Fore Play - How Does One Shoot At 202? Feat. Trey Bilardello

Episode Date: July 25, 2019

202. That's the score Trey Bilardello (68:11) shot recently in a U.S. Am qualifier. He defends that he did not shoot that on purpose despite all the reports about him, and we debate several From The Galleries in a bit of a throwback episode!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. What a week, what a show we're coming off of. Man, there was a lot. There was a lot that went out in the last show. There just was. There was a lot to talk about. We did almost two full hours, a lot of laughs, a lot of British Open talk.

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Well, all of those are just under those Spring Golf umbrella. So Spring Golf is better. Springgolf.com slash Barstool. We got a lot to get to. We got some headlines. We've got Jack Nicholas making some comments on our boy Tiger, which we've talked about before. We'll get to that. We got a bunch of from the gallery type stuff.

So it's going to kind of be a throwback show for the people, for you all out there listening. First, we've got to do a little bit of housekeeping. Our boy, Kevin Kisner, has called upon us. He has asked us to rally the troops for him to win. I think it's called the MetLife Challenge. I don't really care what it's called. The point is that if he wins and gets the most votes, you can vote for 20 times per day. he wins $750,000 to the Kisner Foundation, which he's very, very passionate about the Kisner Foundation.

He and his wife started this. They're raising a bunch of money for kids. You can vote 20 times a day. We've got the link everywhere. Okay. It's Bjator.com slash MetLife dash matchup. That's just what it is. You go, you find kids, you vote for him 20 times a day, and you power Kisner to get $750,000

to the Kisner Foundation, which means a lot to him. Kids is our boy. He's done this podcast. He comes and does videos and shit with us whenever we ask him to When we're out at tournament So we can repay him by voting for kids He's also going to challenge and try to beat me Speaking of challenges

In the five iron challenge Or he's going to have just a five iron I'm going to have my entire bag We are going to film that in the next couple months We are going to edit it And then put it out And it's going to be interesting To see who wins that

Very interesting He continues to church about it I'm fascinated Yeah You know I obviously want to win and I have a game plan I think I will win and I'm fascinated to see like what can that motherfucker really shoot with a five iron that shot he hit out of the bunker with a five iron

was that just opened my eyes to think that he could hit any shot that he wants to yeah he sent me a video that we can't put out because of obvious reasons but it's uh it's him in a green side bunker at a very very exclusive club uh short-sided with a five iron and he hits this little pop stroke face like totally pancaked open with a five iron. He hits this little like pop bunker shot that kind of comes out. Land's pretty soft and is inside of 10 feet. Totally short-sighted with a five-iron on some of the fastest, craziest screen you've ever seen.

So he can hit shots with that thing. Anyways, go vote for kids. Also just got to plug our stuff. Our YouTube page, I can't tell you how proud I am of our YouTube page of what our guys, Jake and Will and Logan have done with our YouTube page. It's really just an aggregation of all the video work that we've done. do a ton of video shit.

We put it out on Twitter. We put it out on the website. Some stuff just goes up on our Instagram. It's really hard to kind of like sit down and have an actual playlist or be able to kind of binge watch all the different videos that we've made until now because we discovered YouTube. You go on there. We got 20 something thousand subscribers now.

We need you to subscribe. Put up our video. One of our favorite videos, Frankie and I, that we've ever made, which is an hour and 20 minute video of us playing golf with Kevin Chappell at his home club in Seattle area, Aldera. Amazing golf clubs. You get to see the golf course. course you get to hear what it's like to play you know to to spend an hour and a half with

kevin chapel who's a pga tour winner we spent like four and a half hours with him but the video's only an hour and a half he's chirping he's betting against us you see what it's like to play around to golf with us what our full games look like over the course of you know 18 holes it's an awesome video he's the man he is the man seem like it seemed like it seemed like incredible dude just watch it just to get like what it feels like to be around the man like that's just like the interactions of like how cool that that guy is it's it's someone that someone that I want to emulate on the golf course. I want to be able to walk to the golf cart like Chappie.

Dude, he's cool. And then you just forget, I mean, he's been out all year because of his, he's had back issues. He had back surgery. And he's now starting to get back to where he's playing again and swinging again. But, you know, he was on the President's Cup team two years ago. Like, he won on the PGA tour. Like, he is fucking good because that's like, he's going to be our guy. He's going to be our kids number two.

Dude, he almost won the British Open last year, Carnie. Like, he is sick. And he's just mucking it up with us out there. He's got a lot of fire in him to get back out there. a couple of those clips kind of seeped their way into the video of him talking about, like, you know, he's got, he's got bolted board material, he's got reasons and motivations to get back out there and play. So he will be back, you know, kind of at the elite level

and one of the better players in the world pretty damn soon. So you can go watch that video. We've got a bunch of good stuff up there. So anyways, I'm plugging our YouTube page. And then also we got merch. I mean, our merch, sometimes I scroll through our merch page, and I just can't believe all the good stuff we put out because you forget about it. From Knithead covers, we got golf towels coming.

out. We already have a bunch out, but we've got new ones coming out, the white ones that you drape across your clubs to make it look like you're a really good player because that's what really good players do. I was rocking that this weekend. Smart. And I had it around my neck because of the sun. I was on the putting green. That's outrageous. I had it dropped around my neck and went all the way down to like my like my tits area and I just put. It actually kind of kept me kind of nice and did you did you wet it? I wet just the part that went around my neck. That's not terrible. I had it also. I mean, dude, like it was survival at that point. It had nothing to do with, like, the game of golf.

It was just like, if I'm going to make it, I got to do this. Yeah. My brother is a huge towel around his neck guy the whole round. Yeah. He just keeps it with him the whole round. He always dries off his hands before every shot. He's like a fucking tennis player out there. Well, Spath is a big towel guy.

Yeah, Spath is huge with that. It used to be a big backup ice hockey goalie move. You were sitting on the bench? Oh, yeah. Tow around the neck. And it's like rolled up too late. It's like super thick. Yeah.

Yeah. I should get in a men's league and just do that. Just work the door and just sit there. I always notice that speed is huge with his grip. used to resonate with that because like I need my grips to always be perfect like I don't know how some of these guys can go out there like it'll be like slightly like like moist out or whatever or raining and they'll go out with no glove like Whitney does that Whitney plays with no glove like how do your hands I don't know how that happens I just don't know like do you just have more sticky

hands once you reach a point golf where you're only comfortable or you're max comfortable with like maximum traction with a glove and all that then you can't can't go back. You can't go back to any moment where it's not perfect. I'm the same way. I feel like my glove's even slightly moist or wet. I'm like, the club's going to fly out of my hand. I'm going to lose my driver. I don't know what... I'm different there. Sometimes I play

all my wedges, pitching wedge down with no glove. I can't do it. Me neither. It's bizarre. It just feels more comfortable. If I'm taking even the slightest bit of a swing, I need a glove on. Obviously, I take it off on the greens or even like very, very close chips. If I'm 20 yards and out, have to have a glove. If I don't, it's, I mean, you

want to see a skull fuck. I'm the same way. I feel I'm just going to lose it. That's why I go, people always chirp me. You do just like eight gloves and shit. No, I do do that. But sometimes it gets so hot that I just abandon the regular glove on the first team. I go rain glove the whole round.

Those are great. That's a great move. Rain glove is so, the technology is so stunning and so effective that it literally gets better grip when it gets wetter. So I go rain glove and people are like, oh, you're wearing a black glove. You go like an idiot. I'm going to fuck what it look like. It's perfect. It's effective.

