Fore Play - “I went full Hideki” with Mark Hubbard

Episode Date: August 9, 2022

Fresh off a hilarious ace, Mark Hubbard joins the show (01:27:26). We discuss: his beef with airline pilots, his Homeless Hubbs Twitter account, the dry erase board in place of a sponsor on his bag, and showing pure disgust as he holed an ace on Tour. Before Mark, Riggs relives his week at the Wyndham, Frankie and Trent recount Pup Punk’s NYC performance, and Lurch unbelievably winds up at a shockingly coincidental hotel.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. And then I talked to my neighbor for like the first time ever and I had no shirt on. And he looked at me. He's like, dude, he goes, this is your place? Like he goes, it's up, man. He's like, this is your spot? And I'm looking down.

I'm like covering my nipples. I'm like, hold on. me just go get, uh, let me go get my girl real quick because she'll talk to you. Like, I'm just like, four playups in my bar stool, sports. We are back. It is the very beginning of the FedEx Cup playoffs this week there at the FedEx, St. Jude in Memphis. We have on Mark Hubbard for the very first time.

He's going to come on the second half of the show. Excellent interview. Really, really good dude. We never chatted with him before. He, like a week and a half ago, became pretty internet famous for going, as he called it, full Hodecki with an ace where he dropped the club, hated it, looked a way whole one one 217 yard par three uh he was getting shit from his playing partners wyndham clark was a is a buddy of his from colorado was in there it said i'm not high-fiving you

he was like begging for it to go in so he'd be as embarrassed as possible and of course it went in and we just went all over the place he's very anti-airline pilots making noise he was he was great i loved him yeah really cool vibe good energy um cut from the same cloth as all the guys that we really like on tour where it's kind of just like he just happens to be a really good golfer, but first and foremost, he's just a good guy that's like you'd grab a beer with. Definitely not your country club elitist type of personality. So really, really big fan of Mark Hubbard. I think he's funny follow on Twitter, too. I just kind of skimmed through all of his tweets and he's pretty opinionated and vocal on Twitter where he'll like be, he'll be making jokes about

the tour and live and like all this stuff. He's, he's pretty legit. So he's a good follow. I'm a thermal follow right now. I don't follow. Yeah, me too. I got to get more aquamated, acclimated, acclimated with his, with his Twitter account. I spent the entire pretty much week at the Wyndham Championship, so I want to go through a couple notes from that. First, we got to discuss Shopify, which is the all-on-one commerce platform that runs, starts, grows your business. Shopify gives entrepreneurs the resources once reserved for big business. And look, it's hard to start a business. We kind of, we basically did that within Barstool. It's very difficult. You're trying to work on connections, relationships, finances, trying to progress, improve your

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Obviously, I was there throughout the week. I spoke about it on Thursday. show last week a little bit, but just how cool it is to be at a sort of an average, sort of a week-to-week-type PGA tour event. This one in Greensboro, every single person that you meet just thanks you for being there. I think all the big swinging dicks from Wyndham made sure to go out of their way to like introduce themselves and just say thanks, sending follow-up notes. Every person in the town takes off at least a few hours on Thursday or Friday to get out to the course and check it out. They're very proud of their past champions. They're very curious what you think about the

course, about the town. They just absolutely are obsessed with you being there. And that's such a cool vibe. So again, I just wanted to shout that out, like the passion and the energy and the commitment that goes into the tournament and making sure it goes off as best as possible from like thousands of people that live and work there is unprecedented. And there's these volunteers out there, man. It's like 100 fucking degrees with, you know, 2,000 percent humidity. And these, volunteers are out there with like their southern hospitality and twang just like thanking you for coming as you walk across and they just hold the ropes for you and you're like how are you not dead out here so all of those people committing that hard my man james who i posted a picture he had the best tiger

wood shirt i've ever seen it's just a t-shirt with a giant image of tiger woods reading a putt on it and i saw a few people kind of responded to that they picked up that t-shirt too um but my guy james who just he's just one of those guys that does everything he's kind of reminded me of like spider where he just literally does everything with a smile on his face he does like corporate hospitality so he sells a lot of the does a lot of the sales and he goes and like does client maintenance with the people that are there checks them out make sure they're having a good time and then he also like drives me around and then he goes and gets kids his like parking passes and then at one point picks me up in a golf cart and he's yeah we got to swing by rickies we like drive by ricky

fowers rental house he drops off like a bottle of wine is a gift on the front door he's just fucking everywhere. So my man James Gentry, shout out to him all week. And then Mark Brasel, who kind of runs the whole operation from a tournament perspective, absolute legend. And these guys are, they're up at like 4.35 in the morning every day. They're out to like one or two having beers, like entertaining, hanging with people. So just everything that went into the Wyndham, it was a phenomenal, phenomenal week.

I'm going to do everything I can to get back. I don't know why I'm laughing. I know why I'm laughing. That's a great story. I love the Wyndham. I mean, I don't think Trent can handle my water bottle. Yeah, you got like a new water bottle that you keep sipping on. You sip on it for like two minutes.

It's like I just, it's got a little bit of a nipple on it. And listen, I love, you know, boobs are sick. And this is like a little bit of like a sucking on a nipple type of drink. If I can do that, if I can have that sensation and also hydrate, I'm going to pick that every time, brother. I just know that you made it very clear that you were like, I got a new water bottle. I'm going to be sipped you did this right to Mark Hubbard interview and I started laughing and I just had to put it out of my mind. And then Riggs is talking about his awesome week at Wyndham, which I agree. Like every time we've gone to an event like that, like I have gone to John Deere, you guys can laugh whatever you want. But it's the same type of vibe. Volunteers out there working their asses off in the middle of the summer in the Midwest is no joke. And that they're just very appreciative of the attention that a podcast like this can bring to an event like that. So it is cool.

to go to one of those and see that that type of love. But then Frankie's fucking sipping on that goddamn water bottle and I couldn't stop laughing. And it's just like you got a more subtle ways to enjoy a water bottle for sure. It's definitely one of the best ways. Sucking on a nipple is for sure one of the better things we get to do on this planet.

And if you get, like I said, if you get to hydrate while doing that activity, it's fun. So, but yeah, dude, the windom's awesome. It looked awesome from all the pictures and the videos and how did you end up playing in the proam? I don't think we got an update on that. So yeah, I want to talk about the proam. First of all, I'll say the pro am, there's rounds of golf that we play that are kind of a slug,

and then there's rounds of golf that are just phenomenal, and then there's rounds of golf in between. Pretty much any round of golf is going to be more enjoyable than almost anything else that you do. The old cliche is like a bad day on the course, better than a good day at work and all that. The Wyndham Pro Am was probably, like, at least tied for the most fun I've ever had on a golf course. Because, I mean, so we've had Chris Lane on the show before, you know, absolute superstar. His brother, Corey Lane, is the drummer in his band. They're twin brothers.

So they're literally fucking identical from a DNA perspective from everything. They're both musical. They walked on to the tea. They're very similar golfers to us, I would say. Like, they can play really well. They love golf. They're obsessed with golf. And they were nervous as hell.

So they step on the tea. And it was a shamble format, which for someone that was going through at the time, the state of my game was the best case scenario, because my irons are fantastic. My short game and touch is pretty good. My driver can be off the planet. Well, Shambal, the three of us, tee off. We take the best drive of the three of us.

Then we just play our ball in from there. And then Kiz plays his own ball. Lahiri plays his own ball. So we played amazing. We were 11 under, I think. I actually hit the ball damn good. I did have a few wild drives. My first drive on the first hole was like a foot inbound barely.

I hit like a duck hook on like the fifth hole. Almost killed some people. But then I also on 18, like we took my drive. I piped it down there. So it was some good. It was some bad. I was probably 50-50 with the driver. But I hit a lot of the two irons because, I mean, you guys know how it is.

