Fore Play - Daniel Berger, Cabot, and a Chappy 59

Episode Date: September 17, 2019

Daniel Berger joins the show for the first time (~53:10). He talks about never watching golf, not playing for his high school golf team, but realizing how much he loves playing the game while coming back from injury. He also relives being on the other side of Spieth's famous Travelers Championship playoff bunker hole out, destroying the international team in the 2017 Presidents Cup, and what it was like in the team room with Tiger and Phil. Before Berger, we discuss the Solheim Cup, Cabot Links, Kevin Chappell posting 59 and MUCH more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Trent, Danny, it's just you and myself. It feels like a throwback. It's slim down crew. Yeah, it's the throwback to the old times. We just need Robbie Fox in the booth. We do. He's out there. We can probably go grab him if we needed to.

But we'll let him work on something else. Yeah, that's probably not a bad idea. We've got the boys are out of town. Frankie is traveling back from Vegas. He was out there for NASCAR with Dave. I'm sure he'll have some stories. I'm sure things had to have happened to Frankie while he was out there that he just is going to have to talk about. Things don't think.

Frankie thinks things happen to him. That's sort of his thing. I know he's not here to defend himself, so I feel bad talking about him. We can just roast him. But he's just, he's a little fidgety. He's a little neurotic. So even the littlest of things, he thinks that they're happening to him and him personally. So I guarantee he will have NASCAR stories.

He will. He will come back with. Like 10, you won't believe this happened to me stories of things that just happened to people. I did see a picture of him next to the race car that Barstall sponsors. I believe it's Matt. D. Benendendo. D. Benadetto. I fuck it up every single time.

We got there together. Yeah, we did. Frankie was standing next to the car. He just looked hilarious. I don't know. Frank, in a NASCAR setting, just like a kid from Long Island. Owens an Italian restaurant. Now he's in the middle of the pit at the NASCAR event.

Just a super pale skin, Long Island kid in the pit at NASCAR with a loud NASCAR shirt on. This is great. Frankie's not here. We can just make fun of them. Yeah, we're just roasting them. Fantastic. We're absolutely roasting them. So you may notice my voice is, you know, it sounded better.

It sounded healthier before. I am coming off a five-day, just total bender at Cabot. We went up to Cabot Links. I'm not going to do a whole deal because I want to wait until Lurch is back and break that down, go through it like we did Wisconsin, maybe even have one of my buddies or two call in, but we'll talk about it briefly. We have Daniel Berger on the show. Did about 30 minutes with Daniel Berger.

Yep. He's a couple two-time PGA tour winner. He famously lost to that speed holeout, which we talk about and his reaction to it at the Travelers Championship with the rake throw and the club throw and the chest bump with Greller. And then he obviously had those comments from the 2017 President's Cup when the U.S. just absolutely dusted the internationals. So we talk about all that stuff. It's a good show. It's a great interview. You're going to enjoy that at the second part of the show.

Lurch is in Scott. Lurch, when this comes out, we'll be in Scotland. Now, we did, this cabinet trip was eight people. I started booking it like a year ago with essentially, I want to put a big trip together for all my friends from St. Louis, like all my best friends from back home, who I only get to see like twice a year, maybe, who we've never really done a golf trip together. But ever since, you know, basically like high school, we've all gotten really into golf. Yep.

A bunch of us played hockey together. And we kind of did the same, almost all of us did like the same evolution where, you know, we love watching hockey. Let's go blues. Stanley Cup champs. But, you know, we play golf. That's what we all do. Yeah.

And we've never really done a sick trip together like that golf ever. And Cabot, you know, is my favorite places in the world. So I started putting this trip together. It was my brother, Lurch, and then our five best friends from home. And, man, it was a scene. It's a crew that, like, everybody's getting older. A lot of guys have, you know, wives, and other children, multiple children, dogs, all kinds of priorities. So that's why, like, a year ago, we started booking this thing.

It's tough to get everybody in this. same schedule, all that. Right. These guys, you know, for the most part, they're up really late at night every night or really early in the morning, taking care of the kids and the family and all this and that working. And so this was like the circle on the calendar a year ago as like this is five days, which is the boys in Nova Scotia, Canada. And we just went so hard for so long and played so much golf.

We played seven rounds in four days. We drank the whole time. I have found that it's more dangerous when I go back. home now and I visit my buddies. Like even, even I know you guys are going on a trip and that makes it a little different, but when I'm in town, they're,

they can tell their wives and their kids, they're like, all right, he's going to go out, we're going to go out. He's only in town a couple times a year. Big time. Only a couple times year.

It's now we get more drunk and more hungover than we ever did in college or, you know, late high school, whatever, because like you're saying, it's so few and far between that you see these people that you have to pack it all into a couple of days. And it just, it really heightens the whole thing,

but it's always a goddamn blast. And you never wanted to end. No. Right? Because like if we all go out, I can just Irish exit and be, I'll see you idiots tomorrow. Right. When you only get to see your buddies once, twice, three times a year from home, it's the same deal where they tell the significant other like a month in advance. Like, all right, Riggs is coming home.

This night we're probably going to take it pretty deep. We end up like until like four in the morning, even though we have no business doing that. Drinking, playing like cards, trying to like savor it every minute. So you're right. You get so much. You go so much harder for some reason now. I picture my friends hugging their children like it's the last time they're going to see him. They just, you never know.

Trent is home. Trent's home. We're going to go out to all the bars we used to. We're going to crank it up a few notches. You may be fatherless after this evening. That's what I feel like the attitude they go into those nights with. Like it's like, okay, if I don't see you guys again, I love you. Yeah.

It's like when soldiers used to like go off to war, the Civil War. Like in the Patriot, the movie, they're like, all right, this might be the last time because I'm really going at it today. This could be it. Yeah. It was that Trent Danny, except you just took everyone up to the cliffs of Nova Scotia, Canada and did it for like a said five days. We had eight guys sharing a villa. It was a scene.

It was off the charts good. It was, like I said, for most of my buddies on the trip, like, the first time they've ever really done a pure, like, golfing trip. Right. Shout it to golfing. You can go to your t-shirts. Do it. I got one on my desk right now.

It's beautiful. It is gorgeous. Yeah. It's just perfect. It's the most simple shirt of all time golfing. It just says golfing. So anyways, this is like the first, you know, time for most of the guys in my trip that they've done just a pure golf trip where that's what we're.

we were there to do. There was all kinds of, so the way you get to Cabot, you fly to Halifax about an hour and 30 or 40-minute flight from New York, and then you do a three-and-a-half-hour drive, which Cabot, you know, you can get like a van, a sprinter van, splinter van, splinter. Splinterland, which essentially is just a party bus.

So, you know, like the minute that we land, we're on essentially this party bus, like three and a half hours driving from Halifax up to Inverness, Nova Scotia. And we got, they had me, ended up getting out a notebook. We called it the betting book. There were so many sidewagers going on. Oh, I like that.

I bet this guy doesn't break, you know, 78 the whole week. One guy's like, we're going to bet $5 a hole in our first match. And it was just gambling. It was like, I bet you don't hit more than like two of the par three's in regulation. Like all these gambling was going on. So we had a betting book for the whole week. That was like the drive up there on the van. But we, you know, we started at the airport.

They actually flew through Newark. And I didn't realize like this time. It was like 10 a.m. or something like that. I got to Newark, man. in 18 minutes. It takes no time at all. It was crazy. Newark, people shed on it for whatever reason.

Whenever you fly out of New York, it's like, oh, JFK or LaGuardia, Newark is, especially like you're saying, on a downtime, you can get there in two seconds. It's a way nicer airport, too. It's great. Yeah. I got there so quickly. Lurchy, shout out to Lurch who texted me the day before the flight, the trip, and said, ha-ha, so funny story turns out like I never booked my flights.

Lurch. So he had to book flights last minute. And then he, so this morning, we had a 6 a.m. flight out of Halifax. Okay. It's a three and a half hour drive from Cabot. So last night we drove back late after golf, got in at like one, 3.45 a.m. wake-up call. Then we land here. I went straight home and went to sleep for like a couple hours.

Lurch went straight to work. And then he has a 9.30 flight tonight to Scotland. Jesus. Where he loses like four hours or five hours. Lands in Edinburgh, drives up. and then he's playing golf. I think he's playing Ely on Tuesday when this podcast comes out. And he's now got like five straight days of playing golf in Scotland.

