Fore Play - Fasting, Upcoming Golf Trips, & Career Golf Milestones

Episode Date: July 1, 2021

Is Fore Play now a fasting podcast? What’d we think of Frankie’s Morikawa interview? Are career golf milestones based on rounds’ total number or scores to par? We debate this and much more. Also we’ve got upcoming golf trips, buddies trips, and bachelor parties we preview heading into 4th of July weekend.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For Play, I'm sorry, Barstool Sports. We are joined in a very rare occasion, it seems like, these days, by the entire squad. We have my man, one of the largest babies in the history of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, Mr. Trent, Ryan. Trent, hello. Hello, Riggs. How are you?

I'm doing well. We also have from Long Island himself, maker of pizzas, Frank Borelli, 3rd. Frankie, hello. Hello. And we have one of the largest men, I would assume, from Rumson, New Jersey, a lover of the seaside area, even though he claimed that he's not, but he is Benjamin, aka Lurch. Lurch, hello. Hello.

No, actually, in that, in that ad read, Frankie was right thinking that when you said seaside, I was thinking Seaside Heights. So we did clarify that. I am more than a seaside guy than I would say everybody in this room. Yeah, you like the ocean breeze, a little bit of that kind of saltwater feel getting into your skin. I feel like you love that. It's one of my favorite things in this life. That's right.

So anyways, we got the whole crew. Fourth of July week coming up, just a little programming note, a couple programming notes. Our entire office is closed next week. We're going to keep cranking stuff out. We're going to do two shows. So we're probably going to record our show before then. So the next time that you hear us, it might not be current, but we're going to do a podcast, two podcasts next week anyway. So prepare yourselves for that.

And then we also have Mr. Trent Ryan, again, one of the larger tiny babies from Cedar Rapids area in the history of that great state. Tonight, Thursday, 8 p.m. Eastern Time. He continues his effort to break 100 on the golf course. Correct. We meet you and Lurch played in San Diego. I believe the place was called Eagle Crest. So it's another effort. I get a putting lesson from J.T. at the beginning of the episode. And people have been yelling at me for three weeks now about my putting.

So we finally tried to fix that. We met at like a little golf course. He snuck out. It was during the U.S. Open. So he snuck out. He snuck away from Kevin Kisner's house. I felt like it was like an affair going on. He snuck out.

We met her a little putting green. And we worked on putting for like that. That's the first half of the episode. And then the second half of the episode is me, Riggs and Lurch, sweating our dicks off in San Diego. one of the hotter days that I've ever been a part of, although I will say I'm currently a part of one of those hot days. It's 95 degrees in New York City.

And while we're recording this podcast, I have to turn off my air conditioning because it's too loud. So if you're watching on YouTube, let's see how shiny my face gets. By the end of this podcast, I can already see it starting to shine. But anyway, tonight, 8 p.m., the next attempt for the Breaking 100 series, check it out.

It's going to be awesome. I appreciate all support so far. So let's just, let's keep it roll. You can hear the new apartment in the background. You can hear that Trent is currently in the moving process because of the echoes. It's amazing when you just don't have stuff in your apartment. It has this very specific sound on a podcast. I didn't realize that until when I was moving out of my last apartment before this one

and stuff was just bouncing off the walls when I would like drop something on the floor. It is crazy how much your stuff absorbs all of the noise. Hopefully it doesn't sound like shit for the podcast. I apologize if it sounds horrible. but yeah, I'm in a new apartment. There's not a ton of stuff in here right now. So it sounds like I'm in the middle of a gymnasium. Yeah, it kind of sounds like you're coming over to like a loudspeaker.

Like you're a principal given a like a statement to the school. Yeah, look, we're normal guys going through normal life experiences. Trent moved. It's debatable if you could argue you move departments. He moved like five feet down the hallway or something so that he wouldn't have to actually move. But people started giving me shit yesterday when I was tweeting about like, oh, hey, moving, this sucks. And I kind of forgot that I told them that I'm moving to a different unit in the same

building. But this is maybe the hottest stretch in the history of New York City. And when you're jumping in between apartments, it doesn't matter. The elevator is still 1,000 degrees and the hallways are still 1,000 degrees. So it's still super hot. Shout out to producer Jake Bass. He hopped over to my place yesterday. He lives right around the corner. And he helped me move a couple of big things.

So shout out to him. Thank you for that. And it's still a move And I still sweating my ass off Yeah, there's no denying it's a move But you eliminated like the worst Parts of the move Like when I was moving out of the city back to Long Island

That was a fucking nightmare Trying to get one of those big box trucks To park on the city and on the street And the guy comes out He goes, you can't leave this here And I said if I don't leave this truck here How am I supposed to move? How am I supposed to leave this building?

I'm not walking my dresser in my bed down in New York City Street. I have to park in front of the building. You understand that. And he's just like, that's unacceptable. So it's just, it's a really, really bad situation moving in New York City. I still should be able to complain. I think that's fair. I don't know, man. You can complain, but you have to be, you have to be accepting of people to fire back that you're not moving to the most like shitty degree that one can move. So you need to be conscious of that, like the relativity of your moving situation. It's a hole in one on a par three course.

That's like, that's what you're dealing with right now, you know? Yeah, you got a hole in one, and we should all celebrate that for you, but there's always the caveat, right?

Like, that's what you guys say to me and Riggs about Heinhears. Yeah, it's not really the real thing. You didn't have to really work that hard for it. It was an 80-yard shot off of a mat, the whole thing. That's basically what you did with your move.

I just don't complain. I complain is so good. And, you know, what's great is moving is such a universal thing, obviously. Yeah. Like when you,

you're like, man, you know what sucks? Moving. People are like, I totally get it, man. You know,

people are all in it. But when you tell them that you're not moving building to building, if you're moving unit to unit, they're less open about it. But still, moving fucking sucks.

For rich, it sucks even worse. For rich people, moving's probably great. You just show up and everything's like just, you're in a new place. I've known someone that just showed up to a new house. And they just,

like, they had a party. Like, oh, let's go see the house. Let's see how it was set up. They walked in. They're like, ooh. One of the main responses I got was people being like,

you should have hired movers. But I didn't think, and I guess I didn't even get quotes on her, I didn't even look around. But I didn't think it'd be worth it. Like, I didn't want to spend hundreds of dollars just moving and throwing my stuff in the elevator. But maybe I should have gotten movers. Yeah.

I would say work, or the move is a sneaky good workout. So if you can get through it, it's, you know, you work a lot of different muscles. You feel sore the next day. And it is tough to stomach. spending a bunch of money on something that you know you could have just done. Because it is, it's expensive because it cuts out how shitty it is. So they know they can just ramp those prices up.

But I would say that if you're going to talk about being rich and what you can actually do and how that can actually change your life, there's not a ton of things that would dramatically change your life. You're still going to hang out with your friends. You're still going to play out. But like, you know, flying private is one that Dave's talked about a lot. Like you can just fly private. That changes your life dramatically.

