Fore Play - Covid Sucks, Close But No Cigar, & Frankie White House

Episode Date: July 28, 2020

Once again it’s been an eventful 5 days since our last show. Frankie was in the Oval Office, Finau posted another non-winning top-10 finish, and Major League Baseball has returned only to immediately suffer a COVID outbreak. We hear all about the White House experience, discuss how soccer was on Golf Channel on Sunday morning, react to Michael Thompson’s elite 40-yard bunker shot, and debate if you play the 18th hole or not if you’re 1-under through 17 and your pregnant wife calls and says her water just broke. Interesting show. Let’s go!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We got the whole crew. Once again, we got Lurch. We got Frankie. We got Trent. We got produced, which is my new thing that we do, which everybody seems to love. We are produced by the very hardworking Jake Bass, Brendan Jones, eBug. By the way, congrats, the whole team, because we just had a video, Kisner, a scramble match video.

As we were preparing to record, hit a million views. We're just kind of four idiots. We started talking about golf a few years ago, and we just put a video out that we put a lot into and that we thought was going to be a really cool idea, and it has a million views on YouTube. People are actually starting to just, like, notice us. I feel like just from that video alone

because people are finding it, watching it. So it's just cool as hell. I mean, it's just a really, really cool thing that something's got that many views, that people seem to like it that much. The fact that Kiz was willing to drive three or four hours to do that, that he brought Dewey in for the whole thing, that they're all part of it,

all the sponsors and partners everybody it's just cool as hell we have a video on youtube that has a million fucking views yeah and that and youtube views are the real deal so it's not like you're because you don't have like a feed you don't have a you don't follow each individual one of us individually and like we just keep spamming it with like retweets or videos and like you scroll through your twitter or your instagram and maybe you like say what is this and you go buy it and it gets a view whatever on youtube like it just lives there and you have to go find it essentially and you have to watch the video for like 10 to 15 maybe even longer maybe even 30 seconds for it to count as a view you have to legitimately sit there and watch the content and it

it tells you like the retention rates and all that stuff it's actually incredible like how much people are watching that video it's a long-ass video and people watch a lot of it like a million people it's they're staying on for most of the whole thing so it's really cool I think people are usually like your own biggest hypocrite and usually like to the stupid stuff that like we put out from time a time I can be hypocritical or like like you know against it or whatever um the word you're looking for it is critical critical critical thank you take out the hippo just critical yikes um it's right and just critical um but i i think this video is great i think the match first kisner is amazing i think it just came off really well and it was super fun we had a ton of fun so it was

super organic it's just a good yeah it was uh it's just cool it feels good so i you know i i don't know i don't to sit here and like pump our own tires, but just so the listeners know, so you guys understand, it means a lot to us, shit that we track. We're trying to get kind of like validation on what we're doing in our work and we want people to like it, we want people to view it, want people to be interested in it. And putting out a video on YouTube that has a million views, it just feels really, really good and really cool. So that's also big time ammo and leverage for us to do this more often. So, you know, I know people like the format. We love the format. It's fun to go out and challenge some of the best players in the world in a fucking scramble format as ridiculous as that sounds and we'll be

able to do that more and more often because so many people viewed that and enjoyed it so thank you to everybody who's uh who supported us thanks to everybody who made that video possible and uh thanks to us for getting a million views because it's really really cool um okay we got a lot to get into um we're getting ready to hit a back-to-back stretch here we've got a wgc then we've got the first major championship ever held with no fans in the middle of of a global pandemic. That's going to be interesting. We've got a bunch of really good

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This job's taking me to some pretty crazy places, man. And the White House is the most recent. You know, I just, I'm brought to wherever I'm needed. And we went there and did this interview, and it was a fucking crazy experience. And yeah, I mean, I just, you know, this, at one point I was just like four years ago or four and a half years ago, I was literally sitting at Borrelli's just watching bars to run down to go to sleep. and flipping pizzas and trying to come up with a nice craft cocktail menu for the bar at Borrelli's and then like you know super bowls and food fighters concerts and all this stuff with Dave

and behind backstage passes and fucking masters and meeting tiger woods in Australia and and then the fucking White House like it's just places that you never thought that you would enter I've always been a really like big fan of Washington DC and like you know we've talked on this very podcast about us like riding around bikes late night during the all-star game and like me and trent went around looked like all the monuments and stuff and like and me and jared and shout up bret merriman like i remember just like standing outside the white house years ago being like oh shit like that's the fucking white house it's pretty cool like never see that and then you're inside it and it's fucking crazy man it was a it was a wild moment dude when were we when were we there when did we ride

scooters around was that like a month ago it was a month ago right we were just there a month ago we stopped on our way back from Pinders one of the times coming back. It was like midnight. We were going to be coming into New York late anyway. So we're like, fuck it. Let's pull off to the side here and go to a few monuments. Like you said, Frankie, you love Washington, D.C. I love it as well, but you are very much into Washington, D.C.

And we just rode around. We went to the White House, Washington Monument, the Lincoln Monument. And then a month later, you're within the walls. It's pretty fucking crazy, man. Yeah, it was pretty fucking cool, man. Like, there's the whole experience. Like, just the whole experience of getting in, like, going through. you had to get COVID tested and

there's so much protocol and like they had my information for weeks at hand so it's like they were definitely monitoring what I was searching and like talking to like you just I love that whole world that like everywhere you look at the person staring at you with like a earpiece and like the Secret Service is so stereotypically

Secret Service like it's crazy they're wearing the suits with the glasses the Oakley's and they have one one hand in their ear looking at you like they're about to take you out at any point I'm I'm surprised as they let you in if they've been listening to like the things that we talk about. Like here you go,

going ankles, the earlobes and fucking powdering up your taint. That's probably like, this guy's a fucking liability. And listen, I'm not, and I went in there with just, you know,

I'm the least political person of all time. I just have to state that, like, when I go in there and I'm just there for the experience, I'm there to work. And I think to me, like, walking into the white house,

I'm the dumbest person in the world. I'm not going to, I don't know anything about politics. I don't know anything about who's supposed to be in that chair or whatever. At the end of the day, like I was just, I couldn't believe I was in,

inside that building, all the history of that building, what happens there, like the people that go there, the seats that we were sitting in in the waiting room, just thinking like, who else? I mean, Mariana Rivera was there at the same time that we were. Someone's like, oh, while you guys are waiting to go in the Oval Office, you want to go see Mariano? I was like, Mariana who? Marianna Rivera. He's just sitting in there having a cup of coffee.

I was like, oh, hey, what's up, Mariano Rivera? The best closer of all the time, arguably the best person to ever throw a baseball. It's just, it was crazy. And an experience I'll always have. yeah it's really really really cool and I'm happy that we did it the way we did it we didn't just like go for like a pizza review whatever like at least we went there with like something that barcel's never been able to do right like sit down with the leader of the free world and interview regardless of who it may be at the end day I think Dave did a great job and I think it was like you know we were trending globally and it's just like that's what barcel does man they make waves and they just somehow you have to respect regardless of what your life is or what you're like whatever you're like whatever you're think you have to expect the fact that Dave Portnoy was sitting at his fucking kitchen with Paul Gazzyzynski guys sitting there figuring out how they're going to make like these fucking tours and they're going to figure out all these like foam tours and and back to

school stuff the blackout tour and then all of a sudden like Dave Portnoy is sitting there I remember looking at him sitting in the chair by himself I'm like this dude's about to interview the president at the white house and that's crazy to me you know like regardless of what you think or believe that is so cool that's an american that's an american success story to the brim like you've made it from the bottom to the literal top that's as far as you can go how much how much leeway did you have like how much time did you have before like you knew like we're going like was it like a mission i was told the night before yeah just thinking like a covert op like no we're good they're approved they can come yeah i mean i mean there's no denying that like what goes on over there's probably like

not as what goes on most of the time when there's a president. And I think they're a little more disorganizing. There's like, yeah, yeah, come on down and let's do this. And we were just like, okay, let's go do it. Like, I can't imagine other terms of the way it has to say as simple as that. But, I mean, it seemed pretty simple that like we were told to go and we went. So, I mean, it was a body to be in the Oval Office. Did it like, do you just like, you know, like, yeah, I mean, like Trent said.

I love DC. I love all those shows. I watch every single show that has to do the West Wing and fucking house of cards. And I'm obsessed with that whole world. I think it's so cool that there's a room that's dedicated to just the highest security and the most like powerful decisions that happen in the world. And to be inside that room, it felt like I was inside a movie. Like I was looking through the lens and like filming stuff.

But I found myself like if I look back on my footage, which a lot of it like is just like stuff that like we can't use. We're inside the oval office. I probably wasn't supposed to be filming. But like you're watching around. I end up like putting the camera like just the camera just on my feet at one point because I'm just like looking around like looking at just the mold like everything like the moldings on the walls and everything that was just so perfect everything and also what's really cool is we had this dude across the across the lawn at the Eisenhower executive building which I didn't know was like it was the basically the Pentagon before the Pentagon so like all the heads of state were in this one huge building it was like the it was like the Navy and state and war building. And this dude basically was in like the vice president's like area of that building. And this guy like came with the room, I think.

He's just like, he is like a really knowledgeable dude about the history of the White House and the Eisenhower executive office building. And he just told us like all the history of this one room. Like he's like, come over here, guys. Like this really old man that like just knows history. He's like, look at the, he goes, look at this little crevice in this room here. It doesn't look like much to you, right? But that little dot was painted in 1824.

I'm like, what are you talking about right now? How do you know that dye? You can tell that it wasn't made by a machine. It was made by this type of bristle and this type of brush, and it was built before. And it was just crazy, man. Like, I just love all the history. And yeah, it's just, I mean, I could talk about it for hours and hours and hours, which I'm not going to because no one wants to hear me talk for that long, not even me.

