Fore Play - How We Produced The Internet Invitational
Episode Date: October 29, 2026Episode 1 of the Internet Invitational is taking the internet by storm. Today, we’re joined by the man behind the edit, Brendan Jones, who takes us behind the scenes of YouTube golf’s biggest even...t. B Jones breaks down his step-by-step editing process, how he navigates storytelling with 64 golfers in the field, and what it takes to bring an event of this scale to lifeYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Big show today. The Internet Advitational is off and running, and we have secured a very big guest.
He is the brains and the operational man behind the entire editorial process and production process of the Internet Vatational.
Brendan Jones, our very own super producer, is on.
And he does a phenomenal job.
Takes an hour out of his time right now, which he doesn't really have, to comb through what it really takes to put this thing on, which is fascinating.
I love that world, hearing about that world.
So we kind of go through episode one and our takes and everything.
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Shout to Brendan Jones, like you said.
He's the straw that stirs the drink.
I mean, at the end of the day,
we just hand him off a bunch of ones and zeros on a computer.
It's just a bunch of data.
It's clips.
And sure, there's moments where anyone could just,
like, pull out one moment and throw it on social media.
I'm sure it would be good.
It's got a bunch of big YouTube golf.
celebrities and all of that in there.
But to tell the story, man, to get all that data
dropped onto a terabyte of foot or whatever it is,
and you just have to tell that story is not easy.
So hearing from the man himself,
really interesting.
Hopefully people like that inside baseball talk.
And if not,
we'll get back to a regular show,
I'm sure,
in like two months when the Internet invitation was over.
I think they're going to love it because B.
Jones is the greatest.
And he's fascinating.
He's got good stuff to talk about.
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I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot.
A lot of his name's Frankie Burrilli.
So the guys actually gave him a nickname
of Butter Nives because he always
nice to the cross the green.
100. Now you've got to break 90.
We appreciate what you guys do for golf.
It's been really cool. Thank you.
You're making it cool. We appreciate it.
I was like, hey, Phil, you own me fucking 2999.
And he grabs 100.
He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 at these yesterday.
He goes, take 100 and go, fuck yourself.
What?
What are you guys fishing?
It's ain't a hobby.
Foreplay, presented by Barstool Sports.
We are off to a hot start with the internet invitational.
We have a lot to break down and discuss.
course from that I believe we are over six million views in 48 hours at the time of this recording
social clips going all over the place Kevin Kisner called me yesterday it was just like what in
the fuck is the deal with this event every time I look at my social handles I've got hundreds of
notifications he didn't know what to call those things he said I've got just hundreds of those
little things you know I'm talking about it's like yeah those are called notifications so
uh noties for some of the kids as they call them uh but
hell of an operation, five-hour first episode, getting in the draft, getting in just the entire
everybody entering Jersey, Jerry, trying to make side deals before the thing even really begins,
closest to the pin, all of a sudden for five grand, and then you got to get in just a ton of
nine-hole matches with all of the drama. It ends up being a five-hour episode. I believe
the average runtime is around or a little over an hour, which is an insane number.
But great start.
We got a lot of stuff to break down.
And I think we're trying to book Brendan Jones, producer Brendan Jones for the show,
proving to be a little bit difficult.
But what a start, fellas.
What a start.
Amazing.
There was a lot of nervous energy.
I feel like going into the second one because that second act is a tough one to pull off.
A lot of people have expectations.
A lot of people are going to compare.
It's going to be just, you know, people know what the product is.
And the first one was such a success.
Brendan and the whole entire team crushed it to a level that was like, you know,
you couldn't even, incomprehensible is the word I'm looking for.
It's just really was like to have that many golfers at that point.
That was the first time anyone ever did anything like that for a YouTube video.
You know, that's basically, you know, half a PGA tour field or whatever you want to call it,
of all these different microphones and cameras and everything and trying to tell that story,
which is, yeah, it was an amazing feat.
So to be able to do that again with more players now, 64, adds such a bigger wrinkle for them in the editing side.
You have so many more matches that you have to show.
And I thought personally, not just glazing our own guys, but I thought they did a better job this year than last year.
And that's not me trying to sell you guys on watching this series.
It's, I genuinely thought that the way that it flowed, I thought the introduction of like a shot happening on whole two that was meaningful and drama filled.
and then showing in the picture and picture,
just someone getting off the T on whole one,
just to at least you knew now,
like where everyone was on the golf course.
I don't know his name.
When Brendan comes on the show,
he'll give him his flowers,
but there's a guy that made all the graphics for.
Did you guys see the one where it,
like, flies in from a satellite view
and goes through the clouds and shows someone on whole one
and jumps over to whole nine.
That part for me,
like you genuinely get a feel for what the golf course even looks like now.
Now you're like at Ozark National.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know the whereabouts of Whole One compared to Whole Seven.
So I thought that was great.
And yeah, my last note would be Kevin Kisner.
The introduction of Kevin Kisner was, it's all the rage right now.
People love the fact that Kiz is just there talking shit and being wowed by the Duke and being
wowed by Lu Kuan and just like getting an introduction to this whole entire world of,
you know, Kiz plays golf for a living.
This is what he did.
This is what he did his whole entire life is tried to play the highest level of golf that he possibly could.
He reached it.
He reached the best golf in the world.
And, like, to see, I mean, you can speak better than me just kind of recapping it for you,
but I can't even imagine what it must feel like watching what the world of golf has turned
into.
Like, that's the peak of our world of golf now.
So, like, what were your thoughts initially?
Man, I've got a bunch.
I, uh, I traveled today to West Palm Beach and, uh, got to watch the whole first episode.
Just because internet on airplanes is actually good now.
You can just stream the whole thing and in between all the different.
things of traveling. I watched the entire five hours. But I also, like to your point about the
players, I thought the best part, I asked you all a bunch of times leading up to it, like, what the
hell are we doing? Where are we going? What do y'all want me to do? And y'all would not give me
anything. You basically just said, show up to Big Cedar Lodge on Monday and we'll just tell you what to
do. You didn't even tell me what to bring or anything. And I was like, do I need clubs? And you said,
No. So that was, that was so cool because literally when I showed up at that welcome party,
I maybe knew 10 people there of all 64 players. And so whenever we got going in this process
in the next morning and I walked out on the range and I started looking at swings and watching
what was going on. It was like, man, this shit's all over the place. There's people from all
levels. We got, you know, Wesley Bryan all the way to, I never saw the Duke because he was later on in
the in the tee off.
So I came back to the first tee to watch his swing because Dave told me I had to or
Big Cat or somebody.
So to see that compared to what I watched Luke Kwan do off the first tee, I'm like,
what is going on exactly out here?
Exactly what are we trying to accomplish?
But to watch it all come together in that first episode was incredible to our editing
team since I'm in the business, trying to keep things in chronological.
order, even at a live show with tape and live shots.
This was all tape, obviously.
But just to have a production team that can keep it in chronological order that it
continues to make sense.
Like, I was very scrutinous on that in the first episode watching.
And the entire production made sense.
It was like, all right, well, they just finished on eight.
No wonder the other group's on seven because they showed them tee off while they were
on two.
That's so easy to screw up, especially on tape shots.
We do it on live air all the time.
So I was super impressed with that.
watching it from the first T-shots until the last match finished.
It just went seamless.
I love the same graphic you talking about where it showed the map of the course
and it would be on nine and then it would shoot back to one.
And then double boxes.
I get more comments on NBC from people saying double boxes.
Why don't you just show the whole show in double boxes?
And they, damn, they almost did.
I mean, half the show of golf was double box,
which is not an easy thing to pull off if anybody knows the production.
production side and to get the timing right, especially trying to keep the chronological order.
So hats off to the production team.
And you just got, it's just amazing how they clip and make it look, I mean, make the right
things work for drama.
I just think that's an amazing job.
Because if I'm being honest, the first day, if you had told me that first match, I was like,
well, nothing even happened.
And then I go back and it's like, cart bath relief.
And I don't even really remember that being a big deal.
But you go back and watch it.
I was like, damn, it was kind of a big deal.
you know and then i'd forgotten uh i'd forgotten that roger uh steel had told me to you should have
heard what bobby ray and short game king just did on that last tea and uh to go back and watch
it happen in in what our tape production i was damn that got a little heated for a minute i wish
i was on that tea with them so hats off to everyone i thought it was so impressive how they made
the entire thing make sense in chronological order of how it actually went down it was no
being there for the first time when I watched it was no like, oh, they just did that for drama,
or they just filled that in to try to make it a better show.
It was just like, hey, this is what happened.
This is the order in which it happened.
We're going to try to show it as close as possible and make and fill it in in the time and
correct.
So no one of the damn things, five hours.
We were out there for five hours in that first session.
So it made perfect sense to me.
Big Cedar said that was not a road, by the way.
So you're justified.
Did you all ask?
They just commented on the video.
They're like, update.
Definitely not a road.
