Fore Play - Have You Already Shot Your Career Low, And Will Bryson Embarrass Augusta National?
Episode Date: October 6, 2020Much has occurred in the world since our last pod. Sergio won while putting with his eyes closed. Aaron Rai won with iron covers. The president has COVID. Augusta went from brown to green. We discuss ...the possibility of Bryson flipping golf on its head by destroying Augusta National, debate if we’ve already shot our career lows or not, discussed whether putting with your eyes closed is insane or not, and how to handle missed “gimmies”!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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We've got the entire crew lurches in the car.
He will be at a computer shortly, I believe.
It's Sunday evening that we're recording trying to get this thing in.
Frankie's been all over the countries in L.A. right now.
The sun's out, I got to say, with that white shirt and you're white, the white couch behind you.
Is that too much white?
You just, it looks like you're the same color as your surroundings a little bit.
Poor guy.
I mean, we'll call it lack of awareness on your part.
I mean, yeah, I don't, I'm in a very white room and I'm wearing a white t-shirt.
I mean, I don't know what I'll tell you.
There's a lot of whiteness coming from your whole, your part of the screen right now.
I'm super white.
There's no, I'm like, I can't walk around denying that.
I'm just a white dude.
That's fine.
You're just tons of whiteness coming from that, that, that,
the screen, but we got the whole crew.
We got all four of us.
We're going to be chichette.
Hopefully this is a little smoother than the last show where we did two different
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That was at the airport.
We were all over the fucking place last time.
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Scramble continues to march on.
We are very good. We talked to the entire show about that last time.
Since we did a podcast, shit's gotten crazy.
I mean, the President of the United States has COVID-19.
Cam Newton has COVID-19.
The Tampa Bay Lightning won the Stanley Cup.
It's been, like, a lot of shit happened between the last time that we all spoke
to each other.
We left Nashville, flew home, drove home, whatever.
And then now there's COVID outbreaks all the time.
Jake Bass saying they're going to shut down Queens and Brooklyn because of COVID-spikes.
So shit's just happening all over the world right now.
What an array of topics.
You started with COVID, the President of COVID, to Tampa Bay won the Stanley Cup.
Those are, I think, things we talk about in this show are who may win the Stanley Cup.
What's going on with COVID because it's everywhere.
It's omnipresent and golf.
Those are kind of the things that we talk about.
Okay.
Fair.
So that's just a blanket statement about what happened in our world.
Yeah.
I was like Lurch is calling into a microphone,
which is then facing another microphone going in here.
And then we threw him into a well,
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Year 2020, there should be no audio that sounds that bad.
No, I'll stay quiet, then.
No, it's fine.
Whatever you had before was perfect,
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like turn on my TV through all.
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Oh God.
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All right, I'm done.
Sorry, no, that was me.
I have this alarm I set for, like,
just to let me know what this podcast was going to happen,
just went off, even though we're 10 minutes.
How about,
how about this?
I'm in a hotel room,
and some asshole that was in the hotel room before me
set the, like,
alarm clock like he's living in the fucking 90s
for 6 a.m. on a Saturday morning.
I don't like that.
That feels deliberate.
That's like the people who would go to restaurants
and untie the salt shaker or unscrew the salt shaker
and it comes out on you.
That feels deliberate to me.
Or on a hockey road trip,
sometimes somebody would bring an alarm clock
that's like a fucking rooster or something crazy
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That seems like one of those moves.
Who the fuck sets an alarm clock in 20?
As you mentioned before, the president has COVID.
We've got anarchy as it is.
We don't need people making even more anarchy.
Like that guy who said, I'm almost positive.
That was a deliberate move by that guy in your hotel room.
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Fuck them.
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So I just, it was panic mode.
the whole morning. You may have just changed the course of my hotel experience forever.
I'm going to unplug my alarm clock every time I walk into a hotel.
No. Because if that happened to me, I would, I'd go on a spree. I'd freak out.
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Like, someone was just going to appear and make the situation better. But I had to figure out
this machine that its only purpose in life for this moment was to just make noise.
It was crazy.
It was absolutely crazy.
I'm in such a nice hotel in L.A.
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I think that's too, like, below their style guide.
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dollars it's too much when my brother and i went to the pGA in 2007 when tiger won at southern
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I mean, you were going to, everyone was just going to die. It was that hot. You had to buy them.
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Sergio Garcia.
That's a name.
I feel like we haven't heard unless he's freaking out and, you know,
dragging his feet across greens.
Saudi Arabia or, you know, throwing clubs at children or something. I feel like you don't really
hear about Sergio Garcia anymore. And boom, he popped up and just wins on the BGA tour.
The Sanderson Farms. It was his first win since the 2017 Masters tournament. And he did it,
putting with his fucking eyes closed the whole week. How radical do we think putting with your eyes
closed is? Obviously, we had speed a couple of years ago looking at the hole and people freaking out
about that. I'm sure we talked about that. I'm sure. I was thinking about Sergio Garcia
closing his eyes and I might not be as radical as people are making it out to be because once you're
set up once you've seen where the hole is you kind of know where it needs to go if you just close your
eyes and hit the ball don't know how much of a difference that is wrong that's a wrong take like
what do you mean there's no well your eyes are closed that's a mat that's the difference like well
because we had the conversation about the blind golfer too when this came up but the difference between
that and this is that Sergio garcia is able to survey what's in front of him and sort of get a feel for it
and then he closes his eyes.
I just, like, you, the ball's not going anywhere.
So you just have to go forward and backwards.
But there's such a difference between seeing the ball and where your club goes
than not seeing it.
Like for the blind guy, that's his only option.
So, like, yeah, like, you have to fucking, you just got to do with what you have.
He is limited on his options.
And that's what you can't see.
I just don't know that, like, when you just, when you close your eyes and you take away
your vision in which like you have vision usually that that is somewhat like of a better option than
opening up your eyes. I know that it worked. I think that's like the weirdest, cockiest thing to
ever think that like that's what's helping you. Here's where it's different is that in like if you're
throwing a baseball to someone, people say all the time, like, oh, when you throw a baseball
with somebody, you don't think about how hard to throw it. You just look at the person and throw it. But when
you're putting a golf ball, you're not looking where you're also.
putting it because there's a there's a disconnect you look at the hole and then you look down and at
that moment you're not you're just looking down like you're not looking at your target you're not
looking anywhere so and there's there's my tiger like always says put to the picture so I actually
like sometimes I thought about the fact that it's a miracle that we have decent pace on putts
ever because we're just looking at the graph like imagine if someone was like if someone came down
in hockey and and they were shooting from like the top of the circles and they just stared at the
ground and shot like or stared at the ice that would be preposterous like no you look at your
target and shoot and that's just like your natural coordination and everything and judgment takes
over golf's so weird and putting is so weird in that you do you look at the hole and then you
look down and now you're looking at something completely different than your target so i sort of agree
with Trent and that I could see how putting blind or putting with your fucking eyes closed then
what's really not that different than putting looking at the ground because neither one are you
looking at the target right then and in the scenario that you just described speed looking at the
hole makes the most sense because you because you are looking at what you're going to hit but people
freaked out about that too I think we probably did as well but there is something I guess you could say
every golf shot, you're always looking like, no one's ever looking at the target the whole time
on any golf shot. That was going to be my point. It's like you never look at the target. So like,
I don't understand why closing your eyes on a putt is like some, it's not a difference in when
your eyes are open. Not that much of a difference. And is what because here's the, but here's
what I would say, though, is that like on, um, on a nine iron and stuff, it's not about like the pace,
right? You're not like focused on making sure you get the touch and the feel right. You're
just like hitting a full nine iron. You're just like swinging an iron. Or with the driver,
you're not there like, okay, I want to make sure this goes like 278.4 yard. You're just like,
you just pick the right side of the fairway. You try to like swing and hit the fairway.
Putting and chipping and so much about getting the touch perfect that I, like I could see how
doing it that different and taking your vision off of just staring down at the ground could
somehow aid them. Like, clearly it's not the best thing for everyone to do because only one guy in the
world did it. But like, but it's not that crazy to me to see someone doing it. I guess it begs the
question, what percentage of your putting ability do you credit to your eyes? And I don't know
if it's that high of a percentage. You know what I mean? What the, like, what are you,
what are we talking about? What do you mean? Because I, how much of your putting ability do you, do you,
do you attribute to your eyeballs?
Yes, a lot of it.
No, no, but a lot of your putting is attributed to you looking at what's going on.
A lot of it is your eyes are before you step up to the put.
You're like, where am I out on the green?
Where is the ball need to go?
