Fore Play - Hello Darkness, with Kirk Minihane
Episode Date: October 8, 2019Barstool's pot stirrer and huge golf guy Kirk Minihane joins the show and things become unhinged real fast. We talk Kevin Na's putting antics, when Dave Portnoy will die, how our fall golf games are s...haping up and MUCH more. Oh, and our friend Bryson says he's going to get yoked!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube.
Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music.
We are back.
It is Tuesday.
I know that's tricky because we're talking on Monday to you, but you are listening on Tuesday.
So that trips us up.
We talk about it every show.
What a hell of the show we've got here.
We had Kirk Manhattan here.
He is, of course, one of Barstle's newest content employees.
He's been here for, what, four or five months now?
Yeah.
Here at Barstle Sports.
He's a lightning rod.
He's confrontational.
He loves it.
He's also a huge golf guy.
He had me on his show, which was pre-barstool right before the Masters.
I think I was on Monday, or I'm sorry, I think I was on Wednesday before Tiger Woods won
the Masters that week.
So he's a little bit of a good luck charm.
He loves golf.
He's very funny.
The interview, it gets dark at the end, very dark in a very, very funny way.
You know, we go through golfers that we like.
It's kind of all over the place.
Talk about our golf games.
It's one of my favorite, probably chats.
I know if you call it an interview, more of a chat.
We should kind of chat.
No, because, yeah, we're familiar with him.
It was an hour, like an hour long chat with a guy he does.
He really loves golf.
I walked into the room and, like, I don't know if Andrew or Jake was like, oh, you know,
this interview is going to take whatever 30 minutes.
And they said to Kirk and I was like, are we calling this an interview?
So it was a chat.
It was a chat with our fellow coworker.
A lot of chirp in each other, a lot of roasting.
Well, he's a dark human being.
Yeah, he is.
I mean, so are you?
So perfect fit.
Yeah, no, I'm like, yeah, but I'm hot-headed and go off like, I'll, like, I'll,
I'll spin off the edge of the earth and not be able to...
He is so calculated.
He's an assassin.
Okay.
He's like, he'll sneak up behind you.
He wouldn't get caught for murder.
Frankie would.
Yes.
Correct.
I like that.
He wouldn't,
not only would not get caught,
like he would murder someone and Frankie would go to jail for him.
Yeah.
He'd be a great framer.
He could frame somebody.
He also,
like,
when I said something to him at the very end of that chat,
that like when I said it,
I knew it was going to be one of the most offensive things I've ever said.
And I, like,
he was so good at masking his, like,
response on his face that I thought I offended him.
And then like two seconds later,
it was...
Any pause before you said it?
Like when you thought about the comment?
Yeah, a little.
Small pause.
It was like the darkest.
No, like very offensive.
Like what Frankie said was shockingly offensive.
Yes.
And Kirk loved it.
He like basically a high five, Frank.
That's like where he lives.
I think that's how he wants everybody to be with him.
Yeah.
He just, he loves it.
He just took it and was like, yeah, that's what I live on.
He did.
He drags you down to his level and raises you up, whatever you, whatever your
perspective is and then he loves if you can go up there with him and and punch back and forth he
was great it was really nice out of the now we got lurchy in here uh update on the kitty for the you
word that we're not allowed to say there was one for trent and one for lurch and the the fans the listeners
captured a second late in the show that lurch got fined for i know he has uh an appeal i think
i mean did you see lurchy polls what lurchy polls you're one of the most you're probably one of
Follows on Twitter.
I mean...
Ten seconds ago, you just tweeted that you farted.
I did.
I farted in the bathroom and it smelled like a skunk.
I was actually talking about a pause.
I was like, should I say this?
But it smelled so bad that I was like...
You just thought everyone needed to know?
Yeah.
Why would you tweet that?
I also...
I didn't know you tweeted that.
I also...
He sounded like a mom there.
Anyways.
I had a little pause, but I saw...
Have you guys ever followed or looked at a guy,
um, Paul Blart?
Malk cop.
But there's a...
That's a movie.
A true security guard.
that got fired because he basically just does a selfie of his face and he just farts all day.
I remember that was a story.
Yeah, I remember that one that was going viral a couple of a couple months ago.
So anyways, yeah, maybe I am one of the worst follows on Twitter, you know?
Who knows?
But Lurchy Polls asked the audience under Jake or Andrew, whoever threw me under the bus,
and put it out to the Foreplay account.
Thank you, Joke.
Glad you're an Islander's fan.
You can be miserable with Frankie.
The fans stated that you should have to call it,
show. We're not going to talk hockey.
I know, but this is what the wrong with the
Ranger fans. We're all miserable because you guys don't win either.
Like, you can't say Islander Van's just saying.
Ranger fans don't win. So go ahead.
I like, I like, and stated that you
should have to call it out in show
56.44. I don't like it. That takes the fan
aspect out of it. I like when they like hit us up or like
hey, at this time stamp. I'm still getting hit up
like an hour 12. I've said it.
I love that. Look, here's the
reason that you're absolutely going to be fine for saying it on the show,
whether we catch or not is because the purpose of the rule is not to do it for us while we're doing the show that we don't want to hear you anybody use the U word it's for the listeners back home.
So cutting the U word out in total is better for the listeners back home whether we catch it in show or out of the show.
Point is you have two, Trent has one.
Now I will say I caught myself during the Kirk chat doing at least one.
I know that for a fact.
I remember saying it in real time and thinking fuck I just said it.
So I'm at least one.
Oh, I may have said it too.
I didn't even think of that.
Are we doing that with interviews and chats?
All the time.
Fuck.
My guard was down.
Yeah, my word.
But that's when you, that's, you know, your word.
We got to condition ourselves to do it.
You got to condition yourself.
That's the whole point.
So the U word kitty, we are there.
Supreme Golf.
Supreme Golf is our presenting presenting sponsor for the entire year.
You go to SupremeGoff.com slash Barstle.
It's fall golf time.
Leaves are changing.
It's quarter zip season.
You want to be out there.
you go to maybe sneak out of some public tracks you've never played before.
Go use Supreme Golf to do it.
I use Supreme Golf to play up in Norwalk, Connecticut.
I put a video out last week.
It was called Oak Hills Golf Club.
It was actually a really, really cool layout on the front nine.
Use Supreme Golf to book it.
So go to Supreme Golf.com slash Barstool.
They are the only T-Time app that you need.
And then I also would just like to say that I had a classic Matthew Fitzpatrick's buddy.
I'm back moment playing golf this last weekend,
where I was playing horrible for two rounds beforehand
when Lurch and I went up to Foxwoods
and we won our tournament
despite having one of the better records in the field
I went 0 and 2 and just was not hitting the ball very well
at Foxwoods.
Having said that,
super drunk and hung over the whole time
and there's trouble everywhere.
But I wasn't feeling great about my game.
Went to the range on Saturday before we played
for like a half hour, hit some balls,
had a swing thought, and played lights out.
Shout 77 and some tough wind,
feel really good about my game.
So all I could think about last night
was I was just hanging out in my apartment
I think about I can't wait until the next time I play golf.
And if, like, if Matthew Fitzpatrick was my buddy, I would have texted him.
I'm back.
I'm back.
I'm fucking back.
I'll say right now I'm out.
I can't find the long.
Can't find the game.
Unbelievable.
Yeah.
All right.
Does that count?
Yes.
That's a three quarters of the worst.
You said it in a spot that wasn't like, it's just completely unnecessary.
You didn't need to say that.
Well, just from Scotland where I couldn't miss.
Come back.
Foxwood.
Same deal.
Trouble everywhere.
Hung over.
Tire from the plane.
Just jet lag the whole bit.
Didn't play well.
I think it was like back-to-back high 80s.
Played again this weekend.
And it's just, I'm just missing everything left.
Hit a good drive.
The game's gone.
Yeah, game's gone.
Yeah, no, that happens.
Yep.
I can't wait to say I'm back.
It'll happen.
You want to know who's back?
I don't know if you guys saw this.
I only posted on my Instagram story.
Did you guys see the wedge shot I hit yesterday?
Yes.
Yes.
Holy fuck.
Horrific left turn.
Criminal.
Downhill lie in the rough,
skirt one just over the bunker and just trundles right up there?
There was only one place that that ball could land.
Yes.
Because the green was down into the left slope.
I had the ball fully submerged in some of the thickest rough
around a green I've ever seen.
And I'm like,
I'm just going to flop a potomis this thing right over that fucking bunker.
I'm just going to do it.
I'm going to do what Kevin Kisner taught me
when we were out in Pebble Beach at our mansion.
We were in Carmel, California.
We were sitting in the backyard.
And I was just...
I think I'm wanting to call it Carmel.
I almost did.
Yeah, you tried to.
And I was like, I was hitting wedge shots and he goes, try and, you know, try and come
across this one.
Try and hit a fade with your wedge.
And I was like, what does that even mean?
Like mentally.
It was come across and cut it like a piece of bread.
And I did that and I thought about that.
And this fucking thing was perfect.
So the wedge game is a little bit back boys.
I'm playing.
Did you make the comebacker?
That puck?
Because it looked a little tricky.
It was tricky, but I burned the edge.
Like, I missed it.
I was tapping four.
You didn't say your putting's better, though.
Yeah, but you punted well the rest around.
I'm not going to make everything.
I will say this.
Now, a devil's advocate type approach might be like, well, if that were a tight lie off
fairway, that's where you have the yips.
Whereas when you're in thick rough, you can just like hack at it and take some grass out.
Yeah.
True.
How was your chipping the rest of the day?
It was good, man.
You know what I'm dialed in with right now is like a 65-50-yard range.
I'm like doing this checkdown.
It's an awkward range.
Going it right at the pin, and it's like not going like next to the pin, but it's just like I'm giving myself opportunities to make birdie putts or par putts.
And even if I miss like a par puttuts, a tap and bogey, I'm not making doubles and triples anymore.
The only time I'm making those is when I find myself hitting it OB off the T, which happens like once every like seven holes.
Like I'll be playing it straight.
I'll be playing it maybe left rough.
And then I'll get up to a T.
I align it perfectly.
I'm like, I'm going to fucking drill this.
I'm going to go smash bash on this ball.
And then I just come across it as if like.
My elbow, because I'm a lefty, it says, it's as if my left elbow is attached to, like, my hip and everything just like, it's weird.
I always like, I always reach.
I'll be honest. One out of every seven holes, OB doesn't sound that good.
Dude, and like, it's my one blowup hole, like, on each night.
It doesn't sound that bad.
It's like one blowup hole on each side.
So instead of shooting, like, a 39, I'm shooting a 42.
So, like, this week, I went 44, 41 for an 85.
But, like, on the front nine, I had, like, one and a half blowups.
I had, like, a triple and, like, a double and everything.
was pars.
So I just need to eliminate that.
Eliminate it.
Maybe don't take the driver there.
You know, you need the Hank Haney.
Here's the thing that he says.
The three things at any level of golf, whether you're the best player in the world or whether
you're a 40 handicapped, three things you got to eliminate in golf.
And if you do it, you will dramatically increase your scoring, improve your scoring.
One, penalty strokes.
Just penalty strokes.
You can find a way to not take penalty strokes.
Two is multiple chipping.
So, like, if you're 20 yards off the green, you're in a bunker or whatnot, don't chip
twice.
Just hit the green.
And then the third one is three putts.
If you can eliminate three puts, multiple chipping and penalty strokes, everybody at every
level of the game, your score will dramatically improve.
Which if you think about that, that's not like that crazy, right?
It's like, okay, just don't hit it out of play.
You don't have to try to bomb a drive 400 yards.
Just don't hit it out of play.
And then, okay, this chip, you don't have to like try to like hit a giant flab shot
to an inch.
Just like get it on the green.
And the next one is you're going to have to jam in this 20 footer, just like get it
close to the hole.
You do that all around.
You'll dramatically improve your score.
A funny little moment that happened during this round
I was like, damn.
When you just laid out like that,
it's the easiest game in the world, you know?
Damn.
It reminds me of like,
remember when Michael Breed explained the golf ball thing to us?
That was another thing where I was like,
I'm going to go out there, I'm going to shoot 72.
If I use this ball and I follow Hank Haney's advice,
I'm going to shoot a 72.
It doesn't work that way.
A quick little moment.
I was, we were playing a match at this.
We played Cherry Valley.
It's like my new country club.
Thanks to Matt, who's the assistant pro there.
The guy's just, I was about to say the word, but I didn't.
Good for you.
All right.
The guy's outrageous.
He's just the nicest dude in the world.
Love you, Matt.
Cavs, I play with this guy, Cavs.
He has calves that are built from the gods.
He wore this cardigan.
I also put it on my Instagram story.
What do you guys think about that thing?
These guys wearing a cardigan like, I don't know, like he was at a J.
Crew, you know?
I think at some point you got to pull it off.
It's nice.
I've met Cavs.
We played with him at Cherry Valley.
I played nine holes with him.
He can pull it off.
He's a cool.
enough guy. He's got long flowing hair. He looks like sunshine. But you know when you play in a
match and like, especially if it's a reoccurring match where you play like every couple weeks
or whatever. And you just like, you feel like your partner's just always the one doing everything.
And like I, that's what I like feel like. I'm just riding him. Right. The guy shoots like 60s and
70s and I'm out there like shooting 85. Yesterday, like I was pulling calves along. I was getting
strokes on certain holes. And I was, I was fucking playing golf. And it felt great. No better feeling
than having a put on almost every hole that matters. It mattered. And I, there was one moment. We're
on the back and we're winning we're winning the match and and mattie and my buddy tom are like kind of
coming back you know they're sticking around i hit my drive right down the middle second shot and i'm
getting a stroke on this whole second shot goes into the bunker i'm in the bunker i i duff it out of
the bunker and it goes into like the rough and i see like cask back there like all right we're kind of out of
the hole because he had a bad hole and mattie's like walking up to the green hole pumped like he's
putting for par like probably pretty close or whatever and i'm on the side and i just chip this thing
and it goes in for par net birdie and everyone just throws it like maddie maddie maddie
And Tommy just throw their club.
They're like, what the fuck are we supposed to do?
This guy doesn't even know how to chip.
And he drilled one from 25 feet off.
That's not your day.
It was just my day.
I mean, like, there's no better feeling than walking to that hole.
Picking up that ball and just being, thanks, boys.
We'll take it on the T.
Like, it's our shot now.
Chipping is incredible.
Best feeling.
So good.
It flips everything.
It really does.
I'd rather chip one in than hit like a 50 foot bomb put, I think.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Because 50 foot bomb putts is a pretty fucking good feeling.
But I just think chipping is even.
that much better. I've said my favorite feeling in all of golf, somebody asked, I think it was
from the gallery one time where somebody's like, what's your favorite feeling? Is it like
ripping one like 270 or 280 or whatever right down the middle or is it like draining like a
put? My favorite feeling in all of golf will always be draining a putt, whether it's four feet,
whether it's 10 feet, whether it's 20 feet, that feeling of the ball rolling into the hole is so
final and it's so like it closes the door on the hole. It's like, it's just such a good feeling
rolling that ball into the hole. And chipping is even better. I think it's even better because
you don't expect it.
