Fore Play - David Feherty: “Wait, are we on?”

Episode Date: February 18, 2020

David Feherty (35:23) joins us in studio for a phenomenal and funny chat about a myriad of topics. We get into the behind the scenes of a broadcast, the problems with having a hot mic button, and David’s thoughts on players from Rory to Reed to Tiger and more. The crew also talks Genesis Invitational coverage, Riviera, and Adam Scott’s VERY impressive win!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Love to honor the presidents, huge fan of all American presidents and America in general. Yeah, I like the presidents. Can you name? How many presents can you name Lurch? Oh, man. What do you think the over-under is?

15. I think that's a good over-under. I was going to say 12. Yeah. How many do you think you could do? Five. Do you want to go through this right now? No, I don't either.

I don't want any. I want to pull the rip corner on this conversation. I know. I'm pissed you brought it up. I was just talking last night to one of my buddies saying, I don't remember anything from school. And it was quite evident when I've been. We had a debate on, like, the radio the other day where I just said, like, World War II was 1950s.

That's just wrong. So, yeah. No, I don't want to get to it. So I like the president. We're live from Five Iron Golf, which is a place we've talked about a good amount. We just, I don't know, rather than going to the office today on the office closed, we decided to go play some simulator golf. at 5 iron and um you know we had a nice little match at betpage black uh i lost me and the

producers lost i'm on a crazy losing streak you are i've won a legitimate golf match that i've cared about in like six months yeah and i hate losing i feel when we step up in the i feel is as good as i could possibly feel against you right now for whatever reason you have to it's crazy i don't know what it even like we've had a good amount of those matches too or we've halved yeah but i've never won Yeah, yes. In a long time. So when you're stepping up to a T against Riggs, are you like minus 185?

Betting line right now? I don't know if it's that high, but... That's crazy. I would say minus 140 to 160 is probably right now. If a team beats another team, how many times? But then as a gambler, I would might take him because he's like plus 160. You know what I mean?

That's crazy. It's plus 160. I don't know. Like, even our last... Plus 140 to 160 minus the big. Last, like as much as I've lost, it's been like week-long competitions where we've come down to the final day and lost those rounds. My question is, how much of you lost? You keep saying as much as I've lost.

It sounds like it's been an astronomical number. No, no, not like. It's like I'm incapable of winning. Like I literally, eight matches, nine matches? What's the number? What's the number? How many matches I've won in a row against Rakes? No, it's not.

It's not, but it's not like that. Five or six. No, it's not. Because like, literally two of the last three you didn't win. We have. Right, but I'm saying that you haven't won. I would say it's five or six, something like that. Yeah.

Yep. I'd say around there. It sucks. Boy, do I hate losing. And if you do that over like a period of time, that's like months. So let's think about it. I just lost today. Yep.

Nine holes of bat, back nine at Bedpage Black. Sucked. Me and the producers lost to you and Frankie. Yep. Then we go back to Carolina, inpromptu trip to Pinehurst. Yep. Lost two of the four matches? Yes.

And one zero of them. Yes. so that's that's five matches without a win then we go back to australia where we played what five matches there yeah and trent and i won one of them yeah that's right one match you guys won so we won one one of the last 11 like lost two and halved one yes right one of the last 11 and then my brain can't go any further back correct one of the last 11 matches in golf where like i'm in theory the lowest handicapped god that's infuriating david's fairies on this show

Yes, she is. It's a fourth time we've had Farity on the show. We have about 50 minutes, almost an hour that we had with Farity. He came into the studio. We, you know, he's got obviously his series. It's the 10th season of Farity, which is crazy. I remember where that show first started. And Faradie was always, he was hilarious, right?

He was the classic, like, golf voice, funny. He's got like the Irish, North Irish accent. And all of those types of things were always kind of building on the Farity brand. And then he was on the coverage and then he started his own show and he was like, oh, that's great. Dude, he's on season 10. He's got Henrik Stenson, all these different folks. So he's kind of going around town doing the media tour promoting that. We had him on the show.

And this time, you know, we always do preparation. We're always ready. But this time we kind of just, we're like, let's just hit record and just talk golf. And this was just a very sincere, very fun. You don't know what direction it's going to go in. Conversation with David Faradie, who's one of the great commentators in all of golf. We talk about the behind the scenes of the coverage, the different mics, how he's at different stages of career, had access to just,

he can hit a button at any moment and just be on the air. Sometimes that goes great. Sometimes that goes poorly. This comes amidst a bunch of controversy and backlash from the CBS coverage just past weekend. Farad, he's obviously part of the NBC coverage. So it's a very, very good conversation. We're only going to talk for a few minutes here about Riviera and whatnot, and then we're going to go to that conversation.

The second show of this week will get deeper into sort of what's going on in the world of golf. and all that, but the Farity conversation's phenomenal. People are going to love that one. So Farity's coming up in a few minutes. The Genesis out at Riviera, biggest star of the whole week is the golf course. Riviera is usually every week we have it, is considered, you know, people always go out and say Max Homa was saying,

Adam Scott was saying, a bunch of folks saying. It's their favorite course on the PGA tour that they play all year. Most course is on the PGA tour. If you're in any way like an architecture guy, suck. The reason they suck is because it's just narrow fairways, long rough. If the guys miss the green from 150 yards out, they just grab their 60 and walk up to the green all the way for 150 yards out because they know they just have to hit like a chop and hope out of the rough. Riviera is different.

It's cut tight. It played firm and fast. The greens were fast. Balls are bouncing. If you miss the greens or you miss the fairways, even though the rough wasn't that long, guys were completely fucked. Everybody backed up on the weekend instead of going forward for the most part, which is you love. to see nothing worse than when guys are like 10 or 11 under par on Friday night and then the finishing score is like 23 under it's just boring sucks riviera was the opposite i think cooch

was what nine under going into the weekend and the winning score was 11 under so it's like whatever anytime you get a tournament like that that leading score at the halfway point is somewhere really close to what the finishing score is that means you get guys that make a little bit of a run on saturday you see guys back up we saw um some horrific activity on sunday on the first fifth hole. Rory made triple and Adam Scott made double. When you're thinking like, oh my god, this is kind of the whole tournament, it's going to come down to this final group, which was

Cooch, Adam Scott, Roy McElroy, which is about as sexy of a final group as you can get outside of having Tiger Woods in the mix. And you see these horrific scores in the fifth hole. Ironically enough, you didn't get to see it because CBS in their coverage gap, which we've all hated upon forever, you get like two hours of golf channel. they have from like the 230 to 3 p.m. window.

The coverage goes from Golf Channel to CBS, but there's no actual live golf. And then the basketball game, the college basketball, always runs long, which whoever's a scheduling person at CBS is just not even close. Like they just don't. Every time, 100 times out of 100, the basketball game just runs too long. So you tune in for the golf at 3, and it's just there's a minute and a half left in a college basketball game, which takes 30 minutes every day. time. So then you miss your, you're watching the coverage. I bet on Rory on Sunday morning. He was

plus 160. He got up to plus 170 at one point. I'm like, I'm going to bet the house on Rory. Let's go. He's tied for the lead in the final group. He's the best player in the world. He's got all these articles coming out about how he's got this Zen approach to golf. No brainer. He hits the ball 50 yards past Matt Coocher. That guy's a joke. Adam Scott can't putt. He's using this fucking crazy contraption. I'm fine. He's looking great. And then I tune out for a half-hour tune back in. He made triple on five. I'm like, what the fuck? you talking about. He made triple on five. So they missed the whole coverage.

So we'll get more into that. But Adam Scott ended up playing lights out, even making clutch putts down the stretch, recovered from a double bogey to ultimately win the tournament. I think it's his 14th career PGA Tour win. First win since 2016. He has proven to be somehow pop up at really, but not somehow. He's got maybe the best swing in the world. But pop up the big moments.

He won the 2004 players championship. He won the 2013 Masters making big putts. I can remember with Steve Williams in the bag. I think Adam Scott has got to be one of the more universally loved guys in golf. Has you ever heard a negative word about Adam's Scott? He's a beautiful human being, too. What a bad drive that was. What a run through by rigs that was.

It was nuts. It was not the bottom. It was great. I will say, I spent more time this past weekend just like watching golf than I having a long time. I couldn't have been more opposite. Didn't see one side. Yeah, you were in NASCAR.

I was with Debbie. I was in Daytona. I was watching cars go around a track. What a slow-mo video by you, by the way. Best thing I've ever done. Yeah, that was something. I can't believe you caught that. As a guy that's trying to figure out the slow-mo game?

How about the fact? I can't believe that they slowed down in that image. You're not born to figure out the slow-mo game. What do you mean you can't believe this? You're able to edit it. What are you talking about right now? What do you mean they slowed down in the image? He doesn't know.

