it as about as well as you possibly could totally I thought you were very composed on Monday I thought you were very composed I agree dude on Friday whenever we yeah Friday when we played in Indiana I was in the shower and like

we had just played Denver that went well and then I'm staying I'm in the shower about to go to Indiana we're getting all these pictures of like lines down the block we're hearing like 2,500 people go there the owner of the bar says it's the biggest event at Indiana University all year. I'm looking at my elbow in the shower being like, dude, I'm like one crash symbol away from this thing blowing, like on the first song. Like I was just like,

what happens if that happens? Like so many people are excited for us. And then I'm like in the shower and I'm thinking like Monday's coming up. And bro, like the black in my eyes started like getting closer to the middle. I was like, it was my first ever real life like diagnosed panic attack. Like it was a legitimate. you look on WebMD like what is a fucking stress anxiety panic attack that was it

so that was that was that was dude I almost passed out in the shower which would have been bad really bad I go up to Robbie Fox I'm like dude I don't think I can play this show I'm like something's wrong with me he's like you're fine I was like I don't think I am man it was weird do you feel like a weight has been lifted or is it now just whatever the next thing is is weighing down on you yeah no I because this is a big one that's a really big one to get yeah no this was a this was a big one this was a big one this was a big one this was a exciting. So yeah, now we're working with cross-country mortgage.

I don't know if we have a fucking ad read for them, but that's the next step. And then, yeah, we just live our lives now. Just live your life. I love it. Congratulations. You had J.T. Justin Thomas came in hot on your comments.

Matthew Wolfe was in your comments. There were some big names in your comments. I thought that was pretty cool. I was scrolling through them. Like, oh, shit. Frank has got some clout coming on this picture. There was a big picture. That picture went nuclear, man.

It was crazy. but yeah yeah yeah the the the blue checkmark brigade underneath that photo was nuts and yeah it was just cool like guys from the islanders reaching out to me and it's just it was a very cool moment of just like wow like this is yeah it's an event it felt like an event which I think most of the time it's for the girl like the whole first day was like people didn't even say anything to me like all the face times and stuff like I wasn't even a part of it literally I was like handing the phone up being like here they want to talk to you so like which you guys know I didn't love.

Like, I wanted all the attention. Like, if someone could have gotten down on a need of me, I would have preferred that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, congrats, Frank.

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And the very first drink that was served there was a barstool transfusion. Wow. What do they call the new structure? It's called cradle crossings. Cradle crossings. I miss the pine cone, we'll say, but that makes sense. Like that thing was doing so much business that you need a real structure with like people working in there.

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as the first thing he ordered was a barstole transfusion um so big shout out to owens they've obviously done a great job uh supporting us helping us so you can support them by basically having an awesome cocktail so um thank you to owen's mixtures um daniel kang scramble four man scrambles out um we were in Vegas, first one we've done against a female, you know, a lone professional female golfer. We obviously played Paige Brannick in them, but playing one-on-one against one of the best players in the world. Seeing her game up close and personal was great. But the whole thing was really dominated by how much shit she talks and how natural it is and how good it is and how she was just roasting us the entire time. So if you're into that kind of thing, us playing four minutes of grambles, getting chirps, seeing phenomenal golf.

Go check out on YouTube, us versus Daniel King. Thought it came out great, gentlemen. I also want to add a little wrinkle into this. If you guys look at the shot counter and we always say like the shot contribution counter, Frankie led the team in chips and putts at the end of the round. Did you really? I couldn't believe it. I contributed to four chips and five putts, five puts.

Yeah, you were making some putts. Only two drives for me. Eight drives were used of Lurge. Like that, when you watch the breakdown, it's amazing how important lurches on the T, right? Because like, if I miss that put, probably Riggs makes or vice versa, whatever. But the drives, man, like, if we don't have those drives, like, we're done. We are absolutely done. There was only one hole in, like, the fourth where it was, like, really apparent.

Like, it was just a spray chart. Like, T, you went way right. People were saying, touch them all. Frankie, you just, I guess you sliced yours way left for you. And then I hit a good one. one and then rings it one off the map right but besides that it's like you know gain of 20 yards or something it was like 8 3 3 2 or something like it's not even close so right but i i i do agree i guess a couple of them are just about length right like we have a couple on the fairway we take the one yeah and i think you were

frustrated at me one point because like i was like let's play up mine because it's on the right hand side you're like it better not be on like a little bit of like an arc like you better be flat round over there and then you got over there and it had like a little bubble under your feet And you were like, man, we should have played mine. So, like, that's one right there. You know, that was. I'm looking at it right now, and we use 10 of Lurch's T-shots. 10?

10 of them. That's a big number. Yeah. Also, maybe I stopped the video on, like, whole 16 or something. You got frustrated. I tried to go all the way to the end here. Yeah, 10 T-shots. Yeah, I mean, five putts from Frankie.

That's pretty damn good. Let's go, Frank. That's really good, Frank. No chips for me. There's just no number. There's just no number next to my chip count. out. Yeah, there is emptiness.

They didn't even put zero. They didn't even put zero. They didn't even give me a number. They were just like he was a non-factor on chipping. I think you prefer the no number because maybe it's like it's an error that they made. A zero, I think is meaner. I don't know. I think a blank spot is meaner, but I'm okay with that.

I had five putts as well. I don't want to brag, but I had five as well. It's an interesting breakdown. I want to say to the, I believe the first like two or three scrambles that we did, Frankie had like zero puts made. And so for you to have five now is a most improved in a category, I would say. Oh, Frankie's mic isn't working. He's not going to like that.

Did you mute yourself? Something happened. But yeah, I think until like the last scramble, like Frankie went to like the back nine without making a putt. Like he was non-existent. It feels pretty recent that Frankie was like, guys, that's the first put I've ever made in a scramble. I think that wasn't that long ago.

Also, how peaceful is this? Frankie just doesn't have a mic right now. The look on his face, when we told him he didn't even start to try to fix it until 15 seconds in because he was so mad. He was just staring into nothingness. Also, the difference with what's happening like in his ears, but in the podcast room versus what's happening in his bedroom right now. It's a tornado in there.

Oh, he's back. He's back. I mean, what a fucking nightmare this mic is. What are you? You're using something different than we use? No, so we use a little peek behind the curtains, a little behind the greens of behind the scenes of the podcast. I think that's just behind the scenes. All right.

I use this thing called audacity, which records my stuff locally, my audio locally. but for some reason it's like, it's stopping. It's like freezing every 30 minutes or so. So that's then like stopping my mic, because my mic thinks like the recording has stopped. So I have to unplug my mic, plug it back in, and then I have to fucking record. Why don't you use what we use?

Is I'd ask you? Because I have a PC, so I don't have, I'm like not using a quick time. Oh, yuck. No, it's not yuck, dude. This thing's a fucking beast. Clearly not. You're the only one that doesn't work.

