Fore Play - Frankie Forced To Publicly Apologize

Episode Date: January 16, 2020

Frankie Borrelli is forced to publicly apologize to an anonymous Tiger Woods fan account, jacked Bryson fires shots at Brooks Koepka, new slow play policies are rolled out, and Jack Nicklaus makes more comments on Tiger Woods. We discuss this and much more with the full crew!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Second show of the week, we are back. If you missed the first show, Chris DeMarco was on. We talked for about 40 minutes or so. He, I mean, he had some great things to say. He's very well-spoken guy. He's very opinionated as well.

He talked about Patrick Reed. He called him basically an asshole at one point, but in a very classy and understandable way. He talked about Battle on Tiger Woods. So if you haven't listened, go back and listen to that. Lurch is back. Hello, Lurch. Hello, guys. Nice to be back.

Nice to see you. Mm-hmm. We make fun of Lurch a lot on the show for his size, and I wanted to say that he looks great today. I appreciate that. I think you look like you lost some weight, and you just look dressed up today a little bit. There's no way you lost weight. No, I didn't lose weight. I am doing a class tonight.

I did shave. Shaving was big. So United returned my stuff, and I eventually got back to shaving. Thank you, United for returning my stuff. How long? Five weeks? Yeah, a month late. Okay.

And I'm definitely not any skinnier. You look good in this outfit. Yeah, I think I'm down to about 256, something like that. Yeah. That's a tank. It's big. But, yeah, I had a sales meeting this morning, so I had to put on a button down and whatnot. And I am doing a class tonight at the gym, a class called Tabita.

I believe it's a high-intensity workout, and I need it because I haven't been in the gym since before Thanksgiving. I'm going to trivia and eating wings and beer tonight. Yeah, but you, like you're. body's like nothing. I know. It's actually gross. Lurch and I are the only people in this room whose bodies have the potential to get out of control. Yes.

No, I disagree. My body's getting out of control. It would take a lot. Riggs has the best body. Yeah. Frankie's, I almost would argue is the worst. I have the worst. Yeah.

Just because you have that little pathetic belly. Yes. Like you have nothing. Skinny legs. Skinny arms. Bellies. Snow chest. Like Trent and I have, I would say we're, this is going to come off the wrong

but like an overweight ex-athlet where you just like are just, you're overweight never athlete. Yes, overweight drummer. It depends on like what I, like how I,

like sometimes like if I'm wearing a golf outfit, I'll look okay. Like I can pull it off. You look your best at golf outfit. Yeah, I do, I think. And some of your,

your hoodie outfits. When you wear that blue islanders hoodie, you kind of pop with that thing. Yeah. What I'm saying is if you guys got, if Riggs or Frankie got overweight, it would be like two, 10. If Lurch and I do it, it can go up to $3.50.

There's no end. At the drop of a hat. There's no end. There is no end. I was, yeah, I've thought about, I also committed, I was saying I was going to go to the gym 10 times the month of January. I did that stupid thing that everybody does. Yeah. I haven't been in the gym yet.

Yeah. Doing it tonight. You got 15 days left. Got to go 10 times. I would say Frankie, Frankie is in the top half of what his body looks like in clothes and golf clothes. I think he'd be the last place naked. Yeah, big time. Can we ever discuss when you came back from Australia, like a sunburn and whatnot,

and then when you were going to the Bahamas with your gal, what she said when you're a clothes roll? I'm just thinking your extremities are all sunburned. Oh, yeah. Just the palest body with your shirt off. Used to that, man. Yeah, yeah. You guys have been going together for a long time.

She's used to look at Elmer's glue. Yeah, like your thighs have to be wider than the sun. Almost got to think that any girl into me is into like, like, dead people. You know? It's funny because it's true. Like, oh, man, that dead person turns me on, man. He looks like he's been a casket for about three months. Oh, there just hasn't been blood in those days for months.

Yeah, no, it's true. At least you know she's not going for anybody else. If she's into you, she can't even be. Oh, you have muscles and meat on your bones? What is that? Yikes. Blood's flowing through those veins. Gross.

Good fun. Yeah. So speaking of Frankie, we might as well just stay on Frankie. Frankie was forced to apologize publicly for slandering an anonymous Tiger Woods fan account, Tigerwood Legion, which I think is the same guy on Instagram who's Tiger Woods Spot, T.W. Spot. The only reason I know that is because he does do whoever this child is or however old this person is could be a young man. It's a way of knowing.

It's possible because it's anonymous. It does a great job of tracking down Tiger and it's become like the go-to outlet for sort of like behind-the-scenes sneaky Tiger Woods footage. This is the account that tweeted out the video that most people were retweeting. And then I saw him doing, this is one of the great really PR media back and force

that I've ever witnessed was this discussion that we had on the show Tuesday that led to Frankie canceling the Tiger Woods Legion account and then waking up like before I was even out of bed this guy was on a tweet storm about how he demanded an apology and Frankie and us really the whole four-play crew had potentially damaged his reputation I was quick to cancel him I quick I canceled Tiger Woods Legion after after one discussion here's what happened here's my side of it So on the 12th of January at 1130 a.m. I got a text from my buddy Andrew.

Now, everyone saw the video of Tiger Woods' son Charlie, and that went out like viral around like 11 o'clock or whatever. Like it was early that morning. And my buddy texted me, he goes, I can't believe I'm not playing golf right now. It was like that 65 degree day. And I'm like, I fucking know. It's a tragedy.

I'm just reading our messages now. And he goes, fucking unreal outside. I said, did you see Charlie Woods put on a stripe show today? I said, craziest shit I've ever seen. He responded, yes, unreal. He even shot even par this morning. And I wrote no fucking way. So he goes, yeah.

Ha, ha, ha. He came in second and sends me a screenshot of Tiger Woods Legion saying, this just in. Charlie Woods goes nuclear today and shoots even par finishing second in the 16-man field this morning. So I'm like, holy shit. So I bring that information to the podcast. And when we're talking about Charlie Woods, we talked about like if rigs that could beat him and all this things. And I'm like, well, I'm like, didn't the kids shoot like even par today and finish second amongst like all these other kids?

And I was told, no, he shot a 41. I think, and finish like ninth and nine other kids beat him. So I was like, okay, I guess I got wrong information. Tiger Woods Legion, you're canceled. So now that was a quick cancel. Yes. But like I should have used my brain. Number one, I think we all should have done a little more research on it.

Even though I probably shouldn't have because everyone's complaining about Charlie Woods' fucking privacy and stuff. Like, why should we know that much about Charlie Woods' fucking tournaments? Yes. Apparently he played two days. One day shot 41. Another day, he shot even par. It all came out when the video came out. whatever

I should have looked at it and the text message that Andrew sent me was quite literally a screenshot from a tournament website that says Charlie Wood shot 36 I should have used my brain

and been like well no I think he shot a 36 because the information is right here in front of my eyeballs I like acted like Tiger Woods Legion photoshopped

tournament bracket and like why would he do that right I mean that guy agreed sorry 100% agree We should have done more research

Or like maybe we shouldn't have It's a little creepy But you are the first one to jump and just I canceled him But yeah I canceled Because I was like yeah Because I also was wrong I thought I saw someone say he was nine years old

So it was like everything I was saying about Charlie Woods Happened to be wrong in this room I was like he's nine years old And you guys were like no he's 10 And I'm like he shot 36 He's like no he shot 41 I'm like well then I just don't know What I'm talking about

And Tiger Woods you're coming down with me Tiger Woods Legion You are now canceled So it turns out he was right And we didn't know there was a second day I didn't think it was that big of a deal It's a funny fucking little thing The guy's like a Twitter

Anonymous Legion of Tiger Woods Like he went nuts He even pinged me Because I have the least amount of followers Let's not say ping We're not in a fucking cubicle Oh I just came from my cubicle

Take yourself out of that world And into this world Because there's people that just like Freaked out They cringe when you said ping Yeah you triggered them Because like they get pinged all the time They just stood up

And dove out of the window And everyone in this room has worked very hard to never have to hear that lingo ever again. Fair enough. You know. Yeah, he'll only circle back to me because I have the least amount of followers. And he was like, tell Riggs, Trent, and Frankie, they need to figure this out and write the wrong. The best part. Okay.

I don't think you reached out to me at all, which is, you know, I'm a little insulted by that. The best part is how seriously he's taking it. And he tweeted at, or he DM'd Frankie. Bro, please tweet that you were wrong on the pod. I got a DM from Tiger Woods Legion and he goes bro please tweet that you were on the pod I DMed you on Insta I love your show but you were incorrect about what I posted on my account

I didn't even accept the DM I just took a screenshot it's still not accepted I haven't even given him The same satisfaction Of having an accepted DM by me It's still not read But I screenshot it and tweeted I said I was wrong on the pot So yeah I still gave him his apology But I also made him look like a fucking weirdos

that needs like this clarification which like dude at some point like what are you doing with this twitter account right like we've argued this all the time where people like want credit like you know how like like dable get into battles with people with like how come you're not crediting me and all this stuff like when like he's like you have 400 followers on a personal account like what are you doing with like what what do you mean you want credit what is that doing you're not like monetizing your twitter is tiger woods legion monet like is his is his like reputation at stake here because someone said something on a fucking podcast? Apparently he believes that it is because he said,

I will respond when my credibility as a page can be impacted for being canceled and fake news. I love Foreplay. It doesn't take much to apologize. So far nothing. This was, of course, before learning about it. So far nothing. And he had DM me as well. The DM to me was two days of attorneys.

