Fore Play - Day 3 Recap: Major Brooks Is Back, Feat. Nico Echavarria
Episode Date: May 21, 2023Nico Echavarria, fresh off his first major championship, joins the show. Oak Hill stands strong in the elements. Brooks Koepka leads heading into the Final Round. Viktor Hovland and Corey Conners are ...one shot back. What score would you be comfortable posting with a chance to win on Sunday? What would Trent shoot at Oak Hill tomorrow? Is there any relationship between Brooks and Bryson? And much, much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Oh, Rick!
What's that my brother?
I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot.
His name's Frankie Borrelli.
So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he was always knives to the cross the green.
Bro, 100.
Now you've got to break 90s.
We appreciate what you guys do for golf.
It's been really cool.
Thank you.
You're making it cool.
I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99.
And he grabs 100.
He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 a piece yesterday.
He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself.
What?
What are you that different?
It's saying a hobby.
We're live at the, I'm at the PGA championship.
Nico Echafaria, who's one of my low-key favorite guys on the PGA tours,
joining us, longtime Foreplay fan, a winner this year on the PGA tour.
Was it Puerto Rico?
I don't want to get it wrong.
Puerto Rico, yeah.
Puerto Rico open, which for a long time has meant that you will never win another tournament.
Are you aware of the curse?
Not anymore.
Victor and Tony are representing well the tournament.
So not anymore.
That is exactly right.
So Nico played in the PJ Championship this week.
We're obviously seeing, I think he's shot nine over, only one birdie through 36 holes.
How difficult is this golf course compared to the other ones that you guys play on a weekly basis?
Because for us, it looks like a completely different sport.
Well, I talked to my buddy today, Manny.
He's also from Columbia.
Caddy's for Sewell Kim, and he came up to me.
We had different waves, and he said,
man, you shot nine over, and you with only one bird.
You had to play pretty good.
Yeah, I played good.
I just potted awful.
It was a week that I didn't make anything,
but first major,
and it's those types of weeks where,
honestly, I was always in play,
and it was never like a scratch in my head,
okay, how am I going to make part from here?
How am I going to make bug bogey from here?
So it was kind of, I was keeping it in play.
I just, I just didn't make anything.
I didn't take advantage of the holes that you have to take advantage.
And major golf is, it's just different.
It's a beast.
It's not the same thing we play all year.
Is it just a function of the rough being longer?
Is it the greens faster?
What exactly makes it so much more difficult than, you know,
a regular run-of-the-mill PGA tour course?
I think it's more that if you miss one shot, you're probably going to make mogi.
So at the same time, you're aware in kind of making guidey swings and you're not feeling free.
So like one bad swing, it's almost a guarantee bogey.
So I think it's more of that than anything else.
Obviously, the course is long.
Greens are fast.
There's a lot of collection areas and places where you can't miss.
So it's a little bit of everything.
The weather wasn't great.
But still, the cut was five over and there was not a lot of wins.
Have you played with Brooks at all?
I guess you wouldn't have had a lot of overlap.
But I know you did play.
In Mexico, you got a pretty good group, didn't you?
I played with Tony and I played with Camilo.
Camila was a hero growing up.
Right, because you're from Columbia.
So Camila Vajgas is probably, you know, a god in that country.
Yeah.
When you're playing with Tony, because you're a rookie on the PG,
J-J-A-Tor, you won already this year.
But you've had struggles in the weeks that you haven't won.
What is the gap between a player of your stature and a player of Tony's stature right now?
Obviously, Tony likes that week.
It's kind of wide open.
Mexico is a course where there's not a lot of trouble, and he hits it far.
He hits his long iron's really good.
So I did feel a big gap that week playing with him.
Camila wasn't playing too good.
I made the cut in, I think, by a couple, but I didn't do anything great.
But just seeing Tony stripe it out there, it made me feel like back in Corn Ferry or almost PGA Tour Latin America.
There was a big gap that week.
I mean, let me, I'm going to jump in here real quick.
I got on Wi-Fi.
I ran inside the clubhouse.
We're going to talk about my guy, Brooks Kepka is going to win this golf tournament.
We're going to talk about Brooks Kepka.
What do you mean your guy?
The leader of the PGA championship right now.
We're going to talk about Brooks Kepka.
I put $1,000 on Brooks Kepka this morning to win the PGA championship at 9 to 1.
