Fore Play - Death, Rory, Irondequoit & Roc City

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

What’s death all about? Rory sings a different, muted tune in this week’s presser. Jason Day is playing 0 practice round holes. Aaron Rai carries a unique family entourage. Frankie delivers a dazzling rendition of our national anthem. Chill country clubs like Irondequoit are the life goal.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butterknives because he's always nice to the cross the green.

Bro, 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99. And he grabs 100.

He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 a lease yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different? It's ain't a hobby. Poor players. I was right by John Rom State Run Media. Yeah.

Corporated. We're kind of the John Rom guys this week. It feels like Golf Channel really solidified that. Rich Lerner with a great report about how we're just walking with them. It's been a hell of a week for us. here in Rochester, our guy Alex Bush, is just Mr. Rochester, which we're kind of debating if we like that or not. He's got a different swagger to him this week.

I don't like it. I like it. I don't like it. Comfortable. Yeah, he just know, like, he's proud of this place, which I respect. I feel a little bit of that coming from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where people are like, that place is nothing. I will say the weather here in Rochester, throwing everybody for a curveball.

Why did Alex Bush just react like that? No, we're good. It's fucking freezing up here. Well, yeah. And we were going back and forth in the Texas morning about like, we're like, it's cold today. And Alex was just like, we're built different here. You guys just don't know. I'm just being facetious.

I'm just trolling. But I'm saying in a vacuum, that's true. But when it was 75 yesterday and then it's 40 today, we can complain. Yeah. No, I never said you can't. Look, the rest of the country, it's just nice right now. And here it's just not. It's fucking freezing.

Yeah. Clairs were miserable. Everything about today was miserable. It was a bad Wednesday at the PJ Championship. in terms of weather. But the course is really good. I don't know how the course is so green if it's been this cold and windy and shitty for the past however many months.

I mean, you couldn't have gotten too much sun up here. Really makes those Tulsa Live Golf Superintendent's not look so hot, you know? Of course still look like shit. Right. These guys figured it out. They did. It's green as hell.

Yeah, it looks nice. Up here in Rochester. Luscious. It is. It's a stunning course. We have to, you're right, Dan? Yeah, I'm good.

Sorry. Outside of the, John Rom, you know, media arm that we've become. We're also going to be at a Rondacoit Country Club promotional podcast to the show. They've just been so good to us. I mean, we're sitting in, what is this? They call this the boardroom. Yeah.

And they just treated us so well all week. We had our event yesterday. It's just been a really, really, it's been a pleasure. Is that rich mahogany I'm smelling? It is. It's a fantastic club. I was giving it a bunch of props today when we were at the range at the PJ Championship.

I was just thinking about, like we play a lot of long. Island Golf. We're always around different clubs. And there's obviously a ton of clubs in the world that have great hangs. But this seems to be one that I'm like, I really, I noticed how good of a crew they have here. It's like a young membership crew that really likes to hang. They all go to like the local, like the, what was the name of that place? Thirstys. Yeah, Thirstys. Thirstys. They're all going to Thirsties. One guy was like, you come by the house with the kids. My wife's there waiting for you. It's just a very family-oriented. friendly group of guys.

What's that banging? What's that hammering going on? Right as you're saying how great a run is. What's up? There's no way that the mics are picking that up. Stop that hammering. I didn't even hear it. The hammering.

There's a guy literally hammering outside. I don't want it to stop if he's doing his job. But it's just a great hang kind of place. They've got like a really good core base here. I could tell from yesterday at the at the Rock City Scramble. Do you remember the stop the hammering video? No. Who was it?

You remember that one of course. It's one of the best videos of all the time. It's a viral video from a couple years ago. It was a BC guy, right? Right. Oh, it's like a newscaster? It's like the classic Bill O'Reilly video, but on steroids. There's hammering around here. I need you to stop it. He's like, it's either coming.

At one point, he goes, you can see him actually going. He goes, he goes, it's coming from here, points backward. And then he does or around here. There's chaos in my ear right now. Someone in the control room is out of control. Somebody in that control room is out of control. It's really good. And then it's either coming from here, there, or somewhere around.

around here. You got to put this audio in there. Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering out there. Who's got a hammer? Where is it? I'll go down to the goddamn floor myself and stop it. Keep the goddamn commercial break going.

Empty out the goddamn control room and find out where this is going on. It's either there or there or out there somewhere. The peak is like before he shows how rattled he is. He's trying to act. Not rattling. He goes, stop the hammering. Stop the hammering. It's really good.

Somebody in that, he goes, you're saying nonsense in my ear right now. Sounds like Anchorman. That's probably why they made the movie. Pretty close. It is really. Stop the hammering. Really, really good. So we got some hammering going on.

This place is a 1916. Donald Ross course. I didn't really fully grasp, grasp. And Alex Bush is going to enjoy this part. But how big of a golf town Rochester is. And they're doing a lot, but I've been hypinged up on live from the golf channel, Walter Hagan. how he's from around here.

Donald Ross, I guess, spent two whole years up here, and that's why there's a bunch. There's like seven Donna Ross courses from Oak Hill to Ronniquite to a handful others. I think Rochester, CC. People were talking about. Yeah, they got Monroe, Monroe and CCR. So, yeah, I guess he came in, contracted, did two years in the area, just building a bunch of courses and.

CCR, like the band? Yeah, country code. Revival, Clearwater. Credence, Clearwater. Credence, Clearwater. Credence, Clearwater. Yeah. Yeah.

So it's a big time golf town. And this whole little, like you said, this vibe right here, this course right here at Arandicooy, what a phenomenal membership to staff couldn't have been cooler. The event we did yesterday, the Rock City Scramble, two-person scramble event. I think nine under won the whole thing. It was blowing like 25, 30 miles an hour. Couldn't have gone better. Fireball whiskey shout to them for sponsoring that whole event. People had an absolute blast out there.

Weather was perfect, windy, but nice, warm. And just a great time. They got that whole patio seat out there where everybody can hang by the pool. Yep. You just kind of love it. You know, the kind of the chill country club vibe is one that I think everyone should aspire to.

Like that's sort of the life that that's the life, right? It's like, because I know we've, there's like country club adjacent and that kind of stuff that's like kind of how we started out being like country clubs and you think of all the stereotypes and a lot of the connotations around it and you're walking on eggshells. kind of that this this type of club is what i think everybody aspires to where you get out you rip around

in a golf cart you hang at the bar with everybody you hit some balls it's pretty chill you go to thirstys with the crew you're listening to music it's not overly seriously serious but yet the course is built in 1960 by donald ross like so it's got a mix of everything i think this is kind of the this is like the goal in life i would guess that o'kill's probably not like this right it's definitely is a little bit more yeah it's a little bit more traditional yeah i've been there Little stuff here, perhaps. Yeah, a little bit. Probably still pretty sweet.

Oh, it's great. It's so fun to play out here. Rochester is much we're shitting on you, right? It's a character area. You guys, best thing you're known for is a thing called the garbage plate. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

And Alex Bush and his father. No, I agree. I think there is definitely like a certain niceness to have to a club in the sense of, you know, you know, it's not going to take super long to play. Usually the course is in good condition. And then usually the downside of that is the attitude. But if you remove the attitude part and you keep the pure golf and you keep the group of people who have a shared interest, but remove that duchiness,

I think, yeah, I think that's a really good formula. Yep, agreed. Laid my eyes on the hottest guy I ever seen in my life yesterday. I don't know if we were going to talk about that. We have to talk about it. Here? Yeah, and like,

you can't be as hot as this guy was. Is this the Jake Owen guy? No. His name was Gino Prestiakamo. You would remember him to. I'm going to give him a full on, full on fucking shout out. He's the best looking guy I've ever laid eyes on.

It was hard to even pay attention. I was swooning over him. Bush, you know this guy? No. I don't know who he is. Who was this? deal is bro he was walking around this place and you could just tell he just dominated everything like all the women around like they couldn't even put people were dropping papers like he walked by

and you couldn't even pay attention look at a stack of papers i got oh my god there's jrude i hugged him like goodbye and then i locked eyes with trent behind his shoulder and i'm like this is this guy's is the real deal you know what i mean like this guy's the real deal i wouldn't let him go are jacch diacano what was his last His name is Gino Prestigiacomo. And then he actually goes, he goes, when we have in supper tonight instead of dinner, when we haven't supper. Just everything about him. Maybe it's the Long Island thing.

Perfect tan, perfect hair. What's the whole lot? I don't know. I'm saying for me. Like what my type? Oh yeah. He played in the event yesterday. Trent, what do you think?

He's gorgeous. It's crazy. It's crazy. The members and all the pros were like, we call him like a Greek, he's a God. He's a Greek God. Never seen anything like it. Right. I'm getting married to a woman.

Like, that's just a fact. Yeah, it's happening soon. And like I still, I still, maybe, have to see it in him. Maybe, who knows? Yeah, Gino says, all right, wedding's off. You and me. I think about it.

I have a real long conversation. No, we were, it's, you know, we were, yeah, we gave him high fives to leave and then Frankie and I were, like, giggling. We were giggling. It was crazy. No, and I was like, Frankie, you want to take a picture of me? He's like, I can't even have that because then it's a comparison point. No way.

Right. Like if I'm standing next to him and then your fiancé's like, oh, how was the Rock City Scramble? Don't throw your phone into the fireplace. So, yeah, no, he's a really good looking guy, really nice guy. But yeah, no, we talked about him for like two hours. How old a guy was this guy?

How old a guy was this guy? I said he's about 30. Oh, wow, okay. Yeah, around there. Right in your range. Yeah. I did not know we were going to talk about him on the show. Did I?

But he's a good looking guy. We're here again. Just maybe reminded me of him. And then one of the members was like, yeah, he goes out there and shoots a 102. and we're like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what he does. He's just, he's a great looking guy.

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laser, the equal to all kinds of good stuff. That's Chevy.com to learn more. You guys were doing something different yesterday in the T-box, first T. Yeah, we brought some different vibes, which I think we're going to bring to a lot more of the classics, but we had some time to set up a nice little station on the first hole. And I just, you know, I got a mic in my hand. I played some music.

And we announced every single person that stepped up to the first T. It's a shotgun start. Obviously, and everyone steps up to the first T, but at some point you get up to the first T. And yeah, it just adds a little bit of flavor for the people playing. Something about getting your name announced at a golf event just makes it feel really cool. It does. And, you know, we're obviously, we're riffing with the guys. When they hit a bad shot, we're making fun of them.

When they hit a good shot, we're going crazy. Like, they just hit the greatest shot of their lives. And you could tell even like when a group would come up and they'd be like, all these guys are members, we'd be like, oh, they're not going to really get the joke. Like, we're like saying jokes. They don't really know if four players. They fucking love this. man like they were going

shout to our guy Larry Axelrod just like he was like an old school guy coming out of the cart we were like all right we're going to do this but like he might be like you guys are never doing this event again yeah and then we announced Larry Axelrod and he's dancing he's like stepping up to the tea Larry Axelrod he's like come on

like going to the fake crowd then he bombs one he does a spin and he sees the sword people love it man and he looks at us he's like I fucking love it this is what you guys were talking about last week Larry Axelrod 20 years ago was was Gino. Yeah, I mean, the old guys were just,

they're just younger guys and older bodies. That's right. How you think of, you're the exact same person that you were 20 years ago. So are they. I think a lot of those guys get a bad rap, like being,

belonging to a club, you're a little bit older than the younger crews and like you're getting up there to the T-box and everyone's like crusty and you're just like eggshells, walking eggshells around them, but that was not these guys. They were fucking salt of the earth.

