Fore Play - “Credentialed Report” Live From Shinnecock

Episode Date: June 14, 2018

We are live and credentialed from Shinnecock Hill. Riggs was inside the ropes for the Wednesday practice round with Kisner, Chappell and List. Trent was at Rory's presser. Did he get in a question?�� How's the course playing? What's the buzz in the media center? We've got a report on EVERYTHING from being credentialed at the U.S. Open!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay presented by Barr Stool Sports. We are in Shinnock, Shinnock Hills. We are, I don't know, a couple hundred yards from the golf course. It's a stone's throw. We are very close. We're a 9-iron away from the golf course.

Yep. Frankie just got here. Just walked through the door. So this is going to be a very interesting show. We've been credentialed now for two days at the U.S. Open Unlike any other experience you've ever seen. Frankie's going to probably be pretty inquisitive. Like, what the hell has this been like?

What am I getting myself into tomorrow? It's Wednesday night of U.S. Open week. A lot of shit's going on, a lot of storylines. The golf course has been a massive star. We've basically had our way with the golf course, we'll do whatever the hell we want, which we're going to get to. We're going to get to all these things.

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He's had a good couple first days. I don't know if we've even told Hags that, but we just told them now. It's hard to come in and have a better couple of days. He's been on top of his shit. You brought fucking gifts. Yep. On top of shit, he's whipping up videos like some sort of wizard.

Yep. So it's been great. Hags is awesome. We'll see if the sound audio comes out now. That would be really, really fantastic. But anyways, we got here Tuesday. We drove up from the city. Get here Tuesday evening.

You know, it's like your credentialed and you kind of think, okay, like that'll be, that'll be a little bit of a step up of an experience. Yeah, we don't have any idea what it's like to even like sniff credentials. So we know what it's like. like to definitely not be credentialed. And you just figure your quality of tournament viewing will be turned up just a little bit if you get credentials. I don't think I can ever go back to watching a tournament not credentialed.

It's great. Frankie, it's insane. I see the credential is literally hanging off of Trent's neck right now. It's like 11 o'clock in night. You have not taken it off. I refuse to take this thing up. I can't imagine.

I'm going to sleep in this thing tonight. Frankie, you can basically like hit a fucking T shot with credentials. They just let you do it every one. Well, the funny thing about credentials so far that we have is we have an act. asked anybody in terms of like what are the limits of these credentials because we don't want to know that was going to be my main question like there has to be a level of credentials there has to be a credential where like you can just walk into the fucking clubhouse there has to be a credential where you can like literally walk like anywhere have we reached our limit yet of where like these this brown or whatever color we may have as of right now we have not been turned away from anything nothing that's insane we've just done legitimately whatever we wanted so we arrived on tuesday evening um You know, it took us a while to find our lot. There's some traffic. We finally find the lot.

We're excited. We roll over. We get right through security. No problem. It's like, I don't know, 6.30 p.m. Yeah, you have that deterrent. So everyone else is leaving or gone from the golf course. It's a beautiful evening.

We enter the golf course. We walk right into the media center, which is just this massive room. It's a pristine room with large TVs and huge TVs from the pictures. I've seen. Biggest fucking TV is ever seen. You know, you got, even just having like a home base somewhere

where you have like outlets and somewhere to blog. Yeah, at a certain point I was like, my, I need to charge my phone. It's going to die. And Riggs is like,

there are outlets in every single corner and every single crevice of this room. Yeah. Because there's so many things. There's outlets. There's like, um, um,

power surge things everywhere with, with endless outlets just coming out of the walls. And it should, I guess it should also be noted that we are coming from the last major we were at was Augusta, where you came. can't have your phones at all no matter who you are true so now it's like we get to have our phones all the time because everybody does and we also get to have a home base that's right on the course so

we recorded uh you know we took a couple picks like wow we're in the media center it's great let's go check out the course buzz out to the course it's like 71 degrees sunny windy and no one's on the golf course except for like the maintenance team at this point and so we're like let's just go walk around we've got the credentials so we start realizing that we start walking back towards like the fourth, fifth holes and stuff like that. No one's out there except for the maintenance crew and us. And we've got this credential thing. So we're kind of like testing the limits.

Like, hey, Trentco put like a couple feet in the rough. We're essentially small children who like don't know anything. And we're just testing the limits with our parents, which is the USGA. Next thing you know, we're just like on the T-boxes. We're just standing on the T-boxes. And no one's around. We're like, holy shit. We're taking pictures.

We're like jumping up and down. Like look how firm this is. Let's test it. Did we leave foot? Do we not leave footprints? I hid in the rough at one point to see if people could fucking see me. I couldn't see me. When we did the you laying in the rough, I was like, we are going to, we can do whatever we want.

Yes. Because you were just on the golf course laying down inside the ropes and we were making a video of you jumping out of the rough. Absolutely. I mean, I was legitimately like I almost rolled into the bunker because that's how on the golf course I was. There could now be someone that flies on into the rough and just hits your little flat part that you may have flattened out the feskew in one little twice as long by now, Frankie. Wait, can you see this shit?

I'm talking. It does look magical. Someone's going to lose like a magic rough. Yeah, right. Someone's going to lose a small child in the rough this week. For sure. Like, oh, Timmy just ran like under the rope real quick. Gone in the rough.

The pictures and videos I've seen of the rough have been laugh out loud, funny. I mean, I don't care how many people are there. Because obviously we always talk about how pros have it better because they have all all these people watching their balls and you, I mean, you essentially have 10,000 for caddies every single time you hit a golf ball. Like I just played this weekend and I lost like a thousand balls in just fescue where he's just like, well, if I had like fucking caddies and shit, I never lose this ball. I know where it is.

It's just a little high rough. These people with that type of rough, I don't care how many people are watching it. A ball can drop right in front of your eyes and I think it just disappears right in front of your eyes. There's some stuff. There's some spots too that are not far from fairways. I'm talking like within two or three feet of the fairways sometimes. That's not fair.

Stuff that is gone. That ball is gone. No one will ever find it. You could know it's within a three foot radius gone. It's like fine high and just thick. The biggest thing is even if you find it, you cannot put a club through it. You're fucked. So we're obviously going to get into more of the details of this, but when I was inside the ropes with Kisner today.

