Fore Play - Dark Side Of The Moon feat. Pat Perez

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

Pat Perez (76:38) joins us for the who knows how many-eth time. We preview the Fore Man Scramble full video, which will be released Tuesday night on our YouTube channel. Pat gives his thoughts on the ...round, his mindset going into it, the Fore Man Scramble having a chance on the PGA Tour, the Tiger Doc, and much more. Before Pat, we discuss recent happenings with the PGA Tour, the European Tour, and the LPGA Tour. And we ponder the dark side of the moon!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. January 26th, 2021, I keep right in 2020. I know that's like a cliche. Everybody does that. I'm doing it as well. I'm looking at the outline right now, and I wrote 2020. So that's the wrong year.
Starting point is 00:00:21 2020 really sucked. 2021, in theory, should be better. We're going to figure that out because it's still very early. We got a lot to get to. a ton of golf over the weekend. I want to start, and I have to start, by saying that I have received my newest tailor-made clubs. So we went to the kingdom. We put the video out last week.
Starting point is 00:00:42 It was great. We also have Pat Perez, four-man scramble, coming out tonight. Tuesday night, Pat Perez is on this show, so there's a lot to look forward to. We need to all that. But the kingdom came out last week. We went to the kingdom like three weeks ago. We got fitted. And then it takes a couple weeks to get your stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:55 They've got to build it out and do the thing and all that. I got my clubs and I think everybody's gotten their stuff now, but I obviously am in the one that lives in fucking Scottsdale. Now I'm in Pioneers. So I've gotten to use. Saturday I use my new clubs for the first time. The SIM two driver that I have and there's on my ad read list right here is not even Taylor Made.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Taylor May is not even on the ad read list. We are sponsored by Taylor May. We should probably say that. The SIM two driver that I have is legitimately changing my game for the better more than any other single thing that's ever existed in life to the point where Thomas, our caddy that caddied for us when we beat Kevin Kisner, Thomas, my boy Jeremy, Dave, Dave, you guys all know Dave Galinsky here really well, my buddy Mike. Like when I hit my tee shots, everyone is just laughing on the tee. They're like, this is a gym, like this fucking guy with his golf swing,
Starting point is 00:01:49 with his pathetic, hardcore inside, super flat, no hips. And I'm just hitting, dude, my drives are laugh out loud, funny. The ball just goes really high and far and is in the air forever and straight. And everyone is just, like, people are looking at me like, almost like I imagine they look at Mr. Borelli when he has that fucking club where you hit a button and the ball just shoots up into the sky and goes out of the green. Like, this isn't, this isn't a real, like, what are you doing? Why are you doing this bullshit cheat code thing? What, like, why? It's not fun for you to play golf as a cheater. Why aren't you just playing real normal golf like the rest of us? The driver is laugh out loud funny.
Starting point is 00:02:29 So I'm very excited for you guys to put yours into play because the SIM two is honestly a joke. Like using it as a joke. I'm so jealous that and I'm sure the rest of the guys can relate because I got my stuff as well. But I live in New York City and I unwrapped them all. I put them all in line up against the wall and I just stared at them. They're beautiful. They are beautiful. I haven't gotten shit.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yeah. I've only got, well, I got my putter and driver. I haven't gotten a putter. That's it. I got my three wood. I got five wood, and I also got my five iron hybrid. Those are the ones that I got. I haven't got my putter.
Starting point is 00:03:06 You got a five iron? They just set you an iron? No, no, a five iron hybrid with that I've been trying to use. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So I put those off. He just set you a five iron. No. Such a tease.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And I just look at them. Dude, I cannot wait to get those clubs. I have the putter. I've been putting around with it. they did something to my putter. They gave me like the heaviest putter in the world. I don't know why, but I love it.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Like you have to, like the shaft on this thing is a thousand pounds. It's just, I don't know what it's made out of, but it's, it's crazy. And they just sent me a spider, which we didn't agree upon,
Starting point is 00:03:43 but I will be using the spider. I will be using the spider because it's fucking sick. Spider? Yeah. Let me tell you this about the fucking spider. It's so sick. You can, and I've watched,
Starting point is 00:03:54 even like, Rahm would use it forever. I know now he's over, he moved over, but he was still using the spider. DJ's using it. Rory using all the best players in the world are using it. And when they pan to those guys within like 10 feet of the hole, it legit looks like with that physics behind the spider, there's no way to miss. It's possible to miss.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You literally out here, especially because I got Thomas on it, so he just gives me the read. And I'm like, it's almost like in the video game like Golden T where you just go forward and like the ball just can't miss the hole. You just go. That's honestly, I'm like, why are we even put? inside of 10 feet on the golf courses. Like the ball just goes exactly where it's impossible to put it off line. Like it's not possible to put it off line.
Starting point is 00:04:36 People are going to listen to this and they're going to think that like we're just juicing up these clubs. Wait until you see the way I played when we played these Taylor Made guys. When they put these clubs in my hand, you're, I told one of the guys that Taylor made like this is the promotion right here. Like the fact that what I'm doing out here with these clubs is a joke. The fact that Riggs is shown up to Pioneers, making people fall on the floor laughing. Like, these clubs are a joke.
Starting point is 00:05:02 They shouldn't be in rotation. Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I saw that tweet from Riggs of, like, him hitting, like, long ball woods. And I laughed out loud because that's just not your game, especially what it was and, like, what your boys knew that it was just, like, a month ago. I mean, your game was hit it off the map, punch something up there, chip, and have a good look like a five footer for par and you would do that like on a pretty consistent basis and like still like put together a really good score so the fact that that swing still the same
Starting point is 00:05:33 swing is now just roping bombs off the tea is one of the funnier things in the world and then the putting i just am putting it like at my place right now and i am obsessed with this thing because the only takeaway i got from really you know being at the kingdom and getting fitted was this idea of degrees of miss and like my putter that i was using I would have like, I would hit it like, I pull it eight degrees left and then 12 degrees right. And now with that spider, dude, I just hit like everything pretty straight where, yeah, sure, I'd miss something, but it's burning the edges on like a 10 foot putt. Sometimes I would like pull it off the putting mat.
Starting point is 00:06:10 And so I'm obsessed with this thing, point like where I think, I legitimately now think that the senior tour is in play for how I'm wrong. Like I think all of a sudden, I'm going to be incredible. The thing that the spider has taught me, because I've, got one as well is that I don't think they could put too much weight on a putter for me. Like I want as much weight on that thing as I can get. I don't care if there's an anvil at the end of that thing. It just helps keep it straight and like not, you don't go offline because it almost doesn't let you.
Starting point is 00:06:37 So my, my spider, I love that thing as well. Yeah. And look, like we're not, we're self admittedly probably below average equipment guys. Like most people that are in golf or a lot of people that are in golf as we've learned with when we've done the are made stuff now, the people that come out of the woodwork and want to know, there's a screenshot and what putter we're holding, what weds were holding, what driver they notice. The average golfer appears to be more of an equipment head, a gear head, whatever you want
Starting point is 00:07:06 to call it than we are. And now that we're getting this taste of the equipment, like it's, it's, it consumes your life. Like I get it. And I'm looking now, too, and I was, you know, I was thinking today, I said my buddy, Jeremy, who I eat my high school buddy, one of my best friends in the world. world. We've done golf trips together. And he's legit. We're now three days into this down here. We played mid pines, piders number two, piders number four. And he's legitimately like mad at me
Starting point is 00:07:31 because of the driver. And he's like, this is not, we can't, you and I can't have our match until I get the tailor made stuff. He's like, I don't, this isn't, this is bullshit. It's like, if you're playing, if you're playing, if you're playing, like, playing 2K and not having the best one. And somebody's got a controller. Right. That's like, offline. And you're like, I can't play. And then the other guy's got home where the ball just goes dead straight and far. But they're like, this doesn't matter. Like, I could be the smartest, best, most coordinated video game player in the world. And I can't fucking beat you.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Like, this is bullshit. And that's, he's mad at me. He's like, he's like, upset. He's playing hickory clubs. He might as well be playing hickory sticks. And dude, you should hear me on every tee when these guys hit their tea shots. And they just don't do what my ball does. And I'm like, wow, you've got that plastic technology.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Like, what are you guys doing with that? I don't even know, like, we're not equipment guys. now we are becoming, and it's hard not to, hardcore equipment guys. And I just, again, I've, you know, we've been fitted before. We've done equipment deals before. This is like, it's a joke. It's laugh out loud, funny, and it's making golf so much fun to play. Frankie's point is hysterical from last show of the fact that we went to the kingdom,
Starting point is 00:08:40 got fitted and legitimately didn't do like a what's in the bag or like nobody knows what we did. It's one of the biggest missing, but it allows for some more content next time because, Yeah, I mean, the fact that, like, we didn't share that, shaft, anything is simply amazing. But, yeah, I mean, I, I am so excited about using this putter. It's incredible. To the point that I'm trying to humble myself and being like, no, you're still probably going to struggle a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:06 But at this point, I think that if it's within 10 feet, I'm going to make the punt. It is short, short-range putting with the spider is, is to me completely life-changing in the putting game. I'm still working on the lag putting, and that's what some people said. But I wasn't a great lag putter before anyway. So it's not like lag putting.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Oh, I was lights out. Now it's like, no, nobody's lag putting is just really hard. It's not something you practice very often. But inside of like eight, 10 feet, if you just have the line with the spider, it's like impossible to miss. It just, you just can't miss. And again, there's a reason that DJ that Rory,
Starting point is 00:09:46 like all these guys, more, like all these guys in the top five are just using it. There's a fucking reason that they're all using it. So, correct. I actually, when they pan to somebody that's using a blade putter now, and I've been a spider guy for about three days, when they pan to somebody in the coverage that's using a blade, I like laugh.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I just kind of give a disapproving almost a sarcastic laugh of like, why would you just be using something inferior when you're playing competitively? I don't get it. It's like, did somebody, is there like a challenge that he's doing on this hole? why are they using the spider? It's crazy town that somebody would use it. How much distance you think you picked up on the driver? So my buddy Jeremy has always, always outdriven me.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I mean, I can't, you can't say that name without me thinking of Jeremy the song, which it's just crazy. But go ahead. It is weird that you can't do it. But he legit has always. Jeremy. If you're going to do it, if you're going to do it, you're going to do it. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:10:49 Go ahead, go ahead. Always out driven me by at least 10 or 15 yards, at least. And the first two rounds that we played especially, today was cold and rain. It was hard. You're just trying to survive. It was, I was hitting it on Goodholt's like 15 to 20 yards past it. And he was just like, what the fuck is this? Like, what is going on?
Starting point is 00:11:10 You don't hit the ball this way. And it wasn't, you know, sometimes I hit these sloppy, like, low hooks that I'm just trying to get. But, dude, I'm just swinging freely, and it's just this high towering ball that just stays in the sky forever. And people, again, people are legit just, they're like talking to other groups. Like, are you fucking seeing this pathetic motion that this human being puts on the ball and what it's producing in terms of ball flight? Is anybody looking at this? It's just, it's a joke. And it's making golf very fun.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And maybe it's a chance that I'm just, for whatever reason, like my swings just, because we always talk. Every time we tee it up, we're a different golfer. Like my golf swing is totally different. So there's a chance I'm just going through a three-day stretch where I'm swinging it really great. But it's pretty fucking coincidental that I got my SIM two on Saturday. First round I played Saturday, and I've just been driving the ball like a stallion.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So if you want to connect the dots, that's what I'm doing. And it seems like the club is helping a lot. So it's extremely exciting. All right. We got, like I said, we've got much to get to. The Pat Perez Scramble, four-man Scramble, we'll be out tonight on our U-T-W-T, two, we're going to be in the chat, as we always are.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Frankie's favorite place in the world. So you might want to take some medicine or something. Frankie, get yourself mentally in the right place to handle the chat. But this is probably top, bottom, we all agree. Probably our best four-man scramble video. Pat Perez is a phenomenal character. He played great. It was true north, so it's like a little bit target golfy. So he didn't have to play defensively like Kisner had to play. He could just go at flags.
Starting point is 00:12:41 And he made a million birdies. We played probably the best. we've ever played and we're all drinking and having a good time. So this scramble video again, I think, and with the ending, is going to be hard for us to ever top. Yeah, and we were talking to the group chat the other day just with everybody. Jake, our producer even said, like, this is where we finally just like figured out what we were doing.