Let Frankie know to not accuse me before he in fact knows the facts, L.O. I'm the one that brought up his tweet in the first place So he should be happy that we're even talking about the guy And I would say nobody listening to this podcast Listening who has been listening Takes anything Frankie says that seriously No offense to you but if you like And especially in that context where it's like

I'm canceling that that Twitter account What does that really even mean? If anyone listened to it they could clearly tell that like I was 0 for 3 On like Tiger Woods' sons information And I was like well then I don't know anything You're canceled You're coming down with me Like I didn't really

read a book on Charlie Woods. I read your tweets. I read them out loud. I was told that like maybe that wasn't correct and I'm like, you're done, you're gone, see ya, whatever. Now I'm saying you're back. Back to what? I don't know. Just your Twitter existence. Bottom line, you're back. You apologize. I apologize. Publicly you apologized.

Yeah, some people said I bent the knee to Tiger Woods Legion. I don't know what the fuck that means. I love it. Whatever. There's good chirps all around. That's a good kid or guy or whatever. He does good work. the guy. He does great whatever. He finds weird pictures of Tiger. I don't know how he gets this stuff. Now, I was going to pose this question. Do you think that we could just dry up his well if we wanted to? No. I don't think we could. You don't think so? You don't think we could say, hey, we're becoming the go-to what Tiger Woods Legion used to be.

Any possible, whoever you are out there, wherever in the world you are, if you're at a fucking Maddenless Tigers club, if you stalked Charlie Woods when he's, when he's, when he's, you're in. he's through the bushes when he's teeing off. Wherever you are that you get videos and footage of Tiger Woods, send it to us. Do you think we could dry up as well? I think the answer may have just right there. I think the answer is no, but Tiger Woods Legion definitely thinks the answer is yes. So he's threatened. Yeah.

Which we are. We're obviously a huge pro-Tiger people and like stuff that happens to the tiger. We hear about it instantly. Like Frankie could put him his no business out of business. I don't think I have it in me to like. Just like. We'll hire an intern to do it. Like, I don't know if I even have that passion to post pictures of Tiger walking into Starbucks.

This guy's on another level. It's nice that he exists for that reason that we can go there. He must have some crazy algorithm that just feeds him all these. There's no algorithm. No, people send him to him to him. Oh, he's just, he's scouring all his DMs, all his emails. People send him everything. I like that Tiger Woods Legion exists.

Me too, right? Because you know the Boston wouldn't love it. And like, we don't have to be associated with it, but we get to look at it. It's a bit of a proxy. Dude, I saw Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods Legion, he was even doing the full disclosure breakdown of how the Charlie Woods video got out of how he had posted it. What happened was a follower of his. He talks about like their fucking disciples of Tiger Woods Legion.

One of his followers found the video, took the video, sent it to him, but didn't want any, you know, didn't want to put it up on his own account. So sent it to Tiger Woods Legion. Tiger Woods Legion put it up. He does like these long dissertations on his process here, his journalistic integrity as Tiger Woods anonymous Panica. Let me ask you this. What's stopping us from just claiming that we're Tiger Woods Legion? Literally nothing. Nothing.

Like maybe we concocted this whole plan going to Frankie to make it seem like we weren't the same entity. Could be us. I'm not trying to say the guy should be like, I'm not the foreplay guys, but people could, it couldn't hurt us for people to think that we have created like a Tiger. Oh, like that. We're like that. We are Tiger Woods Legion. Yeah. There you go.

Prove that we're not. Prove that we're not. You can't? We are Tiger Woods Legion. We created it because we didn't want to be forward facing and putting out pictures of Tiger and tweeting out videos of his son at the driving range. But we wanted to do it because, you know, people do send us Tiger Woods stuff all the time.

We're Tiger Woods. The real meat and potatoes in this story here is not about Tiger Woods Legion. It's about that Charlie Woodshot 36. It is. Which is a great score. Great score. Fantastic. He's fucking terrible.

I don't know how far he's hitting the ball. But I mean, I know he's in it pretty straight with that action I saw. I was actually at a hockey game last night with a guy. Oh, my buddy Matt from Cherry Valley, who sent this all gifts except for Lurch. Because they don't make sure it's that big. They don't make sure it's that big. And it was, yeah. Cover a pool with it.

You know, called a tarp. I don't know why I'm allowed to take shots. Like, I shouldn't be allowed to because I'm basically the same size as you. But you know what? Maybe you'll wait until after the winter when they take the tarp off the pool and then they'll be able to make a shirt out of that for you. Thanks, Frankie. But, yeah, we were there.

He's obviously a golf instructor at Cherry Valley, and he does, like, he has a little league with all these kids, and one of his, like, his kids came up to us during the game, and he's, like, he's that cool coach that I feel like everyone loves, like, the kid came up to him, big smile on his face, like, coaches at a hockey game, and he was like, this kid's nine years old, and he's just a stick. Like, he's like, you have to see the talent in some of these young kids. They're just so good. They don't hit the ball more than, like, 140, 150 yards.

But their short game, the touch, their hands are just like, they're going, like, that is the future of golf right there. It's like these little kids that are just piping the ball nine and nine years old. What does that mean? We should do like a four play rider cup against like that eight, whatever that perfect age number is where they like could beat us. As soon as they think it's like, I think it's like, yeah, I think the best player. I think the best, that's too old. You think talking like it might be nine or ten years old. You think the best 10-year-old in the world could absolutely smoke us?

No problem. From the same T's, same T's. Same T's. Six-four hundred yards. 10-year-old? Yeah, I mean, I would say yes. I think 100%. Yeah.

The best player in the world at 10? Yes, I think he stripes the ball like 210, 220. Can we do? And then it just lights out from now and out. We need a fun. Best, the top four 10-year-olds in the world against four-play. Are we allowed to do that? It feels like.

Track down a bunch of 10-year-olds for us. If they have... Hey, Tiger Woods, five. Go fucking find us some 10-year-old golfers. Yeah. The most athletic 10-year-olds... I don't even want to continue that. I don't even want to...

I think people get it, but I think they kill us. I think they would, too. So, hold on, what grade is a 10-year-old? That's what I'm trying to compare it to. What grade is a 10-year-old? Third, fourth? No. If anybody's got an answer right away, that's...

No, you're like 5th, 6th grade, right? Because then you... You're 13 and 14 when you're a freshman in high school. So you're 3 or 4 years before that. That's ninth grade. You're around sixth grade, fifth grade, something like that. Okay. Fifth grade.

Yeah, like your borderline entering middle school, and you could dust the four-play team. I don't think so. Dude, yes. A fifth grader? Yeah, because six-graders play on high school teams. Like on my high school golf team, there was like a seventh grader on it. The kid was like a prodigy. What's fine with that number?

It might be 11 years old. Might be 12 years old. Whatever it is, we find the best ones. They won't come and kill us. Stop looking to me like that, Trent. When I say these numbers. Also, I got to say. Tiger Woods Legion is so committed to the game.

His bio on Twitter says, next, Farmer's Insurance Open January 23rd through 26, Tori Pound, Round 1, T-Time, TBD. He's like, he's ready to go. Oh, yeah. Yeah. The next appearance is literally in his bio. He's like... Also says we track. You think there's a team?

It's like a Dick Zucker thing where people do shifts. Maybe he means that, like, everyone that sends him in is part of the Tiger Woods Legion. Yeah, you're part of the... Yeah, right. I think you're right. I forgot it was a legion. It was deeper than you thought. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer.

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Kepka, he went up to Brooke Kepka's caddy, when Kepka's catty, or when Kepka wasn't around and said, if your guy, Brooks has something to say, you can say it to my face. Well, Kepka then did just say something to his face. And it turned into a big thing. It looked like they were going to go to blows. Bryson, on, I guess, a Fortnite stream from the Middle East, was caught saying today. This video went out. We're recording on Wednesday, and we'll play the clip.

I don't know if his genetics even make him look good, to be honest. I mean, the body issue. who didn't have any abs. I can tell you that. I got some abs. I don't know if that's against regulation here on Twitch, but I would. But I don't think I can. I have a terrible memory.

When did the whole Brooks v. Bryson, what's the timeline on it? Because what I'm trying to piece together is do he specifically get bulked up to try to get bigger than Brooks Keppka? He's been saying it's all about swing speed, about hitting the ball further. But we might be able to trace this all the way back to where he wants to be the jacked guy over Brooks Kepka. Definitely because if you look at some of the quotes that I pulled from that incident back in the day, it was basically they allowed it to be settled when they were on like a radio show together or some bullshit.