No big deal. He on the fourth hole, he's in the middle. a fairway hit it's windy as shit like a crosswind he tries to like hit this like draw up against the wind and just hooks it left into the fescue and as it's in the air going towards a fescue he just goes up that's in the rough double out of the tournament it's just it was amazing and then it takes one two inch turn to the left yeah like i might as well go all right pack up my shit i'm going exactly he says he goes oh that's in the rough double out of the tournament us opens over it was incredible

But you're right, the rough. And it's the golf course. After having seen it, we've been up close and personal with it, which we're going to get into a lot more of those details. But it is very fair. The fairways are wide. You remember that from when you were out here three weeks ago. Yep.

The fairways, you know, they're significantly wider than Beth Page's fairways are, even for the average golfer right now. Right. Professional golfers should be able to hit the fairways. But if they don't and they hit a bad shot, this course will not allow you to have any sort of second chance. There's essentially no, there's like basically no middle ground between fairway. It's almost like fairway water hazard.

Right. Because like the rough, it just is there. It's just, it's almost, it's, it's, it's, it's fairway, definitely fescuey stuff that's like your ball might never be found. It's essentially like playing on an arcade golf course that something someone would draw up where it's just fairway and then just cliffs on either side. It's like, it's like Rainbow Road and Mario Kart. Exactly.

That's exactly what I was. It's rainbow road. It's Rainbow Road. It's a rainbow road. It's a great call. There's a couple patchy spots that are better than others. Like the 10th hole, for example, it plays relatively short par four,

where guys are going to be hitting irons and, like, wedges or short irons and a green awful lot of teeth. But if you choose a three wood or maybe even too long of an iron and try to bite off too much, catch this little downhill speed slot, and your ball misses two feet right of the fairway, it is the most gnarly, deathly, fescuey rough I've ever seen in my life. And it's literally two feet off the fairway.

And it's been windy too. I mean, and this, I cannot wait to see it because I've always prided Beth Page as being, you know, the craziest rough in U.S. open history. We always, New Yorkers love saying that. And I think Shinnecock like doubled down on this from what I'm hearing. And I cannot wait to have, like I love that New York has this thing with rough. Like New York golf courses love to just, like we always talk about. carnage like we are looking for carnage at the u.s. Wingfoot, Beth Page, now shake up.

They love the fucking rough. God, they love it. But yeah, the course, the fairways are incredibly firm. We got a little bit of rain today. I think they said 0.08 inches. Yep, they announced that was all over that. In the media center, it was like when somebody commits an error. They also do that at media places.

They like announce it to everybody. And they made sure to tell everybody 0.08 inches. What was the voice like? Did it sound like it was like a very, stat's like a statician was saying it or did it sound like a godly figure was saying it no it's kind of a normal statistician yeah statistician is yeah that's what did i say statician he's a statistician statistician it was one of those guys it sounded like one of those guys um but it was the only announcement they made all day for the most part except when the press conferences were happening

they would be like did you see anyone like write that information down when he said it did you look around and see someone like pull out a notepad really definitely they heard 0.08 rain at someone one like scurried to a pen and paper. Oh, yeah. There's some guys doing two, like local, uh,

or not local, like live radio right next to where our little station is. And I heard that guy like a minute and a half later. Like, all right. We're back from the break and we just heard the rain report. It was great. There's also this old guy next to,

uh, the BBC is next to us and this old guy. I haven't talked to him all day. And we just chop it up about media stuff. And on tomorrow when I see him, I'm going to be like, uh, back of the old salt mines.

And we're just going to, we have this. This great connection. It's like two media guys just talking it up next to each other. It's fun. Trent and this guy have been hitting each other with the classic, like, media veteran that have been sitting next to each other for decades. So jargon back and forth. I love it.

Oh, the guy was, like, hitting Trent with a couple of, like, the big rumors from the day. Yep. You know? I'm telling you, we, Barstall Sports is different in a lot of ways. And people, you just walk into a place like this. And it's all of the cliches and shit that you hear about media people. and then there it is. It's just right in front of you.

It's so strange. It's amazing. Like the schmooze in and like the BS that goes on. So we stick out like sore thumbs in there. We feel like we do, but it's, you know, it's kind of like, kind of, it feels like when you would get, have you ever been like really high at a house party and you think everyone else thinks that you look really high, but you're really like, you just probably look fine. Right.

I think of it as the scene in like a high school movie where you see the cool guy for the first time. And he's walking through the whole. hallway and it's in slow motion and everybody's turned their heads like this is how i think was going on everyone else is they're probably not paying attention to us at all but i think we are like in my head we're the cool media company that's like coming in through the doors yeah i think it's somewhere in between those two guys for sure um being high we're making the biggest splash i mean when they see like a setup for the radio and shit that's another thing when you just guys just said like people are like squeezed up in the media center and they're sitting there doing like we're like on

the golf course like overlooking that's the thing is they haven't seen that yet right all they we're gonna be making waves all it looks like people it looks like to them thus far is that we have one chair in the media center for three guys, we're all huddled around this one fucking chair, we look like just all the other schmucks in the room. When they find catch wind of this fucking

that were suspended over the 11th green, that were out there rolling down. You know what happened to me today? That I actually didn't even tell you about. When we later in the day, you went out for a little bit and I stayed into blog and then I eventually went out and walked the course a little bit too. And I got back to my computer and there was a phone

plugged into my laptop. that was not there and was not my phone. And I didn't do anything about it because I didn't know the place is basically empty. There were a couple people sitting around. And I was like, what is going on with this? And 20 minutes later, a local news guy from two rows up came and was like, oh, I plugged my phone into your laptop. I couldn't find a charger anywhere else. He was like, oh, Barstall Sports.

I didn't know you guys were here. You guys have buried me a couple times. I'm a local guy. I was like, all right, man. Yeah, you're welcome for like using my laptop. You guys have buried me? I don't know if he said Barry. He said something about being a local guy in like Barcelona sports doing something to like locally.

