Fore Play - Fore Play Business Meeting Live

Episode Date: November 15, 2022

We decide to host an impromptu meeting about our social media, production and the Fore Play business live on the podcast. Does our social suck? We just hired a new social person and we try to get his name right. Riggs spent the weekend at Auburn for an SEC night game. Frankie has been grinding over the first ever “Breaking 90: Borrelli Cut”. Dan posts weird IG stories. Trent and Frankie went to Shane Gillis. Did sophisticated civilizations exist way longer ago than we think? Tony, Tommy, and Nelly win. Riggs plays a big golf match. And much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's up, my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he always knives that across the green. Nice to be here, boys.

Congratulations on all that you're doing is as mediocre as a, as it's as a nice name. it is. Bro your hundred. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool.

We appreciate it. After watching this year, I'm very much thinking about getting, so I have a fusion surgery. Skip that. I was like, hey, Phil, you own me fucking $29.99. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 of these yesterday. Oh, my God.

He goes, take a hundred and go fuck yourself. What? What are you guys doing with that? It's a hobby. Foreplay, brought to you by Barstool. sports and presented as always by our very good friends at Chevy. Even though it's November 15th when this show comes out, 2022, we have a lot to get to. I have a bunch of stuff in my notes. We got golf talk, actual golf talk, and a lot going on in our own lives. We got Thanksgiving's

coming up. And we have, I believe, today when folks are listening, this is news to me. We have our first ever Frankie Borrelli edited Breaking 90 episode coming out at noon Eastern Standard Time. Noon. Noon today. The Borrelli Cut is live. I mean, I got to just off the top, off the rip, I got to just give a shout out to these editors that we have here. I don't know how they don't demand $10 million a year. You know what I mean? Like, we recorded this thing last Tuesday and I've been working on it every single hour that I've had free since Tuesday up until now. I mean, I'm talking maybe 30 hours of real work on this fucking video to come out with an hour-long video.

It's insane. And it's only a two. I was texting Brendan the whole time in Alex. It's like it's a two camera shoot. There's a three camera shoot, four camera shoot. You got drone, GoPro, and the two cameras. When fucking Brendan and Alex edit these travel series, dude, it's like an eight camera shoot with four tracks of audio and like three hours worth of video like that you have to use. At least this one was only just two guys hitting golf shots.

So long story short, it's really hard what these guys do. It's amazing. It's eye opening. I'm in the trenches again, you know, leading by example. I was at the office on Friday just with all the editors. and I was getting so many looks being like, what the hell's Frankie doing here? And I was like,

I'm fucking back in this thing right now. It felt really good. I felt like I'm like, I was back at work. The show's about the break in 90s about Trent. So let's kind of get to Trent. I appreciate. No, no,

the series has now changed to Trent has to break 90s so that I don't have to keep doing this. That is what the series, the series has completely shifted. It's completely shifted. This guy, you're pissed. You're pissed at Trent.

This is attempt 10. If we're doing this by attempt 15, I'm going to murder him. Like, there's no way I'm, spending my entire winter and Christmas break and all this stuff doing this guy. He has to break 90 like tomorrow. I appreciate.

I appreciate it. And it, um, it, uh, I got a few text messages from you that were just like, I'm not doing this. I don't want to do this. It's not coming out. So just somehow we're going to have to deal with that. And it's a lot of work. I don't know how much work it is because I've never done it.

And I hope to never do it because it's an impossibly hard job. But I appreciate you doing it this time. and the teaser, which I think you just tweeted, is magnificent. You're the tease God. I love teasing. You love putting out teas more than you love putting out videos. We've known that forever. So you put a lot of work into those.

Do you speak more time on the teaser than you do on the hour long video? Well, I start the whole video with the teaser. Like, I don't, and I think that's probably not the way you're supposed to do it, but I take all the best things that I can find. I just make a teaser immediately. I think that is an efficient way. It's like when you're writing something, you got to start with a bang, right?

Like if people see the teaser and they don't want to watch the video, then you're screwed. I definitely do things unorthodox. But I mean, yeah, it's out. It's out today. It's an amazing video because Trent Ryan just is like, you know, you've seen little spurs of this guy starting to play some good golf. And I think that the, the break that we took was beneficial to his game.

I feel like he was more focused. And it's a really, really, really good episode. I mean, it's really hard to promo what a breaking 90 episode is. We say that every single week because you just don't want to give it away. But you just have to watch it, 12 o'clock. People know what they're getting into with Trent Breaking 90. They like it. They enjoy it.

Even when you don't do it, which is far more than you do do it, which is the nature of the series, no matter what. You know, you know what you're getting into. You're going to love it. I mean, I'm going to get into my weekend in Auburn, but at least 10 people came up to me and we're like, Trent Break 90 yet. How's that going? And they're getting into it. So it's, you know, they're going to get their back. When's the last time we posted a break in 90?

Three weeks ago. Yeah, three weeks ago. So you're back. Noon, Eastern today, Tuesday. Go check out on our YouTube page, Trent Breaking 90, the first ever Borelli cut. Thursday, we have Carnusti. So we have the squad in Scotland.

This is episode probably five or so at this point. That's insane. So we're played Carnusti, which is, you know, known in a lot of circles is the hardest course on the, the British Open rota, as they say. We got it in very benign conditions. We got lucky. We played it at like 5 o'clock at night over there. It's light out till like 11 o'clock at night. So that wasn't big of a deal. But there was very minimal wind. It was a beautiful evening. We were in like short sleeves. Still a very difficult golf course and the match rages on. Dunbarney, which came out

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and then it says actually like a TikTok on the video near hole in one and you're like oh baby let's go I hit a shot it's a great golf shot which is getting lost in the mix of all the negativity around this is a long haul shot yeah what I mean right at the flag sure

but I mean then they zoom in and it barely landed on like the fringe dribbled barely onto the green and was like 10 feet short maybe and I got hate for this too they're like Frankie said that went in it's like first of all we're 200 and 10 yards away on the T-box, however long that fucking hole was, I thought it went in. Like, when you're that far away and the ball's at the pin, you're like, go in, but you don't

make that the promo. The whole situation could not have been conveyed more inaccurately because what happened right where you're describing is like, from the T we couldn't see. So we were thinking like, did that go in because the lip of the bunker is higher than the green? So like it lands over the lip. We don't see the ball. We're like, maybe that went in.

We're all excited to then somehow believe that that's going to translate perfectly. in a fucking video where you're zoomed into a million X and you're just watching the ball coming 10 feet short. What are we doing? It's insane behavior. So, so I. That promo. I missed.

Do we know who made that? Alex, who made, who posted and wrote that promo? If it's Brendan, then we have to like publicly shame him. No, no, it wasn't.

I believe our boy coop was in his call right now is the one who made it. Wow, you're going to throw it on the intern, huh? I, I, uh, I missed all this and,

and are our folks upset about, about the framing of my video. I played golf, I played golf this weekend. and someone was like, oh, how about that, uh, that Riggs near hole in one? I was like, what do you mean? I hadn't seen it. You showed me the video.

Makes me look like an asshole. Riggs thinks you got a hole in one is 10 feet short. I didn't fucking think anything. The general public does not know that that Sam Riggs from Barstall had nothing to do with that promo. And also what's Coupe doing skiing? He's just fucking, he's around right now. He just gives a fuck in the way. He probably doesn't give a fuck.

No one gives a fuck. I also said in the group chat the other day, we've been getting the same complaints that our videos, And I don't know why this is happening. Whenever we put up a four play verse on Instagram, the video does not load. It doesn't load. I've never seen anything like it. It's not an Instagram issue. It's an us issue.

Like Dave pizza reviews upload. Every single video that we ever else put out, like whether it's a fucking podcast promo, whatever, a teaser for breaking 90, it all loads. Whenever someone tries to watch us play a hole at Bethpage Black, when I was at Bethpage, both my videos, one of Danny's, one of Riggs's, the last six videos that we've done, they don't load. And every comment's like, hey, guys, we'd like. to watch you guys play this golf hole. Why can't you just assess what's happening? So I'm doing everything I usually do on Instagram. So I'm so I had a couple, I had a couple of potts the other night at the Islander game. The Islanders won. They had another fucking comeback. Five comebacks in the last like six games. It's insane. Brock Nelson scores two goals. They're the top five team in the

NHL. So then I'm doing this. I have a couple soda pops. I look at my phone and I'm getting messages. And then I'm with my buddy Andrew who goes, you know I haven't been able to watch one of your videos like I tried to watch both of your holes at Beth page. And I just couldn't get through the video. It stops like five seconds through. And I said, that's it. So I wrote in the group, is anyone going to try and figure out why our videos don't go out? Like, this is your job, right? Like, so when you post the video, shouldn't you then- A good chuckle out of me. I saw that. Shouldn't you then, like, go check that it's working? Like, who is it Jake? Like, who is the person that's, like, not caring about if that video doesn't

work ever? It doesn't, it hasn't worked for a month. So, like, wouldn't you be like, Oh, fuck, I got to go fix this one. We need someone to edit these two together where Alex, you just unmuted yourself. What were you about to say? Yeah, I was going to say it was an issue with posting through like Facebook to Instagram and they should be fixed now. The last. Okay, but see, that to me is like, Jake said that to me the day. That's like a lazy like excuse of being like, oh, we have this easier way of shooting out all these videos to all these different platforms.

And it's just like not working on Instagram. It's like that happens six times. How many times is that going to happen? every single person that follows foreplayed Instagram has complained about this. I mean, thousands of comments. Frankie's text,

this is like 5.30 at night on Saturday. I was like sitting my first SEC game in the stands. People go like, saw this come across my radar, I laughed out loud and then just put my phone down. At some point, we're going to need someone to figure out why these Instagram videos

aren't working when we post one. Been like six straight videos where they just don't load and every comment is complaining about it. For those, for people who are in a regular, text exchange with Frankie Borelli, when he says at some point

that has translated him being like, you dumb motherfuckers need to figure it out at some point. We're running a business here, guys. This is a fucking huge podcast. And we're all like best friends in that group chat. Everyone fucking makes jokes. We all love each other. I tell Alex to go fuck himself and he laughs back at me.

It's like a really good camaraderie thing. Just a bit. At some point, we have to be serious about it. If something's not working, like that's fucking insanity. These are ads. These are sponsored videos.

Like, what are we fucking doing? We need to splice the two clips together of Frankie beginning this conversation with you guys do such an incredible job. Well, I'm amazing what you guys do. Too late. I'm glad that we started. Oh, you got to figure this out at some point? I'm glad that we started because we do praise these guys and they deserve it.

But I will say, over our history of six plus years now doing four play, I would argue that pound for pound, we might have the worst social and promo presence. of any online entity in the history of the internet. It's crazy. It's a, it's, it's, if somebody, if somebody hook me up to a lie detector test and they said, okay, you have to give me an honest, honest, honest, honest fucking answer to this. And you have to rate out of a billion, your guys, zero to a billion, your guys online promotional presence. And if you answer it accurately, we'll give you a billion dollars.

If you answer it dishonestly, this revolver will shoot you in the side of the temple. I would give it a zero out of a billion. We just have to be better. The other week, we posted a promo, a promo, just shitting basically on Justin Thomas. Like a week after he brought us to his home. Now, I get that if you bury a fucking, a conversation about like ranking the star power

of Tiger, J.T. Rory, and Speeith in a podcast, I think that's fine. It just gets buried into a show. To highlight it and basically put it in a package for JT to see a week after he gave us all these whiskeys, and beers and brought us to his house and invite us over, he's just going to log on to the internet, see our 850,000 followers on Instagram

and us being like, this guy is clearly the fourth of these people. Well, that's just us being a dickhead to him for no reason. To play devil's advocate, it is in the show. Like, I understand, I understand how much difference between packaging something up. And like, what is the, it, what I would ask for in that situation is to just weigh the potential benefits

versus the potential negatives. Like, what is the real benefit of that clip? Is that going to go crazy viral? No. Is anyone on earth from that clip that I saw going to be like, I have to listen to this show now. No, whereas the potential negative of that is like, JT is like, well, I was thinking about doing scrammed a lot,

but like, fuck those guys and just scrolls right past it. That's just not even close to something that is. It reminds me of when we like did that ad and Stephen Chee put it in the, the entire company meeting that one time where like, when you, we did this ad and it was about oars and alps. And we had a company wide meeting with Dave on it, Erica, people from like Penn. And there was no, literally everybody. Every single person. Every every barstle person you ever seen was on it. End of year meeting. It was like 400 people on the Zoom. And Stephen Chee interrupted the fucking the entire thing to basically show what a good ad read would look like.

And it was like, you know, these guys have four play. They really like to get into it. And they actually use the products. here's an example of what I found to be really good that everyone else should model themselves off of. And it was a four minute long tangent about me and my milky body and like finding a way to get this stuff to make me smell better because I'm like sweaty and I'm sexy. It's like it was crazy. And like in the context. Talking about having your legs straight up in the air. Yeah. And like putting dude wipes on your.

It was like, so I'm like, all right, in the context of the podcast, that's funny. You're listening for two hours. I'll get into the thing. When you take it out of context and you place it in a setting like that, it's the most outrageously embarrassing, horrific thing I've ever heard. So I just feel like that sometimes happens with our promos where it's like, I say absurd shit sometimes. And then they're just like, here's the five seconds of absurd shit this guy said.

And here's the golf podcast for today. I'm like, well, that's not really what we talked about at all. It's just like one second of me being a fucking. idiot. It's crazy. We're having a, we're having a real meeting here. I would say the onus does fall on us to a degree where the communication could be when we think we have a clip, like say, I want this clip. Like right now, the system is we yell on microphones. We send all the audio to our guys. They then decide what the promos are going to be. We as guys who have been on the internet for over a decade now know what's going to pop and what's not, which should probably give

them a heads up and be like, let's make this a clip because I think that's going to get some traction. That makes a good point. And they do send it to us the day before. So like they like Alex will always send them in the night before. They haven't been bad. Like they're not bad. It's just sometimes we get screwed by our own guys. But I think that's the case with a lot of people at bars. I mean, Dave has made a fucking history of doing this where he's like, I don't know who the fuck posted this from my own Twitter. But like they're fired now. I mean, I was on the other side of that being making sure that everything that I ever put out from his name was like a hundred percent approved by him. And then sometimes he just wouldn't answer me.

