Fore Play - Frankie Fights Lurch Over The Diameter Of A Golf Hole

Episode Date: January 9, 2020

We react to the Geoff Shackelford interview, providing our thoughts on how it went, what we wish we would have brought up, and people's reactions. Then we talk all things, Patrick Reed, at Kapalua. Reed says he didn't hear the heckler, Commissioner Jay Monahan believes him, and Chris DiMarco had an outrageous tweet about Reed. We also talk Abraham Ancer saying the media twisted his comments about playing Tiger, we're getting Mr. Borrelli the S7K putter, and what the exact diameter of a golf hole makes Frankie want to fight Lurch!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We, of course, had Jeff Schaufford on Tuesday's show. A very interesting interview, very unique interview, nothing that we've ever really done before, is have somebody on to sort of differ in opinion on our approach and what we do. Most people we have on are like cheerleaders to what we do. Yeah. Especially like if you're going to have somebody from the golf media space on,

they're usually going to be doing it for a reason to either like promote something or promote an event or something like that. So they usually like, yeah, keep doing what you guys are doing this. Whenever we have Brandel on, same thing. He's like, yeah, keep doing. I love what you guys are doing this. That players, the players are obviously, if they come on, they usually have a pretty good relationship with us.

So naturally in those situations, it ends up very positive the whole time. A couple exceptions when like we've had Bryson on and we had given Bryson a bunch of it before. We had J.T. on. We'd given J.T. a bunch of shit, blah, blah. But for the most part, generally, everybody's very positive on the same page, and it's, we love this, we love that. Ha, ha, ha. Jeff Shackaford, of course, was very different. He had,

he was the representative, really, of Old Man Golf media against us. It blew up into a big thing for anybody who doesn't recall, give the quick cliff notes again of how the whole thing came about, but we were in Australia. We broke the news of the quote,

from Kessler-Krain, who was Patrick Reed's caddy. We were at a bar. We were doing a big meetup in Melbourne. We got that quote. Lurch was DM&M. We were kind of trying to figure out how to get it, put it out into a statement. We did. Everybody, golf.com, golf central, golf channel, golf digest, reach out to us.

They all quote us. They all cite us in putting out the quote from Kessler-Grain. ESPN, like 30 minutes or 60 minutes later, did not. We were saying, hey, ESPN, respect the business. Please say who had the information. first and and then this turned into a big thing with Bob Herrick and then the following day we put out the video with Tiger Woods when the president's cup concludes Tiger Woods wins his match he gives us a fist bump very cool gets millions of views a few different people took shots at us over that

thing and you over that video and you could tell that it was clearly something had boiled to the surface Jeff Shagherford called us fan boys with a media pass and we started to quit back we were quipping back at Bob Herag who said we should be embarrassed we quit back at Jeff Shackford, who again took a unprovoked shot at us and defended ourselves. The next thing, you know, it turned to do it. Bob Huggin. John Huggin. John Huggin. John Huggin, you fucking loser.

Old Huggsie. I still don't know if he's officially off Twitter yet. Sometimes people send me his, like, a link to his bio. Because I think he did delete it one night after the Max Homa stuff where he was critiquing that for no reason whatsoever. And then I'm pretty sure he deleted his account that night. And I think he has quietly snuck back on because if you go there now, it doesn't say this user doesn't exist.

It just says John Huggin and I am blocked by him, so it says you are blocked by this user. And I put this in the blog about him critiquing what Max Homa was doing over the break. I put in like PS, in a couple weeks, John Huggin is going to realize that everyone needs self-promotion. You need to promote your work. So he's going to sneak back on a Twitter, which I think he's doing right now. But he was one of the guys who we were going up against.

Yeah, old Huggsy. And he had been basically eliminated from Twitter. but you're right. These people that do that, that claim that they're going to leave or they always come back. They come back all the time. They have to be because their job depends on it. And John Huggins' critique of Max Homo was all this is is self-promotion. That's all he's doing. And what Huggins, Huggins, whatever, is going to realize is that he needs it too.

And he's going to come crawling back to Twitter. And if we're going to talk about old Huggsy, I have to give a credit and I have to read again the tweet from Matt Janella, who we've had on this program, who is the original boondoggle boy. he does the travel stuff on morning drive. He's the fucking man. Got to know him very well in 2019. And he came and replied to John Huggan and said, John,

or to our whole kind of battle in one of the quote tweets that one of us put up about Huggin. And he said, John epitomizes the bitterness and negative attitude that gives the game a bad name. He has used and abused his platform to air his own regrets and failures as a player and professional. Thankfully, guys like you, that's us,

have come along to provide fresh air and alternative. perspectives. So Huggsy, all these guys. You know, the three of them, I guess, were kind of the main targets. But there's a whole crew of them who are kind of representing the old media or the new media. They were upset. They were taking shots at us as we were dominating the coverage of the President's Cup as best we could. And so we had Jeff Shackleford on the show. He did, interestingly enough, sort of he put the first tweet out that said, I would love to come on the show to talk about it, but we know that would never happen and they would never invite us. Clearly, that's not the case. We'd be happy to discuss it with anyone.

So we had Jeff Shackleford on the show. About a 45-minute interview. It's been out for a couple days. Now I've been a lot of reaction for a lot of different corners of the golf world. I don't know that, like, I think the interview stands so strongly and really successfully on its own that I don't know we need to do too much. No. To sort of back it up. Should have put out a lurchy pole.

That was a dominating win. Yeah. It was a victory. My one reaction to the podcast or to the interview is that I thought it was going to be much more contentious. And there were parts that were, especially Frankie really going at him, which was good. Him, I knew it wasn't going to be as contentious as I originally thought immediately because he decided his angle was going to be, my beef is more with the PJ tour than it is with you guys. And that's like, that's a weird way to hedge all the things that had happened before that where he was clearly mad about us and our platform. and what we did at the President's Cup.

So for him to be like, no, no, no, this is more about the PJ Tour's restrictions. And I thought that you guys were skating on the rules when everybody else wasn't. That's when I knew it was going to be a different interview than I had envisioned. Right. And, you know, I sort of going in, and we had talked about this a little bit, it had been about a month or three weeks since we were all in Australia together and all this was going down. And we knew even when we were in Tasmania that we were going to have Shagrafir on the show. And, you know, we knew that we were right.

And so when you go into a discussion like this and an interview like that, it does kind of give you a lot of confidence going in feeling that you're right. And now, it's not even necessarily that we thought that since we were right that meant that he was like super wrong. It was more just that like everything we were doing to defend ourselves and to react and to respond was from a place of like we had the high ground. We were in an advantageous position, so therefore, as long as we didn't mess up during the interview, I thought it would go really well because, again, we did everything the way you're supposed to do it. And one of the biggest takeaways that I've gotten, and we talked to a lot of different people from outlets, players, caddies, other writers, whoever, is that I think a big misconception for people like Jeff Shagherford on us is that what we do is somehow easier or a shortcut to what they do. And I don't think that they understand that. And I think that it was very obvious and that Shagaford basically said that. And that he thought that somehow we were getting preferential treatment from the tour that was allowing us to get this access and these other videos and content that he is not allowed to get when in fact it's quite the opposite.

We've had a ton of run-ins. We've been banished. We've been, we've had issue after issue. And really that 15-second or 30-second video of Tiger Woods was months in the making. That was literally, we all sat in this studio, we had an hour-long conversation with the PGA tour, where we broke down, where can we be, where can't we be? Is it more advantageous for us to go as media credentialed or as fans because we can take videos this way? We could be in these interview areas. Okay, where are the interview areas, blah, blah, then we strategize with each other.

Where should we be at what point in the day? Where should our camera guys be? How are they going to film this without like putting off Tiger Woods? Have we massaged? And then boom, we get a 15 second fucking video with Tiger that gets millions of views. And it's awesome. It seems like we just were like, ha ha, we'll stroll on to the fucking tournament and we'll get a great video. That ain't how it works.