Well, I also haven't used it. in like a week so I think I have to like restart the computer like all these things are up all these weird websites go on it's a lawnmore what do you have got to warm up is it supposed to I just think I haven't you know you sometimes you I give it like a nice clean reset like I've hit like I have so many audacity things open like from all the times we do podcasts I just think I need to reset it it is incredible how just restarting something still just works for everything it cleans it out beautiful tool turn it off turn it on and it just I used better mentally. You're like, this is going to work. And then sometimes it does. And you're like, I stand by that.

I used to live for like restarting the original PlayStation and like waiting to see that like orange diamond pop up. Like the orange diamond would pop up and then if it like went away, you knew that it was going to the next scene. But like sometimes it would just kind of float there forever. I think it was either a cube or a diamond. I'm pretty sure it was like a diamond. We were Xbox guys. We were always Xbox. You never had the original PlayStation. Like Sega and Nintendo though, you had to like do the. Yeah. But I was never, we were never PlayStation. We just, I feel like there was a point where people went one direction or the other.

We all, we went Xbox. Yeah, we went Xbox too. PlayStation was the weirdest. I was PS2 for a second. I was Sega N64, PS2, then Xbox. It was a long break before the Xbox. But then you were like kind of like goaded into it in terms of like everybody needed to play like Halo 2 and the level outlook. Or what was it?

Oh, blackout. Blackout, dude. was that a good level on Halo? Just total chaos on Blackout. You could snipe. You could jump up on that little outpost and you can snag that sniper rifle. But the other mean people, there were barrels there. They could throw grenades in there.

So you'd try to sneak up and get the sniper rifle. Is that the level with the two bases on either end? Yes. Yes. And then the middle was just like death zone. And there was like the little arm where you'd like go running up there with someone from the tower would just take your face off. And then like you'd always get bad. Because, like, the really bad people on your team would just run through the middle all the time and get killed by the good people.

He'd be like, it was always our buddy Greg would be like, how many times have we told you stopped running through the middle, dude? Like, you're just going to die. He'd be like, I thought out of lane. Or you go in tandem, and you, you'd always drive the wardhog and my buddy would get with the 50 Cal in the back and you just rip in the middle and you just do donuts and you try to kill the idiots that are in the middle. That was what I would, that's what we would do. What was that little called blackout? Outlook sounded right to me. No, you're thinking of a bigger one.

You're thinking of a bigger map, Trent. Blackout was the tight one. It was like one of the smallest ones. So there was just pure chaos. But the, there was, um, was it like Zanzibar was one of the really big ones that had like huge wall? Yeah, you're talking with like the Ferris wheel in the middle two T that would go around and around or no. Hold on. I'm going to look it up.

I'm going to look it up. Because Riggs, I totally agree that you have that one buddy, like, ran out late. And if you're playing like 25 or whatever or 50, it'd be like 49. 49 and then you just see your buddy Greg just screaming through the middle. It's like you almost just wanted to go out and tackle them and just take them off the mask. Somebody throw one grenade in a battle rifle, hit him one shot, game

over, they'd go nuts in the other room and you'd be like you'd just be sitting there in our room like Greg again dude like just sit tight man, we got all the weapons like what are you doing? Blood Gulch was the name of the other one. I don't remember that one. I'm seeing.

You don't remember that one? No, I remember Zanzibar. Zanzibar. from a tenacious D song. I don't know. Are you sure about that? I remember Zanzibar. I remember... Oh, I remember Zanzibar.

Or blood gulch now. I just Googled it. Yes. You were on the hill and there was a four at the bottom and the top and there was like a tunnel system in there. I kind of remember that as well.

That's the one we always put. Zanzibar's a real place. Off to East Coast of Africa. Frankie's comments during this section of Halo have been absolutely perfect. Just chiming here. I like the Xbox.

That's a song. That's a real place. I like the Xbox just because the controller fit my fat hands better. I always like the big, like the thick controller of the Xbox more than PlayStation.

Did you guys play the original Nintendo with like the Jaws game? Did you guys do any of that shit? Like Super Mario? Yeah, but like I'm talking like the gray original N64. Well, maybe just the original Nintendo.

Oh yeah. Duck hunt. Duck hunt. Yeah, like just like, as simple as it got. Mike Tyson, wasn't that the Mike Tyson? Yeah.

So, like, my sister actually bought that recently, maybe like a couple years ago. Like, you can buy it, you can spend a lot of money on YouTube

and try and get, like, the whole fucking package. And I remember, like, Jaws for some reason was the best game. It had the music

and you had to evade Jaws while you were swimming. Oh, my God. I may actually go play that, like, soon. Those games are so much fun, man. Like,

in the world, where everything's getting so complicated, which I love, like, dude, don't get me wrong. I play the Formula One game, and you feel like you're on the track. Yeah, I... Yeah, I go around.

I was trying to think of like a cool... I was trying to think of a cool fucking... Trying to think of stop the bolts for F1. Yeah, I was. Take it for a spin a couple times. But I spin the wheels from time of time. But I burn some rubber from time. I don't know.

Sure. Burn some rubber's probably closest, yeah. I would go right to this. I love all that shit. Like the realism, like, oh, my God, dude, when a new sports game is coming out and they release the features online, like the new EA NHL game, like, our new features are coming out tomorrow and you're like sitting there waiting for like one of the graphics upgrades. But there is nothing better than the nostalgia of playing just a very simple, fun game that you know is like hard to beat for all the right reasons. And it's just like you have a start and you have a finish. You got to get there.

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you have to give me some sort of credit for even having any sort of debate or argument about the moon and gravity and mass. And I mean, yeah, people think I'm the fucking dumbest idiot in the world. I did get some response. saying that like mass differences definitely have an effect on the moon. Like if one thing just has more mass than the other, like it may be able to evade the gravitational pull like a golf ball may have such little mass that it might like it might evade the gravitational pull

because it's so much lighter. That's a one guy message me as opposed to something with a little bit more mass, which I don't think I'm not getting back into this. I swear to God I'm not. All that's wrong. I don't know. You know that's wrong, right? So you're.

You were saying that I was incorrect on all the falling and the weight dispersion and all that stuff. It's all the same. I watched all the videos. I watched this dude in fucking NASA's biggest vacuum drop of fucking bowling ball and a feather. It was unbelievable video. Go watch it on YouTube. It's crazy. The feather just drops like a fucking bowling ball and all.

Right. And then you watched all those videos. You did all that research that showed that what Riggs and I was saying was correct. And then one guy DM'd you and said that maybe a golf ball doesn't because it's so light. And that's the, that's what you, that was your takeaway. I should have fucking saved it. There was something about like the trajectory of the golf ball. If you hit it really high, it could maybe escape the gravitational pull of the moon because it's only one six, the gravitational pull of Earth.