When you see the ball elevate and then take a balance or two and start rolling, you're like, no way.
Yeah.
Like, I've just accomplished something great.
And then it goes in, complete shot.
In that video of me where I'm tripping, I just put my arms up like I scored a touchdown.
And the ball wasn't even halfway towards the hole yet.
You didn't even get up and down.
I didn't even make it up and down.
I still had two more swings after that until the ball went in.
Oh, golf.
What a game.
We're going to get into headlines.
I would just like to mention a week from today when you guys are all listening to this,
the Barstool Classic Championship, Tuesday, October 15th at Liberty National Golf Club
in Jersey City.
We are going to be posting on Thursday our full 18-hole round.
It was Trent Daddy, Frankie and myself.
We did a skins game, the three of us out at Liberty National.
We played the entire course.
We played the T's that they're going to play from at the Barstall Classic Championship,
which were what, 6,700 or something like that?
I believe so, yeah.
6,800, somewhere around there.
It was a great video of the skins.
They kind of flipped.
There's a huge comeback involved.
The course, there was a beautiful day.
So we have footage that's as good as it gets.
It's gorgeous.
It mixed in with our, you know, us messing with each other, some horrible shots and great shots.
So Thursday, that'll be coming out.
Check that out.
Let's rip through headlines real quick.
I do want to get to this Kirk andry because it's very, very good.
And we went for way longer than we thought.
Kevin Nye wins the Shriners Hospitals for Children Open out in Vegas over Patrick Cantlay.
I tuned into the whole back nine yesterday.
Wild finish. Kevin now triples the 10th hole.
So he's got this large lead.
He had about a four-stroke lead, five-stroke lead at the time.
He's playing great.
Triples the 10th hole.
Really didn't hit that bad.
He hit a horrible T-shot.
Hit like a little runner up there just short and then chipped one off the green with this crazy.
The back part of the green just fell off, ended up making triple.
So these guys are both at the time when I tuned in, they're both like 23 underpart.
Think about how well you're playing to be on a PGA tour golf course.
For four rounds of golf, you're 23 under part.
Now when I tune in, I see the triple.
Then they're on 16.
Kevin Nas, 202 out, hits one in the water.
Totally gives up the lead, two-stroke swing.
Then Patrick Cantley steps up with a nine iron on 17 in the water.
Like, what the fuck is happening?
They both go to 18.
Patrick Cantley hits a put from like 20 feet that I don't know how it didn't go.
And it's breaking in perfect speed somehow misses.
Then they both birdie the first playoff all after watching him like struggle.
Both birdie the first playoff all.
Then Patrick Cantley, three jacks.
He's got a gap wedge.
in again on the second playoff.
He's got a gap wedge in.
He had just hit one to like nine feet with the gap wedge.
Hits a pretty bad like flares one out to the right,
three jacks from there and ends up losing with a three jack.
Kevin now was walking in putts.
He had, so he had this stat was going around all over the place.
558 feet and 11 inches of puts he made over the course of the week,
which included like a 15 or 20 footer on the 71st hole to make par to end up
tying the whole thing going into the 72nd hole.
He putted lights out.
He did his whole walk-in thing on the first playoff hole, like I mentioned, where they just both made birdie.
Patrick Cantway makes like a 10-footer.
And then Kevin, he's got a must-make putt.
It has to go into the tournament's over.
He hits it, and it's a 10-footer, 9-footer, and a halfway to the hole, he just starts walking.
I'm sorry.
Dead center.
I've never seen anything like that in my entire.
He looks so early.
Like, so early.
Makes contact, and he starts to walk.
Doesn't that affect?
Aren't you supposed to, like, stay down on the golf ball and, like, in all?
Doesn't that affect that?
The confidence is that high, though.
I mean, if confidence is key, he's got it to the 10th grade.
How can your confidence be that high when you're, I guess you made, he made 600 feet up.
When guys walk putts in, it's like last second.
Like it's like, oh, whoa, whoa, they got to run it back and you watch it in slow mo.
It's like, oh, he did early walk.
Kevin Nah, he like almost beats the ball to the hole.
Totally.
90% of the time when you walk a put in, it's because gravity has already grabbed the ball
and it's going beneath the surface of the green.
Yeah.
You're like, all right, I can do this.
His ball's five feet out and he's walking the ball.
Or you're doing that like twinkle toe run back, hope it goes in kind of thing and then it misses,
but he just walks right after the time.
And he walks at a time where that ball could easily take a turn.
Totally.
Easily.
Like you said, it could hit a pebble.
It could just stop breaking and like this.
He was the guy Swaggy P on the Lakers that took that.
Now it's a GIF where it's like the SUP and he shoots a bomb from like center court essentially
and he turns around and looks at the crowd and then like the ball just bounces off the rim.
Yep.
Kevin Nause asking for that to happen.
Oh yeah.
He'll have some bad clips come out where he's walking.
one in really early.
But that was pretty cool, though.
That one's pretty cool, though.
Pretty good clip.
Pretty good clip.
According to Justin Ray, who used to be golf channel, I think he's somewhere else now,
who's a big golf statistician.
He said, Kevin now is the first player to win with negative strokes gained T-degree
numbers since the BGA tour started tracking those stats 15 years ago.
Watching these two and basically the playoff format for like seven holes straight because
they were the only two that could win the golf tournament, it was amazing.
Because Patrick Cantley was driving the golf ball like an absolute stallion,
hitting these missiles.
He's got this robotic approach.
He's very boring to watch, but in a way that I'm sure to him is ideal.
He steps up.
He goes through the same routine every time.
Then he just hits a missile down the middle, like 345 yards he hit it on the 70 second hole.
So watching him.
And then you got Kevin Nas slapping it left and right.
Kevin Nas so electric.
Dude, there's some videos where...
The videos that are coming out are so good.
There's some videos where he actually almost picks up the ball before it goes into the hole.
That was the old...
That was the Tigerwood thing at the players.
Yeah.
He might end up getting a penalty for that.
Yeah.
He might grab the ball before it goes into the hole.
Remember when Tiger did it and we were so nervous that he was going to like
throws back out?
Yeah,
look at Tiger's laughing.
Why are you doing that fast?
Everybody,
having a good time.
You get a tiger always real quick.
I saw Jimmy Fallon post a picture yesterday.
Yes.
Did you see that?
Yes.
What the fuck was that about?
I'm still confused by it.
No.
I mean picture.
There's been videos coming out of the two of them playing.
Oh, I missed the video.
Yeah, yeah.
They did a video together.
Has it come out?
Yes.
The picture, though, of them leaping together?
Could a tiger doesn't even.
No, he should never be leaping like that ever, especially with Jimmy.
Like, he should never be leaping like that connecting with anyone in the air.
Like, it's the most athletic thing I've seen Tiger do in a long time.
I hated every minute of it.
Every second.
What are you doing, Tiger?
Like, the last thing we need.
What did Jimmy Fallon's Instagram if you don't know what I'm talking about?
And obviously there's a video, which I didn't know about.
Yeah.
There's a picture of Tiger, like, his back is scrunch and he's happier than he was when he won the mess.
Like, by a long shot.
I'm upset by everything I saw between him and Jimmy Fallon.
Tiger, it's October.
He looks like a little...
Sit on the couch.
Maybe stretch.
You can tweak her back easily.
Maybe stretch.
I saw him like running and spinning around.
Me too.
Yeah, yeah.
Where is that?
Frankie, you're going to hate it when you see it.
He's doing like a helicopter down.
He's doing like a helicopter down the fairway at Liberty and Ash.
It's incredible.
Good thing.
It's not live.
Live would be terrifying.
Oh, it's a whole thing.
It's a two minute video.
Yeah, it's a whole thing.
All right.
They did a whole buffet of bits together.
Yeah, playing the same golf course we just played.
Like, yeah.
Correct.
Anyways.
Kevin Nah.
Emotional interview afterwards.
We actually get into it quite a bit with Kirk Minahan in a very, very funny way.
So I don't want to double cover it.
We go through the interview, the Korean, the hug with Chantelle McCabe, all that good stuff.
We talk about in the Kirkmanahan chat.
Brooks Kevka missed the cut and then promptly just was partying all over the place in Las Vegas.
Smart.
All over the place.
Him and Jenna Sims, his girl.
They're posting.
They're going out, this, that.
Brooks Kevka couldn't possibly have cared less about missing the cut.
Do you guys see that?
Yeah.
I didn't.
I saw news about Chase Kepka.
What did you see about him?
I think he made the cut.
I saw headlines up by him as well.
Made a couple.
Yeah, I don't know.
That's all I got.
And then Brooks, what, he partied in Vegas.
Party in Vegas.
Bryson Yishambeau says he's going to get jacked.
He said, I'm going to come back next year and look like a different person.
You're going to see some pretty big changes in my body, which is going to be a good thing, going to be hitting it a lot further.
It said they asked them to expand a little bit more.
He said, I'm going to be bigger, way stronger, just stronger in general.
I'm going to look probably a lot bigger, but it's going to be a fun month and a half off.
I've never been able to do this, and I'm going to do things that are going to be a lot of fun.
He's a big guy already.
He's a huge guy already.
He's a sneaky house.
That's a great way to describe it.
When we first met him and I've met him since, every time I see him, I'm like, you're like a linebacker.
And now that he says he's going to get even bigger.
What does he mean like you're going to see a difference?
I think he's going to be like gun show.
But he's already stocky.
Like how much more are we going to see?
He's a big boy.
He's also,
he's only got a month and a half.
What are you?
Good point.
Steroids.
That's what we're doing.
I've got years.
I'm not going to be,
I'm not going to look any different ever.
This is just like what I'm,
I hope I maintain.
What is he said?
Doey ex-athlet.
And I'm going to,
I'm going to go do things that are going to be a lot of fun.
I don't know what that means.
No.
Nor to see you really.
Yeah, that seems like a weird way to end this.
What are you doing?
Coke?
Like, what do you mean?
what do you what do you talk bigger way stronger just stronger in general and i'm going to go do
do things that are going to be a lot of fun to do like lift rocks above his head he's like look how
much stronger i am he'll lift cars he also went on he was he was describing theracidum kind of uh he's
going to denver he's got this guy that he works with where that's where that's where he did the altitude
stuff at one point he said we make sure that the neurological threshold is just as high as the
mechanical threshold in layman's terms pretty much whatever muscle potentially you have how big and
the muscle spindle's
you have, you can recruit every single one of them to their full potential throughout the
range, the whole range and training, the whole range of motion.
What are you talking about, man?
Just don't understand.
Point is, like, hitting the bench, like, does hitting, like, bench presses and bicep curls
really translate to hitting them all further?
I don't think it hurts.
At their level, you think it makes more of a difference?
Like, for me, I feel like it's all in the swing for amateur golfers.
Like, that's just, like, where you get distance and don't get distance.
I do, but I think when you have, like, a mechanically sound swing, then your muscles
being bigger and stronger, probably only her helps.
However, a lot of people, Brandel and those guys included have for a long time argued that, like,
it hurts your flexibility and increases your injury rate and this and that, and that actually
hurts you.
Sergio pounds the ball with his irons, and he just got tremendous lag, but I wouldn't say
he's a big boy at all.
No.
Yeah, Brandl gets furious every time Roy's in the gym.
He just can't stand it.
He gets absolutely furious.
Bryson tied for fourth in Vegas, so it's not like he had a bad showing.
on average, a burglary happens once every 23 seconds in the United States of America.
Approximately 2 million burglaries.
I very much struggle with that word.
I reported a year.
Two million.
You do well with the word for how hard it is, because I would say it wrong every time.
I sound it out in my head as I go through it.
Burglaries.
Burglaries.
But I think if you really study, you would notice that I say that word slower than I say most words because I have to really.
Yeah.
It's a tough one.
Tiptoe through it.
Real tough.
83% of burglarers.
Damn.
83% of burglars
admitted that they specifically
look to see if there's an alarm.
What's crazy is that only one
and five homes have home security.
Maybe because most companies
really do not make it easy.
You know who makes it easy?
Simply Save.
Simply Save has been keeping my family safe
in a simple manner for a very long time.
Simply Save protects every door, window, and room
with 24-7 professional monitoring.
They make it easy.
There's no contract, hidden fees, or fine print.
It's won a lot of awards
from CNET to the New York Times wire cutter.
Price is always fair and honest.
Around the clock monitoring is just $15 a month.
One thing that truly makes SimplySafe stand out is their video verification technology.
When other home security systems are triggered, a lot of the time, police assume it's a false alarm,
and the call goes to the bottom of the list.
That seems like a horrible thing to happen.
But not with Simply Save.
Using their video verification technology, they're able to visually confirm that the break-in is happening,
allowing police to get to the scene 3.5 times faster than other homes.
security companies. That's a lot faster. Our listeners, that's you guys. Simply safe. They're doing a huge
deal. It's going on right now. You go to simply safe.com slash foreplay. You're going to get free shipping
and a money back guarantee. That's simply safe.com slash for play today. Simply save is spelled.
S-I-M-P-L-I-S-A-F-E dot com slash foreplay. Okay. We are back. Phil Miclson hitting the driver
out of Bush. We talk about that with Kirkmanahan so we can check that off the list.
John Rom, that's Psychopath, won on the European tour.
He backed up his Spanish Open title in Madrid, won by five shots.
This is very similar to the Nelly Korda thing,
when she hung around after the Solheim Cup and played like a European tour event,
and there's just such a big difference in the skill level that I feel like if John Rom just goes over there,
like he's just going to him.
He won by five shots, and when I looked, he looked like rattled the whole time.
I mean, did he ever look comfortable?
You ever look to him and have been like, oh, he's so good.
comfortable.
He's cruising.
Yeah.
Oh, he's making this look easy.
Oh, he looks relaxed.
Yeah.
No way.
I also saw media outlets running with Rambo, which I don't love.
Robbo?
That kind of like that.
For the nickname.
It just, it doesn't hit the way it should.
It hit me.
I looked up and went, ooh.
Yeah.
He's not my Rambos, the thing.
That's why it doesn't jive.
I wanted to run that by you guys just to see how we all felt about it because I don't
love it.
No.
I don't know what the alternative is.
I'm out on Rambo.
You like it, Frank?
I'm not going to jump all in Romb is not my Rambo.
I'm just saying that when you said Rombo, I looked up and went,
that's a telltale sign in terms of a nickname.
Well, I like the name.
It's just not for him.
But he is an intense guy.
He is.
But it kind of fits.
I don't know.
It's almost too good of a name for him.
You think so?
Yeah, like he, I don't know.
He's too, like, dumpy and goofy and a psychopath to have like a cool name like Rombo.
God, Rambo is such a good name.
Yeah, see, it's great.
I just like Rommer.
Romer.
That's what I call him.
I just, Rambo hits me the wrong way.
I don't know.
But he, he'll hit you the wrong way.
Yes.
He'll punch me right.
He'll lose his mind.
He'll be right way in his mind.
It'll be not feel good.