It's utility. And it just works. So that's an old hockey trick. You go rain glove on the first tee in hot weather. And you won't even notice it. It's just, it's not slick at all. All right.

Is it black, though? Yeah, that's why. We said this one time that you need to start making white rain gloves. Why can't you make a white glove? Why can't you make a white rain glove so we can start wearing it when we get sweaty? Because I look preposterous. Yeah, it looks insane.

I got this nice cool outfit on. Nice classy, like Peter Malar outfit on. You know, I got like maybe some khaki, a couple of colors. And then I just got a black glove. make it like a ass.

You can make it green so I can look like Charlie Hoffman. Like I want anything other than black. Anything other than black. Is that like part of the science that has to be black? Can't be. Can't be the reason. That's the reason. That's the reason.

That's stupid. We got to. I'll paint it. Science is a few years behind. If that's pretty good. You need better scientists. Also, I think if you paint it, it kind of loses. Yeah, you can't paint.

It'd be slick. Like, let's just figure out how to make a white. There's got to be a way to make a market that hasn't been tapped yet. Why don't we just come out? If we just come out with a four. We just come out with a foreplay white ring glove? I think we'd be billion. Are you fucking kidding?

Cut this out of the show. Let's just do this. This is going right up in heart. You're going to notice when you store that barcelessports.com slash golf wherever fuck we are, we're going to have a white ring glove. We got to do this in the next like 12 hours before those things go out. To go to the lab. How insane would that be?

I'd buy one. So would I. I think everyone in the room would buy it all the time. It has the same. Same everything. Just white. What's like, what's the where I'm looking for? Same capabilities.

as a rain glove? Is that the word? I think you're fine with that. Perfect. That works. Same capabilities as a regular rain glove. You know, the wetter it gets, the same traction it's going to have.

But it's white. So you could wear it on a 98 degree day. Nobody would even think. Like, look at that hard of wearing a rain glove. Instead, he's like, look at that nice white glove he's got on. But you're fucking sticking maybe. You're like, you don't know, dude. I'm pulling one over.

You have no idea. Oh, you're a little sweaty? I'm fine. Let's get to headlines. Yep. We're going to cut all that part because where you want to. keep that idea to ourselves. You know what?

No, keep it in. Like, if someone's listening to this and makes a rain glove before us, then you know what? Fine by them. Yeah, you get the W. I was kidding, Frank. You're not going to cut it, obviously. It's just a joke. We're just doing a little bit.

Well, that was also like me calling out the listeners like, go out and make a rain glove. Nobody's going to do anything. Let's get to the headline. Tiger Chasing History was on Golf Channel last night. If you missed it. It wasn't a documentary or anything like that. It actually wasn't anything that none of us had not seen before, but it was awesome. I mean, it was just straight pornography for an hour.

It just took you tournament through tournament All 80 fucking what one of them that he's got All 81 wins It just took you through every one of them And kind of the highlights You know the bigger ones they stopped They did a couple more minutes They kind of stretched it out a little bit

And it was just porn It was just like just Damn total mindless I didn't see it Mindless I didn't know we were going to be recording this early I wanted to watch this We were doing punk Last night

A little plug for me We were practicing Mulcahy's this Saturday He's a Saturday But while I playing the drums last night. I was thinking about how Tiger Woods was on TV and like it was porn and how I was missing it. It was great. We watched it twice and then it started spinning on the third time and then I just grabbed the remote. I was like we can't go third time. This is outrageous. It was mindless, total mindless pornography. Again, nothing that I hadn't seen before. Nothing was surprising. Nothing was like it. But it was awesome. I just sat there. It's like, yeah, hit it. Hit it. Hit me. Give it to me again. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Interviews and everything or no.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Spliced in some interviews. and some press conference moments from that week and then they'd hit you with a highlight and then he makes the putt and they'd hit you with him talking about the putt then they'd go to the next tournament then some of the stretches where he'd win five or six in a row they'd kind of just go through those in like 15 seconds then they'd get to the Masters and then a couple

big shots and it just was that for an hour straight I mean it was fine it wasn't like I wouldn't say it was amazing production it was just like it was like a cheap amateur pornography basically and you're just like you know what I did this this is great and it was for a full hour so I loved it Tiger Woods chasing history.

Speaking of Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas, our guy is back. This headline, the headline just says, Jack Nicholas, beating major record, quote, tough for Tiger Woods.

Now, when I saw that, a bunch of people tweeted that at me. Like, look at who he's back at it again. Old Jack is back on his bullshit. I got, there's some things about this

that I'm fine with, some things that I'm not fine with. Most of the quotes in this from Jack, I'm fine with. And I'm going to go through some of them. he goes through, he says, I don't want to put down Tiger by any means because Tiger, what a work ethic he's got and how great he's been. What he's done has been fantastic and we certainly can't fault any of that, but it's tough

to beat the record. It's just tougher. And he goes on to explain that. One of the hardest things to accept that as an older athlete, you're just not going to be as consistent as you were. We were in year 23. He went on to say that he suspected that Tiger was not feeling well. He said, you don't go into the Open Championship, particularly the last major of the year

and not really have played very much golf and not be as prepared as you'd like to be. And his point with that was like, that's just a function of him being older and going through surgery and that. That I'm fine with. I actually very much agree with that. That's been a lot of what I've been defending, which is that Tiger Woods is not done or dead. It's not the beginning of the end. Tiger is just going to go through phases where he's in great shape and feeling awesome.

He's going to go through phases where he feels like dog shit and he can't move. Maybe it's cold out and all that. That's fine. What I don't like is I got to this part where what Jacks, said was whatever he does speaking about tiger in the future golf wise is probably really not that important what's more important that he's healthy and what golf he does play he enjoys you know how important it is that is dog shit jack's the fuck out of here the thing that you're saying is not important is the only thing that matters to you in life he goes on and breaks the

we're talking about beating my record is that important not that important to the guy chasing it is the most important record in the history of golf important is that guy that's the closest that anybody will ever get like is that that big of a deal as long as he's enjoying himself he's like trying to speak into existence that tiger shouldn't like try and beat his record correct you know what man it's not that important like i don't really care about it so you shouldn't have to do it like dude go watch the movies or something stop trying to play go fish yeah fish yeah fish yeah literally go fish remember that sob story of him getting pulled in when tiger was one of the masters he like had He had to, the audacity had to come in and watch, you know, tire inch that much closer to his record.

Just stay out there, Jack. Get rid of your cable. Stop paying that bill every month. Who gives a fuck? What are you coming in from the ocean for? Stay on your fucking boat. You do a little fishing, you hang out. If you're not that worried about it, why are you coming in?

Why are you going back into the shack? Why are you having Barbara call you in from fishing your nice little afternoon out in the Bahamas, wherever you were? Why are you coming back in and watching? You know why? Because this quote, whatever he does in the future golf wise, is probably, really not that important is just false. If I'm his family, I create a reality around him that Tiger isn't going to beat his record. He's old enough now that they can mess with the apps on his phone.

They can mess with the TV. Jack doesn't know, I mean, it's true. Jack doesn't know what's going on. Create a reality. Tiger wants 20 majors. His family shouldn't let him know. You know what? Build the Truman Show for him.

That's exactly what I was thinking. I have the Truman show in my head. The Nicholas show. What I love about this. Just create this fake reality that he, until the day he dies, he's just like, I'm the greatest. Nothing ever happened. You even say, like, did you hear the news, Jack? And it's like, Tiger got busted for steroids.

Like 10 of his majors don't count. And then Jack can be like, oh, man, that's great. That's great. No stress. Now I don't have to watch TV or check my phone. I'm going to fish in a while. When Tiger beats the record, he walks out of his bedroom and he, like, goes to the TV, and they just have a picture of Tiger, like, on the ground with his, like, back hurt.