Meanwhile, like a bowling ball, if you threw it like a bowling ball, it wouldn't just like, it would be like, you know what I mean? It would get pulled down because it has a little. little bit more pull. Yeah, but if you, like, shot the bowling ball at the right speed and to the right height, it would also escape. It's called, like, terminal velocity. When something escapes, like, the gravitational pull of the planet, it's gone. Okay. Anyway, another thing of velocity won that argument. I've never seen a term win in argument past. Where was that three days ago we were recording the first pod? We never really got to that part because we were so, we weren't getting terminal, maybe. We were

just staying right down by the ground and having this whole. bowling ball, a spaceship, cruise ship to me. But here's one thing I did retain, one thing I retained business that, like, the, is when they discuss like rockets and bullshit going into space was that when something reaches terminal velocity, like when they shoot a satellite, that is when it gets past the gravitational pole of Earth and that it will, Earth's gravity basically can't, right? Like, if you just put a rocket up into space, you put it a mile or up into the air, you put it a mile up into the air, gravity will just bring it back down.

You put it two miles, whatever, but there's, a certain level where it reaches a velocity and a distance where that buffy's gone and ain't coming back. All right. So here's the message. Sorry. My voice is like, here's the message. I have to get this out.

Tyler James, data analysts graduated with a physics degree two years ago. You aren't completely wrong, so don't let Riggs and Trent pull you. As you found out, things fall at the same speed in a vacuum regardless of weight. That doesn't mean they have the same gravitational force. Gravitational force equals mass times acceleration. All objects fall out the same acceleration. This would be one-sixth gravity of Earth. However, heavier objects like a cruise ship would have much higher gravitational force than a golf ball.

A higher gravitational force equates to being harder for something to escape its gravitational field in. This would mean a golf ball having much less than a human would have much less of a gravitational force, meaning it could much more easily escape the moon's gravitational pull and never come back down like you first thought. I think that's right. That felt like a mic drop. I don't I think it's a different argument all I said the real this whole argument if you go back and listen was I was like the ball would never come down because it's it's so much smaller than the things that do end up coming down on the on the moon

you guys are saying it's impossible because everything falls the same way but I said there has to be some difference because there is a difference between a golf ball and a human and like there is like there is a difference right like there has to be a difference like a golf ball has to have something different that could possibly happen to it a human. Not everything is the same exact thing in all aspects between a golf ball and a human in space. It can't be. I feel like though that's just saying like the gravitational pull stays consistent. However the like the weight of the object makes it more difficult to escape that. I don't know. I just read this. I think that's right. I don't have a physical. I don't have a physics degree. I just read what people write to me. But you did all these videos and the one thing you took No, I know.

Client has said you could potentially be right about something. But, like, what he's saying is more to my point. Like, that's why he's saying, like, you weren't totally wrong about what you're saying. Like, yes, you learned that everything, like, everything Riggs and Trent told you is correct. Everything does fall the same way. But then when he starts talking about gravitational force equals mass times acceleration, even though all objects fall at the same rate, like a cruise ship would fall at the same time as a feather, he's saying that a higher gravitational force equates to being harder for something to escape its gravitational field.

in, which is exactly what I said. I was like a golf ball would just never land. Like I think that was my argument. So I think the important part there is the acceleration. Like when we're talking before, we're just talking about literally dropping two objects and they're going to drop at the same time. I think when you add in acceleration, that changes the entire game.

That is what gravitational force is. But I think that we were ultimately just saying, like, if you hit a golf ball, you don't reach that acceleration. But golf ball is just coming down on the moon. I don't know. Tyler might be wrong then. When Bezos and Shatner, when they take those ships and they go up there, do they reach terminal velocity? There's like the, I believe terminal velocity can be applied like an overall sense.

I believe terminal velocity is like when you reach a consistent like speed that you can't like accelerate anymore. When you apply it to like escaping the gravitational pull, that is like the speed that you reach where you are now. outside of the gravity or you have reached such acceleration and such, I guess, such velocity that you will now not get pulled back and you are essentially, you have escaped and you are gone. And what we're saying and what Frankie's, I think there is like, if you shot a golf ball fast enough, I believe it would escape the velocity of the moon. You might have to shoot it unbelievably fast. What I'm saying is I don't think you hit it just because gravity is six times less on the moon.

I don't think this is even close to enough to have you just hit a drive and the golf ball just never comes down. Like six times isn't that crazy. Right. I agree the, or I think that the velocity or the speed would have to be higher for something like a cruise ship than it would have to be for a golf ball. And that has to do with mass. At the end of the day, can we admit that a cruise ship and a golf ball,

there is, we would be able to find some difference between the two of those objects and the way that they react on the moon, regardless of what you have to do. to them. They are not the, like, the way that I was being spoken to in a, and I know your dumb scenario, was that those things are the same exact thing on the moon, no matter what happens on, whether you drop them, whether you toss them in the air, whether you move them. There has to be a difference between a golf ball and a cruise up on the moon in some aspect, correct? But in the way that you're thinking of it right now, I still don't think that there is.

Like, if, if, if, if I just take a moon, if I take a, if I take a, if I take a, if I take a, I take a cruise ship and a gulp and I just push them both. Like, no, same, same force, if you push them with the same force, they interact the exact same.

So even though what this guy is saying that the, because gravitational force is mass times acceleration, even though the acceleration is the same thing, the mass has nothing to do with this. So that equation is just wrong. Like the mass of a cruise ship has nothing to do. I don't know these equations. I think, okay, well, maybe he does.

We need to get somebody on your nose. So why am I now wrong when you don't know the equation? We can't keep going back and forth on this when we really don't know either way. We got to get somebody on here. What do you think about that point I just made? So I'm laughing at the whole conversation. I think, so again, I'm jumping into this conversation late. Like if you were going to drop a like two objects, different way, like whether they're on Earth or on the moon, they're going to still fall like that gravitational pull,

However, if I were to try to take a cruise ship and throw it, say I had the strength to even lift it, but I actually could put the same force in my arm to that cruise ship, well, it wouldn't go as far and it would drop because it is much heavier. But I'm still appalling the same force, but the acceleration would be way down. If I took a golf ball and hucked it, I'd have a better chance of it exiting the atmosphere, if that's the question, because the acceleration that I could, that would be impacted on that ball by the same amount of force would be much greater. Right.

Right, the same amount of force. But I'm saying if you set something with the same amount, like if you inflicted something that they were going at the same velocity on the moon. But that's a different argument though, right? Because you, like what he's saying is correct. Like force, like if I throw a tennis ball and a baseball with the same amount of force. No, I'm saying the same amount of force. Wouldn't one go faster than the other because it's lighter?

