Fore Play - “History at Shinnecock” with Dave Portnoy

Episode Date: May 30, 2018

2018 U.S. Open champ and Barstool Sports founder Dave Portnoy joins the show to relive his victory at Shinnecock (shooting 67* with unlimited mulligans). Dave breaks down his strategy, execution, and the warm reception he received at Shinnecock Hills. For the rest of the show, Trent, Frankie and Riggs talk Lucas Glover's crazy wife, super pairings at this week's Memorial, and if it's acceptable to leave the guy you were randomly matched up with to play alone. Packed show, let's do this!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Yes, right? Yes. And what we kind of work through during the, when we're talking to Dave, is that we were so blinded by Shinnecock and this and how hard it's going to be. And it's a U.S. open course. It's just we completely underestimated everything. He made a great point where he said, it's a golf course. It's a golf course that people belong to. And people wouldn't belong to it if you just couldn't play the golf course.

So he's like, clearly, you can just play the course and I can figure it out. And he gets into a lot more details and all that, but that was a good point. We were blinded. We wanted golf. We wanted Chinatogacocker. We wanted the U.S. Open to be like this paramount, unbeatable, unbelievably difficult thing. And when you boil it down to the strategy that he had, it was never even close. It sucked for me because I was in this position where I wanted the golf course to win because as a golf fan and part of Foreplay Pod, like I really agreed with you guys.

I thought that this was an impossible feat. And I got to be honest, when we talk about it later with Dave, but when I picked him up to go out the Shinnock, I was actually the one giving him those instructions on saying, like, you know what, man? Like, I believe in you right now because it is just a golf course. Like, we must have said that in the car about 15 times. I'm like, because I always say this with my buddies. Just very recently, I'm like, hey, guys, you guys want to go play the black to me and my friends in our group chat. And they're like, no, I'm not ready for the black. I'm like, what's going to happen?

It's a golf course. There's T-boxes, there's fairways, there's green. What are you not going to shoot a, like a five-under, like, and you're not going to win championships? Like, just go out there and have a good time. It's still a green. It's still bunkers. It's the same shit. It's true.

It's very true. If you have unlimited shots, it doesn't matter what's on the left and what's on the right. Because you're never going to be there. It's going to be there. T-box to fairway to green. I was talking to him, like, I felt like Joel Olstein in the car. I'm like, I literally said, like, it's T-box to fairway to green. That's all you're going to worry about.

There's no problems. There's no water. It's easy. It's true. It's easy. And it ended up being really easy. He finished like an hour before you had to and he was four under. We were at a point chart where I looked at my phone and I saw the time.

I said, Dave, you are six holes ahead of the pace. That's insane. So we get into all the details with Dave. It's a great discussion. I know a lot of people are into this. Shout out to Colin C-O-L-I-N is his name. So this is the listener. We're going to do some from the gallery later.

reminder that you're from the gallery submission if you email for play at barstlesports.com could become uh international sensation in the world of golf it can become the biggest thing of the office for like a week he emailed us on april 9th 2018 it's a quick question for you guys how many mulligans would it take to win the masters could it be possible with unlimited even with unreachable holes uh i didn't read that email until well after the masters so i just changed it to the u.s open we discussed it on this here podcast next thing you know the usg a invites us out Dave out after he embraced the whole thing and said I could definitely do that. He, the minute he heard it, came in with just the most confidence you've ever heard in your life, said he could do it. This guy, Collins, question went all the way to the top, went as far as it could go.

We figured it out. We got the answer. We talked to Dave about all that. It's great stuff. When you texted me and said, it was like a moment I think I'll always remember when you're like, the USGA just sent me this email and they're going to allow Dave to do the challenge. I'm like, I'm thinking of myself like where? Like Eisenhower, red by my house. And he's like, Shinnecock.

I was at the movie theater. I, I gasped out loud. I was watching Deadpool. And I went, whoa. And my girlfriend's like, what the fuck you doing? I'm like, you don't even know. Like, we're about to set the world on fire, the golf world on fire. Dave's going to Shinnecock to play the U.S. Open with Unlimited Mulligans.

Like, I could not believe the USGA with all these years of thinking about golf being stuck up and like, too good for like this common man golfer. think about you. You just have that feeling about them. They're just like the coolest guys ever and they're just like come do this awesome challenge. Dude, so what happened was the USGA, they're awesome. They've been very cool with us from the beginning. And we, just as the four play guys, we already had credentials pretty much lined up for US Open Week. And with that, they had also said, okay, you guys get two spots in the media day, which is just a shotgun start.

You know, you can maybe bring a camera, we'll have to talk about it. But you got two spots in Media Day to play some golf. And we were like, cool, great. And I was like, all right, Dave, we're going to bring you out there. We're going to do the Unlimited Mologin thing. But, like, not really because we can't hold up the whole golf course. We'll have to figure out something to do. We were kind of bouncing ideas around.

What can we do? And then my parents were in town Saturday before we went, two days before we're supposed to be at Shinnock, day and a half. And I got that email from Craig, our guy, Craig. And I was sitting at the bar of my parents having a couple drinks, like rehashing the whole weekend that we had had their first time in New York, by the way. They loved it. It was a great time. I met them. They're very good people. They're very nice. They had a great time. So shout up to everybody that showed them a good time in New York, especially me. I get the email, and it's like, we are embracing the unlimited Mulligan's debate. Dave is going to have five hours and 15 minutes. We will see you at Shinnock. All we ask is that you abide by the normal etiquette, traditional etiquette of golf, bring it, whatever you need to bring to film it.

And I was just stuck in my tracks. And I went back and re-read the guy's email. address to make sure it wasn't somebody fucking with us. Everything. And I was like, oh my God. And then it happened. And people, I mean, our numbers and everything on the Periscope lives, on the videos, on the tweets, people were obsessed. It had the people, like, the USDA guys that were following us were coming up to Riggs and everyone.

They're like, you guys see these numbers that are going on, like these videos? This is like the most traction we've ever had on Twitter ever. It's just like my personal Twitter. I mean, it goes to the bigger picture of like, this is why Barstle should be embracing. by every single big-time media outlet or governing body in sports. But it's more specifically to golf where it's like, we have this thing and we have this audience that are very interested. And if we do interesting things,

it's going to bring so many eyeballs to your tournament and your course that you're not even going to fucking believe it. And that finally someone was like, yes, come and do it. And it fucking worked. Like the numbers that they had to have for the tweets that, like, Dave was in and you were in talking about the Unlimited Mulgin thing, off the charts. They probably get like one to two likes on everything else and everything now.

This is the old-to-the-storm of things. storm of things that we do best though right it's a it's a debate it there's a physical challenge involved and it gets people going you know how many group chats and how many people that were arguing amongst just their friends like do you think dave i was getting text from 10 different groups of like group texts and buddies and this and that being like where's he at is he really at 200 i mean 10 different groups of people and probably 40 different people are texting me like is he really doing that my buddy's from home my dad's friends like everybody i got a message from someone in the islanders organization that was at

the facility saying we have a pool going right now at the office like what is Dave going to shoot like they're asking me all this questions how far does he hit his drives me too clubs are is he going to use on the par threes whose clubs are you using is he have a glove i'm like they're they're handicapping all these things as to like they're putting massive amounts of money down on dave's like gamble on days day one of the assistant fucking pros at colonial where they had the tournament last weekend he said that when kevin kisner checked in on monday he checked in and all he said was anybody know how Perez is doing the check on.

It's insane. It's just one of those moments. It should make a movie about it. I mean, I know we're making the video, but it's not going to, it's not, the video we're putting out, it's not going to generate how big it actually was, because it's just going to show our day.

What the feeling about it was almost like you were watching the US Open. It felt like the perfect, it felt like the movie the greatest game ever played with like, Francis, we met. Just like everyone's following us. Like, what's this guy doing? and see, and we got the email from the U.S. Open.

I felt like I was part of the movie The Greatest Game Ever played. We had a USGA official walking with us. We got caddies. We got, there was a crowd. There were stooleys coming out of the fucking, literally out of the woods. I don't know what T-box it was, but it was, I think Y.P. Went to the Bad news right by the clubhouse. And like, just these five men, like, in just suits just, like, gravitated out of the clubhouse.

It's like the 14T or something. It was just, like, the owners of Shinnecock just, like, gravitated out, and they're just, like, looking upon us and just, like, laughing their ass off. I'm like, what is going? You know what that was like? That was like when we saw those guys just appeared out of the woods at Augusta. By the 11th Cree. Remember that? Those guys in suits?

Yes. And they just showed up out of nowhere. That was exactly what it was. Except I thought we were going to be like, I thought for sure, when they saw Dave just taking like 10 to 15 shots in the fairway and just kept teeing up balls, they were going to be like, all right, what's going on on my golf course? They were laughing. And Dave ends up saying like what people were coming out to him and saying when we interview him

later, they were more than happy to have us there, which is insane to think. think about it was awesome it was really really cool when we rolled up all the pros from shinnock they were like you know uh they had asked me to bring a barstool a flag we did they're like let's get a picture all a bunch of stooleys so one of the proes everywhere put on a bib your caddy was a pro oh yeah yeah i'm like oh how long you've been looping here he's like dude i'm a pro here he's like i just wanted to come out and watch this so one of the assistant pros was like give me the bib i'm caddy in for the barstool group unreal um awesome guys so again barstool i mean this is what we've been saying about golf for a long time.

