Fore Play - Full Streamsong Review: “Double transfusion and a 3 putt, please”

Episode Date: April 24, 2018

We have a FULL show this week. An in depth Streamsong Review, headlines, and several From The Galleries with the whole crew. Is it a hardo move to rock blade irons? How big of a life event would you m...iss to play a bucket list course? Would you miss your brother's wedding to play Augusta? Is Sergio more likable for throwing his driver in the woods? This and much more. Let's go.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This episode of 4Play is brought to you by our friends at the Black Tucks. Look, it's golf season. With golf season comes, obviously, wedding season. Now, those of us that have been through wedding season and all that, you know that quite frequently, far too frequently. Sometimes you end up with like two, three, four weddings over the course of like two or three months. Yep.
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Starting point is 00:02:06 We speak for about an hour about stream song. I'm sure you've heard of it. You're wondering, is it as awesome as everybody says, is it worth it? We get into all of that, our entire trip. We break down all of the courses in from the gallery with our guy, Frankie Borelli, and Slim Daddy Trent. We get into all kinds of good stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:23 One guy asks if he gets a hole in one on the same hole with the, with the same ball and then proceeds to lose that ball. Is he an idiot? Another guy also asks, if you are kind of a douche, if you play blade irons, even though you're three or four strokes worse with them, we get into this, and much more,
Starting point is 00:02:39 it's foreplay, it's the boys, here we go. We got myself, we've got Slim Daddy Trent. Hello? We've got Frankie Borelli, the pizza maker. Hello. How we doing, boys? Good, I feel like I yelled into the mic there, but then I felt like I had to further.
Starting point is 00:02:54 That was tough. It is weird. I have this thing where I just kind of put you guys on the spot at the beginning, but I want everyone to know that you're actually there. Right. You can hear, I'm a little nasly today, too. I'm a little sick. The entire office is sick.
Starting point is 00:03:05 The entire office. Liz came in this morning and was like, couldn't even talk. I mean, Liz doesn't have like a, Liz has a sickness. Yeah. Whatever she walked in with today is like, she needs to be like, we need to put like a little fucking tent around her. Contamination. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 What we've got going on is the very normal, like, nasally thing that I've had for like four or five days now. Post nasal drip. Yeah, right. And a lot of people have this. This is just like the weather's changing. It went from like 32 degrees last week to like 62 degrees today. That's what happens.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Your body can't handle it. What she has, like you said, they need like hazmat suits and drag her out of it. It's a scene. She's like, happy Monday, everyone. I almost pushed her back into the elevator and just like. She should have gone right home. She stayed all day. She's still here.
Starting point is 00:03:46 For anybody that doesn't know, that's our coworker, Liz. She's on Barstow Radio. We actually with the Yankee game with her and hubs, myself, Frankie, on Friday night. Yeah, great night. First Yankee game in a couple. couple years. Um, but she's somehow between that time and today, I got very sick. Sounded, uh, I was like Dave was just going up to her being like, you sound horrible. Yeah. She's getting like more and more upset every time. He's like, no, no, you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You sound horrible. It's weird too, because when you see someone that's more sick than you, you feel less sick. Like, I felt great just listening to her talk. But then now when I'm in a room with you guys, I feel like I'm the one that. Yeah. He's going to die. Biggest negative about being, uh, having like the, the nose drips going on. is when you play golf and your head's just down the whole time, like look at you just, you just have the sniffles. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:34 That's where I got sick golfing this week. I mean, we'll talk about it a little bit, but that I felt it mid-round. I'm like, this is it. I felt the cold air getting to the back of my throat, and I'm like, I will be sick tomorrow. That's what happened. I did the exact same thing.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I was like, I was a little bit nasally last week. The cousins were giving me a hard time on Mike and the Murdog, featuring Cousin Riggs the host radio show, and it'll be deal 9 and 10 a.m. And I was like, I'm over it. And then we went to the Yankee game. It was cold at the Yankee game on Friday night. I was like, I'm all right.
Starting point is 00:05:01 And you're right. Just like Saturday standing over the golf ball every like couple seconds. You're standing over it. Your nose is just like dripping. It's cold. You're sniffling, but like you're not sniffling at certain times. You're trying to hit the fucking golf ball. It's a whole scene being sick during golf season.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So it's tough. But we're getting over it. Frank got out the first for the first time this year. I did. I did. It was a, it was. I went out east, Long Island. I was in a place called Manorville.
Starting point is 00:05:26 It went to this place called Pine Hills. Okay. First time ever playing out there. My buddy texted me, he had a gift card. We drove like 55 minutes to get to this golf course. And it was like last minute type of thing, right? We knew we were playing Saturday, but we also waited into the very last second to do it. A little shout out going forward is that you could just use Supreme Golf two-book two times,
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Starting point is 00:06:01 So much easier. So we go out there and I was telling you a little bit before Riggs, it was my first swing of the year, which is crazy, right? I'm like. First swings. First swings. Not even just playing around to the range. I've been so busy since the last time I played in December when I went to the retirement home golf course. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I sprayed all the golf course. The famous incident. Yeah, on like the third hole and I just destroyed the golf course. It was called the, uh, this, um, uh, shit. I'm not going to remember with the, the place that you, where you hit all the balls? Yeah. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Oh, man. The, like, a retirement community. Oh, man. The bridges. The bridges. How can we forget the bridges? Um, the most classic old retirement home golf course name of all time. The bridges.
Starting point is 00:06:42 So this was, uh, I actually unzipped my, uh, golf travel bag to take my golf bag out right before I left to get into the car for my first round. Wow. That's how much I was like rusty, right? And we've had this conversation. I think we talked about it last week of the week before when it's your first round. Do you feel like you are going to be playing better? Do you feel like you have no kinks? Do you feel like everything you're doing is just natural and like you just get right back into it?
Starting point is 00:07:05 I usually do, yes. And I think the overwhelming opinion I thought last time when we talked about it was that you feel good the first time you play because you don't have any bad habits. So I had that confidence going in. I'm like, I'm going to play great. I actually wanted to go play like the black. I was like me and my buddy Kyle, we were looking for places to play. I'm like, I'll play anywhere. Like I feel real confident.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I know I'm a swing at golf club. I'm doing it my whole life. I can do this, right? I get to this goddamn golf course, right? We booked the time for 135. We got there at 120, so it was fast. It was moving. We were moving.
Starting point is 00:07:33 All of a sudden, I blink. I'm on the first. The ball is below me on a tee. On a tea. I have a club in my hand. I'm like, what is going on right now? But I'm going to be fine. Riggs, we talked about this last week.
Starting point is 00:07:44 What is your most uncomfortable club to hit? And what's your distance, right? And I said it was a sandwich. It feels like I have a butter knife in my hand. Sometimes a steak knife, sometimes even a spoon. Sometimes I feel like I have a spoon in my. my hand. Not what you want.
Starting point is 00:07:55 No. I hit my first shot of the year. Perfect drive right down the middle. Nice little draw. You're a good driver of the golf ball. I've been having, knock on wood, I've had a good drive for about three or four years. I just consistently just hit it straight and long and it's the best thing I can do on the golf course. What I struggle at is when I have the irons on my hand and the wedge.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Riggs, I could not hit my sandwich on this golf course any worse than what I did. The first three or four holes that we played, I didn't even put. I was hitting the ball. There is no word for what I had in my hand when I had a sandwich. I was hitting drives like 280, 290 right down the middle, and I'd have a sandwich or a pitching wedge in my hand, and I hit it three feet. Then I get up to the green, and I hit it over.
Starting point is 00:08:38 And then I had to do a little three-foot chip, and I hit it back over. I was walking back and forth, and we were paired up with these two men. Snip, snap, snap, back before. It was crazy. I couldn't do it. I got to the fourth hole.
Starting point is 00:08:49 It was my first time. I finally got one on the green in regulation, and I was like, okay, now I can put. I feel like I wasn't even playing the spoiler. You know what really sucks, too, when you're knife and all your wedges is that, like, American golf courses, there's, like, no other options because you have to fly the ball to the green. Right. So if you're, like, 60, 70 yards out, you can't, like, bump something in there because it'll just come in hot and scull over the green. You can't, like, roll something up short of the green because there's usually fucking bunkers of water everywhere.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Right. There was bunkers in front of it. It was an elevated green at every single option. And I just couldn't, not even 60 or 70, I mean, 60, 70 yards I would have been happy with. I've kept finding myself with a 25, 15, even like a 5. yard little chip to just go onto the green i couldn't do it i hit behind you know what i needed i needed that that square strike yeah the square strike i needed you but he's a righty i'm a lefty i would have taken i would have taken the shit out of that thing because i couldn't hit it be very funny going back and like
Starting point is 00:09:38 watching you make fun of the square strike on the show and then you like genuinely i mean he's got it in his blood do they even make it in lefty probably not i bet they don't i mean it's such an old man like old men aren't lefties they like they learned how to play the game righty that's what they do like that's not if you You don't think Frank is eventually transforming into his dad and is going to have all the same clubs. I would have loved it. You don't think I want the spin doctor out there. I couldn't hit anything that's starting right now. You're 24 years old.
Starting point is 00:10:02 There's no way the Square Strike factory that they bought produces lefty club. They don't have enough money for that. No chance. There's zero chance. So I think I shot, I'm not even kidding. If you somehow put a score to what I got in the first three holes, I must have shot like a 65 on the front. We get to the back nine and I'm like, all right, Kyle, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to play golf right now.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I'm hitting great irons. I was hitting good long islands. I was hitting five irons like onto the greens. Like by the greens. Like I was getting by the greens and two and then I was making eights and nines. It was nuts. I'd never see anything like it. I get to the 10th hole.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I'm like, I'm going to start playing golf right now. This is what I'm doing. The first nine was basically going to the driving range and just like hitting balls and just getting a feel for it. This back nine is the old, like this is what I'm going to count. This is why I'm here. And I ended up shooting a 39 on the back. I felt fucking great.
Starting point is 00:10:50 You got momentum about. It was confidence. It was. was confidence. I stepped up to the green. My first drive, I hit it right down the middle, and then I had like a 35-yard chip. I put it right next to the hole, and I was putting for birdie. I'm like, let's go. We're back.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I'm out of a short par four. I hit the green from the T-box. I rolled it up on people in front of me. They were like clapping for me. I'm like, let's go. I'm putting for Eagle. I'm like, I'm putting for Eagle. I'm like, I'm ready to go.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So now my next round, I cannot wait to get back out there because it was like, I think I shot like a 98 and I shot a 39 in the back, which is nuts. Jesus. Not math guys, but front nine wasn't great. the front. Like I said, I don't even know what I stride on the front night. I have no idea. So, um, welcome back, Frankie. Glad you're back into the golf. Thank you. It was beautiful this weekend, by the way. It was a little, uh, Saturday was windy. Like cut through you? Yeah. Yeah. So I played Saturday and Sunday. And Saturday was definitely colder than Sunday.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Um, it was windy as shit. Played there Saturday. Windy as hell. Played the tips. It's very difficult. Uh, but I had, so everybody knows that listen to the show. I have a lot, a lot, I have a lot, a long-going feud with caddies. Yeah, oh, yeah. I always, just for whatever reason, I very rarely have a great caddy experience. In fact, only twice, really, in my whole life. Have I, in my opinion, had a caddy that made my experience better?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Usually, they're just annoying. Well, it appears to me that there may be one, you know, one factor in all this. No, because I have several buddies. That was very diplomatic. Several buddies who are the same way that they're like, It's just not, especially because me, like, I just don't even notice if I carry my own bag or don't. Like, it literally doesn't even change my, I don't even notice. I just throw it on my bag.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I just don't notice it. So I would rather paying $100 for a caddy, like, versus just doing something that I don't care that I do anyways. It needs to be, like, a legitimate, at $100 a lot of money. It's like a lot more money than most golf course you're going to go play. Absolutely. So then I, in my brain, I'm starting to, like, think, like, well, this better fucking be worth it. You better be worth it, motherfucker. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And it never is. greens were lightning. I was hitting like first four or five holes hit my puts like 20 feet past the hole. Lightning. And you're thinking like winter golf still and they're going to be slow. Nope,
Starting point is 00:12:59 lightning. But we're playing. Caddies are, you know, they're not great, but they're fine. Like, they're chatty,
Starting point is 00:13:07 they're funny. We're having like a decent time, whatever. I just, as tradition, I tell them early on, don't say anything to me on the green. I don't care about your reads.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I'm just let me read and like fuck up my own. Rather than have the doubt creep in, like, but I don't want to be upset at you. if I miss a put I want to do my own thing. What I want this show to become is I want to interview these caddies.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I want them to come on the show and be like, I need both sides of the story. We may need to put them in like the black light and change their voices because they're so afraid of what Riggs may do to them if they speak this side. I think I'm a pretty fair guy,
Starting point is 00:13:39 but I'm sure it's biased. We bring them into a room and it's just like a dark light on them. And the same guy knows like, well, we stepped on to the first stage and Riggs told me not to speak to it. There's a very real chance they're just like, no.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I'm not coming in. I'm not. You say the name Rick, and they start sprinting away. A long-going feud with caddies. And so we're playing, and again, like, whatever. Everything's, like, fine. We're going around. We're having a good match.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And at the end of the, after the 17th hole, I put out. And one of the caddies who's carrying the other guy's bags, so, like, I don't have a ton of interaction with it. She comes over to me. And he goes, do you cut your putts? I was like, what are you talking about? He goes, do you, like, slice your putts? and I was like, no. He goes, no, I'm pretty sure you, like,
Starting point is 00:14:24 you, like, cut across and slice your putts. Oh, Jesus. And I just said, okay, and I walked away. And then I go up and the other guys have like, you won't fucking believe with this guy you said it. And the guys, and my partner, he was like, did you guys, like, to the other guys?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Like, did you tell, like, your catty to fuck with rigs? Like, try to get in his head before last hole, blah, blah, blah. No. But ended up playing last hole, fine, no issues. But, like, this just adds to my ongoing. feud with caddies. Like, what the fuck? Did he say it in like a weird?