And no joke, like we couldn't even walk onto the escalator. Our legs were beat up so badly from walking around all the golf courses for seven rounds and four days. And he's like, I genuinely don't know what I'm going. He's never going to catch up. That's the problem with something like that. Like a month from now when he's been back in the States for a few weeks, he still might be like, I'm not 100% yet. So to think that he's got to play in Scotland all those days in a row, it's going to be great.

Trip of a lifetime. You took it. It looked fantastic. But he's going to be hurting pretty much the whole time. And there's just not carts. It's Scotland, right? So he has to walk all of these rounds of golf. And he was like, I can't get a new set of legs.

So I don't know what I can do. I genuinely don't know what I'm doing. And not to take shots to lose. That's a big body. You got to carry that a big body route. I know about that. I got a big body as well. It's a bit of a chore.

And if you're not well rested, if you're coming off a five-day bender, With the cabot crew? Tough. That boy has a huge body. Huge. That's why we call him Lurch. Yeah. And I got to tell you, he is right about one thing that he just now.

You can't get a new set of legs? That's true. He's right about two things. Okay. You can't get a new set of legs. That's just, that's true. Well, I guess technically you could, but it would be. What do you mean?

prosthetics. But he's not in that situation. Yeah. We're talking about a new set of legs specifically for this part of the golf trip. I'd say if you were trying to get a new set of legs, you'd want to be like, it'd be like a one to one. Like, you wouldn't even know. notice a difference. I feel like prosthetics you'd notice it'd be very different. We're saying you can't get a fresh new real pair of human legs. Like I think there's an episode of family guy where Joe Swanson

goes and he's like, I want to be able to walk again. And they legitimately give him a fresh pair of legs. You can't do that in real life. You can't do it. No. Lurch just is not in that situation where he can do that. He's not a cartoon character. No. So he is right about that. The other thing that he's right about is that he is as massive as he is, he for whatever reason, looks even more massive in every photo, in every video I've ever seen him in. Well, the Cabot picture is yet another example of he's just, he's huge. He is huge. I mean, I put up this Cabot photo of the like 12 of us, including all our caddies and all that.

And just, you know, you put it up and then I check like 10 minutes later, be like, I want to see if there's comments, whatever. I scrolled through like the first 10 just said, Lurch is a fucking unit. That's all they said. He was like so rattled. He's like, I can't take a picture where I don't look 800 times bigger than everybody else. Yeah, I guess you just got to embrace it. I get what he's saying, though, because he'll never be able to take a normal picture unless he's, like, with an NBA team at the airport.

Like, oh, my God, the Boston Celtics are here. He's like, I know that I'm bigger than you guys. He's like, but I swear in these photos, it's just coming out redie. Even if he takes a knee, it's like, look how tall he is, just taking a knee. He's taller than that woman. That's from the Harvest Side video. That's right. Wherever, no one's, like, really on a knee.

And the other people that are, he's just trouncing over all of them. And then the humans that are standing on our feet, he's like the same size on his knees. It's crazy. So I felt bad for him. He was a little rattled. And he's got a crazy, crazy trip ahead of him. So we had, it was a good mix of weather. The first day was, it was pure, like, lynx weather.

It was overcast. It was windy as shit. And it was probably like 52 degrees or something like that the whole day. Which was, you know me, I had been trying to prepare everyone properly for weeks. I was like, bring more clothes than you think. Make sure you have like an underarmor layer, then a polo, then like a thin overlayer and like a vest because you want to still be able to swing, but you need to have enough clothing. At no point, Lurch was like, boy, I wonder if I had booked my flights. I should probably do that.

During all this planning. Yeah. I had this whole itinerary set out. Oh, I know. You're an organized person. Big time. Big time. He just didn't even book his flights, which is, you know.

So did everyone prepare correctly? Did what they're with their? Everyone prepared correctly. Okay. And I said to them, I said, there's really no such thing. It's something my dad says, who's a big outdoorsman. He always says, trust me, there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing. Meaning if you're properly prepared, you will be comfortable in any weather, is what he says.

What about a tornado? I would call that a natural disaster, not necessarily weather. Okay. Well, kind of weather. But I see what you're saying. And if you, if you, like, prepare for that, then you'll be fine, too. Correct. There's no bad weather, there's just bad shelter.

Correct. You've got to have a basement. Yeah, and then in that basement, if you're wearing the proper. clothing you'll be comfortable. I think your dad's on it. It's kind of his point. So anyways, it was a super lynxy day. Incredibly lynx.

And all the guys that I was playing, you know, I've done the Scotland trip and I've been to ban and all that. So I've played some pretty lynxy-ass days. But they were all like, I know it's a little chilly and all that. They're like, this is so fucking awesome because this is pure lynx golf. It was like you'd play one par four downwind. That's like 380 and everyone's like almost driving the green. And then you'd play another one that's a similar whole, whole the opposite direction.

And it's like driver three iron wedge on like the same because it was so wind. windy. So we got that. What was the clip I saw? Was he putting off the T-box? Did I see that? Or was that, like 147 out he was using his putter?

There was my one buddy, Welchie, who, you know, he was, so we had two guys who offset both at like 22 handicaps or something around there. Yeah. And he was struggling so badly with his iron game

and his approach and it was so windy that he, on every par three, putted. I love that. Off the team. I think that's such a good move. Yep. I might do that as well.

I'm right there with Welchie. That's his name? Yep. I'm with him. I stand with Welchie. Smart. It looked like you had a pretty good shot in the least of the video that I saw. Totally.

He had a great shot. So there was some of that going on, but it was. And then the second day, and this is my Matt Janella tip that I picked up from Janella, booking a golf trip. And this is I had to convince everybody of this. But we took Friday morning, which is day, the second full day of the trip, completely off. We didn't have a tea time until 2 o'clock. Okay.

So everyone, you know, Wednesday, you travel, you get really excited, you stay up later than you think drinking. Thursday. 36 holes, links and cliffs. And then Friday, you just, everybody, you know, you drink all night, have a good time. And everybody just sleeps in. We hung out, went to the range. We chit-chatted. We hung out weather in the afternoon on Friday was fantastic.

It was sunny. It was like probably 58 degrees, sunny, less wind, but still a little windy. And then on Saturday morning, it was when we teed off, it was, I think, 41 degrees out. And you couldn't see 10 feet in front of you. Fog? It was so foggy. and everyone's like, man, the forecast looked like it was going to be great today. And everyone's like, I don't know if we're, because we were so hungover from Friday night.

Yeah. Everyone was like, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do this, man. And then our caddy Dylan, he had legit, the only thing he had on was his caddy, like, jump, like, jumpsuit. Right. That was the only thing he had on, which that thing is not like winter coat. It's just a loose caddy bit, basically. So we had to run to the field and get him like a jacket, like, gave him his jacket. He's like, don't worry, boys, I'm going to stay positive.

I'm not changing clothes because I know it's going to be really nice. Well, like an hour into it, the fog burned off, and it was like 58 degrees in sunny the whole day, which was awesome. And then yesterday we had it. It was probably 65 degrees. And the last round, the sun came out the whole time. So weather overall was pretty damn good. We didn't really get rained on, which is good. Dorian came through there like two days before we were there.

We're still dealing with Dorian? They were up there, yeah. Wow. Because they're, you know, east and north. So it was like, yeah, it was just, yeah, that's what we kept thinking, too, because I was looking at, like, their Instagram story a couple days before we were going. and it was like, whiz, oh, my God, there's a hurricane hitting hit that we're going. Turns out everything for the most part was all good.

I don't think they really had much damage or any of that. But it was really cool. Andrew, who's the GM up there, who takes care of us, gets us all set up, helps his book, is the absolute man. Arcadies, Dylan, Napper, Batesi are just a great, great, great time. You were getting a little emotional on the Twitter. Big time. You were emotional.

Big time. Seems like it was an emotional trip. You know, when you're with that, when you're with that close, of a crew and then you do the thing where like they were legit telling us and it's so funny he said this last time too Dylan and napper and our caddies they're like you know it what really sucks about this job is they're like guys like you come and we're like best friends for four or five days right they're like we we spend so much time together we tell stories we're betting on golf together we're high five and each other then we go out to the bar at night and we just like have such a good time

and then you guys are just gone forever is what he said yeah are they going through an emotional or every week. I mean, maybe you guys are a special group, but it feels like, like every catty experience that I've had has been great. Like, I've never had quite something like that. But when we were at Aaron Hills and I had Hanky Panky, I thought that guy was my best friend after the round. And we didn't, we weren't able to stick around.

