Fore Play - "Get in the bunker!" Week w/ David Feherty

Episode Date: February 27, 2018

David Feherty rejoins the show this week to give his takes on rowdy golf fans, the golf ball debate, the upcoming season of "Feherty," and much more. The guys also debrief following their TV debut on Golf Channel's "Morning Drive" last week and breakdown their feelings on Justin Thomas having a fan ejected from the Honda Classic (then winning), the state of Tiger's game, and the port a potty situation at Tour events!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We've got all three of us in studio. It's Trent Daddy. Hello. Frankie Brelly, Pizza Maker. So. Frankie's been on, Frankie's having a big day.

He's got Islander's drama going on. He's getting chirped by everybody you can imagine left and right. This happens to me every fucking year. He told me earlier he has not eaten a thing today. I've had Cheetos. I've had these weird pretzels that were getting, you know, like the Honey and garlic ones. It gives you such bad breath.

I don't know why we order things that give you bad breath in the office. What are you going on like a stress? Starvation. I'm not kidding. I've been so stressed out today. I just forgot it. Has it ever happened to you? Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Big time. Of course. Yeah. I do. But when I get nervous before things, like when we go make our TV debut on golf channel, I get, I don't eat for a while because I get, like, stressed out. I don't want anything to go wrong.

I don't have to go to the bathroom, so I don't eat. Yep. I'm huge with that with breakfast. I know if I'm going to have eggs. I can sometimes I upset your stomach. Yeah, I've been eating two hard-boiled eggs for breakfast, and when we did the Golf Channel, I didn't eat anything because I was like,

if I eat these and they're bad, I'm going to have to take a shit while I'm on golf home. It's just unacceptable. You just cannot have that. You got to take it easy. You got to be cool, calm, collected. We were on Golf Channel. We made our television debut,

just a couple TV stars, Trent and myself. We were on Golf Channel's morning drive last Thursday at 1040 a.m. Crushed it. Thank you, Frankie. We did well. I'm going to be honest. I, you know, because you go in, you're kind of nervous. You're like.

I was super nervous. didn't sleep very well the night before I was telling you about that. I usually can sleep pretty well. And then even when we have like big stuff coming up, the golf channel thing, I did not sleep well. I was up late. I was trying to, you know, I was trying to like prepare. What am I going to say if they ask this? What am I going to say if they ask that?

I want to be fucking edgy, but I don't want to be like over the edge and never get invited back again. But I want to be funny. All this shit going on. And we were on for, like, four or five minutes. We did like an eight minute segment with Matt Janella. We are going to put the entire audio into this podcast. We also have one of the biggest legends in the game of golf and the world of golf, David Faradie is on this show.

So we are going to put the audio from our golf channel appearance at the very end. It's going to go us chatting about everything going on right now. A lot of J.T. talk. Do we like J.T.? Do we hate JT? We don't know yet. We're going to get to it. It's going to be David Faradie. And then you're going to get our audio from the golf channel appearance.

So a lot of shit going on. A lot of stuff. I want to say that Trent, if you look at the video, Trent has no idea what to do with his hands. I don't know what to do with my hands. And I don't know what to do with my eyes. You don't know where to look. Which is tough on it. I mean, you're talking about the television.

television debut and I think we did very well, but there were certain parts of it that were very barstool. I think we gave very good answers. People thought we were edgy enough. They were talking about potentially going back. And then there are also the parts where I don't know what to do with my hands. I'm praying a lot while I'm talking. Why did you keep your hands in the whole time they're in the prayer form? I don't know. You're pointing at different things. You're like making good points, but his hands were in the prayer. It definitely felt good in the moment. He's like, oh, I feel like I'm making a point. Disagree because I remember in the moment thinking, why are my hands because I was going right to left with the prayer hands and in my head I was like this is not going

well with my hands everything else was going fine it was just the hands I don't know now it's got to be my thing I think I just got to do prayer hands every time it was a you know in a minority report with tom cruz yeah you know when he's like at the board and he's always moving things around with his hands yeah it was like you were doing that but with your hands in the prayer mode like grabbing things and moving them around but your hands just never separated front of the prayers it's like I caught a fly but I still had to talk. I still had to talk to people. Like the world depended on you not letting that fly get out, and you had it in

between your hands the whole time. But you also wanted to deliver good takes on Golf Channel. I think we accomplished all of those things. Hopefully we're back. It was fun. Shout out to Matt Janella and the whole gang over there bringing us over. He sort of teed us right up, asked us some great questions that we were able to talk about. So let's move on.

Let's get into this here show. We had the Honda Classic this past week. We had Justin Thomas. We had Tiger Woods. But first, the show is brought to you by our friends at Sea Geek. Look, I use Seekek. We all use Seekek here. I have the application of my phone.

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Your picture was very funny. The one of you, like, oh, my first picture of Tiger and Tiger is 4,000 yards away from you. It was crazy because we got there like two hours before he teed off. We were following the people's golfer 2.0, Keegan Bradley. Now, I told that we went up to Cromwell for the travelers. We went up there this past summer, and we did Keegan versus everybody who followed him with the T-shirts, and he gave me a couple fist bumps during the round. You remember that?

I do remember that. You were very excited. From inside the ropes, Riggs is outside the ropes, a couple of fist bumps from Keegan, so I was all pumped. So I rolled to the tournament. I met up with a couple guys that are really good buddies with him all time. You know, a lot of them try to play golf, semi-pro, whatever. I'm sorry, like some of the smaller, lesser tours, whatever. And so we're roll with them, and we're with a big crew, and we're standing by Keegan on the second T.

And, you know, as he's walking over, he kind of looks over, recognize a bunch of his boys. I think he recognized me. So he hits his T-shot, ropes one down the middle, walks by. He's like, what's up, bud, how you doing? gives me another fist pump. Okay. I'm like, hell yeah, here we go. Hits an iron in about 25 feet below the hole, four jacks for double.

I got the fuck out of there. I was like, he's going to be like, I fist pumped that rigs guy, and I made double, four jack double too. Oh, my goodness. And a bunch of the guys we were with had bet a bunch of money on him to beat the guy who was playing against that day. So it was like a real somber mood right after I had just like gotten involved in the action to a certain degree. So bad look for your point. The cooler. Totally.

So I just, I legit, like, sprinted the other side of the golf course. I'm sorry, Keegan, I get the hell out of here. So a little bit of a downer there. But then Tiger showed up. That's why we were standing like four fairways over. We look over at the first hole, just a bazillion people lining the hole. Tiger, you know, we posted up about, I think on the fourth T, we posted up there like 40 minutes before he showed up. And we're still like three people behind him on the T, but got to see him hit the T shot.

He did a cool little twirl. Tiger finished 12th place. he, I believe, led the entire field in proximity to the hole. So his ball striking, his iron play looks great. He's all pumped. He said that he's all pumped. I don't know what I just said. Pimped, I said pumped.

It came off as pumped. It came off as pumped. Maybe I saved it real late. I saved it. You did well. So he said afterwards that his expectations have changed, which is an unbelievably good sign. That means he expects to win now. He'll probably only play Bay Hill between now and the Masters, which is insane.

people are hoping that I'll add another tournament because he did just go back to back with Riviera. And his club head speed was first in the entire tournament too. His clubhead speed was in the 128 area, which is off the charts. They're saying that since they started that measurement, I believe, in like 07, that's like the highest since then. That's crazy. He was so healthy. He's so healthy. It was a third longest driver of the week, too.

So it's like this guy is putting up numbers that he was putting up when he was, I mean, this is old tiger, but he's just got to get back into a group. Yeah. Right now, health-wise and speed-wise. and strike guys. I mean, he may even be, was he, was he, I don't know,

but was he, swinging the club 128 miles an hour when he was in his prime? In, no, I don't think he was that fast. No,

that's an insane number. Like, low, low, mid, low 120s is like crazy fast. Right. And I believe, you know,

even his prime, if he was getting in like the mid-120s, I believe that's pretty fucking good. The fact that he's like, 128 is off the charts. When he started his round yesterday, there were people talking on Twitter,

and I was one of them who was like, if he can go low enough here and post a score, he could, I mean, he could put himself in a position to win this tournament. Yeah, and he was three under for a while. He came to the trap and kind of blew up. But he was three under, you know, on the front nine at one point. And it was like, if he posts another 62 or 63 or something, he's going to, he could win this tournament.