Starting point is 00:14:55 You just said it deadpan like I just said it to you. So, you know, you like cut your puts. Get the fuck away from me. Holy shit. That is a tough thing to say to someone because what are you going to do? Are you going to help? Like, is he going to all of a sudden give you a lesson? What is you trying to accomplish with that?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Right. Right. On a 17th hole. Right. Are you in your head about it at all? Do you now think you cut your puts? So what I think is I clearly hook my puts. I think he was almost being like deadpan dry sarcastic. out like, like, in some weird, crazy way.
Starting point is 00:15:24 But, like, I don't know if I miss. I don't really know what was going on. And I'd had a great 17 hole. I can guarantee you the next time you're on a green. Yeah, I mean. Thinking about what this guy said. It was crazy. And I was like, I had had a great hole on 17, like, nice two putts.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So I wasn't like in an upset state. Right. I was just looking at the guy. I just said, okay. And I walked away. It was so weird. I can picture exactly how that way. Me too.
Starting point is 00:15:47 I can picture. It's like, it's like a movie. in my head. I can see it. Comes up to you out of nowhere. You know, you cut your putt's like, okay. You just walk away, like, and go to the guys like, is this fucking guy kidding me? I wasn't happy. No, I can't imagine. Like, what is that move? That's a weird move to say something. And was he your caddy? Was he not the other guy's catty? Yeah, that's a weird move. So that was weird. Especially at the end, like, maybe
Starting point is 00:16:10 if you see something on the practice screen, like, while you guys are going. Yeah, like, we're introducing each other and stuff. And he sees you put on the practice screen. I don't know. Even then it would be weird, but like, we're not in the middle of the, we're in the middle of our right. Right. So I've got ongoing thing with caddies. That will, that's going to be a continued feature. Every time you use caddy, I think we're going to have at least one story of you not being happy about it. There should be a call to all caddies now.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Keep your eyes out for when Riggs is there and make sure you're on top of your game and don't say bullshit. You know, I just think that it should be, it should be an ad, as a very added value, not like a, eh. Well, it also, I mean, I got to be honest to, it depends on what you're trying to accomplish when you're playing the round. Like when I get a caddy, it's a huge deal to me because I never, I mean, I just never, like had, I never did that. I got in public courses. Very rarely have cat. Right. So, and I also, I take their, I take, I just take what they say differently than what you do.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Like, if they tell me, like a putts going left or right, I take the information. If I don't agree with it, like, I just do whatever I want. But, I mean, I tend to just agree with them, which I, which you like, no, that's traditionally, it's almost impossible not to. Right. Which then fucks with your brain. Right. It's like I usually feel like I don't hit the ball great, but I usually putt really well. So I usually make more putts than when I.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So like, why would I turn over the most important part of the game to somebody I don't even know? People like, well, he's the home caddy, but okay, but like he doesn't know the speed I'm going to putt it with. So anyways, I get this. Yeah. I mean, I get it. It's just like it depends on how you take the information. Like I would just like when I get caddies, it's like a huge deal to me. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:17:45 For some reason just hand it. When I hit a shot, I just love handing out the club. I think it's because I was on the other side of it also. Totally. And I know that sometimes like reading the greens are hard for another person, which I actually don't agree. I don't disagree with what you do, like where you just tell the guy like, hey, just don't read the greens.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I've had that happen to me. I think it's better for both of us. Right. Because then the caddy doesn't feel like pressure to like I better give him the right line. Yeah. And I don't feel like I don't. What I hate is being like feeling resentful towards the caddy when I miss a pot. Being like, well, he said it was just outside.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And that's just regular human nature is to feel like the person, because you don't want to ever blame yourself for doing something. So when someone told you, it's almost like a clutch, a crutch to, this is why I missed the put in your head. You're going to find a million different reasons why you missed it. You do that anyway as a human being. Like when you fuck up, you're like, why did I do that? And when that guy literally tells you to do something, you're just going to blame the entire thing. Totally.
Starting point is 00:18:36 And then you get like this negative energy going where you're like, I don't know if I trust this guy, but he's going to keep talking to me on the greens. What do we do? Versus like if you just miss a put, that's like a very normal experience. Yeah. And it doesn't really bring in all this weird dichotomy. It's just like, I just missed a put. I miss pucks all the time. Versus like, I miss the puck because am I mad at the caddy?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Is the caddy good? Does the caddy suck? We see this with pros all the time when they get mad at their caddy. We're like, they're fucking pros. They can't read their own greens. Right. But I think that's the way the pros think is half the time they're like, well, I feel like just like regular human nature like I'm talking about. They'll point at the caddy.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Like, why am I listening to this fucking guy? I'm a pro. Bubba. Like I see that come out and like Bubba. I think Bubba almost does it. He's the opposite. He wants to have someone else to blame. So what he says he's like, oh, I can say it wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Right. Like you're almost being, you're much braver than Bubba because you're like, I'm going to take it on my own shoulders. Thank you, Tray. I agree. Come right out in front of it. Yeah. I very much agree. You're right.
Starting point is 00:19:28 My caddy I had at St. Andrews, awesome. Phenomenal caddy. And my caddy that had at Stream Song, which we're going to talk about later, we've got stream song review coming up. Awesome. Tricky Nick is his name. Follow him on Instagram. Great following Instagram. Have you ever had a caddy where at first you always tell him, you know, I'll do my own putting.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And then throughout the course. of the round he was so good that you're like hey you bring him in for a little little reading definitely because there's gonna be what i'll do is like on um if i got like a short one like inside of 10 feet i generally won't ask for any kind of read because like the break's pretty obvious but when you and it's like you can't miss by that much i mean you can be a little bit off but on like a lag put of like 40 feet but there's like big ridges and shit in the green that i might just miss then i'll be like hey what do you see here right and give me the line and if those are pretty accurate throughout or if i'm like having tough because you get different grass and
Starting point is 00:20:15 shit you go to different places that's different type of grass and like sometimes there's some grass that i just can't read i just look at it i'm like i don't know what that does that i'll really need the caddy and so that helps but like traditionally it's just like again just makes everything easier um but anyways i had that experience on saturday uh played the black again on sunday it's becoming my home course it's so easy just book it um well it's becoming easier not you're the we gotta stop talking about that i don't want to ruin it for my my situation my buddies warned me Oh, what we talked about last week? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Okay. That's what I said to you. And you were like, I know, I know. So, nope, we're not going to talk about it. Frankie doesn't know what we're not talking about. Good. I can see it in his eyes. We're not talking about it.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Played the black. It was great. It's really hard to get on to impossible. Don't ever try to put it in anybody else. We can talk about that. Yeah, that's obvious. We got a couple things to get into. We had the Valero Texas open this past weekend.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Andrew Landry won. He actually shares a swing coach. with a guy I know who's just gone to this guy a couple times. Said he's a great guy. That's all fantastic. Outside of that, I mean, I don't think any of us are really changing our entire weekends for the Valero Texas Open.
Starting point is 00:21:25 No. No, I watched a little bit of ZJ when he was in the intention, but I moved all weekends, so I caught what I could, but then I just, once he fell out of it on Sunday, I was out. RIP to Iowa.
Starting point is 00:21:35 You guys were in the mix again and then gone. It sucks, you know? I really thought he was going to win it. So did I. What was he tied for the league going into Sunday? Yep. He shot a 65 on Friday. He was on fire.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And then just, pretty didn't get anything going yesterday. Just faded down the stretch. Sergio Garcia with a great, great driver throw, threw his driver into the woods. This was great because Sergio, ever since the 13 that he made on 15 at Augusta, she just seemed like upset, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:01 I was going to say that was going to be what I was going to say where it's like that driver throw, part of that was the 15th hole in Augusta. He's still living that fucking nightmare. Still upset about that. I mean, you come in as the champ. Everyone's like, what the fuck did he make of 13? What?
Starting point is 00:22:14 He's out of the tournament. Then he did the interview after he's like, I didn't miss a single shot. So he missed like eight shots, dude. They all went in the water, which we did talk about. They were good wed shots, but I mean, they went in the water. Nobody else was hitting five shots in the water. So clearly that's carrying over, misses the cut, hits a drive that he kind of yanked left, throws his driver into the woods.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Unbelievable throw. Vicious one-handed throw in the woods. And then he does the classic, like, less than two seconds after you throw it. You, like, immediately regret it. kind of like trundles over into the woods a little like cautiously and then like realizes like I do have to go get it kind of like walks in and he's like dodging tree limbs finds his driver like swings it a couple other times out of frustration comes out next shot I think he like scald over the green misses the cut of the text open so that was great I tweeted
Starting point is 00:23:08 about it just being like love seeing a good club throw had a couple of people freaking out being like This is what I hate about. Certain guys on tour. What are you talking about? You hate everyone that throws a club? Tiger Woods throws fucking clubs. Jordan Speed throws clubs. Roy McQuoy threw a club into a lake.
Starting point is 00:23:21 John Daly threw a club into Lake Michigan. I mean, you just throw clubs. You get upset. You throw clubs. There's a weird thing, too, that I was talking about all weekend that, for some reason with Sergio, I don't, I didn't find it, like, bad or weird that he threw that club into the, uh, into the trees. Like, I didn't say, oh, what an asshole. I almost laughed. Like, I was like, cool.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Well, I did laugh. I said that's hilarious that he tossed that in. He's just so angry. For the past couple of weeks, this is what he's been dealing with. He's just bent up in anger. But when you watch someone like John Rahm explode and throw a club, you're like texting your family members to make sure they're safe. But when Sergio throws a club, it's funny.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And it's like, oh, it's just Sergio. But when someone else does it, it's just, I don't know what it is. It's definitely the way that they look and the way that they present themselves. Some guys look is, like, come off as like little baby, like, bitches. Right. but Rahm just is mad. There's something in John Rom's eyes when he does it. Sergio is just, Sergio's actually mad, but he's mad about the shot, and he's going to get over,
Starting point is 00:24:19 he's going to walk in there and get his club. Rom, you don't know what's going to happen next. When Sergio did it, it reminded me of, like, if my friend did it and just like, oh, motherfucker and just tossing his club. And it's funny. The guys in the group will all laugh. Like, look at that crazy person that just threw him. John Rom, you're not sure he's ever going to get over it. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Right. Ever. Ever. Exactly. Exactly. At any, like, any single bad shot, you're like, he might never get over this show. And the only way he might get over it is. if he spills someone's blood somewhere. Correct.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Double correct. Yeah, I mean, that's how correct it is. John Rom needs to sacrifice someone on a green to, like, get over a shot that he hit on the third. And the other thing is, like, most average guys, when you do a club throw like the Sergio one, like I said, within like 20 seconds, you're just over it. You're totally normal. Yeah, anyone that's getting us pretty frustrated every second. What are you going to do? When you were tweeting about it, were people responding, did I see that correctly with their own situations where, like, their friends at their own club?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Oh, yeah. I got to tell you, I don't have. I don't have any friends that throw clubs. Like, I think average golfers who throw clubs like that are actually crazy. Like, there's obviously there's stakes with guys like Sergio and John Rom. But if you are getting that mad, and I guess me and my friends, we don't play matches like you guys do. Right. So we're just really out there just doing whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:30 So when anybody throws a club who's a normal average golfer, that to me is, like, actually a little psycho. See, I don't think so. I just think that it's a very, like, you know, when you get into it and you want to play a good round and you're like, Especially a lot of times you're really focusing on your game on not hitting a certain shot. Getting that shot out of your game and then you hit that shot, you just fucking pissed off. And you throw something, you slam a club really quick. Again, it's like a 10-second ordeal. Then right afterwards, you're like, well, that made me look like kind of an asshole, but, like, I was really pissed off.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Right. I know a ton of guys that do that. Not a ton, but, like, I know people that definitely do that. And those people aren't like psychopaths. They're just like, I'm in that moment. That guy was very upset. Sure. There is a part of you being very, like, you get very angry.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But I don't know. When I throw a club, it's out of, it's like to make a joke. Like, I've done it a couple times. It's like, I've never done it, like, out of pure, like. Yeah, it's not like, you're chopping down a tree. Yeah, it's not, it's not one to one. It's not like, oh, I hit a bad shot, so now I'm going to throw clubs. There's other, like, you can scream, you can be like, fuck, like, I fucking hate myself.
Starting point is 00:26:29 But people who are throwing clubs on a normal day is like, that's, you're taking it to, like, a whole other place. I think I've done it once where I hit, like, 10 balls, like, just left and, right, and I hit like maybe three in a row in the water from the tea, and I just tossed my driver and, like, the whole group started cracking up. I can't take this club anymore. I almost like wanting to throw it in the lake. But, yeah, I really don't. If I hit a bad shot, it's more of like I hang my head.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I would say most of the time, too, if somebody throws a club, like, they're willing to laugh about it 10 seconds. Right. They're just like, I was fucking really. Like, I'm frustrated. Golf, frustrating. What are you going to do? So anyways, that happened. That was funny.
Starting point is 00:27:06 You go watch that video if you haven't seen it yet. We got dessert classic this week. A lot of memories. for Trent and myself. We were there for a couple days last year. That's right. This was the incident with the PGA tour, which we've gotten over since, much better relationship with the PGA tour.
Starting point is 00:27:19 The team event, they introduced it for the first time. I think it was like 1881 was the last time there was a team event on tour. And then it was the first time since was last year. It was a big success, made things really exciting. Really interesting dynamic from last year was that like all of the big gun teams, I don't remember exactly who was on what team. But I remember it was like Ricky, like Jason Day. A bunch of these guys were like paired up and a bunch of them
Starting point is 00:27:41 miss the cut, which was kind of weird. But we've got that going this week. We got the walk-up music and all of that. Quick reminder that if you would like to get in on the action this week, since it's the team event, it's a good idea to be invested in this week. There's no better way to do it than our friends at bettd-si.com. There's also a lot of hockey going on. There's a lot of basketball.
