Fore Play - Finish In Style

Episode Date: December 28, 2021

The 2021 finale show has all one would expect: Tiger hypotheticals heading into The Year Of The Tiger; Depressing movie reviews from Don’t Look Up and The Matrix; Christmas Day food consumption reca...ps from Lurch; Home improvement solicitations from Frankie; renewed gaming obsessions from Trent; Winter golf losses for Riggs. We describe the rush of getting towels for Christmas. In From The Gallery, we ponder if Charlie Woods has played Augusta and if practice shots before real shots would really lower our scores. Let’s finish strong.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I'm at Bristol Sports. It is the last show of the year. Kind of a weird start. Frankie's being ominous, I would say, down in the bottom right corner of my screen. I'm not being ominous. I think you're being an ominous.
Starting point is 00:00:22 I think it's an ominous start. I'm not on anything. It's the end of Christmas, and, you know, it's just a sad time. Obviously, there's doom and gloom after Christmas, especially with everything going on. So I don't know. I'm not the cheeriest, like, happiest person on the planet. Well, you're never going to be that. I watched a couple doom and gloomy, doom and gloomy movies lately, actually.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Same. Same. Holy heck. Dude, I watched that Don't Look Up, which was extremely, I mean, I know that's kind of make it. I even know what the fuck it was. I just came across it randomly. And then I looked it up on Twitter after.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And obviously, people were going nuts about it. And then since there's the new Matrix movie, I rewatched the, Matrix from the beginning, which I got to say, the first time I went through the whole Matrix situation, which was late 90s, early 2000s, I think I was a non-observant, like, idiot who just loved the action and it was really cool. Now I'm watching it and like taking it all in. Boy, is that the most depressing shittiest fucking series of movies in terms of the overall theme maybe ever created? I mean, it's put me in a pretty bad. I'm looking at everything. Like, it's just not real. And these motherfuckers are plugged into a little tube and they're hanging
Starting point is 00:01:29 out in a little bowl of fucking of muck from the alien AI people. It's just been a dark couple days, man. Don't look up was maybe the worst movie, most depressing movie as a close that there's ever been created. Because it's
Starting point is 00:01:45 a comedy kind of but it's too close to home so it's making fun of you to your face but at first you're laughing but then you're like wait I'm living in this world and by the end it's just a straight horror film so that that film was too much for me on a post-Christmas kind of evening where everything should have been hunky-dory,
Starting point is 00:02:05 roses, candy canes, and little kids smiling. No, that was like going to bed. I was like, I need to have like a melatonin to knock me out because my brain is erasing right now. Dude, about halfway through, halfway through I realized what was like, I knew obviously how they were going to end it. I was like, oh, they're going to, I get what's going on. And the rest of the movie, I was like, oh, fuck. Well, in every other, like, dumb movie that's ever been created,
Starting point is 00:02:29 it's like at that final hour, people, somebody saved in this one to ruin it for everybody, not even. Yeah, spoil over. That's going to be me. You're going to ruin it for me. Go ahead. Put your earmuffs on, Trent. Put your earmuffs on.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I've seen some things on Twitter. I've seen some things on Twitter. It does not go well for the gang. And it's just, it's something. That's an Adam McKay movie, right? Yeah. It's just too real. and for me with space and knowing, like, we are nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:58 We're just, we are so meaningless on this earth. It's fucking crazy. We are just a bunch of atoms and molecules put together to somehow become these human fucking walking, whatever we are. I don't even know what we actually are. We're no different than the table that I have this microphone on, right? Like, this table is just a bunch of molecules and, and, you know what I mean? and particles put together. If you look at the DNA of this fucking table,
Starting point is 00:03:27 there's probably some similarities between us and this table. At one point, it was like a tree that was a lot. I'm telling you right now, we're just nothing. And then someone said something to me on Twitter the other day. Because people DM me scary shit all the time. Like, do you realize that you're just, like, one and whatever? I got one the other day that was like, have you ever thought about how you just regurgitate whatever your brain is telling you to say?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Like, you don't actually, your mouth and your voice is not actually you. It's just your brain. Like, there's processes going on in your brain to fire off certain thoughts and feelings and sayings. And you're just regurgitating them out to people. You don't even have control over that. Your brain has control over you. It's a living organism.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You're just the skeleton that it sits in. Are you understanding that? You think your mouth have like a mind of its own? No, but you think of like, oh, I'm going to speak now. This is like how, like, you know, I'm actually saying the skeleton and not the brain. How come you're not the brain? Why are you just the skeleton? Why can't you be the brain?
Starting point is 00:04:29 I don't know. It's, it's its own thing, right? Like, we are just where we're prisoners of our own mind. It is just like electrical like firings that are going on that are producing who you actually are. This color. I'm looking at this flag. This isn't actually anything. It's just the way we're perceiving this to be green, right?
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's just a bunch of, of light going into our retinas. and we're just perceiving this in our brain as green. In reality, in reality, it's actually not anything. No, no, no, no. Don't do that. There is no spoon, Frank. You guys had a weird Christmas, huh? This is weird.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah. I get to this is how. There's a lot of downtime around Christmas. There's a lot of downtime, I feel like. I feel like, I mean, we're always off the rails with this type of stuff, but you're really off the rails this time. Well, I've had seven days to be watching these documentaries, and that movie really fucked me up.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah. Riggs, I saw, sorry. No, go ahead. I was saying Riggs, I saw like you were with family and whatnot. And so when you're with family and I was to, like my brother's kids are screen, you know, at the end of the day, it's like movie time in a sense. So it's this kind of just like dwindled down. You don't hear kids screaming and just kind of quiet time.
Starting point is 00:05:40 And so that's why the movie jumped in for us. But man, yeah, it was a different Christmas, T. It was, it's a scary world out there. And I'll tell you what, the movie don't look up, really shed some light on. that. I don't think I'm going to watch it now. That sounds so depressing. It'll ruin you, dude. We, you know what we did. I reintroduced something into my life this week and this weekend that I hadn't done in a very long time. We started playing Halo again. I didn't watch any movies. I didn't do any of that stuff. The Halo Infinite, I guess came out earlier this month. I didn't even know that. But I'm at my brother's place and we hooked that up and me, him and a buddy. We played for 10 hours yesterday. And it was and I'm and I'll take it. And I'll take it. you what, it wasn't enough. When I'm done here, I will be walking into that living room and firing it back up and playing it again. It is so, let me tell you, so I've been playing war zone for the last
Starting point is 00:06:31 two years and that game sucks. I'm here to tell you, that game is so hard and so ridiculous. My feet hit the ground when you drop into Caldera or Verdansk or whatever, wherever you're dropping into, as soon as my boots hit the ground, I'm dead. And it's over and I got to go to the gulag. And if I don't, if I'm not successful there, then the game is just over. Halo, it's just respawns. You run in there, you kill, either you stay alive or you die. If you die, you're back in five seconds and you're back playing again. It's way more fun. And I just can't believe, I'm so grateful for this new Halo that I don't ever have to play Warzone again because I'm just going to keep playing Halo and I'm never, ever dropping into whatever map is in war zone,
Starting point is 00:07:10 ever again. Now, I got a question for you. Sure. You asked, hey, you know, for Play, can we do this a little earlier today? Now, was this in any way correlated around the fact that you and your boys are going to jump on the halo sticks at like 1230 or 1 or something like that? Yeah. No, I actually do. Did it back turn at all? Did it back turn at all? No.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Dinner tonight is 7 p.m. I mean, it is. I just wanted to make sure. It's fucking not even noon yet there. I just wanted to make sure we weren't recording anywhere near when I was going to go to dinner. But now that I've, you know, reemerged in the halo space, yeah, it's going to give me a few extra hours once we get done to do it. To play. The hours go by like that when you're playing.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And you're just having fun. I'm very excited about because now when I get back to New York, I'm just going to download the game and I'm going to spend my spare time doing that. Poor Lurch has to schlep his entire life and drones and his diet all around the country trying to get these meetings in and Trent's baking in like seven hours to play Halo with the boys before dinner. An infinite amount of time of Haley's are correct. Yeah, exactly. I need hours.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I need at least five hours. to feel like I've played tonight. I agree with that, actually. Owens Mixers, all right? This next, whatever we talk about next, God only knows, brought to you by Owens Mixers, which I had quite a few of over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:31 My boys back home, you know, they love getting into the mixer game, especially when I, you know, Santa Riggs brings this stuff around. We got our own transfusion mix. I saw a lot of people tweet and post and tagging us in photos. They got the mixer for Christmas,
Starting point is 00:08:45 put it in their fridge, made a nice cocktail. It's a big drinking time, Christmas-e, especially if it comes on the weekend. like that, you got like Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. By like midday Friday, time doesn't even seem real. Nobody knows what week it is, what day. And then you've got the whole New Year's week coming up after. So it's sort of you're floating through this like two week period of just unknown.
Starting point is 00:09:07 There's no structure to it. So people were kind of drinking and grabbing cocktails at weird hours. It's almost like you're at the airport where time doesn't matter. People were just making cocktails, grabbing beers. Saw a lot of these puppies made. So do yourself a favor. favor, support us, support Owens. Go to Owensmixtures.com. Check out their store locator. Go pick some up. Go puff.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Boom. Same day. Amazon next day. CVS's Publix. All kinds of good spots. They've got them. So big thanks to Owens Mixers. I had some Palomas.
Starting point is 00:09:36 I've been on a little bit of a tequila kick lately. I kind of shuffle through the old liquor that I like. Sometimes I go through like a brown liquor phase and I'm drinking scotch, which I don't usually last very long on that one. I know Trent thinks nobody likes that stuff. But I've been on a tequila, tequila kick lately. And so the Palomas have been really good. So I actually don't have any of the grapefruit and limes available because I drank them all.
Starting point is 00:09:55 But I do have these to show people, which is grapefruit or make cucumber and lime. Nice little green touch to it. So we like Owens mix of. All right. Speaking of video games, Trent and I have dove, dove, dove. Yep. Dived. Dived. Dived. Diven. Diven. Dive and dive. Dove back into PGA tour, two K.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Dip, duck, and dive. Dove? we dove into PGA Tour 2K21. You know, we got our feet wet again. We were doing some Divot Derby, which is one of the more fun games on the planet where it's 20 guys playing PGA Tour 2K21 fastest in the hole, wins, and then they knock off people that don't get in, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:10:39 you get to a winner, right? You know, we're playing innocently just on a Christmas break night. You know, I texted Trent and said, do you want to hop on the sticks? And he said, yes. And we had, you know, 1,100 people watching. We have the greatest fans on YouTube ever, which was very nice to see everyone again.
Starting point is 00:10:55 And all of a sudden, someone just threw 20 bucks into the chat. And I didn't even know what that meant. It just said $20, and they wrote Merry Christmas. And it's just their name is highlighted on the top. And everyone was like, what was that? And money started rolling in. And I just have to give a shout out to this man. Now, we know what we think he is a man,
Starting point is 00:11:14 because he goes by the name Jacob Galindo, is what we were calling him, the Galindo King. This man dropped well over $500 over the two streams of his own hard-earned money into this chat. For us to just see his comments. And at one point he goes, if Trent hits the green, another 150,
Starting point is 00:11:32 and Trent hit the green. It was just, it was money coming in like you wouldn't fucking believe. And I just want to give him a shout at it. I said on the stream that I would shout him out on the podcast and what we are doing with this money, we've raised $1,900 so far through two streams.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Right? Like six hours worth of playing video games, $1,900. We are going to send that money to the First T program. So the First T program for anyone doesn't know, they do great work in all these communities across the country. There's a ton of them. And a lot of people in the golf community grow up working at First T's. We saw that in the chat that a lot of people's brothers work at the First T. They donate their time. Shout out to our first Barsal Classic champions, Anthony and Rocco were at the time, First T Philadelphia, full-time employees.
Starting point is 00:12:16 So it's, they do great work. Because honestly, it's not, when you think of like, oh, giving money to a golf charity, that seems like insane because golf is made of so much money and it's so expensive. But they do so much more than just golf. They teach these kids. They go into like, you know, hard-pressed cities and all these places that they'll bring kids to a golf course. They'll teach them a lot more than just golf. They'll teach them about life and manners and, like, how to, like, be respectful and all these things. And you hear all these amazing success stories of people coming out of hard,
Starting point is 00:12:46 places and they say that the first T program was the reason why they were where they are like CEOs and all this stuff. So it's not just about golf and we found out too, $110 by as a brand new junior set. So in two streams we got we got
Starting point is 00:13:01 19 or whatever it was call it 19 sets for kids. Did I do that right? About maybe 17? Maybe 17 sets. Somewhere around there. Yeah. That's amazing. It is. Really good. We didn't know that How much per set?
Starting point is 00:13:17 What is it per set? 110. Per junior set. So yeah, you probably got 15, 16 sets or so? Which is nuts. And we haven't even promoted yet. So what we're going to do is we're going to do a whole in one challenge at some point in the near future. You got to get Trent back in.
Starting point is 00:13:29 We've got Lurch and Riggs involved. We're going to play par three. We'll probably start on the cradle. They have that in PGA 2K. So we'll try and get a hole in one and we won't stop playing until we get one. We can use that as one of our donation, telethons, whatever you want to call it, gameathons. And we'll see how much we can race to the first T.
