Fore Play - Hardy, and The Realization Of Forever Losing Your Former Self

Episode Date: March 25, 2021

Songwriting stud and country music star Hardy (39:06) joins the show. Hardy dives into the idea of becoming famous and realizing your former self is gone forever (perhaps a parallel to Rory McIlroy admitting chasing distance has hurt his golf swing?). We also talk the Fore Man Scramble vs country stars match, Hardy’s recent ace, the art of songwriting, and implementing rock into country songs. Before Hardy joins, the crew delves into superstitions and the idea of unluckiness (opening an umbrella inside, walking under a ladder) affecting both golf and real life!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We are recording sort of in the middle of the day, so we're not going to have a ton of takes and reactions from what happens in the matches. Our schedules are crazy right now. We're trying to get all over the country. The Barstville Classic's about to start. But golf has begun this week, which is very cool. It comes up real fast all of a sudden when it happens on a Wednesday.

But we got some stuff to talk about. Roy McQuarrie was already in the backyard in a park. Who he's hitting that all over the planet right after the day after they announced. He's got a new swing coach. So there's a lot to get to on that front. We have a good show. We got Hardy. Country star singer, songwriter.

He was part of the country stars team that was unfortunately for them defeated by the four-man scramble in Nashville last summer. He had an ace very recently. He loves golf. He's got some serious jams. One of his songs has 90 million streams just on Spotify alone. And he's a really, really good dude. he's obsessed with golf. So we got Hardy, again, country star, country singer, songwriters, written songs for a bunch of big time musicians. So we got him coming up in a little bit.

Gentlemen, we're without Lurch right now. He's flinging drones, you know, trying to pay the bills. So Godspeed to Lurch, but we got Trent and Frankie and myself. We got e-bugs more on the one and twos today. Jake's editing some videos. And we have Jake Bass is behind the scenes. Like I said, any video is doing his thing. But gentlemen, you guys are in studio. I'm still in Scottsdale. I hope our audio is not too crazy, but we did a new technological advancement attempt here, so hopefully it works out better. Well, we've been sitting in this room bullshit for 25 minutes before we started recording, and then as soon as we started to record, the vents started going crazy.

I don't know if you can hear it rigs, but it's once again, it sounds like there's a person inside the vent trying to get out that is equipped with a baseball bat. So hopefully people can't hear that, but it started as soon as we started recording, which is really just that is the bar still difference. But hopefully, if we did the clap correctly, the beginning of this episode, the audio is much better than it has been in the past. And if it

didn't work, then you guys are hearing the same thing you've been hearing for the last 18 months. Credit to us to wait until basically the end of the pandemic to figure out that we should have better audio on our podcast. I mean, we could have been recording locally the entire time. There was nothing stopping us from hitting record on our laptops. And everything that we say goes right into the laptop, not through the internet. And it gets broken up. Sounds like you're talking through some sort of fax machine in office space. So PC load letter. I will say that there was one time where I think Jake Bass really tried to push us

because he heard about this new technique where you record locally. And the big deterrent from us doing it was that we couldn't sync up a clap to get the audio right. And we just abandoned it and have never done it ever since. That was like a year ago. I can't hear the events and the little... I don't know that anyone can, to be honest. I got to tweet that like every time.

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You guys have played Cyprus. I mean, we're talking deep. You, I will say you seem legitimately nervous as you look at me right now. they said like you dropped the D word on the podcast last week that's preposterous I think you're all right I will say my ears kind of perked up when you said it I was like I don't I don't know if he's supposed to be said I don't know that no especially like yeah no I don't know I'm definitely drawing more attention to it right now so I'll just stop yeah I will say

that it reminded me not reminded me but there was a there's a um golf you know Instagram influencer Katie Carney on if you guys follow her but she's big. She's everywhere. She's got a ton of followers. And she put up a bunch of photos and videos on her Instagram from playing Augusta, like several months ago. It might have been midwinter or something like that.

And I was like, oh, wow, I didn't know you could really post footage. And then like 12 hours later, it was all gone. She just wiped off, wiped off the internet. So we, you know, if we have to go wipe that podcast, Frankie, just let us know, and drop the D word. But I hope you're feeling a little better about it. Anyways, Owens is great. they just have revolutionized the mixer game, the cocktail game,

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And we love Owens. I drink that. I drink that shit all time. And it's really, really good. Okay. Let's start with umbrellas really quickly. This is a conversation we're having for the show. You know, I'm just curious what the folks think out there. I know a lot of these debates get people going. Open an umbrella indoors is extremely unlucky, right? That's just considered extremely unlucky. Correct. Yeah. So, you know, our merch game, you go to start out barstoresports.com, our merch game is big. We like to provide stuff that people can rock that they can support us. They

can wear on in the golf courses, wherever. Well, we're trying to get into the umbrella game. So our merch team sent me a pack of five umbrellas, came to our Vegas hotel. It's like a week or two ago whenever we were there. And I opened this thing up and like, hey, you just sample and check out those umbrellas, see which ones you like, which ones you don't, how the logo looks on the umbrella or whatever. And I said to Trent, I was like, well, what would you do? Because you have to, you have to spread and like fully open the umbrella in order to get the feel. You got to spin it around a little bit. You got to put it over you and pretend like you're walking down the fair.

Like, what's going on with this umbrella? Am I supposed to go down in the elevator seven flights, seven, seven stories, walk outside and open up this giant cardboard box and then just start opening up umbrellas outside? Like, is that what I had to do? Damn. I need to what? Yeah, go ahead. Well, I need to make a decision on how. I feel about this because I just recently turned 32.

And if my answer to this question is like, no, I can't open umbrellas inside because I'm afraid that it's going to be bad luck. Like, is that just the kind of person I am for the rest of my life then? It has to be. And I don't know if I want to be that person. It seems silly because you just say like, hey, if you open an umbrella inside, that gives you bad luck. Like, that's crazy.

But then, but I also sort of believe it. I want to say that if you open an umbrella inside, you then put bad luck on yourself. do we know what happened like did somebody open an umbrella inside and then they just got like a random spear through the art back in the day like what on where umbrella opening umbrellas inside is bad luck there's got to be some some fables perhaps horrific outcomes yeah so um i don't know if you knew this but the egyptian civilization um the sun is represented as a god and umbrellas were used by the nobility wow by the nobility and the religious is that the word the nobility and the religious leaders to protect themselves from the intense rays of the sun and the rain. Opening an umbrella in the shade or opening it indoors was seen as an insult to the sun god. Hence, probably, therefore, you would get bad luck by disrupting the gods and disrupting their rays upon your, you know what I mean? Like you, like you, yeah. Dude, I already have a thing with the sun.

So now I just pissed off the sun god. It's insulting to the sun god. Five X I pissed off. just seemed to how many umbrellas I was opening inside it was a I don't want I don't want to piss off the sun god that's of that one of all the gods that one seems pretty fucking real the sun is the most powerful thing that we know I think I mean right like if there is like if you say you don't believe in God or whatever that it is what it is and teach their own but it's like the sun that's the most legitimate figure that could be God because it supplies everything

that we have at some point the sun the sun is literally going to swallow up up everything that we know and it's just going to swallow everything up and and eliminate all of this forever. So pissing off the sun is not. You know what I mean? You know, like the sun, it's the reason things are alive. Like it's the one thing that if it goes away, we are in real trouble. So what do you think?

Sometimes you look like you haven't seen the sun in a long time. So who did they say that to? You, me. I got tan this summer. Yeah, sometimes. What do you think about? Last summer. You did last summer.

Do you think about, we've been in quarantine. So I haven't seen the sun. The sun came out of 60 degrees on six, like a couple days ago and it was like, holy shit. I got a sunburn that day. Yeah. I mean,

when we were in Vegas, it wasn't that hot and I got sunburn on my hands. Do you believe the umbrella, indoor, outdoor thing? I've been back and forth on like all that shit, you know. It seems silly. It is silly, but then in the, there's a small part of my brain that's like. What's the word I'm looking for? What if? when you're super superstitious.

Yeah. You're a little stitious, as Michael Scott would say. Yeah, a little bit. You know, there's times where I'll watch an Islander game or you'll be watching Tiger Woods play and you want them to do well and you're thinking about something that you do usually. Like, you know, should I go to the bathroom? I'm watching the game.

Should I turn the channel? It's like sometimes I just think to myself, what the fuck am I doing? But then the bad thing happens in the game and you do think that you're the reason why that happened. Right. And there was a beer campaign a couple years ago. I forget which one.

it's only weird if it doesn't work. 100%. Right. You know, Corey Perry and Ryan Getslav do like a thing where Corey Perry touches every single part of Getslav's back and touches all the parts of the door as he walks out. Now, now if he doesn't do that the next game and he fucking tears his ACL, he's going to be like, well, why didn't I just touch the fucking doors? That's been working my entire career.

Right. Right. But you also could, it's like, well, they don't win every game that they do that. So it's like, what do they? I know. Where's where how do you you could you could say it falls on either end of it. I got one I don't step on handicapped signs the little painted handicap signs on the ground. Yeah. I don't I don't step on them.