He doesn't know. So you take a slow-mo video and then you can move the slow-moanist part wherever you want it to be. No idea that you can do. That's nuts. Come on. Are you fucking kidding me? I thought you just had to start it like a second or two before the golf swings. So then you just, I was always trying to catch.

For anyone, I doesn't know what the fuck we're talking about. I was in Daytona on the track. We had Debbie, our Uber driver from pizza reviews. We drove, we give the background on Debbie real quick. She seems incredible. Debbie, we were in East Haven, Connecticut one day, me and Dave, and we were doing pizza reviews. We went to a pizza place. Our Uber driver had to leave.

So then we had, like, another Uber driver who was going to take us around. Her name was Debbie. We get in the car, just like any other Uber. And we're like, hey, Debbie, can you take us to, like, multiple spots? She's like, yeah, where are you guys going? She's a character. Small little thing. Like, she's older and, like, I don't know how I explain it.

You just have to see Debbie. She smokes 10 packs of cigarettes a day. She also was calling those little packets of milk that you get it in a bucket donuts fresh, as long as they were by hood. Which made me laugh. Like, I haven't laughed in a while. Whatever. And anyway, so we went from place to place. She started ripping on the places that we've been.

She's like, I've heard of you. She's like, you go to my place, men are vines. It's the best pizza place on earth. It ended up sucking. So we end up loving her. because her and Dave had a good connection. So anyway, within knowing her, she said that she likes cars. Obviously, she loves driving cars.

She was a bus driver for 30 years. She's famous in her town. She's like every kid's favorite bus driver of all time. She drives, like, big, big RVs. And now she's an Uber driver. So she loves cars. So we drove her down to, we didn't drive her down. She doesn't fly.

So she drove down herself. I mean, when you're that committed to driving everywhere, you drive. She drove from Connecticut to Florida to Minnesota, with her sister and her sister's boyfriend. They got one room, two beds. 1100, January. fired up the drive. It was like 1,500 miles, something like insane.

It took her 27 hours. They stopped twice. But anyway, so we brought her around. We did the whole experience. They announced at the driver's meeting, which is the most sacred meeting at the Daytona 500. They literally do a prayer, like Dale Earnhardt Jr., like says something to everyone. They announced Dale Earnhardt Jr. They announced the president of NASCAR.

They announced Darius Rucker. And then all of a sudden they said from Barstool Sports, Uber Driver Debbie, Uber driver Debbie and Dave Portnoy. They both stood up and the place went crazy inside. It was amazing. It was nuts. It was nuts. It was good.

I saw that. So, yeah. So we were on the track and then, you know, the president was there. It was crazy. It was a really cool. He came through. Twitter was going nuts. Like, 250,000 people at that event and every single person lost their shit.

Because, I mean, like, that's his demographic for year. Like Daytona 500. Oh, yeah. And he drove around the track. He drove around the track. He actually flew around the track in Air Force One. They came real low and he did like a whole spin around. No way.

And then landed. It was awesome. That's the move, right? I mean, it's an election. Dude, I don't know. So large was down there with us, one of our bars. So, guys, I don't know, like, the science or the numbers behind this, but he was trying to explain, like, if regular, let's say a regular plane is 1x. The Air Force 1 is 7X size and weight.

So maybe, like, the same size. It was like a 747. He explained this better. I know that he did rather than that. A regular plane is 1X. He said, like, 100,000 tons or whatever, and 700,000. tons is this is this plane Air Force one.

At one point I said at one point I said it's like five to seven times I said five to seven times heavier he said yes but but of what just like things like what are they right

where they have a black hole that's what I said I said at any moment they can just like what like you can like try and shoot it down just deflect the bomb or something it's like yeah what like the computer just weighs seven times more than art.

Listen, I started this thing, I don't know any of the numbers or the facts. I'm just stating what I think are. Do they just lace their like MacBooks in dumbbells? Like I was kind of, dude, it's kind of like that car he drives around. Yeah, the beast. The beast, it's like 10 times heavier than whatever

other cars. That is true. The window, like the windows apparently are like 12 inches thick with bulletproof glass. Apparently that's like, I believe that one is like is filled with all this stuff. Yes, and I didn't know the numbers. So that's why I said one X. You could shoot like a heat-seeking missile at that limo and the thing's fine. And it'll also, like, it'll go faster than you can think.

Like, it's got all these crazy things on it. I think you can just fly. Have you ever drove around her boltproof car? No. I used to date a girl from Venezuela, went down there for, like, 10 days. Her family was very well connected. I'm not going to get into the level of detail over her name. But she had, windows in her car were five to six inches thick.

You'd have to shoot the same spot, like, ten times before a bolt could, like, dribble in. The coolest part was, if you took, like, a whole thing. horseshoe and shoved it. It was like an old Jeep Cherokee kind of thing, but if you took a horseshoe and shoved it right above, like into the transmission, like right where the radio is, steel bolts would shoot from the front to the back and through the sides and it would be complete lockdown. It was the craziest experience of my left. You're 10 feet away with a handgun. Yes. How many bullets does it take you to get through that window? I couldn't get through because the round, there's only what, eight bullets in a round? No, I'm saying you have unlimited ammo.

How many bullets does it take large to get through? You're saying you hit the same spot 10 times the bullet doubles through. You obviously can't do that. From how many? 10 feet away? Yeah, 10 feet away. How many? You just shooting that thing all day, 200 bullets?

I bet you I'd get through 120 bolts. Same spot? I think I could do lower. Maybe lower 80. Yeah, maybe 7. A gun would knock you over. You go flying backwards. Some of the recoil is tough.

Adam Scott has a great swing, though. They're a golf podcast. We're going to get to Adam Scott's swing. There are a lot of CVD companies out there. You might not have known that. Nearly all of them claim to be the best, but now the people have spoken. Here's how they've spoken.

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There's other folks like Max Oma. We had our guy, Scott Brown, or all. making a run at the title. It's an incredible finish to this tournament. Harlevon the 3rd grabs the lead. He's literally the co-leader teeing off on the back 9. Maybe no hole in all of the PGA tour's schedule gets more coverage

than the 10th hole at Riviera. Everybody debates it to the point where Trista Crick and I wrote blogs against each other about like how to play the 10th hole. Everybody debates it. There's a bazillion articles about it. It's 300 yards. It's 280 yards when they move the T's up a little bit. Narrow, narrow little like bacon strip green,

bunkers everywhere. If you go for it, odds are that you'll make a little bit better of a score, but you also can make like an eight. It's an iconic hole. Well, Harold Varner, the third steps up on that T. Tied for the lead in this tournament, this Genesis Invitational. It's reached this amazing status because Tiger Woods is now the host. There's only three tournaments that have that. The Arnold Palmer, the Memorial, which are obviously Jack Nicholas, Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods.

This is this great tournament. He steps up to the fucking Tenth Tee with the lead tops the T shot. They don't even show it. They just go, yeah, here's Harold Varner from 177 out on a 300-yard hole. You're like, wait, what the fuck they do that? Did they just say? Only leaves $130 off the tea. And the announcer first, I can't remember who said it, goes,

oh, you must have laid up to like a weird yard or something. You're like, wait, what? And he's literally what? He's got like a seven iron into this hole where everyone else is like chipping back towards it. And turns he makes double. He's in and has a terrific back nine falls out of leave. Well, they didn't show the clip until like an hour, an hour and a half later in like a compilation, highlight compilation of like how we got here.

And they showed it briefly for like a. second and a half. You're like, dude, this clown show. Terrible. This guy topped a T-shot leading the tournament. He called like chunk-topped it. What do you guys do? It was insane that they didn't show it. It's mind-boggling that they don't show that video. He had a three-wood

129 yards. Pretty good. Yeah, with a chunk-top. That's how firm and fast in condition. I would take that. Every three-wood for the rest of your life goes to 129. Do you take that? Straight? Yeah. No, you don't take that. Come on. You can't. Come on.

That's gunwins. 129, though, on the number. So how funny would be? No more wedges. 129 out. There's a little run-up. You just take out your three wood and just chunk it up there. Can't take it.

Dude, there was a time during this summer where my three wood didn't miss the fairway. It was laugh out loud. When did that come to an end? Because I remember you were on fire and then we played somewhere and you just like. Aaron Hills. Yes. I got to the first T-Bucks Aaron Hills and I topped my first ball into the shit. then my next one went way left into this shit

I was already hitting five off the tee and I'm like I'm never hitting this club again and it was over I haven't hit it since that's what stopped dude going into that round at Aaron Hills Is I remember positive? This has to happen so many people crushing it off the team rushing it and like just crushing it and I got it back a little bit in Australia I was crushing it yeah I agree

but fuck man I got out to Aaron Hill so cocky like man I've been playing rounds with my three wood and I've been roping the ball and then I got up to the first tee and it was over that three wood is your secret weapon yeah it depends on it You can play like any golf course and play it well. There's no doubt about it. It goes on the first tee.

