Fore Play - Dave Portnoy Buys Back Barstool, Lurch Is Back (Again)
Episode Date: August 10, 2023A Frankie, Trent and Lurch show. Dave Portnoy bought back 100% of Barstool Sports, and everyone is fired up. Frankie was back on the sticks for Barstool Radio - and his stress level skyrocketed. Lurch... joins (25:27) to talk about Justin Thomas, his night at the Taylor Swift concert, his health and golf game, Pickleball, and more. The boys take a couple interesting calls from fans, who tell a few unbelievable tales (including an absolute horror story) from the golf course.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Oh, Rick!
What's up, my brother?
I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot.
His name's Frankie Borrelli.
So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he always knives to the cross the green.
Broads 100.
Now you've got to break 90.
We appreciate what you guys do for golf.
It's been really cool.
Thank you.
You're making it cool.
I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99.
And he grabs 100.
He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday.
He goes, take 100 and go, fuck yourself.
What?
What are you that different?
It's ain't a hobby.
Foreplay presented by Chevrolet.
Our good friends at Chevrolet, we love the Chevy EVs,
and brought to you by the David Scott Portnoy-owned Barstool Sports.
That's right.
Like, what a day we have here, fellas.
What a 48 hours that it's been.
You've got Trent Frankie.
You've got Brennan Jones and Alex Bush behind the ones and twos.
It's the Trent and Frankie show today.
We've got no Rigsie Boy.
He is, I don't know where he is.
He was playing up northern Michigan, and then I think he's going to Branson.
Is he going to Big Cedar?
He's going to Big Cedar.
He's going to Big Cedar with his buddies.
He's got a little bit of a buddy's trip.
We're excited to hear about that.
Obviously, Big Ceres is an incredible golf destination that we went to
as a group this year.
Was it this year?
Just a couple months ago.
A month ago was incredible.
So that'll be good to get that recap.
Danny Boy is out just frolicing amongst the Lion King.
The clip that he put out today of all those like whatever those animals were running down
the hill was legitimately seen out of the Lion King.
Yeah.
I figure we're going to see a lot of those.
I think he's been sending Alex Bush a bunch of those videos, but I've been seeing them on
Instagram.
It's one of those trips where it's, you're just going to see a bunch of crazy shit.
And that's why you go. Crazy your shit.
Dave Portnoy bought back Barstle and it's the greatest thing that's ever happened in this company.
It's really been an amazing couple of days.
I don't even know where to start, what to talk about, but it just feels right.
I want to talk about the fact that I just did Barstall radio for the first time in like four years.
It was like my first thing that I really did here at Barstool.
It was like my first year.
We were on Power 85 Barstool Radio.
We were on the MMA Combat Channel.
We had the 12 to 1 or 11 to 12.
hour and uh dave was like you're the producer of this barstool's uh radio show and i had no idea what the
fuck i was doing and you now fast forward like seven years past that eight years past that we finally
had barstill radio back today kfc inside uh he was the host with fidelberg and tommy had dave coming on the show
big day and all the audio just broke on me 22 000 people watching live on youtube every i was set up to fail
i fucked up they fucked up pete fucked up everybody fucked up i don't know how it happened but the
music wasn't working.
All the things that I was excited about wasn't working and we barely got through it.
It was amazing.
I'm on edge right now.
You are.
You've had a tough day.
Your face has been read for 90% of the day.
Fuck.
But yeah,
when they were doing Barcelona radio,
when they would cut to Dave's camera,
a guy who the whole world wants to hear from.
Because it's really a miraculous journey that he's been on.
And the latest chapter is maybe the craziest one.
And every time they would cut to his camera during Barcelona radio,
the sound would cut out.
And he's getting red face because there was nobody here in the morning and he was going crazy that his employees, he's been at the head of the regime again.
He's back to the head of the regime for 23 hours and the next morning his employees don't show up before 945.
So he's going crazy.
You can just see his face getting more red as he's getting angrier and you just can't hear a word he's saying.
So behind the scenes, basically like this system, they have the yak on it every day.
I was getting a million tweets.
How the fuck does the yak go seamlessly?
The yak goes on it.
Pick Central was on two minutes before it, perfectly fine.
Then all of a sudden, Barcelona Radio goes on.
Frankie comes off the golf course into the fucking producer studio and everything breaks.
I guess they have all these projects that they build.
And the Yak has its own project.
The Pick Central has its own project.
And they built one last night for Barcelona Radio.
They have all their little elements in there.
I was just coming in as like a guest producer for the day.
We go live and everything's muted and like behind closed buttons that we couldn't even see.
I'm hitting on mute mute.
Nothing's working.
The guys can't hear the music.
No one on YouTube can hear the music.
For some reason, camera two was muted with the audio every time they cut to it.
We didn't realize it until 10 minutes into it.
I'm yelling at people.
I told Pete, I went out and I ran over to Pete.
And I said, I know I haven't been in this office in like three years.
We've been fucking grinding and building up for play in Barcelona.
But I need you to get into this fucking producer room right now because your shit is crumbling.
I looked at him.
I said, your shit's crumbling right now.
And I'm the one to blame.
So it was a nightmare.
It was a nightmare today, but we got through it.
We're here talking golf.
And we survive in advance.
And yeah, our lives are just back into the mud.
There's a part of you that liked it.
I did like it.
Yeah, my stress meter on my whoop just went through the roof.
I got a notification being like, this isn't normal.
Right.
But I definitely do love it.
I love being back in the mix.
I like, do I like people telling me to go kill myself?
No, that's definitely something I don't enjoy.
People were very mad at me on Twitter because the audio didn't work.
But I do like being in the fire.
I like the flames.
I like the heat.
I like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, we're about to go live and if it fucks up, it fucks up.
And it fucked up.
It's incredible.
There, this, the, the day of buying Barstool Back has done a lot of things.
And what it's really done is put us in a time machine to 2018 when everybody was back.
Everybody's back in the office.
Frankie's face is red.
Everybody sort of feels when Dave's putting out videos yelling about how no one is here, you really get that old feeling back.
And, you know, we've been feeling that for the last.
last 24 hours. It's crazy. I was thinking about it. When I got hired at Barstool at the beginning of
2014, Dave owned Barstool. It was all his. A couple of years in, I would say it was probably
2016 was the churn and sale. So he sold a little bit then. And then a few years later, Penn came
in, Penn took over. And that's sort of been our lives for the last couple of years. At no point
did I ever think Dave would fully own Barstool again. And I don't think he thought about it either
until a couple weeks ago, but now that is a reality.
And it's pretty fucking wild.
Yeah, we've been getting congratulation texts from friends and family and athletes and
celebrities.
Everyone is reaching out to barstool personalities being like, this is the greatest thing
I've ever seen when if you think about, you take a step back and realize like everyone
understands what this means.
You know what I mean?
Dave is that big of a presence and he's that important to this engine that maybe
they saw that like, you know, the light at the end of the tunnel was starting to kind of
of like dimmer a little bit that pen was taking over and all of this stuff was happening and
Dave was in Miami and everything was kind of just like I guess transitioning away from old school
barstool. Yeah. And then all of a sudden out of the fucking clouds, it's just, it's not just back,
it's fully back. Yeah. It's back to a place that it hasn't been in like 10 years. Yes. Because even
when Dave sold the churnin, he didn't have like majority ownership, I don't think, for a lot of the
times. Like it was, he definitely was calling the shots. He was in the mix.
Like when I first started working at Barstle, Dave owned Barstle, even though Ternan had a major investment in it.
Yeah.
He was still very much making the shots, making the calls.
That was not the case the last couple of years it felt like.
No, because, yeah, Churning, I don't remember the specifics, but the Churning deal was different from the Penn deal and that Penn owned Barstool.
Yeah.
Like it was there.
So they were starting to make the decisions.
I mean, we felt it on our end where it was like expense reports and just sort of having to report more of the things like how real company is supposed to be run.
and now we're just going back to the time when that doesn't exist.
And the split was amicable.
Penn is now doing the ESPN bets.
Dave gets Barstool back and every party is happy with how it shook out.
Extremely happy.
You know, we're still are, you know, we're still very financially invested in what, like,
in the future of Penn, I would say, like making sure that that all goes well.
I know I personally am.
I've been on that ride since the very first day that they acquired Barstall.
So I'm hoping nothing but success and prosperous future for ESPN bet and for Penn because obviously I've got some shares in that.
And I want that to keep going.
Me as well.
It's just a story that you just never hear where a guy at the end of the whole run gets his company back.
And Dave said in the meeting yesterday and I'm one in a billion.
I don't even know if it's possible.
I think it's a higher number.
I think it's one in however many numbers there are.
Because it's the only one.
Yeah.
Like when you get it, he just got the company back.
It's his baby.
They just sold it.
A couple years ago.
Yeah, but like they just got like there was a huge moment.
People were getting congratulation texts in like February about like getting their full money vested in account.
I remember texting KFC being like, dude, you're a rich guy today.
Yep.
That's an incredible day.
And now that's still true.
And we got the company like they've got the company back.
I know.
And he's.
My head's kind of spinning just thinking about it.
Well, I've been thinking about it a lot.
I took the train back yesterday because yesterday was a lot.
Like we came in.
There was an all hands meeting at bar stool.
we weren't really told what it was going to be about.
It was just like at 415.
Erica and Dave are going to talk and then we'll go from there.
We were out filming a video out of Colonial.
We were and we decided to come in and see it because I've worked here for a long time,
but I also just love the internet.
And Barstool is such a part of the internet.
Even as a person when I didn't work here,
I was so interested in Barstool.
And now that I'm in it,
I just like seeing internet history and it just felt like something was going to happen.
and like the biggest thing that's happened to this company happened.
Yeah, we took trains in.
You drove in from Long Island.
We shot a golf video.
And we were just sitting there.
And Dave made the announcement.
And the place, everybody started clapping.
People were going crazy.
Because it's, I mean, Dave has now said he's not going to sell the company again.
He's going to keep it forever.
And he's like, you know, when I die, give it to Kevin, give it to Dan, give it to their kids.
Like, it's his now for the rest of time.
and we've been here forever.
I doubt we're ever going to go anywhere.
So it's a joyous, joyous day for people who love Barstool, people who work at Barstool.
It's just a whole new world, a world that I just didn't ever think we would see again.
And it's very exciting, very exciting.
It's a great time to be working at Barstool.
It's a great time to be a fan of Barstool.
Things like today with Barstool Radio, even though I fucked it up and the audio didn't work.
Just having everyone in the office, the spider monkey, Nate, getting called.
called in and Dave's shitting on everyone for being late and where's Rico Bosco.
He's on vacation.
Dave's calling him and Mike Portnoy called in.
It's like it's everything that you fell in love with in the early days of Barstool in the,
in the in the in the first move to New York Barstool where it really revved up.
It grabbed basically the attention in the hearts of every single male from like 13 to
fucking 35 and 40.
Every single person was obsessed with Barstool and it just like it became a cultural phenomenon.
We're like getting back to.
that we definitely were starting to steer away from that it felt like everything was getting a little
bit more corporate things were starting to be like you have to hit certain goals we have to be at a
certain place as a business or else where it's it's going to be bad yeah now it's like we get to
just be barcel sports again which is uh yeah i'm not sure how it happened i don't know the financials
but around like what's actually going on around this place it's amazing you see all these tweets about like
how dave pulled it off it's a he's he's a legitimate genius oh yeah portnoy is one
in however many numbers there are type of person.