And Bryson said, let's be honest, we all know who would win that fight and it's not me. Let me tell you right now he'd kick my ass. And Brooks Kepka laughing said he's got that right. Bryson very well might have taken that as like he'd kick my ass now, but I'll be back. and I'm going to be bigger. And then when people chirped me about slow play, I could beat them up. I think that's the reason.

I think it's part of it for sure. I'm saying that's most of the reason. He is a house now. He's so big. He didn't like people saying just immediately, and maybe we did too, when people were like who would want to fight between Brooks and Bryson,

people just being like Brooks. No doubt about it. He probably scrolled through hundreds of tweets of everybody being like Brooks Kevka would beat the shit out of Bryson. I think we might have said it'd be closer to anything because when we first saw him at the Zoson, Zurich, he is built, he just, his frame is that of like a linebacker. Pre-workout obsessed craze that he's been on, he, when we first saw him, he's big, broad

shoulder, he's significantly bigger than you think, and that was before he went nuts with the gym. It'd just be very funny and interesting and very Bryson, uh, Bryson like to get jacked so he could, you know, people wouldn't be so quickly to be like Brooks Keppka would beat the shit out of Bryson DeShambo. He's also got to get rid of like the nerd thing too, you know how sometimes. When you're a nerd, you don't get rid of the nerd. And there's nothing.

There's nothing nerdier than being like, I'm going to beat up the bully. I'm going to get super jacked. And that's how I'm going to beat him. And then telling everybody through Fortnite, there's just that circle. And while using the word genetics. It's like what? We love Bryce on the show, and this makes me love him even more. That whole clip is very, very Bryson in this whole situation that I now think he got Jacked because he was mad

that people said Brooks could beat him up. It's all very Bryson, and I love him for it. Bryson's huge about his reputation and his brand and, like, how people perceive him and stuff. So I think that being the most jacked big guy on tour means a lot to him. I think that it also, here's the other thing about Bryson is when he has something, he's one of the guys, like, when he has something in his brain, he can't stop it. Like I'm like that with other shit, where I'm like. Yeah, you can't not say it.

Dude, like that. Or even like, I don't know, like you think for a second, like, oh, it'd be cool. Oh, the new NBA video game came out, and then you're thinking about it. And like, you can't end the night unless you go by it. Like, that's how I always was, like, when I was growing up. Like, I can't, I can't not do it until I get it right now. I feel like Bryson has that, but it's times a hundreds where he's like, oh, my, my wrists aren't strong enough to hold this swing speed. I think he gets that in his brain and physically, mentally cannot stop until he is perfect.

Yep. And if I have a blessing and a curse for me. And if I had thought of this, if we had thought of this theory before, like that this is the reason why Bryson Jack would have been like, well, now the only thing next is him chirping Brooks's physique and saying he is lacking something that Bryson has. And boom, now we got this Fortnite clip where he's like, well, he doesn't have abs. And then I'm pretty sure at the end of the clip, Bryson is saying, I can't show off my apps because of the Twitch regulations, unless I read into that too much. Yeah, he did. He was like, I can't show, we can't show right now because I don't know what it's like Twitch regulations.

I think he was going to, it would have been great if you'd just been like, check out these bad boys. And it would look like Derek from stepbrothers. Also, he's not chirping his like biceps or something like that. He's strictly chirping his abs, which is just losing. Like he went through in detail, observed the body issue of Brooks Kepka and took away from it like, doesn't have abs. I'm going to get some fucking abs. He had to have investigated. I did a little research before the podcast and I looked up Brooks Kepka's body issue pictures.

And you will see that. And I think just doing research. Brooks Kepka would admit to this now. I'm pretty sure he has. he stopped lifting for a while. So in the ESPN body issue pictures, he looks smaller than the biggest version of Brooks Kebka that everyone put pictures in their head.

So I am sure Bryson looked at those and was like, here's an opening for me to say what this guy's physique is lacking that I now have. Are you looking at the pictures right now? Yep. Well, there's the one. I got this one.

What else do I got? He's got a bruise on his right here. Click on that one. That's the one I bet he looked at and was like, Bryson was like, I got this guy. Yeah, this isn't the best picture I'm sure you could ever take of Brooks Kepka,

but then, I mean, when you do zoom in, I mean, he's still pretty fucking jacked. But, yeah, he doesn't, it's not like he looks super tone or anything like that. He's got the little golfer, the farmer's tan all that going on, which is nice, your golfer, that's what you have. Tiny your pectoral muscles than I would think. Correct.

Going into it. He wasn't that big at FSU, though. But there was a time. He's a pretty lean guy. There was a time in between where he is now and the way. Look what he looks like in a guy. Yeah, now he's mass. He's got a little bit of tiger in him.

Like, you put him in golf, Nike golf gear. And he turns into the Incredible Hulk. Yeah. Turns into Superman. And there was a- Clark Kent, Superman. There was a stretch there where he had pythons. And like he said, he kind of stopped going to the gym.

But there was a stretch there where he was as big as he looks. I'm fascinated to hear how Brooks Kepka is going to respond because he is not won nowadays, ever since he started winning majors and elevated himself to a level where he believes that he's able to have a voice. He is not going to hold back when he responds, which he will. people were going to ask him about it. So I'm curious to see what Brooks kept is going to say. He might just hit the gym. Bryson might hit the gym and they're going to look like Sosa and McGuire in 1998.

Just like both of them just huge. Hobbs or Shaw. Just barely even able to like grab the club, but they're just like, I'm more jacked than you. They both fall off outside the top of 100, but they're just. And then they just become professional bodybuilders, and that's like the rivalry that builds up bodybuilding. And it becomes one of the biggest sports in America. With an epic backstory. That sounds like a Will Ferrell movie.

it's very interesting this whole thing with bryson and brooks brooks brooks either fireback or he'll be like i don't care or win the next tournament just be like oh yeah yeah i'll say something about like majors and wins or something along those lines like he's done with like with rory when he's like he's good at taking like subtle but direct hit shots subtle but like look at all these trophies behind me yes type of type of hits like when he said that about rory we're like well i don't really considered a rivalry because like he hasn't won like a major since I started winning it. Like that was an absolute missile.

He fired at Rory, but it kind of came off like, oh, yeah, I didn't it. It's like you're kind of saying one thing, but you're kind of saying another thing too. That's how all of Brooks kept. And he'll be like, oh, I only work out my arms now because it's all I used to lift up trophies. That might do it. You might, you might. You don't need abs to lift up a U.S. Open trophy. Like, you might be on to something there.

You might have just, he, he, I mean, that quote works. I think he's going down that road, huh? I would love if he did. Not, like, as an anti-Bricon thing, but just the drama. It's good for headlines. Oh, yeah. We're in the headline business. That's what we do.

Oh, man, I hope he says that. Slow play. New slow play policy. That has nothing to do with Bryce Nees-Shamebo. I'm just, no, it's just the next topic on the rundown. That's just what's, that's just what there's going on in the golf world. Here, new slow play policy revealed by the PGA tour, going to go into effect the week after the Masters at the RBC.

see heritage. Essentially, they're going to do the list thing. We talked about the list, but they have shot link, they have official data that they're going to acquire now, that they're going to keep based on your last 10 tournaments and based on, quote, egregiously slow play. This is subject to a 60 second shot clock at all times, and if you're on the list in a given week of a tournament. So essentially what's going to happen is they're going to monitor how long it takes each player to hit each shot. They start it based on certain, you know, parameters on when you get to your ball, if you're hitting first, second, or third, all these different things.

If anyone ever takes more than two minutes to hit a shot without a good reason for doing so, you are given an excessive shot time. The biggest change is going to be that if you will get penalized if you have two bad times in a tournament, not just a single round. It used to be you'd only get penalized if you had two bad shots, or I'm sorry, two bad times in a single round, which would almost never happen. And there's really, based on the old rules, there has been where they would give you stroke play penalty for taking too long.

There has been one penalty given since 1995. That's really the biggest issue. They just, they're not going to, they want enforcing it. Yeah, exactly. Now they're going to do this list. We talked in excruciating detail about the list a couple of months ago when it came out that this might go this direction. The issue with the list was that they weren't going to make it public.

still think they're not going to make it public, which is crazy town. The list has to be made public so that you shame everyone. Unless I missed that detail where they've changed that, they're going to keep it internal, the list, which again, kind of defeats the purpose because then they can still just not enforce it if they want to, right? Yeah, there's no checks and balances on like if they're actually, you know, turning the screws on people on the list because we can't see the list. Correct. However, you know, I talked about it with Chris DeMarco.

For quite a while, he had some good ideas. Actually, one thing I didn't know was that they, he was talking about how they group players based on like certain qualifying. And basically people that got in for like sponsors exemptions and kind of like last second to make qualifying will be put in the same group. And then they'll be put at like the end of each wave. So like they'll go, if they're in the morning wave on Thursday, they'll be like at the end of the morning wave. And if they're in the afternoon wave on Friday, they'll be at the end. He was saying he's like, why don't you take the slowest fucking players on tour, make them play with. with each other and put them in the last four or five groups of each wave.