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Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, we talked about that last week. I looked through some of these teams. Rory Sabatini, John Daly. That's a strange team. J.D. And Rory Sabatini. You know, maybe it might be Roy Sabatini looking for some, like, positivity, like some fanfare that he doesn't usually get. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:51 By teaming up with J.D. I don't hate that. I can see that angle. Like, oh, everybody usually fucking hates me. I'm going to pair up with the most popular guy in the world. Look out for Wesley Brian. He's teamed up with John Rom. So he might be the victim of a homicide at the end of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yes. Deathpool on Wesley Brian. You're at the event. You see a ball just coming to the trees. All of a sudden you see Wesley Bryant just dead on the tee box. John Rom's walking down towards the green. Everyone's just sprinting away. He just pulls out a machete.
Starting point is 00:30:21 He just like looking at everyone like, ah! Somebody take a run at me. I dare you. John Robb. John Rom's a fucking crazy person. We've had Wesley Brown on the show. He's a very fun. He was a very interesting, cool guy.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And John Rom seems the same way. It's just that's an interesting. That was an interesting pairing to me. Yeah, that is interesting. We got Keegan Bradley, John Kerr. Both those guys have been on the show. Root for that team. Jason Duffner, Pat Perez.
Starting point is 00:30:41 It's a fucking good group. It's a fun, colorful group. Yep. Bubba Watson, Matt Coucher, that's the most dad group that's ever been put together. Oh, that's so true. Oh, my God. Their walk-up music's going to be horrible. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:53 What do you think it's going to be? Did they even submit a song? I don't think you even send a song. No, they definitely submit a song. They're like the dad at the wedding who, like, request a song. Like, you guys got to play this. I can't even imagine one. Is it team songs or is it individual songs?
Starting point is 00:31:05 God, I hope it's a team song. Wow. I don't know what I hope. That's going to be so awkward. Oh, my God. I hadn't thought about that until just right now. Yeah, that's a really good point. I really like if I was going to pick a winner, Patrick Reed and Patrick Cantlay.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I really like that team. Interesting. That's a cool team. A couple fiery competitors. This is Reed's first start since winning the Masters, and I saw no one has won in their first start since winning the Masters since, I believe, Tiger in like 07 or something. I'm sorry, 97. That's interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:34 Something crazy, like back it was, it's been that long. something interesting to watch there will be you know if you're going to have kind of the classic like masters hangover type thing they talk about with Reed he did the whole media tour he even had all the stuff about his family which a lot of people have the theory that he just doesn't give a shit about any of that
Starting point is 00:31:50 hard to imagine he doesn't care at all but maybe he doesn't and be cool if he went out there and won again to be honest with you kind of like almost almost like silence a lot of those stories and be like you just go fuck yourself I'm just going to keep winning right this guys just win one last thing on the group's Ian Poulter and Graham McDowell that makes me like
Starting point is 00:32:07 Graham McDowell less. Yeah, and that's tough because I like Graham McDowell a lot. Me too. It's just like, how can you look at Ian Pulcher be like, yeah, I'll play with that guy. That'll be great. Well, I mean, they got the Ryder Cup thing. When you're boys in the Ryder Cup, that's kind of your guy. So I could see that a little bit.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But anyway, Zurich Classic this week. Pay attention to that. Teams, the walk-up stuff. We're going to get some really awkward videos that come out of their walk-up music situation. I'm pretty excited for that. On to From the Gallery. We got a bunch of good stuff to get into this week from the, from the gallery is brought to you by our good friends at Supreme Golf. That's what we were talking
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Starting point is 00:33:19 figure it out. If you're not using it, you're very dumb person. We got a bunch of things to get into, but let's start with something from last week that's hunting for golf balls. I got a million responses about this. Oh, yeah. Turns out, I mean, no joke, people. people were like risking their lives to find free golf balls versus just buying new balls.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like there's people out there that hate buying new golf balls. It's so expensive. And it's a thrill. I mean, it's a thrill to find new golf balls. It's a great feeling. Why is it so exciting? I don't know. It's like an Easter egg hunt or something.
Starting point is 00:33:52 It is. And then you also, what we didn't bring up last week is there's something about finding a ball, a brand new ball, and seeing like the logo or the name on it. It's like Roger or this random bank. And just said, where did this ball come from? Where did it go? And you feel good about hitting it. because if you lose it, you found it.
Starting point is 00:34:08 There's also a sense of, like, I feel like I can do whatever I want on this golf course with this golf ball. Because if I lose it, it wasn't mine to begin with. I didn't spend money on it. I mean, there are people submitting there. They were like, my brother and I would wade around in swamps without our shoes on so that we could feel balls in the water. And I'm like, they're like alligators and shit in there.
Starting point is 00:34:27 They're like, yeah, but there's used golf balls in there, too. But people just will do anything for use golf balls. That's borderline, like, you're too poor to buy a new golf ball so that the only way you can play the sport is if you go. These guys just love the thrill. Like some people jump off mountains, Frankie. Some people jump out of airplanes. These guys just love finding golf balls.
Starting point is 00:34:42 It's like their favorite fucking thing in the world. They love the feel of the dimples on their feet in the pond. That's a pro v, I think. That might be a pro v. You know, it's crazy. People just love it. I was getting a million tweets about this. All kinds of stories.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I mean, nothing better than free. I mean, you put out the graph of where you would go, like, how you and your brother would do it. I guarantee there's, now there's way more people doing that, scoping out their local courses and trying to find balls. It's a great move. The old Google Earth. Again, find a good spot, park, go in there. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:10 I mean, we would wear, like you said, we'd bring bug spray. Make sure you had jeans and long-sleeve shirt on so you wouldn't get poison ivy and just combed through the woods looking for golf balls. It was great. So a lot of traction on that. If you've done that, send us some picks, send us some tweets of your little golf ball hunting expeditions. We'll take a look. We'll get a good laugh out of that.
Starting point is 00:35:30 So we got a couple interesting things that popped up. Let's go to Matthew So again Matthew is probably using Supreme Golf When he played golf Because he'd be a really dumb person If he wasn't He said his buddy played
Starting point is 00:35:44 Him and his buddy are out They played the same nine holes twice in a row This guy I mean we're gonna have to believe this story Just for the sake of the story He went this wrote this long email It'll be crazy if he lied Said his buddy gets a hole in one
Starting point is 00:35:55 The first time they play this short part 3 120 yards uses a gap wedge They played the same nine twice They go back through Same golf ball the guy's using Gets a hole in one again same hole same club same golf ball oh in the same round same round holy shit like two hours apart turns out a hole or two later whatever it is they're uh playing this par five there's like water
Starting point is 00:36:16 short of the green guy goes for it and two hits the ball same ball into the water they lose it can't find it said something about there's like uh it was like late in the season so the water was a little icy in the ball like they thought it might be up in the weeds they've sent search parties over there they've all gone and looked for it can't find it so the question is like Like, do they keep looking for it? Is it that important? And then the other thing was like, is my buddy an idiot for using continuing to use the ball? Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:42 The first part of it, do they keep looking for it? I mean, at this point, it's gone. If you set the search party and you didn't find it right off the top, and how the fucking can find that ball. It also depends on how big the water is. I'm assuming it's probably a pretty big body of water. Yeah. Or just lie.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I mean, who cares, right? The guy should just be like, yeah, that's the ball, sure. Well, he's an idiot. Yeah. Who cares? This goes to the second part of the question. He's an idiot for using the ball. after hitting two hole and ones on the same hole on the same round.
Starting point is 00:37:06 That's something that you put up. If there's any time to put a ball into a plaque, it's when you hit a fucking hole in one one on the same hall two times in one round. Just put that ball on your bag. What else are you going to do? Did he think he was going to get another hole in one? Like, he thought it was going to be a lucky ball. He thought he was only three.
Starting point is 00:37:21 He just not care. Like, some people are more sentimental about. But he does. But he does because they've been doing the search parties for the golf ball. You can't have it both ways. You can't use the ball after you hit two hole in ones and then complain when you can't find it. Yeah, it's interesting, too, because my first instinct was this guy's a moron.
Starting point is 00:37:38 What's he doing? But then I thought, if he really was super careful about keeping the ball, then he would have never gotten the second hole in one with the same ball because he would have just been like, wow, that's my home on one ball. So where do you draw the line? That is true. Yeah, that's true. But I also, I don't even know, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:37:57 That's tough, wrinkle to it. Then I'm trying to think because I've never got a hole in one. Like, if I get a hole in one, am I immediately just putting that ball away. That's what I was thinking about. Do I, am I going to put that ball on a plaque when I hit a hole one if I ever do? And I don't think I would. I don't either. I think it's cool to just keep playing. Yeah, cool. I was great. I got a one instead of a two or a three or a five. Let's just keep playing golf. Like whatever. Yeah. And I like what you said. You could just be like, this is the ball. This is the ball that did it. And it's at this point he could. Somebody could come out. When you get to a point where it's two on the same hall, that's, I mean, that can't be done that often. That's like never. Right. Now you're in some. territory where it's like this ball means something to me i agree with that that's why after the second i think he's just an idiot right the second one buddy you put that away he should be like but then he might be like i can get an albatross on this point five there's magic and he very much cares about that ball that's why he went searching for and that's why he's he's messaging us
Starting point is 00:38:49 about like he needs to go find it so never should have used uh so this is from this is from mike um he says i'm looking into club memberships several are a better better deal if you join as a couple. So is it worth it to pretend to be a K couple with my buddy to join for cheaper or is that too big of the hassle to keep that routine going forever?
Starting point is 00:39:14 There should be a movie. They should turn this into a movie. This is Chuck and Larry. This is Chuck and Larry. But the, oh yeah, it is. Damn, they already made that movie. This is quite literally a movie. Yeah, they pretty much made the movie.
Starting point is 00:39:26 They were gay to have the kids. It was health insurance, I believe. Yeah. You can do a golf version of it. I guess. You could do a golf version. Listen. Because it's funny.
Starting point is 00:39:35 Like golf is like, it's very, you know, the way golf is. So you got two gay guys. You got to pretend to be gay. People are freaked out by it. It's just too much. You can't hold up a lie that long. It's just too much. Depends how big the discount is.
Starting point is 00:39:46 You know, I think it is too much. But like, if the discount's massive and you like, it's the difference between, like, playing golf in the sick place or not. There is no, there is no reasoning to this. Well, you don't just. Because then your whole life is consumed by this lie. I can't put up an Instagram. I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 00:40:00 People will always know. you can't be with girls. You can't be seen anywhere. I mean, just a couple guys at the club invite you over to watch a football game. Anything. Well, you're not getting to any invites. Where's your boyfriend? Where's your husband?
Starting point is 00:40:12 Like, what? Like, what if you slip? Like, how many years is this going to go on? Yeah. And then maybe it's like a rom-com. You guys end up falling in love actually and you're that you turn into a gay man. That's like I could use Francis right now. That's like I could use Francis right now to get into a place because if you search my name,
Starting point is 00:40:30 there's all blog. Is Francis trying to hook up with you. Right. Right. There's all disgusting blogs about him trying to get inside me. Right. True. There are.
Starting point is 00:40:40 So me and him could, I mean, technically, we probably could get a discount at this country club because if you look it up, I mean, the Internet says so. It's definitely not worth it, but I would respect the shit out of somebody who tried it. I watched this. Yeah, I thought so, too. You know what I mean? Such a commitment level. I watched a short. Match your outfits every time you go play.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah. Kind of fun. I watched this, like, digital short on the internet. It had like no, it had no audio. It was just something that someone shot, and it was going viral. I think I may have started on Reddit or something, but it was about a guy who wanted to get out of a parking ticket, and he said that he was, so the police officer comes over and he knocks on the window, and the guy's like, I'm rushing to go get to visit my wife.
Starting point is 00:41:19 She's giving birth right now. And so the whole video is about the cop is following him, and the kid walks into a hospital and finds like a single mother, and he starts pushing her, and like the cop's still in the background, making sure that's the baby. And, like, as the video goes on, the kid, the guy just keeps getting older. He ends up marrying the chick and the cops, like, still in the back, like, eating a donut, and making sure.
Starting point is 00:41:39 And as it keeps going on and on, like, the guy has a kid and the kid's going out to college and, like, the cops still at the graduation party making sure. And it gets all the way to the end and the wife dies. And it gets, like, real sad at the end. And the guy's old. He's very old now. He's, like, 80 years old. And finally he's like
Starting point is 00:42:01 The cop like gets up He's like all right I'll let you off I'll let you off this time I believe you So it's like that's what I That this reminds me of that It's like how long would you have to go with this lie
Starting point is 00:42:11 Just to get a discount I mean come on guys You can't you can't hold this lie for that long Yeah it's a little too much I guess Just pay it up Matt Mike Just pay it up Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Next up we got Charlie
Starting point is 00:42:22 Charlie asked a I think a question a lot of people have wondered But yes basically Is it is it like really cool to play really blady irons versus like the big meaty meaty cavity back ones even if you're going to be like two or three or four strokes worse with the with the better player irons um again i think people think it's like really cool to use like blady clubs yeah you're like a pro they like look really good and kind of like badass over the ball you can work the ball both ways yeah
Starting point is 00:42:54 when in reality you're just not good enough and it's costing you like two or three strokes I think you're just an asshole. Yeah. You should never use the blades if you can't hit them. I mean, there's like pros on tour that don't use blades. Right. I'm struggling right now. I have like Forge Nines.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I have the Mizuno's MP60s. I've had them forever. And I just think sometimes for me that the sweet spot is the size of a penny. If I can get something just a little bit bigger, I'm not hitting these. I'm not a pro golfer. If I can get a little more help with just coming through the ball and hitting it on the sweet spot, I'm going to do it. And anyone that wants to go the opposite way, like, hey, I want to take away my sweet spot, even though I can't hit the ball that correctly, you're a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Why would you ever, with the technology in golf clubs nowadays, why would you ever want to get a disadvantage just to look cooler? All the clubs look great now. No joke, I would legitimately, if the square strike saved me like two strokes, I would legitimately use the square. Right. Like, very seriously, I would just use it. Just to get better at golf, I'm going to use whatever to do.
