Fore Play - Danielle Kang and The Great Sweet ’N Sour Sauce Investigation

Episode Date: July 22, 2021

Danielle Kang (01:16:16) joins us live from… Wayne Gretzky’s hockey school? And there’s a Great One Sighting on the podcast? What an interview. The 6th ranked player in the world goes in-depth on how much being an Olympian means to her, her belief she can be the best, what it takes to get there, choosing day-of which clubs to put in the bag, and much more. Before Danielle: Trent argues to the court that he did in fact know what sweet ’n sour sauce was; we ponder an apology to Gaylord, Michigan; Phil Mickelson is seriously in our mix on Twitter; and we each pick something to forever eliminate from golf in the new Fore Play Cuts segment.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, presented by Bar Stool Sports. We are joined today. It's myself. I'm Riggs. We have Mr. Trent Ryan from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Hello, Trent.

Hello, you said that intro in a local radio guy voice. Bar Stool Sports. I was kind of thinking earlier about, like, the intro and how I do it. And I think when you think about it, it kind of messes you up. But we're also joined by Frankie Borelli from the Long Island part of New York. Hello, Frankie. Coming out to live on WBAB 103, it's Frankie Borelli. Right.

Yes. Our friend Lurch is slinging VR or something somewhere, so he will not be joining on this very show. But who will be is Danielle Kang. She's the sixth best player currently in the Rolex world ranking. She's a major winner. She's the people's women's golfer. And boys, this one interesting. It actually starts live from Wayne Gretzky's hockey school in Cordillane.

And I don't think he in an audio version appears in this podcast. In the YouTube version, Wayne Gretzky is just on the podcast multiple times. He's like tying his skates and then he's passing the puck back and forth with River, who was like DJ and Paulina's four-year-old son. It was a hell of a start. And Danielle Kang is fucking awesome. So her interview, she talks about the Olympics. how she was literally crying about the rankings because, you know, the top like four ranked

American female players would make the Olympic team and how she literally like cried over making the team. She is the most gung-ho Olympian from the golf standpoint that we've heard by far. So the interview was awesome. Yeah, if you listen to this podcast, you know who Daniel Kang is. I think she might be, she might have the most appearances on this podcast for a guest. She's probably four or five, six, seven times on this show. And she's great.

Yeah, people are going to like that interview. She's good every single time. She brings the heat, especially like getting Wayno on the fucking YouTube version of this podcast. That's going to be a must watch. I mean, if everyone that's listening to this podcast doesn't immediately go over to the YouTube and just watch that part, that's crazy to me. Like that video should just get thousands upon thousands of views just to see him. It starts, and I'm like, where are you? She's wearing a crew neck that just says 99 on the chest.

And I'm like, where are you? And she's like, oh, I'm on vacation. I'm with the, you know, with the Gretzky family and we're at hockey school today. I'm getting ready to go to hockey school. I was like, well, what does that mean? And she's like, oh, I'll just show you. So she just gets out of the car where she was doing the interview and walks around the Wayne Gretzky hockey school, it gives me a tour.

And during that tour, she's like, oh, there's Wayne doing an interview. There's Wayne skating. There's Wayne just stick handling and passing the puck with DJ's son. So it was, the whole thing was very, uh, with like his grandson. So he's passing that. The whole thing was very, very cool. And then you get, you know, 25 minutes or something. So with myself and Danielle Kang, where she's just talking extremely raw and real about golf,

about what she needs to, like, perform at her best. She's on vacation right now. But she was, like I told her, I was like, introduced her kind of as a sixth ranked player in the world. And she was like, I fell on the rankings again. Fuck. Like she was legit pissed about it. So she's just the best. Owen's mixer is also the best.

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that's what they do they literally present us to the world it's like a new age it's like a new world type of presenting right it's like the 21st century type of presenting but like back in the day that would mean that like owen's mixers would stand in front of like some red velvet you know drapery and they would say we now present foreplay and like the current would open up and it would just be us for standing there being like we're going to talk about golf and riggs his asshole and then that would almost be unacceptable back then and now it's now it's outrageous so yeah uh shout out to all the guys over and and girls over at owens mixers they are the people that make this happen there's no doubt about it absolutely go to owensmixtures.com

you can do the store locator situation and find out where locally you can go just pop it and pick up Owens and get it going. I'm going to start with a few shoutouts of my own. Carson, my guy Carson, who I met here in St. Louis, hooked us up with Cardinals tickets last night to Cardinals Cubs. A handful of people from the Barstool Classic staff went. I was planning on going and then I got absolutely swamped with a bunch of work stuff that I had to get done because I got a little buddy's trip coming up so I couldn't go

last night. But the whole classic staff had a great time, went to an awesome game. So big thanks to Carson. And then Barstow Classic, couple shoutouts, driver swing guy who does, who hits the golf ball like a pitcher, which is one of the craziest things I've ever seen. He then, him and his teammate qualified and were low medalist yesterday at the Barstlele Classic. One of the more surprising things I think I've ever seen. So he always swings like that. With a driver for two years, he always swings like that.

Was he a factor in them playing well? Was his partner a stick? It was a ham and egg situation. They both played great. Wow. I mean, I've had conversations amongst myself and on the show about lifting my left foot and how that's been a no-no in my Breaking 100 series. Like I just made a mistake. John Tillery never told me to lift my foot.

And I just started doing it. And when I keep my foot down, I do play better. This guy's going the opposite way. And he looks like a baseball player out there. He lifts it up completely and just swings. The fact that it goes straight is a miracle. far in a way, one of the more unorthodox swings I've ever seen. Yeah, it reminded me of Hosung Choi.

Remember him? Yep. Reminded me. Oh, yeah. But he did it, I feel like afterwards. Like, I feel like his antics were, he looked like Zorro after the swing where he was all over the place. I don't remember that he did a crazy lift, like back swing, no? Certainly never the foot leaving the ground.

That seems like a no-no when you're playing golf. Like, it can come up a little. guys do that, but to have it fully go up and then to swing, it seems like a recipe for disaster. Yeah, so his backstory said was a couple of years ago he's playing. He missed every fairway on the front nine, drove it like shit, played terrible. And he decided on the back, he's just going to swing as hard as he could. And he's like, my body naturally, when I swung as hard as I could, I just lifted my left leg like that. And I all of a sudden drove it and played really well. So I've been doing it for two years straight. Do you get the vibe that there's a bit of showmanship

to it? Yes, but not in a negative way. Right. I agree with that. I'm all for showmanship. He said it's like a conversation starter. So if you can find a way to swing a golf club in a way where you play pretty solid golf and you're kind of giving the people a show,

I support that. I got a lot of tweets that that guy looked like me. And I think we always get caught into this little world where any just plain-faced white guy that has a little bit of too much cheek fat and has absolutely no chance of ever growing a beard or a mustache to the extent of it being respectable amongst other men, then they just think that I am that person. So got a ton of action on my Twitter saying that leg lift driver guy is just Frankie 2.0 and he hits

a better golf ball and he does it unorthodox way. So good day on Twitter for me with that guy just showing up to the classic. Congratulations to those guys. That's really impressive. Very impressive. We'll see them in Pinehurst. And then I have to also shout out Zach who won the putting contest, who, was the most electric putting contestant in the history of doing the Barsoe Classic.

We've probably done 40 plus 45 events maybe at this point over three years. And the truly putting contest is great. But it's kind of the anchor of the happy hour afterwards. It gives everybody a reason to stand around the putting green for an hour after they finish. Have a truly, have a cigar, have a from maconudo, maybe a bite to eat, enjoy yourself. And then there's a little bit of action. There's a nice putting contest. Somebody wins 500 bucks plus a tailor-made spider-pull.

putter, it's very fun. And sometimes it's a letdown where it's like people are just missing putts and it drags a little bit. Usually delivers a little bit of excitement. One person makes it and everybody goes nuts and then it's kind of over. Well, this guy, Zach, he is like a 20-foot downhill slider that is tough to make. I mean, I think 12 people made it out of 110 throughout the day. And then we get to the punting contest.

Of those 12, he steps up middle, middle guy-ish, sixth maybe in the lineup. Cans it. He was the first one to make it. and he went nuts. He kind of like called it beforehand, and then he does the early, he did the putter drop early on as it's going in, like maybe seven feet out.

He does the putter drop, bang, goes in the hole. I'm like, oh my guys, well, then two more guys make it. So then they go reverse order out of three people, Survivor, first two guys miss. So now Zach steps up, the big fella,

who's all jolly having the most fun time of anybody at the tournament, steps up. He's gone two for two from 20 feet, steps up again like seven feet out he just starts walking backwards towards the crowd putter drop picks me up off the ground ball goes in everybody goes nuts it was the highlight of the putty contest in 40 plus events that guy's a showman he's a true showman he yeah he's like almost to the point where he's a professional wrestler out there

on the putty green he was cutting promos he was walking it in it was just impressive as soon as it was over like as soon as the paul ball went into the hole. He hugged me and turned to the camera. I was like, I'm getting married in September. Shout out to Megan. I was like, where are we right now? So he was a hero and just delivered in every way you could possibly deliver.

So shout out to him. And then last one before we get down at business here is a guy by the name of James Miller reached out and actually demanded an apology from Fortplay on behalf. of Gaylord Michigan. Oh, here we go. Oh, my God. I got so many DMs about this. So I'll read his message, and you're right.

This was a multiple folks submitted this kind of sentiment, so that's what made me think it was worthy to be brought up on the show. We can obviously discuss it. James writes, Hey, Riggs, I just want to let you know when you were dissing Gayward Michigan on your podcast, that Gaylord is known as the Gulf Mecca of Michigan. and Treetops, one of its many golf resorts, used to host a part three shootout, which was on ESPN, and players like Phil Mickelson and Lee Trevino would come play in it.