It's just really cool. I just think it was a really, really cool experience. Yeah, it was, I was watching behind the scenes, and it was, like, there were moments where it's about Dave and the president and doing the interview. And then there's times where it's like, he's talking to Frankie. And we're like, oh, that's our guy. He's just like, well, you know, you're there. You're like, you're in the White House.

You're in the Oval Office. You're setting up and preparing and making sure everything goes right for Barstall Sports's sit down one-on-one exclusive interview with the single most powerful person in the world. Like, no matter who that. It's just, it's a pretty, pretty. surreal thing and yeah so hearing about it's very cool did you did you do anything wrong did you ever do something wrong i was told i was told to put the camera down at one point i felt like that was it for me i thought

at one point my i thought i would just go and then i would just fall forward and a bullet just went right through the back of my head because like i don't know i just was recording in the wrong spots whatever i did i did feel the most like you know we talk about country clubs and how we hate that feeling of like where you're stepping where you're not going to step right felt the don't the same thing i felt the most that at the White House. Like I was like, I'm not supposed to be anywhere here. That's what I mean because like I, that's a great comparison because you put me in those situations and I end up doing something wrong because I'm so nervous.

Like so I can't even imagine what the feeling like that would be at the White House where I feel like any move that I make is going to be wrong. And like you said, a dart is going to go into my neck and I'm just going to pass that. Yeah. You got a fucking dart in your neck. Yeah. Like if you told Trent is a face. White House, we're just, we're actually in like Hollywood, it's fake.

You wouldn't make any mistakes. No. You're the real white house. You're stripping all over. You're like punching people on accident that you're not supposed. Yeah. Like, hey, good to meet you. I just hit them like way too hard.

You're like, I'm just super nervous. One of the most interesting things I'll end up on this that I noticed was that like the West Wing is super small. You think it's, you think of this huge white house and you think, you know, they're just rummaging around, running around and just doing all America stuff in there. But like it's this one little area of this huge building and everything is in one little, you know, 10 to 15 steps away. You see all these like huge rooms that obviously massive decisions are made around these fucking huge tables and decision making rooms and war rooms. And then you have the oval office and then his patio and the garden.

And everything is so small. It almost looks like a set. Like I was waiting for lights to be on top like a movie set, you know, but it's not. It's it was very, very small. Very, very small. Is that because it's so old? That'd be my best guest, right? Because it's been there forever.

I don't know if they renovate that stuff. But it's like when you go to like Wrigley or Fenway where the seats are smaller because it's just been there forever. Yeah, I would assume so. Yeah. It's also just like not that much real estate, right? Like that's, they have the eyes now our executive building. Like between the main White House part and the way I swing, that's just how much real estate that has. Right.

True. More you could really do with it. But I do think that's, everybody was smaller back then. Right. I was a good more spot. But yeah, it was very cool. It was overall just surreal to see the Barstall Sports president and founder sitting down with the president of the president of the United States. And Frankie was there.

So it was cool. Okay. Golf. Let's talk about some golf. First thing I want to say that I went to turn on the final round yesterday and soccer was just on. It was just golf channel. I'm like, all right, let's go. Here we go.

Maybe they'll have Golf Channel. Maybe they'll have Golf Channel the pregame that they do. you know, when Randall breaks down, what might happen. Nah, it's just fucking soccer. And I tweeted out,

of course, that, you know, I mean, I just turned on an old channel on their soccer on. People are like, oh,

it's championship Sunday. Like, that's a fucking answer because it's Premier League championship. What are you talking with? That would be like, if,

you know, there's a November master's issue. That'd be like if somebody turns on NFL network to watch football and the master's is on.

And they're just like, no, no, I went to watch football and the master's on. And I was like, no, I know, but that's a different fucking sport.

So the whole thing was on top of a couple of weeks ago, our whole debacle with it not being on and then turning on the television, having it say live golf on the screen and then it was just soccer being played, I was stunned. I didn't know what to do. Yeah, so I guess they've, because I tweeted about it as well, and I guess they've been doing this recently also maybe last year hockey playoffs. They put on the NHL playoffs all this was going on.

So I guess Golf Channel is just renting out space when there's no golf on, But there's golf on now. And there was golf on Sunday. And it's like, why do we have a channel that's called Golf Channel? If we're just going to be, if it's just like NBC plus, plus, let's call it that. And it's going to be a place where all of this NBC programming lives, whether it's soccer, hockey, or golf. Let's call it that. But if we're going to call it the Golf Channel, I think there is a benefit to always having something that's geared toward golf.

Well, it mostly Golf Channel or something. I'd love that. I'd love to have the awareness of that if they would do that. fine. Golf and things that are somewhat related because they're sports channel. Yeah, just 80% golf. That's the name of the jail.

Put that little 80% in the percent sign, 80% golf channel. Fine. But the way it was just so surprising. And I almost thought if somebody trolling us, did they act? You know, like maybe they got hacked and somebody threw,

oh, we're going to fuck a golf Twitter and we're going to put on the soccer fucking game here. And no, it was just, it was so. surprising. And then people were defending it. Like, no, it's championship Sunday. I was like, no, no, I know. But there's, it's golf championship Sunday. Like, there's golf on. You know,

I will say, no, no disrespect to the 3M, but it wasn't the end of the world because it was the 3M where, like, not the most interesting weekend fold. Like, they all can't be winners. They all can't be Justin Thomas and Morricowah coming down the stretch at Murfield Village. So,

like, it wasn't the end of the world because the 3M, I think DJ was the highest ranked player in the field. He withdrew with the back injury, Brooks Kepka missed the cut, like not the most interesting Sunday of golf I've ever seen. Michael Thompson's in fact, like, you know, he hasn't won in a while. It's a pretty cool success story. He gets all these exemptions for the next couple of years, but it was, boy, I was rooting for Tony Fee now to make a move, and he's just not doing it on Sunday. No, aside from it being a tight leaderboard coming down on a stretch at the end, like,

I mean, with just a bunch of no names of Tony Fee now, like, no disrespect to the guys in the leaderboard, but, like, it was just, Like you're saying, Trent, there's nothing really to write home about with this tournament. I mean, at the end of the day, maybe Golf Channel is like, well, it is championship Sunday football. Like, let's look at this. What's just in our ratings pick. Let's just call a spade of spade here and let's figure out, like, who's going to be watching the most of whatever we have here. And I know, like, I would have probably watched the soccer at that point.

Like, I don't know. Maybe it just meant more. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt that the leaderboard just was brutal. Stunk. The guy that ended up winning is a total snooze fest to watch play golf. Now, I even think, like, Kevin Kisner's a snooze fest to watch play golf. I'm not in any way disparaging Michael Thompson.

He's got, he's a journeyman, he's played for a million years. He's had a bazillion starts in between wins. It's a cool story. Somebody had to win that tournament. Somebody had to win. What I always say about playing a lot when people are like, oh, you're an idiot for buying a while. Correct.

I currently have the same odds that the person that wins the lottery has. So I'm going to play because we're both in the same spot except one of us going to fucking win it. So you're right. Somebody has to win the tournament. It was this Michael Thompson guy who, again, you had to really want it to be watching this fucking thing to be invested in this thing. Or you had to gamble.

You had to bet and be invested in that in which it was too hot in St. Louis yesterday. I'm in St. Louis. I was too hot yesterday in St. Louis to go out and play golf. So I was like, I'm going to bet on somebody watching golf tournament. Bet on Tony Fienau, and of course, Fienau did what Fianau's been doing. Since we started this podcast, since we started this podcast, that motherfucker has not been able to win a golf tournament and has finished in the top 10, 30 times now since the beginning of the 2016, 2017 season.

He did win the Puerto Rico open in 2016, but since the beginning of that season until now, he has 30 top 10 finishes. He has not won since that 2016 Puerto Rico opened. he has a staggering, okay, stat going on. Where in the top, for the first three rounds, for Thursday, Friday, Saturday rounds in the PGA tour, he is in the top 25 in scoring in all three of those rounds. And in the fourth round, he is 171st in fourth round scoring on the PGA tour.

So it's not like people are just coming out and beating him and he just can't get it. He just can't get it. They can't play as well during the final round. And it's shocking that he hasn't won a golf. And I saw that said the, The top 10 stat, the second place guy for finishes and that time span is Tommy Fleetwood with 16. Like, it's just not even close.

And I hate to harp on Finole because we do talk about him a lot because he isn't contingent so much and doesn't win. But this was a marshmallow field. Like if you were going to strike and get the monkey off your back and be like, look, I can finally win tournaments that aren't the Puerto Rico open. Look, I won the 3M. This was the one because there was nobody in the field. dude's made $19 million not winning golf tournaments that's just how consistent

that's how consistent he's been like I mean just think about how much money I would love for someone to take a time it's not going to be me okay it's not going to be me but if someone wants to sit there and figure out all the tournaments he's finished second in

and all the tournaments that he was he had the lead in going into Sunday and what he would have made and I want to compare his his network or his career earnings from right now to what he should have had or maybe could have had, and that will make you throw up. I bet you it's close to like 35, 40 mil, right?

Like if you want to all his turn. When you watch him, he's so good, too. He's so good. He does everything well. And then, lo and behold, he just can't win a golf tournament. Yeah, he's clearly rattled about it too because he's been caddy change. You saw him a couple weeks ago I put that video out of him like lengthening his swing and try to hit it a little farther like Bryson.

And he said in an interview that he is actually going. to slowly try to implement that into his game. So it's not like he's just content being like the second place of the top 10 guy. He wants to fucking win. And it's got to be infuriating to be that close. And as we've talked about a lot, it just gets harder and harder. I mean, because now you know the main storyline watching the 3M yesterday. I mean, it's none of these other fucking guys that nobody's ever heard of.