Starting point is 00:13:04 We've done enough scramble at this point. We figured out how to shoot it. Like you said, Riggs, we played well. Pat Perez played well. And like, when you get a guy like Pat and Joel was the same way where their character, and they're very genuinely funny. They're just going to be talking the whole time, and they're wearing mics, and we have cameras on them,
Starting point is 00:13:20 so you get to see all of that. With the ending, everything, it's definitely the best scramble we've done so far, so you just have to watch it, and you're going to enjoy yourself again. Yeah, we got the car cam back. We've got a bunch of good cameras on this one. It's just a really good video.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Pat is just, like you're saying, it's a combination of everything, but I think more just finding. the right golfer on the tour that really can like open it up because aside from that that's just us four guys playing with someone that doesn't want to play and and pat wanted to play he wanted to play wanted to win and that makes a huge difference you'll see that in the video it's really cool to watch a pro try and beat us like he tried to I think that's a big difference between a guy just showing up well he had why you saying Joel just kind of showed up no no no
Starting point is 00:14:11 I'm saying that's what makes this series just like really good because we're finding people that like really like are grinding over like trying to win. I mean, Joel definitely had different headspace that day if we're being honest. Yeah. Like he was just out to lunch at one point. I mean, it wasn't really but you kind of like teed that up for me.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, sorry, he was like wearing sneakers and like it didn't feel like Pat showed up, got a range section in. Like we all hit our balls in the first. He's like, oh, this is going to be a problem. But then he stuffs one you know on the first. And then you go through the day seeing examples of, I think each of these people that we play with,
Starting point is 00:14:48 but you start seeing examples of why they're pros and why you're not. Like at one point we're like, oh, no, that's good. And he goes, no, I need to make this. And then, you know, you can watch to see out if he does. But like, you just see that. And you're like, oh, no, you have a drive that I guess I don't have. And that's why you're so good because it is,
Starting point is 00:15:07 he was wildly impressed to see hit the golf ball. I mean, he was hitting irons that were just on a string. that just when he hit them you're like oh no that's going to go exactly where he thinks it's going to go because that thing is just online like when you see a person like kawomorakawa in person play it's not necessarily surprising or it doesn't shock you because you know how mature and locked in and dialed in throughout his whole life it's like every meal every minute every thought exercise is all geared towards playing the best golf any human can play. And when you see a guy like Pat Perez do it, Pat Perez is boozing. He's cool as fuck. He's all about his Jordans.
Starting point is 00:15:54 He's got this crazy house that overlooks all the Scottsdale. And he likes to have drinks and dinner. And he's drinking wine with Coke rack after a Monday at the tournament. And he's just like kind of, so when you, it's a little bit, it slaps differently a little bit when you see a guy like Perez stand on the fucking tea. and still and strike the ball just as impressively as a guy like we just mentioned, like even like a fucking tiger or like a Moracama. Like he's on that level.
Starting point is 00:16:23 He's one on the tour, through the like him doing that right in front of our faces while having a screwdriver in his hands and laughing it up and that was stunning. And the juxtaposition between his character and his personality and then his ability to be an elite athlete in the world. of golf and doing all that at the same time was just downright impressive. Right. Like we'd be on a tea and you're going to see all this.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So, but like he'd be talking drinking, we'd be on a tea. We'd all tea up a ball hit it. And then he stopped talking for a second, throw it out a ball, not even teed up and hit a three wood and just go right by all of us. I don't think you teed a ball up the whole day. Didn't tee a ball up the whole day. Fucking crazy. Fucking rope these three woods that I just, it's, he's just different and you're going to
Starting point is 00:17:09 see it. You have to watch it. On our YouTube, it's just so good. What's crazier, the fact that he did that or this fact that I read today, that the dark, the dark, the dark side of the moon, we never see it. It always rotates with us. The moon that we see, the light side of that moon is always in rotation and access around the sun with us and our vision that we actually never see the dark side of the moon. It's not like it turns and then the dark side becomes the light side. There's no way that that's true.
Starting point is 00:17:43 That's what I got. Someone message me that, man. No. Tell me. You know how Frankie facts work. It's facts. It's facts before fiction. But Derek, Derek Cape said, man, I got to tell you something.
Starting point is 00:18:01 He goes, we've never seen the other side of the moon because it rotates at the same rate as the earth. We always see the same size of the term dark side of the moon came out. But what if I travel to China? Then I'll see the other side of the moon. side. That just can't be right. That can't that could go down as the dumbest thing set on the podcast. Well, I know. No, because you're just traveling around the same thing. We're all on this Earth. We all right. You're not getting around the moon, bro. China's not a different rock. Dude, China would have to be off of the planet. China would have to be on the other side of the moon.
Starting point is 00:18:34 This is what I'm hearing. The fact that we are rotating the same pace as the moon. So if we're looking at the moon and it takes us a day to rotate, takes the moon a day to rotate, then if I travel to the other side of the globe, when it was sunlight for them, it's obviously dark here, so it would be the same for the moon, so then I would see that dark side that I would see would be light, yada, yada. The way I'm looking at it, and this could be wrong, because I don't know anything, but I someone fact check this? The Earth always has one vantage point on the moon, and nobody else has a different vantage point than that. Right, because what you're not getting lurch is the moon doesn't just rotate. It also moves.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So like, if it's at the same rate, it's not like people in China, if you can't see the moon, that doesn't mean you're just seeing a different side of the moon. Like, you just can't see the moon. Right. Like, so China, China's on the other side of, like, if China's straight that way right now on the other side of Earth, they can't see the moon because Earth's just in the way. Right. Yeah, maybe. You see what I'm saying? But yeah, sometimes you do see the moon while you're on a sunny day. I'm looking at the ground right now. And what's that about? Like that way. What's the deal with me seeing the moon on like a sunshiny day? It just appears. That is fucked up. I agree. I don't know. That's some bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I listen to. I'm going to reject this fact. I'm going to be the first person to come out and just say this fact is inaccurate. I listen to that motherfucker, Neil deGrasse Tyson. Relax. He's a he's a mother effort man he is so smart that you need to talk aggressively towards him like him do you like him i don't know how i feel about him he is so incredibly cocky and so incredibly smart and intelligent i think like he just knows such an array array of things yeah that it blows your mind and i don't know that he knows everything perfectly but the the his his knowledge knows no boundaries. He's a different one because he's also a showman. He's smart, but he's also he's great when he goes on a podcast or when he goes on a show, he'll let you know how smart
Starting point is 00:20:51 he is and he is super duper smart. So I listen to him on, I'm just getting into Rogan and I know that's like, that's like how we're just getting into YouTube. But like, did you, you know we're on Facebook? Do people have people about Facebook? So, but like, Greg is like I stumbled upon this podcast. It's the Joe. This guy Joe Rogan knows how fucking talking to a mic. But I went back and listened to all of his best episodes. And that Neil deGrasse Tyson one is one of them, like one of his first ones.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And like you could just tell that just like we don't know, like me living on this earth, I don't know enough about what's going on. I just don't. Like I don't even know. I don't know one one millionth of what Neil knows. Right. And that's not enough.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. Like, dude, like microwaves. microwaves actually heat up the molecules of water. So like the plate will never get hot from the microwave. It only gets hot from the food getting hot. A microwave cannot heat up a solid with no liquid inside of it. It's impossible. It actually takes the molecules.
Starting point is 00:22:00 No, but yeah, but that's not from the microwave. It is absolutely not from the microwave. It's from the food on the plate getting hot. And this is something, you know, guys Tyson says and you want to swerve off the side of the road he's talking to you like you're an asshole but it's so fucking smart
Starting point is 00:22:15 he's like yeah there's fucking molecules being shaking around in a way that the food gets hot I mean the science thing as a podcast we should avoid because this room there's not many answers there's just a lot of questions
Starting point is 00:22:31 this is like the show wall it's super interesting shit though bro oh it's amazing he's talking about like Christopher Columbus new astronomy and knew that there would be like a blood moon. So he has this book that's out that's like about, it's equating, it's a fucking asshole name of a book. It's like why the universe helps the war or something like that.
Starting point is 00:22:52 I don't know. I tried to read one of Neil DeRas Tyson's books and it's the book where it's like the dumb down version. He literally made a book, I'm pretty sure that was for dumb people. It was like astrophysics for people in a hurry. In a hurry. Astrophysics for people in a hurry or something like that. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:06 So that's like he's definitely trying to. dumb it down for us. I read 10 pages. I threw that thing away. Anyway, real quick, we don't have to get into a whole thing, but like, he says like, Christopher Columbus knew there would be a blood moon. There would be an eclipse and there would be a blood moon. And he told, said, like, when he came to America, he's like, I need, I need these supplies from you or wherever he went. I need these supplies. And they're like, no, like, this is all of our supplies. And he's like, well, if you don't give it to me, I'm going to turn that moon red. Oh. And they're like, fuck you. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:23:37 the moon turns red and he's standing up on top of a fucking mountain and they're like, well, there's the devil. Like, I mean, yeah, like, what is going on? How did he know that? And they just gave him all his crops and he went on his way. So it's like there, he says, he claims there's a lot of instances where people use astronomy to win war battles and move on and increase their cells. It's, uh, it's quite, it was quite, it's, it's been quite an experience for me trying to, trying to get more knowledgeable about I like Neil deGrasse Tyson because I like that there's people that are that much smarter than me. Like that makes me feel comfortable. Have we backchecked the moon thing yet?
Starting point is 00:24:16 Let me tell you this. Have you guys heard of the battle of the eclipse before? I think you're right about the moon thing. I gave a quick look of that and it seemingly looks like the fact that you only see. The dark side will always be for our intensive purposes. We'll just never see that side. That is unacceptable. So I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Turn the light on from the fucking... You do a few things. So one rotation of the moon is about the same as a day. So maybe you see a little bit of it here and there, but it's seemingly cool... We need a huge mirror. Yeah, or just... And maybe that's why we all should know less than, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:57 this guy Neil, because, like, we don't... I don't need that on me. You can keep that fact. I don't want to know. And that episode starts talking about our calendar, and I'm not even going to get into it. Like why we need leap years. And the second,
Starting point is 00:25:10 the leap year brings us back. Beep, beep, beep. I like, rigs, I like the mirror idea. Like, forget about, like, trying to figure out what's inside of a black hole. I want to see what's on the other side of that moon. Let's launch a big old mirror out there that's got lights on it. And let's all pull together for that.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Somebody just hold it up. Just get a crew to just hold that bitch up. And we could just see the other side of the moon. And then we would know. Dude, what if we get a fucking spaceship? ship up there and you just blast the light and there's just a whole world of people like oh like fuck dude
Starting point is 00:25:40 like what the fuck they're looking at the light like oh turn the lights off it's been here the whole day it's been here the whole time just a fucking world if we're going to do the astronomy thing I have to bring it up
Starting point is 00:25:56 the Battle of the Eclipse that sounds unreal which is something that I heard I believe listening to Dan Carr owns it's hard court history, which I've mentioned on this show before. But it was, I think, like the 6th century BC, and these two armies were, these two nation states were in like a six-year war. And they were finally coming to a head.
Starting point is 00:26:18 It was a massive battle. And unbeknownst to them, it happened to be on the same day, like right in the middle of fucking day, as a massive solar eclipse. And as they're fighting, the sun just disappears. and they were so beholden at the time to the gods and astronomy and stars that they ended up because of that they called the battle a draw and settled a gigantic peace treaty because they were like, holy shit, the gods don't want us to go to war so much so that the sun disappeared in the middle of our battle. Yeah, I mean, what else would you think is going on back then? Like, the fucking sun goes away. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Like, imagine how much. of a fuck you it is from the gods that in the middle of us decided to fight the sun just disappeared in the middle of the day like that's never happened in the history of the world like no documentation the sun doesn't just disappear comes up every day that's one of the more cliched things in the world
Starting point is 00:27:16 sun just comes up every day today we decide to battle and the sun just disappears the middle of the day what's called a draw let's sit down at the table and let's come up with a tree. That's fucking incredible that is fucking incredible brilliant. Dude all this shit blows my mind
Starting point is 00:27:32 One last one that I just have, I've been talking about like crazy. Now you can, this is just based, this is Neil DeGrasse Tyson's way of thinking, but you know, you could think of religion or whatever. But if you go the way of like people in Pangia and the way that people like moved around the earth and so they came from like Asia and there was a land bridge that they were actually able to cross over during the ice age and they came into North America. Right. So like that's how they think that that happened. Now, well, what happens at, I'm speaking like Neil now. He goes, what happens after? the ice age happens. The waters rise. And now you have a population of people that are stranded on a new area of the earth that they can't get back to where they had first originated from. Right. So we have like evolution. We have like our eyes, our ears. Everything's the way that they came from where they were. Now, if we stayed on North America, South America, this whole area, and no one like Christopher Columbus, Christopher Columbus, bad dude in the fact that he stole like people's land, and like fucking brought over diseases, which Neil deGrasse also says he brought diseases back with him.
Starting point is 00:28:37 But if he never comes here and sees this, right, and finds this area, and these people are stuck on this island by themselves and don't reconnect with other humans from that area of the world, he claims that if tens of 20, 30, 40, 100,000 years go by, that it's a new species on this side of the earth. Like we, we adapt and change because there's no human interaction with another. So basically, like, humans interacted with humans again when he came back to this continent for the first time in thousands of pun.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You know what I mean? Isn't that fucking crazy? All right. Like, like, like the world connected again. And he's wondering, like, what would have happened had the world never connected? Because, right, like, a certain continent of humans could have just evolved and veered into a different species. Like his, his points, like kangaroos have pouches in Australia because there's, just like they're, that's how they are over there. And like wolves and dogs and like they
Starting point is 00:29:38 change from based off of like your climate and your change. But now we like intermixed and we will always have the human species. No one on earth is more scared of anything than Jake Bass is of kangaroos by the way. Yeah. Great question. I have my hand on. I don't have the answer, but go ahead. How long does it take to like evolve a new species? Like let's say everybody just locked away. Long time. Yeah. Did he give a date on that? He's 100,000 years. Like, every social experiment, if we just push people off to Greenland, like, said, like, no, you can't, you can't talk to them for 100,000 years?
