Fore Play - Gnarly Bro, featuring Ryan Sheckler

Episode Date: October 20, 2021

Skateboarding icon Ryan Sheckler (01:14:44) joins the show. Like all of us, he’s got the golf bug and he’s got it bad. We delve into being a child prodigy, turning pro at age 14, cool skateboarding vs golf lingo, and the similarities between improving one’s golf game and learning new tricks. Before Ryan, we discuss Riggs’ trip to Prairie Dunes in Kansas, not being a morning podcast and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, observe at Barstool Sports. Not a morning podcast. It's fucking 652 in the morning where I am right now. It's 752 in the morning where you guys are right now. I'm in Kansas. We're not a morning podcast.

So what happens in the next hour and a half, two hours, however long we do this bullshit shindig that we're doing here, sounds crazy. and rambling and a little bit out of sync, that's because we're not a morning podcast and it's extremely early in the morning. The sun, gentlemen, here in Kansas, doesn't come up for an hour. How about that? Does it come up till 7.45 in the morning here?

Dude, we've done early podcasts before and we've talked about how we're not a morning podcast. And on all of those podcasts, at least for me personally, I have woken up early enough where I could shower, splash and water my face. Sometimes I'll walk to the Starbucks and I'll get a coffee. coffee. This podcast in particular, I woke up four minutes ago. You sound terrible. I just, I woke up four minutes. I, you know, it was a late night.

It was, it was the bachelor night. So we got to do cutting stems. And then we do the podcast afterwards. No excuses. But I got into bed pretty late. And I made the decision. I made the call before I went to bed. I was like, we're pushing it to the max. Like, we're just going to sleep as much as we possibly can. And then we're going to hop on this podcast. So that's what I did. I will say, I feel better than I thought I would now that I'm up and I'm talking to you guys. But as of four to five minutes ago, I was unconscious. Got that groggy voice, so do I. Now that I speak for the first time in the morning.

Oh, you sound terrible too. It's a little, it's just a little, it's a little too early to talk golf at the boys, you know? It's just, you know, we do the show for hundreds of thousands of people, whatever the number is. And it's like, I'm not prepared to speak about golf right now. You know, it's just I'm not, this isn't a morning, like, radio show. Like, I'm not that guy. It's, like, going to take you on your commute from, you know, your house to work. If we were a morning, if we were a morning radio show, what would we, like, prank call people?

We'd prank call hotels and shit and pretend like the Pope stayed there. Like, what would we, what would we do? Yeah, like Z-100, Z-100's the goat morning show. New York, Elvis Duran in the Z-Mourning Zoo. They were just unbelievable. They were unbelievable, man. Like Z-100, I mean, they're still unbelievable, but like the golden years of morning radio was Z-100.

Elvis Duran, man. They just, they had all these guys. They had Froggy, and he'd do prank calls, and they would call people live on the show and mess with them. And you just, like, it got you to work. Like, when I was going to high school, you turned on Z-100, and you laughed your ass off until, like, you just couldn't believe, like,

you felt like an adult because like the adults are talking about funny stuff and you were on your way to high school and you finally got a car like that's that's that's what i remember of morning radio and then obviously you have like the uh you know boomer and carton those guys i don't know how they do it how the fuck does boomer is now it's not carton anymore it's boomer and geo sorry but how the fuck does boomer as i do what he does man that guy works more than anyone on the planet well i mean morning radio is is an insane lifestyle you guys you guys got to get up at like 3 a.m. And then you go into the studio and you do prep and you do this whole thing. Like we only see morning radio for the couple hours that they're on. But that's like,

that's like looking at a glacier. You just see the tip of it. But under it, they've been working for hours. And that's same. That's like, like the today show. I feel like they get up at like midnight. And then they start preparing and they do makeup and they do all this bullshit. And then they're just on TV from like 4 a.m. until 7 a.m. whatever it is. They've been up for six or seven an hour. What kind of, what kind of world is that? What kind of life is that? Like, when do you go to sleep? When do you go to sleep? I've never understood that, right?