It's like, oh, here's Tony Finnell. And they've got all of these, a buddy says it that way. I thought like I had a mini-stress. or something. I was like, I didn't know what was going on. I've been, I got my wires mixed there because my wires crossed stuff because one of our buddies says it like that. We always make fun of them. Gotcha. So it's not for now. It's phenow. It's phenow.

But it clearly becomes a thing and it has to be a big thing in his head that he cannot get it done. He's been there in huge tournaments. The Masters, of course, he was right there and had some bad shots and kind of collapsed and wasn't in the mix down the stretch, despite the fact he's in the final group. Even then all the way from the masters to the 3M, the fact that he still can't get it done. He missed five putts inside of 15 feet. He had the one putt on like the 15th hole, I think it was yesterday. That was one of the worst puts ever seen a professional golfer hit. Just never, no part of it looked like it was ever going to even come play. It was like a four foot put for par, I think it was. So it's just like he just needs to get over that

hump and you do feel like he knew it because not much can go wrong with his game. Like he's got that tight little compact swing that he hits at 3.30 or whatever it is. And so it's like he's just there all the time because there's not much that goes wrong with like Phil's got the long, you know, the really long back swing, loopy swing and he drives it all over God's Green Earth. It's like no, I was just right there in the slot, tight, compact. He's always in the mix, but he just can't fuck him in turn. It's bizarre. I don't know what that is. Is it like pin positions on Sunday being more difficult? So his like approach to greens, like he looks at the wrong part. I don't know. It's so interesting, though, how some guys can't get it done.

He's clearly found himself on this list of just struggling on Sunday for whatever reason. And it sucks, too, because, I guess it sucks around because we're talking about a very successful person. Like, you only have these conversations when you're so consistently in the mix and successful, but you're just not successful enough. Like, if you ask any player on tour, they would sign up for that many top tens over that span of time in a heartbeat. but we're talking about it like, boy, he's, phoenial just stinks.

He can't get it done. But it's the fact of the matter is, until you finish, we're going to keep having these conversations. We've had this exact debate, and we've had the same thing over and over again, where we say, would you rather, if you had to go into a career,

would you win, like, a master's in the U.S. Open and then never win another tournament for the rest of your life? Or would you be like that journey, that guy who just played is a compiler of stats, right? Makes the Hall of Fame because he ends up with 25 million, in career earnings, 30 million career earnings,

but he never wins a goddamn tournament. Yeah, Tony Fee now's his potential ending career stats. Would you take that or would you take a guy? I don't know. Well, I think of who would I compare him to? Danny Willett? Like, there was a clip. Well, he won the Masters, yeah.

So, I mean, yeah, it is a little, it's, yeah, I mean, that's a pretty good comparison. But there was a clip from Kisner a couple weeks ago where he said, like, Charles Howell's career, who he's won 40 or 60 million, whatever it is, Kis was like, I would just quit if I were him because he, you know, it was, I think it was Matt Janella, it was trying to get him saying, you know, like, yeah, that's a great living. Who wouldn't sign up for that?

And kids was like, I'm so competitive. I would, I would quit. I would be so infuriated that I would just, I would quit or I'd be rattled or whatever. And so it has to be on some level. And again, Tony Fienow comes off his very cool, calm collected. We chat him with him with him for a little bit down in Melbourne. And he is like that. Like he's just kind of, he's a chill.

He's a chill guy. But even inside of there, he's got to be rattled. I think that shows with the caddy change and with a couple other things. But it ain't like it's some fluke. It ain't like people are just storming and he's playing great golf and getting beat out at the last second minute, somebody playing a little better. Like he goes from top 25 in the first three rounds to 171 in the fourth round score. And that's a mental issue.

That is a nerves issue. That's a problem. And he's got to figure it out. And it sucks that he didn't yesterday because I bet on him and lost my money. Max Homa made a nice run. Tide for third. We had him on the show a couple months ago during quarantine. Awesome guy. Very funny follow on Twitter. He did like a little hiatus from Twitter. I think he was pretty rattle about the way he was playing golf. And then, you know, said he was, he put out a tweet, I think last week, tweeted something there. He said, you know,

I'm going to, I'm going to now start playing. It's a great golf. I need a refocus, whatever. And then went out and finished tie for third was making a run yesterday. I made several birdies in a row. Yeah. End up finishing tie for third with like 100 other people. So it's always nice to see Max home up there, I feel like. Yeah, he's well as good goals of guy. It's like, it's fun to see him because we've interacted with him. It's just like I put a bet on Bubba this week. I wish he did better, but he didn't.

Made an eight on the 18th to miss the cut. So that was tough. I don't know what happened because I saw he posted a good, he was like three under on Thursday, right? Hey, it was the same thing. I bet on Bryce in the week before. Great, great Thursday. Bryceon cards of 10 misses the tournament.

same thing Baba goes out Thursday good round Friday on the front nine the 18th hole he started on 10 he made a triple and then never really recovered in missed the cut so it's been tough where she's loose bicks are brutal lost every unit I bet put 12 units down all of them are a miss so maybe it's me I don't know but yeah home is one of the good guys of golf it's fun to root for him it's fun to see like a guy you know focus in and get his game back and make a run, top five finish. That's awesome. Catch a big check. And I wish you're more success.

Have you guys watched Molly's game yet since I've been in the White House and doing all this stuff this weekend? Did you guys ever have the time to watch Molly's game? No? What the fuck did you do this weekend? I've just been really fucking busy. What the fuck did you do, Riggs do? You're fucking back home playing golf?

You guys can't watch Molly's game for two hours. You don't watch TV for two hours? I forgot. I just crazy. I mean. Where can I watch? Netflix. You just type in Molly's game.

Wait, what's Netflix? I don't know what that. Like, what do you mean? Have you watched sense of a woman yet, Frankie? No, you can literally lick the scent of my woman, okay? So, don't you fucking... Welcome to your girlfriend? No, I guess so.

That's tough, yeah. I am. I am. I am. I am. I should have a 73, though. weekend no big deal. Holy shit.

Where? Was it a real 73 or were there gimmies and stuff? No, real 73. Even when I blew one by and it was probably like four feet by and my buddy was like, oh, that's good and I just putted it because I was like,

once you're on it, you're on it. So it's Coltsnette Country Club. It's definitely a getable track. It's like 6400 yards, I want to say. So there's some par five as you can get to. But yeah, I was one over on both sides. Fuck. Wow.

That is some good fucking golf, man. It was. It was good golf, too. I was hitting it so good. I missed two. I missed a four-footer for Bertie. I missed an eight-footer for Bertie. And I probably had like six other looks inside 20 feet.

I just never. Let me ask this. What's with this kid always giving you 14 shots of just killing you? What's going on with that? So, dude, that kid is phenomenal. That kid got her up. He was first team all 10, first team big, you know, like, All-American. and he's playing in some tournament.

What are you shooting when you're losing to this guy? What are you shooting? Like mid-80s, probably, 84. Okay. And dude, he shot like a, I think he played with me. He might have shot 67. And then the next day he went to Manuskwan River, played the back. He's shot 63 and shot the, or had the record.

The kid's a joke, dude. He's like a phenomenal talent. And he's going to be like, he's going to have. have a chance. It's funny because Lurch and I, you and I DM the little bit about it. And because you put up these stories and they're great because they are great to follow. You've improved your social media prowess and I think the stories are great. And you're playing with this kid who's clearly phenomenal. A little bit. A little bit.

I want to get to the point though because I do agree with this because I've thought about this a lot over the week. And you did put this story, but it's, it's, uh, Insta stories of this kid back and forth, back and forth. And his swing is, it's just beautiful. It's a thing of beauty. And then Lurch puts his up. And I've obviously played a lot of golf with Lurch. And I think his swing is pretty good.

It's way better than mine. But then you see it back to back with this kid who was a fucking phenom. And he looks like a homeless person who's never played golf before. Like the difference is staggering. Yeah. Dude, I flip back and forth from that image because I was like, what's he doing? What am I doing? What's he doing?

What am I doing? And I'm just like, I'm horrible at this game. And I don't think I'll ever be good at it. There's so much going on with his lower half. that just isn't going on in your lower half. Dude, one time we're into the wind, and it's like the hardest hole on this course, Rumson. And anyways, you got to hit it probably like 275.

And you do that, you have like 200 in over water, maybe 180 in over water. And I think I had 2.30 out, and he might have like 140. He ripped a driver that was not to be believed in comparison to my golf ball. I honestly couldn't believe it. And then from then on, like, I didn't win a hole for the rest of the day. I mean, he's just way better than I. What's his name again?

Chris Godder up. Okay. Yeah. He looks fucking... I'm a Rockers guy. Let's go Rutgers. Gotcha. Yeah.

Riggs, you try to make a point there, but we're just completely on mute or just never came through. Frankie, I think, like, there's a little gotter up. I think he and I were both kind of thinking a little something that we just... Yeah, something's there. There's something there in that name there, got her up. I don't know. You're going to make another joke. about your girlfriend and how all got her up i barely know her

i don't know her i thought i got it wasn't there either but i knew something um was there anything that we need to wrap up with the 3m because i kind of sabotaged that with the molly's game talk congrats to tappen you know first win since 2013 but he's exempt from i thought you were going to go a different way because storyline guy great storyline there um yeah no i in like It's pretty funny how, like, opposite the two weeks have been. Like, last week it's John Ron becoming number one player in the world. Like, those are huge stakes.

