Fore Play - Frankie “Patrick Reed” Borrelli and Kyle Rudolph

Episode Date: July 16, 2020

Breaking News: Turns out our very own Frankie Borrelli might have dishonored the rules of golf and besmirched his name amongst fans of the show. We get into bunker-gate with Frankie, including a call from his Pinehurst caddie Logan to find out if Frankie really did in fact cheat. After, we discuss Bryson’s comments on Tiger, Jack Nicklaus texting JT congrats after his 50-foot putt last week, and more. Then friend of the show, Kyle Rudolph (40:53) joins us to talk about his experience at a variety of pro-ams including last week's American Century Championship!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We have breaking news, really, I would say, on Twitter.com, where a disturbing clip, a very disturbing clip has surfaced from one of our own videos, some of our own footage of Frank Borrelli, doing what I think the internet is calling the Patrick, read. Now, you know, I understand there's a little bit of a backstory. Ebug was saying there's a backstory. Frankie was saying there's a backstory, but the zoom in clearly shows Frankie browning his

club right behind the ball in a green side bunker while we're playing tinerist number four, takes the club back, it brushes away some sand. He then comes through and that's the clip. So, you know, I don't want to jump to any conclusions. I don't want to, um, you know, I don't want to disparage Frankie's good names without hearing from him first. So Frankie, this clip just surfaced. What are your immediate reactions to what's happening right now? Yeah, I've been bamboozled. I mean, hey, listen, everyone makes mistakes in life.

So, like, if I was to take a little bit of sand, then I'm going to be the first one to admit I took a little bit of sand. I took a little bit of sand. I'm not going to run away from that. But, you know, if you watch the whole clip, my caddy. Logan, who's my guy, I'm not going to throw him under the bus too much. You're sure? Okay, I was going to say something. Oh, really?

All that's a setup. He's obviously going to crush him right now. No, I'm not going to crush him. It's just like if you watch the full clip, which was conveniently left out of the video and on Twitter and on Instagram and everywhere we have social media presence is. Honestly, too much Frankie content today. I don't know why that had to make it to all the social media

accounts, but here's the thing. My caddy, Logan, took the camera because someone else was running one of the other camera guys were running somewhere else. So they gave Logan my caddy the camera to film me during this. And I literally ask him, I'm like, I'm allowed to ground my club over here. I can take practice things. You see me before the clip. I'm smack in sand like a crazy person. I'm allowed to do this. He's like, yep. I'm like, there's no bunkers and piner's, baby. I'm smack in sand. So I go up to the ball.

And obviously, like, if you're going to give me any sort of leeway saying you're allowed to ground your club, I'm going to dig that thing to China. Like, I'm going to go all the way down. There was a full, a full indentation in that, in that bunker. Yeah, but like, if you tell me I'm allowed to ground my club, I'm going to do everything I can in before that swing to make sure I can get this ball over the fucking mountain that was that green side bunker. So, yeah, I probably did the wrong thing, but also I was, I was told.

You were saying you're misguided. I was misguided. I was told there's no bunk. bunkers at Pinehurst. That was the wording. From a guy who had to walk it back yesterday. I know how to walk a few things back. You were just misguided in the bunker. Completely misguided. Yeah, I mean, again, it's a problematic.

I was trying to think about it chronologically, and we filmed that like the first week of November. And then Patrick Reed's situation was mid-November, I want to say. So you really sort of invented the Patrick Reed move. or you just take all the standout from behind the balls so you have a perfect lie? And you actually, you did that before Patrick Reed. I've been doing that as well. I've been doing that for five years old.

You said he invented the move his all time. I've been doing that to tell it was five years old. Do you guys know what my dad is? My dad uses a wedge that literally has plastic grooves on it so it can spin backwards. Listen, I'm always going to give myself the edge on the golf course. I'm just saying. I'm just saying that I was told and I was misguided, which is a good word, by my caddy and by someone that knows piner's like the back of his hand, that I was able to do it.

You should see the clip before. I'm literally, I'm having, I'm like in one of those little sand pits. I'm like running around. I'm rummaging around the sand. But no one said anything about that. The unfortunate thing for you, and Patrick reads, you know, his, he can attest to this as well. none of that context is going to follow you around. The only thing that's going to follow you around is that clip.

And the one that's going by right now of you clearly grounding your club in the bunker, people are going to remember that and they're going to chirp you for it. Because anywhere Patrick Reed goes, we saw it at the President's Cup, he gets chirped for cheating because he grounded his club in a bunker. So you can say you were misguided that Logan told you could do these things. But the fact of the matter is you're going to be branded a cheater going forward. Great. That's awesome.

Yeah. Thanks, I mean, it's like crazy. Like to get more views so we can just do that for everything now, I guess, right? Like you can do that for everything just to get more views. We'll put out and we'll change things around to make it look certain ways so that everyone has a certain, you know, people say certain things about them. I'd like to go and recommend that I support eBugs decision to cut it in that way. Yeah, I fully endorse eBugs editorial move in this situation.

I think it was the right. the right play. Got it. That right there, that response to Frankie, I worry about because he is very much involved in the editing process of these travel series. So I feel like he's going to fuck over me and Riggs now that we have agreed. You know what I mean? So I'm going to keep my eye out for that. We all might have to watch cuts of the show right before it comes out. Like Trent and I are going to tee off and then there's going to be a clip from like a year before where we pull a ball out of our pocket and then we're just like putting on the green

He's going to be like, look at these fucking cheaters. So it is. It's a problem that we're in right now. I will say, Frankie, I was, I think everybody's a little bit confused because they changed the rule. I'm battling my mask right now in the Uber because I don't want to, you're obviously trying to think about your fellow person right now and protecting against this global pandemic and the spread of it.

But I looked up because the rule changed, right, with the whole kind of easing of the rules. to make them under. So you can, you know, your club can technically touch the sand. Your hand can touch the sand out. And so I think a lot of people are a little bit confused. So I looked it up and what it actually says

is touching the sand with the club right in front of or behind the ball or in the back swing for the stroke will continue to be prohibited to make sure the player does nothing to reduce the challenge of playing from the sand. These prohibitions are already well known and followed by almost all players. That's actually what it says. and you're just not one of those players, I think. I think that's kind of what we found out. So, so yeah, what is, I want to see the full clip.

What actually, what actually occurs that is maybe vindicating in the clip? I legitimately look back and I'm like, there's no bunkers and piner's. And like, and what's not on the video is right before that, I ask Logan. I'm like, I can do whatever I want in here. Like, I can literally just like have a sandpies. pit party and just run around and do whatever I want and like tee this thing up and he's like, yop. So I'm, he turns on the camera and I'm like, all right, we're over here at the bunker. There's no bunkers here in Pinehurst, apparently. It's all waste areas. So I'm just going to

take a couple of practice swings here and I smack the ground like 10 times. I'm like, all right, we're going to get a feel for these things. And then I go up there and I hit it. I'm like, oh, wait. You can see the divot right next to your ball. So there is some background to that. Like it looks like you took a shovel in the sand trip. Is there, is the conversation you have with Logan? Is that not on video? I got to watch it right now. I'm like, no, that's not because Logan had the camera.

Unless Ebo's like keeping that part out now. Take it easy, Frank. I'm not keeping that. No, no. Brendan, Ebug, you're doing a great job. Evog, you've gone perfect, Ebug. It's just, it's a little convenient. And I guess maybe the video will, will vindicate you.

But the conversation you have with Logan where he was like, have free reign of this bunker. You can clearly see that I'm talking to, in the video, you can clearly see in the video, I'm saying there's no bunkers here in Paris. Wouldn't he be like, well, actually, that's incorrect. That's fair. But you're saying the specific conversation

where you were like, hey, I can just do whatever I want here is not on film. Okay. No. Yeah, that's a bummer. Yeah, it's a super unfortunate. That's not on film, that'd be, because everything else is on film, you know.