And I would say you could just eliminate moving. You could just pay thousands and thousands of dollars and you could go to work one day or go to get hang out with friends for five or six hours, come back. And movers will have just moved everything into your new establishment and set it wherever you want it. But that's very expensive. Like when I moved out here, I justified it because it was like a couple thousand dollars, but they moved my entire life from New Jersey to Scottsdale, Arizona. and then part of that was when they came in, they just set things wherever I wanted it to be set, and you're good.

But when you're moving again from floor fucking five to floor six, I don't know. I would love to know the quote on that. Like you're just, what is the quote there? I mean, I don't know. That's kind of be pretty minimal.

And I think we talk about on this show, at least sometimes like, who's the man on this show and who's not a man? And I think calling up a moving company and being like, hey, I need to move all my stuff. Are you guys available to do that? They're like, yeah, what's your starting address? I give them that.

And then they'd be like, moving on your stuff to. And then I'd have to repeat the same address with a different apartment number. And they might just hang up and be like, fucking grow up, dude. So I don't have that much big stuff. Whatever. It was just really fucking hot. How is the move going? Have you finished?

I finished. I'm in the new place and I'm no longer at the old place. All my stuff is out of there. I gave my keys up this morning. Today I've been busy building TV stands and a bed frame. So I'm doing all that stuff. But I'm in the apartment now. And I think it's going really well right now.

That's what I would say. That's good. You're just waiting for the couch. They've got to deliver the couch, right? I'll deliver the couch tomorrow. I am having a guy come out and build that because I don't think I can build a couch. I can build a TV stand. I can build a bed frame, but I can't build a couch.

So I'm having to do that tomorrow. That's why I'm sitting in the beach chair still. So, yeah, no, it's going well. I'm excited about the new place. I would think building the couch is the easiest thing to build. A couch comes pre-made. It's not like you have to make the cushions or anything. Like usually you just screw on the feet and put it together.

I don't know. I guess they made it seem like it's coming in pieces. I know I wasn't going to have to fill the pillows with stuffing or anything like. You don't have to go like hunt and get the feathers and put it inside of the cushions. Are you sure? Well, yeah, it comes in pieces. Like you got a couch is like a three-piece couch. and it comes in the huge sections that you sit on

and you just slide them together. I think you may have gotten bamboozled. I think that's a bambooz. That's not a bamboozle. Like a TV stand is from IKEA is a thousand times more difficult to build than a couch. I mean, unless this couch is quite literally coming in pieces,

like you have to go underneath the fabric and put wooden frames up. Just like, like, do you maybe have to screw the legs in or something, takes 30 seconds. That TV stand must have came with at least 50 screws, no? Come on. I've been laying on my floor.

I've been on my... That fucking TV stand came with a thousand screws. I mean, come on now. You get like the screw A and then you've got a screw double A and they're slightly different. You put the back on the wrong way.

Everybody's done the same stupid mistake. I think I threw them out. I wish I had them because the ink was running on the pages because I was sweating. What was pouring off my forehead onto the instruction manual and the ink was running. I hope you guys are making me think now that I hope that the couch comes in 10,000. Yeah, seriously. Well, look, Trent, when you finish up tomorrow with your couch, you get to enjoy, you get to sit down, you get to soak it all up.

You get to enjoy yourself a little Owens mixers. I have to do that. I've been drinking it without a couch. I thought Mr. Seaside guy was going to jump in. Was it one of the all-time Owens ads of Tea Daddy walking down the beach with a wheeled duffel bag and then saying whatever you said about Delicious Owens and then just walking off? Was one of the all-time funny ads I've ever seen? Yeah, we're on some beach in Coney Island, I think.

I don't even really remember exactly where we were. But yeah, if Owens wants me to do a commercial, I love Owens so much. will hop in a car and I will do a commercial for that. You guys made it look, whatever that shitty beach probably was, you made it look like you were in Aruba or something. Look, that was well done. And it tricked me. I was looking around for signs and I could kind of see from some of the buildings.

I was like, that looks like Long Island or somewhere. But anyways, Owens Mixers, they've been a partner with us for a long time, clearly. They invest heavily on what we're doing because they like what we were doing and they make a great product. So it's a natural partnership. We taste tested. We came up with the Owens Transfusion, which we got right here, Barstall Transfusion.

Buy Owens. You get this puppy on Amazon. They'll deliver it to you the next day. You pour it in with some vodka. You got an awesome cocktail. We've also got the grapefruit and lime, which leads to, when you put it in with tequila, leads to the lurchy paloma. I see him retweeting anyone on earth that's ever drank a paloma, which is probably a good move.

It's a good brand. It's a good drink. It's a whole time. And Owens has come up with the perfect formula for it. And then they've also got the mint cucumber in lime, which is one of my favorites, and a lot of other ones. So, my big thanks to Owens, you go to their website, Owensmixtures.com. They've got a store located if you're trying to figure out how to go get it. You can just order it off our website, off their website.

You can order it on Amazon. So big thanks to Owens, you pour it in. You got yourself a delicious cocktail. Like I mentioned, 4th of July week is upcoming. We got a good amount of golf that we're going to be playing. We're going to play a little bit of golf in New York City next week. And then here in the next few weeks, we're going to be making a trek to, Michigan to film a little bit more of a travel series.

We're going to play a few courses. People have been pointing out for a long time. So if anyone has any dramatic tips on what we should do in Michigan for a week, we're going to be up there. We're going to be using the Barstville Sportsbook app. We're going to be getting involved in a little bit of game, which we love. We do that during the Masters every year. We go to the Philly House, but now it's live in Michigan, so we're going to be in

Michigan. But yeah, we're playing a little Michigan, pure Michigan. See a lot of commercials for it. They pop up on Golf Channel, Pure Michigan, this time of year. You know, these courses, I feel like these places are just greener because it shit for like six months of the year. And it's in it, they get a lot of rain. They get snow that melts. And then it's like luscious during the summer.

I don't think I've ever played a single golf course in the state of Michigan. Same. And I've only been to Michigan during dark, cold, wintery, like times. And I have bad memories in Michigan, like Detroit. Like I got COVID in Detroit and I had to drive back to New York. And it was just an absolute nightmare. I drove 14 hours, not feeling well. So that's, and it was freezing, and it was just, you know, it was not that great.

And I've been to Michigan games that have been raining. I went to Michigan, Michigan State and the rain. That was a fun fucking game. We were on the field, but still, like pouring rain, cold, college football. So I'm excited to see Michigan in its luscious green accepting summertime. I've heard very good things about Michigan. The lakes there, right? they have a lot of lakes in Michigan?

Big time. A bunch of lakes. We got a really big one too called Lake Michigan, which is, yeah, fucking huge. So tons of lakes, a lot of water. I think we're going to see Lake Michigan, I believe. So we've already got the courses lined up. So in terms of recommendations, you know, it's too late in the game. In terms of booking, we already got all that figured out.