I've always wanted to say to him just how, like, I mean, obviously he would never want to hear
this from me or anybody really because he doesn't like compliments that much.
He kind of just like walks on his way and does his own thing.
But how impressive it is that a guy that started this company giving out newspapers and not
really knowing where it was going to take him can somehow find himself in a situation where he's
having meetings with like billion dollar companies and he's selling this big business.
business to them and then he's like taking it back and like how impressive that is for the guy from
swam scott massachusetts who never in a million years had any sort of um training in like business
uh like acquisitions and sales and he's able to kind of just like dominate the world somehow
the business world guys have gone to all these business schools and they learn the tricks of the
trade and dave just comes in and he's just like one of the top dogs.
Some how, some way.
This guy has learned how to be a top dog in the world.
He's got the greatest gut of all time.
I don't know how it happened.
He's got a great, great business gut and a great content gut.
What he feels, he goes with, and it just, it always works out.
And this is the ultimate test of that, where you just get your company back 100% and now we are just fully a company that wants to make great, interesting content.
And we still got to make money.
that's still something that has to happen.
I mean, the four-play success really hasn't changed.
I don't think anything that has happened in the last three or four years really was ignited or helped by whatever was happening with like the back end of the company.
I feel like this.
There's still brands at Barstles Sports that have like operated as though it's always operated.
You know what I mean?
There's definitely going to be some changes on the business side and the way it operates.
And I'm sure like all the whatever, however many people that we used to hire to do all that stuff.
for a major company probably aren't going to be needed as much if we're going to kind of like
tighten it up a little bit. But I think our day of life or our work life won't change at all.
You know what I mean? I agree. I agree. I think that Dave has kind of made that a point where it's
like we get to just keep being who we always have been. Right. We're still going to do Barstall
classics. We're still going to sell merch. We're still going to have ad reads on this podcast.
We're still going to do all of those things. And we're just going to continue on. Like, it's a great, great,
great day for barstle sports so good if i run it through my head about the situation that like went down
with pen and barstall i would think that dave would like if you get a company back it's usually like
not the same company that it was before for sure but we're all still here the brands are still here
the engine is still here yeah so all the things we were doing before and all the things that we were doing
during are just going to continue and he says it's going to be here for the rest of time he says
our kids' kids will have barcel's sports to be able to come to and work at so and that makes me
fuck that fires me up yeah i mean he's operating it like the small business that he started essentially
where it's like this is ours and no one's going to take it from us and we're just going to have
this like bully mentality shout out jersey jerry where it's just like it's us against a world again
and the difference that's fucking incredible it's incredible and the difference from when it started
to now is that dave just has has way more money yeah he's just like i did the thing that i wanted to do
and I got my company.
Well, yeah, I mean, without speaking for him,
I would assume that a lot of the,
a lot of the, like, reasoning for where Barcel has gone
is to like make life changing money, right?
Like trying to build up a company to get to a point
where you can sell it and make, fuck you money.
Yes.
That's like what owning a company is.
And he did it.
And now he gets to have his business back.
So it's like that drive and that ambition of like wanting to do that again is probably
gone.
And now it's just like,
let's let's just create this place of what it always was supposed to be without that like
let's go try and put this to market and get the highest bidder and all that stuff because that's gone
right i would say there were two parts of it again not speaking for him wants to make a much money
but he also loves the content side of it he loves the the weird quirky guys he loves the nates
of the world the jersey jerrys of the world all these guys who create and us you create an ecosystem
of content that dave just loves that and like you said the
the part where he just want to make a bunch of money,
he did that.
And but he still has the part where he wants to make,
he wants to have the company that's like quirky and interesting and has weird characters.
And now we get to do that too.
It's very cool, man.
It's,
it's,
it's unbelievable.
It's amazing.
He's been in a great mood.
I can't believe.
We,
like, shook his hand yesterday and said, like,
congratulations.
Like,
you just got your baby back.
And that's,
that's a really,
really cool thing.
He was,
you know,
he was,
he was happy yesterday.
Oh,
for sure.
He was in a great mood.
And,
You just don't, you don't get to see that a ton from him.
And today he came in guns blazing.
If you weren't at the office by 930, he was tweeting about it.
So it's just, we're back.
We're so back.
The audio wasn't working on the Barsoor radio.
I get it.
Fuck, I'm still getting tweets about it.
Yeah, amazing.
Absolutely amazing.
We do have some calls that we're going to get to today.
So that's, I'm going to start sending out some links.
We have, I basically tweeted out if you have an interesting story on the golf course,
we want to hear from you.
We've talked to superintendents on the show when it's been the Trent and Frankie show.
We've talked to pros.
I wanted to see if we had any like horror stories in the golf course.
And from what I'm reading, we have a couple horror stories on the golf course that we want to get to.
I actually want to send out this link to this guy right here.
His name is Canon Claybomb.
Wait a second.
Canon Claycomb.
Wait a second.
A lot of people follow this guy.
I know that guy.
Dude, I ran into him in the lobby at the Corn Ferry Tour event.
So yeah.
We took a picture together.
Everyone, like a lot of people follow this guy.
So I figured this is a real.
This guy's really nice.
I like this guy.
He claims that he played in a Florida amateur tournament, and they had a three-hour delay for an active shooter event.
Wow.
I want to hear about that.
Yeah.
Send him that link.
He's going to get a little dark in here.
No, we're going to figure it out.
And maybe a lurch appearance.
I don't know if that's true.
I think Lurch is going to be calling in.
He's going to be one of the guys that we reach out to.
We sent him the link ready.
So whenever he's done with his other meetings, he's going to hop right in.
Yeah, no, it's been a great day.
It's been definitely stressful.
We've been in the office way more than we've ever been in the last year.
Which is my two days in a row.
It's my third day in a row for you, two days in a row for me.
Haven't had that since before COVID, I don't think.
And when the videos were going out of Dave, you know, yelling at people about not getting here on time,
my train got in at 1002 and I probably made it to the office by 10.03.
Yesterday when we were at Colonial and we had this meeting of 415,
I made it to the office from East Farmingdale to New York City in like 39 minutes.
I couldn't believe you were here.
39 minutes.
Me and John Fidelberg took a train that took 40 minutes.
And I was like,
Frankie's never going to make it if he's driving in.
And you got here like,
I went home and changed.
That's insane.
Went home,
changed.
You beat both of us too.
I beat both of you guys who left from the golf course first.
I changed.
I put money in the mailbox for the gutter guy,
which this fucking gutter guy,
I almost got swindled into paying $500 to clean my gutters.
And this,
I almost paid this guy.
right he came in he did all the fucking he did all the the uh measurements comes in the backyard i'm
working in the backyard i've been painting like a fucking you've been doing the painting i've been
painting yeah that's a mistake i'm painting a deck it's a nightmare it's hard and i've been
stepping in the paint i'm not realizing that i'm painting and i'm stepping you were telling me
about this you're doing it because you've been paying people to do a lot of the things in your
backyard yeah you've done a whole like remodel of your backyard we got new pavers in we did like
foundation coverings. I just didn't want to have to cut things and like cover
vents. Like I've been getting thumbtack people. I go on thumbtack and I just I just say can
you come do this and they do it. So you've been feeling emasculated I would imagine and you're like,
I want to do something so I can contribute to this backyard and you've decided that
painting is yours. So we have an old hot tub that was there when we bought it and I got it fixed.
I like got it up and running. All it needed was like a flow sensor. People in my life tried to
tell me to trash this hot tub.
I'm like, I'm telling you it's going to be worth just seeing if it works.
It was a $100 fix.
We fixed this fucking thing.
It's 110 degrees now.
It's rolling.
So we ended up having a little bit of a deck that we didn't put pavers on underneath
this hot tub.
And it's like old.
It's shot.
It's like an old deck.
It's probably 15 years old.
I said, I can restore this part.
It's just the size of a hot tub.
And I knew that I could just like sand it down.
I can power wash it and I'll fucking paint this thing.
I thought it'd be a 10 minute process.
It's been four days of me out there fucking ripping up.
I'm putting in wood filler.
I don't know what I'm doing.
Dude.
I've been stepping in the paint.
The paint's been all over me.
And then I went to go wash the paint out.
I did it on the grass.
It's all over the grass.
It's been an absolute nightmare.
I can't really do anything handy unless, but then sometimes I can.
I built like an outdoor shower door because this house came with an outdoor shower like thing.
It's incredible.
Wait until you see this thing.
like PVC, I drilled it into the house.
I can do it if I have like instructions.
But if someone just hands me paint and like wood filler and like and all this stuff and
says like just figure out how to do this perfectly, I couldn't, I can't do it.
Right.
You don't have the instincts.
No instincts.
You need step by step.
This is how you do it.
Step one, you do this and you don't fuck it up.
Step two.
And here's a picture of how you don't fuck it up.
Yep.
So I've been doing that.
So I finally painted this deck.
Right.
I painted the deck.
It looks good, like really good.
darker color. You can't even see all the
imprints on it, all the mistakes.
And the only thing is it can't really get wet for those
first couple hours. The paint says four
hour rain ready. So I just got to get through four hours. And it wasn't going to
rain. There was no rain in the forecast. 92 degrees.
I'm like, oh, it's nice and hot. We're fine. This thing's going to
fucking dry up in no time. I finish up painting.
Legit, I get off my hands and knees. And this
new gutter guy comes. So a guy tried to
come and charge me 500 bucks. I said, go
fuck yourself. I had a new guy come
in 150 bucks. So that first guy
was five times four and a half times more than the other guy i should fucking sue that guy well you were a mark
i was a mark he saw you and was like i can get 500 bucks out of this so it ended up being 150 bucks which is probably still a lot
it's just we have a high ceiling i don't want to get up there on the roof i'm not falling off a roof fucking cleaning out my guards that's not happening and then he wanted to sell me
he wanted to sell me gutter covers for five thousand five hundred dollars and he goes you'll never need to do this again so now i'm doing the math
and i'm saying though if i can find a guy to clean out my gutters once a you're going to you're
year for 150 bucks that's like fucking 35 years right yeah that money i'll be dead by then you want me to
give you five thousand dollars for fucking gutter cover so that the leaves he's he tried to sell me on
some bullshit that the metal of these because i said i said doesn't the i said don't the leaves
just cover the covering just like they would any gutter he goes no this type of metal they fly right
off i said you're fucking lying to me i almost took the bait on this guy he's like it's incredible
you you'll never believe the gutters i'm like we're talking about gutters here but the
the thing is, is if he gets, if he gets one of you guys, which I guarantee every once in a while he gets one, he gets his pay for the whole year.
So here's what happened. I take the cheaper guy, 150 bucks. He does all the gutters. He fucking kills it. He's up there. He's on the roof. He asked me where my hose is at, which was a little bit weird. I'm like, oh, I guess he's going to have to hose it out. And I didn't really think. So I just painted this deck. I finished within minutes. It can't get wet, right? All of a sudden, I'm inside my kitchen and I'm washing my hands. I got all the paint on it. And I hear just a hose coming from the roof.
and it's just taking out all these leaves
and he's just blasting my patio
that I just fucking painted.
Blasting it.
A hundred miles an hour.
Just absolutely,
I'm talking,
I'm looking out,
I'm looking out the paint is just pooling everywhere.
It's going on the hot tub.
It's going on to the patio.
The patio now,
the brand new patio has just,
has just paint all over it,
pooling,
like slowly moving like an oil spill.
And I go out there.
I'm like,
what are you doing?
You're screaming.
What are you doing?
Like, what are you doing?