I'm like, I got to post this. I don't even know if he likes this. It's fucking crazy. I agree with you, Trent, definitely. Like, we're saying this stuff. And it's it. But at some point, it's like you got to, like, if you just,

if you have to overlook every single thing that's created, then it's like you're just creating more work for yourself. So at some point, you'd like folks to have a certain level of judgment. And on, on the long form videos and all that, it's fucking phenomenal. I think on promos it really lacks. And I will say to now put a bow on that, we hired a new social guy. So we have hired,

what's our guy's name, Alex? What's our new guy's name? Ryan. Ryan, so we hired a new social guy. I interviewed him a few weeks ago. He wore a taro-made hat in the interview, so obviously I hired him. Great guy.

Hopefully he comes to me, shitting his pants. Great background. Great background. We're just going to absolutely ream you if you screw us. We have a new guy who's, kind of overseeing all of our social. I think our social could be a million times better. It's been driving us insane for years, really, that if you go through and you look at our

four play channel right now, the only thing that gets posted on our Instagram is us. It's crazy. His name's Rob, not Ryan. That's what Jake said. Yeah, my dad has been hired. Nice work there, Coup. That's good start. I've called him. I've called him Ryan like four times. That's how that's fucking Alex, man. His brain is mush because the fucking bills have lost two weeks in a row. And now they, they don't even hold their own destiny and their own division. That's a fucking joke. Oh, they're in a,

where do you stand on the, where do you stand on the safety situation yesterday? Alex Bush. It's just all bad. That's all bad. But I mean, we play the, uh,

the dolphins and the jets once, you know, we, we can beat them and then it's all back, you know. Would you have taken a safety on that play? Would you have taken a safety on that play? I don't know if I would have taken a safety.

I would have the center actually snap into the quarterback. That would be the first thing I would do. But I honestly would have, I would have just, I wanted them to just, you know, pass, make like a slant pass or something like that, just get five yards and kneel a ball. You don't take a safety.

No, there's anyone here that same. Because then you lose on a field ball. You just QB sneak. You get the ball. He's six foot eight. He falls forward. The game's over. Yeah, you just snap it to the quarterback.

My whole thing is like, all right, obviously you have to try and exclude the option of dropping the ball. Like you can never have that be like a thought in your head. You're like, we're going to obviously snap this ball of the quarterback. If you don't, it's a horrific mistake. But that can't be like your coaching decision. Like maybe he's. fucking drops it. So you have to say, if we're going to just fucking kneel this thing in the end

zone and take a safety, why not even try and run the ball? Because if he gets stopped behind the line, it's a safety. And then- Same thing that you're doing. It's the same thing. So why not attempt to get out into the play? Like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard anyone ever fucking assume that a coach would say, we're just going to give up the chance here because maybe he drops the ball. And they, hey, he dropped the ball and they still had a chance to win at the end of the game. So, I mean, it doesn't matter. Like, you have to try. Yeah. I mean, they lost the game about four times in 30 minutes. So it's just bad.

You can't take the safety. That's just rolling over and making the other coach. No, they're a team that gives up points with 13 seconds left. I don't think it's safety, you know, being able to lose by a field goal is what you want. No, no. Video games, boys, I'm back in the video game department. Alex Bush has got me dialed in on my Xbox, which is nice, so much faster than the old one. I can't even imagine.

And when I play 2K, I'm amazed at how much faster it is. So, you don't sit there and wait in between. holes for things to load, whatever. It's like you put out, bang, you're just on the tee. It's phenomenal. The game is so realistic. It's actually frustratingly realistic. We talk about getting mad on the show when you're playing golf and trying to hit shots. The game, you get frustrated with yourself, if your swings a little bit too quick, whatever, it's a true competition of golf, and you can play so many golf courses that got a bunch in the game that they obviously brought, that were professionally done, and then you can create your own. Frankie has a couple courses

that are iconic at this point that he's created on his own over the years. I know my dad's going to pop pop in in this camera right now. That's exciting. Where's Mr. Borelli? I know it. Coming down the hallway right now. There he is. Here's a shadow.

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That's crazy. Bigger than they are. And then we always get these, well, there's like regulation. Well, they have to play by the same rules that we have to play by it. Instagram doesn't just change it for who you like. Everybody's playing by the same rules. So that's driven me nuts forever. So all of us nuts.

So anyways, we hired a new social guy, Rob, not Ryan. Welcome, Rob. I believe last week was his first week. He was doing a very, he was observing, seeing what's going on, watching, you know, daily nights. Why is one get 150,000 views? The other one gets 30,000.

of views. Foreplayverse. How come you can't watch it past the first second? He's like focusing, observing our whole situation, coming up with the plan. And then in, you know, our talks, it was like, we need a different plan for TikTok. They need you for Instagram. They need you for Twitter and stories and the whole deal. So in theory, we have hired a human being, Rob, who's going to oversee our entire social

operation and hopefully get us in a better. Which is what we've needed because we have guys that wear many hats. And that's just the bar of house problem that we have that's like behind the scenes is like guys do a million different things. Jake does a million different things. All these guys do a million different things. We've never had a guy that like legit has to focus on one brand, one social media. Even our old social media guys have always worked on a million other brands while working on ours.

So it's like when they go through their list of things to do, they're getting bombarded with all these other ads. They have to do for other podcasts and stuff. So it is nice to now, what is it, Rob or Ryan? Rob, Rob, right. Rob, Rob, right. Okay. Rob Ryan, Ryan. And to, you know, like when you, we talk about Mr. Beast on this show, who's the biggest YouTube creator ever, hundreds of millions of views.

and all their videos. And he, a couple weeks ago, I saw an interesting tidbit where they have like a team of over 20 people that decide the just the cover photo for every video. And they have like 20 or 30 different iterations. And my point saying that is like clearly for our social channels, which is a huge part of our business, we need an expert in there who's going to oversee who's going to say these promos need to tweak this way. You need to start it with this clip, not that clip.

And just fucking understand social trends and all that shit because we obviously, we can run our own personals and have our own little instincts and whatnot. But in terms of our business accounts, foreplay accounts, which have a ton of followers, we could be more optimized. That's actually interesting. I want to ask you about that, rig.

So you view foreplay social as not just a vehicle to promote our own content, but sort of like a destination for golf fans in general. Yes, because I view it as if you only promote our stuff, then if you're a follower of that, unless you're one of our hardcore followers, we're not going to grow that much. And I think you're not going to like the account that much.

Whereas like if we, if we're known for posting all kinds of good shit in the golf world and we promote our own stuff, you're going to be more likely to view our promotional stuff because you just like everything that we put out. And it's like if it's just promotional shit, eventually you get to the point where you're like, all right,

this is just them promoting themselves. I'm over this. And that is how the account grew originally. It was all viral golf stuff with promotional stuff. mixed in and you get tagged from the main account and blah, blah, blah. So I think going back to that is a good idea because of the reasons that Riggs just laid out. It helps growth. Yeah, I had this conversation with one of the Barstool social people because they've had a shift too, right?

Where like the Barstool main account, I think initially was a lot of these viral videos and stuff. But they were saying that like the Instagram algorithm wants you to do more original content. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? Whereas now there's Viva LaSool, which is more like inside barstool. And there's all these different like subjects. Jake said something about like he can't post like viral. I mean like user submitted clips as much anymore. I don't know if that's like an Instagram like guidelines rule thing.

I don't know. I think what happened was- I think they want to incentivize people to like make their own content as opposed to just I just know this. If I go click on Zyar Golf, zero of their posts are of themselves and they have 1.4 million followers and do an extremely good job. So it's like why can't we just do both? We post like one or two clips of us a day, especially on the weekends or on like a Monday

when the podcast doesn't go out, like a couple clips of us a day and nothing else. So it's like, well, what that social person? What are they doing the other 15 hours of the day? It's also like what I just says probably just not true. Like you're definitely able to just post like, totally. And like, user similar things like Joe Burrow was behind this, this wedding, uh,

and this couple was taking wedding photos and Joe Burroughs just golfing behind them. And that just has like 700,000 views. It's just the easy to go on our account. Like we also need to be the account where like the, the, whoever took the screenshot of that Snapchat of, Charlie and Tiger, that instinct that person should have is, I got to send this to four play. Not to be like that. It used to be like.

Right. That needs to be. So we need someone hungry in the DMs chasing so that it becomes instinctual for everyone in the golf world that like, I got to get this post on four play pod golf. Not on all these other accounts. And then why can't it be a mix? It's a fucking, you got 24 hours in a day. If we got somebody that's hustling their cock off or vagina off or whatever they are, then that person is going to be able to be the best golf. account in the world while also posting our shit.

100%. And you got a pretty good head start. It's got like 850,000 followers already. You're way ahead of the starting. We're handing you an account that now needs to be a viral, sensational golf account that has an 850,000 followers already. You know how hard that is to start from zero? Like most companies would be like, hey, we're hiring this new social media guy.

Please just grow us on Instagram. Like we have 10,000 followers. We one day want to have 100,000. Like, dude, we're just. get us to a million and we're fucking rolling let's go we're right there we already got you almost out the door this put from a spyglass hill which we've all played that fourth hole at spyglass that's got the bacon strip green that everybody everybody's posting that everywhere like that should be on our account and with our own little caption our own no it's me talking about

my tiny little nipples like i mean you know which could also be up there once in a while but like yeah i yeah it'd be like could you know you should put a caption like could riggs's horrific stroke ever make this put. And it's like, bang, that just goes on our account. Why is it on everybody else? Since we're doing this meeting live on a podcast to all our hundreds of thousands of listeners, I mean, this is the oversaturation of our posts on our own Instagram and social media makes me want to watch it less of my own stuff, where it's like I don't even, it's almost like everything. If you post 15 videos of us saying something from a podcast, it makes me want to not listen to the podcast because you're, it's just like oversaturating stuff and making it feel like a moment and like a big thing.

It's like, dude, it was just a podcast from Tuesday. Like, that's okay. And that's what it's always just going to be. But like, unless it's a fucking huge moment, I don't need to see it every two seconds or else it's going to feel like it's not important. You know what I mean? So I always feel like I don't even want to watch my own clips. It's like, oh, what? Like, we just talked about nothing that time.

It's just fucking offseason golf. That's the only thing we're posting all day long. It's hard. Totally. And like you can, Dan, to kind of your original question, right, like the Instagram story for Foreplay. I think the Instagram story every day should have like six to 12. post that should be a mix of like if we're on a trip together it should be that stuff with Brendan does a great job of if we're recording the podcast take a couple clips of like what it

looks like here and I could even like Zach or our social person be like take this it's like this is what rig set up looks like and then you mix that in with like boom a merch promo well now you're in the story you're finding this shit interesting this is what it looks like from trince vantage point you're more likely to be watching that story day and day out because it's interesting unique content and then you also when we do hit you with that merch promo it's not only merch promos. It's like you're kind of in the story. It's more natural to view it. You also like the whole concept of the store and you're more likely to buy the shit. It works like Frankie's saying, if you're like oversaturated, you're like, ugh, I just watch Riggs say the same thing 11 times. Now I'm

going to buy the fucking the sweater he's wearing. No chance. So it's like just trying to get it better. And the story should be different than the TikTok feed, then the Instagram post should be different than the Twitter feed. That's why I'm hiring a social person. I kind of want to, I kind of want to bring Ryan. I got some questions for him. It's Rob. We, um, Rob, Rob, we, um, Rob? I thought it was right. Also, we are the worst communicators in the world. So people that are in our like, like, like, well, this is the first time I've heard all of this in a long, long time. So like, they thought things are going pretty good. And I think things have been going pretty well. They've done a great job. It's just there, there's a, there's a way and an avenue for us to go down now that, like,

we need to change things up. There's no doubt about it. Like, we have all the pieces there. We're doing a lot of stuff. Dude, this week, we have a breaking 90 and a Cardoosie video coming out on our YouTube page. Like, we're back to like what I want to. us to get to. That's why I was editing breaking 90. I want things to come out. Like, I want us to consume your golf brain on YouTube where it's just like, all right, I get to watch this guy trying to break 90. And then I get to watch them play one of the best golf courses than planet. And then the next week you get to do it again. And it's not just the same fucking bullshit of us talking on a podcast or us just slinging a fucking hoodie. Like, it's just like this is that this is what we're

supposed to be. And I just want to get there on social also. Yeah. Yeah. Look, we want to be the best. I agree with you. We want to be the best everywhere. We want to be the best on fucking YouTube. It's like we don't want good, good to be bigger than we are. We want to be better than You've got to be able to try. They're currently better at Twitter at YouTube than we are. So like how the fuck do we get better? And then it's the same with social. Same with writing and same with podcasting.

It's like we just want to be fucking massive everywhere. So we are really, really good at a lot of it. Some of it we fucking suck at. And so here we are. That's kind of our business. That was our meeting. That's a good meeting,

I think. That's all business. We love all these guys. You know, we travel the world with these guys. And they do an amazing job. But like, we have to figure out how to keep fucking evolving.

So fuck you, Alex. God damn right. Yeah, fuck you too, Frankie. There we go. I have to give a couple shoutouts. Our guy, Corey Kisper, text me the other night, and he just said, what? He said, a box score.

And I was like, what does that mean? I thought maybe I didn't know if, like, the Zags, like, played Harvard. I didn't really know what was going on. Well, he had an ankle injury, missed, like, the first month in the season, came back. I saw he had 18 points. He was four for four from three the other night. Big win for the whiz, which is my NBA team at this point. I think I'm getting the head cover of the whiz.

So shout to Corey Kisper, big fan of the program. He listens to every show. So shout to our guy. He's back, came back from an ankle injury, playing really well. We had him on live at Mesa Country Club here in Arizona. Enormous golf guy. Beautiful, beautiful human being, too. Gorgeous.