But other recommendations, there's like a cool activity. I was thinking like whitewater rafting. Imagine if we went like whitewater rafting or something that we could mix in, particularly around the forest dunes, maybe Arcadia Bluffs, regions of Michigan, if anybody's got anything cool, great, because the sun's up for a very long time this time of year. I think you can play until, like, 9.30. I was talking to a couple courses they were saying.

So we would love, you know, we're going to play one round today, film it. It's intensive when we film these travel series. We got drone work. Everybody's miced up. We got like four camera guys and audio guys. So it's intensive for six, seven hours. But then there's going to be another, you know, five, six hours in the day

where we could do another cool activity. highlight the, you know, pure Michigan. Shout out to Carl. So if anybody's got any recommendations, again, we will take them. But we're going up to Michigan. We're finally doing it. It's been recommended forever. So in a few weeks' time, we'll be up in Michigan, playing a little bit of golf.

I'm going to Aaron Hills in the late part of July, which I'm really excited about. I think Lurch has a little trip booked to Aaron Hills in maybe August or so. So shout out to those guys up in Wisconsin. I'll be getting a little Wisconsin golf then too. But, yeah, I'm excited to play a little golf, fellas. I'm excited to see you guys up in New York. I haven't been in New York. Very ironic.

I haven't been in New York since last fall, and the one week I'm coming back to New York is the week when our office is closed. Completely closed. You just do it right, man. You're right in the book right now. No one does it like Riggs. It's truly unbelievable.

But you know what? I fucking, everyone at that office should aspire to be Riggs at that point. Like, that is so well thought of and so well calculated. It's insane. I'm playing a little golf in Hilton Head, actually, next week. So got my buddy's bachelor party. Shout out Nick and Casey for getting married. That'll be fun.

And I'm going down to Dolphin Head Golf Club because my boy Keegan is hooking us up. He was at Rockville Links. He's down there. Cannot wait to see Dolphin Head. And I'm very excited to just be with a bunch of my buddies on the golf course. It's been a long, long time since I've done that. Maybe about over a year when I went to Delaware. So that was a long time ago.

And I'm really looking forward to just playing some golf with people that you know I like to play golf with all the time and it's been a long time so really excited I've been telling people too like the next over the next month I've got a few different week stretches like the Aaron Hills trip and uh really this next like week from St. Louis through New York we're playing very little golf for content just actually like playing golf and hanging out with my friends which we we don't get to do a ton like we probably get to do the the content playing golf which is really cool it's part of our job we get paid to do it's fantastic but just like playing golf, not really having your phone out, not really having a camera around, and just hanging is

something that I cannot wait to do. So really from this Saturday, I mean, St. Louis with a couple of buddies, really with my crew, my brother, my best friends growing up, and then next week in New York with you guys with a couple other friends, and then a few weeks after that when I go to Aaron Hills for five days with some buddies, just playing golf mostly off the radar, I cannot wait to do. And Frankie, you're going to Hilton Head. I don't know if you've been there before, but Hilton Head is, they've done a fantastic job. with that place. It's really clean. Like there's certain regulations. You can't see like signs and

advertisements for places from the main road or a lot of it's like hidden. So it's just a really clean, cool place to go. So I'm sure you're going to be pumped with Hilton. Yeah. I thought it was, it's not the greatest like bachelor party destination. I don't think. But with my crew, we were really struggling because this, this is a wedding that's gotten delayed a year. And we originally were supposed to go to New Orleans. That was like going to be our first. This is like my group's first bachelor party too like first guy getting married in the crew so we really want to do something cool um but he's kind of like a i'd i'd say he's almost like a trend where he like doesn't want to do the crazy stuff he likes to just chill out and so like we tried to figure out a next best option once

um new orleans was canceled um not canceled but it was like there was nothing going on it was covid times so we ended up booking hilton head and i'm actually really looking forward to it i've heard really good things about like sea pines and we're right by harbortown um so i mean we'll find We'll find some trouble in there, no problem. I mean, you get a group of 11 or 12 Meadow, Meadow, Long Island. Who knows what's going to happen down there? So we'll end up making a good time. But we have one round of golf scheduled, which I actually thought,

so I was, like, debating with my buddies, like, how are you not bringing your golf clubs? I'm going to bring mine because I'm a tailor-made athlete. I love using tailor-made. But they ended up figuring out that there's these companies down there that you just, like, rent from the company, and they just bring the clubs to the golf course, and you never have to worry about it. So if you're only playing once, like you just show up to the course, the guy drops off the golf clubs, he picks them up after you're done.

You really don't have to worry about any of the travel. You don't have to worry about any of the expenses of getting it onto the plane. And off the plane, you're playing one round, and you're on your way. So I thought that was pretty cool business down there in such a golf heavy, like, universe in Hilton Head. Yeah, and it is always, I would say the one round is always a tough spot on a trip, whether you should bring the clubs or not. When you get to two plus, I think it's a no-brainer. Bring your own clubs.

It justifies it. But when it's one round, that's a tough spot. clearly like you're saying that that's not really the focus of the trip so if it's not even the focus of the trip then is it worth the hassle to fucking bring the clubs pay 30 or 40 bucks each way like you just got to deal with it you're always the last guy to get your luggage of the baggage claim because they got to come through the oversize you're like fuck this so yeah if you can come up with something like that but i would say bachelor party is one where you're right because people like that crew usually a bachelor party crew likes to play golf but do you want to have your own clubs it's probably going to be a good amount of drinking so does really matter if you have your own clubs.

Right. It gets a little dicey. I personally was like, I can't play other clubs aside from Taylor Maids at this point. I want my own stuff. I want to have a good time. To me, we travel enough with our golf clubs where it's just become a part of our travel experience. Like I just know how to maneuver myself around an airport now with a golf bag.

My buddies may not be as experience in that. So they're just like, whatever, just bring the clubs there. I'll hit anything at that point. They may not even see the golf ball at that point. Like you're saying, who cares? what you're swinging with. But me personally, got to use the tailor maids.

Yeah. Golf traveling is a magnificent thing. Just you can pack as much stuff as you want to do it. And also, when I was moving, I packed that fucker full and I helped it during my move.