Like, how does boomer Sison, like, and he does Sunday football, right? Like, he's on the studio. He does, like, he does the NFL shows. So, like, how does this guy do it? I, um, I don't know. It's really, it's really an impressive thing. But I remember when I was working as a security guard and I would do third shift, which was 10 p.m. to 6 a.m.

You would have to go to bed at two or three in the afternoon and wake up at nine and then shower and get ready. And you're not even a person. Like you're not even part of society at that point because you're sleeping when everyone else is up. You're awake when everybody else is sleeping and you just never see what's actually going on. And it's honestly a very strange existence. Think about how unsecure that corn factory was when you're fucking sleeping at 2.3rd in the afternoon. You show up like a zombie. You don't know what's going on.

You can't see what's up, what's down. The move at that point is then you just mainline as much black coffee as you can drink. And then I'm ready to, I'm ready to fight. I'm ready to do anything that they need me to do. But your brain is fried for most of it. Yes. Sorry to the people that usually listen to this show for the energy and wake them up, right? Like they listen to this show on Tuesday mornings or Thursday mornings expecting us to keep them occupied and entertain as they're tired on their way to work at 6 o'clock in the morning, 7 o'clock in the morning.

Unfortunately, this morning, we're going to be tired and remind you that you should go back to bed and not make it to work and like just turn around and go back home. It's not worth it. You know what I mean? Like we have that, we have the wrong vibes this morning. Like, I'm ready to crawl back under my covers. Can we just tell people this show is going to suck? Don't listen to this show. What are we going to talk about?

I have no idea. I've done nothing. I've just, I woke up two minutes ago. What do you want me to talk about? We can talk about Owens. You guys are you talking about Owens? Yeah.

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3 a.m. God. See, dude. Dude, there's a chipping green. There's a chipping green right here. I'm talking right outside my little window here, and they got a fire pit out there. So you're at the fire pit.

I'm at Prairie Dunes in Hutchinson, Kansas. They got a fire pit and a putting green and a chipping green out there. They got this little pyramid of balls that's just taunting you. It's just looking at you, chirping you're chirping you. Like, oh, you guys won't do a fucking chipping contest before you go to sleep. I bet you won't do it. I bet you won't do it. So you're walking off the green, walking off the fire pit.

You walk right by this green. Next you know, you're going to a two and a half, three hour chip off with a bunch of the fellas. And it's 3 a.m. And you're going to do a podcast with you morons at 645. And here we are trying to get through this. But Owens, okay, great day. I should play 36 holes out here. Nothing better than a transfusion, delicious transfusion cocktail.

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So next thing I knew, I was deep in one because we were doing a chip-off, which credit to your boy here, I won four out of six chip-offs with six. different guys we had maybe seven no i think we had six guys and we did six different um chipping contests where we just did elimination so we started with six guys anybody everybody starts chips the first person that gets out picks the next chip for everyone and you just go till there's one person left i won four out of six and i lost a championship in another one and i lost i finished third the next time you do a lot of chipping man you're a pretty good chipper really good chipper. You're probably on par with like, you probably chip just as much as pro golfers.

I mean, at that point, I don't know how much more anyone can chip. I think they chip a lot. You don't think you chip. You don't think you chip at the same level as you think, uh, Collmore Cowher hits more chips per day than you? Way more. I think you do, like way more. Well, let's see. How many chips are you getting off per day, Riggs? Per day? Yeah. Like in a practice setting? Are you doing chips every day? No.

Not even close. Okay. Okay. I mean, I do post the daily nine, but a lot of times I rush to a course. I run out to a practice screen or something. I put nine balls down. I set up a tripod. I make sure I got like G4 and all my good stuff out there.

I hit nine fucking chips. I take everything down and I leave. Right. But even a lot of times, like, I'll do putting or I'll do a range thing where I'll hit a ball. So on those days, I'm not. hitting any chips at all. And a lot of times that I'll do the daily nine chips. I am trying to work on stuff,

but I'm just trying to get through it so that we can fucking post this. And when I, I think the better product is a lot of times when I actually have time to like sit down and focus on the chipping. And there are days when that happens when I can really try to chip.