I love Dave's comment that I didn't remember when he goes,
why would they have two cart paths that close together?
That'd just be stupid.
You're like they wouldn't.
Kids also saying when they're trying to decide what to do and like what the rules are,
kids goes, well, I wouldn't hit it over here anyway,
so I don't really know what to do.
I asked them specifically.
I said so, and I put a ball in between two huge rocks and I go,
if your ball was here in a PJ tour event,
you would have to hit this.
And he goes, I wouldn't have hit it there in the first place.
Shut me up.
In reality, like, what would you do?
like that ball where I put that like would you just take it unplayable there or like because if you
moved the rock the ball would roll away right like so like what are you doing that well I just
I couldn't I don't recall how big the rock was but another thing that I was thinking about the whole
point was moot that I didn't even think of is like even if it was a cart path your relief still
in the high grass you don't get to go to the other side and I don't know why I didn't start with that
or maybe I didn't say it didn't come on the camera but I don't remember even remember saying that
until later on.
It's like, I don't even know why we're arguing.
You're still going to drop on that side if you get cart bath relief.
So the whole thing was stupid.
And then, but then you got, I mean, you had a decent chance at it on that shot.
Oh, yeah, it was fine.
You know what?
The nerves were at an all-time high coming off of last year's rules, discrepancies, and
situations.
So I just think everyone wanted to make sure they got it right.
And also it was the best match by far of that front line.
So, like, final, you know, final hole, Francis is holding me up by a string.
trying to keep us alive and like we just need to punch one out i think we were going to do everything
we can to make sure that we had a good shot at that which is just gamesmanship and also like
staying within the rules and the inter-evitational now is the most important thing of all time
plus y'all had both teams everyone that's already one or lost was all around me 40 people standing
around and then just dave and big cat just waiting to hear what i say and then filing on
i think big cat said should we drive a should we drive a card on this path to see if it's a car path
And that's the beauty of this whole thing.
And that's kind of what we're all speaking to with the editing side of it too,
but also just with all those guys there,
throwing all those people into all these different scenarios where kids obviously
knows what he's talking about.
Big Cat and Dave were there just to oversee and stir the pot and make funny comments.
It's the whole thing watching.
I watch the whole thing, whole five hours.
It's spectacular.
Watching it back, I'm like, this is, and we're a part of it.
And we're like very lucky to be.
And we work really hard at it.
But watching it back, you're just like, this thing is fucking awesome.
Yeah.
And it is a really funny element for us from our experience of when you're out there,
you worry that there's nothing happening.
Like if I'm in a match that's just, you know, like me and Grant,
we just got the wheels like beat off of us.
We just, and there was no real.
We had some funny chatter.
We're like, all right, let's try to make an issue.
But like, we just lost.
And then I just drove up.
And I followed eventually your guys match, Frankie.
And I loved in the video how like when you guys teed off,
there was Dave was doing the like,
who's the favorite here?
And everybody's answer was like,
this is a really close one actually.
This one is like as close as it gets.
And then sure enough,
when I said to you after this,
I think during lunch,
Frankie,
I was like,
I put my arm around.
I was just like,
what is wrong with you that you can't avoid this stuff?
For the last year,
we've talked about the internet motivational coming down to you and the shot.
And it's been its own thing.
And then here we are, I'm like, all these other matches that they happen in their own silo.
And sure, they get their light and shine during the production, but in real time, nothing.
And then all of a sudden, I roll up to like try to get my, my fingers on the scope of what's happening, what's taking shape, what's crystallizing here as this thing finishes.
And sure enough, there's my guy, Frankie Borelli, hitting shots with everybody around, Dave's around, Kiz's around, there's a rules and debate going on.
and it's you.
It's fucking you right in the middle of it.
I was just like,
what is wrong with this man?
Or what did you do that you can't help?
It has to come down to you every time when you,
I think don't want it to.
And I just,
I felt like you're on the other team and I felt for you being like,
hit the shots, Frankie.
Come on, man.
Like you couldn't help but feel that in that moment.
And that's what we talked about the last show of like,
no matter how the matches are set up and you might think there's a certain anchor match.
And this always happens at the Ryder Cup, kids.
I think I was hearing people talk about how, like,
it's actually always the fourth to last singles match
with the Ryder Cup comes down to or something like that.
You think when the matchups come out, like there's an anchor match, whatever,
that might be a three and two finish.
And the match before it might be a four and three finish.
And next to you know, it's like the fourth to last match,
no matter what it is, everyone is there.
And it just got so intense.
And it's to your point, kids, where I worried about it post as well,
being like, man, I hope something interesting happened out there
because in our match, it just wasn't that interesting.
And sure enough, all my group chats with all my golf buddies,
they're like, I'm two and a half hours in.
I got to watch the next two and a half next tomorrow night.
This is fucking electric.
I can't wait to watch the rest of it.
So it really is a testament to the production.
It's a fact of like you get that many 64 folks out there and matches.
Like, good shit is just going to happen.
The other thing, the element that really gets under your skin when you're out there
is the fact that the other players are like,
right there in the mix arguing on your match, right?
That doesn't happen in any other form of golf.
It doesn't happen in the Ryder Cup.
It doesn't happen in PGA tour events.
Like, you know, I actually really like the guy.
Micah Morris, though, is always right in your face when you're facing his team, like, making
rules decisions and, like, arguing and being like, what are you talking about?
Like, as you're talking, like, as I'm talking to kids, I have like Micah from three matches
before me right in my face being like, how could you possibly think that's the rule?
I'm like, what, what is happening right now?
Those are those moments where I feel like the whole world is watching me because I'm like,
maybe this is a simulation and my whole, you know,
everyone else is just a non-player,
non-playable character and this is just my story, right?
And you're all just like little pawns in my story because I'm looking around and
everyone's eyes are darting on me.
I'm like,
how is this happening happening again?
Why?
Why can't I just be that match that just like goes on without any stress that just like gets a point?
We go when we have lunch and it is what it is.
And right on cue,
our guy Brendan Jones,
B. Drones himself.
The super producer of the bar,
of the internet invitational,
is on the show.
Brennan Jones,
welcome to Foreplay Pot.
Wow.
First time,
long time.
First time of one time.
It wasn't,
he's just,
you know,
trying to get B drones on here.
Honestly,
I just kind of,
I was buried in my computer,
Rich and I saw it text me like 20 years.
It was like.
It's fair.
He asked you on the pot.
And then I saw Frankie's name pop up.
And I was like,
oh, shit.
How long ago was this?
Like the show Silicon Valley that he's plugged in.
You ever see you?
You guys ever watch that show?
Oh, yeah.
Was it plugged in?
Was that the word?
Oh, no, and even a social network.
Social network's a big one.
He's plugged in right now.
He's plugged in right now.
He grabs a computer and fucking signs.
That's what Brennan Jones is.
He's totally plugged in right now.
Yeah, dude.
Sometimes I'll start editing and then like next thing you know,
I'll look up.
It's been legitimately an hour and a half.
You're like, wow.
How many texts did I?
I'm looking at this.
You were talking a lot about, obviously, the production.
First of all, you know, kudos.
Unbelievable effort out of you.
Unbelievable that variety. Episode one was insane.
I just did a little interview with golf.com and he asked me about the production.
I was like, you really need to talk to Brendan Jones.
But I'll tell you, Jonesy, how many cameras and how many production humans were there?
Oh, there was a lot.
I think I added them up.
So there were two A and B cams per group.
and there were 32 groups out there, right?
Or there were 16 groups out there.
16.
That's 32 cameras there.
There were nine green cams, which is 41.
There was Kiz, Dave, Big Cat is 44.
There were three drones, 47.
and then every two-sum had a GoPro.
So back on 32.
32 on top of that.
Now I'm losing track.
You're like 80.
We're at 79.
Yeah.
And then there were two beauty cams.
81.
What's a beauty cam?
It's like the pretty show of the beauty shots.
B-roll.
Pretty cams, like side angle shots.
They woke up super early.
the morning and got like the sunrise a lot of the like stuff you see in teasers sure and then
i think that i think that might have been it there were i think 11 audio ops handling those you
had 64 players plus dave dan and big cat on the mics is 67 there's like 67 mic's all at once
81 cams were only all at once for 11 hours a day, by the way.
But some guys brought their own content guys, too.
Didn't you get those?
Yeah, they, well, they essentially worked for us those days.
Okay.
I didn't know if that was the case.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because I was saying you guys would utilize them, right,
as instead of just hiring either,
it could be barstool folks that don't usually film golf,
whatever.
It's like if the Brian Bros.
Brose have their guys and Buster Jack as their guys,
it's like you'd be crazy not to use them to film golf.
Yeah, I think that's part of the beauty of like the internet invitational
is that everybody that is in the content creation space
usually has a videographer that they work with.
And then I reach out to those people and I'm like,
hey, we're doing this tournament that is obviously YouTube golf,
like Super Bowl.