And then this week, the stakes were seemingly much lower with a much lesser known person. But, like, it's still a cool accomplishment for both guys. Like, now he gets to play in the U.S. Open, the PGA Championship, the Masters. Like, it's all very cool. I guess it just shows, like, golf is cool regardless of who's winning the tournament. But, you know, that's not as big of a storyline as the number one player in the world. But Riggs, I know you put it on the outline. Golf is cool.

That's a good shirt. Riggs he put on the outline his bunker shot. Like that was the shot of the day. Yeah. Amazing. It was cool that he did win the tournament with like a memorable shot that was getting going viral in the golf world on Twitter because that's a shot that, you know, those guys don't really end up with very often.

Like they have to, it either has to be the right type of hole, which the 16th hole there is like 3.15 somewhere around there. So guys were just really. driving drivers up near it, and he ended up in kind of a green side bunker and had a 40-yard bunker shot, which again, those guys are so good and managed their way around the course, it's rare for them to end up in that kind of spot because that's an awful spot to be in. And guys that are amateur golfers like us, even like some of the best players on tour, if you remember Kisner in the stramble match on the fifth ball at Pioneers number two,

he ended up in a horrible spot where he had like a 55-yard bunker shot. He said because we actually hit in there to 10 feet or so, he said, until you guys hit it close, I had a totally different player. I was just going to chop one onto the front of the green and two putt, but then when you guys were 10 feet, I had to try to hit it close, and it's just such a difficult shot. Kids ended up making bogey from there, even though he's chipping for Eagle from 50 yards, because it's such a hard shot. And this fucking guy, Michael Thompson, who's out there again, he's been a journeyman, he's got to be nervous. Tony Fienow's in the mix. He's trying to get his first win in forever, and he has this 40-yard bunker shot. And it comes out like it was

floating on a cloud so softly through the air, lands skips a couple of time, checks right and dribbles down to like a foot. And I just was, it was such a phenomenal shot. And I was glad for him that he was able to put at least some sort of kind of memorable iconic shot on the tournament and cap it off that way because it will be remembered for that,

which again, that shot for people like us is, that's just not awesome. I don't even know how you could begin to do that. Right. I agree. I never really thought about it in terms of the ball flight, but the ball flight was absolutely gorgeous. The thing I remember is that, like, it's that bounce, not full check, but like stop and then that beautiful little trickle down.

Yes. It's like one of the most beautiful things you could do to a golf ball. It's like, no, I don't want to be mean to it and like stop, stop and rip it back. I want to just like throw it up there in the beautiful clouds, have it drop down, land ever so gently, then stop and check up a little bit but nice. and then roll kindly to the hole. It was very nice to watch. Yeah, or, you know, the only way we can get lug is, like, a violent chunk and run that clearly misclunked and comes out and barely gets over the fringe and, like,

accidentally dribbles up over the hill to, like, 10 feet you make it, and it's a total miracle. But some guy tweeted at me that, like, yeah, you're over under. There's three and a half shots, and I think that's perfect. I think try to hit a 40-yard bunker shot, probably hit it 15 yards. So then you've got like a 50 footer on your next put. You could probably lag it to around six, 10 feet. And then it's like, can I make that put? That's pretty much what it comes down to.

But there's no way. Like three isn't even a guarantee from there. And he hit it up to, you know, a foot for a two from there. So it was awesome. Also, when you're playing with your buddies and like you're up around the green, you're kind of hoping that one of them hits a good shot because you get to like see the ball work on the green, it's usually your buddy just blades it and then off you go. And you're like, oh, it's good.

You just pick up for an eight. And now, like, I'll putt, I guess. Because you never really get to see it. It was beautiful. So congrats to him for a little staple on it. But, yeah, not much to the leaderboard, that's for sure. I've tried in that situation. I've tried, like, these guys talk about, oh, take like an eight iron and open it up, like, it's a sand wedge.

And then just hit it like a green side bunger shot. So I've tried that probably five times in my lap. I mean, it's just a heat-sinking missile. I forget which course. we were playing. But I think you were doing a rigs verse. And I wish I could remember that. I would love to go find it. But you were trying this eight iron punch out of the sand trap. And you flub the first one. And then I think you flub the next one. We're like, that shot's just, I don't have that. And I'll never have that. And that's just the way we go, because we don't

practice golf. We just play it and hope that our game is there. And it was just amazing because you're like, I'll work it through. A little eight iron, I'll just do this. And then boom, Flubbed the first one, like literally went like four and a half feet in the bunker. And I don't even think ever really got airborne. And then you tried it again. It was just as miserable. That's one like I saw one YouTube video, you know, like that just came up on accident through the scroll and it's like, yeah, try this if you ever have a 60 yard bunker shot.

No problem. And it's just not. You just can't do it. So anyways, him hitting that ball was very, very impressed. I wanted to get into. That's the hardest shot in golf, by the way, right? Like a 40 to 80 yard bunker shot? Not according to Bramble.

What does he say the hardest shot? As far as you can hit it straight. Like the hard shot off is perfectly straight. Yeah, I agree. But I'm just giving it. Because you can still play the game without hitting it perfectly straight and as hard as you can. So this is like a part of the game that you have to get the ball out of the bunker and you have to get on the green. I think that's the hardest shot.

I'm at the point when I don't think bunkers should be allowed. I don't think they should be able to put them on golf courses. I think no, green side bunkers I love. Get in there. I can take my crazy hacks at them. I can swing way too hard and way too fast and not fluid. I can still make something happen. I have no touch around fucking tight lie,

fairways, tight lie, fucking rough, all that stuff. Give me a bunker all day, but a fairway bunker? No. One of those nightmarish bunkers that are like layered where you got to go over a bunker in front of you? Come the fuck. That's the worst thing in the game. When there's a green side bunker up there,

but you kind of just dribbled it into like the bunker just in front of that one. And you've got to get it over the green side and on the green. That's that 40-yard shot is the hardest shot. Yeah, because it's the biggest guess in the game for us. The history of your swing. It's never been practiced, right? So it's like you're just kind of thinking you have a 28-yard bunker shot over this other bunker. And so you swing really hard.

and if you catch it just a little bit imperfectly, which we do almost every time, it's either gone or it's just in the bunker right in front of it, and the hole's over. It's just, yeah. I often think about what Lurch said about the, I don't know what putt it was,

and I don't even know if I was there, but you guys told the story where you hit it and you're just like, I didn't have a plan there. Like that's how I feel every time I step into a bunker. I feel much more comfortable in a fairway bunker because, like, you guys are saying, I feel like there's more room for air,

because I can just hit it straight. And if I hit it super hard, I'm just advancing it. But if I'm in a green side bunker and I fucking blade it and it's just gone, then I'm fucked. Is it more room for error or less room for error? I've often argued this. I think we may have debated on this show many months of you. When you're hitting something, let's say it's a very tight fair way. Do you have more room for error?

No, you have less. You have less room for error. You're taking the error and you're shrinking it down. But my point is that there's more room. for error now because there's more error around. Oh, I see. There's trees. There's now more room to make an error.

So here the way I would use it is say I'm in a fairway, if I'm in a fairway bunker, I have more room for error. But if I'm in a green side bunker, I have less room for error. But I understand what you're saying. Right. I'll just give credit to Frankie here. I think he's brought up something that's pretty compelling. No, but it isn't because it's just you could, like, it's, Like, it's, you're just looking at it from the other side.

Right. And so it's less room for error. You have more trouble. Because, like, you currently in your own body have a less, there's less mistakes that you can make. Yes. Because of the more trouble that is out there. You're speaking. But you're saying there's more.

You're speaking from a first person perspective. You're talking about yourself. So you have less room for error. It's not about what's out there. You have more room to make an. error and still have a good result. But I know what you're saying, and it's confusing. Yes, yes.

Because what if you're not talking about yourself? And what if the caddy's like, you want to go over that bunker, there's more room for error or there's less room for error over there? What happens there? Like, where am I hitting this? If you're saying your caties are like, no, throw it over that bunker because there's less room for error over there, that's just, that's a miss on the caddies part. Why?

Because. Trent was paralyzed right now. Because I get both sides of it, but I don't want to. I wish I only understood one side of it, you know? Like, I want to be yelling at Frankie being like, you're super wrong, you're dumb, but in fact, like, I see, I easily see both sides of it. I'm right. You're wrong.

You're small. I'm large. Yeah. Fucking Matilda. Yeah. Anyway, another thing I want to get to do is the PJ Tour and the COVID and comparing that to MLB and the COVID situation. PJ Tor has now, you know, there was, it wasn't that long ago that we were really sort of, um, chiming in in a very negative way.

Most people were about the fact that the tour had resumed. There were more positive COVID cases every week. Well, now there, you know, a couple months into this thing. And comparatively speaking to the MLB, who's been around for one weekend, a cup of coffee, as some people would say.

They love saying that. PJ Tour's looking very good. And a big part of that, a big part of that, you have to... Unless you step on a squeaky toy there? A big part of that is... I just took my...

Oh, shit. I wanted you to fucking fall right there. Let me cover this old ass chair. There you go. Sorry, Riggs, continue. Try not to step on that. Try not to step on that. Keep on.

They have to attribute it to our good friends at WOOP. Everybody on Tour now is rocking a Woot Band because this thing, this little magical band right here on your wrist, can do so many phenomenal things in terms of detournals. protecting what's going on with your body, your sleep, your recovery, your strain, all the way down to the fact that it can tell if you have the potential of you are showing signs of COVID symptoms with your respiratory rate, with your heart rate, with your breathing, because the woup band is that damn good. It's also they have really put out in the last few weeks, started with the JT

put. Yep. Live, heartbeats per minute, heart rate of, you know, golfers in key moments. John Rom had his going to, which is this live feature that comes with the app. That is a game changer. It's something we've been talking about for years that I think that we figured it would be available in maybe a decade, something like that. Like, oh, yeah, you smart people and engineers and whatnot go figure this out.

