Fore Play - Division by Rangefinder
Episode Date: February 11, 2021In typical golf fashion, the world is divided by something as dumb as rangefinders. Should they be allowed for pros? Is it faster? Does it ruin the “artistry” of the game? We also discuss DJ winni...ng in Saudi Arabia then withdrawing from Pebble, the handicap police, and who will win another major first — Tiger or Spieth???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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February 11th, 2021.
I say that only because February 10th is my brother's birthday.
So happy birthday to my brother.
My brother is really the main reason that I'm as in the golf as I am.
So happy birthday to my brother.
Big debate.
You know, I think he's 38.
So he was trying to claim like late part of his mid-30s.
We were all like late 30s.
then he starts chirping me about how I'm like mid 30s I'm 34 and it's like well I'm I'm trying to claim low 30 so it's a whole thing anyways happy birthday to my brother we got a lot to get to we've got the range finder situation another from the outside extremely dumb and small thing that on the inside everyone is taking sides and bickering about and arguing about in the golf world which is like range finder so we're going to get into the range finder debate we got a bunch of
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Up and down, yeah.
Up and down.
I think he's still just going to make a shit ton of money, though.
I think his just day-to-day stuff is changing.
You know, I think he's going to get himself in a situation where he's still going to make
a ton of money.
That would be my guess.
Be surprised if he didn't.
Very surprised.
I was looking at Elon Musk, who we interact with quite a
bit. Well, Dave does. That guy. I mean, he went from, I don't know how these, these guys are in such a
fake astronomical amounts of money world, but he went from worth like 70 or 80 billion, which is a
lot, to worth like 200 billion in a couple of years, which he went from, you know, like top
20 or whatever it is to like number one richest guy in the world. And then one bad day on the
stock market and they go down like 30 billion. It's fucking nuts what goes on with these.
It is always like it'll be, oh, Elon Musk is now the newest, richest man in the world.
And then three days later, it's like, no, Bezos is actually back up there.
You know what's crazy is people are sleeping on Putin.
And I know Barstall Chief has talked about this.
But that dude has a billion dollar house.
I saw this on Dog Walk the other day, him and Eddie, Chief and Eddie we're talking about, by the way, great podcast.
They just talk about, they do some crazy fucking, like, they break down the craziest shit in the world sometimes.
and like they put out these clips on social and chief is talking about these crazy these crazy things he said Putin has a billion dollar house one billion dollars household and here comes large with his fucking star trek background from the full of my story he joins his fucking podcast he's inside a fucking hanger oh shut up we moved it around for your dumb ass so so we're talking we're talking about vladimir you're going to job you fucking piece of shit all right number two um here we go and now you're stepping up the second thing that i was going to say about that is he
just has he has hundreds of billions of dollars people think because he just takes the money from like the government and just uses it for his own like that's technically his like his like his money to just spend listen i don't know much about vladimir putin but he i feel like he's gotten to the level where the money doesn't necessarily matter he's so powerful in russia that he doesn't need money money ceases to exist when you have as much power as he does right by lunch well what if putin buy lunch
Like, does he go and just spend money on things?
Things are just provided.
Yeah.
He might as well, Frankie, he might as well have, if you just took the total amount of money that the Russian government has, that is how much money is Vladimir Putin has.
You know, when Subway spokespeople, they get the Subway Platinum card and everything, if they want a subway, they can get anything they want for free.
Putin has that in Russia, but for everything.
And I think, I'm pretty sure he has like three different palaces.
and he commutes to the Kremlin a different way all the time
so that people don't know his route and can't get after him.
But I will also say that I'm pretty scared right now because Russia,
they're pretty high, you know, they're always hacking it.
Like if they can hack into the U.S. government and banks and stuff,
do you know what the blockade system is like for for play?
Like, he could, they could just erase us from Earth.
So I'm not.
So we're not.
We're not in any way here.
Vlad, if you're listening.
We're not political.
Whatever your thing is, like, fine.
Just let us play golf and talk about golf and love Tiger Woods.
That's totally, everything's fine.
I like Semyon Varlamov.
He's a Russian goalie for the New York Islanders.
He shut out the New York Rangers the other night.
He is a brick wall when it comes to the Broadway.
Sergei Federoff with the white Nikes.
I'm not a big fan of what's going on over there in Russia.
I'm not going to say that I condone what's going on,
but I do want to say that there are a couple people that come out of that country
that I do enjoy.
That's what I was going to say.
It's not going out on a limb to save Vladimir Putin, bad guy.
Yeah, bad guy.
I mean, I don't know if, I mean, Varley's a hell of a goaltender.
I don't know if he's a great guy.
No, he's done some stuff too, yeah.
Yeah, he's done some awful stuff.
Not a hockey podcast.
Also, not a global relations podcast.
No.
But I agree.
We're anti-corruption.
So, you know, it's that we can say that.
We don't like corruption.
wherever that places us in the geopolitical realm.
I get onto a Russian fucking talk here,
but when we're talking about the richest man in the world,
I do think people are sleeping on Vladimir Putin.
I do think he just has more money than anyone can understand.
Yeah, I think that's correct.
I don't think he's on the Forbes list
because they just don't know how to compute how much money he has.
Yeah, I read something one time.
I read like a profile on Putin that was fascinating.
And the biggest nugget I took out of it was that Putin's like a big sleep-in guy.
Like he sleeps in late.
I've been waking him up and he's tired.
But I mean, KGB president of Russia, who's like this savage,
I think he's up at 4 a.m. ready to conquer the world.
They were like, yeah, he sleeps in until 10 or 11 a lot of time
and then just meanders his way over the crib of that.
Every other billionaire you hear about it.
They're up at 4 a.m.
They run 10 miles before 6 a.m.
And they're just making deals.
Putin, he's hitting the snooze 15 times and waking up right before lunch.
I'm pretty sure, according to Chief, like,
They're revolting over there in Russia.
The people over there have had enough.
And if he's just sleeping in, it just doesn't care.
I mean, that's just a very Putin thing to do.
I would assume right now he's up early.
He's this Navalny guy.
I listen to a whole podcast on this guy.
Dude, this guy got poisoned to the point where he nearly died.
They tried to kill him.
And then he goes off to, I think, Germany.
And then on his own will decides to come back a year and a half or whatever later once he's recovered.
And then they just, they, they, they, they, they,
divert his airplane to a different airport where they just take him clearly.
Like that was obviously going to happen.
And now Russia is like in full revolt.
And I got to this stuff always cracks me out is the, you know, the Russian media reported that like, yeah, around 500 people are like protesting.
And it's like hundreds of thousands, if not millions across the country.
So they can kind of do and say whatever they want, which is not funny.
It's terrible.
But the long story short is that we are anti-corruption in this podcast.
and that's that's it luckily russia doesn't really dip into the golf world very often so we don't
you've probably never heard us talk about russia before are there any good russian golfers have
they're just trying to think i don't think they have golf like i don't know golf like is a thing
where you're going to go very weird in some european countries you have to be like a certain
handicapped to even be allowed to play which is germany's like that yeah it's bonkers it's
Like how, so you just, if I'm not an eight, I can never play golf?
How do I ever get to an eight?
Like, this sucks.
This is a stupid world if I can't.
Like, I don't start as an eight.
I just have to go through like training programs and then you have like a test round, I think.
And then if you do, you get basically a license to golf in country.
It's wild.
I just, I just Googled best Russian golfer.
And it might as well send me to a 404 error page.
There's just nothing on it.
I wish you just said Putin.
Because like the highlights of when he plays hockey against other people,
it's like the party in the state.
Like nobody will even touch him.
And then he scores on barley.
Well, it's like when Kim Jong plays golf.
He's like I shot 18 over 18 holes.
What do you want?
When I used to blog about politics,
I remember like every couple months it would pop up that I'd have to blog.
Like Vladimir Putin plays in really important hockey game,
scores eight goals in like 11 to 2 route.
It's like, and it was great.
They watch, he's out there with like Ovechkin and stuff, but he's the leading score.
So that's just sort of what they do in that part of the world.
Remember that time he tripped over the red carpet and people just probably got murdered because
of that?
He was sitting around waving to all the crowd and he just skated over the red carpet that was
going out to center ice and he fell and everyone shrieked in horror that Putin was on the
ice.
And he got up and you just know people were getting thrown into like the Zamboni machine.
Yeah, I think it's probably best we drop Putin conversations.
I don't think we should talk about him anymore, obviously.
A lot of Putin talk.
It's a lot of Putin talk.
Dude, Putin kills people in D.C.
He kills people in London.
Like, there is.
He's a fucking scary dude, man.
Right.
I think we can cut that out.
I don't, like, I don't want, this is public.
Like, that gets to him.
And he's like, I could just delete these guys from ever talking about me again.
Bring it, bro.
I don't, I mean, come on.
Bring it, bro.
I, you know, Frankie Burrell, he's got, he's got more important things to be
worrying about than fucking me sitting in a Tory pines on top of 18 talking about Vladimir Putin on a
Putin also has he's a huge dog guy he's got those huge dogs you've seen those pictures of him like
playing with his dogs yeah they're huge it looks like fucking Siberian wolves he's got these crazy
doesn't Russia have just like a crazy amount of like stray dogs and like they were all
dying up there after the Olympics probably yeah it's a bad place out there bad again I'd say
I'd say the bottom line on our Vladimir Putin talk, bad guy.
I think someone like in the NHL the other day, maybe it was Kuznetsov.
One of the Russians got coronavirus and said he was starting to get symptoms.
And they asked him, like, were you nervous?
And his response was, I'm from Russia.
It was him.
It's an awesome lot.
I'm from Russia.