And he's like, what happened? They're like, well, it happened again, Jack. He's done. You did it. And he just goes back into his room and never comes back there. And that in this make-believe world that we made up, I would hope that Tiger would break the record, he catches wind that his family's doing this to him. And Tiger shows up at his doorstep and is like, I broke your record, bud, and closes the door in his face. Yeah, I mean, again,

if you really love Jack Nicholas, I think that's what you have to do. I think you have to just surround him with this reality of just pure bliss and happiness and you're the greatest of all time, no matter what. And then he just sails off into the sunset for the rest of his days, you know, again, experiencing pure happiness, which he earned because he had, you know, up to this point, He's had the greatest career in the history of golf. He really has. 18 majors, all that. And I would just not even allow him to be plugged in at all to what Tiger Woods is doing.

Correct. Instead, he's dropping again. Some of these quotes, which I think we're being very fair here, a lot of them. And the headline, I thought, too, was a little bit, you know, that's clickbait. Oh, yeah. That was not the major point of the whole thing. He actually explained it in very good sense, I thought. It was just a couple of these lines, especially the one about golf-wise, whatever he does in the future.

Probably really not that important. That's just a lie. That's just blatantly a lie. Transfusion season. I'm actually going to be out at Banded Dunes for the next several days. So I've been tweeting about that. Yep. I'm going with Maginella, my boy, B.R., a bunch of other folks that it's just his annual trip to Bandan.

I got invited. I'm going to film a couple of videos. It's going to be a great week. But the end of the day, I'm going to be drinking transfusions. And I'm going to be having New Amsterdam vodka flowing in my veins because New Amsterdam vodka believes that when you have an uncompromising passion and a competitive spirit, you can achieve great things. So Speer has inspired New Amsterdam vodka to produce a vodka of superb taste and unparalleled smoothness. They distill their vodka five times using only the finest quality grains from America's heartland,

resulting in a premium vodka with unparalleled smoothness. It's then filtered three times for a clean, crisp finish. New Amsterdam vodka, they're the official vodka of Barstool Sports, and they're the official vodka of the transfusions that I'm going to drink this week. So go get yourself some New Amsterdam vodka. Brannel Shambly, our boy who we've had on this show a handful of times, Love Brandel. I think he's the best in the biz.

I will defend that motherfucker to my great, really. Even right in Brooks Keppka's face. He was like, how do you guys feel about Brando? I was like, I kind of love Brando. And that was when he was like, well, I'll just let my last tweet speak for it, which he clown-nosed Roger Goodell, clown-nosed Brandel. But love Brandl and congrats to Brandl. He qualified for the senior Open Championship yet again, back-to-back years.

I thought this tweet was awesome from Will Gray, who's a golf channel guy who I quote on this show a lot because I think he does a great job. He's one of their best riders. He said props to Brando Chambly, worked a full week at Port Rush, refereed countless pint-fueled media hotel discussions, debates, which means he was just at the bar every night with the boys and girls, hopped a flight this morning to England, went to the course, got a spot in the senior open for the second straight year.

That's just how you do it, right? He hasn't spent, like, the last month straight just grinding to, like, prove that he could do it. He's doing his job. He's as well prepared as you could be on the coverage. He's drop of bombs. my boy last week said that he's just got his A game this week, Brandel. And he did. He was dropping nuggets left and right.

He does all of his research. He delivers. He's hanging out clearly, like in the hotel, in the lobby with all the other media types. I'm sure they're debate. He's getting into it doing it. And then he just hops a flight to England and qualifies for the other. Brandl strikes me as a type of guy who gets maybe like two and a half hours of sleep at night and is totally fine. He's one of those guys who can just function on 45 to 50 minutes or rest.

And then he's just up. He's still as sharp as ever. I mean, that's Will Gray kind of alluded to that. He's worked all week, and then he went to, he drank all week a little bit, had a few drinks, hopped on a flight qualified. I bet he sleeps three hours a night maximum. I was just at the office water cooler, having a little, you know, conversations with some of the people at this office. And Big Cat was over there. And he is now a noted Brandl Shambly hater.

Yep. He said, you know, he was talking to me about my Brooks Kepka takes, and like, you're never going to be a part of the Gucci gang now doing his Big Cat bit. And he's like, so I was like, well, no, I'm still a Brooks Kepka fan. I don't have anything against Brooks Kepka. I like the guy. I don't like his fans right now, whatever, the whole thing. And then he said, well, now, what do you think about Brandy Chambi? So he says that he's going to be really hard on the Brandy Chambi

when he shows up to like these senior opens and stuff. So Brandy has Brando. I don't want to call him Brand. Wow, what a cool little thing that got through Brandy Chambi. He's never going to say his name. He's totally roasted him by not saying his name. Big Cat's doing that thing that like bar stool haters do to us where they say, like, bar tool sports, like they don't know the name.

Like, you know, Bradshaw's name. He's doing what, uh, what, uh, Bill Belichick does with a snap face. Yeah, like, you know it's called Facebook. Yeah. You just know that. Exactly. I hate when people, like, you know the guy's name. You have to.

We know, you don't use Facebook all the time. We know, you don't use Facebook all the time, uh, Bill Belichick, but like, you know that it's just called. Brandl triggered, is that he had to, like, make up a nickname for him. He acts like he doesn't know what he is, but he knows every quote he's ever said about Brooks. Do you think Brandl hit any book? balls at Port Rush?

I think yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just wondering how many of it did. Like how much work do you think he put in that week before? I think Brandl's got kind of like a cocky swagger to us. I think he was probably, I mean, he was probably practicing. Yeah. I think so too.

Yeah. His tweet like probably isn't 100% correct. Like him just like drinking, having debates, hopping on a flight and just playing. Well, no, but he didn't put on here that he never hit any balls. He was just saying that he did all these things in a week. That's pretty cool. Yeah. I know.

I think that there was some preparation for sure. I mean, there's 24 hours in a day. Like, yeah. This doesn't take 24 hours. 24 hours. That's a TV show. Great show. Jack Bauer.

Jack Bauer. Big Cat also legitimately weaponizes social media against Brattle Shambl. Yes. Because he knows he's just an easy target. So him doing the Chamby Braden like that is just pathetic in my opinion. It's absolutely pathetic. Love Brantle. Brandel's a great dude.

From the gallery, let's get into it. Reminder. And we need a bunch of submissions for Play at barstool sports.com. That is the email. Send a shit. Okay. We check it. I check it.

Jake checks it. We scroll through it. We read your stuff. You send me long emails. I won't read them. Actually, quick, before we go to it, I have another headline. Okay. This Long Island teen, Alex Freeman, set the Guinness mark for most putts in an hour.

Guess how, well, now Trent's looking at the screen. Guess how many putts this kid drained in an hour for the Guinness World Record? Does it have to be from a certain distance? He sank them from 15 feet. 15, they were all 15 footers. Yeah. And he made this many in an hour. Yes.

What number first popped in your head? You know, minutes in an hour. Okay, you can probably make, how many, how many putts can you make every minute? How many 15 footers did he make in one hour? That's outrageous. It can be max, max 600. I'm going to say 380. Okay, rigs?

415. Okay. Alex Freeman sank 972 15 foot puts in one hour. Good stuff. I mean, this kid. It is an outrageous putter. That's outrageous. Do you think it's got a kill inside not to get to a thousand?