Yeah, was a good crew. Yeah, so that was just fun. That was the second time you had held the mic that day. First time, you delivered a stirring rendition of the national anthem to the point where it was almost too good.

Like you've done it a few times before and you've been very nervous every single time. The 20 minutes leading up to it, you're talking to me being like, I'm going to leave. I don't want to do this. I can't believe I. I said it on one podcast and now I got to be the national anthem guy at these events. And the mistake that you were making early on at these events was you would be facing the crowd. There's like 120 guys ready to play golf, sitting in their carts. And now they're staring at you waiting to sing the national anthem.

So yesterday we had you turn around, you looked at the flag, you had your back to the participants. Huge. And you delivered one of the all-time national anthems. Not even just for you. Just overall. And you really let it loose. You kind of threw it out there more than you usually do. Yeah.

A really, really good job on that. I appreciate the kind of work. You got a ton of compliments yesterday. Yeah. No, everyone was pretty stunned. I, yeah, the first couple times that I did it, I felt like I was keeping it within my body, if that makes any sense. It's like I was almost speaking the national anthem because you're on the same level as everybody else. So like there's something about being on a stage that you feel like you can do a little bit more.

There's a reason everything is on a stage. Right. But standing like like same level, like sea level with everybody and just staring at their eyes. Most of the guys are taller than me. I'm like looking up at them, making eye contact, singing the national anthem. Like if I went to go hit a big note, I would always like kind of coward and kind of keep it with him because I'm like, I don't want to do that right now. I'm looking at this guy staring at me singing the national anthem. It's fucking awkward.

So I had the idea of just turning my back to the people and looking at the flag. And it just let me kind of forget that everyone was back there. And I didn't have, I was able to actually just like sing it. And there were a couple times where I just, I went for it. And it kind of worked. Like, you know what I mean? No voice cracks, no nothing. When you start at a certain octave, the national anthem, there's no going back.

So I started a little bit higher than I usually am. And I just couldn't. I knew the big moments were coming where you're like, there's no, not. You were locked in now. There's no not trying to hit this note right now. I would actually be thinking about that. Like, it's coming up. You went free.

Yeah. You really got up there. Right. And you just got to do it. Whatever. It was fun. It was really good. Yeah.

It was a really good rendition of the National Anthem. I was shaking. Like, my insides were shaking. Yeah. No matter how many podcasts we do, live shows, pop punk, I can do whatever. I feel very confident doing all those things. Something about singing just with no music or anything. anything is by far the most nerve-racking you have ever done in my life.

Singing is far more vulnerable than speaking in public. Dude, crazy. Sam Smith's parents used to make him sing for their family friends at events, and it was like a traumatic experience for him as a child. It has to be. Because it's, it has to be. I felt like my spleen bounce. Like everything on my insides were bouncing.

I was super nervous. But now you know you can do it and you can do it really well. You were doing it before, but now you're going to have to do it every time. Yeah. Now it's really every time. You're going to have to do it really well. You just have like no. like care about what comes out and it usually comes out better than you think it worked whatever

it was it worked i was very impressed thank everybody was thank you um-hmm uh yeah no it was a it was a phenomenal event this is a great place this would be a very fun spot to come up and play in like a member guest and come up a day or too early stay a day or too late playing a few different courses around town so amazing golf town they're kind of talking about they were doing on the live from last night they were talking about golf towns like cities and like big cities in the u.s that are known as golf towns golf cities i mentioned like san francisco uh they mentioned here because that's kind of how it started this is like a place that has a lot of DNA around golf um is columbus is columbus is like a big golf town i guess

jack yeah they've got near field double eagle sciota like a ton of great golf hamptons yeah that's yeah but they were like they were trying they were talking about like cities like a city that is like a golf city. That was, that just has like the DNA of God. I mean, I guess like San Francisco, they used to have big games back in the day of like two or three of the all time greats like grew up playing in like these games and they were talking about that a lot. It's great like public golf scene in San Francisco.

Yeah, just like a, yeah, it's like kind of a golf. And they were just essentially their whole point was there's not that many golf like cities in the U.S. that are known as like golf cities, right? And it almost kind of reminded me of like football like. like states in America like Texas Texas is like football that's like a football state and it's not that really good players don't come

from all kinds of different states they do but like being known as like a golf city I feel like is pretty damn rare and they're essentially making the point that like Rochester is kind of a golf city with a lot of golf DNA and Walter Hagen and like a lot of the courses around here Oak Hills had

this is its seventh major championship it had a Ryder Cup like Donald Ross has his fingerprints all over this place that it's just very golf city yes so it was an interesting conversation for me to think about but um moving on roy mackerel um i want to talk about his presser yesterday was it tuesday presser tuesday presser tuesday morning a little emo little so rores rory's had an interesting you know 12 months where it was it was he said the dead in the water thing at the players championship a little over a year ago uh he he came out he had a pretty damn good year he almost won the 150th open championship at the old course

ended up barely not getting it done had a phenomenal finish to the year wins the tour championship wins the FedEx Cup as like the guy when he's carrying the torch of the whole deal one again in the fall I believe um and then you know took kind of the winter off per usual beat patrick read to start the year remember came out and then in Dubai came out start of the year with a win was looking really good and then just kind of there was the Bay Hill where at Bay Hill he almost won was playing really well in that same week he came out and everybody's talking about how he did like a 10-hour session on Tuesday

of like player council and talking everybody about the restructuring the tour he kind of spearheaded restructuring the entire tour and then just out of nowhere missed the cut by a million of the players championship missed the cut at the Masters tournament skip the RBC Heritage without really giving a reason which was his second missed designated event. It cost him $3 million because he didn't play Hawaii as well. You're only allowed to miss one.

Kane played Quail Hollow. Didn't play particularly well. Played like fine. Didn't really give a reason or anything. Talk about the RBC Heritage. And then this is the first time we've seen him since. And his press conference was a completely different Roy McElroy. Now, I'll say on this show, this has been one of the more pro-Roy-Mackroy shows,

probably in the history of entertainment. We love Rory on this show. Yeah. We could not have had more positive feedback after we spent the first time we ever spent with him, which was like a year and a half ago at Taylor Made Media Day. He walked a whole whole with us, spent an hour with us. He was fucking awesome. He was so down to earth. We saw him again at Taylor May Media in October. Probably the second time we ever really spent second or third time we ever spent time with him. He was phenomenal. We love Rory. He's as candid as ever seen him. I have never really seen him like he was yesterday in the press conference at Oak Hill. he gave short one-word answers. He answered, I think it was Alan Shipnick's question about crystal ball with like,

I don't have a crystal ball. And then he was like, well, if you could speculate. And he's like, no. And then that was it. And he did that a handful of times. He almost had, I was saying earlier, a little bit more of a Justin Thomas type tone. There was an edge. JT has a little edge in the pressers.

I feel like he kind of looks at half the questioners, including Dan Rapport a lot. Like this person's a fucking idiot. Like, you're an idiot for asking that before he even answers it. It almost had a little bit of that tone. which the whole thing kind of tells me that there's got to be more of the story. There's got to be something going on with Rory that leads me to want to give them the benefit of the doubt. I think we came down a little bit hard on them probably, which we think was justified at the RBC Heritage, skipping that after basically talking about how important it was for the tour to get all the best players together

and how much of an entertainment product it is and how key that is for the entertainment product going forward. Clearly something's going on with them for the last month or a couple months. And yeah, that presser was unlike a lot. I've ever heard him probably my whole life. Yeah, I think despondent is the word that came to mind for me. You know, he's usually such a jovial guy. He gives you these thoughtful answers. He makes everybody laugh. He kind of had, I'm just here so I don't get fined energy yesterday. It was like he didn't want to be up there. I think there's just in general a bit of like live fatigue going on. Yeah. Alan Shipnuck, who's writing a book about live, asked a bunch of players, you know,

if you could, that same question basically, basically, if you could look into your crystal ball. And they were all basically like, I don't know, I'm tired of talking about it. I think Rory has really, he's been almost the face of the whole feud. And I think the public is over it. I think the players are over it. And I think he's finally over it. And so they asked him yesterday, are you going to make a conscious decision to stop talking about Liv? And he just said, yeah.

Because I think at this point, it's not, you know, in the beginning he was getting praise a lot. There was a lot of praise because he was emerging as the good guy in this and talking about legacy and talking about history. you know now I think after the masters this is now the second major where everyone's back it's sort of normalized yep I don't think there's as much anger kind of on both sides there probably still is on the live side because but that's just internet trolls I don't know if those are even real people

bots bots could be bots could be people in other countries live off rules I just think everyone's kind of over it and I think he knows that if he goes up there and gives an answer about live you know whereas before the response was going to be this guy's amazing this guy is the leader that we need now everyone I think we just roll their eyes And so I think he's kind of just realizing that like maybe I'll just get back to being a professional golfer. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. Also, maybe he's feeling a little betrayed by the media after the RBC Heritage stuff where he does, he did for a year give the best answers and had the right things to say and was jovial.

And then you do, you miss one event, a big event, the second one. And, you know, John Rahm is there. So people are heap and praise on John. And then Roy becomes the bad guy for a week. You just like, you can do all of the. right things and still people are going to be like well you fuck this thing up so we're going to be hard on you again the standards for him are higher than they probably are for anybody else because they are because he's been so kind of i don't want to say goody two shoes but because he's been

so so outwardly positive that when he does anything where he you know he talks so much that sometimes you contradict yourself and people like to like to highlight that yeah and so i think you're right i think he's worked so hard and he he likes to talk about how he's not on social media but I don't believe him because he always makes comments. He knows exactly what's going on. I think he's tried so hard to be such a good guy and realizes that, yes, there are a ton of people and the vast majority of people who think that he is this great guy and this great leader. But there are also a lot of people who, like you said, nitpick things. And I think he's come to a realization that as much as I can try and as good as I can be on this microphone, I am one comment, one slip of the mouth, one decision away from being, you know, everyone's enemy.

And he's probably just done with it. Well, you know, look, there's what, what strikes me about it is that we're like less than a year removed from Rory winning the Canadian Open and literally leading his post win presser or interview on the green with like, yeah, I just got my 20 whatever win, one more than somebody else. Like he doesn't shy away from that stuff. He was welcoming it, leading it. He was the guy. So I find it very difficult to believe he just woke up one day and was like, I'm tired of this. Like I, so I think it's more than that. I definitely think it could be the media thing.