I think you missed a bunch of real gyms to play, and I would like an apology for the prideful golfing community of Gaylord. Good day, sir. He said good day, sir? Good day, sir. We have to decide between the three of us right now if we are going to apologize to the city of Gaylord. What do you guys think? Well, you know, you hear great stories about Gaylord in that way. And then I get all these DMs about how the day we were there, this woman got charged for like assaulting her neighbor and the picture of her is all time. It's all over the news. I mean, it's like Gaylord woman. When she allegedly threw a drink at one of the attendees and then when the man there asked her to leave, she choked him out. Like it's just, it's a chaos there. So yeah, they probably have good golf there. But I think we saw. We gave Gaylord the eyeball test.

And listen, for me, like, I'm in, you know, a metropolitan area. I'm in the northeast. I'm on Long Island. It's crazy, busy over here. I'm in New York City every day for work. When I go to a place like Gaylord, I'm going to drop it down a couple points. And then when we don't want to be there because of where we had to go to the next day, I'm going to drop it down even more points.

So our situation made Gaylord the worst place on Earth. Right. It all depends on what you're dealing with. 100%. Gaylord was a victim of our circumstance because it just was. wasn't where we wanted to go or where we wanted to stay. It just happened to be the place that was an hour and a half away. And it was potentially going to be the staying place after we stayed at the warbler for one night.

And then we were going to have to fucking go back to Gaylor and stay in the hotel. It just wasn't where we wanted to be based out of. And we hated it because of that. Like you said, Frankie, I'm sure there's good golf. I'm sure it's a beautiful town. I'm sure there's good restaurants somewhere. but it just happened to be the area where we didn't want to stay because we were having such a good time at four students. It's a good example of this is when we were out for like DP 40 or DP 41 for Dave's birthday in Vegas.

We used to go there all the time. It was usually right after the college basketball tournament or for the college basketball tournament. We were there with Pat McAfee the first year. And I remember we were all sitting there after like four nights there or three nights. And in Vegas, especially with that crew, and the amount of money that was being spent on, like, the top places and the top bars and getting home at 6 o'clock in the morning, I remember Pat McAfee got on the phone with someone. It was like an airport or, like, one of the private airports. And he said to the person, how much money is it going to cost me to get me out of the worst place on Earth right now, right? Now, you're sitting inside Las Vegas.

If he makes that phone call day one, you're like, well, that's just wrong. But, like, day three, Vegas became a victim of the circumstance in which you couldn't stay there for. one more minute because it was honestly the worst place on the planet. But like in another, in another day, another area, another circumstance, another situation, Vegas is fine. It's fun. It's great. Everyone loves it. So maybe the same for Gaylord. It just caught us on the wrong day at the wrong time. We were in that at the end of the trip type like, I don't want to be here anymore type Gaylord place. So no, I will not apologize for what we said about Gaylord. Yeah, I'm not going to apologize. I agree. I think Gaylord became.

the placeholder and the representative of bad, like the worst logistical outcome for us in that moment. And therefore, we used it as a rallying, negative, giant, shitty place that we just didn't want to be anywhere near. So did it get caught in the crossfires at a time when we didn't want to be anywhere near there? Yes. Is there great golf there that perhaps we could explore one day, tree tops? I heard it's lovely. Yes, but no, I'm not going to apologize either. I have no interest in apologize.

I am also not going to apologize, but I do think we can use it as an opportunity to go back to Michigan at some point, because I think we all had a great time in Michigan, and I would really, really love to go back and explore some of the golf courses in Gaylord. But I echo the voices of my co-host here when I say that I will not apologize to Gaylord. Good job. Yeah. Great job, Trent. Very well done. Okay. We got a good amount of talking points to get to here. I'm going to start with Trent Ryan doesn't know what sweet and sour sauce is.

That's wrong. That's surprising development on the internet witness. I've never seen it. I mean to see this here. What do you think about it? It's really good. It's delicious. Are you fucking kidding?

So it's sweet and it's sour. good. Yeah, I just haven't seen it. I think this is a bit. It's not a bit. I always get barbecue sauce in my chicken nuggets. I always get mustard. What's this ketchup thing? I can't believe this. I've just never had it. I've never had it. Yeah. It's inside every, every, every fancy food in the world. When burglars. I get barbecue sauce with my chicken nuggets. That's it. That's it. That's the end of the story. When they ask what I'm going to be written, my friend. I'm glad we're talking about this so I can clarify what happened at the Chicago O'Hare airport

between me and Frankie Borrelli and sweet and sour sauce. Here's what happened. How about you say what you think happened and I'll say what happened afterwards? No, no, no. I know what happened. Okay. So we had a connecting flight. We flew from Traverse City to Chicago, then Chicago to New York City or New York.

airport or wherever we were going. Nightmare flight. From Chicago to New York, but that's another story for another day. That's another story. We can talk about that at some other time. So I walk from, I just walk to the gate. I don't get any food. I'm just ready to get home. We got a little bit of a layover in Chicago, but I walk right to the gate. Frankie Borrelli stops at McDonald's and gets chicken nuggets and fries. He walks to our gate, but he stops at a table that is a little bit before the gate that I'm standing at. And while I'm walking over to his table to talk to him and potentially steal a chicken nugget and a

fry, he takes the top off of the sweet and sour sauce packets. So he pulls those off. And when I walk over there, it is just two nondescript packages of sweet and sour. I walk over there. I say hello. We talk about the flight. I grab a chicken nugget. I do not dip the chicken nugget into the nondescript sauce that is on the table. And I look down and I say, oh, now what's that? And Frankie Borelli and Frankie Borelli forum goes, well, that's sweet and sours. That's clearly sweet and sour sauce. What do you not know what sweet and sour sauce is?

And then that becomes the narrative of what is happening. People start taking a video. Frankie tweets about it before I even know what's going on. But in reality, I just didn't, I couldn't visually see what. it was. It was just a sauce on the table. Frankie's acting like I took a big scoop, tasted it, and was like, what is this exotic condiment that you have on the table? And then, and then Avery starts to take a video of it, which is fine. And I'm sort of sarcastically, I say, oh, it's sweet and it's sour. That's kind of nice. And instead, people thought that I didn't know that it was sweet and sour sauce.

When I was kidding about that, and the reality of the situation is that, nope, put your hand out. I'm still going. The reality was that I just didn't visually see it and say, oh, that's sweet and sour sauce. But I know what sweet and sour sauce is. I'm a 32-year-old human being who has had more crab rangoons than everybody on this podcast combined, and I always dip them in sweet and sour sauce. I know what sweet and sour sauce is. You may think you know what sweet and sour sauce is because you've had crab rangoon.

The reason why I knew you were going to say all of that, and it's fine. I'm glad you got your piece on 4Play podcast. The reason why you're wrong is because prior to the video being put out, you can almost hear me go, that's like saying, what is this ketchup? And I said that twice because I knew the video wasn't playing the first time. You genuinely did not know what this sweet and sour sauce was because he goes, what is that? And I said, sweet and sour sauce. And you go, oh, what's, you go, what's that?

And I said, no, that's true. And I said, but try it. I go, I'm like, what the fuck? you talking about. And then you said, well, I always get barbecue sauce. And then you look at the packet. And I said, that's like saying you always get mustard and being like, what's this ketchup thing? And that became the storyline. Like, you legitimately were, you were befuddled that I was eating something that you had never seen before. You had never laid your eyes on that green sweet and sour sauce packet from McDonald's. And I even said, bro, they have this everywhere.

They have it at Burger King. They have it at Wendy's. They have it at Wendy's. They have I'm having at McDonald's, and you're like, your response to that was not, I know what sweet and sour sauce is, I just didn't know what you're eating. Your response was, I know, I always get barbecue. I don't know what this is. You were like, I don't know what this is in front of me. You brought up a point in my favor that I appreciate that. I always get barbecue sauce when I go to McDonald's.

I never get sweet and sour. And that is why when the sweet and sour sauce that had the top ripped off and it was just sauce sitting there, that's why I didn't recognize it because I always had. always just get barbecue sauce. But it's not, you're, you're making it seem like I tasted it and then was like, no, you didn't. No, you were just, you almost like,

your brain almost exploded when I said the word sweet and sour sauce. You're like, what is, you're like, oh, what's that? And then you actually looked at the package. I mean, I mean, every, people were there. Brendan was there. He's not on the fucking podcast. I mean, people were there to witness this. Avery was there to witness your brain,

process this brand new sauce. And I understand that the word sweet and sour is probably something that you've eaten and known before. But the idea that you've never known that sweet and sour could be an option at McDonald's fast food restaurant. And the idea that you never understood that that was something that was ordered

with chicken nuggets and French fries at fast food restaurants, being Trent Ryan from Iowa, that is a stunning... What is that? Well, you... Like, you... There's... definitely a billion McDonald's in Iowa.

And they ask you, off the rip, would you like sweet and sour sauce with that? That's not what they say. That's like, now you're taking liberties. They ask, what do you want as a dipping sauce? I don't say, hey, Trent Ryan, do you want sweet and sour with your chicken nuggets? No, I may be wrong on that, but I got a lot of tweets saying, like, they think that that's now the new norm that McDonald's will say, would you like any sweet and sour with that? Because it is the number one sauce.

It's almost like Chick-flay-Bing, like you want Chick-Flay sauce? Like you know that you want that sauce with it. If I could change one thing about that whole situation, I would have, I would not sarcastically say, oh, it's sweet and it's sour. That's good. Because then it gives people the impression that I am,

oh, it's my first time eating sweet and sour sauce. When I was just kidding, because I've had it so much and you were so adamant that I didn't know what it was. You didn't know what it was. I wanted to, I wanted to mock you and sarcasmuched.

But Rakes, I didn't know what it was. What's your, He didn't know what that sauce was. That's almost just as weird as never hearing sweet and sour sauce, not knowing what the green packet at McDonald's is. Not only did the people... Riggs?

In that airport, not get it. If you listen, there's like dead air after I say it. But there's also the people on the internet were like, well, this guy clearly just doesn't know what sweet and sour sauce is. And he might have been living in a cave for the last 30 years. That joke is not the thing that makes or breaks this. That part is... No, it's not.