So they just, the slow guys just go off after everyone else. And if they take all fucking day, they don't affect the guys that play fast. It's a pretty damn good idea. It was an amazing idea. It's like, wait, you tell me this is a real thing.

Just put the fastest players up front. Yeah. You know, if you're faster, you just earn a spot up. Right. It's like NASCAR qualifying. Exactly. Right. I love it.

Fuck yeah. Your eyes and head and brain and everything looks like just solid ghost. I mean, it's a great idea. It is. It just makes sense. It just makes sense. It's quite logical. This was Chris DeMarco.

I love it. Very smart guy. I can't find a, like, an issue with it. What do you mean? Like, what's wrong with that idea? Yeah, play faster. Why are you asking me what do I mean? Well, there's got to be something wrong with it.

That's why they don't do it. Well, then you'd be publicly shaming the people in the back. So that observe list would be public. So then you'd know, so they'd have to. be transparent about that. What about like the guys who want, what if one guy's fast, one guy's slow and they're shooting the same score? What are you talking about?

You got to, oh, you mean going into the weekend? Well, the weekend it's always going to be. But they're saying when you can control it, it's there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But you're right. Like, once they start doing scoring, pairing is based on scoring, it's out of your control. Right.

It'd be funny if they did it throughout the whole weekend and Bryson was winning a tournament, just taking a sweet-ass time and everyone's just like, there's like a lot of drama that already happened four hours ago and he's still on like the second whole or if he's in last place but he gets to go last on Saturday Sunday so he's like 10 over bar and he's in the final group right right right they can't get better yeah it would actually work as well because if you did it Thursday Friday and where the guys are paired up like NASCAR qualifying in terms of speed and players see the fast players see how great that is and then during the weekend they get into a mixed bag with a lot of the slower players

they would probably be more vocal about like look how great it works when everyone plays fast. Why are you guys not playing faster? Maybe the problem would be weather because like Thursday, Friday, because they usually flip-flop them. So if you play in the morning, Thursday, and Friday, you might have an advantage when they go play the open. Right? Because it might be calmer in the morning

than it is in the afternoon. But they're saying you still do the waves. So if you're in the morning wave on Thursday, you're still in the afternoon wave on Friday. You're just at the end of the afternoon way. Yeah. I'm with you. Yeah. I like it. Me too.

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They're in Abu Dhabi this week and then Saudi Arabia. Arabia is coming up soon. If you recall, last year, Sergio Garcia basically got kicked out of the country for purposely scuffing up. I think it was six different greens last year. The quote this year is he wants to show the true Sergio.

No, you don't. The true Sergio is him scuffing up greens. Correct. You want to hide all 18 greens to be ruined. You are going to now show us a fake Sergio and say that it's the true Sergio when we already saw the true Sergio a year ago. True Sergio should be in quotes. Yeah.

Be a great shirt. That is, that line is the exact opposite of what he wants to do. That might be the biggest lie I ever told in the history of golf. He wants to show the, you have to hide that man. You have to put that man, tuck him into your suitcase, zip that thing up and don't let him out or they will fucking put you in Saudi jail forever. The true Sergio is an international disaster. Spain, Saudi relations will never recover if the true Sergio was allowed into that country.

Keep him. He had the bunker incident, too. This is all in the same tournament last year, folks. Remember when he wiped? He swung forward back. He did a fucking weed whack on the bunker after he hit a bunker shot. It was like he was redesigning the bunker the way he was hit. Yeah.

Trying to put a new lip in. Yeah. So anybody saying, if anybody ever says you, I'm going to show you my true self, you're about to see a very fake version of them. And that's what Sergio. Like you said, if you chose himself, though, he's going to be in some trouble. Kicked out of the door. Sergio's 40-something years old. He's been out on tour for like 20-plus years.

We've seen the true Sergio. You can't, it's not like that real true great, well-mannered, well-tempered, Sergio has been just inside the whole time. And now he's about to come out. Like, no, no, what we've seen is you're a crazy person. Just like John Rom, whatever's in the water over there in Spain, whatever. You guys are fucking lunatics. Like, imagine John Rom having a quote come out be like, I'm disappointed in myself. the way I've handled myself on the course

all these years, you are now going to see the true John Rom out there on the golf course. We would just be like, no, you're going to be a fake version of you, who is going to collapse at some point and you're just going to become the guy who goes crazy because that's who you really are. Sevi wasn't this way, right?

Like, I can't remember, but was he? Sevi was a sweetheart. I mean, he was very animated, but he was a sweetheart. That's what I kind of go with, but he's kind of their folk hero. Like, I'm surprised that they're a little bit this way. These two Spaniards? Yeah. Yeah, if John Rob said, I'm going to now show you the true John Rom on the car, you put like, fucking body armor on it.

You're like, all right, buddy. I'm like ready to go because that guy's a crazy person. So, Sergio, I did see he got decued last year, of course. He was able to keep his $640,000 appearance fee last year despite being decued. This year he has reportedly waived his appearance fee. I imagine. What a guy. That was $640,000 with a damage, and now I'm going to waive it.

I imagine that some. Saudi Arabia was like, yeah, no, you're coming. And you are not giving you a dime. You get a letter from Saudi Arabia that says, you must show up. There's no fee. And you're like, okay, anonymous. That's not one you just, that's not one you can turn down. No.

It's just not. When the Saudi, like, crown prince sends you a letter, you show up. You'll be there. It's in your best interest to show up, Sergio. And be not the real Sergio. You be the fake Sergio. Oh, yeah. Imagine like, yeah, imagine if he does this again, we might never see Sergio

Garcia I'll chop his hands off I think Yeah Is that it? You know I went out So when I was in Dubai I've told the story about that trip I was in Dubai,

I've told the story about that trip I was in Dubai for a couple And I get that there's a different countries But you're in the Middle East We went to swim in in the Persian Gulf And we left our stuff on the beach And I wouldn't go like more than 10 feet into the water Because I was like all our passport And all that stuff's there

What if it gets stolen? Really worried I didn't know And we find out later that night We were at the bar talk over there like No no this is like the least Crime-ridden place in the world rolled along with like Singapore because I was like oh why and like no if you steal something they cut your hand off yeah the the punishments are detrimental that was like when that kid like keyed his

car whatever and then they got he got whipped like like 25 times or something on national TV that's like you can't it's not great it's effective but it's not great it works man they looked at me when I said I was worried my stuff was getting stolen they just they were fucking belly laughing yeah you could be like passport passport I got up my passports in there People are like, we're not touching the fucking. No, shit. You can imagine if you get like a speeding ticket and you got whipped? No, man.

Nobody would speed. Speed would be done. It's true. Is it being, Frankie? Well, I know, I mean, this is just like a dictatorship. I mean, that's. Like, we say, you think that works? You think that works?

You think that works? There is no crime over us. I'll say the cabin Tasmania said that, like, there's no crime around there because everybody knows each other. Well, that's a lot different than if you speed to get whipped to the fucking false. I'm just saying. different ways to kind of monitor the situation. And we were saying...

I want to be the voice on foreplay that says, I don't believe that that is the way to go about things. I don't think... I'm with you on that. I don't think that that works. I know it works. I say it definitely works, but... I don't want it.

It's a deterrent. It's a severe deterrent. Is it humane? No. It's governing with fear. Correct. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it works.

Absolutely works. You should have seen the fear in these people's eyes when they told me that. If we're saying... Shame works with, you know, you publicly put out the list. I'd say shame is number two to getting whipped and cutting hands off. They just work, but, you know, it's not right. It's not great. I mean, there's a stupid example, but you don't tip 20%, you get your hands cut off.

That's not. That's not. No, I know. It's not breaking a rule. I said it was a bad example to start it out. But, like, you cause something that's wrong, create anything that's wrong in your head and then say your hand gets cut off. If you do that, you're not going to do that.

Like Frankie trespasses, okay? And he goes trespasses onto a golf course, hits a bunch of golf balls onto a green, and then leaves him straight. They find out they cut his legs off so that he can't. Cut one leg off. Yes. How are you going to trespass now? How are you going to hop over that fence now? You can hobble around.

You mean you wouldn't do it again. It would work. Would you be trespassing if that was, exactly? It would work. It wouldn't be right if they cut your leg off for that little Frankie trying to hit work on your wedge game. I was now blue. I used to go there. Sneak on.

I don't know how we got here. Oh, Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia. Saudi. Yeah. They're saying you're going to be there. It would be in your best interest to arrive. It's an effective deterrent, but it creates a stressful environment.

Yeah, you, Sergio Garcia, you will be here and you will not be receiving a appearance fee. Thank you very much. And he shows up. Scott Van Pelt called Tiger Woods on a podcast. The first time that happened was part of my take. He was on PMT. They said that was when they had their running bit going or it was like call the most famous person in your phone right now. He called Tiger.