Do you want to be part of it?
And almost everybody says yes.
So I'd rather have videographers that know the space
and know the content and know what we're trying to do
rather than maybe like a seasoned veteran that works on,
you know,
all these Netflix productions that doesn't know YouTube golf, right?
Like,
I'd rather go to war with,
you know,
Jensen on Bob does sports than
some guy who's worked on a hard knock, right?
Right. Right.
So did you,
did you find this second time around easier than the first time
because you had like just a feel and you had laid groundwork the first time around?
Or was it just as hard the second time, but you kind of had an idea of what you were doing?
I was definitely just as hard.
It was nice to have an idea and a, and like a groundwork or a framework of what I was going to be getting myself into.
But the additional 16 guys adds a lot.
Like even just on the post production side of things, that's four more groups.
groups, that's four more groups of nine.
That's 36 more holes that you got to go through.
Like, you know, obviously not every match went to distance,
but that's a lot of content and a lot of stories that could potentially exist in there.
So it definitely took more time on the post-production side of things for the extra 16.
Like, yeah, if it was 12, if it was 48 again and there were just 12 groups out there,
I would have felt really, really good going in.
but bobbing and weaving through all those groups this year was way more difficult and i'm still
doing it not i mean that that that part of it's done for the episode that came out today um but yeah
we're still we're still doing it's hard to pick anyone out over other people so i don't want to
really do that kyle timbs will probably take like a machete to my neck if i don't call him out
number one and obviously the whole entire crew Jared our whole squad is obviously very very uh involved
in this i see ryan rich is doing something
And I'm assuming that's for the episode that's coming out.
I mean, everyone's got a little hand on it.
So it's amazing.
But I do want to highlight, because I mentioned it before,
who's the guy, what's his name,
who made that graphic that goes through the clouds
and shows whole one,
a whole, whole like nine or whatever.
I thought that was so well done.
Yeah, his name's Will Sparks.
He's one of the graphics designers.
Will he'll Sparks.
Yeah, motion graphic designers at Barstool Sports.
Dude, Barstool's post-production theme is premium of the crop.
Bar none, best of the business.
Like, you cannot get better.
than the group that we have here,
especially in the content space.
I'll put them up against anybody in the world
to do anything when it comes to editing
and post-production. But for this,
they all know how to edit.
They all know what good video is.
They all know what good content is.
They all work really hard.
They're great to work with.
They're super coachable.
The whole post-production department
is the only people,
like the Barstall post-production department
is the only people that I'd want to do this with.
Like, I would never want someone to come in and be like,
hey, we have these editors
from Netflix or Amazon or whatever,
and they've done this, that, and the other thing,
it's like, if I can't do this with this team,
then I don't want to do it.
Pretty high praise right there,
Drones.
Yeah.
They're the best, I'm telling you.
I'm like, it's,
they're so good at the reality portion of it,
but then you have 10 different guys cutting down matches.
and you just kind of explain to them how the YouTube golf space works
and what we need to see and why we're hanging on to certain shots
and what's like needing to be included in terms of like pre-shot routine and information
and they just pick it up.
And then, you know, they hand you a pretty good product.
And then from there, we're able to do our jobs a little bit more efficiently.
But do, they're the best.
When it comes to like all of the graphics,
do you guys then kind of edit everything to what we want it to be
and then just send them notes on what graphics you kind of require or want?
And how does that work?
So the upper right graphic we put on the matches really early on
because that's very specific to just the match.
So you could put the, you know, who's playing who, one up, one down,
what shot it is for what hole.
You could put that on really early.
You could put that on in like the first stages just because it's like,
that's never going to change.
Like that's very specific to that match.
It's that lower right, like, scoreboard that a lot of people gravitate towards.
That takes a lot of time.
And that actually is made, obviously, by the Barstool Graphics Department,
but that's one that I have to manually take care of throughout the entire five-hour video.
Same with Kyle Tim's who did the second one.
And that's probably the toughest one to, like, actually keep up with.
Because you're controlling, like, who sees what, when.
and you're holding certain groups up on the scoreboard when in in real time.
Yeah.
And in real time, they've obviously played a couple holes, right?
And I think people appreciate that.
I was telling Frankie that.
Like, I could show the sixth hole of a match and then want to catch people up
and show two or three more real-time holes of other groups.
But on the scoreboard in the lower right,
I'm still going to say that that group is only through six.
because I do know that eventually I want to go back to seven.
When in reality, like,
Welcome to my life.
Yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
But in reality, like, they've obviously played that hole.
I think that's like the beauty of post-production,
whereas live TV, it's a lot tougher.
Like you do need to like kind of race back to that hole.
You can't go, you can't take 20 minutes off and be like,
all right, now we're going to go to seven and watch the whole hole again.
It's like, nah, dude, that's what happens.
That's what happens and people get upset.
They go on apps and see, like,
Yeah, they played that hole already, dude.
Yeah, but live TV is harder in that aspect, but also easier in the fact that it's just what's happening in the world.
And like, you could have something automatically saying that that person's now on the seventh hole, eighth hole, ninth hole with what, you know what I'm saying.
And the hard part for live TV is jumping back and forth and getting the content within that.
But like, the world is moving forward in live TV.
And your, in your sense, there's so many little things that you have to keep track of because you are manipulating time.
So you know how quickly it could get away from you that if like Kyle Tim's is editing episode two and just in that bottom lower corner he has that they're on whole seven and then on the next slide like the next group goes through and all of a sudden like that stays at seven but they're playing at eight and like you have to be you know time is going how you push it.
It's hard to explain.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you guys can fuck that up so easily because as you move things along, you have to keep the whole entire scoreboard moving along with what you're doing.
Not with what reality is doing.
That's so much harder in my eyes.
I said that to you on the phone.
I'm like,
I don't know how you guys are keeping track
that me and Francis are still only through seven holes,
even though people behind us are now on hole six.
That's not how it was in real life,
but it makes sense for the video
because you need to see it all happen together
because some matches are ending on hole six.
Ours is ending on whole nine.
Yeah, and there's like certain matches that obviously end earlier,
like they'll end on whatever.
Riggs. Yeah, like that. So you have to show.
Great example. And then Riggs and then Riggs will go ahead and go watch his team on whatever
whole. So like, I have to show Riggs finishing his match if I want to in the content.
Right. Right. Right. So it's like,
why's this fucking guy watching this match if he's still playing a match? Hmm. Yeah. So you,
you really got to take into account what you've seen and what you're about to see. So like,
there are times where I would love to just stick with a group and be like this group fucking rules like let's just let's stay with them for a little while but then all of a sudden next thing you know you're on the eighth hole and more people have caught up and they're watching and they're into the atmosphere and you're like wait a minute like how did that person even get here it's like I have to leave that group on seven to go show you why you are seeing rigs cheering on you know the rest of his team right and yeah like
I understand if people are like, hey, I want, you know, I want to stay with this group, like the drama's here, but it's like, you know, it's all going to work out for a reason.
I watched the entire episode traveling today, and I gave you a big shout out on this exact topic because I was scrutinizing the chronological order and the leaderboards and the match leaderboards pretty sternly the whole way down here because I can just catch it quickly in my brain because that's what I see all day long.
NBC and it was unbelievable how well y'all nailed that I couldn't find one screw up in that entire
five hours where I was like oh we missed that one it was unbelievable so my hat's off to you I know
how hard that is and I know how hard it is on live TV I don't really know how we judge which
one's harder but I know they both are freaking hard as hell possible I also this is coming from a group
too like uh you guys nailed the fact that it said seven when you're on eight I thought that's
something you guys would mess up in a heartbeat. This is also the same group that hadn't squared
our bogeys on hater matches until two weeks ago. So I'm like, oh my God, they really figured out
everything for the for the Super Bowl. This is massive. Like, that's a little detail that goes a long
way. Like, you have to make sure that that's what you're through. Like, that's something that I would
slip up for sure. Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean, that we did that one we did last year. So I'm, I'm
happy that we carried over. But it's, dude, it's, it's insane, like, thinking that you're controlling
the narrative of the match and like at any moment you know if you go to the wrong place or slip up
it's like you just spoiled something everything that sucks that's yeah you're telling the story like
it's literally in your hands to tell the story you know and that yeah right like no matter what
actually happened it's now in your hands to actually tell the story that's huge it's everything
and people love it dude i know there's been a lot of conversation about the five-hour episode
but like when we'll do a whatever other type of video that ForPlay does throughout the year,
it's like, I know Brendan watches it down and keeps watching it just to like make sure that like
everything flows in the right way.
I don't know how you even had the time to do that with a five hour episode.
Like it's one thing with an hour long episode of like a scramble match or a whatever,
but for you to like have all right, we've whittled this thing down and I hope that it's perfect.
And I'm going to watch it to make sure that it's perfect.
I now have five hours in front of me to make sure that's the case.
Yeah, and it's never just like a five hour straight.
Usually you find something.