How about our boy Scott Brown finished tied for second and won $703,000? It's huge, man. For a guy like that, that's like scrapping around on the PGA tour. He's always in the mix, like once in a while you'll see like his name. But he's, I meant to say he's never in the mix. I don't know why I say he's always in the mix. You never see his name up there. I mean, I didn't really know who Scott Brown wasn't until we met him at Positia Mollah.

I was like, who the fuck is this guy? Why is he hitting the same way as Kevin Kisner, who's one of the best golfers in the world? And you guys are like, oh, yeah. is just a pro. I'm like, what? There's a catty here. Like, what the hell's going on? All of a sudden, the guys made like millions of dollars playing golf. And then you see him in a tournament like this. You're like, go fucking Brown and you go. But it's huge for him to make that much money. Like, that's what keeps this guy living that lifestyle. Right. You need rounds like this. You need tournaments like this where he makes $700,000. Yeah. Because if you keep going and going going with like, you know, missing cuts or tied for 42nd and stuff like that, you're not going to live that like lavish pro golf lifestyle.

But now you win $700,000 in one weekend. No problem. The way people fell off, too. I didn't even realize that he was tied for a second. I think what? He finished two back or something like that? He finished two back. He was nine under. He birdied the 18th, which was awesome.

He made like a 25 footer from off the fringe. But yeah, Adam Scott, who had to make clutch punch down the stretch. Like if he doesn't make those, all of a sudden, Scott Brown finds himself in a playoff. And like a life-changing playoff for a gigantic event. Now, he and kids have been in the playoff at the team event. The match play? No, it's the. the Louisiana, the New Orleans tournament.

Oh, right, right, right. I remember that, yeah, that's right. I can't, I'm blanking on the name. It's where Trent and I had our famous first really negative run-in with the PGA tour, where they do the player intros, and they introduce it, changed it two or three, four years ago as the team event where you play two of the round, one round, you play. Zert-Class. Yeah, the Zert-class.

One round, you play, it's basically the same format as like the Ryder Cup. You play alternate shot, then you play like two-man best ball. You play alternate shot two-man best ball. They got into a playoff. Kiz hold like a chip to get into a playoff. Through his club in the air is crazy. They ended up losing, I believe, that playoff to the boys. Did they win that one year?

They just always play well there. I actually can't remember. But point is, Scott Brown outside of that, most people probably wouldn't know who he is. No chance. He played that round with us with Kiz, and he's a total beauty. He shot like an incredibly similar score to Kiz without anybody really noticing. He has the same swing, same like mental capacity as him, like just the same type of Their balls were just like right next to each other the entire time.

And so anyway, Scott Brown posting 900 par and getting that close to career-changing victory. Cool. It's still really cool that he posts tied for second, that he wins $700,000 after missing a couple of cuts. He played over at Pebble. I think he played the Sony Open as well. So he missed a couple cuts. Scott Brown is a phenomenal guy. We're going to try to get him on ASAP, by the way.

Speaking of Kevin Kisner and Scott Brown, Lurch just got a DM from Kisner, as we're recording this. What did it say? Kisner goes, because I was like, putting putting's impossible. And then Kisner goes, but you put up an Instagram story of your pudding. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And then he goes, why is your follow-through five times longer than your backstroke? It's stuff like that. How much does that make you think? Well, that makes me think of every, why are we doing stuff so wrong? Yes. Although I've never really asking you a question as if you're supposed to have the answer. Yeah. Like, what kind of,

like, be like, how the fuck am I supposed to have the answer, kids? That's what I would write back. Well, you tell me. I have no answer. My is just because that felt right. Why is you follow through five times longer than your backstroke? Because I have no approach to putting it. Because we don't know how to play the game. That's actually a good response. That's honestly the answer.

It's like if we had any idea what we were doing, then I wouldn't do that. He's asking questions as if like, oh yeah, no, I knew that I was supposed to have my backstroke longer there. It's just I didn't do it there. Like, no, it's not the answer. I don't know what the fuck on. Because I have no idea how to play golf. Yes. So look, we're going to delve more into this stuff.

the second show of the week. We've also got a very interesting interview on Thursday with the guys who are behind the Bridgestone golf ball, the new one that Tiger Woods is using. They talk a lot about the process with Tiger. We ask some questions about like dialing the golf ball back, how that affects them. We talk about is there just the science to create a golf ball that we could just hit 400 yards? So there's a lot of interesting conversations with them. Before we jump over to Farity, who's up in a couple minutes,

I do want to talk a little bit about Adam Scott on the 15th pole. had some very interesting things to say after his round. So 15th hole, he's, you know, he's got a stroke lead, I believe, at the time. He's got the par 5, 17th ahead. 16th holes a relatively short par 3. So he's in a great, great position. His approach shot at 15 plugs in a bunker. Horrific lie.

He hacks out of there across the green. And he's in a position where he's got not a ton of green to work with. Greens are playing firm and fast. You can't really bump it through the kikuyu grass because it's spongy and it just stops it, which if you're watching the coverage, They said over and over and over again. So he went through and talked about... Kakuya.

He went through and talked about the shot that he had on 14th, on the 15th hole. And he said, he had like this crazy chunk, like flop shot, ended up getting up and down to save bogey and ultimately wins the tournament by two. He goes, about 18 months ago, I was fooling around a little bit, doing some silly stuff by the green. My coach said, look, as silly as that shot may feel, it actually looks like it's in a really good position to hit shots from. Then he goes and fast forwards and talks about his position on the 15th hole.

He's in a horrible spot. He's chipping for par, mind you. And he goes, I stood there and I wanted to maybe bump it into the fringe. Realistically, if I was going to do that, it was going to go probably 45 feet past the hole. I thought, well, maybe you could just win the tournament if you hit a great flop shot here. So I thought might as well just go for it and pull the trigger, hit this awesome flop shot, got up and down for bogey and ends up winning the tournament. That's awesome.

That's how you win tournaments. Toss. Balls on him to do that? That's a professional, though. That's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. and practicing and trying new stuff

and then bringing it into play is always awesome and then having the balls to execute on it and actually execute it is so impressive. And it's cool to think that he was standing of thinking like very seriously considering being like, okay, I'll hit this 45 feet out, two putt for double, and I'll like get out of here with double and like still have a chance to win the tournament.

But if I hit this flap, I will win the tournament. And like the fact that he's in that position and making that choice is crazy. Where we'd all be thinking like 100%, oh, I'm going to hit some hero shot, make a quad and you're like my rounds over. I shoot 95. he's like clearly going through all that he goes and dials it back like 18 months ago and memorize or like draws upon a memory from them it hits that shot so very cool little anecdote from Adam's harder to like fathom that golfers do it but like in other sports it seems normal even though it's like on the same level it's almost like like a basketball player a team being down two and he's dribbling around the clocks going down it's like no you guys can go get two and just forces in overtime but he like waits for the buzzer and like we'll shoot a three like a corner like fade away shot you

Like, no, I knew I could end it right here. Like, I'm confident enough in this shot. I practiced it before. I know that if I do a step back right here, I have a better higher percentage chance to end the game right now as opposed to giving the team that I'm facing a better chance. But in golf, when someone does something like that, you're like, how the fuck is that even possible? Dude, it's a little bit of happy. Like, no, I'll just beat him now. Exactly.

Right? Yeah. Hey, happy, just two putt, hit it around. But golf, it feels impossible to make shots like that. Like, you're supposed to just do the thing that is normal. You're not supposed to take risks when you don't. Yeah, or take the least amount of risk on for the most amount of success. Let's take the least amount.

Pretty much what he was doing, like, in his own head. Yeah. Which is so different, always from golf, too, because we can give the basketball example. Like, the coach could be saying, like, no, no, no, no, I want the quick two. I'm playing, like, the long-term game. And he's like, fuck you. And then you got the Frankie Hotshot point card that's like, no, no, no, I can end this now. And you see it swish or you just see it going to the first row and it's just the worst shot you've ever seen.

Dude, and we've all been in that position, too, where you think about, like, okay, I can play this defensively and keep myself in it. Yeah. And he was like, wiped that out, was like, nope, I'm going to play this aggressively. I'm going to fucking win. And like that is. I mean, yeah, and I love that mentality, especially in golf because the field is so good. And so if you have that chance and you're late in the day on Sunday and he's got the skill set of swings, impeccable. But then to execute it on that, I just, I love every piece of that example to drive home to win.