It's a cool idea. No, they've just figured it out already where they have a live look at the the heartbeat, the heart rate, the nervousness of these players in huge moments and their heart racing after they chip in like John Rock, it is so fucking cool that they're able to do that. And Whoop are also big supporters of us. We've all been rocking them. Here's what I'll say about Whoop. And it is cool to look at PJ Tours when you can, they're in these big moments and they're trying to make these chips of these puts. But for regular guys like us, what I'll say about it is I've been wearing it for like a month

and a half. And I just can't imagine going back to like not knowing the information that I now know. Like before I was blind, I didn't know how much sleep I was getting. I didn't know how much strain I was getting or how stressed I was. But now I can see how much sleep I get, what my recovery is like, what I need to do to try to get back into the green as opposed to being in the red, which is something you'll learn about once you get whoop. Like, just being, I'm just interested in that stuff. Like being able to have access to information about what I'm doing, even if I'm not the healthiest guy in the world, I sat out a podcast a week ago because I got too hot and I had 192 hearts heartbeat per minute but like I still like having the information and it's just

a cool thing it's an app on your phone you wake up oh how much REM sleep did I get how much you know what's my strain level going to be like today it's just the coolest thing that I've ever attached to my body I think and you know it's cool right because you wear it and people's like oh what's that on your wrist because it's not a watch it doesn't have the time on it it's not there's nothing going on there's no touchscreen everyone's like what are you wearing you're like well this thing analyzes my heart data my respiratory data. It tells me how much I sleep, how much I wake up in the middle of the night. It tells me my respiratory rate while I'm sleeping. It gives me data amongst all, like, it doesn't care about my steps. It cares about my heart strain and how strenuous I'm being on my body and how

much I'm, they're like, holy fuck, like, what are you doing? Like for you for a podcaster? And they're like, I'll compare. There's nothing that makes me feel less of a person and less of a human than when like my good friend like Brock Nelson will send me his strain for the day after he just did like two inner squad scrimmages, played around at like a men's club, and then fucking whatever. And then all of a sudden, I get mine. And he's a 19.2 strain. And I'm like, well, like, I'm a 4.3. And he sends me a screenshot that he woke up with a 4.6. So his strain actually, he was more strenuous walking out of his bed to get into his shower than I was my entire day. So there's nothing that makes me feel worse. But here's the thing I will say about this fucking thing,

is that it's a conversation started. Like, and every person I've talked to, and that's how I know what's cool. Every person I've talked to wants to know more about it. They look at the app. You show them that app, and you're like, this is my live data. This is me.

This is my heart right now. You want to see how hard my heart beating. What I did last night in my sleep, they're like, holy shit. And how did you get that thing on the Instagram story? Was that like a plug-in? What is that? No, no, that's something you can do.

And what he's talking about is like a live reading where you can do a video with your, your heart rate. Where do I find that? You go on the app. Go to this screen here, the main screen. And then in the top right, that camera, you press that, and it'll pop up. Holy shit.

How cool is that? I wish you could do it for your football highlight day. Holy shit. Yeah, I'm an 85 right now. Holy shit. There's so many cool features. It's just the greatest. So, look, this is a little reminder.

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I check it. I, you know, compare as soon as I wake up. I check how I slept, what my recovery level is because I become obsessed with this thing. It's very good feedback. It's very motivating because of things that Frankie just mentioned, where it gives you real-time feedback if you're being pathetic and makes you a better person. So whoop.com, code before for 15% off. But I did want to talk about the PGA tour, who is now looking better and better because

the MLB, who did not do, you know, a bubble, who, started three days ago is in a situation now where everyone's panicking, they're canceling games, are they going to cancel the entire season? And the PJ Tour, I think, deserves pretty good credit for really doing a pretty damn good job this far. They do. PJ Tour deserves credit. And I know we're talking about MLB in general, but the people we really need to be talking about are the Miami Marlins, who they're writing three guys tested positive on a Sunday night, and then they were one of the nights. And then they had like a meeting about, hey, should we still go out and play, even though three of our guys tested positive, and they were like, they all decided,

yes, let's go play. Like, that's something you can't do. I don't know, MLB can put all the protocols in they want, but if the teams aren't going to follow it, like, oh, I don't know how people test positive, and then you still decide to play. Horrible, but going back to the BJ tour, they do deserve credit. I was one of the people at the beginning all of this when Nick Watney tested positive and Cameron Champ tested positive. I think it ended up being a false positive. I thought the sky was falling. I was ready to shut down the tour, maybe never play the golf again, like never have sports again. But you watch these last couple weeks in this last month and a half and the PJ tour has had very few positive tests and the positive tests that they've had,

they've taken care of, and the tour just kind of rolls on. So in comparison to MLB, the PJ tour is in a fantastic place. One of the arguments that the MLB is using comparing them to the NHL and the NBA is that they're not in a bubble. They're like, well, and Jeter said this, I think in one of his statements, was, was like, well, we were fine during spring training 2.0 when we were all in Miami and we were just getting ready for this short in season. No, the second that we got into a plane went to Philly, our guys started to get sick. So it's like it's a matter of the travel and going from stadium to stadium, going into

locker rooms that other teams may have been in, whatever. But the argument against that could be that, like, there's a traveling circus of golfers that go from city to city and all the workers go from state to city and they make sure everything is done the right way. And these guys are still, like, we talk to a bunch of guys. guys that have been playing and they're like yeah some guys are going out to dinner and doing things that they want they probably shouldn't be but like we're all getting it done they're they're not in like a perfect bubble in golf they probably should be but like they're still

human beings like some guys are meeting up with other guys in rooms and having drinks or whatever so like they could still be done just whatever the MLB is doing like you can't use that as an excuse that PGA is doing the same thing they're traveling from city to city and doing it so figure it out the one thing is that like each golfer is pretty much like one baseball team So there's just so many more moving parts with team sports. I guess so. You're just, there's more risk in the equation. True.

I mean, yeah, the Marlins, you can't defend them. Yeah, no, no. But that's true. But all the other sports, the teams were to look at it, or NHL and NBA, they were like, all right, let's do a bubble then. And that's how you do it when you have a team sport. And it was like, no, no, no, we're going to go city to city. When I think everyone looked at that and was like, that's the bad idea.

I understand what you're saying where there is way more moving parts with baseball teams as opposed to golfers, but the initial thought should have been, all right, then let's do a bubble, let's not travel. Yeah. You know, the reports that I've seen is that the MLB actually couldn't sell their players association to agree to a bubble because it's not just a playoff thing or it's like a full season, so or not full, but it's a season, right? So it's longer than just a playoff situation and that the players association. So it's probably a little bit unfair for then like MLB, like big MLP to get all the heat when there isn't to go. and you have to come to these different agreements.

So the point is, I think, like, yes, it does not look good when you have this big of an outbreak. It's definitely not good when the Marlins people tested positive. They said, screw it. We're just going to play. And then you have a much larger outbreak within the organization. That all looks horrible. What really stinks about it is that it's going to be bad news, a bad indicator for, you know, NHL, for NFL. Everybody's, you know, people are tweeting out gifts of like Roger Goodell freaking out and panicking

because, you know, with MLB starting back up and looking this badly, how are they now going to fire up other seasons, the NFL, college football, all that. So it's a bummer. It stinks. I think in a lot of places, like in New York, you know, I feel like we felt like we got through it to a degree of like, oh, phase one, phase two, reopening. And these are sort of constant reminders when stuff like this happens that we're not it at all that it's still there it's still very prevalent it's still going to be a massive detriment

to a lot of the things that we consider normal and that sucks and it also reminds me that the pj tour overall has done a pretty damn good job i think which they deserve credit to the bubble i love the bubble i think the bubble is a really good idea um i've gotten some like like you know views on it from the inside and i think that they're doing it the right way the nchl and the NBA i mean I don't know about the NBA, but I know the NHL, like, guys just got there. And they're like, if we all test positive, if we all test negative and we get into this bubble, they've set it up in the way that we will not get it. No one will get it.

We're going from the hotel room to the arena and back. That's all we're doing. You don't even walk outside. There's tunnels that go from, you know what I mean? Like, you're never, ever at risk. You're legitimately in a bubble. So that's just, like, the perfect way to do it. If you want to get it done, you just get it done that way.

And I think not to, like, talk about where I thought the whole country should have done, But at some point, like, you have to get it all done at once, right? All the NHL is staying inside and they're just not going to get it. If they do what they're supposed to do. So, and I think with like the MLB, it's like you're like with Lerkes are saying, there's so much more risk when you have so many more people that like these guys, you know, they're, I think they're sleeping at home, right? They're not like in hotels and stuff.

They're just like MLB players just at home, right? So like with their families and stuff. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I'm pretty sure they are. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they are. So it's like there's so much risk with that. Like, obviously guys are going to start getting it.

The numbers are astronomical right now. People are just still getting the fucking coronavirus. We're like, we're still getting the coronavirus. It's crazy. Like, you were talking, I was just thinking of this like coronavirus era. And I was like, what the hell? Think about what? Think about this.

I went to a buddy's house to play games. I went to a buddy's house to play games. What? I said you, I thought you were talking about the White House. No, no. We'll cut that. I went to... What?

I don't know. That was crazy. I went to a buddy's house in the beginning of quarantine. Like maybe that first Friday where everyone was like, oh, maybe we shouldn't go out. Like, everyone was, like, afraid that if you walk into someone else's house, the place is going to burn down. You were like, ah, this is crazy. We were still at work kind of, like, that Tuesday, Wednesday.