I think so. He's 17 years old. His record's going to be in the Guinness 2020 publication. It was a record that nobody had done before. I just thought it would be unique. Plus it pertains to golf and somewhat similar to what my dad did. It does pertain to golf. The younger Freeman said back in the 90s,

his dad set a record for most holes played two different times in two different years. We might have to do that. What an operation he must have had. So he's got to have somebody feeding him. He's got to have another guy kind of clearing out balls and then somebody's pulling out balls at like an insane pace. Yeah, he did this at Glenhead Country Club in Long Island. That's crazy.

We need to, we need to, we need to, I mean, you can just come up with any fucking record. Why don't we just come up with one? Dude, the guy. Do it. And then we're in the book. The guy that, um, the guy that. The guy that. Where's the cut up?

I did in like third grade. Me and my buddies collected all, um, the little, like, post-it pins that you have. And we submitted like 10,000 posted pins in third grade to get us book a world record. We had it. So you're in the book? I think we got kicked out, but we were in there for a little bit. What did you mean kicked out? Somebody opt us.

So you were never in there? No, we were in there and then somebody, I think, had the record above us. So was there a copy one year that you're in? I believe so. My buddy. How do you not know? Because it was in third grade. You gotta know.

I gotta tell the story, but I gotta know if I was in the book. You gotta know. I'll follow up with my boy, Obie. Read it. If I did the math correctly, which is unlikely. It's in the book. Read it. It's in the Guinness book, maybe.

Read it. It's in the handout. 16.2 puts a minute? Dude, 15 footers. That's crazy. What do you think his percentage was? Is your math right there?

What do you think his percentage was? 972 divided by what? 60. Yeah, 16. Wow. What do you think his percentage was? Freeman practice is making like 80% of his puts? 50% just going rapid, rapid, rapid, rapid fire?

I'd say 70%. Yeah, I think that's somewhere between 60 and 80 is my guess. Somewhere in that window, right? I wonder what is the longest streak. it's a good question like 120 I wonder where his worst streak was another great question

where he missed like six and a row he was a long island kid yeah yep what do you get to was his number 972 I can't believe he didn't get to a thousand if you don't get to a thousand that point then I'd say just don't put it in the book or run it again dude he probably shattered

whatever I mean I don't think it'd even been done but you guys are saying like 300 500 he had 972 he was thinking 16 15 footers 15 14 footers are no fucking joke. No, no joke at all.

And he made 16 of them per minute, according to my math. That's crazy. I would love to know the streaks, like you said, the best and the worst. Dude, these golf streaks and Guinness Book of World Record Streaks for golf are unbelievable. The guy that we played with in the last couple holes at Paso Tiampo was a Guinness Book World Record holder for most holes played in one week. He played 2,000 holes in a week. It was 16 rounds a day. I was so disoriented by the time we were done with that pasta tempo round.

I didn't know if that guy was a figment of mine. I couldn't believe that from that video. It's right here. Gino Bonali shatters Guinness World Record for Cisinosis, whatever. It was like a research foundation that he was playing for. 2,000 holes of golf. He played 16 rounds a day. How do you do that?

Imagine being on the 12th round being like, I'm fucking done. Imagine me on the 12th round and you've got four more? Yeah, that's what I mean. I mean, playing one round after you've played one already? Fourth round And say I have So I'm not even close I'm not even halfway there

You're just buzzing around I know that it was for a good cause But yeah during the fourth round You gotta be like Wait what am I doing? What's this? What am I doing out here now? I'm always perplexed by the good cause stuff

Like can't you just raise that money Well now he's like Will people only World Record holder too which is sick That's sick But when people are like Oh what they did it for a good cause Can't isn't there

Can't you just like Raise that money You can just tweet and be like Let's raise some money I'm always like Are people like the John Deere Classic. Are people out there saying I'm only going to give money if you play 16 hours a day.

Maybe this guy doesn't have as much of a. That's just that's my point. Those people are. Do this super hard impossible task that's going to drain you and potentially kill you. Otherwise I'm not. And I'll be charitable. Otherwise I won't be. If you just want me to be charitable, I won't be.

However, if you do this grueling, horrific, terrible thing for you that you're going to hate and it's going to suck. It really depends on who brought it forward the idea. If the guy doing it brought it forward, then you're just like, all right, then do it. But if it's the people who are potentially donating money, we're like, you got to do this. That's awful. That's awful. That's bad. This guy, Gino, who played 2,000 holes in one week,

also shattered so many more records where he made the most birdies in a week, 491 birdies in a week. And he made 12 birdies in 12. I'm sorry. He made 67 birdies in 12 hours. I had 67 birdies in like half the day. What we got to do is we got to find a record we think we can break or make up one that does.

doesn't exist yet and I think we got to get in a book well that's what the long island kid did did he made up that thing that wasn't a thing he just made it up most putts i like that i like we do most puts from like two inches no what if we did he did well just uh we'll just uh well just uh well six minute abs him we'll just go most puts ever made from 14 feet we'll just do it right right yeah or 16 feet or whatever we want to do yeah make it a little different we'll just do it and we'll just spend a whole weekend doing it until we get till we get the right i mean this family clearly has like a hard on for like setting records i mean the dad set two records this kid's out there knocking in a thousand bucks i didn't become record people i

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Let's get into, let's get into from the gallery. They love this shit. Forwardplay at barstolesports.com. That's the email. Send us stuff. If it's really long, I won't read it.

It's got to be short, concise. Otherwise, I just can't do it. I can't spend my whole day reading nine paragraphs. So it's got to be short. It's got to be concise. Some of them even start. Hey, Riggs. I know you said you don't read long emails,

but this one's good. Trust me. On to the next email. I don't read those. You're out of here. You, you're out of here. It's in the handout. Read it.

Except I won't read it because I didn't read the handout. Same kind of thing. Foreplay at barstolesolesports.com. First one's really simple. I just wanted to get talking about this because the J.B. Holmes thing where he went 69-87 on the weekend. That was his back-to-back rounds. It really started to get, I really wanted to touch back on what we talked about a couple of times over the last couple weeks, which is that golf is just impossible. And I can't remember I was texting a couple friends of mine, but it was like I was essentially saying,

Even the best players in the world, golf is impossible for them. Even like Brooks Kevka, who is, you know, a machine in majors. And we say he's unstoppable in majors, really had just a terrible weekend playing golf. Like he had about as bad a weekend playing golf as he could have in a major championship. Even though he's Brooks Kevka. And he's like the best player in the world when it comes to major championships. He had a bad, frustrating weekend where he was just furied. And after his round Saturday, he was all pissed off and he's making comments and all that.

J.B. Holmes goes 69. He actually went 66, 68, 69, 87. That's how hard golf is. So it got me thinking, what are some of the craziest, like, back-to-back rounds ever in terms of spreads? And a bunch of people were tweeting at me. I actually tried to Google this for a second, but it's hard to find that. And I'm just not a statistician. That's a tough Google.

Really tough Google. Google's like, what are you trying to do here, pal? Google could not figure out what I was trying to do. And I didn't know how to tell Google. Yeah. I don't know what you searched for. It really had to cut. I had to get an article that just delivered what I was trying to say, and I couldn't find one in time.

This is where they need, like, they've got basketball reference pages, baseball reference pages. You can kind of mess with all the data. All the data on it. Golf's just, I don't, to my knowledge, I don't think golf has that. And I just don't know how to do that. I don't know how to, like, mess. Like, what could I figure out? Like, how, anyways, it doesn't really matter.

We're not here to talk about that. We're here to talk about are the crazy spreads. Rory in 2010 at St. Andrews, the old course, started with a 63. He tied the major championship record. And then in the second round, he went 80. 6380 is incredible. That was a ton of wind and all that, I believe, but still, 6380. Tiger at the 2002, British Open went 70, 68, 81, 65.