It's great. I think he's engaged now. So he's just one of those guys. He's tall. Another basketball player, right? She played at, I forget what college she played at, but like, they post videos of them, like, like, he's, like, boxing her out in the paint. And then she like turns around

hits like a fucking fadeaway three. It's like the craziest shit I've ever seen. She had Gonzaga as well. Possibly. No, maybe it was Wisconsin. I could be wrong. Okay. I don't know.

But yeah, you're right. He's like one of those. He almost, he's like a Calamorkawa type where it's just like he's gorgeous. His, his fiancee now gorgeous. He's tall.

He's athletic. He's making a bunch of money. He's fucking scoring 18 points and going four from four from the three point line. He's got everything going for him. And he's a fan of the program. So shout out to our guy. And then a few things I wanted to get. into, which is I went to my first SEC football game this last weekend.

So I went to Auburn. Overall experience, just phenomenal. You know, it's a different world for me. I've lived in the Northeast for 15 years. SEC couldn't be further away from that. The fact that it was two, three, and six teams playing against each other, you're a little bit worried going in. It was Auburn hosting A&M Saturday night, 630 in Auburn, Alabama.

You would have thought it's the fucking World Cup final the entire week. I mean, nobody gave a shit whatsoever. Cadillac Williams who, so they Auburn got rid of their coach a couple weeks ago. Cadillac Williams was like their running back coach who I guess didn't, you know, didn't get as much love as he, as people would have liked. Then all of a sudden, coach gets fired. They're in an interim situation. They really want to get Lane Kiffin, all that.

But Cadillac Williams is their head coach now. And he is the players coach. He came out, arms locked with his players after the game. They won 1310 and what looked like it might as well have been a big 10 football game. It was cold as fuck. no offense. It was just like a grind of a game. They win.

He's literally running around the field, standing up to the fan section, going nuts. The whole theatrics, Frankie, this made me think of you the whole time. The whole theatrics from start to finish. Obviously, tailgate all day, whole deal. Very, like, pretty calm. But I guess, you know,

Auburn is, it's just such a nice part of the country. People are just so nice. Everyone's friendly. Every tailgate you walk by, they've got, you know, food spreads everywhere. They're inviting you over it. Even if they were Aggies walking around, they'd throw like a fun, like lighthearted chirp

and then invite the Aggies over to have some of their like Buffalo chicken dip. And the whole deal, they do the Tiger Walk two hours before. So you get like kind of the ROTC and military press comes through. Then the cheerleaders come through. Then Cadillac Williams comes through the head coach in his plaid fucking suit. Everybody's going crazy lined up like it's the people were returning from like World War II out there going just nuts. And then we get into the stadium an hour before and like 20 minutes before. they tell you the whole story of the eagle and war eagle

the fucking eagle comes out flies around the stadium and everybody's going oh and then lands right in midfield everybody goes crazy when the eagle lands and then the jumbotron zooms in on the eagle the whole time and the eagle's just looking around like I'm a fucking eagle how did I end up here so the whole theatrics leading up to it electric then they right before

they kind of get into like the national anthem the band because the one negative was they had this this like guy come out and do chance, like, you know, and he was like, it was super corny. He was like, Mr. Chant guy. And he's coming out like, all right, you guys over there, you're going to chant this. Oh, God. When you got to walk him through, you got to stop. Come on.

It was, it was the only negative of the whole thing. And the students knew it too. They're like, this part sucks. They're just kind of like this part out. And he was like, all the alumni are going to go war. And then all the students are going to go eagle. Everyone's like, you know, get this fucking dork off the thing. So that was the only negative.

But then they start, they turn out the light. So like 10 minutes before, all the lights go out except like, you know, they got like the light on the American flag and the Jumbo Tron. The teams come running out. Cadillac comes running out. Arms locked in with the, with his players. Everybody's going bananas. You can't help but be locked in the moment. I'm getting the chills here.

And again, it's two, three and six teams. So you're kind of like, this couldn't mean less in the scope. this is the only thing anybody in the world in this state at this point, uh, cared about phenomenal with the band comes out and they did God, uh, God bless America. The whole crowd sings every fucking word. Obviously, they do national anthem.

Everybody's going crazy. And then I got to give a shout out to the MC. I, you don't, I couldn't stop thinking about this guy that emcees this whole thing. This guy was amazing. He might have the most cumbersome job for five straight hours. This guy is announcing on the, you know, on the, throughout the whole stadium.

He's announcing every play in real time. So, like, the second that Tank Biggsby's, like, knee hits the ground, he's, like, four-yard gain to the right tackle by 29 on the Aggies, and he knows that guy's name. And then he's right into, like, if they have, like, a TV timeout, they bring the whole, like, the whole gymnastics team won or finished Final Four the year before. So the entire gymnastics team lines up in the end zone. And this fucking MC announces every name perfectly from the gymnastics team,

every coach. And then as soon as they're off the field, he's like, oh, he drops back Ashford and it's a four yard throw to the left side. He's like, he's just nailing it. He was like an older guy at a perfect MC voice, didn't mess up the whole night. So I as like guy, it's in an entertainment kind of industry,

I was blown away at the MC and his job the entire night. And then they do between the third, at the end of the third quarter, they did, they do a light show. So I mean, Auburn's up like 10 nothing at this point. and they do a light show. And the whole team like runs on to the field. They're fucking waving to house in the air.

Everybody's going crazy. They do a light show. And then they end up winning. I responsibly on the Barstville Sportsbook put one of my larger wagers on Auburn to win money line. It was like a one and a half point favorites. It was like minus 120 or something to win. So I was pretty into every single play. They get the W.

All the players run over. They're jumping into the fan section. Again, now they're four and six. Everybody's going absolutely crazy. Huge. Cadillac does all his interviews. They pour, you know, the gatorade all over them. It's like 38, 42 degrees out at this point.

So everybody's freezing. Shout to the, um, the halftime show. They made these fucking cheerleader girls run out there. And I mean, everyone in the crowd, even like, I had probably four layers on. I got like a jacket all from Peter Mall. I got like, people got beanies on. They're still freezing. These girls are out there.

Basically in bikinis running around for like 15 minutes standing there. I can't believe they had to get. go out and do this, so shout out to them. But then after, it's like whatever it is, tumors place where they go and everybody TPs the trees in kind of the main courtyard. So we went, I grabbed the toilet, you know, I'm throwing toilet paper over the trees, the whole goddamn deal. So it was awesome.

First SEC experience. I'm one and oh. And you really, you realize when you're there that it's just, it's, it's, in one way, you think of like, I think of Auburn, Alabama as like a different world. And it's just, you realize it's just the same people. huge barstool presence. I wasn't sure if anybody's because like we're kind of do the golf thing now, whatever. Huge barstool presence.

People love that, which was always really, really cool and humbling. And then on the other end of it, it's completely different than that. Football is just the only thing that matters there for three months or four months of the year. I mean the only thing. It's like the night before the basketball team was playing. And I did hear the basketball games are great. They were home. They're like 20th in the country or something.

But everyone at the bar, no one's paying attention. Everybody's talking about like you think Cadillac can get his first win tomorrow night. And it's literally just two fucking three and six teams playing the next day. And that's the only thing that people care about. So football completely king there. But it was fucking awesome. I went to Sky Bar, which is the,

I think was ranked the number one like college bar in the country or maybe the SEC. We went there Friday night. I will say on a game day weekend, everybody's warning me like, I don't think this is going to be your scene. It was a little bit like, you know, I was grandpa like, hey kids,

you know, at the bar. But it was, I mean, you couldn't move. you couldn't even move shoulder to shoulder. I imagine if I was in college, I was some frat boy, had been drinking all day.

It'd be the best place on planet Earth. They had like seven different rooms. They had like DJs. And then the other room you go into, they got a country band. It was a whole fucking scene. So that bar, yes, I imagine if you're in college was phenomenal.

For me, I was like the end of the night. So yeah, we're out of here, see you later. But yeah, Auburn, super cool town,

the campus, seeing campus. I remember we went to Oregon last year. We were at Bandon and just walking around a college campus, seeing a stadium, I'm seeing like even just academic buildings that are old school and they got the different traditions is so fucking cool. And doing it at Auburn, SEC school.

They've won two national championships and football. It was just as cool as it could be in there. That's pretty awesome. It's nice to hear about the three and six thing because I feel like with college football, sometimes if you're like a half-ass fan like I am with Northwestern, it's like they lose a couple games and I'm just checked out. So to hear that they were three and six and they were still that locked in, that shows you how much it matters.

And I'm sold out. And I'm jealous. My, uh, my fiance's sister was a cheerleader in Alabama, but we never went to a game. And I really, really want to go to an SEC football game.

And now you're telling me, you know, you're trying to time it, right? I was thinking like, we looked at going to the Tennessee, Georgia game, but the tickets were like a jillion dollars

because of the two best teams. I was thinking, oh, you have to time it. After hearing this, I'm like, it doesn't really matter what the teams are,

what the records are. You just got to be there. I was worried about that going in. I was like, you know, I mean, dude, sold out, 87,

thousand four hundred and fifty one people sold out i mean the top like the second half the top top kind of uh bleachers started to dwindle because it was so cold and those people were just exposed to the wind it was cold as fuck out there uh so it started to dwindle a little bit the whole theatrics at the beginning the whole first quarter second quarter packed to the gills people chanting like they couldn't have cared less everybody's going nuts and there was a lot of hype I think a few weeks ago it probably would have been a little bit less because people knew the coach is getting fired or he wasn't good and everybody's bickering. The hype for Cadillac was was off the charts. He's running back there.

He had all kinds of clips there playing. Did he Madag Williams? I remember having Cadillac on my fantasy teams. He was on the box. Every dude, every play he was running down the sideline going, let's go like every play. So the stadium, uh, Jordan Hare was nuts. It was electric. It was awesome.

So yeah, I want to try to go to an SEC game every year. Or, I mean, even you go to a couple of big 10 games. I imagine it's pretty similar. But yeah, it was fucking sweet. It was, it lived up to the hype. All right. I got to say I'm feeling very good, very fresh this morning. And I know that.

Well, I knew that. I had a good feeling about that, but it was confirmed. When I looked at my whoop the last couple days, fellas, look at these just towers of green right there. And obviously, that was a little. Friday night at Auburn situation when I woke up in the red the other day. But this puppy tells you, this puppy tells you, and I'm talking about the whoop. I'm charging my right now. I got this cool green one on, throwing a little charge on it.

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a Shane Gillis show and Town Hall in Manhattan stand-up show. Just phenomenal. Really, really funny, funny, funny stuff. If you haven't watched his special live in Austin on YouTube, just do that today or tonight whenever you get a chance. One of the funniest people on the planet

and we got tickets and we just went and it was so good. It was so good. Trent, so I was like late. I was walking up towards town hall. It's like kind of in Times Square. Trent got there. You were late for me. Well, well, compared to where he got there. You got there like an hour before, but I got there like 15 minutes before. So I'm walking up and he got a chance to see Shane Gillis right before. And Shane like embraced him, hugged him and was like, dude, like awesome that you're here right now. Like can't wait. I was waiting. I was waiting outside the venue for Frankie. And I was a little early. And I was just hanging. There were a bunch of people like waiting in line or whatever. And I feel a tap on my shoulder and I turn and it's Shane Gillis. And I was like, holy shit. And we embraced. We know him a little bit. We had done Friday Night Pinesk, the Caves He Radio show from the office, met him then.

And he's, he's barstool friendly. So he's done son of a boy dad, Kaves He Radio. And we've run into him in the office and said hello. So we were familiar, but it was crazy to run into him like right before the show. He was walking in, going to go backstage and wait and then go on stage. It was, um, yeah, it was cool to run into him. He's a really nice guy. It was funny.

We were like, um, so we were, messaging him right before and he's like yeah I was like we'd love to come like say what up after the show and he's like dude absolutely the whole thing and then saw Trent and he's like dude after the show we're going to go to a bar like oh man this is going to be a night like Shane Gillis we're going to go to a bar. Imagine that guy just telling bar stories just like like loobing up on bud lights and just fucking going crazy who knows what he's going to it's comedy uh comedy festival so like who knows who's going to be in town could be all the guys from all our favorite podcast this is going to be insane so we're kind of like waiting around like I went and got McDonald's because I was

starving after. I'm like, all right, we'll just wait for him to message us back. We're like seeing if he's reading it on Instagram. We're like, oh, maybe we'll fucking just hang out and see. And like a couple. I know this game. You guys are strategizing. Too many minutes of God bottle. We're like at some point we got to figure out like when we're just going to just cut our like just just just just cut this. Just just cut this. The JT situation all over again. Half hour is gone by. Like we're just like, all right. An hour might come real quick and we just can't do this. Because Frankie and I got to go back to Long Island. We got to drive all the way back.

A long trip back. So finally we just pull the plug on it and we're like, whatever. And then as we're on our way at home, we get a message being like, hey guys, like, sorry, just saw this, like, couldn't make it. Had to run after the show. Like, just like couldn't go out. So then we're like, no problem, dude, whatever we go on with our day. It was fine.

We didn't wait that long. It is what it is. So now the next day he posted an Instagram story, Instagram post at Trent Sends to me. He was with Dave Chappelle. So like, obviously that's why he couldn't fucking. Couldn't make it. Dude, he posted a picture of him and Dave Chappelle smiling and fucking dapping up at like the fucking comedy seller. And it's just like, all right. Right.

Of course, like you're just going to, you're going to not answer us and you're going to go do that thing. That's like an all time moment for Shane Gillis. Listen, that's a little bit more important hanging out with Dave Chappelle than hanging out with Frankie and Trent from the four play golf podcast. And we totally good that. You guys were, though, to hang out with Dave Chappelle. No, but I texted Frankie too because we went back a little back and forth being like, can you believe this? And I was like there was a 0.0% chance Shane was going to bring us to wherever he was going to hang out with Dave Chappelle. Right.

And quite honestly, I don't think I deserve to meet Dave Chappelle. He is one of those guys where he is such a mythical creature. Like I love stand-up so much. And the Chappelle show was such a part of my youth that I genuinely don't think I deserve to meet Dave Chappelle. Right. You don't even deserve to meet him, you're saying. No. Dude, he is, he's fucking Dave Chappelle, man.