And then once you're up there and you're standing there, I think the percentage is much lower.
Well, I don't know.
I like to think that like the perfect putting mat at barstasports.com and all these things,
like when you're looking at the line and like seeing how you're taking it straight back,
and like getting a feel for like putting on a line and in between fucking like tracks basically.
I think that helps.
I think that's what helps people.
I think that's why you should go buy the perfect putting mat.
I think if you just had your eyes closed, you could be putting on top of fucking like anything.
Don't, don't you try to turn me against perfect putting mat.
Don't add that to your argument.
You threw it a sponsor to safeguard yourself.
This is a crazy, crazy, crazy debate to me.
I don't know. I really, really am on the other side of you guys, I guess.
I just think that, like, looking, I think using your eyes is pretty important for putting.
I would like to add, I don't think Sergio Garcia is doing this if he doesn't have a green jacket.
He's a guy who's had enough of a career where he says, very good.
Yeah, where he says, hey, maybe, you know, I need a little help of my putting.
Maybe I just close my eyes and maybe that helps.
I just don't see, like, the benefit.
I don't know.
Like, I don't know what the benefit is.
Like, all right, like, oh, it gives me a better, like, just do that with your eyes open.
Just put with your eyes open.
I think it frees you up a little bit.
To me, it would only hurt you.
Like, maybe you missed the spot that you wanted to hit the ball on the club base.
Like, there's only a negative I could see from that.
It really helps our case that he won this week.
Yeah, it does.
He putted great all week.
Otherwise, we would just, like, if he putted shitty all week, I'd probably just be arguing.
He's heard you on his eyes.
100% I would be doing that.
Did Sergio have his eyes close on like a 75 foot put?
Because at that point, then like now he's just a fucking,
now he's got like something wrong with him.
It's like an extra sense.
Well, no, like every time.
But what I don't get is why.
Because like when you hit that 75 foot put,
you're not looking at like how far the 75 foot.
You're just staring down to the ground.
Which is a longer swing.
But whether you're staring down to the ground
or whether you're staring at blankness, darkness,
because your eyes are closed, what's the different?
Because it's just a longer swing.
is more room for missing the ball.
Like if you're trying to crush the put or something,
it's a longer swing.
I think you need to use your eyes.
Just like the same reason why you said that you wouldn't close your eyes on a chip
or a long iron.
Like it's just more movement to it.
Whenever you're adding more movement.
Like if it's a little two foot tap in, I can see that.
But like if you're going over a bunk over like a ridge and all this stuff,
like just closing your eyes to me just seems reckless and outrageous.
Reckless.
Look, I don't think any of us would put well with our eyes closed,
but he clearly did.
It worked.
And I'm trying to justify that in my brain.
And I do think the fact that you just stare at the ground
versus staring at the back of your eyelid,
is it really that big of a difference?
The one argument is that, like,
he needs to be really good and have hit so many puts in his life
and feel confident in that,
that standing over there with his eyes closed
is not going to negatively affect a strike of his putt is amazing.
Like I think we'd be, we'd be blocking them, yanking them, like, topping them.
We'd be all over the place.
Correct.
So if anybody can hear me, I agree.
First up, I don't know where my audio is in this whole thing.
Is it okay?
A plus.
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Much better.
Dynamite.
Absolutely dynamite.
So closing your eyes is crazy.
And yes, our big miss would be horrible because I bet we'd chunk pots if we closed our eyes.
and hit putts.
Like, we would just miss, we would not hit the ball well.
So closing your eyes, for him, whatever.
I mean, he made 55 of 56 putts inside five feet,
which is just bonkers.
But I think it's ridiculous to close your eyes and say that's an advantage.
And then to Transpoint, eyes are a huge piece of putting.
I mean, they've got to be probably, I would say 75% of my success comes off my eyes.
Once you're standing over the ball?
Well, once I'm standing over.
And you don't have that much success.
Right.
So, yeah, like my percentage of success might only add up to three where your adds up to 10,
but I still do have success sometimes.
And I think, yeah, I think my eyes are at least 65% even when they're open.
I just lost 10%.
We're getting down there fast.
Like I said, when we were talking about the blind golfer, I think eyes,
are maybe the biggest part because just being able to see the green and see the hole
and be like, this is what I'm up against, I think that is massive.
But I think as soon as you're over the ball and you've already collected all of that data
and you're now just supposed to strike the putt, I don't know how much eyes come into play.
I know that they do, but I don't think it's nearly as high as it was before.
I will say I just did a mimic putter's wing, why I'm driving, with my eyes closed,
and I got the chills.
so maybe I would have success with that.
What?
Got the chills and what?
What do you mean?
No, so I just did, I did a pretend putter stroke, but with my eyes closed,
and I got the chills, and it got me excited that I might make the putt that way.
Oh, that's like a new, you got a new tip there.
I'll tell you what eyes really do benefit is when you're driving,
so that's probably something not to practice while you're driving.
And the second thing is that I think I think we sound insane talking about eyes being beneficial.
For anyone, I think that I think what Rakes said at the end actually put a bow on it where it's like he's just really, really, really, really outrageously good at his putting stroke.
I think maybe only one or two people in the world would be confident enough to do this.
So I think that us sitting here being like this is benefit, like, as if it's like this is what we're supposed to do or maybe this like makes us better or maybe people should go out there and like try this.
I think that that's crazy.
No, that's on such a level of putting that you can literally close your eyes.
It's like, all right, like, sure.
I'm sure there's basketball players that are like, oh, I'm so good.
I have such a perfect free throw stroke.
And if I close my eyes, it just frees me up.
Like, that's because he has the perfect free throw stroke.
Like, if we closed our eyes, we just wouldn't see the target.
Like Michael Jordan actually did do that.
But I, that I'm certainly more inclined to agree with.
If I start putting in my eyes closed, things are likely going to get much and much of course.
Yeah.
Yeah, but for a guy like Sergio, he's been playing for so long and has had so much success.
He thinks maybe if I just change this one thing and I close my eyes, it'll work.
It worked this week.
But for guys like Gus, I didn't want to, I didn't want to.
You started putting with your eyes closed, you'll end up walking off that golf course and handcuffs.
So many things would happen wrong.
So many people would be in trouble and you would do so many crazy things that your life would no longer be the same if you putted a full round of 18 with your eyes closed.
I'm certainly not recommending it.
to the general public. I'm saying for Sergio specifically, I think him closing his eyes
doesn't have as big of an effect as it might appear from the outset. Shout out to our boy Josh,
who we all know, who's, I believe, a zero handicap, who's a right-handed player who is now
switching to left-handed putting because his putting so bad. And I know Frankie, I believe you
considered switching to right-handed, I think, right? Yeah, I wanted to, especially because
Brock Nelson, the American hero,
good guy who plays hard and loves the game
on the New York Island, number 29,
he puts righty, and, like, he just
changed one day, and he's a lights out
short game guy. Like, he
puts away all the whole thing. So it's like, to me,
if someone can do that,
and they said that they put horribly lefty,
like, why aren't I try, like,
why don't I try that? Like, it's working for him.
And then, you know, it's just like, it's not, like,
a sergio scenario where, like, it's not attainable.
I'm watching someone do it in a match,
I'm playing. Like, he's just putting righty. It's crazy. He's got a righty putter at lefty clubs.
I like it. I would love it if you just started putting right hand. And I would love it.
I think it'd be great for you as a person, for us as a podcast. I think it'd be great if you
played golf lefty and then just putted right. And then I could see that seeping right into your
chipping. Next thing, are you chipping right hand? And then you're considering a whole
sway. It'd be a whole thing. It'd be fucking great. So if you wanted to consider that, go for it,
Frankie. Okay. We've got Aaron Rye wins the Scottish Open on the European tour. Great kind of
coffee time. I know Trent's been all over coffee time. This is a great coffee time tournament,
the Scottish Open. It's on Saturday morning, Sunday morning. You catch like the back nine before
you go out and do whatever, like you're watching football or whatever. And we had a phenomenal finish.