We had to leave town so we couldn't go drink with them or whatever. But I can only imagine what that bond is like at the end of that week. Hanky Panky and I spent four or five hours together. And I was like, that's one of the coolest guys I've ever met. Totally. And now if we ever go back to Aaron Hills, I can obviously see him again. And that might get a little bit emotional. And you spending five days with these guys

that you obviously had a previous relationship with. I understand why you were in your feelings a little bit. I was in my feelings. Yeah. I was a little drunk on Twitter. That happens too. Which totally happens. But yeah,

they were saying that they're like, you know, it's not like every group that comes through isn't your best friends, but they're like, you get a lot of cool people who are here and like they're all happy the whole time. It's like they're happy, you're all having fun

and then they're just calling. And he's like, it's like, kind of sad. He's like, he start over again and like, you hope you get another good group the next couple days or whatever.

He's like, but it's just very sad that, like, you guys have to leave now. You guys go to a different country. You just head out. We're just, we're in a different country. And, like, when do you think the next time you'll be a cabot is? I'll, I'm going to make it my goal to try to go there every year. Yeah.

So, I mean, I imagine, you know, it'll be next year at some point. But Dylan was one, like, Dylan was in town, like a month ago, a couple weeks ago for the U.S. Open with his parents. He did a, he's a huge sports fan. And he was like, I want to see Federer. Oh, that's who you went to the U.S. Open. So he, I see. Yeah, he had been texting us.

And, like, you know, we stay in touch and all that, but it is just, it's a very cool thing about golf. And people talk about it, like, one of the best parts about it is different people that you meet. And, like, think about, like, even the guys when we were down at, like, Blue Jack, I mean, think how much fun of the day we read that day. Yeah. And, you know, like, it's like, if I lived in that town and played that course a lot, like, those guys would probably be some of my best friends in the world. Yeah. And so it's like you do get to meet all these people, but then it's like, it's just sad when you got to leave. It's so funny.

Frankie says it every time, and it becomes true and truer when we do these trips and we go to these golf courses, the worst part always ends up being the golf course. Or they're like us playing. Yeah. Because we're terrible. But you make these great friendships. You go to these unbelievable places. Cabin, those pictures are fucking ridiculous. Did you take your new camera?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you did. I guess how many pictures I took? I'm going to say 400. Okay. Is that too high? Did I take your steam? 3,000.

3,000? Took 3,000 pictures. Oh, my God. The first day alone I took 800. You were just going at it. Dude, it's so compact. You've seen it, obviously. Yeah.

You just keep it in your pocket like it. your phone and you whip it out and it is so quick like pocket to taking a picture it's like a second you're like a gunslinger and the zoom on it exactly i am it's like draw and i'm here i'm ready to go i'm getting these pictures and it's just like every time i look there was like another sick picture to be taken so i just i i pulled it out and just snapped pictures the whole time for like four days straight i just kept snapping pictures pictures and then we would go back to the villa after you know we do like a little pregame little musical towel time for lurch and i would upload that shit to my computer and scroll through and people were just like oh my god do you like top quality brand

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It's awesome. Yeah. I got the Mavik 2. I have the DJI Spark, which is the really little one you've seen that guy. Yeah. Tiny guy goes in my golf bag. You didn't even really notice it. I would say it's like the size of like an iPad, that thing.

The Mavik 2 that I have, it's Mavit 2 Pro, I think, is like a helicopter. Okay. It is fucking unbelievable this thing. Yeah. It goes way faster. The camera's way better. It's way quieter than you would think. It's so stable.

It's insane. It's awesome. And it's good. The battery life is way longer. Yeah. The spark, the battery life is. life is like 10, 15. Yeah, I remember that thing running out pretty quickly.

10 minutes probably if you're actually flying and there's a little bit of wind and you're actually flying and like filming the whole time, it's like maybe even under 10 minutes. Okay. The MAMIC is like 35 minutes. Damn. It feels like you're filming. And you got to use that at Cabot? Yep.

Fucking hey. It was cool. 3,000 pictures. I took 3,000 pictures. That's just on my camera. Took a bunch of my phone. Yeah. It was cool.

Those would be good to have though. That's like, whenever you send us those files after we get done, it's like, oh, that's nice. Like, that's just a nice thing to have. It is such a cool. cool thing to have. I'm like, you know, I don't want to sit here and have to do this to Trent Daddy the whole time. You're going to show me a few pictures. Some of these photos, man, I mean, the quality on these things is just off the charts, like the Zoom feature. You've got that with like the guys

coming in. It's what it really does. Are those like the place you stay? Sorry, I know it's a podcast, but these are the villas here. So you stay in like these villas. Those look great. They're really, really cool. And I'm going to, so what I'm going to do, a lot of people requesting this. So I'm to basically take like look at those look at that picture fire look those shadows shadows are cool yeah they are i'm going to take like hundreds of these pictures and just throw them all into a blog be like here are all my photos from cabot it's a great idea i think people love that but uh but yeah i got new toys are my two uh you know pieces the the new drone and the uh the camera so i got the sony rx 100 version six for anybody out there it's asking it's really quick takes great photos

you really don't have to learn much to learn how to use it i didn't know anything i didn't read anything. I just like kind of winged it and you figured out. A couple issues that happened, but for the most part, pretty easy. Just kind of wing it. And then, um, and then the Mavik 2. And, um, and then for any while there he's going to try to get the same package. My boy, John Kevler at Link's gems told me to get like this pat, like this starter pack package or something like that for the Mavik 2, which is like 300 bucks,

$350, which gives you like two more batteries, a bunch of filters, a carry case and all that that makes it easier. So I ordered that too. That didn't come in in time for the trip so I only had one battery on the trip but whatever all right a bunch of new toys those are my new toys that's pretty cool spent like three grand at best buy they still got best buys best buy there's one not far from my apartment that's wild to me oh jakes's looking like I'm crazy I buy everything you didn't know they have best buy I think it's like blockbuster I do think that aren't isn't everything going the way of a blockbuster we don't have to I don't have to leave my couch I can have anything I want delivered you're right but I just think electronics like that are pretty are like too high in that you

want to see it work. I love Best Buy. We used to go there. They would have like the Xbox 360s or when the original Xbox were coming out. You just go there and play like Madden. I love it. I love Best Buy.

You know what they used to have? I had subs in my car in high school. You were a 10-inch sub-s guy. I'm a big hip-hop guy. I love subwoofers. I had a 1985 Chevy Caprice that my grandma gave to me. It's a real, it's a great car. Tell me got some pictures of that thing.

I do probably have him somewhere. I got to see that. But, uh, Trent Mobile. But when I was trying to figure out what subs I wanted to buy, they had an audio section at Best Buy where they just had walls of subwoofers and you could just go listen to them. That was my favorite part of Best Buy. You could just be like, play this song on these subs and just do-d-d-do. That's what my car looked up.

Yeah, so we just pulled, Andrews pulled up a photo of your car. You bumping around like high school parking lot with that car. You won't believe it. That one right there that we're looking at. It's a four-door. Mine was a two-door. Come on. Wars weighed 800 pounds each.

We would accidentally door ding people all the time. We would, you know, smoke a little bit of the devil's lettuce. We listen to the music with the subs. That's her right there. God, I miss that car. That is beautiful. It was an 85. I would have, I got the car in 2001.

That's when I turned 16. But my grandma, she would drive it to, like, get groceries. So it was in great condition. Not a ton of miles on it. Not a ton of rust. I love that car. I cannot wait until they Photoshop. Trent Daddy sitting in that car.