Why can't you shoot the fucking leaves out the other way?
And he goes, I don't care.
He literally said, I don't care.
I'm just, I'm in and out.
I'm in and I'm out.
I'm like, you fucked me.
So that four days worth of, of tape.
And he ripped up all the tape.
He ripped up all the tape because then he went to go blow dry all the shit that he flew out of my gutters.
And he blew, he blew dried.
He blew drood.
He blew drood.
He blew drood all the tape that I had around the fucking hot tub.
He just blew it off.
All my.
Work was gone.
So he fucked it up.
There's paint splattered all over the hot tub.
It's a nightmare.
It's a full-blown fucking nightmare.
Is it on me?
I probably should have told the guy, hey, listen, don't fucking blow it on here.
Probably, but he saw it was a war zone.
He saw it.
So are you going to do it again again?
I got to do it again by Saturday.
I got this birthday party for my 30th birthday party.
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There's a big man. Would some be a little freaks?
Benjamin Severance has joined the show. How's it going, Lurcha?
Thank you. Barrella. What's your middle name?
Joseph.
Joseph.
Frank Joseph Borelli the third, but there's some debate of maybe I'm, you know, my aunt, right the day
before my wedding, we had a dinner, like a wedding rehearsal dinner.
And at that, you know, it's a pretty big day in my life.
The next 24 hours is a lot.
And my aunt, my aunt Angela ends up telling me, yeah, you know, your grandfather's name was actually
Francis.
Oh.
So I'm like not even a, not even the third.
Like my whole life was a lie, like right there at that.
moment. But I guess he was Francis in Italy or like Francisco.
Oh, they changed him. And then when he came to Ellis Island, he was Frank Joseph
Borrelli. And your dad is Frank Joseph. Yeah, his death certificate says Frank
Joseph Borrelli. All right. We've done some screwed up things. I think that name changed
that they just gave him. It's one of the most preposterous thing. You used to be a
Borrello. Now you're Borrelli. Like, why? Why? Why?
Insane.
Ellis Island was doing some wild shit. They like, they like, they, they
just made you up the rules.
shave everybody's head because they heard that there was lice on the boat so everyone just came
in bald oh boy what's up with you big man you know um not a whole lot you know traveling quite a bit
um you know slinging drones slinging VR doing that whole thing trying to play a little golf from
time to time playing a little pickleball i organized little we had our company sales kickoff
or sales summit we got 30 to 40 pickleball players out there but i saw the permit that you all had
Look, we got to get you in the mix, dude.
There's some real pickling going on at these things.
I'd love to see how you face up against a 4.5 duper rating pickleball player.
These guys are fucking good.
I loved it.
I loved it.
It looked like a great tournament.
And next time I will for sure try to get in the mix.
What level do you think you can play at?
Like, are you, like, how good are you?
I don't know.
You know, like I've never done the rating system.
We did, what I guess we entered.
my brother and I like there was some Vero pickleball is 5.0 pro 5.0 is I think as high as you can go okay so we entered the 4.0 division um and we like we hung we hung around we did all right I think we want to set but then we lost um you know we were in the mix but certainly I think that was my second time playing and learned a lot yeah you pick up some things where you're like dude I didn't know you could do that kind of
I think.
All right,
I got to take a mental note about that and see if I can
do it.
The most fun was watching the morning wave at the pickleball tournament,
which is people that are just happy to be there.
Want to get out,
get a little exercise,
play with their friends,
have a good time.
And we're like,
oh,
that was great.
It went so smooth.
Almost no complaints.
Everyone was just like,
oh my gosh,
that was so much fun.
Take a little bit of a break.
The second wave gets there,
which is the 4.0,
a completely different animal.
Frankie's comment,
the thing that was clear.
whatever.
I forget the exact line, but it was just like, how did that?
Well, I said, because we're, you know, it was all about scheduling.
We wanted to make sure we got the games going.
So I said, well, this group of players, you, your group of players is obviously way better
than what we saw this morning.
And people were still there from the morning.
It was gold.
It was gold.
They're not heckling.
I mean, it's, it's not wrong.
They're just way better.
But, you know, it's just a shot across the bow for all the people that took up.
I thought it was okay to say it's because they signed up for those specific ones.
Like you're signing up for the lower level.
It's not like I put you in there.
I didn't assess your skill level and say you're way worse.
You're telling me you're worse by signing up for the 3.0.
You know what I mean?
It's true.
But that second wave, man, we had we talked about the last podcast, but they were complaining about the lighting on the court.
They were like, I don't know if this is right.
And we're like, they wanted to switch sides after eight points.
We're like, bro, it's indoors.
There's no sun issues.
There's no wind.
They're like, how are we not switching after?
See? Remember when I was complaining about the in-office ping pong table there?
You know, that's the worst ping pong I've ever played in my life.
Was it at the barstool office?
Cold balls, he said.
Cold balls.
People forget.
When I tried to rip it, it wasn't.
People forget.
People forget.
We talked up Lurch like he was just the Yokevich of ping pong.
He got crushed.
And he got crushed when he came in the office.
Frankie saw me play at, what does that play?
fat cats and some other places.
And we had played before and you were like,
this guy can beat anyone lefty.
Look like,
yeah.
He beat me lefty,
like 111.
Wow.
And it just,
it was a different person in the office.
Anyways,
how are you boys doing?
Did you pick up a racket at the pickleball tourney?
No,
I didn't.
I was just there,
you know,
sort of keeping an eye on things.
That was pretty much it.
I haven't played much.
The only time you've ever played was with,
was with Larry Fitzgerald.
I didn't have a great first experience.
I was like,
this is the most.
pathetic array of like rackets players I've ever seen in our life.
Dude.
I mean,
horrible.
Imagine being like,
I'm going to play football for the first time and you line up against Lawrence Taylor.
You're like,
all right,
great.
Very different,
dude.
No,
you'd have to say like playing tennis for the first time you play Roger Fedder.
I mean,
Larry Fitz is obviously an incredible,
but he's not like a pickleball player.
Now he is.
Right.
But he's a guy like,
so he's a better athlete.
His lateral movement is unmatched.
But he's,
but what he has.
has done is he retired from the NFL and guys like him they are just they are competitive and they
get addicted to these things and his new thing is pickleball he's playing six days a week and then
I show up and dude the lateral movement on him dude when you would serve it when you would serve it
when you would serve it to him and then he would return it you knew that the return was getting on the
back line and now he's at the net good luck getting that ball anywhere near or around larry
Fitzgerald. He's getting to it.
No. I honestly can't imagine.
Six, six, six, eight, quick, huge.
Any hands possible.
Yeah.
And mean. He looked me right in the eye and he said, you're the weakest link out here.
A future Hall of Famer looking at you going, of all the people out here, you're the weakest link.
And I was like, well, I feel like shit.
I think, I don't know.
The courts actually played might even been like sponsored by Larry.
We were out in Phoenix like North Scottsdale.
Actually, I was in, up in Bolero or whatever, you know, the bowling alley.
Yeah, Bolero.
Yeah, in North Scottsdale, we went to.
But anyways, I think the courts might even been like sponsored by Larry Fifth.
There's like 16 pickleball courts at this JW Marriott.
He's very involved in the pickleball world.
He's got a league.
He might have courts.
Yeah.
It's a growing game, though.
It's a great game.
So anyways, next time I want to mix it.
up. I don't know if I want to take this guy's call. So while I was thinking about taking calls,
I wrote on Twitter, if you have an interesting golf story, like, you know, we'll send you the
Zoom link and we'll get you on here. But this guy, I mean, I'm in pain reading this.
I mean, the title of this DM is golf slash ruptured testicle slash hospital trip.
Yeah, we get him on here? We need that guy. Yeah. I mean, I'm in pain just fucking thinking about
it. Let's just pull out a golf club. I will say, officially, thank God of the nice guys are telling me.
I'm done with these things.
These MCs, they're just too good for me.
I can't, I can't hit him, dude.
Back to the 770s?
Right back to them, dude.
That's the big news of me.
These things have eroded all of my golf confidence,
but I've ever,
blades are hard to hit,
are really hard to hit.
Did you see the new P790s they just came out with
where their AI, like, designed,
where like the five iron is now designed differently
than the nine iron,
the internal components of,
the P790s. I never even thought of that as like a big deal, but when you think about it,
like they make the inside plates of whatever brand it is, right? The P770s have a certain
internal plating system to allow you to have the same feel and the P790s have a different
one. But now from pitching wedge to four iron or three iron, whatever, they're completely different
on the inside so that the higher spin is going to be on the nine, the eight, the seven,
and that the lower spin, more control, lower trajectory is going to be on the four, five, six.
That's incredible.
And for.
To be in the year 2020, three, and everyone's going to be like, oh, you guys are just like sucking them off.
They're your sponsor.
Number one, yeah, we love them because they are that.
But number two, the proof is in the pudding.
Like the best players in the world are hitting tailor maids.
And my point that I want to bring up is that in the year 2023 with all the technology that has been, you know, come up or created in golf.
and how far that we've come in the game of golf,
to be able to come up with an idea like that
that seems so groundbreaking for the club.
I figured that we have already reached peak technology in golf clubs,
and they just came out and they're like, no,
we have an AI building these fucking things.
That blew my mind.
That really did.
Reading up on that, I was like, whoa.
How's your guy's game?
I threw the spider in the trash,
and I got the,
I got the
I couldn't put it anyway
I couldn't put it anyway
It was more of a USU but yeah
I got the TP reserve
I got the TP reserve
I'm a 50 handicap right now
I like every round is horrible
And I thank God
Essie I was like
Dude just just give me something different
To look at like I just give me a blade putter
I know it's gonna be worse for me
But I want to do something different
And he's nice
He's gonna give me some of the 770s
And then a blade putter
because it's it's dude the TP reserve is the greatest putter ever i'm telling you right now i'm putting it
really well i have a nice smooth stroke my lag putting's better i feel like my my distance control is
way better on the greens something about i'm not a very skilled putter so i felt like the heavier
head spider gt was giving me way less like feel on like touchy putts where like i didn't actually
feel like i had control of like all right you have to hit it right here because it's so fast it's
downhill and we need to have touch here.
I felt like I never had that over the last three or four years.
And that has nothing to do with the putter.
That's just me.
I have weak hands.
I have weak forearms.
I need to be putting like a toothpick because I am a toothpick.
So like I needed something that worked for me.
And it felt like I never could switch over to the blade because like it was a tailor-made thing.
It was spiders.
And they're like, dude, we came out with this fucking TP reserve.
You can use that.
It's an amazing putter.
Just like chef for said.
Like you got to earn it in my bag.
what putter I'm going to use.
I think that like you can one, you can kind of never have enough putters because it's
it's like just like in NBA jam.
You kind of just get hot with something from time to time.
And I just, I got to look at something else.
And, you know, anyways, we're going to go to a blade as well and see if I've got any
steel in the tank.
Yeah, I think you'll enjoy it.
My game is at the point where I'll, I'll either have it or I just really won't have it.
And that is, I'll tell you what, it's a place I've never been before.
And it's terrifying.
Like when we shot,
when we filmed the breaking 90 out of Colonial and I topped it on the 18th team,
but I had a chance to do it.
Like my game was just sharp and ready.
And then I'll go out and play nine holes and it'll be like,
it's my first time stepping on a golf course.
It is bizarre.
But I don't know if it's a good sign or a bad sign,
but that just happens to be where I am.
Yeah,
I'm in a place where I don't even really know how to grip the club.