Another misconception is that with a guy like Shackleford is that he thinks that like a fist bump with Tiger is our end game, which it's essentially kind of is. But it's also like we want to do more things with Tiger. So we're continuing that relationship. So he thinks these guys are plotting and trying to get to these tournaments just so they can get a 15 second clip with a fist bump. Yeah, that's part of it. But we also want to continue the narrative that we are. we're boys with Tiger, which we are, we're pals, and we can maybe extend that into something going on in the future.

And his point about wanting things to be more profound and wanting things to evolve or whatever, that's kind of what we're aiming towards, where it's like we, yeah, we like these short clips where we get interaction with Tiger, but we're hoping that it leads to something else as well. It's not just, that's not the end. Totally. I mean, he made a comment during the interview where he said, players don't want to talk to him, and that's a huge frustration of his.

It's like you don't, Frankie doesn't hit lefty drives with JT before. you say hello and have a conversation and make it natural and make it a friend and then all of a sudden you can develop a relationship and a rapport and talk to these players i mean i think to your point yeah fist bump and then you know anything else like we're open to as a discussion to have some fun with the players and show it at a different light yeah and it's it he he did seem to like well i can't get this i don't have this access to the players and he blames it on like the agents and then you know i can't get the access to do a video that i want to do like you guys could with Tiger Woods because he blames it on like the tour and it's like at some point you got to kind of

look at yourself and what you're doing like if you've been at it for 10 years or 20 years like dude we've only been at it for like two or three and we just have figured it out like there are all these obstacles for all of us and again that's a huge part of what we do off the air is we debate like should we even fucking go to australies are going to be worth it this seems crazy you're not got this excess blah blah blah that's a big part of what we do and how we sort of have figured it out and and it's not going to be some simple answer and what he does is going to be different than what we do. But I did think, like, one of my, if we could go back,

because I wish I would have defended our content more when he did make the comment about, like, being profound and you guys need to evolve and this, that. And it was a 45-minute interview. There's only so many things you can defend and talk about. But like, I don't think that he gets that, you know, we've had Gil Hanson for an hour and talked about, you know, architecture, course architecture for dummies, basically, to try to present it to our audience. We've had Justin Thomas on for a full hour and gone through a million different shots

that he's hit or thoughts that he's. he's had or funny little quirks that it and we've done that with dozens of players dozens of people in the world of golf and so like we're versatile and diverse in the way that we cover things in that sometimes we'll put out a three or four minute video of us playing one hole sometimes we'll put out an hour and a half video of us playing with kevin chapel sometimes we'll do a fist bump with tiger and sometimes we'll do an hour long interview with bubble watson like we're diverse in what we put out and i don't think that he gets that i think there's a part of him that understands that and i think that he was just rattling off things to not come off as jealous.

And that's like, I use that word when we talk to him and when we were going after. I mean, he said that that was too strong of a word to use. It's more frustration. But it reeks of jealousy. It's like, hey, they're allowed to do these things and I'm not. They're talking to players and I can't. They are getting through agents and I won't. But we're not, like you just said, we're not like getting this golden past.

Is he forgetting? And maybe he just doesn't know this. Is that like, we have been banned by the PGA tour for years? That's been a storyline that we're just not allowed to go. Not only not get certain access, not even allowed to go. So what is like, this is a very new world for us to be in media tents. I've only been in three media tents my entire life. This guy's acting like-shouted in one.

What? Shouted in one. Shouted in one. Yep. I've eaten all the ice creams in there. But like he's acting like we have this like relationship with these, you know, governing bodies where they're like, oh, come on in guys. like tap, you know, the course is yours.

Like, dude, we, we are like, timid little mice when we first get there. We're like, we don't know what to do. We don't want to walk. Me and Trent never even want to walk inside the ropes. We feel like we're stepping out of, like, out of boundaries and stuff, you know? It's like, I don't know.

He just doesn't get it. He doesn't get our world. None of those guys are ever going to get our world. Old hugsie. He said he's back. So when it first happened. That old bag? Yeah, you would, you came in a little bit late.

He initially, when I got a screenshot from after the Max Home with stuff happened, it was like this user no longer exists. And now that I've, some people will send me screenshots now that it says you are just blocked by this user. It's not, it's like he has returned. So one day he just got back. He's like, you know, let me pull up this old Twitter and let me just, let me get rid of all the bad men first.

I bet the people he works for are like, dude, how are you going to promote the things that you do? Yeah. If you're not on Twitter, which is ironic because the thing he was criticizing Max Home for was self-promotion. But Huggsy now realizes that he needs self-promotion. Oh, man. Big time. The other thing is, like you were just saying, Frankie, with, like, okay, so you're describing a, like, severe frustration at others having something that you wish you had.

That is jealous. It's just a definition. When you look up jealousy in a fucking dictionary, it's Shackleford's fucking face right next to it. Like website and his little watercolor art that he has on his website with Jeff Shackleford looking like the Hollywood sign. You ever see that? It's so ridiculous. The guy wants to be huge. Dude, and he should be jealous.

Like I would be frustrated and jealous too He's been fucking working at this thing for 10, 15 years grinding and now And I've seen this tweet I can't steal this line But like he's Blockbuster and we're in Netflix It's just the way it works I saw it too Blockbuster worked their ass off They made a really good business

They were fucking everywhere Like a monopoly of video series And then this new age came around And they just knocked them off the planet And like that is so like it's a slower process And it's not as like obvious because there still is The market to read long form and serious articles about golf.

But like there is similarities in that where like he's probably super fucking frustrated that he can't just go out and give a high five to Tiger Woods and have it get millions of views. If he got if he gave Tiger Woods a high five, people would think it was like creepy. And that's like just the way it is. Like it's just like what is that? Who cares about Jeff Schiazschey? That's part of his brand too.

It's like dull pointed and kind of like old school. And it's just that's just not who we are. And so the content piece was tough to discuss in the 45 minutes because there's just so much to unpack there when you talk about like complain about our content versus his content. Also, at one point he said that if he dapped up or gave a high-five to Teggerwoods, he would get his credential removed, which is just incorrect on every level. I think he was ready to die on that hill pre-conversation of just being like, oh, no,

I call them fan boys and like, but then when we address the fact that, no, no, we still go through the same loops you do. We battle with these guys on different avenues. We gave them a video. They tweeted out from their own Twitter account. Like, I thought he was going to be able to move on to something else when we were asking him questions to not die on that hill, but he still kind of like reverted back to that as just like his easy way out because there was so much more to the backstory of how much he just doesn't

like this brand of Barstool that, you know, he wasn't diving into and where we kind of wanted to take him, but he wasn't allowing himself to go and just continuing to die on the hill of like, no, we play a different game. I noticed too that after, you know, we got a ton of tweets and stuff, like just I was doing a victory tour of just liking stuff that he was tagged in, just like Frank. He just put Jeff Shackaford like 10 feet under, whatever, six feet under. And he... One guy said he turned it off because he doesn't like to watch a death or massacre.

I was liking all the tweets and I noticed that he hadn't been active very much. And one person tweeted out like, man, that Jeff Shackleford really beat those guys up. And it was just like liked by Jeff Shacklebrose. I got one. You know? I know that he doesn't know how to use social media that well because I'm hooked up to the four play account on my Twitter. So I get all the notifications for those. and he will tweet at groups of people who are interacting with Foreplay.

And his responses are things like, oh, I don't know. They let people with that low of a follower account be on Twitter or like, oh, are you a bot? And he's just, his responses are that of a person who's just like bitter. Yeah, anytime you're going after someone else's follower account, like that is, you're never in the right or like impressive. No. No. vantage point there you're always look like an idiot is really the best way to jealous boyfriend or girlfriend like you're just like trying to pick it something worth totally and again what does that

have to do like what are you talking about and you made a good point we talked about at the end of the interview with him where we appreciate him coming on totally it takes big balls to come in here and and to you know combat with us and we appreciate him doing that I think we all have a level of respect for him now that we didn't have before but again I think we pretty handily won that interview yeah I feel I feel great about the way that it went You know, I do think, like, there is a certain, you know, anytime you're in something like this, you do try to like, okay, put yourself in his shoes. What's the way?