So he went 68, 81. Those were his back to background. Smiley Kaufman, if folks remember from 2016 Masters, this one he was playing good golf, real golf, 69 Saturday, and then an 81 in the final round, playing in the final group was Speeith in 2016 Masters. J.B. Holmes had another one at the 2007 Players Championship, where he went 70, 84 in the final round.

So he has a little bit of a thing going where he's posted in 84 and 87 now and huge tournaments in the final round. And then somebody also reminded me of Jason Gore, who was the 05 U.S. Open fan favorite. I remember watching that. He just looked like such a common man. He was such a salt to the earth guy. He was kind of the Rocco mediate.

Everybody obviously remembers Rocco from 08 against Tiger. That was like the Jason Gore year. He went 67 Friday, 72, Saturday, 84. Sunday. So that kind of got me talking. What are some of the crazier back-to-backs that you guys have had? I mean, for me, I haven't played many, you know, that many back-to-backs, you know, like some of the golf trips that I go on. I mean, nothing really stands out to me where it's like I had an unbelievable day one day and then a horrendous day the next. If I'm on a golf trip, it's usually all the same. I'm either playing really poorly or I'm just playing like, you know,

my game. But I mean, just recently, I played back-to-back days at that Cherry Valley Club on Long Island where the first day I went 42, 38 on the back, shot an 80, was feeling really good about my game, played not even like 13 hours later on the same course. I'm like, I just shot 30 in the back, going to step up to the first tee. I'm going to pluck fucking play this golf course. Great. I was playing with Brock Nelson on the Islanders. I'm like, I'm going to win this match, everything. First ball went OB and I mean, I shot 90. So it was like back-to-back, 10 stroke difference, same course, 12 hours. apart so that was tough just on our recent golf trip i shot even par i don't know if anybody knows that shot even par um and then the next day at whistling i shot an 89

yeah you went 73 88 yeah yeah yeah 16 strokes same course uh different course but pretty much just picking up a stroke every hole yeah and i mean the course was way way harder way harder so but still i mean it's still even if it's way harder you add like eight shots yeah but that's wild i um So I, on the same trip, we played Chicago for a couple days first, and then we went to Wisconsin, and I went, actually, my three rounds, I went 78, 7, 79, 91 at Aaron Hills. And then I also had within a couple times, Frankie was there for one of them. At Chambers Bay, the first time we played it, I went 46-36 for an 82. That was nuts.

That was nuts. and then at whistling, I went 5139. Holy fuck. That's a big swing. Trent, you just had a big one. Well, page one. Well,

I do know. My numbers are so different and astronomical in terms of the actual score that, but I have noticed when I end up playing well, like I remember I played well at Blue Jack. Yes, you did. And then I played well at Spyglass. Obviously, those aren't back to back.

Those are in much different places. But I do find that the round that I play after those rounds are by far like the worst that I've played in recent memory. Yeah. Because I feel like I've got it figured out, and then I get to the driving range to warm up a little bit, and it's just over. I'm like, oh, no. Like, I think it's going to carry over from a bluejack or a spyglass, and it just doesn't. So that's always, that's a trend I'm noticing in my game, and I'm not sure how to stop it.

But I think it's, it is. I'm a little cocky. Like, I got this. I'm hitting the ball. Yeah. Just one big deep breath. This guy, this guy on Twitter, EP 42, 42, 42. that's his handle

He said Yeah clearly He said I went 7499 Last weekend That is That is something I mean a 25 stroke difference Did you play lefty the second round

What the hell happened? Just shocking But we would like to hear more From folks about You know the differences in your round This guy said he went 6582 On a bachelor party If you're shooting 65

That was 65 flex Yeah it was And another guy, I mean, this guy just wanted to tweet this flex. I didn't even want to read it, but I will because I want to make fun of him. Because he wrote, oh, my 67, 76 a couple weeks ago, and the club championship was brutal. No, it wasn't. That's just like, that's just pretty fucking good golf. 67, 76.

Yeah, that's fine. Like, your horrible round is 76. Yeah. Jamie Holmes is looking at that like, oh, wow. Yeah, right. Oh, that would have saved me some money. Man, that would have saved me like half a million dollars. So, you know, whereas this guy now, Jimmy tweeted.

just going through these in real time. He said, I went 74-95 in my club championship when I was 17. That's pretty good. He said he also had a smooth 32-54 his senior year of high school. Oh, that's good stuff. So it is. It's just a reminder, folks, when you're out there, when you're frustrated, we've all been really frustrated at the course.

It happens to everybody. You can just lose it, then you can get it back. You absolutely never know. Sometimes it's back-to-back round. Sometimes it's back-to-back nine holes. Sometimes you can play the first five holes at like 15 over and then play the next four holes at one under and salvage a nine holes.

So you just never fucking know. Ryan says, what type of golfers are worse? Sambaggers who only post high scores or Hollywood handicappers. I've never heard it called that. No, me. Who only post low scores?

It's not even close. It's sandbaggers, right? Especially if you continue to be a sandbagger and like play more and then get, you know, the handicap and all that stuff and get more strokes every time you play. That's bullshit. Definitely sandbaggers.

100%. point at one club that I was very familiar with. We, they caught a few guys who would post their scores and they were notorious. Everybody knew they were sandbaggers. Everybody knew they were kind of like a little bit scummy when it came to gamble on golf and all that. They would post their scores, but they would post them from the white T's. Interesting. So we'd always play the blues.

They would post their scores and it was like impossible to detect because he'd be like, oh yeah, no, he always posted scores. I just, you know, I don't know why he, every time he's, It plays in like a member of guess or something. He wins like two grand. He just dusts everybody. They were posting their scores from the white D's. Isn't that insane?

Their handicap went up, you know, probably four or five shots from that. And it was just always four or five shots higher than it should be. Isn't that insane? Has anyone in this room ever heard of Hollywood handicap? Nope. No, I've never heard of that. I know people that do it, but I don't, never heard that term. It's always vanity handicap.

That's kind of what I've always heard. And that one is bad too because then you're doing it just like, it's just a pure ego thing. Totally. You just want to be able to tell people your ex-handicap. So you get a little bit of both of it. I would say sandbaggers are worse, but both have kind of their negatives. Connor says breaking clubs, trust me. It's the easiest thing in the world to break an iron shaft.

You can literally break one over the back of your neck. Shoulders with your hands on each side of the club. It's very easy. So a lot of people were saying because we spoke last week or a day ago that Frankie, you were basically like if I tried to break a club over my leg, my leg would break in half. I think so. I think you'd be able to do it. Yeah?

And I think we just should test it out. Yeah. I got some tweets saying like they're 35. bucks you might as well just go get a cheap one oh we have clubs yeah we just people so we can just do it i think you could do it i don't if i think you would i think you would disappoint everybody in the room if you couldn't that'd be that'd be tough i certainly wouldn't break it over my neck i think i would like with a metal i think i think i just keep that to the knee go straight knee yeah but i still gotta go knee knee i think he was just making the point

yeah no i don't think he was saying go do it uh i think you break it right over the thigh i think that's kind of the move that's isn't that the strongest muscle in your you know this guy isn't that your femur right here yeah i think you're i think you're i think you're Fever's the bone, right? Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of meat there. These are like your quads. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Those things hold you up. They'll let you walk around. Tons. Chris says, this is a weird one. I'm 17 handicap. Driver is inconsistent. If I score my low with a three wood only, is it legit?