And then he was like, all right, well, what a comfortable media guy move that is to plug your phone into someone else's laptop. It was strange. Walking up to your laptop, you had to have thought that all of your information was slowly being transported onto his phone. Sucked on his phone. I was more afraid that I was going to open my laptop and all his weird shit was going to go onto my laptop. I was going to see weird pictures. Some weird-ass local newsman's photos is definitely some like scary. shit. It was strange. And I mean, there's plugins everywhere. The way you got, yeah, there's plugins

everywhere. To me, the media center sounds as though when you walk in, you just get charged up. Like, just from being within all of those charging stations that it all connects to your phone wirelessly. Yeah. The vibe charges all of your stuff. Right. It's like, so the fact this guy couldn't find a charge. He's like, have you ever been in a media center before? Like, what do you do? He's a local guy for a reason. Yeah, that guy will never branch out. It would be like not a little. He was nice, though, after we figured out what was going on. That's great. Sounds like he was a nice guy.

So anyways, we had a great first day. Twilight, soaked in the twilight, kind of the golden hour at Chinnecock. We were some of the only people on the course was very lovely. We went back this morning, very early. Roll in. This time, you know, we're all souped up. We got bag tags. We got our credentials ready to rock.

Right when we enter the property, I get a text from Kisner. That's like, are you on property? I was like, yeah, I just rolled in. He's like, do you want my inside the ropes pass for the day? It's like, yes, I absolutely do. I don't even know what that really meant. Yeah, I need that. That's perfect.

I will say we woke up early originally to see Tiger Woods play his practice round, and then he pulled the old last minute. I'm going to wait and see what the weather does. Yep. So you're supposed to tee off at 718. Yeah. So let the record stay. We were there for the 718 tea time.

Yep. And then it turns out nobody teed off until like 830.30. We were just there. Did Tiger end up playing? Nope, nope. But he did go to the range and he was alone on the range and he balls in the rain. Oh my gosh. If you see the picture, he's by himself out there.

I mean, he's got his coach with him, but he's the only player out there. It's awesome. It is a tiger's going to win by a million picture if I've ever seen one. Holy shit. It's just, I saw an angle too that the golf, the USGA Instagram story put up from like right behind him. And they got like, they got. like they got a view kind of through the umbrella of one of his swing coaches and you can see like rain drops falling off the umbrella and he's like hitting through him it's wild he's looking at it oh

I mean the the fog and the rain is coming down so hard that you can't see beyond him he's just hitting into the mist it's mythical by himself I mean there's all these names that are like of people that were supposed to be on the driver didn't show up that looks like it looks like a fucking cemetery It does look like a cemetery. It's a bunch of cowards and all of their empty fucking stations and tigers out there just stinging two irons. The biggest savage of all time. Can we just talk about that we are in the same area right now as Tiger Woods? When I was driving through Southampton, just realizing, like, I just had this feeling of like...

You felt the force. I did feel the force. And I know he's not even in this area. He's like 45 minutes away. He's staying in his dingy. You know, when Luke shows up to the same, like, city at Darts in. And they're like, oh shit, I feel it. That's what you felt.

Yeah. Tiger, he's just around for sure. I felt that way, too, when we went to Augusta, anytime I'm near, I know that I'm near Tiger, I'm always like, is he in the house? And this time it's different because he's on his yacht. But it is dingy, sorry. It is strange to be even in the same area. I said to myself, do you think he drove on this road when I was just driving up one of the main roads?

That's what you thought about in the line. I've told this story before. I'm going to tell it really quickly again, the first time I ever saw it. Tiger in person was at the 2007 PGA. Yep. And my brother and I drove down to Tulsa, Oklahoma, at Southern Hills. And we got there Sunday. We got there at like 8 a.m.

Tiger didn't show up until like 1230. And we got there like 1145. We moved over towards the driving range area. We were like, I don't know where he's going to come from, but it feels like he's probably going to come out of this area. And when he came walking from his fucking car in the parking lot, from the parking lot to the putting green, dressed in all black, or red and all black,

with a two-stroke lead in a major championship on Sunday he came marching through there were probably 20,000 people in that practice area nobody made a fucking sound he walked through exactly like when Darth Vader

or when the emperor arrives and meets like Darth Vader at the Death Star and walks through and everyone's just like down on one knee like worshipping him that's exactly what it was like he walked right by us and my brother and I was just like don't move don't say anything I think in like a month

I should try to tell that story because I've heard it so many times you should see if I can tell it it's that good and it's that good of a feeling Tiger is around he's just generally around it feels great we're gonna see him tomorrow so when people are listening to this we will be seeing Tiger in person but love that he was on the range I don't think did we talk about his whole calling his boat the dingy thing I don't think we talked about on the podcast no but we you and I Frankie when it first happened it was he said it in the press conference got a couple laughs and

And he said it four more times during the press. Yeah, someone mentioned, like, you know, one of the reporters just had, it was, it was the elephant in the room for sure. I mean, everyone in the media was, like, loving the fact that he, I mean, even us, we loved the fact that he was just slowly bringing this boat into Sag Harbor instead of just, like, coming here. It became a big story. It did. It was everywhere. It was all, like, business insider was, like, blogging about Tiger's yacht. Yeah.

It's one of those stories that if you're not a golf or a sports outlet, it's easily accessible enough where it's, like, it's like, It's Tiger Woods. He's staying on a yacht as opposed to a hotel. All right, let's run with it. So that's, that's one of those stories that's going to blow up. And no one had asked him for the first,

like, 10 minutes of the, of the press conference. And finally someone's like, what about the fucking yacht? Like, we got to know about privacy. How have we not talked about it? And he's like,

and he, like, just, like, just scratches his face. He's like, yeah, you know, it's just, you know, my dingy's here. And I was like, what the fuck is a dinghy. Honestly, I did not know what a dinghy was.

I don't know if that means that I'm just like, an uncultured fuck or if I'm like I'm not rich enough to know what a dinghy is. I knew what it was. I'm definitely not rich. And I live on Long Island and I have like boats all around me. So what he said was staying on the dingy helps. Right. Because the question was the fucking person, the genius, whoever asked this question,

this was genius, tied it into traffic, all the traffic that people have been talking about. Somehow like tied the traffic narrative into like, oh, is it going to be a big benefit that you get to stay on your yacht out in sack harbor instead of the traffic and his answer was staying on the dinghy helps when you when you say he looked down and was scratching his beard a little bit i see in his head all the man hours that he put in writing that joke yeah preparing for that exact question to come up like you alluded to he got like one or two chuckles they're like ha-ha and he fucking ran with it he must have said the word dingy four or five more times just you know sprinkled throughout the rest of the interview.