Starting point is 00:30:11 What happened? I bet if you, I bet if you put, yeah, I mean, I bet if you put, like, I mean, they would never survive, but if you put people on just like an island for 100,000 years, they would absolutely change and adapt. That's interesting. You don't think so? No, I think so. I definitely think so.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I agree. I think it's crazy. It makes very much sense where, like, everyone came from this one area. Right. I get it. They got separated. And now it's like, all right, now it's your turn to now be like that kangaroo where you can now grow a pouch. But instead, in time, they came back around the other side of the earth and they made it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 And now we meet all over the fucking plan. Think about how fucking long a hundred thousand years. Oh, my God. Right. Because the problem is the people who come up with the idea are not going to come anywhere close to seeing what happens. No. Like, we're talking the Roman Egyptians and stuff for what, like 2,500 BC. So that's 4,500 years ago.
Starting point is 00:31:11 We're talking 100,000 years ago. Right. That's a joke. How much our brains have evolved in just 100 years, I feel like. I mean, just advances in technology, modern advancements. It's like what you can do in 100,000 years is just, I don't know. It's just crazy. what you can do, you come up with Owen's mixers.
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Starting point is 00:33:33 It's the first time I ever saw Tiger Woods in person. I've told that story a bunch, but Oklahoma doesn't necessarily get the most golf love of all time. There was pretty much hinted that it was either going to be like there or maybe Beth Page Black or maybe Liberty National. Ultimately, it's going to go to Southern Hills. So that place looks awesome. I don't know that we have to go into that a ton, but a nice little news bump there. Siwu Kim won the American Express yesterday. Pretty wild finish.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I mean, that, you know, they go low loud there, obviously. But like Patrick Cantley came in and just shot a 61 on Sunday, a 61, 11 under four, one round of golf. Fucking low. Yeah, I think he was, I, you know, so Lurchy's loose picks, 0 for 5 this weekend, not a great. You can't even say it with his big face anymore. Dude.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Dude, how about, how about, I know you're going to go to your loose picks unless you don't want to. But how about, Kateley was. 67 after Friday and I looked at him and I was like, no, I'm going to go to the boys that I like. So I went with people that I know. But I really, I regret that decision. Dude, how about, how about Doug Gim T5? Where early a couple, like a month ago, we were talking on the show about season predictions. And I think it might have been Lurch who was like, I think Doug Gim is going to get himself a win this year and kind of got laughed out of the building.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I know Doug Gim is our guy. He's dealt with injuries in the past so we don't really know what to expect. But he played great this weekend. his odds went up significantly from when Lurch said that he has a chance to win a tournament this year. Well, because I was going through people because we were amazed like, you know, the talent pool of golfers is insane. So I remember scrolling down. He was at some outrageous number, like 280 or 360. I forget what the number was. But I was like, that's a guy that potentially could win a tournament.
Starting point is 00:35:20 And then lo and behold, he gets damn close and gets T5. And good for him because I think the coolest thing about golf, it's like a natural market. but for those guys trying to make it, they're looking for one of those big results to get a big check, to validate their year, pay for a lot of expenses and continue the golf journey
Starting point is 00:35:36 because it's not easy by any means. So congrats to him on a huge finish. Yeah, Dougie, with a $247,900 payday for a top five. It's his first top five in his PGA tour career. And he does have the amateur pedigree. He finished low am at the Masters. He told a bunch of good stories about that.
Starting point is 00:36:01 When he was on our show, he lost to Doc Redmond in a 36-hole wild finale at Riviera in the U.S. Amateur Final. I think that was 2017, where, I mean, Doug, I think was two up, a two to play and had like five feet for Bertie on 17. And Doc Redmond made like a 70-foot slider for Eagle to win that hole. keep the match alive. And then he made like a 10 footer for Bernie on the 18th hole, which was actually the 36th hole to produce or to force a playoff and ultimately won in the playoffs. So like you get somebody that damn near should have won the U.S. Amateur and then finishes low Amateur and the Masters. Like you're as good of an amateur golfer as you could pretty much be. And now that he's got on tour, like you said, he had a couple injuries.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It's not easy to transition from college golf, amateur golf to playing on the PGA tour. And now he started to play well. He had a good fin of. in Bermuda. He's posted some good rounds here and there in the last four or five months. And for him to finish top five, super cool. So good call by Lurch. It would be awesome at Doug Jim won a fucking golf tournament. That'd be amazing. But a really good finish from him. Tony Fienow, sort of the opposite. Where it's like, dude, you're really good and you need to win some of these tournaments. Tony Fienow's stats. Now he finished fourth place. Another really good showing. He's made a ton of money. He seems like a very happy-go-lucky guy.
Starting point is 00:37:26 guy with a nice little family and all that. But this is, he's got the most top 10 finishes on tour since the start of the 2016, 2017 season, and he's got 35, 35 top 10 finishes without a victory on the PGA tour since the beginning of the 2016-2017 season. It's awkward. It's now, it's super awkward with Tony's being out. And those stats you just read off,
Starting point is 00:37:54 he's starting to turn into like the way, Gretzky of not winning, where he's starting to put up, you see these stats and you're like, I can't believe that. That's incredible, but it's for all of the wrong reasons. And we've had this discussion before because every time Tony's in contention and it doesn't end up winning, we have this conversation where, yes, finishing in the top 10 that many times is awesome. You're going to make a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You're going to be living great. It's going to be awesome. But you just got to win again at some point. Otherwise, this is going to continue to be the conversation where you're so talented. talented, you're so good, you're always there, you're in contention all the time, but why can't you just win and make all of this conversation go away? Because it is starting to get awkward. For him too, it seems like Rory, I feel like has like a Sunday thing. Like even in Abu Dhabi this past weekend, he got at dueled, I think shot even par, and Tyrell
Starting point is 00:38:47 Hatton had a great day and I ended up winning. But I feel like Rory's is solely like Sunday. Sometimes it doesn't pan out for him. Where Tony he puts together like four solid days. It feels like for the most part. It doesn't feel so much proud of the weekend or the weekend that he struggles. He just doesn't win, but he always comes up in the top five, top 10. And obviously when you're talking about getting paid, he's getting paid. But it is weird that he's not coming out on top for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And I don't know what that is. It doesn't so much seem like Sunday nerves. It just seems like, yeah, just not getting it done for whatever reason. Just got to get it done. This can't be your brand anymore, Tony. like, you know, you gotta just get it done. We miss. Talked about it with a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:39:33 He missed a couple of horrific puts. He was, I mean, he started out birdie, birdie on Sunday. People were like, oh, crazy, Tony Fienow tracker, Colby was firing off fucking bang, bang emojis. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, it just fucking, dude, ooh, it's just a free ball. Tony's like going down the cart, like me and Trent in that fucking Joel Damon video where we, Colby. Colby is one of our longest tenured tech guys, and we have been talking to him about Tony Fienow since we started this podcast. It's been four years. Colby is a guy who just wants Tony Fienow to win more than anything to the point where, like, Frankie's saying, anytime Tony is in contention, he changes his Twitter name to the Tony Fienau tracker, and then you get to watch it.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And now it's sad because Tony'll be playing great Friday, Saturday. and Colby's tweeting on all these bird emojis and it's an exciting time. And then Colby starts to get more quiet on Sundays as Tony misses these makeable putts. And it's really hard on our guy Colby. And that is the number one reason I want Tony Feenow to win because I want Colby to finally be happy. And look, it's a little bit tough because looking at this past weekend, this past Sunday, like Tony Feeneau tees off. He's right there. It's high for the lead.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I mean, he shoots four under 68. finishes 19 under for the week. And these other fucking guys, Seawu Kim shot 8 under 64. Patrick Cantley shot 11 under 61. Cameron Davis shot 8 under 64. And it's like you gave up. I mean, dude,
Starting point is 00:41:11 he shot 4 under on Sunday. He gave up, what, seven shots to Patrick Cantley? Like he picked up seven shots on him. And you yourself shot 4 under 68. So it is, it's not necessarily an, And yes, he's got those makeable puts that he misses,
Starting point is 00:41:27 other guys he made. But it is, it's got to be frustrating. And it's also clearly, once it becomes a thing, it's that much harder to get over. You know, it's like Frankie with his chipping. Like Frankie, like now that it's a thing, it's actually significantly harder than if it was just normal. You actually put,
Starting point is 00:41:44 but everybody's thinking about it. You're thinking everybody's like, people from fucking four fairways over. Like, oh, Frankie's got a 30-yard chip. Now that it's a thing, it's a thing, if that makes any sense. Yeah. Like, like originally I brought it up as a joke like three years ago.
Starting point is 00:41:58 I'm like, you know, I haven't been hitting my wedges very well. I feel like I have a butter knife in my hand. And now the longer and longer it goes, the more I'm, I believe in it like very much so now. It's just fact that it becomes a thing. So maybe Tony's just accepted the fact just like I have where it's just like, yeah, like this is what happens on Sundays. When I grab a wedge, it's like that's what happens to me. And when he gets up to the tea on Sunday, it's like, yeah, I have no chance. and you know the other thing that someone has no chance of or that has to keep doing it. Colby now
Starting point is 00:42:29 can't go a tournament without betting or putting anything on Tony Feena. It's just like when you do the lottery. If you're a person that for the mega millions of powerball and all your life, you've picked the same numbers, right? 8, 13, 24, whatever your birthday numbers are and shit. And you do that consistently, you have now signed a warrant. You've signed a contract basically with yourself saying that you have to do this every single time now because the one time you don't do it, you know, you know those numbers are coming out. And you know Tony Fienow is winning. And then where's the nearest bridge?
Starting point is 00:43:10 Like, you know, it's just like, get me in my car and it's over. Because you can't, like, I'm sorry. He cannot not ride Tony Fienow from here on now. It's been four years. He's got 34. whatever top 10 finishes, you have to keep riding with the guy. I don't care if it takes another 10 years, you have to. Well, and you know, the first week that he doesn't bet on him, he's going to win.
Starting point is 00:43:32 So, like, you have to bet and cover yourself for when that happens. But ultimately, and it's, it is tough because it's like he's doing great. It's very difficult to finish top five, top 10 in the PGA tour to do it weekend and week out. He's doing it. He's making a ton of money. Good for him. But it's got to be absolutely infuriating.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Tiro Hatton, which was mentioned earlier by Lurch, wins in Abu Dhabi. Fifth, he's fifth in the official world golf rankings. He is the fifth ranked player in the world. Now, he's won a decent amount on the European tour. He's clearly won some events on the PGA tour and the States as well. But that name being a top five name, like we did this a couple weeks ago. We went through who's not going to be in the top five? That is, who do you think is going to sneak in there at the end of the year?
Starting point is 00:44:18 Tyr Lhatton being top five in the world. feels like one of the most shocking names that there's no way that most people would guess that that man's top five. Also one of those names, you want to say Tyrell, you want to say those names like a million different ways. And it just doesn't feel right when you say TRL, even though I know you had a little thing with him, didn't you? Yeah, I said, this was probably three years ago, the waste management. I was doing a bunch of little quick hitter interviews. And I think I said, like, yeah, we're here with Tyrell Haddon. And he looked at me in the most disapprored. you dumb American bloke look of all time.
Starting point is 00:44:55 And, you know, he is, I think it was a little, yeah, a little sarcastic, but also, like he's playing it up. He likes to be a little awkward, almost like Seinfeld Larry David-esque. Like, he kind of likes that type of humor. But he immediately was like, what did you just say? And I was like, I said Tyrell. He's like, it's Tiro. And I wanted to be like, well, no, you're just like not pronounced.
Starting point is 00:45:20 the consonants correctly. You know, the fucking name. It's a tough road to go down. It's not Tyrol. That's preposterous. You're not a fucking figure in Game of Thrones. Like, what are you talking about? So, yeah, we had a little bit of a thing.
Starting point is 00:45:36 This is going to sound mean, but it's actually a compliment. He's not a, that's not a top five name. Like, when I think about Tyrall Haddon, I think about, I think he's very funny. I think he does have a dry sense of humor. You'll always, like, every couple of months, a close. clip will come out of hat and like being funny or hitting a bad shot and saying something funny. So for that guy to be in the top five, I actually feel like he's like a funny, a genuinely funny and interesting guy who just like got into the top 10 where he doesn't really belong.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Did you guys see that video that the European tour put out? I watched the whole thing. It was fucking hilarious. Yes. Like the anger management. Brian. Golfer, right? Tom, what?