the same amount of force like actual force like miles per hour in my hand if one thing's heavier and one thing's lighter the lighter thing will go further no i'm not saying i'm throwing them both at 60 miles an hour because i would have to throw the heavier thing with more force to get to 60 miles an hour yes it's like when you throw a wiffle ball you throw it faster than baseball with less force that i'm saying but okay so then you have to realize that the wiffle ball and the baseball are affected differently by air that's what changes everything on earth there's no air on the moon so if you inflict the same amount of like you obviously have to inflict something that's much heavier you have to inflict more force to get it going at the same velocity but all we were discussed is like the the velocity of

things are going if you start them with the same velocity they are going to end up falling at the exact same spot at the exact same time so i think where i'm right and we're going to take a victory lap is when you just said you're going to have to apply force to something that's heavier on the moon to get it to the same velocity so there is a major between a cruise ship and a golf ball well yeah i agree hold on hold on before we go what is the actual crux of the argument here i don't remember i don't remember something about like i said like i remember saying they're right and nobody knows what we're actually arguing there was something about where where we were talking about golf on the moon and i was like well wouldn't the golf ball just like because it's so light and so

small wouldn't it just like never come down because it would just like find if bryson de chanboe hits one it goes all the way into where he usually hits it it would like evade the gravitational pull because at first we didn't know there was a gravitational pull i felt like it was just we didn't we were throwing things out and then i was like well then i was asking why they have to be weighted down on the moon like wouldn't they just fly away that ended up being like somewhat wrong but somewhat right i don't know so rink said that's a six i would say like bryson's tribe and a fucking and a cruise ship so i would say bryson's tribe would go six times higher and six times further than it would on the earth if it's one six and so like if you wanted to figure it out like

look at the moon i don't know look where things leave basically that gravitational pull and if he hits it at 300 feet usually then it goes to 1800 feet and if that's outside then it's just gone forever but if it's not then it's coming back down just way further i apologize to the listeners for bringing it up again so i mean it is what it is i've got two more things real quick of responses that i got from some things I said on Monday. Do they start with good job, Frankie? Frankie, don't let them bully you kind of stuff. No, Josh Ward says ice numbs the pain but does not help at all for healing.

Heat and compression is what you should be going for. Now, everything that I've heard about my elbow and my surgery is that I should avoid heat. So I need to know from what's up, Doc, what should I be doing? Because when I put on ice, boy, does it feel good? I don't know. I felt like this guy was saying the exact opposite of everything I heard. And then the last thing from this guy, Michael, he says he's the fucking spine specialist here at Mayo Clinic, Mayo Clinic. The world-renowned Mayo Mayo Clinic.

Mayo. We do not tell people to not sit on their wallet. There are so many other things that people do every day that affect their backs that are much more significant than this. Crazy that he didn't like include what those things are so that we can know that. Again, I guess that was just like a wise tale of me. Like I've always learned to not sit down. on your fucking wallet because it messes up your spine. I guess I was wrong.

I was wrong about three things in one podcast. I would say that. That's a big deal for you. If we're going to be honest, like, I've been wrong probably about 100 things in one podcast and just went on with my merry day. Yeah.

I think Frankie lost his mic again. This is sad. No way. Oh, no. No, you're back. Okay. You were just like whisper talking and I didn't know there was nothing coming through.

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Bermude is turning into kind of a shit show. I just saw there's only 126 people in the field right now at this event. This is one that I was at the last two years. I was actually at the tournament in Bermuda. So it's obviously a nightmare to get there. It's an island, so they're incredibly strict on COVID protocols and all that. But man, they've literally every alternate has gotten in the field. And they're still like, now they're probably 25 or so people short of a full field in the Bermuda tournament,

which I've never heard of before in my life. Dylan DeCere, our guy, he wrote, fascinating situation in Bermuda. PJ Tor ran out of players. Every alternate is now either in the field or decline in the spot, which means there will be five or more empty spots in what was supposed to be a 132 player field. So now they're down to 126, they're down six spots. Most fields are 156 players, or a lot of fields are. So clearer they're way down.

And then the Wednesday Pro-Am, which is supposed to be obviously today, was canceled, and a lot of the practice facilities are closed. due to dangerous wind gusts. So we got a little bit of a shit show up in Bermuda, boys and girls. I mean, it's a shit show on the East Coast right now. I mean, if we're going to be honest. Like, I don't know, Frankie, if it's bad where you are, but all the way up to Massachusetts, the winds are Halloween right now.

They really are. Dude, I was driving home from the office yesterday, and I was in this parking garage, like, waiting to, like, pay my ticket. And this dude was, like, fumbling with his stuff being, like, We got to get to the tunnel before they close it down. Like, it felt like the end of the world. I guess like they were worried about flooding. If someone says that, we got to get to the tunnel before they close it down.

It's like, we have to know. He literally said to his partner, like the guy he was working with because they were both one of the construction stuff. He goes, if we don't get a move on it, we're stuck here. Because I guess the thought was that if there's flooding and stuff, maybe they shut the fucking tunnel down. I don't know what they usually do with that. So I didn't know.

I fucking booked it once I. saw that. That's like that scene in the town where they robbed the bank and they got to get over the bridge out of Charlestown before they open they closed the bridge down. It's like that, but weather related. The town is a great movie. You guys all seen the town. It's fucking high anxiety though. Like you have to be in the right headspace to watch that movie. We talked about it a couple weeks ago on this podcast about having a laundromat cards. Yeah. You know where you had to need a card actually do your laundry. What's the company? Well, Hercules. Yeah. because I the bank that they rob in the town is actually a laundromat and I used to do my laundry there.

So when they're saying, we got to get to the bridge. Yeah, it's like the nicest looking laundromat you've ever seen. And yeah, you can use that card in the building, which is supposed to be a bank in the town. It's actually just a really nice laundromat. Wow. Yeah, fun fact. The more you know. That is a fun fact.

We started with Bermuda in the weather. and now we're talking about Alanger Man, Boston, the power of 4. For Bermuda, they should just start pulling people off the street to play, I think.

I think that's the move. I'll go. They absolutely should. And it's, I mean, those are clear with somebody. But like, the fact that they, you know, PJ Tour's got a legitimate PJ Tour event.

Someone's going to win, get like into the Masters. There's all this like exemption stuff and they can't find players to play. They're going to come up five at least. maybe six not short, um, it's pretty shocking.

I love Bermuda. I know Lurch loves Bermuda. Um, it's an unbelievable spot. Super nice people. But it's a fucking island. So like the fact that they even host a BGA tour event and that they're able to host a BGA tour event there has always been pretty surprising when I've been there.

Like it's a little bit of a shit show. But I think, you know, some people embrace the hell out of it. Some people don't, uh, in terms of the PGA tour because like, like it is, it feels a little bit like you're in like, the 50s, would you agree with that lurch?

Where it's just kind of like the whole town, the whole island is tight driving. You have to like, you're not even allowed to like rent a car really because you have to get, the driving is so dangerous and on the other side of the roads. It's a pretty crazy place. So thinking about them hosting PJ Tour event and then hearing some of this stuff happened,

having been there, it's not like the craziest thing I've ever heard because Bermuda is almost, it's like a free for all. It's it's like a free for all. It's it's it. Yeah. And it's wildly exposed. So like the wind.

there. I mean, Riggs, you know obviously well because you played, what was that, some rum, what was Bacardi? Gossilins. Gossilins. That's right. That's right, which is headquartered out and you played that tournament. The wind was blowing off the charts. But Port Royal, where they're playing this is like super exposed. So, I mean, the balls are just going to be flying everywhere, but heck, they need more players. Like, you know, I'll fly over there right now and go playing this thing. Wouldn't it all islands like that be exposed? Wouldn't all islands be exposed? Yeah, I would say so.

Yeah, but you have more wind than other places. Yeah, but they see a tree covers. They're just right in the middle of the Atlantic. Like you can kind of be talked near Florida, like the islands that extend out to Key West. You're a little bit maybe more protected there. But yeah, I mean, this is just, it's like smack dab in the Atlantic. So come kind of this time of year, like you get into hurricane season, as you know, Frankie, because like we'll start to see some come up the coast.