Brooks Kepka is my guy.
Brooks Kepka, after all the talk, after all the chirping with John Rahm and his caddy and everybody about no stress.
This guy ruined the Masters tournament.
I turned around on Saturday morning in the PGA championship.
Brooks Kepka was minus two.
The leaders were minus five.
Those leaders, which one of them was Scotty Shephyler, who has not been putting it great throughout the entire year, who is ball striking and all that.
A lot of people were on.
I think he was like plus 163 on the Barstall Sportsbook this sporting I saw.
So I drove from Missouri over to Illinois, played a little bit of golf with my buddies.
Once you get into Illinois, you can use the Marshall Sportsbook.
And I saw Brooks Kebke was two under.
The other guys are five under.
And Brooks Kevka was nine to one to win the PGA championship.
So hammered that.
He finished with back-to-back 66s, I believe, and currently, unless Conners did something.
I saw that Dublae Bogie on 16, unless he did something.
I believe Brooks Kepka's a solo leader going to fight around.
Yeah, he's a solo.
I think Connors is still on 18, but I'm not seeing a bird either.
Yeah, he shot 72 the first round.
And then he shot the low round of the day, rounds two and three, 66, the low round of the day both days.
I don't usually get it done.
What's the number at?
Are they, is it five under?
Is that the leads?
Brooks is at six.
Victor Hovlin's at five.
Corey Connors is at five.
And then you know, Grayson at three and Justin.
So it's pretty to thin out a little bit.
It does feel like it's going to be sort of Brooks, Victor, Bryson, Bryson.
I mean, two is still in the mix.
Scotty got in at two, did not play well at all today.
Rory's in the house at one under.
Nico, back to back 66 is on this golf course.
How many times do you think you'd have to play it to shoot back to back 66s?
It's almost like the master's question you guys asked.
Probably 50 times.
Yeah.
It's hard.
50 times to shoot back.
Dude, the course looks impossible.
One of my, I know we talked about yesterday's show.
of my favorite things when those guys hit out of the rough when it's wet like that you just see a giant
splash every time like that's what it feels like for us every time we try to hit out of thick rough
and watching these guys try to hit these shots out of thick rough how about scottie getting that skip
over the creek when he when he hit that like are we i mean as a guy that's a big brooks kefka guy this
weekend you got to hate to see that from scotty where it skips out of the seven i believe yeah guys
are talking about six seven eight and nine just being like one of the toughest churches they've ever played
Seven, they're talking about a lot about six.
I think seven might be my favorite hole I've ever played.
There's so much going on.
You can hit any shot off the tee.
There's trouble.
If you push it, it's pretty much water.
I played with Wyndham, and Wyndham hit two iron off the tee
and he hit it in the water, the first two iron that he hit first day,
and the second day hit in the rough, and it was a disaster.
So it could be my favorite hole out there,
and he got, Scotty got a lucky break out there.
Are you able to, I mean, it sounds like the answer is yes,
but are you able to appreciate a golf course for its design and for its layout,
even when you're playing poorly?
Because I feel like a lot of us, you know, we're talking about Frankie,
how much he, his favorite golf course of all time is Paines Valley.
It's like, well, because you, like you played well and it was wide.
That's right.
It feels like it feels like it's a big, a big factor in most average Joe's opinion of courses,
but it sounds like you're able to do it even if you're getting your teeth kicked in.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so. I think this course was a true test. It's what everyone's saying.
It's, you hit good shots, you've got to be rewarded. And it's not playing impossible.
You just have to be in the fairway, and you have to make a couple of putts. And you can shoot under par out here.
But, yeah, even playing bad, I noticed that some holes are just incredible design.
And it's my first year out here, so a lot of courses, I don't know. So it's also appreciating, like,
For example, in North Carolina, Wells Fargo, that course is incredible.
There's a lot of good courses out here.
So, yeah, even playing bad, I can appreciate good golf courses.
Let's talk a little bit about the microphone situation on the T-boxes,
because that's really stole in the show throughout the first couple of days.
We had Rory, we had Speeith today.
We've had a couple.
Rom has been on one all week.