Robert Rock was up there who is iconic for never wearing a hat and having an incredible flow.
he's and now they're out there in scotland where it's windy as shit so robert rock
looking like the coolest guy at the fucking world uh was in the mix he had a great chance to win
and then blew it on 18 um Tommy Fleetwood also with iconic hair gets into the playoff by making
a 15 or 20 foot birdie putt on the last hole but Aaron Ryan's up winning in the playoff
because Tommy Flewwood misses a three footer for par turns out this dude who wins has iron
covers, which, you know, iron covers are the classic, you know, if you post a swing, everybody
wants to make fun of them, they say, like, I bet that guy's got iron covers. Well, this fucking dude
not only has iron covers, but he's got a Sharpie, and he exed out because the iron covers
are like the wrong fucking numbers. He exed out the actual one and wrote the real number on
them. And this is what his bag setup is, and he wins on the European tour with this bag set up.
question is kind of will that
will that shut some of the haters up do we like that
do we not like that what do we think about this guy's bag
situation well I don't think it's going to shut up any of the haters
I think we're just too far down the line with with iron covers that people
that's yeah it is one of the things you'll see on all the golf social media
accounts whenever someone has like iron covers they get absolutely torched for it
but if you're good enough and you have iron covers like this guy clearly is
then I think it's fine it's when you're
not that great at golf and you're like, I have these iron covers.
That's when people start to be like, well, what the fuck's going on here?
I think if you're winning, if you're winning at a high level, you can do just about anything
you want and people can't talk shit to you.
It's a Charlie Sheen.
Remember that fucking whole thing?
Winning.
Oh man, he made winning like, I think he actually like trademarked that word, didn't he?
It was a strange thing like Tiger Blood too, and then he joined Twitter and he got like 10 million
followers in like an hour
What year was that?
What year was that?
If I had to guess, and this could be completely
wrong, I'm going to say it was 2016.
I'm going to say 15.
I'm going to guess 15.
I'm going to say 2012.
Wow.
Wow.
That would mean I'm in high school.
I was in, no.
I'm not looking it up currently, so we're just going to sit here.
Oh, okay.
I mean, I thought for sure.
That's 2011.
What?
I knew I was, well, I knew I wasn't working at Barstool yet when that happened.
Really?
Yeah, and I was 2014, so I had knew it was a couple years probably before that.
It's off by five years.
That's crazy.
I wasn't even close.
I wasn't even close.
It's funny.
Every time I hear that, like, winning every, like, in a sentence like that, you just think of Charlie Sheen.
I mean, he looked at the world on fire.
He really did.
And then he did.
He shined Brett.
I mean, he lost his job.
And then they fake, like, killed him on the show.
That was a whole...
Went to my guy, uh, went to my guy, Ashton Coocher from Cedar Rapids.
He got the payday.
Yeah, fuck that guy.
What?
The Rappaschardtch, yeah, he's from Cedar Rapids.
They go, uh, him and Mila, go back for the holidays all, every December.
And people are like, oh, I saw Ashton here and there.
It's always a whole, uh, ordeal.
You know what?
I fucking like that guy.
I like that guy a lot.
How could you not?
He is, uh, he's gorgeous and he's smart and he does the right thing.
and how could you hate him, just because he's from where I'm from?
That was kind of where I was going to have.
Speaking of, like, celebrities and stuff, man, this is my first time in L.A.
And every person I see drive by in, like, a G-wagon or, like, suburban or something,
I'm just like, that's it.
That's, like, the Kardashians.
Like, I just think, like, every person that drives by is super famous.
It's crazy.
And also, well, this past, I don't know.
I mean, we got in the mix with these, like, TikTokers.
I'm not going to get into too much detail.
because I don't know like what is like news and what's not like with stuff that I mean Dave
kind of talked about Dave yeah Dave talked about his podcast he's doing this thing with
Josh Richards one of these TikTok stars and we get we went into this thing called the sway house
and I mean I've never in my life in my life felt less about myself than when I was inside that
sway house it's a bunch of adrenaline filled testosterone filled gorgeous looking 18 year old 20 year old
21-year-old dudes.
I'm talking like supermodel kids with fucking hair coming out of all places.
And they have fucking rock-ha.
I mean, this one dude just looked like a peak Brooks Kepka.
And he's like, what's up, bro?
My name's like, my name's like Garrett.
Like, he said like, like, like, like, like, Gary.
I was like, fuck.
Like, what's going on here?
And at one point, someone actually, I'm sitting there, like, recording stuff.
And I'm, I have this mustache, just pasty face, like this chubby fucking look.
I'm wearing a tape.
Justin Thomas, Justin Thomas came out to you for your face.
First of all, Justin Thomas grew just as bad of a mustache for a long time.
I don't know if that was for like a cause or something, but he looked just as bad.
Me and Justin Thomas have like the same face.
Like, I don't, like, so I do, like, I do take his opinion with, you know, I'm going to take that in stride.
And I may shave this thing off.
I'm going to shave this.
I'm surprised this mustache isn't off of me from what happens.
to me at the Swayhouse.
Like, this kid at one point was like, you know,
um,
he's like,
you guys should have seen me like six months ago.
Uh,
I was chubby and I had this gross ass mustache.
And then he like looked at me in the face.
And then he's like,
but then I just like learned how to like lift a weight and now look at me.
And everyone was like,
yeah,
it's fucking sick,
dude.
No way.
No way.
I mean,
he was clearly talking directly to you.
I,
you had,
you should have fought him,
but obviously he,
He's, sounds like he's chiseled to his chubby, and I used to have this gross-ass mustache,
but then I learned how to lift a weight, and they're like, that's fucking rad.
Like, no fucking way.
And I was sitting there with my tent out, like, fucking holding a camera.
Like, and they're, like, seven to eight years younger than me, and they're just dominating me.
I'm talking, like, they make seven-figure, seven-figure ad deals out here, these kids.
Their house is one-stabreth bathroom has a kitchen in it.
Dude, someone introducing themselves and saying,
saying like before they say their name is so intimidating. I'd never. I would leave. I just
wouldn't, I wouldn't know. Their house was like maybe the biggest house I've ever been in.
Like the one that we were stayed in in Pebble Beach, take that house, you can put that in
this kid's bathroom. I'm not even kidding. His bathroom was outrageous. I'm talking about
the 45 foot high ceilings and maybe the size of a football field. I'm so intimidated by
young packs of
or packs of young adults.
They're dominating us too.
They're dominating us.
Their schedule is they wake up.
They drink.
His schedule was like we wake up at 8.30.
We work out.
We drink protein shakes.
We have breakfast.
And then we go and work out again.
And then we like,
we TikTok meet.
And then we vlog.
We YouTube.
And then we make millions of dollars.
And then we like we rage hard until we can't,
We can't, like, speak anymore, and then we go right back at it.
I mean, they're just dominating us.
I mean, they're making so much money.
Like, the most money ever.
They just make TikToks.
That's just what they do.
They're, like, the new generation of, like,
Zach Ephron and Justin Bieber.
They're just a whole new wave of,
you're talking 20 million, 30 million followers of, like,
teenage girls going crazy.
for these dudes and they all have like like it won't put like they all do they all have like wet
hair at all times and like they can just fucking they're like cartoon characters i don't know and we're
doing we're doing i mean dave's like doing something with them so it should be really interesting
because dave is not part i mean dave is not part of that world at all i mean at all i don't we were
with them for four hours yesterday and we didn't understand a word they said it's not a word
investing and stuff like oh you got to get into this capital gains like bro you're 12 like what are you
talking about but then like you look at this fucking bank account it's like you got like 40 million dollars
it's just like crazy i don't know it's crazy i don't know how it works so yeah uh well i hope you
you survive frankie because i don't you don't strike me as someone who's kind of cut from that cloth
no none of us are but you know you're you're blending in with your couch like i said so
more color as the show goes on. Did you
bring up an orange square
behind you? Is that what's going on? I swear.
Because you do
look like you have
some more nutrition in your body.
Well, I'm leaning closer to the screen. I feel like
when I'm back here, I'm whitewashed. Yeah, you are.
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Long story short, iron covers are not coming back.
They're not making a resurgence.
You can't have iron.
I mean, I know you guys touched on it.
Whenever someone wants to be like, you stink a golf, go put your iron covers off.
You can't be so out of touch with reality and not understanding.
that that is the thing you can't do to put on iron covers.
Like I feel like you have to buy your set of clubs from Dick's sporting goods
and just like not even know what the world is about to keep iron covers on your fucking irons.
I don't know.
I just think like it's almost like if you saw iron covers out there at this point in the year 2020
with how many memes and mean things that are said about iron covers,
you're doing it to troll people.
Like there's no way anyone's actually using it unless you're like an old-ass man
that never leaves his like cottage and plays golf in like Ireland.
and like he just likes to keep his irons clean.
So he puts these little things over.