I mean, how did this happen? So he is not overly far off. I do think that we're going to eventually settle into a period where Tiger's healthy. his best is going to be where he wins tournaments and his worst is going to be he's going to miss cuts he's going to be less consistent than he used to be because he's just not you know he talked about it he's got kids and different priorities and all that

but he his a game and all that I believe is still going to be similar to vintage time tell me when he was minus two and I think he had like six holes to go and the leader was minus six and they were just teeing off that you didn't think this guy's about to rip off six birdies in a row and be minus six and the JT and all the losers of the way

I mean, we'll get to that, but they'll, they're going to start shitting their pants because Tiger's coming. And all of a sudden, I mean, he gets like owned by that last straight of holes. And then another double on 15, which is like, fuck. That course, that course eats people up. I mean, the eats people up. So, I mean, it is what it is. He kind of fell off there.

But, man, was it cool on a Sunday to watch and start doing the math? I love doing Tiger. The maths is great. Like, what's you got to get to? Yeah. I think he was three under through five and people were losing their fucking minds. Yeah. There is a reason.

as to why people, all right, like guys who are on the top of that leaderboard are expected to know what to do with the pressure when you're coming into a Sunday as a leader, right? But there has to be a different feeling when Tiger is the one that's like making the surge up the leaderboard. Dude, the roars, he made like a 20 footer on the first hole. And we, again, that same picture that I posted, we were nowhere near him, right? We're like several holes over. The roar that you heard when that thing went in, everyone turned around was like, what the fuck was that? Like it was chills down your spine. And we're talking about the Honda Classic.

It's insane. Like, who gives a fuck about the Honda Classic when we're talking about Tiger Wars and all that? It was mesmerizing. The other thing I really wanted to point out that I wrote down in my notes was that I don't know how to explain this, but it's a very interesting scene. The Porter Potty situation at a golf tournament because your crowd at a golf tournament is like upper middle class. And you see a lot of these people with like Seminole and the guy that got kicked out by JT had like a Seminole. hat on and like a lot of like really well off folks upper middle classers and then they're all shuffling into these fucking porter bodies that are just dog shit i'm talking like shit literally

flowing out of the porter body and i'm like looking at this guy next to me i'm like he's got like a sweater tied over his neck he's like clearly a millionaire and i'm like that guy's going into this thing that i'm going into right potty's are the great equalizer it was such an equalizer it was such an everybody's got a shit everybody's got to piss and if it's outside of a tournament everybody's got to go in there i went in and i went in and i was I was like, man, I think this is disgusting, and I'm like barstool rigs. Like, imagine some of these guys with, like, mansions down here at Jupiter going into these things right now. If I was that rich, I would just wear a diaper.

I would just wear a diaper. You think so? Yep, no judgment. What do you mean a diet? I would rather wear a shit in your pants and walk around. If I was a millionaire, I would rather wear a diaper than going to porta potty. You can't shit your pants, Trent. Why?

Yes, I can. Then you're going to go sit in a bleachers and just sit in your own shit. You can be a man. And you can be a grown-ass man and shit your pants. I mean, my, my, my, my, my, my girlfriend's dad just got back from a vacation with her, at her cousin's house in Colorado. And, and their nine-year-old cousin shit his pants. And went to, and went to go, like, he just dropped his pants.

And the shit just fell on the floor. And the mom, my, uh, had his cousin. She just stepped in the shit in her daughter, in her son's shit. That's what you want? This is what you're saying is a solution. Imagine having real shit. I'm not baby shit. This is real shit.

I'm not saying I would do it. Well, I am saying that. You're not your bag pedaling. No, I'm not. I'm saying there were probably people out there wearing diapers so they didn't have to go in the port of body. There were no way. I guarantee you there's not one person who's wearing diaper. If they were, then that person's on their deathbed and they just wanted to go see the Honda class before they were dead.

Then what are you going to do? You're going to get in the car afterwards with a diaper? Like a smelly diaper full of poop and you just stop at the nearest gas station? You take it off and you head back home. How do you get to the gas station? Right. You do have to drive with the poop in your... Teleport to the gas station.

You act like poop is like just going to just sit there nice. It's going to be a mess. Just a mess. You're going to be your ass crack. You're saying this is better than just going into a porter body. I think there are rich people who are like, they're thinking what you're thinking. They're like, I'm not going to have to retract. They're shit on your nuts.

I'm not retraction all over yourself. I refuse to retract it. I'm saying, there are rich people who would rather shit with the... No. No rich man's having shit on his nuts. That's the end of the conversation. What you're saying right now. There's just no way.

It's so far off base. What a ridiculous statement. Disagree. What? I bet there were a lot of diapers at the Honda Classic. So anyways, the Porter Pottie situation baffled me. I just thought that was a little bit of a social sort of observation by me. Let's get in Justin Thomas.

I just wear a diaper. I never thought I had to hear two shooting your pants like references in one week. What a week for me so far, Monday. Yeah, it's Monday. It's early. Justin Thomas is all over the place right now, especially here at barshaltsports. He, so he got this fan kicked out at the Honda Classic on the 16th hole. There's audio of, you know, the guy rooting for JT's ball to go in the bunker.

We're going to play that audio? Is that we're going to do? Excellent. We're going to play the audio. Justin Thomas now on the team. There we go. Absolutely. Perfect.

So JT has this guy kicked out. The cameras and the audio on TV clearly picked it up. So the story was public immediately. Everybody kind of knew what happened. He really didn't back down from it afterwards in his interview. He was like, yeah, I mean, that guy, you know, he's kind of heckling myself and Luke List even beforehand. And then, you know, I had had enough. I thought that was inappropriate.

So I had him kicked out. People lost their minds. People were like, this guy's soft as shit. Now here we are talking about shooting. This guy's soft as... Sharman. Sharman. Soft as Charmin.

So people were very upset because JT's this beloved guy. He's this American stud. He's 24-year-old that's won eight times on tour. He just won a major championship. He just won the FedEx Cup. He's player of the year. Blah, blah, blah. Seems like kind of a bro.

He's with the spring break crew. He's boys with Tiger. He's playing golf with Tiger all the time. A lot to like about J.T. He pulls this move. People are fucking flipping. Immediately. They pulled a 180.

So I did the thing where I found the tweet with the most, like, I forget who tweeted out, but that had the most comments, the most retweets about how he kicked the guy out for his ball to go in the bunker, and everybody flipped on JT. Every single person. You would think, for all the reasons that you just listed, that people would be on JT's side, absolutely not true. People do not like when you kick fans out for doing something that fans normally do.

So let me say this before Frankie goes, because Frankie has been sort of, I guess, leading the charge in anti-JT, stuff for a while. Frankie hates the way he tweets, especially one tweet in particular. So I'm going to turn it over to Frankie now. I just wanted to preface it with, you've been kind of leading this charge,

are you feeling vindicated, Frankie? How you feel right now? Yeah, I mean, you could see this guy doing this from a mile away. He is this type of person. And how do I know that from his tweets? He is a douchebag on Twitter. And he's not mean to anyone.

He's not mean to me. He's not mean to anyone, really. It's the way he writes. He acts like he is above people the way he writes on Twitter. and it's just something that just irks me. And for those of you don't know, it's when he tweets, Happy Game Day, comma, you guys.

The comma, you guys, is so fucking stuck up. It makes me want to throw myself out of a window every time I read it. So what I say to him is, get your lips off JT's ball, comma, you guys. I like it. Get that. No, I mean, this guy's just a dick, man. It's like, honestly, and the funniest part about that clip is the guy who said, It's almost like he had so much money on JT losing

that the way he said, get in the bunker. If you really listen to it, it actually goes from high to low. He's watching this ball. Like a desperate home. Just getting that bunker. Dude, I can root for whatever the fuck I want if I'm at a golf event, if I'm at any sporting event.

I've been saying, imagine other sports. We always compare golf to other sports and how it's kind of soft and everyone has to be so polite. We have to root on everyone. Everyone has to be happy and go lucky. Can you imagine if this happened in any other sport where a guy's allowed to just point out at people and just say, stop being mean to me. Stop being, not even being mean to me.

