Fore Play - “Google me, you broom” with Ryan Whitney & Barstool Big Cat

Episode Date: August 16, 2018

Everybody's favorite muppet man Ryan Whitney hops on to defend his opinion that he'd take 10 albatrosses over 1 hole in one. He also, in a rare show of vulnerability, reveals that Frankie hurt him with his chirp about Whit's Bowen Cup loss. Also, in what is BY FAR the most heated, intense, and honestly uncomfortable exchange in Fore Play history, Big Cat sits down to discuss his Tiger trolling, to deliver a statement, and to negotiate how we're all going to move forward together in a post-fusion world. Buckle up, this show brings a level of fire that we've never brought before!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We have Ryan Whitney on, and we also have Big Cat on. We had Ryan Whitney on before Big Cat, and so much happened with Big Cat that I've, like, forgotten that we had Ryan Whitney on. Completely forgotten. It feels like that was like two days ago when we recorded with Whitney. It feels like it was a month ago. Yeah.

It's like, oh, wow, we've had that Ryan Whitney one in our pocket for a month. It's really been three hours. That literally happened a couple hours ago. Whitney is an electric factory. I've never seen him like this. He's kind of rattled Frankie. Frankie, you caught him vulnerable on Twitter. He was exposed, and I shot my shot.

I was holding on to it. I had a bullet just waiting for him, and I shot it, and boy, I think it hit. It hit. I mean, he even, like, conceded on Twitter that he was like that. You crossed the line. He said during the interview, he says, you guys got me rattled, which I never thought I would hear him say. He was rattled by Frankie. Could be my biggest victory here at Barcelona yet.

Big time. And then he gets into it about this argument that he had with a buddy where I was saying he was completely wrong. I think we all kind of agreed that he's just wrong. So not only did Frankie jab him, but then you also, we had him in a situation where a lot of people on Twitter were like he's wrong. I think most people on Twitter was kind of like 50-50 or maybe 60-40. So we get into all of that, which is the debate is, Would you rather have one hole in one or ten double eagles? We get into all of that.

And then Big Cat, I mean, it gets so contentious with Big Cat. Trent almost walks out of the room. Yeah. Is the most mad I've ever seen Trent defending Tiger going after Big Cat, not buying any of his bullshit. Then Frankie and I were there. There's a lot going on. First of all, we have to talk about Shady Ray's, which.

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well deserved because he's an idiot and he you know and he likes he's getting into it with us he's throwing these fucking insults where he's calling us every appliance every kitchen item you Well, Whitney's... Brooms, mops, everything. Whitney's a funny guy. I'll be the first to admit it. I find him very funny on Twitter. If I wasn't always in these...

I was in the mud with him all the time. I would find him to be, you know, one of the funniest Twitters on the whole website. But sometimes, you know, he throws out one or two just wrong opinions. Most of the time he's right. Most of the time he's on the correct side of the arguments. Because he's just like, like, like you said, he throws in the digs with the names and he just, like, makes you feel like an inferior human being.

And usually it works. Like, with you, Riggs, he just tells you like he's rich. And it's just like... Like, okay, I lose. But with this specific time, I think he got, he let it get away from him. Just real quick. So we're going to let people be the judge. You know, we let Witt speak for himself.

He's firing on all cylinders. It's a great chat. This is, uh, this is Ryan Whitney. Hello. Whitney. What's up? Whit, you fucking clown. What a loser.

Oh, you guys are fucking, you guys are calling me. I'm a loser. You guys are fucking losers. What are you doing right now? Where are you? I just got home. I just drove home from Sleepy. Sleepy Hollow is fantastic.

Did we talk about that in the last podcast? No, I'd never been until I went yesterday. I played 36. Place is incredible. Sleepy Hollow is a top, probably top five or ten course I've ever played. It's awesome. Yeah, it's in my top ten, I think. It's so fun, too.

Like, you can miss it. It's just money. If anybody gets a chance to get out to Sleepy Hollow. Witt, I did love too. I was texting Witt about his round. He's like, dude, I'm like, dude. I'm fucking 100 through like 13 I'm buzzing I was like watch out for 15 and 18 He texts me like 20 minutes like here's I just fucking three jacked on 15 you cock suck

No you know what though I three jacked 14 I was fucked up I was I met I messed up I had mess up I had met I had to my head I three jacked 15 I didn't three jacked but the green dude they didn't I mean it had rained like ridiculous amounts in New York apparently so they weren't cut and Rolled the kid kept telling me like you don't understand how fast he'd be and I could tell So I didn't get the full effect but yeah you still you still fuck me. No, I fucked you. It felt great, too.

I was, like, when I got that text, you should. I actually, I like fist pumped when I got that text. I was like, what an idiot. You should have sent it over to me. I would have, like, probably jerked off. I wanted to see your reaction right now, Frankie. Frankie's got a boom.

Frankie, you would have moosed me. I would have mooched me. Listen, you don't need anyone to be mushed. You're out here putting out the worst opinions on Twitter of all time. I mean, coming from a guy that usually has pretty bad opinions, I mean, what you said on Twitter last night

triggered the fuck out of me. you're a moron dude if you don't think that 10 fucking albatrosses is better than one hole in one you're an absolute so look I respect no opinion you have just so

I missed the whole thing last night so explain it to people who don't know what it is okay Trent I'll explain it I said on Twitter I said on Twitter that I don't even remember we were like drinking you know we were getting after it but it was

some to the extent of would you rather have 10 double eagles albatrosses, or would you rather have one hole in one? And I thought my friend was a complete idiot. I think he's now like changed his mind, by the way. He's almost started to think, like 10, 10, double, I don't know if there's a person in the world that has 10 double eagles. So if you're going to try to tell me that's not more impressive and more special, if one hole in one that is awesome, dude, granted,

if you give me a choice one hole in one versus one albatross or even two albatross, Obviously, I'm taking a whole one. Then that's the whole point. That's literally what you just fucking said is the entire point. The reason that you have to go to 10 is because a hole in one is this token thing that is so special. That's the reason you're not just doing a one versus one. That's the whole fucking point. So then where do you cross the line at like six and a half albatrosses?