It's you, before the video was taken, not knowing what I was... eating. That's what the weird thing was. Let me say, okay, let me, let me jump in. Let me jump. As a third, third party, Arbor, I wasn't there. Okay. I wasn't there. I consumed this story for the first time in the bits and pieces that were released publicly to the media. And what I, a couple things. Number one, that I would like to focus on or that I take into consideration after hearing all this is that I've never ever considered Trent to be a liar. Trent is an extremely honest man from modest, humble beginnings in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. He even, if he's going to embarrass himself,

will reveal the truth to the people. However, the second thing that's extremely troubling, I would say, is that in that original media that was released, you were harping on the fact that you only get barbecue sauce, which to me would mean that you are justifying not even being familiar with this other sauce because you always get barbecue sauce. So why would you focus on that if that wasn't even the crux of the issue to begin with? My focus on the barbecue sauce is that I don't know what the McDonald's sweet and sour sauce looks like from above because I'm looking at the table and he's our, Frank, he's just, he's so hungry, he's ripping off these sauce packets.

Don't start talking about how hungry I am. He's ready to get this face a little bit fatter. So he rips off these packets before I can even walk over there. So what I, the reason I brought up the barbecue sauce was because then I wouldn't have any

sort of reference point for what the McDonald's sweet and sour sauce looks like in a packet. Can we put the audio in right now? Maybe we've already done it. But let's listen to it one more time. on the podcast because I, after I make that statement that they have sweet and sour sauce and you've looked at the packet, I said they've had sweet and sour sauce that Burger King, Wendy's McDonald's, and your response to that, after already talking about for 40 seconds where you could

have said, dude, I know what it is, I just never seen this packet. Your response to that was, dude, I get barbecue sauce every time. So then like Riggs is saying to us, it's like, well, this guy has been so blind to everything around him because he just wanted to take a bath in that barbecue sauce immediately upon entering those restaurants that he didn't even know there were other options I've never seen it we see this here what do you think about it it's really good it's delicious are you fucking kidding so it's sweet and it's sour that's good yeah I just never seen it I think this is a bit it's not a bit I always get barbecue sauce in my chicken nuggets I've always get mustard what's this ketchup thing

I can't believe this I've just never had it I've never had it yeah it's inside every every that's a huge in a world I get barbecue sauce with my chicken nuggets

that's it's it's all that's the end of the story when they ask what I want has been rewritten my friend it's pretty damn evident because it's on video all right the video doesn't show the whole story Oh, I think the video actually fucks me

Because I would have loved to get that first interaction With you being like, what are you eating? And everyone kind of locking eyes being like The McDonald's sweet and sour sauce, dude? See, that's where the Frankie Barley fat comes in Where when I am looking at something that I don't know what it is, I go, what's that? Frankie's saying that like all everyone,

people even were not even with come around being like, what did you say? The flight attend had made an announcement being like, we have a problem by age 16 And also it's refutable that like, I just know what sweet and sour sauce is. Does this look like a guy who doesn't know what sweet and sour sauce is? You know who I'd love to get this take from and it's just out of the box person? Is Robbie Berger brilliantly dumb? I would love to have him break down this scenario because this seems like it's right up his alley of like someone.

Like you, it really needs to be dissected. The video needs to be dissected by somebody that is completely out of the realm. I think Riggs is true. Like, he makes a good point where you wouldn't genuinely lie about it. I think you got caught up in something that you think, like, not knowing what sweet and sour sauce is is a pretty bad rap to have, right? Like, that's something that's not acceptable. Right.

And I do wish, I do wish at some point during the video that I would have just explicitly said, I know what sweet and sour sauce is. That just never, it would have helped me in a big way. I think if we were in the court of law, if this. was like a fucking oj case and they made like a netflix series after it like 25 30 years after you would people would still think that you're fucking guilty like that like with the video evidence that we have you would still be in jail even if it got brought back to court 10 times no matter what no matter how many people they interviewed you'd still be in fucking jail it all just happened

it's what they said like we're just like making a murder like we just fucking put you in jail like you don't know what the fuck happened right like all the i was you know stealing a chicken nugget from you and then all of a sudden I was sitting on trial I didn't know I didn't know what happened there was tweets were out the videos were out I had a cheeseburger and I was dipping that shit in the sweet and sour sauce I dip everything it's I also say in that video that it's delicious that sweet and sour sauce is delicious right which also made it look like it was the first time it's ever touched your lips agree that did that hurts me too the video the video makes you look worse than your explanation is here so for me again I'm trying to close that

Delta between the two of those things and to see which one we're closer to. Because if there is one thing that I do think you would be very concerned with your reputation about, it would be ensuring that you have a clean record when it comes to known foods. And this is a big one. Just a really nice way to say that I'm a fat guy. No, I'm not. I didn't say it. I'm going to leave it. I will no longer speak on the matter. I am pleading the fifth. And I will no longer. The last thing I'll say is that I know what sweet and sour sauce is. It's a great plug for this new show we've been watching. It's a second season on Netflix. It's called I think you should leave. Trent and I have been referencing it like crazy. I feel like everyone we were traveling with thought we were idiots and psychos because we just kept saying these ridiculous lines from, is a tin, Tim Robinson.

Yep. He's a comedian. He's got the best sketch show on all platforms, not just the internet. TV, all platforms, even like live viewing, plays. This guy has the best sketch show of all time.

It's right up my alley of comedy and there's a part in there where at one point he just goes, he's arguing with someone about driving and he goes, okay, I'm done. And the guy who he's arguing with is like, what do you mean you're done? He goes, I'm done, you're yelling, I'm no longer a part of this.

It's like, it's so true. That's exactly what Trent's doing. You're just like, okay, I'm done. And he rolls up his window and it's over. And there's really nothing we can say. If you don't want to talk about this anymore, it's over. I don't. I don't.

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or so two years ago maybe where people really started getting into it with Phil on Twitter. And he's he's retweeted a bunch of stuff. He's chirped us, roasted us, been back. But, you know, whatever. Well, last night, he was just in it to win it. I mean, he just was, he was talking about everything and responding to pretty much everything that was going on. I put up a video of me trying on the Daily Night to do the baseball golf swing that that

guy was doing. And Phil out of the clouds, which by the way got a huge bump of that video, it's got a lot of views now. He just wrote Riggs hits bombs. I mean Riggs hits bombs with a couple exclamation points. I just said I want to hit bombs like the PGA champ. And then he rose to me and said maybe when you're 51, but right now isn't your time.

Then Max Homa jumped in and said, Phil, I think he need to teach him out of stretch if he wants to have a back swing when he's 51, which is a very good chirp. Big thanks to Max for jumping in, another boost to the video. Well, now I want to highlight a couple things that came from that, which are number one.

I obviously was trying to leverage this into Phil Mickelson coming on the show or participating in a four-man scramble. And his response to that was the four of you together is kind of like golf's dream team. I don't think I can hang. Yeah. Which was that took me a back as some people said. Are we golf's dream team? I was blown away by that tweet.

I don't think we are now. Phil Mickelson said that we were. I don't know how you can argue with the lefty. I mean... Right, this isn't just some regular guy on Jeff Shackleford. Right on Jeff Shackleford.com that we're the dream team. This is Phil Mickelson saying that we are the dream team. Guy just won the BJ Jammer.

He's Phil Mickelson. Yeah, he's Phil Mickelson. Do we think he was talking about the fact that the four of us as one golfer are the dream team? Which, like, right? We've talked about how some of us drive it well, some of us chip it well, so it was hit irons well so it was pop well that that is that what he was referring to that's how i took it totally well then that would imply that he knows a good amount of detail about the four-man scramble and our strengths and our weaknesses and who we really are i think phil's very informed

with a lot of things that we don't understand how right like i think he when he was leaving the pj championship and he was tweeting we were we were all speculating is that someone on his team doing it is that him doing it. I think at this point, it's very evident that Phil knows more than we first thought. And I think that he is on Twitter. He is the one that's interacting. He obviously has it. I'm sorry.

Okay. You're right. Can we get a paramedic in there? I just need to get a water. I just need to get a water. And it's just a little too far from me while I do this podcast. Are you all right? Don't you?

Didn't you just have a water cool in your room? I have a water cool. I just don't, unless I suck it from the bottom of the thing, I don't have a cup with me right now. Please do that and do it on video I can put it inside the Pass out. I'm thinking about putting it inside the drone

and drinking out of it. I think at this point there's been way too many interactions where it's just the same style of tweeting the same style of the way he speaks and it's so just Phil that this is him and I think he knows a lot about media I think he knows a lot about the golf world

Why wouldn't Phil know about it right? I mean we've made a pretty big splash in this golf world now. We've played a lot of his peers, his friends and I think it's just evident that this guy knows a lot about us. I think you're probably right. I just, when I see that kind of stuff, I have to take myself,

I have to take myself out of it and sort of be like, what? But when you actually assess it that way, that's a fair point. And then another tweet that he had was, I appreciate your dedication to the game and the awareness you have brought to it. Thank you.

Phil Nicholson tweeted at us, which again, it's just like, no, thank you, Phil. Like, you're from Nicholson. we're lost. That also felt like a no when we asked if he would play us in a four-man scramble, right? Because that was in response to like there's only one way to find out. And his response to that was, I respect you, thank you, goodbye.