I'll be dead.
You'll be a done person.
You'll be canceled.
He gets those hips behind it.
You're in trouble.
He's up to number four in the world.
Rombo is.
I think we're calling him Rambo.
Okay.
I mean, he's a stud, no doubt about it.
The first time Rambo has been ranked inside the top four since June 2018.
Man, he is, he is.
for whatever reason he kind of felt like after he just had his mental breakdown at the player's championship earlier this year that he was like that that could set him back forever and I think that will hold him back is like clearly he can go over and just destroy people in Spain no problem fine he's one of the best players in the world but the fact that he's up to number four in the world pretty surprising number good for him he's a great player and he's also one of those guys he's got a short swing I love that that makes me feel good he's got that short back swing so if he can do it makes you feel you might be able to do it so I kind of
root for that. But Rombo, up the number four, dominate everybody one by five over at the Spanish
Open de Espana.
I do love that he got like a mental health coach that was an ex-bombed future.
Yes, that's always a great story.
That's so, the synergy there is just perfect.
That'll be one of the great.
He explodes, the coach he needs to coach his brain perfectly.
One of the great anecdotes.
Some guy that used to diffuse bombs.
One of the great anecdotes.
I mean, his brain is a bomb.
It is.
Clearly that guy needs to work on.
Real.
No, at least he knows what he's got a little talent gap with.
It was right after the day, like, broke that story that he then just collapsed.
Real violence in the air when he gets mad.
It's like, I think they should.
Do you picture them like sitting him down in a chair and like a room that has like a ton of lighting in it?
Like I'm picturing like a Game of Thrones type like hall and like, you know, a lot of lightings coming through.
But it's like misty and dark in the backgrounds.
And he's sitting in a chair locked up.
they're just replaying all of his missed shots and him hitting it in the water and like him wanting
to snap a club over his knee and then like as either he's watching this the bomb diffuser slowly
walking around him just like staring at his head like what can I do in there like how am I going
to diffuse this that's that's literally what I picture happening on like a Wednesday night right
before the tournament sorry to get all descriptive that was a pretty good description I liked it I think
that's accurate and I don't think he's made much progress I'm kind of the same way except I just
picture like them like running like like like a little bit of like electricity through his fingers
and trying to figure out what really makes him tick oh you hit so you hook his head exactly yeah and then
they're trying to understand and trying to back you know back it up from there and understand like what
makes him go what makes him right before he loses his mind what happens i like it we got to correct
that what does he see they're never a little teaser they're never gonna be able to correct it
never good tease shyan knight wins first win on the l pGA tour um
at the Volunteers of America Classic in Texas,
22-year-old rookie, claimed her first title.
The story here, this is like our second incredibly emotional story
in the last couple weeks in professional golf,
that her brother, when she was just 12 years old,
10 years prior was killed by a drunk driver,
so she said, you know, this, I dedicate this win to him.
She said, growing up, I wanted to do everything Brandon did.
She told golf channel.com in a phone interview afterwards.
He was a great athlete, and I'm super competitive.
I think because of him, he really helped me become the athlete.
I am today.
He was a great man, and I felt like he was watching today.
So again, sports are the best.
Very, very cool story.
She was emotional.
It's an emotional thing.
You can go read up on that, watch some of the highlights.
It's very easy to root 4-22-year-old rookie winning on the LPG tour for the first time.
Awesome stuff.
And then the last thing I want to touch on is this whole one story we got from a listener.
So good.
He sent this to all of us, I believe, and he did a good job because it got on our radar.
Robbie, I believe is his name.
He just sent, first of all, it was a picture.
It was like a screenshot of like his Facebook page as proof that like, no, no, I've already posted about this happening, which I liked.
He said, first hole in one yesterday.
Broke phone, Saturday night.
No phone for GPS to find golf course.
848, 845 a.m. tea time pulling parking lot at 846.
My dad pissed.
I'm late to our tea time and I have to skip the first hole.
Second hole, par 3, 148 yards, 7 iron, first swing of the day, hole in one first ever.
Dad no longer hates me that I showed up late and missed first time.
Best timeline.
If you're talking about the Whitney timeline being the worst timeline of all time, this is perfect.
So good.
So good.
God, just showing up late, has no phone.
And you know that moment because everybody's been there where your dad's just pissed at year.
He looks like post college from the picture.
I don't know, but he's in that time gap of post college to 30 or whatever.
And I can't imagine how pissed his dad is.
Missed the first tee.
Just like my son's an idiot.
Like you said, the timeline's incredible.
He broke his phone.
He had no GPS to finally go off course.
He's like, where the fuck is this place?
I know I'm late.
I know my dad's pissed off.
Like, what time is it 8.40?
Can't get in touch with him.
Like, how would I get to anywhere without a GPS?
I would just sit and scream until someone helped me.
So then he's like finally finds this place.
I had to take my car this morning to the, to the Mazda dealer.
So I got it, there's like a recall thing.
So I got to take it in there and get it checked out.
So I booked an appointment, I go sit down to my car this morning.
I plug it into my GPS.
And it just like won't.
do it. It just says like, um, it says like we cannot triangulate that fucking location
location show right now. So I sat in the front of my apartment for like 10 minutes. I was like,
I don't know which way to drive. You have no idea. I was like, it could be, it could be anywhere. It could be
up in Boston. That's what this guy's feeling. He knows he's late. And like being late to a tea time is like
with your dad. Especially in the car at like a time. Like if you're in the car and you know your tea
times right now, you're like, I'm fucked. These guys are teeing off without me. I'm not even close.
I'm not even in the parking lot yet. Gets there. Pulls in.
in a minute late.
Misses the first hole.
Like already your day's like over.
You know your dad just like hates you right now.
Like you're probably that son that just fucks up all the time.
Your dad's already done with the hole.
He's already on the second T.
Probably not even talking to you.
Probably not even talking to you.
You go up there.
You got to apologize.
He finally gets to the second hole.
Part three.
Everyone's probably already hit already.
And he's like,
oh, sorry guys.
Like GPS, no phone.
Everyone's like,
all right, buddy.
Like just go hit.
Just hit please.
And he takes one swing and it goes in.
It's just changes everything.
The best hole in one story ever.
Yeah, we get a lot of submissions and whatnot, and this one we had to put it.
Dad no longer hates me that I showed up later.
The way that he put it, the way I read it to everyone, too, is that is how he sent it to us, like a bullet point.
He just sent bullet points of exactly what happened.
Perfect way to describe it.
Congratulations to Robbie.
Very, very cool stuff.
All right.
We got to go do radio now.
So I believe we're done here.
Yeah.
At this point.
Yeah.
Real quick, Cardi B.
naming her next album, Tiger Woods.
Hilarious.
We should read it really quickly.
She said, I think I'm going to name my album, Tiger Woods.
because remember when everybody was talking shit on Tiger Woods
and then he fucking came and won that green jacket
That's what I'm gonna name my album
Love it
We're like you could tell me Cardaby doesn't know anything about Tiger Woods
Did we flip cut it actually turns out she knows a ton about him
And she was about his comeback story
And she's like I loved it so much when they put that green jacket on him
At Augustin National that I'm gonna name my album after her knowing green jacket that he won even like that stunned me
It was great
And then he fucking came and won that green jacket
That's what I'm gonna name my album
Good for you
Cardi B is like on Team Tiger.
Did you ever hear her talk about taxes?
Big time.
No, I don't want to hear her talk about taxes.
It's the best like 45 second clip of your life.
Her Instagram is, she hates taxes.
Her Instagram is incredibly entertaining sometimes.
Taxes thing.
Taxes hit and so she like saw her bank account or like what it would have been, but then
taxes hit.
She went on like a 45 second to minute rant about how she hates taxes.
It's perfect.
Her Instagram is full of gems of stuff for like talking about current events, but she's Team Tiger.
That could be a T-shirt.
And then he fucking.
came and won that green jacket.
I mean, I'm going to tell my kids that.
In quotes, Cardi B.
And then he came and fucking won that green jack?
Yeah.
That's a, hey son, that's what happened.
That had to open up.
I mean, I know.
He came and won that green jacket.
Yep.
Hey, son, you want to know about Tiger Woods?
He came and won that green jacket.
There's going to be parts of her audience that don't have any idea really
who Tiger Woods is or what it's all about.
But they know he came.
They know he came and won the green jackets.
He just got way more fans.
More fans.
Without going in too much detail?
No, it's Tiger being Tiger.
It is.
It shows up.
He came.
He came and won the green jacket.
And that's what she's going to name her album.
We're just reading quotes here.
And then he fucking came and won that green jacket.
And if you pause long enough, it really seems like there were two wildly separate things.
Yes.
And then he fucking came.
Stop.
And won that green jacket.
It's awesome.
I love Cardi B.
Kirkmanehan's up next.
You're going to enjoy this.
This is fun.
It gets dark.
It gets interesting.
Stick around.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
Go Rangers.
Go Islanders.
Go Islanders.
Fucked your crowd.
they promote sound or sleep, they elevate mood, they lower stress hormones.
We're very stressed here, Barstile sports.
We're always doing stuff.
We're always moving.
Very stressful.
You put on these glasses.
You're less stressed.
They don't look like other companies, computer glasses you see out there.
They take movements best selling glasses frames and blue light filtering lenses to them
so you don't have to sacrifice style for functionality.
I put on a pair of movement glasses last week.
The picture that I took with them was so good that I put it on my Instagram.
Everyone was saying you got to buy these glasses.
You have to buy these.
So I'm going to do that.
Eventually, movement.
They make great glasses pick from round frames, clear frames, colored frames.
Movement selection is always expanding with new traditional and fashion-forward styles to choose from.
The average person spends almost seven hours a day in front of a screen.
Movement's blue-light glasses help us to change our habits so that we can keep up with a changing technological world.
Ever-scroll blue-light filtering glasses start at just $65.
That's very cheap.
Whether you're at the office, scrolling through your phone or unwinding from a long day,
ever-scroll glasses have you covered.
Here's what you've got to do.
get 15% off with free shipping and free returns by going to mvmt.com slash four.
That's mvmt.com slash F-O-R-E.
Shop movement ever scroll blue light, fills, ring glasses, protect your eyes and look great doing it.
Go to mvmt.com slash four. Join the movement.
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are now joined by the one and only. Kirk Minnehan. He is a
coworker of ours. Sometimes it feels like by name only, as you're obviously in a different city.
Right.
you're a little bit of a cramudgeon, you're getting into it with folks all the time.
Yeah, I don't know.
You know, I think that's overplayed.
By who?
Just in general, by people.
I'm a big golf fan, though, and the reason you would know that is because I tweet about the events while they happen.
Okay.
What?
I'm just saying.
You know, I started this thing off.
Jake was like, oh, is Lurch going to be here for the interview?
And I looked at Kirk.
I'm like, is that what we're calling this in the interview?
Is Kirk at the level of, like, being called an interview, or is he just, like, joining us?
What the fuck does that mean?
I don't know. I just like, it felt weird.
Interview?
Like, we interview like Justin Thomas.
No.
No, I don't.
I can leave.
I listen to your thing.
Right, but we're not going to ask you like, Kirk, what's the most like, I don't care.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I have a fucking answer for that question.
If you want to know.
Now, what Kirk was alluding to is I was a little late to this, uh, starting of this
interview because Jared Carabas was outside doing his thing where he wears his sunglasses
during the radio show.
Well, you just said you hate corrupt.
I fucking hate him.
Is it legitimate hate or is it?
It's like sport.
I actually respect what he does.
He's a good worker and he does all this stuff.
But I fucking despise his character here because I know it's a character.
For anybody who doesn't know, we've got to set the table.
Jared Karabas is our Boston Red Sox blogger.
Right.
And he's all in.
That's all he cares about.
And he has gone like full transformation.
He's like a method actor who has gone.
He has become the rocket.
Yeah, he used to be like a, he used to have like his hair was shaved down to his skull.
And he had like, whatever, like baggy clothes on now.
He wears tight t-shirts and his hair's flopping over his eyebrows.
What's that about?
What is that about?
What's going on?
just like a whole transformation.
So just really quickly, because I know it's not a baseball podcast, but like,
we don't talk about baseball.
He is trying to put a limit on, like, when people are allowed to celebrate, like, Yankee
games now because he doesn't want us to be happy.
He's scared the Yankees are going to win the World Series.
So he's now in the first round of the playoffs being like, who's allowed to go to the parade?
He's already doing that now.
We're in the ALDS game three.
And he's already picking who's allowed to go to the parade.
You're like, he's doing to what your boss does to everyone else all the time.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
And so what I said was like, yes, I'm an Islanders fan.
And yes, I'm publicly an islanders fan.
That's what I do.
I tweet about the Islanders.
That's all I do.
But, like, I still watch the Yankees.
That's what I was growing up with.
My dad, me and my dad watch the Yankees together.
That's all we talk about.
So, like, he's like, well, why don't you tweet about it?
That's his answer.
Yeah, his criteria.
Yeah, 162 games.
You're not live tweeting, and then you're not a fan.
It's really bad.
One of the great things is not revealing.
I wish I'd go back and not reveal who I'm a fan of.
So then you're not like obligated to.
I mean, who gives a fuck what Jared Karabas thinks.
That's what I'm starting to think.
I like him and everything.
He's a fucking moor.
Why would you allow somebody that's stupid to get you worked up?
Well, I get worked up pretty easily.
Yeah, I understand.
Okay.
That's true.
So, Kirk, we originally taught golf right before the Masters.
Yes.
And you were doing, at the time, your own little, what, podcast?
Well, I was working still at Intercom.
Were you?
Yeah, yeah.
They moved me over and we were trying to figure other stuff out.
I thought you were on, like, fucking podcast.com.
No, radio.
com.
Radio.
It's owned by Entercom.
So they were paying me, as I said earlier, some other podcast today, a fucking
fortune to do this podcast to keep me off.
They were paying me to not be on the radio.
That's how much they didn't want me on the radio anymore.
They were paying me an insane amount of money.
I got to be honest. That's awesome. Why did you
stop that? A person who is an normal train
of thought would say, let's just keep ride this train as long
as can be, but I fucking kicked my way out. And now
I'm here talking to you guys about fucking Jared
Carrabis is tweeting. I mean, I mean, really.
What a come up? What the fuck happened?
You got to fuck. So yeah, I had you on
before, and I think you picked Tiger to win.
I did. He had me on legit. I think
The Tuesday or Wednesday before the Masters?
Which I went to, yeah.
You were there.
You were like, I'm going to be down there.
So I want to have you on.
I want to talk about.
We talk off.
We shout the shit.
We talked about a bunch of guys.
But ultimately you were like, all right, don't be, you know,
don't be a character.
Don't be Mr. Tiger fan.
Like, who do you think?
And I gave my reasons and said,
I think Tiger Woods is going to win the Masters.
Now, I have said that about every time.
What happened?
And, well, Tiger Woods won the, the 2019 match.
I will say we were at a point where we were picking him pretty much every week.
Right.
Well, what happened was once you get on that train,
I can't not pick him one week.
Then if he wins,
you're forever roasted about that.