Yeah. And I wasn't on the trip either. This was before my time. We'd have to reach out to Andrew. where nobody else was around apparently it's an interesting clip it's one that's like like Trent said you know I don't I feel bad for you frankly

because I do think that the context over the months and months that this goes on is going to kind of get dwindled down and it's really just going to come down to the nuts and bolts and people are probably going to say bad things and mean things to you I don't want to see that yeah it's crazy that that's the one thing that we keep in

whatever it's fine it is just it's insane whatever it is what it is I just picture like various memes, like your swing, but with Patrick Reed's head on top or something like, it's just going to be so good. Be a real shame if people made those and put them out on Twitter. Be a real shame. You're confusing me, though, Frank. You're saying that you're a man who flouts the rules all the time, but you seem very offended.

I do, but people think that you flatter the rules. But the, yeah, all right, all right, all right. Fine. I agree. You agree with what? You're a cheater? Cool. Sure.

Handicap police is coming hard now. Oh, my God. Actually, Trent, I loved your response to it with a ump just saying get out of here. It's so good. Didn't even, I'll be honest, that gift didn't even make it a ton of sense, but I love that gift so much that if I ever had the opportunity to use it,

it's the one of the yump going boom and then throwing the guy out. That's one of the best gifts of all time. Well, I just liked it. I mean, I thought, I took in reference to, like, the handy, like, Twitter police coming around and you're just like, get the hell out of here. defending Frankie a little bit, which I support it. Because I do think, yeah, there's

like, Frankie's not a cheater. Like, it's a bad clip. It's my, like, what I say right now is not going to matter. You're just going to get crushed on Twitter, but I respected Trent Defending. Logan was to the right of the camera. I'm watching the clip now. Right. I think it was Andrew. He was the only one that would be able to defend you. Yeah, I don't, I wouldn't

say that you're a cheater, Frankie. I don't find you to be a cheater, but I think like violating a rule that you're not sure about is very different than being labeled a cheater. But I do fear that the internet is not going to make that distinction as we move forward here in our, in kind of our public lives. What do you think the percentage of the internet actually making that distinction is? I think you're looking at the guys. To be honest with you, I'm not, I'm not going to tell you in full confidence, but I'm going to make that distinction when it comes to certain incidents on the

internet. You know, like he looks like he's losing color in his face right now. because he's just, he looks pasty, he looks uncomfortable, and he's just formulated a response. He had a great day with his Knives Creek and the old, you know, the old photos of him on property screening with his upside-down map. It was so good. And then, unfortunately, this is kind of how his day is going to be remembered, I feel.

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He's joining the show. He's a huge golfer. Frankie played with him up in Minnesota recently. So I'm sure we'll get into some of that. And if he happened to catch anything during the round, that's maybe of note. And then we got a lot of the Memorial tournament to get into. We got Bryson, Tiger Wood, they played together in a practice round today. Bryson made a pretty outrageous comment, which I'm sure was made.

I'm not sure. Maybe he was made in jest. I've just seen it floating all over Twitter. I don't know if Bryson's kind of getting screwed on the context. But he said Tiger was driving at 320 to 300. 25 yards, that's pretty good for his age. So that's sort of a comment that's going around everywhere. And if that is not made as a joke, I mean, then that's maybe the most ridiculous comment I've ever heard. Did he laugh after this? Has anybody seen the actual clip of him saying

that? No. I have not, but it's definitely a comment that's a little too big for his britches. That's an outrageous, like, condescending comment from old Bryson boy, kind of in the shoes that he's sitting in. I can't believe that he could say it. But I don't, I haven't seen on full clip. So he's, he's got to be joking. I almost can guarantee that he was joking. But first of all, in every joke, there's a little bit of truth. Everybody, that's what everybody says. So Bryson might, he was clearly probably joking. And once the clip comes out, if it ever does, I'm sure he laughed and the guy talking to him laughed. But like I said, there's a little bit of truth in every joke. And as we know with guys like Tiger Woods, as we saw in the last dance with

Michael Jordan. Even if he was joking and Tiger can, if they ask him about it, he'd be like, ha, yeah, he was, that's a funny comment. Tiger can still internalize that, flip it around and make it turn it into a motivator and he's going to win all three majors if he does that. Like, I think Tiger Woods has the mental capacity to be like, sure, he was joking, but I can flip it on myself and have it motivate me for the rest of the season. I think he can absolutely do that. Yeah, it's the Abraham answer, right? I mean, that's exactly what Honest Dave did, where he's, you know, I'd love to take on Tiger Woods. Who wouldn't against play Tiger and singles?

That'd be really cool. Whereas Tiger put that up on a bolting board of, you know, this guy says he wants to play me because he knows he can beat me, and I'm going to beat his ass and prove a point. And that's sort of what these folks have to do. Like you mentioned, Trent, Michael Jordan made stuff up. He just invented things that people said to try to motivate himself. And your tweet was perfect.

I can't wait for Tiger Woods to take this incredibly seriously and use it to dominate the field and win the rest of the majors all you're wrong. So that's kind of how I take it. the Stephen Ames, the Abraham Answer. We've seen this kind of stuff before. Sergio Garcia, one of the great clips that we don't really talk about enough is when Tiger Wood said when Sergio was bitching about him pulling his club and the crowd was going crazy at Salgrass, and Tiger just responded with like, oh, Sergio is complaining about

something. That's surprising. So he does. Anytime he doesn't miss anything, right? He's one of those guys who, like, he doesn't miss any of these comments and he's not going going to miss this one. having said all of that, the reports from today were that Bryson, when he was hitting his good drives and hitting him out there pretty hard, was 50 yards past Tiger. And when he was hitting

him not as well and sort of dialing it back a little bit, he was still like 15 yards ahead of Tiger. I don't like to hear that at all. And there's definitely a part of it where Bryson's feeling himself. He doesn't make that comment. If he's not the talk of the town, he's the toast of the town, he won a tournament. People can't stop talking about how big he is and how far he hits the ball. So that comment comes from a place of like, yeah, I'm a little bit of the shit now, but I would be, I would tread very carefully if I were Bryson D. Chambot. Tiger has a history of just taking these things and running with him. I just don't know, like you said, I think it's too big for his britches. I don't know where

Bryson gets the confidence just because he's hitting the ball really far to talk about Tiger Woods like that, regardless of if it's a joke or not. I don't know. I just think that It's crazy to me that Bryson can flip-flop between like that nerdy psychopath guy and then like this big tough guy because he hits the ball far. And then it's like it goes into his brain. Like it's the way he speaks. It's the type of language he uses now. Like it completely takes over his whole brand, quote unquote. And this is just one of them.

It also is very funny though. Like it's a very funny brand. I've said that from the beginning. So I don't know. And I've been flip-flopping on Bryson since the day I laid my eyes on him. on that fucking weirdo. I don't know. Even in this little sentence I'm saying right now,

I don't know if I like it or I hate it. I do not understand. I don't understand anything about Bryson. It has to be a joke, like the more I think about it too, because if it's not, like his whole, like Twitch thing when he was talking about like respect

and everything like that would just go, it would just completely flip-flop in his own mind. But yeah, I mean, he is the talk of the town, but you can't poopoo tiger. It's just a crazy league. I could just like, I could see his brain going there in real time, right? Like, he's up there in his presser being like,

how far was Tiger hitting? He's like, yeah, he said it about 320, 3.20, which like for his age, that's pretty good. You know, I could see his pain just sort of like putting words out in real time that he doesn't necessarily mean to put out, you know? Right. He's like reading like it's an Excel sheet, like it's a data point. Like he doesn't know how to communicate.

So he's just like, well, the line item says that Tiger drove it, an average of 321.8 yards. So that's pretty good for his age. He has a positive delta towards, you know, like. He also might know the statistics, and he's, like, looked at the driving distances for 40. And he's like, that is good for his age. Like, it's almost an indisputable fact.

When you read it on that Rex Hoggart tweet, it looks like a chirp because that's how everyone reads it. But he might just be like, no, I've looked at the data. And those distances for a guy of that age, that's pretty good. Yeah. I think that's exactly right. That's how I take it. He is like a robot.

He's like, no, I have now, I have put these words together that take into account all of the data and I have just put them to you in the press conference. And now that is how I have expressed the information, which actually is true. And in reality, it's like, dude, you talk about the tiger fucking wood. The guy's the reigning master's champ. He's won three times in the last year and a half. He's the greatest player ever played the game. He's got 15 majors.