Yes, I think that's correct. Yeah, he interacts with us a ton on Twitter. And then it doesn't go much further than that. But it's still basically the bottom line is that like Phil Mickelson knows things that I feel like Phil Mickelson shouldn't know about this area of media, which is us to a larger extent. Phil should want to do this, man. Like, he clearly wants to be in the mix. The guy is, like, responding to DMs that he's not even, uh, to tweets that he's not even tagged in. Like, after the Detroit stuff, he was just searching his name and like, to me, it's like, I don't understand why he wouldn't want the ultimate

like exposure. Clearly he wants people to interact with him on Twitter. He wants to do stuff on, on on YouTube. I mean, I don't know, man. It's crazy that he won't just jump in. Right. If he wants views and some more Twitter followers, like, we'd be more than happy to help him with that. I mean, he did another podcast video on YouTube and Trent trying to break 100, probably the opposite hand, has done double those views in the land. And that was five months ago. So it's like, if he's going to do stuff like that, why not just do something that's going to get more eyeballs and be a better video? I just want, I just don't, I want to go inside Phil's brain on that as to why we can't get Phil Mickelson right now when he clearly very much wants to interact with us. Think about how much fun that video would be. We'd be drinking his coffee. He'd be hitting bombs. Like, we would, we'd go all out for a Phil Mickelson, four-man scramble. People would watch the shit out of that. He'd come over and be giving us chipping lessons, right? Like, he'd see the way somebody hit a chip and come over and be like, why don't you try this there, Trent? He would be doing that. the entire time. He'd be roasting us. We'd be chirping him back, which he probably, you know,

I'm sure he would enjoy it. I would just raise his level. So yeah, it's kind of, it feels inevitable, yet it also feels like we've been playing this little back and force, little doot-to-do game with Phil for years. Do we go on the offensive and just start saying he's scared little bitch and won't play us? Like he knows we're going to beat him. That 51-year-old old man has nothing on the four-man scramble team. he, you know, he's just lost a step. He's lost a step. Phil doesn't want it. Yeah, he won the PGA,

yeah, he won the PGA, yeah, that's all great. But, like, a lot of people are saying, like, that's it. Like, it's kind of, that was his swan song. That's his last big victory. If he wants to try to prove it with us, he can. He's on the back nine of the back nine of his career, basically, is what it really and losing to the four-play, you know, mega-team would just be the, would be the final nail in his coffin.

not saying he's going to be in a coffin soon, but that's just an age joke. Lord, I hope we get to do it. I always take it too far. Like, everyone was on board with you saying nail on the coffin. Nobody thought like, like, that's where your brain goes, well, he's not going to die soon. Like, that's, like, no one thought he was going to die.

I pictured him laying in a coffin when I said that. Yeah, that's your brain just going crazy. Just sitting there with a fucking glove on his right hand. Yeah, you're in a, you're a dark person with some dark thoughts. some tough, so that's not particularly surprising. Come play us, Phil. Seriously, let's do it. Please, let's do it.

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Maybe the most excited, patriotic look at someone who's participating in Olympics as you can get. Roy McElroy is getting a lot of heat from folks for saying about the Olympics, which he is playing. He didn't play last time. He is playing this time. He said, I'm not a very patriotic guy. I'm doing it because I think it's the right thing to do. Again, he missed the last one. I have no issue with this because, you know, I was listening to him.

him or Aiman Lynch, our guy, who's, you know, Irish and Rory's Northern Irish, and he's got the history. It's extremely complicated over there. It's extremely complicated over there. I'm talking bad, bad stuff that we couldn't even pretend to understand over here. So for someone like in the U.S., it's very easy to be like, red, white and blue, baby, 1776, let's go, we're patriotic. And if you're not that way, you get roasted, chirped, whatever.

people that are from places like that, that there's an extremely complicated history, whatever. I couldn't give a fuck less if Roy McRoy says he's patriotic. I could not possibly care less, and I love Roy McElroy just being honest and genuine like he always is. Yeah, I feel like people, and I don't know this for a fact, but people critiquing Roy McElroy assume that it's the same everywhere. Like you said with the red, white, and blue,

where it's like, it's very clear, it's very linear where you're like, yeah, it's America. I like that. But like with Ireland and Northern Ireland and everything else mixed in, I don't know nearly enough about that stuff. So like I can't judge somebody for the way that they feel. So yeah, like Roy McElroy can say whatever he wants. He clearly knows way, way more about all this stuff. And if he says, like, no, I don't feel all that patriotic about it. I just want to do it because I want to participate in the Olympics and it seems like the right thing to do. That's totally fine. If you, if you're critiquing you. him and don't know the situation that he is referring to or know a lot about Ireland and Northern Ireland, then you're just being ignorant to what he's saying.

Right. It's honestly, it makes me, you know, opens my eyes to just how little we do know about other parts of the world, right? Like, we look at everything, everything under a microscope in this country, about every little thing that happens. And we're so fucking riled up about every decision and every fucking topic. Meanwhile, there's someone like Rory Macrooy that probably knows so much about what's going on in his own country That would make us probably feel so much happier to live here

Meanwhile, when I think of Ireland, I'm like, oh, it's nice, they have sheep running around and like it's cool golf and you can go You can like kiss the Blarney stone and I'm 50% Irish and like I like it and I like to put like fucking I don't know four leaf clovers on my face during like Irish day at like massapica park when we all go drinking down the block Like it's just, we have no idea what's going on over there. I have absolutely no idea if the people there are like, I don't know, is there like a pressing going on and stuff? Like I have no clue what's going on in Ireland. I literally have nothing. So maybe we should be more, you know, educated on world fucking shit as opposed to just caring about so much about our own fucking problems.

Yeah, I would tell people, just chill out. Do not pounce on Roy for something like this. The guy's always been honest, always been real, always been just beloved. by fans and media for that reason. And then if you want to jump down and down for just being honest, then you're basically, you are intimidating and pressuring players into just not being honest, into just giving like robotic bullshit answers

when people respond like this, especially from an ignorant place. So good for Rory. I couldn't possibly care less whether he chooses or wants to be or feels like he is patriotic or not. Happy's playing in the Olympics. Happy that he chose to like go over there. And happy that he was just pretty honest about it.

Plus, whatever's going on over there, they'd probably, whoever's doing whatever's going on over there. I literally know nothing. He's probably happy, it's probably happy that like the people are mad at Rory. Like, Rory should be doing this if he's trying to stand up for something. Like, if he's standing up or, and wants something to change in his home country, like this is exactly how he has to go about it. Well, and I, again, I know less than Frankie does probably,

but I think it's, we're talking centuries. Oh, okay. It's like, it goes. back a very long time. And again, I don't know, but I think it goes back a long time. And I saw one soundbiter quote that he had told somebody, I think maybe last time when he chose not to play, was that he had told someone that he basically was like, if I won a medal and they were playing the anthem from England or the anthem from Northern Ireland, whichever one he chose to play for, that he's like, I wouldn't feel comfortable.

comfortable with either one. And so he's like, so that I just was like, I'm just not going to play. So again, it's complicated. Good for Roy being honest. What's not good for Rory is that Jordan Spieth is for the first time in years

ranked higher in the world than Roy McElroy is. Roy McElroy is 15th in the world. Jordan Speeth is up to 14th in the world. What's more surprising? Rory being 15th, I would say. Like you thought he would be lower? I thought he'd be almost never outside of the top 10 in his entire life. He's Rory McElroy, dude.

Like he's Rory, he's Rory fucking MacLroy. He's like a one-name guy in the sports world who is 15th in the world. And it's not like he's not injured. He's not like he's coming back from a year of like he's had a bad knee injury and he can't go. He's just been playing golf like pretty healthily for the last eight years and hasn't won a major chimney. He did have the thing with the soccer injury, but that was a long time ago. Like, he's been fine for a long time.

I'll be honest, I'm surprised that he's 15. Wow. Really? I wouldn't say crazy lower, but we're talking about like 15th, like it's 150th. Lower meaning what? I hate this.

Lower meaning what? Lower meaning 14, 13, 12. Oh. See, I knew Trent had it wrong or different. No, I'm right. No, right. Not wrong, but I knew you had it the other way that we thought you were speaking. When I say lower, I mean worse.

Because you're physically thinking of a list and you're having lower on the list. Meanwhile, if you were speaking... We've done this before, I know. Right, because a lower number would be better. The number next to his name is a lower number. The number next to his name is, I thought would be a lower number. I'm with Trent. I think lower means 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, because you're, you're picturing a graphic and you're like,

oh my god he's so low on that list right the higher he goes the closer he is to the top you can't be lower and be on the top you have to be higher and on the top I get like so like John Rom's

ranking is higher than Roy McRoy's right now like he's the highest ranked golfer in the world right wouldn't that also make sense come on like he's the highest right

official like with that If you're the highest ranked official in the army, are you like the number thousandth official, or are you like number one fucking pull you dick out and like you're the guy? What I'm saying about Rory is that. Pull your dick out. That's fine.

Is that like... I know that he's Rory, and I know that he has four majors, and I know that he is capable of playing golf at an extremely high level. But like, do I think that he... When I think about him, do I always think of him as being like, especially right now, like a top 15, top 20 player? I don't know.

I would have thought he was closer to like the low 20s. But I, like, still being top 15 as Rory is pretty fucking impressive. Low 20. He won at Quail Hollow. He won at Quill Hollow like not that long ago. I feel like a few months. He just always feels like we're talking about Rory with huge expectations and he always fails them. 15th is like fucking Webb Simpson and

and all these people are ranked Patrick Reed and Webb Simpson and who the fuck else are ranked higher than Roy McElroy? But we're still talking about He's... Web Simpson? The guy hits fucking he's got like a seven iron hybrid that guy. But there's only 14 other players in the world

by those metrics that are better golfers than him. Dude, he's Rory McElroy. Harris. Harris, Harris, Harris English is ranked higher than Roy McElroy. Give me the name, all the names that are ranked higher than Roy McElroy. Okay,

here we go. Let me start at 16 then. No, no, no. It's going to take a while. I'll get comfortable. Wait.

I'm kidding. Number one, John Rom. Two, Dustin Johnson. Three, Colin Morikawa. Four, Justin Thomas. Five, Zander Schoffley. Six, Bryson de Shambos. 7, Brooks Kepka, 8, Patrick Cantlay, 9, Louis Oostazen, who's to who.