And you can't ever load it down this, that ball.
But also, there are a lot of good reasons to think Tiger was going to win the Masters.
And I obviously turned out to be right.
So I think you're a little bit of a good luck charm.
But we shout the shit.
We talked a lot of golf that week.
Have you always been a big golf guy?
Huge.
Oh, God.
Well, I started playing, like, as a teenager.
And since then it's literally all I care about.
I was telling the guys before.
I mean, I told you earlier, I didn't give a fuck about these NFL games yesterday.
I'm watching Nah and Can-Lay.
the most important sporting event in my life.
Do you like watching golf more than you like playing golf?
It's pretty close.
Pretty close.
I can watch the fucking Solheim Cup the entire thing.
I'll watch the champions tour.
You put it on?
I'll watch this idiot play one fucking,
I'll watch anybody play golf anywhere.
Well, we're always stunned because we talk,
you know, it's our fucking job, the content game.
You're trying to come up with videos.
And we're always, at first, especially, like,
stunned at how many people and how much enjoyment they get out of just watching us play golf.
That's a great concept.
And people say all the time, like, you guys fucking suck.
I don't get why.
Especially the haters, but you guys suck a golf.
Well, everybody sucks a golf.
Unless you're, like, a top 50 player in the world, a lot of times you suck at golf.
Well, if you're flipping around, right, on the weekend or whatever, and you land on the, what's the one that they play in Tahoe?
The celebrity one?
Oh, the, la, la, la, la.
You know, they're fucking throwing footballs on the beach.
If you go on there and you're watching, Jerry Rice is about to hit a golf shot, are you going to change the channel?
Are you going to watch your shot?
You're going to watch every single time.
I don't care.
It's just something, if you're into it, if you're not, I understand, and that's fine.
go do something else.
But if you're into it, there's nothing more compelling.
For some reason, I've always been obsessed by it.
And you get the aspect of play.
Like for me, especially this time here.
People, and, you know, we host Barcelona Radio, right?
Barcelona Radio is not a golf show.
So sometimes I'll just start going on tirades.
I'll start talking about golf, this, that.
Be like, it's fucking football season you lose or this, that.
My point is like, if the weather's nice enough that I could be outside golfing,
I'm golfing.
I'm not sitting inside watching football all day.
And I've been on a pretty strong crusade this year that I think football in the NFL
for the most part is boring.
I think most games are boring.
How do you play golf if you live in New York City, though?
It's very difficult.
You got to have connections.
Yeah, where do you go?
You go in the island?
I played yesterday.
It took me an hour and a half to get to where I go.
It stinks.
It honestly just.
We were talking to guys.
I was talking to guys before.
Nobody has cars.
Statistically, nobody has cars, right?
So what the, you get a fucking schlop on the train and bring the mubs?
Oh, yeah.
No, you do the move.
You bring the clubs.
You got to sit in between your legs.
You get people give you looks all the time.
Half the people on the subway want to smack you.
Right.
Look at this dick as a dog.
And we talk about this on the show.
Whenever we play, we play.
There's no practice because if you're going to go out and make the effort,
you got to play, and that makes us suck golf even more.
Right.
Correct.
So you started playing when you're a teenager.
Like what?
Did you grow up like what?
Country Club live in public golf golf golf?
So I mean, no, I know.
No, my dad didn't play until he was much older.
My next door neighbor played a little bit.
And one day he just grabbed me.
He's like, you're going to go play.
It was Woburn, which is like a nine hole course next to town.
I grew up in Massachusetts.
That's a nice little nine hole course.
The Woburn country.
Yeah, I've been there.
Yeah, it's okay.
Don't they, like, mix up the T's,
so the holes change a little bit or not?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I didn't know anything.
I watched a little bit on TV at that point,
but not really.
I remember my first drive, I hit it, okay,
went down the fairway, the ball was there.
There were two old guys we got paired up with.
The ball was there, grab it in the fairway,
teed up the ball in the fairway.
Oh, no, you don't do that.
I was like, oh, all right.
And I think I hit a couple of decent shots,
and I was fucking hooked.
Totally hooked.
I mean, that was it.
I mean, that's all it takes.
How is your game?
And we talked about this a little bit before the show that we were getting tagged like a month ago.
Whenever it was, you're out at some, you know, you're out at some golf out of charity.
Foxwood.
That's right.
League of Isles, I think.
Which I love that place.
Great.
Gorgeous spot.
Of course, it's always phenomenal condition.
Awesome.
But it was, it had to be part North Korea, like your little Minahan show crew was doing a North Korea.
I shot a 28 that day.
I was fucking watching every time.
I was fucking watching every time.
It was like, tagged in like, watch out rigs bar.
So it was you making like a 40 foot put.
Correct.
Yes.
Yeah.
It's also put in contrast to blind mic playing.
as well.
That's true.
He's all that.
He's the point.
Well, he's blind.
He didn't struggle that day.
He struggles every day.
That's true.
To do minimal life, life tasks.
We can't see.
Right.
Right.
That's a part.
Golf's really hard if you can't see.
Correct.
One of the main senses,
there's the one blind guy
who we still want to have on the show
who's pretty good at golf.
Oh, we totally let that fizzle out.
We did.
We got to put that.
How good is.
And the tickle is pretty good.
Jeremy points a knot,
the world's top blind golfer.
Yeah, we're going to do a little bit.
We're going to play against him.
you're going to play against me because I'm a bad golf
I think if you can drive the ball
if you're blind I mean you can play with your eyes
but you can drive I mean you can hit the ball off a tee
their eyes closed you can do it if you have a really good cat
but your head's just down right it's not like you're doing it
I don't know imagine playing just close your eye
I mean that's what we're talking about I mean I don't
close your eyes and I don't know how you hit like a 35 yard shot
no that's the thing like you want to tip the ball
and rip it fine but like how do you put the
how do you put the ball on the center of the club face
yeah but I don't know
think about this think about hard golf is for us and we can see fine
Dude, the biggest thing that people say is keep your head down.
Look at the golf ball.
It's like one of the biggest tips.
You just look it up like, dude, I told you I'm blind.
I can't see the golf.
So it doesn't matter if my head was like backwards.
I can do it was number one in the world for a while.
He lifted his head every single time.
Onica too.
Onica too, big time.
Onica is one of those.
So we talk about this a lot.
When I watch Rory play golf, I think immediately I have no hope.
That is a motion that I'm incapable of.
Now when you get other guys like Furek or in the women's game,
I would always say Onica was one that I would watch her swing
and be like, you know, that's not that far off
from emotion that I could do.
She had like the Steve Strick, it's like all arm.
Right.
Yeah.
So I'll watch the women's, again, I'll fucking, I don't, I'll watch anything.
So I'll watch the women's golf and they'll hit, you know, there'll be 160 yard par three
and they'll be hitting like four hybrids in there, right?
Or, you know, 440-yard par fives are laying up.
And you want to mock them, but then you realize they're 14 under par.
I don't care if I'm playing a par three course, it's 50 yards.
They're fucking 14 under par.
Yeah.
I know they never missed the fairway ever.
but how is that possible?
They are so accurate.
They're just nothing.
Precision and their short games.
I feel like anytime I watch an LPGA tour event,
any chip that they have,
I'm like, oh, this might go in.
They almost hold out every time.
They're more accurate because their speed is less.
I don't know what it is, man.
If I knew I would just like replicate it.
Once you get off the T, they are the best golfers.
They're like, when you take,
well, they're also more accurate.
What I mean by that is when you take length,
like when you take length out of it.
100 yards in, you're saying?
100 yards in.
I mean, they're just as good as the men.
I don't think that's true.
No?
No,
statistically,
I can't believe that's true.
But they're like in some of these tournaments,
they're like 18, 20 under bar.
You're probably right.
It's crazy.
I will say then,
though,
you'll watch like Lexi Thompson Tiob or she like hits it further.
She bombs it.
There's a few of them who just totally bomb it.
Absolutely crushes the golf ball.
You can't go that under par without actually getting the ball in the hole.
True.
I mean,
they're doing,
they're doing the thing.
They also like they play.
They're doing what golf is.
They also play.
It's not like they're playing from 55-00 yards.
No, we looked it up for.
It's like similar to what we play.
It's like 6,800 yards, right?
Yeah, I don't know if it's that thing, but it's like 62, 6300.
63?
You see a lot of like 380 yard par 4s and 450 yard par 5s, but that's the part of my game.
I can't, I have no fucking distance.
I also, we could just be wrong about our distance numbers.
Like, they might be playing from 65, 60.
I have no idea.
I have no clue.
So how's your game in general?
Are you actually pretty good.
Right now I just looked up my gin 9.3.
Okay, pretty good.
I mean, not, you know, not tremendous, solid, solid.
Mid 80s golf, like high.
Yeah.
And low, occasionally.
break 80 you're right there with us great short great great according to your guys
no no i mean like i have a great i have a great the name it's a great short game i it's a great and
you're feeling i have a scratch short game so what do you swing just stinks so i can't
fuck it the ball if my my i have no distance i have no distance i have distance issues oh really yeah
is that because you're you're small guys not masculine i guess that what you're saying you but
you don't know what you were going to say next i knew it was going to be in something i can't
I can't have tried to get to the bottom.
I can't have like,
because your testosterone's low?
What is it?
You were telling me about your putting earlier.
You got some wild putting stuff on.
Does it translate to the bed?
You need Romans?
We all,
the Romans is a big friend of the Kirkmanahan show as well.
Everybody needs Roman.
I'm trying to,
yeah,
trying to fuck longer.
I haven't fucking come during around in years since I used Roman.
I come,
one time I came on the 16th,
there was a big delay.
But if there hadn't been,
I had a great shot.
I would,
yeah,
I fucking smoked one off the team.
You couldn't not come with that shot.
No,
but yeah,
I'll put it on 40 or 50 before a round.
Is that an issue or no?
No, I think that's great.
Yeah.
I think that's good.
Whatever works for you.
Is Roman and Adreid on this show?
Because if they are, I mean,
they are with us.
So, fuck it.
We'll fight for the promo code.
We'll fight for the promo code.
Yeah.
Get Roman.com slash Kirk.
That's why I'm here.
What's with your putting?
What are you?
So it's a myriad of things.
So I've struggled with the putting over the years,
not yips, but some stuff.
But now this year, I told you before,
you know how Stricker does a thing with the toe
Yeah, his hands are real high, it feels like.
Yep, so I do that in the short putts now.
The longer putts, I don't.
The longer putts are more feel still.
And I go cross-handed.
So my grip is, do we have a, we don't have a club here, right?
We have a putter.
You guys have clubs here?
No, I mean, it's probably somewhere.
You know, we've got to share this with caller date.
They'll show, you know, you don't know what's going to happen out there.
That's fine.
In a different way.
Yeah.
So you guys, you never do a crossover episode.
Slipper grips.
Where you guys talk about, like, eating ass and they talk about.
I see, Frank.
We do a crossover episode when they're in the studio next to us and we can hear them yelling.
Yes.
That's really about as close.
So mine is more like this.
I go over like this on the longer puts.
Okay.
A little bit of that.
So you're like almost like a half.
No, you cross.
Are you cross handed?
Cross handed with the claw.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
The claw.
Yeah.
What's that, Krista Marco?
A little bit of Krista Marco.
But it's, yeah.
But sometimes it all depends on how it looks right to left.
Right to left.
Right to left.
I do cross left to right.
Generally, I don't.
Jesus.
Isn't that crazy?
You're really in your head a little bit.
Yeah, there's a lot of DeShambeau going on.
But you've been putting well, you said.
I don't have the best putting year in my life.
So Frankie's been talking about going right-handed putting.
Yeah.
He's a lefty, so I was thinking about going cross-grid.
My brother Ryan did the opposite.
He was a right-y-one-year, he putted lefty and putting-grim.
With a right-handed grip?
Yeah, I think he did.
I think actually, yes, he did.
It's the easiest way to, because you still get to keep the grip that feels right,
but now you're struggling that much?
It's pretty bad.
Although yesterday, I mean, we could talk about our rounds this weekend.
I don't know if we're going to do that with Kirk, but I mean, I putted phenomenal.
We're hanging out.
You putted phenomenal?
Yeah.
Hmm.
Shot in 85, played Cherry Valley golf course.
I was bad off the tee, but scrambled.
I was making pars, pars, bars.
I shot 40 on the back, but like when I tell you, like, this golf course is running
at probably the fastest screens I've played all year, like, including, like, MPCC.
Like, we played some phenomenal golf courses, and Cherry Valley Country Club was playing so fast that
it felt like you were putting on ice.
You tapped the ball, and it was flying.
I'm surprised you, because usually your issues.
you crank them pass up.
I was, these lag puts, I was like, I was hitting a lot of greens in regulation,
but I was on the ends of the greens, and I was hitting like 50 foot, 45 foot, 30 foot
sliders that were just going to tap in range.
I was getting putts given to me all day.
It was crazy.
You change anything in your putting or no.
Just same thing.
Changed nothing.
Just hadn't played in two or three weeks, so I felt like maybe all the bad juju was like a reset.
Just like, yeah, I just didn't know how to put badly anymore.
My putting, it's the only, it's the only club that I hold differently than all my other clubs.
And the only thing that I do differently is instead of interlocking my pinky.
so it would be my, you know, I'm a right-handed golfer.
It would be my left hand, my index finger.
Instead of interlocking, I just move it to the outside and lay it between my pinky and ring finger on the outside of my right hand.
And the only reason I do that is because in probably 2004, 2005, when I started getting really into golf, I read a golf digest article that said Tiger Woods does it.
It's the only reason that I do it.
Wow.
And I've done it ever since.
And my brother, similarly, he like three or four years ago, what was it, was it,
2015 when speed was unreal and putting lights out
He's like he was making 20 footers
25 footers at the rate that most people make like six
footers on the PGA tour
He was crosshander so my brother just started putting crosshanded
Because he's like and I was like Kyle
Is anything wrong with your putting? He goes no my putting is good
But speed putts crosshaded so I'm just gonna start putting crosshander
He does it ever since
Is it fucking weird how that happens? Yeah
Yeah and it's such a total feel though
It'll go what sucks is when you lose it
You just fucking lose it and then it's gone and you're just frustrated
And it just drives you nuts
So you're a guy who you have a lot of strong
feelings about things. You never shy about that. I think so. Let's talk about like some golf
takes. Like what do you think about Tiger Woods? Do you like Tiger Woods? Do you think he's...
No, I mean, I'm with everybody else now. It's impossible. It's weird though. Like, would you, if I said
to you, Tiger wins the Masters this year and is essentially irrelevant after that, or he's as
good as he was before the Masters for like the next four or five years, but doesn't win the
masters. Would you make that trade? You know what I'm saying? But he still could win after? Yeah,
there's always that because right now, let's face it, he's been irrelevant.
Yeah, you're saying we were more optimistic about his game at this point last year.
I mean, I think he's still in the top 10 in the world, but I mean, not really, right?
I mean, he's not, he's done, what has he done since the Masters?
Nothing, right?
Yeah, I agree with that.