What is different about the microphone situation location and why are we not
doing this at every single tournament because it has gotten some of the greatest moments we've
seen in major championship history. Whatever they're doing with the mics this week, I need
it done every single week. You also have to know that we don't play this heart of a golf course
every week. So it's so frustrating. Like, for example, you make three parts in a row. You have a good
look on the next hole. You miss it. And then you hit a bad shot. And it's like, you know,
fuck, I made, I'm going to make a bogey or a double bogey here. So it just snaps quick. And
I did notice a lot of microphones right next to the teeth.
So I have an answer for you guys, like a legal answer for you guys.
Okay.
So, yeah.
So the rule is, you know, usually like sports you think are on a delay, like a 10 second delay.
Apparently, you're only required to be on a delay if you're on network television.
So like CBS or NBC, those are on a 10 second delay.
Technically, ESPN is cable television.
So they're not required to do the delay.
So all of the cussing has been on ESC,
Now there is, I think, a general
sort of assumption of decency
and we love it, but the country's a big place.
I'm sure they're going to be getting a lot of...
Are you guys aware of that, Nico?
Yeah, what are you saying, Ray?
Dan, let me ask you this.
For, on barstool.
Dot TV, when we post,
when we, when we broadcast a corn perry tour event,
there's no 10 second delay.
So I assume that we're just going to be
hot micing everyone.
Do you care?
You know, if people hear you cuss?
Is that a thing that's like, you know,
your sponsors get mad or your agents
get mad or is it kind of we're in a new age where people just want to see guys be people
this this is actually a question for you guys maybe you guys know i don't know the answer can we get
fine for this how what's the what's the fine line of getting fined and not if if we break a club is
it automatic fine if we cuss is it an automatic fine i don't know like are those guys is speed
getting fine uh for hitting it in the bunker today on three i would hope not yeah i don't think
yeah i haven't broken a club on tour yet yeah i haven't broken a club this year but i have broken a club
but I don't know where where is the point where I got a fine last year on Cornsbury
because I broke a T-marker but I don't know where do you get a fine that's a
That seems honestly that seems fair if you break a T-marker at the Barstow classic
If you're but like if your reaction is if you're swearing or if you're breaking your own equipment
I don't think that should be a fine and it's kind of like what Dan said we're living in a world where
we want to see what these guys are actually like so you don't want to
not motivate them to be like swearing and being themselves.
It would be my guess.
I just feel like people right now in the world are so soft that they can go out there and say how my kid's never going to watch golf again
because these guys at major tournaments are cussing and we're trying to show,
I'm trying to show my kid a good example of golf, what golf can be.
And so I don't know.
It's just a fine line.
Well, guess what?
Your kid's going to be really soft then.
your kid's going to be the softest person in the world.
That's the case.
You know what's not going to make your kid or hopefully an adult that's 21 plus soft is
a little fireball whiskey shot.
What's the,
we got the old,
the birdie club,
is that what they call it?
They've literally got a golf club that's full of nips,
a fireball.
And if you haven't been there before,
obviously the iconic cinnamon taste,
it's number one birdie shot in the world,
Fireball whiskey.
We had a fantastic event Tuesday.
Nico,
did you end up swinging by on Tuesday,
by the way,
to the old Rock City Spramble.
He saw talk.
I didn't end up going.
I didn't end up going.
I had to go up.
I told Dan I had to go get warm weather or gear.
Yeah, it was cold.
It was cold.
But what was helping people, it was just windy.
It was extremely windy.
It was helping people warm up was obviously that iconic fireball whiskey.
So if you're not aware of Fireball, have you been living under a rock,
if you've been having shades on and just not being able to see your experience the world for,
I don't know, forever for the last 20 years, fireball whiskey, go put those nips in your golf bag.
Go put those little low millimeter nips in there.
Have a great time.
You don't need a shot class.
You don't need ice.
You don't need a whole ordeal.
They literally come in the perfect nips.
Throw them in your golf bag.
Have fun with your pals with the gals,
whoever you're playing with.
We love fireball.
They delivered a fantastic event on Tuesday at a Ronda Coy.
Did you, did you see the golf course when you were playing Oak Hill?
You could see it off of what, 13 or 14, Dan?
Is that where you can see?
Yeah, it's like 15.
It's like left of 16, kind of like behind 14.
Did you notice there was another golf course there?
Yeah.
Wait, I thought.
Didn't Oak Hill have north and south?
They do, but those are, those will be within the, the fence of Oak Hill, and then there's a fence, an exterior fence, and then on the other side of the fence would be around to point.
I did see.
Left of 15, I saw, I saw, yeah.