It also, it kind of reminds me of when Bryson won a couple of years ago in Boston
and Johnny Miller was roasting him for having the club cleaner where he had like the little
brush attached to his bag and he called him like, I haven't seen one of those since 15 handicapped
or something was using him where it's like, well, when you're so good, when you're winning
on PGA tour, you're winning on the European tour, you can have anything that we otherwise
would make fun of people for.
and it just doesn't matter because we all know that you're the cream of the crop you're as good as
it get so like you could you could be rocking you can wear a preposterous gear you could be putting
with like two gloves on you can really do whatever the hell you want if you're winning on that
level it doesn't fucking matter whereas like when everyone else is a poser right like anyone else
that plays golf is showing up with that clean slate and you've got this theory in your head that
Like, oh, I got a new swing tip or I got a new swing thought.
Today is going to be my day, baby.
I'm going to break 80.
I'm going to break 90.
I'm going to break 100, whatever that number is.
And I'm going to be the guy today.
I'm going to play good golf.
I got my A outfit on.
Let's go.
I got my Peter Millars.
I'm ready to rock.
But we're always posing.
And when you come in with certain stuff, it's very clear that you're posing and that you're
fake and you're a fraud and we all suck a golf.
Those guys are actually legitimately the only people in the world that are good at it.
So they can just do whatever they want.
If Aaron Rye wants to have head covers, he's got sharpies to tell himself which one is, fine.
Like I think Lee Westwood has fucking the distance that he hits his irons, engraved on his irons.
Like, fine.
You're fucking Lee Westwood.
You do every one.
Us, we're foreplayed.
Like, we suck.
We need to have our gear look as clean and legitimate as possible because no other part of our game does.
That's exactly right.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
That really describes or sums up Bryson D.
DeCampo's entire golf existence.
where people make fun of him for everything.
We make fun of him for everything.
We have in the past.
We probably will continue to in the future.
But if he wins a U.S. Open and continues to win,
there's nothing you can say to him.
He can do it every once.
He can wear his funny hat.
He can do his single-length irons.
He can bulk up, whatever.
You can do it every once.
If you're winning, you can do it every one.
Do you think Bryson would have a completely different public image
if he wore a normal hat?
No, I think it's too much of a weirdo.
Too much of a mad scientist.
It's not just that.
It's his whole being.
It comes out in the way he blinks.
I mean, you ever see the way he talks and, like, it blinks a million miles an hour?
And he's, like, thinking it's like his fucking RAM and his computer chip is just fucking running.
Right.
He can't hide that shit.
I don't care if he wore that thing that Cia wears, like, that singer where it's just a crawler.
Like, he wears that shit on his sleeve, how weird he is.
Right.
the thing that always be mad scientist no matter what the pile of weird things is too large for you
to take one thing off and for everything to change like if he wore a regular hat would be like holy
shit like this dude just a weird dude with a regular hat on yep i agree instead we just said
like he's a weird dude because he wears a weird hat i don't know he's fucking he is uh i and i i
said it a million times on this podcast that like we are on such a crazy roller coaster with this guy
liking them, loving them, hating them, despising him, liking them again.
And the other day when I was in Dallas, I was with Big Cat, we were talking about just like
Brooks and Bryson and all this stuff.
And I was like telling the story of Bryson and like how it's like actually, I really do think
that like the part of my take crew would find what Bryson is doing right now to be hilarious
and like more their brand than they think.
The fact that like he's working out to a level and getting so thick and big and hitting
so far that people are legitimately complaining that he's ruining the game of golf.
Like he's getting the golf nerds is like they call them like the brandy chambies and all the
brandy-chambley things. Like he's making them like short circuit to the fact that like Rory
McRoy one of the greats of our game is like he can't win a US Open like this anymore.
Like it's just it's absolutely crazy what this guy's doing in the game and I think it's very,
very funny. There's a very funny lane to what he's doing and I think like it's the part of my
take route like oh like he's crushing.
too many protein shakes and drinking too.
I mean, he drank like chocolate milk out of the U.S. Open Trophy.
It's like this guy is a full-on fucking cartoon character what he's doing.
He's literally hitting the ball too far for golf.
A hundred percent.
It is, it is on an objective just looking at golf in its entirety and golf culture
and the type of people that represent golf culture for the last 50 years.
It is laugh out loud, funny, how contradictory everything that he is doing is,
to their core beliefs and who they are.
Like they are golf,
country club, tennis club,
like thin,
wear your visors and this little artistry
and traditionalism in the game.
And then here he comes.
He's legit posting videos where he's standing in his room
with his hype team yelling at him
to swing as hard as he possibly can.
And then hitting harder.
And that's in between workout sessions,
which are in between protein shake sessions.
While he's also got the fucking pro tractors, he's got the side saddle putting that was banned.
He's like he's spritzing his ball.
He's doing everything that is counter classic golf culture.
And if he was just a little bit less concerned about being liked, I think he would actually be like.
I agree.
You know?
And not to mention the biggest narrative going into the Masters is Bryson versus Augusta.
What is Augusta going to do?
to stop this guy's role, to stop him from bombing it all over the golf course.
He has pitted himself against all of the, you know, the crusty, buttoned up country club shit.
And you're right.
There's just, he just needs to tweak one or two little things.
And he becomes the most beloved golfer or just outside of the golf sphere.
He becomes one of the most beloved guys to ever play the game.
Yeah, he's also got me saying things like, someone was like, oh, who do you like in Augusta?
I'm like, well, I think Bryson's going to make it look like a mini putt course.
Like he's going to make Augusta look like a puck-puck golf course.
And I can't wait to see it, honestly.
I honestly cannot wait to see him hit it over all the ridges that push the balls into the water and all the crazy.
He's going to be hitting flip wedges into these fucking greens.
I mean, he's legitimately going to, he's going to make a mockery out of Augusta if he plays it the way he played wingfoot.
A mockery.
Yes.
Like, he's the first guy since Tiger in 97, and this is even more so where people are breaking down whole by hole,
how he's going to laugh at Augusta National.
And it has since the minute the last putt drop to the U.S. Open,
there has been, and everyone who follows golf to any degree,
everyone has this picture in their mind of like the entire Augusta National,
all of its members, it's an executive, its championship team,
all got together the second that putt drop.
And it was a panic, war room moment of like, okay,
this fucking villain, this guy, this boge.
Like a hurricane.
They're watching a hurricane move like, uh-oh, they're kicking up warm water from the Atlantic.
It's fucking coming in Augusta.
Dude, fucking like Armageddon was on the other night.
It's like when they're like, okay, this fucking asteroid is now 17 days out.
Here are our options.
Like we can drill and put a nuke inside of them and blow.
Like, what can we do to stop this fucking thing from coming to Augusta National?
And it's awesome.
It is, if he just, like, on 13, right?
part five like is he just going to aim at the green now like that's what people are acting like
he's just going to tee off straight left and hit it on to the fucking green like who knows and it's hilarious
it's great it's so fun to root for and you are right like i'd be curious what big cat said to that
because they've they've obviously put you know they've they've hitched their wagon to the brooks
kepka cart but like or horse well he said at one point you were just like fuck like he was almost
mad at what i was saying
you know, I was like, shit.
Like, he's actually, he's got them riled up like that.
Like, I don't, I don't understand why, like, you know, he's so, he's so unlikable at times.
But fuck, that's, he's like, he literally said, fuck.
And I was like, he's hitting the ball too far for people to, like, comprehend and, like, understand.
And they just won't, they won't let him be the way he wants to, like, he's just dominating the game of golf.
I, aside from Tiger Woods, I'm rooting heavily for Bryson to win the Masters.
Yeah.
I think at this point it is too good of a storyline that he ruined golf, right?
Like this machine with his outrageous cartoon character body that was made in the fucking gym with protein shakes
and like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches has just ruined golf.
That storyline is too good.
So I agree with you.
I'm rooting for him if Tiger or Kevin Kisner can't win, I would say.
Then Bryson DeShambo winning would be the best storyline by fault.
Speaking of Augusta, it's just green now.
It's green.
Do you guys see those new pictures?
Unless I saw outdated ones or ones that weren't real,
people were like, oh, it's now just green
after it was brown two weeks ago.
All right.
So, yeah, we tried to get in contact with those agronomists.
Yeah.
So the guy couldn't, the guy couldn't come on today,
but he sent me a nice message.
I can read this.
So for anyone who doesn't know,
there's this guy that, like, gets a lot of fucking love on Twitter
because he takes, like, photos at the Masters.
he flies this little plane over.
I read it.
I don't know what his fucking name is.
It's the picture that was going viral of Augusta.
And he basically has a prop plane that he flies around.
He has like a camera underneath it.
Essentially, it's just like a more expensive, crazy drone.
Like, I don't understand.
People act like he's the first person ever, like, fly over a golf course.
It's crazy.
I do think that, like, as good as drones are just going to keep getting better.
And at the end of the day, we're going to have a helicopter.