It's like you can talk like Putin's a really bad guy, but there are people that, I mean, the NHL is filled with Russians.
So, I mean, it's not that bad place.
It's just they have a fucking corrupt crazy leader.
that's probably going to murder us all on this podcast.
There's one old highlight type, and I know we're not a hockey podcast,
but it's, I think, of the 1980 Russian Olympic team.
And the defensemen, there's trees that are lined up.
And the defensemen are doing a dry land training.
And they are literally pretending to backskate and throwing their whole body into a tree.
And then they jump into that one, and then they go into the next one.
And that is literally their off-season training where they're throwing like hip and shoulder
checks into trees.
It's like going through a fucking last.
with George Gankis. That's what it feels like.
This guy Tarasov and like as he got old he was like this old fat Russian guy.
He's called like the father of Russian hockey.
He basically established a Soviet Union national team.
And he has all there's all these videos on YouTube of him making these like kids or
whoever was like in the development programs like doing like tumble salts and
and like getting hit by bricks and like throwing pieces of weight at them to like like the
most unorthodox style of getting ready to play for hockey.
but that's why these kids, like, grew up to just be absolute fucking machines.
And they just dominated these young U.S. players for years upon years because they were young kids.
And then that's why obviously the miracle was such a great game.
But, yeah, it's crazy.
Watch some of these videos, like back in the day.
This dude's just walking around like a track suit, just throwing shit at people.
It's nuts.
A little hockey history lesson here on the four-play golf podcast hearing what you're going to get.
Okay.
Enough Russian talk.
Tommy Fleetwood, a little housekeeping.
We're going to go from Russia to Tommy Fleetwood.
but the one club challenge where he plays a par five against us with a lob wedge.
We have full bag.
That's up on YouTube.
Great video.
Awesome job by ebug, by Brendan, by Jake out there filming by Frankie, who has a good hand
in the production staff.
So awesome job by everybody.
Video is really, really good.
So go check it out.
And the George Angus lesson is still up there.
That's going to be evergreen.
That's going to live forever.
But I'm probably getting more messages than I've ever gotten about people.
People are sending me pictures and videos of themselves in front of mirrors and shit in their
how it was looking preposterous.
I mean, looking ridiculous.
But that's the name of the game.
That's what it's the way he approaches teaching the swing is just so preposterous.
Like the way he grabs your hips.
I don't know how many times has he gotten hit in the face by a club.
I mean, he's just right in the mix and tells you to swing fully.
I mean, what if you get the wrong way or are you swing outrageously wrong and you just clip him?
And you don't have any time.
Like he's just like, okay, now swing.
And you're like, no, but you're behind me.
Like, I'm going to kill you.
my golf club but but then he's like what are you waiting for go and then you swing and he's like nope
you didn't get your shoulders and i'm like but you just told i don't i can't i don't even remember what we're
talking about and you're so the whole thing was happening extremely fast but i think that's what he
he he you know he actually looked at me what i was like dude there's a million things going on and he's
like there's nothing going on what do you mean and i'm like well why you're telling me my
fucking hips need to basically rotate like faster than the speed of light and then my shoulders
need to be open and they're closed and my eyes need to move left before like before contacts.
I'm going to be looking at the sky trying to hit the ball.
Meanwhile, all that's going on while all you just told me to do was like swing, swing real quick,
and I'm like, what the fuck.
So yeah, it seems like a lot, but then he also boils it down to you in a way that it makes sense.
Like, oh yeah, if I just rip my hips around, but instead of sliding, I rotate and I open my
shoulders, then like the club face is going to be square.
It's going to have nowhere else to go, but impact the ball with more shaffling.
and it's going to have, you know, so like it makes sense.
But in real time, you know, people were hitting me up like, dude, are you like,
you see in those distance, your game's sick or not?
I'm like, are you fucking kidding me from 30 minutes with Gancis on video?
Like, you think I got better?
I need to go to the range for a year and a half straight before I can do anything.
Like, I don't, what are you talking about is my game better?
So him, him getting you to impact zone was phenomenal.
Him like, and then you were like, and then you were like this and he was like absolutely not.
Like you just did, like you bumped your hip.
you didn't wrote like and then you're just like you're trying to hold it with your legs and it just
looked it looked like somebody you know like when you get graduation photos and they tell you to like
hold your knees look down up and across I don't know if you ever had to do that but like it's just
the most awkward uncomfortable experience of your life and then you're like like this and then he's
like yeah like that you're like well I can't recreate this like you just basically put my body in
like a little laugh I can't do this again yeah I would say it was equivalent to like
you know, you've walked a certain way your whole life.
Like since you were one year's,
you've walked a certain way.
And then if someone came in and just tried to completely change the,
like,
fundamental way that you walk,
you'd be like,
well,
like,
no,
this is like,
well,
I don't even think about walking.
I just walk.
Like,
how am I going to now?
It's that uncomfortable where you're like,
I don't even know,
like,
not only can I not do what you're saying to do,
but I don't even,
like,
want to because my,
body is so against what you're doing that like, how about I just live in this little comfort
circle here that I've been in for a long time and we'll shoot 82 and that's great.
Like you want me to fucking completely retort my body.
It's just the whole thing was was a lot, but he's right.
I mean, he's correct.
I love if you walked off the, I don't know, like the teaching fairway there and are just like,
I don't want to do these changes.
Like, I'm just going to go back.
Yeah.
It does bring up an interesting point where you're kind of thinking.
yourself like how good do I want my golf game to actually be?
Like if I just want to shoot A2s, like that's kind of a nice life.
What do I want to try to be scratch?
I don't want to go too far outside my covered zone where I have to like rip my hips
a bunch of the time.
Like that doesn't sound all that fun.
And like if I could just do it properly, then yes, I would make those changes.
But that's like, that's thousands of hours, I would guess, of like hardcore focusing
on your motion and your biomechanically changing how your body moves.
is that's I have I have shit to do I just I have to talk to you clowns about golf like I have
stuff to do so that's I don't I don't know I can yeah am I standing in my apartment at night for like
30 minutes now like trying to rip my hips around like a crazy person of course but overall like it's
hard and you don't know exactly what it's going to take to get to the result that he wants
and when it doesn't happen quickly right it's like it's like when you go work out like if you go
do one side like solo workout that doesn't do anything you have to work
out for fucking six months straight.
Are you going to get nothing?
Right.
So we were talking about this on cutting stems, The Bachelor After Show, about Tyler Cameron.
He made an appearance the other night on the show.
A lot of people listen to this show right now are not going to know what's going on right now.
But Tyler Cameron, the way he looks and he looks like a supermodel.
You've all seen him.
He's been in the Barnesville office.
And I asked the question, he wasn't there, so I didn't get an answer.
But I was like, how much time out of my day would I have to work out and commit to
eating well and working out?
And it's got to be like 23 out of the 24 hours of the day.
to look like that. And that's just too much.
Like, I can't look like that. I mean, I don't put forth any effort to it as of right now.
But, like, the golf swing is the same thing.
Like, it really depends on how much you want to put into it.
That's how much you're going to get out of it.
And if you can't see the finish line, like shooting, you know, in the low 70s, mid-70s all the time,
you're just like, fuck this.
There's certainly no more Swedish fish at night or Sour Patch kids hanging out in the bed.
It goes very deep.
And I actually think about this yesterday.
We're out here at Tori Pines.
we're doing some filming.
We're getting some great stuff out here, by the way.
And then we had this audio guy.
And audio guys are a fucking weird breed, man.
Like, something's, like, just different about them.
They just listen to people talk all day.
And I just think it does something to them.
This guy is super nice.
That's with us.
But he just said, he just started conversations that were just like, whatever.
He was just out there, man.
And we have them today and tomorrow.
So hopefully it's news.
Hopefully I'm not right now.
No, I'm not.
But he, we were talking about something and I, like, ordered some chicken sandwich for lunch.
And we're all sitting around this fire pit, like eating lunch right here at Tori at the Lodge.
And he, like, I'm eating a shitty fucking lunch, like fucking bacon on it.
It's on some toast and there's butter.
And it's a chicken sandwich, whatever.
And I had two Pepsi's.
And he said something like, wow, a lot of sugar, like under his breath.
And we're talking about, like, what sugars do and salt.
And he's like, he's basically talking like, like talking down.
to me saying salt and sugar makes you expand and he did this with his face dude in his hands on
his neck he went out he goes expand reversal side for you have a fat neck that a fat moon face and this
guy has no idea who we are he didn't even know what barster was he's like oh you guys sell furniture
like he had no clue and he fucking was just telling me like this is why you have a fat face like
what you're eating in front of me right now this one meal is going to set you back a week's worth
of like your body like breaking down these fats and these sugars and these salts.
He's like, he goes, you have, he's like fucking talking down to me.
He's like, do you ever have to pee really bad at night?
I'm like, yeah, sometimes.
Like, I have to fuck go to the bad at me.
He's like, that's your body screaming for help that you've had way too much salt and
way too much sugar, that it just needs to fucking flush stuff out and get more like water
in.
I'm like, bro, I'm going to fucking fight you here.
Like, yeah, I'm getting like a little chubby.
I don't know, like, who are you?
Number one.
And number two, like, why are you telling me all this stuff?
He basically said I was going to have diabetes by the time I was 30.
He said, I'm on the track of diabetes by having two Pepsi.
Was he in shape?
Did he just message you or how did that come about?
He just, he said he had diabetes.
So he like, he knows everything about it.
I don't know.
I'm just, how did that story trigger?
I just like, looked at me and under his breath was like, that's a lot of sugar.
I was like, what do you like, what do you mean?
Is he in shape?
Yeah, kind of.
He's like one of these, like, older San Diego guys that like rides his bike from fucking Palo Alto down to
fucking Blacks Beach fucking San Andrea, whatever.