You play from pretty far up compared to the pros. You play from 64, 65 for yards, whatever it is. And Corey Lane could absolutely smoke the golf ball. I mean, he could hit some outrageous drivers. So I would just hit my two iron out there, get us in play. And these guys would just let it rip on a lot of holes, right? And feel like hitting driver. Long story short, like two or three holes in.

the lane bros were like man we need a drink we're like pretty nervous so we had started having a couple beers had a couple fellas that live on the fifth hole who brought me some trullies they're like riggsy looks like you need a couple cold trullies i did so i had a couple trullies out there and we were just hanging kiz was in full kis mode he was chirping he was helping everybody he was giving reads doy's out there like making fun of kiz being like he must like you guys because kiz never does this he always is just like fuck this shit so kis was in like full kis mode um good crowd. It's sort of in a neighborhood, like I explained. I think again on the last show, it is very much in the middle of the neighborhood. So a lot of people, locals are out there. They're kind of on their back patio and they're hooting and hollering. And then with honor bond, Lahiri, who we played with on the second nine, total beauty. Like, Kiz knows him pretty well. So Kiz walked to the tentee and did kind of a handoff. And then right off the gate, he was like chirping all of our T shots. We were chirping kids back. So Lahiri kind of knew, knew the drill. And he was very into it. And he, you know, Kiz was. was like, Kiz was like, you know, he's, he's, he's Indian. So he's got like the,

very, he speaks very kind of short. So Kiz is like, it's laugh out loud, funny because this things he says, they come off is very directed. And somebody would hit one, he'd be like, not good. Like, it was. It was so fucking funny how into it he was. And he loved it. And he played pretty well, made a couple big birdies that we needed. And we were kind of in the mix. We learned that like 15 under won it. We were seven under on the front, I think. And And so going into the back, we were kind of right there. We birdied the 10th hole and we kind of stalled in the middle of the back nine. But overall, played pretty well, had an incredibly fun time.

It's one of those, again, where the gifts that they give you are outrageous. I mean, they're, like, they're tailor-made sponsored. So obviously, I don't need one. But like, you get to just hit this QR code afterwards on this thing they gave you. And you just get to pick a brand new stealth driver and, like, build your own stark driver for everyone that played. And then they're sponsored by Polo Robbins. Floreen, which again is not one of ours, but I give you this other QR code you get in.

You get like $500 worth of credit. You get to just scroll through a bunch of like sick options that they have and pick $500 worth of gear. And that was on top of other stuff that they give you. So, um, so yeah, they just treat people like kings. The hospitality there is an enormous part of it. They had like the club wind and beach that I was at for a few different days. Um, and it's, you know, I was talking with the guys too and my man, James about how, how,

how essential and how fun the hospitality angle of golf tournaments is that we never really realized before. And I thought like the first time we ever really got to notice it because a lot of times when we go to events, we're pretty, we're not there to just hang out, right? Like we're pretty not stressed, but like we're trying to get shit. Like we paid money for flights and hotels and we're on the range. We got a credential. And it's like we're trying to somehow get and make it worth it for us to be there. We don't usually get to just chill. And one of the days it stuck out with Frankie and we were at Torrey Pines with the full swing simulator.

guys is like that Saturday or whatever it was, we just sat on the 17th hole in that hospitality tent for like six hours straight. And we just had some drinks, did like dollar bets on every group that came through. Like imagine if you go to an event and that's all you're doing for a couple days the entire time, that is as much fun as you can have, whether you're that into golf or not. And so kind of getting to see the hospitality angle without a ton of stress about us trying to be there and get a bunch of stuff at the Wyndham, you just realize like how how much of a part of the professional game and the PGA tour and what they've built, that part of it is. And it's just a blast.

Like going to a tournament without really caring that much about capturing it or covering it or live tweeting it where you're just chilling with your friends or your coworkers or whatever it is. It's an underrated part of the whole scene. And I got to experience it for a few days at the Wyndham. And it was fucking excellent. Yeah. It's like watching a real sporting event when you get to do that.

When we were in Torrey Pines, I'm like, I feel like I'm at a baseball game. You're sitting in a seat. You got a beer. You got peanuts. so you got a hot dog and you're just watching sport. And like I never really get to do that with you guys. Like we're always just running around like you're saying on one side of the ropes, on the other side of the ropes.

We're in the media tents and all that stuff. So it is fun to just sit back and watch the best golfers in the world just play the sport in a nice comfortable setting. So it sounds like it was an amazing week though. It was. It was incredible. And then I want to also shout out. They just, they love Sung J.M. there.

And the reason they love them is a couple years ago, um, James was telling me. me like he got there. I guess he missed the cut the week before. And, you know, these guys, they do everything to set everything up. So it's all the hotel rooms and the dinner reservations and the flight accommodations and making sure somebody has a car ready when they get to the airport and all this. Well, Sanjay, I guess missed the cut the week before. He got in Saturday instead of coming in Monday. And so they just didn't have accommodations for him. And I guess he rolls deep. He had like 12 people with like his whole team and his and his men. And they said he rolls in.

and his like agent calls and they're they're trying to sort it out and so james like meets up with them and he's expecting them to just be complete chaos he ends up at like the the win suites like whatever average hotel he like meets them there because he's like i think i can get a room so he gets him like basically barely a room for the whole squad to fit and i guess the second james walked in said i think it was sung jay's dad was just looking around and was like this nice this very nice and so he said for the rest of their time, like everywhere they go, they just stay at the wind suites. And he's like, no, no, no, we got you at like the, we got you in like the penthouse at like the grand over the sick resort. And he's like, no, no, this perfect. And so every time they go. And then

he said on Sunday, Sunday finished like pretty early. I think he finished middle of the pack. So his round was done. And James was with like some hospitality folks having like drinks, entertaining. And so he just didn't look at his phone for like an hour. And I guess Sunjay waited around for like an hour to half after his round for his agent called James and waited and then to in person thank James for getting everything set up and got him like sign flag and all kinds of signed stuff. And he said instead of taking off, he waited like an extra hour and a half just around the clubhouse until he could personally thank him. So long story short, this whole crew at the Wyndham that runs the tournament, Sung Jay is like their favorite guy in the world. And I guess his

family's fucking awesome and they just love him to death. Wow. It's just different type of Yeah, he's just, that sounds like a guy just really, really loves his life and like everything about it. He's just so, like, respectful and just a happy, happy go lucky guy. And I'm actually glad that he's, uh, that LEO is like the biggest son J.M fan of all time constantly gambling on him and betting for him for him to have some success. So that's good that we've got that guy in our corner. Yeah. And he's, you know, and we, the story from whatever year or two ago when he played like 35 events, he just plays nonstop. Like, I think the guy just. loves golf. He loves being out there. And again, apparently him and his whole squad are just as

nice as can be and incredibly respectful. So I thought I'd tell that little tale because they, I mean, I was getting text Sunday morning from that crew that runs the tournament when Sungay was leading, being like, let's go. They're obsessed with that guy. So a good week for him. He didn't end up closing it out as Tom Kim went just nuts and shot a billion under and won the whole thing. But shout out to him. Before we get deeper into, we got a shout out to G4 as well. Well, I actually got, I was just showing you guys. I got home. I don't think he has seen these yet.

I'm excited for his reaction. I guess this was the ghost limited edition drop last month. So I just got home. I'm three weeks late to this thing. But look at these. Oh. I have not expecting that. I mean, again, these are kind of their special drops.

I don't, you know, I'm going to have to put together a pretty, a pretty interesting outfit to pull these off. But I'm going to try. And if you can't pull those off, got the cross trainer. Oh yeah. Which we all love. We wear these a lot. We got our own that are behind me as well.

But these MGX... The most comfortable golf shoe ever. It's insane how comfortable there. I wear them so much that I got like dirt dropping onto my laptop right now. This is the MG4 squared. Is that how we announce it? MG4X2. Yeah.

That's how Vinny LaTerry says. It's a small two up there. You got to say squared. I'm assuming it's squared. All right. That makes sense. The crossover design, it takes you from... Tea time to happy hour.

You can wear these puppies anywhere. They're breathable yet waterproof. The mesh material ensures all day comfort no matter what the weather throws at you. Premium grip on the links for you to sink into your swing. I believe you guys rocked these the entire Scottwin trip, which that terrain is as rough and tough as it gets. And it rains. And you guys were obviously in elite form.

I had brand new gallivanters with me that we were also selling with the red bottoms and the bar stool insoles. Yep, those are so good But I just Something about being in Scotland And like the really hard ground I was a little nervous about cracking those things open For the first time

Because we were walking so much Like I've opened up Galavanges before And just worn them And I literally couldn't believe how comfortable they were But you're also like in a cart And like you can kind of ease into them It was a different beast in Scotland So I had the MG4X pluses or squared

MG4X plus squared Whatever The trainer's Definitely can't be it, but yeah, sure. Those things were unbelievable to be able to wear. How weird of a move is this? I want to get your guys' opinion on. I wore those shoes yesterday to do some gardening in my backyard.