And it probably does suck. You've worked at something for like your whole life and your breed and you think you've really built something. And he's on Golf Channel and he's got these different things and it's great. And then it's just kind of like we barge onto the scene. And, you know, we're getting all these great things. People are going nuts. Are, if he wants to really talk about followers or whatnot, like, we're pretty fucking up there. when it comes to that stuff.

So it probably has to be very frustrating. And so then for him to come in here, have it before on one and all that, total respect. I, uh, you know, maybe he feels good about how it went. We feel great about how it went and we move on. Happens to us too. We get jealous about certain people too. You see like in our world where like now TikTok stars, you see these fucking articles where it's like this, these TikTok stars are making $5 million a month doing videos of like them

singing and dancing in this like hype house or whatever the fuck it is. These kids are 12 years old, 13 years old. Like, things like this always happen. Different people come in and you look at them. You're like, well, why the hell are they making so much money and getting so many views? And we're out here fucking sitting in an office in New York City for years. For years.

As many years is Jeff Sagerford. You have, no, not, no. But like, it's just, that's the way media works. G-off. Like, you just got to do it. Like, you just got to adapt with the times. And he says, I have adapted with the time. Like, you know, I now have a radio show and a podcast and the whole thing.

You have adapted at the time. Who knows? Maybe 20 years we're going to be going to be going. on the new wave golf podcast. Totally. And we're going to be yelling at our phones and it's like not going to be working. It happens to everybody.

How much new thing? That was a great piece of the show. Was that you, Jake? Stay right there. Don't move. Don't move. Did you do the phone? In the kitchen?

Did you do the phone thing on purpose, Jake? No. He's shaking his head now. That was so funny. That was a great piece. What do you, how much of no more new age you think golf could get? I don't know. But that's the thing you don't see it coming.

Jeff didn't see us coming. When he was blogging 10 years ago, he did not see the four play boys coming. This was so old man media of him. and he's saying he doesn't even like the word blog. He like, it's like acid on his tongue. He just hates it. He can't,

he can't stand it. I will say when I, anytime I referenced when he made his little quip at us on my tweets and all that, I made a point to write blog not article every time. Because I know that just like eliminates a little piece of his soul every time. It just is so sour. To the single strike through across blog and write article. He also is just not that old.

What is he like, no, he's not. Well, he said that. He made like one comment. He just doesn't care about followers. And then that's why I asked, like, what are your goals of doing content? But he didn't really answer that directly because I was interested here.

Like, is it just to protect, like, the crusty old, like, golf world? Or, like, why do you do it if you don't care about anybody that follows you? My one regret. And you just brought it up where he said, I didn't get into this to have a bunch of followers. That's bullshit. To say I got into this business, not to have a ton of followers, that's someone who it's just worked out that way. The things that you have done and the things that you are passionate interested in just don't have a huge audience or you haven't adapted so you have one that's that's

just bullshit i wish i'd said that i've just lost yeah right yeah i mean i you know you do like i think there's some merit to like you you do something because you like like to do it right like i think there's some merits like he genuinely enjoys breaking down course architecture and how it affects play yeah so like i think that's true but i think too like he's smart enough to know that in order to do that for a living, you have to have a substantial audience. And so therefore, the size of your audience matters dramatically and is tied directly to you being able to do what you want to do and being able to create whatever kind of content you want to create. It has to be, they are directly tied together. They have a direct correlation and effect on each other. And that's clear. So like,

yeah, you have to have that to have the other. And I don't think that he did a great job of like showing that he understood that. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Thinking about foot cramp. What did you say? Foot cramp. That's not like, that's just something that happens over the course of battle.

But that could help you elongate yourself. Yeah. But like purposely, what do you got to be dehydrated? Don't drink water all day. Tighten up your foot. Tighten up your foot and just think about it. We're talking about coming right now. Yeah.

What are we doing? No, we're trying to. I was talking to talk about not coming. Yeah. I was looking on my laptop. And I was just, I was like, looking at our video from Tobacco Road and I was just like mesmerized by it and I just heard you guys talk about

some foot crants. What we're talking about? Well I think Lurge might have been trying to reference what I have talked about as a trick that I was told at high school which was to not curl your toes but that just doesn't work. You still just come when you do that. Yeah. What do you do? What do you do? I just come. What do you mean? What do I do? Yeah. I just

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I think it went well. I think it speaks for itself. Headlines. Patrick Reed says he did not hear the heckler who yells. called Cheater Adam at Capulah. I 100% believe this. I actually thought in real time, when I watched it, I thought he's not reacting to the person.

He's reacting to the fact that his putt to extend the tournament just missed. That's fine, but the fact that he might have been reacting to that, but to say he didn't hear it, that's like you just didn't hear like a gun go off. No, I think in the moment. Tree falls in the forest. I think in the moment we're there, all he's focused on is like the putt, the reed, how to win this golf tournament. and it's windy out there.

And, like, I don't think he's hearing, like, a guy yell cheater. Like, the guy screams into the microphone. We all heard it. I don't know that, like, I think it's, I don't think his reaction in real time either. I don't think that he heard it. I think he's being honest. I mean, he could have been so conditioned by his time in Australia that maybe he's not reacting to this, anybody yelling at him anymore, but I still think that he heard it.

I don't. I don't think that, like, if you asked him, and this is, again, if you ask him 30 seconds after, like, tell us one word, like, distinct word that was, like, yelled among the crowd. I think he was like, what are you talking about? I don't know the crowd like, yeah. I don't think he noticed. Do you have something? Well, when I watched it in real time,

I did think he was just looking out into the distance because of the put. Same. Because I, to be honest, wasn't watching it with any volume on. So it looked normal to me when I was just like, oh, he's looking at his caddy. But I think in the, and to Lurgeon's point about being conditioned, like Tiger Woods, he's heard his name called so many times that when he's walking through a crowd,

I think he hears it, but he's not going to react to it. I think Patrick Reed, when someone yells something like that, I think he hears it, but I don't think he's going to react to it because he knows that will get a reaction. So you're almost saying cheaters in the same vein as Tyre. But what I'm saying is these guys get conditioned to hearing things and not reacting to that. The cheaters, the tiger is the tiger. Dude, also, like, as the ball was rolling by the whole, he could have, like, mentally been like, oh, or something. Like, you don't know, like what you're thinking. That's exactly what I think.

You're like, holy shit, like, it's going right. Like, you're just not thinking about what's happening exactly 45. 50 feet away. You know what I mean? You're not thinking about like, um, deciphering what people were saying. Like you're just thinking like you're so focused on what's happening like on such a lower level. Someone could have yelled like nuclear bomb and I don't think he would have hurt. Like I think he's just like focused on the situation. Like when we're playing and we do these videos and stuff like I probably don't like if you if if I hit like a long put or miss a put and I just heard noise, I wouldn't know specifically I feel like what you guys even said. I just like heard noise. You know

I mean? Like it's just you're in the moment. Like you're trying to try to hit the put like you. Even in the video we just put out. You didn't even know I said, no, I was standing right next to you when, when I said, when I said, when I said, when I said, get in the fucking bunker. Like, it's just you're in the moment. I did hear, though. I said, no. You heard it, but like you didn't know, like, in the moment of doing something. And you heard it, you're like in the moment. And you said, yeah, he screamed it maybe into the mic and that's why it was so loud for us. But then remember, we saw the alternate angle. I don't know if we ever put it out. That Jake showed us from the crowd. It's loud. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a. It was like a. It was. Must be your volume. He definitely. And it was so stark against the complete quiet that is a golf crowd. And no one's going to normally yell a while a putts on the way. No. And then he just does.