He just, like, has this, like, company that, like, he does this innovative thing
where he flies over golf courses and captures, like, an aerial view of,
the golf course and I don't know I just like I bought one at best buy like recently so it's like it's
not that big of a deal so anyway um so this guy flew over and he I mean he takes photos like which
I guess people are afraid to take like no one ever sees I guess there's there's probably like no
flies on around in Augusta you would imagine because there are people would fly drones over it all
time so I don't know how this guy gets that so hats off to him on that anyway so I think secret
service is just yeah she took down like anti-fucking missile uh aircraft
shit.
So,
I was like,
Hey, man,
can you come on
this fucking show
and we need to
talk about this
grass just turning
green in a week?
He's like, sorry,
I'm saying
can't do it tonight,
but this,
I'm reading this
for the first time,
so if he says
something mean to me
within this,
like,
I haven't had a chance
to prove read it.
Are you also,
are you,
um,
Rod Mergini?
Like,
you're not going to be able to stop.
No,
I won't be able to stop.
Um,
ultimately,
the overseeding process
at Augusta does,
it's similar.
Oh,
what they do at Augusta
with overseating is similar to what many of the courses do in parts of the southeast and desert
southwest the bermuda goes dormant turns brown he needed to dumb that down for me he actually
put it in parentheses explain to me like i'm five the bermuda goes dormant and then he wrote
parentheses turns brown um like that shit stain that comes out of your fucking wed shot wedgates
basically he said um that bermuda goes dormant turns brown during cold weather the common
process is to put is to scalp the turf down vertical moe
drop rye seed, rye grass seed, apply starter fertilizer and water.
The grass usually germinates in a week.
That's why the two images taken apart in a week are so different.
Many courses in the southeast, pinehurst, for instance, do not overseen.
They apply a pigment of paint to provide the color for all winter.
Yikes, I don't like that.
Augusta really isn't doing much different than what they do every other year with the overseed.
However, they have much less time between the overseed and the overseed.
the tournament so that's obviously more pressure.
They appeared to get a good catch of seed
based on the images of what I've seen and that
is good. If they got a heavy
rains before the sea germinated, they would have
had to reseed large areas again
which have only added immensely
more pressure. Wow, what a
breakdown. Wow.
That's so what's legit. That stuff just takes
10 days. I mean, it's
but like, it's crazy
that it's crazy, crazy,
that it's not what I
like, I don't like the fact that
It's not the paint.
Like I thought that they always painted the grass.
That makes me think even more and how crazy these people are to just like accept,
except nature and like just to hope that this thing turns green.
I thought for sure that they would do with like what he said,
what every other golf course does.
And they apply different pigments and colors to the seeding and they make it green.
It's fucking crazy that turns that green that fast.
I mean, it's fucking luscious green from those pictures.
But they have to like legitimately change the grass of the course every year.
Like they just change.
have to have an insane budget to just change.
Like, I know that they do that in Arizona, but those courses, like, that's why people
go to Arizona is to play that golf.
So the fact that they just are going to change the grass of the entire golf course is insane.
Right.
To reiterate, he says the common process at Augusta is to scalp the turf down completely,
vertical mow it, drop rye seed grass.
I cannot fucking say that correctly.
Rye grass tea, drop rye grass seed, apply starter fertilizer and water,
and essentially start all over.
Yeah, it's like they're building a brand new golf course.
It's like they're just starting from scratch.
They scalp it and then put in new grass.
It's crazy, God.
But yeah, also, do you also see the pictures of Augusta covered in snow?
Yes.
Those pictures made my balls tingle.
I mean, I love Christmas as it is.
But when it's covered in snow, those are real pictures?
Yeah.
I studied them to make sure they were real, not that I would be able to do that.
But I don't know.
Has it ever fucking snowed that hard down there?
Yeah, because they lost one of the trees because of an ice storm one year.
I think that's how the Eisenhower tree died.
But those pictures, it, like that little warm inside but cold out, like outer shell feeling that you get in your body around Christmas time, that's what I got when I saw those photos.
Running down the fucking stairs.
Papa!
Papa!
Santa Claus came, Papa.
That is, actually, I'm a third.
31 year old man, but that type of scenery still makes me feel that way.
Yeah.
We're going to miss that whole thing this year with fucking COVID.
Like Christmas in New York and all that stuff?
Dead.
Crazy.
We're going to have to do it on our own.
I'm going to have to fucking do a little light ceremony in my house or something.
Back.
Holy hell, what a trip that was.
Oh, thank God.
Let's go.
Oh, Frankie.
You get sunburn?
No, I'm just under a light right now.
Frankie, you don't always,
Frankie,
you don't always put lights up in your house?
Oh,
I do.
I meant like I want to make an event.
I see.
What kind of event?
What do you mean in an event?
Like Rockefeller Saturdays,
I think it's like canceled,
right?
So like they're just not going to,
they're not going to do that.
So maybe I'll like throw on fucking Charlie Brown,
put on a nice little fucking sweater vest
and like get the family around,
count down from 10.
Like,
all right,
holding fucking coffee mugs.
Turn your driveway into,
uh,
into an ice skating rink.
Yeah,
maybe I'll do that.
I just like, I like that whole scene.
I like, as crazy as is, I like walking by, like, the fucking stores, like the windows
looking.
People usually, like, rag on that stuff.
But I do think it's crazy that people travel to New York just to look into Macy's windows.
Like, they just put, like, a couple of little characters in the windows.
I think that's insane.
But I just like the feeling of, like, oh, yeah, it's Christmas time.
I like Christmas music coming on.
I hate, hate, hate, hate when it's not, when it's a warm Christmas.
Despise it.
Give me all this, no.
What Christmas is with me?
I want white Christmas.
I want it to start snowing in November when I start hearing that fucking music.
And I know that makes it for like a worse commute and worse life.
And like a lot of things go downhill when like a lot of snow comes.
But there's no worse feeling than like December 23rd.
And it's just like 61 degrees out.
And like you look outside.
It's just like green grass.
They're like, come on.
This is fucking.
I think the city is the prettiest in the winter for sure.
And I don't have the things that close.
And a rainy, a rainy Christmas is the most depressing start of the years.
potentially had. Just that like, you know, that like Mid-Atlantic, like, Long Island, Jersey, like,
rain. It is horrible way to start being. Watching on the ground. Yeah. Or maybe you had, like,
a dusting of, like, one inch of snow and there was hope that, like, maybe you're going to get a
little bit more snow, and it's just rain. And then the snow fades away. Yeah, it's ugly.
Disgusting. Another part of, you know, New York just being kind of gross. Okay.
read shout out to mel reed on the l pga tour really really emotional story where her i believe it was about
eight years ago where her mother passed away in a car accident she's talked about how that affected her
in an awful way obviously and has persevered since then and now gotten her first win on the l pga tour so big
shout out to her incredibly popular by all accounts you can tell a lot of the other players out there were
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All right, boys.
We're going to rip through some of these.
We had some good submissions.
Foreplay at barcelports.com.
Make the title, the subject from the gallery.
And if it's short enough, I will read it.
And if it's good enough, it will make its way on to the show.
Shack.
This guy's name apparently is Shack.
Still, Neil?
I don't know his full name.
I just know that he signed it, Shaq.
How great would it be if we found out that Shaq Kiel Neal was just a huge fan of the show.
So much so they.
Yeah.
Not even, never said anything, never tweeted about it, never put on Instagram, but he's just like, boy, I got this burning golf question that I need to answer.
And I'm just going to send it to the foreplay boys.
I'd love for them to discuss my thought.
This would be great.
I wonder who the biggest, like, who do you think the biggest closet, like the biggest celebrity closet or play listener,
or composite.
Shack.
Shack.
It's got to be Shack.
It's got to be Shack.
I mean, from here on now, we just assume that Shack listens to the show.
That's what we're doing.
That'd be, yeah, I agree.
I agree.
Shack's just a fool by the other.
Yeah, but he's like, common knowledge.
I agree that that would be absolutely insane.
But, like, I'm almost thinking, like, he's in media.
Like, I feel like you probably does listen to a podcast.
Like, to talk to me about the most, like, stunning person in the world to listen to our show.
It would have to be someone that you wouldn't even know.
know that like life on the internet exists or something i'm trying to think Vladimir Putin i would
say yeah exactly right like or like i'm thinking of like an old rock star or something like fucking
i don't know i don't know i'm sticking with shack i get that he's in the media world but
if we just figured out that that shack was was big on the show that would be hilarious
Jack, who may have not be, you know, former NBA star, we're not really sure.
He says, do you think you've already shot your career low?
No, but maybe.