It looks weird when I put it on the ground.
And like I used to do that.
you know the big slap down forward compressed and just send it like low missiles i'm hitting the
ball so terribly it's going all over the place just slapping it you do i mean i played actually what i
i think i shot like 85 but i went i think i went 39 46 on the back the ball went and the only
reason i shot 49 is i hold out from 80 yards i mean i was like it my games i'm it looks it's a foreign
concept at this point and i i don't
The problem is I didn't grow up with it.
So I don't remember really what looks right.
I just know that what I'm looking at right now looks way wrong.
So.
Are you not compressing the ball as much?
Are you still doing it?
No, it's like a wimpy little thing to the right.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
You've changed everything.
Yeah, it's been a mess.
We've got Hayes Oswald trying to call in.
Let's admit him in.
This is a guy with the, he's got a ruptured testicle golf story.
It's going to be on camera.
I don't know if he's on camera.
He's on iPhone.
No camera.
I thought he was going to leave.
There is.
It's Hayes Oswald has joined Foreplay.
He's like, holy shit, am I actually coming on the show?
You are.
I said you're just on it, and you've got a ruptured testicle golf story.
I'd love to hear it.
It's connecting to audio.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Hayes Oswald.
He's got a rupture.
I'm going to say this for the third time, maybe fourth time.
He's got a ruptured testicle golf story, and we want to hear it right now live on this show.
Talk to us while I sit in pain as I listen to this thing.
Okay.
First off.
Trent, fuck Iowa, go big red, go hussars.
Oh, I don't like that.
I don't like that.
No, it's all right, it's all right.
I would do the same with the lawyers.
Now I'm getting, now I get to listen to your ruptured testicle story with a different view.
Hey, Lurch, fuck the Rangers.
I would have shocked, my man.
Absolutely.
Let's hear it.
Back to the testicle place.
At a little nine hole shitty munich course in the middle of Nebraska.
Like it's just open, just open.
There's ground hogs that are like.
like digging holes in the greens and stuff,
but we just needed a cheap place to go.
We were in college.
And so over 100 degrees
in the middle of Nebraska summer, everybody's drinking.
We got people that are getting pissed,
snapping clubs and stuff.
There's a group of six of us.
So we get to around our 13th hole.
And I'm driving our car
and my buddy's next to me.
And there's a lady that our car is facing.
So we're facing this lady that's teeing off
on a different tee box.
and she just shanks the shit out of her drive.
I was watching her the entire time,
and it comes hopping just straight at us,
and our cart has no windshield.
And it nails my buddy right in one of his nuts.
And he gets out of the car just screaming in pain.
I'm laughing so hard.
I almost pissed myself.
My buddy is crying, like tears come out of his eyes,
and the ladies, they drive over to us,
and she is bawling.
Like, she feels so.
bad and he can't even get up so we figured all right we have to take him to the hospital
oh what to see the hospital and they're like all right we got to like put him in one of these
big machines like to see what's wrong with him he comes out like an hour later and he goes yeah his
testicle his testicle exploded oh he does not have one anymore oh what he does not have one anymore
no all right oh the other one scoffrey he still got sick he still got single
Yeah, he's still rockin one, but yeah, he's like, he better work.
I got a question.
I got a question.
I got a question.
So a testicle ruptures.
Oh.
Do you then have to get, does anything have to be removed?
So they said, like, they're going to give them a bunch of painkillers and stuff.
So, I mean, they juiced him up with all these different painkillers.
And then they said once that wears off, like after a couple days, you'll know and you'll be a little sore.
And so after those days wore.
off it like he was really sore but he just got used to it and so I mean it's just like sitting there now like it's
wait I so that's so you you have you have a ruptured testicle for the rest of your life well I mean it's not even ruptured anymore it's just not there yeah they remove it they remove it's just like it's just like loose belly in there
Dead and his scrotum?
Just a loose bag in there.
I'll be honest, I felt stupid asking the question, but now it's a real question.
I don't know how much more I can talk about this.
I really don't.
All right.
So you got, my legs are starting to hurt.
So you got two testicles.
One gets hit by a lady shanks a ball and ruptures your testicle.
And there's no surgery.
You just now have like one jelly testicle.
I don't want to talk about this anymore.
The doctor said it had to hit him with like the most.
precise accuracy to make it pop like that.
And it popped in it, it's just, I don't know what's it.
I don't, I mean, we've asked him like, what's it feel like?
Like, and he's like, I just got one.
What's your buddy's name?
Kyle.
Kyle.
My bad, Kyle, dude.
I'm so sorry.
Yeah, prayers out to Kyle.
I mean, that's a tough day on the golf course for sure.
It's, it's a lesson.
And, you know, it's not the safest place out there.
You got to keep your head on a swivel.
You got to know where.
there's tea boxes, where people are tea enough, I'll for sure be making sure I see every single
tea box that's facing me from now on.
Or I'm going to be wearing a cup out there on the golf course.
I'm going to make the athletic cups a thing on the golf course.
So thank you, Hayes.
We really appreciate it.
I can't even look at you anymore because it's just hurting my legs.
It hurts.
Best of luck to Nebraska this year.
No, no, that's not true.
But thanks for jumping on the show.
Yeah, thanks, brother.
I appreciate you.
That's stunning stuff.
You get what question I'm asking, though?
Yeah, no, you think, you'd think that they'd surgically remove it.
You'd think they'd surgically remove it and maybe, like, cut it off and kind of, it's just one area, you know?
It feels like his buddy Kyle's just been a little sensitive to the whole issue.
Because, like, Hayes doesn't have all the details either.
You know what?
I'll tell you what.
And honestly, why should he?
You know?
No.
This guy got fucking, I disagree.
He got his ball sack smacked by fucking Mrs. Robinson on the left fucking, on the whole fucking three.
and he's like, listen, guys, I got a jelly nut.
It's like, I'm not having these conversations anymore.
There's way more to explain.
There's just way more.
Let me know.
I want to say this though.
At the end of the day, you don't have to worry about this shit that I got going on.
This is my promise.
I mean, he's got to have to check.
Fuck me.
But I will say if that happened to me or it happened to one of my buddies, I would be showing
them.
I'd be like, look at this thing that happened to me.
Come on, that has to be true for some groups.
For sure.
No, I mean, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't hold it back.
You'd see my ball sack from back to time.
Lurch, you guys, I feel like you're a guy who's got a testicle story.
Let's move on, guys.
Oh, wow.
All right.
It's, it hurts.
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Yeah.
Well, just different versions, but these are the Pudamahas.
That was one thing that took away from me when I was just both the same soul.
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I'm also wearing a pretty cool shirt for people who are watching.
Yeah, you don't have to, you know, I don't want to tease it too much, but I mean, this is, this is the, this is the, we've got really big.
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I mean, I'm seeing.
You guys are doing some nice posts around that too.
Yeah.
I'm not really.
I love, I love, no, no, I'm saying we're, we're teasing people.
You've teased them as much as you can tease them.
Yeah, yeah.
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That's a cool little inside iPhone trick.
I got a DM.
It doesn't have to be on the show,
but this is a debate about a hole in one.
I want to get you guys take on it.
He says my,
this is Joey.
Actually, this is Big Rob's brother.
This is part of the Big Rob family.
Love that.
My buddy is not a very good golfer,
probably a 2530 handicap, probably Rob.
And he makes his first hole in one.
He went back to play the front nine.
So here's the story.
He went back to play the front nine again after playing the front nine already given the pace of play was slow on the back.
So basically played nine and then played nine again.
It was his second time playing this hole in a matter of 90 minutes.
And the catch here is that he changed his club from a five to six since the first time he played that hole.
It went 15 yards over the green.
Does this count as a hole in one or is there a massive asterisk?
to risk next to it.
What do you think, think?
My gut says count it.
Why?
That's a really good question.
I'm saying it's just really bad luck.
I don't know that you can count it.
You know, you're playing the same nine back to back.
You're on the know.
You're using prior knowledge on the hole.
You're not playing a full, like you can't register that round, can you?
As like a full 18 into like a USGA app.
Yeah, but how would also be able to complete the scorecard?
You know what I mean?
Right.
You want to have that frame, the one.
He's going to write two scores on the same nine.
Yeah.
But you would count a hole in one if you got it, if you just played nine holes, right?
Yeah, but I would finish the other nine for sure.
You would.
But what if you're running out of daylight?
If you're playing nine holes, you're like, I'm going out there to play nine.
Oh, my gosh, I got a hole in one.
Do I count it?
I'm running out of daylight.
The sun's down.
Yeah.
I think you got to finish.
It's close, though.
Yeah, maybe you've switched me.
Maybe you do count it.
The thing that got me in this, in this debate is that he changed his club from the first time he played to the second time I played because you're getting, you're getting knowledge based off of the hole that you just played.
But it's almost like, no, but what about, what about like if you were to play that hole the next day, you have prior knowledge.
True.
And you would change the club and you would count that one.
True.
Right.
I mean, yeah.
You're switching.
Yeah.
I don't want to be like the gatekeeper of hole in ones here.
It just feels like, you know, you just played the whole 90 minutes.
No, he just played the same nine holes twice and he made a hole in one the second time.
Right.
That would be like saying, what a change of tune there.
Yeah, you know, I thought about it and I was wrong.
It was a real hole.
I feel like I made a pretty good argument.
You did.
The nine holes thing is like you can definitely have a hole in one legit on nine holes.
Yeah, exactly.
And then you were like running out of daylight.
I was like, yeah, I guess I'd count it.
If I played like 12 holes and I got a hole in one,
that's going to be the only one of my lifetime.
I'm counting that.
What's the closest you've been, you think?
Do you have like a time that you remember, a hole that you remember?
No, I put one out of bounds and then I re-teed and I was like an inch away from the
cup.
That would have been a hole in three, which would have been kind of fun.
But I got nothing.
That wouldn't be fun.
I disagree that that would be fun.
Whenever I hit a ball out of bounds on a part three and I re-tee, I give a ball.
less than my best when I'm hitting that ball because I cannot have my hole in one be a par.
Yeah, no, I hear that.
I mean, it would be a real bummer, but like I don't have many holeouts.
Like, I hold out the other day from 80 yards.
I think that's the second time my life.
I pulled out anything off the green and they're both about from the same distance.
I would say I have less than two holeouts.
I have almost none.
Yeah, that was my, I mean, candidly, I don't make many puts except when they're like,
I rarely get the ball in the hole myself.
I've only got a, I have about maybe five eagles of my whole entire life.
And I'd say four of them were putts, like short par five, you get on the green and two.
Yeah.
You make the putt.
You just kind of got lucky.
I got one at Colonial on the seventh hole just recently, actually, ripped the drive.
Second shot went to the back of the green and just made the putt.
Actually, almost made an albatross.
It went right by the hole.
We walked up to it and went right by the hole.
It was like sitting on the back edge of the green.
And we were like, no way that this thing didn't.
give it a scare for an albatross but only one time you may do yeah when we played in a scramble
this past weekend I made it it was all my shots so it was naturally but yeah you did get to watch
you didn't you don't count that you did get to watch other shots but yeah oh I did go first each
time do we count that a natural legal and a scramble I mean what are you counting it for just
that you just like it's not like a whole and one store I don't I don't know Alex that's like
that's a lot to handle yeah
Because the pressure's off you.
You can swing freely.
You can take on more.
I did go first.
He went first every time.
I'd go first every time, if that matters.
I did that in Colorado.
I drove the green and made the putt.
Better question, Alex.