How often? I could take the chance and maybe win or I definitely can. I just have to execute right here right now. Really cool that it was for bogey, right? Because we think about these heroic shots to, like, oh, he went for it and, like, had an eagle bid. What a hero. But here he is, and like every stroke matters the same. It doesn't matter if you're chipping for par, if you're chipping for eagle.

Like, every stroke matters the same. And here he is talking about this kind of heroic decision he made to, like, save bogey and ultimately won the tournament. You're like, that's awesome. How often have we all decided, oh, no, I'm going to play this one safe? And then it ends up horrifically worse than it would have been had you just done the thing that you originally thought of. And you walk out of that green? You're like, no, I'll just hit a seven iron to the left. So you take the seven iron and then you hook it way.

you're right and it somehow finds the water that you would have hit in your mind you thought you're going to hit with the hybrid dude you walk off that hole and you're like I in your head you're like I want all of you to know that like I was playing that whole smart to make a boge right and I made a nine but I want you guys to know I've done that all the time where I've hit my leg I'm like I was playing this whole safe people of our skill level playing a hole safe to me is almost the dumbest idea what are we going to shoot because we are we are safe so much bad too yeah yeah exactly Like go for it.

Yeah, just rip it because you could screw up either side of the equation. And, like, you playing it safe doesn't mean that the outcome is going to be safe and good. Oh, you played it safe? You know how many times I played it tape from like great play? And then the next one I topped it. I played it up safe and then the next one I just chunked the wedge. Totally. Or it's just like, what am I doing it?

And then if that's like the sixth hole, let me, I want to go home. Yeah. Like, I'm so pissed because all I can think about for the rest of the round is I could have been two strokes better. It's almost like watching professional golf and then. that sense kills us. Because everyone's like, oh, wow, he's playing really smarter. He hit a three iron. He hit his three iron, 275 down the middle.

Here I am. I'm like, I'm going to play it smarter. Pull my three iron. I like chunk, like block it. Now I hit it. It went 182. So now I'm like 211 out in the right rough. Instead of I just hit the same driver, I'm like 160 out in the right row.

I mean, just try to get as close the hole as possible as fast as you can and then figure out the short time. What's the hole at Glen Oaks? Is it the 10th hole or where there's, it's like an elevated T-Box? and there's water on the left. 11th. The 11th hole at Glen Oaks. I always remember, we were in a pretty good match.

And I remember being like, playing pretty well to the point where I was stepping up the tee with some confidence. And I was so cocky saying, so it's a hole where it's a dog leg left and then it comes back right to snakes. Very difficult hole. But like you could, you can hit the drive over the first set of water. And then like the odds are if you, if you bomb it, you're going to hit the other side of the water. It's a real thin landing spot. But it's not that thin when you get up there. And everyone's hitting drive and I get up there being like, oh, no, I'm a lot.

I'm going to hit a fucking iron here, and I'm going to be perfect. I remember just topping the iron right into the water. Every single person in our group crush a drive right over the water. Just in great shape. So confidently. So easy. Like, no, you just got to ignore the water here. I'm like, no, I was playing it to the right.

I want you guys to know that I should have been right here. And then, like, when you walk up, you're like, why didn't I take a driver? Look how much space is up here. Good course design. Infuriating. All right. David Faradies coming up next. We talk about Tiger really quick.

Because, like, what happens? Yeah. I don't know. We have to talk about. I didn't see any of it. I wasn't even going to bring it up. I mean, you have to bring it up. Dude, how weird is it that you have?

Looking out for the boss man right there. He started four under through eight holes and finished 11 over a pop. He finished at last. I just think he lost. The eagle the first, I mean, it was like, I mean, it was like all signs go and then it was like, what's going? Dude, even like midway through his day on fucking Friday, he was three under. It's like, the winner was 11 under. You're like, oh, he's playing bad and he's fine.

And then he just fell off. I was at Daytona on the track and I'm looking at my phone. I'm like trying to keep track. And I'm like, what has happened in Tiger Woods right now? And then all of a sudden I look on Twitter and he's fishing for a ball inside a garbage can. And I was like, what is happening? Am I in like an alternate universe? Like I saw Tiger leaning in.

Right. He was wearing red, right? He was in his red, right? Yeah. Like Tiger Woods in red leaning into a trash can. No. Looking for a golf ball is like an image I don't ever want to see again. Like he almost should have taken his shirt off so that like the pictures of him in red.

Put a jacket on or something. Yeah. Leaning into a trash bag to find his golf ball should never be able to never be taken. Yeah. Yeah, it was too bad. He's going to have weeks where he's got it and weeks where he doesn't. I hope he's not hurt. I think he's not.

He's not playing Mexico. Trent said he was like laughing after the round, being like, I just sucked. He was. He just was like, yeah, I just didn't have it. I was stiff, all this, that. We're just going to chalk it up to like him saying, oh, yeah, some weeks are just going to be like this because I'm 40 fucking whatever now. I love that one.

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Is this CBS coverage right now? No, we're walking on. Yeah, we got a little David Faradie here. I'll pass it over you, Frankie. The luck of the Irish always. You can hit the runway? I'm out here at 5 Iron Golf. And this guy just had a 10-foot putt.

and he he hit the put at 5 iron, right? He's right next to us, and he ended up 37 feet away from the hole. He was 10 feet away. He hit the put. His next foot was 37. His next foot was 37, and not one person in his group set of work. They all just acted like it was no problem. It's got to be a couple free agents.

He's been watching on some large of me. All he had to do is get it within four feet. There's like a six foot. Give me window. He just had to tap this thing. He hit it 31 feet. Aggressive put. One of the worst putt that ever seen.

Your little Irish there was pretty good. It was. Then you kind of lost it. I have to go to the bathroom really badly. So we're going to end David Faradies up next. This is the worst putter in the world. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

Okay, we are now joined by a very special guest. I believe it's his fourth appearance on the show. He's got the 10th season of Farity on Golf Channel premiering Monday, February 24th at 9 p.m. Eastern. You guys have Henrik Stenson, Scott Van Pelt, Gary Woodland, Charles Schwab, Suzanne Patterson. Mr. Faradie, welcome to the show.

Thanks. Anything with stool in the name, I'm always there. Yeah, it's a perfect fit, right? Yeah. Ten years. Congratulations. Thank you. Time flies.

Yeah, it really does. I mean, I haven't run out of guests, you know, more than I think it's around 140. Wow. So far. Yeah. Man. Is it one of those? We talk a lot about the more golf courses you play, the more you want to play.

Well, not in my case. You know, I got run over by a truck about 14 years ago and I sort of crippled my left arm. So I like the short, flat golf courses with a Ritz Carlton at the end. Is it like that at all with interviewees, the more people that you talk to, kind of the longer your list grows of people that you want to interview? Yeah, it is. I mean, I've interviewed, you know, a bunch of favorites. But, you know, I have people left, you know, that I want to get.

That's for sure. How was, so Henrik Stenson, he's, of course, in the premiere. We hear all the time about how he's rumored to be, you know, this hilarious guy. How are you able to and like kind of what can we expect from this interview, maybe a side of Henrik Stenson that people haven't seen before? Yeah, you know, I mean, he's one of my favorite people in golf. He really is.

And what you see is not what you get. He's incredibly dry and very, very smart. Just a wonderful interview. So speaking of interviews, Rory, McElroy with his interview with Paul Kimmage has kind of been making a lot of waves lately with how candid and open he is. How refreshing is it to have a guy like Rory who's number one in the world in golf being kind of that open and that candid because we don't get that very off. Yeah, I'm incredibly proud of Rory. I was actually the assistant pro at the golf course.

He grew up at 19 years before the little bugger was born. Yeah. You know, so I watched him grow up. and, you know, to see him turn into not just the golfer that he is, but the person that he is, you know, open and honest and articulate, you know, it's a great source of pride for me. What was he like as a little bugger? He was phenomenally talented. He just stood up head and shoulders above, you know,

the rest of the kids, you know, they're shooting, you know, in the 90s and Rory's in the 70s. Was he kind of cocky even? as a young, did he walk with such, you know, confidence? The little binds? The little binds. He's always had the little binds. Really? Yeah, yeah. That thing is, that's unmistakable when you see him walking down a fair moment. That bounce came with like puberty, maybe.

No, he got through it, you know, with, yeah, I mean, he has that distinct. Although, I mean, I can tell, you know, anybody from their walk, really, you know, from five, 600 yards. It's one of the things that sort of stands out like a fingerprint. Is that from, you know, cover? ring golf and being on course. Yeah. You get so used to kind of seeing just the, that body motion and it's just. Exactly.