10, Harris, English, 11, Victor Hovlin, 12, Tyrell Hatton, 13, Patrick Reed, 14, 15, Rory. All right, there's a couple of there. There's a couple of them. Victor Hufflin. Harris, Harris, Harris, English. He's got some better at golf than Rory McElroy. Come on. Teryl Hatton, and I think we talked about this when he jumped into the top ten before,

that's a stunning name to be up there. Does he just win on the European tour every week or something? How does he rake so high? He's good. He plays a ton of events. Every time, too, he's throwing golf clubs all over the place and breaking shit. I'd be like flipping off fan. It was a surprising number to me.

Dude, Tiro Hatton, his, like, listen to his just results in his past couple tournaments. The Open championship missed cut. The U.S. Open missed cut. Palmetto finished second, which obviously was huge for him. but then it's PJ Championship 38 RBC Heritage 39 the Masters 18 World Golf Championship Dell Technology miscut

The Players Championship missed cut Arnold Palmer 21 The Workday Championship 22 RSM Classic 23 I mean Kevin Kisser's better than this guy How is he the number 12 ranked player in the world? He just had a really good stretch

I think at the end of last year I think he like He won a bunch of the European tour And he had a bunch of high finishes In the States and he just got hot at the end of like last year. Maybe the second half of last year. That's my, I think, could just be wrong.

But the positive side of this is I'm happy to see Jordan Spieth in the top 15. It feels like it's really been quite a long time. So that's good. Having Spieth and Roy right next to each other feels right. Yeah, I've been tough on Spieth during this comeback. I've always just expected more of him. And it's nice to see him move his way. way up. I do want wins out of Jordan

Speeith. I don't like to sit and just say, oh, he's there, and it's close. And, like, I just want him to start winning major championships. I am a Jordan Speath fan. He loves our stuff. And I would love for him to be a top five golfer in the world again. He's young enough to just do it again. He's currently

on his way to doing it again. And I'm happy about that. Seeing the results start to come in is great. I mean, the guy's just only going to get better, right? Like, you would hope that he doesn't regress and go back to the Jordan Speath of the last three, four years, you'd hope that this is the new Jordan speed. He is super neurotic, but it does feel like whatever he had to get over those last three years

where he was just sort of out in the pasture, like not doing anything. It feels like he's over that now, and now he's just locked in. He plays well every week, it seems like. Yeah. Who do you think is higher ranked player in the world? Justin Rose or Kevin Kisner? It's so hard. Yeah, I'm going to say Kisner.

because we just see his name like crazy. Justin Rose is barely two spots ahead of Kevin Kisner. Okay. Okay. There's some weird ones, man. I mean, I guess that one doesn't necessarily surprise me, but again, I feel like Rose,

everybody talks about him like he fell off planet Earth, and here he is two spots ahead of our guy, Kevin Kisner. Do you think, do you think Victor Perez or Sergio, Garcia is ranked higher. Sergio. I'd say Sergio. Victor Perez.

Victor Perez is ranked 45th. Sergio is 52nd in the world. I don't understand these rankings. And I mean, we've already talked about this last show. Like, John Rom is the best golfer in the world. Yeah, and he got bumped last week, even though he finished like seventh in the tournament that he played in. I think he reclaimed it this week, right?

He is reclaimed this week. but like regardless of what even if he's fifth in that number whatever he is the best golfer in the world even when he wasn't won he was the best golfer in the world the guy's been the best golfer in the world for like the last year he does not stop competing and and almost winning every single fucking major he plays in um so i don't know i understand that like it's something that we've all just come to agree on that the world golf rankings is our system that we just like i asked morcawa that when i interviewed him like is this something that you even care about he goes it's everything I care about.

Being number one is the thing I care about. That's what I want to do. I want to be the best. But I just don't know that it really shows who is the best at that time. It sucks. I mean, I got Tiro Hatton's missed cuts. I read off five missed cuts in his last 10 tournaments.

The guy's fucking 12th in the world. Come on. This guy's playing better golf than him. It's almost like the Barstville sports book betting odds would be better rankings than the official world golf rankings. Right. Yes. From favorite to non-finding. to the last guy on the list, that is the world rankings.

Yes, I agree. That is what it should be. And it should fluctuate as so. It should actually fluctuate from day to day. It should fluctuate as so. That was one of the better sentences I've ever heard you say, actually. Thank you guys. As so.

It's like you turn into Shakespeare for a second. Is that even like grammatically correct? Yeah. I think so. Who cares? It sounded for now. It sounded like you were a poet. should fluctuate as so.

Like you were finishing a defense or prosecution. Francois Jable Raleigh. Fluctuate as so. Rajaieborelli. All right. We've got a quick segment to get to. If you recall a week or so ago, we did some segment pitches. We're doing a segment right now, dude.

And then we had a bunch of major championship stuff came up. So we didn't get to the segments over the last week. but I'm going to do a segment. This is four play cuts. And if you recall, we will keep a running list of things that each one of us just eliminate from the world and the game of golf. It can be anything golf related. We are just using our personal bias opinions, experiences. We are choosing each of us one thing and we are just eliminating it from golf.

I'm going to begin. I'm going to go first. What I'm eliminating from golf forever is out of bounds. O.B. It's just gone. I am of the belief that anywhere on planet Earth should be considered inbound. So white stakes out. You put a T-box in the ground.

You put a pin in the green. And if you can get through it, you can hit it literally anywhere and you're never out of bounds. Some people might say, well, it's private property over it. you want to go knock on the front door of that house and say, hey, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson, my ball's in your fucking pool in the backyard. I need to play that thing. That's on you. But OB, that doesn't exist.

It literally doesn't exist. And I saw our guy, J.T. Poston and his cat, Aaron Fleeter, who's awesome. His ball was a millimeter out of bounds. And he just, like, couldn't play it, which I thought that kind of triggered some of this a little bit. And that's stupid. Now, you go play a golf course where somebody's ball is, like, in the road. because they sliced one so far right. They go into that road.

They want to play Frogger like George Costanza and try to hit that ball. By all means, go be it. Out of bounds is out. It's eliminated forever. Everywhere in the world is considered in bounds. I like that because it's a game of the earth. It's we just play.

Play it wherever. Whether it's on the fairway or if it's on Main Street, go play that ball. Get it in the hole. Agreed. All right. I mean, mine's pretty easy. I feel like Frankie's kind of scrambling.

over there. Were you scrambling? I'm not scrambling. You can go. I don't know. Yeah, I would like some time. Clearly you're not scrambling. I'll go. I'll go. I have so many things that I hate about. I have so many things that I hate about golf. It's hard to pick like the number one thing I want to pick right now. This is the first thing to take out. You're ready to order your entree? Yeah, yeah, but train, you go first. Yeah. All right. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. The thing that I am eliminating from the game of golf, and this is pretty easy for me, is bunkers. Coming fresh off the bunker incident, that everybody saw. And then, on the first hole at Pine Hollow,

I bladed a wedge into the bunker, and I made it 10. The fact that bunkers exist in the game of golf is criminal. It's all grass. It's grass. It's grass. And then all of a sudden, they throw in sand for reasons that are unknown to me. I'm sure in the history of the game, there is a logical reason. But now I no longer see the logic in having bunkers in the game of golf.

and yeah I'm a little biased because whenever I get stuck in one of those fuckers I can't seem to get out and I can't break 100 because I'm stuck in this stupid bunker and I make a 10 and my round is pretty much over and I want to just scream because I can't get out of these bunkers when realistically we could just get rid of them and the game wouldn't change that much like if you want the game to grow and you want more people to get involved you got to take bunkers out because it's just such a change of pace that it's going to frustrate people to the point where they just want to quit. And maybe you have it during tour events or whatever.

You guys can figure that out. But for guys like me and for people who listen to this show, if we just got rid of bunkers, we would have way, way more fun. Our scores would be lower and it would just be a far more enjoyable experience. It is sort of crazy. I mean, imagine if a game of ice hockey, there were just pits of sand in the middle of the eye.

Like that, it doesn't make any sense. Like there's no, in no world, should there just be pits of sand on a grass surface that you're playing? I will say, if you take away bunkers around the greens, I'm in trouble. I root for bunkers because-you do. I do because I can't hit tight-lie wedges. I, I mean, I said to you recently, Trent, I walked over to the cart and I said,

if I had a, if I had a wedge in my hand and they did some sort of brain, test in the hospital and they made me swing a couple shots that take a couple swings and hit a couple shots. I think the doctor would walk out with a very slow walk out to my mother and father out in the waiting area with like his head down looking at a clipboard being like unfortunately your son has massive brain damage. Like we don't know how we're going to assess this going further. We're going to have to keep them overnight like do more tests. Like I really think something happens to me mentally. And when I'm in a bunker, I'm able to swing freely and do the things that I probably should do off tight lies and off like, you know, maybe it's not in the perfectly teed up rough.

I just come through the ball, man, and it helps me spin the ball and it helps me at least stay in the hole. I root for it. I say, get in the bunker. You do. I scream. I scream for the ball to get into the bunker. Yeah, I've heard you say that. You're just like, get in the bunker. And I just think to myself, man, we got different games where our games are just so different. I get stuck in there and it's been a problem you know for years now it's it's really coming to focus because we're doing this breaking 100 and when i get stuck in a bunker it's like all right here comes a potential double digit but it's it's always been that way and i just i get endless tips about it like picture it's sitting on top of a dollar bill or or just swing as hard as you can swing behind it

and i would just all of those tips would disappear if we just got rid of bunkers and that's really what i'm going for if trent day picked up all those dollars would be a very rich man All those dollar bills underneath those bunker shots. I get that dollar bill tip three times a day in my DMs. People being like, hey, I love the Breaking 100 series. It's great, but boy, watching you try to get out of a bunker is painful. All you got to do is picture a dollar bill under there, and I'm just like delete. I can't.

What is that even mean? You're like, bro, I'm picturing a bucket under there the way I'm hitting it. As if that's something relatable, like you hit off dollar bills all the time. Like, I don't even understand what that reference is. Like, hit off the dollar bill. Like, that's nothing I can have my brain understand. That's not helping me in any way. I don't know what that means.