Are you like now it's worth it? Like what are you talking about? No, asshole. Ten, like I said, double-digit albatrosses is fucking better than one whole one. So nine double, nine double eagles? are not good enough? You're like, no, that doesn't work for me. Nine? No, it has to be ten. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous statement. You're just pulling shit out of your ass now. That doesn't even make sense. No, I'm making statements. Double digits is when it really changes the game.

You even laugh there. You know how absurd that stuff. Listen, Whitney, I'll give you the point on, I mean, if you really know golf and like, you know, you're talking to a golfer and you said, man, I have ten fucking double egos. I'm sinking shots. I'm sinking four eye. from 235 yards out, like, once a week? Like, that's fucking sick. First of all, who are you hitting a four iron, 235? I'm saying if people are doing it. I said, well, you got to make a shot, right, from the fairway. So you just like, just. You guys, like, made it into a thing where I'm, like, shitting on hole in one.

I would, you know, by the way, I'm never going to get a hole in one. Have I told you guys this story? Why I'm not going to get one? Do you know this? Please tell me. I can't wait. Do we get to make funny? I started golfing.

when I was like 24, like all the time. Before then, I played like once a year. Like from age 12 to 24, I'd play once a year. I didn't like it. I sucked at it. So one day, I played down in the Cape. I was like 14 or 13 years old, maybe even younger, actually. I don't know.

I was with the kid that was in the video about the double league a hole in one. And I came home with my grandfather was a really good golfer. You know, rest of peace, he's not alive anymore. He played at the Salem Country Club and he played at Woods Hole, two great places in Massachusetts. I told him I got a hole in one. I didn't even know. I was like, I was like, I made a hole in one.

My body just starts laughing. Holy shit, did you really? Did you really? I was like, yeah, I was just like totally fucking around. He went out and made me a plaque. He went out and made me a thing to put the ball in. It is a whole lie. I made it up.

So I will never, ever get one now. No one has ever cursed themselves more. What do you? Why? You shouldn't even play a part three. I was just fucking around. I wasn't a golfer. I didn't know.

I was just like, I got a hole in one today. Like, just totally being a goof. That'd be like, dude, if you play in the NHL, you go engrave your name on the Stanley Cup, like, when you're, like, 15. What do you do? It's not like you were a toddler. You were a teenager. You knew what hole in one were.

He's 24, he said. You say you're 24? Yeah, but I didn't know, like, the important. Honestly, if you don't play golf, like, a hole in one's so cool, right? You don't know. I just didn't know. Disagree. I think Eddie people, you were Frankie's age.

You were Frankie's age. You're playing in the NHL. I was like 13. Oh, I thought you said you're 24. Jesus Christ. No, no, no, no. I don't know. Did I say 24?

No, I said, uh, I said, uh, you know, I was just being a punk. And then, you know, in being a golfer, like someone who appreciates golf what a whole one actually means, he, you know, made this amazing gift and then, you know, passed away before he ever found out it was all alive. Oh, he doesn't know. Holy shit. That makes me sick to my stuff. Darts.

I was like, holy fuck, he made a plaque. I'm not going to tell him. Yeah, you didn't have the hard to tell him. That's like when Frankie's dad didn't have the heart to tell him that he lost the square strike that Frankie bought him that he lost. Yeah, Whitney, I bought my dad all these, you know, crazy clubs because he can't hit. The chipper? Yeah, it was the chipper. Square strike because, you know, he loves to just cheat.

He loves to cheat. And I think it's like come down on me a little bit, it's trickling down on me. I'll always try and fluff up my balls and stuff. And he always just gives me a nice little wink. Like, I see what you're doing over there. That's my boy. That's my boy. Raised him right.

He's my boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I bought him that square strike, and then, you know, two weeks go by, he went out and played, and I played with him, and I'm watching him just skull-fuck balls across the green. I'm like, what's this guy doing? Why is he not using the square strike? A couple holes go by, I'm like, Dad, why are you not using the club I got you? And he just, like, puts his head down and goes, man, I didn't want you to find out, but I lost it. He goes, I left it on the fair wave.

The first time I brought it out, he goes, it was, I was hitting chips like you wouldn't believe. I was checking things up. Guys are like, Frank, well, look at your short game. He's like, he was buzzing. He said he went back to the golf course four different times to see if he had it. I mean, that club's like, that club is money. People gowering the internet trying to get a new one. People find that club on the ground.

You're taking it. Square Strike. Well, dude, it's like, I mean, how's the rally's doing? It's like 30 bucks. I'm buying new one. That's what I said. It's true. So this, our little battle here, by the way, with now, like, when you, you've kind of like

put yourself as like the anti-hole and one guy, so when you do get one, your buddies would be like, yeah, whatever. Like, Witt doesn't even... Witt doesn't even like calling one. I will never get one. I'll play 10,000 rounds and not get one. This time... I don't deserve one.