I know. Said the same thing about Tiger, though. do you think it crossed Shane's radar or thought process at all? Like should I bring these guys here? I think he probably, I think after the show, he went backstage and they're like, dude, we got to go to this place like Dave, like, we're going to go hang out with Dave. And he's like, fuck yeah, let's go and just got in a car and went. And then didn't even look at his phone because he was so fucking jacked up that he's going to go fucking hang out with Dave Chappelle.

Right. That's the flip there is he becomes Frankie and Trent in that scenario. He's viewing, he's viewing hanging out with Trent in the same way that you guys are viewing out, hanging out with him. 100%. He probably enjoys feeling those butterfell. flies and he didn't even think about you guys for half a second. It's totally fine.

The show was great. The show was amazing. He's so funny. I can't wait for his new hour to come out. Yeah. And if you can hang out with Dave Chappelle, go hang out with Dave Chappelle. You don't have to hang out with us. All day, every day.

Yeah, that's, you know, that's a, you make that decision a million times out of a million, I would say. A couple more logistical things I want to go through. Thanksgiving week. So next, next week is Thanksgiving week, which is shocking that that's coming up already, but it is. We're doing one show next week. It's going to be a big one. We're going to have Webb Simpson on that show. So next Tuesday, putting out our Thanksgiving week podcast, Web Simpson.

And I believe that same day, which is next Monday, we're also recording with Harris English. We're going to put that out a few weeks after. So we got a big week next week in terms of the podcast, but one show. And it's going to be a big one. WebSense. We talked about a lot. We told stories. We called him vanilla pudding.

And then we did full circle like we always do a tail between the legs and called him the nicest guy ever. I'm excited to have him on. he's won U.S. Open. He won players. He's been a big part of the international teams for years. We saw him with the head, you know, the headset on. He got us a dinner reservation, the whole deal. So I'm excited to talk to Webb Simpson.

And then Black Friday, Cyber Monday. So start just if you're out there, you're a little four-play listener. I know we just talked about merch and promos and all that. Start to get your little spicy sets up. Get your credit cards, you know, ready. If you got the, you know, it's November 15th. I know it's payday. be smart with your coin the next few weeks because Black Friday, all the way through Cyber Monday,

we do 20% off across the site. This is gear that we've been working on all year long. Some of this shit takes a year to plan out. We come up with the mockups. We order it. It takes a year. There's production delays. They get put on a ship.

That ship travels across the ocean to bring this stuff here so that we can sell it Black Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday. So all that's going to be coming out next, obviously, like midnight, I believe, usually on Thursday night. bang, we activate Black Friday. So just want to put that on your radar out. We will be doing contests again. I know that Riggs ran his own and Trent and I ran his own. Maybe Danny can come up with one this year where if you spend a certain amount of money,

you will be thrown into this contest and then we will pick a winner and we will give you an experience. This year we did Tony Ball Sack, Anthony Testy and his boy Beef, which was Angus. Yep. Angus. They were from Connecticut. They had the time of their lives. We had the time of our lives. It was the most fun contest, like celebration of all time.

We had an amazing day at Colonial and Apparelli. So that is going to be up on the table again that we are going to be offering those experiences. I think Riggs gave away a couple of fucking nights at the Riggs cottage last year. Yeah, I did the Pioneer's house. I did two where you got, I think you got three nights, two different groups. Both those groups came. Actually, they won. I still have.

We have like this little section of the house that's got cool memorabilia that people left behind where they signed stuff, whatever. And they bought in the pro shop, the first group, that won the Cyber Monday sweepstakes last year. I think you had to spend $100 or more and then you got entered in and we picked people at random. First group, they bought a Pinehurst license plate that they have in the pro shop and then they all signed it and wrote first ever cottage guests on there. So we still have that in the home. So yeah, we did that. I'm going to give away definitely another stay at the Pinehurst house. And then I'm going to do what you guys did, probably a five some I'll go. So myself and four guys at Greyhawk Golf Club, which is, you know, 10 minutes away from

my apartment. It's easy for me. And they'll let me go out there for free so I don't have to pay for it, which is sweet. And so people can just come out. So I'll probably do a couple different giveaways. I'll do the I'll do a couple of sweepstakes. I'll do the house stay for a group of up to eight, we'll call it. And then for three nights. And then we'll also do a full round day on me, which I don't have to pay for at Greyhawk, which is you don't have to pay for them either. No, no, no, no. Greyhawk, they're the best up there. I got this little, they gave me this cards called I'm a black team member. So I get full range access. which is nice.

And then I can pretty much, what they do is they book, they always keep starter times, you know, to dictate pace of play. And usually if I hit them up, they're so nice to me up there. I love those guys.

Travis and Shue and my squad up at Greyhawk, that they'll let me slide into one of those, one of those times. So when you see me posted on Instagram, I post on Twitter, all these pictures of Greyhawk, that's me saying thank you. Yeah.

Got it. I don't know exactly the mechanism for running a contest. I don't get people just like DMU their receipts. But yeah, I'll announce. I'll do a force on a Quaker Ridge, golf club, my own club in New York. Yeah.

Which is a, you know, a really good private golf course. You get on there. How'd you get out there, Frankie? Yeah, exactly. Wait, you guys, you guys played up on my neck. I can't believe. You guys played my golf course? Yeah.

So, so I can't, I can't bring four because that's against the rules. But you and two of your buddies are three-sum at Quakeridge Golf Club. We'll decide how much you got to, it's an expensive one. So we got to decide how much you got to pay to qualify. But, yeah, I'll be taking three, three people to Quaker. That's an elite. That's an elite gift. Trend and I'm going to step it up.

Colonial, I mean, you know, colonial. I mean, I love it. You guys got two. You guys got two, two people. I'm only one.

True, true. Wow. That's fucking good, man. Looks sweet. So yeah, we got, yeah, we got, it's unbelievable.

Get fired up. Coming up, we got Black Friday, that whole weekend. Things are 20% off throughout the whole weekend. And then we usually on Cyber Monday, we, uh, we release a few more special items so that they don't, you know,

get, uh, all sold out, whatever Friday right away. So if you miss that, Monday, you can still get some unique exclusive items that aren't going to be available. So pay attention.

That's coming up next week. Thanksgiving. I'm going to be home in St. Louis for a few days. Very excited. I'd see my nephew and niece. How about my nephew now is six? My niece is going to be three pretty soon, which is just.

I got a six-year-old nephew too. He's a real, they talk, they have opinions, they're real people. Great age. Great, great age.

He knows, yeah, I remember we were at, we were in Colorado visiting my parents. We were in Boulder a few months ago. And they have, you know, I mean, it's, it's obviously Colorado, the buffalo is the whole deal.

And there's like a big, uh, cool statue of an animal in the middle of town. And I think my brother walked up. He's like, oh, yeah, look, Robbie. There's that cool buffalo. And he just goes, dad, that's a bison. And he's just right at that age. Uh, where yeah, he just knows more stuff. It's like the, you know, you're smarter than a fifth grade.

It's like there, he's literally, if you did a trip, pure trivia on just knowledge that you're supposed to have at that. But the things that he knows that I would just never know. He knows every kind of dinosaur of all time. So yeah, we have youth clothing as well. My niece this weekend was rocking all kinds of barstool stuff. So that's available if you're a parent out there. So just get ready for Black Friday, Saturday, Saturday, Sunday. Great time.

All kinds of good stuff coming up. By the way, speaking of Colonial, first of all, I think we're going to be doing a Barstall classic there next year, which is insane. That's going to be a lot of fun. And then second of all, I have a bunch of my buddies coming to play golf on Friday. It's one of these things that I was like, hey, I want to do an end of the season, at Colonial will like have dinner we'll go by the fire pits we're going to do the whole thing like an end of season bang hopefully get two groups out there and then last weekend was like 65 degrees

in New York it was fucking awesome 70 I played in short sleeves on Saturday now it's like the week that I picked it's going to be like 28 degrees 30 degrees maybe snowing um so I don't know how to really prepare for that it's just one of those things that like we're just we're going to do I got guys coming in from Jersey I got everyone coming in you just have to do it we're going to have to get cold maybe you just play nine well hopefully that's kind of part of it I think feel like a lot of these like a lot of these Thanksgiving challenges it's like you you want kind of want it to be like 33 degrees yeah it's gonna be ground it's windy out colonial too so it's gonna be cold i've been doing this like end of season bit like online and stuff and making videos being like

this end of the season don't make fun of me and it just the weather just keeps getting nicer so this i think was like my third last round of the year on Saturday I played in short sleeves and i knew this one was i mean it was what november 10th and it was 70 degrees I knew this one was going to be like probably the actual last one of the year. So I just got a little drunky out there. Oh, what a fucking day, man. Wow. And so I figured I gave myself a little bit of credit.

Got banged up. Shot like four or five over like nothing crazy. Nothing to right home about. Just a great day. Just a great day. Speaking of tequila, anyone's seen how good Shane Mooney looks? Do you guys follow him on Instagram?

The guys lost like 100-something pounds. It's fucking crazy. Holy shit. He looks fantastic. From the time that we first met him like a couple of years ago, right in the, I guess it was like the peak of the pandemic, right? Is when we first got them on.

Because it was definitely like an at-home interview. We did it during Zoom. over Zoom. Yep. He's lost so much way since then. Like he's a totally different person. He looks completely different. He looks amazing.

So I had to shout him out. The guy looks fucking phenomenal. He does. It's inspiring. Honestly, it is. It is. It's hot.

He looks crazy. He's hot, just stunning guy. And if we're going to do last, last thing I get talked about over the weekend is, I had a big golf match on Thursday before I went to Auburn. My cousin Jeff was in town. Great dude.

Funny group of people that he always hangs out with. with a Missou kid came out here for his bachelor party. They had a crew of like 20 people. And months out, he hit me up. Basically, he was like, hey, I'm coming out for a match party. We'll play a little bit of golf. Would you like to play with this one day? I was like, yeah, absolutely.

And he's got one of those friends that's like, I got a buddy who, you know, wants to have a match against you. He watches all your stuff. He talks a lot of shit. He wants to have a match. He's convinced, you know, there's no way you're your handicap, whatever. So my boy, Tom. And he sent me even a little bit of bulletin board material.

material. One of the texts, the guys were busting his balls on the group text. That was like, so if Riggs beats you like, this is going to be really embarrassing, you're never going to live it down. And his response was it won't happen. That guy swings like a chicken is what he said. So there's all this shit talk coming up. And I'm not even on the group text.

I'm just getting these kind of middleman from my cousin Jeff. And I'm like, I'm in. Let's play. I said, what's his handicap? And he sends me a screenshot. And it's like 7.9. And I'm like a three and a half at this point. I just said back.

I was like, I'm going to kill him. If he's going to play me. Straight up. All these matches are straight up. That's the chatter. It's like straight up. I'm like, sure. So they all get here.

I go meet them at McCormick Ranch on Thursday, which is kind of a local favorite around here. I got 36 holes. It's pretty parkland version. It's almost more like Mesa Country Club. You guys know than it is like Desert Golf, which is my kind of golf. He can fucking spray it a little bit.

But again, been feeling pretty good. So I was excited going it. So we get out there and they're like, so have you heard about the bet? I'm like, no. They said, well, Tom is a, he's a, I believe criminal defense attorney in the

St. Louis area. So if you lose, you have to do a 60 second basically ad plug on the podcast for Tom's legal services. And I said, fine. They said, if you win, Tom has to, for the entire 2023 golf season, he has to wear multiple barstool golf items for the entire season. So if he's going and hitting balls, if he's just playing nine with his buddies, and he's a member at Frankie's favorite spot Belariv in St. Louis. So he has to buy his own barstool gear and wear it for the entire 23 golf season. So we get out there and it turns out me and Tom are in a cart together. So we're playing a singles match. And you know how a bachelor party is. There's a handful of guys in the bachelor party. They're big time golfers. And there's a handful at least that aren't really that

into golf. They're out there doing a scramble fucking around. So by the back nine, a good amount of the crew had basically circled up and was like, I'm going to watch this match. Uh, I even said on the first tee, because he's a course nine handicap. I turned into a course four handicap. I said, you just want your shots. And he's like, well, yeah, fine. So I was like, fine. I'll give you your five shots. So I gave him five shots. We played with Corby Granch. What do you think happened? I mean, you got a smile on your face. It looks like you

waxed him. Giving him the five shots. I haven't heard any plugs for a law office yet on this show. So I'm going to say you're fucking dismantled him. He probably shot a 92. Birded 17 to win three and one. I beat him. He you know, he, I will say, on the first team, we are the second group to go off. So there's like 20 guys around. Good amount of pressure. Bachelor of throwing a football around the

whole scene and he piped a drive and then hit a short wedge to like probably six feet. And the second hole, he pipes a drive down the middle. And I was like, I'm giving this guy five shots. This could be a problem. He ended up having a classic, I would say three or four shots, swings with irons in his hand. Just a classic quick, over the top yank hook under serious pressure. He did it on the fifth hole. He did it on the 15th hole when he got a big stroke.

That was a water all down the left. he just collapsed under pressure a few different times. I made a couple birdies in the back nine. I doubled 18 when the match is over to shoot 78, so I played a pretty solid round of golf. Nothing crazy. But I told him throughout the match. I said,

what's happening here is you thought I sucked at golf. Turns out I'm exactly as I said I am at golf. I'm about a four handicapped. I shot. I was four over through 17 holes in the match. Beat him three and one. So my boy, I'm going to get him.

I'm going to be a nice guy. I'm going to get him a one time use only 20% off code, but he's got to go through the website. He's got to buy gear and he's got a rock barstool golf gear the entire 2023 golf. This is what people think. People think that we are nowhere near our handicap. What they don't understand is we're actually good at like playing it because we play on camera all the time. Like these people think that they are just going to show up and play a match with a bunch of pressure and that their game is not going to change at all.