Like, Bermuda's not in a great spot to take some. with that weather on. Yeah, it's a shocker that they host tournament. I think it's great because I love that course honestly. I think it's like people go back and forth of whether they like Port Royal or Mid Ocean. Mid-Ocean's a super fancy one out there.

I've actually been lucky enough to play both, but I actually like Port Royal, I think, better than Mid-Ocean. It's got an awesome finish. Rory had, I think, he made an awesome eagle there a couple years ago in 18. It's just a good golf course. But yeah, it's a bummer of the feet. field low, but yeah, I'll say it a thousand times.

If they need more people, like ask the four-man scramble to come there and be part of it, you know, like, we'll do it. Dude, that'd be a perfect event for that. We've been, I mean, we've been begging the John Deere Classic for years now, but, like, they obviously need more people. Let the four-man scramble come out there and hit it around. Why not? I saw a couple tweets.

I saw a couple tweets lobbying for us to get an invite out there. I don't know how well we do in the wind, you know. I know. Be a bad sure. What happens if we win the thing? Like, they wouldn't know what to do. Do we,

like, go to the Masters? I think so, yeah. You know, like halfway through, they're like, these fucking guys are winning this thing.

We got to figure out how to stop this. I think they shut down the tournament. I think they just say the tournament never happened. Like, they just close it down. Right,

that's how they did turn. And it's like, sorry, the Bermuda Championships is like no longer an event. Yeah, they're like, This thing is already a mess, but if these four podcast idiots can win it,

then we're shutting the whole thing down. If we can win your tournament, you've got to shut it down. That's the rule. John Deere, give us a call. No, no, no, no. We couldn't win that, no way. I think we would win a tournament. I do, too.

I think we would win in Bermuda, although the wind would be a problem. We don't play great in the wind. There's like a 16th hole there is like right along the ocean. probably like a 215 yard shot from the tips into the wind. Like we, it might be a DNF for us. You know, like we'd have to play a driver way out to the right to like another area and chip down.

Like, it'd be a, it'd be a struggle for us, I think. We do have to do. And we basically did, oh, we did do this with fucking Kisner.

We played from championship lengths. Yeah. But like, I would love to play tournament, like a tournament fucking golf course. and just see exactly what we can do. You know what I mean? Like the day after a championship or something.

Let us come on Monday and play from the T's that they played on Sunday. So it's like they're, you know, champion style T's wherever they were located and just what are we going to shoot with the Greens rolling still the 13 or 14 or whatever. This is what we have to do. We have to talk to a major championship, maybe the USGA, whatever. And we have to say, all right, after the US Open or whatever tournament we want to do, the PGA, the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday after.

You guys continue to roll the greens the way you did from Thursday to Sunday. You continue to do everything. And we're going to play four days, four-man scramble. Obviously, we're going to, there's going to be some, just like, people are going to argue that there's no pressure and there's no field and there's no fans. But at least we'll get some sort of barometer for like how we would play on a four-day event. Do we go 10 under, 12 under, 16 under?

Like, how deep can we go? can we get this thing? Do we go three over at the U.S. Open? Are we horrible? Are we making bogeys like crazy? Do we never have a chance? Now what I'm thinking about too is like, you know, we talked about video games earlier and like you race against the ghost, if you will. Like as we play on Thursday through like hole six, this is where the field was on whole six.

Correct. You constantly have this barometer after Friday, Saturday. Like where are we on moving day? And knowing exactly where everybody else was at that given moment would be so good in. comparison. There's our new video idea. I mean, every time we talk on this podcast about some stupid fucking video idea, ends up being huge.

We did this with the fucking four-man scramble. I guarantee this would be one of our biggest videos we've ever done. If we attempted to win the U.S. Open four-day, absolute grind, we got the golf course involved, whatever governing body involved, where they set the pins the exact same way they done Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. They rolled the greens the same exact way, left the rough up, everything. God. Could you imagine on Sunday if it was like a dead even heat? Like we were just like in the mix. I think we do well. I honestly do. The only, I think it really depends. Because Pioneers, we basically played from there. But I also think Pioneers suited us a little more. Like, we're horrible out of really thick rough. Like, we're horrible. And like, dude, Tori Pines. Remember some of those holes that we played when we played it from the tips? Those holes were, we're hitting great drives. Some of us.

sometimes and being like 300 yards out on par force like with i think i think that was my i think that was my least favorite experience on a golf course dude i think i shot a 90 there and i consider that one of the best rounds of golf i ever played i had i had zero fun sir as denzil was i was i took it was horror yeah i took some time off after that one that was like i think guy was like a mid the high 90, I forget, but it was just like driving it to the beginning of the fairway, slapping something up there. But again, with a scramble, it's like all you need is one kind of good one. You advance it, those tough par fours. Like, we still have a really good chance to make a four. You know, the shorter ones, like, we're going to be in good position.

I remember I hit like a couple good balls. Everybody hit a couple good balls where then that just like is like a catalyst for another one, you know? And like we just work as a team. And you can take a bogey. You can take a bogey, right? I mean, everybody takes a bogey. I'm thinking 15 at Bethpage Black. Like, we're probably not going to hit the fairway because we're all going to try and crush one. We're going to be in that really thick rough. Our second shot, someone's going to maybe get into the fairway.

Then we have a really tough third shot to get on that green. But if we walk away on that hole with a five at Beth Page, all right, like on to 16, downhill par four. Let's fucking make a birdie. Let's make a par. Let's go into 17 with a par three. Like, we can grind out scores. We can make bogeys in major championships. It's fine.

Like, winners make bogeys. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you're spot on. It would be, it would be excellent. I think that would be excellent. I'm, like, loving it, like, the go scoreboard and just like us working against it, talking about, like, going to bed that night, like, we would, if we could do it, where we, like, tee off at one, you know, I don't know, we could mimic it.

It would be pretty good. Amazing. I like it. I'm in. I'm curious to see, like, how different would it be, I guess, what I'm curious about is, like, from Pioneers? Because we played Pioneer number two, four-man's scramble from, 7,600 yards.

We did, yeah. Yeah, it depends on the course. I mean, if we did that four days in a row, like, are we as sharp and as good on Sunday as we were on Thursday? I don't know. I think a lot comes up to play. Maybe we're worse. I don't know.