And it sounds like a goddamn shotgun goes off. It is true that he did it amongst just silence. Silence. Like a hockey game or something, nobody's talking in an ice scream cheater. The whole hole is going to hear me. I appreciate him saying that he didn't hear it because that's way funnier. And that's like pissing people off even more. And that's going to make.

people yell it even more because they're going to be like, I'm going to make this. You're going to hear this one, Pat. Yeah, but I think he did hear it. I just think he's got a way of just twisting the knife a little bit on everybody. He definitely does. I mean, he's a little bit of like a real-life troll. Yeah. I like that.

Right? Like he's trolling the Europeans. He's trolling the crowd. He's trolling the internationals. He's trolling the international crowd. He's trolling even the American crowd that's yelling cheater at him. A part of him does love that. And it's kind of, you know, it's kind of like if you're trying to look at it positively from Patrick Reed's angle, it's kind of a top level athletes or whatever, like always find something to motivate them, right?

They don't boo nobodies. Right. Right. So you have to like, even if you have to exaggerate what the truth is to like turn it into motivation for you, you do that. And I think Patrick Reed does that too. Like what hard, what he's able to like use as motivation and benefit from is like clearly these. moments when he thinks everyone's against him. And so if one person yelling, he takes that as fuel going in like, that's his

bolt-in-board material. It's like, everyone's fucking against me and that's when he thrives. So it definitely could be an angle of that where he's using all of this. Keep him coming. Yeah, right. Where it like makes him better. That would be my opinion on it. I think he definitely heard it.

There's just, it's, it's humanly impossible to have not heard that word yelled. Right. At that moment. I agree with you. Now, Rigg said that if, someone yelled nuclear bomb, he wouldn't have reacted? I disagree with that. I think that if someone yelled bomb, that's off brand for a Patrick Reed time frame.

Well, and he would have reacted. No, I don't think he would have heard it. I think he's, like, not in a position to hear. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let's also, let's also dissect this a little more because I want to ask one question. I wouldn't react to nuclear bomb either because it's too late.

Okay? It's too late. If it's a bomb. What am I going to run? If it's a bomb, I'll take off. But nuclear bomb, it's like, well, we're all in this together because those puppies are big. So that would be the difference. If I'm going to run and stare, you're like, fuck.

My eyes roll back into my head like, here we go. The light coming behind you. She's like, fuck. Like that clip from Iron Man, but this time it actually just takes me out. Yes. You know, nuclear bomb I wouldn't react to. Bomb I would react to. All right.

So someone says something on brand for me. It's like, hey, big guy. Hey, Lurch, whatever. I'm not going to react. much when I miss a put. If someone in my back swing in a big crowded area would, were to yell bomb, I would react. I think because that's not off-brand to the norm of sayings that come at me. In your back swing?

Anytime. I'm just going to react to that term, where if my buddies are talking or making fun of me or something like that on the tea, doesn't matter. But if one of my buddies in that same moment yells bomb, I'm going to pull off the tea and freak. What I'm saying is you're not Patrick Reed with a putt to win a golf tournament. You're fucking lurch. Right. Right.

So like much worse. Significantly. So like. At what? Everything or just? Well, you're in a much worse situation than Patrick Reed winning a golf tournament. Tough to argue. Correct.

Not saying I'm not. I'm just talking about you. So I'm not going to fight that. So my theory is not based on like, it is based like it doesn't matter what was said. It's that I think he was in a state where like he wasn't going to hear anything. Not that his ears don't work. Just that like his ears aren't in a position. It's almost like all of the sound is blurry, right?

Like if you make his ears like eyes like, yeah, he can like, he has vision but everything's just blurry. He's not like able to like make things out. Same thing with like the sound. Like yeah, things are being said and noises are happening. But like he's just in a trance in like a blur of noise because he's so focused. I'd like to go to one of your really big, uh, lurch is really big like tennis matches or something. And I want to scream out something just so obscure and see if you hear it while you're about to like make contact with a ball. I will say, so I don't do any grunts or anything like that.

I will say if any of my old players that I used to coach were on wherever to listen to this podcast, my players who I coach would say that I had a loudest voice in the world. What? The players that are used to coach. Right. I was just ignoring. See, that was just like Patrick. I can't even make a high-pitched noise.

You know what it is? I'm saying when I coached lacrosse and I think a couple of players that I used to coach listen to this podcast, I would scream at the top of my lungs across the field. And I will say at every instance, I think my voice was heard to the referees, to the players. That's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying that if you were like about to serve and you're about to make contact and right after you make it. Right after you make it though. And like you're in it and you're about to like return the surf.

If I was just like smoking bacon. I would hear you. I don't think you would. Well, from how close? You don't have a loudness. As far as the other guy that guy was from Patrick Green. I think you're just like ready to return the serve. You wouldn't know what I said.

You wouldn't know what I said. You maybe heard the voice, but you wouldn't know, like I said, like, Smokey Bacon! Right. If you're at your tennis club, you're in the middle of the- No, it's not. No, it's not. Same shit.

He said he didn't hear it. Because it's quite- The guy said cheater. He just like. But I will say that guy, I'm saying that guy's voice was much louder and much clearer than you saying, smoking bacon. Smokey bacon. Smokey bacon.

I did say smoking to start. But he's saying like this. I'm just saying, you may not know word for what I said. And then like, if someone asked me, what did Frankie scream? You'd be like, I heard him say something, but I don't know. That's a more interesting conversation. It's not whether he heard it or not.

It's whether he heard what was said. I think that's what he meant. That's what he meant. I didn't know exactly what I'm saying. I think he knows like noises were made, but I don't think he knows exactly what was said. He didn't look up because that guy said cheater and he's like growing up. There's no one else talking, though.

It was like dead. Right. And what Riggs was referring to earlier? I think that what do they call that selective hearing. But that's only in a situation where there's multiple noises at once. This one. But I do think like, for this situation, I think

I would make the argument that there probably were in his head multiple noises at once, right? Like, he's got a lot of thoughts in his head about like, all right, like left to right, put this, that. So like in his head it's not just dead silent. He's not just like blindly and deftly like sitting there. He's like

he's fucking got a ton of thoughts and like I'm going to work through this part that, the tournament's on the line, this. So he, and then there's a noise that was made and it's like he didn't decide for exactly what was said because all this stuff's going on in his head even though it's quiet to the observer. Now I can't decide if I'm an idiot because when I first read it, I definitely took it as he didn't hear anything. He didn't think anything happened.

It's impossible. I was never on that side. That's where I started for sure. Okay. I think he like, he might have to evaluate if you're an idiot or not. I think he's like, oh, fuck. And like, you hear something, but you're just like, what? What was that?

That guy could have yelled, get in the hole or he could have yelled whatever. Bash potatoes. He could have yelled cheater. I don't know. Somebody yelled something. I don't know. Smack my grundle. Like anything.

Yeah. It could have been anything, dude. What do you think now? Did we switch you? Well, I think I switched myself because I was just stupid. I was like, yeah, there's something. What do you mean? I ordered a rapid pickup today from Panera and they just didn't make it.

Oh, that's the spider. How about that? But they are. It sounds like you got one of those express tickets at the Melbourne airport. How are rangers? I was standing there and I'm like, this is the opposite of rapid. And it's actually non-existent. Do you pay for rapid?

No. What do you mean? You pay before you go. You don't pay extra, though. But did you, let me ask you this, did you go to the, did you order from the right one, the right location? Okay. Why would you not get rapid then? If you don't have to pay extra for rapid, why would you?

No, it's the same thing. It's just their terminology for like pick it up in 10 minutes. Oh, okay. Yeah, there's no pickup and rapid pickup. It's just one. Okay. That sucks, though. I'm sorry that happened to you.