Starting point is 00:13:49 It's one of those things that just happened very naturally, and I want to see how much we can race to the first T program. I think it's a great program. Program, is what we're calling it on the stream. We have one in here in Ismadow, and I know a lot of people that have, you know, donated their time there. So just wanted to give that a shout out.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Good work, fellas. Way to, you know, somehow stumble your ways backwards into a nice thing you guys did. That's great. That's really, I had no idea what the thing. When you sent me a screenshot on the group chat, I didn't know what was going on. I was hanging out of my buddies back home. And all of a sudden you guys had like $500.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I said, what, how did you do that? Is that like monopoly money? What is that? And it's just real American U.S. dollars that people are sending you. So way to figure that. Didn't even know it was a YouTube feature. We had no idea. Just started happening.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I'll tell you what. We're not turning it off. We're not turning it off. Right. Let's see what we can do. I mean, at one point I texted transit said, we're going to be just rich. Like this is money. If we keep hitting greens.
Starting point is 00:14:44 We're rich. Yeah. Yeah, we'll do that. I don't know when we'll do the whole in one challenge, but it'll be sometime within, I would guess, in the next month or so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But I don't know. I do want to get back into video games. I want to get back into video games. The hard part is our schedules, because I'm two hours behind you guys. It is tough. It's just tough. It's like,
Starting point is 00:15:02 when you guys start playing, it's still sunny out here, I'm on a golf course or something. Like, why would I do that? I also don't have the new systems yet, which sucks. What is the new systems? I've got the 360.
Starting point is 00:15:12 No, oh, dude, what? Listen, I don't know anything about systems either, but I know that's an old one. Do you text with T9 or whatever? There's the Xbox 1 and then PS5. Are those the two newest ones? PS5. Yeah, PS5, yeah, and the Xbox.
Starting point is 00:15:28 One? Yep. All right. So, I mean, I'm one system behind. I guess when you're a kid, though, that's like still being on the N64 and somebody's got, I guess, Xbox. I don't know. Well, no.
Starting point is 00:15:39 I actually think it's Xbox Series X, is that's what Jake just said. Yeah, your Tuesday. behind because I have the Xbox one. Me too. So it's PS5 and Xbox Series X. The Xbox one is a whole, dude, 360, you might as well. I mean, you guys would be playing Tetris on that thing.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Pong, what are you playing? Pong. I will say they, I feel like they used to come out with a new system like every three years or something, and now they come out with one every decade. It feels like it's a lot different. I just, yeah, I didn't have a, you know, I, I just, I usually get it around. and I haven't gotten anything this year.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Maybe I'm, maybe I'm too old for the good Christmas presents. I think I've reached that age. You know, I only opened one box of presents this year. Also, a lot of people were in COVID protocol. So I didn't see a lot of family on Christmas, which is probably why I'm so dark and gloomy also.
Starting point is 00:16:28 A lot of people in COVID protocol around here. And I opened one box of presents on Christmas, one box, one little box. And when you opened it up, you knew it was like the box that someone had bought from, like, you know, the UPS store. It wasn't even the box.
Starting point is 00:16:45 It wasn't even, it wasn't a good enough present to come in a box worth having their image on the outside, right? So it was just a white box. And then inside was fucking wrapping paper. I was like, Jesus Christ, I opened it up. It was fucking socks, man. It was, it was all those, you know, I like wearing those crazy socks. I'd do the pant lift.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So I will say they were cool socks. They were Avengers socks. So every, every sock was a new Avenger logo. So I'll be wearing those on the golf course for sure. But, man. you know, PS5, Xbox,
Starting point is 00:17:16 Series X would have been nice, but I got socks, which are nice socks, but. I had a similar experience because, yeah, times have definitely changed because,
Starting point is 00:17:23 you know, I remember getting an N64, and that was the biggest thing that had ever happened to me in my life at that moment. And you get two games with it. I think we got like Wave Runner, and then you end up getting
Starting point is 00:17:35 Gold Nite at some point. And the N64 just changed my life. And it really put ridges in my brain. Like I remember that moment. and I'll remember it until the day that I die. This time around, I had a very similar experience that Frankie had. I had one gift that I got, and I opened it, and it was towels. We both got something we can come in.
Starting point is 00:18:02 But I'll tell you that. I'll tell you this. Welcome to the show. I'll tell you this, though. Times have really changed, and this is how I'm. knew, I was fucking excited about those towels, man. Yeah, man. I was like, I needed towels.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I only have, like, I don't have nearly as many towels as an adult should have. So now I have, I think I got two more towels. We probably doubled the amount of towels that I have. And I was just like, I'm so excited about these towels. And that's when I knew things are different around Christmas time now. Your old towels, you wouldn't believe what they look like. Oh, I mean, they're pieces of cardboard. I can't even, I can't do anything with it.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Smash him over his knee. Let's get those towels out. I think you should still be a two towels, but now you got freshies. If they're cardboard, let's just throw them out. All right. Sometimes you get into this mode
Starting point is 00:18:53 where you're just used to your own towels, right? Maybe the towels at your family's house or the towels at your apartment, you just don't switch them out. Then you go to a place where someone had just recently purchased new towels or maybe they splurged on really expensive towels.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I'm dealing with this with my fiancee's sister, that their house, they have this towel. They must have spent a shit ton of money on these towels. They're these stretching. it says bed bath and beyond on them. You knew that they were like a nice brand, like something about them that was more expensive than just your average towel.
Starting point is 00:19:19 That's just a white, a green, a yellow, whatever the colors. Dude, this thing was stretchy where like if you put it around your body, it's stretched all around you and it was warm and long, went from ankles to neck. Dude, I was walker up being like, this is a Rolls-Royce of towels. I don't know what I've been using my whole life,
Starting point is 00:19:38 but they're fucking rat tails. I am living. living in this thing. For you with towel time, the fact that... Well, dude, because sometimes you get that towel that's barely getting around the waist and that things, and you're showing a good bit of upper thigh. And so that thing's like, it's the whole thing's wet after you get through like a fourth of your body and then you're just trying to dry the rest of your body with a wet towel.
Starting point is 00:20:02 It's the same towel. And I don't understand why they change the size from a bath towel, like one that you dry off after a shower and a beach towel. Like, why are those sizes different? Like, a beach towel is huge. And I agree with Lurch. I love it because you can, even for the big guys, you can get it all the way around and you're good. But then sometimes, yeah, these bathroom towels or shower towels, they're nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:25 I don't understand why the sizes are different. They're nothing. They're nothing. No, towels do make a difference. But T, now that you have these, so I assume in your New York City apartment, you'll have four towels. You'll have two cardboards that have just been through the test of time. They've seen it all, man. If those towels could talk, man.
Starting point is 00:20:46 That would be a horrible. Our DNA is not much different than that towel, for sure. There's a lot of DNA on that towel. All right, all right. So that's my question. Now, are those towels going to stay in the rotation? Are you going to get rid of those towels? They're staying in the rotation.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Oh, now if you have a guest, what kind of towel are they getting, depending on the guest? I don't have guests. Who the fuck has a guess? You have somebody that a buddy that comes to town. Staying with you. Oh, they're getting the new towel. They'll get a new towel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I'm a generous person in that way. So what will you be using the old towels for? Maybe some water spills on the floor of the bathroom. You use those up to soap. Or just the rotation. Like your newer towels get like you use them. You don't want to necessarily do the laundry with them yet or wash them out yet. So then you just kind of go back.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Then you feel like you don't have to do laundry as often. Now you got like six towels instead of. two in the rotation. Throw them on the ground too. You know, step on them. That's right. Riggs is right. They'll just make it into the rotation.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And I'll just be like, oh, I remember this towel. It'll just be longer, you know, periods in between. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:21:51 this one at a while must be clean. Great. Yeah. I'm hoping for a better. So we're supposed to be celebrating Christmas or after New Year's once everyone's out of COVID protocol. So I'm sure I'll get something.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Because I got, I got nice stuff for other people. So, you know, I kind of want to see what I got, you know, I have some stuff waiting for people. That's nice gifts.
Starting point is 00:22:09 So, but it's not about that. You know, it's about seeing your family happy. Clearly, it's about that for you. No, it's not. It's a part of the season. I want to know what, what are you guys? And we've all experienced this, obviously, as golfers. But what would you say?
Starting point is 00:22:19 And I don't know if any of you got anything golf related for Christmas this year. We're very spoiled when it comes to golf. We already have everything under the sun. We couldn't be more lucky and blessed when it comes to golf equipment. Thank you, Taylor made. We're Taylor Made athletes. But what was your, what would you say is the ultimate gift to yet waking up on Christmas morning, golf related, because you know our listeners woke up
Starting point is 00:22:44 on December 25th and they got some great fucking shit. I saw people getting like SIM 2 drivers. I thought that was above and beyond. I mean, if someone's getting you a SIM 2 driver for Christmas, that better be the only thing you're getting. And it might come with like a you owe me for the next three months. You're probably, if you're getting that from your girlfriend or wife or something, you're probably handing out massages to her for the next fucking.
Starting point is 00:23:09 until 4th of July, because that seemed way above and beyond, you know, I would always think growing up, you got a couple sleeves of balls from really nice balls. That was always really exciting. And then, you know, in the climates that, you know, Midwest or up in the Northeast, like, you don't usually get to really play golf until March or so. So now for the next two, three months, you're like marking your balls. You're all excited to use them. You get out there and lose them in the first fucking nine holes, obviously. But I always thought like a fresh box or a couple sleeves of balls was really good. I've seen these people get drivers now.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I never got anything like a brand new driver. I always remember running downstairs one year and I was young playing, you know, playing golf. I was probably in sixth or seventh grade and we were playing all the time with our buddies. And we would all go to Eisenhower Park and hop the fence behind the baseball fields and do that whole thing. And what I, and I remember one year running downstairs, it was Christmas time and Santa had just come.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And I saw and they had it all set up, but they had a, push cart set up and I thought that was like the coolest thing because I was like whoa what is that contraption like these huge wheels and something I'm like oh shit and like I didn't really know what it was at first and then I realize you could put your golf bag on there and like well you go so much that like you can push this and it was like heavy duty fucking tractor wheels and they're like you could roll it over all sorts of stuff and I thought that was like the coolest thing because it was big and it took up a lot of part of the living room I always remember that as like a big Christmas golf gift like going up to my buddies who had to always get like the little
Starting point is 00:24:35 shitty pull ones at Eisenhower because they didn't want to carry their bag and I had the two wheels and it would fall over and I had this heavy duty three wheel. The two back wheels could literally go over you know lava if they wanted to and I just felt so cool. I'm like look I can push it out of hill and it won't fall down. Yeah I remember that being such a cool golf gift. It was crazy when you'd come running down the stairs as a kid and you'd be like dude Santa this guy just showed up my house and delivered all these gifts like it was it's insane This year, my brother at ES2 kids are like, I have this old train system, Lionel train system. And we found it in my brother's basement.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I set that up for him. But it is like a magical run down the stairs, Santa. And then my parents would always hide gifts or it would be like you'd get that one big present. So I was never really a golfer growing up. So it'd be usually like hockey equipment or something like that. And you'd come down the stairs and there'd be like a card. And then you'd have to like go to the kitchen to read another note. and then maybe you go out to the garage or whatever
Starting point is 00:25:37 and there's where your gift would be. It was always more like a game for that one big gift. But yeah, I would say a driver's a massive gift. But I feel like, yeah, one club is kind of a gift. So it would be like a putter or a driver would be like the big, big gift that you're going to get that Christmas. Shoes would be a big one. I remember getting shoes and then you'd like start preparing your outfits
Starting point is 00:25:59 for your first few rounds out and matching them with like your shoes what would look good because you'd be so jacked up to play and you couldn't play anywhere for a while. And that's, we're getting into that dead season too. And like the next like two months is like the dead, dead season, not so much for Riggs, but for everybody here on these coasts. Where you're just, you're looking outside and you're like, oh man, you start picking up the club and like just like massage you in the grip.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And you're like, dude, I'm going to be good this year. And you kind of go through those rhythms of life. And like, dude, I've got it. I've got it. Then you go out. Especially because for the next couple months, you're going to like watch guys play in Hawaii. They're going to be playing in Florida. And it looked, they're making it look so.
Starting point is 00:26:34 easy like Louis Eustahousins out there just Oh yeah take it straight back straight through And just hit it down the fairway like I'm gonna it looks easy I'm gonna be sick this year and then you know Obviously it all comes fucking falling apart and really best golf gift I ever got I actually got a couple years ago My aunt took screenshots of when we the two times that we met Tiger And turned them into fridge magnets and they're both on my refrigerator
Starting point is 00:26:57 So every time I go into the kitchen I see you know us meeting him at Pebble and then us meeting him in Australia and it just brings back fantastic memories. She did not, if people are wondering, she did not use the screenshot after he asked me where we're stationed, where I look like I'm, I don't know, like, what planet I'm on.