Starting point is 00:43:49 That'd be crazy, not to. Like, he should get even more of a cavity back to gain three or four strokes on it. Giant cavity back, just like a fucking. It's not like back Like a beach ball You're in your club It's not back in 30 years ago When clubs
Starting point is 00:44:02 You needed to get pro clubs Just to, you know Have a good club Now every club is good I mean you can find yourself A nice cavity back iron That looks nice over the ball I mean come on
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah I had a classic In case And I have like some meaty ass Like cavity back type clubs In like all through high school And like early in college I think Taylor made used to make the biggest ones Like the R7s or whatever
Starting point is 00:44:25 Those giant huge And basically hybrids, like, fuck. Yeah. And before hybrids were a thing. I had a buddy in college you, like, saw my bag in my dorm room one time for the first time. I was like, oh, look at those days. Jesus Christ. And, of course, we get out there, I just dusted them.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Right. I was like, yeah, like, okay. Those are like the most bubbly clubs ever, right? They just look like bubbles. I looked up the square shirk, by the way, they do come in lefties. Oh, great. Wow. Yeah, if they want to, I mean, I would love to have one.
Starting point is 00:44:52 That's very nice. Hey, Riggs, I actually have a story that's a from the gallery type. thing. I love it. Yeah. So I was reminded of this over the weekend. I brought me and my buddy. Frank, you just got his diary out. I have my diary out, my book first time. Actually, I think I wrote the date the last time I brought in here.
Starting point is 00:45:09 It was pretty long ago. It was like December. Frankie Diary is one of my favorites. Last time was December 11th. It was the last time I brought this goddamn thing in here. So we're back. But so I was reminded of this story over the weekend when I got up with my buddy Kyle. Our friend Chris, our mutual friend Chris, that Kyle went to college with.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Great golfer. I've known him for a couple years now. He caddied his whole life. He's got like that country club vibe to him. He's always like looking to play really nice courses. He's a huge barso fan too. He's always listening to our podcast. Whenever we're talking about these courses, he gets super jealous of like where Riggs has been playing and stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I'm always getting chirped by that. Good. So I was reminded of this story. Now that's the type of guy he is. He loves like nice golf courses. He's really into that stuff. Back when they graduated college, they just graduated college, and he just got his brand new job. Now, this guy caddied his whole life and then, you know, go to college, and now he got a job out of college, and he was ready to go into the real world.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Okay. He told me that for years and years when he was caddy, and he used to carry for this one member that was, like, awesome. Like, he always would throw him, like, $300. Like, he was the guy every time that he would ask for this guy, Chris, like, he was the guy to, like, catty for, and he loved him. And this guy happened to belong to Shinnecock. and he would always dangle the opportunity of coming out the Shinnock. The guy would always like, you know, like tease them and be like, hey, one of these days, I'll take you out.
Starting point is 00:46:31 If you get this, like, you read this putt, maybe I'll take you out the Shinnock, Chris. Like, you'll come out there. Yeah. And it was always like an ongoing battle to get an invite to this place. Turns out he gets a text message from the, from the member saying, and we're playing Shini on Monday. You're in. When was this?
Starting point is 00:46:49 This was, this was, this was, this was, this was, he just graduated college. Okay, got you. Years ago. Yeah, years ago. He goes, we're playing it on Monday. You're in. Turns out Monday is his first day of his new job fresh out of college. Oh.
Starting point is 00:47:03 Okay. So now the question bears, at what point and what is worth missing your first day of work? Your first day of work when you've been basically waiting to play this golf course, a premier golf course in the world, you're getting invited out there. It's going to be a whole thing. It's a member. It's like a big swinging dick taking you out there. You've been waiting for years to do it.
Starting point is 00:47:23 it. Now, do you just, like, call up the place and say, hey, I can't work today? Like, can we, can we, like, think my first day or the next day? And then if they find out your golfing, is it a horrible situation? Turns out, this guy, well, let me get, what would you guys do? I think you got to go to your job, I think. I think if it were Augusta, you play Augusta. Okay. I think if it's Chinnecock is close, very close. He really has no opportunity. That's why he gets, like, so jealous of a foreplay the way, like, you're applying all these great courses. The regular golfer doesn't. You know. The regular golfer doesn't. doesn't just get an invite to Shinnecock.
Starting point is 00:47:55 You don't just... Nobody does. You don't get invited to Shinne. Shinny's fucking on that list of like nobody gets invited to... You don't... You'll never. It's a one and done. Once in a lifetime of invite.
Starting point is 00:48:05 See, yeah, it would be close to be like, hey, actually, I got a family thing that weekend and I'm not going to be back in town until Monday. Is there my first day, it could be Tuesday. That's what you do. You ask if you can just... Yeah, because you don't know the people there really, so you can just push my start date.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah, I messed up my schedule, this and that. Let's just push it one more day. I think you can get away with that. But if they find out that you're golfing, you're fucked. Fuck. That's so risky. You're golfing your first day. You push back your first day and you're playing golf.
Starting point is 00:48:32 The thing is, you're fresh out of college, so you have no experience. You don't know what to do. You don't know how to deal with things. You don't know anything. Maybe if it's like your fifth job, it's like, hey, these fucking guys won't find out. They don't care. I'm a veteran. I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Dude, and you spend a lot of like, even your last year of college, like trying to get that first job. Oh, my God. Clearly he's been like, this is my next step of my life. giving enough time to grow back in. Make sure you got a nice suit or whatever for the first day. Like, you're ready to go. And he's just going to miss it and play golf?
Starting point is 00:49:00 That's tough. So he decided to not go to golf. And he decided to go to work. Turns out he ended up working there for like six months. Ended up quitting. He hated the job. Well, and that's the flip side of it. Because now when he tells the story to people, even without the six-month thing,
Starting point is 00:49:15 people are going to be like, you should have just gone to golf. Like, life is far too short. That's the whole thing. It's like, Chris, you didn't like that job. That job was shit. That job meant nothing to your life. You'll never, you may never end ever, like ever go to Chinatock. And that was your one chance.
Starting point is 00:49:31 He said it's the biggest regret in his life. But it is. It is like, at that point you don't have that type of perspective. You're just like, this next thing is the biggest thing in my life. Any of us now who know that things don't really work that way would play the golf course. Right. I also, I mean, you got to think you could just say to the guy that gave you the event, I'd be like, look, dude, like, this is my first day at work.
Starting point is 00:49:51 First day. you gotta give me a rain check yourself you got to like it's my first day what could I apparently this guy is kind of like an asshole about it and he probably knew it was his first day and he's been dangling it in front of his face like hey man shenny's coming up and like finally he's like this is
Starting point is 00:50:08 your chance we're going on Monday you got the invite let's go and I mean man it was his first day of work it's so you're saying that Augusta is really the only place where it's a no brainer yeah yeah because I was
Starting point is 00:50:22 For whatever reason. I just think, yeah, I mean, for obvious reasons. I mean, it's Augusta. Like, you can't get on to Augusta. You just can't. It's possible. But the list is one? Like, is there any other golf course in the world where it's worth missing something as,
Starting point is 00:50:36 missing that big of an event? Or is there any events that are worth... I honestly think Augusta's the only one. Because the other ones that are, like, in the same breath as, like, Augusta in terms of them, like, just the allure and the history and all that are, like, public for the most part. You know, not everyone. Not just talking about first day at work. Let's talk about other events.
Starting point is 00:50:55 You know, someone's wedding's coming up and you get invited to Augusta. Is it something like your brother's wedding? Do you not go to the wedding? Are there certain events that you can miss to play golf? That's basically, that's what kind of like sparked this conversation with us with me and my body. I would say what event comes up that you would skip. Right. Like how far can we go?
Starting point is 00:51:15 Where's the line? Depends how close you are with your brother. Right. Like me, I'd have to go to my brother's right. Even though my brother's a huge golf, you'd probably be like, go play a gossip. I'd be like, I'm going to go to your wedding, dude. Right. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:25 I remember when the Islanders had a chance to be in the second. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, when the Islanders... We've had many Christmases. When the New York Islands had a chance to play in the Stanley Cup, I was doing the math. My sister was giving birth to her first child.
Starting point is 00:51:38 My first niece was going to be born. And I was doing the math. Like, if a playoff game comes on this day, I will not be there. I told them that. Luckily, for everyone, they lost. But there are certain things. if you have compassionate about it, you just got to make a stance. I mean, you can't care about something your entire life.
Starting point is 00:51:54 And then just because one day something comes up, you just don't do it. If your passion is to play Augusta National and someone just decided to just have their wedding on that day and you get invited on that day, you've been waiting your whole life to play something? So what you're saying is there should be no event that is too big for a golf course. It depends on how much you care about it. That's true. Like, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:52:13 What if like your wife's pregnant and it's like the due date is, like, you know, May 15th, and you get invited to play Augusta, like May 14th. It's a, there's a lot of things that go into that, right? So is it the first child, the second child? Because we even saw Clem, Clem, when we went to Vegas for the barstool for the bracket thing for March Madness. He had to deal with that, too. His wife was, like, given birth, like, do I go to Vegas? Like, what if she's giving birth?
Starting point is 00:52:40 But it was a second kid, so he was saying I could always just, like, take the flight back and she wouldn't be as mad. Like, she knew it was a work thing. So, like, it depends. Interesting. It depends. First kid. First kid. I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:52 oh, fuck. It's May 14th. You're going to be in Augusta. You're down there all day. No phones. I obviously want to say you just go to Augusta, but then you... There's a good chance you miss the birthday of your first child. Do you have a wife and kids to come back to?
Starting point is 00:53:04 Is it worse? And does it partially ruin the experience because you're so stressed out about what's going on back home? Like, that could be part of the Vegas thing with Klemmer. It's like, if it had been the first kid, you don't even have fun in the atmosphere because you're just worried about what's happening. Can we make this a calling card to all the listeners to, to, to, send in what events they've missed to play golf. Yeah, for sure. Like one of the biggest events people have missed to play golf.
Starting point is 00:53:24 I think that we'd be shocked that people... I mean, it's... And like, what are the lies that you tell about it? It also may be a very finite amount of people that are getting invited to these unbelievable places. Because if you're playing a public golf course to do something, then you're just an asshole. It has to be something life-changing, like playing Shinnecog or playing a Gustav. You're not going to get another chance.
Starting point is 00:53:41 Correct. I'm looking at Frankie right now, and the vibe I'm getting is there is nothing. There's no event that would stop him from going to play a gust of. or Shinnie. Shinnecock, I mean, Shinnock, I'd miss things. A lot for Shinnie. Shinny's up there, man. She's really hard to get on to.
Starting point is 00:53:56 I know it is. Really hard. Augusta National, man, to play there. And if it's like all expenses paid and they're sending you down, if it's like a crazy weekend like that, what if they invite you for like four days, you play? Like, hey, come play a version of the Masters. Like, we'll do the whole thing. 72 holes.
Starting point is 00:54:14 We're going to play the part three course. We're going to eat in a dining room. Yeah. You're going to sleep. the crow's nest, you're going to be like, no, I got a wedding. There's almost no event. That's your loser. I'll FaceTime them.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I'll pay to, like, have a setup. I'll face time them from, like, the parking lot. Hey, guys, congratulations. And congratulations. And they don't need to be able to be in the fucking wedding. I'll watch the video. I'll see the pictures. And I'll see the picture.
Starting point is 00:54:36 You're probably going to get divorced anyway. If the person in your life that is having the event is that important, they know how important it is to you to play. So what you're saying, your brother would probably be like, just go play. You can't miss your brother's wedding. I just don't think. That's so tough.
Starting point is 00:54:49 That's so tough. If I invited you to that four-day thing, you'd say no. I mean. Oh, man. It'd be such a thing that, like, you'd never, like, when your family's talking about it? Remember at Kyle's ready? I was golf.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I was playing golf. Yeah, but it wouldn't be just golf. But it, like, in people's great. It'd be such a hard style. Augusta playing four rounds. He slept there. He ate at the champion, he ate a champion-style dinner. They gave him a green jacket.
Starting point is 00:55:14 Like, the whole thing. You can tell me right now that they're not. There's like someone else is given your best man speech instead of you. And you're like, you're playing golf. You were golfing. You were like slamming clubs because you made a double on 12. And meanwhile, they're getting married. It's just tough.
Starting point is 00:55:29 It is tough. It is tough look. I think when it comes down to it, I probably wouldn't choose anything over it. But just to do the hypothetical, I can't imagine. I would hate myself for making the decision of not going to golf, but you'd have to, I think. Yeah. It would be tough. I think people are going to send us, yeah, send us some stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:45 People have some good stories. Yeah, I'm sure there's some. good stuff out there. Reminder, if you're playing golf and you're not using Supreme Golf to book, you are very stupid. I do want to say, we talked about this a little bit earlier, Frankie, where you were like basically does it like ruin golf for me if I'm not playing like somewhere sweet now?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Right. No, absolutely not, because I grew up playing just like I never had a membership anywhere growing up until I was well out of college and I could afford a junior membership somewhere. So I live, I almost like, I have better memories and a lot of better stories from like dog shit courses of like the funny stuff that happens of like shitty grass all around the greens like you have to hit like a little bump and runs off the cart path and stuff to like try to get it to stop on the course or on the greens um and so I'm actually on a mission this year that I because
Starting point is 00:56:30 of last year I was super excited about the podcast took a bunch of advice invites to play all these cool courses once that like we a bunch of us went to together sometimes other times I just went by myself uh I'm on a mission this year to play public courses in the New York area so what I need for people out there. And again, we're going to book all these tea times with Supreme Golf because they're the best if you're not using them. It just honestly doesn't make sense that you probably don't have a brain. There's a bunch of just...
Starting point is 00:56:56 You watch these Golf Channel commercials where they talk about Silver Lake all the time. You see this? No. Oh, we get these in New York all the time. This guy with like this, it's funny, like, accent. It's like this weird little accent. I don't know exactly what it is. But he always talks about Silver Lake Golf course.
Starting point is 00:57:10 I looked it up. It's obviously on Supreme Golf, $43. And it's only like eight miles away from the city. There's like a ferry you could take there. So I want to play Silver Lake really badly. There's this Lincoln Park West that has 4.5 stars on Supreme Golf. That is a very quick, like you take the path over. I think it's in like Jersey City.
Starting point is 00:57:29 I really want to play there. There's Cassina Park. Have you ever heard of that? No, this is all stuff probably north of the city, which I don't. There's like, they're all in different places. Right, right. This is like 37 bucks and 3.5 stars that's got in the app. Again, I looked at all this.