Wow. I put golf shoes on. I like that. I think it's just kind of the same argument we've had with, like, why you wear those types of shoes to golf events as a spectator. Like, it's the same exact terrain. Like, I was walking through dirt and, like, turning on fucking, sprinklers and like planting new flowers and then watering them. So it was like muddy and like dirty.

And like I was just like, why wouldn't I just wear golf shoes? This is literally what you wear golf shoes for. Yeah. What other shoe would you have worn? Like another just like sneaker that just would have gotten dirty that I thought. I think it makes the most sense to use the golf shit. I guess you could wear like a boot, but I'm not strong enough. I can't I already last podcast I talked about how I can't like procreate. Like if I if I had a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a, uh, a lawn to mow, I wouldn't, I think I would probably wear the golf shoes. I wonder how many people mow their lawn with golf shoes on. Do you think it's a high percentage?

No. Yeah. You do. You think it's a high percentage. I don't know high percentage, relatively high. I think higher than people would get. I think they probably wear sandals and shit. I just think if you're walking on the grass, it's fine.

I think what I was doing was a lot of dirt work. Well, I think it's a good, yeah, I guess that's a good point. But, you know, the reason people wear golf shoes at golf tournaments, is not because you're trying to act like you're a golfer, which is what Dave always trips you before and what Whitney trips before. It's because why go by a whole other pair of shoes to be walking outside, like hiking shoes or maybe you don't have them? Golf shoes are made to walk on outdoor golf-like terrain.

So why wouldn't you wear those instead of ruining your good sneakers or whatever else you have? I guess the concern with wearing golf shoes when you're mowing the lawn is that you will ruin that pair of shoes. Like if you, I grew up mowing lawns all the time and you wear the same parachute every time, because they get green every single time. When you mow a lawn, they get green. The whole bottom half,

at least gets entirely green. And you probably wouldn't want to do that with a new pair of golf shoes. If you have an old pair of golf shoes that you're only going to wear to mow your lawn, then you use those. But like if you don't want to take those new shoes, those yellow ones that you've got and mow along with those. I'd say the percentage is extremely low of people that wear golf shoes. I think it's probably an old pair, a new balance or like it's just they have their shoes

in the fucking garage or the shed. They pop a monower. They wear like sandals and then they just take a shower or whatever. Should not wear sandals. That's not safe. That's not safe. Okay, sorry.

I'm just picture. I don't mow my own lawn. We have a, you know, we have a landscaper. You've never mowed a lawn. Isn't that correct? That's correct.

It feels like. I've never fully mowed a lawn. I've pushed a lawn mower. That's nice. All right. All right. I know. I've cut a blade of grass.

I've never fully done a lawn. We're not coming for your family. I could. I mean, you've seen my backyard. it's like it's very mowable it's just a flat nice piece of large land that i could have a nice time out there do you think that's like a box you need to check as like a as a man that like someday you need to mow you just need to mow your own lawn i don't know maybe and i was also thinking about what i said last week about not being able to have like a child and all that

stuff and maybe i should dial that back but like also it's like all my dad for not creating a man you know like my dad didn't create a man it's like you know what i mean it's on him he's the one that needed to be like checked he created like a boy. You know what I mean? You're just a product of your environment. You're a product of your environment. And that's also, I got into another debate with someone the other day about the millennials and like how they ruin the world and how we're all like, it's all second place.

There's like second place trophies and last place is not like mean anything anymore. I was like, well, and I did the Brian Winhorse, Brian Winhorse. I said, well, now who are the people that bought the trophies? And like, who are the people and what was the generation that like put the, things into action. Was it the children playing t-ball? Was it the three-year-olds that were running around in kindergarten getting like second place ribbons?

Or was it the teachers and was it like the 40-year-olds and like the people that were born in the 70s and the 60s? You know what I'm saying? What I'm saying? Like was it those people that legitimately fucked up that generation? I think yes. Like your generation's so soft and all you need is like a computer and a fucking phone and you set at dinner and all these kids have iPads.

Did like my niece walk into? Apple and buy an iPad and like or did you hand her one because you couldn't handle like having a child like at the dinner table you just handed her an iPad watch the letter watch YouTube like were you the one were you the product of like the environment that legitimately saw the easiness of technology so yeah it didn't go over well like having arguments of like your family over that stuff but it's like it's such a good point by me that like they're the ones that fucked it up I I got to tell you I think that's a great point I think you're making a lot of tense, Frankie. G4.G4.com slash 4, by the way. G4.4. 10% off your first pair. G4.com slash 4.

There's a lot of boomers out there that like your generation soft. It's like you're the ones that fucked everything up. But don't you think the that generation, the boomer generation, they were probably said the same thing about by their parents in the generation before. Oh, well, their parents were like war veterans and shit. I mean, like that was a little bit different, I think. But what he's saying is that it happens with every generation. Right. Like, I'm not saying that the boomers were like our parents are pussies i'm saying that the boomers parents were like our kids are our generation you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah and it's and it's like a tough line to walk too because you want your children or the next generation after you to have a better life than you had

that's the goal for sure it just came down to like the like second place getting a first place trophy it's like well at that point like you guys set that precedent that was never like my generation's fault for legitimately setting the precedent that like you can't finish the second or last. Like, we, we would have, if you would have just been a little bit harder on everyone, it would have just been the same that the way you grew up. You know what I mean? So, yeah. No, I agree with that. It's also like if somebody, like, there'll be a, um, a slight that you can throw at somebody. It's like, oh, they're like a typical rich kid. But that's actually a compliment to like their parents. Because like those people's parents did really well and were rich.

It's like, that's great. I always said at a country club elitist kids and they're fucking dickbags. And I can picture the exact person that I'm talking about. Fucking cock. But like, yeah, I mean, they just had like everything about their family line was super successful and like really really like you're just envious about like how amazing of a life that is totally i'm almost most impressed by somebody who is like a rich kid who's actually the man and like the nicest person and super kind and then they also you find out there have every reason to be like a rich elitist asshole from the country club i'm always like well that that's difficult to do right there i mean i have a shout out for a guy like that i mean i think francis ellis is right there i mean he was on the Dave Porter show. Dave's like, aren't you richer than like everyone at Barcelona? And he's like, well, like, my dad was super successful, but like I'm not taking any of that

money. And I'm, I have to work. Like I'm, he's like, I value myself and my being based off of what I put into this world. And like, I'm only going to take out what I put in. I'm not, he doesn't like mooch or suck the teat off anything. He doesn't do that with Barclos. He didn't do that with his parents. Like, he is

a fucking perfect example of a guy that has made it for himself and refuses to take the handouts. And I think that's pretty cool. Excellent appearance on Dave Portnoye show. I was texting with Francis throughout the weekend. He's such a well-spoken man. And what I love about Francis, too, is he wears his heart on his sleeve.

Like, he, one of his big things was like, you know, negative feedback and everybody handles it differently when you become all of a sudden, you know, internet known. And I love that that man just wears his heart on his sleeve. And like, he would just react to things very raw and real. And you're right. Like he's Harvard guy, clearly family. comes from money. He's got like memberships and he's got and yet he just works for every dollar. He started his own like tutoring company. He put himself out there, which is hard to do when you,

when a lot of people consider you pretty much set to like put yourself out there like Francis does on the comedy scene and standing up. Got canceled by like fucking websites and shit for bad fucking article. It's like and then he took that in stride, man. I texted him like, I'm pretty sure that you're at where you're at now with Barstle relationships and Dave because you just handled it legitimately perfectly. Like he could have went on like a wrath of like, why'd you do this? Why'd you fire me? Why? Like he just fucking stayed quiet, kept his head down.

Did those comedy stuff. I mean, we're gargling his like red-haired ball sack right now. I think he deserves it. Yeah. It's an absolute fucking sausage sucking right now. Like we are just full on Francis dick right now. But it is what it is. And like it sounds like I texted him after the parents too being like that was amazing.