Yeah, it would be, maybe we get nervous. Everyone's like buzzing that we're going to win the is hope. We get super nervous. We just suck on Sunday. Yeah, we'd need the live ghost scores of people telling us, all right you guys are seven under on Saturday on the whole 14 Rory's nine under right now Yes and we're fucking we need a bird here

It needs to be perfect like someone needs to be we need like Graphics and scoreboards this needs to be an event We also need to find a golf course that will let us extend the championship four more days Right you essentially needed to the major to happen again Just on some sort of feed where it's saying like yeah, Rory made Bertie there, Rom made Eagle there, and then we're involved in that too,

and you can watch it. That would be awesome. Invite the fans. Let people come back. If you want the pressure, let people stay. I don't think people are saying. We're adding so much, like,

cause, we're adding so much cost to the championship. Like, they need to break that shit down the second the tournament's over and we're asking. Dude, all the golf, all the golf hardos

are going to be so bad at this segment being like, do you know how much it's going to cost for the maintenance? team and then the course, the membership's going to be so mad that you're going to have to keep okay. All right, then how about this? Let us play in the major. Let us play it during

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Yes Didn't she? Didn't they respond to something from like months ago? She responded to Eddie Pepperle at like six hours ago and she said so Eddie Pepperl's tweet

was about the bunker incident and just kind of like his incident, Patrick Reed's in general. He had written, of course he could be true that in the case of Patrick Reed. This was January 30.

which my birthday, by the way. This is January 30th that Eddie Pepperl tweeted this. Of course, he could be true that in the case of Patrick Reed, he may have cheated, but that doesn't mean he always cheats. I've played with Patrick, was astonished at how skillful a golfer he was. This is why it's so sad that there are so many episodes like this with him. And then used golf facts responded to that out of the clouds and said many episodes, no, the sand incident, which you put in quotes like Dr. Reval,

an expert forensic videographer broke that down. Altered footage from a copy of live broadcast from his actual shot to the shot down in replays basically digitally altered all caps to publicly smear and cause damages to pee read. Dude, I'm looking at this tweet and it is... It's got as spicy. I can't believe what I'm looking at.

It's a full breakdown of how he didn't... I just... I'm stunned. by this. It looks like there's a brooder film. They're really breaking it down. And then... And then... Expecting this today. That's a great line back.

And then there's been all kinds of responses. One person said he used to steal his college teammates' clubs. There's something wrong with him. And then use golf facts, who, again, some people on the internet have suspected could be Justine Reed, said, oh, the little boys

from Georgia 11 years ago who claimed air quotes, he did because he was a year younger and taking their spot on the team or the fact that he beat them in the NCAA championships. P. Reed has been given equipment for manufacturers since he was 12. That includes putters. That's what used golf facts responded. The thing I respect about use golf facts,

who may or may not be Justine Reed, is that it's clearly her, and everybody knows that it's her, and she didn't stop when everybody found out. She was like, I'm just going to power through and keep tweeting from this account that everyone knows I run, again, allegedly, that everyone knows that she runs and she's still just tweeting through it. And going through and finding old Eddie Pepperl tweets and, you know, tweeting out images of being doctored.

It's just crazy. Her tweets are really like it. Her tweets are insane, man. Dude, my favorite part of this is somebody tweeted one and she responded, your joke is not funny. The information is still very relevant and widely known, but she used the wrong form of, of your she wrote you apostrophe r e and somebody ashley wilkes corrected her with like a your correction thing and then she just wrote thank you it's a great twitter account man it's a great great great twitter account the way she writes in caps if anything there are more chances for

them to equally distribute teatowns she is exactly who dan soder explains um is like america if anything goes wrong, I'm going to absolutely uncork on somebody. I mean, he's essentially talking about Justine Reed. I mean, my goodness is this person electric entertaining has to be that Twitter account has to be saved at all costs. You know, like they've, they've banished Trump from Twitter and Facebook and all these things. Like people sometimes are like whispered away from Twitter. We have to make sure that we fight with every given ability that we have to keep use golf facts on Twitter. Because that, it's what drives our sport if you really think about it like this is what we are about this is we love this is our lane this is this is our this is our golf this is the world of golf that we have been pushing for forever yes totally one of her i mean another one of her tweets um they go somebody goes this is a stretch and she goes i wish it was but it's not a stretch by any means i wish over 180 hours went into this it's very clear

over 180 hours went into it? What does that mean? Like, is that her grinding for 180 hours? Did they hire somebody for 180 hours of work? Like, what does that mean? God, it's good. It's an account that has almost 20,000 followers, which it seems like a lot,

but also seems way too low at the same time. Like, if you're into golf and you're into this side of golf, which we clearly are, you have to be following that account. Because it's just must see. sometimes it goes away for months at a time, but it comes back with a vengeance like it did with Eddie Pepperl. Give her the PIP money. She deserves it.

Just give used golf facts all. What is it? $40 million they're going to be distributing at? Just give her all of it. Is it 40 million? She would still complain about something, which would be great. Yeah, dude, $40 million. Dude, I think the PIP is $40 million.

Because Harris English was talking about, like, I have no chance of winning that. It's just a lot of money. They should be doing something else with that money. It's like $40 million. Didn't Max Homas say, I could have this wrong, that he thinks that there should be like a PIP awards.

Was that Max who said that? I think it was. They're keeping this all very secret, which is stupid, and he's right. If you're going to have this thing where you're rewarding players for making an impact on social and whatever all the qualifications are,

and then not telling people, like the results, that's stupid. Like go the complete other direction and have an award. show and have people come up and give stupid speeches and like, I don't know if you have to go that far. I would actually like that, but don't make it so it's under lock and key and only certain people

can see it. And have like a live leaderboard. Like they should have a leader. They should update us on PIP. Who's like dominating PIP? Like that would be if they're going to do it, lean into it, make it ridiculous. And Frankie, I know you said like they can't call it that. It's almost perfect that they call it that.

Because of how stupid. It's just it's smart. It's genius, but it's PIP. It's so dumb. They call it. Right. It sums up the ridiculousness of it perfectly. Imagine if Brooks Kepkin wins this fucking thing.

I could see Dave getting pretty mad about that because all that hype around that match, then he gets, quote, unquote, hurt. And now he's playing a match against Bryson DeCambeau. And like, we're not even getting them. Like now Dave's like, fuck it. I'm not even doing the match. Like he said he's dead to him. Like that is, if he ends up winning because of all of the conversation and all of the talk

around the eventual canceled match, that would be some. controversy. I would love for that to actually happen to see how bad. But we'll never know. With the current system, they're not going to announce a winner. No. Maybe they're not going to have an award show, but they're going to say this guy won this year. No. What I've, I don't think they do do. I mean, maybe the guy who wins can be like, look at this. What is it? They get like 10 million bucks. It's like, look at all the money. I think eight million. I think the winner gets eight million. Top 10 gets paid. Top 10. I saw, I just randomly Googled Pip standings, Pee.

tour. And Sports Illustrated article goes through. They do a projected finishes and Tiger Woods is number one. Roy McElroy is number two, Jordan Speed three, Phil Nicholson four, Dustin Johnson five, Bryson six, Ricky seven, Justin Thomas eight, Brooks Kepkin nine, John Rom, 10. See that? It's just about being a good golfer then. It has nothing to do with being unique on social media, coming up with events, coming up with like fundraising things, nothing. Right, because I think when this first came out and they decided they were going to do it, we talked about on this show how we were going to do our eye test and judge it that way. And like, if we're judging it with an eye test on who's been making the most headlines this

year and who's been making the most noise, like Dustin Johnson shouldn't be in the top 10. And Bryson and Brooks should probably be one and two, you know, flip-flop, who should be one, who should be two. Like there's clearly other things that go into this that are weighted more than the things that we see and the things that we judge on what drives golf headlines. Yeah, but I would say, though, I don't think it's just a test of like who's the best golfers because John Robb's the best player in the world. He's 10th on that list. True. So I think clearly it is a little bit different, but you're right.