Starting point is 00:46:15 It was an angry golfer. Yeah. It was like an anger management like, like, uh, like, uh, like an anger management like, uh, like an anonymous or whatever and it was so Tommy Fleetwood was incredible Ian Poulter was incredible whoever if you haven't watched this video yet go I think the European tour just is like one of the best content makers in fucking all of sports it's crazy I don't know who they got over there but they get their players to do amazing things like they actually get their players of their league and their tournaments to actually make funny entertaining stuff where like a company like us doesn't
Starting point is 00:46:48 enough to go in and like there's like there's not a market for us for the european league like they do it on their own for like pj tour and whatever and like an melb and nchel like that's why there's like the spitting tickets of the world because they're so like tight and they don't fucking get it like fucking european tour gets it man i fucking i want to have a beer with those blocs i want to i want to drop some words around them you know what i mean those guys are fucking funny it's a funny video stop what you're doing and go watch it if you haven't seen it Well, I feel like that's what, like, the takeaway was from the Rider Cup, or the President's Cup, rather, is, or like, after the Rider Cup, they felt like they were just, like, funny, good guys. And the Americans didn't come off that way at all, I felt like.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And so it seemed like anything with an accent, anything with an accent, it's always just better. Like, that video with a bunch of Americans is fucking stupid. Right. Like, Polter, I agree with you. Holter came off. when he just kept pulling out awesome pictures of himself, that was such a contrast to all the other anger. It was very, very funny.
Starting point is 00:47:55 So, yeah, they just do a good job. And you're absolutely right, Frankie. Whereas, like, if the golf media, the sports media landscape had been as on top of it 15 years ago and all the way through as the European tour is, like, Barstful sports wouldn't exist. Yeah, they just get it. Like, there's no, there's like no, like we just,
Starting point is 00:48:15 in America, like, everything has to be so fucking, like, you see it in comments. Like, what's the score? And, like, where are the stats? It's like, what, dude? Like, there's a fucking guy with his shirt off and his tits out at the baseball game. That's what we're talking about. That's what Barcelona Sports is here for. Not some fucking, I'm not talking about the guy who had two doubles and brought in an RBI.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Go read fucking ESPN. Like, that's what they don't get. And the European Tour gets that. They're like, oh, who, like, how can these guys get a whole in one with unlimited tries? let's go fucking make them stand on some fucking T-box and do it for the next seven hours. Like a professional athlete. Like we're going to force them to do this for this funny video. Like they actually get it.
Starting point is 00:48:54 It's a fucking joke that no one else gets it. I mean, American sports couldn't be and leagues couldn't be more opposite than the European tour. European tour is the funniest tour and professional sports league in the world. And maybe like the Premier League does the same thing. I don't know. I don't know anything about like European sports, but maybe they just have a better sense of humor than America. Right. Most American leagues all their social media reads like the newspaper. The Islanders do this like bring out the dancing lobsters thing and it's like
Starting point is 00:49:22 just take my phone and run over it with a fucking 18. Remember when the fucking blues did their little video on the plane with the office? Oh my God. That's the other thing too is it. Somebody said it was somebody who worked here I think a long time. That's like mom laughter. That's like if a mom finds that on Twitter. That is cute. Holy shit. That is cute and funny.
Starting point is 00:49:44 The European tour is looking for the younger people who like, some with a little bit of an edge, something that's got some thought put into it, and it's going to like make people laugh. That, yeah, the European tour there definitely. They were cursing in the video. Like a sanctioned actual video from their tour, they were cursing in it.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And they were putting bleeps, but like they were encouraging the guys to drop curse words in it, which is just like, that's the difference. Yeah. Someone on the European tour wrote in a curse word in the script to put in their video. And like, that's just such a difference. We can't even put in the word shit sometimes. in like in American fucking videos.
Starting point is 00:50:16 It's crazy. As one of the four hosts of this show who knows that my mom is listening, I will say that she would not have found that type of humor funny. So I'm going to give mom, I love you. I know you're out of listening. I didn't want to take a shot of the moms. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:50:32 no, no, your mom's going to come downstairs and bring you upstairs again. Oh, yeah. My mom will yell at me. She will call me and yell at me, being like, what are you talking about that podcast?
Starting point is 00:50:42 But you know what I'm talking about. Some of the content, these leagues put out are tailored towards like it's just getting laughs from people who just aren't on the internet it's safe it's just safe um i just wanted to defend a few of the moms i bet you're right it's a little bit mom did you guys realize in that video by the way the fucking one empty seat was john rom that made me laugh so far so that's so good little details like that that's so good they were like all right thanks to everyone for making it and then they paned to the cat the one MTC, it's just John Rons written on it.
Starting point is 00:51:16 It's just so fucking funny. So funny. That's literally office level of humor funny. Yeah. That is. Dude, I honestly think they brought in the people who like did the British version of the office. Like I feel like they brought in what's his name to write that script. It was so funny.
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Starting point is 00:54:47 LPGA Tour, the Diamond Resorts, they also had a phenomenal finish with some huge names. The Cora sisters were very much in the mix to the point where Jessica Cora in a playoff got her sixth LPGA tour victory over the People's Women's Golfer, Danielle Kang, who's been on this show many times. Kang, every last six, eight months, have been playing fantastic golf. She won back to back about, well, late second half of the first half. of last year going into kind of the U.S. Open stretch where they played in December. She won a couple tournaments in a row and playing great golf. Had a phenomenal week. Jessica Corder coming in with a diabolical finish on the first playoff hole makes an absolute
Starting point is 00:55:27 bomb for Bertie to get the W and get the win. So anytime you've got some of those bigger names and some of the girls that we know that we've had in the show like Danielle Kang in the mix, it's very, very much worth noting. We've fouled a lot of Lady Golf on here. We've had Daniel Kang on, what, five times now, Trent, that we've had her on this show. Three, at least, yeah. Three, five times, whatever the hell it's been.
Starting point is 00:55:51 So good to see here continuing to play well, going into the year. And the chorus sisters, they just bring it. They've got some star power. The two have been playing together, having been together in, like, Solheim Cup, telling, you know, I think it was Nellie that was saying, you know, if I could take any part of my game for my sister, it would be her putting. She's like anything inside of, like,
Starting point is 00:56:10 10 feet in the sole income. She was just automatic. Of course, she goes and makes a bomb to win in a playoff. So LPGA off to kind of a hot start. And Jessica Cordo, who's got a good story of being a star, but she was going through some trouble. She ended up having like total like jaw surgery to kind of like fix her migraines and a lot that was going on there. And it's come back out now. And I think this is her first win in almost like three years or something like that. maybe since somebody's 2017 or somewhere around there. So anyway, it was a very, very good finish, some big names down the stretch. And so, man, we've got, we had an incredible finish on the PGA tour,
Starting point is 00:56:50 incredible finish on the LPGA tour, and Tirol Hat and Rory McAar are going at it on the European tour plus the European tour putting out the video. So there's just a million different fucking tours. It's kind of like what you get at this time of year with a lot of different hot action. Rory, like Lurge was saying earlier, came out and started. year with a 64, I believe, in the first round. And Rory's weird, man, where, yeah, it feels like sometimes you can't close. Then other times it feels like in majors, like you can't play on Thursday. Like on Thursdays, he just, he just comes out of the gate and chokes and then tries to,
Starting point is 00:57:22 and always does backdoor top 10, right? That's like the Rory cliche is the backdoor top 10. Yet he came out. And, you know, I think overall, like Rory said, this is as good as he's ever felt going into a new season. So for Rory to come out, fire that six, have a good finish. I think he ended up finish in solo third. Good signs for Rory going forward. What a major. I think he's going to win a major as well. Quick fact on the Cordes Sisters.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Is that how you pronounce her name? Mm-hmm. Their brother, this kid Seby, is one of the bright American tennis stars. Really? I don't know if you knew that. But yeah. I saw Nellie like Instagramming about him a couple weeks ago. Nelly, oh, one of the sisters.
Starting point is 00:58:08 For whatever reason, my mind went to the singer. I was like, what? Brush your shoulders off of everything. You're a written word guy. I think you're just more of a written word guy. Who me? Yeah, I think pronunciation and just like when I say names, if I would have written that word out, Nellie,
Starting point is 00:58:27 you would have been like, yeah, Nellie Korda. But when I say it, the pronunciation to written word, I think there's a disconnect in your brain. No, I think Nellie is a single, Like the Nelly, the singer, is one of the few single-named referred to people out there. Like when you say-Nell- We're talking about the court system. Tiger. Right, I know.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I kind of, that's my fault. And I'm taking the blame on that one. Elvis. But anyways, if she did, I know, I think, um, Prince, who's one of the other tennis stars. Say, Cher. Share. Trying to go through all the, uh, one-name people in the world. Yeah, like Kobe, Shaq, those individuals.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yep. Uh, share for sure. L.A. Michael. Lebron. LeBron. is Wayne no
Starting point is 00:59:10 if you just say Wayne there's literally no way Wayne is it me I mean Gretzky obviously but that's just his name like how does that work where it's just like your last name I don't think you get to pick that
Starting point is 00:59:23 I think what we were talking about was all first names right right yeah or like nicknames even Wayne for sure or not you just go up and something like you see Wayne the other day they're like who the fuck are you like Wayne
Starting point is 00:59:35 could be like your dad's friend. Wayne could be your mailman. Like, did you see Wayne? All right, all right, all right. I guess that's his last name. Leo, I don't know, no, because there's Leo. There's Leo Messi. Oh, I mean, we're definitely missing.
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah, rising tennis. J-Lo. Well, that's just her nickname. No, it's just that. People are driving around right now, rattling off dozens that we have. Oh, my God. There's got to be one like, like,
Starting point is 01:00:01 like Madonna is just her name. How do these idiots? not know this name. Anyways, you should have gotten, you should have known Nellie was not. Right. And I'm talking about the rapper. My point to that is I think there was this,
Starting point is 01:00:19 another tennis star, this kid Fritz, or his last name is, he was talking about them. And then I looked into it. I was like, oh, shit. That's a good athletic family.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Didn't their parents, too? I think their parents were like tennis. Tennis players? Um, it could be. I don't know. I didn't look into that far, but,
Starting point is 01:00:37 I mean, there's got to be some athletic genes in that family. I'd like to get into tennis. I like tennis. You got into it last summer, didn't you? Yeah, I think it tore my labrums. And it's just fun. It's a great workout.
Starting point is 01:00:48 But it's tough because you can't, it's not like golf or there's any way to handicap it. Like if someone's better than you, a little bit better, they just win every time. Yeah. Right. Yeah, Riggs, it looks like the court of parents were world-class tennis players. The dad won the Australian Open in 1998. She is on the 25th ranked women's tennis player at one point. I mean, the dog is fucking major.
Starting point is 01:01:11 That house is just different than our line. Just different. My dad's out here making fucking pizzas, and it's just their fucking, like if they drop like a fucking glass, they're sliding like they do on the tennis fucking court, and they're catching it, and they're fucking on their toes all day long.
Starting point is 01:01:29 You wake up, you better be alert. Bananas are flying all over the place. That house is crazy. It is always interesting when. You get a grinole bar? Boom. It's like,
Starting point is 01:01:38 It's fucking like, it's crazy that house. It is always interesting when athletic parents actually do end up having super athletic kids. Like, I know that doesn't, like it should be surprising the other way. But I feel like it doesn't work out as much as it should. But when it works out, it's really pretty incredible. Well, it's like when two beautiful people have another, like, beautiful baby. It's like, come on. Like usually at some point, usually it's like the opposite.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Like two just fucking grotesque humans pop out. just the hottest person in the world. But like it's just sometimes people just have the right things, man. Like families just have it going for them. Like that family has it going. Everyone knows that family too on like a lesser scale. Like I have a family like that. We have a family like that with our family.
Starting point is 01:02:25 And they're just everyone's perfect. Picture perfect family. Money. There was always the cross hockey. Yeah. Bucknell. Ever heard of it? Cornel?
Starting point is 01:02:36 All these places. It's just like, fuck you, dude. I'm going to East Metal High School. I don't know. Oh, Peter is doing this. High school where it's like, oh, there's another one. Oh, there's another one. Oh, he's a basketball player.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Oh, he's a track star. Oh, she's a soccer star. Fucking. Me and my family were just like, we're a bunch of fucking losers. Prom king, prom queen, fucking valedictorian, the whole thing. They'll probably all end up in jail or something. Who knows? You never know.
Starting point is 01:03:02 The story's not written yet. Yeah. Other news I got listed in my headlines. Brooks Kepka, funny little run here for Brooks Kepka. So Brooks Kepka last week and his little presser, or just a little interview was asked about what would be a successful week. Kepka, of course, you know, a year and a half ago had a stretch where he won like four majors and eight starts and he started to throw, you know, chirps left and right.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He'd going after Bryson. He went after DJ the PGA last year. And he's Brooks Kepka. We've all get that. We know that. He trolls a little bit. Great. Well, Kisner was.
Starting point is 01:03:38 coming a week off of him being asked, you know, you can't you? And kids said, probably not. He said, why even show up? He said, well, 20th pays pretty damn well out here. Well, then Brooks Kepka last week was asked what would be a successful week. He said, to win. I'm not here to finish T20, though I've heard that pays pretty well. Brooks Kepka went on to miss the cut and has since split with his longtime coach, Claude Harmon, the third. So I'm not trying to say that the karma is a thing. I'm not a religious fellow or spiritual fellow,
Starting point is 01:04:10 but just I figured I could alert the audience to those facts and you can make up your own decisions. The missed cut and the splitting with the coach aside, that's a funny comment from Brooks Kepka. That's a very, because I at the time, I bet him and Kiz are buddies. And I remember at the time when Kiz said that, and I said that Tiger has spawned a generation
Starting point is 01:04:31 that everyone says, I want to win. That's like Brooks poking at both things. And I saw one of the top comments on either Twitter, Instagram on that was like, I bet the person that got the biggest belly laugh out of this comment is Kevin Kisner. So it's like, you know, I didn't take that as malicious either. But I just thought that that was funny when, and Brooks has got a little bit of egg on the face. Yeah, I mean, he's Brooks fucking Kepka. So how much egg on the face could he possibly have?