Like hopefully something gets worked out and you get brought back in the full because he did say during the day point I show like after the bar stool once the firing happened he was he's an eat what you kill type of guy where you're doing the stand-up thing you're doing the podcast thing and you're just kind of trying to make your make your own way i think frances is a perfect example of what we've just talked about big time yeah i love frances i think he's going to come back it sounding like it and he should he's a great great dude he's unbelievably talented he's a huge golfer too so i was actually telling him i was like do we got to get involved even if it's like a breaking 90 episode that he jumps in or whatever it might be.

Because he actually, I mean, he was a big help in our launching days with when it was just myself and Trent and we were trying to create the four play brand. And he would script a lot of like, whatever it is, this is four play or whatever the series was called where we would do like 30 to 60 second little scripted scenes in the office that were kind of golf related. He would literally sit down with us and like write those and get no credit for those. And we would just perform at them and they did extremely well. There's some early episode of the podcast that starts with a Francis Ellis cold open where he tells a joke.

I have no idea what episode it is. I don't even remember what the joke is. But he had told us a joke in the office. And we're like, that's great. Just pop in the studio, one of those old shitty studios. And we're like, just tell the joke and do a cold open. And that's how we're going to start the episode. Again, I don't know what episode it was.

But yeah, he was, I mean, he was just in, he was involved with a lot of things early on when we were starting the podcast for sure. I told a joke the other day we had to do a mic check before Pup Punk. We can get into Pup Punk. I haven't seen Trent since Pup Punk. I heard he had a great time. I didn't see him in the crowd. It was so honestly it was fucking packed that I could not see anyone that I knew in the crowd. Like it was crazy.

I had 35 people that I knew there from family and friends. I didn't see anyone until after the show. But we did a sound check and they're like, can we get the drummer's mic? And I just told this joke. I don't know if it's like off color or anything. but like I mean it's well it's just like the one you told to me on the course the other day about the money theoretical yeah I think it's pretty good I can you tell that one yeah it's a really good joke so this guy told this joke at a foundation the other day a foundation golf adding

and someone told it to me and I I've been thinking about it every time every since so this kid goes to his dad and he goes dad I want to know the difference between theoretically and realistically maybe you heard it at school or something he goes can you teach me the difference So the dad goes, okay, son, I want you to go upstairs and ask your mom, would you sleep with a homeless man for $500,000? So the kid marches upstairs, goes to his mom and says, Mom, would you sleep with a homeless man for $500,000? And she thinks about it. She says, yeah, I think I probably would. So he goes downstairs, tells the dad, hey, mom says that she would do it for $500,000.

So he goes, all right, ask your sister the same thing. So he goes and go downstairs, finds the sister, says, hey, would you sleep with a homeless man for $500,000? And the sister says, yeah, I'd probably do that. So he goes upstairs and goes, hey, the sister said yes as well. So they both said yes. So the dad goes, okay, son. So theoretically, we're sitting on a million bucks. But realistically, we're living with two whores.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just a fucking good joke, man. It's just a fucking gotcha. So I told this during the sound check and the place erupted, bro. Now, I might be like exaggerate a little bit. There was only four people there. but the sound guy like cackled.

So yeah, it's a good joke. It's about a Bing. It's like, I think an Italian guy told it out of Clark Gillies's Golf Outing Foundation or something like that. I think that's a big Todd Martin joke. I could see Todd Martin real now. Todd Martin would fucking eat that joke up.

He would eat that joke up with a fucking, like a, with a golden fork and knife. Yeah, he would love that one. That's right. What the hell are we talking about? I don't know. I actually want to tell you guys, I think I pick up.

where I'm going on my bachelor party. Have I told you guys this? No. Nashville. Yeah. Good choice. Really good choice. First I was picking Miami and all my friends sat me down and they're like,

you're not a Miami guy, man. You're not like, you're not beach and sun and like you're not those types of clubs. They're like four o'clock in the morning, five o'clock in the morning. I'm live music. I'm rock and roll. I'm country. I'm hockey game. I'm like good guys.

golf in the country. You know what I mean? Like that's, I think we can get a lot of things done in Nashville. I know it's like a popular spot. It's a little cliche at this point. Like everyone goes to Nashville. But also like you want to have a bad. Batchar parties are supposed to be cliche. That's like, that's the time to be cliche. I never thought I'd do it there. Like I only been to Nashville twice at this point, I think. And like, I only really experienced a strip like one day. And I fucking loved it. Like walking down that main strip and every single bar had the windows open. And it was back to back band, band, band, band, where, like, they had to have heard each other.

That's how close they are, but they're still playing. Fucking awesome. That's a good choice. Well, I think I got some good golf out there, too. Yeah, what time, I'm sure, with the connections, you'd be able to hook up some, we know a lot of people in Nashville. I know. I know.

What time of year are you going to go? Like, NHL season time? Yeah, I was thinking like after the Masters, like April-ish or something like that. So, like, probably catch a Predators, like, day game or something. I'll hit a bar guy, Dushane. get a nice little spot. So yeah, I think it's a pretty good, I think it's a good choice over.

I think Miami I would have gotten lost in the sauce a little bit. Just like, I think I would have been like sunburnt and just like, I don't know. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. As a guy that doesn't like Florida, I couldn't agree more with that. Yeah.

Nashville way over Miami. Speaking of bands real quick, Trent, just give me like your, what would you think about the show? Oh, I thought it was great. Yeah, I was in the back. Like, there were a lot of the, the bars of employees were in the back.

I couldn't, I was not going to push my way up to the front because there were so many people there and it was just hot and sweaty and people were singing. And I'm just kind of hanging back there with our guy Justin Mancini and Spider. Love Mancini. Dude, he's, he was, he's the best. But so I was just hanging in the back. The show was, it was great. I was at the original New York show when you guys were at Irving Plaza.

That show was great. I was at the Gramercy on Friday or Saturday night. You guys are like a legit band. Like I know that it's a joke that it's a satirical band. You guys are a cover band, although you do have some original songs. But when you guys get ripping, like when Rones on the mic and PFT's shredding and you've got a drum solo and Robbie Fox is open in the fucking the concert with that baseline. Like you guys are legit musicians and it's a very, very fun show to go to. Like any friend group has gone to a cover band night and had the best night of their lives.

Now you go to a cover band where it's these weird blog personalities that you follow on Twitter and Instagram and they know how to play these instruments. And it's just combine all that stuff. Everybody's singing along. It's just a really, really, really fun Saturday night. Dude, I appreciate that. But how good was Caroline when she fucking came out and blew the fucking roof off the place? She was amazing. I haven't, I don't know her very well.

Neither do I. The new hires from the Barstall Idol cast the characters. And, you know, I've seen around the office a little bit when we're in there doing interviews and stuff. But she got on the mic with the pop punk boys and just tore the place down. She did what? She did two songs. She did two songs. And we had, I had just introduced myself to her, I think, for the first time.

During sound check, we said, hey, like, we heard that you can do some singing. Like, you do it in your content. She did, that's how she got hired through Barstle Idol. she was doing like satirical songs and all this stuff and i think pf t dm der was like hey can you make it to sound check today like we'd love to see if you can sing like this taylor swift song and she showed up dude and sang the song and everyone was dead quiet when she was done even like the like the guys who worked at grammarcy looked at me the guy who was doing the mics looked at me took his headphones off and goes what the fuck was that like that was like Gwen stephanie good like that wasn't just like

have fun with your friends type of that was Avril Levine and Haley Williams, like that was a real belting out the top of your lungs hitting the notes. The crowd was loud all night, but I do think her two songs got the biggest pop. As loud as it got that. Frankie, can you run me through? I mean, you feel like your band, the band is expanding. I, uh, you guys got, you got a pretty good cast of characters now, right?

Yeah, we've got Rohn as a singer and he's just the best stage. He owns the stage. Like he just commands, he commands the crowd. If he tells you to jump, they jump. It's fucking awesome. He just looks cool up there and he sounds great. We've got Robbie Fox on the bass, who is just an encyclopedia of music and the fact that he can just hear something and play it. He's the baseline.

He is what makes the thing go. Like, no one gives enough respect to the bass. Like, he legitimately is the backbone of the band. Then you got PFT, the guitarist, who's just a superstar in the internet, going to have a million followers at some point soon. We were like going to make everyone just follow him so he can hit him a million at one point. And then he, he like got his start, I think in Austin, like trying to like make music a thing when he was younger. Like he like had that dream of like joining a band and going to Austin and like doing it. And like that like kind of fizzled out and then he did the blogging and all that.