And the only reason I don't is because my brother several years like 15 years ago I was about to step on one. He like shoved me across the parking lot and was like, what are you doing? And I was like, what? And he's like, you can't step out a handicap sign. It's horrific luck. And now I do the same thing to everybody else. I don't know the backstory, but I don't step on a handicap. Because because I feel like overall I've tapped on handicapped signs before.

I never heard of that. Overall, I will, I, it's, I think it's the original point, the ACL point that was just made of I'm not saying that every day goes perfectly that I haven't been stepping on handicapped signs. But the one time I do, I'm then going to be like I'm in final destination the rest of the day and I don't want that. Right. You know what's a weird one for me that I've been doing for potentially 20 to 25 years is I always put my left shoe on first. That's fucking weird. Always. And it's not because I, well, must not weird.

I just don't know that I would ever notice it. I always put my left shoe on first. Left shoe. And you're righty? I am, yeah. So. And it's the same thing that Riggs just said where there, and there maybe have been instances where I woke up and I was super tired and I had to go run down and get something or whatever.

And I put on my right shoe first, but I don't remember those. But I feel like every time I notice it, I put my left shoe on. Maybe it's not a perfect day, but it's a day where a piano didn't fall on my head. I was walking down the street in New York. So I always put the left shoe on first. I legitimately think, and I wish, this is the one thing, I wish I got these statistics. Like when you die, people talk about this. Like they want the statistics of their life.

I would love to know how long I've been putting my left shoe on first every day. It's been a lot. So you guys remember when I, remember when I dislocated my kneecap playing hockey and I was on a cane for a couple weeks in the office? Yes. That was the first time that I can remember that I tied and put my left. skate on before I played and not my right. And the only reason I did, I was like 10 minutes late for the game.

And I just, my left skate was the first one I could find in my hockey bag. Frankie knows now. Like, your hockey bag is a mess. There's all kinds of shit in there. There's tape. There's random fucking jerseys and socks. And I could only find, so I threw that on. And I remember in the moment thinking, is it, is it crazy if I take off my left skate

and be a couple minutes late because I don't feel great about it. And like an hour later in the second period, I just got tripped up into the boards and dislocated my kneecap and I was on a cane for two weeks. So maybe I'm pretty rattles right now that I open those fucking umbrellas and door. I'm trying to think if I do anything. And the first thing that came to me is I probably put my right contact in before my left every time. But I don't know if that's like a superstitious thing. I think it's just it feels right. Like my right eye is more like dominant for some reason.

so like putting in the left contact would feel weird. Yeah, but it's not based on any sort of. No, I would never. Superstition. I don't know that I would ever reach for the left contact first just because of how it feels. Like I don't like having plastic in my left eye and not my right eye first. I know there are times when I will wake up in the morning and I'm getting ready. I've got everything on and the shoes, the last thing I got to put on.

I'll pick up the right shoe first and I will put the shoe down and I will grab the left and put the left shoe on. No, that wouldn't happen to me. No. That would never happen to me. That's the only thing I can think of for me, though. This may be the most level-headed I've ever been about anything that you guys do this stuff and I don't. When we were talking about the umbrella thing before the podcast started, I was thinking that you were going to come out with this long Borelli's history of a guy who opened an umbrella indoors.

I've matured. I've matured. I've grown up, Trent. All right? I used to do the fucking craziest things at these Islander games. I used to get a popcorn in between the first and second period. And I used to get a Carvel with extra Sunday sauce, chocolate sauce in between the second and third. And like the popcorn lady knew me by name.

She had the popcorn ready. I went to the same one, Section 221, in between, you know, the whole thing, in between Gates 14 and 15. And I did that every fucking game. Now you wonder why I have a salt addiction. I mean, I was fucking 12 and 13 years old. I was eating popcorn. I was going to say, you're also a kid that was like, oh, daddy, let me get popcorn. No, no, it wasn't that cute.

It was like I was screaming and crying if I wasn't able to access the popcorn. I wasn't crying, but like I was notably and visibly angry. And then if the islanders gave up a goal, I'd just stare at like. whoever was at the game, be like, can you believe you didn't let me go get the popcorn? Like, this is why we're losing for the last 15 years. Right, and that's kind of what I was saying earlier where I've grown up. Right, I just turned 32. Am I still going to continue to believe that these little things have real effects on my life?

You've done it for so long, Trent, that I think you have to keep doing it. The left shoe thing is not going away. Yeah. The left shoe thing is going nowhere. But like walking under a ladder, open an umbrella indoors, breaking a mirror. Like, are those things that I'm going to continue to believe until I'm obviously. dead? I don't know. It's like being at a fucking roulette table and and and you pick the same numbers your whole life. But 13, 24, 33, 29, 16. You know, you have your numbers. Yeah.

And then you fucking just one day, one, one, one spin of the ball, you pick a different number. And, and then you know for a fact that your number's coming out that you've picked your entire life. Same with like lot, okino, the whole thing. My dad used to say, so back, um, back, um, in the day, a lot of machines in New York, they used to have like a last game. So like now they run 24-7, but they used to have a final game. And we have a machine in our restaurant. We have screens all over the place in the bar. It's like the best.

I love playing Quick-Draw. And you know what Quick-Draw is, right? No. So it's basically roulette. You have a card and you fill it out with a pencil at your table while you're eating a pizza and you bring it in. And it's like $10. And if you hit four out of the four numbers, you win $150, whatever. it is. So, I mean, I think it's more commonly known as Kino. Okay. Yeah. Um, anyway, so like,

there would be these last night, these last draw games and you'd have to pick the same numbers every single night, right? So like, because think about, think about the horror, right? You're closing up the restaurant. My dad puts whatever it is, 50 bucks every night or whatever, or once a week on 16. And he's just like, or whatever the numbers are. And the one night he doesn't do it, all four or five numbers come out it's a $10,000 winner. Yeah. Now, if you do something like that every single night and the one day you don't, you have to, like, I don't know, kill yourself or something.

Something bad has to happen. Right, because Jared Krabas and I were doing that with the lottery for like a year. There you go. Immediate death. Him and I had, we picked specific numbers that were like about us. Like I picked my, you know, my football jersey number 40. And we put all these numbers together that meant something to us and we would do the lottery twice a week and we keep doing it.

And we were just waiting for the day that the one time we forgot to do it, that it landed on our numbers and then we would just kill each other you can't it's cold it's cold it's colby a little bit with tony finow it's like he's in a tough spot he has to bet on tony feno every single week because the first week that he doesn't tony feno's obviously going to win uh speaking of roulette i tweeted about this but i'm gonna i'm gonna since we're talking about i have to bring it back up that when i was in Vegas stayed for a day or two after you guys left and i had a buddy came up to the table i'd been betting i think i was betting red nonstop and i'm betting and i'm betting that in red and he joins the table.

I got a bunch of money on red. He joins the table. Matches my bet but puts it on black. Black hits. And then I just lost every spin after that. And I looked at him and said, well, now, what the fuck are you doing? Like, what are we, what are we doing here? Are you,

are you really here to beat the casino? Is that what? You're going to win money gambling. You're going to, you're going to be the only victorious gambler against Big Vegas in the history of the fucking world. Or are we here? here as buddies to gamble together, to win and lose together, to go nuts when that fucking little ball bounces into our red circle or whatever. Or are we here that you're trying to, oh,

I actually think I calculated that it's going to come up black. No, it isn't. Like, what are we doing here? So I was, I was livid after that. And if you believe in luck again, like, of course I lost every spin after that. We just had horrific juju going on the table and we were done for the rest of the day. Yeah, that's a nightmare scenario. That's, that's, if you're down bad too in a casino, know that's worthy of a fist fight. It really is. Because like you're saying, there is no, there is absolutely no rhyme or reason as to why he chose black. It's just to go against you so that one of you wins and one of you loses. I almost, I almost wish green came out. Me too. I said that. I said that. I said, I wish it fucking hit green. And you felt like the biggest loser for the rest of

your life. Just give me double zeros right now because you just fucked up this whole table. And I'd pick up my chips and I'd leave. Because you can't do it. You're, everyone that's on that side of the table is already a Right? You're playing against the dealer and he's going to win. The odds are he's going to win. So why are we going against each other's throats on this side of the table? They win 10 times fold. That's why Blackjack was so fun. We played just like a little bit on our last night there. Was it fun? Well, it was the idea was fun because the idea of Blackjack is everyone wants to beat the dealer. I fucking got this guy out of his pajamas to come down and play some Blackjack. And I was like, come on, Trent. We're in fucking Las Vegas. You're not going to play one table game? He put on the full core press of peer pressure. I was, I was.

I don't believe he got you out of you. Right. Like for anybody that doesn't know. That's your favorite place in the world. Yeah, anybody that does know on these trips, when we go to these hotels, I love doing what we need to do, getting all the work done, maybe grab dinner with the guys and then I disappear. I, if I didn't get peer pressure every time, I would skip dinner as well. I would just want to, I like these guys. I like them a lot.