My three wood goes about $250 off the T. One of the weirdest messages I've ever gotten. I don't even know what this fucking means. No. It's wondering why you put it on here. I'm confused. Because I was so perplexed. Do people think like this?

Another thing. If it's a short response to Riggs and it's confusing, might get on here. Yeah. Yeah, the criteria is everywhere. Yeah, no, it's a little balanced. Look, first of all, he says his three would goes 250. Yeah, he's a 17-4. I'm trying to do that math.

I mean, why would you ever hit your driver? If your driver's inconsistent and you're hitting in Frankie, this is a perfect example. I kind of put it on here because it's, you know, relatable to Frankie who's been hitting three-wood only. Yep. What do you mean, is your score legit? What are you talking about? You hit whatever fucking call. Tiger won a British Open hitting two drivers the whole week.

What was that, yeah? It's legit. At what point do you, like, when does score ever have to do with what club you had? I mean, there's plenty of times I go a full round and don't play my six iron. Like, I still count my score. Exactly. It's like a little asterisk. Like, I didn't use my six iron. Can't count this score. There's nothing in the rules of golf. Let's say you have to use every club in your bag during the round of golf. Nothing ever, never. That's never been even close. In fact, I would say it's very smart to buy like that. I think most people would shave at least a handful, if not more strokes off their game. they played with a mindset closer to this of you stay on the tea that's something i've started to do a lot more recently which is that basically if i play any par four um where the yardage is like 370 or less i'm going to hit three iron off the tea my three iron goes around 220 230 off the tea if i don't

hit it great it still gets out there 200 yards so even if i hit kind of a shitty three iron i'm in the fairway like 170 or 160 out that's incredible that's like an eight or seven iron in and we're in great shape we can play pretty much park off very easily or relatively easily from there. So I have kind of just a rule of thumb where and that's actually saved me a ton of strokes because you know if a hole's only 360 or 370, usually that means there's a lot of trouble out there. You get into some weird like bunker that's 100 yards out and then you flub one and next thing you know you make double. Whereas if you just play smart, I think you save yourself a lot of strokes.

That's another reason I want to put that in there. More people should do that, Chris. And yes, it's very legitimate to play golf of the three wood. That's why they make it. All right. Whether you're an athlete, a weekend warrior, someone who deals with. constant joint pain, back pain, muscle, soreness, or arthritis, which is going to happen to anybody who really goes on a golf trip

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But out there, Brian Silva designed it. He also did Great Horse and Black Rock, which are two really cool spots. I like Brian Silver's work. He said he got his first hole-on-one this last weekend. After the round, he's trying to think of the best way to memorialize it. He says, I have the golf ball, the scorecard, and a picture of me taking the ball out of the cup.

I was thinking of putting a scorecard and golf ball on a plaque for my house. I wanted to hear what you guys would do if you ever had any other suggestions. Well, we've never gotten a whole-in-ones, but I think you have everything you need. I mean, he's got the golf ball. We should.

He's got the scorecard. He's got a picture. Another thing we can sell. Here we go. Another thing we'd sell. A white rain glove. And you also just, you make a hole-in-one memorization like plaque,

where it can hold a picture, it can hold a golf ball, it can hold a score card, and you just make it a whole thing. You sell those. I'm sure people sell those. They have. Oh, okay.

Then that's a good idea. I would guess. I would guess that you can buy it. You have to be. They do, yeah. There's clubs that do it. There you go. Yeah, there's clubs that and they do like a wooden plaque for you.

It's kind of sick. My girlfriend's dad. I know that, but like he says a whole little plaque. If your club doesn't, like, you know, you can't just get a whole one at a club that doesn't.

Well, like, I mean, Trent's kind of getting rules for his idea about we make things that are already made. Like we make golfing covers. Yeah, we can just make like a four play one. Yeah. And like we like have a list of all four.

Like, why don't people start? You get a shout out on the pot. Well, people start sending in their whole and ones to us instead of fucking Newsday. Get a shout out on them. The news day? Yeah. In that article that I just read of that kid knocking in, that psycho knocking in 975 putts and 15 foot puts on the bottom was just all the whole ones that week around Long Island. Really?

They get shouted out. That's a thing. Oh, yeah. Send them to us. That's what I mean. Yeah. Maybe at the end of every show. How are we going to know though?

Yeah, that's the thing. It looks the same way with everything. Yeah. How do you know in that news? paper that they sent them to you know like true but there's a certain honor and integrity in this and i mean and i'll say this if we find out that you lied to us we will roast you on the show we'll be yeah we'll be mean so if you're going to send in your whole one we want to have like a little two-sentence story about like the hole the distance the weather what happened

like during the home one i like to you included the weather the weather doesn't get included enough no you know because you could have you know somebody could be like yeah i got a whole on one it was 185 I hit a four iron people would be like, oh, you only hit your forearm, one, 85. It's like, I'm not playing golf in a vacuum, dude. That could be into the wind, that could be uphill. Great point. Include the weather.

And did you see it go in? True. That's always a good one. Yeah. I would really like to see it go in if I got a whole one. Totally. If you don't see it go in, it's kind of anticomatic. Closest I ever came last year was Lurch and I were playing together

and it was the most see it go in hole of all time. And I threw like a gap wedge behind the hole like 15 feet and it spun down this ridge going right at the hole. we were like that's just it and it's just going in and it went right by the way oh! I got out of the ground.

I'm insane. We played at that Morris County Golf Club place. It was probably the closest I've come to a hole in one in like a couple seasons of golf. Like it was a really short 135 yard hole.

I took out my 48 degree because did I tell you that when I was complaining about how when I got my titleless clubs fitted that they gave me a 48 degree and a pitching wedge? Usually the 48 degree is a pitching wedge. Yeah, you did tell me about it.

Yeah, so now my, so I got a bunch of tweets that, that the AP3s are, the pitching which is a 43 degree. So it just goes further. It's just like more loaded and shit. Like that, so that's the difference. So I took up my 48 degree. I was playing very well. I was feeling it. And it just like, it was one of those that you're like, man, it's a short enough hole where like,

I know that this thing's going to be right by the pin. You don't have to judge that much distance while it's in the air. I'm like, this thing's right at the pin. Went behind it and spun back like in a tiger video game and it fucking just came like probably two, feet or like a foot and a half to the right of it just had that chance you know yeah and you always think when you do that you're like I'm never going to get one in like that's the best shot I can hit a tap in birdie like right next to the hole like that is the best I can go it's never going to go in ever ever I'm never going to get a whole one all right you done you're pretty negative about it I think

you got to have a better attitude about just doing your little rant here Kirk says on a weekend last on a weekend like last weekend would you rather be a player that a plays in the open but misses the cut or B, notches a win at the Barbasol championship. What do you take home when you win the Barbasol? That would be my question. Some fucking shaving cream. I bet you're close to a million dollars. Maybe six, seven, eight hundred thousand dollars?

I think you take the W because you can always just say I got a W on the PJ Tour. And, you know, most people just look at that to win. You can clear almost a million bucks. I think you win the Barbasol. I think it's a good little thing to have under your belt. I think when you look at it, you know, financially and really rationally, it's, it's you win the barbersoll i think that's kind of a no-brainer and i think that winning that kind of means like you'll play in the british open totally right i'm a win for sure yeah also 630 000 a ton of money

like the open you make the cut or sorry playing the open missed the cut like you're no depends what kind of play you are but no i'm taking the win got it would be cool to play in the open totally yeah but he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna i know that's kind of outside the hypothetical but he's going to and he got 600 thousand dollars the guy who won the barbos yeah you play the open it's like jim German. You get cut. You're playing like shit, and you're flailing all over the place.