Do you count it out of him?
Oh, he's acting as though it's counted already.
Well, I'd like to hear it out of his point.
I mean, I'm not like keeping track of Eagles like a hole in one.
Oh, because you make so many?
Not at all.
It's not going into score.
If I were you, if I were you as time goes,
on the scramble part is no longer part yeah yeah you get rid of the house it was actually
a best ball tournament it's I would I that counts for me especially if you went first and you're
saying there's no pressure which is true but you should learn from that that's how you should be playing
all the time large disagrees I've only hold out once where Eisenhower red and I forget the
whole maybe like 11 or 12 par four I was with my dad 115 120 yards out just boom went right in
Yeah, I've never had one of those Tom Brady golf shots.
Remember when he's playing in the match and he hit one from the faraway and it spun back in?
That has never happened.
I don't really get much backspin.
I get like the one check and then it kind of stops by where the marking was.
I don't really get that crazy rip.
And I've been hitting the ball pretty well.
I don't even know if I want to try.
It feels like it's a whole new swing and pat to the ball.
That is something I don't even want to deal with.
I'm just starting to take nice divvits.
I'm hitting pure contact.
I feel like I'm getting to the slot.
when I watch these guys, like, be able to attack the back of the greens and know it's ripping back at the green, that's something I do not possess. And it's not even on my radar. Like, you watch these guys and they're like, come back. And you're just like, they know it's coming back. Dude, I will say this. We played Grant Winks for on their Milton 9, 8th hole. I hit a 60 degree wedge that probably came back 12 feet when right in the bottom we got on the Sunday. Whoa. And I got to see the whole thing. It was, it was a good piece.
Play the spin.
Did you hit it beyond the pin?
Dude, what, I mean, who's even?
Right.
I just hit it and sometimes it's not.
Sometimes the little fin goes, I mean, it's luck of the draw for sure.
Was it a down slope?
Like, was it like, you hit it off the slope?
Or was this like pure, like generated?
This was pure generated pretty flat green.
It was definitely a receptive.
So the first bounce, like made a ballmark, you know what I mean?
And it was kind of off a flat lie.
And just literally, I was like, I think that thing is.
coming back at the hole.
That's nice.
And then it just disappeared.
I was like, I just put my hands up.
Took a couple high fives and then on we go.
You really, they disappear pretty quickly.
It is amazing, Frankie, that you can play the golf that you've been playing.
And I've played a lot with you where you're playing so well and spins not even on the
menu.
No.
Like, that's how different it is for the pros where you're playing.
It's a different type of spin.
Like, I'm getting like stop where it lands spin.
I'm not getting like, let's get close to the whole spin.
Right.
It's also, you just never know.
I mean, like, I guess you got drones out there.
So, like, but it's true.
I might be getting it.
You know, you might be getting more spin than you even realize.
But right.
Maybe.
That's right.
Because all this spin we're seeing is on, like, professional, like, towers.
And, like, you're seeing, like, perfectly filmed approach at.
Lurch, I want to get a real quick take from you on this Justin Thomas stuff.
I feel like we got a lot of hate I saw in, like, responses.
and people really like going after us for being like PGA tour shills and and Pee-P suckers and
did we really by just like constantly being unbiased I guess with when it comes to the or
or being biased when it comes to the Justin Thomas um rider cup take um where how do you feel that
like where his game is at and do you think that he should be on the rider cup um
And what was your hard take on it that you're getting so much, I'm so bot?
Well, I guess people think that we're just doing it just because we like Justin Thomas.
And I guess part of that does come into play.
I genuinely am fighting for the fact that no matter how you're playing recently,
what you've done for the Ryder Cup team in recent years should play into effect when you're,
should have an effect when you're being chosen for the.
the team. Like, that shouldn't just be tossed aside. And the argument's like, well, if you put him in
just because of how he's played, what are you saying to like Kalamorakawa who's going to be like the
one man, odd man out, who's playing way better than JT if you go through all the metrics and all of his
finishes and the amount of cuts that he's made compared to JT. And like, I just think that regardless,
unless he's fallen off the planet, which I don't think he has, which I guess that's where they're
saying I'm wrong. Yeah, it's been pretty close. He's been pretty bad. But, but we've talked about
this on the show too where if you look at the rounds the birdies and stuff are still there it's the
it's the big numbers like a nine right no i mean it's been bad i mean he's entering the window i'm
hoping to pull a big three out of that and then you know he played the three m we love the three m but he
played in the three m and missed the cut but like that was hard that was hard i i just think he finished
like 17th in the windom and like he he just needed to hole out on the last hole to like make the
playoffs i feel like everyone thinks he played horrifically at the wind him he's still
Got his game is what I'm saying.
It's not like it's not like it's been three or four years.
The Ricky Fowler like, oh, we haven't even seen this guy on a leaderboard in the last three years.
Like it's Justin Thomas is still there.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think he's certainly like well within discussion.
Yeah, and I was riding him down the window because I think he made birdie on 15 and I had him top 10.
And then he bogeed 16 and then maybe maybe birdie and then just I think he made par to close.
And that was a devastating one.
So I was, I'm riding the JD train, but I think that he is, you know, it was obviously another loss for me.
The amount that I gave the Marshall Sportsbook on just a weekly basis is, it would make a man cry.
It's almost made me cry.
But anyways, I think that.
We can talk about more of those losses now, by the way.
We're in a different world.
I don't know if you've seen the news the last two days, but it's, I mean, I didn't know if you already got into that.
I assume you not.
We did.
I mean.
What do you think about it?
Well, real quickly, real quickly.
I know.
I know.
We're going to get into that because we did.
We were talking about how he's like the greatest business mind of all time somehow out of a guy that just gave newspapers out in the financial.
Between him and is there.
It's crazy.
What,
where do you fall on the JT stuff officially?
I think,
so I think he should be in the discussion,
but by no means is he a lot.
Right.
And.
So a 16 and like three Ryder Cup and President's Cup record doesn't come into account when like this guy doesn't need to make,
Riggs made a great point.
He doesn't need to make a perfect score on every single whole.
he can make his nine because he's got a partner out there.
But if he's making five or six birdies on a front nine,
that's a guy I want as a part of match play.
And I should be able to stack him against other guys
that aren't as,
that aren't performing as well in those types of match play settings.
I agree with you.
I think what I would lean on if I was, you know, the captain,
and, you know, I was a boy from Iowa
and I was trying to figure out what's what.
I would say that, like, I would lean on how does he fit in the locker?
Because, like, he and Tiger were best buddies.
Tiger is not on this team.
And I would just be interested in know, like, all those relationships.
And if he makes it more fun, because if there's one thing I would love to see out of this team is just a little bit more jovial behavior and, like, don't be robots.
It's a Kevin Kisner argument.
Well, it is, but it is.
But it also.
This is where Rigsie went.
Rigsie Redcoat.
He did have those intangibles at Whistling.
He was shotgun and beers on the first hole.
Yeah.
For sure.
No, I actually think.
But if that's the collective, like, thought amongst all the other players, I'm totally supportive of it.
I've been on the team.
And I do believe, like, you know, with golf, like, you play certain courses, you gain confidence.
You play in certain tournaments.
You gain confidence.
And, like, clearly he's got a ton of confidence in the Ryder Cup.
And I don't think that that can be, like, underestimated either.
So, I mean, the guys that are from 10 to 14, you've got Keegan Bradley, Kalamorikowocawa, Sam Burns, Ricky Fowler, Justin Thomas.
It's like I get that there's going to be a couple guys out of next.
Who are you leaving off?
Get nasty.
Who are you leaving off?
Say the name again?
Keegan Bradley.
I'm leaving off Sam Burns.
I'll go first.
I'm leaving off Sam Burns and probably not probably Keegan Bradley.
Hold on, but you named five people.
You got four spots, right?
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you only need one.
Hold on.
Stop.
You've got the 10 spot.
You might have five spots.
You have 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 14.
Yeah.
That's five spots
You messes me up when you start with
Yeah
Messes me up
So all those people are getting
The number 10
Well no
No because
Six are locked in right now
Right
It's 12 overall
Is it not?
It is
Right
It's 12 overall
So two guys out of those five
Two out of those five
Are not going to be on the team
Right?
Okay
Essentially is what I'm saying
Yeah
All right
So
I'm like
I'm a huge
Kigi guy
We all are
We all are
We all are.
We all are.
Don't put us in a corner.
You got to make tough decisions.
I'm a big Justin Thomas guy too for the United States of America.
He has proven to bring back dubs.
That's just a fact.
You know?
It's just a fact.
God,
I'd love for Keegan to be on that team, though.
After we talked to him when he was on this show and he was like, man,
I had to completely change who I am as a person and the type of game that I play
and all of these things.
Like I have to make sure that I completely change my game in this part of my life.
And now this guy's going to be on the Ryder Cup.
I'd love to see that guy play on the Ryder Cup.
I'd love to see Colin Morikau on the Ryder Cup.
Sam Burns, I think I could probably put him on the side.
I like Sam Burns.
He keeps cutting his hair.
He's changing his hairstyle like crazy.
I don't really have any allegiance to him like when it comes to the Ryder Cup team, though.
I can probably keep him off.
He's a great guy.
What do you got to say, Alex?
There's six captain picks.
Six captain picks.
Yeah.
You were counting four.
Right.
Right.
It's 12 total after the first.
six, right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I'm unlocking in seven through nine. I mean, obviously Homa, Cam Young, Jordan, Spieth. Those are all locks to me. You're not leaving any one of those guys off. You're smiling. You're splitting hairs with all these people. I mean, good God. I mean, even the guys behind Justin Thomas, like Tony Fee now is 19th. Like, that guy's not even getting looked at now. That's crazy. That's crazy. Right. Good problems to have. Yeah. It is good problems to have. But, you know, you know, Denny McCart.
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that's fucking fantastic stuff that's coming out of barstle sports
i mean i could bet if there's like 52 cards in a deck i could take 51 of them
and pound that bet and it would lose it would be the ace of diamonds that i miss
he has the best outcomes with regards of trades and business dealings of all i mean from what
i can tell basically penn just gave it back to him and said if you ever sell it will take
50% of the proceeds with it sells but if not it's yours
And just three years ago, we gave you a half a billion dollars for this thing.
My brain explodes with how good of success that is.
I can't even explain.
It doesn't physically, it doesn't make sense.
And then I'm looking just on the stock market.
Penn stocks up.
I'm like, how does that work?
I know whatever.
They got to deal with you, whatever.
They just lost $500 million a couple years ago.
Is everybody cool, which is gambling losses are overcoming?
I don't understand.
I will say, power to Dave Pointeoring, excellent.
I mean, just excellent.
Excellent.
And, you know, we started the show also, we started the show saying that we do, you know,
everyone's happy from this deal.
Penn is getting ESPN bet.
We are all stakeholders in Penn still.
I mean, I'm still riding that thing high.
I've had it from the beginning.
Dave has a bunch of Penn.
Dave has a bunch.
You know, we're all still hoping for all that success.
I do think, I mean, ESPN's like the worldwide leader in sports.
I think that people are seeing that there's a lot that they can do there.
I saw Ravel talking about like one tap bets that they can possibly go into where like if you're watching a game that ESPN has rights to.
I mean, they have to be.
And if it's on your screen.
If it's on your screen.
The betting leader to start.
If it's on your screen and you're watching the game and you can just be like done like you don't have to exit the app, that's like game changing shit.
If they can figure that out, wow.
You're going to have to put me in a straight jacket.