This battle divulged into a situation where Witt called me a broom on Twitter. Yeah. And then he got... Do people know that's like a golf term? Or I don't even know, like, if people got what I was saying. If you don't know golf, you know what a broom is? Or is a broom just, like, a loser in life, too.

I think a lot of people just looked at a broom as, like, you're just a loser. Yeah. Okay. But for golf fans, they know it just means you're a terrible golfer. It's like, it doesn't really mean you're a loser. It's a great golf chirp, though. This guy's a groom. It's a great golf chirp, I think it's a pretty good chirp in general.

Why was that a faucet? What's a faucet? A faucet means you're just sitting there alone, just dripping out bullshit, not stop, and nobody cares about you at all. You're just a faucet. You're just a faucet sitting there quietly in the kitchen, just dripping. Getting in arguments with or debates with Whitney just turns into like who can call each other, what type of appliance that's going to be.

the more man like I came in here wanting to call him like a brillo pad like frankie walked in looking me he goes I'm gonna call Whitney a brilopad I just I don't even know what that means we're just googling household items calling Whitney those things yeah you fucking like pancake maker you're brick frankie that's a brick I'll tell you guys that argument though that argument like I understand dude a whole one's incredible I mean I know I'm playing football side's defense a little bit but just as a golfer a double albatrosses are so incredible I mean

Dude, it's like it's so much harder than the 30 handicap, or my mom, who's played golf five times and has a whole one. It's just so much more impressive to me, and I'm about impressing, and I'm about also scoring the lowest number I can, and then Albatross makes you three underpart, and then a whole one makes you two. So I make some very valid points, and there's many people who agree with me. Look, I, the thing that's pissing me off is when you try to use the, like, an Albatross is clearly more impressive, it's a tougher shot. Yeah, fucking no shit. Everybody knows that. The whole difference, the reason that you have to get to 10, like I said, is because you know that one versus one is not the same thing. And Albatross, people in your group are like high-fiving you.

That's exciting. And a whole-on-one, you're going fucking bananas. You're texting everybody you know, you're going, you're buying drinks for the whole place. Maybe your grandpa buys you a plaque? You get a fake fucking plaque for your fake whole-on-one. You get all kinds of shit going on. I know. I just think you're kind of downplaying like a fucking double eagle from the 240-hour.

on a part of five, you're not just like high five in your playing partners. You're going just as crazy as if you get a hole in one, I think. I will say. I haven't been, I haven't seen an albatross in person. I've seen one at Granite Links, but it was like we were playing the teaser up because it was like a fucking, it was a, um, it was a stupid tournament and the guy hit like an eight iron in and hold it. It was sweet, but like, come on. I also think what you said, like, if you were the guy that had 10 albatrosses, like when you

walked onto a golf course, people would be, that's the guy with 10 albatrosses. Like 10? Yeah, yeah. You'd be like news articles on you. Right. Like, this guy's just money from 250. You played those 10 holes at 30 under parm. Yeah.

And if any, it's like any cart girl here's like, you know this guy right here, he's got a 10 double eagles. She's just like immediately going to like roast them right on the fairway. Like, get over. Roast them. They just do a little fucking roasting going on. And then it, of course, dive holes in the fucking wit saying, And I was like they don't give out free cars for double eagles.

He goes, I don't need any free cars. Jesus, Riggs, Google me. And then people are sending me screenshots that Witt's made like $24 million in his fucking NHL career. That's a good comeback by Witt. He's made money. I mean, some would say he stole it.

Thanks, thank you, I appreciate that. You're welcome. Shit, they gave it right to me. Now, if you want to talk about tweets... If you want to talk about tweets, I noticed you took a little bit to respond to mine and some may say, or you may say, or you may say, I cross this line that you have now drawn in our Twitter.

I cross the line in the Twitter sand with Ryan Whitney in our... First of all, you and your minions on Twitter, you have like 400,000 more Twitter follows me. Every response, I've said this a million times, Whitney gets no more action on any tweet other than more than the tweets to me. When he buries you. He buries me. Yeah. And then people go bananas.

You brought up a touchy subject. I know I did. I went for the jug. Yeah, I'll get out and forth. front of it. We were in my member member at my club. It's a two day four ball. No, no neck, no fucking strokes for pigeons like

you, Frank. You're 20 handicapped. Just gross, just a two days gross best ball with your partner. We were three under after day one. We were one shot up. The next round, we're playing with the people one behind. We get to the 13th T. We have a four-shot lead. We made a triple boge.

I hit one out of bounds. We made a triple boge. We lost on a birdie on 18. And you brought it up. It's the worst moment of my summer easily. I'm not getting my name on the ward in the grill room as Bowen Cup champ. And you brought it up on Twitter. We always joke about stuff and you went

to the heart. And so now that's time I'm going to go to the heart because I've never gone below the belt with you. Oh, well, I mean, when I talk to you never went below the belt with me. Frankie has red. You've called me every household appliance in the fucking kitchen. Everything under the sink. Everything under the sink is Frankie Brow. You said I was going to, you were going to stick me in a pizza oven.

when I said Wayne Gretzky couldn't play in the NHL today. You told me, you didn't cross the line. Listen, you had a horrible showing. I asked you a question. For those at home that haven't seen the tweet, I'll just bring it back up. You told me that, let's see, you made that original tweet where you said that albatrosses are more, you know, impressive than the one, hole in one. And I said, you should come on the pot and discuss, bitch, which you did. So that's a point for me.