Tiger picked up. didn't seem overly happy about the situation. He actually referenced that in this one again. I saw the clip. Our guy, Tiger Wins Legion, had it all over the place. He had all the context out there. He's very good at what he does. Good job by us getting that up so fast.

Tiger's... I forgot that we were doing that. I like that. I love that angle. Yeah, that was... He's not going to like it, which I feel bad about, but... Watch him tweet out just a selfie of himself or herself. That's what I feel.

He would never. I feel like I don't want to force him into that situation, which is the part of me that feels bad, but, you know, he's an anonymous, he's an anonymous account. The main takeaway from this quick little blurb was that SVP calls Tiger, and Tiger says, look, you know, you kind of called me and blindsided me once in a podcast, and I'm working on my short game right now, so I can't talk,

which, if you're Tiger Woods fan, do it, that's all you can ask for. Yeah, that is incredible. I'm too busy. I'm also kind of cool that I remember is the first time. Yeah, it was. I mean, I guess I don't know how often he gets random phone calls from Scott Van Pelt. Right.

But his brain, he doesn't forget. shit no working on a short game too busy sorry scott i got to go um his schedule like i did mention it's also in uh tiger woods legion so we did a good job updating the biography there but uh he'll begin his season next week at tory pines he's won eight times professionally there he's won the farmer's insurance i think seven and then he won the u.s open in 2008 there uh with a broken leg and a torn ACL pretty good uh he'll play at torrey pines then he'll play at riviera then he'll play in mexico then He'll play Bay Hill, then Sawgrass, then the match play, and then the Masters. That's my guess.

Some folks think he might add, like the Honda Classic, but then he would have to take out something, because I don't think he's going to play that many weeks in a row. So that's when you can pretty much expect Tiger. That would be seven tournaments if you include the Masters. So six between now and Masters, seven. What do we think about this from our Twitter account, Tiger Woods Legion, that Phil Mickelson, 46 minutes ago, announced that he's moving to Jupiter, Florida. Really?

Telling you, man. That guy's not done. We've got a couple more tricks up his sleeve We tweeted that out Yeah From at TW did it Which one of us I'm nuts

I'll be honest I'm He's got more tricks up his sleeve Man he's moving right next door There's also a lot to be said about taxes In that incident Phil's always He's got in some trouble

Coming out with like money And you go to Florida there ain't no state of contact There's many places to move He's moving literally in Tiger Woods his backyard. It's a strange timing. He's moving to the King's Palace. What does it exactly say?

What does the tweet say? Just in. And we put a little like an alarm sign next to every tweet, which is you can't overuse the alarm sign. Yeah, we'll chill on that. Yeah, we'll talk about that internally. Just in. Phil Mickelson announces at a presser that he's moving to Jupiter Island, Florida,

in the next year. He's already closed in on a lot in Jupiter, and he will be moving following his son's completion of high school. That's interesting. It is. He wants to be closer to the competition. He wants that edge. He wants that fire reignited.

He wants when Tiger goes on a lovely stroll in his home golf course, Phil wants to be there. I'm telling you, Phil's not done. JT's in that area. He just wants to be in the mix. He knows that these guys are all playing together and they're messing around. Meanwhile, Phil's been where? California. He's out fasting in California.

You do got to feel a little bit on an island out there in California. Now he's in an island, Jupiter Island. Right. I strange he's how old is he is 40 he's going to be 50 I think at the U.S. open this year he's got guys like you saying he's never going to win again I do I was saying that I don't think you will

I think he'll win again I said I think this year he's going to have a much better year I think he's going to win a tournament and be in the mix in a couple of them I think he'll win a tournament this year that video of him on the range with the track man where he posted his ball speed and all that when he's talking about hitting bombs he was hitting bombs bombs

like oh my god landing 300 plus Oh my God When you're that old I'm telling you bro Phil Mickelson I'd love if he bought the house Right next to the time Phil Mickelson

We said it a million times Built the same house Just happened to grow up At the same time as the Terminator But he would have been Best of all time maybe He got screwed It's just crazy

Yeah it's like It's great during the Jordan era You can't just You can't just write a guy like that off Because he had a couple of bad Years I can and I will He also won last year

He played horrible the second half of the year, but he won it pebble last year. He's going to stick something right up your arse, Trent. I mean, this moving to Chubber of Florida thing, that might, it doesn't change my opinion, but it definitely makes me. You don't feel good about that. No, I don't feel good about that. No, you don't want film moving out to fucking Hawaii, sailing off into the sunset like Jack Nicholas.

Also, good luck to everyone that lives there and like, like, J.T. Tiger and all these guys that like to play, and you have a big gambler coming in, and your wallets are about to get thin because this guy on a random Tuesday afternoon. Fit or full. I mean, either way. But it's, there's going to be a lot of moving money in Jupiter. We're going to get some tax people down there.

Now, not in Florida. I don't think there are any. Speaking of Jack, Nicholas, I saw people were tagging us in some jack. I don't want to go too into it. What did he say? He said something. He said that the equipment, he thinks, has made golf really easy for Tiger Woods. I mean, just.

I mean, this fucking. guy. I'm not, we're not going to. No, no, but yeah, we get your eye on you, Jack. We know what you're doing. Jack. Everybody else out in the media won't say it. Everybody will be like, oh, he's Jack. He's great. Jack being Jack. That's just, we love Jack.

We fucking. Go get back in your fucking canoe and go fucking float out there and cast a couple lines, Jack. Let Tiger handle the majors. You'll be coming back in. Come scurrying in on the Sunday. Next. Next. You just keep your eye around that point for when Barbara comes fucking scurrying out there in her boat.

Oh, no. I was just hoping to fish for some. bonefish and now I've got to go watch these. Honey, we got a code red. Jack. Code red. Jack. He's winning again.

Get ready, Jack. Number 16's coming. I may get a little static about that because the average golfer actually likes the equipment today and I understand that. The equipment we played was far more challenging and rewarded us more for hard work than the equipment of today. If that was you, wouldn't you just get sick of yourself? Damn, that was dark.

Simply put, yeah, whoa. Simply put, Nicholas thinks modern pros use equipment that's, quote, easier to play with as a result. They don't need to learn as a full repertoire of shots as players from the previous era. It's like, the old bag. It's like, the game's gotten longer and more difficult also to, you know, allow these, like, not have, not let them have that much of an advantage, right? These guys are hitting from over 7,000 yards now.

The greens, the, the type of technology that they have to let these. greens turn into marble it's like they didn't you could almost argue that the technology of the game has increased the parity from one to a hundred because you don't maybe have to be as skillful so a guy without the most skillful shot can still compete at the various highest level and that's what tigieg's been saying that forever yeah that like and and if you i think that uh brandle was busted out these stats he's like if you look at the top 20 or 25 people on tour scoring average and all that it's pretty similar to what it was during jack's era the difference is if you look from like 25 to 125.

The drop-off used to be massive, and now that's, like, almost the same. So pretty much anybody who's in the top 125 because equipment has kind of brought everyone closer together, has a way higher chance to be able to go out there and compete and win than they used to be able to. So really, that's the exact opposite, Jack of what? Try to explain that Jack, he already fell asleep in his chair. Jack's fucking... Oh, what?

What's going on? Is Jack with us? All right. Oh, my God. You're with us. You're with us. A little. I said he fell asleep in his armchair.

A midday nap is fine. You with us? Hey, Jack, you with us? That's where it goes to really where we started this show in Cats. That's a little messed up. Yeah, come on. Frankie's there to always bring things in that area. It's just jokes, you know.

Jeff Shacklefer gets admitted into the home and he walks in the room and Jack's just sitting there staring at a wall. Jack? They say that golf is 90% mental, which means that even the smallest issues can have a big impact on your scorecard. Because of that, I'm getting good at sleep. The most fucked up part, we all saw in our head that exact scenario.

We pictured it. Yeah. Well, you sounded like a nurse, too. You said it. Jack, you still with us? Breaking and all white. Just, you still with us? Huh?

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great. I was using the freeze stuff last night. I put some of it on lurches on. Yeah, you rubbed on me. He was all pumped up about it. He actually asked me, like, am I going to be street legal with this stuff? And I said, yes, totally fine. You'll be good to make it even easier to try CBDPM or any of CBDMD's other high quality products. They're offering our listeners 25% off. 25% off. 25% off. That's huge. On your next order, when you use the code for play at checkout. One word, F-O-R-E-P-L-A-Y at checkout. You're going to get 25% off at CBD-D. promo code for play 25% off your purchase of premium CBD oil products from CBD MD. Patrick Reed sent Brandl Schambly a cease and assist letter for saying he cheated. Yes. Great stuff. This is an interesting one because that was a face-off between two of the most hated people in the game of golf. Maybe the top two. You'd be hard pressed to find people who hate someone more than Brandel-Champbelly and Patrick Reed.