So you like, you stop, make a change and then you continue to watch again.
And then you're like, all right, I need to make another change here.
And next thing you know, it's been like eight hours and like your watch down five hour video time.
Yeah.
It's long.
Right.
I, you know, I think about that, right?
Like, if I'm going to prove read an email, like that might take 20 seconds or something.
And you're like, I just, you're going to like, all right, I'm going to prove read.
What's this episode look like?
Five hour commitment.
It's fucking outrageous.
Yeah, it's like a few days.
It's like a few day commitment.
And then what good.
What point were you happy that it was done?
Oh, man.
I mean, I still am staring down the barrel of five more.
Right.
I'm not like, sorry, not like, not happy, like satisfied with the first episode,
this thing is done.
Was that an hour before we posted?
Was that two days before we posted?
Oh, man.
And I was probably the morning of when I knew, because there's a certain window where it's like, all right, I can't make any more changes.
Like, I know how long it's going to take to export this and then upload it to YouTube.
And if I make any more changes from here on out, the export is going to be cutting it too close to the upload time.
And then like, we're not going to hit the deadline.
So it's like, all right, we're done.
Like, this one's done.
You know?
And then that's nerve-wracking.
Morning of dude, what YouTube was down.
I take precautions.
Like there is,
I'll put a version up,
you know,
the night before and then if I need to make a change,
I'll make a change and then put the new version up and obviously hope that I've,
it goes well.
And that's like the one that everybody's left to watch.
But like,
you know,
it'll always get up.
And if YouTube really fucks us,
then it's like not our fault.
I don't know what we do.
You got five more to put out.
We did our part.
I was talking about this.
You got one to put out tomorrow morning.
Are you done as we're talking about this with episode two?
I'm actually in like the,
what Trent said. So I'm just kind of watching it down right now and I'll I'll wind up exporting it here in a little bit and I'm starting an upload later tonight.
Hours don't like totally exist these last like three weeks. It's kind of just like you yeah, it's, uh, you pretty much just take into account the hours before you need to like really upload it. So like how many hours left do I have before I need to press upload on at least the first one? And that's like probably nine. So.
I'm just going to use the next nine hours to make sure it's as good as it can be and
upload one and then make changes if I need to.
So the James at golfcom, he asked me this.
He's like, so the five hours, like walk me through why the episode was five hours.
And I said, well, that's just like how long it took to do that session.
And there's six sessions or six episodes.
So my question is, was there a number that we could have.
gotten to where you would have been like this has to be in two episodes um i don't think so like my
big i've had people say that to me i really nine hour episode we have a nine hour episode we have a
oh yeah nine would have been like there's weight there's probably yeah now would have been like
there's two sessions in that so like we should split it up but kids my question would be how long
are your windows when you do major championships like broadcast windows my longest is probably
like a seven hour run at once i mean but we have commercial
You got commercials too, I guess.
This is tricky waters.
We posted a clip to try and cancel me on our own account of me saying that this is basically the masters when I said that people sit down for five hours to watch the master.
Ryan Richen's laughing.
I said, you know, people sit down five hours to watch the masters.
They'll sit five hours down.
They'll sit down for five hours for anything.
And everyone's like, are you serious?
Are you serious?
They're old Dickie V on me.
Are you this guy serious?
Pretty sure.
Sunday at the President's Cup was 11 to 6.
Yeah, seven hours.
We sit down on the couch for long periods of time all the time.
Yeah, no, I mean, all I'm saying is that it's normal for golf tournaments to take this long on TV to develop.
Like, I don't, you know, you don't have to sit down for five hours and watch it, man.
Like, you could use multiple days and windows to watch it.
But all I'm saying is golf windows, golf coverage window.
Yeah, you're right in the sweet spot.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
Like this is a golf tournament.
And that's what we are putting out.
And that's the norm.
And Frankie said on the last episode,
but he was like,
would you've been happy with three?
If you're going to be happy with three,
let's make it five.
Like once you cross a certain threshold,
it's just,
it is what it is.
And I also said in last episode,
what you were just saying,
Brendan,
where it kind of sounds like
we're explaining to people how to watch a video,
but you can just watch it in chunks.
And it's like,
you're not obligated to why.
I don't want to do the whole thing again.
But yeah, like five hours is right in that sweet spot of a golf tournament.
So I have no problem with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I would say too, like once you reach a certain point, 90 minutes, two hours, like Frankie was saying probably, and we've had the conversation on the phone, it's like, man, once you watch something for two hours, you're in it.
Like, if you've watched for two hours, you're in it for a long time.
Like you're not just going to be like, well, fuck this.
I'm out.
I don't want to see what happens.
You would have skipped after like five or ten minutes.
So it's like, you know, you kind of committed yourself.
I don't know.
So it's like, yeah, once you've hit the three hour mark, it's like,
we just got to finish this and do the best job we can telling it.
It's also, it's funny, right?
Like, Frankie, all like this.
I started watching The Diplomat over the weekend.
Oh, yeah.
And a great show.
And like I remember distinctly looking and I didn't know anything about it.
Other than Frankie had mentioned it like once on the show a couple months ago.
And I looked and one thing I really excited about was
it said like four seasons.
And I was like,
fuck yes.
Like if that had said one season,
I would have been sad
and I would have already finished that pitch.
But now it's like the more,
I want more of it.
I'm happy that there's a lot of it.
So by that same logic,
it's like if you see an invitation on you're like,
all right,
I've got my time to lock in here,
five hours.
Come on.
Like that's better than one hour.
Right.
People act like they're still watching like,
that like mash is the biggest show on TV.
And they're like,
I can only watch a certain amount of,
TV and then I got to be done.
I don't know why I had that accent, but it's, we're living in a different time.
No, no, that was perfect.
That was MASH, dude.
That was MASH.
It's not MASH anymore.
It's, it's five hour YouTube golf videos that six million people are going to watch them
48 hours.
I have also, this year received probably more feedback from people being like, hey,
just finished the whole thing.
That was great or really looking forward to the second one.
The first, the first year, I feel like I didn't get a ton of that.
But this year, it's,
wild that I'm how many people are saying they legitimately finished it already and I'm like that's
awesome you know like crazy yeah awesome that is awesome and yeah I've got two questions for one point
and another question I don't know exactly how you made me look but I've gotten like 90% positive
comments on me on social media so you broke a world record on that we're going to put you
in the Guinness book world record and your editing skills that no matter what anyone did even if
they said the sun was pretty today they couldn't get 90% positive uh so I'm
pretty proud of that.
And second, have you seen all, how many episodes are there?
Seven?
Six.
Six.
Have you seen all six almost finished as of right now as the second episode comes out?
No, I'd say I'm pretty, I mean, I lived it, which is great.
Yeah, yeah.
But I just didn't know if you had like a rough cut, almost finished version of all six.
Oh, definitely.
That exists.
But in terms of my eyes, my eyes haven't seen a ton of five and six yet.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
I've seen a good amount of the rest, but, you know.
Yeah.
But it gets a little bit easier with five and six just because it obviously dwindles down.
It's way more focused.
Like there aren't as many players.
It becomes way more just straight up like YouTube golf matches, right?
Like it's not it's not like bobbing and weaving through 64 people and all these different.
Right.
These are in a vacuum YouTube golf videos and matches, right?
I'm not giving anything away or spoiling anything, but it gets a little bit easier in that regard.
It's like linear, right?
It's not like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Plus, if you watch the first episode, the first, like Frankie and Francis went off first, I think, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And then whoever was last was probably three and a half hours later, right?
The tee off time?
I think it was eight.
I think you guys were eight.
And then the last one, yeah, it was.
And 30 maybe?
Yeah.
Yeah, because when I was watching it through, I'm like, I don't even remember watching it.
I didn't even see some of the red and green tea off.
That's part of it, too, where it's like you, when you guys pop up into matches,
we have to be weary of what you guys have seen and what you're talking about.
Like I love, I think it's great.
Like throw everything out there.
Like talk about, you know, the matches that you've already seen and how it's playing out and talk about the scoreboard and all that.
But there are a ton of conversations of people coming off of greens and getting in their carts and being like, hey, so-and-so is up right now.
Like after three.
And it's like, well, I've only shown their first hole.
So I have to chop this conversation.
Whereas, like, there are also a lot of times.
And it's like one of my favorite parts about the whole editing process when somebody gets in their cart and they're like, hey, we really need, you know, rigs and Grant to come through here.
And then I'm able to just like transition to that match.
So I always like I'll never complain about people like divulging too much information out there and like kind of getting my heart rate up because we're going to spoil something in the episode.
I'd rather just have all that information and be able to use it when it happened.
but it happens a lot.
To your point, Dave and Big Cat are huge scoreboard watchers.
They talk about it.
Every time I rode up next to them, they're like, did you see Riggs just three down?
I was like, no, what are y'all?
How do you have keeping up on your phones?
I found out here.
I was talking about a different match.
Let's use a different parameter for different.