And now he's a superstar. But he has these roots in him that like he always wanted to do this. And he fucking takes advantage of it every single show. And he is such a good guitarist where he can go on these riffs and like you can just jam. I don't know, Trent, but my favorite part of Pup Punk shows are when we're about to end a song, and me and PFT and Robbie will just jam for like a minute long where we're like, we just let PFT keep going. And like, all it takes to end is just a head nod from him and we know four more measures and I'm finishing it. Like, we can go for as long as we want and we can fumble into the ending, but it's fucking awesome.

And then we have Nick Hamilton, KFC radio producer. I made the initial request to have him in because I had heard that he played the guitar and played the piano and he's also an obsessive worker where he will not do something that isn't perfect. Like you could tell that with KFC Radio. He's one of the best producers we have at Barstool. And I was like, if we give this guy a task, like learn these 22 songs. We played 22 songs at Gramer Street Theater. It was an hour and 35 minutes set, which is not easy to fucking do. for Roan to remember all those fucking lyrics.

Nick Hamilton knows every single song we play. He's only fucking played with us like three times at this point. He's amazing. Background, keyboard. He's like a background guitar. And now we have Caroline who's going to fucking join the band. She's going to make Roan better because like now she can sing the songs that Roan struggles on because he can't get these fucking, some of these pop punk songs are ridiculously high pitch.

You've got these guys that like, I don't know, that emo like 90s rock band, They had like the highest pitch voices of all time. So yeah, it's amazing, dude. There was a moment at the end. They came out for an encore. And a couple guys in the band popped the tops. I saw you behind your kit refusing to pop the top. I was the loudest I yelled all night.

I was yelling at you to pop that top behind the kit. Bro, I had to wear a flannel, like a fleece flannel thing that was so hot because I have the world's worst tan. lines right now from going between Peter Milar and Unreal golf shirts. They're different lengths. So like I went to Shinnecock and wore the Unreal. It's tight. I look like Martin Kimer where like, you know, sometimes it's just like that tight shirt

around the fucking arm. You look like Martin Kimer. It's weird. So then I got a legitimate red line on my arm where the top is white and the bottom is red. And my T-shirts don't cover it. They're above it. I've fucked up the length. So then I like couldn't figure out.

I'd do it because I knew we were going to be on camera for that one. So I'm like, I'm wearing long sleeves. And not only am I wearing longs is I'm wearing a thick long sleeves. And I was drenched. You know how much I hate when people tell me, oh, aren't you hot in that? I kept, dude, I was cursing. I was like, why don't you fucking worry about your own fucking temperature? Wait, hold on.

Hold on. Are you saying that the tan line on your arm is the reason you didn't pop the top? Oh, my God, dude. If I popped that. Oh, I would have, if I was tan, throughout, regardless of my man titties and my belly and everything, I would have popped the top for sure. I know, but I'm saying that it's because of the titties that you didn't pop the top. No, it was it was because it looked like I was wearing a t-shirt and it would have went internet

viral. That's why. Amazing. No, I can't. Yeah, what's wrong? You're an entertainment. You're part of entertainment group. We already did the thing. The night was successful. I didn't need an over the top. Look how disgusting Frankie was. Like I didn't. It wasn't the whole band. So you weren't the only one. If you had been the only one, I would have been really at this point. But it was PFT, Nick Hamilton, and Robbie. And Robbie popped the top. So Robbie's got the correct thin body to do it. Like he doesn't have the man tits that are starting to get out of control.

He's got just like a flat board. So yeah, no, it was, it was a great night. My dad announced us for the encore. He got a pop. He got an absolute pop. He's also like a, I love him to death, obviously. He's a problem at those things. Like he's in, he's on the stage filming us.

We're like, dad, like we got like six. hundred people behind you get like he and he films in face like face time mode so like he'll hold he'll hold the video camera like this in front of roan's face where you can he ron has to see himself you understand what i'm saying he holds it away from him and roan's looking at himself like yeah it's a time to join oh fucking lurch is here by the way well i join we're talking about Frankie's body, which is just, uh, which is not a true amazement. What if your dad popped up over there now? Would have been unbelievable if my dad popped the top, but I still wouldn't have done it.

Would you have followed suit? I can't, dude. It would have been a joke. It would have been made, like, I never would have lived that down. Like, I have to get my skin right before I do that. Does your dad have a better body than you? He has a more proportionate body because he's just like, has a, he has like a 60 year old's belly and like, he wears like a big goal.

cross chain in between his like chest hair and he's tan as fuck so it's like yeah that dude just looks like a 60 year old fucking italian restaurant owner i look like an alien i legitimately look like an alien with my son with my skin situation going on right now my coloring i look like i i need to be hooked up to an iv and i need to be put in the hospital would you prefer your dad's body yeah probably he's got a huge belly like like a like a a problem like we're like you have to walk like you have to stop like you have to walk like you have to get out and move um i know you got everybody's busy that that band is i mean it's everybody's sort of side gig it's a fun thing you guys do i think you guys should do more show we've we practiced one time

before that show that's insane caroline met us for the first time on stage two hours before we went out there for the real thing we played one time through one song and she ended up playing two songs on the fucking show it's yeah the and the only reason we're able to do that is because PFT and Robbie are so fucking talented that they can just you tell them, hey, we're trying to play, what's my age again? And they just know the sound of it and they just play it. Like there's no music being read. There's no practicing.

It's just, yeah, I think I know the sound of that. Let's try it. Bang. How do you think you're singing went over? Because earlier in the day, you and I played golf and we played with Big Cat and Handsome Hank from PMT, which was a great day. You were nervous. It was awesome.

You were nervous that you were like, oh, my throat's getting a little scratchy. And we were like, it's all in your head because you do, would you sing two or three songs? I sang three songs, yeah. Wow. I mean, I don't know. How do you think it went? I was a little nervous about it. I was drinking tea before.

Some of the songs are like a little low for me, whatever. But I thought it's also really hard when you're there. And like it's loud and you feel like you have to sing over the crowd. And you don't realize that like the microphones are really loud and they're just going to project. So you can kind of sing softer into the mic and sing better. But then you feel like you have to project into the crowd. crowd and you don't actually do that. But I don't know. What did you think? I was pretty nervous about it.

I thought you sounded great. And you do have the benefit of you guys do songs that people know. The whole crowd sings with me. Oh, it's a chorus, the whole show. I sing Wagon Wheel, Wonderwall, and Truly Madly Deeply, which is just the most cold drinking songs of all time. That's a, that's a, I didn't know you had that one in your arsenal. Truly badly deeply. Oh, yeah. We kind of do like the accent, too. I'll be your dream. I'll be your wish out.

You know the one from the Premier League? Like that all those fucking Englishmen? I think, yeah, like your voice didn't crack. I didn't hear anything. There was never a moment where people were like, ugh. So I think you sounded great. Yeah, I appreciate that. I mean, yeah, it's a fucking joke of a band, but it's fucking fun.

It's fun. At the end of the day, like a band in a show is about entertainment. That's literally it. And you guys are insanely entertaining. 100%. Yeah, I want to do more, man. And like we get, it's, they're getting more people. people to show up to shows each time we do them.

Like, it's just, it's, it's a really fun thing to do that I want to just do a whole tour. But yeah, our travel's insane. Lurch, you would have loved it. I was talking about before, your man Sung J.M. At the Wyndham Championship with the behind the scenes crew and the tournament crew, they love him. Like I told a little story about kind of back of the day and there was a little bit of an issue. He arrived early and he had a whole crew with him.

And they were like nervous that he's going to be upset. They're trying to get him. and they put him in like kind of a rinked-ink hotel. And they said, now he only stays in that hotel chain because he loves it so much. And he just was the nicest guy in the world and waited around for like hours after his found around to personally thank the guy that like put him in the hotel. The guy's the best. I knew he's the best.

I knew he's world class. That's great to hear a story like that. They fucking love him there. Didn't win. But yeah, that guy's the best. I mean, he's an elite talent. He's the top five best player in the world. Well, that kind of spins us right into Tom Kim, this guy 20 years old who won.

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So this guy, Tom Kim, 20 years old, he would be either like a, I think they said, like, maybe a sophomore or junior in college, which is fucking outrageous to think about it. I mean, I know Phil Mickelson is pretty famous for being the most recent amateur to win on the PGA tour when he was, what, like a sophomore or junior at Arizona. And so for Tom Kim to go out there and light it up and shoot. And so he made a fucking quadruple bogey on his first hole of the entire tournament. This is such a good lesson about golf. So easy to get down on yourself and to just keep powering through.