Stop rooting against me to do well. Well, the thing that I've hated that I've seen today in defensive JT is like, well, it is golf. So we have to treat it this way and that. We can't take it so far where you can't simply root against someone. I don't, I'm with them. I don't want people yelling in people's back swings. I don't want them, I don't know, saying like really, really rude shit. But to cheer for someone's ball to go in the bunker.

after they hit the ball, that is just, that's called being a fan. Like, the Rider Cup, Europe's up for a punt. You're going to tell me we're not allowed to say like, miss, miss, miss it wide. And then when they miss it, we cheer. It's amazing. That's what makes it fucking fun. Yeah, it makes it very interactive. And, you know, when we're at the waste management and, you know, somebody misses the green.

They get booed. Right. And they're like, that's not what you wanted to see. Because that's, I mean, that's sports. That's rowdiness. You're invested. You want a certain result. And when you don't get it, you're going to express yourself.

That's what you earn as a fan when you pay for a team. ticket and you get put it now. Assholes should never be assholes. You should never be an asshole, you know, in a malicious way or, you know, at the wrong time or try to interrupt play, et cetera, et cetera. When that guy did that to Tiger on the put at Torrey Pines, he got eviscerated. Then online, you know, the clip went out and then that guy was really mean to him in person. Yep.

And we actually ended up feeling bad for the guy. And he was like, I just timed my getting the hole wrong. Like, that's on me. My bad. This one, you know, this one seems on the surface unbelievably benign. Like he just was like getting the bunker. That's fine. Like, so JT is trying to tell us that had that guy been like, get in the fairway, that's totally fine.

But because he's rooting against him and like getting the bunker that he's kicked out, that's off the charts. It's crazy. Can't do that. Also, just this whole JT. This has been building up with him bitching about the crowds, the rowdiness of the crowds. And he always goes back to this, you know, well, we're playing for millions of dollars out here. So that's why I'm upset about the crowd about this. The reason you're playing for millions of dollars are because of the crowds.

It's amazing. Can't see that. Fucking 20 or 30 years ago when they were playing for significantly less money, they didn't have much of these issues at all because there weren't massive crowds. You could control the shit out of it. You could say these are golf people and only golf people go to golf events and golf people know that you can't do non-golf things and golf events. That's not the case anymore.

You're trying to transcend golf. You're trying to bring people in anyone in the fucking L.A. area at Riviera's coming out to watch because Tigers in the field, because Rory's in the field, because J.T.'s in the field. Those guys are some of them are just going to be like once a month. I go out on Saturday and play with my. boys, like off of my boys. And they're not going to give a fuck. They're going to root against certain guys, and that's completely fine.

You should never be an asshole. We're not condoning being an asshole. But this guy just get in the bunker. Like you said, it was like a deep, desperate, like genuine, like, please get in the bunker. He probably bet his buddy. I bet you J.T. Totally. Makes a bogey here, or I'm just going to bet against him for this whole.

But if we're kicking people out for that, that's insane. It's insane. Why else go to an event then? If I'm a fan and I want to go to an event and have fun, why am I not allowed to choose between what I'm going to root for and what I'm not going to root for. That's insane. To kick the guy out completely.

The way he said it too. Who said that? Oh, yeah. You? All right. Enjoy your day, buddy. You're gone. Yeah.

He goes, you're out of here, buddy. Yeah. That's what it was. It's insane. Yeah, the other thing that just pisses me off is the ejection is so ruthless. And it's so ruthless because think about what this fucking guy goes through to get to the tournament, right?

He pays all this money, 50 or 100 bucks or whatever. Hopefully use a C geek. Shout out to C geek. Promocode 4, F-O-R-E. Nice. He uses, you know, he hopefully uses a ticket. Tickets are not cheap. He goes, he battles fucking traffic.

You got to find parking or you got to pay for an Uber. You got to get in. You got to fight the crowds. You finally get over to the bear trap. You get a good seat. You've been there all damn day. Finally Justin Thomas comes through and you make, you know, you make your comment, you're betting your buddy a couple bucks all the time.

Then they end up going to a playoff well afterwards, and you don't get to see any of that because Justin Thomas kicked you out of the event. That is like, dude, those are your fans. Those are the people that, like, that's your livelihood. It's the same thing with rap when he shit on Stewies. It's like, you can't shit on your fans. The fans are you. That's why you're a millionaire.

That's why you're famous and shit. Like, it's going to sometimes be a little bit annoying, but that's just what you deal with, dude. That's why you're a bazillionaire. And then right before we came on to record the podcast, he fired off four tweets. I'm not going to read it because it's long. But it's basically him being like, oh, I did this.

I did this. I apologize. I shouldn't have thrown the guy out and this and that. And you and I were talking before, Rick, is it like, does he actually mean that? Or is he saying it because he's getting the blowback that we are now talking about where So, bro, there's someone in his ear being like, listen, these are your fans. You can't fuck with them like this because otherwise they're going to turn on you.

And another thing was, this just sets a bad precedent for Justin Thomas. This isn't going to make it any better. This isn't going to make fans back off. It's going to make it 100 times worse, a million times worse, especially because now they know they can get under his skin. He made this a billion times worse because some guy told him his ball to get in the bunker. It's going to get way worse. And again, like, you know, we're not condoning people being assholes of tournaments. What we're saying is, dude, understand how the world works and how the world works.

is that in order for the sport to get significantly more attention, there's going to be massive crowds. And when you get massive crowds, you're going to have people fucking yelling and doing stupid shit. That's just numbers. That's what happens. There's only so much room in a golf tournament. There's going to be areas where people are all piled up.

There's going to be bleachers that are more rowdy than others. And you just literally have to accept that. And if you don't, like you just said, Trent, it's going to get worse and worse for you because people are not going to like the fact that he's coming off as such like a spoiled brat and not like a common normal. like Kevin Kisner would never fucking do this. You know what I mean? He would like fist fight the guy first.

Right. Like those guys that we've gotten to know that are just like these awesome like common man type dudes would never do this. Like are you kidding me? And then all of it puts us into a tough spot trying to figure out how we feel about JT, which I talked about on the radio a lot because look, JT is like our young American stud. He's 204. He's winning all these tournaments. He's going to be on rider cups for the next two decades. He's boys with the spring break guys who we love.

We love Spieth. We love Ricky. We love those guys. We love Smiley, even though I picked him to finish DFL this past weekend. He did. He shot like 35 over. But we love those guys. We love that JT's one of those guys. So it makes it tough.

Like, do we want to go? Like, do we hate J.T now? I don't know. I don't like want to hate J.T. But it's like, dude, you cannot kick somebody out because he said getting the bunker. But he is so you're saying that. All right, let me go back to this. What about when he said, fuck yeah, baby, when he won the tournament, right?

I like that. All right. So people love that, right? But did you see his comments after when he says, I really hope I don't get fined for that? It wasn't out of anger. It was just out of just, like, I didn't think the TVs were going to be there. I didn't think TVs would pick that up.

I mean, he literally said, I didn't know that I was obviously going to be on TV or I wouldn't have said it. Please do not find me very much PGA tour. Obviously, it wasn't out of frustration or anything. I didn't know that was on TV, so I apologize that everyone heard it. You didn't know what your winning putt was going to be on TV? What about the guy that he literally just kicked out two seconds ago? The guy probably didn't know that that,

getting the bunker was going to go into JT's ear. Like, it's the same exact thing that just happened you 20 minutes before. He's becoming tough to like. He's so hard to like. I'm not going to disagree with you. I just, I want to like him. Every part of everything that he is is me wanting to love JT. I want him to be our guy, but he's got to be less of a little bitch in order to be our guy.

He cannot be this soft. He cannot be. That, like, sounds so disingenuous to me. Him being like, oh, I would have never said, fuck yeah, when that put went in. Like, you're sitting there calculating what you're going to say when you make a And give that guy you just kicked out the same liberty for him to be like, I didn't know that J.T. was going to fucking listen to me. I'm 15 people in the gallery. I'm out here having a drink.

I didn't know J.T.'s going to turn around. I've been saying this on the radio. If I knew athletes were listening to me, I would have been arrested already. Yeah. I tried to get Henrik Lundquist taken out of this country. I keep calling the freaking immigration control on him. Every time he goes to an event, every time he plays an international event, I call the immigrant. integration control and I ask if he can not be allowed back.