I mean, my answer is very, I have so much room for improvement in my game that my answer is absolutely no.
So I will leave before you guys.
Yeah, Trent, you have the easiest answer.
You're an absolute no.
I think you're going to shoot.
I think you're going to break 90 in the next year.
I have no doubt about that.
The other three of us, I think it's pretty close.
I think that I've definitely already reached my peak of,
I'll never, I'll never obtain my handicap warp or the way I was playing when I was in high school.
Like I was playing so much better golf.
I had a totally different swing.
I wasn't so fast and erratic.
I had like a 39.1, nine hole average.
I was shooting like 76 to 77s, like playing really good golf courses like the creek and fucking all these places on Long Island.
I was fucking playing golf.
I was cadding every day.
I'll never, ever, ever, ever get that level.
Too mental.
We have this fucking thing.
Frankie, what's your love?
76.
Okay.
And I've, like, gone back and forth.
I could have sworn I went below that when high school once, like a 74 at eyes
an hour red with my dad, but I don't like remember it.
I've said that before.
I've said I was just seven four.
Never even come close to par.
Like, I could see you.
I could see you break in 76, Frankie.
Yeah, I mean, I came pretty close to.
this fucking
this year
I mean I won't
at Rockville Links
I was
but it's also
a very short golf course
very strong
I was dialed in
I mean I shot
I was even par
on like the front
I was like
fucking rolling
and I ended up like
making five bogeys
like I was fucking dialed
I think I shot 77
my hair won't go down
I'm just trying to mat it down
it's like a wall
across my face
I'm just like
you're saying
back to out
like you need to be
somewhat consistent
to be able to shoot death
like I can't just
come out now
like I was pretty
damn consistent
for like
a three week, four week period here on Long Island this year.
Because, like, we were just playing a lot.
Like, right when, like, COVID kind of hit and, like, golf was the only thing you can do.
And then, yeah, high school, I just was, I don't know, I'll just never get back to that,
like, free reign of, like, my swing.
I think you'll break 76 to tighten it up for you.
I think you'll break 76, and Trent will definitely break as well.
I don't know.
If your county mine is 73, I think I'll shoot 72 somewhere.
wearing my life because I today I played great a shot 75 and I felt like I could have like I
played the first I think I think and you want to hear you want to hear a fucking hot take I think
that you have a chance of like breaking 70 one time I think that you are you get so hot on the
golf course that it could happen I've seen you go below par for long stretches of golf and if you
just like kept that up another hour you would have like in Australia you had a chance to shoot like a 69
I know.
A legitimate chance.
You're like four under at one point.
Like something crazy.
Just kept making birdies.
Yeah, you get so hot with your irons that like you, you can go low.
And you hit your long irons so well that on most courses, like if you hit, if you're, you can get a drive.
Like, you can just burty easily every par five.
And then you're already four under.
And it's like if you just don't make any mistakes.
So I think you'll definitely shoot lower than 73.
point. I hope so. To say that I won't is super deflated in my life right now. Just to be like,
I'll never shoot better than what I've already done. To admit that makes me never want to pick
up a golf club again. So I'm just not going to admit that, even though it's going to be really
tough to do. Like today, yeah, I played the first three hole, first two holes at three over par,
and I ended up shooting three over par on the day. So I played the next 16 holes even par.
right
and like you can't be so pathetic with your mistake
you make such pathetic mistakes
thank you Frankie
pathetic mistakes
right your mistakes are so perfect
I am pathetic
I'm pathetic like
when I make mistakes
it's like I'm shooting 110
like I'm just off the rails
you make mistakes that like drive me crazy
like you'll be even par
and then you'll like come out
and like with this outrageously
ridiculously hard swing
and you'll fucking push one out
all the way out, like out of bounds.
And then on a put, you'll miss like a three foot, two foot straight put
because you just push it or like pull it.
Like you don't even come close.
You don't sniff the hole.
You make like big mistakes.
Like you don't make the little ones.
So we were up in Newport this week and we played.
And I was hitting the ball great all weekend.
I went 80, 75, back to back days.
And my partner yesterday, great dude.
At one point he looked at me and goes,
just get your first put within Anthony Davis of the hole.
I could not get the ball within six to seven feet of the pin.
So I was just three putting every green.
First ball, three putt, second hole, three putt.
Just I couldn't even see that he was so pissed with me that on the seventh
hall, I was like, all right, I'm going to turn this thing around.
And I told him, I was like, I'm just going to hit it close.
And then I won't have to worry about putting.
I literally stuffed the wedge to a foot and a half.
I missed, it didn't even lip out.
I pulled the putt so badly.
I didn't even, it wasn't even close to going in.
A foot and a half?
Foot and a half.
It was a 116-yard wedge, stuffed it to a foot and a half.
And I, I mean, I, it was, it was maybe the worst pot I've ever put together on the call.
You might be pound for pound the worst putter I think I've ever met.
I mean, pound for pound for sure.
Maybe our good friend, Shaq.
Shaq could be else there would make shit.
Let us know, Shaq.
Shack, how's your putting?
Let us know.
Right in.
Maybe calling.
He's from the gallery.
I said it.
I think, I guess by pound for pound, I meant, like, per golf talent,
skill level.
Like, I don't know someone that hits the ball as well as you do who, like, who's as good
at golf as you are and as bad at putting as you are.
Like, how did you shoot 75?
You can't get the ball within seven feet of the cup once at Tom and Greek.
Today, I just had one of those days that I hit, like, most,
if not all of the greens and regulation.
Like after the second hole,
I was just,
I was just hitting it to 12 to 15 feet every hole.
Right.
And like, I was just on it, on it, on it.
Like one, on the,
some hole I made a mistake and kind of pushed a drive out right.
And I had like 2.10 into the fan.
And I just ripped a four iron just like right at it.
Like that shot that you're just like,
that's tremendous.
and it was like 17 feet.
And I was like,
this is a lot of fun.
But, yeah.
I think you'll break,
you'll break 73.
I think you'll break 70.
I hope so.
I'm not admitting that I won't.
I know I make, quote, unquote, pathetic mistakes,
as Frankie says,
and I do make some bad mistakes,
but I'm definitely not going to admit
that I'm not going to be better at this game in my life.
I would say it's probably unlikely that I'll ever,
shoot lower than I've shot before.
Yeah, you're right there though, too.
Your short game is so good.
72.
I shot 72 at Friars Head.
And what I would say is that when you almost every round of golf,
you always can go back and think about how many shots you left out there.
Like my round at 72, my round at Fires where I shot 72 is like,
I don't know that I left any shot at there.
It was like I think I got the most I could have possibly gotten out of it.
And it just went right.
Like I duck hooked one into the trees on 18 hit a provisional ball way right that we weren't going to find.
And then we get up there in my first ball is in the left side of the fairway.
And I made par and shot 72.
So it was like everything just went right.
It's true.
I don't know.
I don't know how I could do that.
Like, when this week or this year, a month ago, I shot 74.
And it was literally like everything like I like the course left shots out there against me.
The course is kicking itself being like, how the fuck do we let him get away with it?
It's insane.
There's no way.
So I don't know that I could shoot or ever will shoot lower.
I would say it's very unlikely.
I think I'm the least likely on the show to have not shot his career low already.
I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe you're right.
But God, your short game is good.
Like, it's, I don't know.
I hope we all do.
I think, 100%.
I think Frankie's two.
I'm three and your four in terms of chances and probability to break it.
Good question, Jack.
Thanks for writing in.
Appreciate it.
You were great on the magic.
You were four titles.
Boy, that's really quite an accomplishment.
You're a real competitor.
Thank you for sending in that email.
That was great.
Okay, we've got Ethan.
Ethan says, when you have a gimmee putt, someone says it's good, but for whatever reason,
you put it anyways and miss.
Do you then count your score as it would have been with the gimmee,
or do you now have to put it out and count your actual score?
How do you proceed from that?
mine's just about if I'm putting together a round and somebody says it's good for like four and a half or five feet,
I'll put it and try to make it and take it for whatever it is.
And if someone says it's good, I'll just take this, like I'll just take that score for sure,
unless I have a round going.
That's the only time that I won't take the score.
Yeah.
Whatever you give me, I'm taking and I'm running to the cart with it, but if I want to hit the put, like I'll hit the put.
And also it's like that classic move where.
Like, that's good.
And then you put it and miss it.
You're like, ah, well, yeah, that was good.
Totally.
I wasn't really trying anyway.
Like, yeah, yeah, no.
Good, right?
Good, right?
Everyone's chuckling.
Like, and then you got to make the vibe out of nicer.