Starting point is 00:27:14 She used like a very nice of me smiling, looking at Tiger Woods, and then the other one of me giving him a fist bump in Australia. That's obviously very specific to me. It's not a golf club or anything like that, but I thought that was very thoughtful, and I see them pretty much every day in my life, and I love seeing them.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Awesome. Yeah. Absolutely awesome. I saw a couple funny videos of this one kid got a SIM 2 driver and he pulled it out of the box and everyone was like, whoa, and he goes, it's lefty. And they pan over to the dad and he's like, why the fuck is it lefty? He moved over to the wrong one. And then there was another one where a dad got a new putter and he's like putting around, like swinging it around in front of the tree and you're like, wow. And then they pan to him just in the snow and he had built the little runway, the line.
Starting point is 00:28:01 And then I just drilled a hole. hole into the ground and it just like bounces on the concrete drain like a tennis ball into it or something like that yeah just anything that he could have hit into a hole he just wanted to with that new putter so yeah there's nothing there's no better feeling i'm a huge are you guys um exposed gifts in the morning uh when you're younger or do you like them wrapped because i'm a big fan of um when a when a kid runs down and he walk and like like for me i all the big gifts were all exposed not wrapped right so like everything was already done and made, whether it was like the drum set was already set up
Starting point is 00:28:37 or like the PlayStation was already out of the box and put on the table where you could just grab it and go. Like you didn't have to open up a, there was no surprise underneath. It was more like you walked down and you saw it all. It was rare for us to have an exposed gift. Okay. Usually had to be, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:52 if it was something huge and monumental, it might be exposed, but we also would do, my dad always implemented like a we rotate around and each person opens one gift at a time. so everyone can sort of be involved in the gift and then somebody can tell the story about them getting it or whatever. So we always kind of took our sweet time with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Yeah, we always, it was always wrapped. I don't think we ever had anything exposed. Like when we got the N64, it was wrapped and it was still in the like N64 box. He had to rip off the wrapping paper and then scream and excitement. Yeah, that's, I think there's no wrong answer there. There's not. We would have, we would do stockings. And if it was exposed, it would kind of be hidden where I was saying before, like no cards or
Starting point is 00:29:31 whatever. But I remember we, so every, like my brother and I, you'd pick out your chair and that's where you were going to open gifts and that's where your stocking would be kind of on that chair. And like I remember one year I got a new goalie stick and it was like attached to a string in my stocking and I pulled it out and then the stick was just under my seats. I didn't see it. But I like the kind of the art of surprise. It's nice. Yeah, it was really good. It's great. Christmas is just the best. I mean, it's just such a great holiday. And to Riggs's point, it does feel like there was just a lot of time
Starting point is 00:30:05 hanging out, which was awesome. There's a lot of time. There's just an infinite amount of time. We played a couple rounds of golf. We had good weather when I was home and stayed the list, which is nice. Lost my brother twice, which never happened. So that was a bummer. Game was going downhill a little bit, so I got to figure that out. I just bit my fucking lip. You know, when you feel something and you're just like, oh, I'm trying to gnaw
Starting point is 00:30:22 gnaw on this thing, and then you rip it and then you just regret that? Why did I do that? I've been burning the roof of my mouth a lot lately. I don't know. You guys ever do that? Not like, not consistently all the time. Yeah. Like never on a bad stretch.
Starting point is 00:30:38 30 years. Yeah. I don't know if I just like my judgment's off for the last six months. It really. A couple of months, I, I don't, I don't really, like, I don't drink hot coffee anymore. So I, I don't have like hot drinks all that often. So it doesn't happen to me. A couple months ago, though, speaking of biting your lip, I was on a bad stretch of biting the side of my,
Starting point is 00:30:57 of the inside of my mouth. Like, I'd be chewing on food, and I'd catch the inside of my, like, the left side of my cheek. And it's like, damn, like, I've been doing this for three decades and I still can't figure it out. Yeah, no, I just bit just skin off my lip. Yeah, I think you get that little, like, kind of like, flooding lip a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a little burn. It's a little burn. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:18 It's going to bother you for a week. Being on a hot stretch, though, of burning your mouth is insane. How mean? You just got to wait. Well, because once you burn it once, you have. Like it's burned for at least a couple days or like a week. It's really annoying. So how many.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Yeah. How many times were you burned it in the last month? Probably three times in the last six months maybe. Oh, yeah. You know, I feel like that's like when it happens, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:31:42 oh, fuck. Like you can't, you know you're in for probably like you said, three or four days of just discomfort and you're, you know, you're kind of always conscious of like what's, what's going on in your mouth and your mouth,
Starting point is 00:31:53 you know, something in your teeth or something burns or you get a little canker sore. Like, so now you've got. this burn roof. I think it's been like frozen pizza, right? We'll have a couple beers. We'll throw a frozen pizza in at night. And then you're so excited to eat at like 10 p.m. 11 p.m. Take a bite. That thing is just cooking still. And all, you know, a piece of pepperoni gets stuck to the roof of your mouth that's just boiling hot. And all of a sudden you got to, I don't know, you burn the roof of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:32:18 It sucks. I'm not happy about. You know, this is one of our products that we like to talk about. I don't know if we have them on today, but Ember, that coffee mug that we talk about all the time, I gave that to someone for Christmas. And it's just like going through all that technology, the fact that you pour it in, it tells you how hot the coffee is straight out of the pot. It was like 1905 degrees. And then you set the temperature in the mug to your desired temperature. And it brings the temperature down. How does that work? How do you get?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Like, I didn't understand that. like where it like it got it down to 138 and kept it there. That was nuts to me. So that's a really cool product. But yeah, that it saves you from burning the roof of your mouth. I guess you just turn the heat off, right? Crazy technology.
Starting point is 00:33:06 But it seemed as though like it seemed as though that it happened a lot faster than just naturally it going down. Like it was almost like it was doing something to get the heat to come. You know what I mean? Like you brew the coffee. It's 195 degrees and then you pour it in the cup. And then all of a sudden like three minutes. later was 135 when like I feel like typically it would say 180 for 10 to 15 minutes and you can't even think about sipping on it.
Starting point is 00:33:29 You know what I'm saying? Yeah, maybe they figure something out to cool it down, little fans or something. I don't know what they do, dude, but it was a fantastic product. You know who's figured it out is mattress firm, who's a big sponsor for Arizona Bowl this week, which everybody's going to be partaking and all kinds of activities and fun time. When are you guys coming in for that, by the way? Wednesday night. I'll be there.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I went like Wednesday afternoon. All right. I'm going to drive down Wednesday. I'll drive down Wednesday night. I want to go for the dozen trivia live thing. Is that Wednesday night? Yeah, it's Wednesday night at 8 p.m. I was looking at the schedule today.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Okay, yeah, I got to make it for that. I love that show. Yeah, I'm definitely. I know, me too. Mattress firm. America's got a problem. It's called junk sleep. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Junk sleep. We've talked a lot about junk food, what it leads to, eating frozen pizzas right before you go to sleep. Junk sleep is bad news. It just messes with your whole performance. your life, your recovery, your brain, your brain power, your ability to think and react and perform the next day and feel good about yourself and then you're supposed to do that day,
Starting point is 00:34:28 over day, over day. Mattress Firm, right? Thankfully, the sleep experts at Mattress Firm are able to help you unjunk your sleep and up your game. Mattress Firm is teamed up with Ford Play to sponsor the Arizona Scramble, which is Thursday morning and unjunk our sleep. Visit mattressfirm.com or go to a mattress firm location to meet with a sleep expert today. I rock a mattress for a mattress here in my apartment in Scottsdale.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I got it probably about a year ago when I moved in here. And I got to tell you. Laying down, right, and we've spoken a lot about this, but laying down, your day is finished. It's complete. You've successfully performed another day of just surviving, getting through when the sun came up and then the sun went down. You get to put on a movie, hopefully a more positive movie or a show. And all you have to do is just lie there for the next, what's call it five to like 10 hours. so however long you sleep, that experience, doing that every day, best part of the day,
Starting point is 00:35:23 you need that part to be comfortable. You need that part to be really as top of the line as it could possibly be because it's the only thing you really do for pretty much, not pretty much every day and about a third of your life. So if you live to be 80 years old, you know, I mean, we're talking 25, 30 years out here. You're just sleeping and you're not going to use a mattress for a mattress to sleep for A third of your life? When it's all said and done, outside of breathing, I suppose, sleeping is probably the number one thing you do over the course of your life.
Starting point is 00:35:58 What else are you doing for a legit, like Riggs is saying, if you live to 75, that's 25 solid years of slumber. You're not doing anything else that much except breathing. You have to have something that's comfortable. And again, that's a horrifying thing to think about just sleeping for that long. But it's true. So you need a comfortable mattress. Once you're my buddy Rob was just inputting healthcare data into a computer just every single day
Starting point is 00:36:21 for eight hours. I think he's doing that maybe more than sleeping if we're being honest. Well, if you got a mattress for a mattress he'd be sleeping better and more of them. Dude, I have a mattress. I was his Christmas. How was his Christmas? Did he have like a good Christmas? Probably fantastic. He's finally able to be around some happiness and cheer and smiling. The guy does not laugh at work. He doesn't laugh The guy has to love Christmas. He's like, oh man, there's this positive energy all over the places. Dude, I'm moving into a new house
Starting point is 00:36:46 and I just told, I had to break it to him that I don't think he can fit in the basement because I think the floors, he's too tall for the ceilings. I mean, the ceilings are like seven feet tall. He's like six foot. He's just way too tall. He's just a, he's a mongoloid. He's an absolute specimen of human being.
Starting point is 00:37:02 So he's like, oh, I can't wait to get in that basement. I was like, you're ain't going anywhere in that basement. Like, at all. You're going to get to capitated. I have a mattress for a mattress and it's, it's, I cannot wait to open it. It's been sitting in my sister's old room at my parents' house just up against a wall. And when they, when the guys from mattress from brought it, they had like three guys carry it up the stairs.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It was such a process because this mattress is so heavy and so elite and so incredible. It's like one of those like temper pedic incredible mattresses that I took the whole test. How firm do I want it? What side do I sleep on? Do I like to roll over when I sleep? Can I mean imagine the results of that test. Oh my gosh. Dude, and it comes in this.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Frankie Borelli's sleeping. Oh, they did not equate for the hours of dark Reddit I scroll for the hours and hours and hours of the night. Matchist firm probably just knows it can sense that. Yeah, it can. So, yeah, I can't wait to unveil that thing at the new house and put it on its bed frame and sleep on that thing because there is nothing better than getting a new mattress, man. It's such an important part of your life. So mattress firm.com visit that or go into a store. Ask for a sleep expert.
Starting point is 00:38:12 They're going to help you out. you dialed in on the sleeping front. A couple logistical notes here. This is our last show of the week, but we will be at the Arizona Scramble. We've got today, which is Monday. So hopefully folks have already watched this video. If you haven't, it's come out of the Barstall Classic Championship at Pinehurst.
Starting point is 00:38:29 What all goes into that, what that looks like. Clearly, Barstall Classic is a big thing that we do. We did 27 stops, 28 if you include the championship. 29 if you include the LTP. So that team puts on, obviously, the Barstall Classic team puts on a hell of a production. all over the country, pretty much once or twice a week from March all the way through October, November. And then it culminates at Pinehurst this past two years with a four-day championship. So we've got all the whole recap, drone footage, the winners, the cradle, all that is in the video.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So if you haven't seen that yet, go check it out. And then we have, on Wednesday, we have kind of a best of foreplay, crazy year. Yet again, it feels like we just keep getting more and more stuff done that we never, ever thought. we could have got done more situations, more people, players, personnel, whatever that we've met with, courses that we've seen places in the world that we've been and played golf at. So our best of video. And then starting early next week, which would be obviously after New Year's, rolling out a bunch of our tailor-made stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And then we've got midway through January. We're going to have the final two episodes of the band in travel series. So we obviously were defeated. Trent and I were defeated domestically for the first time by Team Frankie and Lurch. So last two rounds, we have Old McDonald and Banded Dunes where we come up with our own little game to kind of see who could post the best score in extreme wins. And obviously you get to look at those two courses. So from a scheduling front, that's what's coming up. And I thought I tore my MCL those two days, which was insane.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I mean, really- He tried to get a cart. You're the toughest man alive, Frankie. Toughest man alive. You bring me like all bullshit aside, dude. I'm not kidding you. I really thought I had a torn whatever. MCL, whatever happened to my knee, I thought for sure I'd have to go to the hospital and get surgery.
Starting point is 00:40:18 And to be clear, afterwards, you were just fine? Well, no, I came back and it's still hurt at the end, but like I just rested it for two weeks without really doing anything. And yeah, it kind of went away. So I think it was a hyper extension of the knee, just like Janus had. Yeah, two top tier athletes get hurt. People get hurt, you know? Same body type. When you're active, like the two of you guys.