Starting point is 00:57:42 I just scroll through Supreme Golf. You type in your zip code, scroll through Supreme Golf. There's like a million golf courses. I got to take you out east of Long Island, too. There's one on every single town. You got Mill Pond, Tallgrass. There's a million places that are all on Supreme Golf that we can hit. So we got to hit a bunch of these.
Starting point is 00:57:58 We're going to do a bunch of reviews of just playing like your average common man public golf course. Forget, I mean, these greenspeas. Like I said, I'm reading off. 43 bucks for Silver Lake. 22 bucks after work at Lincoln Park. Cassina Park, 37 bucks I'm seeing. It's crazy. I just looked these up.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Again, if you're not finding all these on Supreme Golf, you're just a very stupid person. You are literally using something else that has a much smaller group of T-times, a much smaller offering of T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T. There's no reason to be doing that. Go to SupremeGoff.com slash barstool. Use the app, Supreme Golf, Supreme Golf.
Starting point is 00:58:32 We're going to be hitting a bunch of courses this year. We're going to be playing a bunch together. We're going to be reviewing the best courses in the New York area that are accessible, they're public, because that's where guys like us go play. It's going to be fun. It's going to be awesome. Speaking of going and playing golf, next up, we've got a full stream song review.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I was there with a couple buddies about a month and a half ago, and we all took notes. We got a lot of good things to say about it. This is another type of destination type thing that normal folks like us. A lot of people have heard a lot about stream song. You've seen pictures. Can it really be that good? We're going to talk all about it. Next up, we got the stream song review.
Starting point is 00:59:07 All right, we got something very interesting today on the ForPlay podcast. We have a stream song review. A lot of people out there, you probably heard about Stream Song. You've seen it. You've seen pictures pop in. Probably follow a bunch of golf accounts, Instagram accounts, whatever. You've seen Stream Song. It looks fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:59:22 It looks awesome. You've heard really rave reviews. It's this great, really unique golf experience. So we went. We went, what was it like? I think it was like six weeks ago. We went for some. I thought rather than me just sit here like a selfish son of a bitch and just talk about golf by myself for a half hour,
Starting point is 00:59:39 I bring in the guys that I went with. I got my buddy Lurch, Ben. Say hello, Ben. How we doing? You can feel free to talk into the microphone, too. Sure thing. Yeah, there you go. Oh, that's nice.
Starting point is 00:59:49 It sounds much better. Perfect. And we got my other buddy, Eric. Riggs, thanks for having me. Yeah, yeah, you got it. We call Eric E. Ben, we'll probably refer to him as Lurch, Ben, whatever, just so everybody knows who they're hearing from.
Starting point is 01:00:01 So I want to start. I mean, again, we haven't really done, like, a travel review thing ever on the podcast. Very unique, but it's also very natural for guys to just be chilling, like, talking about golf, talk about, like, where they play golf, how it was, blah, blah, blah. First thing I want to do, I want to talk about kind of what you guys consider when you book, when you're looking for a golf trip, right? Like, when you sit down and you're like, okay, we got four guys, we got an open weekend in late winter, what are we looking for?
Starting point is 01:00:28 Great question. And I was thinking about it, and I was looking. You think, like, location, access, blah, blah, blah. And I guess I was just trying to figure out, like, how much does, like, unique, you know, elite golf factor in, travel factor in? And then you start to look at, like, Stream Song. And basically the first thing that you got to know is that it's fucking out there. Yeah. It's deep.
Starting point is 01:00:52 It's deep. We flew into Orlando. E was already in. Where the hell were you in? I was outside Boca. Okay. Hey, hey. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:01:01 No big deal. That's pretty nice. Yeah, that is nice. That is really nice. So we flew into Orlando, which was. what, like an hour and 30, 45-minute drive from Orlando. If you fly into Tampa, I believe it's like an hour,
Starting point is 01:01:12 a little closer? I think so. Yeah. A little closer to the mic, which. Sorry about that. You're good, you're good. No problem. I appreciate the help.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Well, I mean, you guys are learning. We're not very professionally that you should see how often we fuck this stuff. I don't have the most beautiful voice, so that's why I want to take a little separation from it. No, it's not that you have a very loud voice. It's just out there. Yeah, so you're trying to get.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Just trying to hone it in. You're compensated. Be respectful of the mic. And the listener's out. You've hit a couple right. You're trying to go left. Exactly. Over compensation.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Don't want to get in your head, partner. We're a winning team, by the way. I don't know if he's going to share that yet, but. So I also should say. His partner didn't show. It was the three of us plus George Savaricus, who you might know from Gull Channel. He's currently hosting Golf Central right now, so he couldn't be with us. I did ask him.
Starting point is 01:01:55 This is going to be a little teaser, but I asked him for if he wanted to submit any input on the trip. And he said Nick was dope. Nick was our caddy, Tricky Nick. It was. Advantage there. Definitely won't meet your future wife at StreamSong. True. And then he said, great courses.
Starting point is 01:02:10 So that's George Saverikas's input. Thank you, George. George is my teammate for the week. But first thing you got to know, StreamSong, it's fucking out there. It's in the middle of Central Florida. You drive past, I mean, nothing. Dog shit places in Florida. Like Florida's already dog shit.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Orlando's kind of dog shit, to be honest with you? Except Boca. Boca's nice. But I mean, even Orlando is like this weird. We were talking about driving through Orlando. It's like this weird. like carnivalistic Las Vegas
Starting point is 01:02:38 like one of the big type It's a weird place That McDonald's was a wacky one Then you get a 45 minutes stretch Where you feel like you're in the movie Wild Things Yes Yes yep
Starting point is 01:02:49 So like not only is Orlando in the middle of nowhere Florida and weird But then you drive another hour and a half Towards like more central Florida And that's where a stream song is So it's out there And so that's a factor right out of the gate right Like convenience
Starting point is 01:03:03 How to get there Resort Golf So then you start to wonder like, okay, is it worth it for us to go like, you know, that far, whatever, two and a half hour flight from New York and then an hour and a half drive. You get there. The next thing you start to think about is like quality of golf, I guess, like I would think about it as like quality of golf. Like where does it factor? And this is what we're going to talk a ton about because the golf there is awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:25 It's a playpen. It's a playpen. It's a playpen. It's unbelievable. Three tracks, I mean, by three very different. but unbelievably renowned either golf architects or teams of architects because you got core crinshaw you got doke and then you've got gil hans who we had on this very show no big deal kind of a big deal um so we played all three it was kind of a weird way that the trip shaped up because at first we threw it
Starting point is 01:03:50 together last minute shout to stream song who was like unbelievably accommodating love stream song um they brought us down they helped us out we booked a trip like two or three weeks out and we weren't going to originally we didn't we just couldn't scheduling wise we couldn't play all three courses ended up Like last minute we just sold the farm. Screw it. Like we're not going out Friday night. We're going down Thursday night. First course we get to play the Red, which is the core Crenshaw.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Now, the three of us have actually played the core Crenshaw together, which is Friars Head. The best. Which is spectacular. Shout out Dave. Shout to our buddy, Dave. He's out there listening. He's so busy. He's out of this podcast right now.
Starting point is 01:04:27 Poor Dave. Sorry, Dave. He's just clenching his fist driving around somewhere in like Long Island right now. But we played front. So that was like the first time I'd ever seen a court Crenshaw. We're jacked up to play it. We get transfusions before we even tee off. Double transfusion.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Oh, no, no. We made our first mistake there. We didn't get the double transfusion. Yeah, you're right. We later to learn. It's weird because the first, like the first couple minutes of the trip, there's just so much excitement that. You're gassed up.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Yeah. You're running on a million miles an hour. You got the whole weekend in front of you. We're in Florida. You finally arrive at Stream Song, too. I mean, that can't be understood. You're driving for an hour in the middle of nowhere. And then you're just there.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah. It's awesome. It's, it's, you might as well be on the moon. Like, you're not in Florida. It's amazing. The terrain, and you always wonder, too, if they overdo it with the pictures, right? Like, a lot of the pictures that they show you of stream sung, it's these crazy, like, dunes, mounds, whatever the fuck you want to call them. And you're looking to be like, okay, that might be, like, one little section of the course.
Starting point is 01:05:26 That's some weird phenomenon. The whole place is like that. It's this wild terrain. Like I said, you might as well be on the moon. It's weird because you get to. stream song like when you're driving for an hour and a half it says you've entered stream song and it's like you still have eight miles ago you're like what still like 15 minutes yeah so anyways we arrive red course what were our initial what were ben what were your initial
Starting point is 01:05:48 thoughts on the red track so not seeing the other two i thought it was fabulous i think our mistake early which we discovered later is we should have played the tips yeah blue course you should play the tips from the second hole on because the first hole you have to walk about two miles now. Yeah, I forgot about it. It's an absolute hike. All up hill. And so if you're a little bit heavier, you're winded, now you've got to hit a T-ball. Lurch is a big
Starting point is 01:06:12 guy. Yeah, I'm a little overweight, but nobody's talking about that. It's not the podcast for it. But I will say the red course was fabulous. I think like each one of these courses, a little bit of picking straws of which one's best. Right. But I don't know if we're going to rank them right now or what you want out of this. Yeah, no, I guess like it's, it makes sense to say right off the gate, right off, right out of the gate, right off the bat, right of the gate.
Starting point is 01:06:37 That's it. Yeah, those two together. It's nice. I guess we should say before we nitpick them that like the three courses are among the best courses, all three of them. They're like, we've ever played. I think if you go, you have to play all three. Yeah, you really do. It's awesome.
Starting point is 01:06:55 That's a good point because looking, going into it, we were like, oh, we'll probably just play two of them because I don't know if we can swing Friday. have been a massive mistake, right? Yeah. And whether if you have to do 36 one day, you just got it, you got to play off. I will say the first tee shot on the red is awesome. Like you're standing on the T-box, fairways wide open. It's pretty much straight away. There's traps everywhere, but it's just like welcome to string song with fairways and like
Starting point is 01:07:15 plush grass and then sand everywhere. Yes. And another just because like we probably should do more of the generalities of the whole property is that they're designed in what, in the best most like amateur golfer friendly way, which is that they're wide open off the tea, even if necessarily, like, you get to a hole that the fairway isn't overly wide, which a lot of them are, like, you can't lose a ball. I don't think I lost the ball the whole weekend.
Starting point is 01:07:40 You know, there may be a couple holes, like a handful of holes where there is some water, but you can just avoid the water and blast it the other way. And if you're not in the fairway, you get like a little wispy, like sandy type lie, a lot of like waste area type stuff with like this white, crazy white like sand. So it's unbelievably friendly in the way in the sense that you can blast it off the tea And then it just gets tougher around the greens So the courses aren't easy by any stretch the imagination But like you can always find your ball you always have a second shot which is what you want
Starting point is 01:08:09 Which means you know you could be a 25 handicap and dribble it out there You could be a scratch golfer and like and challenge yourself and whatnot So all of them are like that I thought and all of these three architects that we're talking about are like pretty well known for Designing courses that way Friars had very soon Simmore. And so, again, for us, just right out of the gate, all the courses are like that, which is very fun. The red, I thought, you know, it was weird in that, like you said, like, we're not all, like,
Starting point is 01:08:38 scratch golfers, but it every, almost everybody agrees that every course is better from the tips. You just get, like, the course, like, the true way it was meant to be played. And we hit it far enough that it was like, I think we kind of did ourselves a disservice by not playing the tips. Yeah, we didn't see the entire course. the entire layout. We didn't realize that until the next day, though, when we played Blue, and we took it back all the way and realized, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Yes, and we did that. So it's the first T-box. The first T, it is one of those where you walk. I mean, it was a good, like, six or seven-minute walk up to the top of this dune. Then you hit one drive, and you walk back down. It's like, well, I mean, come on, guys. Like, what are we doing? You're just gas.
Starting point is 01:09:16 I haven't even started yet. The red, I thought, so I went back through, I did everything whole by whole. You know, our original, our original, my mind. original take and I think most of us but we'll get into that was that the red was my third favorite the blue was my second favorite and the black was my first favorite keep in mind Gilhance on this show might have a bias towards them good buddy of mine we text no we deal even like looking back I was trying to go through and be like okay why did I what did I love the red the least because I did love it is awesome and I just thought there like a handful
Starting point is 01:09:47 of holes that were forgettable you know I was thinking like there's a big gap in That's that I can't even remember. You're right. Yeah. Right. And now that it's been like five or six weeks, you know, it's a testament to the course. If you're, if you can go back and remember every single hole or if you can't. I think E and I were a little nervous, though, going in since we were winless as a team.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Yes. So first course, first T-box, looking down the fairway, he and I met each other over the last couple of months, had play golf, love it. But when you're winless with a counterpart and you're like, we're on a stream song trip, we're 0. and three maybe going into this time. And there were so multiple times there for us. Definitely. And I was pouring in pots.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah. It couldn't help. And so we started out in the red. We also made some terrible mental decisions on the red course. On the ninth hole, if you remember when they say there's food, but it's like buried in the trees. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Because there's tacos sporadically throughout all of strings on. It must be a taco truck. And we missed it. And somehow, but it's like in the trees and like anyways, we were unsure. That was on George. It's like a 200 clear over bunkers. And you are like,
Starting point is 01:10:51 okay, we're down one. but we both get strokes here, like, let's just manicure this thing into winning this hole. And I think I pulled out a seven iron. And almost put it in the fairway bunker. Yes, which it was just... Then we have to sprint up to see the green. Because we both played up, right? You were right there with me.
Starting point is 01:11:07 I followed you. You're my partner. We're a teamer. I want to... Is this the ninth hole or the tenth hole? That's the ninth hole. The ninth hole, this was a legendary where it's like 280, 2.80, 2.90. You were first to play.
Starting point is 01:11:18 You both sprayed your drive. So both of us were like, maybe we can take advantage here. You guys literally on a par four, you'd like two or three down and you hit seven irons. We're on vacation on a 280-yard par four and we're laying up. That was the most perplexing maybe decision. Shout out to court credential. They really mind-fucked you guys there. I mean, you guys didn't know.