You have zero. He's got 82 wins. You have like six. And so, you know, I think that another tweet that I saw was that when Tiger Woods was Bryson de Chambos age, he actually held all four majors at the same time. And Bryson doesn't have any of it. So it's like on some level, you can't really be chirping Tiger. But I do think it came off way more of a chimp than Bryson meant it because he's just spewing data. And he probably is right that for 44 years old, those numbers are probably amazed.

for a guy who doesn't I can't tell if he likes attention he only likes the attention that he brings to himself for the most part which is what the whole cameraman thing was about he didn't like that they stayed on for so long he kind of can't get out of his own way with comments like this too like he like lurch had alluded to him on that live stream afterwards where he said some strange things and now he just for a guy who doesn't like attention it seems he says the wrong things at the wrong time Yeah, and he does it a lot. And it just kind of gets him into bad spots, especially with PR. He does not know how to get himself out of those spots ever. And this is probably just one of those. Bryson had more comments to say on distance.

If you recall, we talked all about our boys' slumbers. And the RNA, the royal and ancient commenting on the distant situation, they in the USDA are clearly going to do something about it once everything settles and kind of golf in the world gets back a little bit more back to normal. but Bryson said no matter what rules they give me, I'm going to try to do my best to maximize my athletic ability. They can't take working out away from me. I know that.

That's such a meathead thing to say. The most meathead thing you can say is like, well, you can do whatever you want to the ball, I can do what you want to the equipment, you can do what you want to the courses, but you can't take my gym away from me. No, you can't take my dumbbells, so you shut up. This is a funny thing.

You know, you know who's going to have the greatest day of the year when Bryson inevitably injures himself, that's going to be our boy Brandl-Shambly. Like, the way that they take working out away from you is you're going to get hurt because this is just not sustainable. Like swinging at the ball like he did in his own little personal simulator thing there with the net, that's not sustainable.

Working out like he does and going out beat out, like the thrust and the stress and the velocity, all that puts on your body is not sustainable. Tiger Woods proved that, the fact that he's had four back surgeries and a million other shirt injuries, that coming out and swinging that way is not sustainable. So the way that they're going to take working out away from you,

Bryson, is you're just going to get hurt. That's obviously going to happen. Hopefully it doesn't. Like, I don't think anybody ever roots for anyone to get hurt, except for maybe Brandel, because he's been dying on that hill for a long time that people that work out too much bulk up, that it's the exact opposite of the effect that they want to have.

We, of course, had the moment where Rory jerked back at him about how he does it to prevent injury and all this stuff. So there's a lot of history there. But then he went on to say, Bryson, which I think this part's actually spot on. If they roll the ball back, there's still going to be a percentage of difference. Even if it gets rolled back, there's still going to be a gap. Whether it's closer now, it is what it is. I'm not really worried about it.

I'm just going to keep trying to make these athletic gains so that I can be the best golfer that I can possibly be. I think that's true. He's just going, I mean, the athletic part of that. But it is true that if they dial it back, he's still going to hit a part of their deal. Yeah, you just shift it. Yeah. So he's driving it, I don't know, 320 and others now are topping out at 280, like, or 300. I don't know, whatever the case is.

But, yeah, I just can't see it sustainable. I mean, like, he has defended it, but, like, the one kind of, like, caveat that you keep giving Bryson is, like, he's so into, like, science and process and everything that he's defended to be like, no, they haven't bulked up in this way. Like, I've built up my, like, lower half so it can sustain, sustain my top half. So that is the one like caveat, like, is it so sure that he's going to get injured? Because we've seen other guys get injured when we go through this madness. But that is the one thing is like, is he have enough like glue to hold it all together? Because, yeah, like to me in that basement, when he's just ripping him in the tent, he's like wasting swings.

Like his body is only going to be able to ball the ball 350 times when you launch everything in your willpower at the golf ball. And when you're just ripping 100 golf balls and doing that for like a world. worthless effort. Like that makes no sense. So I am, I'm like, you know, yeah, he's sure. You shouldn't talk like, you know, the tiger that way. Maybe it was just a data set. But like he is just an interesting, interesting point of golf these days and power to him.

Because I can't wait to see how it plays out. Like Bryson's 26 now. There's no way when Bryson's like Kevin Kisner's age when he's 34, 35, that he's swinging like that, right? No. Unless he like figures out some sort of like gelatin. him to put into his back, like, and scientifically restructures his entire spine or else it's never going to work.

No, it can't. And I guess this is just the latest, like, the reason he's doing this is because guys are hitting the ball so far and, like, you can tear up courses that way. If they do somehow dial back, I don't know how they would end up doing it, but he's just going to go to the next best, the next thing. Like, right now, it's distance. If you can hit it super fucking far, you can go super low and have a really good chance of winning.

But if they dial stuff back, then he'll have to figure out. the newest facet of the game that he can, you know, go after that's going to give him the best chance. So I think, I mean, I agree with you guys. I don't think it's sustainable, especially the weight gain happens so fast. Like, that's a big part of it. If he had gradually done this, then maybe you have a better chance of doing it. But I don't care how strong your legs are, your trunk is. Like, if you just gain 40 pounds in three months, your body is going, what the fuck is happening?

And I can't keep doing this. So that's a big part. So the distance situation will see how it all kind of shakes down Jack Nicholas with with some some interesting, you know, responses in a classic old guy move with the Justin's situation where he texted J.T. right before he flights the golf, you know, congratulations after he made the 50-foot butt. And then J.T. lost the tournament, which he didn't realize until he was in the air. I mean, as much as I want to, we've made fun of Jack for his age on this show before. That's no secret. We've ribbed him a little bit.

And as much as I want to say, like, LOL, like, this is something my dad would do with an iPhone. Who among us thought Colin Moracow was going to make that 24 foot punt? Almost nobody. But it is very funny that he was like, the thought of him sending off that text being like, oh, yeah, he definitely won. And then hitting 10,000 feet in the airplane and getting a bunch of texts and a bunch of responses about how Colin Morcao came back and won the whole thing. I've had a similar situation, not like nothing too bad. bad. But like, if you ever send out a tweet or if you put out a blog right before you get on an airplane and you don't know what the response is going to be like, like I said, I've never done

anything too bad. But as soon as you hit that 10,000 feet mark and the Wi-Fi kicks in, you're just waiting for your phone to blow up being like, you're canceled. It's just over for you. So I can, you know, I understand what Jack's going through in that respect. And also it's like when you're watching something on delay. I always feel like I'll watch like an islander game on delay and then I'll tweet out. Like I know I'm not watching the cable vision or like the cable stream. I'll be like, oh, goal. And then like, I'm always thinking in the back of my head, like, the game could be, they, there, two goals could have been scored since I last tweeted this. So, like, I understand that, you know, things happen when you're tweeting and when you're

sending out stuff. Like, you know, it just is what it is. And I'm not going to give, I'm not going to give old Jackson the benefit of the doubt for the fact that he made him fixed. You know, he's just, he's getting there. He's getting old. He's doing old people things, like, like congratulating people when they didn't win. And his time is, I mean, I'm not going to say his time's coming. No, I said time's coming, like, to, you know, I don't know. To what? To what?

God, you're in, like, the lighting in your room just turned pitch black. It looks pretty. Looks pretty. You talk about father time that he's coming through? Jack? You know, we're all going to do it at some point. What, getting a home? Let's just make it a little bit more PG.

You might be putting a home soon. Yeah, maybe. Maybe take his phone away from him at this age, right? He then just texted, oops, was his neck? Yeah, it wasn't not a great recovery, I will say, from Jack. I was thinking about this. If you're JT. You know, if you're a T, you just lost the tournament, you're a rattle.

Oh, boy. That is the thing if Riggs is on to, like, the cell service, because it'll catch it and it'll remember what it said. so if you try to speak up like Trent did there, then just zaps through. Yeah. What I was going to say... I can hear you got perfect right off.

What I was going to say is, I was wonder if it ever gets, if J.T. ever gets used to getting text from Jack Nicholas or getting a text from Tiger Woods. I know that he's a great golfer in his own right, but it can never become normal to get back to the locker room after he lost to call Morcala. And just to look at his phone and it says Jack Nicholas on it,

that's got to be so strange. It'd be bizarre. It'd be like, definitely in an echelon getting that text. Like nobody gets that text from Jack Nichols, but like, yeah, it's got to be pretty, pretty weird from him and his own course and you're like, plus you're just defeated at that point. And then he's got to be, and the one you see is oops because he sent the wrong congratulations text.