I think that guys pay way more attention to the media than they lead on. I think it affects them more than we think it affects them in a very understandable way. Like those people are talking about you as a person. That's like as a person when you're reading articles, social media, when you're looking at like the way the tides are shifting on you, that affects you big time. So it could be as simple in our mind, but as complicated and big and roar his mind as like he felt betrayed,

whether that's from, you know, the just the RBC thing whether it was a combination of like uh and and who knows he probably knows it better than I do like maybe it's a combination of people being hard on him after missing the cut of the players hard on them at not having what it takes to like step up to the plate at the masters hard on him that he didn't get it done at the open hard on him that he missed the rbc and all that might have added up to like he he kind of went over the edge one day of like fuck them like I'm just not doing it anymore um so it could be that but I I find it a little difficult to think that like that same guy that had that edge that like that was an edge those were

edgy moments where he was like willing to be the guy and he was literally pulling people aside to recruit them to stay to pitch to them why we're going to do the designated events without cuts going forward like why it's a good thing for the tour why he's going to chirp Greg Norman like and then all of a sudden be like are you done talking about live yep and one word answer like that to me that's a drastic I think something else is probably going on and I don't want to speculate on what it might be but when I hear you say that, I think you're right. It's hard to imagine that just,

just look at the one action of skipping the RBC heritage. He knew what that was going to bring. He knew he wasn't going to get $3 million. He knew everyone was going to call him a hypocrite because he basically helped write the rules. And then broke them. And then broke them. So I don't think that just missing the cut at the Masters

would be enough for him to do that. You know, there's, yeah, I asked him, they said, at Quill Hollow, I was like, was anything, he's like, you know, it's, I don't, you know, it's my business, basically. Yeah. And so there might, there could well be something going on. Again, I'm not going to speculate what it is. When someone tells you that it's their business, that's a very polite way of saying, shut the fuck up. Don't ask me. Right. So you let it go. And, you know, maybe in six months, we'll find out what happened. The guys, you know, he's kept secrets before. No one knew his, no one knew his wife was pregnant until like a week before she had the baby. So he has a private life and something could well be going on or it could not be. But I think it's a time for grace and it's a time to give the guy. It's hard being in the public, the public eye all the time every week. A time for grace. Yeah.

Yeah, he's definitely a real person, right? Like, we just look at him as Rory because he's a megastar. And yeah, who knows? Like, you just wake up one day and you're just like, fuck, this is just a lot. All this is a lot. And you're a little short in some interviews. And it's like, what's wrong with this guy? It might just be like, it's a lot, man.

He's got a lot on his shoulders for sure. And it could be, yeah. Look, I know when we spent that day with Rory at Taylor Me Media for the first time, year and a half ago, I remember that, like, our biggest takeaway. And I remember what I said specifically was like, That man is the most impressive, just person I've spent personal time with. Yeah. Impressive.

He's just impressive. He's, he's clean, cool, jovial, unbelievably talented, unbelievably rich. He's down to earth. He gets it. He's not detached. He's not above all of it. He gets it. He gets the jokes.

He gets the pop culture. Yet he's still above it on a social scale because he's Rory fucking Magroy. And he's won four majors and he's the guy. And that guy's just the most impressive guy. That hasn't changed for me at all. No. That guy's unbelievably impressive. This will probably be just like you have a slump in the golf.

This will be like, oh yeah, a little bit of a slump that Rory went through with like media or whatever. That to me doesn't affect anything. But if we're going to do a podcast twice a week and talk for golf about golf for three hours, you got to talk about that. Something has clearly changed with him and like Dan said, like the guy deserves the privacy.

He deserves all of it. He also, I think, deserves some of the criticism that he got around skipping the RBC. And he knew he was going to get that. I think he would probably agree with him. Right. Right.

He would probably agree with it himself. But it is just a very interesting, like, stark difference between just his tone, impressors and as the guy from Bay Hill, which is in fucking March to now, which is May, which has been a couple months. That's it. Which is nothing. I would like to know how some of these guys, if they are actually off social media, but they do seem super plugged in, do they get like packets from their people? Like here's kind of what's going on. Here's a quick PowerPoint. Like a White House briefing.

Yeah, kind of. Just like how do they, because some of them I do believe and some of them I don't believe. But the guys that I do believe but still seem super plugged in. Like how are they getting this information? Yeah, I think they have an agent or a manager and they might say like, you know, what are people saying? And then I guess it's kind of on him to filter that information. I mean, if you look at a lot of these guys social media profiles, it's pretty clearly not them on the ones and twos. Yes.

So someone's in charge of that and they're seeing everything. but I do think a lot of these guys who say that they're not on social media are definitely on social media. I think they're on it with a burner that allows them to follow stuff and I think that we all know now growing up with it and being part of our job

how easy it is to just stay in tune with things. Once a day. It's really not hard. You're in an Uber or you're waiting for a friend for five minutes and you sit there. You're in the lobby of the hotel waiting for 45 seconds.

You just ought to have it. Pull up Twitter and the accounts that you follow. It might be us. Golf.com, Golf Digest, Amen Lynch, Brandel, and in that 45 seconds, you can see the narrative. And if you do that 10 times a day, which is really easy, you've spent less than 10 minutes on it total and you know what's going on. True.

It's really not that fucking hard. It's harder to not. Right. Right. And if you're on Instagram, and even if you're not the one posting, great job. You know, like whatever, you're still seeing it. If you're on the Instagram, you're seeing what's on there. It's not hard to just see.

And very quickly you understand. And Goff Digest, I think, does the quote cards. big and like we do some of that now too of like quotes that people say like I'm sure RBC week there was a picture of Roy McRoy probably looking sad and like had a quote that was like the guy that wrote

wrote the rules is now the one breaking them or something along that effect and you just can't not see it it's impossible that's true they always do find the sad photo don't they yeah they do if they need it hat when your life is public and your media you're out of there all the time

there's a picture of you whether you feeling that emotion at the time or not there's a picture of you looking sad mad happy interested inquisitive they're all out there it's so funny it's like tiger shoot 68 and it's like a picture of him like yeah like this and then tiger shoot 74 and it's like or no it's it's tiger woods he has another surgery and it's literally him like with his hair line it's always like or some people be used old some outlets are super rude and they'll have the one of him fought when he fell to his knees it's oh with that's yeah that's inappropriate that's that's too low that's a little that's a little bit you're back to our

It should be. That's from Liberty National. Yeah. If you went back to our blogs, we've used that picture probably 30 times in the cover photo. We've talked about this before, but there are things that we have done, said, or represented in a blog that we didn't realize we would get this big. Yeah. That's just the way that it is, honestly. Like, and nothing crazy, crazy.

Harder to talk shit about people now when you see them all the time. Much harder. And you realize, and what we've learned is that all these guys are just people. But when you're just so far out and you're just throwing stones and trying to make people. laugh. You'll kind of say and post whatever, but, you know, I just didn't think that I'm wearing PJ Championship merch right now. Barstool co-branded. I just didn't see that coming. Never. So some of the things that, you know, we might have said in the past, it is what it is. He used to write PS, fuck Billy Horschel at the end of all my golf blogs. He gives me in a video with him. Yeah, he's a

perfect example. I love Bill Herschel. He's great. So I'm today. Oh, yeah, we did. Talked for a long time. He had a couple glasses of scotch with him after we played him with the players. Like, he couldn't be better. I love that guy. It is. That's always an interesting, It's been a fun ride to like, like, people are always like, you're softer now. You guys just suck these guys' dicks now you meet them now. But like, I don't know. I think it's more fun to be like you were one side of it and now you're the other. I don't know.

People might not find that as interesting, but that's just the way that it is. I just, that was literally true if we suck their dicks every time it's. It is true. You know, that'd be that such a crazy. That's like what we had to do to get access. It's, I don't know how to respond to that. But it's just been an interesting journey. Frankie would love that

I can repeat it that's all right no that's all right Frankie hasn't been sleeping Greg you still thinking about Gino I was just thinking no I got I got an update about my flight

and I was looking at it what happened well we're just saying if if you know in order to get on these guys good side if all it took was to suck their dicks I feel like you would be in

because people say that that's what we do you know metaphor it's just a metaphor we can move on we can move on it's just a metaphor Yeah, I'm not going to answer that. Dude, I can't get a text message to go through it here.

What's with Rochester? We're in the sticks, man. We're in the sticks. You're going to have a tower out here? I'm not even close to the sticks. You're in the sticks, dude. You're not in the sticks. There's sticks everywhere.

Those are called trees. Yeah, and they're just not. Compared to the big old concrete jungle, this is the sticks. I'll take you to the sticks. This ain't the sticks. I don't want to go to the sticks with you. I don't want to go anywhere with you. I know you don't.

There is a bush. I haven't been sleeping well. I don't know what's been going on. Two nights in a row. I don't know if it was just the hotel. I don't know what happened. I couldn't sleep. That's a bad feeling.

Oh, my gosh. Like you fall asleep and then you wake up and you're like, man, I definitely am not sleeping more right now. Let me look at the phone and see what time it is. And like you're looking at the time and I'm thinking like it's got to be at least like 5 a.m. And it was like 1.28 a.m. I'm like, no way.

Go back to sleep. Do it again. I'm like, all right, it's got to be like 6 a.m. I definitely had to have gotten good sleep. 2.30 or 40 minutes was going by each time. You know what help with that? Marijuana. Marijuana.

I have, I will say, I don't usually have that issue. There's, I will say, I have a thing going on in my life for the last, like, year where I can't sleep past 7 a.m. Yeah. Doesn't matter when I go to that. Go to bed at 3 in the morning drunk 3. Go to wake up at 7. It's, it's borderline ruining my life. Two weeks ago, I slept until like 1130 on a Saturday.

I was amazing. When I wake up at 7.20 or whatever, I could run. I could sprint. I'm just wide awake. It's very strange. And I hate it. I hate every. second of it. So I had

two nights ago, I went to bed at like 9.50. Yeah. And no, no, sorry, I went to bed at about 10.50 and I woke up at like 9 a.m. Dude. It was insane. I would. And it was one of those

it's a slumber. Frankie, I literally had the opposite of you. I woke up thinking, I was like, it's got to be three or four in the morning. And I looked and it was like 8.55. I was like, what? I would, I, the things I would do to be able to do that right now. I hadn't done that in the time. I'm tired ever.

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I picked Adam Scott Yep Yep that's right Did we hit last week We did We did We're on a winning street So we've hit like four times this year

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gambling problem. Call 1-800 gambler. And again, use that code 4 to unlock your $1,000 bonus on the Barstool Sportsbook. The other thing I want to talk about is Jason Day saying, so Jason Day just won. Hurrah, we're all going crazy. Plus 700 I had him at. Pat of my bankroll, nicely going to the PGA Championship, which I'm very excited for. And the final two rounds, the NHL playoffs.

I'm very excited for it. He got here, gave a presser today. He said he's not going to play a single hole at Oak Hill until Thursday tournament. It feels crazy. Feels like a crazy thing to do. That's insane. He didn't play yesterday or today? No.

He's not playing a single hole. He said he wants to stay fresh mentally. I love it. We were talking about this before. No. I love it. That's crazy. I like it as an experiment.

Let's see how he does. He said he's done it before. He said he's done it before, which is equally crazy. I don't know. Whenever I play a tournament that I don't play well, that's my first thing. It's like, oh, I didn't play a practice round. So, you know, what can you really expect? Yeah.