The Bernardino, man.
The Bullgard, bro.
Like, I don't know what the fuck is guys.
He wears those, like, those like bike outfits.
You know, what he should be wearing, Peter Milar.
There you go.
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I was wearing G4s around and it was more of like the track shoe.
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But the guy's like, oh, do you love those G4s?
Like I just keep seeing them all around.
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But yeah, the Gancis lesson, go check that out.
It might turn your brain into a pretzel.
But a lot of people found it very informative,
which we are, you know, we like to make people laugh.
We like to be entertaining.
We like to get laughed at on the internet a good amount.
So when we can throw something at you,
like the Tommy Fleetwood Bunker video or the George Gankis lesson,
trying to get you a little informative to.
Golf's an extremely unique sport in that pretty much everyone
that's a fan of it plays it.
And when you play it, you want to get better all the time.
Instructional stuff's huge.
We are not necessarily nuts and bold skies when it comes to golf.
So working with people who are and who do it in a compelling way apparently resonate.
So go check that out.
You'll probably learn something.
And it's just entertaining, like Lurch said, to watch how uncomfortable my body looks,
doing things that are supposed to be proper biomechanically.
Okay.
Headlines.
PGA of America announced yesterday, which was Tuesday,
that they will permit and allow distance finding devices,
aka range finders at all of their majors this year.
This has revealed what is the most annoying thing about the golf community,
which is that half the people are like,
hell, great, sensible decision, no problem.
The other half are freaking out, losing their minds.
I keep seeing the line, which makes me want to fucking puke, vomit,
the line that it's going to take out some of the artistry of the game,
which they are referring to walking around a fucking fairway
and stepping off from a sprinkler head that happens we marked,
the yard is directly to the pin.
I'm clearly for this.
I do think it'll speed up play,
also seeing arguments that it'll slow down play,
which I'm ready to refute.
But overall, I think it's just a no-brainer.
Fine.
They use them in practice rounds.
It just is quicker.
It gives you a distance quicker to the pin.
instead of having to do math and all this other shit.
So I think, yep, great.
Allow them.
Let's go.
Yeah, I mean, 100% agree.
I think I'm interested.
I would have said like the knock against it with scores will potentially be lower because like some,
I feel like sometimes the player will say, yeah, the caddy gave me great numbers all day long
and just felt comfortable.
So I feel like it might lower scores in aggregate.
But yeah, the idea of like caddy's walking around 62 paces off the front.
I mean, there's no way to meet it.
slows down play by any means.
And I think it's a no-brainer to add distance range finders.
That was the pace of play thing for me,
because I saw the main argument I saw was about pace of play all day yesterday.
And it's like, do we know?
What evidence do we have either way, I guess?
I don't think it'll slow down play.
I think it'll probably speed up play.
But the main like fury that I saw was like,
this is going to slow down the game like crazy.
When it's like, I don't know, we don't have evidence of that, I don't think.
Well, my thinking on that.
is like so one of the arguments just I was like oh this is going to add a data point to the
calculations and thus slow down play well no it's not they already have that data point the the
distance directly to the pin they already use it just takes them longer to get it they fucking
walk around and then they do calculations from like the middle of the green to their pin sheet
where the pin is in relation do a little bit of adding or subtracting and get to that number now
pull out a range finder zap it boom you have that same data point that they already use it just takes
them longer to get to that point and you can argue that about the top lip of a bunker or a tree in the
distance like instead of pulling out a book and then having to find the t box and then find that little
line then do some math you just zap it right so they're not now like adding all sorts of things that
they want to know the distance to that they previously didn't want to know they still want the same
fucking information they can just get it quicker with a range fighter why do you think they use
them in practice rounds. Why do you think people use range finders and practice rounds? Because it's
slower? No, like, it's just quicker to pull out a fucking rangefinder and zap it. And so I don't think
it's going to make scores lower. I think like they already have the information. Like, we've been playing
this game for 400 something years. You really think that they were just people haven't figured out
how to get really accurate yardages? Like, of course they have. So now you can just get those numbers
quicker. Yeah, to me, it seems like a no-brainer. I can't imagine being on the
of saying it slows it down.
It's the same information that they would be getting or gathering like you're saying
with some sort of process, whether it's they get it the day before,
they walk to a sprinkler head, they see where the pin place in is, lots of stuff.
Now you just shoot and go.
You just know the number.
How could anyone say it that's slower?
It's like what takes longer with you, if you have to do a long division problem,
if you have to write it all out on a piece of paper or you can use a calculator,
which one's going to take longer?
Exactly.
It's just you plug in a couple numbers and you go out on your,
way. That's well said, Trent, actually. That just made a lot of sense to me.
Completely agree. And I think that pretty much sums it up. I think the artistry thing is
crazy. It's like there's no, you know, I saw somebody's like it's going to take out the beauty
of the conversation between player and Ken? No, it isn't. Is that, is that conversation ever?
Hey, man, do you think like 11 minus three is eight or do you think it's seven? Like, that's never the
conversation. The conversation always, okay, here's the number to the pin. Here's the number to the front
edge do you think it's a hard seven or like a soft cut six because this like it's never like a
serious debate about one's mathematical knowledge like it's just that's never the debate that's
never the interesting conversation so you're taking the same information and you're just
allowing them to acquire it quicker do you think slope and elevation will be allowed or no
it wasn't allowed okay but hold on but rigs i'm still saying like the range of miss for a caddy
Like I'm certainly on the side that it's going to make things move way faster.
I also think, I do think, though, that the range of miss with a caddy right now has got to be, I don't know, between two and five yards on any given shot.
And maybe the other five is too much.
But like, I do think there is definitely a range of miss that the caddy has when they're thinking through numbers of where they are on the course.
Certainly when they spray it left or right.
And then they're trying to triangulate, you know, from the center of the fairway to the.
the green and I think a range finder's only going to help. I mean, when you talk about like the
next shot in what that number is, maybe they can be more dialed into the pin rather than playing
to the center of green and two putting. Like I think there's definitely a side of that, which I feel like
you don't. I feel like that you're thinking that they have that number pretty dialed in. And I think
you think the range of miss is much less than what I think. Yeah, I think it's negligible. I think like
if there is a small number that there's a difference in accuracy, that it's negligible and won't in any
in any discernible way, be reflected in the numbers.
I don't think, like, there's no way to me that, like,
Joey La Cava isn't as accurate out there as a fucking range final.
Like, I think he's pretty fucking accurate.
That would be an amazing piece of content.
Just to, I want to see.
Like, if we drop Joey La Cava on Pebble,
and we put him in the rough,
and he's already done his numbers,
and the pins in the back right,
how dialed in is he?
But here's what you have to understand.
When somebody misses a fairway or sprays one way left or Ray
light,
shots aren't dialed into yardage accuracy anyways. Like if you give tiger 117 from the middle
of fairway with a perfect lie, yes, that accuracy is going to be discernible from the results.
If Tiger's behind a fucking tree, 192 or 186 yards out in the rough, those four or five yards
don't matter. Like he's trying to hit some low thing that lands in the front edge and like hopefully
dribbles out. So I think like in terms of where you would really see a difference in the accuracy, if the
caddy was off by two or three yards won't actually reflect in the numbers because on those
shots, that information from a sprinkler head to the front is so dialed in for the caddy and
the player can be so dialed in. And the further away you get from that, the higher dispersion
the player is going to have in his accuracy anyways. That's fair. That's fair. Yeah, I'm,
I'm interested. I mean, anyways, we'll find out. I certainly think it's the right move. Like,
yeah, it just helps everything. And yeah, the days of, like, I don't know, people.
walk in 100 to 150 yards like up there and then coming back or just gone.
And the trend's point is like, yeah, we have calculators.
Like we don't need to do long division anymore.
Like, let's just get past it.
It's another example of golf very slowly coming into like 21st century and they're just
going to start using more stuff that other sports and leagues have like really just
jumped in deep end with like baseball.
Everyone misses the fucking bang bang play at first base.
So we just have replays now and everything can be challenged.
We can use all the technology.
like yeah like there's some sort of sweet fucking history and feeling about having this stuff
but if we have the fucking if we have the technology we have these things that can shoot laser
beams at let's just use them right like it's fucking really cool technology these guys use them
literally on Wednesday and you're not allowed to use them on Thursday crazy to fucking do it
I don't really care I'm not getting work it up about it it is funny watching news like
this breaking the golf world because you'll see it you'll when they when people quote tweet the news
you obviously see their reaction first before you see the bit of news.
And you would have thought yesterday that like reading there was like crazy.
Like we're changing everything about the entire sport.
Everything's going to be different from here on now.
And then you go down and they're like a PJ of America is going to let them use rangefinders.
You're like, okay, that's fine.
Like if rangefinders were just brand new on the scene and it was like 1990 and they were like,
yep, put them in play, then I could see it being a bigger conversation.
but like range finders everyone's been using range finders now for dozens of years like there's so it doesn't it's it's not like it's some new crazy unknown that's going to wildly change the game and then another really interesting dynamic is the caddy part and like on on one end you could argue well now a caddy who's really good with yardage is going to be less valuable because you're just leveling the playing field but the other side of that which i would probably be on which is like
well, who wins a tournament shouldn't be more about the accuracy of a caddy.
It should be more about like the accuracy and execution of the player.
So like it should it you shouldn't right.
Like if there's a if there's a really young professional who Monday qualifies into a tournament,
he doesn't have any money.
Therefore he can't afford one of the best caddies.
But he playing well and he gets down the stretch on Sunday and he's going up against
the guy who's made 20 million who can't afford the best caddy.
Like, that guy should really be at a disadvantage because the other guy has someone that's able and more experience.