So yeah, we thought, I mean, I came over to Trent in the office and I was like, hey, man, Tiger's press conference was legendary. And he kept saying Dingy and I was laughing and I'm going to be honest. Like, I have no idea what Dingy is. And I looked it up and it's like it just means a very small little quaint boat. When you, when you Google Dingy, the pictures that pop up of this thing, I mean, it's just, they have a water raft. They look like, yeah, like the boats on the Titanic that are used to save people.

Yeah, but like smaller, but it's way smaller. Something that you just like those ones you can roll up dozens of people in. This is like we could blow that up with our father son thing. Yes. Right. If you had like an above ground pool, you could like tool around in a dingy for sure. And he's saying, I mean, this is a yacht we're talking about and he's calling it a dingy. It's the ultimate power move of all time.

It's a yacht that takes like 10 people to operate it. Yeah. Called it a dingy. Amazing. So great stuff. Tiger obviously. Hitting balls in the rain. very mythical, very awesome.

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Yes. I'm like, okay. He's like, I'm on the range, T off and a half hour. Come meet me up at the range. It's like no big deal. So I roll up to the range and there's like our credentials get us past the normal level of the range.

But then there's like a second gate that says players, coaches, uh, no players, coaches and caddies only past this point. So you're like really close, but you're not quite there. So I'm standing here.

I'm like the only person at this spot. Kids sees me, starts walking towards me. and then a ball bounces one hops in front of me and hits me in the shin from like my left. And I look over and it was Kevin Chappell who's playing with Kiz and staying in a house this week with Kiz. And he was like, suck it rigs or something like that. I looked over. I was like you were able to just do that.

I mean, this was like a 30 yard chip. Oh, he chipped it. Yeah, he chipped the ball, the golf ball over someone else. One hop hit me in the shin as Kiz was approaching me. I'm like, what the hell is going on here? I was like, yeah, we're all playing together. We have a good time today. I was like, okay.

My shin hurts. Like, why do you hit me in the shin? It gives me this little, this thing that I mentioned earlier that, like, glows. It's like that, that fire engine type yellow. Yeah. That just glows from anywhere on the golf course. And it just says, inside the ropes, player, like, 131 pass. And it goes around your arm, like your, uh, it gets,

kind of like one of the blood blood pressure things. Yeah, and runners use it a lot to put their phones in there. That's what I'm sure. Yeah, the band, like the arm band type thing.

It goes around your arm like that. So I'm walking, I'm running around like, I'm like, I'm a fucking sprinter or something. Yeah. But anyways, roll over to the first tee.

And I told Trent, this afterwards, I was like, I didn't really know what inside the ropes meant. I was like, I'm kind of like a little bit inside the ropes, but like get the fuck out of the way or what is it?

So I'm like kind of in the corner on the first tea. And then kids is like, all right, we got everybody. Where the fuck is Riggs? He looks back. He's like, Riggs, get over here. So we're just, like, two feet away from each other as they're teeing off. These guys, I mean, they're, like, talking to each other's back swing, like, legit.

Like, Kevin Chappell's, like, over the ball about to pull the club back. And Kiz is standing six inches away from his ball. And then looking at me, and he's like, now Riggs, you got Chappi's, like, working on this weird-ass shit. Watch it, like, as he's pulling the club back. And then he's hit it. And so they're just, like, chirping each other. They're telling stories. We're, like, walking down the first fairway.

I'm like, what the hell is. going on right now. A couple holes in, I ask Kiz, I'm like, hey, can I get, like, a couple golf balls, like, fuck around with? So I want to, like, roll balls on the green and, like, throw them in the rough. And, like, I don't know, just, like, do shit on the golf course.

He's like, oh, hell yeah. He hands me two golf balls and his pitching wedge. He's like, I never have to use my pitching wedge. So here you go. Just take my pitching wedge. So I got, like, kids is pitching wedge. Unreal. And two golf balls.

And I'm just, like, walking, hanging around the sides of the greens, like, kind of chipping a little bit. I hit a couple, like, chips that, like, didn't make it up a slope and rolled back to my feet. And then I was like super embarrassed. I like didn't chip that much. Uh-oh. Butter knife central off that.

Big time. Big time. Can you imagine if I went in there inside the ropes and kids is like, hey, Frankie, here's my 56. Why don't you go fuck around with it for a second? I just pull that weapon out. No. You'd be taking people out left and right.

I mean, that could be the way that Tiger Woods wins this goddamn U.S. Open. There'd be an ambulance at the tournament. Fowling Frank. You let me out there with a 56 and I'll fucking take people out, man. eliminating just pagan people eliminating competition

what a fucking world you're like you're holding a golf club during a practice round at the US Open just like chipping around it was outrageous like it just came out of nowhere

was that the most like what the fuck has happened to my life moment yes that was bigger than the other like what that walking nine holes with these guys so it's Kevin Chapel

Kevin Kisner and Luke List they're like three good buddies they play a bunch of practice rounds together and all that they're chatter Like, their stories, they're just, like, shooting the shooting in the greens. The way that they do the practice rounds, like, everybody's approach, how different it is.

Kevin Chappell has a guy over the last, like, six months that he hired, who's a very deep, like, statistician. Yep. Statistician type guy. He takes kind of like a moneyball approach to golf, and he's got, like, a handful of clients now in the PGA tour. And Kevin Chappell's one of them. And he, you know, he gives him, like, when the pin position is in this location on this green, green. If you miss to the right of it, there's like a 77.1% chance that you'll make a part.

Some Bryson DeCambos shit. If you miss to the left, right, this guy takes like a crazy statistical approach to the game. And Kevin Chappell hired him to help him out and all that. And Kiz is the exact opposite. So Kiz was chirping the shit out of this guy like the whole time. And every time, like the first whole Kevin Chappell like misses short, right? It's just like a shitty approach into the green. And then Kiz is like, oh, where were the stats on that one, boy?