I don't know where the narrative came in that like we're trying to be anything that we're not. I mean, I know that's the craziest thing. they give these other golf brands that come out there like a free pass when they're not that good of golf on these videos it's like but for us they're like why do you guys suck it's like well we're just we talk about how we suck all the we also just input our scores in the fucking system i don't and we every single shot we hits on camera i don't know the whole thing has been very strange this last year of like they get very angry when like we talk about handicaps or whatever i mean we don't have to talk about it's just what it is it is what it is and also and i guess this is just the nature of

golf, but like, they demand that we are good at it. But in every other aspect of Barcelona, like, you're allowed to just like, we have to actually play the sport that we're talking about. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, it's really well. Like, Dave was just at like the halftime, they had the, at the, um, Barcel Invitational. And he was like, chucking up all those threes. Everyone's like, it's hilarious.

Yeah, I can't make a three. It's like, if we just, if you miss two puts in the daily nine, they're like, you fucking blow. It's like, well, yeah, like, playing a sport's really hard. We're just regular fucking guys. We have to go out and play a sport. It's insane. I love Joel Dave.

David, he gets into it quite a bit. And I posted a video last week, David and I, whatever. It was like a 10 footer. I made like six of them. And all the comments were just shit, shit, shit. And he jumped in and was like, I cannot believe these comments. That's better than Tor average from 10 feet. And people were responded like, well, yeah, but it's not the same putt.

He's like, even if it's not, the fact that he's even in the realm is like pretty fucking good. If you go to a, if you go to a U.S. open putting green and you watch somebody just putt 10 footers on the practice screen all day, they don't make every putt. They miss them all the fucking time. It's like, so, so you're, so you're, right, 100% right in that I don't have any idea why people think that in order to do what we do, you got to be good. Our best asset is that we pretty for the most part stink at golf that we're like

the average human being at golf because that's what 95% of people that play golf are when it comes to golf. They don't go post fucking 65s all the time. And we get a lot of people that are like, you got to hire me for your brand. I'm a plus two handicap. I'd really help you. I'm like, how would that help us? What? What? Well, it was something that we had to talk about early on, Riggs because the first trip that we went on, I won't specify which one it was, but I wasn't playing well and I was like pretty distraught about it. And Riggs was like, you're not a professional golfer. Like you, you playing good is not like on its own. Anything good. Like you have, that's not what you bring to the table. And so I had to hit that through my head where it's like if I don't play

well, that's okay. You could still be funny. You still be entertaining. You'd still be good to watch in the video. We're an entertainment product. We're not professional golfers. Yeah. When I've played at, On the fourth hole at Beth Page, I had this guy soupy filming for me, just a regular guy that I matched up with. And I fucking duck hooked one right off the tea. And he's like, you want to redo that? I was like, nope. That's just, that's the sauce right there, brother. That is the sauce right there.

People are going to comment. They're going to send it to their buddies. They're going to say, look how fucking horrific this drive was. And that's just how, that's also just the drive I hit. That's just who we are. And that's just what we have to do. And, of course, no one got to watch it because the video didn't load on Instagram. so no one saw the shot.

Yeah, I would argue our personal reactions to the shots is more important than the shot that you hit. That's what I've learned. Like, I'm the worst of the group by far, and I've got a series where I'm trying to get better breaking 90. It drops at noon today. But like my, what I've learned,

I guess it's just a part of who I am. Like my skill at golf is not tied to the way that I feel about myself. So I don't, like, if I hit a bad shot, I'm not going to be like, I'm like sometimes, like, you watch these videos, I'm sure I cuss myself out and I call myself a piece of shit sometimes, but I'm not really, like I don't go home and be like, I'm a piece of shit, I'm the worst person ever. Mostly when I hit a bad shot, I'm just like, yeah, this is a hard sport and I'm just going to keep trying to hit a better one the next time.

And I think that is a better reaction than if you hit a bad shot and then it just completely ruins your entire attitude for the rest of the day, the rest of the week, the rest of the month. And sure, a lot of people are super competitive. I don't consider myself a very competitive person. I am in some respect, but in other respects, I'm really not. You get it during breaking 90. You get so pissed off. Yeah, sometimes because I mean, I really want to make that happen. And I want to break 90 really badly.

But I don't let it linger. It's never something that sticks with me more than 30 seconds. The beauty of golf is we all have sat here on the show. I've said a million times like, dude, the shots don't matter the outcome. Really, you're out there to have a good time. Yet every human being, that's what makes you alive. Like you want to hit the good shot. You're out there to try to shoot the good score.

When you, when you know that you've hit that eight iron, beautiful, crisp little baby cut, this yardage so many times and you step up and you yank hook one into the water. You're like, you're rattled and you know you shouldn't be.

You know it doesn't matter. You know that if your score turns out because of that one swing to be, uh, uh, you know, a 97 instead of a 95 that that means nothing in the history of the world. Yet you're fucking pissed off in the moment.

And that's what every person feels. that every human that plays the game of golf feels that and that's the beauty is like you can be out there going through something that is your version of trying to play well trying to win a tournament in your own mind posting this score and if you don't pull it off you're you're so mad at yourself even though you know it doesn't really mad right and i guess my next thought usually after all going through each one of those stages that you just described is it's a hard sport golf is so hard super hard. Like the best people in the world at it have off days, off weeks, off months, off years. So to expect yourself to be able to do what, to be able to excel at it on a,

at a consistent level is absolutely insane. But it is also what you're saying where in the moment you're like, I've done this before. I know that I can do it. I practice doing it. Why can't I continue to execute it when it matters? You can go through all of those stages within 10 seconds after a golf shop. Did you know that over the holidays, property crimes like burglaries, it's always a hard word for me to say, burglaries and package thefts spike nationally.

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Scary first episode. That show sucks. What a creepy first episode. I'm only through the first episode. It's insane. I don't know that I'll ever go back to it. That's what I was. I watched first episode.

I was like, this is creepy and I don't like it. Those people needed Simply Safe. Do they have Simply Safe? They did not. The most frustrating part of the watcher is like your six episodes in and they just don't set up the security system. The guys just can't get the security cameras on. Next week, these cameras are getting up there. That's like how they say, that's how they say like every episode of Seinfeld would be ruined nowadays because of cell phones because they could have just called each other.

Every episode of the Watchers room because they don't have Simply Safe. The guy just refused to just get the security system up. So yeah, it's just they just didn't. know was watching them because they just couldn't see. I mean, it's crazy. Every time they got to this kid, dude, he's putting, he's on the ladder trying to put another camera. I'm like, how long is you going to take this guy to put the kids?

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Number one, did we talk about the times on this? Like if I say Wednesday at midnight. Yeah, we did. We talked about that. Okay. I had a huge debate. about that this weekend. Because it's obviously it's the, that way you would think that's Wednesday night, right?

Yeah. Technically Thursday. Yep. I always think of that night. Okay. Yeah. Because be fair, technically it's wrong. But technically, but the way everybody talks about it is that way.

Okay. I didn't know if we. I think I, I think that what we settled on is that it should be, it should be dictated by like periods in which you're awake. Like I wouldn't, right? Like, I'm not awake at midnight, Wednesday night for Thursday morning. I'm not up and ready for Thursday. I'm finishing.

I'm finishing Wednesday. But if we're talking about technically, Wednesday at midnight is Tuesday night. I'm not going to do it. We got it. Technically Tuesday night. But I agree that society has decided the way that you're talking about. They have to change it.

But technically it's wrong. Correct. Number two, what I was going to say is I watched this show Ancient Apocalypse this weekend. You guys in on this? I'm in on this. Graham Hancock. Yeah, Graham Hancock is a consistent Joe Rogan podcast guest.

And I've listened to a lot of Graham Hancock. He's written a lot of books, fingerprints of the gods. He's written all these books. And he's been on Joe Rogan a lot. And he finally put out. I haven't watched a Netflix series, but I know I'm familiar with Graham Hancock. It's something, man.

Yeah. And, you know, I get messages like stop fucking plugging Georgians, as if like I need to fucking plug that guy's fucking podcast. But the things that he talks about are insanely interesting things to me when he talks about like ancient or, worlds that have been left behind and no one cares about. This guy, Graham Hancock, is just going face to face with like archaeology, just like the whole, the whole brand of archaeology. He just basically thinks that they just don't do enough research and that he's going to,

wherever they've just given up, he just goes in and dives deeper. And it's fucking wild. I'll say, I do want to hear from like big archaeology because I, all I've heard so much is his vantage point. It can't just be that every archaeologist on the other side is this horrific person and that's trying to suppress news. Like there have to be good, credible, honest, great professionals on the other side, too. That would be really interesting. Why does he think that they're suppressing his, because they just think he's wrong? Or do they think it's like detrimental to our brains if we think that there was this?

Like, do we think that, like, does, do archaeologists think that, and this is talking from Grannis' perspective, do they think that like if the world finds out that there was this lost ancient civilization that was extremely advanced and that, like, progressed humanity and then got completely wiped away and then we started from zero again. Is that like something detrimental to our society? No, what it is. And they talk about it on the show if you watch a podcast, it's that these archaeologists, and again, Graham goes, he just goes so hard. He hates them.

And I, yeah, he has it so many times that it's just like, holy shit. But it's essentially that these archeologists, archaeologists, there we go. They have staked their claim that this is the way that it is and they've written books about it and their careers are that it is this way. So essentially from Graham's perspective to have a guy like him come in and say, no, it's actually this way, then all those books that they wrote, all those lectures that they've given, all those careers that they have built on the information that they think they know, it goes away.

And let me give a quick, let me set the table really quickly. So anyone who's not up to date knows is that basically conventional archaeology has essentially said there wasn't advanced civilization during the ice age up until the great basically catastrophic flooding of the earth, which was from 12,800 years ago till like 11,000 something 100 years ago was this giant flood catastrophic event and messed up the world. And then after that and around six, seven thousand years ago, true advanced civilization and cities and building all kinds of impressive stuff started to occur. And his Graham's whole kind of belief is that, that pre that catastrophic event, 12,800 years ago,

there actually were significantly advanced, crazy advanced society, civilizations all around the world. Under the Amazon, in the Sahara, all kinds of different places. And that might have been for hundreds of thousands of years in that Atlantis and the whole deal, that a lot of that is more true than anybody's giving it credit for. And that's sort of the basis for like his big anti-conventional archaeology situation. He's basically calling them lazy. He's basically saying that like if you guys actually do the work and you realize that all the work you did before was for not.

Well, he claims that he sees things that they don't. Like he looks at like the like the myths and all these like fairy tales that have been passed down from generation to generation. He's like, well, we just act as though those are nothing. And then he's like, I actually try and piece together like what were they actually seeing that started this story? Like every single religion has a flood. Like that has to be. That has to mean something. something. And then every, the one thing that really stood out to me is at one point when he talks

about how every civilization just came up with a pyramid, like, what are the odds of that? That they all in different parts of the world figured out that this was the right art, like architecture for this. Like that's kind of fucking weird. You know what I mean? Yeah, it is. Like all humans, Indonesians, Egyptians. At the same time, they just figured out how to just build a pyramid. It's just like, well, that feels like that was something that was like passed along or like information was gathered from other places and you would need thousands of years of that, right? Because also like you would never be able to travel from Indonesia to like where the

Mayans were. It's insane. Like how did they all just come up with it at the same time? That blew my mind. Dude, there's a part of the podcast where Randall Carlson is also there with him and he contributes to what what Graham does and he brings up. And this is actually interesting that because we talked about it last week where we talked about the pyramids and Frankie was like, it's alien technology that they were able to build those pyramids. Like, how is it that they were able to transfer this stone from 500 miles away and put in the pyramids? And Randall, like, two hours into the podcast is like, so I've been talking to this guy for seven

years and there's all these patents that they've put into place and they're working with Mazda, the car company. They've been working on this in the Maldives, Maldives, Maldives. Maldives. Maldives. That they think that they have discovered the technology that the desilizations, used to build the pyramids and that it's technology that the reason we're not finding it in all these digs is because it's something that we couldn't conceive of so we're not even

looking for the right thing and they he's saying that they have talked to that he's been talking this guy for seven years and now they're working with Mazda and these companies. Mazda car company? Yes, it's very strange. I will say the part of the podcast is very strange. He keeps telling Joe, I don't want to get into it because we're going to derail the whole conversation. but essentially.

I used to have a Mazda. It's a good car. Essentially. That there is technology that they have, that they think they've come across that made these pyramids more possible and that we don't even know what the technology was or is. That's, yeah, I don't even know how to comprehend that because. Joe didn't know what to do with it either. Because if you watch this ancient apocalypse show, I think in the second episode when he's

in Indonesia, like you can think about that the fact that this guy's just trying to become rich and this is like his work and he's just trying to basically. swindle you into thinking that his way of thinking is the right way because he'll sell more books, he'll have more Netflix series and whatever. You can always think the devil advocates side of it. But when he shows you just factually, how did these stones get up to this fucking mountain when they are so fucking big, so fucking heavy and that when you actually do a scientific test on them, they're originating from 500 miles away.

What's happening here? You know what I mean? That's fucking nuts. And like no one's actually doing anything. They talk about the grand. the Great Pyramid of Giza and how the, there's like this, how did they get the gigantic stones, you know, tab, whatever, from 500 miles away

to there and it's like, well, they use wet sand all that. And he's like, okay, but the actual chamber that's 350 feet in the air, how did they get them 350 feet in the air? Like, what are you talking about? And yeah, they talk about like telepathy and how, And when they talk about that and how like there's certain people that have done extremely detailed and scientifically credible experiments and studies on people and animals communicating through like telepathically and how like, you know, when you think about somebody and then the phone rings and it's them and all this stuff. Jesus Christ. I get that that stuff comes up a little cuckoo, especially when they pair that with like, well, if you haven't done drugs, like you would never get this stuff.

And you're like, well, okay. Right. Like, I, I think Graham Hancock is incredibly interesting. I think Randallson is incredibly interesting. There are parts of that, and it's exactly what Riggs talking about, where they're like, yeah, telekinesis might have been part of how they build a pyramid. It's like, what am I listening to again? What's actually going on?