The guy's like, oh, I told you it was good.
Well, then you get to the cart and your buddy, like, everybody's laughing at you.
And, like, you might have made a horrible effort on the put.
And they're like, yeah, Frank, like, what do you want there?
And then you have to do this self-admit of like, am I going to take that for?
Or is it like,
everybody in their mother knows it's a five but then you still look and bend the eyes and be like
that was a four that's a four i hate the guy who says what do you want there like well aren't you
fucking worry about your own shit going on your own life like you're fucking you got a lot of shit
going on like don't you fucking worry about your own self what do you want there what are you
nuts don't fucking what else is like what do you what are you fucking crazy i'll smack that out of
your mouth right don't put me in that position don't don't don't
Ridicule me in front of my friends.
Yeah.
They're talking about me.
My brother and his boys have played before where if you are given a putt and then you decide to put it anyways and miss it, it's good.
But you're now on probation for the rest of the round, which means you have to put everything out.
Oh, that's awful.
So, like, if you're shanking balls, you have to finish the hole?
No, just like you can't.
There's no more gimmies for you, the rest of the thing.
Okay, got it, got it, got it.
Okay. Okay, I like that.
That's kind of torquered.
That's on probation.
It's like, no, no.
We gave that putt to you.
You, like an asshole, decided to step up and putt it anyways.
Then you miss, and if you want us to count that as being good, fine, but you're on probation
the rest of the rest of the room.
I think I like that.
Frankie's not going to like that.
Frankie just got up and laughed that rabbit.
My laptop's going to die.
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He said who on the podcast would win if you could only use one arm in an 18-hole match?
What?
You only get to use one arm for the entire match.
You choose which arm it is, and you play one-armed the entire match who would win.
Are you committed to the one-arm or can you switch arms?
interesting question of you i'm going to say it's not going to matter either way but i want to i want
to you know get a baseline here before we get into it i'm going to say lurch because he's the only one
with any like legitimate physical like the most physical strength and physical talent so i just
think his ability to just manhandle a club with his lurchiness would be significantly trumping the
rest of us and second would be trint because the two of you just have more general strength than me and
Interesting for me because, well, I'm also pathetic and scrawny and...
Can you pick up the club with one arm?
Barely.
I would actually have to get...
I'd actually have to get righty clubs, as interesting as that is, because I am right-hand
dominant.
I don't think I'd be able to get the ball far enough by doing, like, the front-hand swing.
I'd have to club it.
Like, are you playing fucking...
What's like a game?
Like, isn't it like an Irish game?
Oh, hurling.
Hurling, right?
Like, I'd have to just, like, fucking go at it and, like, fucking club it.
Like, right hand across my body.
The right hand is swing with my right hand.
I think everyone in this group would have to swing with their right hand, right?
Like, no one would swing with their left.
No.
You'd get no distance.
I mean, nobody would break 150.
It would be seven hours of the most painful golf you've ever seen.
How far do you get the more further than you think?
How far do you think where you are off the teeth?
That's it.
Like, how long do you go?
I think I would play with my left arm only.
Really?
Yeah, I think I would do it.
But it's not going to go anywhere anyway.
I think you have a chance of really, like, ripping one the other way.
Like, I think I could chip pretty well with just my left hand.
Yeah, I think, like, all, like, the touch stuff will actually, like, that's, like, what kids taught me.
But then also kids taught me to chip with, like, my backhand also.
So it's, like, there's different ways.
Hmm.
I think Lurch would win.
Yeah, he would.
Yeah, because it does come down to distance pretty fast.
I think I'd win, but I don't think I'd hit driver.
I think I'd only hit irons.
Oh, no, I'd be slapping iron sideways.
You can't square those things up when you swing on one hand like that.
I can't hit driver all day.
I can't have the two arms.
I think I'd have a much better chance squaring up an iron than I ever would a driver.
And I would definitely use my right hand, not my left hand.
rigs your take on using your left hand is psychotic for a whole round.
Your all-handed arm would get so tired after four holes,
it would be laugh out loud funny of how bad your swings would get.
Think about like a hundred and be like 175 yards out
and trying to take like a seven or six iron or whatever you're going to end up using
and trying to get that ball anywhere with that front hand.
It just wouldn't go like you have to just cool.
You have to fucking whack at it.
Also, also I thought you were going to say after a hundred swings,
He's still using his offhand.
Like you'd finish the round with no arms.
You started this round with one arm.
You'd finish with none.
I'd be.
My arm just fell asleep thinking about how tired it's going to be.
I'd be using my hybrid all day long because it's not as heavy.
It's not like I can square that up nice.
Irons, I wouldn't even have to take my irons out there.
But if I could just slap a hybrid around and use my wedges, I think I'd be all right.
I think I'm at the driving range.
I want to take one of your guys' club and just see how I think I could hit it decently well off
tea with like you're saying a hybrid you tee it up high it's just like basic like athleticism at that
point to just be able to just like lack a ball like i feel like you don't need really any skill of like
attacking it like you just want to advance the ball i think you may be able to do that off a tee pretty
i don't i don't hate riggis's idea of using the left hand as a righty just because they've got that
whipping motion you can whip it pretty good yes thank you otherwise you're going like across your
body like how are you going to coordinate with that thing whereas if you've got your
you're left, you're just kind of like whipping through like that.
I'm almost thinking like, um, um, it is true.
Those guys, like one-handed golfers play with that front arm, which now makes me think
that I've picked the wrong arm.
Dude, I don't think you'd be able to, I don't think you'd be able to bottom out the club
decently at all with your right hand.
Like, you just throw it into the ground the whole time.
And, you know, I was thinking like happy Gilmore style, like driving.
And I think at the other day, accuracy is going to be king as opposed to
distance and I think you have more accuracy control with the whipping arm.
This question does not work for us.
It works for like pro.
Like we can't play with two arms.
What do you think you'd shoot?
Infinity.
I wouldn't finish.
250.
Yeah.
I think the winning score is about 175.
No, I think it's lower than you think.
No way, dude.
No way.
Can't get the ball in the air.
I mean, I think that winning score is no.
better. I think the best guy
you're shooting 165, but right, you're definitely
not breaking 150. So you think like
you'd be below an average of 10
strokes a hole? Yes.
I would not. No chance.
It would be a struggle. It would be the worst
seven hours of my life, I think.
I would hate that. It would
suck. It would suck.
It would not be fun. The par five, you'd shoot
a 15 minimum. Like a
585-yard dog leg.
left over water like it's like like
bunkers like
you're not getting the ball anywhere
you're hitting it sideways you're hitting it 20 yards even when you make
contact like you're not
the course would have to have no carries
if the course had carries it would be
it'd be unplayable it would be
infinity no contact it have
it have to be like Pioneer's number two or
Pioneer's number four one of those courses where you could just
dribble it out there the whole time right
and you're fine or like a links course something like that
but yeah you're right carries we just
and you just wouldn't be able to finish the hole.
Right, you just take infinity and go on the next.
And it'll be a match tie.
Just write the infinity little logo.
And they're even.
No blood on that hole.
Good hall, boys.
Even.
Ryan says, after Kalamorikawa solidified himself as a stud at the PGA championship,
who do you think ends their career with more major championship wins,
Kalamorakawa or Rory Malcoloy?
I came up with these stats that Rory is 31 years old.
and has four majors, and Morikawa is 23 years old and has one major.
I feel bad he's doing this because Morikawa is like basically told me to like fuck off when I put, he's like,
remember in that podcast?
I don't think we talk about where he's like, I kind of got to call you out real quick because
I had that tweet that's like, this guy's going to win all of the majors forever and ever and ever.
And in our interview, he's like, you know, like I don't like when people like put stuff
on like that on expectations.
He doesn't like expectations.
No.
So the fact that we're doing this little segment makes me nervous.
but my answer is going to be, I think it's Kyle Moracow in a landslide.
I think he's going to win 17 majors, no problem.
That guy's just fucking.
He doesn't like expectations, but, I mean,
Mori Cowell is a stone cold killer,
and Rory Macquarie has proven now for, what, five years, six years,
and he just can't get it done.
Yeah, well, I was going to say the question's a little rude to my guy,
Rory, but unfortunately, it's also fair.
He hates us.
We don't know that for a fact yet.
Rory hates you, and he thinks you're gross.
He thinks I'm gross.
was a mean term.
It really, yeah.
No, until, like I said on one of the podcasts.
Oh, Trent likes you and he goes,
ugh.
Until he,
until he hocks a luggy right in my face.
You'll open your mouth.
It really, back to the question,
it really depends on what he does during the stretch
that Roy just got through with zero.