But I also love being in a hotel, being in my underwear, potentially just naked. Order, order a chocolate Sunday room service. And I just sit there and I can be the piece of shit that I truly am. Tossing yourself around the room a little bit. Right. I just bang myself off the wall. I just slap myself around. I eat some ice cream and I go to bed. Coding the ceilings.

It's honestly, it's my favorite part of just being able to be a piece of shit. But Frankie got me out of my hotel room. We went to play blackjack. And it was fun because like you're saying, Riggs, it's us versus them. And when someone goes against that code at a casino, you're like, well, now what the fuck are we doing? So we, I mean, it didn't go that well for us that night. But we all lost together. I only said it wasn't fun because, yeah, to my left and to my right, you guys were winning.

And I was in the middle just losing every single hand on the most preposterous losses in blackjack of all time. Lynn Lynn was their name. Yeah. Lynn Lynn was going four, four, two, two, three. And she somehow comes up to 21. I looked at dead in the eyes. I said, why are you doing this to me? At any moment, you could have shown a face card and we all win.

Everyone wins, right? You don't lose anything. We all on this side win. but she just boom, boom. It was like a seven card 21. Yeah. Multiple times. Yeah, and you got the bad end of it for the most part.

Do you guys have any of these? I think we've talked about superstitions on the golf course, but is there anything that you put your shoe on left and you can't put your shoe on right? Is there anything that you cannot do on the golf course that it would throw up your whole entire game? No, I don't think it's superstitious as much as it's just like muscle memory and habit, but I always go ballmarker in my left pocket,

tease and divot fixture in my right pocket. And if I'm, anytime I mix that up, whenever I reach for my ballmarker on the green, I think I've lost it. Like I can't comprehend it somewhere else. But I also keep my phone in my front left pocket. So I want to be able to move my ballmarker to my right pocket,

as stupid as this all sounds, to my right pocket because a lot of times when I whip my phone out, You know, there's that little edge of your phone where the screen in the protector, that ballmark will get stuck in that little edge and you'll just fling it out and the ballmarker's gone. So I would like to keep my ballmarker in my right pocket, but I just can't do it. It feels like I'm a different human that's never been on a golf course before, whenever I do it, so I just can't do it. But I don't think it's superstitious.

I think it's just annoying. It's right on the edge of superstitious. That sounds superstitious. It's not a little stitious Because we've gone over We used to ask this question to golfers that we had on the show Like are you superstitious And they would say no

Just like Riggs did And then they would list 10 to 15 things They're like no But I keep you know I keep you know Three T's in my left pocket One T in my right pocket I only put my left shoe on first

And they would just list an entire thing Of things that are clearly superstitious And I understand what you're saying Like It's good to have a system Because when you walk up to a green And you don't have a system talking to myself right now, I'm just in my pockets.

I'm just in them rifling through. Like, there's a glove, there's a T. And the thing that I need is never going to appear in my hand. So having a system that you have rigs is good. But it also, it borders on superstitious. It's like a guy watching like a game. And he's like, yeah, no, I'm not superstitious. My kids love it in the bathroom when I lock the door during the third period.

They love it in there. They play. My wife loves when I turn the couch cushions over. Exactly. Yeah. No, it's not superstitious. It's just something I like to do. My girlfriend's dad, like, was super, he's a crazy New York sports fan, Rangers, Giants, Yankees.

Basically everything against me except for the Yankees. But there were stories about him, like, they know how crazy he would get, like, during games. Back in the day when he would, like, really, really get mad at games. And they would literally, so they would listen to the game on their way home from, like, work or, like, school or something on the radio. And if it was a close game, they would pull into the driveway and just not go in because of the moment that they opened the door had like the Islanders scored on the Rangers. It's their fault 100%. Now, nothing like bad happens. Yeah.

It's just you don't want that shitty feeling of like, all right, well, dad like clearly thinks that we've now lost the game for the hockey team because he is crazy superstitious like that. It really just shows how crazy humans are. Like we just crave control so much that we think that anything, any small thing that we do is going to have. have an effect on what happens at a stadium that is potentially hundreds to thousands of miles away. Like, I've had that on airplanes where I think things that I do will make the airplane not go down. Like, if I don't move in a certain way, or if I don't open my laptop, or if I don't turn my phone off airplane mode, then this plane is going to go and it's going to land and we're going

to be fine. And if I do anything opposite, then the plane is going to crash. It's all about control, and we just want control of every situation. I find it weird that you guys put stuff in your... your glove hand pocket. I don't love doing it, but my, my new thing is I've, I've occasionally dabbled with putting my phone back there because I, of the situation where it's conflicts with the ballmarker, like I talked about earlier, a very serious issue. But it's weird, man. It's weird kind of having both those things in the same spot. It just doesn't, it doesn't feel

good. One thing about airplanes, I'll say, kind of a dark thing that I do, really dark thing that I do, is when we take off, I always have the window. I always get a window seat or try to as best I can. I always have the window shade up because my thought process is if we go down, I want the last thing that I saw to be outside and the earth, not inside some death tube.

That is a little dark, but I understand the logic behind it. I want to see Earth. I want to go down seeing like green. You're about to see Earth. Sometimes I look at the, the, uh, fucked up,

Trump. Sometimes I look at all the heads ahead of me on a plane, right? You see all the rows of heads. We gave frank an opportunity to get dark and here we go. No, and I literally, I apologize. It's my fault. I literally picture the moment,

like, all the time of like, everything's serene. We're on a plane. We're fucking all, we're there. And then the head's dark going, boom,

boom, boom. And then like the front of the plane just like erupts and we all get sucked out. Like I picture, I look at people. and I'm like, fuck man, that guy, that guy looks like a dude that's gotten sucked out of a plane in like a movie before. I'm like, now this lady looks like she's been on the news. Yeah. Her face, this looks like a fucking crash.

To relate to that, the one thing that I do in that same vein is when I'm looking at my ticket and I look at the flight number, I say that's a flight number that is going to be on the bottom ticker at CNN. That's going to be on the CNN ticker. Yeah, yeah. I think about that. You a flight 672. It's like, that's the one. Rest in peace, man. United 4-8-78.

Like that's going to be on the bottom ticker on CNN. Now, you know, I don't want to be insensitive to the people, you know, because there's been bad things that have happened on planes. And that's a fucking... Of course. We, we legitimately fly through a tube. It's one of the more dangerous things you can possibly do, and we all just act like it's a normal thing. No, and I don't think we're being insensitive to any of that. We're just saying these are real thoughts that I have.

No, no, no. Not insensitive in that aspect. It's more like the gravity of actually getting on a plane and flying through the air should be so much. scarier because of like things that have happened on planes things that happen to planes we all just get on there and we fly over the world and like from new york to california as if it's just as if it's almost like like like an annoyance but i like it we like i think louis c k has actually told this joke where he's like people should be fucking screaming at the top of their lungs yeah on planes they should be like can you believe we're flying through the air right can you

believe we're sitting down in a chair going fucking 400 miles an hour whatever it is at 30 30,000 feet. And we are flying amongst the clouds in a tube with two just regular dudes fly. Like, I mean, they're just, those guys go home and make hamburgers in their hotel room. And they come, they just like fly the plane. Like, I would say, flying is something that could make you shit your pants. And if that happens, I got a great solution for that. Oh, here we go.

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They're going to change the way. There's a lot of guys across the country this last weekend, and I'm sure I'm talking to a couple of them too, where if you just had a March Madness weekend where it's wings, it's burgers, it's fries, it's beer. French onion dip, everything. That's got to come out somewhere. I think I shit my pants before a hockey game the other night. You're having a real issue because when we were playing Spanish.

No, no, no, no. Spyglass. You came up to me after the fourth hole and said, I got something going on right now. I was like, what's up? And you said, I think I just shit my pants. And luckily you had not, but. I think I got like a leaky bumhole right now or something. Things aren't as tight as they used to be for some reason.

I don't know what's going on. Dude wipes can help you. All I know is that, yeah, when we were at SpyGle, I came over to Trent in confidence. And I said, I'm with Todd Martin. Bigmas fucking, you know, he's the leader of the golf industry at Peter Millar. He is, he is a fucking, he's a fucking big swinging dick. And I said, I'm sitting in the car with him right now.

And I think I have poop all over my, all over my bumhole. I said, I don't know how it happened. I don't even remember farting. I just, I just know that when I, when I'm standing here right now talking to you, dude, I think I've soiled all over my fucking. asshole. And I didn't know what to do. I'm like, I was feeling around. It started feeling like it was going down my leg or something. Dude, I don't, I mean, hey, I didn't do it. Nothing was there when I went into the bathroom after the fifth hole. So I don't know what that feeling was. Maybe it's just mental,

but, uh, yeah, dude wipes was good because I was able to go in there, clean it up. I was fresh. Yeah. The hockey game. Well, dude wipes. I think I, I think I did shit my fans, but dude wipes was there. Dubwives.com, use the code golf 15 for 15% off your entire order. You go to doobipes.com. Use the code golf 15 for 15% off. You can also find them at Amazon, Walmart, or Target nationwide. Don't let what happened if Frankie happened to you. You can clean yourself up.