You're like Matthew Fitzpatrick. You're running off the golf course. You're down 15 grand from all the travels being over there. Yeah, the rain. You don't want to be out there. No. I'll take my money. Rory was crying.

Well, he had a different situation. Jackson says, my question is, how strictly should the common man golfer follow the USGA rules? I recently broke 100 for the first time with the 96, but felt a little dirty due to the three or four mulligans I took throughout the round. No, that's a lot of mulligans. Should the common man go off or follow every rule to the letter, or is it okay to take a few liberties here and there? It's totally up to your group, whatever the hell you guys want to do.

I think it's totally fine to take mulligans. The only thing I have complete, like, I take a lot of humor in is the fact that you're bragging about breaking 100 when you shot at 96, when you took four mulligans. Yeah, it's too many mulligans. You just didn't break 100. I think you can take liberties, like, especially if you're trying to break 100, like, dude, if you're, like, right behind a tree and you don't want to break your club or something,

Like, dude, like, no one has a problem if you're going to, like, pitch out to move it just a little more of the right. Give yourself a clear. Like, there's certain things where, like, I'm not going to hit the green here anyway. I don't feel like killing myself to hit. I'm not, I'm not on the PGA tour about to hit a perfect bump and run under this tree. Like, do what you got to do to have a fun round. Totally. My only thing is just don't, don't brag about your score.

Like, you can do whatever you please. Roll it over. But then when you're like, oh, yeah, I shot like an 88. I broke 90 this week as well, you didn't. Right. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it is you have to do the cap. you out if people ask what you shoot you can't just be like yeah shot 96 and i don't think he was doing that he's kind of saying like no i felt a little dirty about it because of and here's x y and z

what should i do about it i think the answer is exactly what you're saying frank you're like play whatever's going to make you have like the most fun now if you are really getting competitive or you really want to challenge yourself or you really want to see how you stack up and all that then you kind of play pretty much closer to the to the rules of golf but there's nothing worse than everybody who's like playing super strictly to the rules of golf to the point where they're like putting everything out in every hole and they're playing a two-on-two with people, it's like, dude, if your partner wins the hole and he's in for par and you've got 35 feet for bogey, fucking pick that thing up, take the most likely score, which is probably a double,

write that thing down for your handicap and move on because everybody's just trying to get out of here. But if you're out there, maybe it's just two of you and you're not holding anybody up and you're right on the group in front of you's like heels and you really want to like see, okay, I'm playing a sick course. I really want to see what my score is going to be, you know, then play closer to the letter of the law. But the end of the day, I mean, you could even go as far as like, yeah, every law you have on the course, you just place it within a club length.

Like, that's fine. We do that in the winter sometimes. Like, you just place it. Give yourself a great lie. Who gives a shit? We're out here to have fun. As long as everybody's on the same page, what you cannot do is be like, you know, all right, we're playing for $100 here. And I think it's cool if he doesn't mind if I just move this around this tree. Like, no, that's probably not coach. But bottom line, figure it out with your group, make sure everybody's on the same page and play however the hell you want to play.

Play to your group. Exactly. Adam says, and his question is kind of about, should you feel better about Tiger 2018 or Tiger 2019? said he's a huge Tiger fan, his resurgence to the top of golf, has been absolutely electric. However, I feel like I'd take his 2018 season, eight top tens in the hunt at Belrieve and Karnusti, won the FedEx Cup event at Eastlake over 2019. After the Masters, which was obviously sick, he's basically played like dog shit and hasn't made me feel very good about his game. What do you think? I'm going to take 2019.

It's a good question. It is a good question. And I understand where he's coming from. the reason I take 2019 and a part of it is selfish is because we got to rub it in everybody's face. No, that's awesome. But obviously the master's more important than literally everything else that's happened in the last 11 years for Tiger. I mean, yeah, the master's. But I think the answer then.

But if you really look like, it depends what the real question is. Like the question is. Which one are you going to take? Would you rather have him playing that way like now that we're heading into the future? Right, right. Like I think that I think you can make a hard argument. that like at this point last year, we were feeling way better about Tiger and his future than we are right now.

I agree with that. I think you take the 2019 season, but leaving the season, you take 2018 is better than 19. Like the player, Tiger would because if you're taking the 2019 season, like that's the season. This is where we're at in that season. Well, if the question is season,

then it's 2019. If the question is, as I try to reread it quickly, you know, how do you feel better? Okay, about Tiger leaving the 2018 season. I would say leaving the 2018 season. Yeah.

I guess like at the end of the day, like last year, at the end of the day, this year, it was been a really shit year outside of the Masters. I mean, he withdrew from before the Masters. He withdrew from Bay Hill because he had like some sort of injury he claimed. I think it was probably just to rest up for like the players. But he like withdrew from that. He has missed two cuts at majors and like kind of looked like shit and like groggy and not good. So like really the season on the whole, it felt a lot more.

throughout the entire year last year, like Tiger Woods is building up to a run, man, like a really good run that we're going to go on for the next five or ten years. This is great. Even if he doesn't win right now, who really cares? Because we know he's going to win in the future going forward. Whereas now it does kind of leave this weird taste in your mouth of like,

yeah, he won the Masters and that's incredible. But like, we argued that he would definitely win that again anyway. So now where are we left with if he's like not even, he hasn't even shown up for anything since the Masters. So it is, it's kind of an interesting question. Obviously, winning the Masters is more important than everything.

So it's, I don't know, I get what he's saying, definitely. And the point is, like, at this point last year, I think we felt better about Tigers. For sure. And we do right now. For sure. But he also won the fucking Masters. Sam says, and I put this in because we love Australians. We have a big Aussie following.

He says, I'm an Aussie who lives in India. Parantheses, Barstool is banned in India, but I listened to you guys, which I thought was funny. I'm going to be in NYC in early August, want some suggestions to make it a great trip. What tips do you guys have for someone playing Bethpage for the only time in their life? Do I get a caddy? Which course do I try for if I can't get on the black?

The other course is nearby worth playing as well. Any help is appreciated. Frankie, this is obviously your home course and all that. Love it. I think, isn't Bethpage Black a situation where if you want it bad enough, you will get on? Can't you just get in line? Yes.

You can get in line. And also, if you get there super early, if you don't want to do like the 3 a.m. 4 a.m. thing, which is like sometimes it's like folklore. Like people like you don't need to do it that much. Like it's usually like when it opens. Like the last week it's about to close before like a major or like a huge tournament. You can show up. I used to show up with a buddy at like 9 a.m. and we would just go inside and look at like the at the time slot and you'd see it like a tea time for like 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Like almost all the time. There's always something within like a 12, like a 12, like a, a, like a,

like a 10-hour radius where you're going to get on. I mean, for me, at least. I mean, do you think it's different because they just hosted a major? The demand's going to be higher? Yeah, I think this year is going to be a little bit tougher. But, I mean, I know a buddy that just went out the other day and he just showed up and played like two days ago. Yeah, I guess like what I would try to give if you're from fucking Australia and you'll never get this chance ever again. I would say, like, dude, make sure you're out there at 4 a.m. because who gives a fuck?

Yeah. Go to bed at 10 the night before. Get there at 4. Make sure you get on the golf course. If you get a 3 p.m.T. time, you go back to bed. and make sure you get on. My experience of the Bethpage Black is if I don't get on that day, I just play the red or the green,

and then I go home because I'm, like, down the block. And I can just do it next week and try again. Or I can, like, whatever. But if you're coming from fucking Australia or India, yeah, I mean, I would do everything I can to get on that golf course. There will be a higher demand, I would assume, especially. So what does that entail? Doing everything you can.