Starting point is 01:11:36 We were in a dark place. Yeah, a lot of factors at play. That back nine. Let's talk about it. See, I liked. I liked, yeah, the back night wasn't good for you guys on Friday. I liked that hole. I thought that hole actually.
Starting point is 01:11:50 That hole stuck out. lot of transfusions. Because you guys played it so weirdly. And then once we got up to the green, I thought that that hole, it made a lot more sense. It was like this tiny little sliver of green, huge bunker guarding the green. And it was like that hole, I thought was actually a very memorable hole. There were a couple holes, like two or three or four holes in a row after that one. That, again, are just like, I just don't even remember them.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Shout out to that picture, though, you took. I mean, so post those seven irons, we had a nice little trot to the ground. I'm a little bit bigger than E. Yeah. So we're both ex-goaltenders, though. We've got a love for hockey. Okay. We had a nice little trot up to the green, scouted out the 100-yard shot.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Again, coming back, a little exhausted. I think I sculled the wedge. Yeah, you did over the green. Yeah. Yeah. So that was tough moment for you guys. I will say, though. These things factor into your thoughts of the course. Yes.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Like, right, when you're like, don't play it well and you're all fucked up. Or you're like nervous. You're like mentally black out three holes. And you're like, oh, my God. Riggs, I will say, we carried our clubs there. And I know you're not the biggest fan of caddies. but I will say that I think caddies are pretty important. I saw a lot of guys walking out there, so it must be pretty popular, carrying their own bags.
Starting point is 01:12:53 But I think it's important to take caddies for that exact reason where we had no idea. We were blind going in it. I think that was a big factor in our kind of like viewpoint of the Red Course too is the only round of the three that we didn't have caddies. We were kind of going blind. Like you said, we just hopped out of the car. They're like, we're like somebody's throwing transfusions in our face. Let's go. And then next thing, you know, we're like, don't remember half the hole.
Starting point is 01:13:16 We also, we had a weird detour in the back nine where, which we, I forgot that. If you, for anybody out there that's played stream song before, there's a section where you hit, there's two part threes or you hit over water. The clubhouse is like well over to the right. They're these gorgeous, kind of like the signature shot of the course, these huge dunes, water, you hit over the water. And there's two par threes that are right next to each other. One's on the blue course, the other one's on the red course. And we mixed up the two.
Starting point is 01:13:46 So we played the wrong golf hole late in the round on Friday, which is a bummer. It was like 14 or 15 red, and then we played seven blue, I think. Yes, exactly. Yep. You got a great shot there, by the way. Tight. The seven iron's so tight, like three feet. It was awesome.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And you guys. And then I'm droning the whole hole. And so I'm a little behind you guys. I walk up to the green. You guys picked up my ball and handed it to me. I was like, that's good. Like, we played the wrong hole. So then we had to walk back up the hill.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And I think you wind up collapsing. That was final. That was final four-old. I was upset. I want to say you were like three or four-over or something like that. I legitimately, no joke, I finished like bogey, double, triple to shoot like 81. And I was so upset. That was awesome.
Starting point is 01:14:29 So that kind of also plagued like the finish of our rounds that we like detoured, messed up the flow, finished in the dark, finished kind of in the dark. Also, prior to the trip, we should talk that there was like talks of lions or something. Panthers. Florida Panthers Florida Panthers. Yeah, because we have been talking about going out and we're like, yeah, we can play right up to dusk. We'll get a bunch of drinks out there.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Like, it'll be great. And George. Local knowledge. Scared us and was like, no, there's like Panthers. We're like, is this an African safari? Like, what are you talking about? And so sure enough, we saw, we didn't see Panthers. We saw some serious gaiters.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Good. Serious gators. So anyways, that was our view of the red. It was a lot like kind of the genera. that we already talked about, where it was very wide open off the tea, a lot of kind of strategic bunkering off the tea that you had to avoid, you had to make a decision, which we didn't have caddies, so we didn't know. So, like, off the tea, right, it was like, oh, you should either hit three wood short of that bunker, we didn't know. We're just rip it driver everywhere,
Starting point is 01:15:29 kind of flying by the sea of our pants. What was it that par five that's like the fifth hole or something where you and I both reached it in two, Benny? Yes. With that huge mound and, like, the front middle, right part of all. That hole was awesome. Awesome. No, I mean, it's a spectacular course. I don't want to downplay it at all. I mean, it was, Yeah. It's a top 10, 15 course I've ever played. It was awesome. It was spectacular.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I agree. All of them were. It was really cool. It was very core credential, a lot of, like, characteristics. Yeah. So anyways, then we rolled back. We checked out the rooms and whatnot for the first time. Spectacular.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Rooms are great. I mean, rooms are, it's a hotel type feel. It's very modern. Modern, but the rooms are great in that they've got, like, a little couch area. The showers were awesome. I will say weird kind of shades, like the slanted. They're doing. the modern thing. It's a big modern thing. Stream songs
Starting point is 01:16:16 doing the modern thing. You know, that's fine. I don't mind. No. And you look over like a swamp land. It's like a strange. A gator land. I mean, we saw a gator. I saw a huge gator swimming across in the morning. It's a weird way to wake up. You look out. You see the river. It's not welcoming. I'm like, oh, I spray my ball every time to the right. Let's go see what's over there. I literally could see like a dinosaur swimming in the water from my room. I was like, Jesus.
Starting point is 01:16:37 We saw that tail. That's all we saw. Tails is terrified. 30 feet long. Like that, they don't have those in New England. That's just not a thing. had a big dinner Friday night got very shit face found out the next morning there's a video of you like Ben twirling me around in one of those luggage cart things
Starting point is 01:16:53 it's true totally forgot like marching me around in circles we had some March Madness on so we went to the bar afterwards March Madness so again to get a great scene it's an all-male basically guys golf trip scene is like it's a compound
Starting point is 01:17:08 you can fish you can hunt and you can play golf like George's line of you're not going to find your next wife there. That's why he said that. Your first wife, hopefully. Yep. So, right. So we, you know, we had big dinner.
Starting point is 01:17:19 We went up to the bar. There's like a big rooftop bar, which is great. It's a fun scene. Again, you're not going up there to, like, try to, like, hook up with chicks. You go up there and you're like, oh, it's a bunch of, like, groups of four or eight on a big golf trip that are exhausted and sunburnt and drunk like us. This is great. And you're mucking up.
Starting point is 01:17:37 You're chatting everybody about the course. Which ones do you guys play today? What did you like the best? You know, like, it's that whole. You know, like it's that whole scene, so it's great. It's very fun. But you're not going out in the town. There's nowhere to go.
Starting point is 01:17:47 There's literally nowhere to go. At this point, I think, Ben, is this when you thought you could see Tampa? I didn't want to go into it. It certainly wasn't going to bring it up. But yeah, I had some side issues. We're up on the rooftop. Turns out I sound like a local, like, oil rig or something. It's like a power plant about a half mile away.
Starting point is 01:18:03 There's literally a power plant like a half mile away. And you could see, you know, it's lit up in a landscape where there's not much lit up. And he's like, is that Tampa? And we're like, Taylor is, like, I'm here to this whole thing, but this is a hundred miles away. It's like, what are you talking about? You know, the earth is like curved and you can't see it. So, again, we might have been drunk, whatever. It's not easily defensible on that.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Saturday was a big day. Saturday we popped up. We didn't have a tea time until like 1230, which actually worked out great because we buzzed over. We had 1230 on the blue course and we buzzed over to the black course and we played this day by far. Their short course. And the short course, six holes. Is that what it was? Six holes.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And it's like these very kind of like makeshift tea boxes that they are kind of like mowed into almost like the edge of the green of the previous hole most of the time. They move them around yardage wise. And so we just rolled over there and we had like three hours to kill. It's awesome. Grabbed a couple drinks. Rolled over the black horse is kind of a separate. It's a whole separate clubhouse practice facility. Yep.
Starting point is 01:19:08 And just, again, to get everybody, like, travel, let's be like professional golf travel podcasters. Okay. There's, like, shuttles that take you over there that are very simple. They pop right up when you're ready. Sometimes the service stinks at these things. These ones were great. Service was excellent.
Starting point is 01:19:23 No complaints. No, they drove you right where you needed to be, dropped you off. It's like a three or four minute drive over there maybe. Yeah. Hotels by itself. Yep. Same area. Complex?
Starting point is 01:19:34 Yep, complex. Great term. Very nice. And then the black is by itself and its own. Very new age complex. Even more modern than everything we talked about. Crazy modern. Like black clubhouse for the black of the horse.
Starting point is 01:19:46 With like these like kind of like mirror like windows that are black. It was crazy, but it was great. Worked. So they got the short course. Great. Its own practice facility range. And a big, what do you call it, like a putting course? No.
Starting point is 01:20:03 The gauntlet. The gauntlet where they do the- Corrected many times by people down there. No, it's a big. No, no, no, you don't just putt on the green. You go through the gauntlet. That's right. You go through the gauntlet.
Starting point is 01:20:14 So we did that, which is they have the cool little touch. Oh, we did that Sunday, but they had the cool little touch of the, they have the drink holders out there by the teas on the putting course. But we did the short course Saturday. We decided to do a three club. Shout up to the guy in the range who gave us. We were like, I think we're just going to do three clubs. Like, you don't need anything longer than like 140.
Starting point is 01:20:33 Yeah. And there were like two holes that were 160 straight into the wind. He fucked us. Totally. Fucked us. So we just decided, like, let's do a three club, like a fun deal. You know, we all brought like a pitching wedge, like a gap wedge and a, you know, or maybe like a nine iron, a gap wedge and a putter.
Starting point is 01:20:48 Couldn't get anywhere near the hole. Ben and I actually tried to hit putters. Yeah. Which I stick by this theory, okay? It was probably a 200-yard shot. Yep. Right? It was like 160.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah, you had a straight into like a serious win. Crazy win. So we tried to blade basically a putter. Yep. 4% loft. Not a bad idea. Drivers only like nine. Just math.
Starting point is 01:21:07 It's a numbers game. and just basically like kind of shanked them into the weeds. I don't even know if it's considered a shank. It's a week because it's not a normal. I mean, I barely hit my ball. It's a strange feeling with that putter going back. It doesn't look. It just doesn't look right.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Yeah. On the way back, you realize you're like this is not, I didn't. I mean, your Instagram stories or Snapchat stories or whatever, my swing looks, it looks like I was handicapped. Yeah. I mean, it's the least natural looking thing you've ever seen. I blame it on the putter. It's the right idea we just don't. They didn't know what we were doing.
Starting point is 01:21:38 But there's another hole that was, I think, what, 35-yard hole? Yep. That was, like, impossible. That's the hardest hole in the course. Straight-down wind with a massive, like, valley in between you and the green. False front, false front, false back. Yeah. Like, nowhere to hit the ball.
Starting point is 01:21:52 No way. George tried to put it and putted it off the green. No, we were laughing. It was that hard. Nobody got on the green. I was the first one to play. I was standing over my ball. I was like, I have no idea how to play this shot.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And then I think we all proceeded to make doubles on a 35-yard hole. Somebody made, like, a 10-footer for bogey to win a 35-yard hole. Huge. Great pod. So it was a lot of that, which again, that's like really adds to the playpen vibe, like the adult playground. You're just out there. Like, you could bring any clubs you wanted. We're the only ones out there, too.
Starting point is 01:22:18 I mean, like, there's a range. There's a whole practice facility right there. And then they have this six-hole go out and do whatever you please. Also, guys play the six-hole. And then they also make up their own holes, too, which is awesome. They go from, like, one T-box to the sixth hole or whatever the case may be. Or change it up however they want. You can really do whatever you please.
Starting point is 01:22:36 Like nobody's patrolling you. You're totally out by yourself. Can make any bad decision you play. And the greens are really cool, like unique and kind of like tricked out, which is what you want for like a wedge-only course, a couple double greens on there. So that's incredibly fun. Like mix that in if you go.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Surprise at how much fun we had on that thing. And again, it was almost like... Just dumb fun too. I mean, the wins really helped. It was like playing Tiger Woods with all the settings impossible and be like, let's go figure this out. So then we had a tea time. afternoon on the blue. This is where we first met our guy, Tricky Nick, a caddy.
Starting point is 01:23:11 That was bogus. You had some deal in there. You got an excellent caddy. Our caddy, I will shout it to him. He was great because he also chirped you and made fun of you. And I pissed you off, which was great, Van of Juste. See, that's so it's funny because we are... But I will say Tricky Nick seemed to have a little spice that our guy might not have had. Big time. But big respect to our guy because he was a winning catty. It's funny you said that about me and caddies because we already did a segment earlier on the podcast about my... Reputation with caddies.
Starting point is 01:23:36 My love-hate relationship, mostly hate with caddies. The looks that I've seen rigs getting caddies over the past year. I mean, if we're going back to Friarshead, should we talk about Friars Head? I don't know if you should. That wasn't my fault. It's not appropriate. It wasn't my fault. The guy left me in the middle of the fairway.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Anyways. The guy is there's something wrong. You're perfect. You're perfect. I'm perfect. It wasn't me. He was going through some family shit. That was our conclusion.
Starting point is 01:24:04 But Tricky Nick was great. Yeah. He was awesome. He was a recommendation from Alex Collarine, one of my good buddies, Tampa Bay Lightning. Good luck to them going forward. But that was an unbelievable. Oh, yeah. Rangers of the South.
Starting point is 01:24:16 It's okay. He's a huge devil's guy, so sorry about that. Shout out Taylor Hall. Great recommendation from Collarine. Tricky Nick, who is a legend. I believe he listens to a podcast now. He's out there. Awesome, awesome caddy.
Starting point is 01:24:28 Maybe the best catty I've ever had. He was just, like you said, his spice, his commentary. He's the most laid-back guy on Earth, which he's a lot. is a great yin and yang to me. And he's, yeah, big yin and yang to you. Huge. Sometimes, you know, you're a Peking Valley guy. Big time.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Not emotionally stable. And he was just to even keel the whole time. Yep. And he glides on that course. Glides around. Also, he tells you like 10 holes in that he's like a plus one or something like outrageous. I've seen it. So we all follow him on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:24:55 I've seen his action. His action's great. It's really nice. I mean, he just flushes the ball. Yeah, he's good player. So Tricky Nick was great. What was your guys guy's name, West or something? TBD.