Like, what a weird world. At 10,000 feet in his private jet. It's like, all right, Jack, get the hell out of my face. The oomps is really bad. It'd be, it'd be incredible if the only text he had sent him was oops. Like JT might have thought that when he looked at his phone And why did Jack just text me oops after I lost this tournament? It's bizarre, man.

Can you guys hear me right now? Yeah, you're golden. Oh, wow, that feels good. Jack also had a pretty, I kind of like this comment. This is almost like a Tiger-type comment where they asked around moving the T-up once on the 14th hole at Mirfield for the memorial. And he just said, you know, yeah, I have no problem with you do that one day. And then he said, I've actually made three twos on that hole.

So it's kind of, I mean, when you're the greatest, that's kind of a sweet comment, I guess. On Jack, the greatest? I mean, that was kind of crazy. Well, when you've got the most majors of all time. Wow. I didn't know if you really switched your stance. I didn't know one way or another. Like, whatever the hell you are.

I've said this several times. I think that I think Tiger Woods played the greatest golf of all time, but I think clearly Jack Nicholas has had the greatest career of all time. Who's the greatest? Tiger Wood. Okay. Glad we can move on now. Yeah, I mean, you get to send those texts.

Like, yeah, I've actually made two-toos on that hole. Yeah, I mean, that's just getting to, you know, swing your bolt, big old hammer around there because you've done it before and not everybody else has. Then, you know, that's what some of the greatest get to do. Some of the greatest, yeah. Some of the greatest. Yeah, really good.

Right. When you're among the crew of the great, yeah, right. Yes. And then Jack also said that he's going to shake hands with a winner. Clearly he's not a Corona guy. I think he's been a well-documented, you know, supporter of our current president as well. So I think that him also being like, yeah, no,

we're just going to shake hands. Like, what's the issue is not overly surprising? And I also don't hate it because all, like, the interviews even, I think, are a little ridiculous when they're doing these social distancing in the interviews because they all have to get tested to be there. So, like, you can't, you literally can't be there unless you've tested negative for like corona.

So it's almost like they're just doing it for optics anyways. And so if everybody that has to be on site has already tested negative for coronavirus, and yeah, of course, Jack Nichols is going to shake the winter's hand on the 18th green. I didn't think that was particularly surprising. I guess the only flip side would that would be would like, because it does somehow sneak in. It's been sneaking in these last couple weeks, like, from the beginning, I know they switched the protocols and all that, but like Wadney had it, Cameron Champ supposedly had it,

but it might have been a false positive. Yeah, I mean, but you're right. For the most part, everyone has been tested. So if you're shaking hands with somebody, I don't think it's going to be that big of a deal. I do think it's funny that, like, the reasoning behind why Jack wants to, I know that it's like ceremonious and like it's what they've been doing, but it's really just for the supercut.

It's for the super cut of all the handshakes every year. They show that every year once the memorial's on, and it's just going to be him shaking hands with people. so that he just didn't want an elbow bump, I guess. I don't know. I kind of like the bumps and, like, the photos of social disdating. And with masks on and stuff, because it's like, oh, that was that year. It's a reflection of the time.

I feel the same way even about, like, even at certain parts, still classic and stuff. People are like, oh, yeah, can you take, like, your mask off? I'm like, actually, like, keep them on. This is kind of a, exactly. You'll remember, like, oh, that was during that year, 2020, that we kind of had that. It's a reflection of the time. Yeah, like remember when Tiger had to elbow Jack Nicholas after he won the Memorial in 2020. I also was loving the handshake with Tiger and Jack.

I think it was in, what, 2012 or 2013 when Tiger hold that crazy shot on 16. And then he goes up and clearly when they shake hands, Tiger does a like towering over you move and brings, it comes right into Jack and he's like, looks like he's a foot taller to Jack. I thought that was such a power move by Tiger. It was a power move. And then Joe Likava, before we get into front of the gallery, Joe Likava with just kind of some funny comments saying that he did, quote, fuck all for the first couple months of quarantine,

said he just got deep into the Netflix game. And then said that he and Tiger have only exchanged a few texts and the Tiger just kind of left him alone, which is hilarious phrasing. But I guess when that's your boss, it's probably a little bit different. But yeah, they just exchanged a few texts, left him alone, and Joe Lacava come out and said he did fuck all. And then eventually he started playing a lot of golf last couple months when the weather got nice in Connecticut. So good for Joe.

Speaking of Tiger Woods and just Netflix games, I watched a movie last night, not to take a too off topic, but it kind of all goes back together. Molly's game, you guys ever watched this fucking movie? Oh, man. I'm so glad you guys haven't watched it because this is a must-watch movie recommendation by Mee. it is about this girl that ran these like underground poker games and she wrote a book and it basically like the most powerful people in the world went like and she won't name any of the people. The only people that like you know of were four names that were set in a deposition when she was brought in. She was like with the FBI and the CIA and all this shit.

I'm talking like Alex Rodriguez is in there Toby McGuire, Leonardo DiCaprio, Alex Rodriguez. Oh, did I say Alist Rodriguez? I'm talking like the biggest people, Ben Affleck. all these people were in these games playing $100,000 games. And I know for a fact that our guy Tiger had to have. Now I don't know for a fact. I'm going to guess that our guy Tiger was in the mix on some of those. And like to know that he may have been in there or like guys of his stature were playing these games.

Imagine playing poker against Tiger Woods who like may have the best poker face intimidating, like features about him of all time, like that dead stare when he's like on the, on the green watching you try and accomplish the game of, like. try and beat him at the game of golf, and he gives you that look, and he makes you shrivel into less of a human being. Whatever the species is, less than a human being, that's what you feel like when you're facing Tiger Woods.

Imagine that on the felt out of poker table, where he goes all in and he just stares at you across the fucking room. Now, I don't know that Tiger Woods was involved in this. I'm just saying the way I watched that movie, I pictured Peak Tigers sneaking into the back of these rooms, playing games for hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's all I'm saying. If I were in those poker games, I would want to find myself in that situation.

Because I, you know how you watch Tiger on TV all the time? I would love to get the Tiger fucking death stand. It's just like it feels like you're getting pulled in onto a golf course, but you're just playing poker with them. I would like to experience that, actually. Watch this movie. Tiger. Watch it.

Tiger would make me fold every time. Same. Same. I would have. You have a flush and it's like the cards are all flipped and your money's on the pop, you're just getting awful. I would fold the nuts. A full boat.

Yeah, nuts. They use that in Molly's game. People fold the nuts because some of these powerful guys are just stare at them and be like, what are you going to do? It's like, ah, shit, I'm out. No pair. This movie has some cast.

Jessica Chastain, Idris Elba, Kevin Kass, Kevin Kossom. I've heard of it. I've never watched it. Didn't the real life bust happen just a couple of years ago? I think it was like not too long ago, yeah. I wonder if it's probably worse than the son of a woman,

but maybe pretty good. On Netflix, I think everyone right now should go and watch it tonight. I think it's that good of a movie, honestly. All right, I'm going to do that tonight. Based on Rotten Tomatoes, it's not even close to the sentiment of it. Does it not have a good round of the game score? What's it got? It's got 7.4 and then 82%.

That's pretty good. Audience score or critic? I don't go by that. I don't go by that. I'm just on Google. It just gives you a little rundown. Okay. Are you 400 years old?

I mean, Senator woman has 80% on Rotten Tomato. I'm looking at, I'm trying to look up Molly's game for the audience score because you have to go by the audience. I'll show you out of order. That's the one that trusts. 84% audience score.

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All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are joined for, what, third or fourth time, probably? probably by a very special guest, our good buddy, the Minnesota Vikings, Mr. Kyle Rudolph, big country. Where are you at there? You back home? You up in many? Yeah, we're in Minneapolis at home. I just got back from the American Century Tournament out of Lake Tahoe. So talk to us about this tournament. This tournament looked awesome. Yeah, the tournament was awesome. My game was awful. But I didn't come in last. I beat Charles Barkley, so that's kind of my only goal going into the week. is not coming in last.