If you saw any stray golf balls coming with, like, a lot of side spin in your direction, they probably came from our event on Tuesday during the old, the old fireball sponsored Brock City Scramble, which was a great time.
Can you, at this point, so we've got, I believe, Brooks.
is in at six under we've got a couple five unders what do you think if you're going in nico you're
going in this final round you're brooks kebker you're one of these guys that's in the top five
top six what's a number at this point that you would be comfortable posting tomorrow night
and feel like you got a shot at winning i think it's going to be a little windy the weather's
going to be fine it's just going to be a little windy i don't know if the wind's going to pick up
probably the guys that are even right now have a chance maybe maybe one under have a chance
I think if you're under par as an over par as in now, you don't have a chance.
So probably, I would say, seven or eight is a good number.
Eight under is pretty solid.
There's not a lot of people bunched up.
So that helps.
I honestly think Brooks is going to get away with it and shoot two or three under and win.
So I think you're going to cash out rigs.
Let's go.
I got to tell you, I feel really good about that bet coming in.
it feels like for whatever reason in these major championships,
it almost felt like Rory in 2011 a little bit,
where going into the Masters,
Brooks was obviously the guy.
He was the lock.
He had a four-stroke lead.
It felt like when we were inning play on Saturday,
and they came out Sunday morning.
He finished the third round.
Ended up being a two-stroke swing right away with a bogey-burty versus Rom.
And then obviously,
Lee Doyle, League Doyle, Leak Doyle,
Ron won pretty handedly, no stress.
Ended up high.
Second Brooks Kefka did.
It felt to me like it was going to be,
one of those situations where Brooks is that guy. Brooks is playing well. He had won on live before.
Yeah, he had a big time disappointment of the Masters tournament, but he's going to turn right
around. He's going to play extremely well. And having seen him at night, I cannot believe he was
nine to one being only three shots back going into the third round. So I like where we're sitting.
They tried to offer me a cash out like they're the bank in deal or no deal. And obviously I said no.
But yeah, I appreciate that because I think Brooks Kepka's looking really good going to the far-out.
I bet on Rory.
I need Rory.
Rory's at one under.
He was at like three under early in the day when I bet on him.
I got him at plus $750.
I just don't think it's going to happen.
But boy, would I like to see Rory win.
That would make me very happy.
But backwards-hound where I thought was going to take over the world.
Yeah, a lot of backward tats.
A lot of backwards hat chatter.
It seems to be a pretty straightforward explanation to me, but I'll let the professional golfer explain
why these guys were going backwards hat.
Do you remember when Furik won the FedEx coach?
Yeah, it was Jim Ferrick.
Yeah, when he got up and down from that bunker, he did the back for it's out.
So it was pouring.
And if you start seeing drops of water coming down, that kind of, it's almost like the hoodie putting when you have the strings.
But you can't, you don't like it.
So you put it underneath.
Same thing with the water coming down.
So they just turn it around so the water doesn't drop.
I'd also say it shows how inside the box golf is as a, as a whole where.
two guys turn their hats around and it's like,
what the fuck is going on?
So, you know, we got a long way to go
with that type of stuff in golf.
Dude, we got the longest way to go.
It was the main storyline.
It was like people at this golf course,
Spencer T. Olin and Alton, Illinois,
were walking around and being like,
did you guys see those guys in that major championship?
Their hats were on, not floor,
their hats were on backwards.
Like, they were facing the other direction.
People were like, turn that fucking TV on.
I got to see their shit.
So, yeah, you know.
I noticed something cool today.
When Justin Saw was about to tee off,
I know Dan's a big Manchester United fans.
They yelled the Ronaldo Zoo.
So it was pretty funny.
The Manchester Day got a big win today.
Thank you very much, Nico.
I saw that.
What kind of action we got coming down the stretch in the Premier League here?
Things are tight, right?
No, it's over.
It's over.
Small club.
Fake club.
They won the Premier League for the third year and around.
I saw some video that was like unbelievable scenes at the Etihad
And then it was like four people around being like, yay, they're a small club.
It's a fake club.
They've won three in a row.
Yeah, they've won three in a row.
It's a problem.
And they're in the championship final.
And they're playing in the FAA Cup final against Man United on June 4th, maybe.
It might be the best football it has ever been played in the history of sport.
Yeah, they're a bit of a wagon right now.