And it never works. No, you're a crazy person. But I'm just saying. Imagine all these athletes started just turning around when you said something. I know it happens in basketball because you're on the court and sometimes they get in fights. Like, I mean, run out of tests is like jumping into the crowds. But that's when people say things like they're shit. But even when those guys, occasionally those guys will point to someone in the crowd and have them kicked out and they get roasted online.

Right. People are like, dude, don't like, don't get the fans in trouble. Don't ruin the fans day. Like the fan is paying that admission. That money's going into your pocket. You're making millions and millions of dollars. Yes, people are going to be assholes. And maybe we should chirp there.

Maybe we should say, hey, don't be assholes. But you can't kick people out. Or otherwise, you're going to get the image of being basically anti-fan and being like, I don't give a fuck about the fans. That's a tough place to be as a sport, as an athlete. As a 24-year-old. Well, that's what Riggs has been saying, where it's like everything about this guy is awesome. We should love him for everything.

But then he starts doing these things where, and that's what I think the people who are defending him today, they keep trying to graham him. into this box and he's cool he's awesome he's young he's american but they also see this ugly thing over here and this is three weeks in a row now that he's what he was that uh what he yeah so waste management you know i brought this up a couple times waste management i don't think you necessarily said anything but he just made two doubles on 16 which is like a wedge so clearly he's like flustered about the fan situation there at rivieri made the comments about the crowds are too row and then you know this week he had what he had so it's kind of three weeks in a row

I think it's a culture thing. He didn't grow up like a normal 18-year-old golf thing. I mean, this guy's got like a family of PGA pros. PGA pros. He's been around the country club's entire life. The kid's been playing on professional golf courses. So he's not that cool guy that everyone wants him to be. He just isn't.

He's just has that douchebag. He just has a douche bag. Do you think it's one of these where it's like Bubba, where Bubba on the surface was awesome. He was super likable. He killed the ball. He shapes it all over. the place. He's a big, tall, lefty, makes funny comments. His name's Bubba. And then he won

the Masters and everybody loved it for like a week. They were like the way he wanted to get that huge hook out of the trees on 10 to beat Louis-Eus days and that was so cool. And then the more you got to know about him, you're like, this guy sucks. Right. I think that's exactly what's happening where like he had such a good year. Now he's on TV all the time. Yes. And people were like, actually this guy kind of stinks. That is 100%. He talked down to that guy in the gallery and that's not supposed to happen from a 24-year-old golfer that's winning seven tournaments in his last 30. This kid should be on top of the world. He should be high-fiving people walking down the gallery. They should be like, fucking J.T. is awesome. What do you do? He should be fucking happy

Gilmore against the older, fricking, like, crusty old men golfers. That's what you should be doing. That should be the new age of golf. Like, I should be so team JT. It's not even funny. And well, maybe, I agree. I agree. I'm trying to emulate J.T. That honestly might be a part of it, though. You're saying everyone should be rooting for him. And that's maybe what he thinks in his mind. So when some guy's like, hey, get that ball in the bunker, he's like, what the fuck is this and kicks him out? Maybe because he's never had to deal with any sort of adversity in his entire life. Because, I mean, his father is a professional golfer, so I'm sure he's been playing great golfers.

See, I don't know if he was a professional golfer, but he was a, I think he was like a PGA pro, like teaching pro or something like that. I'm not 100% sure. But he's come right into the pro tour and the kids just lit it up. So, I mean, he's never once, and from what I've seen of him has seen any sort of adversity playing up. But do you think that gives him a little bit more leeway where it's like, dude, he's got to learn for a couple years how to like, Yeah, I could be making his point for him by saying all that, like saying you got to give him some time to learn, but it doesn't mean that he's not a dick right now. Yeah, and it's crazy because I'm thinking about comparisons. I'm thinking about Ricky Fowler.

Ricky Fowler is like he's always signing autographs for two hours after every round. When he does win, you know, he buys champagne for the whole media room and everyone's like nobody can say enough good words about Ricky Fowler. And it's like, the more we're getting to No JT, it's like, well, he said these comments. He got this fan kicked out. It's kind of like, who the fuck is this guy? He can't go back on these many comments now. It's been three weeks in a row. You said you don't know if he said anything during the...

Yeah, I just can't remember, but I know he didn't. I don't think he did, but he didn't handle the 16th hole well. Right. And people were booing him. Like, he like four putted one day where we were watching, three putted from a close range. And it was right in front of us on 16. And people were like booing this shit out of them and clearly, like, does not like that.

Right. So that compared with the Riviera comments and then this back-to-back weeks. I mean, come on, dude. We know now that you do not like the adversity. You do not like the fans. He just feels like he's above it, and it really sucks that a guy that this good can be this much of a dick. It's really timely that we were just on morning drive last week talking about like it's okay to root against players. And that's how you're going to grow the game because in every other sport you can do this. And then one of the main faces of golf calls somebody out rooting against him.

You know, you know, now the next tournament he's in, it's going to be a bloodbath. Bloodbath. I think so, too. There's going to be comments in his back swing. I mean, you just know what's going to happen. I would never root for that because like you guys said before, you don't want to be a dick on the golf course. Right. But you do want to be lively.

You want to be, you want it to be an event. You want to be having fun. The way you watch sports, when I sit down and I'm going to post up for the afternoon, Sunday afternoon, the leaders teeing off at 2 o'clock, I sit down. I look at the top six guys at Leebo. And I'm thinking like, all right, who are my horses and who am I rooting against? Yeah. Like that, I need that. Like, when this guy, Yank hooks one into the rough and makes double, who am I, who am I happy about?

And that's, like, and that's what I need. And that's just that's sports. It's how you consume sports and events and competition. when I'm watching the Olympics, right? I'm like, fuck Russia. I want those guys to lose more than anything in the world. And then, you know, you got Norway out there. I'm like, I don't mind Norway.

That's fine. Like, but you need, like, you need horses in the race and you need people to root against. Right. It's not naturally fine. The fact that golf is always seemingly up until this point been like, root for everybody. Hope everybody does well, blah, blah, blah. Seems crazy and backward. And that's Dave's point.

He's he can't stand it. I can't stand it. I can't stand it. And I couldn't agree more. It's like, no, dude, you should have guys you root against. It doesn't necessarily always have to be malicious. Like there's some guys we genuinely don't like on this podcast, but there's also other guys that are at the top of the leaderboard sometimes

where I'm like, this guy's boring as fuck, seems like a nice guy or whatever, but I hope he loses more than anything. Because I went this other cool guy that I know or that I like or that I have a reason to root for to win, and that's fine. This guy, like you said, he was probably betting a dollar a T-shot against his buddy, and he was like, get in the poker. Like, that's just funny. That's how you do it.

Plus, rooting for a loser or someone to lose is easier than rooting for someone to win. You lose more than you win. That's just a fact. Totally. So, like, if I'm going to root for the field, to lose, 99% of them are going to lose. Right. So it's just easier to root for someone to lose.

That's what, I mean, that's just fun. It just makes, like you said. Maybe JT should just say, fuck it and become the villain. I don't like to be apologized. I wish, if anything, just double down on everything. Just double down. That's what I wish Bubba had been done doing all these years. The next tournament, he should have just been like, fuck that guy.

That guy made so much noise in my back swing. Totally. Don't walk on the fence. Walk up to the first tee and like do this to the crowd. Like, put your hands up to the crowd. Like, let me hear it. Like, let's go. I know you guys are going to fucking give me shit.

I'm going to crush it. Dave made a great point, whereas, right, so the details of the story matter, right? Like, if this guy, if this fan that could kick out was actually heckling, you know, List and J.T. as they walked up and before they hit their shots, and then he made another comment, like, that's much more grounds for getting booted. But then why would J.T. have turned around and been like, who said that? Yeah. If he knew, right?