And technically, last year I came in 71st. This year I came in 66. So I figured about 13 years from now, I'll be taking the crown from Marty Fish and being the champion at the American Century. Maybe you're spiraling out of control from your lost match to me. Maybe you just haven't got back on the saddle

ever since you lost that roll, re-roll game that we played at Wysetta. Yeah, and they wouldn't even take my money. Like, they go out there and I think both Frankie and they go out there and make birdie or net birdie, gross birdie on the last hole and don't take our money when we roll them and re-roll them. So, yeah, they got out of there before even I can even give them my money. It's all good.

It was good times. But what we were actually talking about when we played that round at in Minnie, it was like, the difference in stepping in between the ropes and playing in front of like, you know, you have cameras and you're playing a tournament style golf event. Like what it, it's instant nerves, right? I mean, it's completely different than stepping up at your local country club and just team up with the boys. Oh, no doubt.

You know, so for me, I played a practice round on Wednesday and, you know, you're in between the ropes, but it doesn't matter. So go out and play really well. I was really excited where my game was going into the weekend. It's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday tournament. And I was, you know, just off the fairway on hole number one. I was on 10, so I was on the back going off. But there's water left in the green on number 10 at Edgewood Resort.

And I don't think I've pulled a ball in like three months. Like my miss is always right. And so I aim right for the middle of the green, assuming that it's going to go right of the green, but it's not going to go in the water. And sure enough, first hole, I pull. it like 30 yards left in the water and I'm like okay this is how this weekend's going to go and pretty much that was the case for the next three days if there was water my ball found it it's it's not a long golf course I think we play it at like 6,500 yards and you're at altitude

as well so it's everything's like 10% further but you it's very straight I mean if you're off the fairway a bit. You're in evergreen trees. There's water around a lot of green greens. So it kicked my ass for three days straight. How do you, how do you get, do you get really geared up? Are you grinding on the range leading up to this? I mean, you guys are. I think that was our problem. So one of my good buddies from home caddied for me. And this summer, I'm actually taking some classes at Notre Dame to finish my undergrad. So out there it was, because it's on Eastern time at Notre Dame and my classes are in the morning. So I think I finished class at like 9 a.m. out there. And my practice round started at

9.30. So for the practice round, I immediately just booked it over from class on my Zoom call. Literally walked to the range, took my, you know, COVID scan, did all that stuff to make sure I was good. They gave me my wristband and I went straight to the first. teeth. And again, like I said, I played pretty well in my practice round. And then that was on Wednesday. On Thursday, I didn't play a full round. I just went and hit some balls at the rain. And I think that's where I screwed everything up. Like, I went to the range for like 30, 45 minutes and we're grinding over some shots and then all hell broke loose. The next three days, it was just all downhill. It's amazing how fast it can get away from you. It's just incredible. I couldn't agree

more. I pulled a pitching wedge, like 45 yards left. the other day just out of the blue. And then the whole round is just shot because you're like, I don't even know what's going to happen next when I hit the golf ball. And you're making these like mini adjustments. And then you're shanking it off the hosel. Like I feel badly for you because you can get so confident and have that wad the way so fast.

That's exactly what I did on number one. Or again, I keep, I'm not good. So I was going off. I was going off 10. All the bums would go off 10. All the good guys would go off one. So the second day going off 10, I hit my drive in the exact same spot.

And out there, I hardly hit driver. I hit like three iron and five iron a lot off the T's. Just because, again, you're at altitude and it's not a super long golf course. So I hit my five iron to the exact same spot, had the exact same club in my hand. And this time I hit it off the hosel. Right. So pulled the first one left into the water. The second day, I hit it off the hosel left.

And I didn't even know there was water left. I went that far. and so it was all over the place. I love that your buddy's caddying for you too. So you just start like hocking them clubs. You're like, you idiot. How'd you let that happen? And then we were like blind people on the greens.

I mean, he'd go and look at the putt, he'd be like, yeah, I think it's going right to left. I'm like, well, great, because I thought it was going left to right. So we'll just put it right at the middle, yes. Firm at the middle. Lake Tahoe looks like a must go-to for any, like, vacation or especially golf. like I saw you were posting, you were able to bring the family. You guys are in cabin.

You got black bears or whatever the hell of those things were behind you guys rolling up to the cabin. What's that? It was wild. So my wife and my best friend's wife, they went out the one morning for just, you know, took the kids. They were going out for a walk with the stroller. And it was literally the house across the street from us.

So they walk out of the driveway. They make the left to start going down the hill to walk into town. And all of a sudden I get a phone call for my wife. Like I said, I'm up early. I'm on my class. And she's like, there's a bear outside. And there's signs everywhere that say, like, lock your doors, like, don't leave food outside. Like, they're, beware of black bears.

And, you know, you never think you're actually going to see one. But sure enough, it was 25 yards from our front door, sitting in the neighbor's yard. And it had its back to us. So it looked like it was just eating garbage or whatever, like going through. through the trash. Later, we found out that it was actually just licking its cubs. So it was a mama bear with two cubs. Oh, you're in real trouble.

You're in real trouble with that. You don't mess with mama bear. So probably not the smartest thing in the world. But, you know, of course, we all grab our phones and we're trying to zoom and get close enough to get a good picture, but not too close where you can't run and get back inside the house in a hurry. So it was just wild. I mean, you know, like I remember walking kind of around the street a little bit.

And, you know, the picture that I posted on Instagram was, you literally just see this. The bear's head was like this big around. And then they ended up leaving the yard and walking right up next to our house up the hill. And apparently it came back the next day at like 1.30. We were over at the course. But it's like they're domestic animals there. They just kind of come and go as they please. Yeah, it's nuts.

It's absolutely. I just like to look at that photo. That photo is crazy. Right. And imagine that I'm looking at me. I'm like so eatable. It's crazy. Right.

Like they're not going to mess with Kyle probably. Right? Like he's big enough, but they would just rip you to shreds, Frank. They might look at Kyle like he's one of their own. They'll look at Frank. A little piece of meat to eat on the side, little fish. You got a...

You just got to be faster than anyone that's around you because once they get one person, they're good. So as long as you're not the slowest person, and you're good. You got 3M coming up, right? Also. It's crazy that you've talked about this in many,

but like you've gotten yourself into this world where you play these incredible events, and that's got to be the best perk of being a pro athlete, right? If you can somehow sneak into one of these things and do the right, I mean, you're like the man of the year with the NFL, so everyone loves having you around. You're very philanthropic. What's the word there?

What philanthropic? Philanthropic. I'm not good with words here, Kyle. I'm not, I tried so hard to keep that rolling, but I couldn't. I knew I was up on a hot streak there for a second. Whenever I say like a sentence for a minute straight, you know that inside my brain, I'm just like running down a hill trying not to tumble over it. But yeah, so talk to us about like that whole like little world of, you know,

getting them invited to these places and playing in these tournaments. Yeah, it's as a golf fan, it's incredible because, you know, I had the opportunity through the Walter Payton Man in the year. that title sponsor nationwide. Last year I got to play in the Memorial Pro-Am, and that was the first prime I ever played in. And I think I told you this story when we were playing out here in Wizzetta.

So I'm going up to the first T, and I'm with Ernie Ells. My dad's on the bag. He drove up from Cincinnati, and there's, you know, however many thousand people are there for the pro-am. Well, Peyton and Tiger went out. They were the first group.

So however many thousand people were on the course, they were pretty much all following that group. So, you know, for me, I'm on the range. There's absolutely no one around. Start making our way over to the first T. Same thing. There's no one around. So I'm like, okay, perfect. Like, at least I'll be able to get off the first T.

And I won't have 10,000 people watching. And sure enough, Peyton and Tiger come walking up the ninth green, finish the ninth green, and they're on 10T when I'm on one T. and as you know, like 1T goes like this, 10 T goes like this. So however many people were on the golf course, were then standing there on 1 and 10, and they weren't there to see me, but in between watching Peyton and Tiger,

they're like, oh, well, let's watch this guy here. So then they're all eyes on me, and thankfully I hit a good T shot on one, but you're literally standing there over the ball with all those people, and you're like, A, don't kill someone, and B, just make solid contact. Like, who cares where it goes? Don't leave it on the T-box.