A decent memorial, but I mean, he doesn't, you put it this way.
Is that a few more knee issues?
Yeah, so you kind of feel like.
He just had it cleaned out.
He's fine.
I know.
You just wonder.
You just wonder, is it going to, you know, is it going to end?
But no, but I mean, I'm, he's the most, he, there is no athlete on earth who moves a needle in their sport like Tiger Woods.
Not even debatable.
It's not even close.
You're such a big principle.
I could see you being like, I don't like, I don't like, I don't like
Tiger Woods and I never will.
I could see you be one of those.
I can't.
Oh, I don't care.
What the fuck am I going to do?
Or I don't know.
Even like when you read the book, there were stories about he.
Well, he's clearly an, a bit of an asshole.
I mean, you grilled him on that in that video.
Big time.
I don't know how he survived it.
You look very, very upset.
I was not physical.
Oh, yeah.
No, you were right.
I mean, I was cross-examining.
There was almost two guys who were just like looking at each other.
Like, someone's going to, who's fucking throwing first.
He was going to flinch.
You know, either one of us did.
Put your hands up.
To be continued.
Immovable force.
Immovable object.
Unstoppable force.
I mean, he's so great.
It's just, you know, it's, no, I mean, I would never.
And, you know, but he plays well once, you know, between now and the Masters and, you know, everyone's going to pick him to win the Masters.
I think you have to take the Masters.
Yeah, that Masters would have so satisfying.
Especially with Dave and all the haters, you can be like, fuck you.
You never thought he was going to win anything.
And it answers.
It's like, dude, he came back 11 years later and won a fucking major.
That's out.
And that can count.
You know, people always count that for multiple majors.
You'll have that moment.
The juxtaposition between his father, the hug on 18 and his son and all that.
Like, you always have that.
I also love this.
I mean, I would love the Masters Day.
I know they'll never do it.
I love that Sunday morning.
I thought it was awesome playing on Sunday morning.
How cool was that?
It was so great.
It was the best thing ever.
Best thing ever.
So the waiting all day.
It was great.
They'll never do it for TV reasons.
But also Molanari, that loss is going to stick.
That is a fucking kill loss.
Because he was unflappable.
Oh, he's fucking awesome.
And he dumps two in the water.
But, yeah.
Yeah, but I think you're right.
If you're a Tiger fan,
plus it's the Masters.
It's like you won some random, the PGA somewhere.
Right.
He won the best thing you can win and go.
Oh, the best thing you win in sports.
After people said he was done.
You think winning the Masters is the best championship in all sports?
Yes.
Yes.
The Masters is the greatest event in the world.
There's nothing else even close to it.
You've never gone, right?
Oh, we've gone.
I was there with Sergio one.
I was waving my hat like a 19.
17?
You were there, yeah.
Yeah, I was waving my hat.
Do they're on Sunday.
Like a 1920s, yeah, like a 1920s person being like a wife when the guys would go out for the Navy.
The sailors.
Yep.
So the ship horns going.
Does it suck to go on the Sunday, though, because you're missing.
So I want on Thursdays and Fridays.
So I went alone.
Yeah, we had to stay back.
Riggs and I, because we were covering it, tweeting about it.
So we gave Frankie.
I was fairly new at the company.
So another event where you didn't tweet at during a big.
Yeah.
During a big mom.
That's correct.
There's another indictment on Frankie's fandom.
So you're not the master's man.
He does not like golf.
But what was crazy was I was alone.
So I was able to like kind of.
of just bolt around myself.
If I was with a crew, no chance I was seeing as much as I saw the head the whole time.
So you saw him win and everything?
Yes.
That's pretty good.
It worked out great because we were, at the time, Frankie was only Dave's guy.
He had nothing to do with Ford Play.
It was just like Trent Daddy and myself was our first year.
And he had been down there.
He'd been like in the mix with us and this and that.
But that Sunday, Dave was like, you know, obviously you guys can't be in there.
You need to be tweeting, covering.
We did a live stream, all that.
So we gave our badges to Frankie.
We're like, you just go have the best time ever.
We'll see you later.
And so we ended up having him on the show after.
and he's like, I saw Cootcher's hole in one, I saw Sergio win, he saw everything.
But that's because you were the best.
That was Sergio Eagle on 15?
Yeah.
Well, so now I was sitting at the grandstand on, what is that?
16.
No, on the par three.
What is that?
16.
Yeah, so 16.
So I saw Sergio's hit the flag while I'm on the 16 grandstand.
But just minutes before that, I watched Cochardt hit the hole in one.
That was the first swing I saw on that hole was Cochard was crazy.
Knowing you better now, I can't, you must have been tapping people being like,
like, could you believe what you were seen?
I just couldn't believe it was going on.
I just couldn't believe it was going on.
I went from Amy.
corner to 16. I'm seeing all these shots. Coutre flies one in. Sergio hits the flag. I'm like,
what the fuck is happening right now? So two years ago, I went for the first time. And the way we walk
through, you go and you wind up at 13 green at this. And I felt like I was walking in like a video game.
I was like, it was just real? Is this really happening? And there's no other experience like that.
For me in sports, I was nothing close. It feels like, and Trent, I haven't talked about this. He and I
walked down the first time we were there, we walk in together. And you know, you're getting like, we weren't
even talking to each other that much because you're so like we're like oh my god we're fucking
accustomed you get emotional i hate to say it but you do you do and we walk down 10 which is obviously
the super steep is par four 10th hole and your heart starting to head down towards 11 and you're kind of like
at that point you can't really see that much actually from 10 like yeah when you walk on to 18 green in that
area you can see like over the vista you can see one you can see down towards like nine
and seven all that stuff but then we're like let's go down let's try to make our way towards
a main corner and we walk our way down 11 and we start to see and then there's like a one point where
you kind of shimmied a little left and you could see the 12th green and aiming
corner sitting down in there and how tall the trees are.
We said it looked like the throne from Game of Thrones.
Like back dropping the 12th hole and we just stood there for like five minutes.
Two guys who talked for a living.
It didn't say a fucking word to each other.
And people think the no phone thing is outdated, but it's the perfect scenario for it.
It's the best part because you don't, because you'd be looking your phone the whole time.
First 10 minutes, you're kind of like, oh, I keep checking where my phone.
It's not there.
The rest of the time, it's the best experience you can have.
Yeah, because you'd be looking at your phone looking for the leaderboard or looking around or
taking pictures, it's perfect.
I'm trying to think, like, if you could rather win, like, for me, a hockey guy,
like a Stanley Cup for my hometown team or win the Masters?
I think win the Masters.
Plus, you get to go back forever.
Forever.
Yeah, you can play when you're 85.
You go to a champion, hang out with a part three?
Every year.
You get that green fucking jacket?
You can't beat it.
You should get to walk around the Masters tournament every year with a green jacket on.
Some of those members wear green jackets.
Have you seen that?
Oh, fuck off.
Like, you know.
There are a couple of them.
They walk around with, like, sneakers on.
Like, go fuck yourself.
They walk around like gods.
They're like, I got the green jackets.
If I had that jacket, man, I'd be walking around.
Definitely.
I don't wear pants.
Definitely.
What are they going to do?
What about a guy like Bryce and Deschambo?
You like Bryce and Deschambo?
Well, I like the fact that people don't like him.
I like the fact that, so again, the master's.
So it was, I think your boy Fitzpatrick and somebody else was paired with Dishamper.
Yeah, that's our euro.
Right.
Yeah.
Was playing with him.
See, I pay attention.
It was the 13th.
And so we were lined up sort of like about 80 yards out.
And they were playing with DeCambeau was Fitzpatrick.
Somebody else, Viesberger, I think.
And DeCambeau, and Fitzpatrick's girlfriend, whatever, family was next to where we were.
He came over and started fucking bitching about how slow DeCambo.
He was fucking bitching up a storm.
And like I like the fact that he is quirky and weird.
Because everyone's the same.
Everyone is the same.
You want everyone to be like Dustin Johnson?
Right.
He's fucking robots.
Like DeCambeau, you can see him thinking.
he's fucked up he's always you know going this or that melting down he melted down in europe a couple
of years ago that's the one thing i like that when you turn on golf the one thing you're looking for
is a reason when you look at that leaderboard to find a guy who doesn't or isn't exactly like
every other white country club guy on the leaderboard that's what you're finding a reason to do
yeah and bryson like even though for a while and and we like we battle on this show about they're like
he's this comes off as like the most spoiled country co-cog guy but he's different he makes headlines
all the time he's polarizing yeah yeah right he sprits in the ball just now that we've got a normal a little bit
better we've warmed up to him a bit but we still well he's pretty friendly with you guys very much so
yeah so it was a rocky start for sure i thought he was like uh an annoying like like we thought it was
fake i thought he was doing everything just to be the science guy like when he was spraying the ball to
see what how how the do the morning that's a little much yeah i'm like you don't need to do that
in front of all the cameras right like you're trying to like that directly turns into a bridgestone
scientist uh commercial like that's all you're doing it for you want a brand he we now learn
that he likes to be, he likes to be liked very much.
Like he cares very much about, like, the way people perceive him.
So I thought that was all that was driving it.
But then Riggs and everyone else was telling me, like, no, he's only doing this stuff
because it's what, that's allowing him to win.
He had won, what, three tournaments in a row at one point?
That really helped my case.
Like, right when I jumped on the, on the, what are we going to call it,
the Bryson bandwagon?
Yeah.
Right when I jumped on it, it was after the PGA last year.
And then he just won, like, three tournaments in the next five weeks.
So it was hard to, like, argue against the fact that, yes, he's doing stuff that makes
him look nerdy and scientific and it may be for his brand, but he also is doing it because
it's allowing him to win.
So that's why I kind of like respected him in that.
And then we also met him and he was like, cool.
And anyone that sucks our dick, I'll just be friends.
Yeah.
After the whole soul play thing, we were the first media outlet that he was like, right.
He's like, yeah, we'll come on your show.
So you give us that kind of relationship.
We're going to love you.
And I also do think he's genuine.
Like he is a little dorky and nerdy.
He taught me how he tried to because I still can't do it.
But he taught me how to chip at the PGA championship at Beth Page, Wednesday, before
the major brought me on to the driving range in front of a full crowd.
work? No. I mean, it was like, who's supposed to learn in that situation? That's true.
I had no glove. I was wearing jeans. I don't even know. Like, I was just like, what the
fuck's going on right now? I couldn't learn a thing. I was so nervous. What about Phil Mickelson?
Phil Mickelson has a little bit of a rap of being like so calculating with the media.
See, I think I think he tries too hard. Yeah. I think it's just, I mean, look, I've been watching Phil
forever, right? But I mean, I think it's, you know, it's almost too, it's almost too much.
These videos now and the cat, enough what the fuck? We get it. You have calves.
What's left to say about Phil Nicholson's fucking cats?
He's big calves.
Congratulations.
When you're new to social media, it's not uncommon way overdue things.
True.
And I think he's getting a lot of feedback and people seem to like it and all that stuff.
But I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I feel like he's done, right?
Dude, he, so yesterday or this past weekend, when he hit the driver out of the bush, I knew he was done.
Yeah.
Like, I know it worked out.
But that is a guy, and I put this in my notes that we were going to talk about.
That is a guy who is now committed more to our style of our approach to golf than his,
which is like if he sees an opportunity that is going to be better for the cameras, better for his brand, rather than a shot that's going to work out better, he is going to do it.
That's what we do.
I sent that video to more people than I've sent anything in my entire life.
I forwarded that video of him with a driver to maybe 150 people.
It was wild.
He's in the content game now.
He's in the content game.
Was that the right?
Like he may have just assessed that and that was the best way to approach that shot.
Don't get me wrong.
Phil's been doing wild shit forever.
He's been the risky guy.
Made the double at fucking wing foot by pulling.
driver in the 72nd hole.
He hits that ball over him.
That's been filled for him.
He hit a driver out of a fucking bush.
Did you hear what I just said to you?
The ball came flying out.
He hit a driver out of a bush.
Think about it though.
Should you, like that may be what I do all the time now?
Like, what are you going to take a wedge to it or something?
Like it's a harder, it's a harder thing to make contact on.
It's like a bigger surface area.
Much bigger surface area.
To just like cruise through the bush?
That is a guy who is more, he's closer to the foreplay part of his life than he is like
winning all time.
Well, Bryson likes to say he wants to change the game.
game with his one-length irons and all this stuff like Phil may have just changed the game.
We say though all the time when we do video like one time when Trent Daddy had like an easy
he's just off the green we were down in Houston he's just off the green we're filming a little riggs verse
video right and Trent daddy had gotten there to you had two great swings and he's like a couple
feet off the green he pulls out his wedge and he hits like a pretty mediocre chip and he looks back
in the camera he goes now if we weren't filming a video I would have putted that true but for the
video I hit a chip that that's almost where Phil is at in my life like no no we're not here to
make good scores and make people think we're good at golf we are here
for the lights camera action.
Yeah.
That's what that comes up.
He had a driver out of a bush.
Yeah.
But I would say, as you said earlier, he would have done that 15 years ago.
Maybe.
That's him.
He's always done that.
He's fasting and shit.
Yeah, he's ripped now.
He looks great.
Massive midlife crisis.
But he looks odd rip, though.
It's weird.
The picture of him on the beach was like, he's skinny, but I don't know about
healthy.
He's like old man.
Some guys look a little better pudgy.
He looks a little better pudgy.
He's a little weight on, a little dad body.
He also plays still a lot.
Like, he's fucking 49 years old.
He's schlepping around that tournament.
this weekend?
I'm stunned when I see him at certain tournament.
Tiger plays like four tournaments a year.
Phil, I feel like plays 30.
He's always playing.
He played the week before, too, right?
He played Napa.
He was there.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah, he missed the cut, I think.
Callagai guy.
Because he played with Kari, I think.
So, I mean, he plays fucking all the time.
Isn't that amazing?
Like, the amount of golf that
Phil Mickelson has played,
you'd think now he'd just be the perfect.
Now bet you if you look up as net worth, it's probably $500 million.
Think about what we try and do,
and we try and practice.
Like, oh, if I practice more, I'd be a better golfer.
If you took that same like ideal, ideology,
ideology, boy, did that fuck me up.
You tried to say ideal.
You didn't even come close.
Ideology.
You know what I?
There's a couple I can't say.
400 million.
$400 million.
You're close.
If you took that same ideology that like all you need to do is practice to become better
and if I played more, I'd be better, then Phil Mickelson should be like, no joke,
the best golfer of, like every time he goes out and golfs, how does he mess up at this point?
He knows everything at this point.
He's been in every situation.
Think about that guy.
Okay, $400 million in the bank.
He's got his whole little quirky, weird thing going on on social media.
He's got five major championships.
And he's got, what, 44 or something, PGA Tour wins?
Yeah.
That guy's give a fuck meter when he teased it up at the Shriners Vegas Open is zero.
Why is he doing it, though?
That's a good question.
Because I don't know.
I mean, is he, he's probably flying.
You're not flying home every night.
But I guess at that.
On his plane, is he?