Like, if the guy was heckled on the whole time, he wouldn't have turned around and been, like, who said that? He wouldn't turn around. I'd be like, hey, dude, you're fucking out. And that clip, he's clueless. He's just mad. That makes it tough to believe JT's, full story and then this whole apology thing

I mean it looks like he's basically written here like I apologize for getting to a point where people don't like me I really want people to like me is kind of what he says where it's like dude no like you should really this should either be like I need a double down I need like a see a buddy is like that's like Dave said he should put that in his

fucking Twitter bio you should put that out of shirt and wear it at every press conference like if you're gonna if that's who you truly are if you are truly a person who gets mad that someone is yelling your ball to get in the bunker then be that and be that all the time don't say it and then do four tweets on twitter being like oh people don't like me so i'm going to apologize and walk the fence on this whole thing but he just did this at riviera he just this this week that's who he is he cannot put out a string of four tweets saying oh now that everyone's getting on my case i don't mean it that way i'm out of the dick

and whatever you don't you do mean it that way even if he is that's who he is and he owns that and we would still be shitting on him for being like oh where he's not what we thought he was going to be but at least he's being genuine about the entire thing and he just hasn't been If he would have come out today and been like, you know, I know it's probably a tough look, but honestly, that guy's piss me off. I probably get a little too rattled by the fans in the play. Fuck that guy. I just, I had to kick him out, and I would do the same thing again.

I could accept that. That would be the first time a professional, like, or at least a golfer. I don't know if other athletes have ever done that. I'm sure they have. But that would be the first time a golfer stepped up and said, I'm about to change the way the game is if, like, if you say something, I'm going to go right back at you. And everything has to be so PC.

Right. If you're going to say something to me in the crowd, I'm going to say something to you in a press conference afterwards like that guy was an asshole i'm glad he got kicked and it totally seemed like belittling in the in the fact that he said like uh you're out of here buddy right's like very much like a hey dude i'm like the star of the show here you're out which again is not you either got to be full heel or you got to be like i'm i'm a you know i'm the man i'm the really nice guy i can take it all whatever can't get caught in the middle and do this weird like i want everybody to like me but i also kind of a dickhead to the fans like come i try and

picture that guy like i kicked out too hey get in the bunker and then he just gets point that out like what me wait like just looking around like are you fucking kidding me like are you serious i'm getting kicked out right now and this security comes and grabs your elbows like what are I doing right now like guys help me they just get just whiffed away into the distance my god

tough day for jt on twitter and he just won that's the crazy thing is like he he's going through all that you're thinking like man he's he's clearly rattled about the crowd about the bear trap and all that he's going to play a couple toughest holes and the hardest couple hole stretch on tour and then he wins the tournament

So it's like it's, I rooted against him so hard. Me too. Yep. But it's like, and then people are kind of pointing out, like, is he going to just melt down during the rider cup whenever he's chirping him? I hope so. Well, no, because he just won when he was getting chirped. So it's like, maybe it gets better when he gets chirped. I don't know if you guys noticed this.

It was a very minor detail. So after he had kicked the guy at, everyone hated him, he does these things. Like, he's so cocky. He hit his, he hit his, his T shot, and it was a great shot. And then, why am I blanking on that? Luke Liss. Luke Liss hit one way right. And JT's already off the T-box walking forward

And he just puts his hand out right It's like J-T, we know where the fucking ball is, bro. You never would have done that if you didn't hit a perfect shot right down the fairway. Do you guys agree with that? Yeah, he did it right in his face. And then, and then I think to re, just to make up for that, when Liz hit a great shot from the gallery, he pointed it back with like a thumbs up.

If you weren't playing this whole perfectly, you really think you'd be interacting with your opponent in the playoff? No, you're just playing this whole great and you're being a fucking cock about it. Well, that's a perfect microcosmo of what we're talking about. He's caught in the middle. He walks past, like, oh, the ball's going right. And then when he hits a good shot, he gives him back.

I know what that arm was. I've done that arm. I know what that was. That's like, oh, fuck, this guy's all the way to the right. That's how like, oh, it's going to appear like I'm trying to help the guy find it, but really like, oh, you fucking smoked it. Right. That's like, hey, everyone, watch how bad this shot is. You see where I'm pointing?

That's where his ball is. J.T. How far are we falling with him? Again, I still, it's just, I want, I want to love him so much, so it's tough. It's just tough. Why are you making it so tough, J.T. You mentioned it earlier, but you could cut out JT's name and all that, and you could put it in Bubba, because it's the same thing. I know.

It's, it's hard. It's just a hard moment. It's been a hard couple weeks for J.T. Fandom, just in general. It's really emotional. J.T. also, he had, he had a pretty funny comment in his postpresser where he talked about texting with Tiger. And he said that, you know, for the last. last year or so that Tiger's always texted him on Saturday nights when he's in the

leader in contention in a tournament some advice on winning and all that and then he said this past weekend crickets from Tiger that makes me happy that gives me a tiger boner yeah because he's just like no I'm not fucking around anymore really builds that plays right into this whole um storyline that we had built up in our own brains that tiger is kind of peppering these guys up and then he's just going to fucking squash yeah I took that maybe I'm too deep into it but uh that that played that sounded to me like a mind game where he's like JT's waiting on that text this weekend, never gets it, and Tiger's like, I'm back. That's like a couple years ago when Rory was like, yeah, like my fiance gets upset because Tiger texts me at 4 a.m.

I'm like, I'm in the gym. What are you doing? I mean, these guys have to read into those texts like he wouldn't believe, right? Like, JT's probably examining those, making sure that he's not giving him the wrong information so that one day Tiger can, when they're in a head-to-head, they can use that against him. Like, Tiger's doing this all for a plan. Yeah. That's what I like to think. I have to think that.

Because there was that whole storyline when he was hurt where he's like, I just want to be one of the guys. I want to be friends with these guys. I think he was doing that just to butter them up so we could yank the rug out for one of when it comes back. He has no emotions. None. And if you think that you're going to just buddy up to Tiger Woods when he's coming for your throat, I mean, you got nothing coming for you.

He started to slip in a couple comments here and there, too, and his pressures when they ask him about it. And he's like, I'm pretty excited for these guys to learn what it was like to play against me for 15 years. It's like, okay, so he's got to probably like, you know, when JT. and Roy are crying a little bit about the guy. He's got to be like, this is what I'm talking about. Welcome to my world, bitches. Yeah. Yeah, we've got people jumping over the fucking roots, like throwing beers at each other on playing. He's probably pulling strings.

Like, get these guys group with me so we can show him what it's like. He's like those crazy hecklers right there that are like, J.T. can't even walk around the course without like melt down and crying. Get those guys in our group every round. That's the thing. You'll never hear Tiger talk about it. But if I guarantee his take on this JT bunker situation is like that guy is being a little bitch. Maybe Tiger might have paid this guy.

He might be his red lobster guy from Happy Gilmore. You're going to need a blank. get in suntan motion because you're never going to get off that beach just the way you never got into the NHL jackass. Oh, ho ho! The greed's that way. Jackass. Right.

Meet something over on the bridge afterwards. Oh, you want to shoot you want to go? Tiger made this. Tiger created this monster of these people liking golf. As crazy as that's that. Right. Non-golf people loving golf. Right.

Tiger created the person coming and just wanted to like. like drink beers and just watch golf and chert people and like the average sports fan. So Tiger's probably looking at this guy like, dude, I've dealt with this shit. Dude, he's really created this shit. He's spinning in the face of what Tiger built by being like get these people out of here. I'm fucking standing there yesterday with this crew of like seven or eight guys, right? Awesome guys. And like five or six of them are like teaching pros at these sick courses, like Bears Club and all these places.

And Tiger makes that put that I was talking about, that 20 foot around the first hole in the crowd. These guys were in like tears going, that guy's the reason I play golf. That's what they were saying. They were like in tears. This is like 25 year old adult males being like, I exist because of that man. That guy's a living fucking legend. Like that's what Tigers think. When these guys are bitching, they're like, you're literally, you have entered my world.

I created this world. Right. And you have millions and millions of dollars because of what I've done. Now just let someone fucking scream that your bullshit go in the bunker. I can't wait for this fucking guy to start winning majors. Yeah. Oh. He's going to beat these little country club bitches down.

It's going to be awesome. Tiger Woods versus J.T. on a Sunday would be, I mean, I would love nothing more. JT. going on the T. Tiger's going like this trying to pump the crowd out. Imagine just J.T. just on like 18 or a playoff. J.T. rips one, and Tiger just goes, getting the bunker. As he's walking up the fairway, I think I'd come my pants on.

I'm going to start taking my clothes off right now. I swear to God, I will. And he just goes right by like the boom mic. He knows where it is. Just getting the bunker. I would just jizz all over my TV if that happened. JT's like, come on! Come on, you guys.