Starting point is 01:04:58 Like, good looking dude, he's got the greatest life in the world. He's down in Florida on the wall. He's smashing eggs on people's fucking heads. And he's a guy. who probably can win anywhere. Yes. Oh, he totally can win at any, literally any golf course in the world. Right. So in terms of like egg in the face,
Starting point is 01:05:14 it's all relative and it's all kind of a joke. But he did, like I said, had that, the comment about DJ where like, well, actually this guy ahead of me at the PJs only got one major, so I'm not too concerned. And then he had like the worst final round of anybody that was in contention. And now you get this same kind of thing where he's like,
Starting point is 01:05:30 I'm not here to finish T20. And it's like, actually kids finished T-37 last week, but he made more money than you because you missed the cut. So you could like split it anyway. I don't think it was that malicious, but just a couple updates on Brooks Kept. I respect a guy who keeps shooting because after the DJ thing,
Starting point is 01:05:45 he could have never said anything ever again because he was like embarrassed. But then he comes right back to next season. And it's like he comes at Kevin Kisner with the T20 trip. I think it's all. Yeah, I don't think it was malicious at all. No, I think it was good fun. And like I think it's great. I like reward it and think it's like to Frankie's point or when we're talking about,
Starting point is 01:06:04 but, you know, anybody from like, you know, Europe and those guys and how funny that commercial was, I think, like, we need more, like, this little funny banter is excellent. Like, I think that's all good. Kisner, I doubt, takes any kind of ill will towards that, and it's just kind of good, like, lighthearted, joky nature. And I think the joke, like, for the people that don't get the joke in the room, it's like the media who play that up to being something way more than it is. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Need the banter. Right. They miced up someone the other day Like it's also amazing Like the Bruins do this thing where they like show once a week Like behind the bee or something like that And they'll just put in like on ice Like just like banter
Starting point is 01:06:46 And it's the fucking it's the best content that comes out Of like American sports all week And like the other day like one of the guys Was just fucking giving it to I think Sue Banner someone It's like I'm in your fucking kitchen I'm in your kitchen 7, 6 Like going crazy Finally he's like getting him to punch him in the face
Starting point is 01:07:02 And it takes two minutes It's just so so funny but like if the media saw that like to your point where it's like oh suban and whoever this was like connect me i don't like each other's like no they don't they actually just are like going after each other on the ice just like like brooks probably wants to see kids out there and like say something on the golf course just to get a little laugh out of them or get under skin like they're fucking competitors or athletes like let's go it's as long as it's all like in good faith and good fun who cares that's not to go on this at all but that's just
Starting point is 01:07:31 where Bryson does not get it. No, you smash egg on his face. He's licking the fucking yoke. He like, if Brooks had said something like that, something Bryson said, and he has in the past on multiple occasions, Bryson goes into a rage and tries to hit a ball 250, like 250 miles per hour. Like he's, that's like, kids and Brooks are two guys who get it. Bryson is like, what?
Starting point is 01:07:55 Dude, whenever, whenever Bryson's up with anything like that, inside his brain someone like jumps and hits the fucking buzzer like no and they fucking go crazy in his brain like let's go right it's fight time he gets it 0% he starts blank it a million times he's like well i i i just don't like it's just like no dude it's a joke it's a joke it's a joke it's a joke it's a that is he does need a guy like that he needs somebody who sits next to him and frankie did it pretty good there where if anything so anybody says anything like that he's a joke it's a joke it's a joke It's a joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke, joke. Well, well, but what he just doesn't physically, he doesn't physically and mentally understand where I'm coming from.
Starting point is 01:08:35 It's like, well, it doesn't fucking matter, Bryson. It doesn't matter. It's like a hold me back coach on the side by. Dude, his videos, Bryson, of him hitting these balls. I hate the Bryson that I just explained, but I fucking love the Bryson that I see on Instagram, hitting these fucking moon balls in this, whatever, wherever contraption he is at Cuomo's house. he he is swinging so hard that it's it's unfathomable what we're watching there's a couple of them that he's just like and he's fucking i can't imagine how much torque is going into that ball it's numbers are off the charts it's it's so different from anything that golf has ever been about that watching him do it there's a certain satisfaction of, you know it's driving people crazy. You know the traditionalist, the purists, the purists, old man golf media.
Starting point is 01:09:35 It drives them fucking nuts. That someone is training like a world-class weightlifter, that they're huffing and puffing like a fucking reindeer before they're about to take off, trying to get that energy up, trying to get that mojo up and swinging as hard as he is. It is so different and contradictory to, you know, finesse and rhythms. and all this bullshit that's talked about in your golf swing. And here is this just psychopath who's put on 80 pounds of weight is swinging as hard as he possibly can.
Starting point is 01:10:06 He's literally coming out of his shoes, spinning around like in a circle and swinging as hard as he can. It's so contradictory to all that other stuff that you can't help but love it, even if you think Bryson's personality and the way he interacts with the media and the fans is so far off. You're right, Frankie. You're like, you just can't help but sort of,
Starting point is 01:10:26 laugh at it and love it a little bit. Dude, it's amazing. I just hope that there are cameras rolling where he is. Like, I hope that there's somebody in there documenting this. And I hope, and if there's not, let us come in there and bring cameras. Because this is something the world needs to see. And it can't, it has to be an outside source because if we let Bryson do it, it's going to come off like his preparing for the upcoming 2020 PJ tour video,
Starting point is 01:10:55 which was the weirdest video. put on the internet. So I think cameras are all, wherever Bryson is during all of this. Dude, speaking of swinging hard, and we're going to have, I'm going to have to put this on for play social. I'm going to have to set this to Jake. And he, I got to get my buddy, my buddy's friend to get him to agree to put like the content, like consent or whatever. There's a video from 2016 that's floated around my friend group, like, of this kid's dad. And I was just reminded of it yesterday. And if I could just play the audio of this dude, he's like out at like a fucking golf outing.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And he's like swinging a golf club for what feels like, it looks like the first time ever, but also like you could tell the guys of this group are trying to give him a fucking a lesson. And he swings as hard as he can. Just listen to the squeak that happens in it. Listen to the squeak that happens on this first swing. Stay down.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Head down, swing easy. And he hits at three feet. You guys are listening to this audio right now. Go to our foreplay wherever it's going to be. you are going to fall in love with this video because it's what it's it's it's what people are going to try and do when they watch bryson de chambot it's just like let's swing as hard as we can and we're not going to be able to do it he's going to change the game forever bryson and we're going to see a lot of stuff like this which i love it's high comedy no one can replicate what bryson does and that's never going to change he's going to be the only person in the world that can do this because he's the only psychopath that's willing to do it and let's just accept it for what it is and ride this thing because it's fucking hilarious he He is, he's just always going to be tough to figure out. And like we said, where personality-wise, sometimes he seems really nice and great and friendly and gets it. Other times he seems way off, but his game and his antics are ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:12:47 So he still must watch and he pretty much always will be in the world of golf. Okay. Next up, we've got Pat Perez. We, again, we talked a lot about the four-man scramble. We've had him on the show a handful of times, one of our boys, one of our closest guys on the PGA tour. and damn, can he play golf? So we're going to talk a little bit about the match, about what he saw out of our games
Starting point is 01:13:09 and just generally what that entire day was like, where we played golf with him for the first time, and then we went back to his house. His wife made dinner for us, and we all hung out all night long. So we'll get into that. We'll talk a little golf. We'll talk a little four-man scramble with Pat Perez.
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Starting point is 01:14:37 Justin Thomas, Roy McElroy, they were very, very early on whoop and have been sort of big-time spokesman for all of the good that it can do and that it can monitor. And we've got our own chat or our own, I guess, group as well on whoop, where you wake up, you look, see how much sleep recovery we got. So there's a cool community aspect to it. They're also going to be in the future in terms of like, whoop live, they're going to be putting out all kinds of content with golfers heart rate in real time, which is something that we talked about.
Starting point is 01:15:08 God, I think it might have been back when Trent and I were just doing the show alone for all I fucking remember was years ago. But how fascinating it would be putting and knowing real time heart rate information on people while they're trying to hit golf because all you hear for decades, we heard Johnny Miller, nerves, nerves, nerves, nerves, nerves, well, guess what? you can just fucking see it on whoop in real time. So they got a lot of content coming out from there. So whoop.com, use the code forwardplay, one word,
Starting point is 01:15:37 to check out. You get yourself 15% off. We love the whoop train. All right, folks. We're joined for God knows. The eighth, maybe 10th time, who knows, by one of our favorites, one of our boys, Mr. Pat Perez. We have a video coming out tonight on the Ford Play YouTube channel with Pat Perez,
Starting point is 01:15:55 live from Tori. area San Diego where it sounds like it's kind of a shit show right now. It is today. Tomorrow is supposed to be all right, but there's another storm coming in, I think, on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, so that could suck. Well, who all you're with? Who all is up at the crib tonight? We got Jason Smoke Wreck.
Starting point is 01:16:17 What's up? Coates. How are we doing? Beckle. And we said prior to the show that, you know, that we have to make this a common occurrence because every time we have Pat Perez and Jason Coke, is on the side eating Doritos, he wins a month later.
Starting point is 01:16:34 This doesn't keep itself. He wins a month later, so it's a pretty good little recipe for success. A Dorito, month later, fucking PGA Tour win. There's red wine last time, too. Pat was complaining that Dal jason doesn't fill up his glass. Always got the red wine.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Pat matches his wine to his Jordan fucking cutoff. You have to. It's too hot here. Damn it. It's a thousand degrees. It's 20 outside, but hot in here. You guys have nice setups there, huh? What was that in Airbnb?
Starting point is 01:17:03 Look at that. We run a house over here. Not bad. Pretty cool. The view is unbelievable outside. You guys on the wall? We're right in La Jolla. I mean, it is unbelievable outside.
Starting point is 01:17:16 California and Jersey and fucking Long Island. We're wearing a knitted hat inside. That's how you know that we're just going through it right now. No, we set the mood. We got the fireplace. Some of them might get lucky later. We don't know. Life ain't bad, man.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Pat, how's your game feel right now? Because when we saw you like a month and a half ago, and we talked about a lot on the show, but you were just wildly impressive to us in every way that a person could be impressive. You were drinking your dick off, you're laughing, yet you would step up, not even tee it up, and then just roast ball after ball.
Starting point is 01:17:55 you shot like 66 with a vicious lip out on 18. So we were wildly impressed with your game. How's your game to you feel right now? It's common. Drew and I put a lot of work into it the last, you know, really a month and a half. And just trying to get rid all these bad habits I've gotten into over the last five or six years.
Starting point is 01:18:14 And it's just, you know, it's repetition. The more you do it under the gun, you know, with shit out there, water, OB, all these things you, you know, you don't want to hit into. but eventually you got to trust it and you got to start doing it. And, you know, last week I hit one out of balance and I hit Mr. Green and I made an eight on a part five. Essentially it took me out of the cut and, you know, it's just, it's getting rid of bad
Starting point is 01:18:39 habits, but you can't really get rid of them until you trust it on the gun. So, you know, I hit a lot of, I hit more good shots now than I've hit ever. But unfortunately, when I hit a bad one, it's always like the right time or the wrong time. So that and the fact the fucking cut is 4-under every week is something else to be. I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, every week's 400, no matter what the hell you are. It's incredible. But my game's good.
Starting point is 01:19:05 You know, when the game's good, I feel like, you know, it's just a matter of time for it all pieces together. Are our producers texting us to ask you to turn the TV down if you can? Because the volume's coming in. What's the bone? I got the bone. And on this show, which Lurch hasn't realized, we kind of just air things out live on the show. Oh, yeah, that sounds crisp.
Starting point is 01:19:29 There we go. Sorry. No, you're all good. You don't want the pumped-in noise from the basketball game. Come on. Yeah, that's what I want to know is what they actually say in the basketball games to each other instead of what you guys hear with us on the golf course. How do you, hey, how do you guys feel about the mic'd up stuff?
Starting point is 01:19:51 Obviously, that's been controversial. lately. You get a lot more of it with basketball, with football, with no crowds. How do you guys do about the mic? I would love to hear what's really on that court. I got a text from Brett Hull actually about 20 minutes ago and said, why don't you talk to your union or whatever your people and say, turn the damn mics down or do a seven second delay. He goes, if they heard the shit, I said on the ice, I would be in prison. You know, but it is. Hockey. football, basketball, no microphones.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And we know what the language is. We know what's going on down there. But they don't do them. For some reason, golf, because it's such a gentleman's game, you know, nobody can say anything bad. And it's, you know, I'm not defending anything that Justin Thomas said. But, man, it's incredible. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:20:45 The fact that they went back and when they did the replay, they actually turned the mic up to do the replay. right so i don't know who really heard it in the first place i'm not saying it's right don't give it wrong i'm not defending it at all but the fact to go back and replay it and turn up the mics and then wear them out about the whole thing that's like you know that's that's kind of what happens over here our deal if you had if you had basketball football hockey baseball any of those other sports with microphones down there it had to be on pay-per-view right you know what i mean yeah the NFL The NFL was on Nickelodeon recently.