And they do talk about psychedelics a lot. And it's out there stuff. And that's the stuff that Joe Rogan fucking loves. So he loves having them on. But you do get to a point where you're like, I don't know what I'm listening to, but it's, I don't know if I believe all of it, but it's certainly interesting. Right. And I do like that their kind of thesis is just or their belief is that you should just be open to all of it, which I agree with. You should be open to like if if if they really did move these items like a Jedi knight moves shit with the force, then like you're never going to be able to discover that they did that unless you're at least open to it. Correct. Yeah, the whole thing's fucked. It's just yeah, it's a lot to handle. And you know the thing that drives me crazy is that he has all these questions. He has these assumptions. He has these.

theories and like the one in Indonesia, they're saying that they did this topography sample thing or whatever to see what's inside that mountain. And they think that there's three chambers down there. But archaeologists and the people like the local people won't let them dig in there and go and find it. That's what drives me fucking crazy. What are we preserving? Like just so that people can go look at that site for thousands of years and no one's going to get the answers. Let's dig there tomorrow. Let's dig in there tomorrow and see if there's a chamber in there. Are we nuts?

We'll just have the answers. That's what it drives me crazy. We'll just have the answers. He'll be right or he'll be wrong. Then you're going to end up just digging through everything everywhere for the life. There's got to be some things that are protected. Why? For what?

So you're saying if we wanted to figure out like what was these these landmarks have. There's a subway underneath it, I would bet. Right. See, like that's an extreme. It's a good question, but it's also an extreme situation in which like that would just affect our lives. Like that's not affecting anything. It's just. I don't know.

Maybe it's the locals. It's like where they go to pray. Right. You got to understand that these landmarks have meanings outside of just actual like, like, we're looking at it from an outsider's perspective where we're like, just dig that thing up. Let's, let's see what's under. When in, like, what Danny's saying, it would have meaning to the locals where they're like, we would prefer that you don't dig that up. That would be like those are the answers, man. Everything that series is about.

Like, was that, was it 12,000 years ago? Was there a civilization that they didn't think existed? they're like, we're going to ruin this prayer ground for all these people so that your Netflix series can get another answer? And that's honestly why the LiDAR stuff is so interesting. When he talks about the Amazon, where you can just shoot lasers down and you can see what's down there as opposed to cutting the forest down and just being like, oh yeah, now these are the structures that are down here. Having LiDar that doesn't hurt anything around it, it's just lasers that you're shooting to the ground from an airplane and you can see what's under it. That, to me, is more interesting

because it doesn't disrupt the things that are already there. Dude, when they were talking about the indigenous populations there that have had no human contact, yet they know how to pair like psychedelics properly to get the right effect, which is literally like science, like deep science and how they know that despite having no human contact with civilization like ever. And they're like, how the fuck could they possibly know this unless, you know, if they know that, then civilization's 20,000 years. ago could have been extremely advanced and known all kinds of shit too that's crazy.

Now my third thing I wanted to bring up too was that fucking magician that that PFT had on macro dosing. Yeah. What the fuck's that guy about? With the guessing the the friend's name and his birthday and all that stuff. Right. I haven't stopped thinking about it. He, um, I, I had put up the clip where he was doing, he was tricking or Avery was involved.

And Avery, he was like guessing the guy's birthday and the number that he was. thinking of in his head. And I tweeted it being like, we got to have a real conversation about magicians and like what's going on with them. And a few people were responding being like, this is how he did it. If you watch it,

he does this and this and this. Those people, what they don't understand is if he's not magic and he's not, you know, promoting actual magic, then he's a normal person just like you and I.

And that's an even bigger problem. He can manipulate you in ways that you don't even understand. And that is a big problem. What did the people say? Like, what was he doing? They said that he like had a marker. I don't even know what the specifics were. Did it like make sense?

Did it like sound plausible? It sounded plausible, I will say. But these are also people who are they got, they're like Ed Hockeley. They got their head in the booth that's on video. They get to watch it 15 times. They're like, of course it's this. But what about the big T one where he said, think about your friend? And then he just wrote on a paper.

He just wrote July. And then before he said, thinking about your friend, he wrote this thing on July. And he goes, when was he born? and Big T said July and he turned around the paper and it said July on it. We saw that he wrote July before Big T even said a word. So is that manipulation to get Big T to think about a guy that was born in July? And then he ended up getting his name correct. And then like the day he was born and all this stuff.

And he had a thing written in his wallet that had the kid's name. Right. Which I don't understand. Is that all just stuff. And I understand it's like a light of hand and it's all these things. But like is it? Is it? Or is he just so good at really?

like human like interactions that he can actually foresee what you're going to say like he made a comment he's like oh if you were thinking about a girl you would touch your beard like he knows just every little thing maybe if you blink a certain way you're thinking of something like he just knows everything and that's a problem that there's also a part of it where yeah it's a problem he leads you to these places you don't realize it but he's leading you in a certain direction listen i don't understand the shit at all i watch it i'm like boom that's magic it's not a card trick it's not like hey bada boom you You picked a seven. Like this guy's like, what's your best friend's name? And is it like Ireland or whatever that guys. Island. Island. Then there was another video.

Yeah, it is. Like, what the fuck? Did he look on Facebook before? Another video of the same guy, um, doing magic for the Seattle Seahawks. And he has a player come up to him and they,

they grab hands, him and him and the player. And he goes, think of anyone in your life that you love a brother, a sister, an uncle, a cousin. Think of their name. have it in your head and the guy's like all right i thought about it they they separate their hands

and he goes who are you thinking of and he goes my uncle steve and he goes hold up your hand and the guy holds up his hand and it says steve on his hand now how the fuck does that work right right well i like what you're saying trend we're like either either either answer is bad it's either there's real magic there's only two options here there's only two options right let's let's think about this logically as human beings like we always get swept up in the magic and all this stuff and we're like how does he do it let's think about this as if we're in a courtroom there's two options at play either he knows the answer prior and he somehow figures out how to answer it and write it on the fucking guys and manipulate you like you don't even believe or he's actually a wizard and just

fucking makes magic happen those are the only two options at play here when we're talking about this magician that's writing people's names on hands of people that you're thinking about in brain. And to be totally honest, and both those options suck. And to be totally honest, I'm far more comfortable with him being a wizard.

Right. Because if he is just a normal guy like you and me, but he has trained his mind and he has figured out ways to manipulate the human brain where he can make you say what he wants you to say,

that is way scarier than someone just being a wizard. Yeah, right. If he was just like, I have free will, you can't even think on your own. He's like, I just have these powers

and I'm just going to write your name on your fucking paper. thing that is most stunning about magic and magicians is that magic doesn't exist. That's what makes it magic. It's insane. You know what I mean? Dude, that guy from Liberty National. They're all normal people who have just like cracked the code.

That magician from Liberty National, they put my card in my shoe and I was just like, how the fuck did you do that? Lucas. Yeah, you're right, Trent. If it was just certain people were born like wizards and they're just Harry Potter, that would be easier to explain. Right. 100%.

People, like, if magic actually. existed, then people wouldn't be blown away by magicians. Correct. Be like, yeah, there's like Harry Potter. They're like, oh, there's the, right, there's a certain percentage of the population that can make your card appear in your shoe. Right, you'd be like, why are you with your magic capabilities just putting my friend's name on your hand?

Why aren't you just going and like taking over the New York Stock Exchange? What are you doing? But the more likely scenario is that magic doesn't exist and these guys have just figured out a way to manipulate their subjects. And that is a problem. If they, it's, it's the classic superhero thing. If they decide to use their powers for bad instead of good, that's a problem. His name is Oz the mentalist, Oz Perlman.

Go look up his stuff. It's all over social media. It's on macro dosing the podcast that PFT, Big Cat, Big Tea, Avery. They're all on there. Aryan Foster. Aaron Foster. It's an amazing podcast because they just, I mean, they dive deep into things that we talk about for a little bit and they just go on for three or four hours about just the

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Are you ready to rage the amount that they want you to as much as they're promoting you on the flyer? like a 24 hour period. It's, it's Biz who is, he's a legendary, like, wild man. It's Brianna Chicken Fry who is a legendary party person.

And then it's Sam Riggs-Bezoyan who, listen, you're a fun party guy, but as we mentioned earlier, you, when you're at a bar, you kind of feel like the old guy. You've reached that part of your life.

We're starting at 9 p.m. I'm like, I'm going to take a nap before. I just love watching that. I mean, you're a Scottsdale guy in the bar looks fucking incredible. Dave tweeted a bunch of

pictures. Gazz has been tweeting pictures. That place looks insane. And Riggs, we've talked to you that the location is nuts. So yeah, no, I'm excited. I will say that. I'm, they, you know, we talk about getting dogs with the whole one promo. I got dogs on these promos. They took the palest photograph ever taken of me. And I'm next to Biz, who biz is good looking cat, kind of got that like handsome, dark complexion and he's a fighter and he's tough and badass. You got chicken fry, who's an absolute superstar all over TikTok and all that. And then they just took, I look like a ghost. It's like the ghost filter of me on this flyer.

And they put, I, I, I get chirped a lot for how tan I look a lot because I play golf so fucking much. I'm outside all the time. And they find this one photo that's just a video game pale white guy character. They put in these flyers with these other people. So yeah, I'm starting behind already.

I'm going to this thing where like you're saying, they're going to be chicken fries to be spraying champagne on people. Fucking biz is going to be like, like double shotgun and beers. And I'm just going to be there with like my Peter Mall quarters at bar. I'm like, yeah,

good time. But the bar looks amazing. It's in, it's, it's right in old town Scottsdale from everybody that's, that's been there, seen it, known about the progression of it is like,

no, no, this bar, of all the bars that we've done is off the charts. It's huge. It's got two fucking floors, TVs, huge open space.

It's supposed to be really, really nice and it's in a prime location. So I'm going to be there Friday night. Saturday and Sunday, I do think I'm going to go by as well, watch a little bit of football. I think our boy Todd Martin's coming by. Wow. I think our guy, Josh Isner is going to come by. So it's going to be fun.

I'm actually really, really excited, but I had to throw that down as well, that we've got the old Scottsdale Bar situation coming along. So that's coming open at 9 p.m. Friday night, local time here in Arizona. So yeah, I'm going to rage, baby, big time rage. I think the last time I, like, raged was in Miami when I fell asleep with Dave. You didn't rage at Auburn? No. What was the vibe at Harvard? There were people raging for sure.

I just wasn't one of them. You're old. You're old. Yeah, I remember that I think there were some pictures that came out of that Miami party. And you were just, you were on Death's Door, my friend. I think that was the end of my like trying to do it type of thing. And Miami's a place too. I mean, people go out at like 1 a.m. in Miami.

That's when they like begin their night. And I was down there with some buddies. We played golf all day. You start drinking early. You have a quick bite to eat. and then you're usually dead in his sleep by 8, 9 o'clock, whatever. That was like, Dave had texted me being like, I heard you're in Miami. Do you want to come out with me?

And that's when he was doing, you know, tables and bottles. And he's like, yeah, we're going to go out, meet me at 10.30. And we'll do like a pregame. And I was like, all right. And by the time we got to that. 21 club at like 12. This is only three or four years ago. So I was still in my 30s, whatever.

I'm like, I was just asleep. He put out videos of me asleep at the club. I'm at the point now where. I was watching Sunday night football last night, and I was like, they got to wrap this thing up because I'm going to bed soon. Like 11 p.m. is is my new, like official bedtime. In 11 p.m. we're starting to get close to 11 p.m. I got to be in or near my bed. So those Sunday night football games, they wrap up at like 1130. I didn't see the end of the game last night. I don't even know what happened. I went to a, I went to a nightclub this weekend with my friends. And I had a similar, a similar reaction where I just got there.

And it was just really hot. And I just really wanted to leave. you know yeah it was just like it was it was really hot and I just kept on saying like it's hot and they were like yeah this is a nightclub like get sweaty and like dancing and I'm just like it's really really hot I don't it's hot I've never been a nightclub guy and then I convinced Emma and I were gone after like 45 minutes because I just when you turns out when you stand in someone's ear the whole time and you're like this place sucks it's hot it sucks they eventually want to leave yep they don't want to be it worked it was me at sky bar that was me at sky bar I was like I mean pretty sure this place sucks I don't know they're like this is the number one bar in the country so yeah my scene was they have a place

the collegiate call at Auburn and had a little rooftop bar. We sat there for like two hours and had a couple of cocktails, a few beers. There was like six people at this table. That was, everybody's talking about the coach and the strategy for tomorrow night. We're chit chat. People were telling jokes, making people laugh.

That's my scene. And then it turned into like, you know, everybody's shirts soaking wet, it's an hour to go to the bathroom. And it was like, that's just, I got nothing in there.

I'm the least impressive person at the bar at that point. I also think I'm hard of hearing to the point where, where when I get into a loud bar, communication with me is officially out the window. So I just stand there like a mute. I stand there and people are trying to talk to me and I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you give them a few nods. They could be like, hey, your mom's a whore.

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, totally. That sounds awesome. And I, so I'm just, I'm just like, ha ha. Yeah, when I get to a loud bar, a loud situation, I don't enjoy it because I can't talk to anybody. Tough look being the old guy at Aubur that couldn't hear anybody. Huh? Yeah. What?

What did she say? You know, I think I'm going. I got an ear doctor appointment this week because I have this thing. I've played the drums my whole life, probably didn't wear enough fucking ear plugs. And I always had this thing tonightus where you just hear a ringing in your ear. And it was always manageable. Like it was fine. You just heard it like if it was dead quiet, you'd hear it. And over the past couple of years, I don't know if it's the pup punks or whatever. It's been getting worse and worse. And then recently it's gotten really bad where like I can't even like, it's all I hear now. Like at night and I'm like,

I don't even know if this thing's reversible or like curable. You type in tonight is cure, there is none. It's just like you got to learn to live with it. They like give you all these like ways to like you have to go to like a therapist to like be able to just like not hear it and like you have to think of other things is all these fucking weird crazy stuff. The only thing that I'm keeping my hopes up for is that they say like it could be something structurally like if you like if I like chew down hard on something, it gets louder.

So it might be something that's like block in there. I don't know. You hear it right now? No, not no. I'm not paying attention to it. I can't hear right now. It's just like if it's dead quiet at night when you're supposed to be fucking sleeping, you just hear like a, it's fucking crazy.

It's crazy. Dude, I've thought I've had that before. I thought I've had pulsatile tinnitus where it's, you can hear your heartbeat. Oh, like I have a little bit of that where when I'm laying in bed and it's really fucked up kind of my whole life where I, when I'm laying down trying to sleep, you just hear. I've heard that before. It's almost like it's reflecting against the pillow. It's horrible. Yeah.