Has, like, how much should a caddy play into the actual results of a tournament?
Not to, like, diminish caddies, but it's an interesting element to discuss.
And I saw JT.
Just Thomas tweeted earlier today or yesterday, clearly saying that, like, defending caddies, that, like, ultimately, no, I think caddies should be really important.
So I think that leads to an interesting discussion.
Yeah, I mean, I think certainly like, you know, I think they get comp like 10% of winnings.
I think like if they're 10% of the outcome, I think that's pretty fair.
And certainly paying for like a Stevie Williams or one of those individuals that does the work and knows distances and is highly recommended with green readings and just his thought process of navigating a golf course.
Like I don't want to discredit that at all.
Like I love the idea of them being a team.
Like golf is a very singular sport.
Like John Rom needs a caddy and he needs a caddy to diffuse situations.
And like I think there's value to them.
And there's strengths and weaknesses to everybody and some caddies need to be stronger in some areas.
Like John Rom's might need to be a bomb diffuser.
And, you know, somebody else's might need to just like tell them a distance and that's all they care about.
So it is an interesting point.
And yeah, knocks a little bit of the distance.
But it's also, it's just the right move.
I mean, if we're talking like distances too green, like either.
doing it one way or another and if the biggest knock on golf is pace of play and it just takes
too long for them to get around and this speeds it up by even you know a minute or if you're going
to say like three seconds a shot well that's just worth it it's just the right avenue to go yeah the 10
percent part's a good point where like if that's what they've been valued at then then yeah that's
that's a huge part of the outcome and therefore having a really good one versus a average one or a
shitty caddy probably should affect play because the market has determined that they're worth
around 10%. So that's actually a very good point, which I'm surprised by because, you know,
here comes some.
You don't have that.
I mean, just kidding.
Kidding, just kidding.
So yeah, it'll be fun to watch.
It'll be fun to watch and see if the PGA tour or USGA also adopt it or if there's just one
tournament a year where the guys can, guys and girls can use range finders.
so we'll see how things man asked.
Seth Wah being a fucking,
he's just a normal, regular dude
that just knows how to get things done.
Not saying the other people,
like our friends over at the USAJ,
don't know how to get it done,
but Seth Waw just knows what's going on, man.
That guy's been all in all sorts of different environments
and fields and all this stuff.
He's just like, let's let these guys use some fucking range finers, right?
Like, he just gets it.
And it's, and I think we're all pretty much like,
yep, no brainer, let's move on.
In terms of the range fighter,
I don't see a reason for people to be complaining and arguing or whatever.
But we'll see.
We'll see what the data provides in terms of pace of play and scores and all of that.
Dustin Johnson.
So DJ won in Saudi Arabia this past week.
And then he's on to Pebble, except he withdrew.
So he's got a long history at Pebble.
He's played there a ton.
You know, he's won there.
He almost won the U.S. Open there when he had the triple that he made in the second hole.
very clear to most people that are like going from Saudi Arabia to Pebble Beach, California, jet lag, kind of ruins your whole week and he's supposed to go play in a golf tournament.
So he just stopped by Florida on his way and was like, nope, I'm just going to stay here with Drew.
Pretty obvious.
Makes millions of dollars to go play in Saudi Arabia.
However, with a lot of the, and I don't want to turn this into a full geopolitical show, but with a lot of the PR around the Saudi Arabian thing.
and then it clearly affecting the strength of field at the PGA tour event,
this has got some people talking that they're not particularly happy about this.
Dustin Johnson, he's just like, I won.
I don't want to play right now.
That's the vibe I got.
I get the jet lag, and that is probably a motherfucker of a trip
to then go play golf for another weekend.
But, I mean, the field this weekend is weak.
There's no top 10 players at all.
Like the favorite to win right now is Patrick Cantlin.
Like, no offense, Patrick Cantlay.
He's a phenomenal player.
But for that to be like the number one guy spearheading your tournament as the betting odds favorite, it's just, it's just not great.
And I love this weekend.
I think everybody does.
The views at Pebble are immaculate as ever.
But it's just going to be strange with such a weak feel.
I mean, it's interesting to knock fields coming from the John Deere and whatnot.
But, yeah, Cantley's 11.
I would say he's not really a needle mover.
but we do the best we can we do the best we can at the john dear classic
the views are just like pebble it's very i love it one thing i love about the john dear classic
is especially their twitter account they have their guys right so like when stricter was playing
well this past weekend the john dear classic twitter handle is alive and buzzing and they just
own their guys and i respect the hell out of that 100 it is they they've got some camaraderie around
their guys. Like if you're one of their guys certainly
to be like anybody who's done well
there, they're promoting the hell out of
and they're grabbing an ankle
trying to pull them back for next year because I
will say one of the things about the John Deere
feels like if you win, you're not
coming back. Dude, if speed
It's a launching pad, dude.
I'll say that if Spieth or Stricker
or Zach Johnson are ever down
in the dumps, just go hang out in fucking
wherever bum fuck that tournament is
and they're going to be a king in that whole
Count.
Quad?
It's Silvas, Illinois.
It's the Quad Cities.
It's actually, it's a little
unfortunate that Speed is playing so well
because he could use the tune-up
at the John Deer Classic if he wanted to.
If he, I'm telling you, but here's the thing.
Is Speed ever goes back to the John Deer Classic?
I mean, it'll be
phenomenal. He'll probably win it
because the field is never that great.
He should. If he really wants to make this
comeback complete, if he wants to get a win under his
belt, go to the John Deer Classic. That's a no-brainer.
I'll say, if he went back
there though and he he runs the risk of if you go playing the john near classic and you miss the cut
don't they like take your tour card you're just not allowed to play for the rest of the year
that's not true no that's that's those accusations are not true you're just kicked off the
door isn't it amazing how poor that that tournament is ran that's someone like tony fienow that
just can't get a win under his belt he's been fucking grinding out here just doesn't go
join that tournament and just like dominate it and get a win like like you're saying like
speed should just go there just get a win it's just a free win i'm not
denying any of that.
Yeah, no, I mean,
Trent's, I just ended up
the idea of Tony Fienau at John Deere
in the Quad Cities.
If I'm the John Deere, that is
100% the selling point
for the biggest of the stars.
We just need one.
And if you go to Tony Fee now and say,
hey, man, you keep finishing second.
It's a little awkward now.
You're trying to get a win,
and it's just not happening.
Why don't you come to sell this?
We'll put you up in a nice, you know,
holiday in, and we'll get you a win.
And then if the thing's broken
and the floodgates open.
Might as well join a member guest.
It's like fucking, I mean,
he's not fucking going to the Quad Cities.
With Dustin Johnson, I just want to, like, that fucking Saudi money speaks to people, man.
And like, that's a lot of money to go over there and fucking win a golf tournament.
And I know that people get mad about fields and, you know, the courses and the tournaments and the sponsors and the fans and everyone wants to see the best fields.
But, I mean, you see this in every sport.
If LeBron James is coming to the Charlotte Hornets, everyone's like, holy fuck, we're going to spend $1,000 on this Lakers game.
and then he just sits.
Everyone goes fucking crazy.
But, like, it's just the way the world works.
Like, this guy's fucking grinding all around the, like the world, the continents.
He's going from fucking Saudi Arabia to the Pebble Beach.
If the money speaks to these guys, they're always going to take it.
That's just how the world works.
That's how sports work.
And he saw the money.
He fucking won the golf tournament.
He made a shit ton of money.
And, you know, that's just what it is.
And it sucks for people in that at Pebble, but it's always going to happen.
And people are always going to get mad about the same shit.
They never see these guys as human beings ever.
No. Do they publicize the Saudi Arabia appearance fees?
I think that the report was, I'm not sure if this is publicized or guest or leaked,
but I want to say DJ got paid like a $3 million appearance fee.
Then he wins the tournament, so he gets another, what, million or so.
So he's making four-ish million dollars based on the stuff that we're just to go play in Saudi Arabia.
Well, I mean, he won, but to go over there and play.
So on a human level, and they've, you know, a few of the players,
spoken out about this. And yes, Saudi Arabia has a horrible history of what goes on there and the way
that they treat women and the latest with the journalist a few years ago who was assassinating.
Like that's not horrible. But they've all said, we're not politicians. Like I'm a, I'm a golfer.
So if someone creates a golf tournament, they're going to pay me money, which, by the way, the way we keep score in
society is money. That's literally like what we do. That's how you buy houses. That's how you pay for your
kids. That's how you do everything. If they're going to like pay me money to go play in a golf tournament,
which is my profession, I'm going to go there.
do it. And like a lot of these people, you know, like that people that are complaining or upset about it,
if you're a sales guy and your company's like, hey, we got this really interested client from like Saudi
Arabia. You just got to go over there for a week and take this meeting and you're going to make 500
grand a commission. Who the fuck do you think's not taking that? Because what they read in the Wall Street
Journal wasn't favorable. Like you're on some level, sure, certain people might. But overall,
the vast majority of people are going to do that.
And ultimately, that's not their job to make political statements, to be role models.
We've seen people like their job on a level is to go play golf and make money doing it.
And so you can't, yes, you can say that maybe you wouldn't do it that way or you have a different set of criteria that you would base your decision.
But to like viciously criticize others for something that, again, is not what their performance.
or even personally expected to do, which is to like make these political statements or judgments,
they're just doing their profession, making their decisions, making their schedules and trying to make
money playing golf, which is their job. How can you knock somebody for that?
Especially when their peers are joining these tournaments and there and there is a tournament for
him to join that he is a part of. It's like his establishment is allowing him to go there.
It's not like he fucking made this thing up himself or all these like they're like,
there's this tournament, we're going to pay money,
and if you guys want to come play, you can play.