At some point, it's like you got to do.
something.
That's true.
I mean, if you play a lot, if you think about it like him, you're only playing 20 weeks
a year.
Right.
Two weeks a year, you're not, you're home.
You're just,
right.
He's just literally just out of it.
Think about the average guy who, when he wants to retire, they just want to
golf?
Like, what does, like, Phil Mickelson want to do when he retires?
What does a golfer want to do in their time?
He wants to say, baiting him into a fire side chats with Phil with Zach Johnson.
Those are weird, too.
Yeah, those are not fine.
I saw the one with Harrington and with Larry David.
They're not connecting.
Again, it's a guy who's, like, even the, everyone loved that video he did
going into Augusta, a magnolia drive with Cochre?
Oh, he's that one.
I know, but I'm just like, I know why you're doing this, Phil.
I get it.
But he gets all the headlines of this, Phil Mickelson, is the best thing you'll see all day.
He's got to love that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The dad, the zany dad.
Who you were in a two-man battle?
Kevin Knah.
Nah, I always go with quirky.
I always go with the order of the two.
Yeah.
Canlay is too much of a machine for me.
He's a good player.
But, you know, even after he lost, like, he just kind of gave this robotic interview.
It was weird.
I don't know.
We were talking about before.
when not fucking walked in the first putt in the first playoff hole for how long was that
put it was 10 feet in it i mean if that hits a pebble that you don't see that you can't or
whatever it misses you think what the asshole he looks like yeah he gives the like i can't believe
i blew it walk and no it's in the heart right how do you do that that's that doesn't make any sense
that somebody could have that much but he is anybody like that's exactly what i'm at bryson
anybody who does something different and quirky and all that he has his wild follow-throughs he's got
he had almost like the fisherman fucking follow-thru going a couple times where he's got his legs flannel up
in the air that's very like that's very like that's very like he's
likable.
Now, you know, he's 22nd in the world.
Does anybody ever think of him as one of the top 20 golfers in the world?
That's amazing.
He's higher than, uh, kids.
I'm going to chirp kids for that.
Yeah, he's right.
Kevin now's higher than Kevin Kisner.
I mean, I think Tiger Woods might, you know, which he might, you know, which
be fine right.
I like to see somebody's tired of Tiger.
Yeah, that's what I mean they did.
I feel like that's why I know Kevin not so much because I feel like the
Sawgrass thing.
Think of the players.
It was at the players, yeah, on 17 when they both made their little person.
It was a good Tiger moments.
See, Tiger would have never done that.
No.
No.
10, 15 years ago.
Never.
That's why I like the, you know, it's a much more enjoyable tiger.
When we get Tiger on this show, that's my number one question I want to ask.
It was like, people talk all time about how like this last couple years, Tiger's different.
Tiger's walking around.
He's got a smile on his face.
He's more warming to his fans and his friends and be like, do you think you're different?
Like, do you think anything about you different?
Or are we like overblowing that?
Yeah.
I think he'll say he's different.
You guarantee you you get him on?
I'm not going to sit here and guarantee it, but I think we'll get him on.
You feel good?
I feel great.
Phil, too, we're tight with Mickelson.
Yeah.
We've been chirping him a lot.
We had a DM in Phil Mickelson one night.
Me and Frankie DM Phil Mickelson was a wild night.
We've done it.
We don't know.
We talk on the side about how to like do it.
Yeah, we were like, what do we do here?
And like we hit him with a one two punch.
Like, hey, Phil, like fun tweeting tonight.
Like we'd love to have you on.
And I was like, yeah, Phil, I've always loved you.
I'm a lefty.
Let's do it.
And he's just like, what do you write?
Like cool.
Like love.
Something about bring bottles of wine.
Fun night on Twitter.
I can't believe the fact you're also left hand.
It didn't close it.
I was thought right away.
he'd be like bullshit.
You're both left.
Kirk, we're trying to come up with a fun like one-two punch.
We're trying to appeal.
We're trying to appeal in any way that we can.
Sometimes you just got to guess.
You don't know what's going to appeal.
I feel like a guy like Phil, you drop the left, you think.
He dropped the lefty.
I think I called him like lefty.
I was like, love the lefty.
I thought we sat again, me and Frank,
we had a whole little.
Mickelson would be much, I mean, I know Tiger would be a bigger land,
but Mickelson would be a much better guess.
He would try hard.
With the stories and all that?
I think Tiger, unless, I mean, Tigers never had that.
let you in interview.
It doesn't matter.
Tiger could count to the number like he.
Oh,
oh,
it told you.
Tiger could sit there and just count
to the number 187.
Then we just end the podcast
and it'd be the best interview we've ever done.
Well,
it's going to get more downloads for sure.
But I'm saying,
it's the only thing I would put in the show too.
We just do ad reads around it and that'd be it.
Six.
Seven.
I'm not sure if you do it'll be excited.
And we put a promo out like that and literally
our fans would be like that was electric.
But I think he was just staring at the cameras.
Like one.
Two.
That'd be awesome.
We could even like splice that into like how many
majors he's one right like every time he says one you show his first one two like i'm already
thinking of like promos numbers thing is i think he's gonna do rinky if we get tired we're doing more
than the count to 187th all right he bizarre if that's what got him something we can work he hears this
he's like yeah i don't think we take it off the table i think we keep it on the table i think we keep it
on the table who's been the best player guest so far one of my other than kisner i guess delivers
every time i would say matthew fitzpatrick was one of my favorite interviews that we've done
because he sat right here for like an hour and see i thought he would this maybe suck too but he was good
Yeah, you don't know.
You never know what these.
And when we saw him on the range at the U.S. Open, it was way more his, like, catty,
who was way more chit-chattie with us and this and that.
And then we had him in here, and his guy who came with him is like,
Handler's, his boy, his manager, wherever the guy was, was like,
hey, I got to take a phone call in the other room.
You guys have fun.
You just let him.
Some people's their PR fucking, they got a whole team and they stare at you all that.
I also thought Greg Norman.
Right.
When we had him on, we did like a full hour with him.
He was awesome.
He was an open book.
He was telling stories about Bill Clinton.
He was great.
Monty was good.
I forget a lot
because you've had,
like once you've had,
I don't know,
a bunch of different guys on.
Some of them,
too,
are just snoo fest.
You just never know.
It's hard.
Sometimes it's hard.
What?
I'm trying to think.
Who's the snoo's fast?
Yeah,
it's more interesting.
Hmm.
Oh, was Kevin Noss News Fest?
I don't think Kevin Nau was a snoose fest.
He wasn't like,
A,
it was on the phone,
so it's always a little different on the phone.
And B,
at one point,
we asked him about,
like, when he had the Yips
at the Players Championship.
Remember that at Sawgrass?
talking about that.
And he began his answer by like roasting us for asking it.
Oh,
it's a legit,
perfectly legitimate question.
He was like,
oh,
real original guys.
Like,
I don't get,
like,
I've never gotten that one before.
How many times do I have to dress this one?
And we were like,
well,
like one more time.
Because we just asked you.
We just asked us.
That was a little weird last night when he,
like,
thank God and hugged the reporter.
Oh my God.
The whole thing was weird.
In 2019,
Kevin's weeping.
I'm like,
you know,
first of all,
I think he's won the tournament before.
And then he,
on American television,
and he went into a Korean sermon, which it's like, fine.
I've said, if you're going to do that, leave it to one sentence.
A quick little sentence in Korean, that's great.
The whole thing was bizarre.
I thought at some point they're going to have to like Emmys him with the place,
start playing music out.
That interview was like 15 minutes too.
I'm like, did you fucking win the U.S. Open yesterday?
I mean, it's a nice tournament, but Jesus.
And he hugs her at the end.
He won borderline like the worst tournament on the PGA tour.
Yeah, and he's like, he's bawling.
It was out.
And he's won before.
He's won there before.
It was very strange.
No, it was weird.
That whole thing was just weird.
Very strange.
I don't want to tweet it out because I didn't know what he was saying in Korean.
Yeah.
Right.
Right.
And there could be things like there could be global happenings that I don't know about current events that he could have been addressing.
True.
And I could have tweeted out like how fucking weird was that?
And then I could have got, you know, canceled.
So I didn't say anything about it.
Right.
He was just like, my whole family is hostage.
You're like, get Kevin now off the fucking street.
Play the music.
If anyone is watching this, my family is being held hostage.
I was saying it out loud in my apartment.
I was not tweeting.
But yeah, the whole thing was, it was weird.
Having said that, I was rooting for him yesterday too, because he's kind of quirky.
We had him on the show.
He was a little quirky, but he was a nice guy, super nice guy on the show.
Can't wait a doesn't do much for me.
Yeah, he's a boring guy to watch golf.
Good player, but, you know.
Having said that, I would also say that Kevin Kisner is a really boring guy to watch golf.
True.
Yeah, you don't know until, right.
Totally.
So you don't know.
Right.
Which, that's one thing I've had to learn doing this is that some guys are actually awesome.
They can be born.
Like, I'll never forget when Kiz was in the playoff with Ricky.
And I think it was Sergio Garcia at the player's championship.
when Ricky ended up winning it.
Oh, yeah.
Remember when Ricky kept hit Making Birdie on 17,
the playoff, extra hole, all that?
And I remember being like,
Kiz, I think had a put on the 70 second hole to win.
And it, like, should have gone in and barely it down.
I remember thinking, thank God this boring fucking loser
didn't win the players.
And Ricky won it.
Turns out, Ricky, even though I love Ricky,
he heard him as a nicest guy,
he's actually a snooze fest in terms of personality
and with the media and all that.
And Kiz is the man.
So you never know.
Right.
Meanwhile, you go to a golf tournament,
everyone's wearing fowler stuff,
all the kids, although he has no personality at all.
He doesn't need to.
I guess not, but I mean,
another one does nothing.
He just rides on that brand of being like,
you have like three wins?
He's got five.
Five wins.
I remember it was the at,
what was it,
a TPC,
Scott's day this year he won his fifth one.
Remember his ball rolled back into the water?
He got a penalty for it?
That's right.
That was insane with like the new rules.
He placed his ball walk up.
He spent like two weeks talking about how Ricky like needed to start winning
because he was like getting into that part where he's five wins.
No, he was taking Ricky Shea shots all the time.
Ricky Shea shots.
In the media,
we don't do it.
They'll be like, you know, this guy's approaching Ricky Fowler number of wins, and they blow right by him.
They would do it all time.
And Ricky Fowler hasn't moved.
This fucking guy you've never heard of is now one win away for Ricky Fowler's career.
Kevin Nah must, does he have more wins now?
He's like, this would be a Riquet.
Yeah, right.
He must have five or six wins.
He's about three times in the last year.
He's like what we compare golfers who come out of nowhere and do well to.
It's like, no, Ricky's been here forever and he has that amount.
His follower ranks got here.
Is follower higher ranked in the world right now than Kevin now, who's 22nd?
He probably still is.
I think they're close, but I think he is.
I want to say I looked it up the other day and Ricky was like high teens, low 20s.
But you know what else got him up there?
A, the marketability and how strong his brand is.
And B, he had the one year where he's top five and all four majors.
What was that?
It was Rory's year.
So it was 2014.
That was five fucking years ago.
But he finished.
That was with him Phil.
Ricky's 19.
Kevin has 24.
24.
Okay.
So him, Ricky.
So Ricky, Phil, and Rory were all down the stretch of the PGA of Valhalla in the dark.
Remember that?
Yes.
And they let him play up on 18.
Right.
That's right.
But that was the year when everyone's like,
Oh, Ricky's right there.
He's on the precipice.
He's going to win a major.
He'd won a couple tournaments by that point.
He had, what year did he win Sawgrass?
Was it the next year?
It might have been.
So then that was his stretcher.
It was like, oh, Ricky's a superstar.
And he is, like, star power.
Yeah, but he's nothing else.
And he always, always on these Rider Cup teams,
but like we lose the Ryder Cup all time.
He was part of that spring break crew, people like that.
That's true.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's like.
Yeah, I'm not feeling it.
He, he like, won't do stuff with us, really.
He'd even try.
You try?
Well, we tried at the U.S.
And we were kind of right by the media and we try to pull them over.
So what's the Tiger Woods?
So if you say Tiger Woods, just pick a random guy.
Like, he's different, but like your random player.
How do you, do you go to them connected with them individually?
Do you go hunting down the tournament?
Do you go to their reps?
What are you?
It's a good question.
I would say for the most part, we go out.
Thank you.
We go directly.
You're welcome.
You should do a podcast.
I'm just great at the merits of your question.
I'm just curious to somebody, you know.
I like to tell the list of Armin Cattain, who wrote the book.
You wrote the Tiger Woods book.
I talked to the other guy.
What's the name?
Isn't that an amazing name?
The picture on the book is just a picture of Tiger Woods's face, and they named the book.
I had the other guy on Jeff Benedict, I think his name is on my old pod.
How was he?
Great.
Because, yeah, Armin was awesome.
Great.
The fucking book is great.
Yeah, the book is called Tiger Woods.
What do you want to?
I'm just like, I don't know how that wasn't taken already.
You know, a man for all seasons is taken.
Like, what do you want?
David Copperfield?
Yeah.
No, I turn the rye.
I love the name of the book.
But it's not the story of Tiger Woods.
It's just, Tiger Woods.
It's here.
It's here.
It's read it.
This is him.
We had him on it.
He kept telling Riggs after everything Riggs asked me.
He goes, well, that's a great question.
Oh, you like that, I got like seven of them.
It was, it was such a good feeling.
On the old show, my old radio show, we had Brady on every week, Tom Brady.
And every once in a while, he hated me.
Every once in a while, he'd say, you know what, Kirk, that's a good question.
And I look at Jerry and I'd be like, fuck you.
See, it's a good feeling.
Every once in a while you get that.
I would say our number one method is we go direct to the guy.
So a lot of times we'll look at who they, like, if they follow the barstool accounts.
and we'll, because we have access to those.
So if they follow Barsol-Me into that, we can just DM them.
That's how we originally started getting guys.
Now it's a lot of connections through other guys.
It's like Kizl hit guys up for us or Kizel will introduce us to introduce us to another.
Who stays in?
Can we get Louis on the show?
But yeah, a lot of, and then we got to go through the guys.
I see it with Dave because I help a lot with the pizza review guests.
Yeah.
And like Bobby Flay we just did.
And like Dave and Bobby Flay are like friends.
Meanwhile, I was going through our booker, and they're, like, telling me all these things.
Like, he, like, doesn't want to do it at this place, at this time.
I'm like, I don't think that's, like, true.
You just have them calls them.
It's like, Dave just, like, messages by place.
Like, are we going to do it tomorrow?
Like, yeah, I haven't heard about this, like, ever.
So if you go through the agencies, it's the worst.
We literally have on my podcast now, and we want to have people on to disagree with us a lot.
So maybe it's different, but nobody will come on with me anymore.
I mean, nobody.
Fucking they're like, no, no.
Because you're just going to battle them every time.
You're also probably talking to the agencies.
No, but sometimes we just connect with them one-on-one.