I'm just sherman on the whole time. Hearing these stories about Kevin Kisner makes me actually respect the fact that he's a number 30 rank golfer in the world even more. In the world. He brought fucking rigs out for the practice round today. We've talked about this a lot, but I'm deep

inside this goddamn Tiger Woods book that I've been reading. And I mean, like, the approach that this man Tiger Woods had to practice around, practice, you know, the way he plays the game of golf, like you couldn't even look at him when he was playing the game of golf. And the fact that Kiz is like bringing you on the golf course, chirping like Dave Portnoy on. Twitter. He's got the goddamn U.S.

open tomorrow. Like the U.S. tomorrow morning, dude. He's facing the guy we're talking about who is Darth Vader. He, like, wants to murder people. And like, kids are like, is like, literally tweeting. From the golf course. Dave porno I make bar on nine. I don't get it.

We were on the radio, for bars to radio live when that happened. Dave was doing his electric live tweeting at Kevin Kisner saying, like, I'm going to get in this guy's head. And he like, answered right away. We're like, isn't he golfing right now? And like, there was a moment where we just said he has a

huge tournament tomorrow huge and uh i mean the fact that he can still figure out a way to like i don't know how he does it i mean you must know more than me but i is there just something that just snaps well the other thing that i realize is so kids right i mean he's from aiken south carolina like his crew right they are like like like corn boys from like you know like achin south carolina is these guys are fucking hillbill isn't right know it

and they love it. Right. And, like, so he's just got that demeanor and that, like, mentality about everything. Like, he's, he never gets upset. Like I said, that story where he fucking hooked one on four. Amazing. Into the feskew. And all he said, as the ball is literally turning right to left in the air, he goes, oh, rough, double.

Out of the tournament. Like, he's just laughing about it. Uh, that's just, like, that's just his approach. The other thing I've realized is, like, when he texts me about my swing and stuff, and playing a playing, like, literally being in a practice around with him at the U.S. Open. how fucking much he knows about golf is crazy, right? Because I just thought like Saul Kiz is this, this bro and like this cool fun guy.

And he went to Rough and Rowdy and he like drank all day and people were like giving him shit for it. Like what is this guy? Is he just some like savant natural talent? Dude, he knows so much about golf and the golf swing and was telling me about how he had, uh, his, his guy had changed his setup yesterday and how he feels he's like, I have never felt more uncomfortable over a golf ball in my life, but he told me to do this, and I'm just striping it today, so I do it. And then he's telling me about the tweak.

And then as I've got the pitching wedge, he's like remembering and pulling up screenshots of my swing and being like, all right, Riggs, you need to, here, look, bring it out like this. And I'm like, well, yeah, but I keep hitting it thin when I do that. And he's like, this is exactly why, you dumb ass, like, look at this. And he's just like, he knows so much about the golf swing and the game of golf and, like, his mental approach and all that, that I was, I was stunned to see it. But then you also realize, well, he's got to be number 30 in the world for a reason. Last year, he was up to like 19 or 20 or 22 or something like that.

President's Cup, like winning tons of money every weekend. So like he, it's just a different approach, but it does seem weird, right? Like it almost goes against everything that, you know, a golfer from the outside looking in would think like golf's like a, you would always say golf is more mental sometimes than it is physical. You have to be, especially in a U.S. Open type atmosphere where you have to perform for four straight days against the best golfers in the world. You got to be fucking locked in. Like, if someone wants to make a joke, you should be like, what the fuck you're joking about, man? I'm playing the biggest goddamn golf match in my entire life.

But this guy's out here teaching you how to golf on the golf course. There is something that, though, for being like, relaxed. Right. It was like, he's stopping in the middle of the fairway. Like, a couple guys tweeted at me were like, I just watched Kevin Kivner give rigs swing tips for two minutes in middle of fairway on like number five. I was like yeah that's what happened he stopped holding up the group was like no rigs open the club face like he's like getting pissed me but like he just like he fucking loves it and he's just so you're right he's like so relaxed um and it's not for everybody right like everybody's got their different approach

um he was saying that they had played with uh Patrick cantley the day before and we were talking about can't lay and i i was like does he play as slow with you guys he does we're in a tour he goes no we don't let him and we're like shooting this shit and he's like no can't lay is like an awesome duty's like but he's a bit of a brainiac so he has a totally different approach so like you know you got to kind of let him do his thing and all that but he just has a totally different approach like that stuff doesn't bother him I think it almost like relaxes him it almost gets him kind of a comfortable mindset of like I'm not taking this too seriously I you know I'm fucking around with rigs and these idiots on the you know on the range and then on the course and they also like you

realize like what they're getting out of their practice rounds is different for every person I mean, they do. They post up on every green. They put T's in where they think all the pin locations are going to be. And then even like a couple of their caddies were like disagreeing on where they think one of the pins were going to be. And one of the guys is like, no, this is where it was in 2004. Another guy was like, that part of the green didn't exist in 2004 because they like completely redid it. And then kids would put to it and the ball would like roll off the green and be like, they better not put a pin there.

Like that's just how they're doing their practice sessions and everybody doesn't. How much time do they get per hole? I noticed that it kind of just goes with the flow of things And the group that's on the green Pretty much leaves the green either when they're ready Or when the group behind them is ready to hit their approaches in It's kind of like a respect thing Although they did tell me a couple tidbits about Phil

That I think it was yesterday that Phil was grinding playing by himself And grinding so hard around the greens and the chipping and all that That he was letting to some. play through him on almost every hole. Wow. He was spending like 20 or 30 minutes around every green, just chipping to everywhere. Nonstop.

The other tip bit I heard about Phil. So we got a couple sources that are operating the driving range, which is a whole operation I talked about it while I was waiting for kids at the office morning for like a half hour. The driving range operation, there's 11 different types of golf balls. They all hit them out under the range. And then they have two sheds.

baggers driving around driving range cart guy what the fuck they call those guys can't think of the name driving around picking up balls at the same time they all go to the dispensary come out they got to like sort them and all that but uh this source was telling me that the calaway guys they sent balls that are like the soccer balls you know how calloway does that yep with like the soccer ball printing um and they look bigger to the eye yeah when you're over them but the ones the guys are actually using in the tournament aren't soccer ball ones. So the one they're supposed to be using on the range are. And he said that this morning Phil was like, fuck that.