We're not going to pat ourselves in the back, but we are exactly what golf needs. This was fun. This was engaging. This got people paying attention to something an event a month before it's going to take place that everybody's now jacked up about. Everybody's excited to watch Shinnock. Shout out to the USDA who embrace this whole thing from minute one. Everybody always gets pushback when they're going to work with us, especially a big

public organization like the USDA. They're not letting that slow them down at all. They're loving it. They're embracing it. They get it. That we're just good people that like to make people laugh. I like to have fun with the game, like to do interesting stuff, and that's exactly what this was. So it was great.

We talked more about it with Dave, and like Frankie said, they're working on the full video. That'll be out soon. Colonial. We had Colonial this week. It was Memorial Day weekend. I really didn't watch much golf. However, Justin Rose, big win for Justin Rose. He's the kind of guy that I feel like he's kind of on that level when he turns it on.

He's no stopping him. He's just, he can't. He's like, it's like a run. a DJ, a JT, these types of guys like Rory, like when their A game is on, it's like, unless somebody else has their absolute A game, they just can't be beat. And Justin Rose is that kind of guy. I mean, he lit it up. I think on Sunday, she was 600 on Sunday, and he went into the final round with like a three-stroke lead or something.

Did you see actually, I was walking by the TV. Like you said, it was on Memorial Day. We were kind of doing our thing, barbecuing and stuff. But I walked by the TV, and I saw that he was doing this weird thing with his shirt for putting. And I asked someone about it who was actually watching the golf, and they're like, yeah, they just did, like they just did a little special on it. He's been like tucking his shirt in to remind him to keep his like hand tight and it's just, he's putting lights out. Like he's the type of guy like that where I feel like if he just gets something like, he always has something weird going on Justin Rose.

But when he gets it right, he's like one of the best golfers of all times. He's got that craziest. That hardcore pre-shot like swing imitation thing where he like drops his arms way down. He does it like three or four times to an unbelievably like extreme, you know, degree. But he does. He got all that stuff. He works with our guy, Sean Foley, who we had on the podcast, so clearly he's into the trackman stuff, loves all that stuff.

So anybody who's one of Sean Foley's guys we love because Foley's the man. Kevin Naa, we've got to talk about Kevin Nye. Absolute battle with the caddy. We're going to play the audio here real quick. Here's the audio. I think I can pull it off. That's why. 69.

You're going straight up in the air, which it means it's not going to go that far. And then you're hitting a 40-yard cut. Where are you going to go? I can hit this. It's got to get on the green. Yeah, but over the green is dead. It's not going to go over the green, Kenny. Okay.

As long as you okay with this buck. I'm not okay with either one of them. I'm going with it. Okay. Well, you heard what he needed. A 40-yard cut. That is a little hybrid. That's a double bogey alley right there.

So Kevin, I disagreeing with the caddy. First of all. This is, we've kind of talk about this almost every week where it's like, this is what you want. Get as many mics on the. course as you can. We want to hear the caddy and the player talk. We don't want to hear the commentators talking over this. This is why people want to tune into a golf tournament. I would pay extra money to not have a commercial during the golf coverage and just listen

to all of the players and caddies miced up. Their conversations are awesome. This one was incredible. And so he's 185 out. He's in the rough. He's got trees in the way. They say he's got to hit like a 40-yard cut and it's over water. And he's like leading the tournament at this point. So there's a lot on the line. He's got some sort of hybrid in his hand. Kevin Now doesn't hit his hybrid 185. He probably hits it like 220. So the fact that he's got this hybrid means he's hitting some crazy-ass shot.

Caddy calls him off it, basically, he's saying, like, I don't like it. That's not the right shot. Blah, blah, blah. And then he gives him the, it's not going to go over the green Kenny. Kenny. When he dropped Kenny, I was like, oh, Kevin Nott is not. He was scolding his caddy. He scolded him. He scolded

him. Like, I told you, no sodas from the fridge, Kenny. And that's what that was It is And the caddy picked up the bag And just walked away And goes,

Okay, And like, I'm going to show you And, Hmm. Didn't work out that way. And then the worst thing, this poor caddy,

the worst thing in the world That could happen. Kevin now chips in Makes Bertie on the whole Just, just told him basically. And then he actually physically,

literally said, I told you. He said that. He said, I told you. I would have to one step further do Shooter McGavin and just fire him right on the spot. That's what in the blog I put the like five iron, huh?

You're fired. That's what that was. Yeah, it's amazing. The ball is on that caddy though, right? I love to see it as a former catty. Me too. Because, boy, does that have adrenaline going through your body when you take, tell someone, hey, man, I know you're a professional golfer, but I don't agree with what you're doing right now.

We also have to think that these guys are super close when he's a professional caddy. He's out there to be an extension of Kevin Naz's. you know, bag. He's like... And of his brain. He trusts him. He takes it very seriously. He makes millions and millions of dollars a year doing this. So I do think that there is a part of us when we're taking our experiences with caddies and we're trying to relate it

to what that happened, to what happened with Kevin Nott. We can't even relate because if a caddy did this to us... I would have to kick him off. You have to either like, you have to hit him right in the throat and you have to run or you have to just be like, don't ever speak again because now, no matter what I do on this next swing, you're always going to be in my head, right? Always. So if I hit the right shot that you told me to,

I'm going to think that I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about because I had the complete opposite club. And if I hit the wrong shot, I'm going to say, why the fuck did you tell me anything? So it's just a loser situation for a caddy. Right. Kevin Nahn is a category. It's a safer space so they can be like,

we can do this before a shot. We can argue and that's five. If he tells Kevin Nah that, which he should have, you always should speak up when you're professional caddy, right? Like we said. That's why you're there. If Kevin Nye ends up listening to him and he hits like an amazing shot,

like that guy's life is just set regardless of how that tournament goes because he'll always think back to like oh I can trust this guy he's gonna step me off my club and I'm gonna hit the shots that he's you know what I mean like that I think you have to take that risk is my point if you're the caddy it was a very professional disagreement until he said Kenny yeah that is he said Kenny that was a little over the line you can't say Kenny yeah that was a little over the line but to speak to what you're saying Frankie then the the next shot which was the chip they were like discussing they were going over the chip and all that so it seems like you're right they're just they're professionals they got a good relationship everything was fine but more of this stuff is kind of the main point of this is whether disagreeing or not whether kevin i shoved it up his ass or not what you did uh just the fact that we get to this this look into all the discussions the back and forth they're factor in how much you got to cut it where you can't go you can't go over the green it's not going to go over the green kenny all that stuff's awesome i love it uh memorial we got jack's tournament this week uh this tournament So we had a from the gallery a couple weeks ago

That was like what is the sixth major This very well could be in the discussion Some of these pairings The tour is not fucking around anymore The pairings, they've just gone all in on stacking The pairings not trying to spread out the talent We got Tiger Rose Duffner We got Jason Day, Big Stewie

DJ and Rory We got Speeth, Bubba and Phil And we got JT, Patrick Reed and Ricky Fowler Those are the four groups I mean Thursday Friday I'm not That's all we're gonna do is watch a call It's a short week already.

Just like we're almost to Thursday already. We're almost just watching golf all day like it's the week. Now, how are they going to do this? Because usually when I watch like PG Tour Live or something, it's featured groups and it's just Tiger. And it's just like whoever was before him. But now you have four featured groups. You're right. I would imagine Tiger is going to be the feature group both days.

And then what they should do is just have one of these other two groups. It would be like the group right in front, right? Because they always do like two groups at a time, even with one feature group. But they should basically just keep a camera on Tiger Woods the whole time. That's what they'll do. And that's like should be one of your. options. What do you think is the biggest powerhouse group?

What's the biggest powerhouse group out of those four? Out of those four? It's just always Tiger. It has to be. He's just such a bigger draw than everybody else. Yeah, it's definitely going to be Tiger in the featured group, but yeah. Tiger Rose Duffler. You know what?

Let me say this. This is a blessing in disguise for anyone going to watch the tournament. People have been tweeting at us a lot lately. Like, what's advice? I'm going to my first tournament this weekend. What's the advice? The advice is don't follow Tiger at all. It's impossible.

You can't get anywhere near him. it's a waste of time. What you get when Tiger's in the field is that you get, he sucks everyone to him, and then you're going to get, like you're probably going to be able to watch. You're going to be able to watch Day, DJ and Rory. That could be in a fucking practice round and you just walked onto the golf course.

Dude, I think that's the bigger group. I think that's the biggest group. Rose and Duffner are, those aren't as strong as the two and threes of the other groups. Totally. So that's what I mean from a spectator standpoint. I would absolutely go follow the day DJ Rory group, and you're probably going to be able to get a great seat, just hope that they're like opposite of Tiger on the golf course.

Speed, Bubba and Phil, though. It's awesome. What they did is awesome. Jack knows what he's doing. I'm jealous for everybody that's going to be out there walking around. It's funny that J.T. Reed and Ricky is like an afterthought in that. That's a very strong group, but I mean, you can kick rocks compared to the other three. That's a master's champion talking about there.

Yeah, but he just, you're right. And he's an American hero, but he just doesn't, you know. I don't want to go back to Colonial, but did you guys see John Rom take a divot on the green? Oh. You didn't see that? Oh, man, I missed this. Oh, baby. You guys got to go back and watch the clip.