But I've said to you guys many times that growing up, you know, my dad loved to chip and put and like to go to the range more than you ever like to actually go out and play golf. So we would chip and put a decent amount. And if I get time now to just go to a course and fuck around,

even if I'm not filming anything, I'm just hanging out. A lot of times I'll just chip for, you know, an hour or two. But I think that Calamore Cow are in company, I think they do that every fucking day. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, I guess it's just a sieving. You see you chip every day, but it probably is not.

I mean, I ask you the same question people ask Dave. Like, what do you do with the rest of the pizza? Like, he's like, I don't eat the whole thing. I just eat the slice. Give it away. That's right. It's pretty much like that. Where people are like, man, you really do grind all the time.

And I'm like, no, I know. I know it's just like kind of a video to be honest. It's not, you know. And now occasionally I will and I do like to do that as practice if I'm ever in a situation where I'm actually practicing golf. But you know, we're on the road a lot. We're travel around to either Barstow Classic. We're filming shit or at a tournament.

It's not like I have a ton of time or as much time as people would think. But occasionally I do get a good amount of practice time. And when I do get that, I like to chip more than I like to do anything else. Like if I stand in the range and hit balls, if I can hit, If I hit 15 or 20 drivers, you know, I might get to a point where I get hit eight or 10 pretty good ones. But you know how it is. You don't want to lose it. So then by the time you get to the 16th driver, you start spraying them.

You're like, I'm putting this fucking thing away. I don't want to leave this range being like, man, I couldn't hit driver anymore. So I'll just go chip a putter or something. Yeah, totally. Definitely chip more than the average person and then not even close to the pro. That's what I think. I think it would be shocking how much they chip. I think they're chipping for like two or three hours a day.

I think they're just chipping. That's something that I'm not prepared for. Someone messaged me. Actually, a lot of people message me about Squid Game. I want to give an update on that. Oh, yeah. I thought the best response was from. And now I'm just going to not read his name.

I'm going to forget. Basically, he said, no, you can't say he. You got to come up with his name. Man, I'm not going to find him, man. There was too many. You could just make it up and no one would know. I feel weird doing that, though. That's fair.

Gotta be honest. I don't think I'm going to find it, man. I don't think I'm going to find it. Anyway. Is his name Tyler? It wasn't Tyler. Okay. No, I think he said it was Tyler.

Yeah, I think before we hopped on you were like, I got this good idea from Tyler about the Squid Game thing. Anyway, let me tell you the idea, and then I'll find his name. The idea is essentially that when you call out Squid Game, you are now challenging that person to the same shot. Okay? So we all get like one squid game around. And let's say like Riggs is super confident that Lurch is going to miss a 15 footer,

but also very confident that he's going to make it. So like essentially if I think that Trent's never going to get out of a bunker, this is an easier one. I can just say squid game and I go in there with him with an extra ball. And if I get, if he doesn't get out and I do, he loses the club he used for the rest of the round. You know what I mean? So now the opposite is like if Trent gets out and I don't, I now lose my club. So there's a lot of pros and cons to it where like you're never going to ask the person for a 50-foot putt because then you have to hit the 50-foot putt.

Got it. So there will be these funny times where like Lurch is staying over a five-foot putt and you're just like Squid Game. And you know you're making it and he misses it. He loses his putter for the rest of the round. and he's done. That is ideal. And if you both make it, you just go on, you go on your way. I think you lose your squid game call.

I think there will be many opportunities on a T-shot, right? Like, Flerch is striping his driver and it's a tough T-shot wind off the left or something, and he knows I don't have any chance of hitting the fairway or barely. He could squid games me, you're saying, I miss the fairway. He steps up with his driver. He hits the fairway. My driver is now out of my bag for the rest of the round. Yeah, but so I think you get a chance to like, all right,

now you switch to a club that you know you're going to hit the fairway, right? Like it puts more pressure on you to hit the fairway. Where if he's just like, because I don't know if he can call out on. I like it. I like it. No, I'm in. I think what you just described is amazing because if you basically have to validate. Having to validate it is another level and that's impressive.

And that like you're not just chirping me saying I can't make a 15 footer, can't hit a drive or the wind's out. Like then you have to step up, do it, validate it. And once you validate it, I'm fucked for the rest of the round. And that's truer to the show in the game. Everyone participates. Nobody gets one challenge and the other person doesn't have to do it. Everybody has to participate.