You'd be in good shape. Oh, real quick. Before, I mentioned, I said that it's odd to me that you guys put stuff in your glove hand, but I think you meant, I think you took that as the stuff in your back pocket. I meant in your left pocket, like where your glove is usually, for me, it's my right, Like I would never be able to put like little trinkets and stuff in there because like sticking a glove inside of pant pockets weird, right? And I know that you take your glove off on the on the green and stuff. So most of the stuff is being used on the green.

But like usually you're holding your putter with that. Like I just have everything in my free hand pocket. And I just stick it all in. In an ideal world, I do put my glove in my back left pocket. But like I'm saying, I don't have a system like Riggs does. So sometimes that glove ends up in my front left pocket and think now it's now it's, now. it's chaos. That's when things start to get chaos because normally I like to have it in my back

left pocket. Yeah, I just want to clear that out. Yeah. No, that's fair. That's fair. Rory, Rory's in a house of horrors right now, it seems. And the first kind of meme, funny tweet, whatever, that's come out of the Delmatch play is Rory's balls just in a fucking pool in somebody's backyard, out of bounds, down in Austin.

Swing coach, he hired Pete Cowan, renowned swing coach, to help him out. Rory also said, I'd be lying if I said that my issues didn't have anything to do with what Bryson did at the U.S. Open, not issues necessarily, but trying to make changes. I think a lot of what people saw were like, whoa, if this is the way that they're going to set up golf courses in the future, what Bryson's doing helps. It really helps. The one thing that people don't appreciate is how good Bryson is out of the rough, not only because of how upright he is, but because his short irons are longer than standard. So we can get a little more speed through the rough than us than other guys. Stop being able to get some more speed is a good thing. And maybe I just, to the detriment of a little bit of my swing, I got there, but I just maybe need to rein it in a little bit.

So all of these quotes are clearly, clearly revealing that Bryson and the whole Bryson effect has affected dramatically Roy McElroy and his swing and his approach. And that's probably leading to some of the shitty golf that we've seen for Roar. Yeah. And at the time of recording this, he lost to Ian Poulter Day, 6 and 5. So things are not going well for Rory McElroy. Yeah, I don't know what hole it was today, but he put one in a swimming pool. In someone's backyard, it just bounced off the cart path, went into someone's swimming pool. You know, Rory just needs to put on blinders, I think.

He's got as much talent as you could possibly have as a golfer, it seems. So if he just does his own thing, I think this is what he's alluding to now, where he did get caught up in the Bryson, the distance. race or whatever you want to call it. And if he just goes back to playing like Rory McElroy, it's easier said than done. But I think he needs to stop getting influenced by things that are going on outside of his control and just go back to what he was doing before. Because he's a world-class player, as everyone knows.

So to start chasing things that are outside of what he normally does, probably a bad idea. And like I said, he got trounced by Ian Polter today. So something's got to change. And yeah, Pete Cow when he brought him aboard, so we'll see if that has any, any drastic effects on what Rory does. Yeah, and look, like, Kaumoraka is currently the fourth ranked player in the world.

And it's not like Morikawa's known as absolutely piping the golf ball. He plays his game. He plays within himself, and it works extremely well for him. So, you know, I get that Rory is on a different level and expects himself to be on a different level. So if you see someone doing what Bryson's doing and you see it work, which we've discussed a lot, you know, I get that it could rattle you a little bit, but it's not like Rory's short.

Like Rory's one of the longest drivers, one of the longest hitters on the PGA tour. So in no one ever thought with Rory's game that, man, if he could really pick up a little distance or a little strength out of the rough or these areas that he'd really be able to tighten up, it was wedge play and his short game. And we've laughed a lot on this show about any time they cut to Rory. for a stretch there on the green, no matter how far the pot was, you knew he wasn't going to make. You just, you would, you would look at your buddy. I bet you dinner this misses, you know, and it just would miss all the time.

So it's like what Rory felt like Rory needed to hone in on was like Bouch Harman talked about with DJ, where like DJ just went to work on his short game, on his wedges, on everything inside our yards. And he went from, you know, DJ who was good and really good, but not the best, to, the best player in the world. And so for Rory to focus on distance and hitting it farther, just seems like he's smarter than that. It seems like he's more observant than that, right? He's got like this Zen approach a little bit. He's given interviews about trying to have more of a Zen approach. And he's won four majors and he's Warren Macquarie. He won the players. He's won the FedEx. So for him to then be like, oh, I'm just going to chase distance and let it mess up his swing so much,

to the point he just lost six and five to Ian Pult through. It's just very surprising, I would say. He's also got wing foot stuck in his head. Like, he seems to think that every tournament, every course is going to be like wingfoot. And I understand that the majors, everything's going to be turned up. The rough's going to be harder. Like, it's going to be a long distance. But like he very much, at least from these interviews and these quotes,

he just keeps thinking about wingfoot and how Bryson dominated wingfoot and how he had the wedges in his hand when other players were further back. Like I again, I think the point of this is, and Rory knows, Roy's a smart guy like we're saying. He's just got to play, he's got to play his own game and stop chasing Bryson in this whole distance race because clearly it's not working at all. No, yeah, you don't want this to be like the defining moment of Rory's next chapter of his game. Like, I don't think he should be chasing Bryson Dishambe. To your guy's point, there's really no reason for him to be changing his swing in that aspect of the game. He hits the ball long enough.

not every single golf tournament is going to be wing foot it's not going to be as treacherous where you where you need to get those those short wedges into the greens i mean like wingfoot's a one and a million fucking hard golf course you know and i just i just you know i think rory mackerois is you think he's falling like you think you think being him's like a lot more difficult because he has to comment on all these things that like now he has to comment on like the bryson and like and he had to comment on the distance report and all that stuff like that it's always in his head. It's like constantly in his head and like changing the way that he plays the game. Hardy.

Oh, Hardy. Hardy. What do you think about Roy McHardy? What's going on? What's up, bro? What's up? What's up, bro? How you doing?

Man, I'm good. How are you all? It's good to see y'all. I know. It is good. It's been a while. It's been almost like a year, which is crazy. Yeah, when was that?

When did we do that? It was like the summer? Yeah. What was that? Like June, July, somewhere around there we did that? Was it August? It was last summer. Yeah.

It was fun, though. I mean, it was good for us. Dude, yeah, of course it was. I never doubted for a single second that you were going to make that putt. And I swear to God, dude, I never doubted for a single second. I don't know what it is. I can't make puts when I make my videos. People laugh and shit on my putting, but for whatever reason, when there's a four-man scramble on the line,

there's a good chance it goes in. and and I get three looks at it, so that helps, but I appreciate that. That makes me feel good. So we're joined by Hardy. I kind of get, I give you a little intro at the top of the show, but you are obviously a country singer, songwriter, you've written for a bunch of phenomenal artists. You've got, and I was going through some of this, you know, you've got one beer, which is a 2020 song.

It's got 90 million streams on Spotify alone. Give Heaven Some Hell, which is your new single, 2021 jam, 20 million streams on Spotify already. Huge golfer and you had an ace, which I want to get to. But you know, you're doing the damn thing. We got to meet you last year. How's life as hardy right now? It's good, man.

I, last year was interesting just because as shitty of a year as it was. It's my best year so far and had a lot of really great things happen. So it was a little different for me. but things are good. We're getting ready to start playing shows again and just everything is looking really good. Yeah, we had, when we were chat with Chris Mandy a little bit about kind of the same thing.

And he was, you know, he got way into golf, super into golf last couple of years with the quarantine, which I think a lot of people did. He had a, you know, a good year in terms of his career or whatnot. So, you know, there's nothing wrong with like trying to be like, hey, I tried to make the best of, made the most of a very, very shitty situation. And it's exciting you guys to get ready to do shows again.

Have you done anything show related in the last year and a half? Yeah, I did. So the first thing that we did actually did like a lot in November and December. I did a show in Rome, Georgia that was socially distanced. And I did a show in Atlanta, two shows in Atlanta that was socially distanced. But, dude, we did Florida in November and it was wide ass open. It was fucking awesome. It was, I mean, just it was a real actual show and it was fun.

And that was the last thing. Actually, I did an acoustic run with this Texas guy, Coetzel, a couple weeks ago. And, you know, this was the week that Texas opened back up. But this coming weekend will be the first time since the Florida shows that will play like full band shows that aren't like socially distance. I'm pumped about it. God, that's awesome. I know, like, you know, Frankie Trent are huge show guys going to shows. So it's, it's probably the thing I'm most excited about for us to hopefully get through the pandemic reopen is going back to shows because there's fucking nothing like a good live show when you guys are into it, when the crowd's into it.