Like, it's just a big bag that you can just stuff full of shit. It's just an easier way to travel. Remember that one moment? I think Lurch brought up where he was like, I think they're going to stop letting you pack non-golf items

in your golf bag. Was it you Lurch? Somebody sent us a story and that's a few companies have tried to do that a few or airlines i guess that i was asked actually do you only have golf clubs in here and i was like yeah and they were like okay and it was it was real awkward and they they essentially were trying to tell me that they're changing that rule or whatever that you're not allowed to but there will be anarchy and and a huge uprising if they change that because you're right that's like a life hack where you put your golf clubs and pretty

much everything else you own and you're going to bring on that trip into that golf bag and then you just roll it on its wheels and it's a it's easy it's just another piece of luggage yeah it just feels illegal for them to say like no this is a golf bag it has to be only golf clubs like you have to get another bag that sounds outrageous I'll just be like no this is just a suitcase that I can fit my golf clubs in and it also fits clothes and it's under 50 pounds or put it on the fucking plane well the problem is it's a private business so they can just be like you are no longer coming on the plane like you're like this is illegal and they're just like okay here's your ticket back and go use this golf bag somewhere else there's no way united's got the capability to say no you're not allowed

on the plane now because of this although i will technically can though is my point so we're flying to aaron hills and we're going out that way we had a direct flight from newark to milwaukee i've never seen any airline do this ever they just sent an email out that says now you're going to connect through chicago so that flight now is just evaporating And so now the path at like no discount or anything. United just said, now what's going to happen is you're going to fly from Newark to Chicago, Chicago to Milwaukee, which is ridiculous in so many different ways. So maybe Frankie, to your point of like they can do anything they want, I guess technically based on this,

this is way worse than that. Because now it's like, well, now I'm cancel my flight because I'll get off of Chicago and just drive. Instead of doing a connecting to Milwaukee, it's not going to. It saves me any time. So now it's a big man. It's like the cable companies in South Park. I'm like, oh, why don't you go complain or go to the other cable companies? He's rubbing his nipples the whole time. They're like, we just want the channels. Oh, you actually have to buy the whole package. No, no, I just want this one channel. Oh, man. I'm so sorry. That is. That is what it is. They can just do whatever literally. Go fly yourself there on your own,

they're going to say. I'm so accustomed to traveling with my golf clubs that one time like a month ago, I think I went to visit my parents for the weekend, and I flew with just a backpack and a little duffel bag, and I got off the plane, and I stood at bag claim until all of the bags came out. And then I was like, oh, I'm just not waiting for my bags. And it cost me another 15, 20 minutes. But you get so accustomed to it that you're right. I, at this point, if I'm going to play around the golf, I'm going to bring them.

But I think we're a very rare case because we get to just travel. and play so much golf that we're used to it. Speaking of flights, I watched the show manifest the other day. It's been like a top 10 on Netflix, like, thing. I watched that. Worst show of all time. One of the worst ever created,

and I can't believe it's on TV. I mean, I got through three episodes, and I started laughing. I couldn't get through four episodes. It's the worst show ever created. These people are on a flight. Do you know this synopsis, Trent? Do you know what happens?

I'm just excited to be. who are agreeing on something. It's making it. It's the worst show ever. They're on this flight. They get a little bit of turbulence and they land. And some of the worst acting ever. I mean, I'm sorry.

It's not to believe bad acting. It's basically the same thing as what happens in lost in a sense. Like it's like. Frankie knows bad acting. This is the worst acting of all time. They get off this plane and they're like, oh, that was like a crazy turbulence. And this guy's like, we haven't seen you in five years. years. And then they're like, they just were gone for five years. And then like there's this dark

like body that's following them and shooting people in their heads. Listen, it's the worst fucking show ever created and I'm sick to my stomach that I spent four hours watching four episodes. I think my brother and I ended up watching like six. We just turned it on at like nine p.m. And we're just kind of sitting there like doing nothing. And we were kind of in and out of sleep just like watching it on his couch. But you're right. Like, what Frankie just described is ridiculous and stupid is that he just made it sound. It is that way. They're on a flight.

They get struck by lightning. They land. And people are like, we haven't seen you in five years. And then there's this, like, ghost-like thing that reminds me of watching loss that just basically, like, kills people. But alongside that whole outrageous premise is the worst acting you've ever seen. Like, they just pulled five to ten random people out the street of like, have you never. ever acted before, you're going to be perfect for our lead role. And that's just everybody in it.

I can't believe it's like a top 10 next like show. It's like maybe everybody out there is doing what we just didn't find out that it is the word show of all time. I'll have to see the drop off after episode three. I'm done with this shit. So I mentioned we going to be playing a little bit of golf, Aaron Hills. I'm already already preparing to pack and bring as much of this as possible, gentlemen. A little truly hard seltzer just came from Chicago.

Cock Hill, Barstool Classic, where people were enjoying Trullies all day long. I see a lot of folks every week now who haven't had Trulies before. They've seen it online. They've seen it, you know, on social media, and they try it. And what's their reaction? They fucking love it. There's 16 flavors. They've got the OGs, some of the OGs, the blueberry assailles, which is one of my favorites.

Raspberry Lyme, also one of my favorites. They got these limes where, you know, the little lemon tea, I should say, which is kind of the tea, little ice tea, truly combination, seltzer combination, but truly is our go-to drink in a lot of places now, especially on the golf course, really, really good.

It's fantastic drink. It's refreshing. It's perfect summer drink on the golf course. Truly is just, they just do it right, you know, and they've been doing it right for a long time now. They're the name in the game. They are the name in the game.

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And people are on like their third truly. And they're like, man, these are delicious. What's going on in these things? I said, well, they just pretty much put. a bunch of really delicious, fruity flavors into some 5% ABV alcohol, and they did it with 16 different flavors, so you have choices. And that, my friend, is why you're enjoying it so much, and your, you know, three sellers deep here at 6.45 a.m. on the putting cream,

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for who's going to have the best career over the next five years? Yes. Anytime you have somebody with that kind of pedigree, that kind of future, that sort of optimism on this show in the golf world or a golf podcast. Excuse me? Chachet.

I saw you... Cache. I saw you trying to pick as many words like that word, pedigree, as you could get, and I wanted one more. It's cachet. Cashet is probably the... best one. It's encompassing of everything I was trying to say in one word. So thank you, Trent. I think it's, it's, I've just get it very excited and I wanted to break it down. First of all, I thought,

I thought a few of his answers were extremely interesting and stood out. One was the Olympics. So you guys were talking about the Olympics. He's going to play in the Olympics. A lot of people were bailing out. We debated it on the last show, kind of about, I wish the format was a little bit different. So there's more team. He made a very good point where Frankie relayed pretty much exactly what we had spoken about, about the Olympics being disappointed that it's kind of just another stroke play event, individual, whatever. And he made the point of like, well, if I get a gold medal, that adds to the USA tally at the end, and that's a big point, which I had never even considered.

But that's a very good point where, in theory, everyone that's there is playing for that total metal count team USA so that we dominate the world. I had never even considered that. I mean, when you think of it that way, it's the most team event you could possibly come up with, right? It's the fucking Olympics. You're playing for Team USA. It's something that people have given their lives up for. He does touch on that also where when we were talking about the tattoo and like what it means to him and all that stuff. It's a little bit different for golfers. And we talked about this where like it's not, it doesn't have the history in the Olympics.

And it's a very new format. It's new to the Olympics. So it's not something that he grew up wanting to do. so it is a very new like it's a new goal for golfers i feel like so it hasn't at the pedigree has not been set is that the word i wasn't is that the word set no pedigree established maybe established okay there we go i would argue though on that metal count it's like the metal count for the summer olympics is the u.s i think has like a thousand more two thousand more medals than any other country ever because we just have more people in the olympics than any other country too like when you get into swimming you get into the cartwheels what are we doing there what's that gymnastics gymnastics thank you appreciate that I couldn't get off like some on vials and then

cartwheels were basically two things that my mind couldn't leave but yeah I think so like that would be the only point that I would say against the metal count is just like the US is just going to win the metal count again this year for the other pick it's like not even close I would argue let's keep that dominance going. Let's let's totally as it can possibly be. Fair. Tough to argue that.