Starting point is 00:40:42 guys, things are going to happen. That's right. Things are going to happen. Cost of doing business, baby. The best of his rigs was like, and so you were just like perfectly fine after that. And Frankie's number one roll dog, Taddy, was just shaking us at. He was just like, yeah, that's right. And then Frankie goes, Frankie gives it a very declarative, no.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I mean, no, I had to rest it for two. I did. That's what happened for the hyper extension of the knee. You have to rest it. Yonis came back in two weeks. Also, just to be clear to everyone, an undiagnosed hyper extension. Oh, yeah. No, there's no doctor.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Self-dicton. You guys knew off-camera. You guys knew off-camera I was in a bad place with that knee. You were. You were. I was in a bad place with that knee. No cameras around. Just sitting in my fucking room,
Starting point is 00:41:24 begging you guys for us to knock off that day. I'm glad you're okay. I was asking to get a recent update to make sure that you were able to walk and there wasn't any permanent damage. So I'm happy. Maybe. Maybe there is permanent damage. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:37 I haven't really done anything athletic since. My question that I was going to have to you guys, regarding safety on the golf course or looking after your body is what do you guys who tape up their fingers on the golf course do you think that's a harder move do you accept it when you watch a guy do that because i mean tiger woods does it so i feel like that's right but like i'm talking about my buddy and my buddy andrew that walks up and like we're on the first tee at fucking garden city and he's taping up his fingers what's like is that like uh is that almost like the guy who goes to the back tees and says you guys go ahead i'm going to
Starting point is 00:42:11 play from back here or no. What's it for? I don't even know what it's for. I guess the rub up, right? Rub or fingernail or something like that, yeah. But I would say like... I have no problem with the tape up. I have no problem with the tape up.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Especially as people get older. Like, shit, I might be in like a knee brace in a couple of years, you know? Yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, if you're like babying it and saying like, you know, faking an injury or just like taping up your ankle to like look cool, then yeah. But if there's a purpose to it, then I got no issue with it. I think those are two very different things, though. Like a knee brace is different than putting tape on your fingers, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And also the fact that it's an aesthetically looking, like Tiger Woods does it. And it's almost like people are doing it for the aesthetic of the fact that I'm out here to play golf. Tiger Woods does this to his finger. I'm about to approach this game than Tiger Woods does. Let me put a little medical tape on my finger before I hit this golf ball. And to me, like, I don't, I've been playing golf for a long time. I've never had anything where I need a tape. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:08 You're going to get through that round without the tape. the knee brace you might not get through the round without that knee brace, the tape sometimes does feel like, I don't want to say a fashion thing, but it's, I'm with you on that. And that's where I differ. Totally.
Starting point is 00:43:21 On like the fashion side, if you're doing it for that, then like, yeah, it's just a different type person. You know, it's like, okay,
Starting point is 00:43:27 it's like the same person that goes to the gym and like mandatory tapes up their ankles and wrists. And you're like, dude, you really don't have to do that. And so I think that's like just a fundamental. Like, if your buddy is that guy,
Starting point is 00:43:40 that's like, no, I got to look cool, so I need this. And then they also do like, you know, that like neck tape that goes on your body and down. You know what I mean? Like, and then they maybe have that like tight forearm underarmer like around their elbow. There's people like this. They're listening to the show. Totally. That's just not my style.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Totally. I mean, my body's so bad. Like, I could use a back brace and a few other items, but I'm not going to do that. And that's like a maybe I'm just too fat to play the game kind of thing that I have to get around. Dude, I had a buddy, I played football with who I really like and we're still friends, but who would put the underarmor sleeves on, the underarmor gloves on, the underarmor warmer, the under armor like over your head so it stays warm. He would have as much underarmor on as you could possibly have.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Never sniff the field. Just never even like never played, never was. He would always just stand on the sidelines with every bit of underarmor gear you could have. And that's just who he was. Like he's a great guy. but he would just, he would just wear all that stuff. He would probably be the type of guy who would put tape on his finger. Some people are just like that.
Starting point is 00:44:44 And no, I ask this question, and I'm not saying that I'm opposed to it, right? Like, I've never used the tape. I like to get flashy. I like, when I played baseball growing up, I like to try and look like Derek Jeter and Robinson can know where everything was perfect. Like, I always felt Derek Jeter the way his pants were over his cleats was the perfect, the perfect length of pants. And he always had his little things where he had the wristbands on and his hat was perfect.
Starting point is 00:45:08 and he'd wait for the fuck, he'd ask the umpire for the weight. I did that every fucking day when I was playing baseball. I'd ask the umpire for a second as I got into the batters box. It's all about aesthetics. Like I know that. I'm just asking if you guys put it in the same category as the guy, the hard o golfer.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I just didn't know what it fell in there. My general rule would be anything that you can justify as, well, Tiger Woods does it, then I think you're good. Like, I think, I think that's fine. I would say hockey, like, it was with the Gretzky tuck with us. If somebody was doing the Gretzky tuck,
Starting point is 00:45:37 and if you weren't a first liner and maybe the leading score on the team you just couldn't do it and you'd get some fourth line benders out to get like one shift to period they'd have the Gretzky tuck going and you'd just be like man that that sticks out
Starting point is 00:45:52 you want to try to just blend in when you're a fourth liner like you probably you have a different sport that's your A sport this isn't it pal and you're out there with the Gretzky tuck
Starting point is 00:45:59 is you would stick out people would try to run you through he would just tuck one side and kind of like always do just one side one side. And so, yeah, on the left side, I believe his jersey went all the way down to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:14 the bottom of his pants. And on the right side, he would tuck it into his hockey pants. And your hockey pants have a little kind of like a little shelf at the top that go way up. So, you know, you're tuck. If you're talking to your hockey pants, it's almost halfway up your ribs. And then the other one's all the way down. So it's a very noticeable. Your jersey was like at a fucking 90 degree slant all the way across yourself on the front
Starting point is 00:46:34 and the back. And then he had 99 there. So it was a very iconic look that people would try to replicate and they'd just be total benders out there. And you just couldn't do that. That's also like the guy in football who, if you have a neck roll, if you have a neck roll, you better be a motherfucker. Like you better be bringing the wood. You better be a linebacker.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Were you a neck roll guy, Lurch? I had a neck roll. Dude, I was like, because so hockey was, you know, my main sport. And there's so many bender looks in hockey. You got like that cage. The hangs way off your head, like the old like eagle, eagle brown leather gloves, the Nike skates. But in, so in football, anyways, hockey, I was like flexible, try to be a goalie. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:47:16 So in football, I wasn't overly like Jack, but I was a big body. I was probably six three, six four, and two 20. So I would just, I was sizable, but the neck roll added so much, I thought just like mustard. Just, you know, just a little bit more of just like, you know, don't walk with me. So I played D-end and tackle, and the neck roll, I think, made me considerably better. I didn't have it junior year. I added it senior year. And I think it added like 10 attribute skills to my game.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Like people were like, oh, man, that boy's big. Oh, people look at you different when you do that. Oh, they think that you are the dude. Oh, my God. I mean, people, because I was, I could run a little bit. So I was kind of just like an athletic pulling tackle. But then they see that and they're like, oh my God, this guy is like massive. And I was like, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:48:10 That's right. Think twice about this. But no, that was the neck roll of something that I added senior year. Yeah, that sticks out. That sticks out for sure. Oh, I'm looking at the Gretzky tuck right now. Yeah, I can see how, yeah, that's cool. I like that he did that.
Starting point is 00:48:24 If I ever find myself wearing a hockey jersey, I might do the Gretzky tuck. Speaking of a hockey jerseys, I had my first, my first, game with my new team so I told you guys I was offer sheeted from a new you jump ship you jump ship so I'm on the long island sauce now we've got the whole logo I got the jersey and we joined this new league with uh you know it's it's a higher skill level because I'm playing with higher skill leveled guys like they all played ice hockey and roller hockey growing up and um you know definitely more that I bit off more than I could chew with this team for sure. So I was playing in like the E division.
Starting point is 00:49:05 Now we're in the B division. And when I tell you, it's a whole new world, that doesn't even do it justice. I almost had a heart attack in this game, chasing the puck in the defensive zone. We lost 7-0 our first game and our team's good. Our goalie is elite, like making Sagan. I think the shots on goal were 47 to 8, right? And our team is solid. We played a professional roller hockey team.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Like we heard the kid on the other team that was taking the puck up As a pro roller hockey player plays like Team USA Sounds like might and scored hockey Where you get rumors in the locker room like Yeah Oh this kid's really good This kid I think one's a pro It's like bullshit
Starting point is 00:49:44 At one point I looked down the bench And it's Frankie Borelli on this song It was a B league hockey in Long Island Bro it was It was COVID protocol So we had a couple guys out So we only had 3D
Starting point is 00:49:57 And like two lines of offense and we are just gas. I'm looking down the bench at one point. Two guys are puking into garbage cans. The other team is as cool as a cucumber, just passing crisp tape-to-tap passes, blue line of blue line. I'm fucking chasing the puck.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I don't know where to go in the defensive zone. I'm puking in my mouth. I just need to get off the fucking rink. It was a bad, bad first game. We've actually gotten demoted to the league below us. That's how bad was. Like, they were like, hey, guys, like, that game didn't really count for you.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We're not even going to count it in the standings. Like you guys have a brand new season starting. You guys are so bad you're going to ruin this entire league up here. Bro, it was another level. It was another level. It was something I've never experienced before. And I've played three seasons of roller hockey. It's something I've never ever seen.
Starting point is 00:50:42 In the E league? In the E league? Yeah. Okay. So now this is B. And so where do you fit in on this roster? The E league? I didn't even know it went that.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, he slipped through that. I heard that one. You fart on the alphabet, man. Where on the roster? Where on the lineup? Do you fit it? the first, they had me on the first line because I was playing with the two best players. And they thought that, you know, and they were trying to hit me on these, like, these entries.
Starting point is 00:51:06 And they're like, you got to keep skating, dude, every single pass we hit you with is just an icing that. Like, you're just not, you're not going, you're not moving. Like, they'd see me and they'd fucking fire one. And I'd just watch it and go, oh, is that to me? And I'd reach out to go and fucking get it. And it'd just go down the fucking rank and it'd be an icing. They'd win the face off score top titty. And we'd be like, we'd be like.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't know what I just did. Yeah, I don't know. They're not loving their new recruit, eh? No. We'll see. So I texted them, I'm missing the next game because we're going to the Arizona ball and I'm like, hey, boys, I'm like, I'm out on Wednesday. Not sure how we're going to survive offensively, but I hope we can get through this.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And the one guy, like the best guy in team goes, definitely more dumps and chases without you there, bud, like definitely more dumping chases. The juries are cool, though. We haven't even gotten them in yet. It's a nightmare season. Oh, okay. It's a nightmare season. Got you.
Starting point is 00:51:58 His team's in a tough, tough spots. Yeah. Reminiscent of another team out there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Five more COVID cases for the Islanders. Just let it end.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Just fucking put them out of their misery, man. Crazy. COVID's just everywhere right now. It feels like it's never been, I mean, I haven't been like dialed into the news, but it's everybody I know, I think,
Starting point is 00:52:17 has half their friends have COVID. I think it was something like 20% of the state of New York had it at once, which is an astronomical, astronomical number. It was like, It was around 20%. It was just an astronomical number.
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Starting point is 00:55:04 PayPal. All right. So PayPal sometimes is linked to like when you like do your when for me specifically it was when I like first got a phone and like I didn't have like that much of credit cards or debit cards. I linked a PayPal account when I was like 17 or 18 years. old or whatever it was. So like that my PayPal account is attached to things that I don't even remember. I don't even have a PayPal login. And I realized the other day that I've had this like file sharing website that I was using with Dave during the pandemic. And even before that like in 2020, 2019, where it was making it easy for him to send pizza reviews to me via the phone. And I was,
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Starting point is 00:57:31 I've been, again, using this app on my own. There needs to be something like that for. Frank, he just raised his hand. Oh, I'm going to talk first. I'm going to talk first. I know. There needs to be something like that for emails, like business email. Not like I'll get promotional email.
Starting point is 00:57:45 that I don't want. It's a nightmare. Those motherfucking promotional emails, I'm convinced, and I think this has been proven the other day. So I've been doing a lot of this
Starting point is 00:57:56 over this break. I've been thinking about my existence in the planet, how I don't really want to be here that much all the time, and I'm watching all these horrible movies. And then I've also been, I've also been watching,
Starting point is 00:58:12 I've been trying to clean up my emails because my, Barstle email is a fucking nightmare with all the things that we subscribe to. So I went in and canceled subscribed to, I'd say, not even kidding, 60 to 70 different companies. 60 to 70. And I'm telling you right now, these motherfuckers refuse to listen to me. I pick cancel on every single one of these things and they are double time emailing me. Double time email me.
Starting point is 00:58:39 I've gotten 400 emails in three days from Disney, National Geographic. It's fucking crazy. All these websites are just crushing me with emails. Dude, listen to this. So I think there's something to this. Back when the Cousins was a radio show, Riggs hosted for a long time, and then I hosted it after that. We have this exact conversation, and Cousin Murray said this, and I think that it's right. He said that when you hit unsubscribe on those emails, it actually re-ups you and says,
Starting point is 00:59:09 oh, this person is actually active, so continue to send them emails. It sounds illegal. I don't know if it is or not, but I'm pretty sure when you hit unsubscribe, sure, maybe a couple of them are playing it by the book and they'll listen and they'll stop send new emails. I know almost for a fact that there are some companies that when you hit that, they say,
Starting point is 00:59:28 this dude's active, he's clicking on things. Let's send him even more. This guy's paying attention. Let's fucking hunt him down. Right. I think the stupid crummy loophole is like if you cancel that and say it's an email around like deals, they can send you another email that's around a different deal or like you know finance or something
Starting point is 00:59:50 that's like you know just general updates or whatever and so I think it's like directed to that email because I tried to do the same thing I was like I am so sick of this I go into my just standard email and my standard email and I just unsubscribe unsubscribe to try to get a healthy inbox where you're like no the only emails that I want are from people that I care about I don't want any of these marketing emails. And then lo and behold, you wake up the next day and it's just, and you're like, are you, this is miserable. My email is worthless because all it is crap.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I'm looking at my, I'm looking at my Barclan box right now from this morning. I have nine emails that I don't want. Yeah. From companies that, once they get a hold of you, too, once they get a hold of you, you are dead.