I'm going to lose so much damn money on this thing.
If I watch a sports game, I should legit.
I did him or be in a straight jacket.
So, I mean, it's, it's a, it's a wild world.
But yeah, more power to Dave Portnoy.
My gosh.
Can that can that he just make moves?
I said just like, you're not prepared to go into those types of negotiations
where you're selling major half a billion dollar companies until you're just like in
those meetings.
And somehow, some way this guy just like is successful in all of them.
I don't get it.
He's born with it, I guess.
Big time.
He didn't go into any class.
where someone's like, hey, one day you're going to own a company that's like publicly traded
and you're going to sell it for this amount of money.
You're going to buy a house all over.
And then you're going to get it back because I don't even know if the book's been written on
that move.
I don't even know if it's been written on that move.
Couldn't ever anymore.
I don't know what you guys have discussed on it.
I was talking actually, Isner, it was like, I wish it was on the water cooler, you
know, an announcement that big being on the water cooler.
But talk about just like a guy sticking to your guns, doing what he's wanted to do.
this all is paid out him sticking to his guns with ESPN and all this stuff and then and I don't know all the details but basically being like we're not working with that guy and then he gets everything back that he wants because he's basically just stayed steady on his course is it's something of a whole hard to believe it's hard to believe it's it is if you couldn't write that story and be like now that will happen like don't physically can't happen they just gave you 500 million dollars three years ago right I said to Frankie it's a February they really gave you
I said Frankie is like four months.
I said it's in the years of COVID, which everything's forgotten.
Sorry.
It's just like, it's like he got $500 million.
Everybody moved on three years and we're in the same place where we started.
It's like, yeah, it's insane.
More, even more so, he's never owned 100% for the last 10 years.
He's churned and had.
It's like, this is the first time he's been sole owner.
Since like 2015.
He was eating baguettes in Milton.
No, he's an impressive motherfucker.
The most impressive.
Yeah, fuck.
Mincy's back.
The whole deal is unbelievable.
It's crazy.
What were you going to say?
Tito?
I kept cutting you off.
No, it didn't matter.
No, it's fine.
It didn't matter.
We wanted to hear your thoughts on it.
No, no.
Let's watch the weather come in.
Come on.
Tell him.
It's something I had already said.
I haven't eaten today.
Me either.
It's not going to say it because I already said it earlier.
I'll say it again.
I was saying it's a one in however high numbers go story.
Because there is no other one.
It's a true unicorn.
How much are you eating these days, Lurch?
I'm eating a good amount.
Actually, I went out with...
So, couldn't agree more.
I don't...
To physically, I don't understand how five...
It's just, it's amazing.
Oh, dude, wait.
Hold on.
Hold on.
You went to a Taylor Swift concert with Max Homa.
Oh, yeah.
I sure did.
Let's hear about what I...
And Josh Hizner.
Yeah, quick story about what I'm eating.
I went out with Josh Nurney last night,
the pirate from the golf trips.
And...
Oh, yeah.
Oh, I saw the pirate.
I saw the pirate in the streets of Boston after my wedding.
I was like up there with like a family trip and he was stumbling down the street.
I'm not drunk just like coming back from a pizza place with a pizza pie and he goes,
Brage!
I was like, oh shit.
He's like, oh shit out of me in the middle of the street.
He's like, yeah, I live right here.
I'm like, all right.
He's like, see you at Pebble.
I was like, all right.
He's one of the all-time characters.
We're having dinner last night.
And he was like talking about his brothers.
And he was like, oh, yeah, you know, this one's like, he keeps to himself pretty good.
So we don't talk much.
I'm like, Ernie, you keep to yourself.
Like, there's just never any words exchanged.
ever.
Anyway, so we got an 8.30 dinner last night.
I'm like, I don't know if this is going to happen, working, whatever.
And so at about 6 p.m., I just stuffed the ribon, just ripped one.
And then I went out with the dinner with out.
Like it's a piece of bread.
Yeah, just started dinner all over again.
And like there was apps all over the table.
There was dairy everywhere.
Then we had two more stakes on top of that.
So anyways, the eating habits are just three.
the moon.
As successful as Dave Portner and honestly to eating habits.
But the concert, Taylor Swift is...
Woof.
She's a showwoman.
I mean, she knows how to put on the whole production.
Your seats were insane.
You didn't even have seats.
You were just first row standing.
I didn't...
It's hard to even put it into words how fun of an experience it was.
Because I'm a Taylor Swift, like, radio fan.
You know, I know her songs from that level, but like,
Sure.
I'm not a crazy, crazy
Swifty.
That's probably going to upset
everybody for how close.
Alex Bush is sitting here.
He's like feverishly typing.
He probably your,
yeah,
the notes started to come a little bit louder.
I could hear the keyboard.
Yeah,
he's angry.
This guy is thinking about,
he's the biggest,
you're the biggest Swifty of all time.
Hearing that someone else had that experience is going to make him feel a little
uncomfortable.
He's thinking about flying to Amsterdam.
Yeah,
I want to go to Paris.
No,
this guy's a real deal.
So go on.
I just want you,
I want you to know the guy behind the,
behind the camera right now.
Because I said that ego wasn't true.
Yeah, no, I get it.
This is about to be a lot for him to take.
Anyways, it was it was Josh, Connor, Trias.
Yeah, just the best.
And then Max and I, it was an unbelievable time.
Somehow we separated girls and guys on the way over there.
We're just kind of.
Your outfit was insane.
You wore fucking flip-flops to the tailored slipcoft.
And maybe a medium shirt.
Who wears, who has their toes out like that?
Like it's just with chinos too
With chino
You looked
You looked outrageous
You didn't know he had to go to a concert that day
Looked like a Halloween costume
Yeah no
When I looked back at it
It feels like I could have done some more colors in there
Like it felt
It felt a little off
It was so bland
Yeah
Incredibly bland
When I look back
I'm like
This is a shocker of how bland it is
So
Anyways
My girlfriend's a big Swifty
So I was like
Let's
I don't have a Swift shirt
Will you go get me
a Swift shirt before the show.
She didn't, but she
made that shirt. Unbelievable
shirt. So it's got the little
you know, it's got these things
on my, on part of the shirt
that says, Lurches
a Swifty, but the L fell off.
So it's like Lerge is a wifty or something like that
or the S fellow. Yeah, it was, I mean
it was phenomenal. Her ability to
her team's ability, build stages,
come out, go back in, another
performance. The place is
going bonkers.
You'll never hear another crowd like that.
When I was at MetLife, I said I'll never be around 100,000 people that are going as
crazy as that for the rest of my life.
It'd be a physical impossibility.
I thought I love excitement, energy the whole bit.
At one point I thought I was like, it's almost too loud.
It's almost too loud.
That's so cool to hear it from her vantage point because you were literally three people
away from her.
I can't imagine.
Like, how does she even perform with it being that loud?
I have no, honestly, I have no idea.
And how incredible is it that she can go on for the three hours without a break and just fucking rip, man?
Every night across the world, she doesn't lose her voice, she doesn't get tired, she doesn't, she doesn't have like a stomach ache.
Like, nothing's wrong.
It's crazy to me.
I had to still in the toilet for like three hours yesterday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is, she's a performer, man.
She's unbelievable.
She's also just a complete rocket up there.
I mean, beautiful.
Anybody else talking about dominant?
She's definitely different from walking the streets to stepping on that stage.
Like, she really brings it.
The outfits, the whole deal.
She's a fucking, she's a superstar.
She was, actually, this is a shocker, but you know the world of Connor.
So he's a little bit of loose.
So Connor's one of the guys that I was on the, at the Taylor Swift show with.
And I guess he was in New York.
maybe when you were at the MetLife show.
And he's staying in a nice hotel.
I think he's his wife and maybe they're there for some event.
Anyways, he's riding the elevator up.
The girl gets on, goes, you're tall.
And he was like, thanks.
What's your name?
And the girl was like, Taylor.
And he goes, no shit.
That's my brother's name.
And got off and his wife was right there.
And then the elevator went up.
And his wife was like, what?
And he was like, what?
And she was like, that's Taylor Swift.
And he had, he had no idea.
What?
No idea.
I fucking love that.
I love that.
Oh, shit, that's my brother's day.
It's like, it's like, it's like faded into the night.
What?
No way.
Connor is one of a billion type people.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
No security is insane.
I mean, I mean, knowing Connor, they were probably already in.
like the penthouse he probably would going up like from the kitchen to the fucking living
room so i mean i'm sure i don't think you needed much security yeah i can't believe she's ever alone
right right wow yeah wait when the wife was in the elevator with him and she no it's just like
waiting like on the floor or whatever and like i don't know and then the elevator continued on
i think that's kind of how it went because well i just love his comment oh shit it's my brother's
name and just like nothing talking to the biggest superstar on planet earth right now right
She's got 32 billion followers.
You're the only person that doesn't know who she is.
I mean.
And for the record, Taylor's right.
Connor is incredibly tall.
He's huge.
He's so big.
Massive.
That's unreal.
Yeah.
What else is going on?
Anyways, it was a show, man.
That place, and I will say that SoFi Stadium is incredible out there in L.A.
I don't know if you two have ever been.
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Anyways, how are you boys?
See?
Everything good?
Things are all right.
Love that.
Yeah.
I mean, I mean like shit too constantly.
This guy's actually been, listen to this.
He's cut out sugar and now he's working out when we're on the road.
He goes to the gym in the hotel.
I've heard rumors of this and some like, you know,
some clips here and there.
I'm still like, I still want to see a picture of you and your boxers with like your shirt
off and see if it's just that pathetic muscle that's.
always surrounded your body. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely tighter. It's just, I'm like super thin
now, I feel like, you know, like there's really not much to it. So the struggle's been now to put
like actual real weight on. Because if I eat like a piece of shit, which I did for a long time
during COVID, I was a real piece of shit during COVID. I was just getting like bad weight,
like the little cum tube around the belly and like the floppy tits and you look at me from the
side and it was like whoa like i don't know maybe one or two months pregnant like a weird belly
and now it's just like thin so it's like how do we get that fucking muscle mass on i don't even know
if i'm capable of doing it i heard you have francis told me you have to eat like it's a tool
food is a tool that makes sense and where it's like you're like you're almost eating so much that
it makes you want to not eat anymore like if i want to actually put on like true real weight and i
don't like the thought of that you're meant to be thin
Yeah, I like waiting for my meals
Like I like waiting for my meals and like enjoying them
I don't want to start fucking eating chicken from like one o'clock in the afternoon
Until fucking 9 o'clock in night
It's not gonna be fun
Shove in a rib eye at 5 or 6 p.m. before dinner
Yeah, you've made it as a tool
It's like a fucking power drill for you
Dude, I fucking jackhammer
I went to uh
I don't know if I told you this
I went to the doctor for the first time in like 10, 12 years
I think you had that
I think you talked talk
That about that in the last show yeah
I think everything was a clean bill of health, right?
Yeah, clean, I mean, on that first blood test, the second blood test that came back with kind of everything was pretty much clean.
The only things that would be better is if I would just be less sedimentary move a little bit more.
But yeah, for the most part, pretty clean bill of help, which I was happy with.
264, though, you know what I mean?
Not nothing.
Oh, I'm right there, probably higher.
Dude, those inclined walks on the treadmill are like, you could do it for like 10 minutes, and I think that's like all you need.