They're very, very tough to beat.
Well, I saw what did I see?
I saw like the Premier League put out Instagram, I guess, this morning.
or something and it was like will there be another magical moment and it showed a bunch of the final
moments from the last 10 or 15 years yeah yeah yeah and i was like oh maybe there's going to be
something electric and apparently it was just a snooze fest i was wrong about that nico all of the
south americans have gone to live golf are you feeling lonely as a south american
tour yeah it's it's been a common trend um i saw mito and joaquin this week i haven't seen them
in a long time.
Yeah, they
lived took over
Latin American golf. Obviously, they
wanted to dominate
the international market. They did a good
move by
taking them. They have a
good team. They have a good talent
here, and they have good players in
Latin America that are playing
for live, and they did
a smart move.
I'm not going to move
from where I am. I have
two years in my pocket with the PGA and I'm happy where I am.
And you got a hell of a perk.
So I was asking Niko why he's staying in Rochester and he said,
oh, he's going to New York City with this girl next week.
And I said, oh, where are you staying?
Tell us about this little perk that the PGA tour players get.
Yeah, we get two, seven nights for free at Omni hotels.
So I'm using two of the nights.
I think the hotels in Soho might be wrong.
but using those.
I'm going to Columbia next week, so that'll be cool.
I'm having my first tournament, junior tournament, AJGA.
First time an AJGA event is going to be played in Latin America and South America.
Sorry, so I'm going to be there.
Yeah.
That's incredible.
Do you know our guys, the one Columbia guys?
One punt Columbia.
One putt Columbia?
You know these guys?
I do know them.
Yeah, I do know them.
I don't know them very well.
I love these guys.
I bet they're going to be all over that.
probably your biggest. I mean, these guys are, so we're, we're very seriously considering in the next
year, June, going down to Columbia doing a travel series solely because we love these guys so much.
They're awesome. They've done a good job. I mean, honestly, covering golf in Columbia is, it's not
easy. So getting news out there and getting something to get people going, it's hard. And I think
they do a good job doing that without much to talk about. And I think it would be very cool for you
guys to you got to come with us to go there and play yeah absolutely absolutely i would be there uh yeah
i can't imagine the columbia golf scene like you said it's got to be a pretty niche situation down there
is that right there's a lot of different um courses and types of course the in vogata that is the
capital that's the ball goes forever it's it's higher than denver uh where i'm from it's called medijin
that's kind of the second second biggest city uh it's it's probably perfect weather all year between
65 and 80 the whole year.
And the other place is probably Cartagena that is right next to the coast.
It's always warm there.
I'm going to a bachelor party in a couple weeks.
Bachelor party in Columbia.
Yeah, I know.
It's a crazy.
What a move.
We were like, what about Miami?
He's like, now let's do Cartagena.
What about Nashville?
He's like, no.
Yeah.
It's like, can we do?
We're going big.
He's definitely going big.
Yeah, we're going to need some notes from that, Dan.
I want you to open up a notes app and just take a couple notes from the experience and tell us about it.
I'm excited.
You know, the South America is somewhere.
I wanted to go there for a couple weeks for the honeymoon.
It's not going to happen because I get overruled and basically all matters, but I wanted to.
What did you guys think of Brooks and Bryson getting booed on the first tea today?
Was that because of the live stuff or was it because they are just generally unliked individuals?
It's got to be lived, right?
It's got to be live-based because, I mean, there's plenty of unliked golf.
that don't get booed on the first tee in a major championship.
It just hasn't happened at all.
Like this was the first time it felt like it's ever really happened.
Which would be weird because it's been a while and it feels like the heat is kind of out of the situation.
I guess New York fans are just different.
I guess like, yeah, but Western New York's not, you know, or upstate New York, I guess, as most people call it.
I don't know.
I felt like a little bit almost some of the booing might have been like booing the situation.
Like the two of them and their rivalry and they're bickering and they're.
like, you know what I'm saying?
I kind of agree with this.
Booing like the situation more than any individual.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I can't get,
I can't put my finger on it.
It was strange.
I'll say it's great for golf that in a major championship with a group that's near
the leader is getting booed on the first D because of everything that's going on.
That is great.
Like people are into that.
That brings the juice a little bit.
That's kind of what we needed this week.
Bryson is huge for the juice factor.
And Brooks is huge for the juice quotient.