It's horrible. So like you'll be able to see all the little things I did in this week's. Pathetic podcast we are. Everyone's, well, we're getting older. Like, if you've been listening to this podcast for the last like five years, you've just seen us just get older and get... I was 27 when we started this thing. Yeah. It's like, I was young.

I was in my 20s when we started this thing. I was crazy. I was bumping around Pub Trent was tearing apart Manhattan and then I just, I just let it go. And I'm just old. I put up, uh, I put every time like Trent had a really big put, I put the heartbeats out and it got very dramatic. Like every time you'd stand over, the music cut out and you heard do do do do. do do it's just like that's literally i didn't think that's what you're actually hearing sometimes when you're like in your own head i am it's actually perfect it's unfortunate um all right a little bit of

golf we had some golf occurred this weekend yep uh three things that i wrote down tony finow who we used to make fun of years ago for just never winning ever couldn't win he was always right there not a bad place to be making a ton of money louis oosterousin went through that for a little bit too tony though has turned it around uh dan's our resident actual golf knowledge guy. So give us a little bit on, you know, a little scope on Tony Fino. I think until last year, he was, like you said, the guy who just never won. He had won the Puerto Rico open.

He didn't want anything else after that. He was kind of the poster boy for the Puerto Rico curse, which I think has since been broken. There was like a curse there for a while, or if you won the Puerto Rico open, you weren't going to win anyone else. But look, I mean, Tony Fino has always been one of the more talented guys, takes it back to it looks like is, you know, the middle of his torso and he hits it like 320. He makes a ton of birdies.

Always makes the game look really, really easy, but just had a problem there where he could not close the deal. He's now won four times in the last 14 months, including three in his past seven starts. So when you have that much talent and you start to have the belief that comes with closing the deal over and over and over again, he's going to be a trendy pick for Augusta. He's got that huge game.

He eats up the par fives. He's got the wins now. So up to number 12 in the world. And he was up by eight. He was up by eight at one point on Sunday. It was not close. We talked about tree in the forest and how last week, kind of felt like was there even a tournament between all the football was going on you looked at

the golf it was the guy was up by eight strokes it was like oh this is over so not not a very doubt the ratings will be very big but for tony fin now he's playing again this week um but a big win going into next year and he'll definitely feel like someone who's a candidate for a breakout season in 23 dude if you're one of these guys if you're one of the top let's even call it 20 players in the world and you're not like a go-on vacation type guy you should play in these tournaments and just feast because the paychecks do not change. When I saw that Tony Fee now made $1.5 million for winning this tournament, I thought to myself, where the fuck are the rest of the top 20 people in the world?

Because there are nowhere to be found in checks don't change. And you can just win so much money. Like I'm stunned that the paychecks don't change when a tournament like this comes around. Stun. And I don't know if the bubble's going to pop at some point when they're going to realize that people aren't watching these tournaments. So maybe the purses shouldn't be as big. but as it stands right now, and I know a couple guys playing it,

but certainly not when it's like the regular part of the schedule. Dude, if you got a week and you're like, I'm not doing anything, why don't I go play in this tournament? You can make some serious cache. And you could do it in places like Bermuda and places like Mayacoba. You know, the tour goes to some places during these fall seasons where it's just pretty damn chill. You know, bro, bring the wife. That's a vacation.

Bring the wife. Bring the kids. Let them play on the beach all day. And let's try to win seven figures. years. Right. Houston, not the best example, but yeah, there is a second, I mean, I think you're right, though. I think there will begin to be this sort of like separation of tournaments, and we're kind of already seeing it happening, where you're going to have the 15 tournaments that are sort of tapped on the shoulder, they have all the money and they're the elevated events. And then a tournament like the Houston Open, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if there's going to be one next year, right? I mean, the tour goes back to the January through August, September, starting in 2023. We still have no idea what the fall of next season is going to look like. This week, is the last fall FedEx Cup event ever. There's never going to be another event in the fall that counts to the FedEx Cup.

So it's at a bit of an end of an arrow with this week's RSM Classic, but you're right. RSM Classic's giving out $1.3 million for the winner this week. Speaking of old, I'm old enough to remember when that was like what the Masters gave out when you won.

I know. Yeah. Dude, and now it's the Houston Open where we don't, it's not even a blip on our radar and people are making that type of money. We're going to get into the RSM and we're going to make a,

We're actually going to live on the show. We're going to workshop a bet. We're going to do a special four-play bed that can only be seen on the Barcelona sports book. A couple other things I want to touch on. Tommy Fleetwood won the Ned Bank, which is Euro tour, whatever, D.P. First win in three years. Tommy, I got to say, has really become one of our guys. And I think he's going to have a little bit of a breakout foreplay guy spring when we start releasing our videos from Taylor Made Media Day.

I believe we shot three different videos with Tommy Fleetwood. and he has just gone from, you know, a little questionable when we were really aggressive with him at the U.S. Open and we had never encountered him before at Pebble Beach to now he's one of our guys. He was on the podcast from Dubai. He's got that dry sense of humor that's quite different from a lot of the folks that we interact with. And he's fucking hilarious when he pretty much in a very dry demeanor chirps the shit out of us. And he's on three different videos from Taylor Made Media Day to Air Mate Athlete. So shout out to Tommy Fleetwood got a win. I saw the staff there.

It was like carrying him around on the green, which was awesome. So yeah, I love Tommy Fleetwood, big W for him. It feels like yesterday when he was at Shinnock and lightened it up. He shot like 63 in the final round and you're thinking this guy's going to win at million majors. And then he hadn't won for three years. So congrats to Tommy Fleetwood. There is a video that we shot at Taylor Made Media Day that if we put it out today, I think he would jump to number one in the four play golf player rankings.

He was, he is an absolute gem. He's one of those guys who, yeah, he's dry and yeah, he chirps us and makes fun of us. But when you throw an idea at him, he goes all in. He's just into it. And we love guys like that. Our fan base teams to love guys like that who are willing to field our insane ideas and get into it. I'm telling you, there's a video that once we put it out, Tommy Fleetwood is going to be just one of our guys forever, forever. It's the Brits, man.

The European guys are just cool. They just don't take themselves very seriously. like Riggs and I talk about this a lot. They're just the European golfers. You meet them and they just, they don't have any sort of pretentiousness. They're just normal-ass dudes. Yeah, I do think sometimes American golfers get caught up in like the machine of your next up.

So you can only do certain things and, you know, don't do this, don't do that. And they get very like, I don't know if I can do that. I think you're right about the Brits when they're just like, yeah, we're normal guys. We'll do whatever you want. It's the accent too. Makes everything better. Way better. Facts.

And then Nelly Corta. Nellie Corta was diagnosed with a blood clot in mid-March. She was number one of the world. What a major last year. The whole deal, she was killing it. Phenomenal golf swing. Maybe my favorite golf swing to watch. Every time they post a video, like, how is every single shot, not just perfect?

Her swing is perfect. Her positions, lines, the whole deal, aesthetically phenomenal. She got good personality. Her and Jessica and the sisters and the brother, Sebastian, and the family and the sports and the whole deal. She comes back, wins. It was very emotional afterwards. Talked about how scary it was with the blood clot.

Blood clots are no jokes. She went to the emergency room with like some discomfort in her arm. Boom, blood clot obviously affects your life, affects everything. Comes back. She had finished, I think, run her up early on in one of her returns, then missed the cut and then wins. So you talk about golf and how difficult it can be. It's impossible game, the whole deal.

Well, Nellie Korda's back. She got a win. So shout to her. She's a badass. She's a total badass. Badass. Badass. Bad ass.

Bad ass. Anything else on my list before we go into the potential from the gallery situation? I got one thing. The PJ tour, the college guys are going to go straight to the PJ tour now, at least the number one guy, which is big news. The tour is in a position now that they have not been in before, which is having to compete for young talent. We saw that guy, Eugenio Chakara go to live. He won in a live event. I think he made like six and a half million bucks in addition to whatever guaranteed money he got.

So if Liv is going to keep offering college kids a bunch of money and guaranteed starts, the PJ tour is going to have to meet them in the middle, right, and make it more attractive. As of right now, if you're the best college player in the country, that's great. And you get to the corn fairy tour. But now starting next year, the number one in the PJ tour to use standings will get right to the PJA tour. And if you're an underclassman and you clear a certain threshold, which is 20 points, I don't know exactly what that means, you'll go straight to the PJ tour as well. So there is now a direct path from college golf to the PJ tour,

which there has never been before. That's fucking badass. It's significant. I like that. And it's not, I don't think it goes far enough. I think there should be more than just one. But like the pipeline to replace the live guys,

it starts in college. And now that college golf is big now and it's on TV. And it's basically like a mini tour in and in of itself. And those guys, the top five players in college golf are good enough to at least, at least compete. Maybe they won't all keep their cards, but they're good enough to at least compete. And I think it's good for the whole sport if we start to know these guys in college, and then they don't just kind of disappear into the abyss for a while.

Like Norman Zhang, Braden Thornberry, these are some of the best college players who they didn't get their chance right away and they just kind of fade. And once you lose the momentum, you lose that confidence, it's a big deal. To be able to watch these guys be the best amateurs and then watch them on the PGA tour immediately the next year, I think that's good for everybody. Yeah, and we heard from Alistair obviously last week about how hard it is to make it. It's just really, really hard to make it. to get to the tour.

We, you know, we did the whole deal about how big it is for him, how awesome it is. He's just got eight starts on the corn fairy tour. So it's like he hasn't, it's not like he's even like made it, man. Now he's, he's very confident. I got drinks with me the other night. He's very confident that he's clearly going to play well, make some cuts at least, and play corn fairy tour throughout the whole year. But like, we were going, hooray, we were celebrating and all that.

He's got eight starts on the corn fairy tour. It's like to make it to the actual PGA tour, to be able to play in the big events, to really be one of those guys that's financially. stable, that your status is, is, you know, comfortable. You get to pick your schedule. You get to be in the majors. It's fucking insanely hard. So, yeah, for them to be able to jump right up there and make it, that's fucking huge.

That's just, that's, that's life changing for them. So, so, yeah, tour, live, having to go back and forth, battle where that's going to end up. We've talked about that a million times. Feels like the first show in a long time. We haven't really mentioned live, which is nice. But we have a bunch of from the galleries per usual. We're an hour and 40 minutes in. I think we're going to save those.

I think we'll just save those for a Thursday show at this point. We'll talk about the Thrones finale on the next show as well. Yeah. Yeah. Cost country mortgage. They're our favorite mortgage company by far. We love this mortgage company. And they like to bring to you the final question.

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Or I think I watched the first season and then for whatever reason I just didn't keep up with it. But I remember loving it. I do that every once in a while with shows. But right now, I'm very jealous of people watching the new season. People are posting about it. I know. Like Yellowstone is the best show ever. And I'm like, man, I wish I was love it.

I watched the first two episodes twice. I sat down, tried twice. I just couldn't get into it. Something about the way that show starts. I just didn't get hooked. You know, like peeky blinders hooked me. All these other shows hooked me. I just something.

about it. I'll give it another shot, I guess. I just, I can't. I'm going to go ahead. I'll, bonk myself, but the redhead in that show, I'm just super in love with. I'm in love with her. She's the one who's like a little, she's a little crazy. She's got a screw loose. Yeah, she's, I don't know her character. I don't, because I haven't watched all the seasons, but I remember watching it being like, oh, I'm in love. This is what love feels like. Yeah, no, she does a, she does a good job. She's a great character in the show too. Kelly Riley, Beth Dutton. Is that it? I don't I think her, Beth Dutton is, I think, is her name, right? It's a good hoodie on you, Trent.

What is that hoodie? Is that one of our new ones? Yeah. It's a little thicker than usual. That thing's sick. Yeah, this thing's really nice. And usually it has a string, but my washer and dryer ate the string. Wow.

But it's, yeah, it's a good quality. It's thick. It's nice. It's warm. It's cold out inside. That's a really good hoodie. High school, when we were big, you know, hockey guys, we wanted to show off how big hockey guys we were.

We would remove that string and put a hockey lace in there. Really? It feels like a weird. show of loyalty. Totally. You know what? I laughed at that initially, but if you,

if you teleport yourself back into when you were playing team sports, I kind of like that. Totally. Every hoodie we had, we'd take it out. You put a, you know,

hockey lace has a distinct look white with like those, the pretty thick black like string through it. Put that in there. You just tie a little, you know, that was like the thing. You were a hockey guy.

I'm most impressed that you guys were able to re-thread the string through because I have the string for this hoodie. And I tried it for three minutes and I was like, I'm going to end up killing somebody. You got to get the inchworm just the whole way down. Do it all day. Or you can, there's a safety pin trick. Look it up.

Okay. Because I would like to have the string trick. Yeah, you like put a safety pin in and then you can like push the safety pin from like outside. Okay. Maybe the next time you guys see me. That feels like kind of. That feels like a dorky way to do it, to be honest. You put a hockey lace into your, into your hoodie.

No, I'm talking. I'm laughing now about how big of a loser move that was at the time. I feel like if you're there with a safety. pin putting your string back through your hoodie. Come on. What do you think? I got a sewing machine here. Danny, I got to ask you something.

What are these Instagram stories you put up of you singing these songs, lip syncing these songs? I get tagged in more of your videos than I get tagged of my own. Asking what is like what's going on there? Because if, you know, we used to make fun of lurch for a ridiculous Instagram story posts and I just, I got to ask you what's going on with those things. You're talking about the one this weekend? Just like all of them, you know, like all the ones that you do the lip sync.

songs, you know. I, I don't know. I never really thought that all that much about it. I, I think it's funny. So I, I do it. That's kind of it. I just, you know, I didn't realize that it was getting back to, uh, to my coworkers. So I'll have. Yeah. I got quite a few said to me too. Wow, I haven't got anything. I think it's just really that chair. I think there's just something weird about that chair. It's like you got it did. I'm with, I'm with Frankie. It brought me right back to Lurch when he did his like Mrs. Doubtfire thing or whatever fucking did when he was. We were just like why. It's just a little, you guys a little weird, which is good. We want that's. Yeah, I like weird.