I've never hit dollar bills. Get rid of bunkers. Get rid of bunkers. I'll take it all the way to the Supreme Court if I have to. I guess one of my top ones that I'd probably eliminate from the game of golf on all levels of the game would be having to hit a shot out of a divot in the fairway. The fact that we as a society force golfers of all levels of play to be able to have to hit a ball that you've striped right down the middle, you've done the thing you're supposed to do. Do you know how hard it is to hit a golf ball straight?

It's one of the hardest things in the fucking world. And imagine walking up to that ball and being in a hole in the middle of the fairway. You finally did the correct thing. And just because someone maybe didn't like replace their divot or maybe it's just a brand new one that just has a little bit of the seed grass in there. And you have to now hit out of a hazard. It's almost worse than a hazard. Hitting out of a divot is worse than being in a hazard. It's worse than being in a bunker.

It's a thing that you can't understand. understand how the ball is going to come out. Lurch, during our travel series, his ball was halfway in the ground when he hit the ball right down the middle 310 yards. He had to like learn how to hit down and like the ball barely flew out of it. Like I'm like, dude, you just hit the green basically from the T-box. And this is like a ridiculously bad break. So I think you take it out, you roll it over. I'm a big fan of just rolling over in the fairway in general. If you're in a bad spot on the fairway, everything should be like a lift, clean place type of deal in the fairway. Fairway should be a safe haven.

It's, it's, you've done it. You've done the deed. Now you should be rewarded for it. So that's my, yeah, I agree with you. I think, you know, I don't know the best way to, I don't know the best way to solve it. I really don't. It just gets a little bit tricky, but, but yeah, hitting out of divets seems legitimately criminal. Because like you said, you have done the thing that you were, you were asked to do.

It is very difficult to drive a ball into a fairway. And once you are in there, that should be considered you get the best lie that you can get, not a horrific lie. Like it would be one thing if the result of being in a divot was like, it's not perfect, but we're good.

Like the result of being in a divot is you have a like the worst lie on the golf course. It's the worst lie you could have. That's just not fair. It's just unfair. And yeah, I mean, you can have tournaments decided by that just by pure, blind, ridiculous luck.

And I know some people will answer to that. Well, like, that's the rub of the green and you got to not really, do you're hitting the ball from 300 yards into a strip of grass and you just get a horrific break where yours went into a tiny little piece of that grass horrific grass that's been ripped up and like wasn't replaced or hasn't grown back in like just move it a millimeter to the right or four inches to the right you're in the same spot you have the same stance you have the same everything you did the thing you were rewarded because you have a good lie which is what should happen

when you hit it into the fairway so yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna get behind that one 100%. I don't know that I can fully get behind trends just because I think bunkers are artistically beautiful. They are beautiful. They're nice to look at, man. When you're something on a T-box, they're nice to look at it. It's just not from these eyes, baby. You're looking at these from these eyes? Crying.

That's a death trap. That's a hell of honor. I think to your point, when we talk about, Riggs has always made this point when we talk about Patrick Reed. And like if the ball moves a little bit. or something and like the fact that we just put down these ball markers on the greens and then like clean the ball and then place them back down like they always move an inch here an inch there whatever the fact that we can't just move an inch here and inch there in the fair way is insane to me so yeah

I'm all aboard that train I think the ball moves in spots in which we just don't realize that the ball moves we should be able to be rewarded for good swings amateur golfers should be able to lift clean in place at all times especially at public golf courses you're in the bunker, you're in someone's fucking footprint, lift clean and place it. You have a crazy rock. If you lift the rock away and the ball moves a little bit, you're not fucking playing for a US Open out here. Let's just move the game along. Let's not break our wedges. Let's not break our clubs. Chip our really expensive golf clubs that we save all this money up to go buy them. Golf should be a little bit more safer in that aspect. And when you're finally doing the thing,

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I went through a stretch where I really was obsessed with bubble hockey to the point. If I looked back in my emails, I was messaging. with this guy. I think it was like helix or something, tables. And I got a bubble hockey game because me and my dad just wanted to play it. I was right before I started Barstool, maybe seven years ago, eight years ago. And I really wanted a bubble hockey game. And like we fucking finally got one. I got the cool one. It actually didn't have the bubble on it, but it was a huge one. It was more of a, so it just, it was bubble hockey without the bubble. But we did Islanders, like Rangers, and I painted it. And you guys want to know what something? I called it

barstool arena and I painted it blue and red and I put one of the barstool stickers that came with the the clothes that I would buy like the barstool hoodie I put that at center ice and I made it like the barstool arena the red versus like the the blue team versus the islanders team and I actually sent it into Dave he used to he used to put up blogs every I mean now looking back it was probably gas or something but he would put up blogs every Friday or Saturday it was like Viva Stool from wherever and they'd show pictures of like army guys over in like Afghanistan like holding a barstool flag and

all these like it would be all these cool pictures and I remember Dave put up like barstool arena and it was my fucking picture of my bubble hockey set. It was like the coolest fucking shit ever man I remember going crazy and then three years later two years later I was maybe it was even like a year or two later I was pretty old doing this I remember it being the biggest moment of my life

and then all of a sudden I was just like travel in the country with them like seven months later, a year later, whatever. So it was kind of strange. But I fucking love bubble hockey. It's just my point. I love it more than anything in the world. It is so much fun.

And they're like the sweets here, the suite that I'm in the St. Louis Blues suite, which has like the logo and everything on there. Yeah, I saw it on the chair there. Oh yeah, there you go. So it's just been awesome.

I had a bunch of, you know, I've been in St. Louis for like three weeks running my operation, if you will, in and out of here. We went up to Michigan, went to New York for a few days, but I've been here a lot. I was here for 4th of July, and Hollywood Casino just kind of, I mean, obviously,

Penn Property, there are guys, but they put us up. Their restaurants are delicious. They got a Charlie Gitos here, which is a great Italian joint in town. And then it's just nice, too, to be able to go to the tables, play some blackjack, play a little bit of roulette with my day ones, as you will say, that are from St. Louis, who, you know, we've done a couple good night. It feels like normal. Feels like we're just out and about, having ourselves a good time, a couple drinks at

casino and then we got to come here and play pool and bubble hockey in my room, which has led to some intense nights. So Hollywood Casino St. Louis is fucking fantastic. I want to start going to some Islander road games now that the schedule is going to open up to different cities, and maybe that'll be a place that I want to go. Maybe I'll stay at the Hollywood Casino, see Isles, Blues. That would be a fun night. Dude, you definitely should.

It would be a blast. You can stay in the St. Louis Blues Suite, Frankie. Right. There you go. I like to play some fire. All right. next up again from you know a vacation taking time out of her day and cordelaine the sixth ranked player in the rolex world rankings she'd be playing in the olympics the solheim cup the british

open at carnoosey coming up and uh she's uh she's one of our favorites daniel kank what up hanging how are you pretty good how are you you guys are the only hot only ones i'm on time for today oh jeez i saw that Double phone drop to begin. I like it. Sit. Sit. Okay, it's good.

Sit. Nobody moved too quickly. Everyone's all good. Look at that 99 sweatshirt. I know. I'm at the hockey school and then I'm at the Gretzky hockey school right now and I'm sitting in the car because Wayne's doing his interview in the room. I just saw you on Golf Channel and Wayne jumped into the interview.

Was that okay? Because honestly, I'm going to have to throw my manager under the bus there. He told me the wrong. wrong time. So I joined Wayne for his workout circuit this morning. And then I ran back and I was supposed to take a shower and come to the rink and do the podcast. And then I thought it was at the following hour. And then all of a sudden I got a call from NBC sports. And I was like, what's going on? So I just threw on a hoodie and I went, oh my God. I looked like shit. I'm going to go on here. River and Tatum are running around everywhere. I was like, I'm like, this is fucking all of.

So you were on time. They just weren't on time. I wasn't on time. They were on time. I was on the wrong time. You were given the wrong time, but you were on the time that you thought you were supposed to be on. Yes. And then I felt so bad. But Wayne also made a cameo, so I think it made it all better.

They were shell shocked. Like, Amon and Bacon were just like, that's Wayne Gretzky right there. I know. They were like, okay, when I was talking to you, I'm like, oh, I can go. So we're on vacation right now. Is that what's going on? Yes, I'm on vacation. Why are you doing media when you're on vacation?

You're supposed to be on vacation. You know what? Work never stops. Always be working, right? You got to always keep riding in and working. What's this hockey? What's this hockey school look like? I can actually show you guys if you want.

Yeah. I mean, I want to see this. Oh. Okay. If you want to see it, I thought it's going to, I forgot this is four play. If you guys want to see it. I want to see it. I mean, you got a 99 thing on and weighing resties around.

I'm curious. So. this is the hockey school run by one of my best friends, Ty Gretsky, and then, all right. So you enter the school. There are the coaches in there. We got the parents. We got Wayne doing an interview.

Okay. Well, there he is. There he is. Oh, yeah, he's mid-interview. There's Wayne. I'm showing on foreplay what the hockey school looks like. So now we're looking at a rink. so I'll go to the rank now.

I got to go around Wayne. Or she's like they were interrupting a Wayne Gradsky interview. And then he's going to skate today. I'm going to, he's going to teach me how to get the puck airborne today. How's your, how's your,

how's your hockey skills? Um, I could skate, but, hi. Okay. So then now this is the hockey ring. You got the kids.

Look at the cute kids. Oh, a little hockey camp going on. And then this is River learning how to skate today. Oh, yeah. With the chair, pushing the chair. It's a classic move. This is four play.

Say hi. This is Ty. What's up, Ty? Look at River, learning how to skate. That's adorable. He just loves it. River is Dustin's second kid. How old's river?

River. River is four, I believe. It's a good time. He's a wild one. Oh, it's a cold. All right. That's just Wayne Gretzky right there with River. Look at this.