Like it's got the PMT of.
he was in the mix of the Masters
to have him back again.
If there was any doubt that the Masters was a fluke,
there's absolutely no doubt anymore.
Nico, when you watch Brooks playing like this,
what kind of sticks out to you about
the way he's able to kind of dissect these major championship golf courses?
I have a more interesting question for you guys.
What do you think of their relationship?
Their relationship?
Like, honest, their relationship.
Do you think they ever, like, hated?
It is a good question because there's just so much history there.
but I think in present day,
I think there is zero relationship.
I think at one point,
they would go back and forth.
And then when they did the match,
it all got way too corporate,
so it wasn't as badass and cool
as we all wanted it to be.
Nobody even really watched that match.
And now that they've both taken these gigantic paychecks,
I think they don't even think about each other anymore.
I agree.
I think it's pretty not-existent.
And I think even in the moment,
I think more of it was Brooks leaning into the reaction to it
and being like, wow, I'm kidding, like all this.
You know, like, people were enjoying that I'm bollying this guy.
And then people took over, right?
Like the crowds took over, were yelling Brooksie at Bryson.
It was rad on him.
And there were the few instances.
But I bet they actually with one another had virtually no relationship.
Like, I don't know that they've ever really talked very much.
I think they did their match thing.
They all made a good amount of money from that.
They did the live and now to transplant.
I bet that now they have almost no relationship.
Like, I bet they barely spoke today or barely speak ever.
I remember one of the first fights that I ever had attention to was Floyd in Delaware,
and there was lead up to it with like these shows on HBO.
And I thought that they absolutely despise.
I remember those shows.
24-7.
I thought these guys were just, they wanted to kill each other.
And then the, you know, the bell goes off at the end and they're hugging each other.
And they basically are like, yeah, we made a bunch of money together.
It's not that serious.
I think it's one of those situations where they both realized it was mutually beneficial.
And now it's just kind of done.
But I will say the live guys, and I don't know if you see this Nico too, but like the live guys do seem to kind of hang together because it's sort of like an us versus them situation.
They do kind of have something in common.
They're almost like sad puppies, honestly, out here.
And it feel bad because it's a, it's a decision that if they put it in the table for me, I would think about it.
I'm not going to say I would go or not.
But it's like they come out here and they feel like they're embarrassed and they feel like they're ashamed of what they did.
So they kind of eat with each other.
They play practice with each other.
I don't think anyone cares.
Maybe Rory went a little too far with some comments that he did.
But honestly, I don't care playing practice.
I played a practice round with Patrick Reed this week.
And it was fine.
There's still people, and some of them are nicer than others.
But I don't know.
It's just I think they are a little embarrassed.
Is there an element of disdain towards the fact that they're shooting the tour
and that they've tried to have their cake and eat it too.
Like, I get as human beings that nobody's going to hate them,
you're not going to hate them.
It's like, you said, Patrick Reed in person is a nice enough guy.
We've talked to it.
Hell, me and Frankie were like his media mouthpiece during the 2020 U.S.
Open and Wingfoot.
Like Patrick Reed's a nice enough guy.
But do you think there's an element of that creeps in with a lot of guys
of the fact that they have sued the PGA tour,
that they have been like we got paid some guys, 10 million, 15 million,
100 million.
And then we're also trying to get X, Y, and Z from the PGA tour.
I think maybe someone like Rory, someone that is big enough on the PJ
tour, I consider myself a rookie, so I'm not going to defend the PGA tour
because I haven't built the PGA tour.
I wanted Puerto Rico an opposite field event.
I'm not making the decisions out here.
Maybe the big guys do, but I don't care.
I mean, honestly, it's almost better for golf if a lift guy wins this week and makes chaos
out there and we still keep growing and growing and growing and make the sport bigger.
So in my opinion, I don't care, honestly.
I think it is great for your bank account if a live guy wins this week.
I think it's inevitably good.
Absolutely.
I mean, you've become a professional golfer at a really good time.
Yep.
I'll say that much because this is the right time to be a pro golfer.
You want against guys that are unbelievably good at golf.
Like that's so good.
That just is what it is.
You beat a field of, I don't care of its opposite field.
or whatever.
Like those,
how many players in that were in the top 100,
top 100, top 150 in the world at this sport that tens of millions of people play
and you beat the best.
Like you beat,
you beat very close to just the best people that can possibly play the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a good week.