And man, we've been deprived of that shit for like almost a year and a half now. Yeah. What kind of, what kind of shows do y'all usually go to? Just anything and everything? So these guys love like comedy shows I was Frankie I'm sure he'll get into this He always talks about being

He's the drummer in a band Oh I didn't know that Oh yeah Oh yeah Well that's what I want You play lefty No I play no I'm actually dominant right hand So everything's righty

But I want to talk to you about the drums Because on your album a rock You have some fucking awesome rock songs on there And your drummer kills it with the double bass drum I mean I in that song boot You guys just fucking rock out Oh yeah That's that's probably my favorite

favorite song. Maybe not on that record, but to play live, that's number one, dude. That's my favorite song to play every night. Yeah. I actually just want to get right into that. So, you're diehard country. You're just country through and through. You got the voice, you got the story. Everything about you is country. Where did the inspiration to try and, you know, bring in a little bit of rock and roll into that album come from? Well, so I grew up in Mississippi and I grew up very country and but I didn't listen to country music until like Eric Church came along. So I just my family, my mom and my sister did, but like my dad didn't really care for it. And so he kind of, he kind of just forced rock and roll on me from my early age.

So I always loved rock and roll. And that's the one like weird thing about the whole situation is that I didn't listen to country until probably 2010. 10. So that's that's really truly just kind of natural instinct or natural influences to talk, speak the language, you know, country and talk about like kind of what I know, which is, you know, how I grew up in like my experiences. But sonically and musically, it's, it's just, it just comes out that way. It's just sort of what I'm, what I've always, you know, listen to. And it's like, it's not, it's not crazy. It's actually one of my favorite things about really into music, but I'm a huge country fan.

So anytime there's influence from guys clearly liking stuff, you see it seep in. And I mean, Eric Church, like one of his biggest jams is Springsteen, or it's just about fucking Bruce Springsteen. So it's like it's cool to see other influences creep in. I think that like, you know, bringing that, especially if it's your passion, it's clearly something you know a ton about. You've, you've loved forever you've been into, letting that like creep into your albums to your songs.

It's so authentic and it just plays. Yeah. And I think country music is, and I think every genre, to a certain extent is similar to this, but I think country more than anything is there's such a broad spectrum. There's such a broad spectrum. Like, if you played a Sam Hunt song and a Midland song or a John Party song back to back, most people, if you were from a different planet,

you would never think that that was the same genre. And I think a little bit I used to be almost opposed to that. But now that I'm like, I've gotten in the industry and stuff and I kind of understand it more. I appreciate that there's, you know, 20 different lanes of subgenre within the country genre. I think it's really cool. Sport clips stylists are experts when it comes to men's and boys' haircuts. Speaking of, you know, boys and haircuts, Frankie probably has, I would say, the best head of hair on this show. And when you get a nice haircut, Frankie, it's very noticeable.

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Luke Brian, if he called any of those people tomorrow, I guarantee you they'd probably write it with him. And I just think personally that, for lack of a better term, they're probably just mad that they're not more in the rat race, in my opinion, because it's fun and it's lucrative, and that's not what it's all about, but it's, it's awesome. And I think just playing the game as part of the game,

and but yeah there's people up there there's people out there that that turn their nose up in a heartbeat also like having having a plethora of types of songs to be able to to pull from playing live like being able to you know you can you can have a nice melody and old school country song and then all of a sudden like another song that I love on a rock is where you're at where it's just such a groovy rock feel it's like holy fuck what kind of concert am I at right now where I just heard boots I just heard. It's just like, you know, you can go grab a beer come back and feel like you're not at a country, a concert. You're at a fucking rock concert. And then you go grab another beat. Come back and you're crying because the lyrics are so, you're holding up your beer because it's like, it's, you want to kiss your fucking, the girl right next to you. It's such a good, it's such a good mix up in that. That's got to be so much fun for you to be able to mix that up on stage as opposed to just on an album. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, there's something for everybody. And hopefully, you know, I feel like it's all cohesive in a way, you know, to where it's,

it doesn't come off like not authentic or not, you know, me. But, but I love that about just that my kind of thing is, is, yeah, there's just, there's something for everybody. And it really is truly a lot of it. All it is is just like inspiration coming out and in a way that, you know, like you said, like this, I'm a fan of this kind of stuff. And so I have a song that's kind of in this lane and this lane in lyrically or whatever. It all kind of comes together in the end.

But I love it, man. And it's true. Like, I have, I think it creates a better fan base for me just because there, you know, some people might not be into the big rock stuff, but maybe are in more of the songwriter stuff. So there's, you know, there's stuff for everybody. Dude, talk to me about being this. You're up, your come up like being probably one. one of the best songwriters in the game at one point, and now you're your own guy.

Like, how, how, how do you, like, transition from that? I find that super interesting. You write God's country, Blake Shelton singing it. It's got fucking hundreds of millions of downloads. Like, how do you go from that to then, like, getting the confidence to do it on your own? Man, it's actually kind of a crazy story. I never, like, I was just a songwriter, and I didn't want to be an artist. And not that I'm not grateful.

I'm extremely grateful and thankful that the opportunity presented itself. But so my situation, the transition was tough, dude, because I just had enough people being like, you should do your, you should do the artist thing and you should do the artist thing. And one day, Joey Moy, who is the producer at Big Loud, who's produced, you know, a lot of my favorite people, he called me out of the blue one day. And he just said, hey, man, I just wanted to let you know, I've been hearing a lot of your demos. and if you if you ever wanted a record deal and wanted to cut a record like I would cut a record on you tomorrow and I was like my mind was kind of blown a little bit and so I just said yeah because I you know the opportunity presented itself and I was like I think I'd be an idiot if I didn't see what this is all about but dude it was hard man like the first time I think I went to like a country concert or something after like after my stuff started sort of popping off or whatever and like losing your anonymity or whatever and I'm sure you guys even see a little bit of that you know like just people

recognizing you and shit I wasn't used to that and I wasn't expecting that because I wasn't shoot that wasn't my goal and so the transition was it was really really hard man and there's still times where I kind of deal with that because I still consider myself just like a songwriter and it's just taken a lot to process but then at the same time man you like to build a fan base and you have you see all these people that support you and they have your back and and to be able to see like, you know, the music and how it affects people. And I get like, you know, give having some hells like my single. And did I get all these messages all the time on Instagram of how that song has kind of helped somebody get through loss and that sort of thing? It's super

rewarding. But it was tough at first, man. It really was. It was something that took a lot of getting used to. Is it more difficult to write a song for knowing that someone else is going to sing it to write it for yourself? Probably somebody, somebody else. It's all, yeah, because like,

when it's for myself, it's more of like what comes naturally, you know, but if we're shooting for a specific person, you have to dig into the lyric a little more, you know,

so-and-so wouldn't say that. They wouldn't sing about this, you know, and that kind of thing. So it definitely requires more finesse, if you will, to try to,

to, to like peg one down for somebody else. Are you coming up with the melodies when you're writing? Like God's country. Like is that just lyric based, like your work? Or are you actually coming up with like the riffs and the melodies and where he's going to take his voice and where are you going to go higher and lower? I think 95% of songwriters, there are a few guys that are pretty much lyrics only.

But a large percent of the guys in town, it happens at the same time. Right. And if anything, the lyrics. are never, they never stand alone. Usually if, like, nobody ever comes in with essentially a poem that you have to turn into a song, but you will come in with a melody, a chord like a groove and then have a really sick melody and then try to find, you know, the words that fit that, but, but it's never the opposite. Very few people come in and they're like, I have this written down and they read it. It just, I think back in the day, that used to be a thing, but in my experience, I think

that's only happened one time and it wasn't with me. It was somebody came in with. like a lyric and it was it was it is it's funny to hear you call it a poem because that's just what it is it's just like no that's just a poem that's not a song dude yeah yeah it's tough it's tough to put melody to words but it's easier to put words to melody i think yeah it's also super interesting to hear you talk about coming up yeah that was like put that on a t-shirt right it's uh it's interesting to hear you coming up because everybody else the goal is the opposite right they dreamt their their whole lives when they're playing in bars like like they dreamt about being the star.

They dreamt about hearing their song in the radio. They dreamt about like being recognized and going to the grand lobby and you having essentially like kind of the opposite view of like, oh shit, people recognize. Like that's not actually what I, what I was getting into. It's just such a different kind of mindset towards it, which is it's really interesting to hear. Yeah. When I, when it, it really hit me like about six months into like after I, after Hickson. tape came out. I don't know if y'all've heard that. It was something I'll put out a couple years ago.

And that kind of, that was the first thing that really sort of blew up. And my, I talked to a guy and he said that, you know, I was wondering why I was so down and, and just stressed all the time or whatever it was. And he pretty much put it in perspective, like, that I am internally, and this is really deep, but, you know, whatever, that I'm suffering the loss of my former self because I would probably never have that back. You know what I mean? And so I was dealing with a lot of, you know, I wasn't going crazy,

but it was a very psychological thing because I didn't know how to process that my old life was done and over. And I'm not Elvis by any means, but you know what I mean? I was trying to figure out how to process that Michael Hardy as a songwriter who could go anywhere he wanted to and nobody would know who he was was essentially dead. You know, it's pretty crazy. But it's in a weird way that's actually the healthiest way, That's like the healthiest mindset you can have. Because if you're the other way, and you're like Riggs was saying, where people want to be the star, they want to be known by millions of people, they want to be super famous, you end up chasing the wrong things. But I think in your case where you're sort of, you did it backwards, yet you're going through this obviously strange period where you feel like your former self is now gone.