I mean those are hard
The stair master I will say
If you don't use hands on the stairmaster
That thing is going to grind you into the ground
If you're not using hands to keep yourself up
And you're just using legs
That's when you know
You're testing your physical limits
Because if you're on there for a half hour
You are in a world of hurt
The big thing
The big thing on TikTok is with the incline walking
Is 30 minutes 12
12 incline
12 degree 12 degree
at three miles per hour.
That's like supposed to be the magic workout.
30 minutes.
Yep.
At 12 degrees.
At 12 degrees.
At 12 degrees up there, man.
Dude, I tried to do it.
I lasted two and a half minutes.
Francis had me on 14 incline at five miles an hour.
For how long?
For like six minutes to start the workout.
Yeah.
And I looked at him.
I'm like, it's over.
The workout's over.
Right?
Like he's like, all right.
He goes, that was a great.
That's a good start.
You got the heart pumping.
Good warm up.
Yeah.
He's like calling me pathetic and shit.
Yeah, I, the workouts we used to do is like high school, college, I can't, I'm not, no.
I mean, I'm looking at myself.
There's the building I live in, the elevator's got all meters around it.
So sometimes I just catch a side profile myself.
My gut's just out there.
You're just like, I'm brushing my teeth.
My left pit is jiggling.
I am in a horrible state right now.
I mean, it has to get back.
I do think if you
Speaking of like football or like high school sports
If I put all the pads on that I put on when I was in high school and just ran out to the field
To get to the practice field, I think that'd be about as much as I can do
I'm I'm so out of shape and so fat that I just can't do anything
You know what I mean
So anyways
We moved into a new like a new building
And now these buildings have all these amenities.
Some are stupid, some are helpful.
Anyways, ours has a golf simulator, which is a sweet.
Saturday morning, I take my clubs down there.
I'm just like, I'm going to go hit a few balls.
I'm down there for 15 minutes, maybe, maybe 20.
I come back and I got beads of sweat all over me.
And my girlfriend's like, what did you did?
What do I'm just like?
I was like, I just hit a few balls.
She's like, it's that difficult?
And I was like,
it's over
I mean
horrible
dude it's all horrible
I mean
I'm hot right now
in the ACs in 70
it's just because I'm talking a lot
it's like
life's hard
I went to that Tyler Chiller's concert
at radio city music oh yeah
awesome
I was great
oh dude it was so good
but I got an Uber up
to the radio city music hall
and they dropped me off like
half a block away from the venue
no no no all the way
all the way
and at a certain point
I just gave up
because I wanted to get
there and I walked the half a block into Radio City Music Hall.
We were on the second mezzanine.
So I had to walk up a couple of flights of stairs.
I sweated for pretty much the whole concert.
I never stopped sweating.
And I was just, I'm wiping sweat from my brow as he's playing the encore.
I'm like, when am I going to stop sweating?
I didn't walk that far.
I was, it was hot out, but my body can't do anything anymore.
So I'm still getting these fucking messages of, uh,
I don't know why I'm laughing at this.
It's just horrible.
This guy Dustin goes,
I'm an assistant superintendent at a golf course and had to do CPR and an old man that had a heart attack.
And I wrote,
Did he survive?
And he just wrote,
Nope.
Oh.
And I wrote,
Sheesh.
And he goes,
Yep.
That's it?
You want to share that?
I mean,
does he need to be sent to the police?
I think that's a HIPAA violation.
And he just goes,
then the EMT ran over a green leaving in the ambulance.
Dude.
It's a lot.
The most
I'll post it later
The most horrific thing that I think's ever happened
In terms of fallout
So have you guys ever seen the video of when Messier
Hit Madonna at Center Ice?
Yeah. No.
And then Madonna's getting carted off.
Is that when they dropped them?
Yes, dude.
Yeah, that's a nightmare.
That is like, I still go back to that
And think like that with the Polkorea,
they're both tomato tomato.
it's just as bad as it gets.
Yeah.
A couple,
those are two really dark stories
right in a row from,
from our guys.
Well,
I mean,
that's from the King of Darkness,
though.
That's right on brand.
True.
I've got,
I just want this one guy to call
and he has a pretty interesting story
and he hasn't read my,
uh,
my request to have him come on,
but he says,
my wedding ring is currently underneath the Payne Stewart statue at
Pinehurst,
North Carolina.
Would love to tell that story.
Wow,
what a tease.
You know?
Big tease.
Such a tease.
why is that thing under there?
Did he put it up and it got caught and they just had to...
I need to know.
Right, that's all I can go.
I just wrote in now.
He just won't read it.
Come on, buddy.
Frank, guess we'll all be on Monday.
Hmm.
Where?
Never guessed.
You remember I told you last time I'm going to Long Island,
I'm playing Cherry Valley Club.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, for a fundraiser.
We're doing it for, I think it's called Council 1869.
So anyways, they'll be there Monday.
Cherry Valley?
Cherry Valley?
Cherry Valley, Cherry Valley.
That place is great.
Staying at the, you know, Marriott right there, ready to plug.
Wow.
Don't put one on the road on the first hole.
It's possible.
It's very possible.
It's right there.
Is it?
Yep.
Oh, the right side.
Yeah, I wouldn't even hit a driver.
I wouldn't hit a driver.
You're just going to take like a nice driving iron or like a five iron.
You're going to hit a beautiful country club like iron right in front of the green.
And you're going to have a nice wedge in.
It's a great first hole.
It's like $2.90.
It's a very short hole.
Oh, nice.
Make it a little easy.
Oh, I'm definitely going to pull driver there, like a schmuck and hit it right at it.
I mean, actually, I know, it's a luck of a draw in terms of good shot, bad shot.
You might as well just risk it and want it.
You can get there is my take.
Yeah.
Actually, pretty sad story.
A real sad story involving Cherry Valley.
They lost, like, one of their incredible members, James Mastoglio, James Mastoglio.
We actually worked with him a little bit when we did behind the greens and a lot of the Barso classics.
He, yeah, man, he just, he just passed away.
I'm not sure what the specifics are, but just absolutely heart wrenching to read that news.
And I saw some people put stuff stuff on Instagram in the last couple days.
Just like one of those country club, like presidents that were like was there and like cared about his club more than anyone or anything in the world.
Couldn't be happier about having us film the restoration at Cherry Valley.
He was so excited.
It was like his baby to like knock down this tree.
and be able to build the fairway around it and his like passion for golf and like and member
guests and all that stuff he was just like the biggest man tallest guy and loudest voice and yeah that
was um i only have like really really fond memories of going to cherry valley and and seeing james there so i
just wanted to give him a show him and his family a shout out that uh you know thoughts and prayers
with them and the whole cherry valley family because that's uh that's a hard one to swallow for sure
super young.
It sure is. Nice of you.
How old was he?
Oh, I think in his 40s, like young, early 40s.
So, yeah, just absolute, absolute, just horrible, horrible thing to hear and see.
And, yeah, just, I've been thinking about them for a while.
And I meant to, I want to go there and actually, like, you know, speak to those guys and see how they're all doing.
Because, you know, we've been really tight with Cherry Valley over the years.
We used to go there quite a bit.
I know you've taken some items up there, too.
That used to be your place before.
That was my place.
I'd play there.
10 to 15 times the summer and during the fall, during COVID they were huge for us where like we were just take ripped carts out there and we just kind of had the course to ourselves.
And we've had two bars to classics there, maybe even three.
Yeah, just a really great place.
And, you know, we're definitely going to miss James.
That's a tough one.
That's a really, really tough one.
So, but I do want to talk to before we end here, JP is on Zoom.
Is this Pinehurst guy?
This is, yeah, Pinehurst guy.
Get him on here.
So I think this is the story behind this is that he says that he has a ring underneath the Payne Stewart statue.
There he is.
Holy shit.
Connecting to audio.
Connecting to audio.
JP.
What's up?
What's up, brother?
You got the story about a wedding ring underneath the Payne Stewart statue.
Talk to us real quickly about what's going on with that because we've been trying to guess.
We can't even imagine what that story is.
All right.
So to start off, yes.
still married so that clears things up so uh this past december my uh wife and i we got married in pinehurst
and me and my buddies were all big golf fans and stuff so like two days before we went down and played
some courses and uh in my mind i always wanted to leave like a piece of our wedding still in pinehurst
so my master plan was i got this uh cheap wedding ring off of amazon it was like 10 15 bucks and uh so that was
the wedding ring she put on my finger the day we got married and that night my uh groomsman and i
we concocted a plan uh our house we were staying in was probably like 500 yards from finehurst number
two the clubhouse and stuff and uh right yeah yeah we passed riggs's house and stuff many of times
walking back and forth and uh so that night after everybody got back and stuff we uh took my ring and like me
and four or five of my buddies.
We went out to the statue and put it right underneath Payne Stort's feet.
We tucked it in real nice and neat.
And made sure everything was clean when we got done and we tiptoed right on out.
We got a video and everything.
We took a selfie with Paynstort.
And yeah, so my winning ring is currently, hopefully, I mean, if they cut the bra.
It's gone.
It's gone.
It's gone.
In this podcast airs, it's gone.
How do we feel about this move?
Do we think?
We're encroaching on vandalism, I think.
Yeah, I think it's slightly.
The joke is now, so my buddy, he's got a,
he actually met his girlfriend at my wedding,
and it's kind of like I'm trying to challenge him to one it up,
one up behind her.
So like when he gets married,
where does he bury his ring?
And I think there's only one plausible answer.
Then you get arrested.
You're about to get arrested.
Yeah, you're, you're flying a little clue over.
We're about, we might citizens around.
You're flying a little too close to the sun with this memory stuff.
Listen, I think it's coming from a really good place.
You're trying to like honor a golf icon and a location that is near and dear to your heart so much so that the ring that your wife put on your finger you want to have buried in the earth at your favorite place.
So don't get me wrong.
I don't think Trent either.
It's not coming from a bad place when I say I think you're insane.
But I think that we're approaching insanity at some point.
if you and your buddies keep digging out the earth and putting your your symbols of love
beneath them.
I think the most iconic places in golf.
My thing is, I think it's a great idea.
Would I have come on the biggest golf podcast in the world and said it?
I don't know.
But I do think it's coming from a good place.
Like I think it those are awesome stories like with your buddies for sure.
Like oh, every time they're a pioneers or every time you see like the U.S.
Open is going to be a pioneers next year.
They're going to show that statue a bazillion times.
You could be like every time you're like, hey, my wedding ring is under there.
I think that's pretty cool.
I really do.
So my wife lives probably 25, 30 minutes from Pinehurst.
And every time we go visit her family and we're kind of near the area, I'll start like patting my waist and pockets and stuff.
And I go, shit, I've lost my wedding ring.
I got to go find my wedding ring.
No, it's a very, I like it.
It's a very cool story.
But again, I think that ring, this podcast is out now with people listening to it.
That's right.
That thing's gone.
I think it's gone.
had $15 on Amazon.
It's a good, I like it, though.
It's a good story.
Ashley's like, got like 16 guys.
Metal detectors out there.
That thing's gone.
Well, we appreciate the call, JP.
Thanks for that.
Obviously, you have a love for the game.
So I don't think it came from a bad place.
But yeah, I don't know if it's going to be there for very long.
We'll get, we'll get confirmation if it's still there.
I'm sure we'll hear from someone from Pioneers being like, well, yeah.
My name's not JP.
Okay.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling in, man.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
Appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
Oh, man.
That's, yeah, we've seen.
That's, that's, that's pretty funny.
That's a wild, uh, it's a wild move.
There's no to know.
You might be arrested soon.
I mean, he pulled it up the, I felt a little nervous.