Starting point is 01:25:03 Yeah, see, we'll have to get back to you on that. But, again, winning caddy. He was solid. No, he was good. You guys liked him. He was great. He was great. Wasn't it, Jeff?
Starting point is 01:25:11 No. But he was also a plus two. Caddyon the web.com. Riggs and I were talking. Shout out to stream song for having great caddies. So, E and I again, I hate to keep harping on my issue with caddies. Can you turn my volume up and just mute these guys out? Every caddy I've ever met is like barely the greatest golfer of all time.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Every caddy I've ever met. It's crazy. I mean, they can't be. Right. They all can't be that good. Right. Although Nick, shout out of that. Shout out, Nick. He's that good.
Starting point is 01:25:37 Yeah, it's almost like if someone's helping with, helping you with our nameless caddy, winning caddy, plus two. If someone's helping you with like your hockey game, too, they're going to be like, yeah, I'm a great player. I could have played in college and stuff too. You're never going to be like up a caddy. You're like, oh, I stink, but trust my reads out there. It's not, I don't know. I just feel like there. Decent point.
Starting point is 01:25:53 However, I've had a caddy before only care about like you who's on the course and he's like a 10-year-old. And you're like, I got to pay this guy at the end of the round to like miss numbers all day. Yeah, that's true. which gets into my whole crux A little. Cattie issue. Way different point. That's not good at that.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I love cats. Catties are great. Pro Cady. Sunshine is a caddy for a while, right? Once or twice, not like a big time. You're more of a turf guy. More of a turf guy, yes. That's right.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I forgot about that. No worries. So the blue course on Saturday, like Ben already said, right out of the gate, the jump. Yeah. Whatever you want.
Starting point is 01:26:28 I keep mixing that whole thing. Now I added a jump in there. That's fine. What did I say? We're out of the gate the first time. Oh, big language is. standing guys. So there you go up to the top of this giant dune, giant
Starting point is 01:26:37 dude. Yeah. I did think to his weird. Highest point on the course. I made us walk up there and there's a guy with a cart. Remember that? True. I think he was like just the starter but didn't collect any tickets. Not sure what his role was. Great question. I think they drew it up for him to bring us up there. I think
Starting point is 01:26:53 that's the idea of him being there and he just wasn't doing his job. I thought I wasn't alone there. Also we had just got two trannies. You got your driver in hand. Yeah. Kind of fumbling your way up there. And you're exhausted. Exhausted. Especially because you're excited, so you leave that par three. You're like, here we go.
Starting point is 01:27:08 Blue Court drinks, right? Yeah, we did. Double. Anytime you exercise and talk, it's just about impossible. So then you're like doubly winded. You know that scene where you're like, oh, no. Or you're like running with someone that's super in shape, and you have to, like, talk to them.
Starting point is 01:27:22 And you're like, I'm going to die in a three feet. The good thing, though, that fair weight is probably the biggest fair weight. Yeah, that helps. True. It helps. It's difficult to miss that fair. I will say, Ben, that brings you back to my hockey days when I'd be exhausted in one of your lineates where I talk.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Talk to you on the bench. They're like, buddy, shut up. I'm trying to, like, I'm dying for air over here. Goley, great position. Yeah, a couple goalers. Blue course was spectacular. I thought it was, it had a lot more sort of it felt like, even if it doesn't actually have more undulation changes, it felt like it did.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Again, that first mound, even right out of the gate. Shout to me for getting that right this time. Right out of the gate with the first mound and the first hole. Just a couple. You know, you play the par three earlier in the round, the seventh hole, I believe it is. Seventh over the water, the one that we played. Over the water, which is as good a part three as you'll play anywhere in the world. Bernie, Bernie there.
Starting point is 01:28:14 We did go. You and I went dirty, Bertie to have that hole. That was probably bogey double or something. Something like that, definitely. And then, you know, I thought it played into the dunes more than the red course. Even there's one hole where you kind of, instead of the green was sort of like, sunken down into the bottom almost of one of the dunes, which was a really cool landscape, like, hitting into that hole.
Starting point is 01:28:37 You couldn't quite see, like, the bottom of the flag, but with the backdrop of the dune, and there were a bunch of really good bunkering around it. The Tom Doaks or the greens were more tricked out than the red courses greens, but not as crazy as Gilhance's greens, which we'll get into. Wild stuff. But it was different.
Starting point is 01:28:58 It was, despite the fact that, like, the landscape and all that feels very similar. The course was noticeably different, I thought. Yep. And the finish, I mean, I thought maybe. Best finish in golf. Maybe my favorite hole on the course, on the whole property, was the 18th on the blue. I mean, it has to be mine. Incredible golf hole.
Starting point is 01:29:17 It has to be mine. So we did. Driver three wood, right? Yeah, because it was into the wind. Right. And we played the tips that day. Because we decided to play the tips on blue. And it was, I mean, we were 230 out or something like that on 18th.
Starting point is 01:29:32 Hold on. Are we talking about when I? Yeah. Yeah. So I thought both hit drivers out there into the wind, you were kind of doing the like the intimidation thing because you were like 20 yards in front of me and you were just kind of like looking up the fairway,
Starting point is 01:29:45 hands on hips, and I was like, oh, this little turd. Yeah, I was. And so I'm standing back there with like a three wood. Actually, I don't know where my caddy was at this time. I think he was helping any off of the right, but I was by myself. Okay. And I was the only thing that I had going through my head was F Sam.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Like, this kid sucks. You guys are one-up at the time. Yep. and you were stroking I believe you brought out your I believe you brought out a three iron and then you hit first yeah I hit a three wood
Starting point is 01:30:14 stuff mine to like eight feet no big deal missed the pot not a great butter and it was an awesome shot because this hole they have fits perfectly into just it's a very it's obviously a long hole and it's got almost like a cross section of bunkers that were like
Starting point is 01:30:28 100 yards out and then another bunker like almost like a pop bunker kind of directional type bunker like 20 or 30 yards short of the green that very clearly and it's all like firm and fast right so the green kind of sloped left to right and it it basically forces you to decide because he knows you're going to be a long way out you're probably going to skip something up there to go left or right to the bunker the pin was like left and benny hit one just like 10 yards left of the green that landed like 10 yards short took the hill perfect shot everything falls down left right it was perfect it was unbelievable exactly how how he drew up the hole is how you played it um and then i you know we got into we got into a debate about this afterwards i don't know that shut you down this whole thing you you definitely well i was in between a three wood and a three iron yeah and you guys thought tricky nick and i thought that if i jumped on the three iron it'd be perfect if i flushed a three would it'd be too much i'm too strong and i just kind of like it's like chunk bitch slapped the three iron's awesome short right
Starting point is 01:31:28 and i made bogey yeah you made a pathetic two putt par from six feet. Yep. And that was the match. Yep. But that hole, I mean, the clubhouse, the backdrop is the clubhouse and kind of that water and that scene with that hole. And again, even like that, those cross bunkers kind of build like this valley back
Starting point is 01:31:48 up towards the green. That's a beautiful finishing hole. Oh, that hole is awesome. And you've got the massive dune that we talked about on the left. Right. Where you hit your opening T shot. So you're just kind of like, you're soaking it all in. And I thought that that course and that finishing hole, that I think,
Starting point is 01:32:02 that 18th at the blue course might be the best hole in the whole property. Yeah, I will say 18th black course is a nice finishing hole too. Our match was destroyed at that point, so it lost some of the luster. Yeah. Not your best round there that day? I played bad on Sunday. But I will say both those holes, I'm trying
Starting point is 01:32:18 to remember Reds 18th. Can you remember that? Yeah, it was dark. Par five. It was darker, par five. It was a big bunker left. A little bit of a dog leg left, but, you know, that approach that's uphill, though, I think. Yeah, it was tough because it was like uphill. Yep.
Starting point is 01:32:35 You like two or three jack to make 81 or something. You kind of blew that. No, you know what it is? I hit a wedge over the green into the back bunker and then... You chunk something. Shunk something and then scald it over the green and made triple. True. So all great finishing holes, really.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Every course, great finishing holes. Phenomenal finishing holes. So anyways, that was, that's the blue course. That was the doke, which is, again, it's got the really cool kind of wild, creative greens. You know, and it was, again, I thought it played off the ducous. dunes more and it was just it had a spectacular finish it was great again then we we cranked a great dinner it's a nice steak dinner wait hold on one sec we go in oh tiger this is you're right this is when tiger this is back yep third round oh god the whole club's watching him coming pins and needles i mean
Starting point is 01:33:24 everyone's cheering yeah it's all time the bar was erupting with every shot tiger it's all master's at this point Tiger's going to win the Masters Everyone, it's just It was like we were watching a USA World Cup game Because everyone was on the same side Like erupting with every shot that he hit And then we went out and did There's another little nugget I wrote down
Starting point is 01:33:42 The 19th hole, they have a beautiful 19th hole Like playoff hole We played it like 13 times I think It's awesome played it forever We even let groups play through it Also hammered so we're just chunking them in the water Each time we're spraying them left It's like over water and you're right in front of the patio
Starting point is 01:33:55 And Barre scene so it's a pretty intimidating shot Also it's right below the blue T-box on the back side of one. So there was talk of walking up there which was psychotic and thank God we never did that. I shut that down. Shout to me. I was a big anti. Was George on that train? I think it might have been the George
Starting point is 01:34:11 train. It was like no we got to go up and hit him up there. I was like George. Sounds like a 30 minute hike up to the top of that. What are you talking about? So anyway, we didn't do that. But it's this really, really cool like green up against the water up against the backside of that dune that we've already talked about at nauseam.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Just goes right back to a guy's play pen. I mean, And literally that place is set up just to hang out, have beers, play golf, relax, do whatever you want. It's perfect. And so then, again, they have like two or three different restaurants. So we hit a different restaurant Saturday night. It was lovely. We got some wine. We did a classic, the losers of the match that day, buy dinner.
Starting point is 01:34:45 So we had to buy dinner on Saturday, which is a tough sled. But, I mean, that's just, that's what happens. It's what happens when you lose. It's tough one to six feet. Then March Madness. We popped up to the bar, watched some more March Madness. I think we lost every bet we made. Then we went out.
Starting point is 01:35:00 They got the nice fire pits. Yeah. Oh, how good are the fire pits? How many ants are we talking about, though? A lot of ants out by the pits. Some good conversation, though. I think I was wrong again in this topic, but my nightly conversation was actually pretty bad. First, the city guesses, way off.
Starting point is 01:35:17 And I actually don't know many ants there were, but based on the fire reflection of the kind of, like, awesome glass stones, look to be ants, not sure if it actually was. Again, drinking a lot of stuff. Yeah, we were drunk. Also, you just seem pretty disinterested in general what we were talking about. That's right. Yeah. I don't know if you were just blackout or you exhausted all your energy to try to win that match or whatever happened.
Starting point is 01:35:36 Either way, the winner, winter, winter. But they got these gorgeous fire pits with benches around them, and you're just sitting out there having a couple drinks. It's Florida, so it was like 65 degrees. You're talking about the round. You're talking about Tiger. I mean, right. You're just everything you want. It's just conversation you know.
Starting point is 01:35:52 At that time, Tiger Talk was just the best. It was so good. I watched every Tiger YouTube video there possibly is. Yeah. And you know you're getting ready to wake up the next day and you're playing Bethpage, or I'm sorry, you're playing Stream Song Black. Yeah. A lot of Black lately. Playing Stream Song Black.
Starting point is 01:36:07 So you're just, you're sitting there. You're hanging. You're like, God, this is like, this is so worth it. I'm so glad we came all the way down here. Where are we? Like I said, you might as well be on the moon because like the terrain around you. We were even, we started getting pretty drunk and like scaring each other into thinking like gaiters were coming through the weeds. Panthers maybe again.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Another panther scare. But the whole deal, you're thinking, you start to see. think you see like two eyes in there you know so there's a lot of that going on again we might have been intoxicated we are we going to talk about your ankle oh I forgot I busted up my ankle that was the first night wasn't it was that the first night I think that no it was night too yeah going to we thought you were going to miss the final round
Starting point is 01:36:43 I'm pretty positive that was night one I'm almost 100% positive it was TBD on that but regardless yeah I had in our in our wasn't as bad as Tony Fienow but it was It was close. It was up there. In our walk back to the room.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Yep. This is when I spun him. Ben had been spinning me on the luggage cart and then I jumped on his back walking down the hallway. You know, kind of playful. And George tried to take off my knees, though. Yeah. Because you're a big guy. We're trying to take you down.
Starting point is 01:37:13 He's a tiny little guy. I was out of it. Way ahead. Strong as an ox, though. And Ben slammed me down in the hallway. Got rid of both you and George quickly. And my ankle, I mean, it looked like somebody had sewn a baseball into my ankle. Yeah, it was good.
Starting point is 01:37:26 and I was like trying to ice it. I was cursing you, but cursing myself or jumping on you. You actually came to Dr. Ben. I kind of healed you that night, if you remember. That's right. You really gave you back ice. So then we were drinking beers in the room. It's huge.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Yeah. Drinking beers in the room and like trying to heal my ankle. Woke up and it had, the swelling had gone down enough and I was fine. I could play. It didn't affect my play whatsoever. And so anyways, I had the ankle issue. That's right. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:37:52 Ancles are still kind of messed up from that for being honest. A couple tendons are tight. Anyways. Tough to fix it next one. Sunday. Stream song black. There's not that many courses that are called the black course. Totally.
Starting point is 01:38:06 Probably a couple. There's really only one. There's one true one, Beth Page, and then Streamsong Black. Yeah. And it's new. Stream Song News, the Stream Song Black is new, so it hasn't really registered in the brain yet. But anyways, and it sits over by itself more. As we mentioned earlier, it's got its own little complex.
Starting point is 01:38:24 So we rolled in there. We did the whole gauntlet thing. went through the gauntlet. Yep. Gotlet's great. Yep. Very fun. Crazy, crazy,
Starting point is 01:38:32 undulations and all that. Yeah, that's awesome. But not even close to the black course. It's like a warm up to what you're going to see on the greens. Yeah. Yes. It's like this is different. Welcome to different.