But you have the right perspective to have for a person in that situation. I think so. Yeah, I try to. I'm really thankful, I think, for the whole process because it, yeah, I definitely, never wanted to be, um, famous. So yeah, I think that I have a good grip on that just because, yeah, I mean, you nailed it. That's, you're exactly right.

Have you ever written a song about that feeling? Um, yeah, I wrote a song with Morgan on his, uh, recent record, Living the Dream that was kind of similar to that just about how. And that was a little bit more of like,

um, yeah, I mean, it covers a lot of stuff, but it has, a little bit to do with how it's it's you know it can it can really bring you down if you know if you're if you're approaching it a certain way for sure super interesting i love it is yeah i love like i love talking to these guys man like you we've gotten into it with jake with cole splindell just

because it's like it's real meaningful stuff that i think helps a lot of people process stuff because they can you know even if somebody's not necessarily a country start it's recognizable right like anybody can relate to the feeling of of your life changing dramatically and sort of like your past who you were no matter what whether it was like within a friend group or within a career or a certain job like you're never going to have that again and it's not going to be who you yeah are going forward so I think like these types of conversations when they get deep you might not expect that when they come to the four play golf podcast but I love it because it's it's real and everybody goes through real emotions you know yeah and I like that

you know talking about it in a format like this because I mean people it really is is kind of inside looking out like it's you know we're all still humans you know what i mean and and it's it's it's tough sometimes it's it's really tough and even when out before any of this happened i always thought like there's no way that they're depressed they have all the money in the world they can do anything they want they can go anywhere they can do anything but it really you know when it comes down to like your happiness and and all that it really it can take a toll on it if you don't have you know the right perspective and the right grip on it i've seen it with a lot of people. It's a very real thing. It's super true, man. We've seen it on like a such a smaller level on

our on our side, right? Like we do things. We're just trying to make livings over here. Like I never thought, I was working at a pizza shop. Never thought in a million years I'd be having people calling me a fucking fat asshole on the internet for the rest of my life. So like, like, it does rattle you a little bit. Yeah. We're like, man, like, I mean, I've talked to people before where I'm like, there's nights where I'm just like, man, it was so easy to just fucking take pizzas out of that oven and work with my dad and see my aunt and my cousins and just fucking drive home get to work at four o'clock but you know like there was opportunities to go out and better ourselves you every everyone saw an opportunity to do it and we put ourselves out there and yeah there's prices you got to pay but it's also fucking awesome at times right like

there's no doubt that it's awesome um but it is crazy to hear it from all walks of life man like you see you turn on the fucking radio and your songs playing like you don't think that that's like a regular person that's like man like i don't know it's fucking yeah i don't know that i want to be on like everyone listening to my voice right now. You know what I mean? It's different. It's weird. Sure. Totally. Merch. Everybody loves merch and we've got some really good stuff. We're all wearing it right now from the four play hoodies to the Barstool golf hoodies to our new Peter Millar gear to accessories. We got transfusion head covers, drivers, drivers, three woods, putters, whatever you would

like. We've got it. Store.orgal Sports.com. Go to the foreplay section, go to the golf section, and you will find all of our favorites. And we just have a ton of different options outside of that. Trent has the old pen, the classic pen hoodie on, pen to the moon. We've got Nardini hockey club. I got one of their hoodies. So outside of the golf stuff is a lot of good things as well. But fellas, have we done the merch game pretty well or what? I mean, you want to talk about companies to pair up with?

You're talking Peter Millar. You're talking G4. If you go on our site and you go through our quarter zips, the fact that there's Peter Malar quarter zips on the Barstil sports website is actually an astonishing fact. Like, customized Peter Millar clothing. Like, how did we get here? That's as good as it gets.

It's the number one clothing company to associate yourself with in golf. That's just a fact. Just says Barstall Golf right on it. Fucking Barstle Golf. And it's just such good quality. Every time I've worn a Peter Malar quarter zip, collared shirt, pants, the whole thing, I've gotten compliments.

Someone complimented me. We haven't talked about this. And I don't know if this is specifically Barcelona merch, but someone in Vegas, I mean, a grown woman, I don't know, 45, 50 years old, yeah, stopped on the Vegas strip and said, oh my God, what pants are those? She had her husband with her.

She had her husband with her. And she goes, look, honey, like, you need pants like that. And I kind of like pinched the front of my pants so that my butt would stick out of them because she was behind me. I said, oh, you like these? She goes, yeah, like, what are those? I said, Peter Millar. Now that's the kind of company that we,

are associated with. You go on there. You can get any, you can get all, we have such a plethora. I've used that word twice in this podcast. Now we have a plethora of Peter Malar stuff. And we got just hoodies. We got everything. Hoodies, hats. Like he said. Little trinkets. You know, that's the second time he's the word trinkets.

You're on a roll. I'm on a roll. He's doubling up on words. I don't even know if this adry's going to go in a part where I've said trinkets already, but that's what we're doing. Store.orgosports.com. Go get our gear. That's how you can support us. That's how you can look good. And again, we take very seriously. We put it on really good brands, apparelals, all kinds of good stuff. So store that barcelesports.com.

Let's talk about your golf game. Because your, G is the assholes call it. You're, uh, yeah, you're, I mean, you're sick. You were kind of the ringer of that country star country music group. You, I mean, I think maybe we just didn't expect you to be that good, but like, what's your handicap right now? You're sick. Um, I mean, I haven't honestly played enough to really dial it in, but I also, I finished

last year at like a seven or six. six, five or something like that. And you're not, you're, you haven't been playing forever, right? I mean, I've been playing since I was probably like, like realistically playing since I was like 16. Okay. And, and you, so you were, you were probably my, my favorite part of the crew because you were very into it.

You tell you were competitive. Yeah. You were grinding over reeds. And you weren't there just to have a slap dick fuck around and we'll see you win. you were you were kind of like no we're gonna like we're gonna win we're gonna beat these guys Jake got you know he got he got a little loss in the sauce so you were kind of the ringer and and it was just fun because we were like okay this Hardy he's a problem hardy's a problem when I heard you say that on the tea something kind of happened where I was like all right

I'm gonna when you saw me hit a couple of irons and you were like you were walking by and I remember you saying like Hardy's going to be a problem and I was like I like that that's the perspective right now I'm going to try to continue that all day. But yeah, I'm just competitive, man. And I knew, I mean, at the end, you know, I had a blast no matter what. But I definitely wanted to, dude, and there's cameras and shit. Like I was like, I want to play as good as I can.

Yeah, this is my one shot for whether people know who I am or not to see, you know, see my swing. And I just, I was there for it, dude. The swing showed up real well. I got the single one out of my throat and my tongue. I don't know what's happening. Craig is bad on a little throat issue, tongue is you. water. The swing showed real well. I got that lefty, smooth swing. People are used to see in my lefty, quick, very vicious, violent swing. It was a nice change of pace to see someone that has

actual tempo and has, you know, some beauty to it. And I really, really enjoyed watching, yeah, it takes divvits. I really enjoyed watching Hardy play some golf because you could tell that you take it seriously, but also that, like, you, you love the game. I appreciate that. And I do, man. And you know, what's funny is like, I, not a snob by any like I'm from fucking 8,000 people town and you know redneck and I love being loud and having a good time but like for some reason just the whole aesthetic and the etiquette of golf I just appreciate the fuck out of that like which is kind of not me or it's very not me but but it just everything dude like looking which I looked like shit that day but

like dressing nice and like but fixing your divot and you know the talking in the back swing and stepping in lines and just all of that. I truly, I genuinely, because it's a part of the game, in my opinion, it all comes in one package. And I just appreciate the game of golf, I think, more than any other sport. Do you think because it's so alternate universe of your upbringing and your lifestyle that you almost feel like that's like an alternate universe Hardy where you can step into this like other world for like four hours where things

are a little bit more controlled and there's a structure to it structure there's the etiquette it's like you you're like shoulders are back and your heads like held high a little bit more as opposed to like I mean in your songs you're talking about like your dip can is filled more than yours and it's just a lot more just like dirtier grungier fucking just slumming it through and trying to get by and golf couldn't be more opposite so I wonder if that do you do you think there's any correlation to that yeah it's probably somewhat of an outlet because I'm I'm not I don't really walk through life prim and proper or with the proper etiquette or anything like that. Yeah, I definitely probably subconsciously, I don't know if I've ever thought about it like that,

but there's definitely probably some sort of outlet for just a little bit of discipline and whatever you want to call it. Dude, it is funny, right? Like we all wear fucking hoodies and jeans and backward hats. And then when we go do this one thing, this one thing, we're all like collared shirt, tucked in, nice khakis. Nice shoes that look like fucking ballroom dancing shoes. And it's like we all kind of do this thing.