It was a dream week.
Obviously,
it would have been better at a different event where I would have gotten myself into
the Masters,
but I still,
I would take it any day guaranteeing myself too,
two more years out here is it's just awesome we got to do something in columbia man we got to do
something in like in south america and columbia that would be we're we're due for that too
many things are pointing that we need to do that do you guys get uh on spotify or or different
things you guys get the countries that listen to you the most i wonder what the country and
in south america listens to you guys the most i'm sure we could find that out that would
actually be really interesting i bet we could look at that data that can't be that hard
we lost him you might have lost eco
That's all right.
That's fine.
I think we're pretty much wrapped up.
I bet we're big in Chile.
That feels like where we're just the biggest.
What's the biggest?
What's the most populous country in South America?
Brazil, right?
Brazil.
Right?
But golf is not really big there at all.
Right.
So it might be Columbia or might be one of these countries where like Argentina.
We've just, we've spread via golf, the golf world and we get thousands of listeners
or something in a random South American country.
Where do those one putt Columbia guys?
Where are they based out of, I wonder?
Are they just Columbia?
I'm not sure.
So, Dan, the high elevation city that he mentioned, there's a corn fairy tour event there
this year, I believe, because that's where Alistair, we did the show last week with Alistair and his
Caddy Sam, and they were talking about when they went to Columbia and guys had like, you know,
guns basically protecting them and they played at a place that the elevation was like $8,000 or something feet.
It was insane.
So the ball was going on fire.
Yeah.
Columbia or South America sneaky has very, the Andes Mountains are very, very high.
I would like to go down there.
We hit some absolute bombs.
And Nico, I'm telling you, this guy is a big for-play fan.
He's one of the coolest dudes out here.
He'll come and show us around.
It'll be a great time.
I appreciate Nico jumping in here on our little put-together fireball, whiskey recap pod.
He obviously played in the tournament.
He told us a little bit what it's like.
I'm all in on Brooks Kevka, the tomorrow fellas.
I'm going to be sweating it hard.
I'm flying back to Arizona at 7 a.m.
So I've got to get up at about 5 a.m.
here in St. Louis.
flying back at my whole setup.
I'm going to watch.
I'm going to listen to every word of the entire day.
And then immediately we're going to go do our recap pot.
So we'll have another kind of post-major championship podcast tomorrow.
There's our guy.
You got any final thoughts, Nico?
Any final thoughts going into the final route?
As in who's going to win, score?
What?
Boom.
The floor is yours.
Give me some general sentiments going to the final route.
Yeah, we hear you.
I like Victor.
I think he's due to win a major.
This is the golf course.
The only problem, I feel like it's fade out here.
A lot of ferry slope left or right where trouble is kind of goes away.
I guess the fairways are a little softer right now, so it doesn't matter much.
I like Victor and but honestly beating Brooks on a, on a major in tough conditions.
It's going to be, it's going to be very, very hard.
After he lost the Masters the way he did and he feels he feels like that one was,
going to be meaningful to him, he's not going to lose this one. We'll see. I mean, he said that on the
broadcast. Of course, and you make bogey, bogey. He said that on the broadcast. He said to Amanda
renter, he said, I know what happened. It sucks. It was terrible. I guarantee it doesn't happen
again tomorrow. So we'll see. He set the, uh, he set the guy. I don't love that. I kind of
love that. Dude, like when he had those, he said, he said, you're not going to have the same guy you
had Sunday at the master or something like that. I don't like that. He had those same kind of comments going
into the final round at Harding Park and then played like an ass clown.
So I don't love that as a guy that's back in Brooks Kevka going to his final round.
I wish you would kind of shut his mouth and focus on the golf.
But hopefully I'm wrong.
Hopefully he gets it done.
All right.
I know it's a long shot, but one under.
He's right there.
He's one under.
He's right there.
He's playing.
He was at three under.
He was seven back.
On the front.
Yeah, but that's like, that can't happen two years in a row.
It doesn't need to.
He's two shots closer.
True.
It's not as many.
Listen, I hope it happened.
Trent, what do you think you would shoot out here?
Oh, God.
Well, they do this thing every year,
and Dan's been talking about it,
where it's like,
what would an 18 handicap shoot?
Dude, they should just have me come out there.
No, no, not an 18 handicap or anything.
You, what do you think it's a number?