They're like, what does he want?
Nope, we don't want to talk to him.
Really?
They Google search, nope.
Yeah, a lot of that.
Because I think they think they're going to get in this big fight.
We originally had that with Bubba lost.
Which I like, I mean, you know.
We originally had that with Bubba where Bubba did a Google search and was like,
these guys fucking hate me.
What do they gain?
What do your guest gain by going on your show?
They get humiliated and know.
Exactly.
But they just run circles around him.
But unfortunately, you please call up and run your career.
Unfortunately, they've caught up to that line.
Yeah.
It's one point in history, they just said,
win, man. Clearly they disagree. I'm calling on the phone, which is like you said, it's always
a disadvantage. Well, you have Bubba. I think you had Bubba on when you and that, when we did the
Super Bowl shows. Yes, I went there and did it. Yes, yes. But that was one where that was actually,
and again, to a little peek behind the curtain is a lot of it is building up and using our
current connections like guys on tour that were friends with whatnot to give us credibility to their other
guys. So I know when we had, I don't know if I've said this in the pod before, but when we had
Bryson on, J.T. actually
listened to the Bryson interview and then J.T.
told a couple of people who I know that like he was
thinking about coming on because of how he thought
that interview went great. And then Bubba
actually reached out to JT and was like, hey, I know you've
worked with these guys before. Are they cool? Are they going to
like railroad me? What are they going to do? And J.T.
was like, so it's kind of like built on itself.
We randomly had Bubba on
promoting the travelers because we had to deal with him
on the old radio show and we were like, but
he was fucking great. Like he joked around with us.
It was when he, remember he bailed out of the Olympics
because of the, uh, he made fun of him because of
he fucking could break ball.
So I was, I, I have changed on him a little.
But yet, do you root?
If he's going down to stretch or somebody, you're rooting for him?
Bubba?
Yeah.
Not really.
I think I can't.
He gets, he, sometimes he gets on my nerves, but I'm a big cry guy.
I like to cry.
I'd like to cry with, with, he's a crying, man.
He cries and he cries and everything.
I'd love to like watch, I don't know.
You guys sit down and have a cry out.
I'll say we can watch them because I do this all.
I think I said this.
I was on one of these shows a couple weeks ago.
I said this.
I will, fuck, everybody does this.
But I will, like, put,
on these YouTube videos, these military family reunions,
and I'll fuck it. It feels good to cry.
It's like listening to sad music. It's comforting.
I'd like to enter a dark room.
Me and Bubba just sit next to each other.
We'd turn it and hit playing and just cry.
Yeah, just cry.
I got a confession to make.
Okay.
I did a guilty, not a guilty, like a pleasurable little cry session of myself to Elton John
singing candle to win at Princess Diana's funeral.
Holy moly.
Because I've been on a big Elton kick because I watched Rocket Man.
You have been on a big kick.
I loved it.
Really?
And I've never liked a musical in my life.
I loved it.
I thought the first 30.
minutes sucked, couldn't get into it.
And then once the really the story I started to develop and you got to a point where you kind of
recognize some of the life events.
Do you cry differently now with your eyes?
I don't know.
It's a good question.
It's a good question.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I'll tell you what.
I was waiting for an answer.
I was like, oh, wow.
I had to think of it.
Imagine he cried like, like, like, rainbow tears or something like in the same.
You know how like in like, just a mass like.
Enormous tears.
might be strange
and I look different when I cried
so the one of the funeral
was the goodbye English rose that whole thing
with the Princess Diana thing
that was emotional sure
very emotional
so how long you take you to cry during that
right away are you
pretty quickly
because I had already been on the whole thing
and I had done some of the research
on how was it Versace
who was their good friend
designer friend who died like a year before
or a month before
there were like photos of Princess Diana
consoling Elton at the funeral
like a month before
and now here he is
prove it let's see these
tears.
Go ahead.
Honestly,
I've already cried out all the tears.
It was a whole scene.
We were at the Yankee game,
not that Jared would ever
care about that.
And this little girl,
she came out,
like,
I don't know,
she was like nine years old.
She said,
God bless America.
She hit one of these notes.
I started,
like, tearing up.
Yeah.
I was in,
like, we were in, like,
a suite with, like,
all these guys and, like,
I was like,
just looking up in the corner of my...
Don't be afraid.
Don't, don't run away from that.
I actually,
like, you know what I did.
I act like my contact.
I was like,
I said out loud, I'm like, man, my fucking contact is like, I say that all the time.
You don't have to justify it.
Just let it happen.
People do know I'm a cry guy in that.
It's okay.
I cry all the time.
Crime means you care.
Nothing yet.
Nothing.
It's a good release.
Yes.
Therapeutic for sure.
So Bubba, I was going to say, we too.
It was just Jake and myself went there.
We met him, played golf of him in the interview after.
He couldn't have been fucking nicer.
He was funny.
He was telling hilarious stories about.
But you only think that he was doing that.
So I do.
I think that he.
It's a PR move.
I think he obviously invited us in.
He wasn't going to be like a dickhead to us because he invited us there.
He knew what was going to happen.
He's going to make a video.
These guys are going to help your image and all that.
But I also don't think for five.
That's the beauty of golf.
That's why it's big in business and all that.
It's because you can't hide for five hours.
That's true.
Like whoever you are, largely.
Now I've heard Bob is a little bit like bipolar.
Sometimes you can get him on a bad day.
And if you're a rep for one of the companies that works with him,
he might be a little bit of a dick or this, that.
Fine.
I'm sure that happens.
But to us, he was awesome.
I mean, Jake and I loved him.
He's the nicest fucking guy in the world.
He's having one of these odd careers.
First of he's older than you think.
And secondly, he's having one of these odd careers where he's like, like even last year.
Like you won three times last year.
Then he goes away.
Then he comes back.
He's always playing with retirement.
He's like, I got these candy stores that I want to run.
Right.
And it's strange.
But you can also win the Masters now.
Yeah.
He's also a guy who I think his success rate that week is so determined by whether he like
thinks he can win him that course.
Well, there are certain courses where he just has no.
Right.
You watch him on the first team out of the tournament.
No way he makes it.
U.S. Open or British Open.
He shouldn't even play.
Yeah.
And you're like, wait, he's won three tournaments in the last like two months.
Right. He's the seventh in the world or something.
It's weird.
All right, Kirk.
He was born in Baghdad, Florida.
Yeah, I know.
How old is he now?
40.
Which Baghdad, Florida is like bum fuck Florida.
Oh, yeah.
He was raised with.
You know what you guys are you from?
Baghdad.
Wow.
Really?
Holy shit.
You wouldn't think it.
Like Florida.
Florida.
Oh.
Man, you look different.
It's a little different.
Oh, where were you born?
Baghdad.
You know, you guys.
Holy fuck, dude.
Are you kidding?
You guys should play some of those courses, though, like the real, fucking super rural, like.
I know.
Go down to, like, the middle of Mississippi and go play one of those nine old courses somewhere.
That would be interesting, no?
Yeah, the problem is then we have to go to Mississippi.
So what?
Does America fucking embrace it?
No, I'm not saying, I don't want, but it's like a hassle to get to.
How do you even get to?
What do you think?
You have a fucking spaceship to get there?
They have airports there, too.
Fucking asshole?
You're in New York.
We're on Talladega next weekend.
Talladega?
That's in the middle of nowhere, I feel like.
You excited for that?
Yeah.
My name's on a.
car.
All right,
Frankie.
That is pretty
exciting.
It's fucking sick.
You always
going to say,
the two of you
should sit down,
you and Bubba
in the same room,
and you should watch
one of those adoption,
like 60 second
emotional adoption videos,
you both start crying.
I'll cry at anything,
man.
I like the ones where
they get the hearing aid
for the first time.
They hear all those
or the seeing color
for the first time.
I'm big on those.
Unbelievable.
Yeah,
you'll be leaking in no time.
Oh yeah.
I mean,
who doesn't cry during that?
It's impossible.
I can't imagine.
It doesn't seem possible.
What was one I cried at
recently.
I also like the ones
the military ones
where we come home
were good but it's also
when the dog sees
the dog
that's a big one
there was one where
they um
the couples like one
the wife quit her job
and the husband
and they spent like 87 days
looking for their dog
and then they capture the moment
yeah the one where the teenager
has done anal
and the stepmother shows
are how to do it
oh yeah yeah
she's 18 she's 18
she's not out of Roman
those are
those are really
so sick
she cries she cries during it
very believable
she does go
when do you when do you
when does your
When does your podcast come out?
We want to plug anything here?
You're a real pro.
It's every day, Frankie.
Thanks for listening.
Every day.
Every day.
Holy shit.
Two and a half, three hours every single day.
Holy shit.
I get that long.
I get your enemy.
Thanks for listening.
I get your enemy,
Karabas today.
This morning, I went on his podcast and he's like,
it's like, why don't you do radio too?
I'm like, so I'm doing fucking three hours a day.
Am I going to do three more?
To talk about what?
Do you like doing the podcast more?
More than the radio?
Yes, more.
Why?
Way more freedom.
Way, like what we just did right here.
Now you have to come.
some language stuff out.
I've never understood.
If you're driving in the car
in a radio station,
do you want to listen to four guys
who get along,
bullshit, have a good time,
or some fucking guy talking about
the offensive line somewhere.
Right.
That has never made sense to me.
Especially in the video.
2019 where you can just get all that information
from Twitter.
I already know everything in sports
by the time I leave my bed in the morning.
Yeah.
I mean,
you know,
I don't know.
I got,
so I keep a car in the city
and I only keep it during the summer
to go play golf.
But I, in the mornings,
whenever I'm driving around in there,
you realize my fucking
Bluetooth thing broke and I can't re-sync it
and so I have to scroll through the radio
and the morning radio might be the worst
We play bad radio all the time
Except for bar but I'm saying I don't
My car I don't have serious
So it's just like whatever's on that
What's not?
What'd you just talk? No bars through breakfast
Shend the show yeah no you fucking hate them
I do no I don't even you know what I hate about them
Is that they don't it's like we're saying before
They don't play along I'm just kidding around
It's a fucking joke just play along
Is it that hard?
I think they play along in their own
No me
Yeah they didn't like you too
They hate the fact
that I was offered their job and I said no.
What do you want me to say?
They did not like the two phone call thing.
What's the reality?
What do you want me to say?
If they had that over me, I'd be like, well, all right, fine.
I like, you know.
I like you, but I like Willie and Largemore.
But good.
I just wanted that on the record.
Fuck do I care.
Great.
You don't even know each other.
The only reason I say that because I know he doesn't give a fuck.
I don't think we've ever even met before.
And they're way bigger.
Yeah.
Yeah, we met.
When?
The Super Bowl.
Oh, yeah, you did the Super Bowl last year.
That's where I met Riggs, too.
The first time I met Kirk, and it was actually perfect for he and I
because we were up there on radio with Dave at the Patriots Super Bowl,
so it was all Pat's fans in there.
And we basically were just able to subtly chirp how, like, pathetic all the fandom was the whole time.
I mean, I understand it's part of the game, but it was guest after guest after guest.
Oh, man.
Gast after guest.
I'm like, I have nothing to ask Herschel Walker.
I just don't.
I'm empty.
I mean, crunch.
And then we just, who came on that was just the worst guest?
Oh, the receiver.
The watch.
No, um, it wasn't Juju.
Who?
Ridley
Calvin Ridley.
Yes.
Remember all bad guys?
Worst guests we've ever had.
We had them on and we're sitting there.
He didn't answer one question.
He's like,
he had some watch and I'm like,
boy,
that's an expensive watch.
How much is it?
Like,
I don't know.
Okay.
How'd you do this year?
Yeah.
I'm like,
why are you here?
Then that's,
that's when we really had fun because it just turned into me.
Kirk's just making little.
I was like,
Kirk, great question, man.
It was something.
You're welcome on the cousins anytime.
I love the cousins.
I love the cousins.
I'm here.
I'm here.
I'm here.
I'll do whatever you guys want.
I'm a team player.
God knows.
So Kirk Menehan, your podcast is out every day.
Every day.
11 o'clock, it drops every single day, five days a week, every single day.
Yes.
Every single day.
Go check it out.
Go check it out, yeah.
Download, subscribe, rate, five stars, all that.
Let's talk some golf again soon.
I'm going to play in, I'll play next year for sure.
You're going to play in the Varsal Classic.
First of all, I know we've got to finish up here.
What a fucking ridiculous.
I like Whitney, but what an embarrassing display.
Oh, yeah.
I put that on here.
What a fucking embarrassing display by it.
He's an embarrassment.
I mean, I'm actually, I like, go back and forth with him in like a joking manner.
Oh, he really pissed me off this weekend.
Over this?
He, like, DM me, like, you're such a pussy.
Over this whole thing?
Yeah, like, because all I did was facilitate the cut.
I'm the producer, Barcerade, so I had to call him.
Right.
He's mad about that.
Yeah, it's, I had to physically call him on our radio show.
He's like, you made my son cry.
Did you listen to the phone call?
His son's crying in the back room?
Oh, yeah.
I was telling Rick's, I was in the drama the whole week.
He's like, you miss, he goes, you miss, made my son cry.
So I took a picture of the Pink Whitney bottle at the Coliseum, and he goes, don't drink my drink.
Well, blaming the fucking pussy.
So then I went off on him.
I'm like, you'll never be anything in golf as much as you want to be.
And he didn't like that.
You said this to him privately?
Yeah.
It's funny when you think of like really like where this started.
You guys want to play a golf match.
And now guys are.
And he's like, go Islanders, bro.
He like really didn't have much to go back of me.
And I was like, I just wrote back, imagine having a coach to play in local member guest tournaments.
Well, that's a little strange.
And he's like, I practice.
sue me or something like that.
I kind of had them on the ropes.
I'm disappointed more than Dave on this one.
Because, you know, I always hear about
Barstle loyalty more important than anything.
And Whitney's talking about, you know, a match
would get some buzz. People would watch it.
I'd be into it. I was thinking of going and watching that that day.
It's in my state.
And like, and Whitney's like, yeah, I'm just a member of porn.
I was like, oh, okay, you should have been like, fuck you.
Don't want your amateur status.
You're playing in this fucking thing.
Where I will say, the four ball is sick.
Like, the four balls essentially, it's like a USGA version of like the
Boston Classic.
I mean, they really are the US amateur.
Like, you know, people get fucking jacked up for it.
I understand that.
And I understand where he's coming from.
My part is that, like, I don't think it ever would have been a problem had he not brought it up.
Well, that was the big.
That was the big choice.
Because Barstle is a place in which they can make exceptions for the rule.
There is no other world in the internet or anywhere where two guys, amateurs are going to get thousands of people to watch them play golf for $10,000 in their money.
They'll never have to deal with that problem again.
Like, no other two people will ever have to be like, well, Barstle did it.
Let us do it.
They're never going to be in that situation, ever.
They're never going to be able to get a golf course to give them their location.
Like, we did everything.
I think.
Riggs's take, I think, is that you think when he thinks he's going to choke in the big spot.
I hate that, too.