Oh, and the seats were plush. They were carpet seating. I had dice hanging from the rearview mirror. Dude, I love that car. I miss it. I got rid of it. The only reason I got rid of it was because when the government ran a cash for clunkers deal, where they're trying to get the, you know, if your car only goes so far with mileage,

mine got like two miles to the gallon. I mean, it was a gas guzzler. So I turned it in for like three grand. I bought some shitty Chevy coal. A bad little exchange rate of you guys. Well, that's the thing. If I had sold it without the government deal, I would have gotten like $150 for it. But I got $3,000 for it, had to put it towards a new car.

but 1985 Chevy Caprice all black dice hanging from the mirror two subs in the back boy oh boy was it was cruising fun I want to say Lurch got rid of like his like you know younger life stage car like a year ago it was this sob that he had and he was like trying and figure out how to sell it all that one guy one like website he found was like 300 bucks we'll come pick it up you'll never have to worry about it again Lurge was like done yeah you just got to explore your options you'll you'll figure it out I miss that car it was like when you drive on the highway going like 65. It wasn't meant to go too fast,

but it felt like you're on air. You're just like, it didn't have power steering. It was just the gas gauge broke. I'd run out of gas all the time. Man, that's great. I love that car. I miss it.

I cannot wait to see you photoshopped into that picture that I just looked at. The one I had was all black. It was a two-door tinted windows. I felt like the coolest guy in the world. So anyway, Best Buy. It's great. Best Buy is great on the senses.

You go in there, like the visuals, the sound. It's just cool to be in there. You get all the TVs, different sizes. They're like displaying everything. Then like you said, there's like the speaker area where you can go over there and like test the different sound quality on the speakers.

You feel like you're in a fucking concert. It's just like a Best Buy is very cool. You should go hang out of Best Buy trend day. I wouldn't even know where to find one right now. Are they having them in Manhattan? Google it. Oh, there's one nearby. Maybe I'll go wander around a little bit.

You should go in there. It's nice. It's a good time. I like Best Buy. Like I said, it's, you know, it feels nostalgic to me. All right, headlines. We're going to rip through some headlines. Kevin Chappell, Chappie, our buddy, shot a 59 on the PGA tour, his first event back on the PGA tour since his back surgery.

We had him on springtime, maybe right around master's time, a couple weeks before the Masters, somewhere around there. Yeah, that was, I remember when we talked to him a little bit off air, just being like, what are you up to me? He's just like, nothing. I'm just sitting. Nothing. I'm just sitting on my couch. We're like, damn, that's kind of sad. So to see him come out and shoot a 59.

That's pretty cool. He was pretty emotional about after the 59. He, you know, he had like 10 months ago, I believe he had the back. issue. We had the surgery. We kind of chirped him on the show for having non-fusion back surgery. His deal was like he wasn't anywhere near as bad as Tiger, but still a back issue was like, you can't move. He can't function. Everybody knows that. So we had the back surgery. And at that point, anybody, and he was saying this, anybody who has like a back surgery, a back issue is like, it's always going to cross your mind of like, am I going to be able to like play my sport at the

highest level ever again? He was a PG at Twart winner. He was on that President's Cup team from 2017 as well like he's a fucking really really good player one of the better players in the world and so that always crossed your mind and then he's got you got to go through those months and months of not being able to play not being able to like train because you're just trying to recover and all that that long road he finally came back he was able to play in the corn fairy tour finals uh and then he's uh he played obviously in the green briar and shot a 59 59 he also could have been a 58 could have easily been a 58 He had a great story we were just talking about before the show where he says he never will, once he makes a birdie, he'll swap out the ball every time.

He only believes that there's one birdie in each golf ball. Yeah. Love that. Any kind of like weird, superstitious stuff we love on this show. It's so funny because when we play, if you make a birdie or you make, or you have a good hole, you're like, I'm never losing this ball. Never. I'm going to use it forever. Like if I imagine making a birdie and being like, all right, new ball.

There's only one birdie in that ball. If I make a birdie ever, I think there's a million birdies in that ball. It's like this ball is special. Wow, it let me get a birdie. So he's just like, eh, all right, I got a birdie. I'm going to move on to the next one. Swapped him out. He had so many birdies that he ran out of new balls and had to go back to the old ones,

and he ended up blaming them not shooting 58 on that. Made nine birdies in a row. In a row. I don't have nine all summer. No. He's got nine in a row. I think it tied the PJ tour record for most birdies in a row. It's got to be right up there.

That's off the charts. 59. And then. He's got a great beard too. phenomenal beard. And then in a classic kind of four-play guy fashion, his other rounds were 71, 59, 73, 72. I love that.

All right. We've been talking so much lately about, you know, the biggest spreads between rounds or even between nine holes. We had some people saying, like, I shot 52 here, and then 39 in the back. I think the whole conversation started when J.B. Holmes went like 65, 87 at the British Open. Yeah. Ricky Fowler did it last year at Chinook.

I think he went like six. 65, 82, or something like that. And you've got 71, 59, 7372. Going 59-73, 73, there's no way that 59 could be a negative. But you got to look at that after that 73, like, what am I doing? Like, what am I doing out here that's different? I know we talked about it maybe last episode or a couple ago where our good shots and bad shots feel exactly the same.

You had that shot out there at Liberty on the part three. You were like, that felt great. And they landed 40 yards into the water. It wasn't even close. But like, I would be very curious. We could ask Chappie, obviously, he was one of our. boys like what did what would you feel differently on the 59 and the 73 because that's such a big difference like I said there's going to be no negatives on a 59 but to shoot a 73 the next day

you got to be thinking this is the hardest sport in the world you know I like we have that feeling all the time of like okay I I figured it out or as as Matthew Fitzpatrick said on this show his buddy who's a big golfer always texted him like I'm back I'm back I went to the range I'm back yep you found it and that's a That's that feeling after you play a really good round of golf. You're like, I got it now. I know the secret. Like, I figured it out.

This is my game. And then you'll go out the next day, and you're just like four holes in. You are the most lost person on the planet. Like, where was it? Where, how? Like, I had it. I fucking had it. And it's gone now.

And I would be very curious to see if somebody, like Kevin Chappell. I mean, I know conditions were tougher. That's what a lot of people were saying. I was at Cab and I wasn't paying a ton of attention to anything in the world except for that place. But I know the conditions were tougher and all that. But outside of that, I mean, that's a four. 14 shot difference. Right.

For somebody who's playing well, clearly. Yeah. And you're just like, I shot a 59. And it's, again, there's no negative in it. But it's like, I can play well. I can shoot a 59. And then I'm going to come out here and shoot a 73. Like you said, the course conditions sounds like they were a little bit harder.

But still, that's 14 shot difference. And it's just like, damn, I thought I was playing really well. Damn. Kevin Chappell, he also, he welcomed us, myself and Frankie, when we did our Pacific Northwest trip. First course we played up there. We played Aldera, which is his home course up in the Seattle area. it was awesome. We recorded pretty much every single shot

and put it into a video on YouTube so you can go watch that. Chapie was there. He couldn't hit balls yet. He did hit a handful of wed shots that he said that he didn't want us to post because I think he was going to get like in trouble with his doctor. He had a handful of wed shots and no joke.

Every one of them from like, he was hitting him anywhere from like 100 to like 60 yard wed shots. Every one of them was a gimmie. He hit him to like a foot every time. We were like, holy fuck. He's like, no, I'm coming back with a vengeance this year. And then he shot 59. Followed up in 73.

I think Frankie said he tweeted that Chappie was wearing an Aldera hat when he shot us 59. Yeah, the A, really cool logo. Super cool. Great place and a really cool video, and he's the fucking man. So go watch that video of us and Chappie. He's betting against me the whole time, betting against us. You guys are going to three putt here. Here's three to one odds.

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Again, this was actually in the mornings when we woke up and we were kind of getting ready for our rounds. We were able to catch some of it while we got cabin because they're like four or five hours ahead over there. But all-time event, all-time finish. Suzanne Pederson, she has like an eight-foot or whatever it was on the last hole. last match out there. Last one up for grabs. Has to win for them to win it because if you tie, then the U.S. retains the cup because we won the last one.

Cans it, walk off can putt to win the whole damn thing and then announces she's retiring. Unreal. That's like a movie. That was out real. I was stunned when I saw it. My jaw dropped. She's like I made it.

Her celebration afterwards was great. She lost her mind as she should. She was very classy. She hugged who she was playing. And then, yeah, I mean, to retire after that, that's as cool as it gets. And I wanted to say about Bronte La, I think we created a monster. Watching her highlights this week, she was making putts and she was just walking away from them when they were like four feet left. That might be hyperbole, but she was, she's a savage.

She was walking in putts like 10 feet out. It was some of the cockiest should have ever seen. She is a savage. She is a savage on the golf course. And she's screaming like she's a warrior out there. It was, I would have been intimidated if I had to play with her. I saw her today too. She's still posting Instagram stories of them like drunk at the airport.