Dude, I would say that the secret sauce for us, and I texted this to you and Trent the other day was just all the non-golf stuff.
you guys absolutely now filming and editing all that the the walk up the whole entire draft
process that the way that you guys edited the beef tribute was absolutely incredible it was
perfect um because i i was interested to see how that was going to come out because obviously
we were there and it was super emotional i think you guys absolutely nailed it uh make sure everyone's
going on that foundation website and and you know pledging some money to that and making sure that
that that thing takes off the way it should because that's an amazing story talked about the last episode
which had to get that in uh yeah it's a little stuff like i think
that's what we've seen that there's a ceiling in youtube golf obviously we don't hit it very often
like you know the bob guys grant they're always hitting this like number that's like wow even
when bob got lebron on it was like there must be like a number of people that are interested in
youtube golf and you're going to see with this it gets to 10 million it's probably going to get
the 12 million i don't know what the number's going to be but it reaches a stratosphere that we
didn't think was possible for youtube golf and i think that's because of all the stuff that we're
able to show like that's why like my wife watches it and like her friends were all talking about it
you guys are really good at that and so like hopefully over the next couple episodes that's just
this is like me texting you like my ideas like just don't lose sight of that because that is what
is the difference in the internet invitational i just like it really does it people are invested in the
people as more than like the golf match you know what i'm saying like my wife's like oh my god i love
luquant like after the tent thing you know what i mean like yeah and she's sitting there watching
and she's rooting for him now the golf is the golf there's a ceiling to the golf like once once balls are in
the air that's like youtube golf people and
And the outside will still keep watching that.
But everything else, the way like Johnny Mansell was interacting with Coach Gruden,
like, who's going to pick who and like what teams are being picked.
And I know, you know, not to spoil anything, but like there's a lot more of that.
And I just, that's the sauce, dude.
That's like what other groups that are trying to do it.
They're not able to do.
Like, that's what you guys have in your brain.
You're able to showcase that.
And I'll be honest.
Go ahead, Greg.
Well, I want to hit you with the final line from James Colgan's article.
earlier in the week. The final line, I actually wrote this down to bring it up.
This is perfect for what you just said, Frankie.
As he says, he does all this stuff.
He puts it in the context of the golf world.
He does all of it.
And the final line, he goes, at the internet invitational, the stars aren't pros.
But for a few days in a strange corner of the internet, they might be something even better, humans is what he says.
And I just think that's like a perfect synopsis of what Frankie just said.
Yeah.
And I'll, I can't give enough credit to, like, the post-production team at Barstall who handles reality shows here.
Like, this obviously reaches a different demographic and way more people.
Like, Surviving Barstool does well, but it's not doing five plus million.
These editors who edit Surviving Barstall and all the other reality TV shows that we do here at Barstall are unbelievable at that stuff, Frankie.
Like, I do let them run with that aspect.
I obviously say, you know, here are some storylines.
good person to go to. Here are big time characters in the space and let's check out this,
that the other thing. But the product that I get like first draft wise is fucking awesome.
There are editors here that that wouldn't or there are editors editors here that can handle
legitimately everything. Like this kid, Kevin Zupi edited that draft and I was unbelievably
impressed with the first person. It was so good at the draft. It was so good. Dude. And then like
that extra three or four million.
of people that are tuning in.
I'm telling you that's got to be what's hooking people.
It really, like I was there and I was on the edge of my seat being like, wow, who's getting drafted?
How are they getting drafted?
What thoughts are getting put into it?
Who's interacting with who?
Who's mad at who from last year?
God.
It allows to do, it allows me to do my job, like, even better where it's like, I don't
have to worry about a lot of that stuff and I could just kind of enhance it, right?
like hey man this big john situation like he went you know he went straight to like the phone cameras
and i was like dude let's do this like three box thing where it's like him here the other two
are in gray and then like he goes gray and the next person starts talking it allows me to like
get a little bit more creative in terms of the storytelling because he fucking nails it you know on
on try one tim and this kid trent christiansen are so damn good at reality editing that like
it it impresses the hell out of me and i consider myself a decent reality
reality editor like I took over from post draft to I always I call it like the bridge like when
you wake up the next day that like hard knock scene the luquan tent shit like all the stuff on
the I mean I did the rest of the obviously like the golf and shit too but that bridge is like my
reality like I was saying though like wake up like the bird's chirping and then like you see the
tent and then you go to the range and then Dave sees the tent and then he sees Juan and then like
you go back to the range and then Marissa's like how are you not nervous and then you're on the
first tee like that's like my reality thing and I'm like oh like this is cool it's flowing dude
these kids are just as good if not better like Trent christ's unbelievable true
Kevin Zooty dude they they crush and they do the rest of the episodes too like that's kind
of their thing and then like I mean I'm a huge teaser guy I know you are too if this kid Mike
Delishtrito and this kid Chris Heimsoff what you guys have in store to like yeah the start of this
next one right bro bro the start of the next one should be incredible for what you're talking about
If my brain's thinking in the same chronological order that your brain's thinking of being there.
Going from like the teaser edits into the reality edits, like these these four kids that I just mentioned, dudes, man, I don't know.
This one kid just got married.
He got married and then he literally, he literally edited the teaser for episode one, getting married this week, coming back and doing the rest.
It's insane.
They're so unbelievably talented.
the intro to episode three,
which you guys obviously know the ending of episode two
and how great is all going to be,
the intro to episode three,
which is recapping everything,
is one of the best pieces of edited content
I've ever seen in my day.
I laughed at him.
He sent it to me the other day.
He said it to the other day.
I literally wrote back.
He slacked it to me.
I watched it.
I wrote, ha, ha, ha.
Fuck you, dude.
This is insane.
I thought I just don't
fuck you
bro I didn't even know
what's coming out today
so it's not
I don't want to give away
too much
it's out right now
but I would say
that episode two
is some of the greatest
golf ever recorded
in YouTube golf history
yeah the start of it
the start of it I think
will be amazing too
all of sure
all of it yeah
I just
I just think it's
when that happened
when all of it happened
I just felt like
when I was there
like holy shit
the stars are aligning
like I'm
may get vaulted ceilings one day because of this.
You know what I mean? Like I was like, when I saw that happening, I'm like, I think we made
it. I like, I really did. I was like, we made it. Like you, I like equated to like a director
sitting back and watching, you know, the actors like really nailing their role. I don't know,
like a James Cameron sitting back and being like, holy fucking shit, we're going to have it.
That's what the episode two was. I'm not kidding. I never seen anything like I was getting
the chills being there. Like being in it. I was, I was getting the chill.
Kyle. Kyle tells too really well from start to finish in the golf.
And I was in it the last couple of days just making sure it was what it needed to be.
But yeah, he was bobbing and weaving with the best of them to get to get two to where it needed to be.
And yeah, it's the hell is Ryan Richardson working on right now that he's not looking at this screen.
What do you got going on right now?
He's updating the lower rights for tomorrow's.
episode actually because I wanted a little bit of a change in them.
So he's just,
Richard,
if you fuck this up,
man,
while you're listening to us.
It is very funny.
Like,
we,
we spoke,
him and I spoke earlier this morning and he was just like,
man,
I just don't want to mess any of this up.
And I'm like,
you're not going to.
And he was just like,
he was like,
it's just such an important graphic.
And we literally,
we had like a five to 10 minute conversation on that lower right on this
podcast of just how important it is.
And he's not,
you're not really,
Yeah, he's not really messing with the scores or anything like that.
Richon, man, if you nail this, I'll get you all the triple tacos at restaurants that you are.
And all those three tacos, creams, whatever you like to eat, I'll get them all for you, man.
Yep, thanks.
Brendan, I will say the match I'm doing right now, part two, you probably got to be a little bit more diligent checking those,
just because, like, I'm listening to the pod doing this.
Oh, my God.
Which, yeah.
Wow.
I don't need to tell you this.
I'm going to say it anyway.
just keep it going.
You know, it's so like all of you, dude.
Yeah.
You guys, it's like, I love that you're calling people out and like giving them credit.
And like I know, I don't know how much work goes into it, but I do.
Like, I know that you're just busy and you're swamp.
Yeah.
And you guys, you know, you deserve the flowers.
You're going to keep getting them.
Just keep this shit rolling.
Because it's so good.
It's, it's, it's the stars aligned with the content, but then it also aligned with you and the editing team.
And like, everyone is just doing their job in such.
an incredible way that just like keep it rolling and this thing is just like if it's going to roll out
and it's it's so fucking good and i know you guys are going to keep going i just i felt like i had to say
that it's so fucking good keep it rolling rolling right to having another baby by the way this guy i know
he's got another baby coming out in like 30 days like this is just dude when i was 30 days away
from having life man when my wife was my life was upside down i'm like holy shit like this is
crazy i'm not to have the craziest thing in my life happened to me in like 30 days
There's a clock ticking down.
I can't even imagine having to hit all these deadlines, all these numbers, not sleeping.