Looks like Sunshine saw it. Took a big old divot right out of the green. I mean, it's so big. You won't even believe it when he watched the clip. Was he chipping over a hill or something? He was chipping over, yeah. So it was like, he did it. And then I was hoping you guys had seen it because then we were talking about like,

who was going to tell him to be like, don't do that? Because he'll just fucking freak out and break their neck. Yeah, so that was another part of Colonial. That was just fantastic. John Rob says you're going to take a divvit out of the green. You let John Rob. Nobody's going to be like, don't do that. That was a big monster of a man.

I thought you meant like he missed a putt and he just fucking just speared his putter. That's kind of what I thought you meant too. No, no, no. That's tough because any time you do that little chip on the green, you're always thinking, like, I'm going to pick it clean, make sure I don't make any too much. Have you ever done that? On a real golf course? No. I think you're an asshole if you do that.

It's very fill, like, it's just you're trying too much. Right. No, I don't think I've ever done that because it's just, it's not worth. Like, my one shot that I may save if I get lucky and I'm able to pick. one clean off the fucking green here of my wedge. Can't pick one clean out of the rough of my wedge. John Rom had no fear, no hesitation, took a big old divot.

Right. That one's going to tell them anything otherwise. That one stroke I may save is not worth, like, me potentially taking a divot out of this beautiful golf course. Right. The pressure of watching, like, if you get invited by people to a country club and like, no chance. They watch you take out a fucking wedge on their greens. It's just a

hard move, too. What are you doing, man? And like, God forbid, you do chunk it. You just feel like a complete answer. You try to hit another one. you chung you back at the same shot. When I saw John Rom do it, I was like, John Rom is exactly who we think he is. Like the way we talk about him on the podcast, that's just John Rom.

We're going to learn a lot of things about John Rom in the upcoming months. I think this guy's going to really come to, he's going to really show his real color soon. Yes. He's going to hide it. Or did you see that people started to call him fat Sergio. Oh, that can't make him happy. He's not, he's not even fat.

He's just like big. Yeah, I agree. He's just a big guy. He's a block. Yeah. He's got a weird. Weird body. We talked about that.

And the, uh... Doesn't he have, you said a weird ass body shape? She does. It's just weird. I don't know. Yeah, he's got those pork chops on his face.

The, uh, you would have hoped. He is gonna kill you. He's, he's four Frankie Borelli's. He is. Remember when we talked about,

uh, we couldn't pinpoint how, like, Bo Hosler's body. We can't really know what that is. John Rom's got a little bohazler in him, or maybe it's the other way around. Yeah, I agree. It's just like,

yeah. It's going to get out of control and it's just big. Yeah. God, like, grabbed the same, like, body type, you know, like out of the hat or whatever, whenever he does that. That was, like, those two got the same time. I'm still running to the hills with the, uh, Patrick Reed is Flubber. That's good. I think that one was nailed on the head because ever...

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She fought his, not only fought him, but also fought his mom. What? Explain this story. Oh, my God, Frankie. So, she had apparently been drinking, you know, all day, whatever, probably at the tournament. Nice. And Lucas Glover, one of my buddies played in a pro-am with Lucas Glover, said he's legitimately the most laid-back human being you've ever heard in your entire. Like, the nicest most laid-back guy.

Wife goes crazy. And then a couple of the quotes, right? So they had to talk to the police. police report, there's 9-1-1 calls, all kinds of shit. Lucas Glover had scratches on his arm and his face. Because he didn't play well. He shot 75 on Saturday, I think. One of the quotes was, when he plays a bad round of golf,

Krista proceeds to start an altercation with him, telling him how he is a loser and a pussy, how he needs to fire everyone and how he'd better win or her. The kids would leave him, and he would never see the kids again. That's, like, that's funny, but that's, like, terrifying to think about that. Like, you know that's in Lucas Glover's head when he's playing. Like, if I don't play well, she's going to take the kids and leave.

She called him a pussy. Call him a pussy, apparently, when he plays bad. And a loser. And a loser, which is probably worse, to be honestly, a loser. I would rather be called a pussy than a loser. Yes. Yeah. Yes.

Look at this picture. It's just like, he's sitting in a corner. His wife's just like, you're a pussy. You suck, you loser. Just drunk off like eight Long Island iced teas. He's like, you pussy. This is literally Talladega Nights when, when, when, you. he loses his race and he just

and the wife and Will Ferrell's wife just leaves him. It goes to John C. Riley. He's like, I don't know what to tell you, man. Like, it's just a lot. She's like, I'm a winner. I'm a winner. Imagine you're grinding out there all day. You're playing golf. It's the most important thing in your life is golf. You got a bunch of other grown men beat you in golf that day. You come home and the one person you come home

to calls you a loser and a person. Imagine him walking back into his room, just like, so defeated. And she's just sitting there. waiting to just stab him with that dagger. He's just like, hey, honey, I had a bad day. Like, you fucking pussy. So what happened, Frankie, was that she, the wife, called the police and then lied and tried

to say that Lucas Glover's mom was attacking her. So then Lucas Glover had to pick up the phone and call and say, no, no, no, you guys got it all wrong. When he did call, he said, yeah, this is the same one of the bunch when he called back is what he said to the police. when the police eventually arrested her, which they obviously did, she said to them, wait till the tour hears about this, you will lose your job.

This is why cops get shot in the face. Wait till I talk to the judge. You will be fucking fired over this. Where did the cops have to come? What? Once inside the car, Krista allegedly damaged the car by kicking the door. At one point during the transport to jail, two deputies tried to loosen her handcuffs and she tried to get away.

It took both lawmen to re-handcuff her. fucking nut job. So this is what Lucas Glover, he's back this week. Lucas is back. I am the biggest. We're all root for Lucas. You better play well, Lucas. I'm talking, this is a big week, big, big week for Lucas Glover.

Unbelievable. Out at Mealfield Village, hope he plays well. We got to talk about EA sports. No longer making the golf game. They've given up the rights to PGA tour rights, course rights, all that stuff. They've given it up. It's now going to the golf club, which is this other game. You guys ever played this game?

No, but I've watched the videos. People tweet me about this game all the time, how it's super realistic, and the gameplay is very realistic, and it's a lot different. Look, look, look. I'm not looking for realistic in my golf game, okay? I'm looking for fucking spin and turbo. That's what I need. And I need the real courses.

Augustine Nationals got to be on there. Pebble, like the big ticket items, and I'm looking for the PGA to work golfers. Tiger fucking Woods, Rory, all those guys, that's great. But I need turbo. I need spin. That's what makes the game fun. And if you got that, then I can dabble. I can get into it without that fun, interactive stuff.

So, you know, and I'm a little torn about this because it's sad that they're losing the rights and all that. But also, it's positive because we haven't had a new game in forever. That's what I was going to say. My favorite Tiger Woods game was 2007. And I know there's been much better ones that have come out. The Masters won't come out for that. But like... When we already saw that debate.

2012 was the best one. This isn't as sad as it probably. probably should be because it's not like they were still steamrolling it with games. It's not like this was awesome. I mean, when they gave it up to Rory, it was kind of like, all right, this isn't the same anymore. And then so, I mean, I should be more sad about this because the Tiger Woods games, these are probably pound for pound. I've played them the most, like, my entire life.

I talked about this with Riggs. I don't even know if you were in the office that day. It was like, I was about to leave. And I was talking across the office. For some reason, I just blurted out to you. I'm like, man, like, I think the worst part about Tiger Woods's demise and, like, his fallout from golf for those couple of years. Which we're back from, by the way.

But yeah. Right. We're back from. Was the fact that we lost the progress of these Tiger Woods games where we were gaining them now. All right. So I'm a big PlayStation player. So I buy all the new games. Like I buy every new mad and I buy every new NBA, buy every new NHL.

And I play them like to their max. I play just all sport games like crazy. The progress that has been made in these games are so unbelievable and they are so much fun to play. I know a lot of people say they're too like. intricate and like they're a little too confusing for like the general person to play but I fucking love them I think they're so realistic I think they're so cool well clearly a lot of people love them because they make billions

right and the fact that I've been taken away of a golf game gaining that same progress as these other games have like when you play a matting game and you're just like and someone's playing and you just look at the screen it looks like a real game's going on yeah we could have gotten that all these years like tiger

was 14 15 16 17 tiger was 19 it would have been so realistic so cool You would have been looking at guys like Spieth and like we would have been able to get all the new clubs You would have been playing Missouno NPCs I should be playing Shinnecock tonight when I go home Right with Tiger

Yeah With the most unreal graphics you've ever seen Yes With a chance to win the US Open In the PGA tour season that I've been doing For a year straight on my act With cool like with cool backstories And being able to sign like

Which clubs I want to use Which ball am I going to upgrade to like the title list What am I going to do? Just like in Madden You have to go do media day And you have to answer certain questions Are you going to piss off the media? Like, stuff like that would have been so awesome to do.

And I feel like... It definitely coincided. You should get to tweet from your player and, like, run your player's social media accounts. It's endless. You get in trouble from the tour. It'd be awesome. Ooh, I love that. And the golf courses just keep getting better in real life, right?

And they keep playing these awesome golf courses. Like, that one that they played where we were looking at that looked like unreal, um, where, was it in Texas? Oh, uh, from a couple weeks ago, we were looking at the... I was telling you the greens looked like those. Like, imagine playing a cross. A golf course like that in a video game, I mean, are you kidding me? Yes.

I was awesome. Big Cat just came in and I doodled a little bit. Who's Tiger teamed up with? What's that? Who's Tiger teamed up with? What do you mean? I'm muted. We can't hear you.