I'm sorry to. It was tough. I'm starving. Blood sugar's pretty low. I'm very hungry. I haven't eaten really. We had my guy, we had my guy. I had my guy.

I had my guy. We had our recurring guest who actually doesn't come the podcast. We'll get him during the off season, but Devon Taze was in the office again today. Who was? First time meeting Lurch. Mm-hmm. So now he's met the whole crew.

Good guy. He is such a nice guy. Really nice guy. Really nice Canadian boy. Travis St. Denis. Big win for them last night. Dennis.

Huge. I bet them money line. I don't know why I just churched up his name. I did a fucking riggs. You did a me. Travis St. St. Denis. I think it's Travis St.

St. Denis. Yeah, except I churched it up and was just way off. Dave won't. Yeah. Whatever. My argument was I tried to French Canadian in it. He's just not from there. Right.

So I kind of looped all Canadians in with like French Canadians. It's just not. Way different. It's the other country. Here's another thing. I'll just close this on that. I'll put a little ribbon on this one. He was chirping the shit out of me for my impersonation of his father.

And he said that I made his father Irish with my Canadian accent. Do it again? Oh, yeah. See, now I'm fucked now. Now you're thinking about Irish. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, shit.

Hey. A, yeah, yeah You know what DeVon told me about the wine, yeah You're doing good You're looking at me like I The look on my face That's not that you were doing well You're not committed to it

Whatever you're trying to do Just go all in on it He doesn't even have like a starting point right now No, I know Yeah, he needs like the first three words Like when you start somebody off singing Oh, Jerryo That's English

No, you got to do Sorry, sorry Oh, sorry yeah Devon Devon came over with the wine, yeah You know Hey? You know it was the best part about it.

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Letgo.com slash barstool. Okay. More on Patrick Green. Commissioner J. Monahan came out. and said, I believe Patrick, golf is a game of honor and integrity. If you've heard from Patrick and you've heard from Patrick, I've had the opportunity to talk to Patrick at length. And I believe Patrick, how many times can he say Patrick?

I believe Patrick when he says that he did not intentionally improve his lie. So you go back to that moment and the conversation that he had with the rules official slugger white legend and the fact that a violation was applied and he agreed to it and they signed his card and moved on to me, that was the end of the matter. So the reason I continue to bring this up is because the Patrick Reed situation really is, is golf Twitter, especially more of like traditional golf Twitter and whatnot. They are so riled up about the Patrick Reed thing to the point that Jeff Shackford, the whole reason we got into this was that his blog, blog that he wrote after the President's Cup,

summarizing the whole thing, was that nobody should feel satisfied because the team with Patrick Reed on it, who was a cheater won the tournament. That's crazy. That is crazy. I look at it, at least from my vantage point, I'm a storyline guy. I am a big picture storyline guy. And if the continued persecution or non-persecution of Patrick Reed makes people furious, then I like it. I'm all for it.

Like what do people want? They want that everyone to, all right, we're going to punish Patrick Reed. And then Patrick Reed is going to change his ways and we're all going to be better going forward. And that's going to be the most boring story of all time. The more it gets angles like this where Jay Monaghan is like, I believe him. So you guys can cry and bitch and moan and all. you want but I believe him and we're going to end the matter there and that makes people furious I love it this is the best storyline of the year so far in 2020 yep that Patrick reed is a big old

cheater but that he's really good at golf and like a top 10 player in the world top 15 player in the world almost win in tournaments winning presidents cup booing and chirping the fans fans are chirping to him his caddy is like attacking fans in the crowd and here he has the commissioner of the entire tour defending him it's awesome and the only thing that would satisfy the people who are are mad at Patrick Reed would not make Patrick Reed Patrick Reed like it would make him a far more boring personality and I don't want that so I'm not on that side it's also like golf is based on this whole idea of like integrity and calling rules on yourself and this and that and so like if he says his intent wasn't to like cheat

then it's it's like how could people have a differing like how can people be so upset about that and be so convinced that like he 100% had to cheat like I don't I guess their argument would be that they are he's violating that trust yes but like you know so do those same people like when tiger had his issue with like the oscillating ball yeah and all of that and like then brandle came out and was like he gave tiger like an F on his report card for the year and he got like he had to like apologize and got like lambast and all that his opinion was that like based on the information, just like the whole world's opinion is now, that, like, he thought Tiger was being dishonest about the rules and not doing what most people should do. So my question is, like,

it seems way more just about Patrick Reed than it is about that instance. And I think everyone's allowing that all to seep in when they clearly didn't in the other street. Because it's, it's really, like, it's the same argument that, like, they're basing their opinion that he definitely cheated, and therefore, we're going to call him a cheetah forever off of, like, the same thing that happened. with Tiger that year where there was like two or three different instances. They thought he had an illegal drop at Sawgrass when he won the players championship. They thought that his ball when it oscillated in the woods that he definitely saw it. Therefore, so like his claim was like, no, no, no, I didn't see it.

And Patrick Claims, Patrick Reed's claim is like, no, no, no, I didn't do that. I didn't know that I was doing that in purpose. I wasn't to improve my lot. So to me, it just seems like hypocritical some people. They should be like all in on one side or the other, whereas Brandl-Chambley got literally like lambasted for the whole thing. He had to like stop writing for a certain outlet and had to like apologize to my Mark Steinberg and Tiger and all that.

Whereas Patrick Reed now, it's like you're basically outcasted if you're not against Patrick. Well, what if, so Patrick Reed, he went in video booth. He asked, is this the only view you have? They said, yes, he agreed to the penalty. What if potentially, you know, he didn't really cheat? Like, what if he was a foot down the line? I've only seen the camera angle where it looks directly down the line. It looks like the club is directly behind the ball.

if that club is a foot behind the ball, he's not really improving his lie. And you cannot tell that from the video that is out there. As to be like a devil's advocate on the whole situation. We're trying to just look at it from every angle. Exactly. What if he didn't cheat? Like what if knowingly he did that? And that's the only angle.

That's what it was. Obviously it looks terribly from how it's portrayed to everybody. But I've never seen like a top-down view. I've only seen the one down the line. The one down the line looks horrible. We need an Abraham's a pruder. We need somebody out of the world. And this is where we can really help the situation.

Somebody to come forward. You out there, grab your phone, look back through it. Do you have a video that looks at it? Because it can look bad. Oh, that one's bad. See, I think that one, like, it's not a foot, man. You know what? You can go ahead and delete that.

But I am like he. That one's close, man. Looks like it's in the same divot. It is. Yep. Suck it back. Dude, it's almost, it was. It's plenty good that video.

He was grabbing. information like it was almost genius to Padgerie walked in was like, do you have any other angles? They're like no and he's like, who, who, right? I'll take a two shot penalty, fine. That's a fake surveillance camera. Love it. I can get away with murder.

That's fantastic. And now look, like, do I think, do I think what Padraigree did was like illegal and like intentional and like, like, clearly? I don't know how you can like watch all that. I mean, that video that you just showed is worse than what I remembered. I remembered it being looking terribly. That's worse than I remember. It's like I, yes.

It's so bad. Clearly, clearly that's like, right now. It's so bad. Clearly that's like what I, like, that's the takeaway from that. I'm just, I think it's, I feel like we've seen stuff relatively similar over the years, even if it's only been a couple examples that has not gotten the same like universal. He's a cheater. Well, it's roast them because a lot of times they do fall back on this whole like, well, it's about intent.

And if they claim their intent was this or that, then like, what, what else can you do? Whereas this one, like, they're just not. letting it go. Yeah, people can say until they're blue in the face that it's not because this involves Patrick Reed, but that's a gigantic part of it. It's huge. Absolutely. And you are right to any article.