My wife's about to pop.
Like, all this shit is crazy.
Hormones are flying out the freaking windows in the house.
It's insanity.
He also has another kid at home.
So, Brendan, you're fucking crushing it, man.
There's only one life to live and you're like making your impact on it in our little world right here.
You're doing a damn good job.
All of you, Ryan, Rich and Kyle Tim's the whole team.
Jared D'Libero.
I never know to say his name 10 years into this thing.
Everyone's unbelievable.
We have such a great team, man.
It's what makes it.
clock tick you want to talk about Rolexes and all these little forks that go back and forth in
between jewels you guys are the thing that makes it tick dude without you it's just a bunch of guys
playing golf for nothing that's like you have to tell the story that's you you are the person all
you every single but zupi every single guy it's unbelievable man delo hymn's gonna go through the list
man yeah they're dude they're just so talented like it's easy to work with talented people and
when talented people work hard it's fucking you could get
got some really cool.
You could get a lot done when talented people work hard.
They care.
They actually care about the product.
You know,
hard that is to find people,
dude.
We talk about this all time,
Brendan.
Like,
so I talk about this at Borrellys,
like waiters,
like there's sometimes they just like want to show up.
Like ever since after COVID,
everyone just wants to show up and just like,
like just get their pay,
their pay and go home.
You have to care about the product.
Care about the family name.
Care about what Barstall Sports represent.
Care about the internetational.
And you found this crew.
I'm getting all fucking worked up now.
It's sick, dude.
You know how hard that is this day and age?
Because people just collect them paychecks, right?
But, like, they actually care about what the product looks like.
That's fucking insane.
Dude.
Yeah.
I agree.
It's awesome to, it's awesome to have those people, you know, on your side.
I've worked with a lot of them for a long time now.
Obviously, they've been here for almost seven years.
But even some of them prior to that, like, Dello is a former MLB guy that I've known for, like,
fucking over a decade now.
You know, this kid Jake Loski, former MLB guy.
I've known these guys for a long time.
Yeah, so it's like I'm on the same page as them.
Cool, you're still on this?
Yeah, Josh is like he's like a supervising producer.
So I send him pretty much everything I do.
And he'll catch things here and there.
He watches everything down.
Legit.
And he'll, and he'll, is it, uh, give back to?
Is it you guys who decides, uh, what to send for social clips?
Or is that someone else?
We send the episode to,
the social team and I try to let them have as much freedom as they want because it's their job.
Like they know what's good and what's not when it comes to social content.
There are some things that I ask to stay away from because at a context,
it could be misconstrued or bad.
But I think they've done a good job so far.
Yeah.
I mean, they're working hard too, man.
Like you guys were saying, like it takes five hours to watch this whole thing down.
So it's like they do set aside the time no matter what time we send them the episode to be like,
all right, you know, I need to dive in and make notes on what, you know, I need to
to get flipped together or whatnot.
But yeah, kids, I also never just like, we just had you chiming in, like, throughout the
entire episode with just, like, hilarious one-liners.
And I think more people will see that as, you know, it kind of just unfolds.
Like, you're obviously a rules official.
You kind of, you know, bend the need of Dave whenever he, you know, has an overruling of you,
but he doesn't really seem to mess with you too much.
It seems like now after the first episode, but it's just, yeah,
It's very funny to just have you have you there just as somebody who's very willing to let it fly.
Yeah, I liked even when you would throw my one-liners in when I wasn't on camera, that was pretty hilarious.
I just hear my redneck voice in the background saying something super smart ass after you showed me four or five times.
It was like, all right, we know that redneck voice.
You know what he's doing.
Right.
It was perfect, man.
I loved it.
Yeah.
So good.
Amazing.
just amazing.
Did we, I know we were going to,
we were going to talk, I put this on my list to talk about,
but I'm not sure how much it affected you guys,
but we decided like hours before the event started
to completely kind of change the way we were going to do captains.
And I know like people ended up really liking that.
I've talked to a few people that liked the way we did it
because we ended up doing three, I think,
categories of captains that people could choose from.
And, you know, our reasoning for that was that simply we didn't want to imbalance teams skill-wise because we're we're really going to be as democratic as possible and just be like whoever top four get the most votes are going to be the four captains.
But then we thought if there's me and a Wesley Brian and Frankie and then, yeah, or, you know, whatever those four could be that like one team right out of the gate is just.
their number one draft pick is like a number 10 draft pick where the hell it might be.
So we ended up coming up with the four categories, trying to keep everybody simple.
That people might not realize like we for months were like,
we're just going to do it democratically.
And then I don't know, we finally solidified the like groups and the idea of it an hour
before the event started.
Did that like throw you guys for a loop at all?
Oh, not really on our side.
As long as there were four categories that were picked.
I mean, it was always going to be the same.
process, right?
Like either they were going to go up there and write down, you know, four names and then we were
going to tally him up or they were going to go up there and write down like a group.
So that like didn't throw us off too too much.
I honestly just, I agreed with the way that we did it, obviously.
I suppose Jett a little bit as like the texts were flying in the group chat.
Like, hey, you know, what do you think of this?
And he was like, it makes the most sense.
It's you just, to your point, like, you just don't want to have two plus handicap high
caliber players and then have anybody less than that.
be a captain that would have went in like a mid round like you're just obviously starting off on the
wrong play yeah and yeah i think i think the way that it shook out was the best way that we could
have done it and i think the draft order matters as much as you know anything like getting that
getting that turn pick seems to be like really oh the four to five going yeah draft really has people
going. I still wish group four would have won the draft because that would have been so funny.
Jersey Jerry, the Duke.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a good part in the draft too where like Bob and Big Cat were talking
just being like, yo, they get, if they get nominated, like, who knows what these teams are
going to be. Incredible. The thing is too, like you essentially, you make them captains, but then
like they pick one person and then like everybody hit in and it's just like, hey, you know, let's not
ruin our chances.
right like if you're jersey jerry in that you know and you end up drafting like ryan ruffles
you're not going to stand there and have ryan ruffles be like hey this is who we need to take
next and be like no i don't think like maybe true i don't know goes rogue but yeah i think we did
it the best way that that we could for sure yeah yeah wow incredible b drones it's unreal
you got to get back to watching this thing because there's really not that much time like this thing's
coming out in less than 24 hours.
Yeah.
Yeah, like I have to count down the hours from 1pm.
Like, all right, it takes this long to upload, this long to export.
Yeah.
Now that 26 terabytes of data, was that the whole thing or was that each round?
Each day.
No, that's the whole.
Wow.
Yeah, it's a lot.
It is a lot.
You're rolling, you're rolling for like 11, 12 hours a day, like all those cameras.
Incredible.
Jesus.
Jesus.
I think four plate tracker pulled up.
up like what that data is.
It was like he did
you know the amount of text and it was like
from Earth to the moon a hundred times
or something. We'll play trackers
back by the way. I don't know if you guys saw that.
Yeah.
Is a law degree?
Something like that.
We did. We read his statement.
We read his statement on the show.
The Air and Invitational is 26
terabytes of data to wrap your head around that. It's the exact
equivalent of 8.7 billion
pages of text laid end to end to the moon
and back three times.
Wow.
that's too many
too many
but yeah
big shout out to the whole crew
Jared's cranking on episode three
so as soon as soon as I press fucking upload on
two I'm taking that
project from him and it's obviously in a great
spot so
is boys there so is that
that's essentially how it rocks right so Kyle
Tim's is like the you know more of like the
the producer kind of assigned to like
two and then Jared's assigned to three
Yep. Yeah, so one, everything gets...
We'll berate them.
Whenever any mistake I see, we just berate them,
those guys for that episode.
Probably be my fault because I take it over.
But, yeah, I do one,
I bobbing weave on one through the whole thing,
and then Kyle's doing two,
Jared's doing three,
me and Kyle will do four,
Jared will jump to five,
and then we'll all handle kind of six together.
But, you know, I do one,
and then Kyle gave me this,
tomorrow's episode a couple days ago and I jump in there and I just kind of fucking go to town
for like 12 hours straight just to make sure it all makes sense and is where it needs to be.
Export, upload, make sure it's all good for tomorrow.
And then after that's done, I'll take over Jared's.
Jared will move to five.
Kyle has already moved to four.
And then I'll continue to look and take mildly take them over, you know, two to four days.
out and make sure that it's up to the standard.
Fucking heroic, man.
Amazing.
Yeah, it's a lot.
Definitely a lot.
But shout out to the whole crew.
And yeah, to Frankie's point, it is cool.
I wanted to add to it.
It is cool to have, like, even my wife watch and be like, ah, I like this guy,
don't like this guy.
And then all of a sudden I'll, like, peek into the room.
And she's just, like, fast-forwarding through the golf.
And I'm like, what are you doing?
She's like, I don't want to watch any golf.