Number two, you said, Frankie, you peasant. See, there's another one. He's always throwing names at me. Frankie, you peasant, you're 70 yards from the green. The cart girl parked behind the hole is in Death Valley with you skull fucking a wedge at 95 miles an hour at the Snickers tray. Now that's very funny tweet. Yes. So I had to go at the joke.

That's a pretty. That's an attack. That's an attack. I was attacked. I was in the trenches. I'm reloading my gun. I'm seeing the fucking bullets. You called me a bitch.

You scurred. You said bitch. If you wrote that tweet, come on the pot to discuss. But the bitch at the end, I'm like, yeah, motherfucker. I was sitting there. And I hadn't seen your tweet in a while. He wrote back to me. I haven't even seen this motherfucker, and I'm like,

started typing away in this, like, cabin room we're staying at Sleepy Hollow. It was, like, an angry 20 minutes of me on Twitter. Oh, I love it. So my response to that was, what's worse, Witt, my wedge game or your ability to close at the Bowen Cup losing on 18, from what I've heard, it was a disaster. And I know that not many people on Twitter knew what I was talking about. I got reports from Wally.

People were reporting. They were like, I just saw Witt lose on 18, like a 20-foot birdie, and it was the coldest handshake I've ever seen. I just knew Witt saw that tweet and he goes, this fucking motherfucker. You have four-shot leave, the six to go. It was an amazing birdie. The kid buried a hard hole 18th at Wallisand. It was impressive, but yeah, I was crushed.

I was a cold handshake. I said great job. I was a sport. I was just really upset. I'm a competitor. What do you want me to say? No name on the wood. Great round.

Good job. I had fun with you out there. No name Bertie, leave me alone Think about where your name Could be in the wood It's in the wood In a different tournament

But this is where I really want it And it's not there now It's so You cut me deep I hope me deep I mean the fact you even knew Like obviously Rick says His little mute minions

Giving him fucking updates But like then you know I'm like Frankie Ferrelli writing the Bowen Cup In a sentence Like that should never ever make Yeah Frankie text me

He goes, what's the name of that tournament where Whitney got his heart fucking ripped out? That's what he texted me. I said, I said, Riggs. I said, Whitney's exposed right now. I think I'm, I've been sitting on that. I mean, when did that happen? That happened a while ago, right? A couple weeks.

Several weeks ago. Yeah, I've been sitting on that for a long time. That's not that, yeah, it's two weeks they go on. That's a lot. The blog world. For your worst moment of your summer, for me to sit on that for two weeks, wait until we got you right here. Just to wait until you're exposed.

You made a bad. statement on Twitter, people are coming at you, and then I just fucking hammer you with that loss on 18 when you had a four-stroke lead for the name to get on the wood. I love that when Frankie sends a tweet at Witt, he has to really think about it because he knows the rest of his night

will be just fending off Witt's minions on Twitter. I don't have minions. I just have people that just know that I'm smart and usually right, Frankie's stupid. I mean, what am I going to say, dude? You got me good. I got to go. You guys have rattled me.

I really good. Yes. Hey, Whit, last thing, last thing you mupp, Tiger, is he back? Um, that was unbelievable. I'm not saying he's back till he wins,

but that was the funnest Sunday I've had watching golf for so long. I just think, like, the Masters and the British is his chance, because granted he was in it without hitting the fairways, but he's going to have to, I mean, and I think U.S. Open and PGA, I don't know if he'll ever hit enough fairways,

but next year he could go after Augusta. It's going to be crazy. It's so upsetting. It's 250 days away. But he's not back in my mind until he wins, so no. It was insanely fun. Sunday was fucking awesome. It was so, it's so much more exciting with him in the mix.

Just canning, canning putts, just ripping, like, he was in like the gallery every hole in the front nine, ripping draw nine irons to 10 feet. Cannon putts, fist pumps. It's fucking awesome. God, I'm excited talking about it. Yep. All right, you muppet.

Puts. I'm doing. All right. See you, boy. Your pigeon, you clown. We'll talk to you later.

See you, see you, what. All right, that was our good buddy Ryan Whitney. As a whole. Just got body bagged

for the whole time. Fucking guy. I love when we come back and he's not here and we just say that we won the argument. Yep. What an idiot that guy is.

And we did. Yeah. Oh, we definitely won. If anyone doesn't think that we did, you're just wrong. And I love too

how he's just like, we're in the middle of the channel. He's like, I just, I got to go. He's like, I'm going to play golf right now. He's really got nowhere to go, but except play golf. Right.

He's just like, yeah, I'm like, you guys. 99% of the time we just can't take him anymore that we kick him off. But this time, he's just like, you know what, guys, I don't have the time. I got a lot going on. I got to go. I got to know what you guys want me to do. It's a defeated man. Yeah.

Okay. Next up, Big Cat. So look, we, you know, yesterday, this, so we're recording on Wednesday, yesterday, Tuesday. We got to do it with Big Cat on Twitter. He was out in L.A. We were here in New York. People were kind of chirping being like,

little big cat's the real Tiger fan and all that. So then we started kind of calling him out. He started responding. It got pretty heated on Twitter of us being like, exposed this man. He does not deserve to be, you know, acting like he's this big Tiger fan and enjoying himself and loving the run and the comeback and all that because of his history.