I mean, if everyone thinks the Lurchway, we're not going to win any medals. No, no, no. You need people to go win medals. Right. If they have your viewpoint on it, who knows,

200 years from now, that metal count's going to be real close and be like, oh man, I wish we had cared more because they're about to catch us and it's going to be the biggest upset ever when some other country blows right by us.

Okay, okay. I'm wrong. I love America. I hope we dominate the metal count going forward. I take back my statement. The only thing I will hold to is that, yeah, we do have about 2,000 more medals than in the other country. You are making the argument for complacency.

You are. I am not. I'm saying maybe we should think about the Olympics and giving maybe like an even amount of people per country to the Olympics. Is that fair? I actually don't know how the process in the Olympics works like that. Yeah, we're just better at more sports. It's like that's just the whole point of the Olympics, I think.

Do other countries, again, I... Like, we don't have the most population in the world, so I don't understand your point. We probably have the most funding for all Olympic sports, so we have the most entrance into the Olympics of any other countries. So we're more economically successful in Portland? Like, that's... Right, and now we're just... Yeah, that's pretty much true, which is bleeding into our metal can. Oh, I don't...

I don't... Do you know that that's even true? Do you know that that's even true? Can we get a real number? Like the Yankees bought their titles? Country medal count. We've got 2,827 medals. The UK is next at 883.

But that doesn't answer anything we were just talking about. What's the funding? You said you made the funding point. Right, right. That's what I was going to is like a next step. Yeah, I just don't know enough about the Olympics. You're coming off as anti-American here, I would say. No, no.

I'm screaming. I want to get off this ledge. I was just making a point against it. And now I feel like I'm getting pushed off a plate because, like, I hate America. That's not where I want to be. I want to be back on the boat. Can I consider it'll have me back on the boat? That's on communism.

Oh, God. What's the next topic, Rick's? Look, I thought it was a very good point that he made because I had basically been negative on the whole thing saying that there's really not much of a team aspect to it because you're just playing for yourself. and it doesn't feel like that. But when you look at the larger scale of the Olympics and the whole deal in playing for Team USA,

you all walk in under the red, white, and blue flag together at the opening ceremonies, you all kind of walk out under the web right and blue flag together at the end. That adds to that metal count and that domination of us having like 2,800 medals and the next close is having 800, you can be one of those medals, and that matters to them. So I thought that was important. Lurch doesn't. He's kind of more communist.

then Democratic and into our Republic. That's fine. It is. It's a little bit of a bummer. The other thing I thought was really interesting. Well, there are a handful that I wrote down, was Colin sort of taking note of like growing into himself and becoming his own person,

which I thought, like we actually saw through Brooks Kepka when he started winning a couple majors. Remember he went from super bland and not saying anything to all of a sudden he had articles coming out where he was weighing in on like, he was weighing in on Bryson, clearly, which is still a thing. He's weighing in on slow play. He was weighing in on all kinds of stuff.

And I thought that Morikawa was almost sounded, I mean, not similar in that they clearly have completely different personalities and takes on stuff. But similar in that he is observant and conscious of the fact that he's becoming his own person with his own style, going on Tonight Show, going on podcasts, and, you know, he's got the haircut. Like, he kind of is conscious.

of becoming his own person and not just wanting to blend in with every other standard, you know, country club, white dude on a PGA tour leaderboard, which I thought was very interesting. Yeah, he clearly has a personality. And it seems like he's getting comfortable enough with that now that he's had a certain level of success, just like you said with Brooks Kefka, which, by the way, I'd almost forgotten pre-forgotten about pre-major Brooks Kevka. Like I forgot that he was super boring. And now he is maybe he's top three polarizing guy in the sport.

But like you're saying, with Calmore Cowell, once you get more comfortable and you feel like you've had a level of success where you can finally be yourself, I think that's great. And Collin Morcau clearly has like a great personality. And we talk about on this show all the time where the more personalities golf can get, the better and bigger and more interest that the sport is going to garner, I'm all for it. And I think everybody else is too. Definitely. Definitely. And I thought, again, that was cool. I enjoyed that he was aware of that and that, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't like, oh, yeah, it's just kind of happening.

He was like, no, this is like who I am. And I think it's important that people know who I am and going that. I thought that the idea of wearing a suit or an outfit, like a noticeable, legitimate baller type outfit from the car and arrival part into the clubhouse was ingenious. I thought that was one of the smartest things I ever heard my entire life. I can't believe that they don't do that. I cannot believe that he, that no one's thought of doing that yet. I thought the point of like,

you're not there to have fun and fuck around and work out. Like, why do you show up in gym shorts? You're there for business. So you should wear business attire. I laughed out loud and, and thought that that was genius. I couldn't believe it.

Nobody come up with that before. Yeah. So before the, before the interview, I was doing a little bit of preparation. and I listened to him on JJ Redix podcast. I actually brought this up in the interview. Oh, and Tommy, the other guy on JJ Redix podcast.

But Colin loves Tommy. He kept bringing Tommy up. I think he may have forgotten Tommy's name or something in the... So basically I skipped to when they were talking about this in the podcast. And he says, like, when Tiger Woods, in JJ's podcast, he goes, when Tiger Woods shows up with a backwards hat and glasses, the internet goes fucking crazy. And the only thing he changed was he put his hat on backwards,

and he wore these really ridiculous sunglasses from the car to the clubhouse. Like, if we can make that and if we can like explode that a little bit, how cool will that be to have your own thing? Like, now the only problem is that you have to perform when you're like doing stuff like that, right? Like you don't want to be the guy like a Cam Newton showing up, you know, in these ridiculous fucking outfits and you're staying up there doing press conferences and you look like, I mean, Cam Newton's outfits, he looks like the queen of England sometimes, but. all the stuff he's wearing and he's just got like slaughtered like 62 to fucking 14 on the football field it's a tough look sometimes you become like a meme of yourself um by you know overdressing to these sporting events but calomorcawa is a cool cat man like that guy is going to be good on this tour for a very long time if there's anyone that will show up in like a black tie event

type suit from the car to the clubhouse i think it's colomoricaa like i don't i think j t would almost look a little weird in it. I think Brooks, everyone would be like, oh, he's trying to be the cool guy. I think Calamara Kao would look like fucking James Bond. Like he would be, people would be like, look at this fucking guy. And he's ready to murder us today. Look, I couldn't agree more. I think he's perfect for it.

I think he does have like that tight, you know, Euro soccer player type haircut. And you can get away with some of those, those outfits because you already kind of have a little bit of a business. Like you're taking yourself kind of seriously. you care what you look like when you go with the different length, the fade haircut, whatever the hell it is. But I also don't think everybody has to necessarily come in in a suit, right? Like you could wear, like Pat Perez could be rocking fucking Jordans and shorts and then like

a ridiculous, you know, button down shirt, you know, not tucked in. And like each person could kind of have their own look. But it is, it is crazy that we get all of these parking lot shots now. And no one has changed their attire. Like no one. They all just kind of come in in street clothes when it's like, dude, you're arriving for an event. Like in high school fucking hockey, like we wore suits to the games being like, this is business time, boys. Let's go.