So making the person who's challenging participate in whatever may be a bunker shot, a putt, whatever, that is truer to the squid game. So I like it as well, Tyler. That wasn't his name, man. either. Is that, is, did you get any other outlandish, uh,

suggestions that you sort of like that you could maybe workshop a little or no? No, I honestly, I mean, people were saying you got to break the club and like, you know, it got, it got crazy.

It got chaotic. Um, is my phone just buzzing? Like, who has their phone on? Ding like that? Um, person.

That's a huge, uh, as a guy that travels a lot, goes to airports. Every person over, I would say, 60 has their phone at maximum value making mode all of the time. No,

but just all of the time. Totally. And you can hear of typing text as like click, click, click, click, click, click, click. And then you look at them texting and their text is, one word takes up the entire screen because it's so large and their phone just making noises. And you're like, you know, you could live a life where all those little dings and noises are just basically aggregated

and they're kept private until a moment when you would like to check your phone and then they're all still just on there and there's a system where they will notify you of what those people wanted to say to you. But as the dings roll in, man, like we're losing our fucking sanity over here. You guys need to calm down.

Old people need to calm down with the phone. I think that's the modern version of the Seinfeld joke where he's talking about you reach a certain age where when you're backing out of the driveway, you don't, you don't even look. You're just like, I'm old. I'm going.

Like, deal with it. The version of that now is like, I'm old. My phone's super loud. I'm being writing texts that are huge. Fucking deal with it. It is chaos. When my dad's on his phone, it's chaos. It's legitimate.

There's noises. He's speaking into the phone. He doesn't type. Literally what my dad does when he texts is he sits there on the couch and stares at the phone and will voice to text. You know, the easiest. text ever. Like, where, where for dinner or something like that? Where are we going for dinner? And then it'll mess it up. And then he goes in and will select the thing that got wrong. Delete it with his finger

and then speak the new word. Right. So there's so many more movements that I've argued with him where it's like, you're now doing more than just typing it out. Like, you're finding the mistake. You're hitting it. You're selecting it. You're backing it up. And then now you're hitting the button again. to further speak into the phone. You need to just type it out. You have to type it out. What's his reason for that? Is it easier?

Does he think that he's using cutting edge texting technology and he wants to be a part of that world? Both combine. It's funny that voice texting is sort of like it's to a higher level than actual texting, but the only people that use it are old people. There's no young people being like, look how awesome this voice text is. We're all just hammering away at the keys. But I've seen some of the text, the voice text that your dad sends through to you.

And they're just, most of them don't even make sense. Yeah, I'm telling you, if you try to do voice texting or if your phone even read back to you a voice text, my dad would pull out a shotgun, I think, and just shoot the phone. Like, he would just shoot the phone into a thousand pieces. He can't, he can't have it. My dad, my dad texts and credit to him because he has realized that if we're all in a group setting, family setting. And he,

you know, we're talking about a plan or a friend that he wants to update or send a chirp to. He's a big like chirp texter now that he'll just give me his phone and be like,

hey, you need to text this to him because it'll take me, like we'll be here. It'll be an hour ordeal situation. But he kind of, he texts like Trent types. He uses one hand, the index finger,

and he just holds the phone fully with the other hand. So he'll hold his phone with his left hand and in his right hand just with his index finger, he'll just poke at it like a bird for however long the text message takes. And he's very focused on getting it right. And he's obsessed with the group text or the family group text, which I love. So every time he's with like our nephew Robbie, it is just like text after text, picture after picture, which is actually awesome because I think the only thing he ever texts is our family group text about what's going on.

So he is very much evolved and figured that out. But every time he sends a text, I can't help but think about how long it took him to actually formulate and send that picture and that text. And the fact that he'll accompany it with a photo is really amazing at this point from where we started. Yeah. That text took him. That means a lot for coming from him because you know how long it took. Totally. It was like for fucking 15 minutes, he sat there grinding over this text.

he had to backspace and the fact that he gets it as right as he gets it at this point. And I don't blame it. Like they didn't grow up with it. They're not committed to it, right? Like a lot of times they've just been adverse to it the whole time. They're just like this fucking thing, this phone. It's ruining everything. I can't like my kids, my grandkids.