Made a quadruple boge on his first hole. He's four over par at a tournament where you know you're probably going to need to be somewhere between 15 and 20 under to win the damn thing. And he ends up winning by five shots as a 20-year-old for his maiden victory on the PGA tour. I saw that he is kind of, oh, I think it was maybe Jason Sobel who tweeted this out. I can't remember exactly who, but said Tom Kim is the ninth PGA tour winner from Korea. Says the LPGA has had nine since the start of 2020. And just talking about how the, you know, Korean golf and the women's game is obviously taken over and starting to take over and really have a significant impact in a lot of their talent,

making it out on the PGA tour. But yeah, he apparently has a ton of character. I was talking with a couple different folks who were like, man, you guys got to get him on the show at some point because he's great. But Tom Kim comes out, wins the damn thing. five shots after absolutely fucking dominating yesterday on Sunday. Crazy to have the belief that you think you can do it. I mean, like, if one of us shoots a quad on the first hole, I just think like, well, now like 85, 90, 100s in the cards,

like anything at this point. And so to believe that you can come back, shoot under par and you finish with a 61 is just preposterous in terms of the turnaround of how good of golf game that is. Also, like my way of thinking prior to meeting Dr. Brett McKay would have been, I have to make four birdies just to eliminate that. one quad and like that's never happening today so my day's over so that would be um that's a really hard thing to overcome um but yeah because like a good mental thought person would be like all right

like i can make one bird and that turns into like a triple and i can make another one like we can kind of a couple pars and now that's like a bogey and a par you know what i mean so you can kind of move that around or you can just forget about the quad and just keep moving on with your day which is what he did you don't have to start fucking do a math or you just play two two off the first tee and then that quad is never exist because the next one you strike down the middle and make it easy for that's exactly what we would do exactly what we would do yeah it's good um i'm happy for tom kim congratulations to him i'm not super comfortable with someone being born in the 2000s starting to excel like that time is just slipping away fellas it's going it's going the wrong direction for guys like us you know what i mean like

yeah you guys born in 2002 i know exactly what i was doing in 2002 like i have very clear memories So it's like I'm happy for him, but I'm also, I feel like death's knocking on the door when a guy. Big time, dude. It's a problem. You're getting old as fuck, dude. I mean, he's super young, so it's not like this is the norm right now. He's born when? What?

He was born 2002? Yeah. Yeah. That was nine. It also just eliminates, like, your ability to like, if that guy's getting better at sports, I got to be on the other side that just clearly getting worse than everything that I do athletically. Of course. Every single thing.

Right. If he has the ability to compete at a high level, the highest of levels, win, then my age born in 87. I mean, I'm going to be dead here soon. Like if you were at the age now where I don't play pickup basketball, but if I were to play pickup basketball, I would be liable to blow out of me. That's the age of them at. Dude, I played in a tennis member guest this weekend.

We played like six different matches. I thought I was going to die seven different times. My whole left side of my back completely tightened up. I was had to use like the Farragone, like seven times, elucin up my body. I mean, it was a complete mess. I stretch way more these days. I've started to stretch because if I don't, I feel horrible.

What kind of stretches you doing? Yeah, I'm doing the post-sport stretch. What kind of stretches are you doing? No, just simple. Why are you laughing? No, I'm just because I don't know. I wasn't going to get specific, but literally it's not even. Get specific.

Go ahead. Downward dog. You doing yoga? No, I stretched you out good. Yeah, I have been doing a little bit of yoga. That feels good. But when I say stretching, it's not even like specific stretches that you would find on the internet. I just stretch my body.

I just stand and I stretch out. Maybe I try to touch the toes. Maybe I pick the up that counts. You just put your arms out. Like a baseball stretch. You do the arm across. You're just up. I don't know.

I did a podcast. It's a stretch police. I didn't know. I didn't know. I didn't know. The fucking police. I ripped you apart out of dread. Band and I had you ripping and stretching out there.

You just, all you're just kind of like, you're just kind of just, you're just stretching the body. That's what stretching is. It doesn't have to be something you find on YouTube. Dude, I would argue what you're doing right there is not stretching. That's just like, that's living. You were like kind of flapping. He was doing like the wannabe Michael Phelps, but he couldn't get around his like arms. Yeah, ever Michael Phelps used to touch.

That's stretching. You guys see that that is kind of stretching That's kind of stretching I agree with that You guys get to think outside the box When it comes of stretching It's it's literally just stretching parts of your body It doesn't have to be You know I'm warming up for an NFL football

I fucking twisted my ankle last night Walk into the ice cream social That my town was putting on Two blocks away dude Two blocks away at the park It's like it was the village night They had a band and ice cream they were handing out So we're like oh we're gonna go walk

So we walk down the block We make a left It's two blocks away, two blocks. And halfway through, I started limping. I'm like, ah, like something just wasn't working. I limped to go get this ice cream. Legitimately, like, they give me the soft serve. I take my little napkin and I limp off.

I'm like, that walk killed me. I mean, I'm now, I woke up this morning with a huge, huge ache in my ankle. And it just is what it is. Like, that's the life we're living now. It's bad. I don't, I, I've been thinking about it a lot. Like, in my early 20s. I could just take off and run.

I'm not even going anywhere. But if I just wanted to take off at a full sprint, that'd be fine. If I did that now, disaster. The wheels might actually come off. For the other night, I put on your highlight reel of your football, your football highlight reel, high school. And we were watching it. And like, we couldn't believe that was Trent.

Like, when you now know Trent, like you can't believe he was in those scenarios to like chase down a running back and tackle them and pop up and like give like for me like watching you give people high fives made me laugh like you just in like that like you doing like athletic things made me laugh really hard like i couldn't believe that was you like no i was trying to picture like your face doing that and i couldn't like were you making noises like grunting like tackling guys like like saying shit to them like fuck yeah like sit down bitch like were you fucking like in it like that's crazy to me i don't know about that last

part, but I was a, I was a high school football player. I love that shit. Like, I was just, I love, like, ripping people's heads off and just tackling people and doing the whole deal. I love that. And I had, like, a little bit of athleticism. That was nuts to watch. Is it on, it's on YouTube? That's where I watch it, right? Yeah. It is. Yeah. So, yeah, there's nothing more, I've been, like, a story I told, like, a month ago of, like, running from gate to gate and then getting there and Delta telling me, like, yeah, sorry, we left early and missed it. Like, there's nothing more embarrassing that you get off that plane and I'm like I'm going to make it I'm going to sprint and you make it like a third of the way there and then I just you just double over and you can barely see the stars oh dude is so brutal and you're like dude it's not that far and I just can't I literally move my body I have a question and like outside of clearly diet and we could all drop at least 15 pounds a couple of us a lot for yourself no I'm just saying like that's the bar for us like if we all drop 15 pounds and we're landfill over here could drop a fucking 50.

No, 100. Well, I said like for yourself, I'm in perfect athletic shit. What's something we should be doing that's going to keep us, like, again, outside of the normal stuff like running or elliptical or being better? Like, what's something that we could do that's going to keep us in better shape than just like buying a new water bottle that we think is going to change our lives? It's, I think the number one thing is diet. Dude, Tren just avoided everything that the doctor says that you have to do. I was going to say, avoiding what else on the table, exercising. Yeah, there's like what else do you.

I mean, I don't know. Those are the two things. That's like what you have to do, I think. Let me tell you some. I tried those other things and I don't like them. So I want something to do. Dude, I got to cut out like gluten and carbs and like you just have to like eat nothing. There's got to be a more fun version.

Do a little cardio. I think if you do like. Ten minutes of cardio a day. Huge. You would go forever. Like, you would change. It's a fucking, I got to turn that thing on. Things got dust on it.

Just got to be a more fun version of these things that like, I'm just. Nothing, man. High school. When you're on a treadmill, it's like, this is fucking stupid. Peloton the world's most expensive fucking clothes hanger. It's just, I got to get that thing. I got to get that thing moving. Dude, I feel like it's that for so many people.

My stepbrother, I was talking to him. He was like, I bought this thing. don't even think about using it. We have it in its own room. We have it in its own room with windows all around it. It's ready to be used. Fucking doesn't. Haven't turned it honest since we lived here.