What's a number you would post Sunday?
It's a number.
Just say a number.
Sunday at the PGA.
Oh, boy.
Genuinely, probably like, 135.
I think I love you dearly.
I think higher.
Yeah?
I think it's, I think there's some holes where it's just,
like seven and six.
I guess if you tried to,
if you tried to like shoot that,
you probably could if you were like really smart about
wedging it out, you know what I mean?
But if you tried to play normal golf,
I think it could get ugly.
I don't take offense to that.
Is the bunker game any better?
The bunker game is better.
Yeah,
I've been practicing bunker.
So the bunker game is better.
I worry about that rough though.
That rough.
If I'm in that all day,
it could be 180.
Who knows?
Yeah.
Yeah,
but you can play it safe and wedge it
and put it in the fair way.
And that's it.
the bunkers are deep and you have to get it super high quick.
So that's that's kind of a part where you can take three or four out of some bunkers out here.
Yeah, Corey Conner.
That happened to Corey Conner.
Did you see that, Nico?
Or you hit it in the face of the bunker?
Yeah.
I really do think they should let me come out to these venues right before the tournament starts.
Just so people know.
Just so people know what it's actually like out there.
What an average shitty golfer would shoot out there, but they haven't done it yet.
Have you guys seen the video of a guy playing TPC Sawgrass, the 17th hole that?
Yeah.
He can't finish the hole.
He can't hit it and he hits it around.
He ends up putting around the 17 hole.
And around him on the island because he saw he's on there and hit like 40 in the water.
I mean, I hit it on the green and one try.
So I don't know.
Maybe I'm not the right guy.
Yeah, you did.
Yeah, you did.
We can't have you in the same conversation with that guy.
That's right.
That's right.
All right, boys.
Fireball whiskey, we're big, we're very, very thankful for Fireball whiskey existing,
that iconic cinnamon flavor, number one, birdie shot in the United States of America.
We got a great fun around.
We got an incredible leaderboard, really.
We have an incredible leaderboard.
Brooks Kepka, the live thing is back.
Rory could easily make a charge.
This is kind of where he comes from, it feels like.
This is kind of where if Roy McRoy is going to win his first major in nine years,
it feels like it would be fitting for him to come from behind.
Everybody chirps about a backdoor top 10 and all that.
Rory is not out of it.
You've got some big names up there.
You've got Brooks Kepka leading the way.
So I'm excited for the final round.
I'm obviously a huge Brooks Kepka guy this week.
Nine to one, Barcelona Sportsbook, let's go.
So, yeah, big thanks to Fireball Whiskey.
Big thanks to Nico.
We appreciate you taking the time.
And we'll be back tomorrow, post round for an instant knee-jerk reaction.
Hopefully we're celebrating our guy, Brooks Kepka's fifth major championship.
I don't want to get lumped in with that.
Don't let me in with that.
Five majors.
Can we talk about five majors?
You would have five majors.
That's a lot of major.
They have three majors in the state of New York.
work.
One less than Phil Mickelson.
If he wins that, he would have be one less than
Bill Mickelson's entire.
He would have the same as Sevee by Astero's.
He'd be one behind Nick Foldo.
He's like, what is he, 33?
Let's go, Brooksie, baby.
Our guy.
Come on.
If he wins, do they start giving
world ranking points for Live, like, next week?
I don't, they should have done it a year ago.
I don't know what's, what's happening on that.
But I don't, I don't know.
I don't think that that's the, the narrative's not like these guys suck anymore.
just like, I don't, people don't really want to watch that product.
I don't think anyone after the masters, I don't think anyone thinks they suck.
That's true.
That's bad news for Livwin.
The narrative is now that the golfers are still pretty good, but we still don't want to watch it.
It's bad news for them.
You guys keep talking if you want, but I think I'm going to go.
All right.
I'm going to head out too.
We can wrap it up.
Totally up to you guys.
You talk as long as you want.
Nico, we appreciate the time.
Thanks.
Let's talk some South America golf at some point.
We'll get that figured out.
Yeah, no, I'm going to take off too.
All right, boy.
I'm excited for a lot around tomorrow.
If anyone's in New York, if anyone's in New York, let me know I want to have a beer with you guys.
I'll be there. We'll do it, Nico, next week.
There we go.
Sounds good.
Bye, see, gentlemen.
All right, boys.
Bye-bye.