It's really a war of the most disliked, which I, which I, which I, appreciate it. Yeah, it's maybe the most polarizing guys in all of golf. One of them sending the other a cease and assist because the one cheated is really for guys like us about as good as it gets in the world of golf. Now, I do think some people believe this is bad for golf. This is a bad look for golf. And I can understand that if you're, but this, this is in no way turning eyeballs off of golf and this is in no way making people out there be like, well, I'm not going to play or be into golf now because things like this are happening. is turning eyes onto golf. And it's making the characters deeper and more complex from Brandel, who's getting sued by people and see indeed by people and players for going on and just saying his opinion, which is what he's literally supposed to do. And Patrick Reed, who is, you know, a top 10 or 15 player in the world who's Catholic in America, who won the Masters a year and a half ago going after Brando Chambly.

It's great. I didn't even know you can get decent dissisted for saying something. I don't think you can. I thought it's like you're making profit off, like selling something is what, like a, like stop producing this content. I mean, I don't. I guess it works. Seasons cysts. I mean, especially when you're in public.

Like, I always thought, I always thought like cease and desist was like we could be profiting off of what you're selling. This so you know what our situation is. But he was, you can be cease and desist that I believe for anything like illegal. So like defamation, right? Like they could be like, you know, you're defaming my character. It's cease and desist. It does feel like a little bit like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy. Like him, Patrick Reed wanted to cease and desist Brandel Champlain.

I called him a cheater. You know a cheater? Seasons desist. Yeah, boom, you're ceasing desisted. It's like, that doesn't mean anything happens, but Patrick Reed wants Brandl Shambly to know. I don't like what you're doing over there. Sees and desist. So now it begs the question.

It begs the question to me. Do you think Patrick Reed genuinely thought this would work? Or do you think he's aware enough to know like, this is the right play? I like justine wrote the letter, sent it to. Brando Chambley and then instead of putting a like posted stamp she like put on really red lipstick and just kissed the top of the envelope just to keep going no it's like on the back right in the back where they usually put

a crest or like maybe you'll put like a seal like a game of Thrones yeah maybe it'll put some fucking wax and you'll step down she just got on the thickest red lipstick and then right on that part of the envelope she just kissed it so that when brandishamble who the fucks is from she turns around it's got a lipstick kiss on it's like what the fuck It opens it up, you're dead. Ceasing desist. No more speaking.

Stop calling. No more speaking about Patrick. You're done. You're done. You're canceled. I like it. I'll put you in jail. But it's not going to work,

but I like that they're sending the message. Cease and desist. If someone says anything you may not have that I don't like, I'm just to keep an eye out for that. What? Yeah, it's speculation. I don't know that she sent the message. That's all alleged.

I thought that was factual. No, no. It's all alleged. Cease and desist. Like if someone we've made, make fun of your way. Season to assist. Yeah, you're just going to see in D people? You're just going to point. We're throwing it around here for those

who can't see like we have wands, like in Harry Potter, and we're pointing. Seasons assist. Yeah. C. Rangers 1-6-2. Brandl should season to assist. Patrick, Reed. 6-2 was so much better than 6-1. I can't tell you how much better I fell after they scored that second goal. They beat the hell out of the islanders out now. It was bad. 6-2. Blues is the best team in the H. I'm serious.

You got an ECHL team out in Iowa? We got the Cedar Rapids Rough Riders U.S.HL, I believe. Okay. Shouted to them. My uncle was the mascot. Was it a piece of corn? No.

What was it? What was the fucking mascot? It was a horse named Ricochet. Tell him a senior. There's a big hoi. Big piece of corn. Seasoned. It was a horse named Ricochet.

And one time my uncle could not make like a Boys and Girls Club meetup. Tell me you did it. And he enlisted me to do it. And I drove down to the ice arena. What's happening? How far is that? That's, you know, five or six miles.

I drove down there. I didn't wear the head in the car because it wouldn't fit. And then I went, and I, a little fact about me, I can't ice skate. So I just went out onto the ice with all these little kids. And I just stood there. I was supposed to be interacting. I'm ricochet. I'm the mascot.

You're the guy to bring the energy. I'm supposed to do it. I just, I waddled out onto the ice until I figured like that's a good distance to be. Distance from the wall. and I just stood there and all the kids skating. What a danger. At any given second, you could have lost your balance and taken one of those kids out. How far, yeah, video would be so good.

Yeah. How far off the boards would you say you made it before you said, this is a good distance, I'll just be ricochet the tree in the middle of the ice. I probably made it like halfway to the logo in the middle. So I'm like home. I'm a little. You're out there. And then I'm probably just,

I probably waved my arms a little bit and was just like, yeah, let's get it going. And then I just tried not to fall. But I had to do my uncle solid. He had a prior engagement, and I said, yeah, I'll put on the horse costume and I'll go. What in his mind was like, oh, Trent's qualified to do this? He can't skate. Yeah, that's it. So we're looking at the photo now, and that guy's at least holding on to the board.

That's probably my uncle. I mean, I know that it is. This is ricochet the horse. His name is ricochet. So ricochet the horse is on. It's hot in those things. Oh, I don't talk about it. Just a billion degrees, and you don't look through the eyes.

you're looking through the mouth of it. It is just, I probably lost. Is he still ricochet? How many years do you do this for? I actually can't say, I don't know. I don't know if he is or not. What's that? How many years did he do this for?

A long time. He might still be doing it. I don't know. Do you not talk to your uncle? I just haven't seen him recently. No, I don't know. He wasn't, I didn't see him at Christmas. I didn't seem at Thanksgiving.

I don't know. He might still be doing it. It's, it's an honor for him to be ricochet. And I was honored that day to be able to. It's honorable. It's honorable. It's honorable. It's honorable, yeah.

It really is. Amazing. Shout out to the Cedar Rapids of Rough Riders. Do you think he was doing it as a joke on you because he knew you couldn't skate and it was a skating engagement? I wouldn't put it past him, but I think he had something to do. And I just stepped up to the plate and I made it happen. You know, I was my question. I'm just like the guy that can't skate to go out on the ice with kids.

Like, I'm sure he's got a buddy that can skate. Yeah, I don't know why he asked me. Would you set the head on the passenger sheet? Yeah. And you drove with the hoofs on your feet? I drove, I was just, yeah, the butt from the neck down, I looked like a horse. What about your arms? Your hands?

You put your, you put those little hooves on the, like put the blaker on with your hose? Yeah. Imagine a cop like the chess cam pulled you over, came around to the front door and you're just dressed with a hood. I'd have thrown the head on. It's amazing you did that for little kids. You don't like kids. You don't want to have kids. Are we going to talk about this?

It's weird that you don't want to have kids. I don't want to have. Are you one of those people the world is so evil? You don't want to introduce your kids to it? No, that's not it at all. It's that I'm far too selfish and that I just like doing my own thing all the time. And I see these people who have these little children and they just, their lives are over. And I'm far too selfish for that.

Do you want to get married or are you selfish enough that you don't want to experience life with anybody else? Undecided. Okay. Undecided. All right. I could get married. But I can't do the kid thing. I can't do it.

There's too many people here already. What if you got the love of your life? She's great. Mrs. Trent. She's awesome. And she wants to get married. Or she wants to have kids. Yeah.

It is one of those situations where right now in this moment I can be very like, bra, this is like how I feel. Give you pregnant, Trent. But that could be, boy, you know, people tell me that all the time. But it's, it'll kick it to a point. He said to me before he's like on Tuesday nights when like people are putting their kids to bed, I can just, I can just get naked and eat ice cream and lay on the floor. No one can say a word to me. I can go home. Not wrong.

I can go home and just lay down on the bathroom on the, like, the kitchen floor. And it's like, it doesn't matter. It doesn't sound like a great existence, though, in my eyes. It doesn't matter. Like, you're just thinking, like, I'm going to lay down on the floor. I mean, I get. That doesn't sound. That sounds nice.

I always say you can do whatever you want. Yeah, no. Anything I want all the time. And I, right now, at this point in my life, 30 years old, me 31 in a couple months, I love being able to do whatever I want all the time. It's, it's incredible. And you see it get taken away from people who have kids. That's just what it is. They have to, they have to, like, never, can those people again just, like, take a nap?

Really? Because they got to think, like, where is that little thing? I agree. Yeah, there's a lot of that, for sure. The little thing could be wrestling around. I don't know where it is. It could be, yeah, it could be out on the fucking balcony or something, just like, what am I doing? How mean were those kids to ricochet Trent?

They were actually pretty nice. I think they were just excited to be skating. And, like, I was just the weird guy in the horse costume. The stationary horse. Yeah, there's a stationary horse over there. I was a couple times. So for my parents, I put them through a blender. There was a couple times.

my mom would just call the cops because instead of taking the bus home, I would just walk home. And this was before cell phone. So instead of coming home on the bus, I wouldn't show up to like 5, 5.30. And then I'd walk in the front door. My mom would call the town cops being like, I don't know where my kid is. And that happened on multiple occasions. So like stuff like that stinks. And you'll hear parents say like, oh, it's incredibly rewarding.