And Phil hit Provee once because he was like, I'm not hitting no side. So yeah, a great little tidbit about Phil. But everybody kind of moves along like at their own pace. It was funny because like the first couple holes I was like nervous or shit just standing off to the side. Oh yeah. And then by like the fourth green or something like Kevin Chappell literally had to yell at me from the green side bunker.

He's like, Riggs. Get out of the fucking. way and I looked down and I was like standing in the middle of the green like Instagramming something and he's like I'm trying to hit for shit I'm sorry but it was unreal it was awesome just like seeing the whole thing trying to act cool they were like are you bored yet by the seventh hole or something I was like dude this is the coolest thing I've ever done right ever done and then like when we came up nine obviously I did the whole periscope live and all that so people kind of got to see what it was like I mean that honestly that look in of like Kisner chirping his interactions with his catty

his caddy dropping like hilarious one-liners and stuff that was what we did for like two and a half hours um so it was awesome it was incredibly cool coming up the ninth with the crowd right because like there's really nobody following in the morning um there are a couple stories like a couple guys gave kids like the go dogs thing because he's obviously georgia bulldog um but then once we got to the ninth where you're like right by the clubhouse and all that there's like a massive crowd and we're like i'm like rolling up in the middle people like who the fuck is this guy yeah um and other guys like, you know, the other two guys, Luke List and Kevin Chap, like, they have their own teams. So, like, a couple of their, like, somebody's swing coach or the statistician guy or whatever would come rolling over.

They'd be like, oh, who are you? What do you do for Kevin? He gives me golf tips. Yeah, because he's my swing coach. So it was incredibly cool, obviously. It's very awesome. People can go check out that. The Periscope Live, I put it on the blog, and it's on Barstil Sports main account.

But, yeah, the course, I mean, the greens were firm as shit. they're very firm on several holes the guys I mean on on greens that are downwind especially where they're hitting longer irons in like on number two for example the 255 yard par three like there's a cross bunker like that's 221 I think as caddy said

that they have to fly and that's pretty much all they're trying to carry it like you carry it it over that bunker so make sure you cover like 225 kids is what he's saying and that's what kids did on two and then it rolls up 15 yards of, you know, fringe. And there was a back left pin. And Kiz today barely flew that bunker, 15 yards short of the green.

And he had like 20 feet for birds. Jeez. So it's like they're firm as shit, especially when they're downwind. And they have the prevailing wind today. They're not very fast. The greens are like pretty noticeably slow. And I think they almost have to be because Shinnecock greens are so undulating and all that. Yeah.

They're obviously like pure. They're true. They're firm as shit and all that, but they're not overly fast. I'm sure they'll get faster as the week goes on. The rough's outrageous, as we already talked about, the weather. I mean, it was windy as shit today. It was windy as shit yesterday. And it's supposed to be windy all weekend.

That's going to be great. Which is awesome. I think I saw they said that may get to points of gusting around 30 miles an hour. Holy shit. I saw. Mike Davis said he doesn't think it's outside the realm of possibility that they will have to suspend play at some point, not for rain at all but for it's too windy the balls aren't staying on the greens wow um how does that affect um like the uh like a viewer of where you guys like does it get chilly

because it's so freaking windy yeah it's like it's like a brisk you know like we're kind of like quarter zip season at the u.s yeah it'll be it's gonna be quarters of the i was i was wearing pants and one of our quarter zips and i was like chilly yep so i'm wearing quartersips tomorrow yeah yeah because it's gonna be hotter tomorrow i think but you know today was a little rainy and cloudy and all that so it'll be warmer than it was today but even like Tuesday night it was beautiful out there and it was a little chilly

yeah and we're out there like we have a radio show from 4 to 7 yeah it's gonna be right we're gonna be out there 30 mile an hour wins sorry so for us whatever we're watching it we're there but these fucking players man playing in 30 mile an hour wins with this rough that we're talking about 30 mile hour can't practice something like that

30 mile hour wins is intense and like with these greens like and the other thing about the routing of the golf course is that every hole goes in a different direction. So the wind, it's not like you go out and you play into the wind, you come back, you play downwind. It's like it's a cross wind, then you're into the wind, then you're downwind.

We noticed that when Dave was playing, it seemed as though every single hole, somehow, some way, no matter what way we turned, the wind was blowing in his face. Yeah. We were like, how is that possible? And the guys were just like, you know, it's just like a wind tunnel in here.

It is, and it's just, you're constantly like spinning in a fucking circle and going different directions. because of the routing and all that. So the wind is very difficult to pick up on. And you get the firmness of those greens and the fairways. It's hard to hold the fairways when if the fairway slopes left to right and it's blowing gusting 30 miles an hour left to right.

And the fairway's firm as shit. You're like, there's no way my ball doesn't end up in that right rough. How do pros practice shots like that? How do you prepare for a really windy move to Texas? Like you just have to. You just always have to practice in those conditions. I mean, there's no way of, like, simulating. Like, they don't, like, when they're on the ranger,

they practice, like, hitting it just a little bit more right because, like, and pretending on a day that, you know, it's, the preparation, I think, for that is incredibly difficult, and that's why it gives certain guys, like, a big advantage. Like, Tom Watson, in 2009 at Turnberry, when he almost won at age 59, I've watched this documentary a couple times, and the one thing that always sticks out to me is he said,

the reason I knew I had a chance is because during the practice rounds, the wind was never like a certain way. And he knew the wind was going to play that way at least one day because the forecast. And he had seen that win because he's won there like a couple times before or whatever. And he was like, I know that's going to give me a huge edge on the field because other people haven't played that wind. So I think like there's minimal opportunity to prepare for something like that. One thing that I really like is they were saying that we're going to have different wins, I think, tomorrow. so when people are listening to this Thursday and Friday, and then it's going to be the prevailing wind

is going to return over the weekend. So they're going to get a couple different wins too, which is going to be tricking everybody out. So I think, I mean, my guess is that it's going to be around par, maybe a little over that wins it, just because I think the wins, I think that the punishment, if you miss fairways and how easy they're going to be to miss