I'm just going to, like, fast forward until this guy pops up on my screen.
again and like see what happens you know yeah so it definitely reaches like a different
demographic which is really cool and also definitely something to consider like when that
draft was happening um it's like i have to name font all these people and where they're from because
it's like yeah yeah majority of the people know who they are um but there's going to be a shit
ton of people that are new here that have no idea who these people are right like yeah it's a little
bit of like uh full swing on on on Netflix you know it's like you got to kind of educate
the audience a little bit because you're getting outside the sphere.
You think, too, as the years go on, like, we're a big Cedar Lodge again, right?
So, like, you're just building storylines and you're building history.
And you're able to show, like, you were able to show a lot of page stuff from last year.
So that adds context to someone that's just watching this year that maybe didn't know.
And you're adding a lot of stuff about Luquan and all these different moments.
So even for next year, right?
And like the next ones and the next ones, you're going to have so many more context,
content to be able to put to each person and you know i just i like the idea of people that don't
know our world learning more about these players like you could even go even more in depth you could
show like where they're you know i mean like you could almost like the bachelor does like they go
home with some people and like they just show that's like the sauce right there man they want to know
where do they go each day where do they live i want to see the house they live in like what's
is this changing their life you know i mean little shit like that like i love that stuff
also it was so funny.
It was like perfect, perfect timing when Bubby was the first group out,
Fasoli was the drone op on one,
and Bubby's driving down the fucking fairway,
and he just goes,
what's up Fasoli?
And Marissa looks at him in the cart and goes,
oh, I love that kid.
And Bubby's like, yeah, that's the one.
And then, like, I'm able to flash back to him driving through a family.
It was like, when I was watching, I was like, this rules.
Like, I get to put, I get to put,
Fasoli drive through the fence
on the first hole.
This is great.
He was looking for a towel away.
barreling through the
freaking fence.
Dave's look back.
Dave's look back to Austin's camera.
What Fasoli hits the fence is unbelievable.
It's a lot of the best moments ever.
He's like,
what's that?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great shit.
you're the man B Jones
you are the man
Thank you thank you yeah
I was honestly like surprised you wanted to talk
I mean there's still five that I need to come out so it's like
Well you know what it is and now you have a face
You have a face to the name even more so than usual
In case anything it goes up in flames people can directly blame you
Because we've talked a lot about how good the production is
There's like a huge gap in an episode or something
Everyone's going to be coming all after you
So it's setting out stuff for failure or success which I like
I know I almost texted you back
Don't you want to wait until the last one?
This is kind of,
we're not counting any chickens just yet.
We're just like letting the people know.
I honestly think for our diehard fans that are like listening to every single show, right?
Shout to all of you, by the way.
The YouTube numbers are definitely going up.
People are showing up for the four play pod.
I'd like to get that subscriber number up a little bit on the podcast channel.
So if you're listening to this on YouTube or watching it,
please go hit subscribe.
That'll be huge for Ryan Richen,
who's doing two jobs at once right now.
He would absolutely love to see that number go up.
I just think people like to hear that inside baseball talk.
You know,
as you're watching the next.
episodes you know who's hitting the keys that's like that's a cool thing i like that shit i also think
the five hour thing was enough of a hot button issue that like people wanted to hear from him
address it yeah yeah yeah i didn't see many people saying that that was a negative i saw a couple
like reddit threads of people being like you know people on twitter suck like i can't believe
they're complaining about five hours i'm like i didn't see any of that i saw all positive shit
we might have created a straw man argument where there's nobody on that side and
we just decided that that's going to be one of the things that we talk about.
It's possible.
I think Tripp probably said it right.
He said it was definitely a hot button issue,
but I don't know how much backlash there was for it.
Right.
I don't know how many people are going to fucking get it sucks.
I just think Dave said it like on Wake Up Barstool for the first time.
It got some traction.
But I don't know.
Yeah, I didn't read all the response to that.
I did see what he said, but I didn't,
I wouldn't even necessarily say it was like negative reaction.
It just kind of got people talking.
But I'm with you.
I don't know that I saw a ton of negative.
I just think people were like, oh, five hours, whoa.
He's got like 80,000 likes on Instagram, on, on YouTube, and like, I don't even know how many thousand of comments.
And it's like, everyone's praising Brendan Jones in there.
They don't know that they are a lot of them because they're just like, this is the best edited and produced video I've ever seen.
But do you throw your name at the end of there and all the other guys after each episode.
No.
Maybe at the end you should do it.
I agree.
Are you crazy, bro?
Yeah, of course you should.
I mean, the fucking ending should be like the Godfather where it goes in the beginning.
You should do like a two-minute intro edited by.
I had a while moment on the five-hour thing when the little bottom line, the first ad,
and then that bottom line pops up, you know, to like show you how many segments there are.
And I go, did that say five fucking hours?
Because I didn't know it was five hours.
God, there.
I was like, holy shit, I'm invested in this now.
Five hours is a lot of time.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's awesome.
Yeah, maybe we'll do this again after it all wraps up.
Lisa Litchback, dude. Lisa Liffback obviously crushes it.
Like she has become best friends, but it feels like everybody in the field.
They all text her to figure out, like, what they can and can't do or whatever.
She brought down a cake to my desk yesterday to like the four-play quadrant.
She brought down a cake.
She was like, congrats on the launch or whatever on Monday, on the launch of the first one.
I was like, thank you so much.
but like this is way pretty sure.
Like there are five more that need to come out.
I appreciate it.
I did see you get a cake.
That was a nice.
That was nice.
But I just,
you know,
it's a nice gesture.
Cake yet though.
Yeah.
It was like,
thank you.
But like,
you ate that cake,
dude.
I bet you ate some of that cake.
That bite.
But like each of these things,
the cake,
us having you on for a full hour.
This is all just motivation that it has to be good.
The rest of the way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
I had,
I definitely had enough of that.
that for sure i definitely have enough of that for sure like i was saying to josh to lodgeman actually he was
like we were talking about the numbers here in the office and he was like holy shit like four million
in the day or whatever and i'm like yeah dude that that's that's not that's not putting shivers
down your spine as the guy who needs to like make sure it's good you know yeah you know no offense
this isn't just like breaking 85 220 k it's like you see that and it's like if that's not
putting pressure on even i don't know what it also you know like an honest
everything's going to be roses coming up.
Like there's going to be some villains that are going to start getting like,
you know,
this is this thing's going to start revving up here.
We got five more episodes to go.
There's going to be a lot of people on social media talking about this thing.
And it's going to get some positive.
And it's going to get some negative.
There's going to be a lot coming at you,
but just keep editing this thing the way it's supposed to be edited and let the,
let the content just play out the way that it played out because this is going to be
one of the most memorable talked about golf moments and golf videos for sure of all
time.
100%.
and you're just like putting that thing out there.
So head down, clear hearts.
It's like you're, uh, yeah, you're like,
your eyes, full heart, can't lose.
You're putting out, you're putting out the biggest, like,
non-professional golf tournament in history.
Yeah, that's absolutely true.
In history.
Yeah.
We got to get, we got to get this guy out of here.
We got to kick him off.
I got to go, dude.
Yeah, we got to get out of it.
I got to go.
You're the man, Matthew Jones.
Keep it up.
Thank you.
Shout to my wife.
I haven't talked to her in.
like three weeks. She's doing it. She's like, I don't know where my husband's been, but I guess this is
the link to what he's been working on. Yeah. Very funny. He's been M.I. for six months. So good.
She's like pregnant with a two-year-old and she's just like, where you at? And I'm like upstairs.
I don't know where he's been, but this is the link. You're right where you need to be,
be drones. You're not helpful for a kid till they're like three, man. Don't worry about it.
I go down there and I like distract her for like 20 minutes.
And you're like, all right, I'm done.
Going back up.
All right.
We'll do it again.
Brennan Jones.
All right, Jonesy.
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I'll give you a little.
Halloween, dude.
Oh, yeah, it is.
It is Halloween.
What's Frankie Boy going to be?
Frankie boy is Donald Duck
We had a we had a parade around our little village the other day
And it was the cutest thing
I mean he he was the talk of the town
And we probably there was probably like 600 kids in this little
Like parade that goes around the park
And ever you know they bring the fire truck leads it
And there's an awesome little thing they do
And then everyone congregates in the park that's right by here
And Frankie was walking right in the middle clapping
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It's so freaking funny, man.
Yeah, we're excited for that.
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Amazing.
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You know, I knew you're going to ask me that after I asked that and I started scouring my brain to try
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Shout out to George.
Yeah, George.
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That's probably somewhere golf.
He's all in on golf now.
I'm sure he's going to be some type of golf, dude.
Dumb and dumb and that makes me happy that, like that, that generation even knows what that is.
Yeah, that's great, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What are you two's kids going to be?
I can't remember the last time I was.
was anything for Halloween, unfortunately.
Yeah, no.
Well, now it's all weird for me
because my daughter wants me to take her,
so I don't even really do anything.