Starting point is 01:00:35 What a lot of, what a lot of the companies do is they like clickbait it. So when you go to the unsubscribe, it'll be like unsubscribe from this. this, this, this, this. So you might have not clicked unsubscribe from all. No, I did. What a lot of these companies will do is they own other companies.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So when you unsubscribe from bedbath and beyond, you're going to start getting emails from Harmon or something like that. From beyond. There needs, there needs to be a documentary about this, I think. I have something that I'm dealing with right now that just hit my brain. Do you realize that your phone is listening to you all the time? and that's a fact because of this reason.
Starting point is 01:01:14 If I just right now, my phone is on, is just, I haven't put in my password yet, right? If I say, hey, Siri, it just pops up. Right? Siri, the circle pops up. Now, the microphone has to be on for it to pick up me saying, hey, Siri. That's true.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Okay? Like it's it's acknowledging that I said the words, hey, Siri. Right now it's just spinning every time I say it. It's saying, hey, Siri, how is that possible? If the microphone has to be on 24-7 then. Frankie, I'll take it one step further for you. If you watch the Edward Snowden documentary or movie or whatever that was on, I think maybe Netflix that came out on, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:59 a big part of his stuff that he revealed was that like the NSA and a lot of these intel networks like deep, deep intel networks, they could go as far as to just at any moment tap into your phone and listen and watch you wherever you are because the microphone has to be it has to be on no I'm not they were doing this they were just tapping into people's like they were tapping into people's laptops they would just like watch them in their apartment and like if they thought and they could pretty much come up with any reason
Starting point is 01:02:27 to claim that this was like a person of you know concern or interest or whatever they can absolutely just do that because everyone has these stories about oh I said something to my friend and we were in the car and then I went on and I got all these targeted emails and all these targeted Instagram ads about the thing I was talking about. How was that even possible? And that happened to me the other day with, we were talking about bowling and how my dad wears that wrist guard. And on Instagram, I got an ad for a fucking risk guard where it was called like the something popper where it went around the fingers and it stabilized the wrist. I'm like, when have I ever Type that into the internet my whole life.
Starting point is 01:03:09 Risk guard for bowling? Never. The only time I did it is when my phone was in front of me sitting there. I was probably texting and I was talking to you guys about it. I said the word bowling risk guard. It's obviously listening because if I say, hey, Siri, what song is this? It fucking listens to me and says, oh, let me look. It knows.
Starting point is 01:03:27 It's constantly listening. How about this? I just Googled this, Frankie. And again, I know I saw that stuff in the snowed should I've looked at. So I knew that it, I don't know if they've changed. the legality of it. I don't know if there's been new legislation. We obviously don't pay attention to any of that stuff. We just talk about golf and we haven't even talked about golf yet. We're about an hour into this thing. But I typed in, can the NSA tap into your phone?
Starting point is 01:03:49 And under people also ask, it says, can the NSA listen when phone is off? And then it says in bold letters, the NSA could technically listen into the microphone of an iPhone, even if it is switched off. Experts have revealed this was 2014. The claim was made first by Edward Stodda during an interview with Brian Williams of NBC Nightly News. Today, experts confirm the technique was technically possible and revealed a way to sidestep it. This is from June 10th, 2014. That was eight years ago, basically.
Starting point is 01:04:16 So they have the power to turn it on in a sense to turn on your microphone. Like quietly turn on your phone. I can just do whatever they want. That's a problem. And we carry these puppies around and look at them all day long. We're like, yeah, whatever you guys need to do there. Which I would also argue for the most part. And people can abuse power.
Starting point is 01:04:33 That's where the issue comes. I believe. But, I mean, if they're listening to me for the, I don't really care. I mean, I'm not doing it. I'm saying anything. That's fine. Sometimes I care, but other than that, like. It's crazy on the ad campaign side.
Starting point is 01:04:46 It's like, dude, you can listen. If I'm going to do something, listen away. Listen to anything that I'm doing. But the fact that Frankie's talking about risk cards of his father. And then all of a sudden he's getting a bowling ad of like, hey, you got to get the Super Soaker Pop 10,000 that's going to help you roll strikes. It's like. Well, I know, I know very little about all of this, but wasn't there the big issue a few years ago that, like, the companies that were selling these phones or whoever was then taking that data and selling it to, like, marketing companies?
Starting point is 01:05:18 And that's like, without people's consent. Like, then, then we're just, we're really in the matrix. And they're just pumping us full of stuff that we want, which to a degree, again, to a far lesser degree probably than we, we would, we would want. But we want to see the things that we want. Like that's the on the face that seems like a good idea. But like Riggs is saying, people will abuse that and then you're fucked. When you're sitting at home and you just got your new piece of technology, you know, you don't have to get too deep into this. Just the next time you call out to Google and just say, hey, Google, play the Beatles.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And it does it and it listened to you. And it obviously heard what you were saying. Just realized that it heard everything you were saying prior to that. It was just waiting for you to say, hey, Google. Like, it had to have. You can't prove that technology to me to say, oh, no, it wasn't listening until it heard Google. Well, then what does that mean? It heard Google.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Like, you can't prove that technology is not listening to 24-7. I will not accept any answer aside from its listening 24-7 for you to say the words, hey, Google. Because if you try it, you could say, now Google, and it won't fucking listen. You have to say specifically, hey, Google, and it'll say, yes, I can fucking listen to you. So, obviously, it's listening the whole thing. day. Think about this logically, people. Think about it logically. It has to be listening to you. I agree. I don't disagree with you. It's the only way it works. What a show we've had. So we've got into like into the world movies, Matrixes, the NSA listening, who I'm sure they're listening, you know, I mean, we just put this podcast out. So clearly they're listening to that. But yeah, it's a, it's a wild world. I got a, what if someone just jumped in right now? Just someone.
Starting point is 01:07:01 from the other stage. Do it. Do it. Fucking do it. That'd be awesome. Shut your mouth. Do it right now. Stop fucking telling people.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Stop fucking tell people. That would be amazing. Yeah, they like chiming like, hey man, hey, big fan of the show. I just wanted you guys know that we are definitely listening. We actually got it on here at the office. It's pretty funny stuff you guys are talking about there. Enjoy the holidays.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You gotta go. Morgan Freeman pops in your screen. He's like, you're dead. You just get a bullet in your fucking head. I have a question. How many songs do you think are out there? You ever think about that? I have a number, by the way.
Starting point is 01:07:34 So if you guys want... Ever? Well, there's a company called Grace Note, no free ad, but Grace Note has kept a list of all songs that they could possibly find that are on the internet that have been recorded, produced. And this was in 2011. There's a number. In 2011, they came up with a number of how many songs have been actually made.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Now, the written songs, I think, are endless, right? I could write a song about me dumping a poop into a fucking water cooler and that's it. Like it's just, that's a song, right? But I'm talking about songs that you could possibly find. There's a number in 2011. Without you looking it up, what would you guess, Trent? How many songs are out there? Man, it's one of those situations where I don't want to spoil, not spoil, but like ruin the question.
Starting point is 01:08:29 by saying a number that is so big because I feel like it's a big fucking number, but maybe it's not as big as I'm thinking in my head. Should the three of us just answer it all together? Sure. I have a number in my head and I
Starting point is 01:08:43 could be, I would say I could be off by a billion maybe. Right. I want to say, I'm in the same boat. I have less of a gauge on this than I think I've had of a gauge on anything.
Starting point is 01:08:58 All right. All right, all right. These are songs that are produced. You got to actually make it, put it out in the world, and it has to be accessible for you to be able to find it. It's either, it's either. Since the beginning of time? So this has since 1866.
Starting point is 01:09:15 It's either way up here, way. They were making music. They were making produce music in 1866. Yeah. The year after the Civil War ended, they're just cranking out record. Yeah, what? Yeah, dude. Frankie gives it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Well, what about fucking Beethoven and all then? weren't they like the 1700s? All right, I'm ready. I'm ready to give my answer. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm deciding between two numbers and they're very different numbers. And this number's going to be, yeah, okay. I think this number's going to be low because it's 2011 and it's also like, who knows how factual it is, but this is what we have on the internet.
Starting point is 01:09:48 All right, I'm going to, I've got a number in my head. Who wants to go first? I'm ready. Are we all just going to own it? Hold on. Hold on. I know. It's really hard to think about.
Starting point is 01:09:58 All right. I'm ready. All right. Ready. Three, two, one, go. $400 million. Oh, shit. So Lert said $5 billion.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Yeah. Trent said what? 700 million. And Rigg said 400 million? Yeah. Oof, the answer is 79 million songs. See? Way, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Well, Riggs said, I might be off by a billion. So I was like, oh, then we're in the billions. And like, that's kind of what I was thinking. It is, if there's, if there's like 30 million artists of all time, right, then like if they've each come up with, you know, 30 or 40 songs. Okay, now you said that's it, right? Now, I'm talking about produce songs. They're saying 79 million songs, let's take a sense of 79 million minutes,
Starting point is 01:10:49 which each song is not a minute. They're way longer. So this is a low ball estimate. 79 million minutes is about 150 years. You took it back to 1866 and onward. Taking each song is one minute. That's a new song coming out every minute since 1866. So now you've got to figure some songs are five minutes.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Some songs are 10 minutes. Most songs are three minutes, you'd say. Two minutes and 45 seconds is probably the given range of a song. So it could be 200 million, you know what I mean, minutes of fucking songs. So that's almost three songs a minute since 1866. being produced and made I started at a billion and then Riggs said that I might be off by a billion
Starting point is 01:11:34 so that I didn't know if we're going to get guesses of 5, 10, 10, 15 billion. Yeah, I started at 15 million and I went to 400 million. Like, I don't, that tells you a lot about my process back here. I started in the billions. I started in the billions and then worked my way down because it just, I mean, again, I had no idea where to even start. But 79 million, I mean, that sounds about right.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I guess, yeah, if you're talking like, an artist, like a really successful artist, what, releases five to ten CDs, something like that? Yeah, I mean, the catalog, I mean, there's a lot of songs, you know what I mean? Right, I know, but then they release maybe what, like sometimes eight to 20 songs on that CD. Right. That's just, you just got to take a step back and I guess think about that for a little longer. Five billion seems now, seems pretty high. It's very high.
Starting point is 01:12:21 There's 70 million tracks on Spotify. Ooh. It's still a lot of music. Isn't that a lot of music where think about the music you listen to, you probably have your, you probably have your 10 to 15 songs that you listen to. That might be high. That might be high. That's true. Yeah, I'd say my, your, your go-toes, I'm talking 70 million.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I know none of the music that's out there, none of it. No, I'd say at any given time, I have 17 songs in my rotation. Like how many songs do you think you've listened to in your life? Like actually listen to. I was thinking that too of like scratching the surface. Like a couple podcasts ago we were talking about what your knowledge of golf and like just not even leaving your bedroom or in terms of getting to space and what that is and leaving the driveway. I mean, now I feel like I'm in the same boat with just my kind of understanding and my history of listening to music. I mean, what have I?
Starting point is 01:13:21 Am I at 5,000 songs? Is that a high number? Yeah, I might be at a couple thousand maybe. that's like actively listening. If there's a song on a background in a restaurant, I don't think that counts. But like really a high number. But like how about Riggs?
Starting point is 01:13:31 Like listening on the radio when you're driving in the car? You know what I mean? You're kind of listening. You're not really. Does that count? I would say, all right. So over the course of like 10 songs,
Starting point is 01:13:39 you know, right. So my point with that would be like over the course of 10 years of listening to songs in the radio, you might hear a couple hundred new songs there, a couple hundred. Yeah, I haven't listened to much music.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Almost no song comes on the radio that you're like, oh, I've never heard this before. Like that never, right. Tren, I see you pondering over there. How many songs do you think you've listened to? I bet it's a far lower number than I would think. Yeah, whenever we talk about these things, it's just like our worlds are far smaller than we realize.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Scary. Like, yeah, all this stuff is out there. The 79 million songs are out there. All this stuff is out there. But I consume 0.000,000,000,000, 1% of it. And I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. that's just how it is. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Wow. That's crazy. I know. I know. I'm going to put in the gallery for you guys. I love it. Hit it. Daniel actually asked a really good question.
Starting point is 01:14:36 Has Charlie Woods played Augusta National? Wow. It's got to be yes, right? Yes. I could see a world where Tiger's like you've got to earn it. Same. I think the answer is no right now. Let me tell you this.