And he's got, let's see, how old's Roy now?
I think he's my age.
31.
He's 31.
Morikawa is two years away from starting that period of his career.
But if he just wins one or two, then he's going to already be on more pace than Rory.
So it's like right now the money's on Carl Morikawa, just because he's such a stud and he's got so much in front of it.
I'm going to say Rory.
Yeah, I'm going to say Rory.
Yeah, same.
It's too hard to win majors.
The short list of people who win four or five majors is like non-existent.
We did it the other day.
there's just nobody wins majors.
Like, it just doesn't happen.
I think Rory wins.
And I think Rory adds, I would say,
I would say one or two more before he's done.
Wow.
See, I was under the belief that I don't think Rory's going to win another one.
And then I think he, I think Rory wins three more.
Wow.
I think Rory gets to seven majors total.
I think he never wins the Masters,
which that's kind of a crazy take because he's been so close.
so many times, but I think that there's so few guys, I think of the numbers five in the history
of golf that have won the career grand slam, that doing that it's just, it's just really hard.
So I think Rory does get hot. I think he wins three more majors, but I don't think that he
ends up winning the Masters. And I think Kalamorakao is going to end up with three or four, maybe.
Like, I know he's a stone cold killer. What he said on the show was eye opening, eye popping,
about his approach and his mentality and how serious he was about it, how mature he was about it,
the fact that he got it done of the PGA, how good of a player he's proven to be.
But he just doesn't have like the X factor weapons, I would say, that Rory had.
Roy just hits the ball a mile and hits it straight.
And he just looks back.
He just Calamo and Cala can't do that.
So not that he hits it short, not that he doesn't hit straight, but I just think Rory's ability.
I think four majors is so many majors.
Like, think about how good Phil is, and he only has five.
So, like, Kawamorkawa's all of a sudden just going to be as good as Rory and Phil are.
Like, I don't know about that.
So I wouldn't hate to be wrong in this situation because I love Kalamorikawa.
I hope he gets to 10.
I think that'd be really cool.
He's an awesome dude.
But I think we're underestimating a little bit what it takes to get the four or five fucking major championship.
Oh, I think you're right when, like, we're probably just acting like they give out major championships.
Halloween candy, but I also think that he has the ability to do it because he's proven that
he's a stone cold killer at the PGA.
I mean, like, I know it's only one-off, but this guy went on a streak where he was in playoffs
leading up to that and losing playoffs, winning playoffs.
I mean, he had a chance to just dominate this year.
I mean, he basically, he had a fantastic, fantastic season, and it's really just, he's
just on the scene right now.
This guy can get bigger.
He can get better.
He can get longer.
He can put better.
Like, he's just starting his career, and he's already at the top.
So to me, it's like, I'm betting on that guy, not the guy who hasn't been able to perform in six years.
But think about, like, Jordan Spett and, like, other guys.
Like, it's so hard to play good, consistent golf at that upper echelon.
Like, he's going to have bad moments in his career where he's, like, you know, going to go a year or two without winning a tournament, let alone a major.
Wouldn't you have bet on Jordan Spath, like, six years ago, five years ago, or no, maybe like four years ago or whatever, that he would, like.
Right.
So, like, right now, I'm just like, the odds are one of these guys are just going to, like, do it.
And we've seen that Morikawa's mental approach seems quite different from Jordan Speefe's.
I get that that's just the comparison, but he seems a little more, his hand is a little steadier than Jordan Speeats, at least at the moment.
It's easy to say that now.
If you, I'm looking at the numbers, if he were to get to five majors, it would be more than Rory, he would be in the top 20.
he would be in the top 20 of most majors won in the history of golf.
So like that is saying he's just going to get there.
It's aggressive.
Now, again, but with his sample size right now, it seems pretty fucking good.
He's only played in a couple of majors and he's won one of it.
Right.
It's pretty fucking impressive.
And on top of that, like you said, like we talk about this game with DJ, with Brooks,
with Rory, with J.T.
how good these guys are.
Like he,
when they,
since the restart,
he was just as good or better
than everyone else.
Like he,
he won multiple events.
One of them was a major.
He lost the playoff at the other one.
Like he just is really,
really,
really good and is going to continue to be that.
But I think we're also like,
Rory has a three major head start right now.
That ain't nothing.
Like, that's a lot.
And what it takes to win those majors is a lot.
So I got to give,
I got to say I think Rory's going to win more overall.
But it'd be cool if it's close.
that means Morcawa is going to get to at least four, probably to five or six.
And Rory would get to that number, and it would be fun to watch the two of them battle it out
because they're both great dudes from everything that we know,
except the fact that Rory H. Trent.
I like that it's now just me specifically.
Like this is me.
Maybe I fanboyed too hard.
I should have played hard to get like the rest of us, and then he would have been more in tune.
He probably thinks some psychotic fan.
Okay, boys.
I think that's all I got.
Anybody have anything additional to add to the show?
I'm trying to figure out how to get in-and-out burger out here.
You can't get seamless Dropbox.
I mean, DoorDash, any of that shit.
You can't fucking, they won't go into In-N-Out.
Uber Eats?
Nope, they will not go into In-N-A.
I don't know why.
I'm trying to get it.
It's right down the road.
I don't think it's even, I think you have to drive in.
I don't have a car.
What do you may have to drive in?
You can't walk into this.
I don't know that it's like open on the inside.
I think it's like drive-through only from what I said.
Just walk around.
Like walk into the drive-through?
Yeah, just walk up to the drive-thru window.
That's illegal, actually.
Or during COVID times, it's illegal?
Just like in general, I believe walking through a drive-thru is illegal.
Take it, you're going to have to take an Uber.
That sounds outrageous.
Well, you can't Jaywalk or you can't just walk down the middle of street.
That's not allowed.
Why would you be able to walk through where cars go?
I feel like that's not a written law.
It's just, hey, don't walk through the drive-thru.
Yeah, there's a difference between illegal and frowned upon.
I would say maybe it's frowned upon,
but illegal feels like somebody's going to come cuff you
for ordering like a two-by-two in-out burger.
Yeah, can I get a frosty too?
I mean, you'll just get tackled.
Like, we got to know something illegal in process over here at the internet.
I'm reading that it's...
I'm reading that it's illegal to walk through a drive-through
because if you get hit by a car,
you could sue the restaurant for not having...
better safety systems.
Okay, but is that, is that, like, is it illegal?
Like, is it in, like, the Constitution?
Is it, like, is that the word?
I'm reading that it is not, it is not illegal.
Boom.
So it's like a, it's like a, a rule, like, you can't fucking.
Don't just red bowl.
Don't pee in the pool.
Like, it's, like, I will say, the person that sues for getting hit by a car in the
drive-thru is a horrible person.
Like, he shouldn't be sued.
Like he is, that person he or she is horrible.
Yeah.
That might be Borrelli tonight.
That could be Mr.
Frankie Borrelli.
LA's a weird place, man.
It's fucking different.
It's very different.
But very cool,
the first time,
like driving being like,
oh,
it's a Hollywood sign.
Like,
I like all that shit.
Yeah.
I mean,
who wouldn't?
I've never seen a Hollywood sign, actually.
Great.
All right.
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for our second show of the week.
Everyone have a great week.
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Hit it hard.
Oh, by the way,
Barcelona Golf Society.
I've been on this fucking trip.
I haven't been able to,
I didn't get to do Saturday,
Sunday, Monday,
but we'll be back.
We'll be hitting that fucking hard,
locked and loaded.
So I don't want people to think
that I just like didn't give our South Society.
We're at like 85,000 members at this point.
We're approaching 100,000 at some point.
We're going to have to do something crazy.
I'm going to have to, like, key in my own mouth if we get $100,000.
I'm going to have to do something fucking wild.
Like, I don't know.
Is that a commitment?
Yeah.
It's not a commitment, but we're going to have to do something nuts.
Like, 100,000 people playing in our little tournaments would be crazy.
How about Shaq's in there, too?
I bet he's playing out of that.
I bet you, Shaq's definitely playing.
No doubt about it.
Jack had a great question.
Should another one, Chuck.
Yeah, do it.
You know what the most random athlete I ever saw today was?
Jared Jeffries, basketball player.
He was like on the Knicks like during that like Eddie Curry team.
I think he was on like the calves.
I think he's been around a while.
I'm sure Jake knows more about him.
But I mean, tall dude.
And like, yeah, he was just like, hey man, Jared Jeffries.
I'm like, yeah, I know that name.
That's an athlete.
That's a basketball player.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
Maybe the most random dude you could possibly think of it.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Hit it hard.
Get it hard.