I just go to one of her friends' parents' house
and we drink beer until they come back, and then we come home.
Right.
So the whole lifestyle has changed from what Frank's going to do with Frankie boy.
He's going to be walking, holding hands,
getting excited about candy.
Yeah, it's funny.
Like, one of my buddies sent us a, like an invite.
He's like,
3 p.m. Halloween kind of party. Come by. We're going to have drinks. We're going to have hors d'oeuvres.
And there's going to be trick-or-treating. And I'm like, can I, if I go to that just like alone as like on the single man with like no costume, is that weird? Like do I need to bring, I need to find kids to bring to this thing?
What do? What do you do at this thing?
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that's probably the move
dressed up
I'll just be with the dads
I got a little something
I guess this is the show
to do it but my
I told you guys pre-show
but my mom's 70th birthday
is Monday
so between now
and the next podcast
that we put out
my mom is an avid listener
of every single show
so Miss Jean Bozoian
we did a nice celebration
this past summer
at Big Cedar Lodge
which is a place we used to vacation
as kids before they had all the golf
we had like 25 or 30 people our whole family a bunch of her friends some of her sorority sisters
and we went down to big cedar we did a boat day we did a nice meal overlooking the sunset
and the cannon right there at the oh sage top of the rock restaurant but we were celebrating in the
summertime to get everybody together because she's got a November birthday so so yeah Monday
November 2nd is my mother 70th birthday so happy birthday to my mom happy birthday happy birthday happy
Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
Yep. That's a big
Yep. I know. It's a big one. It's a great
one. That's amazing. Yeah, you guys had a hell of
a party out there and Big Cedar. I remember seeing those pictures and the video is amazing.
And what an amazing place to celebrate.
It's like the family side. We get to always see
the golf side. And the family side, the resort
is incredible from what it looks like.
Oh, man. It's awesome. They were like,
we stayed at basically a version of like the four bedroom
cottage that they have at Paynes Valley Golf.
but it's on the family side, like you said,
just overlooking the lake.
And the way they said it is like Johnny Morris,
when they were building these,
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and like planted a stake in the ground
looking at the sunset over the lake
and was like, this is the view that I want this cabin to have.
So just build this thing however it needs to be
to have this view right here.
And so like the first main night that we were there,
we just did a huge barbecue and cookout
overlooking the lake with like our back deck and my brother was whipping up the barbecue and we had
drinks and big cedar provided without us even really knowing like a huge cake for my mom's
birthday and she had a bunch of her friends and she opened some presents and it was like as good
and fun as it gets and so so yeah happy birthday mom her actual birthday i guess that is monday so
it's a big one and um and otherwise yeah everybody Halloween enjoy Halloween weekend
I got a stream song coming up.
I'll be recording from stream song.
I got my buddy's trip.
Super pumped to get back there.
I got all my friends coming.
A couple of them had to drop out.
My buddy Kyle broke his hand,
which sucks.
No way.
Playing golf.
He broke something inside his hand,
so he's out.
And then like my brother-in-law,
my sister's husband is going to be in like a movie,
even though he's not even an actor.
Someone cast him in a movie,
a Tom Hanks movie.
They're like,
hey, you would be able to play a good role
as Tom Hanks's,
assistant coach and they're like going to city field he's going to be a met's coach and they're
like filming the days that we're going so i lost two guys like last minute which is outrageous
he's like a police officer doesn't think any sense um so that i got that going on but yeah so
ben over at stream song was like hey like we'd love to get you out at bone valley like i went down
there for the match between dave and the hank team and yeah um i didn't get a chance to play out
there i'm super excited to go see bone valley the new golf course at stream song it looks incredible from
what I had seen from just being a spectator that day and an announcer.
And he's like,
if any of your friends want to go out,
like let me know,
it's kind of,
we're in preview play right now.
So just let me know who's going to be on the list.
Like,
who wants to play that day.
I sent it out to a bunch of my buddies that are all going to be going on this trip.
And everyone's like saying like,
and I wrote,
I said,
Hey, guys,
like we have an afternoon tea time on Monday.
There's a pool at stream song.
I booked this because I know we're getting in Sunday.
We're probably going to have some drink Sunday night.
We're going to play the chain,
the par three.
Like if anyone wants to just have like an,
like a,
just a late morning.
I know everyone has kids and stuff.
Like if you just want to sleep in and then play at 1 o'clock,
you're fine.
But we have the option to play at 7 a.m.
And 1 p.m.
We never usually do 36.
It's walking only.
I wrote this whole thing down.
A couple people are like,
I'm in,
I'm in.
And my dad just sent a photo of a bottle of tequila with a bottle of pineapple juice
and then a photo of a pool.
And he's like,
I'll see you.
That's all he wrote.
And we're all like,
we'll see you at 1 p.m.
I know that you're not going to wake up at 7 o'clock
and play golf.
I can't wait to see how toasted he is by 1 p.m. after a whole day at a Tampa Bay, you know, pool.
And let me tell you something else about Tampa like that.
When you look at a Florida forecast, it's a disaster.
Like, rain for 20 days, right?
But like, and then you go on, you go in to each day.
And it's like, all right, it'll rain from 1 to 4 p.m. scattered.
And then like, like, you just never know.
I mean, Trent, you lived down there.
How do you even?
Is there ever a day?
where it shows no rain emoji
no and like two months in
I stopped using my weather app completely
because you don't either they have no idea
they you you think they know because they have an app
and it looks pretty and it's on your phone and you can use it
you have they have less of an idea than you do
what's going on down there how do they not get a handle of this thing
they just don't have a clue
too much water around dude I I said that the group and they're like
that's not real like it'll be fine I'm like
it's a hundred percent for 30 days
every day.
Your friends are right.
It's going to be fine.
Someone wrote like if it's not a hurricane,
it's fine.
Like,
you know what I mean?
Like as long as it's not like an actual storm it's coming through,
but all that other stuff is just daily shit.
So you know,
I just spent an entire weekend with the architect of Bone Valley.
Oh, yeah.
Man, Mr. David McLean kid.
And man,
he's raving about it.
And the,
the others,
Matt Janella,
especially who's played it a few times and he's doing a great job with Kemper Sports
of documenting the building of it and he I believe Janella was like I think it's the most fun
and arguably best golf course in the state of Florida is what he was saying.
Dude, I kind of like I wasn't paying attention to how good it was because like I said I was doing
the announcing for that draft Kings match so we were kind of like getting ahead of them and
waiting for balls to drop down and it was just like a whole thing had an earpiece in.
And I remember some holes just catching my eye of being like,
This doesn't even look like Florida.
I can't believe where we're at right now.
StreamSong kind of does that too.
And we were out there.
It doesn't look like Florida golf at all.
It's hard pan.
And the thing that I wrote in like my introduction text to all my buddies about
StreamSong was like the coolest thing about StreamSong.
I said this on that broadcast was you've got what now, five golf courses, including
the chain, five golf courses all using the same exact terrain, but every single golf course
looks completely different.
So it's the same grass, same terrain, same weather, same.
same location, but all five golf courses,
if you just got dropped in the middle of the fairy,
you think, holy shit.
And that is golf course architecture.
That's what the difference is.
One guy saw it this way and the other guy saw it that way.
Same exact layout.
Really cool.
That to me is really,
really cool.
Similar to like forest tunes, right?
Same place.
Yep.
One is this like country club-esque golf course and the other one is a hard pan,
reversible 18 holes.
You know,
it's very cool how like different architects can see the same shit.
and make you feel like you're playing five different courses.
So I'm excited.
I'll see.
Yep.
That's going to be great.
Dream song's awesome.
They did such a good job down there.
All right.
I believe that's it.
Everybody have a great Halloween weekend and enjoy episode two of the internet
invitational.
We'll be back next week.
Tuesday's show.
We'll have a lot more to break down and get into.
Big thanks to Brendan Jones, the entire team.
Kyle, Jared, everyone that Brendan mentioned,
and more on all of the.
effort to get that thing up and running. It's crushing it. The numbers are insane.
Over 6 million views in 48 hours. Ryan Richen doing multiple jobs. I don't know. I don't know if he
even knows what we talked about on this podcast. I don't even know if he knows we're done with the
podcast. Ryan, there is. I got notes. I got notes. All right. Aad boy. He's a little rattle. Probably
the brew crew didn't get it done last night, but they're still looking pretty good.
It was a great game. Awesome game. Just there's a big ceiling.
Dude. Stayed of wrestling for an hour before bed thinking just how did that happen, running it through in my mind the entire time.
Like, I don't know how Jory Ortiz didn't fucking throw that guy out at first.
But you know what? That's baseball, I guess.
That is Bowers. He never misses that pick either.
Yeah. I mean, if they don't get it done tonight, it'll be serious panic mode.
But, you know, we got Miz on the mound, so hopefully it goes well.
I think it ends tonight. But you never know.
Yep.
I think it does too.
All right, everybody enjoy the weekend.
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