Can we throw a tiger out of my parents? Can we throw Tiger out? Good luck throwing Tiger out of Augusta, buddy. That may be the best impressions done at Barcel ever. I mean, that's literally JT. I mean, they would bury J.T. in the basement of the Augusta Clubhouse. Nobody touches Toddger, your pal. All right.

Next stop, we got to change pace a little bit. We got David Faradie on the podcast. We did ask him a little bit about this JT situation, and he gives some good takes. He does. we are now joined by our friend David Faradie for the second time here on the four-play golf podcast. First of all, Mr. Farity, realized we might have scared you off last time because you didn't come back into the office this time. No, I'm, you tell you work harder to frighten me. You mentioned just a little bit beforehand that, you know, you're a little, I would imagine jet lagged from South Korea.

how are we feeling after covering the Olympics for the second time? Yeah, I'm a little bewildered with, you know, I'm sort of walking around. I don't know whether I'm blowing up or stuff. Oh, and here's a question for you. If you can be bewildered, can you be wildered? Does that make you feel better if you're a wildered? I'd be very curious to know what kind of state it would be like to just be wildered. Yes.

Yeah. Well, no, it's been, it was a really interesting. experience being there in South Korea and one you know I'd love to do again yeah I know you're very patriotic American what did you think of the Olympic team there were some pretty big moments out there there really were and you know for me it was the women's Olympics you know some of the greatest moments the hockey team were just incredible just a will to win and the toughness that those women had just amazing Chloe Kim and The long distance, the cross-country skiing, Jesse Diggins and her partner in that, I don't recall her name, unfortunately.

Jesse Diggins getting across the line first the way that she did. It's just amazing. And, you know, I get into the figure skating as well. I'm a huge Johnny Weir fan. I love listening to Johnny. and he's a pal of mine. He's really an amazing character. And the thing that never really comes up is the courage of the men,

or sorry, the courage of the women and the strength of the men in that sport. They're some of the greatest athletes on the planet. And those women that allow themselves to be flung into the air and flipped four times and land on one skate, you know, that's really an amazing thing to see close up. Yeah, I agree. You know, I've always been a big, big time Winter Olympics fan. Johnny Weir has been a big favorite here at Barstool for a long time.

He sort of steals the show every time. His insight, his outfits, everything about him. He's just, he's awesome. If you don't like him, there's a problem with you. And I agree with you. The women, the Olympics, especially for the Americans, that even the announcing call on the long distance cross-country there was maybe the most exciting moment of the entire Olympics for me. Yeah, the guy just lost his pieces.

It was brilliant. It was absolutely brilliant. It was great. It was great to see you over there. Let's talk about the show, Farity. You know, big season coming up for 2018. You've got the premiere on March 5th at 9 p.m. Eastern on Golf Channel.

A little bit different this year. Let's why don't you tell us a little bit about the multi-guest approach? Yeah, we're having two or three guests at a time this year. You know, we decided the show wasn't broken, so I would have to fix it. We've got a sofa, which is one of my favorite places to be. I'm actually lying on one at the moment. All right, kicked up, comfortable like it. Nice.

In Orlando, you know, my psychiatrist sofa is another place. You know, the sofa at Neiman Marcus where my wife shops, you know, and I fall asleep. We decided that we're going to get a sofa and put more people on it. So we've got Jack Nicholas and Ricky Fowler and Bob Bryan, the tennis doubles legend. The first show, March the 5th, 9 o'clock Eastern. And we'll have just a wide-ranging lineup of guests in 2018. You know, we'll have a shortly, we'll have a soon-to-be NBA Hall of Famer, a three-time World Series champion ace pitcher in the prime of his career,

a former world number one golfer, a Ryder Cup hero, and a bunch of current PGA tour winners coming up. It's, you know, your show is one of the coolest in golf in that it's, you know, it's centered around humor around sort of, you know, boiling guys down to some, a side of them that people don't often get to see. what went into or what makes Ricky Fowler and Jack Nicholas sort of go together, do you think? Well, you know, they know each other pretty well because a lot of these kids that live in the West Palm Beach area near where Jack is, and the show was from Jack's house, they'll call them and they're members of the Bears Club.

You know, if they're going to go play at Muirfield or, you know, at Royal St. George's or, you know, somewhere at the Open Championship, where Jack has played well over the years, they'll ask him, you know, about the golf course. They ask him advice all of the time. And Jack loves to, he loves to play with them. You know, he loves to spend time

with these youngsters that are playing so well out on the PGA tour. Yeah, it's great. I'm very, very excited to check out that episode, check out the whole season of Farity once again. Speaking of the show and, you know, guests that you've had on, Justin Thomas, you had him on,

right after the PGA last year, which he won. He just won last night in a playoff over at the Honda Classic. What's your quick reaction on JT, his game, you know, what makes him so good and probably the best player in the world right now? Yeah, he is probably the best player in the world right now. And, you know, that's saying something because there are, you know, Dustin Johnson and kids out there that, you know, they play so well each time that they play.

you hardly ever see a slump these days. And you never see anybody choke, which pisses me off. There used to be people that would get the lead and just gag and, you know, and, you know, soil themselves on the way in and that kind of thing. It never happens anymore. All these kids have got some serious cahones. Yeah, I couldn't agree more with you. We love the collapse is maybe my favorite thing in all of golf,

and these guys are just, it's almost like they're too good now. It's ruining the game for me. Yeah, well, you know, it's still pretty cool to watch. And the thing with golf is there's always the possibility, you know. You never know. It hasn't happened recently, but I mean, it will happen again. Yeah, it's, it is, you know, it takes the Cajones, like you said, and JT even yesterday going for it, the green there in the playoff.

He didn't have a flawless lie. just roped one into the back middle of the green there, which, you know, that could easily end up in the water. So that was awesome. Let's talk a little bit about the comments that JT has made, you know, about some fans and things like that. There's a million reasons to like JT, and we know that you were, I believe you interviewed him at his place right after he won the PGA.

So, you know, you know him pretty well. You've seen him in his natural habitat. that if people like us may see, you know, J.T. kicking a fan out for making some comments about his golf ball as a negative. We'd love to hear from you, you know, what do you see in J.T. that reaffirms that he's nothing but positive. Well, you know, it's just such a high-quality individual. And they all are, you know, whenever I interview somebody on my show, I never have to check a rap sheet first, nothing like that you know they're they're they're cool um and uh i didn't see uh the incident that uh you're talking about you know i just haven't come back from korea um i heard a little bit

about it he had somebody ejected that was like you know tackling or something from the crowd yeah it sounded like the guy had um you know j t talked about it afterwards he said that the guy beforehand had made some comments about i you know i hope you hit it in the water and then after J.T. hit his ball and it's, it's, you know, sailing towards the fairway, the guy yelled, you know, get in the bunker and J.T. had him ejected for that. Right. Well, you know, I mean, I hope you hit it in the water and all, right. You know, I hope you leave the premises. Oh, look, you did. It sort of leads to a larger conversation about we had actually made our first appearance

on the golf channel about a week ago, and we were talking. Oh, I heard you were on morning drive. Yeah, we're big TV stars now, David. You're asked a giant plummet in the wrong direction. But one of the things we were asked about was, is it okay to root against certain players in golf? How it's sort of a, it's a thing in other sports, obviously you root against other teams or other players.

Is it okay to root against somebody in golf? And we were, I mean, we were curious of what your thoughts on that would be. Yeah, I mean, I, I mean, it's absolutely okay to root against against them. It's just not okay to do it in public, you know, or do it, you know, outlive. You see, you know, people,

you know, with noisemakers, you know, behind somebody on the free throw line, you know, trying to, that's part of that game. It's not part of our game. It never has been, you know, and it shouldn't be. Our game is way too hard. It's much too hard. And, you know, if you, if you believe the ruling bodies, you know, the game's getting too easy, you know, but you ask the average player out there, you know, how easy the game is, you know, the last thing you need is people, you know, trying to, you know, screw with. with your mind or whatever it's just no it's not golf so a lot of these comments stem from you know raucous crowds rowdy crowds which are you know becoming more and more prevalent now that tiger

woods is back you know he's he's no i got no problem with that absolutely i think it's great for golf uh the phoenix kind of experience you know i mean we don't need that every week but you know we can do with a little more of it. You know, fans getting rowdy and that sort of thing, as long as they're not, you know, rooting against players or making stupid comments. Yeah, I agree. And I guess that'll lead us a little bit into Tiger Woods.