Who is Tiger teamed up with? Turn his mic off. Who is he teamed up with? You're muted. Sorry. You got muted. All right, we can put Big Cat and Dave Portner on the guest list now. True.

That's a great point. That's such a good point. That's a really good. Awesome. That's going to push a lot of things. download that's great trinity forest yes imagine playing out a video game it'd be awesome but nope

we got rob but you're right this is tiger's fault that we don't have all these things because he has a little downfall now he was on such a high for such a long time and we're going to give him we're going to let it slide a little bit and I don't think and this is my last point on this because I do I do love these games I don't care who else makes it

we've seen this with every other franchise and every other sport when it's not EA for some reason it's just not the same it's not the same EA makes the best games Actually, no, I'm going to go back on that. NBA 2K makes a better basketball game than EA does. They destroy them more than NBA Live. It's NBA Live versus NBA 2K.

NBA Live for a while there had it. The NBA 2K made the most money last year out of any video game ever. It's like they make so much money. I don't think they make NBA Live anymore. No, they destroyed them. But this new, what is it called? What's this new golf club? The golf club.

I watched the videos. It's a little just, it's stupid. It's like you play with just like a regular looking guy. It looks like something you find on Wii. Yeah, I agree. It's a very just normal. Generative. Everyone is saying how realistic it is.

It doesn't look that fucking realistic. They've had all these years to make an unbelievable game like we've been talking about. They've had like four or five years. I will say apparently you can just create your own golf course. That's pretty cool. I see how you could get lost deep down that hole and spend months creating a golf course. It depends on how intricate you can make it. If it's just like, oh, I'll put water here.

All right. But imagine you could like, yeah, actually there's a lot of potential in that. There's some potential there. So, you know, again, I don't think their first one, like, I guess they've been making games for a little while. They have no players. They have no club. I guess they've been making games for a little while and all that. So, like, this won't necessarily be their first one.

But this will be the first one since the EA break and all that. It won't be the greatest golf game in all time, but at least we're going to get some new golf games. So that's exciting. Big shout out to the U.S. Women's Open this week. Nice. Short Creek. Everybody knows I love Lady Golf. Also, we had some incredible drama last week at the NCAAs with the Lady Golf.

Sometimes I'm scrolling through Twitter and I just, like, I see something that Riggs writes about, like, these unbelievable. We had this drama. That's going on in Lady Golf. I don't know what's going on over there, but you should have two times on Twitter when I have no idea what's going on. It's Riggs's, oh, it's Marty Bent when he retweets Bitcoin stuff as the guy who used to work here. I see that, and that's a different language. Who sent an outrageous email to the whole entire company. We talked about that day on Stoose.

And the second one is I see Barstool Riggs just all hot and bothered about a bunch of Lady Golf. It was Arizona and Alabama in the final, and it came down to these two girls, Haley Moore and Abe, this girl. Abe who's she's electric. Abe. Abe. That's what they call her Abe. Full name Abraham? I don't know what I have no idea what her full name is.

No idea what her full name is. But they call her Abe. I call her Honest Abe, obviously. And the way that the whole deal works is it's, and they've got the men's going on right now. So you should all watch that on Golf Channel. I watch it this morning and all day. It's electric. But anyways, they get five players.

They get to the match play. They make it to the final. And it's whoever wins. It's all five singles matches. whoever wins the most. So they were two to two. So the last match in the golf course comes down to the 18th.

They have the 18th hole and they go to a playoff. And I'm talking their whole season. Think about how important a national championship is. That's just bigger, bigger than like a Stanley Cup when you win one like for you in that moment. It like changes your program forever. You're like part of that class every time you go to alumni meetings and all that.

Alumni like meetups, reunions, all kinds of stuff. You're like you were part of that like national championship class. I'm picturing Riggs at his apartment talking himself through this exact scenario where he's like, this is why this is so important. He's just getting all jazzed up about it. And Arizona took it down. It took it down after Port Habe missed like a six or seven foot slider. And this Haley Moore girl just buried like a four-footer for Bertie to win the whole thing. They're going crazy on the green.

Worst celebration you've ever seen. I mean, these girls couldn't have been further away from knowing how to celebrate. And then they put the camera in Abe's face and she's hugging all her teammates. And she's like, I'm sorry, guys, I'm so sorry guys. Oh, waterworks. Oh, my goodness. I mean, she blew up for a hole. What kind of production was on this?

Did they have like the full, all the cameras and stuff? Oh, yeah. Wow. Oh, yeah. They put a lot of money into. Oh, it's good for the game. It's great. So anyways, we got the ladies, women golf shout out to the USGA,

putting on the U.S. Open Shole Creek. Unfortunately, a ton, I mean, a ton of rain. There's like a fucking literally a hurricane hitting the place right now. So they got a ton of rain. They told nobody show up to the course today. I did see that. They were like, nobody show up. Told nobody to show up.

And then there's been a lot of, you know, griping about the golf course. And if they're like, oh, yeah, the USGA, I guess, in this tournament in the U.S. Women's Open has never allowed lift clean in place ever, never. And they're like, oh, yeah, they're going to have to this week because it's just soaked in this mud everywhere. And one of the officials today was like, oh, we will be playing the ball down, don't you worry. And then Christy Kerr responded, that's ridiculous, that's a joke. There's going to be a mutiny. somebody should tell them there's going to be a boycott if they play the ball down.

So we've already got drama going into this weekend. Very exciting stuff. You'll see Lucas Glover's wife just sprinting across the fairway, just screaming at the top of her lungs. Lucas Glover's going to be sprinting away like, no, honey, no. Just couldn't be more with the USGA on this one. I want carnage out there. I want chaos. I want it to be brutal at the U.S. Women's Open.

It sounds like it's going to be. We also had Francesco Molinari beat Rory at the BMW over and Wentworth in the London area. I do like they were getting to the point in the season now where when you wake up in summer and the Yoramita is on every morning, it's awesome. Rory, Rory blew a lead. I think he had like a two or three-stroke league going into Saturday. And then just didn't get the deal, didn't close the deal over the weekend.

Anytime my guy Rory loses, I hate it. He's done that, like, you know, a handful of times now. He's going to be fine. So, you know, we'll see, Trin. We'll see. He's going to be fine. He's going to probably win the O'S. We'll see.

It's kind of the same argument as, like, Dave always makes it the Patriots. When you're always there contending, you can't win them all, right? There you go. That's how you have to spend it. Good point. He's always contending. He's not going to win them all. Good point, Frankie.

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It didn't end well for us, and it also did. Yeah, true. Because now we're going to be all over at the U.S. Open. The U.S.GA loves us. Good point. So, you know, we know how to benefit. from things. There's no problem there with Boondoggle Boys. Noah, Noah asks, how many hybrids is too many? Definitely more than two. I'm just trying to think of if it's...

That was kind of where his cutoff was. Yeah, I mean... My buddy's got like three hybrid and a five hybrid, and he's like... And then he's also got like a six hybrid. When you start replacing irons, up past three, I think you have a problem. I think you could have a two hybrid and a three hybrid. I think if you have a four hybrid, I think it's starting to get dicey. Yeah. Right? Don't you think I think it's starting to get dicey.

Yeah. Right? Don't you think I don't you think that's... a little too high. You should be able to hit a four iron. I do, but I also like, we had, oh, we had Ryan Whitney on a couple of weeks ago, thank you guys to bring it up. I heard. And when he was on, you guys were very nice to me about that. I saw the tweets, you know, when Ryan Whitney was, well, we're in show business. We had to promote the show business. It's show business. You understand show business. I do, yeah. You're a show business guy. I mean, I was working. It's not like I didn't want to be on it, but it was okay.

No, yeah, no, you understand show business. I understand. It's just, you know, no, we think you're both great. Totally. Both great. I think you're both really good. Great. Three hybrids is too many. So what we were talking about when Ryan Whitney was on instead of you, Frankie, was how Webb Simpson had won the players with like a million hybrids in his bag.

Yeah, I just think, I mean, I guess for the average golfer, like, I know my dad would rather prefer have more hybrids or anything with more of, like, a cavity back than he would iron because he just doesn't hit it as far. But I think if you're just talking, what should the average golfer have in his bag? I think anything over two is, it's just too much. It's like you're not hitting your irons well enough to hit hybrids. That's the other thing that's dicey, though, is it's like, if you've got seven hybrids in your bag and it makes you play way better, like, you should have seven hybrids in your bag. I see what you're saying. But, I mean, you have to make it.

You have to. It's a bender look. Don't give me wrong. You look like the biggest tool in the world. So as I say, it has to come with some sort of stigma if you have that many. Big time. Yeah. That's almost like I would rather carry a two iron and not be able to hit it and but try to hit it.

then carry like a two hybrid. I've never hit a two iron before. And that's how you hit the stinger, right? I mean, I see everyone taking the two iron out. Just because, like, one out of 30 with a two iron is sick. And you just carry one. Imagine pulling out two iron just on the nice, like, par five, and just hitting a fucking awesome sticker. It would be awesome.

No, I don't. I can't imagine that. It's just, I can't. I mean, we post so many of those on the four play Instagram that it's like watching porn, man. Yeah. They're awesome. It's crazy. They're very cool. I can watch them forever.