despite the fact that they're wide. and I think getting up and down is just unbelievably difficult around the green. There's runoffs fucking everywhere. I had forgotten from three weeks ago how severe the runoffs are. I mean, you miss, like, you know, you go three feet too far

on a certain pin location and you have like the most ridiculous chip shot I've ever seen. You know why we couldn't tell last time is because every time Dave hit a runoff we didn't even pay attention because he just hit another shot. He didn't even pay attention. He just hit another shot. Right, right. The only time I pay attention is when it like perfectly stuck on the green and we were just like,

right, that's the one. Like, I honestly didn't see anything hard about the golf course because exactly. He made it look so easy. Shot 66. He sure does. And he stinks to golf and he shot 66. But like, it's going to be funny to watch professional golfers just get dominated by this golf course

because we're actually going to see shots that, you know, they have to stick with. Like, you hit the front of the green. That's all you got. You guys are just showing me like videos of just balls running, what, like 30, 40, 50 yards. So we had, yeah, this evening now we're, uh, so Wednesday evening. we went out there again and we found a golf ball in the fescue because there's so much, I mean, there's so much fescue and rough. Imagine you found days.

Lose golf ball. Could be a Dave ball. Who knows? He hit a couple of my Bridgestone Tiger Ball. So if we find one of those more spectating, I want one of those. I want that back. I'll give those back. That's not.

That's fair. That's fair. It's somewhere in that row. We found a Calloway Ball. And because of the credentials that we have and because shout out of us for having credentials, and because of the inside the ropes thing that kids got me this evening around 7.7.30 we were just cruising around with a golf ball

walking around the fairways rolling them down the fairways seeing how far they would roll on the fairways, went up to the green and we're like rolling them on certain spots of the green and seeing how far away they would roll. On 18 we were trying to get them to roll all the way from the back of the green all the way off down into the fairway. They got close, but they didn't quite get all the way down there. but on 11 we roll the ball from just off the front edge

and it went legit like 60 yards away. Just like went around this bunker all the way down like into the route. So again, if you put your ball in the right spots, it's an incredibly fair test. I could see someone, you know, hitting a lot of fairways, playing well. The greens, you can make puts on the greens because they're not overly fast. And, you know, they wouldn't have to play like unbelievably well, but it's just the mistakes are going to be very, very magnified.

Our good guy, Brandel Chamblis, made some phenomenal points about the guys that have won here before. He said that Reteef Gousson, when he won in 2004, led the PGA tour in scrambling. And he said when Corey Phaven won in 1995, he only hit 35 greens the entire week, which is outrageous. That's outrageous. That's scrambled eggs. Scramble eggs. So if you're trying to pick folks or. If you're sitting there thinking even on Thursday, like I need to fire some live bullets.

I need to figure out who I think is going to win. You got to look at the guys that are best at getting it up and down. I'm looking at strokes gained around the green right now. We got our guy Jason Day's up there. Obviously Patrick Reed's up there. Tigers up there, number five on the PGA tour this year. Hideki Matsuyama, who I feel like nobody's talking about. People are sleeping on him.

Is up there. So scrambling is going to be huge. But the course looks good. Big shout out to Ricky Fowler, who was grilled about not winning a major. I think what was the number he's got like eight top five? Is that what it is? Yep.

I think he's got eight top five at majors, hasn't won one. And one of his quotes from today was, quote, we all know I'm going to win. I'm good. I'm sorry. We all know I'm good enough to win one. That's a fair statement. Yeah.

I don't think he's wrong, but it's just like, we all know. Like he just looped us all into it. I think, you know what it is? He's sick again that question. So he's like, he's trying to give them a message like, every time you guys ask me this, I say, I know I'm good enough. So now I'm going to loop all of you in here and say, we all know I'm good enough. So stop asking me this question.

I'm actually turning on that. I wish someone would have just been like, well, they want you fucking do it. You should have seen it. Do it then. The quote doesn't do it justice. If you ever, if you see the press conference, he says it like, we all know I'm good enough to win a major. Like I would have just right there. Like the way you just said that would have been like, do it.

We're probably going to have to include that. With that audio eggs. We have press passes. You can probably do it. That makes me mad that he's saying that now. Originally, I was like, all right, yeah, that is a fair point. But, I mean, like you said, to loop everyone, I mean, don't tell me what you're supposed to do or that you can. We all know I'm good enough to win one.

You should have said I know I'm good enough to win. Correct. Like, what do you mean we all? Like, no, we don't. You don't know one. We literally don't know if you are good enough to win them because you haven't. You might never win one, right? Therefore, we would be like, we know you're not.

good enough. This is why we need media credentials. Yeah. We should have chopped it up with Ricky. A shout out to Trent, who was in the Rory Presser today. I went to the Rory Presser, and I was prepared to ask some sort of stupid question. I was actually going to ask him about Pusha T and Drake, just because you go to these press conferences and it is exactly what you think it's going to be, people asking him about this and that. And I just wanted to do something that was dumb and hopefully make him like him.

laugh and I you know I don't have any balls so I chickened out what was the question going to be I was either going to ask him is Drake ever going to respond to push a tea which would be very simple or that would have been electric just coming from the clouds like we got one in the back right mr. Trae oh I was close too I would have been right I was like pretty close to the front and then I was like going to ask him push a tea and Drake are both Adidas guys and I was going to ask if their internal beef was going to take down Adidas and help Nike's brand overall Wow. Which was more wordy, so I probably would have gone with the first one.

So now I have a question. What is the process like when being in a presser like that? And how do you get a question? Like, Howard, do you get chosen to ask a question? All you do is you get in there, you sit down. The guy comes in. Rory came in. He gives a couple opening statements, blah, blah, blah.

He's happy to be at the U.S. Open. Did he look as majestic as he did the day. We saw him in the practice round? Yes. Cool. He looked great. He looked good. He was juggling in his cool house.

And then after he talks for five minutes or whatever, they open it up to questions and they say if you want to ask a question raise your hand and someone will bring you a microphone and that's it so did you raise your hand no we're going to get there it's a long weekend okay we're in a position where we are very friendly with usGA right now and i'm not going to i don't want to use the excuse i just didn't add i had no balls i was chickened out but asking a drink push tea question i don't know if that's going to go over great right especially the first day yeah here for the like you said it's a long weekend maybe ease yourself in with you with like a normal golf question. Maybe that's how you like dip your toes in. Right. Although, you know, I think Barstall's all about just shooting from the hit. Right. You know, you know.