Speaking of crowds, you know, getting rowdy, et cetera, et cetera. Tigers back, you know, he finished 12th this past weekend, which was the best finish he's had since the Wyndham in 2015. You've been inside the robes. You've been watching Tiger for a few decades now. What are your thoughts on this latest comeback from Tiger? Well, you know, he's had the surgery that he probably should have had in the first place. I think part of the problem was, you know, he had a little done at a time.

He had only just what was necessary instead of having the damn thing used the first time. So if he can stay healthy and only a fool would think that he can't win. And the key is, you know, can he keep that back in good condition? I saw him a sports center this morning and the first chance I'd had to see him swing. And it looks pretty darn good to me, that's for sure. Yeah, he, you know, he seems to have answered the health thing for the, you know, we're all crossing our fingers here. You know, we don't want to say anything too crazy, but assuming the health thing is good to go, you know, what do you need to see or what would you? like to see that would make you think,

okay, this is more like the guy that I covered in the mid or early 2000s? You can see it in the way that he walks. You can see it in his body language, you know, the attitude. It's, you know, he gets, you get little reminders of it from time to time the way that it was.

And it's not going to be the way that it was. You know, my children aren't going to see that kind of golf. You know, their children aren't going to see the kind of golf of the Tiger Woods later on the turn of the century. It was an extraordinary thing to witness. But the point is he doesn't have to play that well to win. He can win with A-9. People have really short memories, boys.

They forget just how dominant Tiger Woods was. And as good as these kids are, you know, Justin and Jordan and Dustin and the guys up at the top of the money list at the minute. They're not Tiger Woods. We're not going to see another one of those. So I mentioned it before. You know, you've, of course, walked inside the ropes with Tiger many, many times. Guys like us, you know, I was out there yesterday for a few hours.

I saw him from about 300 yards away and I could barely move. What's Tiger like inside the ropes, you know, during a four or five hours of a competitive round of golf? You know, it depends, obviously, in Harry's playing. and, no, it depends what round it's in, you know, how close you get to finish. But one of the luckiest things that ever happened to me was whenever I became a broadcaster, a Tiger Woods turned pro about 10 minutes before. And in the early years, we would walk along, you know, and there was some juvenile behavior, I'll admit it.

And, you know, we tell jokes, and, I mean, he really, I kind of missed that tiger, the one that I watched grow up, because he got beaten up by the media so badly, you know, so quickly. It wasn't about a couple of years before he was talking to me underneath the bill of his cap so that he couldn't be lip-red. You know, so, I mean, that's how it went for him. And you talk about, you know, the crowd being rowdy and people shouting and yelling. I, you know, I saw so many and heard so much of that kind of abusive, you know, behavior early on in his career.

That every week he gets it, and he still gets it for this day. Yeah, Rory McElroy said after Riviera that, you know, he thinks Tiger probably loses nearly two shots of tournament because of, you know, how crazy the crowds are that follow him. You know, do you see some truth into that, haven't been inside the ropes with it? Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me at all. You know, I mean, the focus that he has is extraordinary, given the distractions that are on, you know, the cameras and just people that want to get a glimpse of, you know, of this guy. The effect that he has on the game is extraordinary, even at this point.

Yeah, I, again, being out there yesterday, it was appalling seeing, you know, the difference between the final group and, you know, Tiger, who was several groups in front, I mean, you couldn't even get anywhere near the ropes on two holes in front of Tiger and the leading groups that's from Sparse Crowd. So he still brings it. Well, then you got the Sam Burns kid who he shot a 68 to Tiger 70 yesterday. That's some real metal right there.

Very impressive. No, I would. I didn't hear about that. That's pretty good. Yeah, he was gutsy out there. Is there anything, you know, is there any one or most memorable or anything that sticks out that Tigers said to you inside? the ropes that that's kind of stuck with you at all? Yeah, there are, but there's nothing I can say on the radio.

Damn it. Tusha. Pretty sense of humor, but I wouldn't want to go with it. So, you know, we've talked about Tiger. We've talked about Jack. Both of them have weighed in recently on the golf ball, this whole debate about dialing back to golf ball. What are your thoughts on this idea that, you know, maybe golf's just gotten too long, and in order to sort of,

preserve the courses and kind of rain in the expansion of courses and whatnot that the golf ball needs to change. Well, I'll tell you what I think, what I've thought for the last 25 years, and I've been saying for the last 25 years. And I'm delighted to be able to say it on your show, on your podcast, because I know that everybody at the RNA and USDA will be listening intently. True. Yep. You need to make the golf ball bigger, you idiot. Yeah, just a little bit bigger. And it cures everything.

We did it before. It went from 1.62 to 1.68 inches. We could go to 1.72 or something like that. And the ball wouldn't go as far. It spins a little more, so it's a little bit harder to hit scrape. It sits up around the grains a little better, so it's better for amateurs. and the area that, you know, they have most difficulty is in and around the greens. It just makes too much sense.

And I think that's why the USDA and the R&I aren't considering it. It makes the ball bigger, for God's sake, get it over with. Interesting. I like that. It's not diota, and it's just make it bigger. Do you have to expand the hole then or a hole staying the same? No, the hole stays the same. You know, the bigger surface area on the ball just creates more drag.

And, you know, it's a little harder to head straight, and it's a little harder to hit in a very long way. It brings our old golf courses back into relevance. And, you know, it just makes common sense. That's all. I didn't realize. Manufacturers can make what they want. You know, you don't have to talk about the trampoline effect anymore.

You know, when I grew up, the trampoline effect was a broken ankle. Really. Not to find some off the club face. all these rules and regulations about equipment. A lot of them you could throw out if you made the ball bigger. I like that. We've got Farity, the Scientists, on the show. That's a nice addition.

So we mentioned earlier that we made our TV debut this past Thursday on Golf Channel's Morning Drive. What, you know, as such a seasoned veteran out there, you have any advice on television appearances for guys like us? Oh, you know, you should wear a tie, but don't do up the top button. You know, for me, that has worked incredibly well. People think that I'm sort of relaxed, but somehow intelligent, which neither of which is true. But I heard you guys did a great job. Well, we very much appreciate that.

We think it went really well. My problem, David, is I never know what to do with my hands, and I was doing this sort of praying motion going back and forth. Do you have any advice for me on what to do with my hands when I'm on TV? Are you sounding up? We were sitting down this time around. Are you sitting down on a dais in front of you or are your hands in your lap? Hands in the lap.

We had nothing in front of us. We were kind of sitting on like open chairs. Okay. Yeah. Well, you just need to grab your crotch then. I agree. Perfect. Yeah.

Trent? That's fun to hold up to it. fairly tightly. I always do. Trent struggled with his hands and then he also didn't know where to look. Do you have any advice on what you should look at when you're on TV? Well, usually the camera. I really could have used that.

No, the thing is, I am not a big fan of the kind of, it started on ESPN years ago, where if a reporter asks a question to, you know, a, you know, colleague, you know, instead of looking at the person, you know, there's a glance at the camera, then a glance back at the person, then a glance at the person, then a glance at the camera, then a glance back. Somebody asks you a question, look at them. Okay. You know, when you're answering, that's, you know, it's simple etiquette, you know, to me.

You don't have to look at the viewers. You know, they're boyers. They're looking in on this, you know, listening to it. Yeah, it's nice to have someone else say that to Trent, because I did tell them afterwards. Because what happened was they had a TV underneath the camera that was showing us. So I think Trent might be obsessed with himself because he was just looking at himself on TV the whole time. My narcissism really my narcissism really showed through on TV. It is difficult to keep your eyes off that though.

Yeah. If you're not used to it, it's kind of odd. All right, David Faradie, we really appreciate you sitting down with us. A quick reminder, Farity is back for the 28. 18 edition March 5th at 9 p.m. Eastern on golf channel. David Faradie, thank you very much, sir. Hi, boys. Nice to be on. Thank you. This interview with David Faradie is brought to you by our friends at Four Hymns.