I felt a little nervous that his face was on there.
But, uh, it's, it's, it's, yeah.
It's, it's, you didn't mess around.
Like, if he didn't mess with the statue.
It's like in front of it.
So it's like, just dirt.
I mean, you could just take it in the middle of the fairway and, like, dig a little
hole and slide it under the grass and pat it back down.
You do that anywhere.
Yeah, that's not bad.
I saw.
I, I, I really,
like if you did that in the old course,
nobody would ever find it nor care,
I don't think honestly.
I saw an article.
No,
I know.
I didn't,
I didn't read the article,
but it was,
it was,
they were discussing,
you know,
headline guy,
not a,
not a full paragraph guy.
It was like the,
they were discussing the legality of spreading a loved one's ashes
on a golf course.
That you could do,
I think.
Yeah,
that just blows away in a win.
What's wrong with that?
Yeah.
I mean,
again,
I didn't read the article,
so I don't know what the arguments were,
being made but I can see I could see people like being weirded out that someone's ashes have been
spread across the golf course that they're walking on like you don't you know if you're not like
would you feel weird about it no I mean maybe if I like accidentally walked right over the spot
after they just did it I'd be like Jesus well that would be I'm I actually think I think that's pretty
cool I think it's cool yeah I mean there's got to be a place there's got to be like a like an area
You can't just start spreading it across the green, right?
What do you think about that?
I mean, it starts to be coming out of control, right?
Like you're spreading grandpa across the third green.
It's like I'm, I'm down there.
I'm fucking putting my ball down.
I'm licking my fingers and shit.
Like, like I'm fucking, you know, I don't want any of grandpa's ashes inside my body.
I can't have it affecting my line.
I'm saying.
I'm talking about it getting weird.
I think people have one, see what I'm saying?
One sprinkle.
Yeah.
You hope.
It's gone.
You hope.
Dude, it's gone.
It's still there.
It's fine.
Think about all the effed up shit that's been in your body.
You didn't even know.
Somehow it got there.
You want,
you want Grandpa Reynolds's,
uh,
whoever ends up getting spread across there?
You might have slapped hands with Trent.
He just itched his ass.
Now you got your ass bottle.
That's true.
In your mouth.
And I don't think people are not like pouring.
It wouldn't put it right on the green where it's like,
clearly something happened.
You're just like on a T-box,
throw it up in the air.
And then,
and it's over.
Do it in the rough.
Oh, come on.
Fairway.
Fairway.
Up in the air towards.
I'm totally cool with it.
You're cool with it too, Frankie.
You're making an argument about nothing.
You're cool with it.
I think the green's too much.
Nobody would put it on the green.
Okay.
I think it's fairway.
I mean, you just kind of,
hey, this dad's favorite green.
You got a sifter out there.
You're just sifting it around the green?
Yeah.
I like the idea of it, though.
It's cool.
Yeah, where would you want your ashes to be...
I want to be catapult into space, frozen.
Just...
That's scary.
Have me collide with the web satellite.
Yeah.
Imagine that news comes out.
Massive, massive human hurtling towards our $10 billion, $100 billion telescope.
And lurches just like this.
Dude, I'll be honest.
When we started the conversation, I thought you meant your ashes out there.
You know, his whole body.
Yeah.
Just me.
Just a fucking, just a fucking, like, big hot dog.
Just like, oh.
You're just slamming into the James Webb telescope.
It's like the, uh, a doctor.
That would go into that of me.
A doctor evil spaceship.
It just looks like a big penis.
That's what I was thinking of.
The big boy.
The big boy.
They shoot the big boy up there.
Oh, fuck.
That's so funny.
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Aliens are here, Frank,
officially. Yeah, they are. And we're just
like ignoring it. Nobody cares.
Dude, that means to me something
big is about to happen. If they're telling the public
they're like, they're here. Oh.
So I've already talked
This is a five year plan.
I already
Next like six months.
No,
no,
it's a five year plan
and we might be like
three or four years
into it for sure.
But like we've been seeing
the writings on the wall
so much that when they officially be like,
hey,
they're here and it's over,
but we gave you guys
more than enough notice.
Like we've gotten enough notice at this point.
Like no one can be like
sitting around the dinner.
Be on like,
can you believe they kept this from us?
The world's about to end next month.
They're going to be like,
no, bitch.
We had a,
fucking public court hearing where we said they're here.
Right.
It's like you're slowly acclimating the public to the idea that aliens exist.
And where first you start, you fund a bunch of alien movies in Hollywood.
And people are like, oh, maybe there are aliens out there.
And then you slowly start to leak.
You know, there's some documents that come out when Trump is president.
He's like, yeah, here you go.
Here's some alien files.
And now they are.
They're in front of Congress.
So they're slowly telling you that they're going to be here.
and like you're saying in a year and a half
they might just be here.
Oh yeah.
They're going to be in our school.
They're going to be hanging.
Yeah.
They might be like are they hanging already?
Probably.
It's wild.
And I like talk about the world just turning,
just the next thing happens.
Nobody's doing anything different about it.
I mean,
so I think the general public awareness is like,
yeah,
we kind of believe that all right.
You know what I mean?
Which is insane.
Because no one's believed that aliens are here.
General consensus has never been that aliens are
real like we always thought that it'd be like a movie like scene where the president would come on
the screen and say aliens are real and the whole world would go insane instead it was on the c w at like
11 o'clock in the morning and no one gave a fuck they were they were like we have bodies from the
yeah like the crash yeah it was like what's like do you have the pilots you're saying you have
like the hardware the pilots and it was like there is like human care there's like i don't know
living terroristics that we do it.
Some like line.
Yeah.
Those are,
that's nail.
He kept saying like,
yeah,
non-human entities were controlling the,
the,
aircraft.
It was something like that.
Yeah,
exactly.
And they're like,
all right.
And I just,
I just kept scrolling.
I just kept scrolling on Twitter.
I was like,
someone wrote like what they taste like.
You know,
let's fucking eat them.
Let's eat those things.
Maybe they're tasty.
It is.
You're right in the fact that you're like,
yep,
got the news.
kind of like knew it you just went to the next thing because it was almost just too much to process
like frank and alien like he's got a weird body type she i might be i feel like i'm i feel like one
today my brain felt like it was alien form where i just couldn't get the radio to work we did barcer
radio today and i just couldn't get the audio to work i'm like why am i we got out of this world
you know maybe this whole thing wasn't so good you know just i'm back in this fucking radio studio
and i can't get the audio to work my heart is racing in my throat
wrote just bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo i'm getting text hey dave's audio's not working he's on
you he's on you got 22 000 he's audio's not working i'm like fuck you i just want to nip a wedge next
to a pin you know that's all i'm here for now i'm here to nip wedges
fuck i think we've been going too long how long we've been going uh about an hour 40
wow not bad for the boys you know not much to talk about good little ketchup old times
Yeah
Not much happened in the golf world
I mean fuck
No very little
Like you only
You only talked about Bryson for fit
Someone
Someone
Um recorded how long
We talked about for Bryson
It was like two minutes
And 37 seconds
But we talked about our assholes
For like nine minutes
Welcome to the fucking show dude
Libbs don't want to talk about
Fucking Bryson shooting a 58
It's like bro he shot 58
It's like I don't know what else to tell you
What do you want us to break down
Every single hole
He did it in the last three holes
He'd like birdied all three holes
It's incredible.
We said it was like one of the more iconic photos in golf history of jumping up into space.
Crazy.
What else he wants to say?
Did it the Greenbrier?
We're not going to be the people to break down a swing and what made it so great.
I don't know.
Bryce wants to come on and talk about it.
We'd rather talk about ruptured testicles.
Yeah, that was great.
Say again?
We'd rather talk about ruptured testicles.
That's a hard story.
I still don't have the answer I want from that story.
No, it's just a jelly bag.
But it is what it is.
Let's get out of here.
I got to take the train home.
I got to go to Alabama tomorrow and Toronto tomorrow.
I'll be flying to Alabama and Toronto in the same day, which is just a lot to handle.
What are you doing?
We're doing a fixing Frankie episode in Alabama with Dr. Brett McCabe.
We're going to be doing nine holes, a full update on like all the lessons I've gotten.
I did, you know, the initial lesson with Brett.
Then we went to Trevor Emel.
Then we went to Scott Fawcett.
Then I went to Trevor Emmelman.
My game has gotten increasingly better.
I've basically dropped from a 10 to a five handicap in the matter of a year because of all of this.
And now it's like how do we, you know, how do we start spinning the ball back?
How do we like, how do I have consistent thoughts on the golf course?
I feel like now I need that next.
And I feel like a lot of golfers struggle with this where like you start to get your game dialed in and then it unlocks.
You can do more.
How do you like stay within that?
You know what I mean?
Like I know I can physically hit the ball way better now.
Now how do I score better?
and how do I stay consistent?
How do I stay within my brain
where I'm not getting angry every time
because now I know I can do better.
It's a way different mental side of the game than I was.
It was like, how do I like become competent
was the first one?
And now it's like, how do I stay good and get better?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It's so wild.
You just can't grab the engine.
You just got to stay at like, you know,
6,000 RPMs and just never even think about it.
You know, and just like, it's a wild world.
then we got the barstool classic in toronto on friday and then i turned 30 on sunday that should be fun
no longer a baby boy you're only 29 mm-hmm it's crazy what a child i know it's a fucking
joke just painted a deck yesterday though so that's that's that's cool so that you know now you're
grown up got that going for me and then the fucking gutter guy ruined it but it is what it is
all right all right guys been good been good seeing your face lurchy all you all in uh
Oh, the alternate shot video came out last night.
Go watch that on YouTube.
So we played with, and it's Boldie.
I said Boldie.
I said Boldick on the last show because he's an Islander.
Boldick is an Islander.
He's like a 6D man on the Islanders.
And I said we play with Boldick.
It's Baldi from the Minnesota Wild.
Vinnie LaTerry is one of the funniest guys in the NHL.
And Kyle Rudolph.
So Kyle Rudolph is in that alternate shot.
It's a real fun alternate shot.
Go watch that.
And I'll see everyone in Canada.
I'm singing O Canada.
I don't want people to cancel me that I'm going to sing O Canada and be like our home, man,
basically as if I'm Canadian.
But I think you have to show them respect and sing their national anthem, right?
Yeah.
I think it's a good idea.
So it's a great song.
Oh, it's,
I think it's better to sing.
It's like easier to sing than the national anthem.
It's definitely not better.
Now, now we're getting into treasonous territory.
For me, it's like in my vocal range.
It doesn't go as like, you don't have to be Whitney Houston to sing it.
Like the Star Spangled Bally.
you have to be fucking good you know I think you can kind of get by with like your sea game with
the with the Canadian National Anthem.
This is nasty but I think the I think Canada is stronger than I like it better than ours.
Oh no no we have bigger moments in ours.
Lurch I mean I'm just you're up the land of the free and the fucking the you're talking about the flyover
and the home of and you're like holy shit I mean come on man.
Very good
It's a compelling argument
Now I'm like Frankie
I'm just spinning on a wheel
Yeah
There's way bigger moments
In the Sars Spangled Banner
Than there are in the Okana
But Ocana is a great
National Anthem
Yeah it is
I'm excited to sing it
Yeah I can fuck the Rangers
Let's end this thing
Hit it hard
Islanders suck go Rangers
Statistically they're like the worst
Original 6 team ever
So hit it hard
Hit it hard
Hit it hard Islander suck
Yeah
Fuck!