That's very interesting. I want like, what other, what other sort of quirks or tells do you pick up on the course to kind of know exactly who's coming and to be prepared? Well, I mean, there's, obviously there's swings, you know, all of which are different. And, you know, there's the walk. If you can hear people, there's the talk. Yeah. And just mannerisms after the swing, you know, people sometimes ask me, you know,

how can you tell where the ball is going? You know, if we show a swing off the T, you know, the minute the ball is gone, I know where it's going. You know, just by the body language afterwards, if a player is leaning to the left, even, you know, if his eyelashes are going towards the left, well, that's where he wants the ball to go. You know, the ball's going to the right. That's very interesting. Yeah, I've never really thought about that.

But the challenge is, you know, what are some other kind of, um, challenges maybe early on with coverage that that you maybe didn't anticipate or that you kind of had to learn on the job of like oh man I didn't realize when I watched golf that it would be this difficult to follow the ball or to know who's coming or whatever yeah when I was down on the fairway I'm in the booth now it was one of the things that you have to learn how to do because I don't like the whispering announcer you know I like to be able to talk in a relatively normal tone of voice you know so you've got to get far enough away from the player to where you can in that normal tone of voice but still understand or know what he's doing.

So, you know, each of the forward observers, if you like, you want to call us, the course reporters has a spotter, you know, who'll stand very close to the player, who can see what club, you know, he's hitting in here and what kind of conversation there is, you know, between the player and the caddy. And it's not just knowing the player and the caddies, the caddies extremely important. And I make sure that I buy a few drinks afterwards. And I always try to get the caddy's name in, whoever it is that's caddying for a player. Try to personalize them a little bit.

Right. You know, because, you know, they're not just important to the player. They're important to me. That's where I get most of my information from. You know, little flash signs, you know, with clubs and, you know, stuff like that. Or a shrug of the shoulders. I don't know what the hell he's doing. You know, that kind of thing.

So that was one of the things. and, you know, when you are up close, sometimes you have to be close. You've got to find that balance between, you know, that tone of voice. I mean, I remember reading a putt for Sergio. Well, not for him, but actually it turned out that way because he heard me, you know,

and, you know, when you just read it left edge and he was thinking it was right edge, you know, that's awkward. Right. Yeah. You should have to ignore our pipes. Almost as awkward as our pipes exploding in the heat. You know, the more things change,

and more they say the same. We come to this brand new, beautiful office and we have uh that's good that's probably going to happen throughout the whole interview yeah it's a special sauce yeah yeah to say you ever had like an incident where you were um you thought you were far enough away but you just weren't oh yeah absolutely you know when you call a shot and uh or you give your opinion of what's going to happen and and it happens it's happened over the years more often with tiger woods than it has with with anybody else you know and i always put my hand in the air when i'm wrong um that that's

It's one of the things that kind of irritates me about sports commentary in general. You know, it's when somebody screws something up and, you know, acts like it didn't happen. You know, because I read putts incorrectly a lot when I was a player. It happens, you know, so it's going to happen when I'm an announcer as well. Right. That's just the nature of the sport. Yeah, so you're, yeah, you're like, it's the right edge and then it clearly breaks. Somebody gets it outside the left.

And it goes in and you're like. Yeah, it goes in. You ever like ignore it or you always just like, whoops? It's like I read that like a Russian newspaper. Yeah. So now that you're more up in the booth, how does your preparation change for coverage? My preparation for the booth is very similar to being on the ground. It's basically lying on the sofa watching Live PD.

Yes. Favorite show. Yeah, it's mine. I love that you're still crushing that show just every night, just sitting there watching Live PD. Oh, yeah, yeah. Amazing. I've seen every episode probably three or four times. It's like cops on steroids.

It is. It's a way better version of it. Well, it is, you know, because it shows the cops, you know, and what they do. Yeah. They have, they get such a hard time, you know, for what they do incorrectly. You know, this is, you know, it shows their patience, you know, and their, you know, just their professionalism. Right. Yeah.

And, you know, I mean, I've been pulled over a bunch of times. Yeah. And I've never had a problem, you know, with the cops. being nasty to me or anything like that. Right. And there's always the guy's like, this is the sixth time we pulled you over today. It's like, what are you doing? What's going on? Come on, man. We need to get pulled over here

because we were parked for a while. We're in a Tesla and I couldn't get out. You couldn't get out? I couldn't find my way. I couldn't find the door handle. And the lady that's driving us, it was her first time in the Tesla as well. She didn't know how to get out. So we're nearly in it all day. Yeah. Those Teslas are like spaceships. Yeah. I mean, they're just impossible.

pressing buttons, hoping it opens up. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm where the windows going up and down. Clapping, maybe? Yeah, exactly. Two claps? Yeah. Imagine being like a walk,

it's just like a guy walking down the street and you're looking at and see Dave Faradie, just screaming. Get me out of the car. You're beaten on the window. You being held hostage? Yeah, yeah. No, Tesla. Yeah.

The guy just walks up and just opens the handle. The door just opens up. Well, actually, it's pretty difficult to get into as well. I mean, I said, the whole thing is like an intelligence. intelligence test, you know, which I failed miserably. Any technical kind of issues like that ever in coverage? You ever like they put a new headset on you or something? You're like, all right, I don't know what's got on here.

I mean, generally speaking, the setup is very similar. You know, when you're on the grind, the Masters, for instance, which is, you know, a couple of months' time, I did 19 of them as a broadcaster, and we have no air key. You know, at every other tournament you've got a key where you can just hit it and interrupt, you know, into the broadcast. There's none at the Masters. You know, so if you see something going on,

whatever you can't, you know, break into it, you know, and tell people. And there's various different setups, you know, for the cough button or the fart button, as we call it. Yeah, the cough button where if you've got to hack something up in the middle of a telecast and your interrupt, you know, back to the trailer, you know, on your producers.

You know, so, yeah, I mean, you can hit the wrong button and talk to yourself for 30 seconds, that kind of thing, yeah. So at the master, if you need to say so, are you just like screaming in a 30, you're waving your arms in the air? Like something's happening, like, how do you get on the air? Well, you know, for a long time, I had the second hole and the 15th hole. You know, so I had about three and a half hours of listening to Bobby Clampett. you know which you know without being able to break in and say anything

it was kind of frustrating from that standpoint I can imagine so then I to go the other way with it have you ever you know hit the on air button and not meant to and just been on the air? Oh God yeah

over the years you know and I've said things that you know you can't unsay it you know making mistakes like that at the years ago, you know, one of the big mistakes you can make as a broadcaster if you're up in a tower,

I mean, you have a monitor there, you know, an 8 by 12 monitor at the Masters with a scoring monitor on top of it, and that's pretty much all you've got. I was at the 15th for 19 years, and the view is spectacular. You turn around in your chair, and you're almost on the 16th green. And, you know, you can see all the way down to A-Men corner across the other side of the golf course. So there's a lot of interesting stuff going on. And, you know, but you have to look at that monitor because that's what the viewer sees. And if you look at live, you know, whatever, you may see something from a different camera angle or whatever. Tigger came to the T and he hit a T shot where, I mean, and I just knew that he'd nutted it. And this was back when, you know, he was longer than everybody else. And there

two crosswalks at 15. And he hit it down into the second crosswalk, which was 40 yards past where anybody else had and I happened to look out from behind my monitor and there was one lady that saw it she was walking through the crosswalk and she had a long skirt on and she kind of woo you know avoided it you know like that ran into into like a mouse running across the floor and I said well the ladies had to lift their skirts for that one people are like what is he saying thinking that and I look back at the monitor and we're still tight on tiger's face you know so everybody that was watching the telecast thought that every woman within the vicinity had just exposed herself, you know, to Tiger Woods.

You're like, no, literally, I saw it. Yeah, yeah, I did, but just, you know, the viewer didn't. Yeah. Oh, man. That's wild. So talk about that process. I mean, if you're sitting on the buyer near the green pretty much the whole time, someone's then radioing down to you, who's in the fairway or who just hit.

What can you see on the monitor? How do you kind of get that information? Well, you know, there's the spotter out there that relays the information to the trucks. And then that's relayed to me, you know, through my headset. I've got the producer in one ear, you know, the director and the other, and, you know, the telecast over the two of them. That's got to be a lot of pressure and trust on everyone. Because if one person, a scouter gets who hit it wrong or if they're in the rough

or if they're behind a tree or not wrong, then it kind of goes through the entire broadcast. Well, I mean, the whole thing can come apart if you go back to the source. You know, if the spotter takes a gas at it, you know, I always say, let me take the gas. I spent 20 years on tour and been a pro for 43. You know, let me take a shot at it. You know, not a 26 handicap that doesn't see the same colors as I do. Right. Yeah.