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dot com enter the promo code for play get 15% off your entire order now if you missed it this is our our appearance on golf channel yep this is our tvs debut. This is great. There's no visual. So the people who didn't see it and didn't hear it, they're not going to see my hand motions. They're just going to hear us talking about a bunch of issues. I want you to envision as you listen to this, Trent's praying motion, praying hands together, moving them around. Although they are going to miss us doing the fusion thing, which was very funny. Fusion thing's great. That's all on the website. If you go in there and you just look up, you know, the 4 Play Boys on Golf Channel, you're going to see that. But anyway, enjoy this clip. And I believe that's all I got this week. Me too. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. A couple faces and voices from Barstow Sports. That's Riggs and Trent. Guys, welcome to the show.

Matt, thanks a lot for having us. We really appreciate it. Happy to be here. I should definitely start by saying thank you. Thank you for making me both laugh and cry on a daily basis at the current state of humanity. You're very welcome. We like to have fun with it. We like to not take ourselves too seriously.

So, Matt, you're very welcome. Guys, you know about connecting with a younger audience, obviously. Your master's at it. In your opinion, how does golf get better at connecting with a younger audience? Well, look, I mean, you just kind of heard it from Jason Day. A lot of what we're doing, I think, is important. I think what we do at Barstool is working. I think that what Jason finished with saying, look, this is how you connect to the younger audience.

You've got to kind of focus on the things that we've been able to do. And what that is is we don't take ourselves too seriously. We sort of cover everything. I mean, obviously, Trent and I do golf. Golf is a big part of our job. But we cover everything at Barstool like we're just normal people sitting around at a bar. Whatever the news is, whatever the sports are, we're going to talk about that, like normal people. We're going to have fun.

We're going to point out the funny, interesting things. And sometimes it's going to be a little stupid, but generally we try to be amusing and funny. And that's kind of our goal. We think that's where golf should go. Yeah, the essential idea is barstool is a wall. way that you cover sports in a different way. So then when we just took it and took it to golf, and it's obviously resonated with a lot of people. Yeah, on that note, Trent, your, your podcast, for play, the mantra seems to be by the common golfer for the common golfer. Is that what you're

talking about here? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we, you know, we kind of started it a year ago now. We didn't have, you know, we don't have any professional training and journalism, anything like that. We're not journalists. We're fans. We love the game. Right out of the gate, we're able to get Ali Schneiderjans on. You know, he followed Barstool. We followed him back. We said, hey, man, you want to come on? Right away, we had a ton of fun with him. We talked to him for about, I don't know, 10 minutes about his hair. Yeah. He said he uses shampoo from the hotel for his hair. Hard-hitting questions like that. So just little things like that. You know, we're having fun with the guys. You're watching the guy play. He doesn't have a hat on. You think that's

different. We think that's different. He uses hotel shampoo. Wow, that's shocking. So, you know, we just try to have fun with it. We try to take a different approach. We try to kind of bring these guys to life. And we've had a lot of guests. We've had, You know, Gil Hans, who's a course architect, Trent and I would never claim to be, you know, golf course architect, experts by any stretch the imagination. But we ask very simple questions like, hey, Gil, you know, how come there's all this grass, there's trees, and there's giant pits of sand?

Like, where does a bunker come from? Why are there giant pits of sand? And, you know, he says if you go back through, you know, the history of old Tom Morris and those guys designing St. Andrews, and they couldn't move dirt, and they said, hey, what's just built pits? And there's sandy-type turf here. That's where bunkers come from. So little things like that where, again, we're not experts, we have fun with it, and we bring out the fun in those things.

Yeah, people like the response we get to our interviews is that, oh, I like that guy a little bit more now because the environment is a little more relaxed, and you get a different side. It's not a formal interview. We're not trying to skewer anybody. We kind of like, we tell them before you, and it's going to be very informal. We're going to ask, you know, normal questions, and they seem to, you know, react positively to that environment, and the listeners like it, too. Trent, the Waste Management Phoenix Open. You recently called it the greatest golf event of your life. I think I know why, but I'll give you a chance to answer.

Well, it's a very cool event. So we showed up, we'll just tell our story. We showed up at 5 a.m. at the gates. There's already hundreds of people out front. It's very much our type of event, a barstool type of event. The doors open at 7. You sprint as fast as you can to the 16th hole. And then you're in the stands by 7 a.m.

And then you have four hours between then and when the golfers are going to come through. And those four hours are the most fun you could ever have. There's chanting, they're singing. It's a very, very fun event. Yeah, it's pretty interesting to be sitting around. I mean, there's 40 or 50,000 people sitting around in a circle for about four hours, and we were just cheering at grass. I mean, that was literally the only thing we were doing.

We were chanting. We were singing not a single golf shot was hit, and we had the most fun we've ever had. So, you know, it's not for everybody. It's not for every single week. That's the cliche. Everybody talks about that. But we went, we showed up. We didn't have any tickets.

We bought our tickets at 5 a.m. We waited in line, and we couldn't have more. Yeah, along those lines, it's not for everybody. Some people will say rooting against somebody on the golf, course, it's just not something that should happen. Trent, you disagree. Yeah, I think it's, it goes kind of back to what Riggs was saying when he laughs in your face, when he lasts in my face, when I miss a six-foot putt. There should be, it's fine when you do with your buddies, and I think it should be fine when you are watching golfs. Everyone has people they root against. It just seems,

it's for some reason in golf, there's this notion that you can't root against the guy when I think actually makes it more fun to root against somebody as it's almost as fun as rooting for someone. Yeah, I mean, I just think it's, it's human nature. It's, competitive nature if you're if you're a competitive guy in any other sport you're you want you know your opponent to mess up a little bit that's just that's natural and golf again there's always this notion well you never root against anybody couldn't disagree more i root against people all time when i play with my buddies you know when it comes down to a four footer on 18 and I'm one down I want that guy to miss more than anything in the world and I think that's okay

I don't think that's a malicious thing I'll take my hat off I'll shake his hand afterwards I'll be a gentleman about it but I want to win in order to do that sometimes your opponent's got to mess up and it makes golf more interesting when you have a person that you can root against it makes it more fun. And every other sport, you've got teams or specific players that you root against, and that makes it just as much fun. So to think that you can't translate that to golf, it seems a little silly. Tiger Woods is back out on the golf course as we speak.

This particular comeback, how and why does it feel a little different this time? Well, Matt, that's just a fantastic question. Let me tell you about the fusion. So look, we hear nonstop. I read these articles. I see on the graphics. Tigers have four back surgeries. This is his fourth return from back surgery.

No, no, no, no. Tiger's had the three back surgeries. He's had one fusion. In order to understand the difference, you have to realize how the spinal cord works. Okay, you've got the spinal cord. Everybody knows that. Dr. Riggs. What makes up the spinal cord are these discs?

That's how you get your mobility or flexibility. These discs, you've got to think about them, Matt. You've got to think about them like a jelly donut. Okay. Jelly donut, obviously the inside full of jelly. When you get little holes or when it starts to tilt, it starts to get slanted, that jelly starts to seep out. The jelly, Matt, okay?

The jelly or the nerves? It's the nerve endings. When those nerve endings, they start to touch other things, right? They start to poke around. They start to slip out. That's unbelievably painful. Guys can't move. They're stuck.

My roommate, sorry, Trent. My roommate, he's got a little backaches. He came home one time, right? He's got a nerve ending slipping out. He's laying on the floor. He can't move. That's Tiger. What happens with the fusion.

Okay? The other back surgeries, they try to tweak the discs, all that. The fusion, Matt, they go, right? They take all that. They take everything. They go, And they fuse it right up.

That's why when you talk to you hear from Tiger's interviews, he goes, well, everything's different. I'm fused now, right? You don't have that mobility, this aren't moving. He's like, he's more machine than man now. He's got a titanium rod as his back. He's fused up. The injuries are good.

The back's ready. We're ready to rock, Tiger's back. And we no longer need Dr. Ari here on one age of each other. So thank you for that. Not a spinal surgeon, but that's how I understand it. Trent, your commissioner for a day. What do you do? What's your one big move that you make to the PGA tour?

Somehow make it so they can't play college basketball on Sundays because there is this gap between that has been happening more and more and people go crazy for it where it needs to be the end of a game or trying to watch golf. But for some reason, college basketball, you know, they show that instead. So if I was PGA tour commissioner for a day, I would somehow get rid of college basketball on Sundays. Yeah, I agree.

And we thank you for that. Guys, thanks again for everything you do. Thanks again for coming on the show and your love and appreciation for the game of golf. Hope to catch up with you again in the near future.