I just had to ask you if there was like a significance behind it. No, I'm definitely weird. And I think you guys are starting to realize that more and more. You are a different cat. Yeah, I'm a different cat. But listen, that's what Rick said. He's like, be yourself, be yourself. Totally. Yeah. I actually, what song was it this weekend? I missed that one. It was some young thug song. This is the lyricist post or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're trying to go on it. I got that sentiment.

Lipsinking to Young Thug has got to be pretty difficult. Well, that was the whole joke. I said, who's my favorite lyricist, young thug? And then it was me just going like, oh, see, he thinks it's funny. It's something that we certainly don't have right now. It's funnier there.

I thought it was funnier there than it was on the story. I'm never going to get Frankie fucking naws on here. It's never going to happen. Oh, no, that's definitely unique. There's no doubt about it. It was unique content. I wish I could find a couple of these Yeah, they came across right at the same time

I was in Auburn. I was like, I don't really have time for this right now. Someone said that you have to open the show asking why Danny posts these. And I said, I don't know. So I, you know, I just have it. I will say I'm glad because I put it on my outline.

It says right here, Dan IG story. No, you did not. Yeah, it's right here. It's unbelievable. Yeah, you have to. The people are talking. The people are talking. They are talking.

I had 30 messages about it. Maybe 45. No, I got a few. I got a few. I just got a few of people that were like, hey, you got it. I mean, you got to talk about this. I think they kept messaging me because I'm the only person that would kind of bring it up and be like, what's going on there? You know what I mean?

Like, what are we talking about here? What's going on? Oh, God. That's funny stuff. All right. Well, we got that. So there's the answer. Oh, yeah.

Let's talk bets. Yeah, we do got to come up with the bet. So I wrote a couple of things down for this too. Before we get into the bets, Dan, IG story. We got to get into the fact that my under bet is just, it's four and oh. that I brought it out to the world. Now, I got a lot of fucking messages being like, you saw this somewhere.

Obviously, I didn't do the fucking work in like this statistics. I literally said in the clip, which we probably got fucking hosed from our social media team again. But like, I literally said, oh, I saw this on TikTok. Someone sent this to me and I'm just using it. Dogged our team on this show. That feels like a long time ago. But like, just basically being like,

I saw this on TikTok. I don't know who the fuck originated and we have to go back and source the guy. I mean, like, that's just not the way the world works. I just saw something. And I was like, yeah, I think I'm doing this this week. I didn't claim to come up with the fucking system. I said that I was betting it because I saw a stat that said any spread that's nine and a half or greater, you bet the under because statistically it's just been like hitting. And it hit went two and oh last week.

It went one and oh yesterday. And then tonight the Chiefs game went under. And then tonight we have a 10.5 spread. So have to bet under. You know what I mean? You're just like, you have to just keep up with the trend. Sure. Well, now I'm in a weird spot because I haven't been doing it.

And I'm going to do it now and it's going to miss. Yeah, but it's the same as walking up to a blackjack table and seeing black like 10 times and being like, well, it had to get from 5 to 10 at some point. It might get from 10 to 15. You just got to keep going. You can't be against the grain. Yeah, but then you start thinking like, well, I don't want to psych myself out. So don't over.

And then you're right. Responsibly, it's been an amazing. It's been an amazing ride. Like, you know, going 3 and O on a certain like stat is fucking is electric. That is a ride that. Like, if it goes again tonight, I'm going to go crazy. I was going to say, are you going to keep it. Are you going to like appreciate that you have a little bit of a hook there and like, you have to keep it rolling.

Are you insane? I don't know. I feel like it's a nice. These tricks don't always last. No, I'm not going to do. That's what my dad used to do where when we were playing at his house, ping pong at my where I grew up. We would play ping pong. I'd beat him 11 games in a row.

And then the 12th game he would win and then he would just throw the paddle on the table and just say I'm a winner. And then wouldn't let me play him again for months. Like I wouldn't. I'd be like, you want to. go play pinpoint and I was like no mr. Borrelli just like I'm a winner and just walked back into the kitchen I'd be like no no he's like he doesn't I don't remember playing the other games I just remember beating you 21 20 20 that's it's just like no so yeah I'm not walking off as a winner I got to fuck you got to go down you got to go down swinging man there's no chance there's no chance I'm not riding that and the

the beauty of this is that everyone's going to listen to this and they already know what happened so right that is it's a low I'm going to get on that it's a low total too too. Is it? Oh, God. I think so. Oh, God. That makes me nervous. Very nervous. All right. Let's talk about the RSM Classic real quick. So we do. We want to, because I've been, now that I'm back in Arizona for the winter, Barcelona, Varsal Sportsbooks Live here, I'm trying to get more into it. I'm having a good amount of success. I bet a lot of NHL. I bet Auburn Tigers, who won. Shout out to Coach Cadillac. But we got the RSM golf, the whole deal. I put together a couple of our guys because we got a lot of our guys playing Kiz is kind of

for a while there he was like the leading money winner and the history of the RSM classic. He won it. He lost in a playoff to Louis Ooste Hoosin at one point, I believe. He's had a bunch of other top finishes there. Webb Simpson, who we're having on the show Monday,

Harris English, who we were recording with on Monday. I thought we could throw those guys into perhaps. Oh, and then Joel Damon, who Joel Damon's last three finishes are T-9, T3 T16. I thought we could maybe throw these three or four guys into a group and have them all to make the cut.

How would you guys feel about that? I like that. I love making the cut bets. Those are some of my favorite. Yeah, you don't need... The worst thing about golf is when you make a bet on a guy, he's got a great couple of first rounds and then Saturday shoot 74 and you're gone.

So they make the cut bet. I like it's Instagram and it's just a yes or no. It's binary. Right. If you are betting the winner of a tournament, which I've done many times, it takes forever. You gotta wait.

It takes forever. You gotta wait until Sunday and it's like, man, if he's not even close, then it's like, damn, that sucks. But make the cup bet like you're saying, instant gratification. So I think that's the route that we go. Okay. So I'm thinking too, we, I looked at these odds. Kiz is plus 5,000 to win. Webb Simpson's plus 4,500.

Harris English plus 5,500. So it's not like these guys are locks here. Okay. So I'm thinking that if they're that, if they're pretty fucking long shots to win, tournament and we bundle them all to make the cut that's probably going to be pretty good plus money so we're going to throw this to pen national gaming entertainment pen national entertainment we're going to throw this to them we're going to have do you like those four Kevin kisner web simpson harris english Joel damon do we like those four i like those four hair is up and comers on

the podcast of two guys that have been our guys yep Harris is coming back he had a hip injury he's playing well now i like it peter malar guy i believe which is not anymore not anymore former former Peter Malar guy. I had this exact same thing because I went to the Peter Milar store and I texted Harris. He's like, hey, we're Peter Malar buddies. He's like, yeah, no, we're not. Okay. All right.

We're still riding him. He's going to be on the podcast soon. So we're riding them. We're going to have Kiz Webb, Harris, Joel Damon. The four of those, we're going to bundle them together. We're going to throw that to Penn National Gaming. And then you look on our social. And so you can get on it before Thursday show comes out because the issue is a lot of times

we talk about this stuff when we record on Wednesday. and then the show doesn't come out to Thursday. Golf already started. You missed the boat. So that's going to come. Barstall Sportsbook. I'm jumping tonight on the under. Hopefully I don't blow it.

You guys will already know the answer as you're listening to this. But yeah, we're going to get that going to the Marshall Sports Book. Okay. What's the total? What's the total tonight? Oh, sorry. I was looking at, I have to 43. Yeah, it's a little low.

I got to get to the deli because I got to get my prosciutto and the islanders are playing at 530. Did I see something going on with like cheese and meat and delis? in New York. Probably. They're always having these fucking Italian meats or always have these like fucking weird things where you can't buy them for a week. But I always keep going.

Yeah, there was that one scare like a couple months ago where like, I don't know, it was just like bad prosciute was coming into New York. I, after the Chicks of the Office show in Boston, we went to the North End, went to this place, Monicas, which we went to the first year we did shows in Boston. It's this fantastic, fantastic Italian place. And we got these appetizers that were,

it was provolone wrapped in prosciutto and then baked and it was one of the better things I've ever had in my entire life it's it was a salt bomb it's the most salt you could ever have but I was like at the table Googling what it was and like where I could get it close to me I don't know if anyone I forget the official name for it but boy salt is just a an accepted drug that has just been just thrown into our lives that we are completely addicted to I mean last night I sat on the fucking couch. I watched Sunday night football. Then I watched White Lotus. And then I watched the crown, which is back, by the way. The crown's fucking awesome. The way that they cast- I could get into the crown. That's one of those I couldn't get into for sure. It's a little slow this

season, but like Prince Charles just doesn't look like Prince Charles. They made him hot. Like, it's got like, if you're doing a retelling of a story like the crown, the fucking British monarchy, you have to have them look exactly like the people. And everyone else looks Princess Diana legit looks like Or like she's fucking bad It's crazy It's scary how much she looks like her

And then all of a sudden you just have Prince Charles who's just like A tan Italian guy What actually is going on? Was he? I don't know what a young Prince Charles looked like Was he not an attractive individual? No dude like they've even

No he was not He was the big ears big I mean he was not good looking I mean this was Prince Charles When he was younger dude And now Look at the guy they have playing him. He's like a fucking stud.

Oh, that's, that's Jimmy McNulty from the wire. That is, though, to be fair, that's just like a much better looking version of the guy you just showed us. They don't look like different. I will say it's actually closer than I thought it was going to be. And I think if they had put prosthetic ears on him, it would have been almost a dead ring. Oh, it's not even close, man.

It's not even close. I thought we're pretty reasonable. I think that looks like Jimmy McNulty. No, it's just a much uglier version but the same like facial structure archetypes sort of. Whatever. The only reason why I'm so hard on it is because I've been

watched the offer, which on Paramount Plus, the number one, if you've seen the Godfather, you have to watch the offer. It is arguably one of my favorite shows I've ever watched in my entire life. Probably a top three most enjoyable show I've watched. I swear. For like a one season spin-off show,

obviously like you take away all like the multi-season like the Game of Thrones, the House of the Dragon, breaking bed where it's like you're going to go on this journey for years and years and years. That's like a whole other category to me. A one season shortened series

about something that happened in real life, I don't know that they could have made it better. The acting is insane. It's insane. Yeah, I got to watch that one. Dude, you'll love it. You will, Bob Evans, the guy who plays Bob Evans,

the head of Paramount, is such a good character that I want a 15 season series with that guy. It's so good. salt sugar and caffeine Oh yeah by the way Last night I was just sitting on the fucking couch doing all that stuff

And I was just eating seeds just sucking on salt Just fucking crushing a whole thing Frank the tank will pour some salt And do it's gonna reduce sodium I'll do sodium because it's been such a problem Salt is really good It's not good for you but it's certainly delicious I'm gonna go get prosciutto right now

Islanders are on such a guy Saw I saw Hith had an electric hole out On his last hole in tournament Yeah he hoops one in there right flopped it in Yeah I like that guy We got to do Scramble again, too. He is sick of golf. I'm just kind of going through the field to me, you know,

checking out the RSM field. I had an idea for like a Northwestern parlay, Dylan Wu, David Lipsky, and Scott Harrington all to make the cut because that would be definitely plus money. A Northwestern parlay. I don't know you're going to get a ton of traction on that. People aren't going to, people aren't going to hop on. They're not clamoring to bet on Northwestern golfers.

Yeah, what do you mean? We got Scott Harrington back. All right, folks. Everybody, we're done here. You got enough, enough, getting anything out of the tank there? I think so. Left it on the field. Yep.

Nothing more come across your desk, Frank? No. No, it's just a good time to watch TV, watch Breaking 90 today. You know, just it's getting cold, just sit there. And we're trying a new time. At noon, you know, we did all the math, and we saw that a lot of people are on their phones at 12 o'clock. You know, it's usually lunchtime at work.

You need something on your work computing. we're going to do a premiere. Hopefully we can get a bunch of people in there. I think it's going to work. I think 12 o'clock's a nice time. I think sometimes at 7 o'clock, 6 o'clock, 8 o'clock, like people are doing shit. You worked all day.

You're in front of a computer and you got to sit there and watch another thing for an hour. Like sometimes that's just tough to ask of people. You know what I got tonight? What? I got a dad bod classic dinner with Josh Isner. Oh, wow. Shout out to Josh.

What's going to happen? Yeah, we do a few of these a year. We basically turn, you know, what could be a five-minute phone call into like a several hundred dollar dinner and we go to a nice dinner and we sit down and we discuss the matters that need to be you know decisions need to be made for the dad by classic coming up in March wow solid that's an exciting that's an exciting trip I mean I can't believe we're going back to pebble beach and spy glass and it's just wow I've started I've started to get to the point where I I because you see the occasional clip or whatever on one of

these accounts that post good shit on social of like Pebble Beach and whatever. And I saw that spyglass clip and I was like started to think about my game at those places. You know, you start to think about the different shots and like that's kind of the next the next trip that I have, I think is going when we do the Dad Bud Classic to Pebble, Spyglass, Spanish Bay. And I think it's like the first week in March that we're going to be out there. So I've been thinking about it a little bit. It's been percolating. I'm very excited. I feel like I, last year I played okay. Like, this year I played okay there, but I feel like next year I could be a real force out there. I really do.

Last year, when I had my my insane pebble round, I was three under through seven at pebble. Just start my round and shot one under on the front in like 20 or 30 mile an hour winds and then hung on on the back. I hit two, two irons out of bounds. I think I shot like 78 or something like that. Fuck. It was grind. But yeah, that'll be like the next trip that I think I have from a golf standpoint is the Dadbod Classic. So anyways, I'm sure you guys will be getting some updates via email text, Josh, the whole deal.

I don't really know. I mean, Josh obviously runs the whole thing, but I'm the captain of our team. So I'm going to bring the trophy to dinner. I always bring the trophy. It rattles Josh's cage. So, yeah, big dinner tonight. All right. I think that's it. I think that's all we got. Thank you everybody for listening.

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