You didn't shoot at all. I know. Yeah, but I don't want to be. I'd rather be caught dead on the street than being like, hey, what do you think about these super wide fairways? Yeah, seriously. I mean, we're not here to ask those questions. For real.

We're here to find out what the fuck Rory thinks about push a T and Drake. That's unreal. That would have been a lot. lecture no balls you know what that's part frankie is they give you you'll see this they have this um this this this whole like table of transcripts from all the press conferences they literally like transcribe everything like the question the answer so trent it would have been like cue what do you think of and then it would have been a like whatever like i would have cut that out and framed it there would have been moments where you guys were back at your charging stations and stuff and

inside the media and you would have heard other media and you would have heard other you like just like whispering amongst each other like did you hear that fucking question that would have been awesome 100% 100% and let's not put this one to bed yet because like you said there's still plenty of chances for opportunities i you guys are giving me a lot of confidence i will go to the next press conference if it's a big name like roars and i will ask about drake and push it might as well you should ask uh jason day he's a big barcelal guy he'd probably fuck he'd probably you know i would be like hey i'm trying from barcel sports i got a question yeah we have a lot of opportunity here tons you wait frank wait to you see i'm like i'm

opportunity we have. This place, it's insane. It's like a whole new world. If we wanted to come up with something like this, like we're talking right now, you know, I asked someone a question. We have the ability to just do that. Yeah. That's how insane this is. So now takes a second for that to sink it. It does. It's true. Yep. All right. I think that's all I got. Shout out to Supreme golf. Go to Supreme Golf.com slash bar stool. Go download their app. They are by far the best tea time booking app. They got everything you've ever heard of. They got a million discounts. It's awesome. them. They're the best.

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SupremeGoff.com slash barstool. Download their app. The U.S. Open is going to be fucking awesome. Do we have projections going in, you know, predictions, I mean? I'm sorry. I bet a lot of money on Tiger Woods this week. I did. I really did.

All right. So do you honestly think that Tiger Woods, like, who is your pick? I know you bet money probably because number one, it's a value pick and two, it's a heart pick. But who do you actually think going into tomorrow or today when you're listening to this? Who is going to win the U.S. Open? I mean, the scrambling talk makes me think, Phil. It makes me want to pick Phil. When you were talking about the scrambling, I just, I literally envisioned Phil holding the U.S.

Open. So I've said this before. I think if I really had to pick, I think Jason Day has a really good shot of winning. And I said this. I think this is going to be a like a blockbuster name winner. It's going to be a top 10 guy in the world or a tiger fill. It won't be like a fringy guy. It'll be like a fucking mega superstar.

I think he's going to win this week. That's got me amped out. What do you think, Trent? I want to pick Phil. I want to pick Phil. I want him to finally get it. And then I agree. This week has, maybe it's just because we're here and we have credentials and we're so

involved in the tournament, but it just has a very big feel. And Shinnock is awesome. We've been walking in it for the last two days. And it can't have some like letdown winner. It's going to be somebody big winning. So I'm going to pick Phil. If like Webb Simpson went this week, like Shinnecock Hills might like burn the USGA to the ground. Is Hideki Matsuyama a big enough name where you would be?

be okay with winning? Yes. Because for some, I don't know if it's because during the Tiger Woods press conference that we watch where he's talked about as dingy, someone asked him about Hadeki Matsyama, and he was like, Hadeki Matsuyama is the type of player that when he is playing to his,

like, fullest potential, he just, like, wins. And he's like a dominant golfer. Yeah. So I love, what I love about the Japanese media is they do this all the time. They always, like, they all go to the Tiger Presser or the Rory Presser,

and they just ask about Hadeki Matsia. Is that a thing? It's awesome. no they've been doing that forever it's great and they frame it all the time they're like tiger we think I mean they make him sound unbelievable done such a great job with your recovery and your turnaround and we're all really happy they like kind of like pepper tiger up and they're like since you've probably been watching a lot of golf like what do you think about head ecuantziah exactly what they said it's absolutely phenomenal no they do it all the time it's great it's one of my favorite things about the press

conferences when the person's like so I mean they've they've inceped my head so I mean I think I have to go to Dekyematea. If it's not him, I'm going, I mean, I'm going all in Tiger. Right. All in Tiger. All in Tiger. All things considered, Herki Matsiamma might be the second biggest golf star on the planet. It's crazy.

Like in Japan, he is a rock star. Yeah. That's how it was with, uh, uh, uh, Yirotuzuki. Right. He was, when he was played for the Mariners. Right. He has like a whole pool, like a chunk of all of the golf pool of media in the United States is like this Japanese golf pool that they only cover at ECMATI.

That is insane. It's like all things. He's doing tiger-like stuff in Japan. Yeah. He's dominating the entire market. Huge. That's crazy. He's huge.

Yeah. And we really don't talk about him that often. No. Here. Right. He doesn't speak English. Well, he does a delay at the top of his way.

There have been times where he's just dominated over it. It's just dominated golf course. Yes. I think it was last year where he won, like, he won a couple terms in a row. He won it. Was it Firestone? I think it might have been Firestone where he won. He went on Sunday.

Everyone else was like grinding. to break part. Nobody can break part. And he shot like 63 or something. Dusted everybody. What is it going on? Going into today and before I heard about the rough and the carnage and everything, I really, really, after walking Shinnecock, I was going into the week, even before the last week's tournament, I was going in thinking that Dustin Johnson was going to be the winner this week. And then he won. And I'm like, well, now I can't say that because it's obvious. I mean, he's like the favorite now to win. He screwed you. He screwed me. But now hearing about all the carnage and the short game and and he's at his trouble with the short game,

especially coming down the stretch and Sundays and stuff. But, you know, I did see Pauline have put up an awesome picture from, like, her private jet looking over Long Island. And that was pretty, that was something. She's having a good couple of days. He's going to have a good weekend. Definitely. A lot going on.

It's going to be a great week. U.S. Open Week. We're here.