So I went there. I'm like, you know, we're going to be fine. Whatever. I remember sitting in that house being like, there's no chance this is still around in July and August. Like, like, we're going to be going to weddings. Like, oh, like, my friend's going to get married in August. That's fine. Like, there's no chance. And it's arguably worse right now. The numbers are actually just as bad as that day. And that's crazy to me. When you guys were making fun of me the first time when I came up there and I was sanitizing my hands from being on the subway,

I mean, that sounds like. Think about that being on the subway. I also give a shout to my, to my, to my close friend and brother in arms is YP, Young Page's Ben Friedman. I gave that kid's shit. He was calling this thing COVID-19, like the scientific term, back in January. He's like, man, COVID-19 is no joke. I'm like, stop calling it COVID-19. Like, who the hell do you think you are? Like, you think you're this fucking outdoors guy that knows everything about viruses.

He's like COVID-19. He was like, telling, he was like going to get a jersey. It's like COVID-19. They're the destroyers. Like, they're the ones that are fucking, this thing's coming, man. I'm telling you. I'm like, what are you talking about? He had a map up on his laptop in January.

I'm like, there's no chance. No chance. Frank, do you remember Ebro on radio? When he... Yes. Yes. Dude, we were... This, like, the first time...

He said stock up on rice bread and milk. He said, like... In February. Dude, he said, you guys don't get it. It's not that it's going to kill everyone right away. It's going to mess up all the supply chains. Things are going to get shut down. It's going to fuck up the whole country from a totally different angle than you guys think.

You don't imagine. And we, like, we have to... I laughed in his face. We're like, what a preposterous segment. We apologize to the listeners. We don't want to be scared, fear mongering over the virus. Like, chill out. We were, I walked into the studio after.

I was like, bro, you got to get a beer or something, dude. Jesus, chill out. He's the most right person that maybe I've ever heard from. I would love to get an update on Ebro right now. First of all he's probably jacked to oblivion. That dude's so fucking fit. And him working out, like, in his house all day, probably for the last four months. I can't imagine what Ebro looks like.

Also, I doubt he's never going to hear us talking about this because he's just like a serious X-Sept employee. He doesn't actually work for Barcelona sports. If someone could get this to Ebro, that'd be great. Like, I love Ebro. I want to be in the control room with them again. But, man, it's crazy that, like, and, yeah, I don't know how we got onto this topic and how it's just been crazy,

but it's like, I just don't know how much longer this fucking thing to go around. I just can't wrap my head around it. Like, NFL's not going to, NFL's going to be dealing with this shit. We're not having fans in the NFL game all season long. Are we going to go to a concert ever again? I would say, ever again. This time next year, I'll be surprised if we're not still dealing with this in almost the same manner. Because...

Come on. No chance. And I don't want to say no chance. I take that back because I've said that before. That would be absolutely bat-shit crazy. They got to get a vaccine or nothing changes. It doesn't... The virus doesn't just become less contagious because we...

like did a pretty good job for three months. It just not, it just doesn't do it. If it's this much once, twice, millions of times, it's just going to spread again. Why would it change? It doesn't change. It's just going to keep spreading. It's not like we have a ton of herd stuff. So herd immunity and all that. Like it's just going to continue to spread every time. I will just not believe that. Like I understand the logic behind that. Like that's fine. The logic does like, it makes sense. But I will, I refuse to believe that. And I won't. I won't live in that world because if I live in that world, I mean, first of all, I won't break a hundred in my golf game ever

because I'll just be thinking about how miserable this world is. I just, yeah, I'll just block that out. Yeah, no, he's, I mean, I think a lot of, the country's starting to divide a little bit on like what is real about it, what's not. People are, oh, you think that's starting to happen now. Well, like, I think people are, well, no, but like, like, the actual, like, Prove it.

It's been happening since the beginning. I guess it's been happening from beginning. Like, I'm really starting to see it now where everyone's like, well, at this point, like we need to fucking do stuff, right? Like how much longer can this fucking go on? And also, you know, to that point,

we don't know the fucking answers. No one knows if you can get it twice. No one knows how it even fucking, if it's in the outside or inside or how it even, no one knows anything. How does science not know the answers yet? Like, how do science? What are you doing, science?

Like, just find the answers. How do you... All of science is trying to figure this out, right? They're done with, like, the laboratories and the mice running around, right? You would assume every scientist and doctor is, like, working on this, right? Like, they have to be. Big science is focused on one thing. You should be on the case if you work in the science industry.

And they can't figure it out. No, yeah. It's definitely, obviously, a very frustrating time in the world. And I just can't believe that it's almost... August. Like that's what stuns me. This whole 2020 has been at times the longest year, but also the shortest year. It's just very strange. Like the fact that the calendar is about to flip and it's going to be August when, you know, March feels like five years ago, but it doesn't feel that long ago at the same time. It's just a very confusing time. And I, I don't have any answers that

we want, but it's just like, I don't know where we go. It's just a very strange time. It's the strangest time. It is a one, one in a hundred years pandemic that we're just going through. I'm sure people are listening probably were just like, man, these guys, it's like they just found out that we're going through a pandemic with that but I think it's just everybody's feelings.

The baseball thing is just like because the only reason we're talking about this is because the baseball thing is just like re it's like reigniting like how quickly this thing can spread and like how I guess like how like not weak, but like we can just break, like everything that we build can break so fast,

how fragile everything that we build is, especially like professional sports league, the fact that one fucking dumb decision by the Miami Marlin to not withhold their players and just make sure everyone's quarantined and just go by the rules just to have it fucking done. And they played this game now. Now we're facing the fact that the MLB could not go on for the rest of the season, right? Like the Yankees aren't playing tonight.

They're saying that the other Phillies can't. get tested now for three more days so their next three games may get canceled and if those guys all have them from playing against the marlins then that's going to be a shit show because whoever they've talked to the last year it's just like it's so fragile and i understand that's been happening for the last four or five months but fuck man it's like this is just such an awakening it's like wow like we finally got sports back i sat down watching the yankees and now i can't watch them no because of this fucking virus is still going and i think my restaurant is still not 100% we're just still fucking sitting people outside it's like it's crazy man yeah yeah

And I think on this show, specifically, we've done our best not to talk about it all day, every day. Because when this all first started, I think if you go back and listen to those first pandemic episodes, it's probably the only thing we talk. We were just like, when are we all going to see each other again? What do you think is going to happen with this? And then you can only talk about that for so long before you're like, all right, we got to talk about something else that's going on. But like you said, Frankie, the MLB has reignited the conversation about the spread. So it's just, yeah, it's kind of in the forefront of everybody's mind right now. It sucks, man. It sucks. I got home Saturday in St. Louis for the first time since Christmas.

And it was like my instinct was, yeah, I wanted to go to a few of our favorite restaurants and a few of our favorite bars with my buddies and like meet us here. And it was like, no, actually St. Charles County, which is where we're from is like spiking really badly. People were starting to get really scared again to go out. Then the MLB news breaks. And it's like, no, the world just isn't that's not, you know, compatible with what's like. going on in the world and it sucks. It really sucks. And you're right. DMLB thing kind of reignited that in everybody's minds, which stinks. But look, we got to go off to talk about. There are some positive things out there. One of them is this idea of an electric bike for getting around town. Now, we are all in normal situations living in Manhattan, getting around

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Lurges actually played Harding Park. So we're in a shirt right now. Wow, nice touch. Great touch. Shout out Mark. Shout out Mark Cohen. Shout out Mark Cohen. Why?

Why? Because he fucking sings walking in Memphis. I know you guys are thinking about the Mark Cohen that used to work at Barstall Sports. Yes, I am. I see it's a little wordplay. Mark Cohen used to be one of our, what was his title?

He was the guy that just... Programming... Programming director or something. He used to tell us to tweet out clips at 6.32 p.m. and keep it organic. But here's the other thing. He always just wanted us to be organic. Listen, if you could fire up some organic conversation at 947, that'd be fucking great. Mark was a great dude, though.

I actually really enjoyed Mark Cohen's time at bars. I thought he was a very funny dude because he took that job very seriously. He was like a character out of the office. I do like Markone. I wish it was. The other Mark Gohn is Walking in Memphis. So, you know, shout out to that. We're playing to Memphis.

Every time I hear the term Memphis, the word Memphis, I think of the song Walking of Memphis. I'm a lot of you guys do as well. It's just such a, like that place only exists because of that song to me. From the gallery, Forplay of Barclosports. That's how he submitted. Just email us for play at barclosports.com. We're going to start with Max.

Max says you are 100 through 17 holes. you never shot under par in your life. You're on the 18th T-box. Your pregnant wife slash girlfriend, whichever one, calls you and says, her water broke, you must come get her to the hospital right away. Do you play the 18th Bowl? Yes.

I say, absolutely. I say yes, and I'll tell you why, because there's two reasons why. One, I think it's not going to take that long to play the 18th bowl, and there's enough, like, deniability there were like the timelines. You could say like you called me as soon as I was walking off the 18th green. Like that is so that's very believable. And the time is only going to be like 15, 20, 20, 25 minute difference. And so I think you definitely do it. And the other reason is like, what a

great story down the line. And maybe it causes your, your divorce or you break up with the girl years down the line because you're like, hey, remember when you're water broke and you called me? I actually proceeded to play one more golf before I came to help you. And that's either going to be a very funny story. She's going to be very mad at you, but it's still like a great story. So I think you do it. I don't know, dude. I think that's a tough one, especially when you bring in the kid into play. Like anything else, I'm kind of on your side, but when you're like, oh, kind of funny story, we broke up, but we have a kid too because I decided to play the 18th old. I don't know if I'm going to with you on that one. I think I drive in and then I come back and I play it later.

pathetic, I know, but I think that's, yes. I don't think, wait, what? No, I don't think that's. You can't do that. Yeah. You know, play it a month or later? Like, I mean, what's wrong with you? Play it in a couple days.