And then there's a hockey school. Rivers just passing a puck back and forth with Wingretzky. That's what we're looking at right now. Ooh. Oh, what a pass. Do you see that pass from River? He's got it already. I'm too cold.

I'll be back, guys. Oh, my God. Anyways, you guys got a full behind a scene's exclusive there. That was awesome. I got to be honest. That was very cool. I was watching Wayne Gretzky pass it back and forth with River Johnson. So this is, you're like just going to hockey camp and your week off?

Yeah, we have a, I came to hockey camp and I love spending time with the boys here. And, you know, it's just I see some, like, I love my. friends you know i just want to see my friends and kind of need to regroup and um what's better a place to do it than my friends are up here and who okay that was too cold less chilly you're not a cold you live in baggis you're not for the cold i love the cold i just need to put proper gear on where is this is this is cordal lane right now i'm in cordal lane yeah and then so we're just going to go to yeah we go to the lake We go jet skiing and, you know, get good pep talks from Janet and then going to be ready to go, get back into gear. Life's not all about just the grind, you know?

Does Janet give you the biggest pep talks or Wayne or Dustin? Janet's the best. If I ever need to be super, you know, motivated and re-realize, like what my, why I'm doing this. Like sometimes she just reminds me. She's your big hype girl. she's your big hype girl she's like a good motivational speaker yeah i mean you got to have that at time so do you play golf in your week off or you just get away from golf uh no i was supposed to play golf today but then i'm doing this with you guys so janet teed off without me how's fun golf for you

like do you can you play fun golf or do you just grind or what with the right people i could play fun golf with the right people what kind of people what do they have to be like just chill and having fun. I don't want people. If I'm playing golf, like, it's different because we do still bet and we have money games

or whatever it would be on the side. But it needs to be, it's got to be with the right people. I'll know. Or I just don't play recreational golf with a lot of people. Brother, that's a joke.

Like some guy said, oh, some guy sent a picture of me and David Lipski to somebody because we were practicing and then said, I played golf with Danielle and David today and then sent it to his buddy. And his buddy happened to do my brother's catty.

Send it to my brother's catty. And then he sent it to my brother. And my brother goes, there's no way. And my sister played with some random guy. And he goes, no, no, no, they play golf together. He goes, dude, I know my sister. She doesn't even play golf with my friends. There's no way she played golf.

Like, she's pain in the ass. Like, she wouldn't play just for fun today on a Monday. And then Alice calls me, he goes, did you play today? I go, no. He knew. Yeah. You know, yeah, I'm a consistent, I'm a habitual creature, so they all know.

So I saw something pretty relatable that you were posted, and I think it was yesterday about your golf bag being under 50 pounds, and that kind of shocked me because you're one of the best players of the world. Do you get shit if your bag is over 50 pounds? Yeah, if I'm flying, not flying Delta. I mean, I'm a Delta queen, but if I fly anything else and it's over 50 pounds, it's so much money. So you just are you like are you like us?

Do you pack everything into your golf bag like as much shit as you can get into your golf bag? You pack in there. No, actually I pack my suitcase a lot. How come your golf bags over 50 pounds usually then? Because I travel with 16 clubs minimum to umbrellas. I have golf. I always carry two dozens of golf balls my own. Carry bags of teas.

Carry my own bars. and two pairs of golf shoes and my Phil Kenyan putting mirror, the steel ones, but doesn't break. I just carry a lot of golf stuff in there. I didn't think about the fact that what's in your golf bag is very different than what's in my golf bag. Yeah,

that I got to carry all that. It's just, it's heavy. What are the 16, what are the two extra clubs? Hybrids. My title's hybrids. You know,

sometimes if I'm not feeling it and I don't think my body's going to hit it as well. Then I just got to get the little spooner. And then it's just going to scoop it up in the air. That's what I need. You just don't know until you get there that week or that day? You don't know until the day of, man. I wake up, you go to the golf course. I'm like, Ollie, I'm not fucking feeling it today.

Give me that hybrid. I'm not hitting a four iron today. And he just knows he swaps out the four iron. We swap it up. Yes, sir. How far does that, it just goes the same, goes the same distance? I have two. I have 23 degree and a 19.

because if I'm really not feeling it, then the 19 will go as far as the 23, but if I'm, it should be okay, it should be 23. 23 goes about 85 cover. Okay. Are there any really big shots

where you had like the hybrid in because that day you weren't feeling the four hour that you've hit before, like shots that are big in a tournament or won a tournament or anything? Actually my five would want me to turn it at Inverness. Wow. And then hybrid.

I can't remember anything I just played recently. Marathon, I did put the hybrid and hybrid was money there. I wasn't feeling it. I wasn't feeling it. I wasn't feeling it. I wasn't feeling it that week. And I was going, oh, man, I got to pick the hybrid. I don't think my four iron could catch the height.

The apex is too low. It's going to be like right there. I don't see it. I don't see it. And he goes, okay. I like the job. just the because i mean you're the six best player in the world right now and sometimes you're not it feels feels like we're like hopeless i dropped again keep going back in fifth were you fit yeah yeah

i keep i i just i drop and go back up drop and go back i just need to get my shit together i's just been not closing it lately do you do you pay attention to that a lot not as much as i i never used to until the Olympics. But I really don't pay that much attention anymore either. But I just want to, I do need to play better. So that's why vacationing. I just need to chill. What does get your shit together mean?

Like you're, you know, you said you dropped and then you were like, I'm going to get my shit together. Six in the world still, I mean, you're the six best at something in the world. It's been sloppy, though. It's been sloppy for a little bit. There's just, you know, I just want. I think I said this on the golf channel. Like I want to be,

I want to have a full heart and clear mind and clear eyes. Like that's what I want. That's what I see. And sometimes like, I mean, in life, like shit happens and things get in your way and you think about things or whatever. But I want to be able to put my full effort into what I want to do.

And I'm just, I'm just a passionate person. So if I only give it 90%, I feel angry because I feel that I could have done better. So as long as I've given it 100% and if I fail, I'd be okay with it. But if I don't give it 100%, and I fail, I would say it's sloppy.

And it's just, that's how you need to get your shit together. How much of that are you referring to is outside of tournament rounds? Like, do you mean get your shit together and that you're grinding, you're practicing 100%? It's everything. Okay. Like, I can't be waking up and be tired. I can't come home and say, and skip workout for an entire week, which I did recently, because I wasn't feeling it.

You can't do that. Like, you can, but I don't do that. So even if I skip workout, I still have the basic workouts that I do every morning and every night. Like it's not a workout. It's a warm up, right? And, but I even skip that. You shouldn't do that, but I did. So after I noticed that kind of sloppiness, it's not that I'm not motivated.

It's just I'm tired. And when I was tired, I know what I need to do to not be tired. Hence, I'm doing everything that I can. So I'm ready to go and just do what I normally do and be better. Ladies and gentlemen, it's heating up, it's hot. It's just hot out. It's hot out across the country. I'm seeing records in some places.

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How do you find? because clearly you're upset that you're sixth. Like that means deep inside your heart, you believe like you can be the single best. And you have. You've won, you know, major championship.

You won five times on tour. Like you think you can be the best. You know that there's times you're not doing what you need to do to be the best. So how does Danielle Kang motivate herself? I motivate myself by looking at the people around me. So I surround myself like people that surround. Wait a second. How do I work?

with this. The people that I'm surrounded by, there you go, not I surrounded myself, people that I'm surrounded by are some really cool, awesome people. And not, I'm not talking about big names or not. I'm just talking about all my friends that work really hard in their job, doing what they do. And whether it's Butch Harmon, I mean, that man works so hard for me. It's 117 degrees outside and he's coming out to watch me, hit balls, because he knows my wedges were shit and he wants to see it and he's coming out at that heat and the effort that these people put in for me that motivates me because I want to be the best for the people around me. And which always says that I need to be more selfish and more self-centered.

I'm actually not a very selfish person and yes, I understand there's no selfless or selfish. I get it. Like the no selfless get deep. I get it. People have that argument with me. But I'm saying like I don't think about me. I think about others before me. as in I want to do something for that person. Like I want to do better for that person. And Butch always says, like, do it for you. But then for me, he knows that I'm more motivated by doing it for other people. Like, I go to a tournament.

I go, I'll bring you back a flag, Butch. Like, we work so hard after the pandemic. I'll make sure to get to your flag. Like, that's kind of what motivates me. And if I go to a major, like wanting to get myself on a major wall. and I don't do everything I can to accomplish that, then I'm disappointed in myself. It's kind of, that's how I motivate myself more so than anything.

Like, think about your family, like my, like all the support. You know how much shit and drama my mom has to listen to in my life? Like, I, I mean, I don't know what I would do without that woman, but she has to hear some random shit. Like the things that I never talk about with anybody. And it is the dumbest. thing that bothers me and I will call my mom be like, guess what happened? I'm like,

this is pissing me off. This is pissing me off. My mom goes, okay, honey, like let it go or like, and then she listens. But she has to listen to so much bullshit, but if I don't have anybody to talk to my PS2, I wouldn't, I wouldn't know how to move on with it, you know? So, you know, and I, I don't know, that's what I'm.

I think it's, well, I just think it's, it comes off very admirable that your motivation comes almost from like this, desire to deliver for everyone else around you, right? Like, that's cool because other folks they can come off as significantly more selfish or cold-blooded or whatever if their motivation is like to do it just for them.

And really, you know, like selfishness is fine. Like we're all like we're all ourselves. So like who cares to clearly try and like make your life? Everybody selfish. Yeah, you need to be selfish to a degree. But it's very interesting. that almost like your selfishness comes from your selflessness. And you're like,

I know these other motherfuckers around me are going to be really happy if good things happen to me. So I need to make good things happen. So it's like a selfish selflessness. It's like kind of weird like it's good to me. But then I like it. So then technically because I like it like it. Like I don't know how you look at it.