I have a three iron, and I will say that, you know, I probably should have a three hybrid, but that feeling when you get, especially like I'll just put the three iron a little bit back at my stance and just choke down a little bit off it off like the T. And it like doesn't go. It probably doesn't go as far as like just a three hybrid if I had a nice three hybrid wood. But it just feels so cool. I got to be honest. My I got it.

I probably should invest in a three iron because I'm in a lot of trouble recently like in the woods and stuff. And my favorite shot to hit right now is a four iron in the back of my stance. I choke up and I just hit one through the trees. I'm not kidding. I'm like 100 for 100. My last 100 attempts at getting through the trees exactly. where I want to go. It's like the funnest shot to hit the hit like a low lining

curling shot that goes like exactly where I wanted to and like whoever I'm with in the cart. They're always like you're going to hit that like oh I'm going to hit this one. Like you see that? Oh, not to go back to my favorite movie but the greatest game ever played when the guy from he goes like right through all the trees and it goes in the big guy. Yeah, that's how I feel every time. I don't want to be that guy but it's not great when you're like really honing your shot out of the trees. It's not a good time. But I think

you got it. I mean. Phil Michael's Lumpf. You're proud of you. Yeah, he would be. But you got to make best of what you're doing. So I'm trying to say that that's my new favorite shot, even though I'd much rather be hitting, like, 150-yard shots from the fairway onto the green. It is nice to hit a sick.

Like, when you're trying to hit, like, a recovery shot, like you said, something that's different, something that's like a low-cutting missile out of the trees, that's the coolest feeling. There's something about just holding the club down in the middle of the green, that's like, all right, whatever. Yeah. It felt cool. There's something about holding the club differently. You feel like you're doing something that you, you feel like you know. know how to play the game.

It's like, oh, I know this little trick and, like, I'm supposed to choke up. That wasn't just my mechanical swing. That was like, I got crafty. Right. Getting crafty's fun. Ben asked, Ben kind of brought up a conversation that I've been waiting to have, which basically is how widely known are transfusions, the drink. Oh, my God.

And I think he asked a really good question because most places, I feel like, transfusions are really well known, but there are also some places. Like, in St. Louis, like, people have no idea what a transfusion. I didn't know what a transfusion was until I moved out here. There are certain golf clubs that I've gone to even now that, like, they have no idea what you're talking about when you order a transfusion. It's a very country club known. So you can't go to, like, I always bring up my courses, but you can't go to Eisenhower public courses and go to the cart girl and just be like, can I have a transfusion? She's not going to know what you're talking about.

Yeah, if I ordered a transfusion at the St. Andrews in Cedar Rapids, the real home of golf, they would not know what you're talking about. And it's not going to be the same transfusion that we've come to know and love. It's not going to be like the double-cuffed in the, you know, with the top on it in the straw. Like, you're like, you're going to have to tell them how to make the drink. And then there's just going to be something like that. I mean, actually even nift that, I don't even know if they carry like hard liquor. Yeah, you're right. And the beauty of a transfusion is that, like, a lot of clubs do them, like, a little bit differently.

And you're going to, like, try a transfusion here. Try a transfusion there. I was at Sleepy Hollow this past weekend. By the way, maybe my favorite course you ever played. Sleepy Hollow is insane. I mean, that's high praise coming from. It was insane how good it was. So it's originally a CB McDonald.

But, Rick, you're playing the best golf courses. Like, every golf course has been unbelievable. Frankie, you're correct. But, look, I'm not saying it's, like, the best golf course ever played. I'm not saying, like, it could, like, host a U.S. Open in terms of, like, best. Yeah. I'm saying, like, it might be my favorite golf course like I've ever played. Just everything about it.

It's, like, close to the city. The clubhouse was beautiful. It had a great first tea environment with, like, like people basically standing on top of you on like this little porch. It was it was very recently redone and renovated by or restored by our guy Gilhans, who very good friend of the podcast. Shout out Gilhands. Amazing work.

Redid all the greens, restored them back to like their original design as they were intended by CB McDonald, who was like an all-time great golden architecture guy, all that, whatever. Again, we're not architecture geeks on here, but we know the big names. So all those things factored. And then they had these unreal views of the huds in that. I didn't even fucking knew existed. I didn't even know the hudson looked like that.

I'm looking over. There's like giant cliffs on the other side of the river. I was like, what? What's going on here? And you played on like a foggy day, so it definitely added to the allure of like sleepy hollow. It felt like we were in a horror movie kind of like a scary. That's what you want when you play sleepy hollow. That's what you want.

Yeah. The clubhouse has, it's like this giant like kind of like almost dormitory like haunted house type feel. Love it. The bridges were off the charts. The staircases and bridges. Phenomenal. Yep. So anyways, the place is great.

and they were like, you got to try our transfusion. You got to rate our transfusion. I gave it an 8.2. They did a really, really good job of, so they do it's vodka, ginger ale, and then grapefruit juice. But a lot of places they overdo it with the grapefruit juice. That's kind of a resort transfusion that we call that one. This one, like, they just did a little bit of a splash, basically just to give it to the coloring. That's all you're looking for is the coloring.

It was delicious. It would have been higher, but I came off a double when I was rating it. So it's like, how good can it be? Right. You rattled rigs at that moment. 8.2 is high for Rattle Briggs. Very high. That's what I said.

You're calling off a birdie that things in the nines. Yeah. Right, exactly. 100%. But transfusion talk, anybody out there, if anybody's wondering what a transfusion is, not sure you want to bring it to your home club, do it, figure it out, get the transfusion going. It's the best drink of the business.

They had them at Bannon. They had them at Stream Song. So I feel like it's not just like a Northeast thing anymore or New England thing anymore. But anyways, figure out the transfusion. fusion thing if you haven't already. Last guy, this guy's name. He says his name is Chonko. Love it.

C-H-O-N-K-O. Fantastic name. So Chonko asks, is it ever okay to leave a group or person to play by yourself mid-round? Essentially what happened was he rolled up to the first tee thinking he was going to play by himself. There was a single on the T. The single was like, hey, why don't you just go ahead and play through me? And this guy was like, no, no, we'll just like play together. I don't want to jump in front of you.

We'll roll singles, whatever. And the guy was like, okay, so the two of them played together. He's like, it turns out this other guy was like a 35 handicap. Chonko here says he's like a 12th. So he's like, after like two holes, is it appropriate for me to then be like, all right, actually, I'm going to go play by myself in front of you? Yeah, so this is a very public golf course problem. This happens all the time. Do you have the balls to go up and say that?

That's what comes down to. I do not have the balls to do that. Right. I don't like confrontation. I don't possess the testicles to go through with this. Because you're saying you suck so much, I'm not going to play with you. Exactly. Right.

And I think we can all agree that everyone wants to be able to make that decision when they're in it, right? Because, like, you're like, I don't want to really. Like, when you step up to a tea at a public golf course and you realize you're the only one on the tea box, it's a great feeling. Awesome feeling. It's a great feeling. It's like, hey, man, I have no pressure out here. I can do whatever I want. I came golfing by myself to begin with.

So I'd love to just continue that. It's just me in the golf course. Right. Like, when you went to go buy that ticket to play, you just. have your friends with you and you expect it to play by yourself. And playing with strangers always sucks. I mean, sometimes it's fun when you meet the guy, but whatever. It usually is just like a weird feeling of playing with strangers.

And I just don't have the, like you said, I don't have the Kohonis to be like, hey, man, like I'm just going to cut in front of you because I don't want to play with you anymore. It's like a weird feeling to say that. Chonko's stranger here, Chonko's playing partner would probably appreciate it the most. He'd probably be like, thank God, dude, I want to do my own thing. you do your own thing. Yeah, but it's not what. You're right.

Nobody, I don't think, has that conversation. Nobody. You both are just miserable for the whole round. I was actually talking to- which seems crazy, but that's just the way it is. That's just, I think, like, 99% of the time in this situation, both people just play miserably together and pretend like they're having a great time. So this actually happened, the opposite of this happened.

With Francis, I was just talking to him. He said he shot at 75 at Bayo in this weekend. Yeah, shout out to Francis. He made six birdie, so he was all over the place. Six buries on 75 is nuts. It's like birdie, double, birdie, boogie, birdie, birdie, double. That's basically I was around with. Right. He only made four parts.

And he was telling me that he went as a single and he was playing by himself. He ended up meeting up with these two guys playing. And he said he was playing so well with them that they actually offered him to go and play on his own to go past him. And he's like, do you guys mind if I stay with you? I feel like I'm playing well. And I'd rather have guys with me to keep me just like motivated to keep playing well. Because I think he felt like he was playing an unreal round. I think he said too, like he wanted him to distract him basically.

I'm like focusing on like, oh, this number, I need to post this number. Right. Like, please distract me from one of them. Because when you're playing by yourself, that also is something that happens to you. The main focus. Yeah. And then playing up Bayona, it's probably with the caddy. So it's just you and the caddy. It's very just, like, stressful probably when you're playing your career low round. So you want other guys there to just mix it up.

Like, where are you from? Shit like that when you're walking up to your ball. So he also said, like Francis said, too, that he had asked his caddy on the 18th hole. He's like, what do I need to break to shoot 79 to break 80? and the catty was like, if you don't break 80 here, I'm never catting for you ever yet. That's awesome. He was like, oh, we must be looking good. You're legit five strokes, like, your five strokes clear.

You're good to go. Yeah. But that speaks to how, like, distracted Francis can be. He didn't even know, he even know if he was going to break 80. He was shooting 75. It's like three over part. That's crazy to me when people don't know what they're shooting. Yeah, that's crazy to me too.