And nobody's evolved yet in golf is extremely surprising. Now, they did used to wear that on the golf course, but I, that was, I don't know that was because they were showing up for business. Like they were more, that was just kind of the culture of golf at the time, I think. But, but yeah, Colin Moracawa just. on that ferry, which is where you guys are talking about, but if he on that ferry from, you know, downtown Manhattan, across by the Statue of Liberty over to Jersey City, and he arrives on the dock at Liberty National for the Northern Trust,

rocking a fucking suit with that haircut? Are you kidding me? I better bet the house on Kalamorikawa. You're telling me if, like, Tommy Fleetwood showed up in a top hat one day and, like, a little cane and started strutting in. I'm talking the crazy English suits with, like, it's got a little bit of a cape, on the back. I mean, if you're telling me, if Tommy Fleetwood didn't show up to, like,

the open championship in that, that we wouldn't be going fucking crazy. Like, I want to see this shit. And like you're saying, you can mix it up. You really can. And we just need more personality on tour. And it doesn't have to be so, it doesn't have to be so, like, have personality. Like, do it on your own. Like, do something funny. Like, like, the piped stuff is, like, they're forcing them to do it. But, like, I want to just see guys do it on their own. And you see it in basketball. You see it in baseball. You see it in all these other sports. And I think we're going to get there. I think guys like Colin and J.T.

And this young crew, I think they want to bring golf to that point. You can see it, you can hear it in their voices that they want to have personality. They want to be cool. They want to be, like, they want to have fans. They want to be known. A couple other things. One that he confirmed I was right on was Louis laying up on the 18th hole, 72nd hole at Torrey Pines for the US Open, which I'm wearing a t-shirt now.

A couple of things that he disagreed with what I had said, which was the 17th. 11th hole at TBC Sawgrass versus the 12th hole at Augusta National. Now I do think like Hal Sutton was on the other side of that. So we've had a little bit of back and forth on that. But he was very much on the side of the average amateur will make a lower score on 12 at Augusta than they would at 17 at Sawgrass. And then on the Lurch round where it was asked like which, what would be considered like your best round would be a, you know, even par 73 or like a one over 71.

I just thought the phrasing was because he very much was like, yeah, your best round is even par. It doesn't matter what. And so he was like, yeah, the even par 73. But I think that in the average amateur golfer lexicon, it's way more common to be like, what's your low round? Like what's your career low round? And not like what's your best round.

Because then I think you have to factor in a bunch of context. I think generally, and I could be wrong, maybe I'm wrong. but I think people were more like, oh yeah, what's your like career low is what I think people say. Well, I then clarify, I said, I said, what is his career round? Maybe not career low, but his career round. He goes, he has two. Yeah, he did say that. He has two career rounds.

There are two different versions. There's one that's a low score, and then there's one that's even to par. And he made a great point that he had the lowest score of that tournament, but maybe one. wasn't the lowest to par on PGA Tour history. You know what I mean? Like he shot 258 over the four days, but that may be minus 18 and another course that's minus 21. It's great.

But I think 73, even par, like what's your low? I shot even par one. But I would say this. So Justin Thomas in the 2017 U.S. Open at Aaron Hills shot 63, which that day was 9 under 63. Nine under was the lowest round to par in U.S. Open history. But everyone talked forever about no one had ever shot a 62 in major championship history. A bunch of people had shot 63.

There'd been like 15 of them or whatever there were. And it was a much bigger deal when like Brandon Grace finally shot the first 62 in major championship history, even though that was only, that might have been like eight under par. or whatever it was. So again, that's probably why he said, like, there's two because you could argue it either way. But, but yeah, in terms of which one is, like, more impressive, I think shooting even par probably is more impressive.

But I think that if you're at a bar having a beer and somebody says, like, what's your low round? I think you'd be, it would make more sense for me if you answered 71. So you think it's better to answer as in a number format than strokes to par for it. Yeah, because I don't think, like, Trent's series isn't like break 28 over. It's like break 100. Like, that's the number. Right. I've always, I've firmly been on that side that people care about the number than they do to par because part changes the number doesn't.

Par changes from course to course from day to day. Like, the number is the number. Trent has had many opportunities on par 70 courses, 71 courses, 72. He's just trying to break 100, the number. I got in that. fucking fight with my buddies at Cherry Valley about that where they wanted to turn the three into a four and they're like well it doesn't actually matter because at the end of the day it's all the same number I said no it's not it's not it's true it's true like I yeah my

why am I going to give myself a stroke to make it a par four because they're redoing the whole I'm giving myself a stroke now I didn't hit the mouthfall that's a huge difference that's a difference that's a difference between 99-100 Andrew and Kyle I still hit you over that shit

huge difference between 79 and 80, but there's not a huge difference between seven over and eight over. Who cares? No. Seven over and eight over of what? Like, you know what I mean? What was it? Now you have to answer another question. Yeah. I mean,

like, the even par is least consistent. Like, if Trent shoots, like does Trent, if it's a par 73 and Trent shoots a hundred, he's now found himself in a really dark place because it was a par 72.

He might have shot 99 on that court. I don't think so. I think it's just he shot 100. Right. So I'm saying at that level, it's people always, yeah, I shoot mid-90s, I shoot mid-90s, whatever. I shoot like high 80s. But then I think when you get closer to par, the pros or whatever, good golfers, like a lurch here, you know, really good golfer, you start to talk.

Yeah, it is disgusting. You start to talk about relative to par. I feel like that mindset changes. now I don't really know this, but I'm assuming that's based on Colmore. If somebody ever, has somebody ever asked you like, oh, what did you shoot today? Do you say three over? Or do you say 75? So I always say 75 usually, but.

I think everybody on Earth does. I think everybody on Earth does. Nobody ever says what you shot to bar. I think good golfers, like when I ask this kid that's good in my town, like, he always says, like, oh, it's 400 under today. It's 300. It's 300. This podcast isn't about people that play, like, the best golf in the world like the normal person playing golf what's the conversation right

and for this case for this right now i'm saying i shot even par is my best score but that is just not the common way of phrasing that which is my argument and when you take the common way like the common phrasing of what your low round would be would be the 71 it's your lowest number I would like to know if anybody else out there is in the same predicament I am that I shot at even par 73 of my low score ever as a 71 because I feel like I'm one of three people in the world that have this issue. The problem that you're coming into is that the 71 came on like a legitimate golf course. It's not like you played like so. That was par 70 course, yeah.

Like you didn't play on some executive course where you shot like a 59 or something. Like then you just, that's just not a real thing. but you have two legitimate scorecards. One is lower than the other. How could this ever be a debate? I don't know. I don't know how it could be a debate. One number is just lower than the other.