Yeah, she's like drinking like Bloody Mary's. And champagne. Living the life. Yeah. We had her on the show two weeks ago. She was cool as hell. Big collar. We chirped her about being like a big caller daddy fan.

Daddy gang. She wears like one of the collar daddy, like the grade me hoodies around the airport and shit. I should have known that right then and there. Oh no. Savage. That girl's a savage. It's just like I'm going to be one of the best players in this goddamn Solheim Cup and I'm going to rip your hearts out. One of the coolest events in golf, the Solheim Cup.

The crowds were awesome. Glen Eagles looked incredibly. It presented incredibly well. on TV as it always does over there. You get like the Scottish countryside and all that. So it was just really, really cool. Julie Inkster also afterwards on the other side of retiring, she was just like, they asked her you going to be captain for the fourth time.

She said, I think I'm going to quit a while in the head. So she's done with the Salheim Cup. Good for her. She was two and one captain three times. There's a ton of stress. I mean, you can tell the way she was talking about it. There's like a ton of work that goes into it and all that. You know, picking the girl.

Danielle Kang was out there. She's, you know, she was getting everybody fired up to. She's a savage as well. We've had her on the show like four or five times. Yeah. She is the original People's Lady Golfer. People's Lady Golfer. Yeah.

I think maybe Shane Bacon tweeted about it. She's got a great fist pump or, yeah. Really good one. Like it's not, you think there's only like one or two. You think of Tiger, obviously. Everybody's got a different one. She's got one that she like throws it like a whip. Yes.

And golf, I mean, golfers are infamous for sucking at celebrations. Really bad. Fist pumps, everything else. They just suck in general at them. So for her to have a great one, it stands out, big time. She was, when we had her on earlier this year, you know, she pretty much was like the Solheim Cup is what I live for. So anyways, really, really, really cool event. Congrats to the Europeans and the People's women's Euro golfer.

People's Euro lady golfer is Bronte law. I don't know how many possessives we need. That's where it confuses me. People's Euro lady golfer. Okay. That's who she is. She wears cool shoes. She got six shoes.

Absolutely six shoes. Brooks Kevka did not win the PGA Tour. player of the year. Roy McElroy did. Look, the two of them both had, you know, phenomenal years. Rory won the players championship. And he, of course, went on and won the tour championship, all that, all that money. Brooks Kevka won a major championship and was inches away from winning the other three. And had other wins. So it's like, I think a major should trounce everything. I think that if you ask Rory or Brooks Kepka, I think Rory would probably take Brooks Kepka's year

would be my guess. I was tweeting about that because I think major championships, that's how you stack up. Brooks Kepka himself says that. So I don't know how you would rather not have that. I do understand the tour championship. But it's funny. People are like, count,

and like, well, you did win the tour champion on it. But those are the same people that are like, this is just a dumb money grab thing where they throw money at it. It's like, well, now you're giving it like this elevated status. And then the same thing about the players championship. I mean, everybody, everybody talks about it as the fifth major. which is a big knock to the John Deere Classic,

which you call the fifth major. Which it is. Somebody on, I'm blanking on the guy's name right now, but he's a golf channel analyst, the guy that he bring in sometimes, and he said that the John Deer is the fifth major. I'm completely blanking on the guy's name,

but somebody tweeted the clip of me, shout out to that guy. If I can remember his name at some point in this podcast, I'll give him a shout-up, because it is the fifth major. We're going to go to the John Deer Classic. Because they said, they were talking about Zach Johnson,

and they were like, oh, he won the Masters, he won the British Open at St. That's a great place to win your major. and then he was also like, well, he's actually got three because he won the John Deere Classic. He's got three majors. It's spread like wildfire, and you are right. We are going to go to the John Deer Classic.

I don't know if that's confirmed or anything, but in my heart of hearts, we're going next year. John Deer Classic, I hear out there listening. You guys give Trent Geer and shit all the time. We're going to try to come. Our plan is to be there next year. I think it's a great idea. Part of that, what I want to say about this Breskekeke thing,

you think any of the PJ tour is kind of like, hey, you shit on our events all season. We're just, we're going to give it to Roar. Maybe. I really think that could be. be a big part of it. Like when you're just basically, you make a point to, in every media session, when anybody asks to you, us included, like, do you really care about these smaller events and he basically says, no, I only get up for the majors? Well, then the PJ Tour is probably going to look at

that and be like, all right, then yeah, maybe you, because of majors, maybe you thought you had a better year, but we're going to give it to Rory. Yeah, no, I agree. I think, what are we looking at here? Oh, there we go. Robert Damron. He was the guy who said that the genre classic is a fifth major. So shout out to that guy. Yeah, that's your guy. Yeah. That's your guy. You got to feel good about that. I do. Cling to that, buddy. The more people say it, the funnier and truer I think it becomes.

And I think that if the John Deer Classic wants to spice up marketing a little bit, one, we do the thing that we talked about a couple weeks ago, where you make it the testing ground for timing players and shot clocks and it's turned into a full total circus. And range finders, all that stuff. But also, maybe just work in fifth major into the marketing and just make it seep into people's brains. Look, any tournament that has that gigantic of a tractor hitting a T-shot, I can't take seriously.

I just can't do it, man. I'm sorry. But I do want to go check it out. I cannot wait to be there next year. I really do. 20-year-old Neiman wins the Greenbrier. 20 years old, man. 20 years old.

That's pretty good. Imagine being able to win by like six. Yeah. Yes. Imagine being able to dominate on the PGA tour, PGA tour event by six shots in your 20 years. I couldn't do, I mean, I couldn't dress myself when I was 20 years. I was 20 years old. No, I was a mess when I was 20.

But whenever I see somebody this young win a tournament like this, or at least play well in the tournament, and obviously he won, I go back to when we talked to Patrick Harrington on this very podcast, many moons ago. It was quite an interview. We were on a delay. He was in another part of the world. People don't understand that interview.

It was like a four-second delay. So it was almost like we were emailing him the questions, and then he was emailing us back. 100%. Like, yeah, Patrick, like tell us about this shot. You hit at the open. And we sat here like this. Oh, yeah.

It was great. Yeah, it was early on, but we got Patrick Harrington, so we were pumped up about it. But I remember him saying, like, early on in his career, one of the biggest things for him was when he didn't even win, but he finished like in the top 25 and was like, oh, I can do this. Like the confidence that that gives you. So now imagine being a guy like Neiman, you're 20 years old. You got to be nervous. You know, you're just starting your career, but then you win. He's just going to be like, oh, I can do this now.

I can win. I can play well. I can make a living. This is going to be my life now. That's got to be a fantastic feeling. And if you believe in golf, that's everything. It is. Even if you just believe on the T.

Like, you're like, oh, I'm going to rip this down the fairway. It's amazing how often it happens. You don't think about how to do that, what you're going to do with your swing. You just think that. And it's like, oh, shit, I just, I thought it into existence. Like, even if you have a terrible shot or a terrible round or a terrible tournament, Neiman can always think back and be like, oh, I can win out here. That's an incredible, right.

It's an incredible thing to be able to fall back on. Sergio Garcia won on the European tour. That's psychopath is out there winning tournaments. That's kind of crazy to me. I don't like when he's making headlines for this. I like when he's throwing fits and stuff. Me too. He's winning again.

What is it? Like his 16th European title? Cool, man. You're great. You're a good golfer. You got your masters and you're still freaking out about little things. You're making mess and bunkers. It's a mess.

Saudi Arabia. He hates bunkers in Saudi Arabia and he hates greens over there. That was when he was just scuffing up greens on purpose and got kicked out of the golf tournament. Oh, and the British, he just slammed his club, his driver down. Big time. On a T-box. Super hard slam. And then he also does the thing, which we've talked about on the show before, too, where you'll go look at

social media and he's always every everything he posts he's with like a baby and then he's with like a military veteran like everything that he posts it's pure like propaganda yeah it's north korea over there it's hard to it's hard to crack that but you know he got another win good for him you know sergio gersia still still relevant in the golf world one of the great stories in four play history was frankie burelli witnessing sergey rick Garcia win his first major championship at the masters in 2017 and Frankie waving his hat in the air like he was a sailor leaving going off like on the titanic another great four-play story from that same masters was we saw him publics when we that was the first masters we went to right so we went that year and we were at the publics getting a bunch of food

for the house or wherever we stayed i can't remember now and we saw sergey garcia checking out buying like i don't know like a six pack of beer like a bottle of wine and some meat and cheeses and we're like oh man that's sergeo garcia boom a couple days later he wins the whole goddamn thing I mean, it was surreal that that was like the first person that we really saw. We couldn't believe it was Sergio that was just standing right in front of our face because we had just started doing that. We're like, he's just checking out buying groceries. And then he won the fucking master.