I don't know how you play a major championship. You don't know how the ball's coming out of the rough. you don't know how far a hole is playing downhill. It's just like I feel like you're here. What else are you going to be doing for the next 36? Also, don't even take it that seriously. Go out there and just hit balls. Yeah, if you don't want to hit in the rough,

like just hit a couple chips. Like, do something. I can't believe it. We saw I'm chipping on the practice range today. It's not playing, but he's not not out there. It's not like he's just sitting in his hotel and I'm staring. He's got to play the course.

I don't think so. But I'm saying, I'm saying, take Wednesday off. I would, today I would have, if I were a player, I would not have played today. It's so cold out there. But I, I'm excited to watch it just to see how he played. That's going to be very interesting. He was like, yeah, the yardage book's really good. So I guess that's all you mean.

That's not enough for me. You play it on 2K. He's ready to go. So I took him top 10 plus 300 before I knew this nonsense. He's not even playing with all the tournament. Yeah, that press conference would move the line, I think. Probably has. I haven't placed the bet yet because I'm going to do it when we fly to Chicago tonight.

When I fly to St. Lewis tonight layover in Chicago and placed that wager. So hopefully that changes the odds. Hopefully those odds makers are listening to that preposterous Jason Day interview. But like you said, I mean, you gotta just see how bouncy are the greens. How like

I... But okay, how about this? If he plays well... I was going to say, no practice rounds. Imagine he wins a tournament and just Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday is just not a thing anymore. Or he just ruins, now there's nobody out there playing practice rounds. Leading up to the tournament, it's just like, everybody

used to play practice rounds, then Jason Day won in Rochester, and now nobody's out there anymore. He might not be playing him because they're so slow. Yeah, we've heard some rumblings that the practice rounds are slow. Like they're, like three and a half hours for nine holes. Rumblings that if people think that the actual golf is too slow,

that they wouldn't believe the practice rounds. It's like three and a half hours for nine holes. That's what they're dropping balls everywhere. And if they don't like a drive, they're being a goal. Yeah, it's, it's not fast. Imagine Jason Day's playing zero minutes of practice rounds. Right. Zero minutes. These guys are taking three and a hours to play nine old maybe he doesn't want to wait either he's just like I can't go out there

you know what I'm just so rooting for him to just win now I know oh yeah that's gonna be my rooting interest for sure everybody would just fly and wind then right that'll change the the landscape of golf for the better he also said in his press conference today that when Tiger was in the depths of his chipping yips in like you remember 2015 or 2016 he invited jason day over to his house because jason day was like chipping unbelievably well and jason day basically like taught him how to chip again. Wow. And he said that he learned more

from the experience from Tiger, and Tiger actually learned from him. And Tiger was working with Chris Como at the time. And then Jason Day met Chris Como was like, that guy's fucking really smart.

And now they're working together. So a cool little tidbit from the guys conference. That is a cool little tidbit. I have a friend Aaron Vigno, Viggy, who call him, who he always tells the story that in 2015,

I think it was where he went to the waste management. Oh, that was ugly. And that was when Tiger and he's like, one time we ever got to see Tiger Woods in person and he's blading chips over the cream.

He's like fatting him and bleeding. Like the only time I ever got to see it. It's like hard to believe he couldn't do it. He could not hit a chip. Hard to believe that he went through that. He could not hit a chip square for like five months. It's insane.

He couldn't even make contact. He was blading him over the green. He was chili dipping them too. Oh, I remember. He'd be like at the bottom of a slope and hit one and it would go up two feet. Dude, he shot like 85 at the Phoenix. He's not even that hard. Not even that hard of the golf course.

What was the clip? He was given a clinic or they were opening a tiger golf course and it was a shot over water. I think it was Bluejack. I think it was in Houston when we did it with, he saw it. He hit three in a row. Three wedges in a row into the water. Water.

And everyone was just like, it was like a ribbon cutting. And he was like, yeah, yeah, now the best player of all time. It was like an 85-yard shot and just chilled up three into the water.

Those are dark times, there were some really dark times. Like even now it's hard watching him like walk, but he can hit a 50-yard pitch. Yeah. The fact that was a lot of guys don't get out of that. Yeah. It's just kind of over.

It really shows you the ups and downs of life. Like that had to be the most. humiliating thing in the world and then he comes back and four years later wins the master's tournament. Chips very well. Chipped very well. Dude, I remember thinking because

when he blocked that eight iron as his approach shot on the 72nd hole with that. He's going to do it again. I'm like, well, now he's got a chip that literally not that long ago. He couldn't get this anywhere near the green. And if he doesn't get this on the green, he's just going to lose the master.

Yeah, that would have been it. He pitched it right into that hill perfectly. It was like, yeah, I can handle that. I was like, I mean, you couldn't for a while. You couldn't. What a life. We talk about it all the time. What a life.

What a life. Up and down. Way up there and way down there all the time. I want to talk about a guy who's got a life right now that caught my eye today on the driving range of the practice facility. Aaron Rye. Yeah. I got to talk about this guy. Yeah.

Two gloves. I got to talk about what I saw on the range today. And I'm not saying it's a good thing. It's a bad thing. It's one of the more unique things I've ever seen in my entire life. Shows up carrying his own bag. He's the most humble guy on tour. Yeah.

He's got the iron covers. he's got the whole story he never was able to forward golf clubs when he finally got he wanted to take care of him he walks up to this range holding his own bag I believe it's his mother that's with him have you ever seen his crew

that he walks through I think it's his coaches are the me and my golf guys from Taylor you know the Taylor made guys the YouTube guys there's their like his coaches are like YouTubers so his coaches are YouTubers I think he had his mother out there holding a bucket of balls and I think it's either his

significant other or his sister or his wife I don't know who else but they're all just standing around him Now this is the PJ championship is a major, right? So at some point this guy is like a really good professional golfer, and that's, and that usually comes with a little bit of a swagger or like, you see these guys. Yeah, you see these guys walk up.

Like we watched Tommy Flewitt. He's holding the bucket of balls. He had his bags already on the driving range waiting for him. He's dapping people up. Aaron Rye walked up with his family from what I can see. And they stood over every single one of his chips. And they threw the ball down into the rough and they all analyzed how deep it would go. The mom, everyone is looking.

Okay, no, chip it. Chip the ball. and he would chip the ball. And then they'd watch it. And then they'd kind of like go and say and point here, like chip right here. And then like the mom would throw the ball down. And then he'd like really get into the chipping. Was he three years old?

It was crazy. And I know it's like humble. It's cute. And I just couldn't keep my eyes off it. Yeah. I've never seen any thing like it in professional sports. What is Aaron Rye to miss the cut on the martial sports? Dude, maybe to win.

Like who, maybe that's just his juice. Those are the two bats I'm going to put in. One for him to miss the cut. the other one. Trent was watching it with me. It was stunning. Come on. It's a complete opposite of what we've ever said with like Patrick Reed and his wife like walking

across the green like with their high heels on. It's a complete opposite of it. Bunch and holes in the green. It's, it's kind of similar in like how how drastically different it is from every single other person that's out there. Yeah. You watch like Patrick Cantlay or you watch someone else was Jason Day and there's like six grown, very serious grown men behind.

Yeah. Yeah. And then there was one of the guy out there with him. Who was gay event. Yeah, who was getting balls from him and he was wearing a leather jacket. He was wearing a leather jacket, which is cool. With a slick back ponytail hair and he was just standing there like this, watching every single chip he did.

It was one of the more bizarre things I've ever seen in my... His mom was tossing balls for him. I looked at him, this is the PGA championship. That's, listen, it's fucking adorable. It's awesome. It's great. He's humble as fuck. Yeah.

But I just like can't imagine. I just was wondering if, like, if one of his competitors just, like, saw his crew walking around. I was just like, yeah, like, that's just like iron rise. Just like what he does. That's another one. I guess we'll see how he performs. For sure. I'm starring his name on the score out.

Either you're not playing practice rounds. Maybe you're bringing your mom around. Maybe it's just like, who knows? It takes all times because you saw it too. Alex. Oh, yeah. Couldn't keep your eyes off it. You really couldn't.

It takes all kinds. So we'll see. Yeah. I had to. I had to. All types of warmups. Yeah, it was a warm up. And I'm guessing that he stops at at Wednesday.

You know? Yeah, you think it'll just be him in the cat. If they're out there on Friday, Saturday. It's a problem. Right? Could be. You think they're out there pre-round? Holding his clubs.

Did he not have a caddy? I didn't see. I don't know. It didn't. Nobody appeared to be his cat. What's her? They're all his catty. He's a British guy who got his card through finals.

Nice guy. He comes from like super working class family. Super nice guy. Yeah. Just a just a very like humble, nice boy. How old are the guys? My age, my age, my 28, 29, 27. Interesting.

I learned more about this cat. Yeah, two gloves. Two gloves and iron covers. So, aesthetics are not really... He's not a swagger guy. He's not really into the swagger. Nor should, does he have to be? It was just such a wild, drastic difference from quite literally everything I've ever seen in professional sports.

To the point where it's like, maybe that's just this thing and that's going to like catch on. You know? Keep it in the family. Keep it in the family. Make it a family event. He's like Tony Fino. Yeah, but even Tony He doesn't do that

Coach and a caddy And yeah, he's very buttoned up When they were Standing on the green saying Here's your landing spot That's where I was like Something something's going on over there She like doesn't play golf

She's just like oh, chipping over there I think this is a good spot I really He'd be a great guy out on the show You'd be a fantastic guy out on the show All right, we'll make it happen We'll make it happen

He's just gonna kill He's gonna kill that like Like that funny conversation with just the most kindness of all times. Yeah, he's going to love having them out there. And you're going to be like, of course you do. Yeah, why wouldn't you? Of course, I would love all of my family out there with,

I want them sitting right next to me right now. Is Lee Westwood's like wife still caddy for him? Yeah, I think so. Live golf tour. Sometimes it's his wife, sometimes he's a son in there. He kind of moves it around. Jack, 86 Masters had his son out there. Yeah.

Caddian for him. I would do it. Phil. Joey La Cama's son got a victory this week, right? or last week. Did Hagee win? No. He was caddied on the...

A stricter on the Champions Tour. Yeah. I thought he's got to be for Nellie Korda last week. No, no. Joe Likov Jr. Oh, Jr. was on Tricker's bag. Got to win. Oh, sick.

Good for him. I know he's been caddying for Brandon Hagee on the Corn Fairy Tour. He was doing all right. I don't think he's like in position to get his card yet. Joey Jr. Texted me, it was like, your Corn Fairy event that's coming up, all the guys are jacked up can't wait to be there. So I guess he's going to be there for that.

Yeah, he's cutting for Brandon that week. he'll be a great guy to highlight during our broadcast Joey Jr. Fuck yeah. Joey Jr. had, so we catted at Wingfoot for a couple years.

I believe obviously his father helped him get that gig. And then, yeah, Eggie on the Corn Ferry tour and then jumped over. He obviously did Charlie Woods

for two or three years in a row with the PNC. Yep. And then now we got, that was a major, right? The PGA senior major or whatever, right?