Well, then, I mean, didn't Rick, didn't you go in at Piner's number two and then come back out and play 18? Did that happen? I think it did. But I would say, no, I did. I couldn't find my ball in the dark. But I will say, I think that your flexibility is a little limited. when you have a newborn child, and it's probably going to be much tougher to get back out there.

Fair. But I'm with Trent. I think everything Trent sets perfect. I 100% play it because no one's going to, no one's going to be able to debunk your storyline. You're like, yeah, yeah, no, as soon as I got the call, we were just finishing and I came in, and if it's a 15-minute difference,

I'm not a doctor, but that's not going to be like a, we're not facing a life or death situation here on the water rope. I mean, yeah, I'll be there whether I'm there in 30 minutes or like 42 minutes because I played the 18th hole. I don't think that really changes anything, and I can shoot under bar, so I'm just playing 18. Playing fast,

I'll give her that. I'm playing really fast. I also guess, you're also playing golf on the day that, like, her water could break, right? And she knows that. She knows that you're there.

She's calling you to alert you that her water broke. So it's not like it would be out of the question that you are golfing while her water was breaking, right? Like, she knew that fact going into that round. So at the end of the day, I think you're just like, all right, yeah, like, I'm on my way. And you are on your way.

You're walking, you're going towards the clubhouse. You're finishing up. I mean, you can play it real quick. You also got to, like, what's your composure going to be like on that 18th hole? Like, you're playing so well. And now you're, like, if you were. I love to see the whoop on that. Yeah.

Yeah, because, like, I mean, maybe you don't want to play that last full. And one of the reasons is, like, you're going to fucking play terrible because you're not going to be thinking about playing at all. You're going to be like, my wife. We are about to, you know, a life is about. My wife. My wife. Nice. Borat.

Yeah? All I'm saying is I stick by my first answer, but like, what's your mindset going to be like playing that 18 full? You might make a fucking 11. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. So I'm just doing it.

I don't know that it's going to go particularly well, but you got to play 18. You're there. You're posting that. And it's a better story at the end. I don't think it's life or death, but I'm not. Michael says, am I the only person? person in the world mixing up fast versus slow greens. This is actually kind of reminded me earlier when we were having the margin of air discussion. He says, for example, a 10-foot par puttut on a

slow green will get to the hole much faster than the same put on a fast green. So my brain mixes the two up. Am I an idiot for this? What the fuck are you talking about? I don't understand the question. That doesn't make sense. I responded to the email and I said, what the fuck are you talking about? And then I thought about it more. And what he's saying is, if a green is what we call slower, you hit the ball harder. And so it goes, it actually gets to the hole on a timeline quicker because it goes quicker and then stops quicker. Whereas if you have a faster green, you actually get there slower because the ball,

takes longer to get there because it rolls quicker. That's so much more of a stretch. You're not saying the ball is moving. This guy's an idiot and you're an idiot for listening to him. Damn. Damn, bro. But I actually agree with that sentiment. Because I don't, because I've never looked at it that way.

It's never about the ball. It's about green. You're saying the green is fast. The green is slow. You're not saying the ball is going to move fast on this slow green. You're not fitting in all those words. How is this guy that confused? He's like, ah, the confusion.

I can't. I'm mixing it up so often. I think you just solved it for him. I think that's right. I think he's, yeah. I mean, I do feel good because I did email and say, what are you talking about? Okay, yeah.

So that definitely, but yeah, I don't. Just don't make it as complicated. You do? I like making things complicated. No, I like making things complicated. I like trying to look into things that we often do in this world and try and see another side of it, just like margin of error.

But I think this is a huge myth. That's making things complicated. Complicated. That's just the one way to try to say the word first. Complicated. Complicated. He is just making it more complicated. That's it.

And you just got to simplify it. I'm the opposite. What was that? What was that? Stipify? What was that? I'm no longer one to speak about this question. uh

Logan says how the four man scramble do against Tiger Woods I'm gonna just start and say that I think we would lose because we would all be so flustered and rattled a bottle.

I think we beat them I do too I can't yeah right you guys don't believe that I I think our brains as one collective brain

will allow us to not be a star-struck like halfway through. Like I think after a hole or two, we know that we're playing against Tiger Woods and it could be the biggest moment of our lives if we beat him, right? Like that would be crazy if you beat Tiger Woods in a scramble.

The only reason I kind of side with Riggs's point on this is because I remember when we played with Kevin Kisler and Pioneer's number two and I found myself just watching him. I would just look over there, be like, it's amazing what he can do to a golf ball. So now imagine replace Kevin Kisner. Tiger Woods. I'm like, I'm going to forget what hole we're on and I'm just going to like

completely lose focus and you all of us are going to be looking over there being like, can you believe Tiger Woods is here? And the focus just isn't going to be there. Agreed. And I just, like, I remember the hardest moments to me were early on with kids when we were still jittery and nervous that we were playing with kids and he was right there and he was kind of judging us. And imagine that's now Tiger fucking Woods. Like, We couldn't even speak to the man when he stood next to us and asked us about where we're stationed, and we're going to now be able to stand up there and, like, hit, like, touchy little chip shots and sick irons and rip drives down the middle.

Like, what are we talking about here? We wouldn't even be able to control our bodily functions, and we're going to play golf against this man? Also, he's just light ears better at golf than Kevin Kis. Yes. So that aspect is, like, we beat Kiz by a couple strokes. and then we're all of a sudden going to play Tiger Fucking Woods. I may be switching a little bit on this one, but, you know, beat us and right now we're undefeated,

so you have to beat us to get my confidence down. Yeah, we are now going to play the greatest player of all time, so that's probably a factor. We haven't even mentioned that yet that he is just probably. That's right. Should be a huge factor in this. Yeah, that could be pretty big. Austin says, what's the consensus on golf towels used?

He said his system is one clean, towel for sweat and wiping his face, that kind of stuff, and another for cleaning his clubs and ball, which he never really washes. And this brought up a question to me, like, when you see someone walk out to the putting green or to the green on a hole, and you see them with like the towel over their shoulder thing, you view that as like a hard-o movie? I'm not a big, I'm not like a really big sweat guy because I, number one, use oars and alps. And number two, like I don't ever find myself like having to constantly wash my face off when I'm playing. I think it's because I'm just like a little bit of a softer,

delicate body that I don't precipitate as much. So I don't ever like really do the towel around the neck, the towel over the shoulder. I mean, I think that's for more of a hefty guy. I'm not looking at you, Trent. It's just you're on the screen. Yeah. All right.

Trent needs one right in between where his neck and his shoulder. No, no. less because it just gathers so much of a pool of sweat that he needs something there so that, you know, the collars don't get wrinkled and all that stuff. It's a fucking, it's a functionality thing more than anything. First of all, that's not true. What you're saying isn't true. I don't take a towel out to me, tally me out to the greens. That never happens.

To the guy's first question, I use the same towel for everything out there. I have one towel on my golf bag and I'm wiping my face. I'm wiping my clubs. I'm wiping my ball on it. Whether or not that's the right thing to do, that just happens to be what I do. I don't see the point of having a bunch of towels out there. Because if I had a bunch of towels,

I would just end up using them for everything again. So I just have one towel. A ton of towels. You've got ton of towels out there. Right. So to be efficient, I just have one towel and I wipe everything with it, including my body.

I don't know if that answers a question or not. I thought I would add this one because sometimes I do view that as like a little bit like all right chill out but being back in the Midwest is Trent knows in the in late July right now it's Saturday afternoon it was if you didn't have a towel out there you weren't wiping down your hands counsel like you'd just be firing like lurch was in Atlantic City like you'd be firing clubs into trees and stuff because it gets so sweaty and it's just uncomfortable you want good you want good grip you want want to feel confident. You want to feel like you can put as much pressure on everything. And if you can't, it's so fucking uncomfortable. So I think everybody's got a little different system. I didn't necessarily want to get in everybody's towel system. But just more people thought it was to be the guy that rolls out there with an extra towel. What about you fellow big man? What do you do? I kind of just wipe with my shirt, if I'm being honest. Okay. You know, a little quick one,

something like that. Are you sweaty person? Very. My hands are sweating right now. Sometimes my feet sweat. Actually, one time in college, I was wearing crocks. I was sitting behind some girl, and I just was like, I could feel that my feet were starting to sweat. And I was like, oh, damn it. And they were under this girl's desk, and she was like, what's that smell?

And I knew it was my feet, and I got so self-conscious and I pulled my feet back. Wait, wait, wait, your feet sweat so much that it activates a, smell. Like, I think if my feet were sweaty, they would just, like, I would know that they were damp, but it wouldn't transfer to anybody else. I don't think a smell would start to permeate off of them. Oh, no. Dude. Well, so they're in the crock. They stink, bro. Yeah, they're in the crocs. So, like, you're just like, and I just knew when you know, you know, and I knew it was me. Okay. I feel like, I'm with Trent, like, that stench usually stays with the sock or with the shoe, but not like permeating up out of the shoe into people's desks?

Well, they're crocs. There's holes in the rubber. You think this is the crocs vault? No, I'm just saying, you know, my feet start to get warm. They start to sweat. They might be mixing against the rubber. There might be old sweat in there, not to get too gross, right? And now we got a scent.

And now we got an issue. And now I got a girl turning around in the middle of class saying, what's that smell? then I have to be like, I don't know. I don't know, lady. Turn around. Look at the freaking finance board. Crocs, man. What an era.