Starting point is 01:14:54 That is a different style of. I think it's no. If his response to know is you got to earn it, that is a different style of parent. I mean, yeah. I think he parents differently than Lurch Barstool who eats fucking 34 bagels every morning. All right. That's actually. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:15:11 All right. That, Riggs, you bring. I was, I'm sorry about that. Riggs, you bring up a really good point. The answer to that question says a lot about it. Like, it's exactly what you're saying. Like, we always want to know, like, what's Charlie and. Tiger's relationship like? Is it, are there bits of Earl in there? Or is he trying to do all,
Starting point is 01:15:32 everything new and do it the way that he wants to do it? The answer to has Charlie Woods played Augusta is the answer to the question that we want. Because I'd be very curious to know if he has or not. That's a question you could probably ask Tiger now. It's a good one. I was grinding over that. Yeah, I think he might answer that. I mean, I think he would answer that. I think it's no. Actually, now. I said yes immediately, but I think it's no. That's a really good question. I think it's no. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I was a hard yes, but I'm definitely leaning no, but I'm going to hold with yes. Yeah, it's a good one. Tim, Tim says, 2022 is the year of the tiger on the Chinese calendar. Are we in for a huge year for Tiger Woods? I've seen a lot of tweets about that. Yeah. It's definitely promising.
Starting point is 01:16:21 I mean, of all the things to happen, the fact that it's the year of the tiger, I know Chinese culture, they dive deep into the year of those animals. And, you know, it's a whole thing. And the fact that it's tiger and, you know, I'll take anything I can get at this point. So I'll buy into that. I like the energy. I like the fact that there's going to be a lot of people rooting for tigers next year. And I also don't know what comes with the year of the tiger.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I want to do some research. Like, is there a certain thing that happens or, you know, it could be something. you know, spiritual that might happen to Tiger this year. Maybe not on the golf course. So I don't know enough about it either, but I do want to say, I did, you know, when you, when I looked it up to confirm that, people were just making this shit up. It gives you like all of the past, you know, just years that were the year of the Tiger as well. And at a quick glance, I didn't like it. Like the past years that have been the year of the Tiger were not good years for Tiger or just kind of like bad things happened.
Starting point is 01:17:23 So I don't know if you guys want me to go through this or not It's been kind of a shitty show Yeah, you got to read them off So 2022 is the year of the Tiger coming up 2010 was the last time that it was the year of the Tiger I'm out oh boy I think was the first year Really a Tiger Woods career that he didn't win a PJ tour event
Starting point is 01:17:45 And obviously he was dealing with a lot that year 1998 was the year where he only won once Because he went through an entire swing change with Butch Harmon. Not necessarily dark, but like he only, I believe, won once that year after winning the Masters by 12 the year before. 1986 is when Jack Nicholas won his final major, which was obviously the Masters at age, I think he was 46. 1974, President Nixon resigned. So again, I don't know that that's like. The Year of the Tiger is crazy years. Crazy. Is that?
Starting point is 01:18:19 1962, I believe, was when Jack Nicholas defeated Arnold Palmer at Oakmont, which I think was his first major championship. 1950, I don't really have anything for 1950, but 1938 was the last one before that, which I believe is when, like, Nazi Germany started to take over the world and murder people. Yeah, no, it's just. All right. The thing that I'll say about the tiger is starting to become real. I mean, this is awful. I don't know that it's a great omen. if we're just basing it off historical precedent.
Starting point is 01:18:50 All right. Obviously a lot of bad things have happened in the year of the tiger, but my argument or my counterpoint to that would be that very newsworthy things happen, right? They've been bad. But like Tiger has, Tiger has had the headlines in all of those years while playing golf. The year of the Tiger 2010,
Starting point is 01:19:07 Tiger was the biggest story on the planet in 2010. Literally the biggest story on the planet. When he went through his swing change, he was the biggest story in the golf world by a long shot because people couldn't believe that Tiger Woods was switching up his swing with Butch Harmon. They couldn't understand why this phenom was changing it. And he was blowing people's minds. So my takeaway from that would be Tiger Woods is going to do something extremely newsworthy. Now, whether that be he quits the game of golf forever in the year 2022 in the year Tiger or he wins or he wins the major.
Starting point is 01:19:44 He's going to do something incredibly newsworthy in 2022. He is. He's not just going to go through this year with no news. You could also reverse engineer that and say this is this man's life is as newsworthy as it gets at all times. At every point that you check in on this guy, something crazy is going on. And I agree with you. I think that, you know, if you if you got to sign up for do I want Tiger to make huge headlines in 2022, Yeah, I do. Would I love them to be positive? Absolutely. I think we would all want that.
Starting point is 01:20:19 The unfortunate side of it is that this man has a tendency to make headlines in both ways and in big ways. And that I hope it's in a positive and not a negative. Like if you like let's say let's look at last year, huge headlines as big as they get. Not the year of the tiger, but still massive headlines, not the headlines you want. Let me ask you something. Let me ask you something. If you could, if a genie came down and said Trent, Stop eating all those malamars. If I could tell you that Tiger Woods is going to be on the front page of every single newspaper this year and the front story on every single news network for one day. And you don't know if it's positive or negative.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Would you sign up for it right now? Yes, of course. But the difference is I'm not Tiger. So as a Tiger fan, you would sign up for that right now. knowing that he is going to take over the world with some sort of news. Hold on. And it's just one day, though? Um, well, let's just, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe,
Starting point is 01:21:25 first story, guaranteed first story on every show on news and sports. Right. So that one day. But I'm, I'm, I'm obviously going to say yes because it's like, I feel like I'm the GM of a sports team spending an owner's money. Like I, I'm not actually Tiger. So what actually happens to him, it obviously affects me, but it doesn't affect me in the way that it's going to affect Tiger. So essentially, I could be signing Tiger up for, you know, flying off another cliff.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Right. But you're also, you're taking your eggs. I'm taking it. I'm in. You don't want this year of the tiger. No, but part of me. You don't want this year to just be progress then.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Like, you're rolling the dice in three months. Like, we just got Tiger back. He's playing with this on at the PNC. He's barely walking and you're already signing up for a headline to come out. I think it's more likely that shit's positive than negative. I don't think it's that big of a guy.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Part of me does want to be a person of mercy and say no. Like I look back at Tiger's life sometimes. And obviously we've all had a great time of that he's made a ton of money. There's been tons of ups and downs. But at some point I just want to be like, we got to give this dude a break. Like he just needs to go like backpacking in Europe for a year or something. He just, his life is so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:37 I need Tiger to take a gap year sometimes because his life is just so on all the time that he never gets a break. where I want to say no to this a little bit where, no, Tiger just has like a year where, you know, the comeback keeps going a little bit, but he doesn't win a major. He doesn't win a tournament.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Nothing happens in his personal life that's horrifying or, or anything like that where it's just a year from now. We look back and we say, ah, not that noteworthy. Do I think that's going to happen? Fuck. There's no way.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Even if I say I don't want it to happen to Tiger, something's going to happen to Tiger. It's just the way that his life is. I'm a hard, hard yes, because like, Frankie and then your point of saying, oh, I'd love to see this being a progress year. It's like, part of me thinks we don't have time for a progress year, right?
Starting point is 01:23:22 Like, he needs to shoot back up to beat Jack's record and like get back to the pinnacle. So we need that new story. And yes, it is very much, Trent, your analogy of like we're just the GM spending the owner's money. Like it's not directly to us, but we're just fan boys of this. Is yes. And I'm just going to just ride off that and be a fan boy. of Tiger, but we don't have time to spend a whole year progressing and getting better and top tens and top fives.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Like, we need major wins and we need them now. And so I'm on, I'm signing up for don't know what it is. First news story in golf, let's say, you know, in the major start is Tiger Woods. Yes, 100% for that. I'll take that risk. I'll take that on. And I don't think it's that close. Give it to me.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Give it to me. I want it. You could be signing this guy's death certificate. Right. Now that's not something I'm okay. You don't know, but you don't know the answer. I could be signing up. I could be signing his sixth green jacket.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Like I'd screw. There's the positive sign. Okay. But here's like breaking out. I'm just trying to give you all the options. You're signed. I want you to know what you're signing up for. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:32 And I'm just looking at the point. You are aware of the options. And we want, I want the smoke. I want the heat. Am I nervous going into this now? Yes. But I want it. Here's my kind of point.
Starting point is 01:24:42 to Lurcho, we do have time. Like, Phil Mickelson, Phil Mickelson is proving that we have time. Would you take a Tiger Woods, a 50-year-old Tiger Woods, had he not driven off this cliff the way Phil Mickelson is moving around? We would be signing up for that tomorrow. We'd say a Tiger would win 35 majors if he was looking like Phil right now. Phil literally just won a major at 50 years old. Like, we have all the time in the world.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Phil's age, his 50 years is like, Tiger did what Phil did in 50 years. at 27. I mean, like, the years that Tiger has lived have been hard, tough years. And so Tiger did have to use a machine called the Jaws of Life to get him out of a car. Like, these things did happen to Tiger. And so I just don't think there's a lot of time. Phil is a California boy with shades and walking around with big caps. In Tiger years, Phil's like 17, dude. It's dog years. It's literally dog years. It's like, yeah, I, yeah. Multibular by seven. Phil Nicholson at 50 is 350 years of Tiger Woods. He is so much older. Dude, that's actually true. That's actually true. I agree, man. That's why I need it now. I need
Starting point is 01:25:55 instant gratification from this guy because he's, I mean, he's the oldest guy in the world. Phil being a 17 year old tiger right now is so funny. Tiger at 45 is Phil at 350. It's the same basically age difference. Listen, but here's the thing about this question, yes or no, and I think this is true, he's going to do it. I don't know what it is, but that's just, whatever it's going to be, because Tiger's life is just like that. Just whatever it is. New story, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Whatever it is just because I think, I think it's the other way. It's like, we don't have, there is no decision. It's just his life. And whatever happens is always noteworthy. If it's a comeback, people are going to be like, let's check that out. If something bad happens to people are like, let's check that. out. It's just he is an interesting person that people are very interested in. Tiger turns 46 on Thursday, which is the same day as the Arizona Scramble, by the way. By the time he turns 50,
Starting point is 01:26:50 he might have like one leg, gray hair, like a Santa beard. He's like limping to the tea as a ceremonial first year. All right. All right. Let's not go too heavy. Four years away from now in Tiger years is outrageous. Right. Anything could happen. Four years in Tiger years, compared to the dog years, is 28 years. He's got to live three decades in the next couple of years. That's about right, I think. Or he could have 22 major wins, and Charlie could be on the fucking tour
Starting point is 01:27:18 by the time he wins his 22nd. So there's a lot of pros, there's a lot of cons to that question. You know, I thought that was a good discussion. I think I'm not taking, I think I'm not taking the headline this year. I think I need to give this guy one more year. I see the plan.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Then you're saying no majors this year. You're saying no majors for tag. I'm saying that. If I had to pick, if a genie popped up and said, Trent, no more Malamars, you have to stop with your sugar intake and all your chocolates and your sweets. But first of all, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you, I don't know why I'm struggling to know how that's even related. It's like, what do you mean? I saw Malamars in the fucking.
Starting point is 01:27:54 I don't eat Malamars. You were a Malamars guy. I would eat a Malamar presented with one, but I don't want. Oh, come on a beautiful lot of chocolate, dude. A chocolate covered marshmallow you're not eating, dude. Don't, hey, don't project on the meat. fat boy. You probably love Malamars. I got two boxes of Malamars yesterday.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Yeah, dude. Come on. Here we go. And you know what I also have been eating? I've been eating those nerd fucking things. Those nerd gosh, the balls with the nerds on it. Dude. Dude. But really I would just say that I'm here for the process if I was given that choice from that fucking genie. I'm here for the process. I think that this is the 1998 Tiger Woods who's learning a swing with Butch Harmon. He needs a year to fucking work out the kinks, learn the new stride, learn the new weight distribution from the back leg to the front leg. Give this guy some time. He's still missing greens at the PNC. He's not hitting them as consistent. Let's give this guy a year to learn this
Starting point is 01:28:54 new swing with this new back and this new leg and his new ankle. And then he's back. He's just back playing. And then for his 47th birthday, 48th, 49th, 50th, it's 51st. He's just a new Tiger Woods. That's just who we have. now. You take the process for Charlie. You cannot take the process. Oh, you can't with him yet. Come on.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Charlie's a healthy 12-year-old kid that's just going to fucking live his life and be a golfer. I'm taking the process. No, no, I need, we need to keep Tiger in like a chamber of health and safety. And we have to nurture him like our child. Tiger Woods is our baby boy. We have to we have to make sure he's okay. We can't just throw him back into the wolves. The guy just walked.
Starting point is 01:29:37 I mean, you want this guy I just learned how to walk and you want him to walk on water. This is crazy. You know, and that's only with this, I still want him to win a thousand majors this year, even though there's only four. Dude,
Starting point is 01:29:48 the problem is like, Tiger is like Harrison Ford in, like Indiana Jones, where he would love to just kind of live, but things just find him, man. That's right. News and stories and missions that need to be a college.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Shit just finds him that he cannot just chill and la la la. He's Mark Wahlberg and shooter where he wants to just be out on his farm and live in, but guess what, man? The whole world's coming to him at all times. He doesn't have time to just frolic around for a year Frankie because it's over at that point.