Starting point is 01:21:21 They tried that out two weeks ago during like wildcard weekend. And like someone like scored a touchdown and just was like, suck my fucking dick. Like on Nickelodeon. Everyone's like, whoa. Like someone's cursing? You guys say those words? Like dude, it's fucking.
Starting point is 01:21:39 You guys talk like that? The Saints versus whoever. Like yeah, that guy's fucking going crazy in the end of it. I was getting ready to put Nick Jr. on for my daughter. And I saw the game was right above that town. I'm like, what the hell is the football game doing on that show? And people were like, I can't believe there's cursing on Nickelodeon. It's like, don't put a football game on Nickelodeon.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And don't put a microphone around any sport that is very competitive. Because you're going to hear something, you may not want to hear. I almost say it. Yeah. And look, like we, one of my favorite lines from the whole thing was from one of our boys that we love. Amon Lynch, who writes for Golf Week, who is openly like homosexual in the golf world. And he said, he's like, if all of us were judged by what we've said in frustration after a bad golf shot, none of us would be how we wouldn't have jobs, we wouldn't have lives, we all be in prison.
Starting point is 01:22:27 So like on some level, like you're saying, it's a little bit of a catch 22 where it's like if you want people to have more entertainment, you want people to be miced up, you want to hear what's going on, then you also have to deal with the fact that we're all human. People are going to say shit. And that's the nature of competition. yeah you know and and that is true but when you throw out nothing great I didn't think they're blowing in the pool Are you guys under attack?
Starting point is 01:22:57 We got a hurricane bro I mean the window the window is doing it's moving this far like I think the barbecue fell in the damn pool you know and the thing is about it is yeah you know people some people can do it but when you throw out slurs of certain sorts you know that's when it gets over the line of just saying like fuck or, you know, that's about whatever.
Starting point is 01:23:21 But when he throws something like that out, that's when it's like, okay, well, that's not really cussing. That's, that's a stronger type of, you know,
Starting point is 01:23:30 language that obviously, in this day and age, it plays no part in anything. You know, and I was reading something about that, that Ralph Lauren, when they said, they're the,
Starting point is 01:23:40 they're the high, apparently it's the best company to work for, for the, LGBTQ type of community person. It's a greatest place to work for it because they're so accommodating to it. So, I mean, they didn't have a choice. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Rothman did not have a choice. And I'm surprised as shit that Citibank stuck in there, but it was a little surprising. Yeah, I agree. And again, we've sort of exhausted it a lot. And you don't want to come off on the side of like defending JT necessarily because he knows, we know, everybody knows, like what he used,
Starting point is 01:24:19 the slur that he used, is an unacceptable word to use. So that shouldn't be in your vocabulary, the fact that it is is alarming, and everyone agrees with that. But also you can be, you know, like, it's weird in today's world with social media with Twitter,
Starting point is 01:24:35 you can try to understand everything from multiple sides and why one side has a thought, the other side has another thought. And the point is, like, we all believe people deserve to be recognized as human, to be recognized the people that make fucking mistakes as people that deserve
Starting point is 01:24:50 second chances. So, you know, in one degree, it's like, yeah, dude, you can't say that. On another, it's like, but you also shouldn't necessarily be canceled or dropped because in a moment of frustration on a golf course, when we've all been our absolute worst,
Starting point is 01:25:07 you said something. So it's just interesting to hear from you guys who were actually in the heat of competition. Well, I can tell you right now. I can tell you right now, and you don't agree with me when I tell you this. If that's me, you wouldn't see me the rest of the year. I'd be suspended for who knows how long, dropped by everybody. The two are making an absolute example out of me in that kind of deal.
Starting point is 01:25:31 So that's just the way it is. Me being with my status and Justin being with his status, you know, it's just the way it is. And I know that, but, you know, unfortunately, they would make hell more example out of me on that deal. Right, which sometimes is like opposite, right? Because sometimes you want to make an example of the person that's like, quote, unquote, a better status or whatever you're going to consider him or like a higher status being a higher ranked player. No, he is. It's without question. I mean, the top guys have a lot of pull, I would say, you know, they run our tour.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Yeah. And that's fine. But the problem is the tour sometimes makes a bad example. They make an example out of guys that don't have a certain status. Right. Pat, let's talk a little bit about the scramble. God, I'm still pissed about that. It's interesting because, you know, look, you are very even keel out there,
Starting point is 01:26:25 and you even were in the entire match, you know, pretty much until 18. And even then you handled it exceptionally well. Like the way we talked about it all night because we did, we had an all-time night going to your house, your wife cooked dinner. You welcomed us. You gave us drinks. And I even tried to bring it up as like, I want to try to get a rise out of pat a little bit. Like, yeah, what were you thinking on 18?
Starting point is 01:26:47 You know, and you're like, well, that's just going to happen. Like, I hit a good punt didn't go in. But, but you guys were just too good and you had such a good mindset about it. But, you know, you're a competitive fuck, right? Like, you're a competitive savage. And once you're in that arena, even though you're playing against us four knuckleheads, like, what was kind of your general thought on, like, did you feel like you should have won throughout the day? Were you like, I should be able to beat these guys?
Starting point is 01:27:13 No. And the thing is, there's multiple things. The course wasn't hard enough to actually, to where if it was longer and harder, I think I would have had a chance. Yeah. But, you know, I hit one in the desert and, you know, I made a bunch of puts. But I actually didn't go in there thinking I could beat you guys anyway. So I was going to have fun.
Starting point is 01:27:33 I was going to drink. We were going to talk shit. We were going to have fun. But then when we started getting, you know, we started staying even longer and longer and longer. Once we got towards the end, I'm like, fuck, I got to beat these guys. I actually have a chance to beat these guys. And with all you fucking guys hit in the desert on 18, and then here comes the fucking big man. It hits it three feet.
Starting point is 01:27:52 I'm like, that's not supposed to happen. That's impossible to happen. Into the sun. Into the sun. If he hits in the shit over there, it's over. It's over. I got a sandwich in my hand. I get anywhere on the grass and I win.
Starting point is 01:28:06 I'm like, so, and then the lip out, that was that you talk with insults injury. it was it was a fucking awesome day i had a blast i didn't think i was going to win i didn't think i didn't think i was even going to get past like the 15th hole because the course was easy and this and that but once we did and i still had like a chance to tie the match on 18 and when it when it lit down like i actually got i actually got heated for you know about 30 seconds that's why i walked away because i don't want to say anything that i didn't want to say but uh you know hey it was fun as shit i was glad just to take you down the wire but uh yeah i did want to win as you guys wanted to win everybody wants to win
Starting point is 01:28:50 but you just didn't happen you wash it down with that with that delicious fucking tequila you had at your house what the hell was that brand what tequila was that it's a coral we got a ball there's george george tequila holy smokes i mean never tastes like candy that's like candy i drank a bottle last night it's so easy to drink it was I mean, your setup at your house is, is, is, it's, you're talking about adding insult to injury for us, like, seeing the life that you guys live out and say, and, uh, in Scottsdale and then like, seeing that house you have was just like, what are we doing with our lives? Like, that's just outrageous view. The basketball court. I mean, it was just a really, really fun day. And I think it's all going to show pretty well on video tonight on YouTube when people will see just like how personable you are on the course. Like, you really don't, you like didn't take it. You like didn't take it. anything like to heart but like you also like I explained it before you came on here like you did at one point like try and win like I saw it in your eyes like it was late though it was real late yeah but like you were like you you're able to dial it in pretty fucking quick I saw it in you
Starting point is 01:29:54 like you're standing over balls you're like reading greens you walked up there with your towel you were like fucking taking sand away so I had to do something to myself so I mean I think it's gonna be a really cool way for people to see your game because like you can fucking turn it on like that man like that It was fun. I had a blast. I really did. I had fun. Yes, of course I wanted to win, but, you know. I thought, like, early on the first team, you were like, there's no way I can beat these guys. Everybody kind of roped them out there.
Starting point is 01:30:23 But then, I forget, it might have been the third hole that you sunk a bomb, like a bender from. Yeah, the one up to go right. It was incredible. I mean, I put it good that day. I put a good. I had to catch him. Yeah, no. But I had to put a punt great. I was never going to be in the match, ever. You know, your ball hits that fucking rock, comes back in the desert.
Starting point is 01:30:43 You know, comes back in the grass. You hit it up there. I'm like, those are game changers. Between that hole and the last haul, I win by one. I mean, that's just the way it is. That ball is the desert. You're dropping. There's a five minimum.
Starting point is 01:30:57 18, if you just hit it like the other guys did, the ball's gone. I win. That's why you got four. You got to think about our mental space during that match too, right? So like Trent goes, right? He goes out of bounds. I go and I drive one out of bounds. Now of a sudden, it's no longer a scramble.
Starting point is 01:31:14 It's just rigs and lurch now are facing Pat Perez on the team. Monoie, mono. And then like, Riggs goes like a little bit in the rough. We're like, ah, shit. Now it's just like lurch verse, whatever, or the other way around. And it's, so each hole becomes like one verse one, two verse one, one verse one. It's really never 4V1. But I never really got like an advantage.
Starting point is 01:31:37 And I'm telling you right now, the shot on 18. The second shot on 18, the iron, is probably one of the most clutch shots you'll see in life. Because with three guys in their fucking pocket scratching their fucking balls, and the last guy's got to hit a shot, it has to count. It's got to be on grass. At least make four at worst. And you hit it like this. He almost jaded.
Starting point is 01:32:01 That pissed me off. I looked at the fucking range from. I'm like, God damn, that things like three feet. Yeah, that pissed me off. But it was, yeah, it was fun. You hit that shot. You got to keep up with you guys. Lurch hit that shot prior to Pat, right?
Starting point is 01:32:17 Like, you hit that shot. Yeah, you got your 5-100 and I had sandwich. I mean, you guys were 60 yards back there. I mean, to a tucked right pin and you guys fucking hit it three feet. I know all four you aren't going to miss that. So now I got pressure to hit it, you know, like that to at least tie and the lip out. I really could double that the lip-out. I mean, I really cut them.
Starting point is 01:32:38 I mean, just missed the hole, you know, or just make it. I mean, one or the two, either make it or just miss the hole. The lip out really didn't have. This is why I love you guys. Like, this is why I love you guys. Because it's like in the moment, you know, like you walked away for a second, but you came bag, you shook our hands. We all had a great night.
Starting point is 01:32:55 We drank that crazy fucking tequila that you drink. But now we start getting into it and you're ripping your hat off. You're like, I could have really fucking done without you guys. That's what I love about you guys. Like that's genuine competitive instinct right there. We've got to have a rematch at some point this year. You know, we'll get it at Soberleaf. Because now that I know, like, what part takes in it, we'll do it in Soberleaf.
Starting point is 01:33:20 And we'll go out there and have a fucking blast out there doing it. 100%. We weren't too slow either. We actually kind of booked it out there for. Oh, we flew around there. I thought you guys said it was going to take a lot longer. That's why it was like a hard spill. I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:33:33 We haven't gotten used to it yet. Now we have. credit to Jake to Brendan to our freelancers. Like we've had like, dude, this was like the fifth one that we did. And the first couple, there were like nightmare moments where Jake would call like an emergency meeting with the production crew. And then Frankie and myself would be like, what are we doing? And then I would just remove myself from the situation and hope to God that it worked out.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Dude, the one we did against the- By the time we got to the fifth one, it was smooth, dude. The one we did against the country music stars was like a nine hour round. I mean, fucking Daris Rucker just went home. The 4V4 takes forever. The 4V4 is like not a real solution. It takes a full calendar day. The 401 is fun because, you know, you guys actually,
Starting point is 01:34:17 you guys actually made some pusso. Once you make and then I go, I'm fast, obviously. So, you know, then we're gone. We go the next hole. But they set it up. They did a great job. They did a great job. You guys will get this to where you can do it
Starting point is 01:34:29 and it will take you no more than four hours do the whole thing. Well, the ultimate goal, Pat, is that we somehow get one, spot on a PGA tour event. Like, just give us one spot and see how we do. Do we make a cut? What did you guys shoot that day? What do you think? One better than you, man. One better than you.
Starting point is 01:34:49 No, I don't know. Well, but 60, so 65? Yeah, something like that, probably, yeah. Well, if you shoot 65, you say, yeah, you're going to fucking win. Right. Depending on the course, you know, but also depends on the course.
Starting point is 01:35:03 We play tour. We're easy. You put us in Tori this week. If I put you guys in Tori this week, you're not making the cut. No way. I think we make the cut. Yeah. You're not making the cut.