Yeah, I don't see the backlash on that stuff.
And also the other thing on a human level,
where for him not playing in Pebble,
I mean, Robbie Fox went to Saudi Arabia, right?
Is that where he went for the MMA?
He went to Dubai, I believe.
Wasn't that Dubai?
Dubai.
Is Trent looking right through us?
I wish I just don't know where Abu Dhabi is.
I have no idea.
Abu Dhabi.
So Abu Dhabi and Dubai are part of the UAE,
which is much,
friendlier and more progressive version of the Middle East.
They're still not flawless.
They're like overall treatment of women and everything.
It's not like flawless.
But they are like Dubai as a city is essentially like a conservative European city.
It's like you know, you got a ton of stuff going on there.
Whereas Saudi Arabia is about as like conservative for that religion and
old school and also like corrupt in terms of like Saudi kings.
running the show as you could possibly be.
Gotcha.
I was going to talk about the jet lag, like from coming over there.
Like, Robbie Fox, Robbie Fox said that, yeah, when I brought that up, I didn't get into Saudi
Kings and all the time.
But it's a good point to make, you have to make the connection because there is a huge
difference.
And I would just say, like, people that come from over, come over there, and we experience
that with Australia.
Like, you don't get back to normal for a week, a legitimate week.
So for him,
I'm not there and compete and all this stuff.
I mean, this guy may just want to just fucking lay down on a beach somewhere
and just not give a fuck about the world while he sleeps all day.
Yeah, but the other side is like there might be like mattresses and masseuses the way they travel.
It's not like they're sitting upright for.
That changes anything.
I don't know if the actual travel changes.
Like, I think it's like, I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.
It'll be interesting.
Like if that helps at all.
Like if there is any science or whatever behind that because I hear you.
Like if you're, if you stay on like a certain hours of living, like if he stayed on Eastern
standard time, which would be probably physically impossible during the time, then like no,
but I feel like it's got to help a little bit.
I mean, have you ever flown first class?
Have you ever done that?
No.
No.
Dude, I did it one time from San Francisco to New York.
And I will say that experience of like pretty much lying flat down is, is a real game changer.
Big man's just looking to lay down.
I mean, it was incredible.
Incredible.
They go over to fucking, like, his family's place and, and they're flying across
the globe, they're just in a bedroom in that video.
And that movie, that, that looks nice.
I can get behind that where you just have a full bed, you have a TV, you have a closet,
like that.
Yeah, that makes a difference.
Like, you can't tell me that doesn't make a difference with jetline.
Yeah, but flying 18 hours, like, I don't, I don't know, 18 hours is going to mess you up
no matter what. And you don't have that much time.
Like by the time he would get there, you know, it would be what, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and he's all messed up. And then he's got to go play a golf tournament.
Like it's so emotionally and like mentally draining to play a golf.
So, so I don't know. I was, I spoke to a guy.
When we landed in Australia, if we had to do any, we played golf.
But imagine we had to do anything of competition or like where our, our reputation was
at stake where people were watching us do something.
Imagine that feeling when we got off that plane.
going in front of human beings
and having to perform anything,
podcast, anything.
We wouldn't have been able to do it.
I mean, sitting on the green after the round
when we were talking about,
like the last 48 hours,
call it of our life,
was maybe the most tired I've ever been.
Like, that was the last couple holes,
like the match was over,
we were all exhausted.
That was maybe the most tired that I've ever been.
And so to think that he would have to do that
and then continue to do that for the next three days
and do something elite
is yeah that's that's a lot to ask yeah i was um i was speaking with the guy who's an agent for
um some some golfers who were lesser than DJ's status but he was making the point that's
everybody yeah it's everybody in the world for for more of an average golfer who gets asked
to go play in this audio event and that their appearance fee isn't three million but it might be a couple
hundred thousand or several hundred thousand that their consideration for that they like while that's
definitely more than they would make in an average week playing on the pGA tour that they have to factor
in he said like around three weeks it's like actually a three week commitment he said because like
on the front end like traveling there playing in the tournament then returning with jet lag and all
that takes up like two and a two and a half to three weeks of like a pGA tour so he's like
even though you might make four or 500k just for going over there,
that they calculated out over two or three PJ tour events
and are you definitely guaranteed to now make more
and was it worth it to travel all the way over there?
Now, in DJ's case, like $3 million,
and the appearance fee is a little crazy,
but those calculations are interesting.
He could, DJ could now take the rest of the year off
and he'd be okay from a money standpoint in terms of earnings.
If that appearance fee that he talked about is real,
which I believe that it probably is,
like he's I really think a big part of it he's like I want like okay if he finishes in second or third
or fourth in Saudi Arabia is he playing this week at pebble I don't think money's like a factor to him
anymore no I think it's so I think they probably project their seasons and where they want to be
at the end of a season I know like some of the guys we know have done that doesn't like kids have
like a goal of what he wants to achieve where it comes to money and paying his guys and stuff
so I feel like if you if you make four million in one week I think that over
opens up some weeks and weekends for you.
Like,
their projections are like,
all right,
we can take this one off,
actually,
because we were planning to make
800K this week
with a top 25 finish or whatever.
We just made 4 mil in fucking Saudi Arabia.
Let's hit the beach,
Paulina.
I don't know.
I sort of agree with you,
Lurch,
that money doesn't matter to Dustin.
But it also,
I think it matters,
I think it matters,
I think it's everything to everybody.
Like,
like, like,
like,
like,
like,
Dustin, I mean, he could put the clubs away now and be good for the rest of his life,
but I still think everybody wants more always.
Yeah, I agree with that.
And at this point, he's thinking about probably his kids and, you know,
how he can help his family and others because obviously he's got enough
discretional income to do whatever the hell he pleases for the rest of his day.
So I don't, maybe for him it doesn't factor in as much.
But maybe it does.
I, you know, obviously genuinely don't know.
Riggs, you know, and Kisner shared this.
do the checks hit their accounts?
Wad Wednesday, baby.
Wad Wednesday.
God, that is...
Today.
Today, they're getting DJ.
In his account this morning, four mil.
Dustin's drinking a peanut colotte on a beach of Florida.
He's like, oh, shit.
We just made four million bucks.
And you think I'm flying across the country to play pebble?
No, I'm just not going.
Although I would imagine that appearance fee hits the bank count a little bit earlier.
If I want, I want like half up front.
True.
Yeah, I think that's probably right.
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That's really cool.
That's really cool.
So like when you talk like, you know, to gain empathy, you know, like maybe we lose it.
Somebody's got Alzheimer's.
Well, how do you deal with that individual?
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I mean, these things are great.
This is when Dave Portnoy on Dave Portnoy's show spoke about Taser for a few weeks before ever actually getting his.
And then when he finally got his, I think he said the word sick, like 30 times.
You just said, this is sick.
This thing is sick.
So it's cool.
I've got one.
They're really, really cool.
And they work.
Like, you can legitimately repel an attacker.
And at some point, I'm going to make a claim.
At some point, a member of this show will get tasered.
I don't know who or win or where or why.
But before we're done here with our little circus, someone's going to get tated.
Got to be someone with a little more juice on their bones.
Because if you tase me, my heart's stopping.
Well, you'll be fine.
I've offered up to Josh, if there is a taser on a drone, I will be tased by that drone.
And now the only person that won't be able to release the taser is Frankie.
I think anybody else besides you.
I have a heart condition.
Shout out to SVT gang.
Sorry, I can't do it.
I'm out.
I had a heart condition when I was a kid.
Yeah, fucking pumping all that blood around that body.
Boom.
Backland.
Growing big and large.
Not unique and pathetic.
I've like read a lot into, not a lot actually.
I really haven't read that much into it.
I've seen a couple articles about like how fucking efficient these pro athletes hearts are and how like their HRV.
Like when you talk about whoop, they're HRV and the amount that their their heart beats compared to ours.
Like you would think in a common just like regular brain, you would think that a more healthy person's heart would be more like because it's healthier.
But theirs beats less because it's stronger and it shoots more blood at a at a stronger rate.
To me, that's like, like my heart rate when I, like, am sick or something goes so fucking high.
And like, I've sent it to guys like NHL players and they're like, dude, like my heart rate, like when I'm just sitting around is like 50 to 60 less beats per minute than you.
Like that's, it's not even close.
Like I'm, they're machines.
Yeah, that's what I think is so cool when they're resting.
Like their heart is like so strong and just like pumping blood around their body that it doesn't have to do much.
exactly. It's like relaxed.
Where ours, like, I'm still
stuffed with donuts. Like I, like,
my body's trying to push blood around
and trying to stuff out of the way.
Ars is like,
it's like, I'm tired and I'm done.
Like, and there's, like, and there's.
I think we've talked about it before,
but Lance Armstrong at his peak was
like 12 beats per minute
where it's just like crazy.
Dude!
Yo, speaking of,
speaking of tasers, I want to tell a really quick
story about my experience yesterday at Tori. I would have liked to have a taser yesterday. I didn't
need it, luckily. But anyway, I'm at Tori Pines. We're filming for behind the greens. We're getting
some fucking fantastic shit out here. And, you know, it's kind of like, I don't know, it's,
San Diego has its own weather system in which, like, it's kind of cloudy. And then, like,
you look at this, you look at the weather app and you're like, oh, fuck, it's going to be a shitty day
in that at 3 o'clock. It's just perfect. And it's the most beautiful sunset of all time. It's kind of like
how Florida, it always rains every day and then stops. Like, I feel like this is the common San Diego
this time of year and it's like the same thing every day. So yesterday we were doing that. It was
super cloudy. He didn't know what to do. All of a sudden the fucking sun came out. It was hot. It was
beautiful orange sun is coming down and whatever. And I throw this drone up and it's the perfect
lighting where the, where the trees are like black because it's getting like exposed. You're
basically focusing on the sunset. So everything in front of it is like,
silhouette right and i'm with fucking ebug i'm like bro we have like i'm flying this drone like and it's
actually riggs's drone that he broke in tommy fleetwood video we got it back riggs sent it to me
because my drone broke when we were filming something at national golf links the whole thing that's another
that's another story but i'm paying attention to this drone and i'm like ibo we got the shot
like this is it i can picture it being the opening shot of behind the green it's going around this
tree, the sunset's coming at me. And all of a sudden, I just, it's in a fucking tree. Like another
tree that we just didn't see. And I'm like, no way. No way. No way is this happening to me right now.