I hope that gets back to Whitney.
He hates when people's that.
Well, I mean, I think so, too.
I don't know him at all.
I've talked to him a few times.
He's a very nice guy.
When I've talked to him, he's super helpful me before I signed up Barstallie, walk me through some stuff.
I like him.
I can't believe he's not playing in this thing.
That is fuck.
To me, someone has to walk me through it.
I listened to all of it last week.
It is madness to me.
I will say the last week has been very surprising.
I think it's been public image-wise, the worst week that Winnie's had.
And we had him on the ropes on the ropes on the radio.
You have them on the ropes.
It's been a weird thing.
He responded to me, go islanders, bro, instead of, like, coming back at me, like, usually he does.
Having said all that, right?
Like, we're friends at Whitney.
Like, when we played golf at Spyglass and we were out there covering the U.S.
Open, like, we grabbed a couple Pink Whitney's on, like, the third hole.
We're all having drinks laughing.
Like, we had a great time, even though we had a pretty good match and all that.
Like, we are friends arrived when he comes in off camera.
Like, we, like, we genuinely like the guy.
He's fucking hilarious.
I think it's got to be deeper than just what we saw play out in terms of the rules and the use, just that.
Like, I think there's a part of it doesn't want to play.
Now, I don't know if that's necessarily because he's scared or if he just really doesn't care about it, which has been Dave's theory and all that.
But then he should have said that the whole time because he's letting everybody get hyped up about it.
But he's letting us blow it up.
He's letting Barstle do a whole production.
Dave was going to go all the way up to Hamden, Massachusetts, which is bum-fuck nowhere.
Big Cat was going to go all the way up to Hamden, Massachusetts.
It's bumfuck nowhere.
Like it was a big production that he basically didn't let us know until a week before
that he doesn't really care about that much.
The thing that pisses me off is that he always acts like nothing matters to him in the
Barstle world.
And that really gets on my nerves a lot of the time because like without Barstle, he would, he'd just
be a retired NHL player that golfs.
And yes, he'd have a great life.
Yes, he'd have $40 million.
A beautiful family, nice house, country clubs, the whole thing.
But he's clearly doing this for a reason.
This is like solidifying his post career.
This is what he's doing with his life is he's making a name for himself.
Ryan Whitney now has a fucking alcohol named after.
him because of Barstall's sports.
But that was my larger point is that like stop acting like this doesn't mean anything.
That's my only thing.
All you're cool.
When I talk to Dave is hey, look, Barstle first, Barstle first.
I agree with it.
I'm working here.
I'm happy to work here.
You can't be like, eh, four ball.
You're either in or not in.
That's all.
That's what I think.
And so it was surprising to me.
He acts of Barstow's on the back burner.
Like, what the fuck am I going to play Riggs sports?
Like, dude, this is like your job now.
Why are you acting like it's a joke?
And it's a, it's a, it's bringing together your job and your favorite thing is the reason.
The reason why you have Pink Whitney is because of bars.
That's a pretty cool opportunity.
Very cool.
I would love to play in that.
That's what I keep telling people.
People all the time are like, aren't you nervous?
Like, are you going to build this?
I'm like, dude, I get to play in front of what will end up being hundreds of thousands.
It's not millions of people.
And I get to play for huge stakes.
Like, think about how hard you try to recreate that.
You go to member guests.
You go to USGA four balls.
Why?
Because you're trying to create like an important environment where you have to prove something athletically.
And like, that's what me and Whitney had with a huge audience is the coolest.
It would have been that we said.
It would have been the biggest amateur golf match
In the history of the internet
Try to think of two people that aren't pros
That play against each other
That would have been viewed by any other one
That would have been viewed by as many people
No yeah, it would have got
It would have been
It would have been the biggest amateur golf match
Of all time
It would have been millions of views
More people would have watched that match
Than watched last night's final round out
Yes, I'm serious
No doubt
Do I got PGA tour guys
In the top fucking 20 or 30 in the world
texting me like can't believe Whitney backed out
This guys were like
Names
People were fired up to a
What kids? JT
Those guys are the
genuinely like I can't believe this is not.
Once I talked to a couple players after.
First thing he said to me is Wednesday Whitney Riggs match.
I didn't see it.
I'm like,
it's canceled.
They couldn't believe it.
Word was spreading around the NHL.
Like, are you fucking kidding?
This thing's not going on.
The thing is now,
if it eventually happens,
you will be the overwhelming crowd favorite.
That's the thing.
Whitney has now embraced the heel role.
Dude,
the last fucking text he said to me too was,
so I had found like another solution that I thought and I'm like trying to
entertain it,
trying to talk to him,
which again,
trying to set all this shit up.
Is the one you told me before?
Yes.
Trying to set all this up is really hard because it's, you're dealing with like, you're doing
Whitney, Whitney's on his own schedule.
He might be golfing all time and then with his kid who's like shitting in the back seat
and all this stuff.
His own schedule is like his own rounds of golf that he books.
The last thing I said was like, hey, like, so there's this event in Bermuda that we might go to.
He also has shown interest in going separately.
I found this out.
Bermuda is not under the USGA.
It's under the R&A.
So these people who I was talking to Bermuda, like, that's in like a month or two months.
So I hit him up.
It was like, hey, there's this idea.
What would you think about doing that?
He goes, I'm playing in the USGA tournament and leaving Thursday night.
I'm playing in that tournament.
I'm leaving Thursday night.
I will play you after May if I feel like it, is what he said.
I kind of like it.
He's embracing the evil role.
I get that, but then, like, publicly, he doesn't ever want to come off like a little bit of a coward.
He doesn't want to play the match.
So he, like, tries to blame it all on us.
It's like, if I feel like it.
You think he'll crumble under the pressure.
Just say it.
Just fucking say it.
Oh, I've said that for, I've said that for a long time.
I know Whitney is better than I am at golf.
That's what the handicapped system exists for.
But I do the reason that I think I'll win this match
Because I don't think he will handle it under pressure
I think he's proven that
He's got swing coaches and shit
If you're if you've got 40 million dollars in the bank
You played in the NHL so you've got some of the best athletic ability in the world
And you've got swing coaches and you're only like a two who we've seen play bad golf before
Like clearly there's some flaws in your game
And I think we'll exploit that under pressure down the stretch
Which is why he's not winning mass amateurs and shit all the time
That's right here there you go
That's been my take and that's where this whole thing started from
Kurt being in the room just gets us like throwing people on it.
I hate to do that.
I don't know.
I hate to see it.
He did that to me on the show too.
He's fucking bringing people up when I was on his podcast.
How do you feel about these guys?
You fucking hate them.
Just say it.
Oh, maybe, Kurt.
Fuck.
Yeah.
Not the MS.
SMR-Hard.
Is anybody you hate karate?
Anybody else in the building you hate?
No, I love everyone here.
I really genuinely do.
Everyone?
There's no one.
Oh, there's a little kid named Avery.
He's an intern.
He's a Ranger fan.
Honestly, if I could do it bodily harm to him,
I would. I know it's like parody law. I wouldn't do it actually. But like I fucking hate that kid.
So you guys are, but you guys are nice guys. Well, you're not, but these two guys are nice guys.
I get hotheaded. You do. That's okay, though. I like it. I like it. Trans probably
pretty easy going, man. Very nice guy. Trans mode. I would say we're all pretty easy going in the office.
Yeah. That's good. I don't know we hate anyone. That's good. No, I pop in and pop out a couple
times a year. It's good. Yeah, I like the, yeah, I like the hate. I like, I like your vibe.
I like almost everybody here, though. That's, you know, unfortunately. I do. So far, so far so good.
You got good vibes.
You got great, just podcast radio.
You just bring the good vibes.
It gets everybody going.
I try to.
I'm on with you guys today.
I think later.
Yeah, you are.
When is dropping?
What day is this dropping?
This will be out tomorrow morning.
Tomorrow morning.
What we say today because people listening to it are listening to it today.
That's true.
But I'm referring to it.
This trips up.
Frankie all the time.
If you're not used to that.
If you're not used to that.
You know, like podcast coming out the next day.
But let's teach you how it's done.
We're recording it on Monday.
Who are you talking to?
Yeah.
Watch out.
Hold on.
We're just talking about how much we all like you,
but you record your podcast.
Do you do it in the morning and then release the same day?
Yeah, but sometimes we'll,
sometimes we'll drop,
we'll do two in the day and then we just roll over it though.
We're just,
I actually do the same thing.
I get fucking baffled all the time.
How much you,
is a Thursday?
How much do you edit out?
Do you edit out a lot?
Almost nothing.
Yeah, that's how we are.
You ready to go to war with Dave Portney on radio today?
Yeah,
what are we going to?
I don't know.
He's so skinny right now.
He's so skinny right now.
He just looks unhealthy.
I think he's going to like to hear that because he,
I hate to say this because I do get along well with him.
It's October.
He's going to die.
Oh, shut the fuck up.
All right.
Get Kirk off.
I'm just saying he's too sick.
He's healthy.
He's healthy.
He's healthy.
Let him go.
This would be a big clip for our show.
I just say, you put him right in there.
You could probably bury him next to Stella, which is probably what?
Oh, my God, dude.
What the fuck are we talking about it?
What?
This is too much.
What's wrong with that?
Can you apologize?
Who says that shit?
Stella, that would be a rough life next to course.
It's too soon.
For what?
It's a fucking dog.
I'm so sick of this.
I take back everything.
It is a devastating, traumatic loss.
I lost two parents in seven weeks.
I may get a sliver of the sympathy.
This asshole did.
A lot of people feel more sympathy towards dogs than they do humans.
They're fucking weird.
That's why.
People are fucking weird.
It's a human being.
Dogs shit on the ground.
That's a horrible thing to say.
What is?
You said you're not even going to repeat.
The dog's shit on the ground?
No.
What do you want me to say?
What do you think he's going to die about it?
What was your...
I'm going to say May 18th, 2020.
Oh, wow.
Oh, natural causes.
He's too skinny.
I think something's wrong.
Well, of course he's unhealthy.
Yeah, but I think so in all the, what's facing.
He's not unhealthy.
All the booger sugar that we've seen.
He doesn't do that.
Well, well, I mean, he doesn't do it.
He only does Adderall.
I probably leave everything in.
What are you talking about?
No, he only does Adderall.
Right.
No, I meant like, let's cut the show at this point before this guy keeps going on.
What, saying something interesting?
Why don't you tell more stories about that Avery fucking wilder you have.
Fucking people care about that.
I feel bad that this dog died.
I like Dave.
All I'm saying is, what?
I'm just saying.
Dave knows he's unhealthy.
Dave isn't exercising and he does that.
He's not going to die by May 18.
I don't think he's going to die either.
I'm saying,
wouldn't you want to be buried with the dog or no?
It's so fuck.
Why is that fucked up?
People do that.
Is that fucked up?
Okay.
If he loves the dog, I mean, what am I saying?
If I really sat down and thought about it logically,
it's probably not that insane to ask.
What's the issue?
What is he?
Jesus?
I can't criticize it?
The reason is because it's very,
it's insensitive.
The fact that his dog just died
and now you're saying he might die.
Oh, yeah, I suppose I can see.
Some of them I think that's in sense of the short.
But he's not, he's not going to die.
Not till May, yeah, it's a long way away.
He's like, 43.
Think about this way.
If I hung you upside down by your balls and said, it's until May, you'd be like, holy fuck, right?
Yeah.
So it's a long time.
Agreed.
It's an interesting way to look at it.
That's how I always think of things.
Yeah, but if you hung me up with my balls for five seconds, I'd be like this is way too long.
Okay, but if I said to you 30 seconds or till next May, which did you choose.
I know how you are sexually.
30 seconds.
You might go till next May.
30 seconds.
Fine.
What's what I'm saying?
Radio's going to do something today, man.
There's a sick fuck.
Would you cry at one of those videos if it was Dave being buried next to Stella?
Oh, uh, yeah, it'd be a mess.
You and Bubba Watson would cry together?
Yes.
Well, there you go.
Why is radio?
He's not going to get mad at that.
I don't know if I would I cried right now?
Oh, he's not.
What?
What's that?
No, he won't.
I mean, he's going to think that it's a wildly insensitive thing to bring up.
Here's a question on that.
I'll ask if Portnoy died, right?
Yeah.
Would you cry on the air talking about it?
Yes.
You would?
Would you?
I don't know, probably
I think so
Dude, I've been with him
Every single day for three years
I do a two hour radio show
With him every day
He's so impersonal though
My life
Yeah, no he knows
Is he ever said like a nice thing to you really?
Yes
To me
About me but never directly
Right, that's what I mean
Yeah, he's maybe said two things
I've been here about six years
But he changed my life
He changed everyone's lives
We got like I'd be a security guard otherwise
True
Yeah but that's hard to like cry for
You know like
I'm saying like personal
You could argue like the finance department
Giving you money
led to that?
So would you cry if, like,
the finance department just died?
I think that's different.
But,
but, like,
they didn't hire me.
How was a finance department die?
Just maybe a,
get here.
An attack?
Well, Frankie was shitting all over Stella,
which is ridiculous.
That was a great dog.
If Dave cried and we had to talk about in radio,
I would cry, yes.
If Dave died.
Died.
I'd take a month off of work.
Well,
there wouldn't be any word.
Well, yeah,
because you'd be finally be able to go on vacation.
No,
I'd be like,
what happened to Barstool?
If Dave died?
Yeah,
who would assume that position?
I don't know.
It'd be one that we need tough top
Many people to fill
Avery?
Fuck that kid
I hope that shit, right?
He's the worst
I hope that he ticks you off
So you just end him
Oh fuck yeah
To what?
What'd you say?
I hope he ticks you off somehow
So that you just end him
I don't think he's not
Bothered me, is he?
I don't know
He's just got a punchable face
Yeah
You know no one would take Dave's office
Because it's awful
It's a bad office
Well I even know where it is
I don't know anything around here
It's just like closet on the side
Of all the content area
All right
Well
All right Kirk
What an ending
A lot of golf talking
Press and peace.
Yeah.
That's true.
King of the toys.
Yes.
All right, boys.
Do you hate dogs?
I have a dog.
I don't.
You love your dog or not?
No, no, no.
I think he's mad that Stella got more sympathy than your parents?
Is that what you said?
No, why you're shooting on my parents?
You brought that up.
My mom's birthday is today.
I'm glad she's not around to see what you said about Dave.
That's ridiculous.
How dare you say that?
You're offended I am?
I'm so hurt.
Dude, I'll be honest.
I wanted to say that so bad.
And then I didn't know how I was going to feel coming out of my mouth.
It feels good, doesn't it?
It felt great.
That's what I'm saying.
That's my hope you live.
That's where you live.
Yeah.
I can get mad at you.
I couldn't get mad at you for saying.
All right.
Holy shit.
It is nice a little bit of the spot where you won't get mad at that.
That's nice.
And my mom doesn't have to listen to bars to a breakfast.
All right.
All right.
That's going to do it.
It does feel good.
I'm done.
Just say.
Kirk Middhan's show.
Check it out every day.
All right, boys.