I don't think it was, I don't know. I'm going to look it up. I think that was a senior fellow's major. I'm gonna look it up I couldn't look shit up I got no service I probably won't get service to

Joey La Covee won his first tournament as a caddy alongside Steve Chicker at the Regions tradition tournament on the PGA Tour champions That does sound like a major I think that's one of their majors Regions tradition Are they like the LPGA

They do five majors I think that's one of them All right Official major championship of the PGA Tour champions Come on. Wow Joey Jr. All right Alabama

Greystone Golf and Country Club So Shickers Caddy is just The Likava family. The Likava family. Right. Whichever one you can get. Yeah, exactly. What's that paycheck looks like?

I don't know, but he's also, he's following in daddy's footsteps when he wears his favorite team's hat. Yeah. Joey always wears a Ranger hat or a Giants hat, and Joey Jr. was wearing a nice big New York Yankees hat for the championship. Just a matter of time until he's on a big PGA tour bag, if it feels like. I think so. Could be Brandon Hage.

I'm not saying Brandon Hagee's not the guy, but I feel like you got a lot of time like that. You won a major championship, albeit with the, you know, the team. PJ Tour champions, but you got the pedigree. He's a cool kid. He's going to be asking. Is Stuart Sink's son? No. Anybody's back? He went to go work for Delta, I believe. For what?

For Delta. Yeah, he had like a job. Stewart, I think they were doing it for a couple years and I think he like got over it. They got a win together, didn't they? They did get a win together. They won in Napa, I believe. Working for Delta airline? So I could fly it to me?

No, I don't think. I think in the head office. There was a guy that we met yesterday during the Rock City Scramble that I had to announce and he was in a former assistant pro here. I'm going to forget his name. I can't remember. I can picture him, but yeah. Oh, it was, remember I mispronounce his last name? Gossage.

I said Gossage. I think his name is Goseg. Okay. And he was a pro, and then he just gave up golf. And now he, like, does, like, heart surgery or something. He is the guy who when doctors, when surgeons do heart surgery, he stops the heart and keeps it, keeps the person alive. Doctor goes in there, surgeon goes in there, fixes it up.

And then the doctor's like, can't. kick that sucker back on. He goes from folding shirts in the pro shop to doing that. Changing grips, changing hearts. Pipes the ball. It's a big, and then stepped up to the first. I said all this on the mic.

Yeah. And he just piped a drive with a nice fucking draw into the wind. There were a couple good players. He turned around and he's like, yeah, he's like as if I couldn't just keep still do that. Like, you know what I mean? Sick. Golf's still good to me.

Stop. So the heart stops, but that you have to, they have to put something in you probably. It keeps your, pumping your fake heart, basically. I think so. How crazy is that?

How crazy is heart transplants? Take your heart out. At one point, your heart is beating in somebody's hand and they put it into a tray. Get rid of it. Yeah, because that one stinks and they put a new one in there. And they just put a new one in. And if someone that had passed away like minutes before. It's always from a cadaver.

Seconds before. Really? I think they pass away next to you, like there. Right? I don't know. How do they time that? Maybe that time, but that person had to have done. just died. Yeah. Well, pretty recent.

Yeah, what if they died like a car accident? I think they... I think that's fine. They take that heart right out of it and bring it. Yeah, that's what you have on your... Like when you're... Organ donor. They put it in like a Yetty cooler and bring it right over. I've seen Graz Anatomy. Right, right. Fly it right in. Right. They're waiting on the roof. And they keep going. Didn't...

Did Bill Clinton have like a heart transplant? No, he had like a quadruble bypass. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Heart transplant, when they first did that, had to have been the greatest achievement in human history. when they literally took the heart out of somebody and brought it into another person

and then it just worked. I think I saw... Dude, they're like... I would love to watch a documentary on that. They're like, it worked. How many times did it not? How many times it did not? A bunch.

I think I'm making this up, but I might not be. I feel like I saw a 60 minutes type of report on a heart transplant where the heart that was given the person started to take on the personality traits. I don't want to deal with that. Okay.

Of the person... No way. Who they were given, who's the heart. You sound like your phone lines. There's a different accent starts coming out. And I want to be clear that there's a real chance I'm making that up. Wait, that can't be. The heart isn't.

Who knows, man. Really? Maybe it's. Maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's maybe it's placebo. Yeah. And maybe I made it up. Definitely possibility. Can't be clear.

Upcoming race, NASCAR, All-Star Race. It's North Wilkesboro Speedway, May 21st at 8th. 8 p.m. Eastern live on FS1. Frank Borrelli 3rd has been to a handful of NASCAR races. Talladega. I've been to Daytona. Yeah, Bristol. I mean, the list goes on and on. I love NASCAR events. I love watching them on TV. You sit back. You know, if you don't know what's going on, it's obviously a lot. But once you start to really see how impressive it is, all the analytics that go into all these cars, every single ounce of fuel, these guys are telling these guys, from the top deck like these bird's eye view

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Don't do this. Stop. And then he punched him in the fit. Didn't he punched somebody? Yeah, I think he punched a couple people. One of the greatest guests you ever had on the show. Michael Walter. He was so good.

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We did? Yeah. Yeah, we did. Talked a pretty good amount about it. Good amount. Oh, yeah, the three of us did. We did. Yeah.

I was just like, I sometimes think about that moment right before, like, if you're conscious right before you die. Yeah. You're healthy. Let's say, like I said, a nuclear bomb comes down. You see the mushroom cloud coming at you. And you're like, nothing else is happening. You're just staring at this thing. That moment of like, I'm about to die.

It has to be fucking wild. I think you probably like so much like adrenaline. an oxytocin going through your body that you would feel like really high. Well, I was telling them that I saw a TikTok that I can't believe we're talking about this again. That like your brain uses past experience to guide you forward, right? So if you're in a situation that you've been in before, your brain goes back to it and it kind of teaches you how to react this time. And what they say when you have a near death experience or right before you die, your whole life flashes before you, right? So that's not just like a saying.

That's a thing. Well, that's what they're saying. It's saying your brain is searching for. for a reference point, but you're doing something that you've never done before. So it's just flipping through, it's going through all the files,

like, what are we going to do? What are we going to do? And there's nothing, but it shows you everything because you're like, I don't have an answer. That doesn't happen when you do something

you've never done before in any walk of life. It's a TikTok, so it might not be real. Like when I go like cross-country skiing, why don't I just like file through everything? My brain's like, we haven't done this before.

Have you ever been cross-country skiing? Maybe you should try it. Maybe I'll see all the flashes of light. Maybe. Yeah, it's scary. See, I think I'm just a believer When you die, lights out forever. Okay.

You just turn into molecules and dust. Pixie dust. Yeah, star dust and whatever. Just go into like the trees. And then it just kind of, it just floats around. It goes all different directions and then it becomes a part of a new life eventually. A lot of people think you become a mushroom. Well, I watched that documentary.

Yeah. Where the mushrooms eat everything. Yeah. They burn like basically, they have this one pile ash and they just left it there. And then just mushrooms came out of it. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, but I also think like that, right? Like, I think that almost every part of, like, me was a part of a different, like, life form at some point. I don't know what I think. Buddhism a little bit. But I don't mean, like, spiritually. I mean physically. Like, the physical components of me, the atoms and all that are literally from, like, something that was a different life form. At some point, became dirt, became sky, became part of the air and then became another person.

I believe all the science parts. I definitely am, like, on that side. because I'm trying to become a rational thinker with things that I told you guys on the driving range of the PJ Championship here at Oak Hill is that there's got there's just something about the mind and consciousness and dreams and fears and like guilt and all those feelings that makes us feel more than just atoms that like are born evolved like it feels more than evolution it feels more than like apes to cavemen to humans it's like there's something different there there's like a connection

you see a pair of tities, you're like, I like that. Like, there's a different, there's something different. See a hot guy. See Gino, Presidiacomo, you're like, I like that. Well, you know what I mean? Yeah. So that's like, when everything ends, like, where does that go? Like, is that just, is that just like a fragment of who we are?

Is that just like a side gig, you know, of just like humanity? It just goes away with it. Or is that like brought on to something else, you know? I don't know. I'm at a point in my life where I don't know how I feel about it. Because throughout certain points of my life, I've had stronger opinions about it. But now I don't. I'm with you.

I used to be kind of very cold. Like we come from dust. Same. We turn to dust. And now it's like, I think that's cold. I think it's rational. Yeah. Yeah.

It can be rational. But also there's just too much stuff. There's too much warmth in life. There's just, yeah. Buddy, I think one asteroid hits all gone forever. Gone. Yeah. It could be.

Gone. I also used to be at a point where I would... You're actually thinking, like that moment, a healthy person staring at a mushroom cloud coming at him, it's almost more irrational to think that, like, your brain just, like, blanks out right there. Like, I almost think that there's, like, a lingering thing right after it. Like, you know what I mean?

That would make you feel... Just like, just like that moment right after. It's just like something's got to kind of, like, float away. You just think it's just done? You don't even know? Well, what do you think if you got a bullet in the head, it's like that it's just darkness. You don't think that there's like a...

I don't think your brain, your mind's like, holy shit. No. But listen, we talked about this too on the range. I don't think he has a chance to. It's gone. Literally the physical components that make it be like, oh shit have been eliminated.

It's over. But listen, we talk about this in the range too where the PGA championship, by the way, golf tournament. Yeah. Pick a religion, whichever one. I'm not picking on one or the other. No, pick on it. You'll read whatever book or whatever scripture.

And, you know, there's all these crazy stories. But then, and they're like, that sounds made up. But then think about what's actually going on. all the molecules and atoms and, you know, the evolution of it all. That's even more magic. Crazy. If that was in a book, you'd be like, that sounds crazy.

There's a burning ball of gas that's just in the sky right now. And it's shooting out all these rays of things that we can't see. And we're just like warm. And all of it's fucking weird. You know what I mean? It's hard to believe. A lot of it's hard to believe. And all of it is like, we just believe sides.

Both sides can make you feel like the other side is completely ludicrous. Yes. Yeah. Yes. it's like why don't they shit out of another monkey today if I tell like a religious person about like another galaxy we think we're going to find there's like well you sound insane

you know what I mean like I feel I'm talking about we're sending a little tube out of our galaxy and the place that I'm in now with it I feel much more comfortable just kind of like I don't know we'll see what happens I also in the galaxy thing I have nothing that I've ever witnessed seen or calculated that convinces me

that galaxy theory is correct correct Like it's just people that society has told me are smart that are like no yeah that's just what it is right well it's like infinity thing yeah and they were talking about how by that theory there's a person who's exactly like you right who's one hair one more gray hair than you and then it's with two more great great that's the theory of infinity it blew my mind whose leg is crossed the other way yeah right now right and then some people think that dreams is like you kind of like seeing their it's like your brain is kind of like intermingling with what they're thinking like you're seeing little glimpses of what they went through.

Like your dream is just kind of like intercepting that. Yeah. Because dreams really are just like, sometimes they feel really real. Yeah. Really real. And something's just a little bit off. They always feel real. That's all.