We aired out a bunch of his tweets, a bunch of his blogs. He was kind of fighting back a little bit saying, you know, yeah, I was trolling. Okay, fine. here, there. It was very mucky. It was very confusing. So we decided, let's stop all this hearsay on the Twitter sphere and whatnot. Let's just sit down in the studio. Let's hash it out. Now, this does become, I would say, the single most heated debate we've ever had on the podcast. Well, I would agree with that. And usually we've had Big Cat on the past. And we kind of played

along with his tiger trolling and, you know, Trig Cat every once in a while. But this time, I especially, I really wasn't up for taking his bullshit, and I didn't really want to give him an inch. So it did. I got uncomfortable at some points. Trent was not giving him an inch. Trent almost left after like 30 seconds. Yeah. You almost walked out.

You were not buying into it at all. The two of you got in some heated stuff. Frankie and I, you know, we gave our opinions. Big Cat reads a statement, a prepared statement. We respond to that. We try to get to the bottom of what we're going to do going forward, where we consider Big Cat, what his status is with us. with Tiger. All of that, we cover all of that. It's a pretty intense, it's a very intense exchange.

We got Big Cap. First, we have to say that owning a couch from hell is basically a ride of passage. Frankie just got, he's getting moving to New York City. Yeah, I'm moving in, in the process right now. You're going to have a terrible couch. That's just what's going to happen. I was preparing for that, but what you're about to tell me feels like I'm not going to need to do that. We're basically going to save you, right? Because they've got all these couches. They're like too expensive. They're too expensive. They're too cheap. They're too worn, whatever it is.

And I had a bunch in college. Oh, I've had, I mean, a billion. Just terrible. Just terrible couches. They mark of, like, time. I can remember a couch. Oh, that's when I live there and that. People come in, they'd be like, oh, like, how's that couch?

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Yesterday, I was upset. So was I? I would also like to make a statement that I voted against having you on the podcast. Okay. Thank you, Trent. I appreciate that. Because I think you're full shit. Okay, thank you, Trent.

Appreciate that. And I think you say things just because they're popular and then you switch up what you're going to do. So I voted against having another podcast. I'm happy that you are now saying that to my face instead of just jumping on whatever race is the only reason I agree to have you on is because you're Dan Big Cat and you are very popular on the internet. and you will help with downloads.

Okay, all right. That was a bad tone to start, by the way, just dissing me like that. That's fine. No, I would like to say that this is as upset as I've seen Trent. He's mad. Okay. He's mad. All right.

Yeah, I knew, see, I knew you were mad when you just repeated the same thing. I also was mad. Frankie has admitted he's been triggered. Riggs has as well. So let's all just like deep breath. No more triggered. Well, let me say this. Move forward.

We're going to, we're going to, I have a proposal for how we're going to move forward. Triggered. And my, triggered means you care. Yes. Good point. Good point. That was my biggest thing was you kept saying you're upset and I was like, that's a natural human reaction to someone being full shit like you are. When I say you're upset, that means I'm also upset.

Right, I know that. That's it. Exactly. But I was upset because you're a liar and full shit. Well, okay, I was upset because you're very handsome and you lost a lot of weight and I struggle with my weight. See, this is the stuff he does. No, I'm not. No, I'm not.

Here comes. No, no, no, no. That was a nice thing to say. I don't want nice. He doesn't know. All right. All right. nice thing about Tray.

What do you want to do? I have two things I'd like to say before I released my statement. There was a nice thing. Number one. I can't even keep a straight face. No, I can't. That's how serious is. I would like it just on the record that I am, uh, I just came off a red eye flight, took

an Ambien. As Tiger guys, we know what can happen. So I'm, I'm going to walk out of here. I'm a little loop. I'm going to walk the fuck out of here. I'm a little loopy, but I'm, I'm here. Number two. Don't.

All right. I won't do number two because I actually do think Trent's going to walk out of it. I fucking will. This is what sucks about that. Let me guess. Let me guess. I sat in a bed seat in the planet on my back. Oh, no, no, no.

Oh, I troll my own brain, which actually just means. I don't know. I switched what I was saying because I don't want to be popular. I don't have my tape on my neck. Okay. You just want people to like you. No, that's not. All right, first of all, you're just now repeating other people what other people say.

That's not at all what I'm here for. Okay. Do you want to maybe take it down a notch from a 10 to like a 9 trip? No, I do not. Okay. All right. I'll address Riggs and. Frankie. So here's how, here's how I see it going forward. Either I can try to stop trolling at the

level that I troll and, um, become a reformed tiger, uh, fan, or I can just keep trolling and we can just stay at odds and everyone angry. Now hear me out. As, as tiger fans, that, don't laugh. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. Don't laugh. You almost laugh. We know How about? We know that there are mistakes We're allowing us to use the word we right now We know that there are mistakes

All right fine But we know that there are mistakes that can be made And that comebacks can happen And everyone slips up now and then Now so I'll tell you the God's honest truth Oh really finally I've said it before Trent I don't know why you're being so competitive

I've told you before that I wish you would just be genuine How do you actually feel You never know how you actually feel I actually have told you but you were too dumb to listen. I told you exactly how I felt six months ago when I said, Tiger was one of my favorite athletes watching him was unbelievable.

I was sick and tired of the seven years where if he just walked, people would be like, he's back, he's back, I love him, he's back. Now that he's actually competing and you see him, and you have a moment like Sunday with the PGA championship, like that is exactly what Tiger was when I was growing up. When it's like you can't take your eyes off this screen. He commands everything. I literally didn't even want to watch anyone else.

I wanted to just watch Tiger. And now he's actually competing and playing, and it's not, he's back because he fucking hit, you know, a 68 in the first, first day in the Bahamas classic. It actually is like, it's actually something to talk about. Not just, oh, he swung a golf club at his fucking training facility and he didn't break his back. He's back. It's all part of the grind. I know.