I think our boy, Aiman Lynch even wrote an article maybe that was like, this is, Patrick Reed thing's not going away and it's really bad for golf. I don't know that it is. I think it's great. Yeah. Best part of the clip, oh, sorry, I'm watching her. The full clip, he's looking at this thing like a hawk. He takes 10 to 12 practice swings and, like, gets his club.

there. So it's like to tell me that you didn't know you like scuffed up some sand like I mean his entire entire like he lived to know how this ball was going to be sitting in that sand. Look at him. He's walking around the ball. He's looking at it. He actually walks to the side angle and looks to see like what kind of lie he has. Like dude, you're going to tell me you didn't notice if you touched any sand.

That's crazy. Yeah, my take was inaccurate. I thought the camera angle. being lower and maybe you couldn't tell the depth but in that situation it's pretty close you go back That's cheating man If you go back

Many moons on this podcast You will hear us utter the words That golf needs a villain And now we have one And some people just can't handle it But the way that we look at At least the way that I look at it personally This is it's fine for golf

It might be even a good thing for golf Yep I agree and I did notice Somebody else some other like small like new podcast was I don't know if his with the golf channel or somebody's new podcast they did somebody's like big monumental take was that golf needs a villain I was like that might have been our first show we ever did I will call on that podcast and I will be the old guy being like that's mine that's mine my phone hello that's mine we've been we've been preaching that forever and now that it's here I think some people are a little maybe they don't see it for what it is but like

we said when he says he didn't hear the heckler or whatever that to me is another part of that where he's just kind of like, I'm going to do my own thing, and if it pisses people off, so be it. Which, again, I think makes the storyline great. 100%. It's excellent for the story.

Storyline. Storyline. We work at a storyline company, a narrative company, and I think all other sports and leagues should operate the same way. Because this is bringing, people are paying attention to it

who otherwise might not be, the minute someone hears cheater, golf fan or not, they're like, what's that all about? That seems like there's something going on over there that I might be interested in. Boom. And you're telling me this cheater's wearing all black and might sneak his way into winning this golf tournament on Sunday afternoon. And his wife might be pulling all the strings behind the scenes. Like it becomes very interesting, very quickly, as opposed to people like he's a cheater.

He should get on his knees, beg for forgiveness, completely change the type of person he is and become completely and utterly boring. You're telling me his wife made him like extricated, like cut off all communication with his family. and then calls into the New York Times and like bitches about his relationship with Jordan Spieth after they lose the writer. And while they're... Yeah, I'll turn it on my fucking TV. While they're saying that,

I'm rifling through my phone to try to show them the outfit she wore at the Masters. Like, it's just the whole thing is... The whole thing is interesting. And her brother is his caddy who went after a fan in the crowd in Australia. This is great. People who aren't seen it for what it is

need to open their eyes. Because it's very interesting. Yes, it is. And that's just, we like that. Chris DeMarco with, I don't know if people saw this tweet. I think it's since been deleted, but he tweeted on Sunday night, which I think even Shagher for a matter of reference this one,

but he tweeted, quote, tweeted the Patrick Green interview right after the cheater yell and he lost her, but just wrote, is there a bigger dick in the world? Own your stuff. Always excuses. Just say you cheated and you got beat, exclamation from Christa Marko, who I then, just a little side fact. I then went through today to try to find this tweet. and Chris DeMarco's Twitter feed is pure Trump.

Oh, really? The whole thing. Yeah, I haven't searched Chris DeMarco on Twitter. I haven't gone in there. Because, you know, DeMarco used to battle Tiger forever and the famous 05 masters when Tiger hold out the chip on 16. That was against Chris DeMarco when he had a several years stretch where he's always there. He's on golf channel now all the time as one of their analysts, panelists. And so I just went through scrolling.

And yeah, you need to be ready if you go through his Twitter feed. He's retweeting all kinds of Iran stuff. And I was like, I'm just trying to get to the Patrick Reed comment. I'm trying to get to the part where you called him the biggest dick in the world. That's what I'm trying to find. That's what I'm here for. But again, even that. And I hate to beat a dead horse.

But Chris DeMarco is saying, is there a bigger dick in the world about Patrick Reed? A plus. A phenomenal. That's the world. So his use of periods is strong. I mean, is there a bigger dick in the world? Period. Own your stuff.

Period. Always excuses. Period. Just so you cheated and got beat. Exclamation point. I mean, that's some serious punctuation. That's throwing punches. Those aren't question mark.

No. Making fucking statements. Comma, kind of softening a little bit. Just looking back at this Patrick Reed tweet from the Red Sox game, one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Read it to me. Thank you at PGA tour for the tickets to the Red Sox game tonight. I love how you put my wife, sister-in-law, and myself in the line drive section. We paid $650 and ended up in the same section as the rest of the PGA tour.

Hashtag front row. That's just a picture of him. sister-in-law and his wife just sitting there. I love it. I love how you put my wife and sister-in-law in the same section as the rest of the PGA tour. Patrick Reed doesn't even know that tweet was tweeted. No. He's like, what are you talking about? Why are you complaining that you're with the rest of the PGA

I don't understand? I just love how you put us in the line drive section. I love that. It's perfect. I love it. Like a lot of people sit in the line drive section. We paid $650 and ended up in the same section as the rest of the PGA tour. How is that tweeted and how is that not sent to someone like you know what I mean like if you're complaining about your seats with the pj2 why are you tweeting that and why are you taking a picture of it yeah they took like a selfie added the pj tour two times and then i would imagine since then patrick reed has come across

mini pjure tour players and then they're like why don't you want to steal it over the red box game do you imagine the process of her getting that tweet out where she's like hey pat just hand me your phone here real quick we're gonna take a we're gonna take a quick selfie yep to take a selfie then yeah no one sec i just kind of added it and then she just tweets I don't even think it's like, I can't find it. I can't get to it. I don't even think it's that. I think she either has access to her Twitter or she just holds her hand out.

Like she finds out where she's sitting. She sits down. She just holds her hands out. He just slowly goes into his pocket and just like plops it in her hand. There's a very real chance Patrick Reed doesn't know he has a Twitter account. Absolutely. That could be an option as well. And I was his Twitter.

Patrick Reed's Twitter account started following you and I, Trent, recently. So that might be, that is not, that might not be Patrick Reed following up. We got the heat. on us. Something's looking down. He, yeah, we didn't say this on the podcast,

but he did follow both of us. I got the notification when I was back home in Iowa. Patrick Reed followed me on Twitter at 121 a.m. Christmas morning. Weird. Weird.

I mean, you and I might get a DM from that account. That's like, I know where you live, motherfucker. Yeah. We'd be like, that ain't Patrick.

It's concerning. It's concerning to say the least, but also like, I'm a little, like, titillated by what's, why are we getting followed by Patrick Reed in the middle of the night. Tittalated. in a little.

Yeah. It's exciting. You really titillated? We're doing something if Patrick Reed slash Justine Reed is following us on Twitter on Christmas morning. Damn right. We're doing something. Yeah.

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Says that the media twisted his comments on playing with Tiger Woods Which is probably true If you recall from the President's Cup There was a couple weeks beforehand it was let up Where like Abraham Answer calls out Tiger Woods at the President's Cup Tiger then led with himself on Sunday To play against Abraham Answer, he did He beat him very handedly

And then gave a world famous fist pump Fispump Dap Up Fist Pump to the foreplay crew on camera Which was filmed put out millions of views and led to much controversy. A war. A war. Abraham Ancer's original comment was I would like to play against Tiger. But the truth is that our objective is to do everything we can to win.

Winning a match in the singles would be very special. So we need to try to get the cup. That, of course, became Abraham Answer, calls out Tiger Woods at the President's Cup. That's what everybody wrote. We probably talked about it. But that's just what it became. Tiger after beating Abraham Answer, whatever it was, three and two, four and two, something like that. Four and three.

I think it was four and two. Whatever it was. He said Abe wanted it and he got it. Abraham Answer then this week said, I was like, well, I'm 12 guys who I would like to play on a big stage in an event like that. Obviously, I would like to play my hero growing up Tiger Woods. It would be an incredible experience. And so I didn't only learn from the golf course and from golf. I learned a lot about media and how it can get twisted.