Starting point is 01:35:16 I hate to tell you that. You're not making the cut. This fucking place is so hard. It's 7,700 yards, which is your disadvantage because you don't hit it long enough. That's the thing. You may hit it straight. Yeah. it's going to be a hard up and doubt.
Starting point is 01:35:37 I mean, you can't play for it. It's not, it would be, it would be, it would be, it would be difficult for you guys to make the cut here. I promise you.
Starting point is 01:35:45 This is the only one back. You get guys like, you know, you get courts like Hilton Head or, and or, I don't know. It'd be actually funny to see you guys. Hilton had,
Starting point is 01:35:55 so if you had to pick, so if you had to pick two of you to play the Zurich, the two men, who would be the two-man team? If you only got two. Lurch and rigs. So do you think guys would make the cut in that two-man thing?
Starting point is 01:36:08 What? No. No way. No. You're right. I mean, you can't split up the team. We're a four-man show. So if Tori wants us to have us out,
Starting point is 01:36:19 all four of us go, and I think we make the cut. I think this group, we played Pinehurst number two from the back, and we shot, what, one or two under? What did we shoot at Pinehurst number two? We shot like 69, probably,
Starting point is 01:36:32 68, 69. But like, we always, It's a round-shund even money. I'm going to give you it to round even money. I think you guys are a little bit of a... I think you might be a plus. I think you might be a plus. Dude, he is right, though.
Starting point is 01:36:45 You start spraying in on really long golf courses and we're hitting 2-10, 220 into a green from the round. The problem is if you get to a hole like 12, let's say fucking 12, right? And you've got 10, 12-mile-d-hour into you. If none of you hit the fairway, you're going to have
Starting point is 01:37:01 $1.35 left for your third shot. Right. So more likely it's a five. Okay. The next toll is 641 yards. If you guys all miss the fairway there, now you're dead because you've got probably $490 left for your second shot. Now you're going to try to get to play.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Your third shot on a part five is going to be like 220 left. Yeah, but Pat, we got the SIM two now. Like, we're not missing back in there. It's fire. It's so fire. I know he. I know he. I was in a good day.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I know Pat can't talk about it, but that, we can talk about it. The Sim 2 changes everything. It's awesome. Yeah, I just got, I got Coke, I kind of one dialed up today. I think he's going to hit it 25 than he does, which is fucking scary. It's a weapon, man. It should be illegal. Well, it's strong.
Starting point is 01:37:56 It's definitely strong. It would be fun to see you guys in a, to see if you guys could make the cut. I would really be interested to see because I come out and watch it. exact amount watch just to see the stress because you're talking about now and you're not talking about beating me you're talking about trying to make the cut yeah so you guys start fucking i mean i'm telling you bro these courses are no joke they're they're both about 7500 tory can be even longer i mean so do you guys think you can make the cut in the open u.s open here yeah that's what we're thinking about i think we can't i mean we're going to be out
Starting point is 01:38:31 there and they have to give us this option we got to talk to Craig. We got to have to. They have to. They absolutely have to. Dude, I know it sounds like a joke. We, right. We are becoming a name. Like, we want in on these tournaments. We don't want the money. We don't want the money. We want to bring the entertainment. Pat, if a random dude came along and beat fucking Pat Perez and he beat Joel Damon and he beat Kevin Kisner, you'd be like, who the fuck is this guy? And that's us. Collectively, that's us. Guys, Z. Guys, it's not God. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:39:05 It's a four-man scramble. Let me ask this question. Do you think you guys can be not nervous enough to actually play with the Great Tiger Woods in a four-man against one and actually beat him? Or do you think you'd be so-kill us? To be around him, that you couldn't fucking hold the club. I'd forget him. Trette couldn't even speak to the man.
Starting point is 01:39:26 No. You guys wouldn't fucking beat him because you'd be so goddamn nervous just to be around him. You couldn't beat him. There's no way. toll, he'd rip a fucking stinger off the first team. He'd do it like a little fucking twirl and we'd all go crazy. Exactly. You'd be like it's old.
Starting point is 01:39:42 No, it'd be old. Also, you'd want to like show Tiger that you're not just inadequate completely. So then with that, you'd be chunking, spraying it left and right. It'd be a night. I've seen the movie. I know. I mean, that happens to pros, too. That's not just us losers.
Starting point is 01:40:00 Let's say you four guys are playing, but the fans. are all back. So you've got like 15,000 watching you guys. Well, we kill them. They would get physically injured. I mean, we are a one-man show. That's what's going to make you guys even more nervous is the fact you got all these people chirping in your ear, yelling at you, laughing at you when you hit a bad shot, that's about a fucking confidence goes like this, just nose dive. So that's another part. You're not going to make the cut. Those people could help us and some chances because when we spray it, I mean, it's a forecall, but those are just like rocks that you saw to keep the ball and play.
Starting point is 01:40:40 I would like, I would like to see it. I think it would be fun to watch, but I don't know what Tori if you guys, I don't know if you're going to, I don't think you're pulling it off. Did I heard, I heard Cochrak back there. Either one. The what? What happened? Riggs.
Starting point is 01:40:56 Well, I heard, I heard Cochrak back there chirping us. Is he thinking he could take us out if we're, We've never lost. We've never lost to one of you professionals. I think co-cracks in for the challenge, but the problem is if you have to drink as much as he drinks on the course, you guys need an ambulance. You're not even finishing the match anyway.
Starting point is 01:41:21 This boy can flat out drink. So if you have to drink the way he does, you got no prayer. Tell that coward will take. them down anytime. Put your money where your mouth is. We're closer to you guys. He's Cleveland. We can put this together in the summer.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Yeah, we'll play Firestone. See how you guys do. Star, get that rough about like, yay. Deal. You guys got no fucking bread. That'll be fun. Actually, we should do it at my home track
Starting point is 01:41:50 and just, I'll wax your ass there. It smells like there's shots being thrown. Also sounds to me like you're trying to find the best situation for yourself instead of just picking a course. I went to a course I never played. There you go. Never played the course. We were on even ground.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Whatever you guys bet. For our match. I'm down as long as you go shot for shot, beer for beer and other for other. Look at my fray, man. I'll literally get carried off on a shirt. You don't want to. Hey, by the way, how's the chip? It's a nightmare.
Starting point is 01:42:19 You saw it. You got to get a mat. Get a mat and a net. Dude, you, so they actually fit me with a high toe one, a tailor-made. And they were teaching me the toe-down chip, just to stand. Appaliminating my wrist. They're like, just putt it around. Like, when you're on that fringe,
Starting point is 01:42:34 just fucking put the thing with the shit with the wedge. Well, we had a big 10 minutes. What happened? We had it for 10 minutes in the race. A Matt and Annette is going to fix this lunatic. It's up here, dude. Pat, it's up here. You watched me on the range.
Starting point is 01:42:46 You're like, this kid's sick. It was unbelievable. And then I told you, whole one, first chance I get with a wedge, I'm going to fucking blade it. And what did I do? Nice Central. Nice Central.
Starting point is 01:42:56 I mean, it was a knife store. I mean, it was horrible. Dude, it was a. Nice Central. thousand miles an hour across the green right into the fucking bushes. Holy shit. Oh, man. All right.
Starting point is 01:43:10 That was fun of shit, though. We will do it again. We will do it again for sure. Yeah, we need a rematch. I think we got a new, I think you got a new match over here sometime this summer. You can believe me any time you want.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Why don't you guys put up or shut up? You said you've never lost. Why don't you play Pat and I? Oh, come on now. I don't know. Come on, bro. You guys get fucking... What would you guys shoot?
Starting point is 01:43:34 You never lost. It's about time. You guys are shoot at 57. We're hoping to it to Zurich. That's what we want to do it. Are you guys teaming up for? Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 01:43:46 Yeah. I need somebody to hit their driver really fucking long, draws it, and straight. Well, yeah, how about that hype show? He hit it fucking Shadow Creek on 18. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:43:58 That's what I'm looking for over there. He gets that driver like that we're going to be doing nice. Hey, you always never tee up? Or is that just because you were playing with us? Like, you threw the ball down. No, I don't ever tee up. I don't know. I get shit all the time about it. Drew's on me all the time about it. I actually had
Starting point is 01:44:13 Trump on my ass about it too. It's like, what if you tee it up? I go, yeah. Look, I know you're the president. Don't fucking question my shit here. I said, I don't know. No. I'm kidding. Dude, you had a three one. You threw the ball down and ripped it. I don't know what I never teed up the ball. I don't know what it was.
Starting point is 01:44:31 And the shittiest conditions I grew up in, you think I would have teed up the ball. But I never did. I just always, there's another person that's catty. I always put it on the ground and everyone's like, why don't you tee it up? Because I hit too far up on the face when I tee it up.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Really, the only thing I tee up is my driver. That's it. And I tee that like that high, which is incredible. Right. It's completely different. I never tee up an iron ever.
Starting point is 01:44:58 ever. I don't know why, but Jack said you're supposed to teed up. Dude, I tee that thing up like two inches in iron and it changes everything.
Starting point is 01:45:08 Yeah, I mean, you get 18 chances, right, to fucking put the ball in the air. I don't, I don't know why. I just never have.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Hey, I think it's working, bro. I don't, I don't think, I don't think you're fine. I think you're fine. I think you pick the right choice.
Starting point is 01:45:26 So, when's that match? the world. This comes out tomorrow, so we have to talk as though it's happening tonight. You know, that's a little, it's a little look into our world. Right. We say tonight, even though it's not. 8 p.m., YouTube, fucking Pat Perez, four-man scramble. You guys are going to love it.
Starting point is 01:45:43 It's over an hour's worth of fucking incredible content. We got the little, the cart camera. You're like, what the fuck is this thing? You're looking at it. I can't even see that thing's like, really old. Yeah. I'm sure I fucked up something on that camera. No, no, it's all perfect.
Starting point is 01:45:56 I mean, you were funny. The crew was good. Everyone was good. So go to YouTube for that. I know Rakes is outside. I don't know if we're wrapping this thing up. He's still at the fucking cradle. I'll talk all night.
Starting point is 01:46:06 This is the best part of my weekend. I can't believe you're out there. I don't even know how you have service. Dude, look at this fucking golf ball. Holy hell. It's a globe ball. There is a thing. I'm back.
Starting point is 01:46:22 You see the global? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, Pat, question for you. What would you be more shocked by? though, us making the cut at Tori or seeing us four idiots take a hack on the range
Starting point is 01:46:33 and telling you that we beat you, Joel, and Kisner. Well, Joel, I'm not the, you know. Kizner. I mean, that's shocking. It is surprising that you lost all three of us. You know, and you beat the other group, which doesn't really count in my book, but, you know,
Starting point is 01:46:52 because we're on our own. But, um, yeah, I can't believe you beat us, which is, it is upset. Now I start thinking about it more. I'm actually more pissed.
Starting point is 01:47:03 I thought I left her step at the end. I would love to watch you guys. I would come out and watch you to see what you would shoot on this conditions at this course right now. I don't care what you're playing in scramble. To see if you can make the cut. But I think it would be more funny
Starting point is 01:47:19 than watch you guys step on your dicks while you're playing with Tiger and a four-man scramble just to see how nervous you guys are around the man. Well, that's the ultimate goal, right? the ultimate goal is for us to play a four-man screen, Morgan, Tiger. Will we ever get there? Probably not. But I agree with you. And our whole point is that we want to be,
Starting point is 01:47:39 and let us tee off an hour before anybody else. What the fuck is fun in that? You got to get worn out the same way we get worn out. No, but my point is that we don't want to be negatively affecting anything. We just know, we know for a fucking fact, because you just said it, we all know it, that the entertainment value is there. Like can these four schmucks who all have a weekend hacker type game but can kind of piece it together as a four man scramble?
Starting point is 01:48:07 Can these four fucking knuckleheads make a cut and compete on the PGA tour as a four man scramble? People want to know. How the fuck you guys? How the fuck you guys got one shot that always came to one shot always that came together is incredible. Absolutely incredible. I do think the aspect of playing against ourselves. and like an imaginary number of where we think a cut would be on Thursday and Friday would get into our head more than facing one person, one v1, as opposed to like...
Starting point is 01:48:38 If you guys had to finish the last two holes of Tori and seven, which would be a birdie and a par, it's like, all right, he's making a par here. Yeah, exactly. Take the foot up against, like, when you're playing just against a number. You have no clue. You have no clue what you got to do when you're playing against yourself. So we'd have to get a... against the number early. If we didn't get up against
Starting point is 01:49:02 the number early, it would be a mess. Like if we were trying to get birdie or the last two holes, one under. But I'm telling right now, if I didn't put the way I did, that match would have been over in like 14. You're light out. It would have been 14, 13 holes easily would have been over. Well, you guys are not that fucking easy
Starting point is 01:49:18 to be. I promise you. And I didn't be amazing on the greens. You were amazing on the greens. Well, that day I was. So not to shift gears, but I did see your thing with the other guy. Did Anybody watched the Tiger thing at all? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Yeah, we watched it. What did you think at the end? I know he had the guy on, but I didn't see him on that. Well, I'll start. I thought that overall it was not a hit piece. I thought it was a little heavy at times on the salacious and not heavy enough on how amazing Tiger Woods is, especially the fact they didn't even touch on his charitable
Starting point is 01:49:58 contributions to the world, to kids, to all of these different people. So I thought that was some bullshit. But I thought generally, you have to tell the story of Tiger Woods. I thought they did a better job than people were giving them credits for, but I still thought it could have been better. And ultimately at the end, when I'm watching Tiger Woods walk away from Augusta National as the champion, winning the 2019 Masters, and they're playing the words of Earl Woods,
Starting point is 01:50:26 I was pretty much hard slash emotional and excited. So I was pretty fucking excited. I explained it to somebody today that the highs were really high and then they went really low with the lows. There's no real medium. They would like stroke him off and then they would fucking beat him up down at the bottom. And poor Earl, this fucking guy didn't even get it. He didn't give a chance to like defend himself. They wear his shit out.