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weeks. I mean, how strenuous is that going from, you know, not covering it for a while to all of a sudden seven weeks of live coverage golf? Well, the work itself is fun. I haven't had a job. And just I should say at this point, I've had wonderful spotters, you know, through the years. I'm not, you know, criticizing them. But seven weeks in a row, it's really the travel. We start in Mexico and then go through Florida, end up in Austin, I think, for the match play. It's really just the travel. That's the issue. We stay in nice hotels, you know, just TSA and, you know, traveling to and from. That's just such a pain in the ice. What about the golf courses? I mean, do you know them so well at this point that, you know, there's not a ton that needs to be done?

You pretty much know them in the back of your hand? Yeah. I know the golf courses. I haven't seen them for years. although, I mean, when I moved, made the jump to NBC, I've got the exact opposite schedule. You know, they cover the tournaments that CBS didn't. You know, so, I mean, it's taken four or five years, you know,

to learn some of those. How was the jump? I'm a believer that the NBC coverage is significantly better than CBS. It's not just saying that because you guys are here. Yeah. From your vantage point, was there a big difference moving over or was it pretty similar behind the scenes? It's a lot of it's similar behind the scenes.

You know, and in front of the scenes, it's, you know, a different personnel. And, you know, I mean, I've got great friends back at CBS that I miss. McCord in particular. And Costas, the two of them, and Jim Nance and everybody. But I've got fantastic guys that I work with, Dan Hicks and Paul Asinger. I've been friends for years, and Roger Maltby and Gary Koch, you know, and the rest of the guys, you know, down on the ground. It's, they're just a fantastic group to work with.

You know, like I say, you know, I haven't had a job in 43 years, you know, so it's been it's been fantastic with both networks. We always talk about nerves as a golfer. Do you ever get nerves as a broadcast? Oh, yeah, absolutely. you know, throw into commercial, things like that. You know, when you say something stupid, you know, or whatever, you know, you try not to say the same thing, oh, hey, you know, you're watching the WGC, you know,

Dell matchplay tournament. You know, we don't know what this is, but we'll be back with more of it. That's interesting that that's the part that makes you the most nervous is the throwing into commercial. How am I going to get to commercial? I actually think that makes a lot of sense. Like, you're just like, what am I going to say here? Yeah, I mean, because.

do it, you know, 20 times a broadcast. It's difficult to come up with 20 different things to say, that's for sure. Who's the person you've been most nervous or anxious or however you want to describe it to interview? On the Farity Show? Either one. Well, or out in the golf course. You know, on the Farity Show, I mean, I've interviewed four presidents, you know, so it's, oh, well, no, I've interviewed three presidents, one of them twice.

Okay. The Trumpster. And I interviewed President Obama on the White House lawn for the Olympics. And that's always, you know, a nerve jangler. But any time you get among the grades, Jack Nicholas, you know, Bill Russell, Sam Jackson, you know, people like that, Matthew McConaughey, Don Chedell, I mean, I'm always in awe of people that can act. because it's similar to golf in a way because you can't be afraid of making a fool of yourself

when you're an actor. I mean, you just got to hang it all out there. And I really admire people that can do that. So when you're interviewing somebody, right? Like we're doing obviously with you right now, it's always you're trying to focus. Is that what this is? Yeah, we're recorded.

No, we actually are. We just like to have the, we just like to see David Ferry every like once a year. Those are the three words. Those are the three words. that you never want to hear in broadcasting. Are we on? Yeah. You're trying to kind of run through and go the direction. You want to go and stick to an outline or whatever it is. When you look across it, it's a president.

Yeah. Does that cravatas? Is that kind of weight of that change things dramatically? Because we've never talked to a president before. Well, yeah. I mean, it does. It's, you know, the commander-in-chief, the head honcho, you know, the whole lot. you mean you don't want to and and again you know I mean you if you're doing it properly you do want to hang it all out there but you don't want to hang it out so much that somebody hits it with a baseball bat you know right and I would imagine the things like interviewing a president is obviously nerve wracking but the the surrounding area that I bet there's a lot of things you

have to go through to be like just there's because it's the president so there's got to be people everywhere secret service everywhere is that bring up the nerves a lot yeah there's several layers of things that you've got to go through along Alongside, you know, the normal broadcast aspect of it, you know, getting into the White House, you know, things like that. Getting into Trump Tower. Getting out of Trump Tower. Sort of like a Tesla as well. It's just like coming into here.

Yeah, yeah, it is. You know, it's very intimidating, you guys. Yeah. What's the, what's like the most awkward moment you've had interviewing somebody? Wow, the most awkward moment I've had. Well, I mean, there are awkward moments in every interview, but we managed to edit them out, usually. Larry David, there were, you know, a couple of answers where, I mean, Larry isn't acting. That's just Larry.

Yeah. You know, he's got that paranoid kind of, you know, wonderful sense of humor. And I really enjoyed the interview. But, I mean, there were moments where I thought, you know, this is a cracked mirror. You know, there is something wrong with this man. Yeah. it's uh you know he's he he'll go like left when you expected to go right uh and things like that i mean he he uh he actually offered me a hundred grand or maybe it was 50 grand not to air the show

the minute we said it was wrapped he said i'll give you 50 grand not to air this i sucked no and he didn't what yeah that's just how he works it must be he's just like so critical he's just like yeah that was terrible that was terrible he's incredibly critical of himself you know with no need to be. I remember there's a documentary about the South Park guys and they would talk about how they would, you know, they would come up with a show in one week. They would basically start from scratch and have it on the air within a week.

And they would say, you know, they would be so included in all the editing and this, that. They're so topical. Right. And by the time they sent it to the network, they're like, we hated it. Every single show we sent, we hated it. We despised it. We thought it was the worst, least funniest thing in the world. And so it's interesting to hear.

Well, that was actually, that is, I think, part of the funny part about South Park is, you know, it's so bad in places that it's actually good. Yes. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Like, the character, like, even the drawings, they're just so juvenile that, like, it's like, that it's like, that it's what makes it funny. Respect my authority. Amazing.

Yep. We just talked yesterday about how Larry David has cornered, like, the market on, whenever you're in a situation, like, you're waiting online for coffee and someone cuts in front of you. And then, like, someone gets mad at you, you're like, this is a Larry David. David curb episode. Every time you're in a situation, you can now say, like, oh, this is a curb episode. Like, someone just said it yesterday. Like, someone got cut in the line for a bathroom and then someone yelled at him. He's like, what am I in a curb episode?

It's amazing that he's cornered that market of just awkward and interactions is just a Larry David moment. Yeah. So I can imagine it is tough to interview a guy who is famous for creating awkward and, like, oh, what you do type moments. Because at any moment, he can just call you out for something. Yeah. And, you know, I think Monty Python were, you know, kind of innovators in that, especially John Cleese, if you ever saw the series Faulty Towers.

I haven't, no. Well, you are missing something. They only made, I think, 12 or 13 episodes. And the funniest thing that you will ever see in your life, John Cleese, and Fulte Towers, yeah. All right. There was a sign. Fulte Towers was a hotel in Torquay in southern England. And the sign was an...

They made it, you know, they mixed up the letters. You know, every week it would say Faulty Towers, you know, one week and then it would say flowery twats. You know, which is actually, you know, using all the letters. You know, really a clever show. It's got to feel with Larry David like mental chess the whole time. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it does. Is it like exhausting?

At the end of a show, you know, because we'll do some shows, you know, you're on the air for six hours. And you've got to be on your toes. You've got to watch that monitor all the time and, you know, be careful. You know, what you say. And, I mean, I'll have four, you know, sometimes five holes. And that's how golf works. You know, whenever it comes to that hole, you know, you open your own mic. At least we do it NBC.

We open our own microphones. And we have a, you know, a terrific system there where, you know, you can cut in. and it's, you know, I've got four or five screens on a big monitor where I can watch all of my holes. It's one of the differences there. I can watch all the holes that I have, you know, when I'm not on the air, you know, so that I know what's going on when I do come to a hole and I'll know what has happened, how the players got there. Right.

Anybody ever abused that I'm on air thing? You ever like, God, Gary just won't stop going on that. Yeah, I mean, there are people that you think are paid by the word. You know, at times, you know, it can happen without, you know, naming any names. Let's talk a little professional golf. Do you remember a time when golf's kind of been this exciting where you have kind of a coming together of even the different generations with how well Tiger was playing at the end of last year?