Yeah, definitely got twisted in just the context of how I said things. Maybe Tiger didn't know the way that I said it. I think everything he's saying is true. Everything about it is true. This is what happens in media. Things get blown out of proportion. Tiger took it. And Tiger did a lot, I'm sure, about what I was talking about earlier that Patrick Reed does,

where Tiger grabbed it. Tiger uses whatever the hell he needs to use for fuel for motivation. He's 40 fucking four years old now to find a way to really want to get out there and dust people and have that laser focus and all that effort outside of the golf course that requires. I think he has to get up at fucking 2 a.m. to get his body ready to play golf. In order to do all that, be at the top of the game, he needs some sort of motivation. So I think Tiger probably grabbed that quote and said, I am going to use this as fuel. So I think everything that everybody's saying is probably pretty correct.

That's exactly what I was going to say. I think Tiger sees both sides of it, but he's able to, he's been doing it for so long that he's able to put it in his brain. He can compartmentalize it where like this is the part I'm going to use. even though I know he's saying it and he said it recently where he's like Tiger Woods is my hero like I just want to be great to play against him Tiger can separate that out and he can put it in his brain where he's saying I want to play Tiger Woods because I think I can beat him and Tiger just like his engine just start up and he gets ready to go I think that's I think everybody sees both sides of it and yeah answer it got taken out of context but that's just kind of what happens unfortunately and I think and I think there were again yeah yes some folks golf journalists or what I saw that were We're sort of taking some shots at Tiger on Sunday afterwards for like, oh, Tiger's clearly misrepresenting what Abraham Answer said. I can't believe he came back with that aggressive of a comment. Abe wanted it and he got it.

That's what Tiger's going to do, man. Mike Trent said. He convinced himself in his own brain, even though his own brain is smart enough to know that that's now Abraham Answer meant it. He convinced himself that that's how Abraham Answer meant it so that he could go take out Abraham Answer. That's why he's the goat. He took his hat off before the putt was even close to the hole, and he shook his hand and he said, you just got dusted.

Abe asked for it. And that's how you become the greatest player of all time in a fucking machine that we equate to the Terminator. Boom. Correct. From the gallery. Foreplay at barstolesports.com. That's how you submit. We got about 20 more minutes here before we got to go to radio, folks.

So we're going to rip through some of these from the galleries. If you would like to submit, you title it from the gallery, and you email it to foreplay at barstlesports. com. Please keep it short or I will not read it. Eric says, have you guys seen the advertisements for the S7K putter? I feel like it's something Mr. Borrelli would love. Eric. We must have not had these conversations on air

because we have had endless conversations about the S7K putter. And exactly what you said, this is exactly something that Mr. Brelli would use. I'm looking through my tweets. I've been talking about the spin doctor since 2017 on this podcast. Yeah.

It's 2020 now. Yeah. I'm getting tweets about, because I'm looking back. And. But this is that putter. You know the one that stands up on its own? What I mean is that my dad's been using these trick clubs since before I was born.

If you don't think that he would like to, you know, go around a golf course. What is it called? S7K putter. The S7K putter that stands up on itself so you can align yourself. You can align the putt. You step back. You see it. It's like a trick to.

It's like you go to putt and you just leave the club just like floating in the air. He would love that. It would be one of the great crimes of this new decade if we don't get a video of your father. using this putter. We need to do a shot for shot parody of the commercial. January 8th. That would be genius. January 8th.

His birthday is January 16th. All right. What's the website? I mean, we got... S7KGolf.com. You know, at some point, we got to get this goddamn putter. I mean, I'm ordering right now. Was he right hand or left hand?

He's a right hand. Okay. We're going to do it. We're going to not only will it be funny to make the video, but it is a good gift because Mr. Borelli will 100% use it legitimately every time you plays. The video will be hilarious, but then also every couple months when Frankie's out on the course with his dad, when I see an Instagram story topic, you fucking kidding me. Dude, the first time he goes up there with the S7K putter does it and then steps away,

he's going to feel like Jerry Seinfeld at the comedy seller or something. He's going to be just ready to go. It's an all-time moment. That is an all-time step away, where you're lining up a butt and you just release your hands and walk away. You can release your hands and the place goes fucking nuts. Like, whoa! Let me read this part right here. When you golf with him for the whatever time and you know, he knows, but the people you're playing with don't know about it, he will just be the ultimate showman.

Oh, man. He's going to golf more next year than he's ever golf just because we're going to have to get him all these tricks. I'd like to feel that thing. Is the bottom of it just like 15 pounds and the shaft is just an ounce? It's got to be the heaviest thing in the water. Lurcher's got to be an anvil on the. the end of that thing. It's just, it's not going anywhere.

It's the worst putter weight of all the time. But to give Mr. Brelli's moment, he won't care. It's the best. I'll do it. The best part of the video, I'm watching their little promo now. So good. The best part of the video when we have your dad do it is going to be when he misses all that, when they say traditional putter and he just can't even, he's not even fucking close.

Yes. So yes, to answer your question, Eric, we have seen advertisements for the S7K putter. We're incredibly aware of it. And we're going to get that in Mr. Breley's hands. You were thinking exactly what we were thinking. So good. I'm going to go to Sean. Sean says, I think we are all in agreement that Tiger is making the Olympic team this year.

What do you think the possibility is for him to be the flag bearer for Team USA and the opening ceremonies? That would be awesome, the goat leading all of Team USA and the parade of nations. Is that what it's called the Parade of Nations? I know what he's talking about. Holding up the stars and stripes inspiring the entire team to dominate the Olympics. I mean, I'm definitely interested in that scenario that he just listed out, yeah. I really wanted to read that because I just wanted to paint that visual in everybody's head of the entire world, the parade of nations, red, white and blue, and Tiger Woods is like holding a fucking, the flag. And he's the flag bear leading all of America into where are the Olympics this year?

Tokyo. Into Tokyo. Where he just won, by the way, the Zososso championship. That would be magical. I really hope that happens. I don't know if they'll give it to Tiger. Do you think they would? I think he's got to be on the list of top three.

I can't think of the other athletes. It might be up for contention, but he's got to be up there. It's also not going to be easy for him to make the team. There's only four people can make it. Yeah. Right. Well, I think right now he's just outside. Because you've got to think like Brooks Kebke, Justin Thomas, Dustin Johnson,

Zander Schaftley. How does the selection process go? Do you have any idea? It's literally just points. Okay. You just have to qualify as the top. top four. There's no like captain's pick. So I think it's going to be, I mean, he's right there.

Yeah. But I don't think he's a lot. He's got to have a good year, which, I mean, he's the best player in the world and of all time. So you would think that you would have a good year. But I want to paint that little visual for everybody. Jason says for Frankie, since he's a measuring guru, I would love to hear his answer on this. What is the exact diameter of a golf hole? Diameter goes inches, right? Just like diagonal. Yeah, it's across inches. No, but you can... Diameters distance.

Six inches. Oh, dude. You're an idiot. Well, you know, no need to be negative. I'm sorry. That was mean. By my fault. I'll react.

Four inches. You're, okay, your final answer? We're doing a little, um, who wants to be a millionaire? I watch a slumdog millionaire for the first time last night. Oh, it's so good. I've ever seen. Super good movie. Really good.

You've never seen it? No. Um, four inches. Should we go around? Trent? I was going to say three. Okay. Lurch?

Four and a half. I looked it up beforehand, so I know. It's 4.25 inches. All right. Six inches isn't that bad. Six. Seems outrageous. I know.

I know. So you proved my own point. I'm just saying. It's like I said a foot. No, you didn't. So half that. Yeah. I don't think that was that bad of a guess.