You're with like, you're a different crew. You're with a different crew or like it's like two years ago. Like I'm playing on the islanders not watching them. Yeah. I will say, wow, I felt fucking real. That's the weirdest. The weirdest thing about dreams is. everything could be backwards

like heads could be on backwards and when you're in it you don't think about that heads on backwards you think it's normal so what is that any different in the waking state right all right so what are you guys like this week

we did talk about all of that while John Ron was hitting power fades off the fucking look he's just he stands so close to the ball when he drives it it's fucking crazy and he just hits those power bombs man yeah he hits those

peel like like hit it left peel it missiles yeah not spinning though it's like tumbling yeah tumbles he's just right now it's flow state you know he's got one of the best ball flights right right now is fucking math it's patrick yeah it's like a tight little drop oh my god it's fucking awesome yeah i was trying to i was watching him just launched drivers i was trying to picture like playing him in a match how like intimidating it would be to watch that guy tee off it's tight it is an aggressive swing and it's fluid and the ball jumps off his fucking club face. He hits it a mile.

Dude, he does. I was like, we were standing as close as you would to someone, if they're teeing off with you on a T-box, and I was like, that would make me fucking shrivel up into a ball if I had to try and face him. Over and over and over again.

Over and over again. And then he takes out, he had a flight, is it flight scope, the one that goes on the side? Mm-hmm. He had both. He had both.

And he's taking the data from both of them after each draft. Yeah. Filming a swing. The whole thing. With a pencil and fucking paper. Yep. What is he doing? Of every drive he's hitting.

and it's on the big screen on the on the on the trackman like jumbotron thing and here we are out there just guess it and swing after swing yeah it felt but like even amongst those pros John Rom says he likes to hear his yardages within fives like a 75 meters 70 meters right and Fitzpatrick likes to know to the inch millimeter different ways to do it yeah no right answer I like Rom's way by the way I think that's what super athletic yeah and like reactionary. I love that. Feel it. Like be an athlete. Hit it 70 yards. I like windows or like gaps sort of just like put it near there and we're going to be in a good spot. It's also funny. I just don't even know how far my clubs go really. Well, when you win the US Open at the country club, you can just say like I know. Mathis Patrick knows how far as clubs go to the fucking 10th degree.

It's perfect. Rom does too. But like something about what Ram does is just way more impressive to me. Even though it might sound stupid. where it's just like that's just like the way you should do it you know yeah do you actually know that that club was 131 it's like kind of and he does he does i know he does he but does he but does he it's almost like the science people like is there a galaxy there right do you know have you been to rome is religion and matt is science is science yeah just don't know who's right i'm sure they'll both love to copy that it's a little bit more like it's it's art versus science yeah

a little bit but he's rome's still analytical very much just there's just a little bit of room for him to like be like I know where this is going to tell me it's like 131.1. I'm just going to hit it and it's going to go right next to I know for me personally if if I were that good which I'm clearly not I would like having a range as opposed to you got to hit this 132 where do you find yourself then you're a good player yeah not that good um but definitely don't like it when if a guy if someone's like oh it's 173 yeah that doesn't mean anything to me right yeah I go seriously Give me the front.

Let me know what it is. Zero's and five. Zero's and fives. That's just kind of how it works, yeah. Yeah. I think that's right. It's like a one to 140 to one 45 shot. Okay.

I'm just going to like hit an iron is up there. Yeah. You know, zeros and fives. I like that like you said, I like to feel like I'm playing a game out there, not math. You know what I mean?

You're just trying to get it close to the hole. You're not out there playing basketball thinking, okay, I'm 27 feet. I got to do this, this, this. You just kind of go out there and just do it. Is Fitsy more of a mad scientist than Bryson ever was? Yes. I think he's what Bryson tried to be kind of.

Matt just didn't really talk about it until guys like me sort of brought it to light because he doesn't want people to know about it because he feels like it gives him an advantage. That's probably a big part of it. Maybe not a big part of it, but certainly you think even if you're not doing it exactly, you think all the work that you're doing is putting you above. Yeah. So why would you want everyone to know what you're doing and then copy you? But I want Matt to know that nobody else is going to do that.

Yeah, that's true. Nobody else is going to every time beyond. they're a pad and pencil like so he was he was writing them down every time yeah yeah yeah yeah that's classic i saw a guy the guy with him had so many pencils was like he must go through so many i was gonna say he must go through a lot of pencils i'm doing the pencil thing now i saw that i actually brought that up to my friends when you put that up i'm like i don't know why i never did that made me jealous it's funny i kept because i'm the scorecard guy yeah like whenever we go especially when we walk when you're a cart nobody's really a scorecard person just whoever stood in the

driver's seat but when we walk i've just always liked to keep score i like to stand on the tea and know who strokes and whatever i just enjoy doing it and so most of the time i've kept pencils from different places but like not all of them but generally kept them always kind of thinking like this would be a cool thing to collect never did it never did it because a little part of me also thought like you're fucking dweep like Alex Bush like just don't do that it's weird and then what the hell eventually is a pink spagged in rochester no less wait until we get some of the city limits in rochester And then a week ago, I was on Amazon ordering something else. And I was like, I'm just going to order one of those cases.

So I just looked up. Does it fit 100? I don't know the exact number. It's a lot. Because I had a lot of pencils and I'm only like. Wasn't that full? Right. I didn't know if it was like a top of 100 in the world.

It might be like 100. But anyways, it's way cool than I thought it was going to be. So cool. Like I'm actually really into it. And it's it really showcases a lot of like the courses sort of like artistry. Because like the Shinnock one. It's like red. There's not that many red pencils.

And then there's a lot of them that are just basic sort of the octagon with just like the all caps like block letter writing. Like Pinerst has one like that. And it's just cool to kind of see how different there. I think it's really cool. It's just got the Oakmont OCC logo on it. It doesn't actually say Oakmont, which cool. So going through the actual pencils is cool. And then like pretty much all the ones that I still have are the ones that I used for that round.

So I like that too. This one like wrote scores at that ball. I like that. I'm very into that. I'll never forget fucking Eisenhower changed all their pencils. Eisenhower, blue, red and fucking white

changed their pencils to Ed Mangano, Nassau County Executive on all the fucking pencils. That guy sucked. Worst County Executive of all time. Because of the pencils? Just everything.

They lost the Islanders. It was everything. That guy sucked. But it's just, I remember playing, me and my day sneak on, we'd hop the fence, and we'd go and grab a pencil

because we couldn't get it because we didn't actually go to the guy. We'd go back to the first hole. We'd get a pencil. It'd be an orange pencil. It said Ed Mangano, Nassau County Executive. Like, imagine I was collecting pencils. I had to put that. I had to put that in my fucking thing. He got to put his name on there. It was crazy. It was crazy. That's North Korea, man. Oh, it was, it was horrible. He can't have that. I'll never forget that. No, you can't have it. I did notice a few of the public courses have, like, their, their, like, URL on the pencil. Like our boy at Bailey Farms.

It says like Bailey Farms underneath. It's like www. Baileyfarms.com. They're grinding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoyed that. That's cool. For us, golf is very simple.

It's a chance to get out, have some fun with our friends. Inevitably, little things have a way of ruining it. The group ahead might be taken forever. We already did talk about slow play on the show. Your buddy counting bogeys as birdies or you've turned into a shankopotamus. When you find yourself stressing out over golf like this,

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Bleep it. If you have to bleep it, bleep it or don't. Either way. We were at 13. Is the F word? At the Rock. I was,

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at the Rock City Scramble. People are drinking fireball like crazy. Hold on. Let me redo that. No, no, in real time. We're going to keep all this in. Fireball whiskey is there to help you say, F it and free your fire.

Perfect. Better? Yeah. Yeah. Fireball cinnamon whiskey was flowing, like you said, did the Roxanne scramble? It was getting everyone through. A little wind gusts would come in

and they'd have the little nips in their carts and they would all take it on the first tea when they came through. Yep. And it just gave everyone, you saw that little shoulder shimmy. And they're like, whoa, I just felt that go right down to the sternum and now I feel good. and every single guy that did that piped one right down the middle

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Tommy. No, I don't think you did. I thought we did for a second, did we? No, I don't think so. Shout to him. We gave him some more merch. Every time we see Tommy Fleetwood at one of these events that we have our merchandise, by the way, thank you to everyone that has bought our merchandise.

It is on the store. A lot of merch. Most of it is sold out. We have T-shirts. So if you like the logo of the PGA. championship and you want to get a t-shirt to commemorate the championship and you're watching it on tv and you're like oh i'd like to have that it's still on our website so go to barcel sports store on your app or store to barcelstoresports.com ton of t-shirts left everything else is pretty much sold out

unless you're like a small or a double excel there's a couple of things left down there but t-shirts for sure make sure you go and grab them Tommy fleetwood has just become a huge fan of our merchandise we saw him with the players he goes i want one of those hoodies we got him the hoodie he wore it every single day from his car into the clubhouse. There was a clip. There was like there was one clip, right? Quick clip. Because he had played well and it was like Sunday. Leaders were showing on. He wore them all four days.

Yeah. And then today he goes, you got any more merch here? And he saw he was like picking that Trent's arm looking at the unreal PJ championship Oak Hill hoodie. And he goes, oh, this is really nice. I'm like, I'll get one for you. So we ran. We got the extra medium that was in my bag. We gave it to Tommy. It was a new one. It had the tag on it. Give it to Tommy. He was fucking. glowing. He legitimately smiled ear to year. He was in between shots on the range, saw me holding it up,

and came over, got the hoodie. And then his catty was like, where's mine? And we laughed. He goes, I'm dead serious with his like, his accent. I started to take mine off. Yeah, you started taking yourself. He said way too big. He looked at, he looked at it. He was way too big. And this guy's like, six foot six. He's huge. He's big. He's big. He said way too big. But that's fucked up. That would have fit him for sure. So I was on your side. Okay. I was. And he was like, you're going to be cool. I was like, dude, if you're going to wear it every day, At the PJ Championship. The caddy goes, I'm wearing this during the championship.

So put it in my locker and I'll wear it that day. So now Danny Rap is going to take our hoodie and put it in the locker of Tommy Fleetwood's caddy. And you should see that on the broadcast. Weather dependent. Weather dependent. If it's cold and chilly, he will be wearing a tan PGA, O'Kill, Barstool Golf hoodie. He finished like fifth in his last start. Oh, my gosh.

He's like in the final group. If you're coming to PGA or if you're just going to be watching a ton of the, coverage, keep an eye out for Tommy walking in to Oak Hill. I'm sure he's going to be wearing the hoodie each day. So I want a screenchats video is a whole deal. Great guy. Is this coverage one of the weeks where they give us like TNT

or something? No, I think it's ESPN. I think it's ESPN and CBS or something. I think that's right. It used to be TNT, the PJ Championship. Yeah, that was TNT, I feel like. I'm pretty sure it was E&T. It's ESPN. Do you remember that shit? TNT PJ Championship? Maybe it was like, it might have even been the Masters. That was T&T and

no, I think it was definitely the PGS. For a while it was. He was like Brian Anderson was on the call. It was strange. Wow. Yeah. Boy, I have no recollection of that. Yeah.