It's all part of the grind. So if you. So if I've aired, and I'll hand up, I definitely bashed him. And I definitely was out on the whole, like, the grind of the comeback was, I was done with it. It was like, I can't sit here and have people say this back. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine to say. That's absolutely fine to say.

Okay, so a couple things I would like to say. One, going back through all your stuff, which we were doing, which means you're triggered. If you're going back and looking through people's stuff, that means your trigger. Yes. I do think there's, and there's a couple things, I do think that mostly you, there was not necessarily evidence that you hated Tiger. there was evidence that you hated Tiger fans. Always said that. I've always said that.

But the second part of that then is that, and why we were trying to draw the line, was that if you're going to mock and relentlessly make fun of all the Tiger fans that were in the trenches, deal with the dark times, you don't get to then be on the bandwagon. Fair point. Now, and that's what I was mad at. Not necessarily saying that I think you've always hated Tiger, but that you don't get to be part of the crew now that we're having fun.

Fair point. I don't want you to have fun when Tiger's playing well, because you don't deserve it. that was beautiful fans Tiger fans like Frankie when you said you were ugly crying

that was like the most ridiculous tweet I've ever read in my life but it's true you don't get it like so how much action did you get on that tweet that actually sums it up perfectly Frankie that tweet went crazy

that actually sums it up perfectly I want Tiger to win so bad but when I see shit like that I'm like come on man well no when he was when Tiger Woods was walking ambient induced across the fucking highway.

We were all ugly crying then, too. It's a grind. It's a roller coaster. When we see him walking up the fairway on the 16th hole with a chance to win a major after all these years, we're crying. We're like, he's back. You are like, oh, yeah.

I remember this guy from 10 years ago, but I haven't heard about him in the last 10 years. I've obviously followed every day of the story. I mean, he's one of the most fascinating guys out there. You took yourself away from the story. Yeah, I did. And you put yourself on the other side. I've been very consistent with what my biggest, like, bone to pick with the whole thing has been,

is the Tiger fans saying he's back prematurely for the last... It's like basically the guy who predicts something to happen every single year. And he's like, this is going to happen. The country can win this year. The country can win this year. You're wrong. 100 fucking plus years. And then you were right once.

Tiger's back. Tiger's back. Yeah, now he's back. But for the last seven years, people were saying he's back. And he wasn't back. But we believed that because of the body of evidence from 19... 97 to 2007 to 2008-2009 was like this we believed that was still in there the whole time and we genuinely believed every single comeback and i genuinely believed he wasn't and i was obviously wrong that i never thought he would be back to this level that's a hand-up definitely didn't think he'd be back to this level where i do think he's going to win a major next year so do you actually believe yes i do i actually am probably going to bet on see i believe that you believe that i'm actually probably going to bet i saw lines like plus 375 why are we allowing him to change just because he can believe that he can believe that he's probably going to be he can believe that he's that this is a miraculous thing that nobody predicted, including him.

But what we're trying to separate is that I don't want him to be able to like enjoy it and say we. That's where we get. Okay, yeah, because I'm right now. You says like Tiger Woods will never win again. That's the thing about the fans. No, I think I said under one and a half because that's the bet I made with my friend 10 years ago. I have a bet. I do, I've always studied win one more.

I don't think he's going. I would say right now sitting here. You said I'm taking under 0.5. Did I? Okay, well, I made the bet under 1.5. Huge shout out to Barstool, Nate, who sent me all of this. Oh, he's such a fucking rat. I could hear the typing when we said that you were coming on,

and all of a sudden, Riggs just had, like, 17 emails. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. But shout out to Nate. You wrote if I had to place a substantial bet on Tiger Woods career majors from this point forward, I think I'm taking under 0.5. As crazy as that seems, I just.

don't think he will ever be the exact same guy he once was, which I don't think that's hateful. That's not hateful at all. Read that. That actually, Nate actually just fucked himself with that tweet. That was actually like, that tweet summed up everything. Because it was it hateful? It wasn't. It was saying, I just don't

think he'll ever get back there because that was when he was barely able to walk. And I agree. And I understand that. I followed along, Frank. I've been there. I've seen it. I've been I've actually been the most, I've been the most fucking real person. See, he's laughing. No, no. You haven't been real. I am, because you've admitted that you've trolled.

That's not real. Yes, I have trolled. I have trolled. When you text us on Sundays? Troll. For sure, troll. I throw my phone a number. I forgot about the text.

Those are me. 100% of troll. I just want to be malicious. Those are. That one person answers you. All right. Should I read the statement? Go ahead.

It is funny when you text all three of us and none of us respond. Except for Trent just says, how do I mute this? I blocked his number. And it will stay that way. That's ridiculous. That's fucking ridiculous. Okay. Good morning.

And thank you for joining me. Many of you in the room are my friends. Many of you in this room know me. This is the Tiger statement. Many of you have cheered for me or worked with me or supported me. And now every one of you has good reason to be critical of me. This is from 2010. No, it's not.

I want to say to each of you simply and directly, I'm deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior I engaged in. Troll cat. I know people want to find out how I can be so selfish. and so foolish, people want to know how I could have done these things to my wife, Ellen, Ellen, and my children. You don't have a wife. And while I was always tried to be a private person, there are some things I want to say. Alin and I have started the process of discussing the damage caused by my behavior.

This is such a good bit. As she pointed out to me, my real apology to her will not come in the form of words. It will come from my behavior over time. We have noticed that line, Frankie. We have a lot to discuss, however, what we say to each other will remain between the two of us. I'm also aware of the pain my behavior has caused for those of you in this room. Hold on, Trent. I have one more paragraph.