It's having these children. That to me is that's propaganda. They want misery loves company. and they want they want you to feel as bad as they feel. There's also a part where it's like you need something to live for at some point. Your life ends up getting boring. I've got to hit that point.

Yeah, because we're 30. Mike Portnoy would literally not have anything to do right now how do not have like a son. You know, we always talk about that, his radio show. Well, I think he gave him life. Like maybe it'd be just way, like his life would just be way different. I don't know if it's, he wouldn't do anything. He wouldn't do anything.

He wouldn't do anything. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Do you think your parents? are pumped they had you or no. Damn. My parents? You have to see how he turned out?

No fucking way. I'm great to my parents. Me and my parents got a great relationship. But yeah, it's just not something that I, like, and I, when I said it before the show started, you all acted like I said like, you know, go fuck yourselves and your family. No, no, no. But it's like, it's almost weird to me that everybody's like, let's just have a bunch of kids. Well, the whole purpose of life is to really reproduce. That's like the main point.

I feel like humans. we've evolved past that. This thing's going to keep going. No matter what you do, what you do, it's going to keep moving. Yeah, but it's in your DNA, man. It's in who you are as a person. You've got to reproduce. That's like your success.

You did it. Your boys can swim. I'm choosing to deny that part of my existence. I think you're going to come around someday. It's possible. You're laying on your floor eating ice cream. You'll be like, you know what? There's got to be something better than this.

I'm putting down this cookie dough and I'm going to go have myself a kid. Boy, I got to tell you, that seems unlikely. I love cookie. What's your favorite ice cream? It's definitely not mint chocolate chip. Keep it in the bathroom. Fuck off. Keep mint in the bathroom.

That's one of our great quotes from this show. Yeah. You, Riggs, I go to dinner, we get dessert. You'll just get plain vanilla. I think that's a great move. Two scoops of vanilla ice cream. It's childish. Dinner all time.

It is for dessert. It's very childish, but I like it. It's good, though. It's tasty, but like, yeah. I like it dressed up. If it's going to be called the whatever, the fountain chocolate Sunday, give that to me. Here's my point. I don't need to be.

I don't need to say just get two scoobloat. of vanilla, just give that to me. Here's my point is that that's like my post-dinner dessert. So I don't have room and a desire for all this other bullshit, all your bells and whistles. Oh, I savor them. If I'm going to, like, if it's like a late-night thing and we haven't had a meal in a couple of a couple of hours, we're going to like a fucking, we're going to get ice cream. Then I'm very interested.

Give me all the bullshit. Right. But when it's post-dinner, I just need a nice little like palate cleanser. Exactly. I want a couple scoops of vanilla ice cream. Keep it simple. I disagree, but I see where you're coming from. Thank you.

I appreciate that. The meal is way better than chocolate. For sure. Unless you get a frosty Shut up. Jake. Jake's going. Unless you get a frosty. If you get vanilla frosty, you should be punished, murdered,

put in fucking jail. Yeah, well, yeah, that's weird. You're right, gross. You get vanilla frosty? You know what I love are those dairy queen blizzards. Sure. Fine. But let's talk about frosties.

Oh. Let's talk about frosties for a second. I would have kids to do you right now. Lurch, do you like vanilla frosties? I do. I'm trying to get rid of dairy, though. You motherfucker. because it doesn't sit well with the old system.

Yeah. I'm farting a ton. Yeah, more than that. Is he gassy? Basically turns my stomach to do as a grenade. You know what does that to me is salad? Salad runs right through me. Dude, you have a horrible body.

I mean, that's just because your body's like, we do not eat this. Yes, this doesn't come in. I was talking to YP. He was saying like he gets, when we get just said, goes, I have to, like, I always have to go to the bathroom.

What dressing you put on? You know, you got a look in it? Alamic vinegar, yeah. Oh. Coat cheese. I actually have a nice salad. You don't like vanilla frosty? No.

because chocolate's so much better than why would you ever When you say Frosty, you just mean milk shake. No, no. Nope. You're gonna, you just open a fucking bag,

dude. You just open a pan of worms. I'm talking about a Wendy's Frosty, you motherfucker. Yeah, I probably had two of those my life. What? Yeah.

He doesn't do fast food. Yeah. We eat, I'm gonna order one right now while we're on the fuck. I'm gonna order one for myself right now. Really, I think,

uh, before the one that we, Spider, I think got us a bunch of frosty. Yes. Before that one, I didn't have a frosty in 20 years. How good was that?

Fucking outrageous. Fantastic. But before that, I can't even... Imagine going with a vanilla. At least 20 years. But that's strange that you would say that, Riggs, because you're the vanilla ice cream guy. The frosty's chocolate. But then, but all those situations where you're like, I order vanilla, why don't you order chocolate?

I order vanilla in every other situation, too. The only chocolate ice cream I'll really eat is a frosty. Yeah, I think it's just the way that they do it. They're mixed. Whatever it is. Just a bag of sugar and some cake ice cream. Like a chocolate frosty from fucking Wendy's is. is iconic.

It's really just soft serve ice cream. You're soft serve ice cream. Yeah, I think there's some truth. I think that's a pretty good comeback. After my long, probably too long conversation on the show last time about how much I love Sour Patch Kids and by extension of sugar. And a couple of people reach out to me and be like, you have to try these extreme Sour Patch kids.

These are people who are trying to kill me. Did you try them? No, I haven't. They don't even sell them at the Dwayne Redone of my building. But you don't want to see this guy get a hold of it. It's coming with a warning label on him. Yeah, he's like, I had a couple of people tweeting me like, hey, I know you're addicted to sugar. Have you fucking seen these extreme sour patch kids?

And now I'm just on the hunt for him. Or some online. I might. Trent walks into like a CVS. He's scratch his neck. He's like, you guys got any of those fucking. Give me the kids stuff. It's legal.

It's everywhere. My buddy used to have sugar cubes. You ever have those? Just toss those things back when you were a kid? What are they? Like a horse? Just sugar cubes. He'd buy like a box.

His parents would buy boxes of just. sugar cubes, I think you just drop them in your coffee or something like that. Fucking right. But we get a hold of them and they were like, just the sore centimeter by a centimeter. You just hop them back and you just let it sit in your tongue. You ever have pixie stick? Our sugar. You ever have pixie sticks?

Fun dip. Oh, yeah. Just ripped out of it. I don't even need that little vanilla stick that they give you. You just pour that sucker in your mouth. Just open up your gullet and just shove. Just sugar. I'm thinking of, I'm thinking a fun dip.

That's what I said fund dip. That's what I think of the same thing. Yeah. No, pixie sticks are those just, it's like, it's basically a straw rubber. with packed with sugar and no straw. Yeah. That's what it is. And you open it up each milk.

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like us, because then it's fun being like, remember when Tiger won the Masters? But then every day that he is number one in the world, that is evidence, pure evidence that that day at that point in time, he is literally the best player in the world. And we can just run with that every single day. It's a daily reminder as opposed to being like, remember when he won the Masters? Remember when he won the Zozo? It's no, it's happening here and now. I'm not saying the other things aren't fun and fun to gloat about.

But if he becomes number one again after everything, after this generation of his that he inspired, if we can then be like, boom, here is hard evidence that he's the best right now. That would be fun. It would be an incredible thing to say that he not only, it wasn't some, you know, lightning in a bottle. It's like, no, he reemerged now. He's 44 years old. Everybody said that this new generation, that they're too young, they're too good, they hit the ball too far, that there's too much depth and all this, that. No, not only has he won a couple events that he is like when you accumulate points over years to determine who the single best player on the planet is, that, oh, it's him again.

There's definitely some merit to that. I don't think that's going to happen. The reason I don't think it's going to happen, I think Tiger very clearly is like a peak a couple times, four times a year guy. He's not going to risk it. He's not going to be able to be out there working sunup to sundown on. every aspect of his game like he used to. He talks about like when his kids go to school, he can work on his game and practice. And then when they come home from school, like, he just can't anymore because he's all about

his kids and Charlie and all this. And so I think that like he needs such a comprehensive approach to be able to get to that point that he won't essentially be able to take that approach almost ever again. I hope I'm wrong. That's fair. I mean, he has gotten all the way back up to number seven, which is not that far from number one. It's pretty close.

He was at like 2000. He was way down there. I think he was at like $1,300 or something. And I don't know. Nobody, not even the people who put the World Golf Ranking's website together, knows how this stuff works. No chance. No, not a clue.

It's some sort of Goodwill hunting formula. But he could get up there. I think if he plays well enough, consistently enough, he doesn't play a ton, but if he plays well enough in those tournaments, it would be so much fun if he got back to number. He also does only play tournaments that have, like, a lot of points. Right. Because he just plays the biggest tournaments, pretty much.

So, yeah, that was going to be my point, is that he's playing in the big ones, and if he riles off a couple wins, which we're hoping, expecting, dreaming, hoping for. I think no doubt about it, if Tiger has a year that we wanted to have, I think he ends at world number one and just takes over the world again. I will say and concede that the biggest argument against everything I said is that I have no idea how the point system works. Nobody does. None. It's a great point. None. You would assume that the higher the purse amount, the more points, right?