It's so it's just not us. It's almost like when people like, you know, when they go to work and it's professional and that's just a different human than they actually are. They just like the definition of being professional is you're just act like who you aren't. And it's almost like that on golf. We do like we get all geared up. We do all this stuff that we don't ever do in any other realm of life. Yeah, that's true.

And it's, it's really interesting. I feel like golf is like one of the few things that that like exists. And I think like you guys are bringing a certain culture that makes it cool because like you said, you guys are in hoodies and stuff right now. And, you know, y'all, it's, I think it's cool for people to see that you're not also like just out on the course like wrecking golf carts, which I think that shit is awesome and funny. But I think the dichotomy is really cool. And I think it's cool that you guys are bringing this like we're normal here.

and but we're, you know, golf people, whatever you want to call that here. And I think it's a cool thing and I appreciate that. And I feel like I can relate to that. And it's, right, there's like a, there's, I think in golf, everybody's pretty comfortable with fitting yourself to the surroundings, right? Like if we go to a certain muni where it's kind of like no holds barred and you get away with, then like it's a little more casual or chill. You're wearing their hoodie.

You're playing music. But also if you get invited to Cyprus or something, and we're all all in on whatever Cyprus point wants us to do. It's like, no, that's fine. I won't, I'll burn myself on. I'll throw it in the fucking Pacific. I don't, I don't care. I just, I'm happy to be here.

I'm happy to act how you guys want me to act. And I think that in golf, we're all very willing to sort of make sure that we're cool to a certain degree with whatever the place that we're at is cool with. Because again, it's, for whatever reason, it's like part of the game. We're happy to do it. And we love the game.

So here we are. And we're going to, we're going to abide. by whatever you want us to abide by. Oh, dude, you better bet when I went and played Pinehurst last year, I was at Dick's sporting goods buying the nicest clothes, club cleaners, all everything, dude, because you're right. I wanted to look awesome. I wanted to feel awesome and look cool and look like I was supposed to be there.

And, yeah, you're exactly right, man. But if I go play some shitty course up the road, I'll probably wear this. You know what I mean? Just because it's, it's, it fits the aesthetic. Um, so we got to hear about the ACE. Um, you know, I, I, I jump on Instagram and all of a sudden I see walking up. You're doing that. You know when it's an ACE video because the guy's like walking up to the green and his buddy filming. Uh, so walk us through what happened. So we played, uh, it was me and my buddy Nick and we played, uh, we had played 18 holes. So the one thing is that we played 27 that day. So this was whole 20 of 27. Um, it was the worst round that I've played in. three years. I shot 88 on a par 70. It was horrible. I played absolutely horrible. So we made our second turn, right? We made our turn at 18 or whatever what you want to call. We finished 18. They sent us to the back for our last nine. My buddy, we're in the same cart.

It's just me and him. He's a lefty. So I said, you know what, it'll be fun. Let's play. out of each other's back. So that hole, I hit that hole in one with his nine iron. No way. No way. We didn't really think about it until like two minutes into the celebration that it was his nine iron. And he has, so anyway, we traded. He's playing today and he's got my nine iron.

I was going to say it's your nine iron now. Yeah, he's got tailor-made irons and so do I. So at least they're similar, similar, similar, similar. irons um but yeah so it uh it was just a big 150 yards pin was in the very back kind of somewhat of a two tier green really long maybe like a hundred foot and length green uh somewhat narrow and it was just a big cut and uh into the wind and and uh the wind was just eating it up so it was you know it was it was cutting and just it just shot up in the space and um it hit the right side of the green and it was a big cut so uh it took off dude and uh my buddy you know it was just the thing

go in and you know we say that all the time right yeah and uh dude it was just screaming across the green and i mean saw it heard it there was no doubt it wasn't like the ball disappeared or that might be in it it was i mean we we it it was could not be more clear and uh yeah and then we celebrated for a little bit we jumped up and down and uh and then we he was like wait a second That's my fucking honor. And, yeah, it was, it was cool, man. It went up to the pro shop. The guy had a little form to fill out, you know,

and they got a little plaque up there for me. And I got to go pick it up. It's just going to be great. Now, what was the, what was the shot that followed up the hole in one? I feel like we never hear about the next. The shot that followed up a hole in one. No joke was a 300 yard par four. And I put it about 20 yards past the green.

Oh, dude. I had been, uh, wind was two. my back. I mean, it wasn't, you know, but I had been hit, I could not get off the tea that day. And I, and that was probably the best drive I've hit all year. That's funny. I think I feel like if we asked every single person that's gotten a hole in one, the next shot, you know, for most amateurs, it'd be like a back to earth, like, you know, you just duff it off the tea or something. You hit it out of bounds. It's like, all right. Like, that's who I am.

My brother, my brother, abandoned playing Pacific Dunes, there's 10 and 11 or the holes back-to-back part three is he gets an ace on the 10th hole with a nine iron and then the very next hole was back into the wind so it was also a nine iron he topped it into the shit made triple and couldn't have possibly cared less we went right after that he ordered a bunch of transfusions we had a bunch of drinks we had the best day of all the time but perfect nine iron his was similar like he hit it just how he wanted to one hop rolls right in the hole was like deserved to go in great shot next cold top off of tea so so so i think you're on to something frank you got to ask everybody that uh you know it's funny. My favorite part of the story is when we got back. It wasn't like a, it's not your typical

clubhouse. It's like a, it's out in the country. It's, you know, it's a, it's, it's not a super, super, super nice course. It's a great course. He's got a lot of charm, but, you know, it's Nashville. So there's a lot of great places, but this is my course and it's like five minutes from my house. And I just, I joined it last year. But we get back up to the clubhouse and, you know, they have a fridge that has beer in it. And they, uh, I get up there and there's like an abnormal amount of carts. It's close to dark and there's a lot of carts sitting around. and I was I walked in to tell the guy Jonathan the pro. I was like, I hit a home one.

And I was about to ask like, can I go out here and just have these guys file in and get a beer if they want a beer? And but I didn't ask him. I said, what's to deal with all these carts? And he was like, oh, on Tuesday nights we do a church event where like this certain church has a bunch of guys that come out here when we play a little nine hole tournament. So I didn't, I stayed away from running out there and asking who wanted a beer. beer. I thought that was funny. That is great.

That's amazing. That is amazing. Yeah. Saved you a bunch of money that you had the church crew out there. Yeah, I guess so. This place is awesome. They have $1.

Natter-Days. So I might have could have got out of there with like $100 or $50 or something like that. But, yeah, it was funny. It was a good time, though. It was a good day. Any golf trips coming up that you have planned? Any cool golf courses that you have your eye on? you know I'm playing a place we're playing millageville Georgia

this weekend and I'm playing a nice place there it's it's got like a Native American name I can't think of it it's like it's like color we or something it's something like that's the same guys that re did number two pinehurst number two oh yeah core Crenshaw yeah he did this he did this place so it's it's going to be legit but I'm excited about that and then I have for a buddy, Jameson Rogers, who's actually, he's a really good golfer too. He's a singer. He, he, his, like, bachelor party kind of situation, we're going back to Pinehurst.

We're going to do two for, I think, eight, and we're going to do that tobacco road thing. And hopefully playing the fiddle every night before dark, too. But, so I'm pumped, dude. I haven't played a whole lot of really great courses, but I've done sawgrass. And I've done pine And I got to say, Pinehurst is, there's just something about that, that place, dude. It is just, I even hate this word, but it truly is, like, magical. I mean, it's just so freaking badass. I love it. And number two is so hard, but it's just awesome.

And it's just great. Yeah, they figured it out there. I think they figured it out there. Clearly, I love Pinehurst, but I think everyone on this show loves Pinehurst? Yeah, it made me ball like a baby. Dude, my favorite part is that, like, the transition from Earth to Fairway is incredible to me. It's just, it's like, it's similar to like the, the, like a desert course. It is and it's not, but it's, it's, it's that classic case of, of, um, a course cut into the landscape of what Earth looks like there.

You know what I mean? Yep. Yeah. And just how there's no rough. and it just, it looks like shit, and then it's like a little grain, a little green, and then it's just pristine, you know, the closer it gets to the center.

I don't know what it is, but I just thought that was the coolest thing in the world. I really enjoyed that. Yeah, it kind of feels like they just went out there and put a couple flag sticks in 18 different spots and we're like, yeah, this is the golf course. Yeah, and I didn't really know that they, I didn't know that they had redone it.