I'm not going to read the whole thing. There's a point here, Trent. Trent, my pocket. I have let you down. I'm looking at your eyes. I have let down my fan. Stop. There's a point here.

Yeah, Riggs already said that like five minutes ago, Trin. L.O.L. This is great. To those of you who work for me, you wouldn't have known this was Tiger's statement if Riggs hadn't told you. This is LOL. To those of you who work for me, I have let you down personally and professionally. My behavior was caused considerable worry to my business partners. All right, I'm going to, this, the point is, if you guys can forgive Tiger for doing some really fucked up shit, like Tiger was a bad guy, and he probably might still be. If you read the book, did you read the book?

You all read the book? The book is. The book is called Tiger Woods. Yeah, a lot of people get tripped up by that. Very good. They always say, what's the name of that book that you guys always talk about about Tiger Woods? The name is just called Tiger Woods. It's a who's on for a situation.

First book I've read since the big shorts. Probably already. Probably audio booked it. What? You probably audio booked it. I'll be honest. I audio booked it. Oh, really?

Oh, really? You know what I'm saying? And you like to be hands free. Is that the one where it was Jordan Spath? Jordan Spath. He said Jordan Spath? Yeah, he goes Jordan Spath. It's a saw.

Did Armand do it? No. No, it's this other guy. I would have never done that. It's a guy that just goes Jordan Spat. And he also, he says VJ Singh instead of VJCCC. Oh, man. It's good.

with you guys. I take that laugh back. Okay, so my point of reading that is Tiger made many mistakes. He tripped up in the most colossal way. And like we said, with the book, he was a very bad person. It might still be a bad person. Might still be a bad guy. But you've forgiven him, have you not?

I am here in front of you saying the same thing to this day that I want to rebuild my foundation, the Earl Woods Foundation, and I also want to rebuild the trust of you guys. Here's what I want. I'll make you a deal. Okay. If you prove that you bet a meaningful amount of money on Tiger Woods to win a major championship next year so that I know. Get me back in? Because I know that you cannot.

No. You are very emotional. You're like Dave. Yes, very emotional about my gamble. If you prove that you bet on Tiger Woods to win a major next year. I won't also do, I'm going to say right now I'm going to throw another one in there. I'm not going to do the score thing. I know that bothered you guys a lot.

No, I didn't mind that. Really? I thought that was fun. I know it bothered you. What score thing? You saw it, Trent. I actually didn't. Yes, when I updated the tiger's score throughout the tournament in my Twitter handle.

Funny's funny. I thought that was funny. No, I have you muted. You had me so triggered there that I was about to chirp you when you, like, didn't update it right after he would make a putt. Yeah. That's how, I was walking to your account and refreshing to see if it. I was pretty good. It was.

I was triggered when it said minus 13 and he was minus 12. Well, no, because he was about to fucking hit that birdie putt. I know. So I was one ahead of it. What if we all go in on one bet that tiger's going to, What if I fund a bet for us? How about that? And if he wins, we all.

How about that, boys? How about how about I put down a bet for us as a group and we have the ticket? And I'll never be fully in. I understand that. You're going to have your past. I'll be totally fine with admitting that I have trolled. I have doubted. I thought Tiger would never be back at this point.

Those things are all facts. I'm not going to run from that. Now we have that on the record. No, it's on record on tweets. That's why, like, I don't, I'm not going to go delete tweets. Like, I was, I was wrong. I thought Tiger was done. I thought he never, ever was going to be back.

Now that he is, it's, it's like my youth is back, and I love watching him. So if I put in a substantial wager, how about, like, when is the first? I have some time. So, I'll see, it was like 250 days. I'll put down $2,000 for the four of us on Tiger to win a major. Next year. Next year. Deal.

I got to find those odds. It's probably in Vegas. I can probably bet it. We'll find out the details. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll find it. Maybe we'll go to New Jersey. I don't know.

We'll figure it out. That's a deal on my part, too. We'll split a thousand and you take. No, you know. I'm saying, I'm saying everyone gets a quarter. But I'm just, the reason I want that is because I want you to be very invested. No, I don't care more about you being invested than I do about my own financial state. I'm putting $2,000 in.

You don't have to put in a dollar. You guys each get a quarter. What I'm saying is for my emotional state and our relationship going forward. We need it. I want to know that you care. Now, can I just talk to you three first? Yeah, please. Big Cat, don't listen.

Earmuffs? Now, we know this person we're speaking to. We know his games and we know how he can manipulate sometimes. This is our only one. Now, when he puts this wager down, we are now linking ourselves to a guy that he's the only one that fed on Tiger to win a major. I want nothing to do with the back. And do we care enough to put our own money in and like, is he the ones? I will not say that.

I'll say that. I don't want anything to do it at all. I'll be on the record. Riggs, you heard it here first. I'll be on the right. I don't understand how we're already following this when this is exactly what's going to happen. He's going to be like, I'm one of the guys because we have money on together. I want nothing to do with the bet.

I don't want any of the money. I don't want to touch any part of it. He may not just say that he's one of the guys. He may say he is the guy. Right. I actually wasn't even thinking about it until you said it. You will be like, it's my money. No.

This podcast will age and people will be like, oh. You can write down a list of things I won't say and I'll sign my name to it. I don't want anything to do it. I'll sign my name to it. I do. I want to go in on it. it and I, but I want to put my own money in so that we're in. Okay, fine.