It's going around like a fucking pinball comes down, lands on the grass. I'm like, no way.
Dude, these sensors didn't go off. I'm like, what is happening to this drone that like,
it doesn't alert you that something's coming up? So we go over there and everything was structurally
perfect. Nothing happened to the drone. It was like, I was like, fine. The only thing that we
realized as we started flying, it was like this wing or this leg or all.
arm, a lurch, what do you call, like, is it a leg?
Is it, like, the thing that just, like, has the propellers on it?
Probably an arm.
The wing of it?
Yeah, arm.
I guess, yeah.
Well, you wouldn't say a bird has arms.
No, it's got to be a wing.
It's got to be a wing, probably.
Yeah, that back, right wing.
Anyway, it was just a little loose, and I'm, like, trying to figure out, like, so, like, as I flew it,
it would hit, like, the battery pack.
Like, it just wasn't in its right spot.
So something got loose in there.
I'm like, fuck, man.
I got three days here at Torrey Pines.
I'm the worst of this shit.
Like, people don't know this.
behind the scenes. I've been losing footage and
killing drones. I've been on
such a bad streak with this shit
and it's amazing, knock on wood, that
I've never really fucked up anything for Dave Portnoy,
ever, like, ever. Like, never once has like a video
died or I've lost a file,
knock on fucking wood, I'm going to keep knocking on wood.
But for myself,
I've been a nightmare. We went
to Cherry Valley. We filmed in two-degree
weather as they resculpted
a par-five,
and I lost all the footage. I lost
all the footage after it as this guy was
excavating a part five because I went to go take the fucking thing out with frozen fingers and
the and the mini SD cards snapped in half. That was a nightmare. We went to national golf links,
film these guys fucking shoveling out one of the biggest snowstorms they've had in recent years
around the fucking windmill, all this stuff. We're doing it for a winter series. We're going to end up
putting that out. But I flew a drone into the side of a fucking building because the wind knocked it in.
And so I've just spent out such a bit. So now I do this at Tori, I'm like, I'm like,
Brendan, I'm just going to jump off the, like, I don't know what to do anymore. I, I'm a, I'm a nuisance
the world and this podcast and the content that we're trying to create, I can't get it done.
This is three videos in a row that I've just broken.
So anyway, I go online.
There's just like, there's like easy drone repair.com or something like that.
And I call this guy and he's a fucking dick to me.
Like he was a fucking, he was just like, yeah, I don't know who you think you are that you can
just drop a drone off and get it fixed.
Like, there's like a hundred drones here.
Like, I was like, okay, I don't know.
I just like don't know anything about fixing drones.
So see you later.
Like I just called you.
Your fucking website is called like,
You need to record these calls.
When you have a call with someone like that, you've got to record them.
Yeah, that'd be a good highlight, too.
It was fucking insanity the way he was talking to me.
I'm like, I don't know, man.
I'm just like asking questions.
Like, do you not help people on the phone?
Like, that don't know really what you know.
I need to hear it.
Can we get him on the show?
I want to hear his side of the story.
He was just a fucking dick.
No, that guy's gone, right?
Now I give up.
I'm like, this thing's loose.
This wing's loose.
I'm going home.
I'm booking a flight tomorrow.
I don't even want to be here because I don't want to see that sunset tomorrow and not be
able to drone it.
gone. I go on the website one more time, another website. And there's this guy named Han. It's called
Repairadron.com. And I got to give this guy a shout out because he has these three locations and
they had no location. It just said San Diego. It said Orange County and something else. And no building.
So he emails me because I put it, I put a request in. And he's like, if you want to drive that
drone up to Orange County, like it takes two hours, like to my house. Like I will, I will fix that
drone for you tonight. And I was like, this is weird. Like, this is where the taser thing comes in.
I'm like, I don't know what to do here. So me and Ebug had no other option. I'm like, we're doing
it, bro. It was like 8.30 at night. We're going to get there by like 10 or whatever it was. I don't know.
And we're just like, we pull up to this dude's house and he's just the nicest person in the
fucking universe. He's like, he has a little sign outside that he put out to let us know that
that's his like business. It was called like we're apparently so that when we pulled up to his house
would be there. He fucking, we go to a Taco Bell, we're eating Taco Bell like 10, 30, 11 o'clock.
And me and E. Bug, we're waiting for him. He calls me like an hour later. He goes,
great news. Fixed your drone. Meet me in this parking lot. Now, this is another thing where I'm like,
okay, I got, we just went to your house. Why do I have to meet you in a parking lot? He wanted to teach me
how to like fly the drone and shoot and raw. So this guy, Han is the ultimate. If you're in the
San Diego area or Orange County area and you have a drone problem, go to this guy, repairadron.com.
Tell him that Frankie and Barr still sent you, because he didn't.
didn't know what this world was. Turns out he went to college with ebubb. Really weird fucking what a
night I had last night. But I just wanted to give this guy a shout out. He was like super stunned that like,
we even have that drunk because he's like, you don't know anything about this thing, do you? Like he doesn't
understand if you have a license, you know, blah, blah, blah. He's like, where do you shoot? Do you shoot
in log? Do you shoot raw? I'm like, bro, hon. Let me tell you something, bro. I've broken three of these
fucking things. I don't even know how to press record half the time. Like, but we get hundreds of thousands of
views on YouTube. He's like, no way. I'm like, look at our YouTube day. No way. He's like,
dude, I know how to fly drones better than anyone in the world. I can't get more than two views
on like my videos on my Instagram. I'm like, Han, fucking repair a drone, fucking whatever
sensor fly repairs is Instagram. Shout out to that guy who saved behind the green. I will put a
thank you to him in the credits. If you had told me, I got a coworker that lives in San Diego that
has a drone. Okay. Okay. We'll see like that. Me and you just don't communicate in like a human
If we had a better relationship, maybe that way.
Yeah, exactly. That's too bad.
I agree with that.
You should work on.
California is one fucking sick place.
Like, driving through those hills and those mountains at night,
you feel like you're going to fall off like a clip.
I don't know how people live up there.
California's sweet.
There's no doubt about it.
I'm glad that story has a happy ending because when it starts off with,
I needed my drone fix.
So I went to repairadrone.com.
And that's how I found how I was getting my drone fix.
that ends with you in a room covered in plastic with a gun to your head.
He sent me the address to just a house,
and it was in like the place where there's really no lights.
Like it's like a fucking like hills.
And we were looking at the GPS and it's just like,
I'm like, oh, maybe it's like Laguna Beach or something.
And it was just in the hills.
I'm like, boy, oh boy, this guy's going to, I'm going to,
he's going to open up the door and he's going to be wearing latex.
Yes.
And he's just to have a pistol with a silencer on it, just facing me, being like.
He's going to, it's like, yeah, you just explained Mark Wahlberg at the end of
departed.
right that's right yeah i end up in a fucking a well and he says the girl puts lotion on or something
with the fucking now that's now that's buffalo buffalo bill yeah buffalo is it buffalo bill
anyway behind the green's gonna be really cool frank sounds like it's gonna be great i'm driving out
here for you guys to fucking watch this video so shout out han shout out hon also shout out to
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I have breaking news in the New York world.
And I don't know how real this is,
but Governor Cuomo just said that the sports and concert venue
arenas in New York State can reopen on February 23rd.
10% capacity,
you need to show up a negative test prior.
I don't know how that's going to work.
But holy shit, if I'm going to an islander game
at the end of this fucking month at the Nassau Calcium,
I am going to drip ejaculate all over this floor.
Wow.
That's exciting.
That's just light at the end of the tunnel.
I mean, regardless, that's fantastic.
1,300 fans, 1,500 fans, but whatever.
Anything, dude.
People just need to get out.
I saw recently that I think we crossed a threshold of more people
have gotten vaccinated than have gotten the virus.
That's huge.
Yeah, numbers are first starting to go in the right direction.
I think that was like a week or two weeks ago they announced that, which is amazing.
So look, we're just trying to bring a little positivity right now.
We got fucking Han fixing drones.
We got, you know, good news.
Things are starting to open up a little bit in New York.
Numbers are starting to look a little bit better.
Still be smart.
Be safe.
Wear a mask.
But things are starting to look better.
So that's fantastic.
Okay.
From the gallery, 4Play at barstlesports.com.
Send us an email.
We've been reading from the galleries for four fucking years, Trent and myself.
I've been going through these things.
And you guys keep sending good ones.
I'm going to start with Dave from Australia, who has a funny little story that resonates
with all of us.
He said, Frankie, I had a handicapped police moment today at New South, or no, NSW is what,
that New South Wales, I think, or New South Wales sounds right, because I put that as one of
the society events in 2K recently, actually.
It's like supposed to be one of the best golf courses in Australia.
I think it's like the Sydney area, so I could be butchering that.
in SW is where he put in Sydney and had a one,
I shot 105 and my handicap is a one.
I think I lost 20 balls over 36 holes.