Like Brooks, the fact, when I saw DJ as number five, I found that to be pretty shocking. like DJ. I love DJ, but he ain't, he ain't top five in my PIP awards, that's for sure. Right. And I, I get the Tiger Woods thing. He's done anything this year, I feel like. Who? Yeah, DJ hasn't done anything. Right. It's like memorable.

And I guess I understand Tiger Woods being in the top spot because he's Tiger Woods, but even that, like, I think it should be Brooks and Bryson one and two, like going away. They've driven the most conversation for the sport. Good or bad. I agree with that. Yeah, I think that's right. But I guess, yeah, I mean, they do weight things differently. They wait things.

And they have that, remember they have the negativity clause, which is stupid. They have the clause that says, it's like a subjective negativity clause where it's like, if that's not deemed, you know, positive for the sport, it doesn't go into the PIP. You're wrong to do that. Everything should go into it. No such thing is bad velocity. They need a mass times acceleration type of equation for it. Are you in the raw data?

I mean, like, you can go into the SI article, and then it just brings you to a Google spreadsheet. What's the reason? There is an equation. Oh, yeah. Tiger Woods is just one clearly with, like, 500% better than anybody else it looks like. Wouldn't you say that's negative stuff? Like, wouldn't, like, wouldn't Tigers pip stuff this year be negative to the sport? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't, I don't know.

Yeah, dare anybody say Tiger's bad for the sport? Good luck with that one. Well, no, but like... Right. No, I'm saying, like, the news that came out wasn't positive this year. The reason he was as big as he was this year is because he drove off a cliff. Yeah. But I think he would have been huge if he didn't, right?

Like, that's... But, yeah, if, yeah, you could do a lot of those ifs, sands or butts, but he didn't. I also think, like, he drives. more new like if you just google tiger woods news stories like everything he does throughout the whole year is like a news story that gets more attention than anyone else in the world of golf like he shows up for a doctor's appointment and he's just photographed in l.A that's bigger than almost all nine other guys anything that they do the whole year I agree I'm just saying if you had that negativity clause and it like it certainly the news certainly wasn't this is great for golf as the

helicopter was swarming over the car and it was like Tiger Woods was being rushed to the hospital and we didn't know if he was still a lot. I certainly wasn't sure it was the biggest news of all time. It certainly wasn't hashtag great for golf though. So I mean there are guys that are trying to do a lot of good things for golf that aren't going to win it. But the whole thing is bullshit. I still think Tiger should win me because he should win everything he does. But I'm just saying that is a complete lapse in their judgment on how who should win this. Like that's, they have the equation wrong. They don't put in the clause.

They won't have to own up to any of it because they don't release the results. So it'll just come and go and players will get paid out and we won't have any. That's the other thing. Like if you release the PIP Awards in some sort of way, however you want to do it, that in itself drives conversation for golf. Like it's, it becomes like a self-fulfilling thing where it's like, oh, now we get to debate on who we think should have won the PIP against who did actually win the PIP, but instead,

they're just going to hold the results like their... I think eventually they'll get to a point where they release it. I think they'll have to get to a point where they release them. You have more faith in that than I do, because I don't think they will. Gotta get rid of the suits. I was trying to think back if Charlie and Tiger playing together was this year, but that was the end of 2020.

Because that drove... That was great for golf. That was hashtag great for golf. Oh, my God. Very much, though. Remember how amazing that was when Charlie stepped up to the tea and just roasted, driver and tiger hit it to three feet and Charlie made the butt.

We were like, this is real life? I'm with Charlie, just ripped driver, turn around and then just tell dad, tell dad, like, I'm in the fair way.

We don't need to hit. Come on up. He's like out of his world. And then how we got from there to where we eventually. That one, there was one time where he just made contact and turned around and said, good. No idea if he was going to clear the water or if it was going to end up in a good spot.

I miss that. I wish, I hope he's bad. You know what I was thinking too? Because we saw that clip of Tiger standing behind Charlie. The next time we see Charlie Woods, he's going to be completely different. Like those kids grow so much at that age. He's going to be like talking with a deep voice and shit. He's going to be taller than Tiger. Tall, yeah. Dude, when he's like 13, 14, he's going to be fucking like an adult. Yeah, you do grow fast at that age. What is he, 11? 12.

He's 12 now. He'll be like, like 13 by the time we see him next probably. Yeah, he'll be seeing, you're just a person. Dude, my, yeah, I'm thinking back to like my 12 year old Williamsport baseball team. Like, we started having some real dudes on our team at 12 and 13 years old. Some real dudes talking about their penile and stuff. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

I remember going to get hair all over the place. Like, you, I think at that age, like, you're probably around eighth grade. Is that 13? Something like that? Yeah, junior high, you're fucking rolling. You guys are like shower naked in the fucking locker room and stuff. Right. It was like, oh shit, like that.

Those kids are big. Oh, yeah, you get to that point. Certainly in football, too. I remember there was just, oh, I wish I could remember the kid's name. But he was Metro football when you're that age. And everybody else shows up and like, you don't know what you're doing. You're like you're Bambia on ice.

And then there's one guy who looks like he's 35. It can throw football 80 yards. And you're like, what the fuck? Thank God he's on our team. But then the other team would have two of those guys and they would just murder everybody. It is. Like at that age, If you mature just a little bit faster, you're dominant.

Advantage. Dominant. And there's those kids that everybody knows. I looked like I just got out of a fucking hospital for treatment. Like I had 12 years old. I was in a fucking, I was in a hospital gown essentially walking out there. I was all bone and fucking, I mean, you put me next to fucking Louis and Rick who were fucking staying out there.

They were six foot one thick boys. I'm sitting there like, hey, wearing number two for Derek Jeter. You never played Pop Warner, did you? No, dude. Oh, dude, that would have been dying. I'm like your little legs. I would look like the little giants kids. Yes, yes.

Walking out there. After he takes the alga, Selzer. Yeah. And I, for that age, I mean, I've been big ever since I came out. And I was one of the bigger guys, but like, I was middle tier. There was just that one higher tier that was just, they honestly shouldn't have been out there. Like, we had a kid that was six foot, I think he was.

We had a kid that was six foot three on our 12, on our 12, on our. 12 year old baseball team. He was a fucking exactly. Yeah, I think my brother was 6-1 in the 8th grade. It was like he's going to dominate football. I'm sorry. He's going to win this. Yeah, there was a kid who could dunk in 7th grade in middle school.