Because we're not, Frankie, you sniff that out. Good job, Frankie. I mean, it was right there. You're a professional, Frank. Thanks. But we're in on the bet, but I want, like I said, it's a, the original basis for this is that if you're betting on Tiger, I know that budding. I'm emotionally.

Betting Trump's trolling. Yes. And you will actually want him to win. There's no me at the end of like, on a Sunday, if Tiger loses by one being like, ha-ha, that was sneaky awesome. Right. If I have a good amount of money, I actually... Because you could have lost, like, 10 grand.

Correct. So I also am willing to do... I am willing to have, like, a trial period with you guys. I'm willing to try to reform my ways, change my trolling actions. Tiger. So maybe that's... This is a perfect time. We have until the Ryder Cup...

Tiger's going to play like four or five times in the next two months. Perfect. This could be a trial period. How about that, Trent? How about a trial period? No. But we need to bet, though. We need to bet quick.

Yes. But also his odds, once he wins one of these next tournament, his odds are going to go down. Right. That's true. A trial period of no trolling. Where I do my, where I work on genuinely rooting for Tiger and not trolling. Wouldn't it be great if you could just not have to troll and be genuine all the time without any money?

I don't know why you say that. I am genuine like a good amount of time. Okay. So I don't know. I want nothing to do with it. You're still very upset. And I don't really like, it's kind of weird now. We interrupt this exchange with our friend Big.

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I want to dump them in a minipool. That would be pretty fucking awesome. Can we do that? Yeah. That's if you make it through the trial. Yeah, I got to go through the trial. I want to go through the trial myself. Because here's the thing, Frankie.

In a red shirt. Frankie, here's the body armor. Shout out to body armor. Yeah, we have. Pool of body armor in red and black. I don't even know if I can go without trolling. So I need to figure this out for myself. This is...

You find yourself in these next couple weeks. I'm like, I'm going to go to, like, trolling therapy. It's like going to go to sex can't. It's like finding your... I'm like finding a religion again, and then you're going to be baptized in a year. I am 2010 Tiger. I'm going to go through all of the trials and tribulations that he went through. I will do that.

So then I think after the end of the trial period, we will revisit. Uh-huh. And we'll determine our status. Yes. With your situation. And Trent will just never like me again. Like he actually like hates me as a human being, which just seems a little ridiculous. There's a lot of.

I could feel the hate coming off of you. But yeah, it's like, it's a little. We just have to talk to Trent after this. This whole thing we just worked it back into the fold. That's what ended up here. Why do you actually like hate me? Like that seems aggressive. Because I think it's just going to continue.

No matter what we do here. I think it's going to always be the same. But I think we may be one step ahead on this one because we kind of sniffed out. I saw it. Even still trekked. That was big that you still set out. I missed it. That would have been a devastating slide down for us.

But I, listen, I'm, I'm, just give me a trial. I'm not saying I'm back. All right. At the end of the FedEx Cup. At the end of the. I just want a trial. But I think it needs to be pre-Rider Cup because, yeah, it'll be pre-Rider Cup. Yeah, pre-Rider Cup.

I'll let you guys know. Tiger and the Riter Cup, we need the, we need the lower Big Cat's days. Yes, yes, that's going to be a big one. I'm just going to. Can you do it? I'm just thinking about it right now. It's going to be really hard. Because even in your apology statement, you trolled us.

Are you going to make an announcement on your Twitter since you have all these followers that are waiting for you to troll us every single Sunday? No, when we post this episode, people will keep me honest. People will keep me honest. I want everyone, all four-play listeners. He's got an army out there. He's got an army. Oh, yeah.

Trial period starts next week. It goes through the tour championship, which is right before the Riding Cup. We are in New York and New Jersey. There's Tiger playing. Northern Trust. I'm not back in yet. The Northern Trust is the beginning of the FedEx Cup playoffs. And then Boston.

And then there's the BMW, which I think is in Philly. And then there's the Tour Championship, which is in East Lake and Atlanta. So we've got a lot coming up, Big Cat. It's going to be good. Did you stop hitting driver? The jury is still out. You're right. We need to fix our driver.

We need to fix our driver. Listen. Why does this is a real golf question? Why does the caddy not, why doesn't he just like throw the driver in the woods and be like, Tiger, you don't get to hit driver anymore. But here's the thing is that he. He is so good in every other aspect of his game that even if he hits a wayward drive, he can still just make par and move on to the next hole, where if he does hit the fairway,

he can make birdie. And he did that on 18, and now he's going to be like, wow, I really have commanded my driver. Classic golf shot, like the last shot, last hole of the game. Oh, this is why I play the game. Yeah, it would be like, oh, man, this was easy. Now, I got to come back. Got it. I know what to do now.

Right, exactly. He's back. Okay. Big Cat jury is still out. Thank you for taking the time. Trial period. Trial period. Appreciate it.

Trent, we'll talk after because it's weird that you actually hate me over this. I take fantastic. No one sports podcast. Check out Foreplay. Thank you. Listen to Foreplay. They're already listening. Subscribe it. You don't know that.

They should subscribe. They could just walk by a car that has it on. This could also be a promo clip on Twitter. Yeah, that's true. Really go listen to the show. Check it out. The promo clip will just be a promo of your own podcast. Just saying listen to Foreplay.

Correct. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's cool. It's not a bad idea. All right. Thank you, Big Cap. See you. Do I have to leave now?

Yeah. Are you guys going to, talk about me when I leave? No, we're going to come out with you. Oh, okay. All right, let's all leave together. Okay. Thank you, Big Cut.