All I could think of all day was my playing partners are thinking to themselves.
No way this guy's a one handicap exactly like people do to you guys on the internet.
So thank you very much for all you guys do.
We're huge fans of you guys down here in Australia.
Now, Dave,
I just wanted to put this in there because we have all fucking been there.
And every person that plays golf at any level,
understands that you can be really solid one day
and you can be horrible the next day.
And yes,
it is extremely frustrating.
When you know you could play golf at a certain level,
yet you go out and you're playing horrible
and people don't know your game at all
and you want to scream to them,
I swear I can be better.
I know I can play better to the point where
Jordan fucking speed this past weekend
shoots 10 under 61 on Saturday
and then posts a one over 72 on Sunday.
Like that man who was one,
three majors and like 13 times the PGA tour can have an 11 stroke difference day to day.
You don't think the average golfer could have a 20, 30 stroke different day today.
Of course you can.
So I'm happy that Dave revealed he had a handicapped police feeling.
Hate the handicapped police.
The only police I don't respect.
I mean, they're just a joke, you know?
It's they don't understand the system, which I admittedly didn't understand the system in the beginning as well.
I always thought like if you were a non-handicap, you shot an 81, 80.
And like when people would say that, it'd be like, well, that guy.
Like that guy's just lying.
Like he's trying to gain strokes on us, blah, blah, blah, and stuff like that.
But for me, I was a 9.7 this year or something like that,
or even like a closer to a 10 towards the end of the year.
And my scoring average was like an 88 or 87.
That's like my average.
So I had 95s.
I had 83s.
I just the fucking way this fucking thing works.
I don't know what else to tell you guys.
Yeah, I have a lot of bad rounds on camera.
But I also play so many weekends and weekdays, whatever.
Every Monday with my dad, I shoot out, I shoot at 84, 83.
I hate the fucking handicapped, please.
Why would I lie about my handicap and make it like,
they say that I should have it be a 15,
but I, like, that means that I would be getting more strokes
and winning more matches and stuff like,
like, why would I lie the other way?
Why would I go lower?
Why would it reverse sandbag?
Yeah, that makes no sense.
It is weird, though, that feeling that comes over you,
because, like, I think everybody in this room has been there
where, like, you're, oh, what's your handicap?
And then you're just playing really bad.
bad that day. And then you like feel you have this weird feeling where you're like, shit,
like I should be better than this, but I'm just not going to be any better than this today.
And it is, it's weird that that comes over you, but it certainly comes over me.
And it's like a weird kind of helpless fee.
I don't know. I can't really describe it.
It's, it's a very, um, exposed.
You feel almost like you're being exposed, but like you, you feel like everyone else thinks
you're a liar in the group, but you're not.
You're like, no.
like I'm sorry that I'm not currently living up to the number I told you but I can't like my I can't I have before on other occasions I'm just not right now I agree with that yeah you feel exposed and almost like they think you lied to them and it's a weird it's a shit it's a very like it's not a great feeling and it's weird that it comes over you because like everybody's felt yeah I was getting it a lot with the gangis video because the beginning he's like all right tell me about your game your head and it's like you know I'm a five and here's
how I play the game usually and he's like okay and then I just immediately everybody's like
how about rig says he's a five it's like no I don't say anything I actually plug numbers into an app
and then the app says what I am I don't say anything so and to your point frankly my my average
score last year was an 82 and I came in as like a five handicap people were doing their math like
that doesn't make no actually if you know the system it does and we're not trying to say that in a
duchy like oh you don't know the system like we didn't know the fucking system until we started
using it and then now we're just looking at it i still don't really know the system i just i just
listen to it and i go by what you're supposed to do with the double bogies and all this like i just
i figure out how to plug in the system and i figure it out and i it tells me a number i only
playing with buddies who refused dude i was with you guys not having a handicap i had like the
grint or some stupid shit it wasn't even real and you guys are like you need a handicap like
you just need to know what your number is yeah you just got it the usg you just got to get back
like the jim it's the only way to do it really
quickly on the average score, though, because you set a goal this year to be sub 80.
And I saw one story that you had like an average of like a 77 and something really impressive.
And I didn't know if that's still being held up.
It's not that low, but I have, this is the best golf I've ever played my entire life right now.
And so my average, no, my average right now is an 80.4.
No, no, I'm sorry.
that's incorrect because I don't have it selected on 2021 scores.
Oh, 79.6 is my current out.
That's great, dude.
Dude, I'm playing the best.
Look how fucking low my handicap is right now.
I'm at a 4.2.
Wow.
That's great, man.
Good for you.
But I've just been playing really well.
I put this on my story.
I shot a bogey or a birdie list 75 the other day.
So that's like just, I mean, you're just playing pretty good golf at that point.
And that's on that talent course.
that we played the page on them against where it's like a hard driving hole.
And I just had the SIM two going that day.
So like it just makes golf way easier when you hit it relatively long for you and straight.
Now I still like the other day I went out and I probably shot like an 84,
but all my rounds before then were were solid.
So it's like I'm feeling I feel like I'm playing the best golf lurch since our like those
three or four years after college when we were up at Granite links all the time and I would
go hit balls under the lights.
That was probably the best golf I ever played.
And now I feel like I'm playing pretty fucking well right now.
Yeah, I mean, I saw that and I was like, damn, even if you have a couple scores in
2021, if you, anytime your average is in the 70s, you're, I would say an elite golf.
Like that is elite.
I just looked at mine, my average is, I'm just about an 81.
I'm a little under an 81.
I'm an 80 point.
But like, I think that's amazing.
To be in the 70s, that's, I loved that goal.
when you said it a couple of, I don't know, that could have been a year ago.
That could have been whenever, honestly.
But that's, I, you know, I give you a plug for that.
I appreciate that.
It's very weird that you guys are clapping for me because usually we just roast each other on
the show.
But I had a very funny, like, juxtaposition between the internet and the handicapped
police and real life the other day where I, so I played with the golf rabble guy.
I don't know if you guys follow him on Instagram, but he's a huge golf nut.
He's got like 100,000 followers.
I think they're from Utah.
all. They were out here during waste management week, and they asked me to play around with him and a
couple of buddies. Very, very, very nice crew. And I played nine holes with him. And I was like,
right before I met up with them, I'm scrolling through my Instagram comments. And all of them are like,
worst, ugly as fucking swing in the world. How about this scumbag claims he's a five?
Endless comments. And then I'm, I'm waiting for these guys to roll up to the 10th team. We play.
And on a hole like five, the golf rabble guy is like, Bricks, like, you're a player, man.
like wow like you and i think i shot like 38 playing against them again with like no birdies
and he was just like man i've been watching online i love your stuff like you're a fucking
player right now and the the juxtaposition between real life and what you're looking at on the
internet can drive a man insane for sure yeah yeah it's a it's a nightmare out there it's a
fucking we're in the trenches but you know what if being in the trenches let's us do what we get to
do then then fine i'll sign me up all day i mean there's just as many people
on the good side of the bad side.
But I mean, yeah, people think that we're reverse sandbagging,
which is such a weird, weird thing that I don't know who in their right mind would ever want to do.
Like there's no sense in me saying that.
So, yeah, yeah, that's some good golf you playing rigs.
I'm playing Torrey Pines while I'm here south course.
I have not hit a golf ball since we were at the kingdom.
And I learned my new swing.
I haven't even taken, I have not made contact with a golf ball since I learned this like abbreviated follow through,
that new tip with the fucking glove.
So I'm a little excited to get out there and just see if it's still there.
I mean, I've done a couple of swings in my room.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know if it's still there.
It feels weird.
I can't wait to hit, like, the range and see if it's there.
And then on the first day, the South course looks like a fucking bear.
Like, I've been flying around the drones and the wind is always in your face and what hole you're on.
And I don't know.
I'm just a little nervous.
It just feels like I'm going to play pretty poorly.
I don't know.
What do you guys think I'm going to shoot out there?
I mean, it's like breaking 90s.
Yeah, what's your goal, right?
because it's an adjusted goal.
Like if you were playing fucking Eisenhower or whatever
that you always chirp, your goal is probably to break like 80,
but you're playing you're playing Torrey Pines South
a couple months before the U.S. Open.
Your goal's got to be, what, mid-80s?
Yeah, I would love to break.
Breaking 90 would be a great day out there.
If I come in with an 88 on the card at Torrey Pines South
with like an overcast and wind coming off the ocean,
I had a great day.
I hit drives.
I made a couple bogeys.
I maybe made a double boge because I'd skull fuck
on over the green, but I also made a couple of pars.
I hit a couple greens.
That's a good day on the golf course for me.
I'm sorry.
I think you're going to break 90.
I do too.
I have the mindset of breaking 90.
The only thing that's getting in my head,
I'm a very,
I'm not a real golfer right now.
Everything's been in my room.
I've been putting on the petting mat that we have.
I've been taking swing.
So I'm not an actual golfer.
The one thing that I, that's fucked me up is Joel Damon,
that motherfucker.
I saw on your instance.
Instagram story. You played with him the other day, Rick. And he just changed his putting grip. Now, you can't do that to me. So we played Joel Damon in a scramble. And he taught me this new hockey putting grip that he said he was working on and that he was using. So I just changed my game to do that because when a pro tells you to fucking change something or try something, you do it. I made a couple of puts when we played Joel Damon. I got fitted with that new grip. Like everything, all my stats, the way they were reading everything was with that new grip. And he just.
In the videos with race, he just doesn't have that grip anymore.
So now I feel like an idiot that I'm sitting out here with some fucking old-ass shitty grip
that probably doesn't work anymore.
That he's now assessed that putting grip and said, I am changing it.
He does the claw now from what I saw.
I think it's just a feel thing, right?