But yeah, that's what people will say. So my friends always say like every time I get them really cool, I do this gear, I send them a bunch of stuff. And they're like, oh, thanks, bitch. Like you're such a selfish bitch. Thank you because it makes me feel good to send them something. Right. You're just doing it to please yourself so that they'll be happy that they have a Dita's

So we mentioned the Olympics earlier. Yes. Yeah, I mean the Olympics is, it's just weird this year. As everybody knows, like you guys aren't to be able to go to other events, but it's still, it's the Olympics. So, you know, comparing it to other events, majors, whatever. What's your, what's your, what's your hype level for the Olympics? My hype level level is just exceeded my entire barometer or anything, any measurement device possible.

Because I understand that it's, you know, it's not the same as other Olympics. And if I've been to other Olympics, I will let you guys know, but I haven't. So to me, it's my first Olympics. I am so proud of myself that I qualified and kept playing well. and solid and consistently for another 15 months, et cetera. And I kind of consider, I was like in my head, like I had to keep qualifying, you know, and because golf, like you never know what's going to happen.

I mean, you play golf, you know, one day you don't play good. It's not a fear that, I don't know, I'm getting off topic. Anyways, so me going over there when people say there aren't any fans, it's not going to be the same, like, you know, this and this and this. Okay, this is when I'm going to get selfish. I'm really not going there for like you. I'm going there for me and for my country. Like I want to make my country proud.

I want to represent my country. I want to compete in the Olympics. Like it's as simple as that. So for me to even have this Olympics to happen is just incredible because it almost didn't. You know, I might have. I think, well, I think that's the best answer I've heard where. Oh, really? Well, there's just no hesitation with you.

You were like, high level, it's the Olympics. Like, I'm going to the Olympics. You even, and you can tell it's genuine because earlier knew that you were tracking your world rankings because that's what got you into the Olympics. I cry. I've never cried more about my golf or rankings because of the Olympics than this recent times. I never cared about my rankings. I never cared about doing, beating someone or having good results or it'll naturally happen if I keep practicing. That was always, I always trust my process and my results came.

But this time, nope, I needed the results. And it drove me mad. Like, I was a freaking nightmare because I needed this. I wanted this. Like my phone screensaver has been the Olympics, Tokyo 2020 for five fucking years. Five years, my screensaver has been the same thing. It's just I look at it every day. And I'm like, that's all I wanted to make the Olympics.

And for it to not happen, I would. have been more devastated than anything. So how do you then kind of level off your, your hype level, your excitement for it so that you don't go in, you know, putting it too much on a pie to play your best golf? It's done. Me making it, I'm already on cloud nine. Okay. And competition, I compete every week.

That's still a competition. That's, that's kind of separate for me than just making the Olympics for me. like making the Olympics was the cloud nine the pedestal that drove me mad insane that anger like I wanted it and just was desperate like I've never gotten that desperate and I'm not desperate after that like now it's time to be game on you know now like we're got to go get there's one trophy we let's go get the trophy so golf golf is unique in that I feel like it's the only sport in the world. People say you can try too hard sometimes and that trying too hard in golf can like hurt you.

From your perspective of someone that's actually one of the best players in the world at the game of golf, do you have to balance that? Have you ever gone in to a tournament? I've been like, I just like wanted it too much or I put it like I said earlier, too high on a pedestal or how do you know that? Definitely. Because of the Olympics.

I've been trying so hard. I've been trying so hard to win. I've been trying so hard to secure the position. I thought I was going to be, you know, I don't know, I was going to drop or jump by somebody. Whatever it may be, I just tried so hard. Honestly, the word that comes to my mind is desperate. I was desperate. And golf, I can't control it.

I can't control what other people do. Like I gave myself opportunities to win. And I did give myself a bunch of opportunities to win. One of the proudest moments of my life is winning back to back. when I came out of the pandemic was because I was so geared that I needed to secure, but that wasn't secured enough. And then after that, I got desperate because it still wasn't confirmed.

So I felt deflated after I won. After feeling the high, like, oh, my God, like, this is what I worked for. This is what I wanted. Like, I fucking grinded. I'm going to come out here and win, secure my position. And then I won two tournaments, but it wasn't enough. And that's when I felt down and desperate. And it actually did a reverse thing on me.

And then for the last whatever months, I've been trying so hard to win that it's just my mom's like, it's not going to, honey, like it's, you're so desperate. And for no reason, it's done to stop. Like, where is your fun? Like, you don't do this. Like, why are you? You don't. And then I, my mom actually had a nice chat.

And it's just, I just feel much better about. everything. And one of the things is that I really want to enjoy the fact that I made the Olympics and you only get to make the Olympics for the first time one time. So that's what I'm doing. It's just enjoy it. How influential is your mom on everything on your day to day, on your career? Because it sounds like, you know, you keep referencing chats with her, conversations with her. How important is your mom and everything that you've got going on? She's honestly like my everything. So she's, she's my rock. Um, she, she, I don't know. I mean, there's nothing to even put words on for her because I don't know how I would do a lot of things without her because she's kind of like my confidant.

You know, she's there when I'm down. She's there when I need a when I'm up. She's there to remind me that everything's okay. Like to have somebody in your life to tell you that it's okay is a big deal. And somebody can tell you it's fine. But when you truly know that they actually believe it's fine and it's going to what I have with her. So. Can you, is there ever a time where you can sense that she doesn't think it's going to be fine? And you like, oh, no, she'll tell me. No, no. My mom does not. My mom does not bullshit. If she says, she'll tell me, honey, you know, you're, you're kind of, like she even says, like, if I'm slacking and if I'm like not, if I'm not playing well. And I go, God, I have not been playing well.

My mom goes, well, you know, have you been, she'll ask me, like, have you been putting as much time in that you would normally do? Or did you do what you're supposed to do? She doesn't know. She always gets me to realize. And if I gain weight, she'd be like, honey, you know, I'm like, mom, am I gaining away? She goes a little bit. Like, she's not going to be like, no, sweetie, you're fine.

Like, she's not that type of mom. She will not BS you. That's hilarious. Yeah. You recently just played the team event with Lydia Co. How close are you guys? How fun was that playing with her? I had so much fun.

Yes, we played bad. third day. I get it. People have sent me messages and, you know, commented. Like, why are you having so much fun when you guys are playing bad? Like, dude, I'm kidding me. Like, it's fine. Shut up losers. Shit. It happens. Like, relax. You know, do you think we wanted to make a triple? It's not our fucking fault. The number 16 has been a bitch to us the entire week. Like, I bog got that whole every day. Like, it's not, whatever. We, but Lydia and I, like, there was nothing of sorry or, hey, like, it's okay. Like, but we both.

that we wanted to play the best for each other. But we had so much fun. Like she's a great player. I've known her since she was, I don't ever know, like, it's, we've known each other for like 11 years now. And she honestly has been like my little sister. We don't play practice rounds very often.

We don't hang out of the golf course much at all, actually. But she's kind of like the sister that I have. Like you don't have to talk to them every day, but they're always there. I mean, we have matching tattoos for God's sake. So she has. So she's, it was the first time we got to play a team event and I absolutely loved it. And she, we were talking about it.

She goes, if we go back next year, like, looking out our schedule with me, she always says, she goes, I want you to be my partner and stuff. Give me the full, give me the full, give everybody the full story on the matching tattoos. 100% remember the story. But, but we got two little hearts. We both really wanted it. And then we both earned it. I do remember that.

We had to do something at the CMEA tour championship. So I ended up finishing top 10 or something. We both had to finish top 10 or something. And then I finished top five, I believe, or something. She won. And then we both went to some random boondock tattoo place in Florida. And then we just got it tattooed. I love that.

I absolutely love that. We got big stretch coming up. Olympics. You got a whole up, British Open. and I'm sure it'll be nice to have a little, you know, recharge going into that. Mm-hmm. I have the Olympics, a British Open and the Solheim. Don't forget Solheim.

Solheim are you most, like Solheim, you know, are your memories from that as good as any memories in golf because I just, I remember, just you had a big smile on your face. You were a savage. Um, the last time, I, you know, what is that? Like, what are those memories like for you? I have some good memories and some bad memories from Solheim. I mean, it's never good to lose, right? So Soheim is a 2017 is a special one that I'm going to remember for a long time.

And then I'm just really excited to play for United States again. So for me to be ready to compete in the Olympics and the British Open. And my importance was the Solheim too. You're still representing USA. Like, I want to be ready and I want to have the best part of my games ready to go. and I had to take that into consideration, you know, planning out my schedule because I'm representing, we're representing the USA twice in the next seven to eight weeks for, you know, over under. Nothing's more really important than that, right? It's bigger than, it's just bigger than us sometimes.

It's just bigger than myself, bigger than you. And sometimes it's about getting people together and nothing gets people more together than sports, in my opinion. Like, sports is just the pedestal for me. where people can just root for one another, be a team and cheer for each other and come together and hang out together. It's just, that's a cool concept. It's the best reality TV that there is, too. It's the best. And you know how hard people work, you know, to come out, go out there in any sport.

And what they go through mentally, physically, what they put their body through, like, all of it. You can't help with, like, roof of people. I love it. I completely agree. I think, look, I think you. you're very easy to root for. I love how you're just, you know, you're, it's like the hearts on the sleeve talking about the Olympics, Solheim, everything. So we'll be rooting for you. Good play. I'm glad you're, I'm very, very glad you made it into the Olympics. I can tell how fire you up you are

and, and, you know, took some vacation time to talk to me. So we very much appreciate it. No problem. Thank you guys. You guys got the whole tour today. You guys got a pretty cool tour today. We did. For you guys actually. Great. It was all, it's all timing. Life's still out timing. we had a Wayne Graskey cameo on the podcast. Never never happened before. I appreciate it. We appreciate it, Danielle. I don't want to take up your whole vacation.

So thank you very much. Seriously. All right. I want to go skate now. Good luck out there. Bye. Bye.