You wish the 73 never happened? I almost more wish the 71 never happened. It's like even par I think is more impressive. So just I wish I shot, I scored an eight on the last hole. You know, it's 76 that. Look, they're both very impressive. They're both very, very impressive. I just think that the way that people talk about it,

it would be if someone said to you, like, oh, what's like your low? Like, what's your career low? And you were like, yeah, I shot like 73 even par. They'd be like, awesome. And then if they found out later in that conversation 20 minutes down the road that you were like, yeah, I was playing this Florida core. I shot 71, like played really well. they'd be like well you just lied to me like you why are you lying to me sir i asked you what your

that doesn't make any sense because you actually played better the 71 day like that was more impressive yes you did because like the par so they have one less par five on each side than a typical golf course so like that extra par four you made a five on meanwhile like on another course you're just going to make a five on anyway too like you still played the golf course pretty much the same way you just scored better the day you shot of 71. Is that not make sense either? Like it just has one less par five on the par four that's probably a long par four. You made a fucking five anyway.

Right. But then you're saying like, all right, the average shot that you need to advance the ball is 100 yards or something like that. So you're just taking 200 yards out of the golf course from a par 70 to a par 72. And so like with that, I think you guys are actually just all jealous because you're still in that, you know, common person's air. I'm saying, my low's in 77, where now I've advanced myself to say my low is even bar. We're arguing to give you a lower score. Right. Right, but it's not, it's a worst round of golf. No, it's not. No, I don't think it is. I think that's where you're wrong.

That's where I disagree with you. Everybody on this podcast knows that you've plateaued as a golfer. We're all thinking about it. We all know. Trent, how hot? I think I'm actually getting worse the last couple times I played dude I am horrible this thing Trent how are you right now? Trent what's the fucking temperature in that room right now? I don't know if you had to throw a number on it we got it touch in mid 80s oh Trent do you have do you have Snapchat Trent

uh yeah I do I think you can pull it out and it will and you can do like a filter where it'll give you the temperature but I'm not sure if it does it outside I thought am I do it like in your in your room but I'm just trying to think of ways that we could check it but regardless it's really it looks really hot yeah it's it's starting to peek in I'm really starting to shine on this side of my face I really enjoy the conversation I'm having a good time I'm just hot yeah you got to pull the shade I mean if we're not pulling the shade there what are we doing get a little sun protection for yourself also the curtain situation has not been rectified yet so I'm Okay.

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You can win one million dollars. You can win all kinds of stuff. So credit karma.com slash win money. I also very much enjoyed during the interview that Morikawa just started writing down pizza reviews, like where to go for pizza. I found that very, very funny because he was like, yeah, I know we're in the middle of interview, but I need to write these things down. Like that wasn't just a token conversation about pizza.

He was like, give me the good. stuff I need to know where I'm going to go eat fucking pizza. Yeah, dude, I really, I don't like to, I only watch our stuff to see, like, how good the video came out, like the editing and the music and the production. Like, I like that stuff. I refuse to watch myself in any content or listen back to the podcast. I think it's, like, ridiculous to listen to yourself. I can't stand my voice.

I can't stand the way I talk. But I did listen back. I forced myself to listen back to the Morikawa interview because that was the first one I've ever done like that. And I really did. You could tell that he really was like into the pizza. thing and he was kind of laid back like i thought that was a cool version of like talking to a pro golfer where you just like we really weren't talking about golf at that point at all it was just

about like living and like coming to new york and traveling and like going to see a pizza place um i actually we talked about it a little bit in the dms about like what like what was his favorite and he said johns oblique street ended up being his favorite um he had prince street as well so he did take me up on my recommendations and he liked him so there you go Yeah, I thought you crushed it, Frankie. Good job. Were you nervous? How nervous were you? Extremely nervous. If you watched a YouTube version, too, you can see this. In the beginning, I'm like looking at them, looking at my laptop to just, I have a couple notes on there to like get me from question to question.

And I would legitimately just like stare at my laptop and read the question that I kind of written out. And then as it got on, I was a little bit more comfortable with like responding to him. Because there were moments where it's like, all right, now I have to speak. and like he's done talking and I don't have Riggs trying to to lurch to like now talk so oh I have to talk now so that was like a learning experience I have to there's no other option there's no one to lean on you have to talk it would have been an all time breaking moment if you would just stop talking

and then you guys are just sitting there and it's like oh all right I wanted him to start just like I was about to say at one point just like you just start talking like I have nothing else just start talking the good thing is that talk to me like a legitimately great dude and I mean all the run-ins that we've had with him He's been fantastic. So conversations with a guy like that are much easier than somebody else. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I agree.

So great work. Great job. People haven't listened to that. Go check out Kalamorakawa on our show. What was that the third time we've had him on, but the first time in person since COVID? I think so, yeah. He's always been awesome. He's very insightful.

He's very mature. He's going to win a ton. So check that out. If you have not, a quick fasting update. So I've eaten. pretty much nothing since Sunday night. I had on...

I'll go through everything that I've eaten. It's now... Before we get into this, we have to clarify that this wasn't some, like, research. You didn't go to a library to, like, see... This is on Joe Rogan's podcast, correct? This was originally on Rogan's podcast. Okay, good. So, like, this guy, Davidson, Claire, who he's out on a million times,

this guy thinks he's figured out the fucking and human body and the best way to, like, how to eat. You listen to this guy, say, I eat one time a day because it's going to make me live longer. And that's what you're doing now, right? I know you're about the state trend. I do the same thing. Okay. I just want him to clarify that that's what it is because there was a lot of, like,

I've done a lot of research. I looked into it. This is my new way of living. Well, what I said was that I heard this. I said, I literally listened to this. And then I did research, which I did. It's like, I don't listen to something. I'm like, I'm just going to change my life.

Like, you look it up, you find out who the person is, which I had no. idea who the person is. Like I clearly travel a ton. So I will like download long form podcast and I've probably listened to now. This is probably like the fifth or six different Rogan. I've done all the Elon Musk. I did some guy that was talking about aliens and I just scroll through and see if any guest is interesting to me. I saw something about like anti-aging. I was like I'll give that a shot. Listen to that. Research a little bit afterwards. Harvard guy. Shout out to Harvard and was like yeah, I'll give that a shot. That sounds like that's how you fucking live forever. And that's where it came from. Frankie did save himself by saying he does that.

that too because he listens to Neil de Gras Tyson on the Rogan podcast and then comes on here and is like, let's talk about this. I got to talk about this. So it's very similar. It's an, it's an informational show. It's very information. Totally.

Yes. Especially over fucking three hours. I mean, when you get someone that's, you know, people especially that are that are deep into what they do and are well-known for what they do and then they just talk about it freely for like three hours. No matter what you think about Rogan.