I think so. The way that I'm looking at is if things continue the way they have been going these last like whatever 18 months, 24 months, and it's gotten him up to number seven. Do similar things to that and you're going to keep going. Like if you win the John Deer Classic, you get negative points. You get no points. You are awarded zero points. Because you haven't beaten anybody in the top 100. Correct. Right.

Seasons assist. The whole fucking room. Okay. The whole fucking room. You too, Jake. You didn't say anything. I love how this golf podcast is talking about the point system. Like it's, I mean, a foreign language.

It is, though. Yeah, it is. I have no idea how it starts. Like these, they have average points, total points, points, points lost. Like, these are all just, I don't know what any of that means. Just let me know when Tiger gets back to the number one. I think. I think Tiger Woods has such a remarkable year that he gets the number one in the world. I think that.

I think Tiger Woods wins four times this year. So he's got to get the number one then. Yeah, I mean, if he wins four times the tournament that he plays, he's number one. He's a lot. I admitted, I don't know how the points work. But you do admit that given that he would be number one. I don't know because I think like if Brooks Kepka wins like a major in another tournament and Tiger wins a major in three other tournaments, I don't know that he goes from seventh

to like seating Brooks Kepka's number one. I don't know how the points were. Golfers receive points based on their performance and the quality of their competition. So John Deere, yeah, you're right. You wouldn't get any points. And then zero points. Major points. Players receive the most points for winning a major tournament.

The victors of the Masters of PGA, the U.S. Open, and the British will receive 100 points apiece with runner-ups, score. rank 60 points. So you get a pretty big bump if you win. Look. I'm going to say yes. I love that everyone's saying yes. I feel like I'm rattled that I said no.

And his question isn't, will he get number one in the world this year? It's just ever. And I'm going to take the yes on that. What you said are because you don't care, which is different than saying no. True. I did mostly say I don't care. Yeah. I don't know that they really care that much either.

I guess it's a little bit of a feather in your cap, but like it doesn't mean anything. It doesn't get you anything. There are guys who, that I, I think it does mean a lot to them. I think so? Yeah, that's, like, that's legitimate proof that you are the best golfer in the world. And to your point, Tran, it sounds like it's just like it's coming from a point of validation. Yes.

Like, from everything he's gone through, circling back, obviously winning the master is amazing. But getting to the true number one in the world at that given time is just insane validation of everything that he's been through. And I think for speaking to most, like all the golfers where you just, it's like it's the ultimate validation where ever, you picked up a, club one day when you were a kid and then at one point during the point in time you were the best in the world that's pretty fucking cool I agree that it's definitely very cool but I'm looking at this right now like you think Roy McRoy cares that he's number two and not number one right now yeah yes see I don't think he cares at all I think to say not at all is strong I think he cares I don't think he just I don't know I don't think of Brooks Keppka's but he's not losing anything

there's no meaning to it doesn't do it like in tennis there's a meaning to it like if you're number one or number like two it changes your bracket and like who you're going to have to play it like when you play in the majors that's how you're seated and it affects things like in golf it means nothing i think rory being number two he cares about it the most when you're number two there's no way he looks at that and looks like oh number two like that's good he might look at it that way but i also think he's like well i made it this far i might as well go all the way up i don't think he cares i mean i know we obviously all know i'm not going to like say that this is the same thing I think he's rattled.

He doesn't want a fucking major since 2014. But I don't think that, like, I think all of these other thoughts of, like, what he's doing and what he's got to do to win, like, a major again and get over that kind of hurdle that he hasn't been able to get over for five or six years is all that he cares about. I don't think he gives a shit that he's one or two. Yeah, I don't agree with that. I think being, like, people saying, like, world number one, Brooks Kefka,

I think guys get a fucking, that makes their dick hard. I do. I think I'm any athlete. Producer Jake just goes nice. Jake said that off-caver. Think about any world-class athlete in a competitive environment. No way are they looking at it like, no, I don't care about whether or not I'm number one. I get what you're saying where it doesn't necessarily mean anything, but on the other,

but it also means almost everything. But I don't know that they, I guess what I would say that I haven't articulated yet is, I don't know that they believe that this system, point system, we don't even understand, is the barometer for like, if you're the, best in the world or not. I think that their view of it is like Rory believes he's the best in the world and he's going to go out and he won the players. He won the FedEx Cup and he's going to go out there and win the majors this year and he believes it. I don't think like he cares because I don't, like, this is almost like if they cared like that the rig system says that like he's number one in the world.

Because there are times. This is different, but like it's on some level, it's the same thing. I know what you mean because there are times like Justin Thomas, he's number four right now, but there have been stretches where he's best player in the world and he's just not number one. and everybody knows that he's the best player in the world, but it's just for whatever reason, this confusing-ass system didn't recognize it that way, but I still think at the end of the day, they are competitive athletes,

and being number one, regardless of who put the system together, it's a way to be like, I'm the best of the world. How about the fact that Rory has more points than Brooks, but he's in second because his average points is lower? Because he played in more events. That's why I think they don't care, because that's just, like, dumb. Like, it doesn't matter.

Like there's a reason that they still have And we've had They had debates in the last couple weeks On Golf Channel Of like going into 2020 Who is the best player in the world Like is it Brooks? Is it JT?

Is it Tiger who's had this great beer? Because like people don't take this as gospel This is just like The way that somebody decided That they're going to say if you're the best I think but I think people who are close And who follow golf Know that the system is weird

And not necessarily indicative Indicative Indicative of who is the best player in the world But for more casual people in the world. They'll just see Brooks Kepka's number one in the world. Boom. I know he's super good. Yeah, but now the counterpoint, he does have a higher average points because he played

10 less events. He's, Brooks Kepka's a really good golfer. Number one in the world. He's number one in the world. That's impressive to be number one in the world by this website. That's good. I see both sides of it. I think they might care. I think it's super impressive to be number one in the world and have 10 less events played,

nine less events played than third. seven less events played than fourth. I mean, every event he played, he just did better than the other guys. Like on an average. And there are times when it does match up. Like when Brooks Keppka was one of those majors, it's like, oh, he's playing the best right now

and he's number one. Like that makes sense. Sometimes it does and sometimes it does. Yeah. I think it is a good barometer for who's the best in the world. It's all we got. It's kind of all we got. It's all the guys who are the best.

Yeah, if you look at it, the names are there. Like those are the ones. Over the last two years, Brooks Kebkeke has had a better year than Rory, John Rom, Ron, Justin Thomas, Dustin Johnson. That's how they compute it. Can't lay way up there. I think they've got it fucking figured out.

Can't they is up there. He's up there. It's not perfect, but it's what we got. Okay. That's our, I mean, yeah, that was our discussion on that. Yeah. That's just it. I don't really know how to put a bow on it.

I think that was nice. That was. That was really got into golf right there. Yeah. We're a golf podcast when we're not talking about overdose on sugar and things of that nature. And they're saying it was blues being the best team in the NHL. And refusing. to have children.

I just won't. 60 Rangers. Over the Islanders. Season desist. The Blues is going to happen tomorrow. Henry Colunquis hasn't beaten the Islanders in four years. He's not playing tomorrow. It's such an embarrassment.

By the way, when this comes out, it's my dad's birthday. I have that my calendar. That's nice. Sprelly's birthday. Many people message me today being like, I have no idea why. I had no idea why on my calendar. It says Mr. B's birthday tomorrow. He's like, I've been trying to figure it out at work.

Like this one guy's like, I spent 20 minutes being like, who's fucking birthday is it? Did you put the word out at one point? Yeah, on the podcast. Five months ago. Oh, really? Yeah. I go, by the way, speaking of my calendar,

Mr. Borrelli's birthday. I was like, January 16th, January 16th. We said something about January 16th. I'm like, speaking of January 16th, that's my dad's birthday.

Yeah, what did we say January? I know. Now that's got me wondering, did I, was I supposed to put something important in there and I put in your dad's birthday in there? No, I said, no, we said it on the pod.

The St. Louis Blues have have nine more points in the second place team in the West. The West also stinks out loud. It does currently. What did I say last night It's three points between second and ninth. I don't know if that's the case, but the east is so much more top-heavy,

but the lowest, so to get into the playoffs is the same in the east and the west. So the second wild card threshold is the same, but I mean there's four or five teams over the 60-point mark in the top of the east. It's not even close in the west. Like the blues would be right there with the Bruins, the light, you know what I mean? Well, they'd be ahead and they have the most points in the edge of. Yeah, by one point. Yeah. Okay. We're not, it's not a hockey podcast. We're done here. We'll be back on Tuesday. That will be Tiger Woods begins his 2020 campaign week. Torrey Pines begins next week. Tiger Woods begins his season next week. A lot of hype, a lot of expectations for him. Everybody have a lovely week and weekend. We'll be back Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.