That's one of my biggest pep-peas of my friends. We've talked about this, but when someone comes up to the green and they just do the thing where they point. Yep. That was one of our biggest cop pep thieves. It's like you don't know where you're playing right now. How confusing could it be? We've only been doing it for the past five minutes. You've only taken a couple swings.

That's what always like when you're in a match, you go like, okay, Tim, what are you putting for here? And it's like, oh, let me count. It's infuriating. What do you mean? Let me count. How long has it been? This is the only thing we've been doing. Do you take a swing and just...

It's not like you're out to dinner and also playing golf and also like working and the worst. It's the one thing you're doing. The worst is when I'll be like, oh, is that a par puttut? And they'll be like, oh, let me count the big. no I think this is for Bertie like it's not like they took nine shots you took two shots you don't know that you

take a swing and not know it right that's what I mean like did you make a swing and just go what just happened did I just swing at a golf ball blackout right there how do you not know what you did you did it you didn't let me count of eight shots you lost count of two shots that's definitely worse that's definitely way worse

what are you talking about your putting for Bernie that's insane I have this one friend too my friend Chris he just does it he does it all having golfed them in a long time but he used to do it all the time. I used to go, Chris, just pay attention. You're the one golfing. That's the most long island I've ever heard, Frankie.

Just pay attention. Just do it. Just play golf. We're playing golf. You got to count your strokes. You have to count to like six, max. Like, that's all we're asking to do. Count to six.

In real time. On things that you are doing. Over the course of what does it take, like, eight to 15 minutes to play a hole? You can actually feel how many, like just feel like the swings you just took. You could probably feel it in your arms probably still ringing. You just took a swing. No, they got to do that thing, Frank. They're standing on the green.

They look back towards the T. One, two, two, three, four in the bunker, five out, six putt. They do it all the time. Oh, no, it was two out. It was two out. Yeah, one on the, one on the T, two. Oh, yeah, and then I dubbed it. Then I dubbed it.

So there's three into the bunker. Four on the green. Five, I checked. So now I'm putting six. It's like, very good. All right. Very good. You couldn't do that in real time as those strokes occurred.

You bring your Legos two, you fucking loser. Loser is so mean. We're going back to the Krista thing. This is Glouccy or loser. Loser hurts. He doesn't call the loser sucks. He's just such a, he's like such a dorky-looking guy that would definitely be getting pushed around by his wife, too. Like, this is who he is.

Like, it's just like his persona. And the fact that he has to go home to that and just get absolutely reamed out after playing a bad round is. You won't find a bigger Lucas Glover fan than me. God, I'm moving for him so hard. Lucas this week. He's just playing some money on him, really. Just pulling for him. Big time out there this week.

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congrats champ, which I appreciate. You know, we cause a stir. A lot of people calling me, asked me on the course, played, just really happy for me. So it's been a good experience. My front hip was a little bit sore, so that was. But on that, it was great. So you were talking afterwards. I think a lot of people were like he could do this for one day,

okay, maybe whatever he got lucky, your body could hold. up for four days? Absolutely. Your body could barely hold up for one wrap. So I don't know what that means. I mean, I did that with no problem. And let's not do this game. I didn't come on this show to, again, be questioned.

I saw stool scenes. I saw the conversation we had. When I adamantly was like, I can do it. You don't understand. I won't be in the rough. I'll just be on the fair way. I'm going to hit all my puts. And you were just looking at me with those eyes of yours.

said only you can look at me with, and I'm saying the exact opposite, and we're just going to do this dance again? I should prove myself again. So we kind of talked about a little before. We all kind of had our moments when we knew we were fucked. So my big thing was the time, and they probably saw that on stool scenes where everybody thought you were going to run out of time, myself included. But then when you finish the first two holes in like 20 minutes, that's when I knew we were all fucked. Not only that, I had to like wait a lot. Right.

I was backing into other groups. See, I thought it was going to take you. And this is the thing we also go back to is that. I've seen you play once, I think, was in Minnesota, and you were terrible. But I told people that was an aberration where that would not happen again. But there's a huge difference to me just telling people that. But can't you see where someone would be like, oh, I just don't have it today, and they wouldn't mean it. They're just actually bad or something.

I saw a lot of my GoPres go crowd, which I appreciate them. They're brilliant people. And a lot of them said what you should realize in this room, Dave Portnoy does not get himself involved in things. That Dave Portnoy is not pretty confident Dave Portnoy can win. And I was very calm. And it's like, oh, we got to drive two hours ago play Shinnock? Let's set it up. Like, that should have been the first red flag.

I told Frankie because he told me he's like, I've been texting Dave, and he's kind of, Dave was kind of like Shinnock's up this weekend? Oh, shit. And I was thinking like, all right, he's going to back out. He knows he can't do it. And then when Frankie was like, yeah, no, we're making all the logistics. We're in trouble. I was kind of like, what does this fucking guy know that I don't? Because, like you're saying, I'm not an idiot.

I've been watching Barstool for fucking 10 years. And I've been like all these clowns get them. into these disputes and these battles and they let this idiot win this is going to be our victory moment what a moron he thinks he can beat jenegog and then i rewatch i even rewatched a half hour ago i rewatch your renter video you wanted to play well too you were like i want to fucking show renter how to be better on the back nine and all that you just couldn't do it that was the video i watched before the tournament then we got to the range and i don't know what happened it's like you took lessons for a year straight you were just you were all of a sudden just flushing the

Was Minnesota the last time you had played before Shinnock? Yes. That it can't be possible. How is it possible? It's the truth. You couldn't even hit the-cuh. You were- Our guy, who'd we play with again?

Barzzi Alley. Barz-Ally. He summed it up. That shot, and we have the picture when I had one foot in the trap, and my idiot caddies, like, play that ball. It's like, I show up it. And I took one shot. I hit it about probably 170 right down the fairway.

He goes, yeah, you know, your swing, not great, but you must have been an okay. athlete to be able to do that. Not an okay athlete. The hand-eye coordination, the line on the shields. You saw, and again, the runner thing, I don't even think I went to the range. I just teed off and went, and it was like you're shooting one shot. You never, I knew, first of all, at the range, the first I took him like that dead.

Because I played enough where I was having trouble making solid contact in Minnesota at all. When I'm normal, I don't scull. I just lose golf ball. I hit them, they go left, they go right, but they're always generally hit solidly. And I'm not like short, I'm not like wildly long, but I'm not the short guy in the group. So it's like I knew. And I even watched my swing. I think it looked better on like stool scenes.

Like I just, I have that thrust that is a triple crown winner, North Shore, led the league in home runs, RBI's the works. And I knew you guys were dead. I knew it. I rewatch the conversation. I'm like, how stupid are they that they don't get what I'm saying? If you had another day like Minnesota, could you still have done it? Like, if you had woke up that morning and you couldn't make solid contact with a ball, would you have still been able to do it?

You act like you're just rolling the dice. Some days you wake up and you're sick. Other days you wake up, you can't make contact. But I think the only thing maybe time, eventually something would have clicked. That's the advantage of unlimited Mulligans where it's just like I'm going to hit it there because it's like, again, with the exception of getting ridiculous downhill lies, which I can never hit, I hit. I hit the ball too solidly for mulligans to be.

The bigger question I said would be like a rigs. Like how many shots would he actually need? Or now doing the math on me. Like if you gave me 10 mulligans a hole, could I do it? I think I probably need like 15. Well, and that's actually where the original argument started. I think it was how many mulligans would you need to win the U.S. Open and then it spiraled into unlimited.

I don't know. Yeah, the number could be pretty low. Shout out to Colin. I got an email from Colin who was like, this is my original email that I sent him four months ago, asking how many mulligans you need to win the masters and i didn't read it in time read it for the u.s open and now we ended up here so that's what i was going to ask is how many mulligans would you need dave to actually like to make it really close i think 15 to 20 i think all i don't think it's as high right as people think because you could just like but the putting would be an issue on the greens

though you would just accept like on the greens you hit regulation like the par three's and a couple of shorter par fours you would just accept pars and move on yeah but you'd have a long that's so long i'd have a lot of bogeys because i'd have the two putt a lot of of these where I was going to get them in. Granted, and this may be the X factor, if I didn't have the unlimited mulligans and I go back to the last hole where my caddy was so bad, but the last hole, Frankie helped me putt. And within Frankie giving me a little advice like reading the green, I think it took three

shots and I hit it. So I was not paying it. I know I had rapid fires. It's like if I hit a million of them quickly, one's going to fall. Right. If you have a limit per hole, there's more decisions that have to be made. More studying. Yeah.

It's more like paying attention, studying the putt's. Like, I have a million of them. I'm just going to go, right. The putting was what did it with me. So I'll admit, in the beginning, I was very skeptical that Dave was going to be able to do this. We talked about that. Oh, this thing is like so short.

Yeah, we're both going to lose our backs. So in the beginning, I was like, there's no chance that there are going to be that. I even thought for us, right? When this original question came up on foreplay, we're like, there's no chance we can do it. Like, average golfer just, like, can't make certain shots. So the time limit's not going to be enough. And then when we got into the car, on the way of Shinnock, and he just kept saying, like,

I don't think they understand what unlimited is. I'm just going to hit a million fucking glowing or something. He was stretching. He was stretching in the car. He was talking about, I am going to hit a million putts, Frankie. He's like, I will not stop until the ball goes in. I'm like, and I'm starting to do the math. Like, well, yeah, if he gets on the green and three, he's not going to stop until he makes a four.