Like it's going to be informational on that topic. no matter what. Now, like I said, like I've, I think the first Rogan I ever listened to was probably a month ago or so. And it was the Elon Musk stuff where I went through listened to. And there's been a few that I've just turned off because I'm not into the subject matter. This one had me the whole time on a flight for like two and a half, three hours. I found it extremely interesting. And I was like, let's just see if I can do it. And so far over three days, I've been doing it. How do you feel? Great. I feel very good. What's an average meal that you put down? So I've eaten since Sunday night.

I had like a sushi, a normal like sushi dinner Sunday night. I probably finished up 8 or 9 p.m. local time in central time. So then Monday morning on the way to the course, I just had an impossible breakfast sandwich from Starbucks. It's actually pretty good, you know, even though it's just like all vegan shit,

but it's actually pretty good. And an ice coffee. And then I didn't eat anything Monday again until dinner. And I had a pretty standard like buffalo chicken wrap with like French fries. and two beers. Then Tuesday, I didn't eat anything until I was at the airport at about 6 p.m. last night, and I ate a chicken club. So it was like chicken, bacon, a little bit of cheese and like normal bread and some french fries. And then I was fucking starving when I got home. And I had nothing in my apartment. And I was like, I had slept, you know me. I sleep for like two or three hours in the plane.

So I was like, I'll be up for another two or three hours at least. And it was like 8 p.m. my time. So I stopped by the closest thing to my apartment and went by Jack in the box and I looked at the menu trying to find the thing with like the least amount of calories on it. And there's nothing on there. That's less than like 500 calories. Nothing. And so I was like fuck it. I'm not going to get the whole meal, but I just got a like a sausage croissant sandwich had like 520 calories. Wolf that thing down, lay in bed or hung around the apartment for two hours, went to sleep. That's the only, those are the only things I've eaten since Sunday night. I haven't eaten yet today.

It's 4 p.m. local time for you guys in on the East Coast. And you're going to listen to 300 years old. Potentially, Trent, potentially. That's what this guy's telling me. It reeks a little bit of when Kramer decides to sleep in shifts. He decides to sleep 15 minutes as opposed to sleeping for a whole night. And obviously that doesn't end up too great. But honestly, the thing, and I'm sure Lurch will agree with this,

if you can do this and not have a murderous rage boil up inside of you to the point where you like don't like you just like you have to eat like then I think there's nothing wrong with it fasting is clearly really good for you I just don't have the self-control to do it I don't think no no it be impossible I agree I agree I think that it's not the worst decision I actually listened to the podcast so that's why I brought it up in the beginning. I just wanted you to make sure that you were confirming that that's where this is coming from. And I am a part of that. Originally, yes, 100%.

I listen to Joe Rogan, and unfortunately, I think a lot of people do this. We just, like, listen to what this guy says and all the people on the show, and we take it as fact. I do that with fucking Neil deGrasse Tyson. I do it with all these people. They can just come on there swindle, bamboozle, who'd wink my brain, and I'm just now, like, a prisoner of what they just said to me for the rest of my life. It is dangerous. It's very dangerous. Like, Joe Rogan knows, like, a little about a lot of things, but, like, he, is in no shape of form, like an expert on any of the things he talks about. We just like put all

of our hopes and dreams into this guy. But the thing I would say, though, is that he's not the one talking the whole time. Like, he's luckily, he's just sort of prodding the other people. So it is a mix of like how much you want to trust them, which I think you could argue that about anything. Like anybody, we say all the time, anybody who comes to our show for like irrefutable facts about golf and golf history, you're probably going to get fucked in conversations with all your friends because we we don't really know like lurch was throwing out things about olympic funding and we just we don't know anything about that whatsoever so it's kind of like that with everything go back and listen to our conversation about el paso texas and

like we just kept talking about el paso and he was just hundreds and hundreds of miles away from el paso this is not this is not an important no there are a lot of interesting things in that podcast there's a lot of different ways so i guess you have like to biological clock, right? And there's a lot of different ways to reset that or bring it down. One of them seems to be you just eat once a day. And I find it funny that like, I mean, I guess, like I would love to know just really how healthy it is to wait all day and then eat like a bacon, cheeseburger and French fries at the end of the night. Like that's your only form of nutrition is like eating like a chicken bacon ranch sandwich from Subway and then you go

to sleep. Like, like there has to be some like aspect of like waking up eating an avocado with your waiting a couple hours, then having some fruit, then waiting a couple hours and eating a steak and then calling it a night. But, I mean, he claims that that's just not what you're supposed to do. What is the calorie count that you should have in that meal? It doesn't say that. It's more just like generally this is significantly, like this timing

and way of doing it is significantly healthier than what has become the standard, which is eat three pretty big meals a day. people snack a little bit in between and that's just accepted as life and that's pretty much his main point and so me going into it so people have a little bit of a background like if i were some pretty healthy guy and then i made this jump that would be pretty wild but i literally live in my opinion as like unhealthily as i can possibly live i stuff myself every meal of the day especially at dinner my favorite thing is to do like a late dinner pound a few drinks eat until i'm far beyond full and then then order like ice cream and then within like a half hour go to sleep and be like hell yeah that was awesome and like i mentioned last time like i have some heart disease history in my family especially on my mom's side so it's always been a little bit in the back of my mind like at like at some point i need to think about what i'm consuming in my lifestyle so that i decrease the chances of just dying

randomly from a heart attack at age like 45 to 50 or whatever um so if i can minimize that and then i've always said like yeah at some point i'm gonna really worry about that but i'm 25 and then it was like, oh, I'm 30. Well, now it's like, oh, I'm 34. So if you don't do it at some point, I'm just going to increase the chances that I'm very unhealthy. And the way that he was speaking, it was like, I didn't have. And to be honestly, like, I would almost rather not eat than force myself into this world where I need to really watch what I eat and eat healthily all the time. Like, I can't do that. I don't enjoy healthy food. I think it sucks. And that just ruins my whole life. So this seemed like something. And what I'm doing is currently very drastic.

What I think it's probably going to end up boiling out to, hopefully in the end, is pretty standard like intermittent fasting, which is like the 16-8 rule where you pretty much go 16 hours without eating. And then during those eight hours, you can really eat. I mean, not anything that you want, but you can eat a little bit more liberally. And that's fine. And so I think that's probably where it'll settle out. And you're right. You need to get like certain nutrients.

There's things that you don't want to miss. And by never eating, you're going to miss certain stuff. So I need to be more conscious of that. But this was like the last three or four days. I was on the road, traveling. all the time. I wasn't going to be able to go pick up supplements and shit. So I was like, how about I just stop eating? And surprisingly, I was not as like pissed off and like hangary as I thought I would be. I was fine. And there were moments where I was very, very, very hungry and

have been. But ultimately like listening to this podcast, listening to David Sinclair, it was like, no, just be like, just be mentally tougher, dude and just like don't be hungry. Like, guess what? Just don't be hungry. Your body's actually not like dying and starving and you're going to die if you don't eat. That's just your brain being used to eating all the time because marketing and because you've been shoving shit down your throat. There are a lot of skinny, healthy people that are mentally tough enough to just not eat right now. So how about you just don't eat? That's pretty much what I've been telling myself. And it's been working very easily.