So that was my first, like, real pressure shot. And, like, people talk about the pressure of the first T all the time. And it's real, even for someone who it means absolutely nothing, too. Like, I'm not there to make a single dollar and earn a living. I'm just trying to have a good time. And then so being able to do the 3M1 is cool, too. Unfortunately, the PGA just announced that they're not doing any of the pro-am. So I won't be able to play.

wasn't able to play a memorial this week and obviously not able to play at the 3M next week, but I am still able to be around. And I think actually one of the days next week I get to be inside the ropes and walk around and interview some of the guys. And you know, you look at the guys that have already committed to the 3M and Brooks, DJ. I know Tony Fienow, obviously Matthew Wolf is the reigning and inaugural champion at the 3M. So all kinds of big names. and golf are coming out to the Twin Cities. And it'll be awesome. You know, it's unfortunate we're in this world right now where there's no live

spectators. But I think it'll be really cool to be able to tune in on the days that I'm not out there working and watch those guys play. Of course, that's here in town. For sure, man. It's going to be awesome. I love that whole world. And I love when, you know, we put these guys and we talk about this where like, these

pro ams people go there and they're like giddy to like watch some golf and they line the fairways and they line behind the greens right and it's just like you have absolutely not saying that you are but you have like hacks like swinging swinging these gloves and just drilling balls into these crowds like i mean i can't imagine the fact that they line these fairways as if it's tiger woods hitting a golf shot like at any given time any of us could murder someone out there and like there you have 20 handicaps 15 handicaps playing in front of thousands of people. No doubt. And another story from the Morial last year, I'm on 18 fairway, and it kind of like wraps around those bunkers, and then there's all that high rough along the

right side up on top the hill. And, you know, Jack grows that rough as high as he possibly can. He wants to penalize those guys if they're not in the fairway. And I go up, find my ball, and, you know, you literally can't see your shoes in the rough. It's so thick. And yet, there's thousands of fans just standing right next to me and then lining the whole rope to the hole. And so I'm standing over the ball. I think I had like an eight iron or something in my hand and going to try to chuck it out and get it up as close to the green as we can. And my dad, who I said was on the bag, he walks, I mean, he was, hold on stop. Like, you're not hitting this shot.

He's like, guys, you have to back up. Like, we have no idea where this ball is going. I know, you know, tomorrow and the rest of the weekend, you can stand. this close to a gocker. But right now, you know, you got to scoop back because we have no idea where this thing is going. And I was able to get it out and get it up kind of close to the green, but it is crazy. And I got to play at Pebble this year before the AT&T. And same thing. You're on that first tee. And there's just people lining the left side of that tee box like, oh, no doubt, this guy's going to hit it right down the middle. Like, don't even worry about it. And you see more

people ducked and hit the floor in a hurry during the pro-am. It's pretty funny. Isn't that amazing about golf that if you know literally no one is watching, if you know that for a fact, then you have zero nerves. And if you sense one person at like a restaurant two holes over is watching UT off, it affects every part of during years. Really good. Seriously, like you could be at your local club and someone's sitting outside the clubhouse and, you know, now they're watching you tee off number one or, you know, sitting at the clubhouse watching you hit your approach shot on 18 and you know there's one set of eyes on you and you're like,

man, don't screw this up, don't screw this up. Hit a good shot. Dude, we got a little taste of that when we played Kisner at Pioneers number two. There was like, there was obviously that big setting right by the first tee and people came out to watch and it was like the most nerve-wracking thing I've ever done in my life. I know I've said it before, but I couldn't get the point. ball in the teeth. Like, I thought I was just going to have to get back on, like, a plane and go home. It's incredibly nerve-wracking. You're doing something you're not, like, really good at, right?

I'm terrible. I'm saying for us, like, we're not comfortable because we don't know what the hell we're doing out there. And especially for Kyle, he's a professional football player. He's not paid to play golf. So, like, going out there, there's a little more nerve-wracking when you're not doing your activity, your sport, the thing that you can do with your eyes closed. So. I know, I have so much respect for those guys on tour, like, you know, not only playing in front of the fans and having that pressure, but, you know, grinding over strokes, weekend and week out, making cuts, you know, the difference in hundreds of thousands of dollars by, you know, three to five shots a weekend. It's just, I can't imagine that kind of pressure. And, you know,

they would say the same thing. Like, I have no idea how you go across the middle and catch a ball, but I don't even think about it. And, you know, those guys, it's the same way. When they're standing over a six-foot put, they're not even thinking about it. When they're standing over a ball on the first seat. They know exactly where it's going to go most of the time. They're not even worried about it. Did Rick just roll up to Pioneers? I think he might have.

He's been traveling across North Carolina's full time. Is he back at Pioneers, right? If there's a low people clapping, like he's back in the Carolina Hotel right now? No, no, no, no. I tried to keep it as low-key as possible. Sure. Thank you very much.

I got to say thank you to the Uber driver. Thank you. Sorry about the call the whole time. I apologize. that. Thank you. Classian. That's nice. I would be good a standing evasion. I'm in the middle of my podcast.

I'm surprised you're not crying upon arrival. It's crazy. Good, brother. All right. Good. Great to see you. Thank you. Appreciate it. King has returned.

He has returned. I got a friend of just call. Give me two seconds. Oh, my God. I'm back. Oh, my God. You can hear the footsteps. They're all rumaging from the rooms.

They're sprinting. They're ringing the bells. The bell is ringing in Pinehurst, North Carolina right now. Rick says, Rocking chair. I'm just everything's great. We're doing wonderful. How are you guys?

Wow. Can't beat it. God. It feels nice. This is actually different. I'm at the Manor Inn, which is different than the Carolina. So it's a little uncomfortable for me, fellas.

Tom Rudolph. Have you ever been to Pinehurst? I have not been to Pinehurst. my kids have Pinehurst gear. So Mike and Mike, Mr. Golick, Mike Jr., I think they do a charity event down there every year at Pinehurst. And Mikey Jr. is the godfather to one of my daughters.

So he always hooks him up with Pinehurst gear. So the kids got a bunch of Pinehurst gear, but I need to get down and play at some point. I should have a better connection because I just automatically connected to the Wi-Fi right away, so that's nice. Oh, yeah, Kyle, you said you're taking classes. How's that?

What's that been like? What's it like being back in school? Man, it's, I took a 10-year hiatus. So I finished school or left early in 2010. And then because of the pandemic, obviously everybody went to online classes in the spring. And then Notre Dame decided to do their summer session as well online. So I still have a long way to go. I'm taking six credits this summer.

That leaves me with 30 more left. So it'll be a steep climb. And who knows if I'll ever finish. but I just felt like I would have regret the opportunity to take classes online this summer. And it worked out perfectly. It was like the six weeks in between when our virtual offseason ended and, you know, when we're supposedly supposed to go back to training camp here in a week. So I wrap those up next week.

But being back in class was an adjustment. Like the sitting in class part is easy, but the workload that comes outside of class that you forget about. Right. So it's, it's been good. I feel like I'm a different student at 30 than I was at 18, 19, and 20. Maybe I have a little better appreciation to learn, whereas when I was 18, 19, and 20,

it was just about staying eligible for football. So I wouldn't get in trouble. So maybe I'm learning a little bit more than I would have when I was back in school. Are you like in classes that you like at all? Are there classes you genuinely want to learn? Is it just like most people, most athletes, where you're just like, whatever I got to check the box off, let's do that. Yeah, so basically it's just for this summer, it was whatever classes worked with my schedule.

So in the mornings, I have a theology class. So I know what I mean, you have to take two theologies to graduate. I took my first one as a freshman and, you know, they're electives. So you pretty much can pick between whatever theology classes you wanted. And there was a theology of marriage and family. So I'm 30 years old. I'm married with three kids. and I'm in this theology of marriage class with a bunch of college kids.