I didn't know that it used to be more of just like a tradition or just a regular course with rough, and all that. I didn't know, like 2010 or 11 or 12 or something like that. They redid it. Yeah, I think 2010 they came in and, you know, it's crazy that process that they do. We've talked with Pashley about it a good amount, but, you know, they go through all the old photos as many as they can find and they try to, like, legit use photography to best guess where everything really was, you know, in the 30s or the 40s or the 20s or whatever. and and legit try to like mimic it and then revert everything back to that while keeping like some modern characteristics. So it's a it's an incredible process that they do. And I think like Piner's number two, like you said, it looks now the way that they did. If you look at photos from the 90s and in 2000s before

they redid it, you know, it just looked a little bland and had like rough like any other kind of course and whatever. And now when you see a picture from Piner's number two, you know it's Piner's. Yeah, totally. I love it, man. The great. Greens, I mean, how were they when you guys, when you guys played them? I know they're always insane, but they're a nightmare. I de-greens, I think, seven times. I mean, they were just so hard. More turtles than the fucking Bronx Zoo.

Never seen greens like that. Hell yeah. Whole number one, y'all know Logan. Logan Lockard? Oh, yeah. Frankie. That's Frankie. Does Frankie know Logan?

I mean, yeah, that's the sweet science for me, man. that guy had me dialed in more than anyone's ever had me dialed in. Dude, he's my favorite caddy I've ever had. I talked to him like once a month. I mean, which is, you know, I've never done that with a caddy in my life. He's just the coolest dude and he keeps up with me and stuff. He's really cool. But he was my caddy on the first day and when we played number two.

And on whole number one, you know, they're all, they're all just, like you said, just a freaking mound. He did, I think Pam was kind of close to the middle. And he said, man, for your first, I missed the green. He was like, for your first chip, just put it in the middle of the green. We'll at least give you a shot to make a par. Dude, and I chipped it in the middle of the green. And it rolled all the way off.

I came back to me or to the right. And even Logan was like, well, I've never seen that before. They're going to be tough today, Bull. And I was like, oh, shit. It was awesome. No, he's a really good caddy, man. He gets you dialed in. just like when you're playing a course like that,

you really have to have the right mind and the right headspace because there are certain shots like you're saying that you can't go right at the pin. You have to be able to take it in spots that you feel uncomfortable with. And when you have a good caddy like Logan, he makes you feel comfortable doing shit that like you would never think about doing. I remember he was having me putt from like 35 yards off and it was like 150 feet away from the pin. He's like, I guarantee you will enjoy where this ball ends up

as opposed to trying to nip one clean and, like, spin it back. Like, you don't have that game. No, he was really cool, ma'am. Yeah, I can't wait. I hope we get him again when we go back. I'm going to try to request him because he's a great cat. When you guys tour around and do shows, when you guys tore around and do shows, do you have, like, a specific crew that you play golf with, like,

and you kind of get golf into the schedule. Like, are you playing with the same guys each show? Well, I plan to do that in the future. You know, we just, we had just gotten in a bud. I guess at the end of 2019. I think they're like probably halfway through 2019 or into the fall. And we're kind of just getting the bearings and stuff because it's hard to, if you're not in a bus,

it's hard to make that happen every day because, you know, you don't get there until later in the day and all that. But in the future, I want to, I want, especially the summer, especially if we play shows, I would like to play every day if there's a nice course around and yeah, I don't know, maybe some guys that we're on tour with, you know, or like Swindell's a golfer and Jake. If we ever do stuff with them, I would love to go out and play every chance I get. My goal, I want to try to break par one time this year.

That's kind of my goal. It's a pretty good seven handicapped, dude. That's a pretty fucking good seven. Like I think you're, I think we got to dial in that number a little bit more. because you said something before that made me want to, like, throw up. You're like, I played, like, fucking shit, and I shot in 88. I haven't, I don't think I've had, I don't think I've hit 88 in, like, in two months. And I'm, like, it's just, it's hard to believe that.

You got a good swing, man. Yeah, it's up here. Yeah, I hear that. He does have a nice swing. It's, um, it's everything else. It's something else. Oh, yeah. I'm, I'm trying.

I've started off better this year, uh, than I usually do. I'm usually at like a 12 or 13 or maybe even more than that. But I've started off striking the ball better and feel like my swing is more figured out earlier in the year this year. It usually takes me until May or so to get to really feel like I'm confident. And it's just around the greens right now, I'm trashed. I feel like I've never putted a ball in my entire life. So I'm kind of trying to dial that in a little bit.

I got a little thing in my basement and do interviews, stuff. I have my AirPods in and I'm just putting putting balls all day. What are you, are you in like a little man cave right now by the last? You dartboard back there. It looks like a bar. It's my basement and my little home studio, which is what I'm pretty much sitting at right now. But yeah, this I bought a house a couple years ago and and this was just a concrete room and and I've done a lot to it. It's still got a long way to go. I'm trying to get a golden tea over here in the corner. Yeah. I think that'll be that's that'll be the the final touch to it.

But yeah, I love it down here. I spend a lot of time down here. Hell yeah. Yeah, you got a golden tea touch. They even have those smaller ones. Have you seen those? It's like arcade one up or something. And they've got like, they're like three-fourths of a full one.

So they're not, they don't dominate your whole room. Yeah, my buddy has a studio and he's got one. You definitely can get your fix. You just can't do the thing because you'll break your hand because the screen is like, you kind of have to do the thumbs or, or yeah, you'll definitely break. You got to get the full fucking thing, man. You got to do the whole fucking slide. I think it would be, I don't know if I would ever leave.

We had one in the office. I don't know where the hell it went. Yeah, we did have one for like a month. And we were playing the shit out of it. My hand started hurting. I don't know where that went. That's probably why they took it away. You guys were playing on it too much.

Seriously. It's the last thing they need is us to get distracted more than we already are. All right. Hardy. When are the show is kicking off? When are we getting going? Pretty much this weekend. Let me check my calendar. I mean, this weekend, the next weekend, the next weekend, the next weekend. So we have a month of shows. I mean, I'm looking at my schedule. With the exception of a couple weekends, we're on tour every weekend until probably October,

which is awesome. amazing. Where can people find it? There you go. Yeah, website, social. Where are-hardy official.com will have my tour schedule. And we've got a lot of stuff in the works that we can't announce or confirm yet. So there will be a large, there will be a lot of shows that will be added very, very soon. But yeah, Hardy Official.com and my Instagram is just at Hardy. By the way, it's a good Instagram to have.

I had to pay a guy like $500 for it. Did you really? Yeah, right when I started, there was a guy. And you know what's funny is it's, I don't know if this was his handle, but there's a Bollywood star whose name is Hardy Sandu. And if you go to my Instagram and go to my tagged photos, there are so many Indian people that tag me. Dude, like way more than I'm tagged because he's like a huge star.

but they I get tagged in more like I think I hope they're Indian I think that they're Indian I think he's like in India somewhere yeah anyway just for shits and giggles when you get off of here go look at my tagged photos and it's and I think that's whose account we bought which is crazy that he let us get it for a hundred bucks but dude it's it's thousands of of Indian people just taking selfies and they tag this Hardy Sandu guy Jesus that's hilarious that's such a good handle though So many people have to do like Hardy underscore official or something like that. Yeah. That's just so good. It's clean. So clean.

Oh, talk to me about what's with the capitalization on all those songs. How come every single song capitalize? Is there a meeting behind that? It just started with my first EP I put out. And I don't know. I think just it stands out. And, you know, like when you talk about songs like boots and where you add, it's just bold.

And there's really, there was no strategy behind it other than that it just it's the music can be bald at palms and and uh just kind of wanted to follow suit with that and you know now we got to stick stick with it forever but i like it i think it's yeah i like it too it's something it's very noticeable like you're on spotify you're going through you like every single fucking thing's capitalized here i mean he's screaming at us boots it's just fucking you're just fucking screaming at us i like it yeah i appreciate it yeah you notice it too like when you're on a playlist a country playlist is something it's like it just all the

songs are whatever not cat boys not but and then a hearty jam is like boom that's a party hearty jam yeah hopefully the song follows suit with that no it does man no you're doing a good job man you're killing it i'm a really big fan i i liked reading into everything and you having you on here talking about everything is uh you know you i'm excited to come see you live one of these days please do all of you guys uh i know riggs has my number just just share it with everybody and Anytime we're in the area or even if you guys, you know, wanted to fly out to a show, whatever, man. Y'all come hang out.

It's fun to see it from the other side. I don't know if you've gotten to have that experience much, but it's cool to see the sausage get made in the back, you know, and see it from the side stage or even walk out in the front and just kind of be able to go wherever you want. It's a cool experience. So please don't ever, don't ever be afraid to hit me up and come to a show anywhere you want to go.

Amazing. You're going to abuse the hell out of it. I mean, we, I'll be there. Man, we like, when we started becoming, you know, buddies with some of you guys, it was like, it was within the pandemic hit. So, like, we haven't been able to, like, really go to any shows and get the different experience that you guys keep kind of teasing us. So you're going to see us.

We're coming. All right. Well, I appreciate it, guys. Please hit me up. Hardy, thanks, man. Absolutely. We appreciate having it. Thank you for having me on.

You got it. Thank you for coming. We'll play some golf. We'll get to some shows. We'll have a good time. All right. Keep in touch. Good to see y'all. Later, bro. Later. See you, man.