So just relax yourself.
You've got your game can be elite.
It can also be horrible.
Just think it's going to be elite the whole time.
Right.
I'm less confident of you breaking 90 after that after that.
Yeah, that was awesome.
Yeah, we abandoned for a second
The fact that you're a mental nut job on the golf course
And we thought, you know, maybe it'd be a little sound.
Your game, your game from what I've seen
The last two times out, so we were in Florida
And we filmed all day.
And then we were at the kingdom
And we filmed all day and you're over on my left.
And you were just flushing the golf ball.
So I expect pretty good things for me.
I do think you need to try this time when you're golfing.
Just keep a positive attitude.
Try it.
As hard as you can, fight your day.
negative neurotic brain and see what happens all right i'll update the people i'll take some videos
out there and we'll see how we do but yeah i'm a little nervous you know who's rooting for me to get
better is kevin kisner i woke up at like three o'clock in the morning because he's off i don't know
what time he's on whatever but i woke up to a tex this morning and he's just like my teacher jt
wants to get you right like i don't know what they i don't know how that conversation came up but
he just came out of nowhere to me he's like oh he wants to get you right and like you play rigs in a
match. Like, he thinks he can get you, like, low enough to, like, compete in a match.
I'm like, all right, kids. Like, I can't fucking compete with race. Like, I can't even put
around the, I can't do anything in the short game. He goes, stop chipping and just fucking get
your mind right. Put from around the greens. Like, just figure it out. Score low. Like, he's,
he's gassing me up. I'm like, I'm about to go play Torrey Finds South. I got Kevin Kiznizant,
gasping me up mentally. You also, you could, you could become around my level or better because,
but your issue is that mentally, you need to understand.
and I'm not going to chirp you here.
I think it's almost like your course management.
You need to understand that like you always can play like more of a Bubba Watson style of golf.
Or like Baba stripes it and like you're you can hit the ball well enough that your chipping and putting don't matter that much.
Like if you hit it well that you can comp you can compensate for that where I don't hit it that well,
but I make up a lot of strokes around the green.
So like my goal is just keep it in play, get it up near the green and I can shoot decent scores.
Whereas like you should be like really focused on.
I would say even more so, like, improving your actual swing and, like, your consistency
hitting the ball rather than even thinking about your short game, because your short game is,
like, it's going to be kind of a disaster unless you made a crazy effort to fix it.
Whereas your long game, like, if you just honed it in a little bit, I think you can make up a ton of shots.
That's Lurch's game.
Lurch stripes the fucking golf ball, and he's one of the worst putters in the world and can still shoot.
He has the ability to shoot a 70, or 70.
Yeah, sometimes if it goes well.
you even get in the 60s.
But that just goes to show.
And you make a good point where it's like ball striking.
You either you have one or you have the other, because if we had both, we'd be pros.
Right.
So you got to just accept one game or the other because, so I just, yeah, it's true.
I shouldn't.
When I get over a fucking chip or like a 30-yard shot, I should just pick the club that I feel most comfortable with as opposed to like trying to hit the shot that I can't hit.
That's the thing that I struggle with.
Why don't I take a seven iron out and just put it or like take a putter and just put it onto the green somewhere and hopefully I can make a four or five instead of that seven that skull fuck into the fucking bushes and then I take a drop.
That's what I have to do.
I agree with that.
But I think, Tori, I think you're going to play well.
I have a good feeling.
I think you're going to play well.
We're all rooting for you, Frankie.
Thank you.
I appreciate.
Yeah.
No, you're very welcome.
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tiger woods or jordan speith tiger woods tiger woods is going to win the masters or i hear at torrey ponds
A magical years happening.
A magical years happening for Tiger Woods.
He got fixed.
His back is good.
He was wearing shorts at the Super Bowl.
I saw that.
I got to tell you.
I got to tell you,
I don't appreciate the question because I don't have a good,
I don't know.
I don't know who's going to win one first.
You know?
I saw,
I heard you ask that question and I'm mad at it because I,
like I obviously want to say Tiger.
I want to say Tiger really, really, really badly.
And we've only seen a couple good rounds out of Jordan Speeth that's new and improved, hopefully, you know, going forward Jordan Speeth.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say Tiger.
I don't know.
I don't feel that confident about it, but I want it to be Tiger.
Yeah.
I'm going to say Tiger as well, but it's, it's, yeah, like, if I was thinking about it this way, if you're, if you're pinned with the question like, will Jordan Speeth win another major?
I think in your head you say yes.
Yep.
And it's, I think, if you're really truly objective.
like will Tiger Woods win another major?
I don't know that you are as strong of a yes.
However, like if you're just going off this next four or five year window,
the answer is Tiger,
but also that's Tiger's only window.
He's just getting older.
So it's a little dicey.
Murch?
Yeah, no, I'm, that's exactly what went through my head.
And I might even be closer to no than yes on both of them, honestly,
if either of them will win another major.
but as just a fan and wanting Tiger
and wanting to see Jack squirm a little bit
to get like especially in Augusta here early in the year,
to get him to 16 would be very excited.
So it's Tiger.
Tiger's also got such a,
in terms of a fan,
he's a very emotional domino effect.
Like when Tiger won the Masters in 2019,
we immediately were like,
oh, he's going to win the PGA at Beth Page,
he's going to win the U.S. Open at Pabell next year.
like he's going to win everything.
And so if Tiger, like right now, it seems like, man, for him to get past 15 is pretty tough.
But if he gets to 16, we're going to be like, chat, smell you later, bro.
Like, it's over.
So he's so, he like drives you to such extremes on both end of sadness and then of hype train.
So I'm not sure.
Will says, hey, Trent, can we please get a biochem update?
Oh, yeah.
He's the guy who, is he South Korean player?
I think he's South Korean and what he had to go in like the military or something or what he had to do.
No, what happened was, so he, during one of the tournaments, he flicked somebody off for taking a picture with their camera phone.
And I want to say they suspended him for three years.
I don't know if that's the right number.
I can't remember.
I wish I was more prepared about my biochem update.
Well, I think it is three years.
I think it was three seasons.
And I think he appealed it down to one.
So he's still, if I have all this correctly,
it hasn't been a year since that happened or maybe it's close.
He is still suspended by his tour because he gave somebody the middle finger for taking a picture of him with a camera phone.
Here's the craziest thing that I found.
This article was written in October 2019.
And it said Kim's suspension reduced from three years to one year.
after obscene gesture.
And it says that he will still be fined $8,350 and ordered to complete 120 hours of community service.
But the TOR's money leader in the 2019 season, Kim will be eligible to return in 2021.
All right.
So he's back.
So he's either back or soon his time will have ended and he'll be back.
But yeah, he might be back.
imagine the PJ tour
suspending their top money leader
for a year because he gave somebody a middle finger.
That's just you just,
Dustin Johnson is out for a year
because he gave somebody a middle finger
when they took a picture of the camera phone.
You'd like your tour,
the governing body of your professional golf tour,
to be more on the side of the players
than it is on the person taking a picture
with their camera phone.
That's just me.
I was pretty stunned at how long ago that was.
That was, I mean, that was in 20,
2019.
2020 was a blip.
It's not even a real year.
So things from 2019 were real.
Nothing real happened in 2020,
like with sports, stats,
none of that.
So if that makes sense to me that that happened to 2019,
because that was when you could flip off someone at a golf tournament.
Right,
when they were fans.
Anika Sorenstan announced that she's going to make her first start
on the LPGA tour in 13 years.
I think that's coming up in a couple weeks,
I believe that tournament is.
She's got a crazy record, like 72-time LPGA tour winner and like retired relatively early, relatively young.
She's got over $22 million in career earnings on the LPGA tour.
And again, to think that that was, you know, she stopped playing 13 years ago.
She's got 10 major championships.
And then she also is very, very iconic for her swing where her head moves and her eyes move as George Gankis was talking about.
Like her eyes are looking at the flag when she makes contact with the golf ball.
It's fucking incredible.
But she's arguably the best player to ever play the game and the women's game.
So she'll be coming back, whether it's sort of, I don't want to call it like ceremonial,
but or she's like all in on making a full tiger-like comeback.
Who knows?
But she'll be back and playing, which is very cool for the women's game.
Okay, gentlemen, we got Pebble this week.
Pebble's always cool.
We get fucking whales and we get all kinds of funny.
interesting little commentary from the visuals.
The visuals at Torrey Pines when they were there a few weeks ago,
and the kind of panning camera shots that they did were awesome.
So I expect that they'll have that same sort of action going on at Pebble and SpyGlass this week.
But it'll be fun despite the fact that it's kind of a John Deere-esque field and it's Pebble.
So it'll be a good time.
I'm looking forward to me.
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But that's all I got, if you gentlemen, have anything else.
I'm just looking forward to seeing Clint East with this week.
He's the main headliner.
I don't know, given the times, I don't know if they're going to put him in the booth
because I believe, I mean, he's got to be pushing 90.
But I hope they bring him out because the interaction between him and Jim Nance and Nick Faldo
are always the best.
Bro, what was it like two or three years ago?
You tweeted when he was just staring out
into the fucking ocean, you're like, I'm pretty sure
they just build that set around Clint Eastwood
and he stays there all year long
and they just, they build the tent around him
and bringing the cameras.
Buying the Trent ever said, I fucking died laughing with that.
I saw him on the side where like he was doing that on purpose
because he's like, that's how off the map was.
Because they will, they'll say,
to be like, what do you think of that shot? Clinton? He'd be like,
wah, rah, rah, rah.
And then they just go back to him and Faldo. Like there's,
it's very interesting the way they do it every year.
Yeah, that's just laugh out.
So pay attention to that outside of the golf and enjoy it.
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