They won't even talk at dinner because of this goddamn phone. Now you're supposed to embrace that thing. He's like, so they've had that the whole time for the last 10 years. But regardless, there's no reason for them to have. have their phone be as loud as humanly possible. Like anytime, anytime, I think my mom or my dad, and my mom listens to every show, so I love you, mom. But every time they get a call,

it is like a nuclear alert is going off. When that thing, it's ringing and they're like trying to find it. And they thought it was in their front left, like coat pocket, but it's in the right. And you're just sitting here like, man, we're going to do this all day long. Every time you get a phone call, this is crazy. Right.

Think about every time we get an amber alert. you're like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. Someone's lost. Let's find that child. And, but for them, it's, it's a call from Riggs. It's a call from anybody. It's just a normal everyday thing. It's a horrifying sound.

It's so loud. My dad's got his on just like the house phone ring. It's just an actual. It's as loud as it can be. And you can't, you're like, you got to answer it. You're jumping to the phone because you can't believe what's happening around you. So I will say he

immediately. He is definitely outrageous with his phone, but he's good at it. He knows how to search the web. He'll send me links. He can go on TikTok and find something funny. Like he knows every,

he finds our podcast every day. He watches all the YouTube videos. He's able to go to the next YouTube videos, send links. So he does know the technology, but he's definitely like still loves the loud noises. the voice to text. So he almost enjoys the phone more than I do. I almost, I almost wish I

enjoyed my phone as much as he did. Right. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, because he gets to utilize all the technology on it. I don't talk to Siri. I don't say, hey, Siri, what is that? Like, I don't do any of that stuff. Well, and also they went 60, 50 or 60 years without it. Like, we're so conditioned to it that we, we look at these things and we're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, big deal. It has every answer in the whole world in it. And they're like, can you believe that this thing has every answer in the whole world in it. Like my dad, in a group setting, in a family group setting, he is just taken on the role as fact checker.

So like when me and my brother, my dad are watching a football game say, and it's an NFL game and it's going on and we're like, man, where did that guy go to college? Without even having to say anything, he'll just pick up his phone and immediately start to Google that guy and where he went to college. And then he'll just call it out. He'll say Michigan State and we'll be like, oh, that's what I thought. and then we'll just keep it rolling until the next question comes out. And he loves that.

He's like our Tony Realli at these family events where he just checks every fact and we don't have to do it. And he just calls it out and we keep it moving. But the parents love the cell phones. They just don't totally know how to control the volume of them. The big that we'll be watching football at my girlfriend's house and her dad will go, he has a little Alexa underneath the TV. It's right under the TV. So every question, oh, like you're saying, oh, like who are the Giants? play next week. Alexa. And then the voice from the, the, the, the, the sound from the TV will

sometimes interrupt it. And it's like, it's a, it's a 10 minute thing where it's like, and you see the light, like, the little blue Alexa thing will, like not get it and it'll turn red. And it'll be like, please repeat that back. Alexa, what? It's just like, they're playing the Seahawks. You know what I mean? You're just like, I know it. I know it now because I just typed in, all I typed in was GI into Google and it, like already finished it. I hit it. Schedule came up. I know exactly who they're playing. I know every single game they've ever played for their entire franchise history. We don't need to talk to that piece of that.

Yeah, my dad used to be an Alexa guy, but he had too many like run-ins with Alexa that he was like, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm using my phone. They're listening to us sleep. He just fucking throws it out in the garbage. Do your guys' parents do the thing too where, you know, their phone, like I said, they get a phone call and it's ringing and it's just the most insane alert system of all time. And they'll be like, after two or three rigs, they'll be like, is that, is that mine? You guys think that's mine?

Yeah. And you're like, you know, I'm not trying to be a dick, but I like process elimination that I've known that was yours. It's either you or the local fire department. I don't know who it is. There's no way that's not yours. Like it's been going crazy now for three rigs. Who did you think that was?

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