So it's quite entertaining. The priest who is the professor, he loves me. He loves my wisdom that I bring. I loves my real life experience. So that one's cool because, like I said, it's me and a bunch of college kids. And we're learning basically my life, you know, my entire Catholic. You're like, I have the family. Like, I'm doing what we're learning.

exactly so that one's cool and then my other one is a finance class it's a macro class kind of on the world economy so that one's a grind that one's a lot harder so you guys start you guys start camp like in about a week are you supposed to is that it for golf do you do you keep playing when you're in camp or no no so usually the end of july when you know we report to training camp That's when the clubs get hung up. And, you know, hopefully I'm not picking up again until mid-February when we go back down to South Florida. So maybe that's part of the reason why my golf game is so inconsistent. I take six months off every year.

But it's just hard. Yes, I could go and hit balls for 30 minutes or an hour while the weather is still decent in Minnesota. But especially in training camp and stuff, you know, you get a day off once a week or so. and the kids are so excited to see you and spend time with you. It's hard for me to justify just going up a hitting balls, although my three-year-olds love going to the range now. So maybe I'll be able to get them out and go hit balls for a little while because they enjoyed going it.

So who knows, maybe I'll be able to get the clubs out a few times this year and get balls. How is your training at all been different because everything that's going on? Like, is there a certain level of uncertainty that seeps into everything that you do because you're just not sure how things are going to play out, or has it been pretty much the same? Yeah, you know, there's definitely a level of uncertainty. I tried to compare it to 2011.

We had the lockout and, you know, there was no off-season. So, you know, for me, I played my last game at Notre Dame. Then you do all the pre-draft training. Then we were drafted and then there was no rookie minicamp, no OTAs, no vet mini-camp. Just end of July, we got the phone call to report to training camp. But the thing that's different about, this year as opposed to that year was, you know, that year you could still go see your trainer or go to a local gym, like whatever you had to do to stay in shape.

Whereas this year, all that was shut down for an extended period of time. So for a couple days, you know, you had to get creative, whether that was push-ups, sit-ups, you know, old school before you were able to get to the high school weight room, what you did around the house type exercises. And then coincidentally, I got, it's a piece of exercise equipment called Tonal. It's T-O-N-A-L. And I actually got it for my wife. It's super incredible. You know, you can really much do every exercise that you want on this. It looks like the mirror. The mirror is more advertised, so people know more about that.

But this is basically the mirror with two Kaiser arms. so you can do resistance training as well. And we got that installed two days after kind of the stay-at-home order was placed in Minnesota. And so I ended up working on that for like eight weeks while all the gyms were closed. And now the exos downtown at the Timberlost facilities back open, so I'm able to get in there. As far as running goes, I just found a park here where we live in Wizzetta. And I go early in the morning kind of before anyone's there, especially in my. March and April when like Tom Brady was getting kicked out of parks in Tampa.

You know, if I got there before the workers got there, it was going to be okay and I wouldn't get kicked out. And then as the workers started trickling in, they, they left me alone and I was able to work out there. So the biggest thing that I tried to do is, you know, whatever we would normally be doing, you know, as the calendar goes, I tried to just imitate that as best as possible. So, you know, if we were going to be in the offseason phase one where it's just running and lifting doing those runs as we got into practice making sure that my volume of runs was similar to what I'd be doing in practice. So I'm not going to lie, as a guy going into year 10 having an opportunity like this to kind of refresh, recharge, get completely

healthy from last season, I feel really good physically heading into training camp this year. It's huge. That's huge because usually Kyle Rudolph's always my tight end in fantasy football. So I'm really excited to have him return this year to the Dirty Metal Boys. What's my team name? The Denerius Targaryens or Demarius Targaryens. I'm sure there's nothing pro athletes love hearing about more fantasy football. You should be, you should tweet Adam. You should tweet Adam and be like, Kyle. I mean more good week this year. I'm pretty sure one time I put up an Instagram story of my team and he reached out

the meeting being like let's go like yeah let's get in let's let's win this this year i'm like holy shit let's win it's go he was in a he was in a contract year one of as many canadiancy possible oh man i really appreciate you coming on here kyle and i'm looking forward to you having a big year this year hopefully everything goes smoothly with the with the different rules and coronavirus and stuff hopefully you guys get the kick off uh on right on time this year and um you know i'll always be a big fan. Thank you guys. Always a pleasure to hang out and chat and talk some golf. There you go. Likewise. Thanks, man. We'll appreciate your, we'll play some golf after February of next year in South Florida. Kyle and if you know. First, I'll let you to pine nurse if I have to.

Hey, let me know. All right. Sounds good. We definitely got to get together next soft season and play some golf. Yep. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, you bet. Several folks have asked me many, many times over, What are those sunglasses that you are rocking? The answer is Shady Ray's. They're an independent sunglasses company. They're not just some big corporation. They're not overcharging for shades like everybody else does. Everybody knows they're overpriced shades all the time.

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I will not get flips. Okay, my dad rock flips. I kind of don't hate the flip-looks. Trent, get flips. What am I a center fielder at, like, at Wrigley Field? Who, like, flipping them down for a pop-up. I'm just a guy walking around the street, but I like the way sunglasses look. People look awesome with sunglasses, but I don't know how to do it when I have these, these glasses.

yeah you've got to go flips or you got to like Shady Ray's at least has like a thick you know nice kind of a bar that goes over your ear so maybe you could try the cover up I don't know glasses on glasses no chance

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I was like, we're going to have to wait until Frankie comes back. His internet connection is 100%. You need the shady raised frames and then just throw your little prescription lenses in there. Okay. All right. I'm going to try that because I like the way sunglasses look, but I just, I've never been able to figure out how I can do it. You need to switch your glasses in general, and I think maybe getting a nice shady raised frame will help you move into that because I've taken pictures of you with those new style glasses on, and it's incredible.

Yeah, people love that look. Okay, all right. Let's move on to the next thing, but I just, I didn't know if you guys had any advice because I want to wear sunglasses. Yeah, maybe you do the cover up. Try Shady Race. Four Play 50. It's a great deal. They got a great warranty. You're going to love them. That was Kyle Rudolph. What a guy. One of the nicer guys. You know, he's a big old tight-in. You know, you'd think this guy could be a big meathead football guy. No, he's just like a gentle giant. He's a super friendly guy. Frankie's played golf with him. We've hung out with him many different times. So it's nice to see. one of my favorite things that I'd said during the round when I played with him was he gave me a putt like on 15 when the match was pretty tight from like a spot that I shouldn't have gotten a put from where he's like no that's good I looked at him just like Walter Payton man in the ear right there it got a nice little chuckle at everyone he's like that's right like he just gave me a good But like he is, he is the Walter Payton Man of the Year.

And he's just a very nice man being. I had a very good time in YZE, very good time. Yeah, he's a great guy. And mid-interview, I did return to Pinehurst. My guy, Dave Goensky, who you guys all know, is getting married this weekend. They had to do kind of a, I guess, a delay on the overall full wedding, but they're doing kind of a small little get together for family, for friends. And I have to pick up all my shit that I left here when I was here for 99 days.

So I'm here for my boy, Dave's wedding. So I did just kind of get back to the piner's in the middle of that whole thing. And I did try to come in. I tried to come in discreetly. I think I did a pretty good job of that. Ran into one person, no crying yet. So that's what happened in the middle of that. You came into screely doing your golf podcast, like yelling about golf.

I love the storyline of Riggs going to Pioneers, leaving, getting a send-off each time, and, like, constantly returning, where it's just like, it's like a constant, a constant hello and goodbye, like a huge thing each time to the point where when he's like 50, they're still doing it. Like, and like some of these people are like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, all right. And passion is like, come on Riggs. And you walk in. Almost like recording a game show each day where they hit like a, like these workers at Pioneers will have like,

an applause button where like it's lights right and they got to run out and clap or it's like like the Truman show where they're all just actors and they have to show. No, my partner is the Truman show. I said that. It is the Truman show. They all did that. Yeah, when I said like the

oh, you know what I said it on? I said it on Matt Janella's podcast, which also was a great podcast. That dude's the man. He was a great guy. He recapped Riggs his 99 days in Pioneers, which also, if we want to talk about that, was a little bit awkward for me and Trent because we wanted to like make fun of it and joke around a little bit because we like you break shit. But he like really found the goodness in that story. And like I could tell that he was really into like how like golf like made it into such an emotional story.