He's going to be the reigning master's champ. He's looked good the last five or six times that he's teed up. Even Phil now has got a couple top, I think, fives or threes in his last couple starts. Yeah. And then going against the young generation with obviously Morikawa bringing up, you know, those guys bringing up the youngest guys, but even the guys that are around 30 with Rory and Brooks and DJ, how good of a place is professional golf at that? I mean, it's in a fantastic place now, especially with the return of Tiger Woods.

one of the great comebacks in the history of sports, really a testament to his character and his strength of will and his ability to overcome the physical aspect of it as well. It's just been astonishing. I've been with him since he was a kid on the golf course. I watched this happen over the years, the good and the bad. You've got that group of players that you mentioned that grew up with Tiger Woods, having set the bar,

And they thought, well, you know, I can get there. And, you know, they, I mean, I never thought that I would see another player in my lifetime hit the kind of shots that Tiger Woods hit in his prime. And, you know, I'd be honest, I still haven't, you know, to that level. But, boy, I mean, they're awful close. And I don't think anybody has made the game look prettier than Rory McElroy. But these guys, I mean, they're Tiger Woods's opposition. They are Tiger Woods's fault.

You know, he brought this on himself. Right, yeah. It's interesting from the Rory interview I referenced earlier where he talked a lot about playing with Tiger in the final group, playing against him in the awesome match play where he lost and how he thought that he was prepared for those things, but ultimately he was very, very upset with himself afterwards to the point where he started keeping a journal because he's kind of like I legitimately grew up

and my sole purpose was to get in these positions where I could play against my hero, Tiger Woods, and I didn't play up to my standards. How different is Tiger's approach now versus even a couple years ago where he's kind of, he was buddy buddy and he was almost a mentor. We call him like a Yoda-like figure. To now it's like careful what you wish for, boys, on the other end because Tiger's back. Yeah, he is and he's a different person. and I think the team aspect has been tremendously influential on Tiger Woods

where he feels like he's a part. You know, he was on his own, a loner for so long and, you know, unapproachable in a way for many of these players. And now, you know, they're not afraid to approach him. He is absolutely generous, you know, with advice in the same way that Jack Nicholas, is to this day. You know, the young players can approach him and ask for, you know, advice like that.

It's been amazing to see him change over the years to a player that feels like, you know, he's a part of, you know, every team, excuse me, every team, Presidents' Cup, Rider Cup. And he'll be a Ryder Cup captain. Obviously, he will, if he's not, you know, I'll be interested. to see if he'll be a playing captain of a writer cup because that's entirely possible. I think the last one was, it might have been Hogan, you know, way, way back in the 50s. Yeah.

You think he kind of wants that challenge? Do you think it helps, it makes it more likely that nobody's done it since Hogan? Well, he wants every challenge. He has so many records now in golf with the cuts made being the most unassailable, 140 something cuts in a row. I mean, that's staggering. It's staggering. I think the closest to him might be in the 30s or 40s, something like that. Do you think Jack sits up in night thinking about Tiger? No. You don't think he cares?

Oh, he cares, yeah, but I don't think it keeps him up at night. You know, Jack knows that records are made to be broken, the whole lot. And I think he probably still feels, you know, in a pretty good position. you know, as good as Tiger is, you know, getting to 19. I've got to be honest. The only mistakes I've ever made, but Tiger has been when I've underestimated him. That's it because he is, I mean, he's got his eye on that record, that's for sure.

But, I mean, I don't think Jack worries about it at all, no. It's interesting. We've talked about it a lot. It's like, you know, he's got all these years when Tiger slipped and it seemed like it was never going to come, and now he makes this huge comeback. It's almost like the boogeyman came back where it's like, you know, Jack was sailing into the sunset

and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, boy, I better start watching these tournaments again because this guy can win at any time. We said on this show, Jack might start teeing it up again. Yeah. Come out of retirement. Right. Yeah, that would be a comeback. That's for sure. But, you know, and you talk about how great and friendly Jack's been

and he has been about as perfect of a role model and a golf superstar and the goat, the greatest of all time that you can be. But he also has to, in order to have won 18 majors and 70 plus tournaments and be considered the greatest player ever play the game, he has to have, obviously, an insane competitiveness. Oh, you have to have some asshole in you, almost. So part of that is always going to be inside of him. Part of him has to be thinking like, okay, yeah, I'm in the clubhouse at 18, but this guy was off the golf course

and then all of a sudden he came back on the back nine and he was fucking making birdies what the hell has to he has to be thinking like he's not going to get there is he right there been very few players throughout history you know that haven't had that hard edge to them

Rory McElroy is one absolutely no asshole and that boy Nick Price was another you know but off the top of my head I can't think of anybody else It's a short list Yes, it's a short list

And that doesn't mean That every other player was an asshole What about like Zach Johnson? Sorry? What about like Zach Johnson? Oh, Zach Johnson, absolutely There's no asshole in him But I'm not sure that Zach got the number one in the world

No, he didn't No, I'm talking about guys They've got made the very pinnacle He's very nice walking around the John Deer Classic We're talking about an upper echelon type of person Yeah, Trent from Iowa Yeah, so they like to make fun John Deere, it's a tournament that's near and dear to my heart. I've been trying to recruit

golfers to come. Mine too. Yeah. I did, I think, 19 John Dears. And, you know, one of my very favorite places in all the world is Davenport and, you know, Moline, Rock Island. Yes. It's in Silvas. It's the Quad Cities. Yeah, the Quad Cities. I mean, I love the place. I love the people, love the community aspect of that tournament. And, you know, it was always one of my favorites one one that i miss what Trent slip you a hundred bucks or something yeah what's going on that that was great that's we're going to have to clip that for sure so the tiger craze uh you know we're witnessing now media has never been uh as omnipresent as it is now with social media with phones with people being able to put up their own organic coverage everywhere with the crowds being covered

from different ways do you feel like the tiger craze is similar to what it was when he was at his peak when you were covering them? Is it less? Is it more? How is it compared to, you know, peak Tiger? Well, I think it's different in that, you know, there's a sense of disbelief at this moment in Tiger's history, if you like, where that didn't exist when he was at his peak. You know, people just believed, you know, that he could win six or seven in a row and they were right. So, you know, there's a sense of disbelief and a sense of anticipation now that wasn't there, you know, around the 2000s. Right.

Yeah, we talk a lot about the fact that it feels like we are now watching live, what we assumed forever we would only be able to watch on replay. Yeah. We would only be able to watch on the Internet or on YouTube or if Golf Channel does a highlight show, shout out to Golf Channel. But, you know, and then all of a sudden we're kind of blessed with, like, this unexpected opportunity to watch someone create the history that we thought we would only get to watch in the past.

Yeah. Well, for anyone that is interested in golf that loves to watch golf, it's an incredible privilege to have watched it in the Tiger Woods era. Just like it was an incredible privilege to watch Jack, you know, in his prime, watch Hogan, watch Bobby Jones, watch old Tom Morris. Old Tom Morris was playing with a badger's testicle stuffed with seagull feathers. You know, games come on a little bit since then. What do you make of Brooks Kevka?

You guys, a little water trouble there? Yeah, a little water. Bottles are a little aggressive. Yeah, it was. It's a tough, it's a tough nozzle. Yeah, these squirt bottles, you know, they're like a, you know, I need a sippy cup. I rip that squirt thing right off. Oh, yeah, see, that's smart.

Yeah, there you go, Fred. Yeah, well, you're talking to somebody who couldn't get out of a car. Good point. What do you make of Brooks Kepka in his whole approach? You know, we talked about kind of the graceful champion versus people with a little more asshole in him. Yeah. How do you view his approach in a lot of the comments he's made? You know, it's different.

We have, you know, between Brooks Kepka and Bryson DeShambos, you know, they're like Gulf's Kardashians. It's, you know, there's a kind of a trashiness to it that's just fine. It's like the Phoenix Open. You don't want it all the time. you know, that kind of atmosphere, but, you know, it's a refreshing change, you know, just to see that. And, you know, Brooks is not afraid to be Brooks.

And I like him very much. Same as, I mean, I like Bryson too. You know, he's watching a movie that only he can see. Yeah, and it's different. It really is. Because, you know, for a long time, or for periods of time anyway, you know, golf has been, you know, it can be kind of boring.

for sure definitely especially to kind of the casual sports fan yeah exactly you know and tiger woods he uh he he brought a different uh different demographic to the sport you know your your ordinary person that uh you know just just wants to see great sport you know sport played at a high level yeah that wouldn't have been interested in golf otherwise so patrick reed has had his incidents over the last several months yeah down at the hero uh with you know, the bunker incident, a lot of folks calling him a cheater. He sent a cease and assist letter to Brando Chambly, who we talked about that with Brando last week. Yeah.