Starting point is 01:38:41 Now you're going to go to the black course. And if you three jack on a hole, it's like a win. You do think like on the gauntlet, you're like, this is crazy. I imagine if a course is like this. And then all the greens are like that on the black. Very expansive, just kind of like, wowing property on the black.
Starting point is 01:38:59 It feels like it's like the only golf course on Earth at that point, and there's just endless territory on both sides of every hole. I'll say the views were like sneaky good of the clubhouse for Black, too. Like just in various spots on the course. I thought it was just, it was great, great views of back to the clubhouse or of the surrounding land. No liquor before 12, though. True. Found that out.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Oh, but somebody gave us one. Then she got in trouble for giving us one. Huge move. from her childhood streams zone, bending the rules a little bit for the boys to get a couple transfusions pre-round. That was big. That was very big. That felt great.
Starting point is 01:39:35 And then, yeah, we played the black. We decided not to tip it out of the black because it's like 74, 75 from the tips. So we played it was like right at seven, which I thought was perfect for us on the black. I mean, the black was my favorite. I thought it was the best combination of everything that we've kind of already talked about. You know, wide, very invite. riding fairways. The greens are, you know, they're gigantic with, you know, 15 different places on every green that they could put a flag stick.
Starting point is 01:40:08 And they do. You can tell, like, I mean, you, you, you can have 150 foot putts on some walls. Yeah. It's like in a hole. Whatever. Is it the ninth? It's the big punchbowl green. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:18 Yes. What hole is that? Is that the ninth? I think it was the ninth with the windmill. Yeah. I mean, that was unbelievable. That also, I think it's important to note that. Made a seven there, no big deal.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Expectations-wise, everyone was telling us that the black was their least favorite. Yeah. So what we were hearing was that the course really hadn't grown in fully yet. I think it's fairly new. I think it's three or four years old. Yeah. I think it's less than that. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:40:41 I think it's like two years old or a year old or something like that. So the grass wasn't really there. The greens weren't there yet, but we didn't have that experience at all. It is interesting. So cool and different. I loved it. Yeah. And it was interesting that most people said, like our caddies were telling us, Tricky Nick was telling us,
Starting point is 01:40:54 that most people go red number one, blue number two, black number three. And we were the opposite. Right. So that's interesting. I mean, I think it's kind of a testament to the property that, again, all of these courses are like, once you get them above and in the top echelon, which they are, then you're kind of nitpicking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Right. It's not like Beth Page where there's a clear hierarchy and you know what you're playing. Exactly. This was like they're all up there, pick and choose on any given day. I mean, we could go play them all again and have a completely different order. Yeah. Like I wouldn't be surprised. I would love to play red from the tips again and just get a different perspective or reverse the order and play black first.
Starting point is 01:41:30 I guess you just do blue in the middle again. And then red. I agree. I think that'd be nice. But the black, again, it was, I feel like almost every hole is very memorable. The par three on the back nine, that was like the shorter one with the nineer. And it was, what is it, 15 or something like that? It's late in the round there.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Yeah. That hole, that little one-shotter was awesome with the bunkering, the green, converse. tour. The 17th, which is that part three, was kind of a long part three, wasn't it? Yeah, and that's downhill, isn't it? Yeah, with the giant, like, the whole left side of the green is almost like a funnel that kicks your ball right, which, again, was a massive green complex. It was almost like a mini fairway is the whole green where you got to kind of work the
Starting point is 01:42:15 slopes to get your ball close. And then the 18th, which we kind of already talked about, but the iconic, like the clubhouse sits kind of on the highest point. You can always see it from different areas, and it's this cool, modern, like, very unique look. And the 18th, just this gorgeous par five with, like, a dog leg right at the end. Incredible approach. Over some water. All down the right-hand side.
Starting point is 01:42:35 Get some good drone footage there. Amazing drone footage. Great droneable. Very droneable spot. Very droneable area. One of the most dronable areas in the world. You know, again, I just thought that the black had such a, it had such an expansive feel like you were just, like, you could hear. your ball anywhere.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Like it was this free-flowing, free-feeling, just gigantic property. It was almost like the blue. The blue and the red could be like any, like they could be 10 miles away. Yeah. And you would have no idea. Yeah. It was just, and again, I thought that added to kind of the experience of the black where it was like, all right, we're over here doing our own thing.
Starting point is 01:43:14 I'm trying to think on like a hole by hole. Do you see many other holes when you're playing the black? It didn't feel like that. It felt like if you were on a hole, you didn't see many other people really either. No, it didn't feel like you did at all. on a like one single hole by yourself and then you get to the next hole and it was the same thing it was very private feeling totally just awesome it was that course I love it was almost like we couldn't we didn't see another person the whole time we're out there despite the fact that you're at
Starting point is 01:43:35 like a resort yeah in reality you're at like you're playing resort golf pretty commonly it's like zero sea level you know right like perfectly flat but somehow you can't see anyone next to you 100% and and again that kind of speaks to the fact that it's like it's not florida golf it couldn't be further from florida golf um so we love that golf course and we got our asses kicked there we played terrible. Unreely. Just played like dog shit. Oh.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Go goalos. Go. Shout out to Gillie put in a double green, a two green hole, which is, I believe, a little ode to Pine Valley. But it was, I don't know, I can't remember the numbers off the top of my head, but they had, yeah, literally your approach shot, the greens are like 50 yards apart. And one day they use one green, one day they use the other. True.
Starting point is 01:44:21 Which I think that was the first time I've ever played a hole. like that. So that was crazy. And then that hole was followed up by that really, really tough driveable par four with just death bunkers on the left. I think you guys both went out of bounds there. Well, we went into those left bunkers and we're just like, you know, you get like these crazy lies over there.
Starting point is 01:44:39 It took us like two or three to get out of that. That green is insane too. With an insane green. That's a silly green. Just like false everywhere, false front, false left, like little like knob there where the ball just runs off. which again is a very cool like risk reward par four where it's like you could hey dude you could have hit a five iron and a and a little like 60 degree wedge into the middle of the green
Starting point is 01:45:00 and made part instead i'm over here hacking it around like one leg in the sand one leg on like a dune like what am i doing we tried to teach you on friday we showed you the strategy of how you play short courses yeah you guys go seven iron skull a wedge make double yep do we have that hole though probably i think we lost that one um But overall, again, those were, it's weird that we all had the same rankings, I think, especially because they had told us going in that they were going to be, you know, that most people prefer them. I mean, you play off one another a little bit, though, like, because you're feeling the same experiences, you know, like, you start talking about how great something is and then generally you just go down that same path together a little bit. Right. We knew right away with black, though.
Starting point is 01:45:40 I think the first three holes. The second or third hole is that great part four. Yes. With that great approach. That hole is incredible. And we were like, we were blown away. That's true. We were like, this is worse.
Starting point is 01:45:49 That was right. top the five iron into the hazard. Then you went up and down. Then I got up and down. Yeah. That was a miracle. But that was like I was, that was as excited as I've ever been for a long iron approach shot.
Starting point is 01:45:59 I was awesome. I was totally topped that. But that course, God, that course was spectacular. And just really the whole property. I mean, if you're,
Starting point is 01:46:09 it's so fun to play around those greens. We hit these little pitches. Like you don't have to just attack, like you don't have to hit like a flop at the hole every time. You just literally, you can be like, hey, dude, like use this giant slope. And you can get it down to eight feet.
Starting point is 01:46:19 try to make a pot and the greens are perfect. Like they rolled soap here. They're kind of like that sandier, kind of like wispier stuff. They're sneaky fast over there. They're fast. I don't know about you guys, but I couldn't get the feel from the entire three days we were there. They just, the way they look compared to every course up here, it looks kind of dried out, a little bit sandy, and I just, everything was by the whole.
Starting point is 01:46:43 Yeah, 100%. It was very tough to get the feel. And it's that different grass, right? Like when we don't play down there. That Bermuda. Yeah, and like talking about that. Up here, it's just we don't get any of that. Everything is so sticky.
Starting point is 01:46:54 I mean, I chunk probably six to ten shots. You were grinding early with the wedge or average. Oh, my God. I remember that. And it really kind of encourages you to play with it. Got to have an honest approach here. I mean, we won, no big deal. You're right.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I would have four chunk wedges and I'm just here for you. You got to have the bump and run thing, which E, you don't love the bump and run. I hate the bump and run. You're not a hero player. It's a skill. It's a skill. I mean, bump and run is a skill. Different type of skill.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Yeah. But again, it speaks to the fact that when you're down there, it's a different, it's different, you have to adapt, and it becomes incredibly fun once you do. And the courses. I mean, the punch bowl green is like a roulette table. I mean, literally, the ball just, you could spin it around and around and around and around. Like, you could hit it around the green or it would kick you back in the feet. I had a nine iron in, and I did a one-handed disgusted follow-through.
Starting point is 01:47:43 I got up there, I had four feet. Yeah. We made you put it. You missed it. It was unreal. Missed it by a mile. I have it on video, too. So good.
Starting point is 01:47:49 drone that one. No, the drone was freaking out at that time. Yeah, the drone's beeping. I was, I was disoriented. God, I wish I would have made that. I would have been a lot cooler. Yeah. The windmills turning, churning in my back swing. Nick was shocked. We made you put that too. I know he was. That was actually him rattled. I think he was a little bit. It was the first time he's ever been like, begging for punts for his team. Yeah, he was. It's a good caddy. See, I don't mind that. It's not a classy move now. Tricy Nick, my guy. Overall, I mean, it's just, just unbelievably worth it, in my opinion. Anybody who's a golfer, you've heard about it. If you have a golf trip, anything, with guys, like, you go down there.
Starting point is 01:48:28 Like, you've got to give it a shot. It's all golf. Yes. Completely, like, safe, too. You know, if you just, like, want to go have drinks to your buddies and enjoy it, like, it is the perfect stuff. No one's going to bother you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:38 It's, it's, I would say, give yourself three or four days to really soak it up. Because, like we said, the short course, really fun experience. You could spend half a day just playing the short course over and over. you know the whole scene there like you want to get the full experience the patio bar the rooftop bar all the different restaurants playing the three different courses like playing them not in a rushed manner but in like all right let's sit back and play these courses you know it is the the lodging and stuff is a bit on the expensive side like it's totally worth it I don't think that's even close but I think that controls the amount of play
Starting point is 01:49:14 too which is awesome because I don't know how often they put people out on the T-sheet but it doesn't seem like a public dog track that's like doing every seven minutes. Yeah, it felt like you didn't see many people. So I don't know if they do like 11 minutes because you can only have so many golfers. You're in the middle of nowhere. It's totally restricted by how many people can stay in the hotel.
Starting point is 01:49:32 I mean, it's a long round just because it's a tough course to walk. But I don't think we waited very often. I agree. Yeah, no, I agree. I thought the pace was great. It just everything, like any negative stigma you have about resort golf, this didn't exist. It just wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:49:47 It was a pure golf trip paradise. Yeah. It didn't feel like you were getting watched at all, too. Like, you know, if like a fancy resort, sometimes you feel like, you know, you shouldn't do this or that. You were totally by yourself, could do whatever you please. Like, it was all golf, all high far. We were very irresponsible and never felt like self-conscious about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:06 We were like, good, controlled fun with a lot of drinks. Right. And like, we weren't going to hurt anybody, but nobody bothered us. And like right out of the gate, we're like, can we get like a couple drinks before we tee off there? You guys want doubles? Yeah. We're like, yeah, be great. Sure do, actually.
Starting point is 01:50:19 You know, they just like, they got it. Actually, shout out to the bartender. It's cheaper, way cheaper to buy a double in the clubhouse than it is on the course. You're right. A little trick there. Well, that's why we load up. Y for everybody traveling down there. Travel tip.
Starting point is 01:50:30 A double is like half in the bar is what it is into. That's why we loaded up two on one of blue. I just saw my first flash of a hand sign from producer. I had no idea what that meant. Sunshine's doing hand signals over there. Does that mean we're done? Little, no, no, little like. That made me panic.
Starting point is 01:50:46 Confession? I don't know what the fuck that means either. I just shake my head. Can we get some info? I assume it means we're going long or something like that. Is this a sponsor? That's throwing a sponsor. It doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Couldn't possibly matter less. We'll talk about it later, sunshine. Anyways. I'm a big Jimmy V guy. So when he gives that speech and then I forget, but somebody's flashing signals of like, you got to shut up. Oh, yep. And he's like, he gives some Italian phrase and he's like, buddy off with you.
Starting point is 01:51:11 And then he gives his three things to do. Yes. I love that. He's like, buddy, I got this fucking guy flashing. and he's like, I've been fighting cancer. I'm going to die. He's like, you think I care about your signal? Unreal.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Go, listen to that speech. No offense, sunshine. That's kind of how I do it. It's one of the very similar moment right now. That stream song, you know, try to give us honest of a review as we can. You know, E and I were actually talking on Saturday, and we were like, we actually believe that the golf there is underrated. As much like praise as it gets.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Okay. It's even better than that, I thought. Okay. So I don't know the social. golf praise that it gets. Okay. But yeah, I mean, it should get as much praise as, like, it's phenomenal golf. Why, did you see somewhere that, like, someone said it's okay?
Starting point is 01:51:55 No, no, it's just that it gets, like, you go in almost expecting to be. Wow. Underwhelmed. Okay. Because of how hyped it is. Okay. Like, the pictures and how, like, it just looks majestic. And you're like, they must be showing the best imaginable version of this place.
Starting point is 01:52:11 It can't be that good. And it's that good is that good is what I thought. especially for being in the middle of Florida and all that. So anyway, that's stream song. Benny, thank you. Thank you. Thank you to stream song. Thank you to stream song.
Starting point is 01:52:24 I mean, for having us. It was a great trip. Incredible time. Appreciate you guys. George, thanks for coming. Appreciate it. Georgie. I'll reiterate, Georgie's three notes.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Nick was dope. Definitely won't meet your future wife at Stream Song. Great courses. Yep. Nice winning. I think that sums it up. Go, go. Golly skill.
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