Oh, yeah. This is a good shoe. I've never worn them, but like, they were popular there for a minute. That's a good shoe. I'm not anti-Crocks. I've never worn them, but I'm not anti-Crox. That's a good show. That's close, but no cigar.

I want to, I just want to say the origin story. That was a Frankie's fact. I tried to get that word. I tried to say the term close-me-no cigar in the last five minutes or so because I found the fact that I wanted to say, and I just ended up flirting it out just there in silence. Just close-binose cigar. Anyway, in the late 19th century, this is actually pretty interesting.

In the late 19th century, carnival games were targeted towards adults, not children, so the winners would get a cigar as a prize instead of a stuffed animal. So if you came close to winning the prize at the carnival, they'd say, ah, close, but no cigar. That one, I believe. I believe that one. Pretty interesting, because I've actually said that, I actually typed that term in because someone

had said it to me yesterday. I'm like, oh, I wonder if that has an interesting origin story. That was a real-life, Frankie fact that someone said the word to me, and I looked it up, so there you go. It's sort of morph now because, I mean, I get that that's the origin, and that can't change, but like when a championship team wins, when they win, they smoke cigars. So that's sort of probably what most people think.

but that's strange that carnival games were geared towards adults, not children back in the day. That makes me feel weird. It could be wrong, you never know. I'm not going to look it up, I believe it. Yeah, we would never, I mean, why would it be wrong? That's impossible. Yep.

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and support us it helps really quick and i know i just did a frankie fact but i know we're about the end of the show i want to give one more that i learned at the um is and our executive building by that guy who came with the building basically he's been there probably for 200 years and he just knows all the facts and stuff. He's showing us this one armoire, I guess is the word for it, and it's older than the country, he was saying. It was hand-built and handcrafted and Ulysses as Grant and all these people, and Abraham Lincoln had this armoire and his office and stuff,

whatever, some pass around. And there's this name inside there, Josephus Daniels. And he tells a whole story about how he's like a historian. And this guy's like, no, you know who Josipus Daniels is. And he's like, I don't know who Josephus Daniels is. Like, how do I not know this name? And the guy's like, you should know the name. And he goes into it, whatever.

And the long story shortened is that Josephus Daniel was the Secretary of the Navy in 1913. Now, that may not seem like something everyone should know or everything is sorry should know. But Josephus Daniels was put in place to prohibit alcohol aboard naval vessels and would lead them more towards coffee consumption. So whenever Josephus Daniels would come in, he'd stop them from drinking, and it was during Prohibition, he would stop them from drinking on these naval vessels. And when he would leave, right, and they would be stuck with just coffee,

all these Navy officers and stuff, they would all cheer and say, our cup of Joe, Josephus Daniels Cup of Joe. So that has been often known as the Cup of Joe. I was hoping that's where that was going to end. As soon as you started talking about coffee, I was like, I hope this ends a cup of Joe. Yeah, it was like out of spite.

Like, ah, a fucking cup of Joe. All the sailors were not happy with the stuff that he had made on their vessel and they're like a fucking cup of Joe. I have, that's good. I have one last White House question for you. Did you think about any like national treasure movies while you were in there? Like what, like, did you think about that at all? Totally.

Okay. Totally. I was in the place where they know if aliens exist. I constantly thought about that. I thought about if there was some sort of folder or file or a laptop or a door that you can open up and something. You know, it's just, it's a really, really crazy place. How many eyes do you think we're on you at any given moment? There were a ton of eyes on us, man.

Because you're just seeing the people that are in the room. How many people are in the back room with a security camera as being like, what's he doing over there? Lot eyes. A lot eyes. I answered a FaceTime inside the West Wing, and I think that probably was... What are you doing? I can't believe you got serviced. What a great...

Someone FaceTime you answered. I'm like, I'm in the White House. The only person who... The only FaceTime you would... I thought you would answer in the White House would be Dave Portnoy, but you're with Dave Portnoy. You know, he was still in the Oval. We were at, like, they were finishing up, whatever, doing something, and I was cleaning up and leaving the area, because they said that my time there was done,

I'd never be back, basically. They're like, you just have to go. Your time in this building is no longer, and you're just gone. And I was sitting in, like, the waiting area. And one of the guys, like, literally on the other side of the West Wing, like inside the West Wing, right when you first walk in, the guy was just sitting there on, like, a stool just watching the Yankee game. It was pretty fucking cool.

He was just like a secure, it was like, I guess, a Secret Service guy. And I just, I was sitting on a couch, and I just answered a FaceTime. I don't know. Someone just happened to FaceTime me, and I just was like, I'm in the White House right now. And they're like,

well, shit. God damn, that's crazy. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I think those are all, I think that's all my White House questions. I think that's all I got. Oh, Trent, I got a question for you. This is going to put you on blast a little bit.

Oh, okay. I played with Captain Conn's this weekend. Yeah. Nice guy. Anyways, he's like, you know, I gave Trent a gift a couple years ago. And he never really thanked me for it.

And I was just wondering if he ever got it. And then he was like, I know that he got it because in a recent picture, I think Donnie, Donnie's role took a picture of you and you've got this nice photograph of where you stationed with Tiger and the whole bit right over here. Yep.

And, you know, Conn's just said, hey, would you mind asking Trent, you know, if you ever got the photo? And why no. Oh, my goodness. Why no, thank you. I, you know, I thought about that. I wrote you a note and he didn't get anything back from us.

I, yeah. Yeah, no, he did. He put that on my desk and I've seen the note. He's a veteran. Wait, let me, let me just set the stage here for all the listeners. Captain Kahn is a veteran of the United States Army, right? Is he an Army guy? He's Army, right?

Oh, wow. You're going to give him props and then forget what he is. Army guy. Army Ranger, Captain Kahn's boots on the ground. Army officer. That's what he called. Army officer. Army officer, Captain Kahn's.

He had boots on the ground. The guy has fought for our country, and he is a... Okay. He is a wonderful human being who will get people gifts just because of the goodness of his heart. And he's just wondering, Trent, why you didn't thank him when he gave you a gift? I just wanted to set the stage for all those listening.

This is a veteran of the United States Army we were talking about that Trent did not answer the question that he... Okay, go ahead. I'll add a little bit. It was a framed photo of you guys all with Tiger on the green. Wow. Very special. And this,

Captain Kahn's wrote a note saying, Hey, Trent, yada, yada, yada. Handwritten? Yeah, handwritten. I wish we had a whoop on Trent right now. He's hard. Here's what I'll say. Here's what I'll say, because I've been in the office a couple times,

and I did. I see it. And I always tell myself mental note, like, definitely text cons and be like, thank you for this, because otherwise it's going to become a thing, which now it clearly has. But then here's the real story is that the other day when Donnie tweeted that picture at me and being he was just behind me and the picture was in it. And I tweeted that picture out.

And then cons responded to me, the tweet being like, oh, wow, that's a really, that's a really good looking picture there. Whatever. That, that I don't like. That if you're trying to, you're trying to make me say thank you for a gift, I get stubborn and I don't want to do it anymore. So question, how long ago was the gift given? I think, I mean, I don't know when he put it in there because we haven't been in the office that much, but I saw it like a week ago, I guess. Okay, so it's only, you've only been aware of it for a week because I will say,

I think Kahn's is in the right for like a jab of a gift if he gave it to you like six months ago and there's still enough. Yeah, I thought this was like a Christmas thing. No, well, he might have put on my desk a couple months ago, but I only saw it in the office like a week ago, honestly. Okay. All right. But what I wanted to say, and this is the part of my personality that I don't love,

when he tweets at me being like, that's a nice photo on your desk, that makes me dig my heels in like, you're not getting a thank you. I agree. That's fine because I think there's a buffer line there of like, if I got the gift five months ago, cons is in the right. But if you were only aware of the gift a week ago, there's still a little leeway to get your thank you.

I would say two weeks. I've seen it two weeks, max. Like that I saw on my desk. You got to give people time to process what's going on, even remember that they're saying. You thought about it. I sent one of my buddies something over the weekend, and I knew it got to his house. And I was like, hey, I genuinely wanted it. I know if it got there.

And I was like, hey, did you happen to get a package this weekend? And he's like, oh, yeah. Like, I'm traveling this weekend, but I definitely saw it as I was leaving. I definitely saw it, like, before I opened it. So thank you. I meant to thank you. I was going to thank you when I opened it. So that was like, I,

probably messaged him too early, but I genuinely wanted to know if it got there to see if, like, the shipping went through or whatever. But, like, I did feel bad. I felt like I put him on the spot by making him back to him that message. I told him, like, you didn't have to thank me right there. I just wanted to make sure. I'm probably in the wrong. I don't know now. I think you had time. Yeah, there's a little bit. I see both sides. This is one where I understand. I thought this was, like, fucking years ago, like, from the old office or something, you'd have and thank him. Like, no. And that's where I was like, Conz is totally in the right. by chirping, you'll be like, hey, where'd you get that phone up if you hadn't said thank you in six months?

Well, he's, I think he listens to this show, so he's probably going to hear this. So maybe I'll send him a thank you, you know, within the next 24 hours or so. We'll see. Say, too, that I was, like, throwing out terms that he was, like, a ranger. He was a, you know, he's a captain in the Army. It's like, he's a West Point guy. That's why we called Captain Conner. So I don't know why I could have just been wrong about the other, like, titles I was giving him.

He's clearly captain in the Army. Yeah, that's just what he was. He's got to cut. Yeah. We just didn't, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know?

And he probably deserves to thank you for a lot of reasons. Yeah, yeah. I'll thank him for his service, not for the picture. Thank you for your service. All right, folks. That's it from us. We'll be back, as always, on Thursday for our second show. Thank you to Chapton, Kate, too,

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