And we got up to the first hole, and he did not stop until he sank what, a 55 footer to start the day. And the other thing that I was talking is like, people i understand we played from the tips i understand it's further back people play the golf course yes there's people who belong to this golf course it has to be playable right it's not like only professionals can come and play yes right so it's like who would belong to this golf course if it's just unplayable nobody nobody would right right so it's like i know when i hit a golf ball correctly it it it looks like everybody else who it's a golf ball right that's where we fucked ourselves we're like, oh, it's Chinatok.

This is top five course in the world. Like the course was on the moon or something. Gravity didn't apply and it was different. So that's how we felt like it was like a private course where you have to be 350 off the T or else you can't. Like, no, they have members. Why would anyone belong to a place where you physically can't complete the course? I was going back through all the tweets, too, trying to be like, how do we get this so fucking wrong?

Were we the only people? And people are laughing in your face on Twitter. Like he's going to shoot 130, 1.40. I was the same way. Whitney plays much golf as I do, if not more. he was that far off. I will say, too, on like the third hole, you hit a six iron as your third shot to, like, four feet.

And Parziali walked by me, and he was like, this isn't even really a numbers thing here. He just hit, like, a really sick, six iron. That shot was unbelievable. That shot was, I mean, that almost went in. That was a unbelievable shot. And then Parziali was like, why did you make this bet? And I was like, you don't understand.

This is a different human being. He sucked last time. Yeah, you had one. At some point said I wouldn't be able to land a golf ball on the green. I didn't think you'd be able to stop it on the green. Last time I saw you, even if you go back to the renter video, you're like top and drives. You can't get the ball in the game. I didn't understand.

And that again was like, I don't understand why I won't be able to land a ball. Like, people play the court. They have to be able to land the ball in the green. I just didn't think you were able to do it. Yeah. Yeah. You greatly. But again, that's where it's like I would never have said I could do it if, like, my dad can't do it.

My dad would not be able to get through some holes. But I think you saw me play really bad. You saw my dad play. I think everything just got mixed in your head. But you just didn't listen to me confidently being like, oh, yeah, let's go do this. Well, everybody in this office does that. Like, text does that.

He's like, oh, I can do this. No, I don't do that. But that's what I mean. Like, we get so used to people just saying stupid shit, and we're just like, no, they probably can't. So, like, you're saying it, we're probably like, oh, maybe he probably can't. And then you do.

I will say when you got really hung up on the force carries thing during the discussion, too, I was like, he's really thinking about this critically. He's not just thinking about this like an asshole. And then when we got to the golf course and I looked around, I actually asked one of the caddies. I was like, are there no force carries here? He's like, no, not really. There's that one that they made, that I think I eventually would have gotten over it.

They had me, again, my cat told me to play it in the fucking rough. I was close to getting over it. I would have gotten over it eventually. It was like a 600-yard part five. There was no hole there that I, that just, I physically could not. He was just hitting golf shots. It brought me back to my, like, caddy days where I was standing behind him, and there was just some shots that he was flushing. And, like, right away, I would just say out loud, like, oh, yeah.

And, like, you just knew the ball was insane. But, like, you just knew right off just making contact that that ball was going to go within 10 to 15 feet, and then we're going to go up there. He's going to knock up, even if it takes 80 to 150 putts, he's still going to make one in. Ironically, one of the holes that I had the most shots on, I was hitting, like, pretty good is the par three. The 11th, that hole's really fucking hard. I couldn't figure out, like, I would flush a six iron, then I'd flush a six iron, then I'd flushed seven iron, the seven would be too short and the six would be too long. It's like, at that point it's like, I don't know what to do on this whole.

A considerable amount of yardage, too. The six was going way deep. The seven wasn't even reaching the punch. You flip back and forth like three times. You know what I did. You know what I may have been. The six iron was a different club in the bag. I keep thinking about that.

Like it was his, so like you use my clubs. So he used my call. I don't have a six iron. That had to be it. There you go. A different loss. So he used his six iron. That was driving me nuts.

He makes it fucking worse. That he's out here winning in the U.S.O. but he doesn't know what clubs is. He was using just like a random bag of clubs that I gave. He wasn't using his own clubs, like different grip on it. Also, we didn't think we were going to be in that position where he's like, oh, I'm hitting this club so well. And the other clubs so well, we didn't think he was going to be hitting any club.

That hole, though, I was literally, you know when you hit it like perfect, the right leg, like you hit it goes up, it down you hit it perfect. I was doing that with both clubs and it wasn't, it was, they're widely different. So I couldn't figure it out. Well, too. You would hit those shots, and then we would all look at Zah, who's just running up around the green and see for his hand signals. He had no idea what the hand signals with it. That's where the superintendent was so cocky because we talked about it.

I'm like, I couldn't get anything to land. I had a six and a seven. I was hitting both perfectly. He goes, I'm sure I'll get a lot of complaints about that in three weeks. He was so happy. He loved that. They absolutely love that. That's the other thing people who realize is, like, you aren't even walking up and asking for yardage.

You were just grabbing a club and hitting, and if it wasn't the right club, you would just, Club down. Or just change a club. Totally. The artists don't even matter. Totally. Well, that's what I'm saying. People, it's like, yes.

But that is golf. Like, you can play a perfect round. And if you do one or two bad shots, you're fucked. So, I mean, clearly that wasn't the case with me. So we obviously, we're at USAGA loved it. They got a ton of attention. We loved it. We got a lot of good shit.

We're still getting people. I'm getting people. We're getting people tweeting at us. You took a good spot from a journalist that's burned working on this. They want to play. Shuncock forever. What do we say to those people? They're bitching about them.

Oh, my God. Fuck them. Listen, I have sources like people being to the USGA. I can't believe you let them do it. You must be like, it must not go well. USGA is saying it's like the best thing they've ever done. Journalists, we brought more attention. You play the course so they get attention and buzz.

This got more buzz. People fucking loved it. This is the same thing that happens when Tony Romo where like Steph Curry takes a spot at a tournament. It's the same fucking thing. You get a million eyeballs. Yeah. It was a ton of. attention. I mean, the fucking president

of Shinnacock walked up to me before. He's like, if I could only have one app on my phone, it would be Barstall Sports. And the course, it barely even got touched in the way that we thought, we're like, oh, he may be shanking all these shots and just tearing up like the, the, uh, tea boxes. When he hit one on the green,

that's the one we used. So it's not like you were pelting the greens. No, he weren't like, I wasn't really taking a huge damage. It wasn't there. I had Craig, our USGA official that was walking with us, looked at me on like, I don't know, the 15th hole. And he's like, I don't think I've ever seen someone swing 200 times and take zero divvets. We have the official video coming out.

We've been editing it. It's a long video. It's going to be like 20-something minutes. And we're trying to get every shot in there. We have like a Mulligan counter going. It's taking a long time. That's great. But you can see that there are times where, I mean, we put like 15 to 20 shots in a row real quick and not one speck of grass comes up.

If you had to put a number on, how many morgans do you think you used? People have been saying 600 shots. That was, I just threw that out right off the top of my head But the putts, I don't know, I like, I don't know because When we're editing it, like there's like nine is a lot And like when you're on the fairway Unless I have a downhill lie I hit ball saltly

Right, so it's like it's other than that Maybe two or three like per And your target zone was relatively big Like on the T shots you were just like anything in the fairway I'll take it. As long as those on the fairway, I would take it And a lot of times you were just laying up Like on par four, you were just hitting an iron into the fairway as well.

Correct. Well, it's going to reach. Right. You can't have that course is too long where I cannot reach. I don't believe. And I knew what I was doing. I don't want it. There was the USGA still like, which I didn't understand how we're going to do this with groups behind us.

Once we got going, like they, the first two holes, we sprinted. Like I was in a, like that was what was. That's the only time I was worried. I'm like, I'm not going to be able to do this, not because I can't do it because I'm going to pass out from jogging. Right. Like, I think they were nervous. We don't jog. Right.

Like, I think they were nervous in the beginning. Okay. Like, my first hole, it's like it took me three or four drives. And I think they're like, oh, shit. Like, they were like, it's like, well, this is what I said it was here to do. Buddy, three or four drives is nothing. Yeah, right. And it's like they're all hit solidly.

One of them is going to land in the fairway. So, like, relax. Yeah. And then after we got through that, it was, we legitimately waited more on the group of us than anybody waited on us. Caddy. Well, you got to talk about your caddy real quick. How many strokes you think you're caddy?

thoughts you. Realistically, probably 10. I was going to say realistically, two to three actual strokes. No, no. At least I was, because he didn't help me with the putts. Yeah, but I guess we hit the putts anyways. So he probably four. Yeah.

I mean, for sure, the asterisk, if we're all being, I mean, that, that was ridiculous. That was not a long putt. And he just, I just got kicked off after like five puts. He gave him an ultimatum like two minutes in. He goes, three more. Yeah. Like, who the fuck is this guy? Yeah, guy came out of nowhere dropping all the maitams in the U.S.

open. So, I mean, it's like I didn't know. I didn't really, it's not like the USGA guys. Like, I couldn't stay there. There were people. So that clearly, I mean, that was a birdie. I was there with like a very makeable putt. And I just got kicked off that, which is not a spirit of what we're talking about.