Like, you get in a car, you drive in? Like, how does the process? I don't do the over-the-night thing. I've never done it. I've never done it once. So I believe you, I believe they have an actual. line, right? Like you get in a car, you get in your car, you drive in. They, there's like signs that

tell you where to go. There's actual like, there's actual paint on the ground for spots. And I think you just get in that line. You can sleep in your car. But I think people get there, you know, like you said, like four or five in the morning, maybe. I think the thing opens at six or seven. You walk in there. You pick your tea time from whatever's available. And then you can do whatever the hell you want the rest of the day until your tea time. I believe that's how it works. So that's what I would do. I wonder if it's open. It does that every day. I'm assuming. Yeah, I don't know. The red course is awesome. I know that.

So if you can't, you know, that's kind of the other one. But I think if you want it bad enough, you can just get on the black, which is the exact same thing for the old course in San Andreas. If you want it bad enough, you can just get on the course. You just got to get up early enough. You got to want it more than the other people want it. And if you do, you will get on the golf course. Andrews said, am I that guy that just gets way too excited for the open or thinks

with all the history, especially when it's at places like San Andrews, that it's the best major and most enjoyable to watch with all the side bits and facts. am I that American that roots for Canada during the hockey and the Winter Olympics? No, I think the open, I think pure golf standpoint, the Open championship is the most fun golf tournament to watch. Yeah, I agree with that. I love it.

I mean, also, I love the fact that it's just in the morning, too. You just wake up with it, you have the rest of the day. But watching it and then seeing the weather coming on Sunday, like you really don't get that in many other places. So, yeah, I don't think he's wrong about this. I think for me it's a debate between the Masters and the Open every year for my favorite golf tournaments to watch. Yeah, the reason I would say, you know, the master's probably my favorite, but I would say from a pure golf standpoint, it's the best tournament to watch. What I mean by that is like actual golf shots. Like when they show them hitting a golf shot, it's just more interesting because anything could happen. Like even their tee shots are fascinating because they, you know, they pan to the ball lands in the fairway in the master's or even any other tournament. When the ball lands in the fairway, you know it's just going to end up in the fairway. If you're watching the fucking British Open, this ball lands in the fairway and you're thinking like, what the fuck's to the right of the camera here as it pans to the right? Like that could be, it could go anywhere.

and then it just like caroms into a bunker and you're like that guy's fucked you have no clue and it's the same thing on the approach shots like they'll land one 20 yards short of the green you're thinking like was that a good shot and then it bounces it like goes up near the fescue catches a hill rolls back into the middle of the green you're like ohly shit so if i think from a pure golf standpoint there's just nothing like that you don't get that all year long yeah for i guess as a viewer though i i i don't know i love what you just said and i think that's cool but there's not i for an actual viewing standpoint if you're going to put one thing on tv i can't pick anything other than the Masters. I don't know. I just can't. The green, like, yeah, it's cool to watch a guy, like, roll a ball up the hill and have it come back, but, like, the way the Masters looks is, I could just look at Amen Corner, and there doesn't have to be any golfers. I can just watch that on a screen, and that's better than anything.

The repeat factor, the Master makes it so enjoyable, too, because you just know every hole. Where the shots are going to go, you know, where the putts have to go, and then when they don't do it's even. Yes. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. I think it's, I think the back nine at Augusta on Sunday is,

leaps and bounds better than any other experience you're going to get watching golf. But I do think like when I turn the TV on you know, on a random Friday morning I could watch Zach Johnson play golf and hit shots and be

fascinated. There's a guy who pulled that name right out of the air. There's a guy just a random name. There's a guy hammering outside the studio right now fixing up the Barstall office and that is more enjoyable than watching Zach Johnson play golf. That's just incorrect. You're wrong about it. I feel like my head's getting banged by hammered. He's also won both the tournaments we're talking about just in case you forgot.

See, I would say like me watching Zach Johnson play like the seventh hole at Augusta isn't necessarily going to do it for me, but me watching Zach Johnson play like any hole at some British Open course is going to be fascinating because it just it feels like more options could happen. And it's just generally more interesting. So when you multiply that over an entire tournament, I kind of get what he's saying. And I think that the Open championship presents something that we just don't get any other time in the year unless you really work for it and watch like the Irish Open or the Scottish Open or whatever. So I think that's a good point. Brooke from Minnesota, simple one says for Frankie,

would you rather get a birdie in front of the boss man on the whole of your choice or get rid of the butter knives forever? Stumped. That's a tough one, man. That is a tough one. Imagine drilling one. So would it be like a par three? Would I be on like a whole of your choice?

All of my choice. It's not our choice. It's your choice. You get to choose it. Is that hammering helping? The hammering's not good. I imagine going to Augusta and just drilling a birdie in front of Tiger

Well, because in theory, if you make a birdie at a hole in Augusta in front of Tiger, you're playing around a golf. That's what I mean? That would be a huge opportunity. Yeah. But or you just never get the butter knives ever again. You're just cured. And he's like, good hole, Frank. And he says that?

I don't know if he says it. He might. Trench has made that out. He might. So we're playing inside. I feel like I'm, like, kind of taking liberties with the hypothetical, because I'm saying that, like, if I play Augusta, Tigers with me the whole time, I feel like this means, like, all right, tigers playing in the group behind me. I show up to, like, 12 or something at Augusta National, and, like, Tiger Woods, like, is now behind me and standing on the T-box. And it's like, all right, like, go ahead, Frank.

And I'm like, holy fuck, like, I have to, like, do something here. And I drill one onto the green and, like, tap in Bertie. And he, like, goes behind me. and he gives me like a head nod. And he's like, I saw that. Like, is that better than like... That would be sick. But now my other thing is like, maybe I never see him again.

And like, what did that do? I'm just another guy that made a birdie in front of him. Yeah. At the end of the day, that's exactly. Or is he with me, like watching me like, you're not going to make this. I have like a 25 footer and I drain a put. And he's like, holy fuck. We give a fistbound.

We hug. You're a best friend. Now you're in a dream. Now you're legit in a drink. We hug. We exchange numbers. We go back. We go to the Tiger Woods restaurant in Florida.

We eat dinner. we go back, we watch military movies. You move in with him at some point. I move in with him. I fix his back. I massage him and all that stuff. Then, yeah, I'm choosing that. If not, then I'm going to love...

So it's butternoughts. I would love to have buttery wedges, like just fucking tasty little, tasty little two inch, two inch from the green. Just nice, quick little fucking wedges. Oh, man. Like, yo, when they show that zoom in shot on professional golfers where they have like half a foot to land the ball and they just drain it, I think Kisner did it at, what was it like one of the last tournaments? We got tweeted about it all the time. He just drained one.

He had like literally a foot to land it. That's my dream. My favorite thing is when they show like the side view of it. And when the wedge is like crisp the ball and you see the backspin just instantly start, you're just like, oh my God. That's the way the ball and the club were created. Yes. That's how they were created for. That was the intention when they first drew these things up.

Yeah. It's really cool. And watching them do it at the British Open because it skids a little longer. and it's like a couple more hops because of how firm it is and then it catches. Oh shit. How does that happen?

The unknown of the British Open is like I think what you were alluding to earlier because you just don't know because like a master's you know one hop stop and it kind of like rips back there like out of a bunker you see it and you're like is that thing going to stop? Is that thing going to stop? And then it does or doesn't it rips by.

Yeah, it makes it super extreme. Watching those guys just use their wedges really is something spectacular. They just they're just like you said they do it exactly how they're supposed to.