You used to have to watch like Thursday Friday at T&T or something. We saw Trevor Emelman speaking of CBS. Yep. He has a Augusta National wallet. Oh yeah, because I tweeted. So I got a new wallet. It's the coolest thing I ever seen. I got a new wallet and it's very slippery right now because it's new.

The leather is slippery. The Timberlin wallet? Yeah. Is that a good brand? I just noticed it. It was 20 bucks on Amazon. But I, um, Amazon's a great.

We went out of teeth the other. at Buffalo Wild Wings, which I'm sure was sacrilegious in this area of the country. You got a chirp for that. It's just mid. It's just mid. It's just mid. Yeah. You know what you're getting, though.

But I agree. I'm actually, the bonless wings are great. They're just chicken. I'm actually anti-going to a place like that in a town. But it just was easy. It was close to the hotel. It's like someone going to Sabaros in New York or like a fucking.

Yeah. But my wallet. California pizza kitchen in New York City. My wallet. I used to go out a lot. My wallet slipped out of my pocket. And it was in the, the booth and I went back to the hotel

and then I realized it and I had to go back to the wall wing so this thing's slippery. It's been slipping out of my pocket all over town and I saw Trevor Hillman and I tweeted about it and he's like you got your wallet on you and I was like yeah I still have it. He just sees everything. He sees everything I showed him my wallet I gave it to him and like look how slippery that is and he took his wallet out

and he's like look at mine and it was an Augusta National wallet. Not one you can buy in the merch 10 either. No but you get at the pro shop though he said it's so nice perfect green classy green not like it was dark dark green like a beautiful it was beautiful little imprint imprinted master's logo oh yeah it was it's not like it was actually kind of like that but it was exactly like it was right in the corner people can't see it won the master's tournament let me ask you a question that i should

probably know the answer to is he the captain again for the no like weird oh weird is okay but he's still involved right i think he like helped pick the captain okay yeah probably be an assistant probably assistant something like that you guys want to hear my picks i got and i'd I love to hear your picks. For this week. Sure. All right. First one, top 30 plus 300,

the Yeager bomb. It's your guy. Stefan, I think it was. Stephen Yeager. Dude, go look at his results. I can't. I'm no fucking service in Rochester. But he sent you the Wi-Fi.

Oh, can't get it. I-C-in-N-N-N-Net. I forgot. And what's the best of it? Or I-C-C- Wireless. I'll click to connect. Dude, his results. This guy's been playing great.

Consistent golf. Okay. Stefan Yeager. Let me look up the German fellow. The Yeagermeister. German 5th. Oh, he's not 59 on the corned fairy tour. He's sick.

So top 30 plus 300. I got Jason Day, top 10. I like that. Plus 300. I'm going to reval. I'm going to say even post practice round. I got to read. He's not planning any practice.

That was a pre-presser pick. I got Dustin Johnson to defeat Victor Hovlin for the week. Plus 105. You told me about that one. That one, I think I'm going to jump on that one. Plus money, DJ. I just wanted to live tour, which we don't know what that means. But we kind of know, I mean, Brooks was a good example.

True. We saw him today, DJ. He looked like he was in good spirits. Yeah, you did. Okay, good. I think you're right after the Brooks thing because he won the Orlando Muni tournament. Yep. Right?

And then right away almost won the master tournament. Correct. I got Zander Schaftly top 10. Wow. Plus 175. Okay. The reason there was a pause there, I was just trying to think, is Zander going to win a major? ever.

And it feels like a yes, but I just had that thought flashed into my head. The answer feels like a yes. It does, but he's been that guy for like five years now. Your boy, the Yeagermeister has had some fucking finishes. Read these off.

I'll start the players championship. Oh, even before that, this guy's been fucking playing. Genesis Invitational, T40, two under. Hanna Classic T14, 6 under. The players, T44, he was three. Valspar Championship.

He went even, at T27. Then he was cut at the RBC Heritage, and then he started playing some good golf. T-18 at Mexico Open, T-27 at the Wells Fargo, and then a T-11 at 18-Under par at the AT&T Byron Nelson.

Those are all better than top 30. Every single one of those, except for the, obviously he had the cut at the RBC, but four out of his last five, his worst finish was T-27. And he's plus 300 to finish top 30. Yeah, no, this guy's trending in the right direction.

This is the golf, the Eagermeister. Yep. I like him a lot. Zander. top 10 plus 175 and then my winner this week is john rob yeah what are his odds right now on wednesday of the 750 i think plus 750 kirk and i kirk was obviously chirped me for going out of a limb there i think he's the second betting favorite in the tournament i think scottie shovels plus 700 but kind of crazy to me yeah a little crazy but yeah he hit about 300 golf balls on the driving i think this is

he was practical i think this is going to be a year where john rom wins two majors mm-hmm so if you bet on the next three then you'd be in the closet get him at plus 750 in the next three. We also walked with him. We've talked to him almost every single day. We've been out of the focus. That's a fact. The vibes are out of the focus.

It's going to be one of the charts. I said to him, I said, oh, it's John Rom of Barstall Sports. He thought that was very funny. It is, but it's a chalky pick, but you're going to,

the tournament's going to end, and everybody's going to be like, yeah, of course John Robb is going to win that tournament. We're getting a little too comfortable with him. Today, he was walking, like, up to us, and I was like, what do you got in there? He was just like, coffee.

I'm trying to make conversation about everything now we're just like his fucking buddies he laughed he's like just coffee I was like okay I'm pretty cool I actually bought a flag today and the reason I bought it

was that John Rom can sign it when I see in Wisconsin when it wins yeah I bought a flag but I'm thinking on my back wall I don't really have room for more flags I might have to start moving some shit around

I need a man cave I don't have a man cave I have a basement that I haven't like redone yet I can probably turn that into that I think that's gonna be man cave Maybe. She's afraid of the basement, so probably.

Scary down it? Basements are scary. Yeah, they are. You didn't grow up with a basement? I could see you being scared of a basement. It's just like the door kind of creaks all the time walking down. I grew up with a basement and that's where the washer and dryer were for laundry. I was always hustling.

I would hustle down there and I would put the clothes in the dryer and I'd be hustling. I'd be throwing dryer sheets and then I run up the stage. There's just things that like we have these little spider crickets that sometimes find their way in the basement. The basement's just a place where, like creatures are things just happen noises are happening little drips are happening on the concrete by the boiler something about it's just it's just not perfect you could have a beautiful mansion and like that little area by where the heater is and all like the water boil it's just weird humans don't like being underground until it's time yeah it's probably like a human instinct

it's like well i'm down i'm i don't want to be down here not yet not yet i would also say that if you're an ill-doer in a residence, you're probably going to hide in the basement. Right. Right? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean... Every time I walk in my basement and turn on the...

You have to turn on the light, like when you turn in the corner, I always think that right when I turn the light, I'm just going to see like a, just like a ghost of a girl just like a girl. I feel like I'm always scared of seeing rodents. Or like, or just like a family that had been murdered like 10 years ago. The ghost of a girl. How far are you from Amityville? I don't like it.

I don't like it. I don't like this. Amityville's not that one. In 20 minutes. Amityville horror. Within 20 minutes. It's not far from here? From where I am.

From where you are. I don't like that. 10, 15 minutes. I hate that right now. You go see the house, dude. Yeah, I'm going to do that. It's sold and lived in right now. Who are those crazy people?

Psychos. I don't know as close. You can buy any house. There's so many. Again, I'm on Zill all the time. There's so many houses. They're everywhere. Let's say we do believe in like the pixie dust and you just,

every lights are out. Okay. How do we explain all like the crazy shit that's happened with like. paranormal shit I'm not a scientist there's some wild accounts of paranormal shit happening right like exorcisms of people

and they're like flying up and hitting the fucking ceiling and shit no I I've always said that I don't believe in ghosts just to make myself feel better because I'm pretty sure I believe in ghosts like it's like a cheat for my own brain like if I'm in a scary situation if I'm in a basement I'm like this stuff's not real but in the back of my head it's like we gotta go we just got to get that fuck out of here. I don't know. I'm again, I'm in a place where it's just kind of like, who knows?

It's a little bit like Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson says of aliens. Like now, okay, it's been like 15 years. Everyone's had a camera at their, on their hands all the time. Wouldn't we just see them all the time? People would have footage of them all the time. CCTV should see ghosts on a regular basis. There'd be all over the place. There'd be thousands of videos of ghosts every day. What do you think, Dan? Well, wasn't there like a thing? Do you think they know? Well, wasn't there thing like a year ago or something where the army said that they like acknowledge there was a there was a big UFO setting that the army said like

we can't explain this. Yeah the military has in the last couple years has come out there's been documentation where it's like we don't know what this shit is right. Yeah and which is that's the way the news cycle works now it's like Logan Paul claims that he bought he paid a shit ton of money 100 grand

150,000 for this he was or someone was trying to sell this video of a UFO he claims it's like the clearest visual evidence of aliens here on Earth and Logan Paul like sneaky like recorded it with like a fake button on his shirt

and recorded it as the guy was showing it to him and he like has the footage and he's claimed it was on his podcast impulsive or whatever and he was claiming that he's going to release it to the world at some point he was pissed off that this guy was holding on to something that's supposed to be so life changing Is that just like theft? I don't know I have to listen

to the whole thing. Intellectual property theft yeah that's the crux of it's also just sounds like a guy who knows how to give you also claimed that the video wasn't that good. It was like a blurry video, but he's like the way that this thing moves through the air is absurd. Yeah, those have been the latest reports that like, or the latest crazy revealings are that the way these things are flying

and then turning in a 90-degree angle, like no human thing could do that because the human would crash through the wall and like explode into pieces. Like you couldn't do it. Yeah. It's impossible. Propulsion systems, right? Yeah.

Like they're seen moving forward. but there's no plume or there's no, there's nothing like that shows why the one that went like straight by the plane and then just went up. It's like straight up and down. See that stuff totally. But like to Neil deGrasse Tyson's point, I don't know if he's right.

But like the alien or the ghost thing, there would just be thousands of videos of ghosts. Yeah. Right? Unless the ghost now. Also could just be like, it's like they've been living in the future. They say that fucks people up.

They ever see the video of the plane that's not moving? Yeah. And they say it's just because. It's just it was moving this way. You were moving that way. The person that was filming, it was moving at the perfect speed for the plane to not be moving. It looked like the plane was legitimately not moving.

That video is weird. It looks like the plane is just stuck in the air. And she's like, what the fuck? Yeah. Type in plane stuck in the air video. Bush has a scene. I could tell by his reaction. You haven't seen this?

Dude, they're driving down the street. They look up and it's a 747 that's just above them. It's just not moving. It looks like it's being hung by fucking. Pinocchio string. You have it? Same? I just stood up.

Yeah. All right. Is this plane hovering? Yeah. It's got to be here. I've never seen this either. You've never seen this? Come look at this.

That plane looks like it's just hovering. That's not the one, but it's the same idea. It's not the same one. Yeah. It's just not moving. It's just kind of hovering. Is that crazy? No way.