Starting point is 01:50:52 You know, they're talking about the Winnebago and all the broads and all the fucking things. when the guy's not even around to like defend himself the same thing in the last dance where they fucking beat up jerry kraus and the guys ain't alive to be able to defend himself yeah you know it was gregs got fucking destroyed he got destroyed and i mean earl got to that point but he got earl got enough of it for sure big time so dude you talked about this pat a little bit and i'll see what you thought but like i thought they used editing and music and the style they're like the way that they wanted to tell that story. Perfect examples when they're when they're showing tiger
Starting point is 01:51:28 and Earl playing tigers maybe like 14 or 13 years old. They're zooming in on Tiger's face and he's like staring into the distance and over that footage they're talking about like Earl being a womanizer and Earl being really tough on her on him and the music's like super
Starting point is 01:51:44 sad and mad and like you're like oh my God this kid's fucking like suck meanwhile in reality if you show me just like 60 minutes of that footage of them playing golf on the golf course they're probably having, like, the time of their lives. Like, Tiger and his dad. Like, you can't tell me that they're not,
Starting point is 01:52:01 you can't tell me that kids held hostage out there on the golf course. He's not held hostage. There was no shot. I mean, like I said, I'm not a tiger forever, but, you know, Earl was tough, but he was going to create the toughest, you know, best golfer there ever was. And he basically succeeded. There's a ton of tough dads out there. I mean, like, when we go to terms, we see Justin Thomas's death.
Starting point is 01:52:24 standing on the grid. He's at all the time. With his arms folded, telling people to stop walking through the walkways so that his son can put. I mean, I watched it at the U.S. Open. He's standing there. All the time. Right.
Starting point is 01:52:34 So it's like, I mean, like, I don't know. It's obviously that this, he's one of the greatest stories in the history of all time. So everything's going to get exploded by a billion. And it is that, like, storybook, dad really, really hard on him. I mean, they fed him to the sound of golf balls being hit in this fucking high chair. It's a crazy story. But I think you're, I think I think I. agree with you when it's like the guy wasn't there to fucking he's not there to
Starting point is 01:52:58 at all everything gets magnified dude and like guess how many super hard fathers there were that were vicious and hard whose kid was like whose kid was like a hundred and seventy-seventh in the world right and like he did a he he did the same bullshit or worse or a little less who knows but like the same bullshit to dozens of kids and like just because tiger became tiger There's this massive highlight and people indict him and he's not there to defend himself. Like he said, Pat. So I think that's a really, really good point. I don't think we've talked about that on the show.
Starting point is 01:53:33 But I think that's a really, really good point. It's a great comparison to Krauss. Like, he got totally fucked. He was never there to defend himself. And anytime somebody's not there to defend himself and when they get totally buried, it's just, it's tough. It's a tough look. I played with Kukko's about two months ago.
Starting point is 01:53:50 And I was asking all about the last dance of this. that he had some different thoughts on it but i i thought this entire tiger piece was just a total fucking joke i thought it was an embarrassment for hbo i don't give a fuck what that guy says about anything what's the armin or whatever yeah i think i think it was arm and get tan i think it's a total embarrassment to come out i love that guy but i respect what you're saying i i think it's a total embarrassment to bring something up nine years later and you know i i get it but what i watched all that. I mean, I lived through that. Fuck, I've no entire, fucking 38 years.
Starting point is 01:54:29 You know, I've lived everything he's lived. I've done through it, you know. And to go through it was like watching and it was like being there in 09 again with all the deal and all the broads and all the fucking thing. It's like, what is the point? What is your point of bringing this up right now? No point.
Starting point is 01:54:45 And make money. And he has no involvement in it. So. No, first not. I mean, why would he? He must, you know, I don't know. I doubt he watched it. but, you know, he probably talked to somebody that has watched it, and it was like, fuck, bro. You know, I sent him, I said Tiger's message, actually, and said, it's embarrassing. I think it's embarrassing what they did to you.
Starting point is 01:55:04 I mean, they're fucking assholes as far as I'm concerned, and, you know, sucks you had to go through it. Is Tiger respond when you text him? No, he didn't respond there, but I think. But does he usually? Yeah, all the time. But I think that maybe he just wanted to leave it, you know? Yeah. Probably keep talking about to let it go.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Totally. He responds, he goes, yeah, fuck those assholes, this and that, you know. To him, he may think that may get somewhere, so he probably just to do it. I'll see him. I'm not being that text. You guys must be closer than I, I mean, I know you guys have been close, but, like, I would be shitting bricks sending that text message to Tiger Woods about that fucking documentary. Like, just fucking.
Starting point is 01:55:45 No, I just said, I have no problem with that. Yeah, that's awesome. It's actually a great day. I got a text for MJ, you know, asking me, like, how am I doing? And just checking in on you and then I'm fucking watching a tiger. thing and I texted it was a pretty cool day so you got a text from MJ just checking it like he's like hey brother just checking out how you doing
Starting point is 01:56:02 I go Jesus Christ oh I got a new oh got a new baby coming by the way oh found out yeah that was congratulations bro congratulations that's so incredible let's go fan in the family man fucking crazy we're excited it's fucking awesome actually is doing great do you know what the gender's going to be
Starting point is 01:56:20 or you guys not yet not yeah we're eight weeks so early Yeah. Dude, tell us, you said, tell Ashley we said, congrats. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:56:29 I will. No, I will. Definitely. Yeah, it was, so it was, yeah,
Starting point is 01:56:35 it's pretty cool. He's like, you know, let me know if it needed it. I'm like, fuck, that list could be really long. But,
Starting point is 01:56:40 but I need, I need everything, man. I mean, everything there is. Yeah. Have you fixed, have you finished the,
Starting point is 01:56:48 the, uh, the Jordan wall room? Because I mean, it'll be done. Yeah, it's going to be done this week. We go home,
Starting point is 01:56:53 uh, Sunday, Sunday night and then I'm going to have it all done. So it's going to be, it's going to be sick. Wow. That's awesome. The next time you guys come out, you'll see it. Because you're gearing up for Scotts, all right?
Starting point is 01:57:02 You wanted to have that all done for that week. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to next week. You know, I guess we're only going to have about 4,000 people out there. Yeah. Which they got none this week. I think Rick is going to be what? You're in the fucking pro-am or something like that?
Starting point is 01:57:16 Are you playing the pro-am? Yeah, I'm in the pro-am, but everybody's chirping me about hitting my shot on 16 and everything, but there's apparently there's going to be so somebody chirped me like yeah there's only going to be like 4,000 people on 16 not 20 and I'm like dude if two people watch me see off I'm literally
Starting point is 01:57:33 pissing down the right side of my I'm coming to watch him you're gonna be in town anyway I get back on Thursday you're already there no no no I'm in pinerge right now that pinerd when are you coming back I'll be back Thursday all right Tuesday night
Starting point is 01:57:50 we're hanging yeah we're gonna have a we'll have a little gathering on Tuesday So plan on. You know me, I'm in. But I have to Uber. If you get a DUI in Arizona, they send you to Ted City. You're gone, baby. You're gone, yeah, plan on Tuesday night.
Starting point is 01:58:05 You're fucking gone in Arizona. If this is a little PSA at anybody, you should never drink and drive, obviously. But especially in Arizona because they'll send your ass to Ten City. What is Ten City? It used to be a lot worse when Sheriff Joe was there. Sheriff Joe put his own son in Ten City for 30 days. Dude, Frankie, you get a DUI? they send you to tent city is like a like a prison in the desert where people just live in tents and it's
Starting point is 01:58:29 It's a tent It's crazy It's a tent and a cot And it's no matter what time of the year you are outside in a tent It could be 125 outside or it can be 30 in the winter It's illegal It's horrible No thank you
Starting point is 01:58:45 It feels like Siberia People are not drinking drive and they still do Sounds like fucking Siberia Hence why Uber, whenever I go to Pats, I Uber. Always. Always. All right, all right, man. Well, look, good luck this week.
Starting point is 01:59:02 We're going to be rooting for you like we always are. Tell Jason we're going to take his bitch ass down on the golf course in the four-man scrimmers. You won't say that to me. You won't say that to my face or his ass. I'm saying it from 3,000 miles away, obviously. What do you mean? I'm from Cleveland, man. he's at Pynhurst right now
Starting point is 01:59:22 Pinehurst He's Mr. Pinehurst He was there 9-9 days Dude I drove through I drove from Detroit To New York the other day And that fucking drive through Ohio Is maybe the worst drive
Starting point is 01:59:35 In all of the land Too know How is that worse than the one Across PA That was so Dude Maybe PAs Because you just went through Ohio
Starting point is 01:59:44 Like Yeah, you're probably right Like it's the double Like you're like fucking All right I'm through Toledo And then all of a sudden you hit like Amish country you're like where am oh it's Amish country it's the middle of nowhere like
Starting point is 01:59:56 kingpin it is no yeah it is like kingpin basically yeah just don't stop you loser let's play let's play firestone firestone would be amazing firestone's it'll make it happen canterbury's awesome man like there's so many good tracks in ohio bro like we we can make that well the challenge has been fucking thrown. So now it's accepted. It's already been thrown, so it has to happen. I guess I'll come to see it.
Starting point is 02:00:27 Question is, it's not about bringing clubs or golf or anything else. Who's bringing the booze? We'll bring the booze. You're going to bring the booze. We'll bring that high heat. Don't bring the booze. Don't bring the booze. High heat, buddy.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Well, boys, once again, I appreciate the match. It was fucking fun. I had a blast. It was fun hanging with you, boys. And we're going to do it again. Thanks, brother. All right, Pat. You're the man.
Starting point is 02:00:52 We appreciate you. Good luck this week. And I'll see you back in Scott. Bye, boys. I'll see you next week. Thanks, Pat. Thanks, Pat. See you, Jason.
Starting point is 02:01:00 See you, boys. See you guys. We just stopped recording, but I said, hit the record button because I want to push people to the YouTube page. If you haven't subscribed yet to Foreplay on YouTube, I'm doing a call. I'm calling it out. Everyone here pick a name.
Starting point is 02:01:16 We don't have Trent, so I'm going to pick two. But Ben Lurch, pick a name. for who has to subscribe to our YouTube channel today. Go. I'm going to go with Ben. If your name is my name, you've got to go and hit subscribe. Out of all the Ben's out there, if your name is Benjamin, Benedict, however your name starts or finishes, you go, click subscribe. It's really easy.
Starting point is 02:01:38 No skin off your back. Two clicks you're in. Riggs, you go. I'm trying to think of what must be the most common white guy name that listens to 4Play podcast in the fucking country. And I'm going to say, you've got to be Joe, no? I'm going to say,
Starting point is 02:02:00 have we said Mike? Did we say Mike last week? No. Mike, if your name's Mike, Michael, Mikael, I don't give a fuck what it is. I'm going to say, if your name's Mike or any variation of Michael, go subscribe immediately to our YouTube channel. And if you don't, we are going to hunt you down and be very upset with.
Starting point is 02:02:20 All right, so we got Ben, Mike, and Thomas. If your fucking name is Thomas, Tommy, Tom, and you're not subscribing to this goddamn YouTube channel, I'm calling you out, Ben, Mike, Tom, go do it. You're listening to me right now in your earlobes. I just said your name. You know it's you that I'm talking about. You specifically, Tom, go fucking subscribe to you.
Starting point is 02:02:50 and watch this video tonight. Let's go. It's Pat Perez. It's four-man scramble. I'm out of here. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.
Starting point is 02:03:00 Did you give two names, though? I thought you were going to give one for Trent. Just do Trent. And the name Trent. If your name is Trent. If your name's Trent, you got to go. All right. We got Ben, Tom, Mike, and Trent.
Starting point is 02:03:14 That's who has to subscribe. You have to. You have to. Legally binding. All the trends. All the Trent. out there are just devastated. Dude, if you, if you're, yeah, if your name's Trent, you thought you got off easy,
Starting point is 02:03:27 but you did not. If you got big cancels and you're from the Iowa fucking corn fed fucking area of the United States, you better go fucking subscribe. Man, I had such a good exit there and you fucked me up there, Lurch. But it was a good thing. I know, I love it. I'm happy. Sweet Adam.
Starting point is 02:03:42 He has no idea. No New York Islanders. Hit it hard. Let's go blues. Hit it hard. Let's go Rangers. It hard.

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