It's at that moment where you realize that Augusta is such a small town. And it's just so little and everybody shops in the same places when they're in town. Yeah, we saw Sergio Garcia. So if we ever go to the Masters again and you're a professional golfer, we should probably be the first person you see if you want to win. Tiger Wood did a little classic Tiger move where he's really. wrote this blog post, scratched out signing it, scratched out captain and wrote playing captain in there instead. There's no way Tiger doesn't play in there. No, he doesn't. There's just no way.

I mean, he's going, he will absolutely play in that thing. We said if you don't think he's playing in that, you're one of the dumbest people in the world. I said that like a month or two ago. He's obviously going to play. Also, him in Justin Timberlake matching, I believe, $6 million to Bahamas to the relief. Love it and all that. Albany, he's obviously a big Bahamas guy. I'm a huge Bahamas guy. I love Abico. It's my favorite places in the world. We were there with Darren Clark, hung out with him, played a couple golf holes with him, saw him at the bar, one of the most spectacular places I've ever been. So go, you know, if you're so inclined to go help out to the Bahamas Relief Fund, like all these folks are doing, Abika, like I said, is one of my favorite place. A lot of the

employees and all that lose their houses. So if you're so inclined, go check that out, go figure out how you can help and donate and help out because it's incredibly important. And they got, I mean, that Dorian just hovered over them for like days. Yeah, I'd never, I don't have ever seen a hurricane do something like that. They said the winds were like 200 miles per hour, but it was moving one mile per hour as it was going over the Bahamas. So, yeah, they got, they got devastated. When does Tiger, when is he's going to make the rest of these picks? Do we know?

Okay. November 4th. Okay. I just, I just wait for. The tournament's so late this year. Right. It's in December. It's in December.

I'm just like, wait, like, let's just, I want him to do another one of these blog posts and just say, like, I'm picking Kevin Kisner. Let's just get that out of the way. Me too. I'm done stressing about it. You're going to start our campaign for Kiz? I think we do. Kiz has got to be there. I think it feels like pretty much a lock already, but I think we got to start throwing

our weight around being like boss man. Kevin Kisner, Australia, let's do it. Imagine if we had that kind of weight to throw around. I mean, we got a decent amount of weight. We got a lurch. We got literally and figuratively because we got $750,000. We helped out Kevin Kisner's fund. We got a little bit of weight.

People know what we're doing it on the internet. Total ricochet shot I just took it lurch there. You did. Look, if you're not going to be on here for the show, you're probably going to get roasted. You're going to catch, you're going to catch stuff. That's just what happens. We can't help it. It's not our fault.

We're here. We're here. We're here to work. We're working. You got, you what? You got it at 7 a.m. 3.45 a.m. Wake up call.

Yeah. 3.45. I can't tell you how fucking stunning that moment was when my alarm went off. I got a full eight. Eight hours. I got a full eight hours. I got a drunken, hungover, incredibly exhausted, probably two hours. I watched.

No, yeah, I got eight. I got eight. I watched the Alec Baldwin roast and then I went to bed. I did catch up on Succession. What a show. I'm two episodes in. Wow. I know.

I've been two episodes in for like three weeks. I don't know why I don't just... I will say it only gets way better. Yeah. I already like it. I already like it. It gives me anxiety, the family like that. It freaks me out, but I'm going to power through it.

I'm going to watch it. It is an interesting show where nobody likes any of the characters. All of the characters like suck. Yeah, my roommate, Robbie Fox is watching. He said I hate every single one of these characters. All of them. That usually makes for like a good TV show, though. Like, I kind of felt.

that way about breaking bad a little bit. A lot of those characters on there. I was just like, these are all really bad people. Especially the one that we're supposed to like the most, which is Walter White. He's like a drug dealing murderer. Correct. And he's like the most like he's very likable. Everybody's like, come on.

The worst guy ever. Like if you flip it, you should feel bad for Skyler, but you're like, Skyler, why are you getting in this guy's way of dealing all this meth and causing a complete mess around your family? Skyler was a bitch. But like, yeah. But in a real life scenario, she would be the one where it's like, yeah, she's obviously right.

Yeah, but she's a bitch. You will get no argument from me on that one. Total bitch. Yeah. You don't like Skylar. Nobody does. Do you? No.

Thank you. No, I don't. That's what I thought. Okay. I'm going to watch it. We'll talk more about it when you catch up. All right, that's it. We now have... You got to save it. They say if you use it, that's how, like, it only gets worse.

You lose it. So I didn't know what I had. And it's hard to test it. Like, when am I going to stand in my room alone and, like, talk out loud? That's fucking weird. You're like, you're like a Dell or something, like getting ready for a big performance. Right. And I will say your voice, like, when you have a, when you kind of lost your voice a little bit.

And you use it in really sparse spurt. It sucks when you do use it because you haven't, you can't like. It's like, correct. And now I've kind of hit a groove and we're rolling. Yeah, you sound great. It's a good sign because I're going to do radio. Oh, yeah. Two hours are going to talk.

All right. I'm just going to dish. I'm going to be dishing the ball. Good move. Yeah, because my voice sucks right now. Okay. Daniel Burger's up next. Good interview.

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Mr. Daniel Berger. Daniel, first of all, what's going on? What are you up to today? What's on the schedule? On the schedule, just got done practicing and headed to the gym now, so pretty standard day. I got to get out in front of this. If it sounds like I've been on a five-day bender, it's because I have.

Yeah, no benders for me. You've got to get back into the grind. Yeah, you're grinding, so I was curious because, you know, it's golf off-season. I say that with air quotes because there's no real off-season. but you know, you're grinding hard right now. It's not an R&R. It's not a hangout session. You're grinding, it sounds like, trying to get back into it.

Championship and the chilling time is over. Now it's back into grind mode and play a couple events in a row then. So, yeah, man, I'm playing every day and practicing and just really trying to just get back to where I was. What's Daniel Berger do at the gym? What's your routine? I actually do a little bit of everything, man. I do some core. I need some cardio.

I lift a little bit. I do a lot of mobility stuff. Same trainer for about 10 years now since I was in college. So a lot of the stuff is repetitive, but really the main focus of going in the gym for me is just trying to stay injury-free. You know, I'm not trying to – I'm not on the Brooks Kevka to get huge program. I feel like I need to stretch more. Do you do a lot of stretching?

I feel like I'm the least flexible person in the world. Yeah, I mean, it's important, especially when you're playing, you know, 30 weeks of year. You got to do everything you can to not get hurt. And that's probably one of the biggest things. What's chilling time look like? You said, you know, chilling time's over. What do you do off the golf course? What do you do when you're not grinding? Oh, man, call of duty. I'm living on the water. I love being on the water. Jet ski the other day, so I've been ripping that thing around a little bit and literally anything that's on the water I'll do. Just a huge water guy. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I grew up on the water. So that's good.

kind of where that's kind of where my downtime goes to anything on the water. Speaking of water, big debate on the show. Yep. Tap water versus bottled water. Are you a tap water guy or you only drink bottled water? Dude, I don't think I've drank tap water in like 10 years. You're on the Frankie train. I only drink bottle water.

Yeah, you're on the Frankie train. He's like shames us for drinking tap water. He says we're like peasants for doing that. I don't know, but I think it tastes different. Okay. I mean, that's kind of going against what I've been arguing for you two weeks straight. do you think it's less clean than bottled water or what's your main beef with it? I do think it's less clean.

Like, I don't know if there's like scientific studies to prove it, but... You know, we can't figure out the science either because we've had everything from guys calling in, emailing in, shaming all the different water bottle companies and then other people just pure propaganda. Do you have like a specific bottled water type that you like? Some people, like we were shitting on Poland Springs saying it's trash. Yeah. Yes. If that would be the best water to print Amazon weekly program where I just get it shipped in every week.