Look at that. No way. Dude, it hasn't moved from that tree. It's moving this way? No, they're just moving in a way. It doesn't know. You don't know. It hasn't moved.

It looks like it's stuck in the air. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like it's an Independence Day ship that's just hanging. Right. No, it's bizarre. Yeah. But like, it's just, I don't know what that is. The right angle.

It probably is moving. I don't know. Has to be moving. Whatever, man. I believe in aliens. believe in ghosts. They might be one and the same. Could be.

I hope I'm wrong. It would make life a lot more like... Oh yeah. Come back and haunt some people? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Whereas the lights out thing stinks. For sure.

I don't want that. That's the worst scenario. I think I believe in reincarnation. Do you? Yeah. Buddhist. Buddhism, right? I think I just believe that like I'm...

I'm going to feel like I'm someone else next time. Do you know what I mean? Or if you were a bad guy, then you end up like a slug. Yeah, that's definitely possible. I'm with you and I I'm down with that too but would you would you feel it now? Dude, that slug would be what do you mean? Like who's saying

the interview? No, I don't think this is the first me. I don't think I'll know I don't think I'll know what's happening. I just think I'll just, this dome will be somewhere else. All right. Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for at least. I'm good with all of it. Yeah. It's more fun that way. When you're just like, like

I was saying earlier, like I, there was a point in my early 20s when I was just like, I'm an atheist and this is all dust for dust. But then it's more fun to just be like, I don't really know. Yeah. Who fucking knows. Agnostic is you,

you just believe that we don't know, right? Yes. Yes. That's right. And atheist says that like there is no God. Anybody who thinks they have, that was my problem with atheism at the end was like, anybody who thinks they have an answer,

whether it's you're dead and you're gone or you go to some place in the clouds where there's angels and everything you ever wanted, anybody who thinks to know the answer, they're probably wrong. Yeah, that's kind of... It's arrogant. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah, atheism I'm out on too. Yeah, because it's too much like, I have this answer. Why is that any more different than the other person has the answer? Right, right, right. I'm not in on that either. I'm close to agnostic, I think. That's a good way to be.

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He's like talking about it on the range. Yeah. 22 club championship. He owns like 22 golf courses. How many does he own? How many does he own? How many is he got? I bet that number is the same. How many is he played in?

That's a hilarious number of club championships claiming one. I would say that there's got to be plenty of clubs where there's like one golfer that's just way better than everyone else that his guys won like 45. You think? But then you start to get pretty old. Yeah. Right?

Once you've won more than 22 or 8. It's 22 years of dominance. Then you're already, let's say you started. winning him at age 20. If you've won 40, you're 60 now. I don't know. If you're not good, you probably won it when you're like 13. I want to talk to the greatest club champion in America. I want them to reach out to us.

Like, who do you think owns that title? Who's won the most club championships in the country? Is it 50? I just don't know. There's probably a really small club where there's like one really good golfer. I would guess so much more than 30. Do you think they have a club championship each year if they have that small of a club?

I think more than 30. I think over 30. Wow. Because if a guy wins when he's raining supreme over that club, 14 until 55, that's definitely, that's 40 years. So for people's like a member of a club of 15, this one guy just kept winning in here. And then they allow them to play. I feel like who to heard about it. Yeah. Maybe not.

Reach out. Let us know. Reach out. If you think that you have the greatest record in club championships or you know of one. Or you know of one. Let us know. You have to come with like facts, though. I need a plaque. Yeah. I need to see a picture of the right. I want to walk into a clubhouse and see this guy's name 30 times.

You're just like For most people's full membership lives at this club, this guy just won every year. Because like when you see one guy's names like five or six times, you're like, whoa. 30, no way. I think it's possible. I think of 30 golden little plates.

Impossible. Rename the championship out of that. What's the most impressive club champion to be in the country? Honestly, like maybe like Whisper Rock. where there's just like pros on pros on pros? Yeah, true.

Because like, I know the obvious answer would be like a gustave. But I feel like the golfer level isn't that hot. Yeah, Whisper Rock's pretty impressive. Yeah, like a Whisper Rock. Who wins the Whisper Rock Club Championship? Is John Rom? I think they have, I mean, yeah, pros playing it. Yeah.

I don't think it's just a pro. But there are a lot of them that pros aren't allowed. I mean, for the club pro at like Wingfoot, they have a lot of really good players there. Yeah. That's definitely a big one to win. I would say Wingfoot would be probably top of my list. Do they have a club?

championship at a guesda like a club championship i don't know if everyone's there at the same time i feel like they have their i'd like i'd actually love to watch that they ever broadcasts yeah isn't jeff knox like the club champion every year there's a new guy now jeff knox is uh michael mcdermin i think he's like the guy he's the marker now yeah

nox oh really yeah they pass they passed the torch oh wow i'd love to watch the members play agusta just like regular guys hacking it out there they could just broadcast that i'd watch every second absolutely they would take over our youtube in two seconds doing that. We got to head to this airport or what? Absolutely.

Yeah, we got to go to the airport. We got, when this comes out, what we're doing Barstall Classic in St. Louis? You guys will be filming? We got all kinds of, we're just rolling through, man, rolling through. Barstall Classic on Monday in Iowa, which is...

I'll still be in Rochester. Yeah. Enjoy your time here. Yes, sir. Enjoy it. I would like the state for the record. I like Rochester. All my jokes were pointed at making Alex Bush feel sad.

I do like it here. Yeah. We like Rochester. Pro Rochester. Not pro-pro Dan. None of us tried a garbage plate. You're so mean. Yeah, we could have last night, but he did.

How to go. Brendan, I don't think he likes it, but I think he just wants him. He wants me to be unhappy. Brendan, would you think about it's an honest guy? It was, I mean, you hyped it up to be like some of the best food I was ever going to eat. It was just like two burgers, no bun, some cheese on them, macaroni salad. So there's like mayo and shit on it, which is weird. And it's all in one plate.

crispy home fries and like taco beef that's what I mean that's what you guys call the hot hot meat hot meat yeah meat hot meat sauce but you could put that on taco so it's just a bunch of mush yeah and you cut it all up and you you know shove it in your fit it tastes good it's like sometimes some bites tasted better than others

you also got no comment on my I'm not a mustard guy yeah I if we got back it was the first thing Frankie asked me he's like what I miss And me and Taylor Ray were like, not much. Really? Yeah. No culture. I know I would like it. I know for sure that I would like it.

Yeah, it's just, you know. It's just things that we like a pretty good amount all put on the same plate mashed together, right? Yeah, but you put the pussy on a pedestal. That's kind of food. Yeah. Yeah, you can't. It's, it didn't live up to.

You know, four-year-old version? Yeah, but it did the pussy on a pedestal. Put the pussy on pedestal. You can't do that. Yeah. It's no, um, it's a, it's a, it's, it's, it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, parlor burger height in Minnesota Yeah, that lived up to it. You talk about

the parlor burger and you're like, you're not going to believe this burger when you go there and everyone leaves there being like, it's the greatest thing I've ever eaten. But I also didn't say you're not going to believe, I said it's That's true. I said this is. But the amount of hype around this thing was insane. Yeah. From others. Yesterday, every single person said you have to get a garbage. It's a local thing. It's a local thing. Yeah. I didn't say

this is going to be the greatest thing you've ever had in your life. Speaking of the greatest thing you've ever had or seen, your father is one fucking character, man. Titan of Western New York. I love him. I love that guy. I love him too. I love him, too.

He loves you too. Yeah, it was good to meet the Bush family. Foke highly of you. Do you love him, Alex? Yeah, of course. He spoke very highly of Alex. So did his mother. We met Alex's whole family.

You met my mom. Yep, of course. Yeah. Do your parents listen to the show? My dad's struggles. Your dad knows a good amount about us, though. He always says, I tried to find the podcast. I just can't find it.

I'm like, well, I don't know. Google it. My mom follows like the clips. Tbone. He knows a good amount about us, though. Tbone. Yeah, he knows what's going on. He definitely knows what he's called.

He's a titan of the TV industry. It's crazy. You shake his hand. He brings it in towards you. He's old school. He's fucking smack in your arm. How tall is he? Six, five?

Six, six, is probably? My brother's like six eight, though. That's crazy. Yeah, your dad just has a presence. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's a really nice guy. cool guy your mom was very proud yeah I'm proud of you Alex we're all proud of you

you know during pandemic when he didn't have a job anymore we were like just keep at it and then he found bar stool and now it's like Jesus Christ dream come true your mom did say that acted like a fucking she really did say that that's amazing how things happen right like during like you know I applied for an Islander's job wow well the thing about us push that we saved you bush every time I like if I'm just hanging out with Alex he'll just he's had every job in Like the sports, digital sports space. Didn't you work for a rapper?

Yeah, Mike. Just like, just Mike. Yeah, Riggs knows them. Yeah, you work for the NBA. I lost $2,000 in a beer party.

To beer pong, yep. NBA G League, PJ Tour, rapper. That was the night I got COVID. He's done. He's done. He gave us.

Checked out. Brendan Jones was on News 12. He was a newscaster. Yeah. Working for MLB Network. Both these guys have bounced around like fucking crazy. A little bit more stable here. A little bit more stable here,

but it's fucking we don't let you guys sleep, which is. Do you go to the. Senator Alex Bush is like kissing people on the neck. He knows everybody in there. He's a god up here. It's crazy. I just know people.

I don't know. It's crazy. Yeah, you just, yeah, you grew up here. My dad was also, like,

in TV. So, like, half the people there are, like, local TV in Rochester. I just know them through growing up and connections and friends.

Dad told me, doesn't he owns like 80 stations or something? He's retired now, but there's, there's, I don't know how many days. I think there's more than, I think there's over 100,

but it's, over a hundred stations. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's another unbelievable fact. He's retired now, but like his conglabort owns this network that puts Liv Golfo.

Yeah. I was trying to get to get an inside scoop from Alex and he's like, I can't. He's like, I can't. Sorry, trying. I just didn't want to for you. You're really mean to me. We have to talk about it. No.

Yeah, we do have to talk about that. Alex Bush said that his favorite part this year was when Dan didn't get invited to the dad by class. He said, He was doing the chop. He was so happy. He was spinning in his chair. Spinning gleated.

It's a great day. I love you, Bushie. All right. Let's go to the airport. Get the fuck out of here. Dude, major championship golf tomorrow on television. Very cool. I can't wait.

I can't wait. O'Kill's going to be badass. We're going to see a lot of bad shots. People try to hit stuff out of the rough. It's going to be sweet. I think we're going to see some of the, like, you know the shots out of the rough that go like seven yards? Yeah. We're going to see some of those.

Oh, yeah. Those are good. Give that to me. All right, enjoy Major Golf. We've got every day we're doing like a half-hour recap podcast that's going to go live on YouTube as well. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and then Sunday we'll put the actual podcast, knee-jerk reaction podcast up. So every day you're getting stuff from us. We're going to be in tune, in line.

We're going to be plugged in to the PGA championship and we're going to be delivering every day. So thank you for listening. We'll be back tomorrow, literally later today. Hit it hard. Hit hard. Hit hard.