I would love to know the statistics on that. Like somebody buys one. First month, people are ripping through the Peloton. Second month, the usage of that thing. Dude, I had like a 10-day streak and I got like a confetti who came on my phone or something like that. I have not written it since. Dave made a funny video like two weeks ago where he was he was like walking up and down his driveway with him five pound dumbbells or whatever. And then later that night he made a gold now just being like working out is not for me.

And I could not agree more with that. Like this is what I mean. Like when I played football, like we just practice was football and that was fun. And like you're fucking people up. And then you play and you end up being in the best shape of your life. Nowadays they throw a treadmill out of you. They throw a stationary bike at you. And it's just like, this is not fun at all.

So I don't want to do it. High school football was awesome. That's like maybe the best high school. There are things that you can do like that. Like you can join like I play intermural hockey. Like that's like the greatest workout of all time. Like like Lurch to do a tennis. Like playing tennis.

That shit's amazing for you. Okay. You never get to sweat doing anything other than stuff like that. Like go join a fucking basketball league. What if you join like a flag football league or something, trap? All right. Now we're talking.

And these are the things that I'm talking about. Dude, that'd be great. You'd be amazing in flag football. Are you fucking kidding? Well, learn I play tennis. We can go. We have tennis right here by our house. We can go fucking play tennis at the ball to each other.

It's such a good workout. We just got to figure out some other way because the boring ones I'm just never, ever going to do consistently ever. For the birds, dude, we're not going to it. We're not gym people. Look at this. Look at this crew here. You fucking kidding me.

I will say, I don't know if it's the case for UT, but I think the toughest thing for me is to like get the ball like get my motor moving like the hardest part is to put on the peloton cleats and like get on the bike and actually spin the thing around but once you're doing it you kind of get into it and you're like i even revert back to me like dude i'm athletic like i can run i'm not pathetic and then i try to like get more like i played tennis the other night with my buddy who's a far better athlete than i am as kid stevie bower and we finished with just suicide wind sprints at the end where there's like four courts in a row yeah and we touched every line to close and I thought at that point I was going to pass out and just die because stopping and

starting and in hockey it was the same way wearing goalie pads especially having to stop and start but like when you're jogging you kind of get in the like it's almost like running downhill especially when you're fat and you like lean over your feet it's like you almost just have to play catch up but actually stopping on a line bending over and touching it it's a really good workout but like I think the hardest part like you and frankie should go play tennis at the end, if you're kind of like feeling that mojo and you're like, dude, I'm kind of digging the sweat. Just finish it with a suicide, dude. It does feel good at the end of the day when you're done. You're like, I'm all right. I did that yesterday. I was doing yard work. I planted four flowers and all

these like hibiscus bullshit. And I was fucking exhausted, digging in the ground, breaking. At the end, bro, I felt the juice. I pumped out like 35 pushups. Let's go. Yes. Yeah. I was just like, I was thinking my My muscles are already, like, ripped or whatever, torn because I've lifted a million heavy things today that they're already, like, they need one last push to actually have, like, because I don't think doing yard work is enough of a workout to, like, do anything. But I think what I did at the very end, did something. Yeah. Did something. I agree with that. And then I talked to my neighbor for like the first time ever, and I had no shirt on.

And he looked at me, he's like, dude, he goes, this is your place? like he goes uh it's up man he's like uh this your spot and I'm looking down I'm like covering my nipples I'm like hold on let me just go get let me go get my girl real quick because she'll talk to you like I'm just like

I don't I can't have like a man to man neighbor conversation right now I'm exposed like my belly's out and then at the end he goes he goes yeah it might rain out here so you can get out of the sun for a little bit because he saw how fucking I burnt my arms wear.

God. It was a bad interaction. He was a bad interaction, but he's a very nice guy. It's nice to finally meet like my neighbor, have been here forever. Wow. All right. The opposite of all this is watching TV,

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Her husband, I think it was her husband. They kept showing him on TV. He was making me laugh out loud, how fired up and into it he was. But I think it was a four-hole playoff that her and NG Chun had just like as really as good as it gets, as high pressure as it gets. There were some huge puts made. Ui actually, I kind of was choking it away all day, just didn't have her best stuff. She teed off with a pretty good lead.

I think she shot like 75, made like a four, five, six foot or whatever it was in the 72nd hole to get into the playoff. I always find that impressive. Like we were just talking about Tom Kim, you know, starting with a quad and then coming back and winning by five, I always find like when you're struggling, somebody's struggling all day and the momentum's not in their favor. It feels like them coming down the stretch going into a playoff, like they're just going to lose.

That person never wins. And she's somehow batted out out. played damn well on the playoff hit a lot of good shots it was getting colder and colder in the 18th hole's like 430 yards hard hole bunkers left and right um she hit the fairway every fucking time um hit a bunch of good shots and then ultimately had a sick up and down uh on the fourth again i think it was the fourth playoff hole a bunker shot that's just like in that range that none of us have like none of us have she's like in that kind of weird circular bunker they have on like the far away part of it so you got to go over another part of the bunker and then the pins on the far side of the green up over a knob. Somebody had a great response to kind of my tweet about it. That was like this, this shot always for me begins with like heads up over there. And you're trying to take like this full swing. You don't know if maybe you should use like a gap wedge or something because it's that far of a shot. And she hit it to like six inches to win the goddamn thing. So just an iconic shot from her fun to watch down the stretch. So shout

out to her winning the AIG women's open. Muirfield. Iconic. It's crazy. Golf is still just being played over there. You know what I mean? Like, we left the air so long ago and, like, iconic golf is still just being played over there. It's such a great spot for the game of golf. It's insane. You can be able to watch all that on TV and see just how cool those courses are. It's amazing.

I just fucking love it. And, like, I feel like a piece of me, Scotland will always be with me. Like, it's like, I'm always wearing the belt now, the Carnoustie belt, and I have all the little ball markers. Like, it just made such an impact on. on me that like I didn't think it would going in. Like I had expectations that it would, but it really, like I talk about it every day.

And people ask me about it every day. It's like it's that thing. You've done the pilgrimage. You know, it's like you've done the pilgrimage. No, my scorecard holder is from Carnust. I look at that thing and I'm like,

that's just like part of it. Like we did, it's like a write of passage as guys who have been golfing forever. Like, yeah, we went to the spot. We went there, played a bunch of golf. It's pretty amazing.

And what's crazy is we got to go back and play the other spot. Like, there's like, love to. True. and St. Andrews and Mirfield. Hundreds of other places, fucking,

so good. What's that place that, where they, Renaissance. I hate the way they say that. The Renaissance. I stayed,

so I stayed, I went to a wedding in Toledo over the weekend. That's where I'm not right now. I'm in Toledo. Holy Toledo. Dude,

so holy Toledo. I went to Abby Leavidda. She, USGA, used to work for Imperial and title as she does for the lady. She's,

awesome. So a lot of people in the golf world probably know Abby. And her husband, Brendan, they actually live in Piner's now. He works for Titleists. They're fucking awesome. Two of my favorite people. But anyways, we went to a wedding in Toledo. Great time. It was at Inverness where the Solheim Cup was last year. Tons of history. Scott Jeremy's shown me around the entire spot, giving me tour just insane history that they have there. But anyways, the hotel that was kind of the hotel blocked off wedding was the Renaissance. And I checked in and was like, oh, yeah, I'm here for the Renaissance. And I just like, good Melbourne. People were looking at. going to be like I was a fuck crazy person was like oh you guys over at the renaissance i just

kept saying at the wedding yeah i don't like i don't like that uh pronunciation renaissance i mean we can say renaissance who gives a fuck i mean we can say whatever you look yeah dude i'm at hon are you talking the hotel right on the river in teledo yeah that's literally where i'm at and if i turn there's the flowers are still in this meeting room and that's got to be from just the wedding you were at no way it has to be dude i will say That is, wedding spot. There's like, there were, insanity.

That is really weird. Dude, we should let that sing in for a second about fucking weird. Hold on. Hold on. The spot where the entrance, the entrance is chaos.

There's like a million cars coming in out of that place. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Big valet circle right on the main drag. Those flowers on the morning. I literally told her Uber out there yesterday morning. What do you fucking about?

Let me just. I mean, this, this is just from the wedding. I mean. It looks like flowers from the wedding. that. That is low key. Like, we didn't know that Lurch was in Toledo.