And that's what's in my fridge every day, Fiji. My man, that's my go-to-to-to-do. I think that's a top of the, in terms of bottle of water, I think that's about as nice as you can get. Fiji, it's a great bottle. It's a great logo. I think that's number one. It's got such a nice look to it. Yeah.

A little flower thing they put on there. It's great. So obviously, you know, it wasn't really the year. I think that you won, especially coming off of a couple years prior with a couple wins. What do you got to change? What are we focusing on? Because, again, you can kind of tell you're saying I'm grinding. Clearly you're focused.

You want to get back out there. You want to kind of get going back in the right direction. So what's Daniel Berger got to do, you know, this off season or this period right now? What are you trying to correct? What are you trying to prove upon going in the next year? The whole year last year I played pretty much. It never really got better to treatment. It was a whole year.

It was not a too much because it was just kind of like adding to the fuel for me. But I finally feel healthy and I finally feel like I can do the things that I need to do to play the way that I play. It's just crazy how, like, one small little thing can play such a big role in how you feel in your confidence. Is there anything, any aspect of your game that we're really focusing on? And if so, like, how do you go about that? Is it all swing coaches, a ton of video?

What's kind of your method? I mean, honestly, my method's pretty simple. Like, I don't look at video. I don't look at any of that stuff. I really trust my coaches to kind of, And, you know, this year I started working a little bit with Cameron McCormick out in Dallas, and he's been a great influence. He's really helped me with the short game and the putting.

And just trying to get better in all aspects. I feel like, you know, when you're a professional golfer and you're trying to be the best, I mean, maybe other than like Tiger in 2000, where I don't really know if you can beat better than that, you're always trying to improve on some aspect. That's kind of been my goal, is just get a little bit better everywhere. So do you still never watch golf? Dude, I never watch golf. I want to say it's boring because it's not boring to watch, but I don't know.

I got too much golf in my life. The last thing I want to do is turn on the TV and watch golf. What about, like, your boys? If some of your boys are in the mix, that doesn't make you be like, all right, I'm going to flip it on and see how, you know, JT's doing or whoever. Dude, I honestly don't follow it, man. I don't even have the DJ tour app on my phone. Or is in golf, as you constantly can be. But every once in a while, you know, I'll see, like, Instagram or a tweet or someone, and I'll see that they're

playing well and I'll send a text or something. But other than that, it's like I couldn't I couldn't tell you who won the Greenbrier last week. You know what I mean? Well, I mean, there's a lot of good things. Netflix is available. There's Hulu. There's HBO. Succession is a great show. I don't know if you're watching that.

But there's, you know, there's so many options. Golf just isn't the top one for you, and I think that's okay. No, no, it's not. I'm a, like, I go hard on Netflix. I go really hard on Amazon front. Anything on demand? I'll sit in front of my TV and watch What show

What show do you watch most recently? On and off. On and off. Let's clarify that. Most recently now, I mean, I've been watching ballers. I've been watching billions. I mean, I like Californication. I mean, anything like Ray Donovan, all those kind of those bin shows.

I mean, I can literally sit there and watch 10 episodes in a row and not move from the couch. That's our generation. That's it. That's what we do. We don't go outside. We don't do any of that. We just, you know, some of us are professional golfers. some of us are bloggers, but, you know, we all just sit on the couch and watch TV.

That's what we do. Listen, man, that's the best way other than being on the water for me to relax. So those are the two things, watching Netflix and going on the boat. That's what you do. You binge watch and you just go on the water. That's a good life. That's a sick life. That's a great time.

So I understand it correctly. You didn't even play on your high school golf team. Is that right? Yeah, I didn't play high school. I may have played, like, my freshman year of high school, and then I qualified for some AJGA events that I didn't qualify for when I was younger, and the coach of the high school team kind of like made me pick, and I was like, I'm playing a knee.

He was like, so he was pretty much like, all right, well, you're not on the team then. I was like, all right, sounds good. I mean, it sounds like you had a contentious relationship with your high school golf. I did, I did. I don't even remember his name. I just remember me being like, I'm going to play in what I want to play in. This is what I want to play in. Yeah, just keep it simple.

So are you that into golf? You know, watch golf. Didn't play your high school golf. Do you like love golf or is it more just like this is what I'm good at and this is what I make a bunch of money at? Four or five years I was like, just kind of sitting around at home doing nothing. And I was like, man, I really like playing golf. You know, like this is, I couldn't see myself doing anything else. And so I think my perspective has probably changed a little bit over the years, but definitely love it more than I thought I did.

Yeah, so the threat of it going away, potentially forever, makes you like it more. I see. And, yeah, when I was doing nothing at home and I was just waiting to come back and play, I was like, man, I really like this. I've seen both sides of it. So let's get into the President's Cup, 2017. You know, you guys just overall as a team absolutely trounce the internationals. How fun was that just kicking their ass that badly?

It might have been the best. It's like just the whole team atmosphere, like, because, you know, it's such an individual sport, and you're always going out there trying to, you know, pronounce teammates with. So to, like, actually have some of these guys as your teammates and be rooting for them. It's just nothing that I've ever experienced. What's Tiger like in the team room? He is, but he's, I think, misunderstood compared to the way, you know, people in the media seem, like, he's, he's normal, and he's just a guy's guy, you know?

He's fun to hang out with, and obviously on the golf course competing against him is different than, you know, being in a team room and, you know, him being a cat, a great dude. Do you guys play any ping pong? I feel like ping pong is what always gets talked about at the Team USA team events. We did. We played a bunch of ping pong. I played Phil a bunch, and my ping pong game is really solid, but, like, I'm used to using a sandpaper paddle, and they only had those, like, rubber paddles. and Phil put like a bunch of spit on the paddle and like I had zero chance of meeting him. And then I got a sandpaper paddle and it was a different story.

But like I lost a lot of money in the first two days that we were there. Controversy, paddle controversy. That's so Phil, I'm just making sure that he's going to set it up. Paddle controversy. All right. There's something we can all agree on. Nurses, doctors, dentists. Shout out to my dad who work in medicine and health care are pretty awesome.

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I think that was on Saturday and we go out there to Maho and beat them even worse. Really like looking at it now, it's like way more pedestrian comment than I remembered it being. But it took a lot of flack for that. Do you think people were just too soft out there? People these days are just really soft. And I mean, we're competing. We're playing a sport where we're trying to beat another team. Like, I don't know someone that would say otherwise.

And if they did say otherwise, then they really don't meet it, and they're just trying to be politically correct. But, I mean, every single person on the international team was thinking the same thing I was thinking, sort of the way I felt. But that's how I've always been raised. Like, anything that I've ever done, I've tried to be the best. I definitely wouldn't. When you say something like that, and then you get the backlash that sort of comes along with something like that,

Does it make you less inclined to say things like that to the media? Or do you just sort of, you're just going to plow through and you're going to continue to kind of say in whatever you want? It was both ways. You know, obviously you don't want people to be, you know, bad-mouthing you. But, I mean, you've got to be honest. Like, if someone asks you a question, you give them an honest response. And that was the way I felt at the time, and I still feel that way now.

But I don't get asked too many of those difficult questions, so I'm lucky. I mean, it would have been weird if you would have been like, yeah, I hope we don't win today. then it gets way closer to us. That would have been weird. Yeah, yeah. You know, I hope, you know, we lose the first six matches and it's really close. And, you know, their TV ratings are really well.

But in the end, you know, I hope we just squeak one out. That would have been weird. I'm glad you didn't say that. Yeah. So another debate we've gotten into with a lot of people on Twitter is that we say golfing or golfed. I golfed. We golfed the other day. Do you think that's, like, wildly incorrect and ridiculous?

Or is that something you would say? Like, if I'm talking to one of my buddies or I'm asking what they want to do, I'm like, you know, do you want to play some, I just call it G. I like that. A lot of my buddies do that, too. Let's play some G. We're going to play some G this weekend. You ever get into tennis?

I think like, go ahead. I play a lot of tennis. So was it like your dad was like a top 10 player in the world or something like that? That's pretty good tennis jeans. Yeah, pretty good tennis jeans. I mean, honestly, I wish I was a. professional tennis player, but, you know, I just, I got stuck with golf and I just got to deal with it. But I've been lucky to meet a lot of, you know, really, really cool professional tennis players.