People were like, yeah, that kid's awesome. That's fucking awesome. Everybody else can't even hoist a basketball up there. We had this kid in fifth grade. I think his name was Jeff. And he put his hand on the blacktop. We used to play a game. Who could

hold their hand on the blacktop and not burn their hand and like everyone used to fucking just lift it off because it saw it and Jeff would just fucking stare at everyone. He was a big dude, the running back of like his team. And then he'd be able to dunk like fifth grade, sixth grade. He was like, no

joke like sixth grade. He was like six foot one. And he was able to dunk on like the seven or eight foot hoop and we all thought he was Superman man. Like he was able to hold his hand on the fucking blacktop and then dunk. I was like, dude, I can't even like, I'm like, I don't even know what my body is.

I don't even... Right. If you could palm a basketball in middle school, you were a superhero. Oh, dude. I just didn't have that shit, man. I didn't... You still don't.

No, I don't have any of that. I just remember the first guys in hockey that would like, after practice, would just take all their clothes off. It used to be you would just take your gear off. Then you'd put, like, your normal clothes on. You just walk out, disgusting and sweaty. And then there was, like,

A summer all of a sudden where a few guys would just get ass naked and bring a towel and walk right through the middle of locker room and go shower. We were all like, oh, fuck, those are like adults. Those are like, they got courage right there. And then. Body hair is a big top. Six months or something. Everybody would kind of like, you'd bring soap and chip and then everybody's your shower and for the rest of your life. Everybody just showers after hockey.

If I did that walk through the lock, if I did that walk to the locker at that age. If I did that walk to the locker at that point, the whole fucking locker would probably have to start clapping like I was doing something brave. Growing up is weird. It's really weird. It's crazy.

Especially when you play sport. And then you get to a point where you're just, then you're just level off for the rest of your life. It's like, oh, you're basically reach your terminal loss. You're just there. You're just not floating forever.

That's like you're just so adult. Rudy who played, one of our best friends at Parsool, fucking love him Rudy Junda, rude boy. He played college hockey at Denver and won a national championship shout out Rudy. He was telling me, which I never thought of, that like 15, 16 year old hockey was absolute fucking chaos where guys were starting to learn how to absolutely light people up. Like he was saying that it was more like dangerous and scary than like the NHL.

We're like these big body kids like that you're talking about that have been walking around with their cocks out since they were like eight years old in the locker room are just leveling off kids that are like my size because like maybe it was even like 14 year old hockey where like kids weren't developed yet and other guys were ready for the NHL and they would just lay people out just like it was full on fucking chaos which I never thought about like that age gap or not the age gap but that maturity gap and and just having that like you know muscular difference is probably scary big time And you're going so fast.

I mean, it's, you know, like, you can only run so fast, but, and, and, yeah, like, but skating, like, you're going fast and you're, like, going fast without trying to because you just glide around and people, all of a sudden it goes from, you can pretty much skate around with your head down because you can't really get hit. And then all of a sudden they just implement hitting and people just get buried in hockey. I mean, buried. If you say, I guess the thing he misses most is just running around like a freight train, just being like every kid. that he could fucking find that his head down, just standing over him feeling it. Because you also feel like you're like the cool guy, I'm assuming, and you've all the testosterone now,

you're running around, you're skating around as fast as you can. I would have gotten fucking lit up, man, if I was out there. You would have been literally murdered. You would have been murdered. Oh, God. They got hair in their pits just leveling Frankie Borelli. Fall.

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Because I'm ready to ship it and get out of here. Keep an eye out. I'm heading right now. I'm doing a really cool project right now. I know eBugs are going to be coming with me, but keep an eye out if you're a hockey fan, if you're an Islanders fan specifically. We're heading over to UBS Arena.

We got a little project going on. I've been pretty quiet about it, but I want to start getting the hype going for this thing because what we're doing over there is going to be fucking psychotic. I mean, it's really, really cool. I'm super jacked up about it. I'm sure you could probably figure out what it's going to end up being.

I mean, we're filming all the time at this arena is being built. So, yeah, it's really exciting. I'm getting over there right now. It's just I have like that giddy feeling that I always get like when we're about to do a big project. It's so much fun, man. I fucking love it. And I wear a hard hat, boots and an orange vest. And let me tell you something.

You guys know how I freak out when like I'm doing the wrong thing or I think people are looking at me. I almost didn't walk in because I bought new work boots and you needed work boots. And they were so clean and light brown that I thought that I was exposed. I was exposed amongst all these construction workers. You know, these hard men, that lunch pal, hard hat type of guys. They're like, look at this fucking guy who just got brand new $100 fucking work boots. Never stepped on a construction site in his life because I had no dirt on these things. No scruffs.

Everything was perfect. My pants. My helmet was pure white. No stickers on it. I felt like an asshole. I didn't want to go. I didn't want to walk in. I'm like, look at me. I'm a fucking circus act. Yeah, you should have held the boots out.

Right. I was say you should have held them out the car door, like and dragged them along the street before you got there. Dude, I was going to do it. There was like a gravel road. I was just going to rummage him through it. But then the person we were meeting was walking out to us. I was like, fuck. I was about to do it. And what's lame? Are you having super clean work boots or having dirty ones that you just kicked around in the gravel outside? That's obvious. Yeah. I remember I carried center blocks around the New Jersey Devils. new stadium for a summer. And when I first walked in, I was just like this little choir boy,

we were just like, here's my first day of work. You know what I mean? And then by the end, you're like, all right, I'm somewhat fitting in. But certainly, yeah, I'm sure you could look at you and be like this little. Are they steel toe? They're steel toe, yeah.

Good man, got nice boots. I got nice boots. Yeah. What do you know about boots, Trent? What the fuck was that question? No, and I work for the city, like doing like, um, just like mowing lawns and trimming hedges and stuff like that and you had to have steel-toe boots that's the only time i ever had to own those what were you doing time was that uh was that a community service no no no that was just like a summer job

you sure it was funny drove city trucks around and you just like cut branches down shit like that it was fun you know super tan super in shape sounds like community service no no no i had to have steel-toe boots though he's like i was picking up garbage on the side of the highway it was a great Great. Had a chain around my waist. I had shackles around my ankles. It was great. I'll give a shout out to Great Horse.

I did a buddies trip up there this past weekend. Awesome track. Friends of Barstool. Just good people. But if you got a couple weekends left here in the New England area, so go play on a golf trip and have some fun with your buddies. The hang there looked awesome. Oh, dude, it was great.

It is awesome there. We were down at like the grill kind of like restaurant area and they actually have places, you know, that like you can stay on property for members and whatnot. So we were lucky enough got one of those. Went down to the restaurant to eat and they were like, oh, we're like packed for the next like two hours. But you can go up to the men's locker room. So we went up there. We ordered like wings. We played some cards.

Had poker. Like it was off the charts. It was a great experience. So it was sweet. So anyways, encouraging a golf trip as we close out the season here as it gets cold and bitter. It's nice. Very nice. Great logo there, too.

Great horse has a great. Great horse has a good logo. All right, boys. Well, everybody have a lovely weekend. Hope everything goes well in Bermuda. Congratulations again to Frankie. Thank you. Hit it hard.

Hit it hard. Hit it hard. I didn't know if Trent was not going to give a hit it hard. He just gave a big thumbs up, but I liked to yell at. That was a thumbs up to Frankie. Well done, Frank. Thanks. See you, boys.