Starting point is 01:30:21 He finds it though, Riggs. You can't say that it all finds him. But I would argue that in those movies, man, that same character he kind of wants it. Like he claims that, you know, he's, you know, yeah, I'd love this nice peaceful life like the normal life, but not really.
Starting point is 01:30:38 That's not what's in that DNA. That's not what makes that clock tick. Like that guy needs it and he knows it. And that my concern is that that's coming for Tiger. I don't know how much time we got left. I don't know if we can waste a year trying to pretend that he's some, you know, farmer who could just enjoy life and be peaceful and pop up what he wants to. I think we got to hammer those Ws where we got the chant.
Starting point is 01:30:58 He really is. I don't know if this is a movie or not, but he is really that like farmer who is in the field just like working. and then that car starts driving down the road. And you're just like, here we go. Whatever it is. Let's roll. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:13 He's just working. The dust is kicking up behind the tires. He's milking a cow. He's just sitting there wipes his brow with the rag. And then just a car starts driving down the road. And he's like, here we go. Here we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Your veterans are back. Yeah. Ultron's here. Yeah. It's just the whole world. It just finds it, man. It just finds it. Last one we're going to do here
Starting point is 01:31:37 This will be the last one of the year And it's Mike from Raleigh I'm giving this to him We gotta know what Lurch ate over Christmas It's just a big part of the show Or say it's a recurring theme Make fun of the fact guy Recurring segment
Starting point is 01:31:50 Is just you being truthful and honest About what you put in your little pie hole There over things over Christmas I think it's relatable I think we got a lot of fats that listen to this show Yeah we got some fats I mean I would say We got a lot of listeners in the U.S
Starting point is 01:32:03 And a lot of people in the U.S. Oh, yeah, huge. Matt, it's just numbers. We're throwing numbers. We're a disgusting species. I would say Christmas was a bad day. Great. So my brother, Christmas Eve, you know, I was in kind of the last minute shuffle to go out, get a couple gifts, whatever.
Starting point is 01:32:25 And he was like, you got to go to, it used to be called, it's called flower on first now in Atlantic Islands. Anyways, I picked up just a couple of. crumb cakes. I think I got three or four crumb cakes. I got maybe five or six blueberry muffins. I got these little crumb cakes with jelly in it, but they're like flatter that are really good. And then what else do we pick up? I picked up a pie of some sorts of breakfast pie that was off the charts. So no, so Christmas morning I probably had, I don't know, two blueberry muffins and probably a full crumb cake, something like that. I'm picturing the beaches of Normandy and pieces of food running off the ships
Starting point is 01:33:09 and just getting picked off one by one and just lurches just fucking just feed me. Yeah. These muffins had no fucking clue. Oh, dude, the muffins were nice too. You cut them in half. I would try not to put butter on each one, but I would. And then there's all sorts of bread
Starting point is 01:33:27 floating around all day long. And like we do Christmas. This is a battle. You go, you go and you have your coffee, you kind of get ready. Kids come down the stairs. You do stockings. Then you have breakfast.
Starting point is 01:33:38 And then you kind of open some presents under the tree and you have another breakfast. And then it's kind of a little bit of a rest time. And then you go have. Second breakfast? What do you eat? Hobbits? Well, there's just,
Starting point is 01:33:48 no, there's just bread sitting in the kitchen. So like you're talking to people. And then when you want a little break, you kind of just meander into the kitchen. You fill up your coffee and you get another piece of crumb cake. So I probably had probably had two to three blueberry muffins. I probably had like a full crumb cake.
Starting point is 01:34:03 And they were thick. probably, you know, three to four inches high and maybe like the width of $2 bills, something like that. And I probably had an everything bagel and a half or something like that. So one and a half everything bagels. We're talking for 10 minutes right now.
Starting point is 01:34:18 And then one... What time is it at? And then one slice of... No, no, no. Are we at 9 a.m.? This probably took me to noon, something like that. And then when Christmas, like one big thing for us is some sweet.
Starting point is 01:34:31 So we had gummy bears. I had a bunch of different candy bars Then I had a Tobaron bar So on Christmas That's the part that scares me He glosses over that He goes I had a bunch of different candy bars Well dude they show up in your stockings
Starting point is 01:34:44 That could be 10 to 15 candy bars No I think I had I had so on Christmas day Before like lunch dinner I had I had a Toborone bar I had a gummy bear And then I had
Starting point is 01:34:58 My dad is late to the party He was shoving in Almond joys into our stockings It's like he was like, so, and I love an almond joy. So anyways, I had that. A big thing for you guys is just all food. You said it's sweet. It's like a big thing is just anything that could be considered the food category.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Yeah. So I will say this is though, this is where it went wrong. So then we went to my aunt's place for, um, for Christmas dinner. And oh my God, she had this little, uh, smoked salmon thing on a little piece of bread. I must have 15 of. things just waiting for dinner just I couldn't get away from them man they were so good 15 probably they had a huge plate of these things it was for like you know 18 or 20 people and I was just hammering away so I had a lot of those and then um she brought out translates to one lurch by
Starting point is 01:35:50 the way 18 to 20 people is one lurch if you're looking at a table like what what converts to what 18 to 20 people is one lurch I know this is a lot yeah no measurement dude they were good they were really good. And then she brought out this fantastic artichoke dip. So I don't know, probably had 15 to 20 chips, scoops of that. That was really good. And then dinner time hit. She's got, she's got meatloaf, she's got ham, she's got mac and cheese, she's got squash, she's got some green beans, and then some really good just mashed potatoes. So I had, that's good. Yeah, so then I had just a full plate, you know, good size plate, two to three and three to the pyramid, touch all parts of pyramid. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yeah. And then I just went back for a full plate of ham and just went back, covered the plate and kind of like a good little like sweet mustard sauce and just ate all the ham, which was lovely. Then we had dessert. And I'm not supposed to be a dairy guy, but I had, and it gets nasty at this part, I had one of this like, it was called this like, it was called this like, Like, I don't know, Chicago is he been talking about the green monster pie or something like that. It was like mint chocolate and chocolate with this like chocolatey crust phenomenal. I had a slice of that with ice cream. Then I had a slice of the cheesecake pie with ice cream.
Starting point is 01:37:19 And we say, you know, I had a couple, you know, beers. And then actually I got on that hoverboard, which was an absolute mess. I don't know if you saw that, but I posted on my story of me trying to get on with these kids hoverboard. and look particularly coordinated in that. Dude, it said, you try that, man. Your first step on one of those things after a few beers is nearly impossible. I was so happy to reach and touch the wall because I knew I wasn't going to die. But then I will say that technology is impressive.
Starting point is 01:37:44 I got it on like a seven. Is that one of those things that like campus security drives around on now and like college campuses? Is that what that was? I think those are segways. This is a little bit, it's pretty much the same idea, just a little bit less. Okay. So anyways, finish dinner, finish that. Then I go home.
Starting point is 01:37:59 my brother and his kids didn't go to dinner because, you know, their kids are just young. And so it just didn't make sense. It wasn't during nap time the whole bit. They had a bowl of cheese fondue going. So then after all that, this is what you guys have, emotional connection over, right? Right. This is it. So after the whole day, everything is.
Starting point is 01:38:20 The final boss. Yeah, I just went in and I cleaned up this plate of chate or bowl of cheese fondue with my brother and his wife. And so that put the sugar on top, the cherry on top, rather. And it was too much sugar. I will say that. It was too much sugar that day, too much food. I did not feel well the next day. Wow.
Starting point is 01:38:43 That's a good day. I mean, that's a full day of eating. You could break it down to basically three blueberry muffins, two crumb cakes, three chocolate bars, a bagel and a half. two huge plates of steak or like red meat, ham, and nonsense. If you had to guess. And then a cheese fondue bowl. How many to, again, guessing to your best ability,
Starting point is 01:39:13 how many bathroom trips are involved in a day like this, would you say? Dude, I don't, I don't think a ton. How about the next day? So if you guys want to get really graphic, I don't think I don't have to. We don't have to. So like when it when it goes that way, how does somebody have time with all that? Well, you get really dehydrated and like if you're really dehydrated, sometimes you poop out green and I had a I'm convinced when I eat it goes right to me and I I shit it right out within seconds.
Starting point is 01:39:44 No. I know that that's incorrect, but like I just I know I know. I know that I have the fastest like I think the. The science says that that's the meal prior that your body's getting rid of. Like I think that your body is clearing out that. waste and preparing to now digest the new stuff. So how come like for me if I eat, if I eat like a really runny red meat for some reason, if I eat like a rare steak or like a rare burger, if I eat that or ice cream, if I have ice cream, instantly have to go to the bathroom. So what is the signs behind that?
Starting point is 01:40:17 Is it just like. That might go right through you. Yeah. Because I'm like allergic to dairy. So like that ran. But the dairy is not going through. It consumes it at a shock. The dairy is not going through you.
Starting point is 01:40:26 It must be doing something to your body that just makes you. shit immediately. I don't think your body can like decompose. Metabolize it. Yeah, exactly. Break it down. Dude, sometimes with like a like a cheeseburger or something, I'll feel it sitting at the table
Starting point is 01:40:39 while I'm finishing it. And I just never understand. I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, is this thing running right through me? This is it crazy? Is there just like a straight bite? Horrible diets.
Starting point is 01:40:49 I think if you have like a pretty healthy diet, everything handles everything a lot better. And then when you throw in the occasional cheeseburger, I don't think you just have to run and, and, and, attack the toilet. I think your body can usually handle it. But when we have horrific diets, and my mom explained this to me, horrific childish diets, I think your body is just constantly a mess and trying to keep up and catch up and stuff goes through you and it's never solid and it's just a disaster perpetually. So I think perhaps finding a nice, better, healthier,
Starting point is 01:41:19 cleaner, fuller diet might help with that, but I'm not a scientist. We could use what's up doc for that next time. Okay, I like that. I will say that juice cleanse was supposed to like give your digestive system a break and hopefully heal your gut. And so I will say I feel a better relationship towards dairy. And Riggs knows, but like, and Frankie knows too. Just because Riggs roommate and Frankie, you ride in the car with me, I'll cough up that crap, that phlegm. And that's usually from a day before of having a bunch of dairy.
Starting point is 01:41:50 And so when I cut that out, I have less of that. But sometimes I don't even know, but I'm like coughing up phlegm. It's the worst. And Frankie's like, dude, if you do that again, I'm going to take my nine iron in it over your head. It's the worst. It's disgusting. And so distracting.
Starting point is 01:42:06 It kind of ruins that at any moment ever when you do that. No, I'm sorry, gang. But yeah, no, I'm with you. It's disgusting. So that's my Christmas. It was nice. I've got a golf question before we go here. I had a guy DME.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Gibb Baker was his name. Maybe you named after Barry Gibb. I don't know what that first name is. but if a golfer plays nine and then takes a three-hour break and plays another nine, can he combine those scores as one round? In this case, it was due to slow play on Christmas morning, whether or not related. They ended up stopping, I guess, ate lunch, three-hour break is pretty fucking long. Come back, is that one full round?
Starting point is 01:42:48 I'll love it. I have no problem, is there a time limit? I would say if you don't leave the golf course, it's the same 18 holes. Okay. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. So let's say you're at,
Starting point is 01:43:01 you're one of those snobby guys at a country club and you want to compare scores to another guy, like the guy who went inside, the guy who went inside and like freshened up and maybe took a nap and ate at lunch and a dinner is like the same as the guy who just powered through and just played a regular round of golf against the generic rules of golf with the speed limit and all that, the time limit and all that stuff. You're telling me that one guy has comparable scores to another? I mean, I will say if that guy is not ideal, but. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:27 If that guy's barking at me saying like, oh, I'm so much better because I did this. It's like, dude, get away from me. Like, I don't even want to talk to you. Yeah, whatever. But I think this question is because, like, guys are having this debate. So what is, they're coming to us for the answer. What would your true, honest answer? If you were the guy who maybe lost to the guy who went and took his sauna and, you know, whatever,
Starting point is 01:43:48 he did all the things he had to do. Maybe even left the premises to go check on his kids. And, like, you come back. You're a whole new person. Well, so. I would argue almost anything in the same day. As crazy as that sounds. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:58 Like even if you put it to its extreme where you golf really early in the morning, 6 a.m. T time, and then you go back out there at 3 o'clock and finish your other nine. I almost would allow that, I think. Yeah, and I would say the deal breaker for me would be like if they're in this window, this guy did like a hardcore range session and like refound his game, I'm out. But anything else, again, I might, you know, say, give him a little nudge.
Starting point is 01:44:24 It'd say never again, pal. but I think you got to allow it. Well, that's why you could be. Frankie, did somebody compete or something? Because you're making it sound like, okay. Well, I'm just like juicing up their question a little bit more because they said that this happened to them and there was a debate. So I'm assuming that there was more to it. He just didn't write it all out.