And like I said, man, I wish I was a professional tennis player, to be honest. I like that. Just because you like tennis more? You're more invest in the game of tennis? Or why is tennis better than golf for you? I don't know, man. It just feels way more athletic than golf. Like, you know, running.

and hitting and serving and like golf is like the ball is just sitting there and it's just like hit it you know what I mean and I also like that tennis is like one on one you know like me against you kind of deal like heads up where golf is more like all right I got you know 152 people and the guy that shoots the best score over four days wins instead of being like all right this is the guy I'm playing today all I got to do is get through you nothing else matters kind of deal but um I mean yeah That's why I like tennis. Do you try to play mind games with yourself out there on the golf course to try to convince yourself that this is one-on-one, try to make it more like tennis?

I mean a little bit. I think the whole argument of like trying to play the golf course doesn't really work for me. Like I don't know why it just never has. I just, I try to focus on just playing the best that I can play that day. And the best that I can play is five under or five over. You know, I just, I give it 100% effort every time. And whatever the score is, the score is.

There's something about, you know, stepping onto a tennis court and looking across the net, and it's just being one guy and, you know, one person I have to get through. But, you know, they're two completely different sports. So speaking of a little one-on-one, how rattling was it when Speed hold out on you in the playoff at the travelers? I mean, it wasn't necessarily rattling. It was just kind of like seriously. like I mean all the things that led up to that like he made a 20 footer on the 16th hole that he like early walked and thought that he completely missed and it went in and he was like oh my god like I can't believe that went in and then in the playoff he snipeed it off the tee into the tree and it kicked right back out into the fairway and so just kind of like the events that led up to it I was like I really felt like it was kind of my week and then it didn't really work out that way.

But that's the way golf is. I've had plenty of weeks that I didn't play my bets and had some great results. It's also tough because that's a clip that's going to live forever. They're always showing that. You see it a million times every year. That's got to be a tough thing to watch every time. It definitely was.

I'm pretty sure there was an Under Armour commercial that aired for like a whole year after that. And I must have seen it like 250 times. And I was just like, seriously. And it's, you know, it's just, the Michael Greller and the Jordan Steve chest bumped and I was like man I wish that was me but it's not me but it's so cool at the same time I was like I feel bad but I don't like it was just weird a lot of mixed emotions no wonder you don't watch golf on TV yeah yeah who's uh who's like

the best the best drinking buddy guy on tour drinking buddy yeah if you're on like you know you're on tour you're on an event who are you thinking like I got this is my guy to go get a beer with. If I wasn't at a tour, if I wasn't at a tour of him and I was hanging out, probably Gary Woodland, believe it or not. He goes pretty hard when he wants to. I like that. Yeah, we had him in here right after he won the U.S. Open, and he was very different because

he comes off so kind of mild mannered and pretty quiet on the course and all that. He was like kind of a bro. He dapped us up. He came in, tapped all this up. I was like, all right, we're in for something that I wasn't expecting. Yeah, he's got that, like, he's got that really good. he's got that really good sponsor attitude where he really walks the line right that's probably tricky to do yeah how conscious are you of that kind of stuff with like how how

how responsible you know you are marketing you know yourself and all that how conscious are you of that kind of stuff i mean it's definitely important but i think you know who i am on the golf course is who i am off the golf course and you know i'm not like acting one way you know behind the cameras than I am kind of when I'm on them. You know, so I'm just kind of who I am. And I feel like, you know, that's why, you know, a lot of, you know, companies and sponsors that I dealt with like to be a part of my brand because, you know, I feel like I'm real.

Got to be real. I think, real. I think, too, now I feel like it's like shifting the other day or the other way. We're real is people now with all different social media on that stuff. Real is starting to become significantly more marketable than corner of like all these different people who are propped up and it's clearly fake and all that because you have so many more opportunities to just kind of be real and direct with people now yeah i mean it's just tough like when you look on the social media that some people post and it's just like it's just feels like

it's so scripted you know what i mean like post this at this time this video like comment this and it's just like it's just not who you are you know oh yeah you see that on tour all the time where they all post the copy-pasted message in the exact same time Yeah. It's a tough, it's a tough look. What's the worst balance you've ever gotten on tour? What's the worst what? Worst balance.

Just like a horrible break, horrible bounce. Worst balance, man. I feel like I've got a lot of them, that's for sure. But I've got a lot of good ones. I don't know. I'd have to think about that one for a minute. I remember, I think it was like the first hole of the PGA championship at Bethpage this year. I think I remember you hit the flag and it bounced off the ground.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Dude, that was terrible. The worst part was, like, literally, if it goes, like, one inch left or one inch right, it's, like, if it's a tap in birdie, and it, like, flies at the bottom of the cup, and I have, like, 60 feet, and it's, like, the first hole of day. So you're kind of, like, you got, you know, the excitement of getting the round going, and it's just, like, boom, that happens in the first hole.

But that definitely was up there for sure. You still get, like, first tee jitters at all ever? I wouldn't call them, like, jitters, but I'm just usually, like, really, excited to get going and it's just that kind of gets your adrenaline going and your heart pumping but um you know i played in like 150 pj tour events at this point so i wouldn't call them like jitters i would just call it excitement what's your uh what's your like warm up routine for a round look like i'm always curious because we you know as average coffers i mean if we make it to the course beforehand with enough time to like hit the range that's a way it's a fucking miracle so i'm

curious what, someone who actually does it for a living and, you know, takes it very seriously, has a routine. What time do you get there? Do you go through like the exact same kind of order through the bag the whole time? What's the warm-up look like? I do, yeah, morning routine and an afternoon routine. And if I tee off in the afternoon, then I usually get there a couple hours earlier and hit some pots and maybe hit a few chips. But, yeah, dude, it's for like an 8 o'clock tea time, I'm up at like 4.45. in the morning and, you know, at the golf course by like 545. So there's a lot more that goes into it than just showing up to the first T,

but I've had the same routine before my rounds for probably 10 years now. And kind of started with my dad, like he kind of got me into those routines. And I always wake up at least three hours before tea time and just kind of things that I've done and kind of built upon since I've been like a young kid. It sounds like you guys take it way more seriously than we do. That's pretty much what I'm getting from that. Yeah, that's what I... When I'm at home, I might hit like 10 or 50 balls and just go right to the teeth.

Are you in like a tour around, you know, warm up phase? Are you going through like the same kind of like shots every single time? Or is it depend like, oh shit, I'm kind of hitting it a little bit this way today. I'm hitting a little bit of a cut today. So you're kind of like tweaking a little bit or is it pretty much like the same shots every time? Like I just... If I'm hitting like a 10-yard cut, then I just go to the course and hit a 10-yard cut. And if I'm hitting like a 10-yard draw, I just go to the course and hit a 10-yard draw.

I'm not to, like, change it that much. But some of my best rounds have come from like my worst warm-ups. Isn't that amazing? I feel the same way. You hear that about pitchers all the time. They'll have a bad bullpen session. They'll go out and throw no-hitter. I don't know why that is.

Probably because the expectations are a lot lower when you just hit 40 of the worst golf shots at your life before you tee off. Yeah, I think it was J-T. like a couple weeks ago in the playoffs when he shot like what he shoot like 11 under or something like that 60 and then he was like I had the worst warm-up of my entire career. I think he did say that, yeah. So maybe that's the goal. You just got to go out and have as bad of a warm-up as possible. Yeah, don't warm up at all.

See, now we're back to how we play with. That doesn't work either. That doesn't work out. So, all right, so we're feeling healthy. You know, we've got the whole kind of like season upcoming. What are the goals for this year? What are the expectations? I mean, the goals are pretty high. I mean, I've always set really high goals.

I mean, top 50 in the world is one of my goals. You know, I was there for four or five years in a row and fell off last year. So that's been a big goal of mine. And then obviously with the Ryder Cup coming up, that's a big goal of mine. You know, I really enjoy the President's Cup and I really want to get back to that team format again. And then have a chance to win, you know, and hopefully close the deal. get another win under my belt. All right, man.

Well, let's get some wins. I think it'd be good for everybody, including us. Whenever we have people on the show and then they go and win, then we get to brag about that. So let's go get a win. That'd be massive. Let's do it. Let's do it.

All right, Daniel, look, we really appreciate it. We're glad you're healthy and all that again. Glad you're out there grinding, and we'll be rooting for you out there this year. All right. Thanks for having you guys. All right, man, thanks a lot. Appreciate it. Big thanks to Daniel Berger.

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