How do you feel about kind of Patrick Reed's situation? Is he ever going to kind of get past this? Does he deserve to? Where do you sit on this? Well, Patrick is really, really different in that, you know, people call him Captain America. I call him Captain Oblivious. he's uh you know it just doesn't it rolls off his back like you know a duck with water um he uh his his reaction to the uh incident in the bahamas you know for me was uh pretty amazing you know

if something if you do something like that um you know the only way to soften the blow you know if you like is to it's to say that you didn't realize that that was the rule which in this would have been marginally, you know, unbelievable as well. It's just one of those things. I was on the airplane with him, you know, from there to Australia, that charter flight. And it was as if nothing had happened. I mean, really as if nothing had happened. And the players, you know, that he was with, just at least for that, you know, flight, you know, there and back,

you know, it seemed to feel the same. way like nothing had happened like nothing that happened yeah do you think with a team aspect you sort of have to yes yeah i think that played a uh a big part of it that's for sure so you've had patrick on the show i mean what is he what is he like in person even even off camera because we've heard nothing really but good things for the most part yeah um he's uh he's personable uh you know an interesting character that that's for sure um he he has a very uh interesting history, you know, family life, you know, things like that. I think his mother-in-law is his financial advisor.

A little red flag there. I did not know that. We knew a lot and we get into his family situation a lot. We didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, there's an outside chance I could be wrong. We also say that a lot. Certainly, you know, very influential in that aspect.

You never get rid of that. You know, Vijay Singh was another, you know, that never got rid of that, you know, that sort of stigma that comes with it. That's just one of the things that you don't do in professional golf. And if you do, it's going to stay. Is there a part of Patrick Reed, you know, that you think understands that in order to be Patrick Reed and the best golfer that it can be, that he sort of has to have that me versus the world approach or Captain Oblivious or whatever you want to call him? Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, he's dealt with, you know, the similar sort of accusations, if you like, you know, throughout his career, you know, in college and that kind of thing.

And it's just, it's sort of a shadow, you know, back there that is going to follow him. You know, that light is always going to shine on him. I mean, there's always going to be that shadow that's left over. And I think that his attitude is a self-defense against that. How important is kind of understanding your own attitude even towards the other players of professional golf? I mean, you were clearly a very accomplished rider-couper, played at an incredibly high level. We've seen guys like Nick Faldo, who people talk all the time about when he played professionally, you couldn't get a word out of him, and now all of a sudden he's one of the-

faces of golf broadcasting. We've talked about Tigers transformation from sort of a Darth Vader, like robot who won't give you anything to all of a sudden he's, you know, a team guy, he's boys with everybody. How important to the success of a professional golfer is sort of understanding your relationship with the same people that you're trying to basically beat and take money from every single week? It depends on the individual player. You know, you get someone that doesn't need friends when. they played and Nick Falter was one of them. You know, he had dinner with his manager every night

and he, you know, he practiced harder than anybody else. He just wanted to be number one in the world and he devoted all of his attention to that for as long as he played, you know, competitively. And, you know, you have to admire him for that, you know, sacrificing, you know, those things. I mean, I learned more about Sir Nick in the first 10 minutes of him being a broadcaster than I did in 20 years of playing with him. Right. How was, who was your favorite player growing up? You know, we're gigantic Tiger Woods fans. We watch every shot he hits.

Who was your favorite player growing up? Well, I grew up in an era, you know, where it was Jack Nicholas. And in my playing career, you know, I'd have to say, you know, Nick Price, Ernie else, by Astaireus were the guys that I really admired, you know, that I played alongside. And there are, you know, there are countless others that I admired as well. But, you know, off the top of my head, those are three that stick out, especially Nick Price. I think maybe the most underappreciated player, you know, in possibly in golf history. People forget that he was number one in the world.

And, you know, he was so personable and such a nice person. that he didn't have that hard edge that everybody else had. He was funny when other people were assholes. And, you know, he's not really involved in the game now, you know, and I think that, you know, the game misses Nick Price. So you mentioned Ernie Ells. Well, actually, really quick, we have a funny Nick Price story, which here at Barstall, we have a little person.

His name is Zah. He's from Zimbabwe. Right. And so we brought him to Shinnecock because we were doing this challenge where our boss, like the leader of Barstool, the guy who started this, was doing a Mulligan challenge, unlimited Mulligan challenge at Shinnecock before the U.S. Open. They allowed him to hit as many shots as he needed and whatever his score was going to be, he was going to try and beat the winner from the year previous. It was a whole crazy challenge. Anyway, we brought Zah to the golf course and he had never like, he never thought like he was going to be a part of any golf content. And he's like, why am I going out to the Shinnok Hills?

He didn't even know where the hell he was going. Right. And we bring him there. And then all of a sudden, he walks up to the driver range, and Nick Price is standing there, which is like, he knows, that's a legend to him because he's like, this is our guy. Zimbabwean, yeah. This is our athlete that, like, made it over here. He came over and he's a legend.

And they shared a great moment. He got down because Zazia is a little person. And he got down and hugged him, took a picture. It was very, very funny and cool moment. We were like, what are the odds that we bring a Zimbabwe in? And Nick Price is standing right there on the drive. I had tears in his eyes. He was going crazy. He couldn't believe it.

But he was the nicest guy ever asked him where he was from, what his parents do the whole thing. Yeah, absolutely. It's very interesting to see, like, just different icons and different countries. Because there's a lot of people here who the hell is Nick Price. We were, like, I was just like, oh, yeah, I didn't recognize him immediately. And then Zah just went running over to him. It was crazy.

So Ernie else, he had for the President's Cup, you know, about his tough of, of a hill to climb as you can have with, you go through their entire roster, the international challenges of different countries, different languages. Yes. Playing against the American team, they did have the home soil. How good of a job did Ernie Ells do as captain of the international team? I mean, Ernie is one of the most popular players ever to play the game. Again, you know, it's one I should have mentioned that doesn't have any asshole in him.

You know, just a wonderful person and a great character, misunderstood, I think, in a lot of ways off the golf course, because he loves a few beers. He loves a few dozen beers, perhaps, and that does not make him a bad person as far as I'm concerned. It is, it's extremely difficult to be a captain of that international side because of those reasons that you mention, you know, the difference in languages alone, you know, no one who to partner with who is a great deal more difficult than it than it is, you know, from the American side. So which tournament this year are you most excited to cover?

You still get kind of that excitement of going, you know, on site? Well, you know, the Open Championship is a huge one for me. I always get, you know, so kind of a boner about that. I love that. Yeah, and the Olympics this year, we have. So, you know, and with Tiger in the chase, you know, to get one of those four spots on the American side, you know, if he can get there, that just elevates the interest in that astronomically. So those will be the two events that, you know, we've got the World Golf Championship events,

you know, the players, which is huge, no, and deserves major championship status. You know, so we've got a lot of those on the playoff events at the end of the year on NBC. There's a lot I look forward to, but the open championship and the Olympics standout. You think it's better that the players' championship is in March now? Yes, I do. I think it's more, you know, it's a linear thing in Florida, you know, where you get that stretch and you're liable to get the different wind where you get 17 into the wind. It's much more likely in March.

And, you know, the finish there is like the Green Mile at the players. It's one of the most nerve-wracking finish. issues in golf. I think the move to March, you know, with that strong, you know, wind, I kind of remember what direction is from, but I think it's from the north, that makes the last, you know, so difficult as well if you get it. Any gamblers out there, me and three buddies last year went in on a group bet. It's a very fun one to do, and it was total balls in the water on 17 throughout the whole week. Oh, yeah. And just every time you up to the shot tracer or they just have a camera on 17.

Somebody hits it in the water. Some guys even double dunk getting a little too aggressive with the wedge. You just go crazy. It's incredibly fun to watch. Yeah, it is. I mean, it's a really fun hole. And it's not that difficult to hole. It really isn't.

You see a lot of twos on it. But, you know, you can almost hear the sound of the players clenching. You know, at the top of the back swing, you know, you don't want the clench on the down swing. That's not going to work. Well, David Faradie, we appreciate you. coming in yet again. You've got the premiere of Farity Monday, February 24th, Henrik Stenson's 9 p.m. on Golf Channel. You guys have Scott Van Pelt, Gary Woodland, Charles Schwab, Charles Schwab. I don't know why I keep saying, Swab. Shwab. Suzanne Patterson, it's a great show. It's Emmy

nominated 10 years that you've been doing it, which has to feel crazy now at this point. Seven straight weeks of NBC, golf channel coverage. Ten years. A self-titled show for 10 years. It's like people have to love coming on your show. It's all like, you know what I mean? It's not like it's some big entity. It's just you. Well, I mean, it's been amazing, but I've got to say, I've got to congratulate you guys because I remember coming in here in the early days, you know, and what you've turned this into is just astonishing.

It was. I mean, thank you very much. You were by far our biggest guest. Oh, yeah. I was like. Well, despite that. We appreciate that. We appreciate you coming.

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