Starting point is 01:44:41 So I'm kind of trying to be the creative mind here and figure out where he's coming from. I'm assuming that it was something similar to that. I agree with you have to let them just count it. Especially the fact, and people hate the way I say, especially. Especially. They say I say EX. You throw a little, you throw a little X in there. Especially. I don't know. It's just how they do it, man. I'm aware of it. I want everyone to know. I'm aware of that. You do say especially. Yeah, I'm aware of that. I want everyone to know I'm aware of that, specifically the Facebook people. I, I, um, especially for the fact that, especially for the fact that, um, you can't really tell me the difference between sitting down eating a hot dog and sitting down and eating something that might take a little bit longer. Like, how can we start penalizing guys for maybe taking 20,
Starting point is 01:45:26 minutes and this guy took 45 minutes and this guy took an hour and a half at some point you're all taking a break at the halfway house maybe you get caught up on a phone call or you meet someone and you got to take a meeting or something that's just the way life works and you can't say one guy had a better round than the other guy because he played straight through that just means the other guy didn't have things going on his life no yeah i think if you're if you're playing under the same sun i think of that day i think you're okay i i do give riggs's point though a note it's like if this guy's like to the extreme this guy plays the first hole gets a massage does a range session plays the second does that rinse and a repeat for 18 holes it's the most ridiculous round of golf yeah about on
Starting point is 01:46:05 that that guy's an asshole but you think that would even help you no I'd be you have no rhythm like I don't know that'd be good anything within reason I think is what we're getting at and the same day here's do you think you'd be a sign like would you be a scratch golfer before ever. every hole they had a range where like so every hole went straight and then to the right there was a range where you could hit as many balls as you want and then you get to step up and hit your shot that counts no no no you don't think you'd be a significantly significantly better golfer no if i could have every shot twice like a two ball scrap like then i think i would be but like or you or a warm up shot for that hole so like i that's what i just said no no No, no, that's a range. I thought every, well, you said every hole. I'm saying every shot. I have a practice shot from that spot.
Starting point is 01:47:01 So like, like, okay, I hit my drive. Then I get to hit a nine iron or something like that right before. I think I lower myself two to three strokes. Okay, so let's say golf was reimagined where you played with white golf balls where those ones counted. And then you got a bunch of yellow balls in your bag. Let's say every golfer. on the planet that played around a golf was allowed, let's say, 50 golf balls, yellow balls in their bag.
Starting point is 01:47:28 And you're able to throw those down at any point and hit a practice one. And they just get discarded. When they're on the green, when they're anywhere, they're just practice balls. I like that game where you get to just toss a ball down and get a practice, right? I mean, how often does the average golfer get to practice that given shot? And you're giving the average golfer a chance to get a practice in before he tries. I mean, that's awesome. I think that's substantial.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Substantial. We should try that. I would love to play around like that where, all right, oh, I'm feeling really uncomfortable of this. I'm going to use three of my yellow balls here. I'm going to get my practice chip in, and then I'm just going to step up and hit the one that counts. Now, you don't get a second chance at the one that counts, but at least you've got a couple bad shots out before.
Starting point is 01:48:10 I think we just figured something out here. Can you use them on the green? Ooh. Yeah, I think you can use them on the green like crazy. I think you can use them on the green, no? because they don't count if they go in you obviously get the break. Maybe you have to come up with a rule
Starting point is 01:48:24 that you can't use one of the game. I think we'd be way better. I think we'd shoot way lower numbers. Yeah. But I also think you're like just, you're just kind of just taking golf away from golf. Right. That's your point.
Starting point is 01:48:35 I don't really know. Because like, yeah, you're always taking the white ball, though. So like no matter what you did prior, it doesn't affect that shot at all. The game is like you get one, like that's, you get one chance at it.
Starting point is 01:48:48 And then you have a whole new shot. you get one chance at it, you have a whole new shot. I'm not saying a change again off. I'm saying this is a style that we should see how much better we are if we get a practice swing before each actual shot. I'm not saying Jason Day should go out there at the Masters and fucking have yellow balls. But I'm saying like for us, I would love to see if Trent could break like 80 with fucking unlimited practice shots before his original. Dude, I would absolutely do that.
Starting point is 01:49:12 I just to see what would be a lot lower. I definitely do. Because I, and I honestly think this is more kind of a knock on all of our mental games is that level of like uncomfortability that you have the fact that you can't solve that you need to hit like a practice shot or feel something else before it is as we discuss this almost eye opening it's like I can't solve that in the moment or like just get in a comfortable spot and usually when you are for me like those errors can just compound themselves and all of sudden instead of making a four or five you're making that you know double or triple and you're like
Starting point is 01:49:49 Go to YouTube and watch Pacific Dunes, our travel series in the beginning. Watch me chip at that practice range and see how smooth and fucking fantastic my wedge game was where it didn't matter at all. I was flopping balls over bunkers onto tight pins and spinning them back into holes. At one point,
Starting point is 01:50:08 I wasn't even looking at where they were going because they were all going the same place. And Avery had to tell me I dunked one. It was psychotic. Well, in one of these videos, I don't know if it's the one that, if it's come out yet or not, but you came up with the idea.
Starting point is 01:50:19 to try to trick yourself mentally where you took a bunch of balls out there when we're playing the actual rounds and then when you have a chip shot you will lay a bunch of balls next to your live ball you don't hit the other ones but you're trying to you know make it seem like you're on the practice range yeah i don't i don't remember if it ended up working i think it did it didn't work but but that's like taking what this new version is like taking it to an extreme where you actually get to hit those balls and then you go to your live ball yeah i think it's a fun um you know we do scrambles, we do all these things. I think it's fun for if you have the, like, let's say you go out out there in a winter day where there's no one else on the golf course and you have some time to
Starting point is 01:50:55 mess around. Some guys hit two balls. Some guys hit three. I'd like to see how much better the score is if you have two colored balls, one of them being a practice shot, one of them being the in-game ball, how much better that white ball score is. I'd also be really interested if you did this as like an exercise for two weeks and then you took that ability away. If your score would be significantly better or if your play would be better because you would learn a lot from this exercise. Yeah. I mean, this does go to show you. It's like we're all just talking about like practicing the game of golf, which is almost
Starting point is 01:51:30 foreign to three of us. I mean, Riggs, you do the daily nines and you're out on the course more. But like, practicing the game of golf is legitimately not a thing that I participate in. And like, it's just, it's situational practice. We get so little practice that we're trying to bake in our practice during our. actual rounds. Totally. I think that's pretty fucking common across the world.
Starting point is 01:51:53 How many people have chances to practice a bump and run on the seventh hole at their local public golf course? Zero. So if you give this opportunity for a guy that goes out there on a Twilight round, I want to see if listeners will go out there and try this and how much better they get by like saying, all right, dude, because that white ball, if you step up, if I hit, if I have four yellow balls on the T and I hit four practice shots. When I step up to that next one, I'm still nervous about that white ball and if I can
Starting point is 01:52:21 replicate those three swings. It actually might put more pressure on you in a weird way. As Frankie was talking, I was like, Frankie's going to collapse during this because Frankie ropes his practice ball and he goes, well, now, why wouldn't that count? Right. And then it's a white ball. It might end up being a negative. I remember Lurch that had this conversation a few years ago about how, if the
Starting point is 01:52:44 average weekend golfer went somewhere into a practice greenside bunker and hit 50 shots over the course of a half hour, you will probably hit more bunker shots than that half hour, then you will hit over the next year or two years. And like, think about how different that is and how much you will learn about like your own ability in the bunker and how to hit a shot and get comfort. Because if you, if you play once a week on the weekend and you hit it into two or three bunkers the whole time. Like, you get in there, you haven't hit a bunker shot in maybe a week or two weeks.
Starting point is 01:53:17 You don't feel good about it. It's daunting. You're going to now you're going to like beautifully catch one an inch behind the ball. Like, fuck no. And then you blade one. And now for the next month, every time you have one, you're just like, oh, no. And so if you now multiply that over all the different aspects of the game, I think actually genuinely practicing golf would, I don't know, I think you'd just see shocking results from
Starting point is 01:53:39 people. Yeah. I mean, a level of comfortability of just being in the. bunker. It's like people panic before they even like hit the shot. So it's like they're never going to hit a good shot. And so yeah, I mean, I am this game though, I am interested because it's a little bit like Frankie and I think we talked about like what would our best and worst ball be if we took our two balls and, you know, played those over and over again. You took your best ball each time and you took your worst ball each time and what you would actually score. But this is a little
Starting point is 01:54:10 bit nuanced, like a little tweener between the two of that, the fact that you get these practice balls can try them, hopefully feel better about your shot than go. And it would be... I would say, we should do it. You get 36, you get 36 practice balls during the round. You get two a hole and just see, see, and you can use them when, like, you don't have to use it on each hole. No. Yeah, you use them whatever you want. So you come to a part three and you're feeling good. You might not even use one. You hit one tight. Now you've all of a sudden you've got four for the next hole or whatever. But I think that would be really,
Starting point is 01:54:40 really interesting. And I think it's not that crazy to film it. I think we can film that pretty easily. Right. And actually now you say like on par three on like a windy day, you know, you might hit one just to get a sense of the distance. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:52 And hit another one. This is great. I like this. Yeah. I like it. It would teach you a lot about how much you're supposed to learn from every shot. We've been told that a bunch. You should get feedback from every shot.
Starting point is 01:55:04 And usually it's like you hit a shitty one and we're like, blah, whatever. And we just move on to the next. And we never think about it ever again when like, who was it, Morikawa told us? Like, you should learn something and get feedback from every single shot that you hit. Yeah, I think Higgs said that too. Higgs, maybe it was Harry Higgs that told us that, but it's like. Every shot I hit in a bottle.
Starting point is 01:55:22 Every shot I hit is just in a bottle. There's just nothing. Maybe 5% of the shots I get anything out of it in terms of like going forward. Right. We should do that for sure. That'd be fun one. All right, boys. Well, I guess this is our last show of 2021.
Starting point is 01:55:36 one. Actually, next time we do a podcast will be the year of the tiger. Well, actually, I think it starts theirs is differently. But for us, it'll be the year of the tiger. Yeah. Happy new year. This is the last time in this year you'll hear us. We'll all be a year older.
Starting point is 01:55:50 I don't know if that makes any sense. Nope. You know what they should do? You should your first year of your life should be, you should be one when you're born. Because like, I think they do that in some places. Because like when you're 29, you're living on, you're living your 30.
Starting point is 01:56:06 30th year. It's a it's it's a farce as they say. I don't know about that because when you turn when you come out of the womb you're not you haven't been around for a year. You're still like zero. You're like a second old. Yeah. You're right but yeah I think you're shorter than a foot you're just not a full foot. You're not you don't started a foot. Apologies if this is wrong. I don't I'm just looking up on Google
Starting point is 01:56:34 quickly. I believe in China when you're born, you're one. Here we go. China's got all sorts of it. They know what they're doing in some parts. So you're communist now, Frankie's. Exactly. Anything that supports Frankie's point is just the best thing in the world.
Starting point is 01:56:49 What I said may have been dumb. Any port in the storm. Anyways, we, um, 2020. This is again, this is our last show of 2021. We don't really know how to do this stuff. We're not going to say anything like profound or whatever leading into, hope everybody has a happy and safe new year. Um, hopefully everything goes well at the Arizona Bowl.
Starting point is 01:57:06 the Arizona scramble. I think that's all I have. Anybody have anything profound to say here to finish out the year? Go enjoy Halo, T. Go, yeah. Enjoy Halo. You know, everybody just smack yourself around a little bit. You deserve it.
Starting point is 01:57:20 You know, ruin those towels. And let's just have a good 2022, you know. Let's try and be, oh, I'll do a new year. Are we going to do New Year's resolutions now or after in the New Year? I haven't even thought about it. New Year. All right. Doing the New Year.
Starting point is 01:57:35 I'll try and be I'm gonna try and look at life in a more optimistic and happy lens I feel like I am take the under on that I feel like I would love if we had a clip of you saying that every year in our last show of the year I feel like I have like uh contacts that are like blurry and dark and they have dirt in them and I see the world in a negative dark light and I need those lenses to be wiped away clean and I don't know if I need Jesus or something. but I need something. All right. I'm rooting for it.
Starting point is 01:58:10 I think you can do that, right? We're going to help you out. We're going to be glass half full. I also need a paint. I need a painter in the Long Island area. I need a, but no, I need a painter.
Starting point is 01:58:18 Who the fuck is going to paint my wall? Just go hire one. Just go to hire one. We are going to hire one. I need someone that's good. I don't, you think I'm going to fucking paint these walls? Frankie.
Starting point is 01:58:27 I'm going to paint these fucking walls. Frankie. Look it up like everybody else. I don't paint your shit. I'm crowdsourcing in here. Frankie, how do you think people, who don't have a podcast, get things done. They ask questions.
Starting point is 01:58:40 It's references. Oh, I know this guy. Johnny Appleseed knows this guy. Johnny two times knows this guy. He'll paint your house. I need fucking people that I trust. I am bringing in. Don't you know these guys?
Starting point is 01:58:51 I'm not bringing in these sex predators that are going to fucking sniff my underwear. All right. All right. Have a good year. Have a good year. You've ever seen four Christmases? All right.
Starting point is 01:59:01 Everybody have a great, have a great new year. receive we're going to be back next week on Tuesday for our first show of 2022 hit it heart hit it hard who the fuck's gonna paint my house hard

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