There's nobody in the world who would be on the basis of what our bet did that that wouldn't have been a birdie if it wasn't like you got to go. And why do I have to go on any of close to the time limit? What was the biggest point of, like, potential trouble where you thought, like, we might be in trouble? It was, what, around the third, fourth, last hole was on that downhill line. Oh, 18th. Yeah. And, again, I could have stayed there all day, but it's when the groups came up behind, which, again, was not the spirit of the bet.

Like, the pressure was being put that you just got to go because there's people behind you. It is just a big, whatever reason in golf, anytime anybody comes up behind you, it's just fucking rattling. I would, well, I mean, I'm not an. asshole like they didn't really know what was going on right like they weren't like told there's a bet you got to wait so they're just going to watch you hit like a million shots like what is this guy doing yeah right potentially right i don't know if they ever figured it out right so that's just the pressure of like you have a group behind you and you're ruining their entire and i like they don't understand what's happening nobody told them right so that that was the only pressure and we

moved on putts that i wouldn't or not that i eventually like there i had birdie putts that I did not take because of that pressure. So I probably should have been like five. Yeah, that's the other thing. People are always like, we still had like an hour almost. Right. Time was an odd factor. Right. So if you really wanted to grind over a couple of those puts for a longer time, like you probably could have shot six or seven under.

And to bring it back to the caddy, he wasn't really giving Dave Reed. Dave was really putting and then reacting to what happened. And he was doing nothing. If you're not playing that much golf, like, so Dave hasn't played since Minnesota, which is like a year ago, right? Dave has hit a put. and he sees it go to the left, but now he just, like, pulls one way right because you're just trying to hit him and really, really, really fast.

And I wasn't, like, I knew I had proven the essence of the vet. So it's like, what's the difference between minus four of my spots? So there was times where he was just, like, basically unloading the bag of balls and he was going, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So that's not really, like, half of those aren't really even putts. No, I was just going to, like, rapid-foot, 60-foot. So if we actually took our time and read every single put, like, all right, we need to pick a spot on the green and try and hit this spot the entire day, I really do think he could have. A lot of people ask me to like... Right.

They're like, could you really have, like, won the U.S. O'Brien? Could you really, like, beat Tiger Woods? And I'm like, yes, because you prove that you were never going to make a boge. I absolutely would have been in Tiger Woods. It wouldn't even cloud. You would be like 28 under. I would have destroyed this field. Right.

And that's like we just, our brains were so fucking far off on that. Right. I mean, it wouldn't run away. But it's just you were never going to make a bogey. And that was a bad round for me with the unlimited molligans. And I'm not saying shot what I shot. for the turn it. Yeah, after four days.

Right. Yeah. I would have been, at least, I would have been close to 20 under, and they would have been around four. It would have been a massacre. The only time he almost took a bogey was on that 18th hole, and there was a time where you actually finally hit a shot on that downhill line. You got it kind of up there, and you look back at me, and you're like, do I take it?

And I look back, I saw the group behind us. I'm like, oh, fuck, it's unlimited Mulligan. I know. Should you take that one? You're like, I'm just going to go again. And maybe like 10 shots after that, you finally got one on the green and we were putting. Yeah, and they made par. And they made par.

So it's like, but if you feel the pressure, I mean, maybe he would have made one bogey, but that's just because there was pressure that really wasn't a part of our deal or a bet. It was pressure that had nothing to do with what we taught. It's pressure of a random group that doesn't know what's going on. In a vacuum, like with no one there, he never, ever makes a bogey. Like, I don't know that I would have agreed if I truly understood like it was in the middle of a scramble tournament. Where, like, people had no idea what's going on. I would have thought, I would have thought in that, well, we're going to screw up the whole course.

is never going to work. There's going to be a giant backup with us with people being like, I came there to play 18 holes and I can't get through it because this guy's taking 7,000 shots. We had the professional golfers behind us. We had, what's his name, Nick Price?

Oh, really? Just playing behind us. Zabwe and, like, legend who, like, has, like, medals of honor in Zimbabwe, just playing behind us. And that guy was playing unreal, lights out. They probably should have told everybody what was going on.

I think they figured out at some point. They saw Zah sprinting from across the things. They saw the cameras. I mean, at some point, they knew something was happening. They don't know what it was. They knew something was happening. Our crew was...

I mean, imagine Riggs not knowing what was going on behind that group. Oh, my God. If there was like a slowdown, like, this guy is just dropping golf balls. He won't leave. I would have pulled a shotgun out of it. Yeah, that's what I mean. Murder. That's what I mean.

And you could tell also the USGA felt a degree of pressure in the beginning, like, uh-oh, what if this doesn't go? Like, what if it takes too long? That's why they kicked me off. So it worked out in that sense, but that was the pressure. It was a fake nothing to do with the pressure. Like if you told me I have to do this with a scramble tournament of people not going on, I'd be like, I don't want to do that. Yeah.

It definitely took them some time to get used to it, but they were pretty good halfway through. I think they realized it was we weren't a problem. Do you remember like after the first or second T, just on the, after the first or second T shots on the first hole that we played, they were like, you're not going to take that one? I think you hit it just off the fair way. They're like, you can play it from there. And you turn to them like, I. I don't know if you guys are going to do this the whole day, but I have unlimited mulligan.

I don't know who you're doing it. I don't know. Like, this is only my third swing. Like, I don't know if you guys realize we're here for another 600 of these. And, like, I think that just really was like a shock to them. You know who you just invited to win your open champion? I feel like I said that quite a bit to the caddy. And it's like, I have unlimited mulligans.

You're not understanding. That means, um, on the first cut of the rough, I am not taking it. The only time they got me to take it, he'd lie. He'd be like, you're good. and then we'd walk all the way there and it's like, I'm not good, you're an idiot. And I saw a lot of love for the caddy and people were saying like, oh, it was the worst day ever for a caddy. Like, I've been a caddy and I've been treated a lot worse than what this guy went through. I mean, Zah was the one running up and down.

Yeah, this guy never had to leave the fairway. All he did was throw balls down at you. Let me say this. That guy made, what, almost 4x what you make on a typical loop? I got to be honest, I was like, I was upset. He made almost 4x when you make in a typical loop. He stood on a T-box for like maybe five minutes. Didn't have the four caddy.

Walked down to the fair way, stood in the fairway for like 50 minutes. He didn't have to walk into the festival ever. So, I mean, you know, coming to guy, Dave, I have a history of caddies. So I think that guy's getting a little too much. Way too much love. People like, you know, drop ball. How hard is it fucking drop golf balls for, like, who cared? And he forked out.

I'll go back on my same. He forcated a little bit, but that was just because, like, he wanted to tell us if the shot was good enough to stop on the T-box. And half the time, it wasn't the shot that we wanted. Right. And he wasn't picking them up. Zah was. Yeah.

Right. He had a very, very simple day on the golf course. He had no pressure. No pressure. No pressure. He made a shit ton of money. When you take the pressure off, when I was caddying and I knew that I didn't have to give guys reads or like I was just out there. Like I had this one group that just took me as a just to hold putters.

And like I knew I was going to make a lot of money. I had no pressure at all. It was like the best day of my life. I tried to fire him at the turn. Yeah, that may have been a little bit pressure when the guy that you're holding the clubs for goes, can I get this, can I exchange him? On camera. I should have got him. But other than that, he had a great day.

He's like, can I swap out? He's like a bear short. What an interesting wording. He's exchanged. But he did say, actually, Barziali is like, yeah, I fired my caddy in a mid-loop before. Because he kicked me off a green. Then he didn't give me my driver. And then he gave me a ball in the mush.

I'm like, get this fucking guy out. This guy doesn't know the rules. All right. Well, Dave was right. Shout to USGA, who they're a big blazer and Thai-type crew. And they brought us in there with Zah and everybody. Some Bobway midget. It was good.

So it was quite the scene, and Dave did it. So way to go, Dave. Thank you. It's always fun to shut up the haters of which there are many. So it was a great effort by me, and I'd like to congratulate me. Okay. I know you would. All right, folks, that's it for us this week.

Big thanks to Dave coming on after his triumphant victory. We've never been more wrong about anything in our lives. True. Big get. Yeah, thanks for coming on. I guess Dave, I mean, he was going to come on anyway just to gloat. But we appreciate him coming on. And yes, we've never been.

more wrong about anything ever. Everyone, please keep your ears peeled. Can you do that? Sure. Keep your ears peeled for our announcements about the U.S. Open. We're going to be out there. We are discussing right now. We're very close, but we're discussing with different parties about in what capacity

exactly are going to be out there. But regardless, we are credentialed. We have a place to stay. We're going to be out there pretty much all week. There's going to be, to some degree, meetups for going to be hanging out with people. We're going to have spots for everybody to go to hang out with us. We're going to be doing broadcasting.

We're going to be shooting videos. We're doing all kinds of good stuff. We'll be all over that. Shout out to the USGA who just loves us and is letting us do our thing. They just get it. The USGA gets it, which is so relieving. It's awesome to finally see a governing body. It's a breath of fresh air for them to just be like, yeah, yeah, we'll embrace you guys and do your thing.

And no, right away, it's just working. They're like, oh, we embraced the barstle guys and it just worked. They're just getting a bunch of positive reaction and a bunch of engagement and a bunch of fans and a bunch of the millennial younger audience. That's loving everything they're doing. Funny how that works. It's great. We're going to be out there. So keep your ears peeled for the announcements about that.

We'll be back next week.