Like he's, because he's a really genuinely nice dude, Matt. Right. So that was a little bit where I was like, ah, he's crying. At one point we were talking so much about the gushy, gushy relationship that you built with Pinders that I just said, when are we going to get to the part where Riggs cries? I was, I listened to it. I was stunned when it got to you guys, you guys said very nice things about me. And I was, when he was like,

we're going to cut in here from Frankie and Trit. I was like, oh, God, there we go. But no, it was very nice. So I appreciate it. Yeah, I referenced the fact that it is like the Truman show where they all play, they all play Piners number two. They all go and get drinks. they all play the cradle, then they all go to the brewery,

and then they all get on the trolley thing that takes you from place to place. And they all go home. It's like, good morning. And if I don't see you later, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. It's the next day over and over again. Yeah. Well, I'm back into that. So I'm pretty excited about that fact.

I'm going Saturday. I'll be returning to our apartment for the first time since mid-March. And then how long are you there for? Well, probably like a week because we got Atlantic City. So I'll just buzz down to Atlantic City for a day. And then back in New York, and then I think our lease is up. So now we're in a weird position.

I don't know what people across the globe are doing, especially if you live in a place like New York City. But our lease is up at the end of July. And it doesn't make sense to get a frickin apartment in New York and pay a million dollars a month because we didn't even have an office that we're going to. So I really don't know what we're going to do. Cool.

Yeah. That's the situation. So if anybody has any... I got sent another video from eBug. I think EBug's trying to send me all the vintifications of Sandgate over here. And I guess in Pynast number two, I was just digging in the earth again. Because I think I genuinely thought that you could do that. Like, I just thought you could be talking.

That's my take. My take is that you just thought you could do it. Not that you're cheating, not that you were trying to pull a fast one, that you just thought you could do it. Yeah. Logan, me and Logan have to have a talk. I just went back and was like, I know, I remember Frankie asking a bunch of times or just saying it before he'd be in a trap. Like, hey, like I'm going to ground my club and nobody would say anything. And he'd be right next to the end.

You were in Tobacco Road too. And that was like the first place where I ever heard that there was no quote unquote bunkers. It was all right. And I remember looking around being like, so you tell me right now I can take a practice swing before I hit this green side bunker shot. And they're like, yop. And I was like, North Carolina is awesome. Like you can, you can like get a feel. for like what it is and then I just did that the rest of the week.

Honestly, yeah, if you're a fucking regular player, you should be able to do it. How many times do you play on these regular golf courses and the sand has the consistency, like you don't know the consistency of the sand where you step up to the sand and it's rock solid beneath the fucking sand, you skull fucking onto the road. You should be able to be like, oh yeah, this is, this is hard. Your evolution during this whole show of at first, like, yeah,

I am fast and loose with the rules. I am like, fuck everyone else that kind of screwed me on this. To now you just believe that what you did is what the rules you should be. I like this. I like this current stage, the best. I like you going against the entire golf world being like, you know what? You should be able to ground your club in a bunker because honestly, that makes the most sense to me. I think in-

I think in corona times you should be able to do it. Oh, now you're using the pandemic to your advantage too. Wow. What else do you want to throw out? In terms of the video, we'd shot in November, so that one doesn't hold as much weight. It's a little different. Well, the only reason I said this,

because I've been taking advantage of the corona rules big time with the lift clean in place because there's no rakes anymore. So I'm able to just walk up to these balls and these bunkers, and I just lift it up and I smooth that and I surface and drop it down. And then someone looks at me, I'm like, oh, that's lifting in place.

Because that's the rule. You're a menace out there. Fun time. All right. I rode an excavator today, and I lifted up dirt, and I swung it around and pushed it places. Yeah. What was your little photo up? What was that come from today?

I went to Knives Creek, aka Rockville Links, their little dump area in the middle of their golf course where they hold all there. So I guess they did a ton of renovations at Rockville, And they bought all their equipment. Usually you'll rent it, right? Because it's like whatever. You may have to just day out a bunker and then whatever you rent it from a company. They do everything in-house. So all their guys, like the super that I go out with,

he actually like builds fucking bunkers and stuff. So I was able to ride these excavators and I was really fucking, you want to talk about fast and loose? You should have seen me on saying, I have a video that I'll probably tweet out tonight just to get people stop talking about the bunker thing. although it actually is funny that I'm like literally scooping out sand in this video so I may write something like I may write something like my next bunker shot or something all right well it'll be it's it's going to be fun to witness and watch the evolution of

your defense of Frankie's bunker gate Frankie Reed whatever we end up calling it because like I said you've had probably four different ones during this show already and it'll just be fun to walk. I guess my final stance is that I know I did the wrong thing in the bunker against the rules, so I'll say that. And I know I went against the rules there, but I also just didn't know that the rules applied at that moment. Okay.

And again, we'll see what that stance is. Like if I was in Patrick Reed's stance, I'd be like, yes, I deserved the penalty, but in my defense, I didn't know at the time that I was going to... So you don't deserve the penalty, but Patrick Reed deserves the penalty. No, like, if I was in a... determine. I'd be like, yes, give me that stroke. Give me the two-stroke penalty. But I want

everyone to know that while I was doing it, I didn't know I'd receive a penalty. Frankie, if Logan was potentially on the phone right now, would you have anything to say with him? Yes. What would you say? I would ask him why he didn't tell me I wasn't allowed to ground my club in that moment. That's what I would have. E-bug has Logan on the phone. Logan. Oh, God. Logan, first of all, I want to talk to. First of all, first of all, first of What? Thank you. So are you saying I didn't do anything wrong? Fucking Logan. I'm telling it. Vindication. Logan is my guy. Can we put that in the beginning?

Yeah, you need to get that on Twitter. Can we get that on the Instagram, please, to our 700,000 people or whatever, follow us? I got to time, no, I got to chime in because this was at number four. People are giving you, people are giving Frankie Shick because it was at number four. Is it any different at number four and two? I'm going to say what you were going to say. I did improve the law because I... It's like everyone's acting like he just brushed the sand five feet next to his ball.

I mean, he moved the sand from behind his golf ball. No, but like, I swear I know what I did. Like, I didn't do that Patrick Reed swipe thing. I just pushed down into it because I always, whenever I hit shots like that, whenever I hit like shots, I put a lot of pressure behind the ball. And I know I did that in the bunker, like, to like, really get behind it and be like, all right, we're going to smack behind this thing.

Because in the practice swings, I'm like, all right, like, let's hit this line. So I kind of, like, made a line when I went behind. So I understand, like, that is improving my life. But the moral of the story is that, like, I was going into it thinking I could just, like, take some slights in the sand. That's the only reason that the club even came close to it

or else it would be, like, I'm always play where I don't touch it. There also be in all these other videos, I'm in the bunker. Oh, no. It's in the video. I mean, it's... It's a waste. Yeah, you know, it's in the video.

There's a shelf. It's a... I think it ended up in proving the line. I don't know that that was my end all goal. That was my end goal when I was doing it. I think I just... I think it was super fluffy sand and I just put that thing... I put that sucker right into the fucking sand.

And when I took it back, there's a huge shelf. I mean, this thing's sitting up on a tee. I mean, I still bladed the ball into the fucking into the sky, so... Logan, is he in the clear? Is he in the clear? Yeah. He's now a cheater again. He always spins himself into a web by just talking too much.

This will be a roller coaster forever. This story will be a roller coaster until the day we're done with this. I mean, the difference is that, like, we weren't playing for anything that matters in the world. So I hope that it doesn't ever become a... Right. I mean... But you're just, like, playing with buddies, like, you'd potentially cheat and just in... prove your lie.

Like, because it doesn't really... But I just said that the intention was just to, like, ground my club. And press down? This is why I hate golf sometimes. Like, the press down, like, that's the difference. Like, I mean, come on. Shout to Logan for coming on. Shout out to Logan.

Thank you, Logan. Thanks, Logan, for getting Frankie in more trouble. I appreciate that. No, no, your intention was ill hard. intentions were pure all right Logan see you see you Logan by the way Logan I'm here so if we want to play golf let me know see you see you buddy

I think that's a great way to end it what a show I don't know where we're at with the Frankie saga but we'll find out thank you to Kyle Rudolph and let's have a good weekend go Tiger hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard hit it hard boys