No. I think he was looking for you to be like, yeah, it's like a foot and a half. That would be insane. Yeah, but you fucking ruler? I would take your car and I would escort you out. I love he goes to a ruler. I think most people think six inches is outrageous. Yeah.

It is like it does feel like you got to a measurement when you say six inches that is like comparable to a ruler. Right? Like, oh, you've reached six inches. It's crazy. The other thing you said is diameter that's in inches. It's like that's that. But I would have said that too, though. And I mean, I'm not a relatively smart person.

I was just saying like when I do it. What's the diameter of the earth? I was saying when I do answer this next question, I can answer it in inches, correct? Yeah, I think that's pretty much all you said. Then that's fine. That's what I meant. I don't, six inches, it seemed like a really bad guess right away. I do wonder what I would have said if the question had come to me first.

That's what I have to wonder. It was nice that Frankie gave us all baseline. Yeah. And the room reacted like, boy, oh boy, this kid doesn't have a brain. When I, I will say this, when I went to Google it, I thought my own head, what's my guess? and I think I went with like 3.75 inches. Frankie, what's the radius? I'm sorry, what?

What's the radius of a golf hole? I'm glad that Frankie's getting these first. That's what I'll say. What's what you talking about, man? What's the radio? What's the fucking fight? What are you talking about? I don't have to separate these two.

The radius of the golf hole. So the radius? No, you can't Google it. What is the radius? Oh, it's a cross. Okay. Straight line from the center. So it's just half, it's half that, right?

yeah. So two. Hell, hell, yeah. A 1.8. Hell yeah, dude. You cracked that code like a motherfucker. I looked it up. I looked it up.

Yeah, you did. You did crack that code. I don't know, man. Code breaker. I don't know. You know, I got through all of school just knowing nothing. You know? Yeah.

Cheating nuns, tests, and, you know, doing the whole thing. I barely graduated high school. Yeah. I didn't pass with flying colors either. I just get through. Just get through it. I don't know what I'm actually learning. Survive in advance.

Dude, there's like, those math classes, it's just like, just let me get to the final number. I don't understand it, but I'll learn it to the point where just let me get to that last number and just I'll circle it and I'll just be on my way. I don't get,

I don't know what's happening. This is my final number. I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's happening. I just know I have to get to a number. And what you will say, okay, you can leave this room.

So you never have to come back. Let's just get there. Dude, I had a tutor from Matt that would like, it's my sister's friend Roxanne. and she would come there and like, she, yeah. You don't have to put on the head. You don't have to put on the red light.

Yeah, that's what it is. You don't have to put on the red light. Roxanne and your tutor. She would just look at me and be like, do you not, you don't get it fundamentally at all, like what we're trying to accomplish here. That's what I say to alerts when he puts. How we're trying to get to the final.

I said, no. Sometimes when I would look at the map that they were, telling me to solve, I want to be like, I'm not going to work at NASA. I'm not going to be working at NASA. So if you could just let me leave this room, I will never try that. I don't care. It's NASA. I'm not out of here.

I've often argued that certain teachers in certain classes just teach future teachers of that class. There's certain things that are so obscure and so ridiculous that the only person that needs to know that is another person that's going to teach that lesson. And I've said that once to a mad teacher, it got kicked out of the class. Like, dude, we were doing like, fucking what is that thing like sand or whatever it is like uh... No not it was like uh...

How about when they introduced letters in math? Like the a what's I like stands for it like represents a whole You're just like exactly what Frankie's saying there is no imaginable job in the world in the universe that I could ever hold ever That would require me to do this again outside of where I'm going to have to do it on the test in like a week That's the only time ever ever ever i just remember learning something so ridiculous and it was like Even the teacher was like, well, this is kind of a scare, but like we have to, you know, have creative thinking. And I'm like, the only person that's ever going to repeat this equation that you're making me stay up all night trying to learn is a future you. That's crazy.

That you're blowing my mind a little bit with that. You know what I mean? Yeah. But like people can make the argument that like, all right, you need to learn certain things and like certain ways of thinking because that will then like or else there will be no NASA people. It'll help with critical thinking. Critical thinking. There will be no people that do the harder math jobs, right? I mean, you need that, like analytics and all this stuff.

But like, fuck, man, there's certain things. They're just jokes. They make it up from year to year. You know what math teachers didn't see coming? Smartphones. Where I can just like, I can pretty much do whatever I want. Those calculators, those like TID3s. I got this thing in my pocket.

Boots. Boots. 8-0-08. Frankie, what's the diameter of an 18-inch pizza? What's going on? Why are you quizzing him? What is the diameter of an 18-inch pizza? Yeah.

Dude, do you really want to fight me? I really want to know. 18 inches. It's 18 inches. That's like just a circle. It's a circle. It's a circle. Yes.

That's like what weighs more. A ton of feathers or a ton of iron. Right. It's a great question. Right. It's the same. But it tricks some people. Dude, so this.

Here's the question that will fuck your, that will mentally fuck you. Bring it. You fuck. 5x is equal to 3x. Solve for X. I don't, I refuse. Okay, okay. So five X.

I'm protesting this question. What does that mean? So X can be anything. X can be anything. X is the variable, but X has to remain a constant. Right? It's got to be the same number on both sides. So five times something.

Five times something equals three times something. I'm... Shut up. We're telling you, Jake doesn't have a mic, but Jake is making noises. Hold on now. Zero. Great. Thank you.

That sometimes puts people into a tornado. I'll see you guys later. It's the smartest thing I'll ever say. Sometimes that question puts people in a pretzel and they can't get out of them. I refuse to answer. I am the smartest person in the world. Five times zero equals zero, three times zero equals zero. Exactly.

So I'm, Roxanne. If you put that on paper, some people start dividing by five and three and then they go. I'm so glad I'm done with school. School gave me so much anxiety. Math in particular. Oh, scary stuff. This putter website S7K, the promo on it is 15 minutes long, so I'm still watching

get the line up there. He's at 844. I just can't get over it, man. Look at this guy. Him addressing his putter right here. It's just a lot of false advertising. People are like, our little white line is going to shoot out of this thing because I'm going to need that as well.

I'm addressing the putter is so good. Wow. Okay. All right. That's it. We do have some more really good from the guy. but I'm going to save them for next week. How many seconds are in a year?

Oh, this is from the office. I might know this. No, it's a joke. The answer is 12 January 2nd, February 2nd. That's just a little semantics thing. And there's also another answer for that. How many actual seconds are here? 525,600 minutes.

More high school hockey games. Yeah. Rent. Rents. I was like, I'm a goalie. I got to get to all his zen likes. Indeed. I used to play the G-unit remix to victory before football games.

Oh, football people. There was one mute. Did you cry during that in the office? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was Michael's last episode. And what made me even more emotional now looking back is knowing that when you watch that episode of the office, it's Michael's last day in the office. He did not know that they were going to be singing that song.

So his reaction is true and real. And he starts to tear up. And he's like, what is happening right now? Like they start getting up and they start singing. And you can also tell it's like not perfect. Like the camera's kind of moving around because they just wanted to get it right one time. Come on. That's cool.

Raw reaction. I didn't know that. Yeah. Right. A little nugget of information there. 31,536,000 seconds. Shut the fuck up. Thank you, Jake.

Not this year. This is a leap year. I'll have to check your mouth on that, but potentially. Well, you got to subtract a few days. Right. A day. We can't, we don't have enough time to talk about leap years. Matt have you born a leap year?

I grew up with a girl who was born a leap year. We used to always, you know. She's like five? Correct. You got it all time. A little baby. I'm not. A little baby.

Oh, it's your birthday? Oh, it's your birthday little baby? She's like 37. Trying to feed her like Gerber, like mashed up carrots. And she's like, I'm, I'm 15 years old. Fuck you. Open wide. Here comes the airplane.

Here comes to airplane. She's like, I'm an adult and I'm going to sue you and call the police. All right. I'm going to go pick up my rapid pickup. On that note, hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.