We had no idea. Blue in this morning. That's like the craziest thing that's ever happened, ever. Yeah, that's a weird one. That's a weird one. Your footprints might have, like, covered my footprints. Are you going to next thing to, like, pull out a piece of cake from the way? Be like, oh, here we are.

Is this how you get in shape? No. All right. Let me see if I have a fucking. Let me see if I have a fucking picture from like, I'm going to show you this picture alert from my hotel room that I took the other day. I mean, there has to be room.

Do you guys in the same room? I'm going to lose my room. No, no, I'm not staying here tonight. I just came in here because I was driving. It has to be like the view that you're looking at right now. Is that like you're pretty similar to that view?

Yeah. I mean, so I just, I was driving up from Toledo Police Department, pulled in and because it was like I'm going to jump on. So I just came to this hotel and said, hey, do you have a meeting room? I could jump in.

They put me in this meeting room and there's wedding flowers. So you're not staying at that hotel? No, no, no, no. This is fucked. So you just happen to enter that room. Right. I just happen to walk into the room

where the flowers are sitting. Right. Okay, I can't handle this. It's fucking weird, man. That's fucking weird. What a world. That's fucking nuts. That is a little bit strange, dude.

Those flowers are starting to creep me out of me out. Right. Like, that's the host of Riggs's weekend. Like, it's just sitting there. Like, no offense. No offense at a hotel, but you would think, like, they would clear out the flowers. I mean, it was only a day or a day and a half. Staffing issues.

Everybody's got staffing issue. All right. Yeah. We're in a weird spot right now. Dude, do you remember when my, uh, remember when I was, like, flying from Arizona to Pinehurst to, like, meet with a general contractor? And I was telling the guy in the seat next to me. And as the person in the aisle was walking by, they were like, oh, I'm that general contractor. And I was like, I do remember that.

What? I do. And it was. And that guy now for like a year has been my guy. That's just who that's the guy. I do remember that. It reminds me of that. Just like fucking weird.

Dude, so many cities you could be in. I have those moments all the time to the point where I think that's why the whole thing is revolving around me. It's my story. You guys are just like characters. But like we're like shout out to our guy, Coley who's, I don't know what's going on with him, but he went on the Dave Portnoy show. I don't know if he's still working here.

It isn't working here. Love that guy. It's like on the trading block kind of. Trading block. I don't know. But when that was all happening, I was talking to Nate Dogg, who also does the editing and he does all of the stuff behind the blog. And I was like, oh, like, we were sitting in the office and I was just like, oh, like, have you talked to Erica yet? And he's like, no, I actually haven't like, I haven't talked to her yet.

And as he said that, he's like, hold on and like looked at his phone. And his phone was ringing and said, Erica on it. And it was just like, I was like, dude, when's the last time Erica called you? He was like a month ago. Like, that was, the odds of that were astronomical. So yeah, it's just that was another moment. I was like, yeah, just check that off the list. It's my story.

That's fucking weird, man. Really weird. Blurt, are you ready for something? Hit it. Look at these fucking shoes G4 sent me. Fucking banana. Look at those things. They are a giant banana.

Dude, I don't wear. I was like, I don't know. And now I love them. You can wear those when you hit your banana slice. It'll be a whole little bit. I don't, I don't hate that. It might be a day when I'm coming up. Yeah, dude, they sent me these.

They're pretty aggressive, but I think I'm going to try to rock up today. Fucking Riggsie Bananas, dude. You kidding me? Joey Bananas. Shout out to Antirot. All right. And then last thing I want to say is Colum Tarrin, our guy, he got brought up somewhere in the show. I can't remember.

But I looked. I just looked it up. I think he's 112th in the FedEx Cup. Great for him. That means he's kind of, you know, he made the play. So he'll have a chance to advance and he's got status going into next year. So our guy, shout out to him. He's been playing well this entire summer.

Love that fucking dude. He was, he cracks me up. He was messaging me. I didn't end up running into him. But he was messaging me just throughout the week at the Wyndham and was like, where he at? And he's trying to, we're trying to hook up.

Didn't end up happening. But we stayed in touch. I'm sure he's been chat with you guys too. He was fucking awesome on the show. And yeah, he's a great guy to root for. I always tell people a story about him like leading the U.S. Open and never being on TV and all of his pals being like,

dude, they won't show you. And he's like, no, they try it. I just play too fast. I don't wait for the camera. So funny. Before we go, I think, before we throw it to the interview, I think Jake Bass wants to give a shout out to somebody. I want to give a shout out to my buddy, Josh, my college roommate, my roommate in New York,

made his first ever home and one at the Standard Club. Seven iron, seven iron, 145. He was playing with his dad. And I was out to dinner with my parents last night. And I said, you should have been to us for drinks. And he shot me over 30 bucks. So I paid for me and my dad's. me and my dad's cocktails.

And Jake Bass was showing us a picture before we came on and he jarred it. He just straight jarred the whole and won. Just on the fly. Yeah, I'm texting in the group chat right now. Wow. That's an amazing. Good for him. Those are always wild because you can't, you actually don't get the confirmation that you,

that you need because you don't get to watch it roll in there. That happened to my boy Pete at Aaron Hills. Same deal. You're kind of like, whoa, where to go? Did it fly into a bunker or something? So that's a fucking shot. I mean, talk about your yardage being. He flew it in the hole.

Flew in the fucking hole, too, for the rest of the day. So good. Yeah, we give a shoutout, hole in one shoutouts on this. My dad got one a few months back. Now, Jake's buddy, never happens to us, but it happens to other people. Never. It will never happen to us. Gary has multiple, or was that his first one?

Well, that was his first one. The other one, he made a hole in one at St. Andrews on the simulator. Yeah, that's right. The San Andreas and Crapids, the real home of golf. But the one he made in Arizona was his first one in real life. Incredible. Yeah, we can't start. We're always here for a whole-in-one.

Whole-in-one shotouts on this show we're going to give every time. So, Greg. What's your boy's name again there, Jake Bass? Josh Lou Bell. Josh & Bell. Congrats. Sounds like a famous name. Is there a person?

It does. Jason Isbell? Maybe. Josh Lou Bell, Jason Isbell. I think that's right. I got to get downstairs. I'm doing a back splash on a wall. We have like a little bar going in and we got this peel and stick back splash.

But it's like usually it's like a subway tile. So it's easy. You peel it up. You go on it. It looks kind of like real tile. Right. It's like it's kind of a small wall behind a TV. So we didn't think it'd be a fucking problem.

When I tell you guys, this motherfucking peel and stick tile is the worst thing that's ever happened to me ever. I mean, it's like stone. So it's real stone. So in parts that you have to like cut them, the stone cracks throughout the whole thing because it's like flimsy and it's like this. got as adhesive. So you put it on and it's the most sticky thing you've ever felt in your fucking life ever. So then you get, so then you fucking have it in the wrong spot and you can't

get it off the wall. So now you're ripping the wall off and the fucking, the whole wall's coming with it. The paint, the everything. It's all, it's, I had to walk away. People that are helping me now says at one point they go, why don't you take, why don't you take a walk and cool off? That's what they said to me. They go, why don't you just take a walk and cool off? Went to go fucking. We ripped one off. I said, I'm fucking putting this thing back on. And it connected on either side.

So the whole thing was unusable. Because, you know, when you do that with tape, like one end, we'll hit another. And now you're fucked. And then I just threw it on the grass. I said, I'm done. I'm done. You guys fucking do this. I'm fucking done.

So they're down there right now. Get your next thorough neighbor over there to help you. Yeah, fucking Doug. He thinks I'm a pathetic piece of shit probably. Backsplash, huge focal point on house hunters. I feel like everybody's like, hey, you know, I kind of like the kitchen

but the back splashes and they just fucking love talking about back splashes. And now we've got a seam. I'm like, I can see where the top and the bottom meet me and there's a seam.

They're like, oh, we'll just fix that in with some caulking. I'm like, everything's fixed with caulking now that I've realized. Like,

if the fucking light isn't flush, oh, we'll cock it. Oh, if it doesn't go to the end of the wall, we'll cock it. Is cauling like the best tool of all time? Like, the best thing to use of all time?

It's just like a melt. You just kind of like melt things together with Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's what I figured. It's like when you don't do something's like, oh, there's a little gap there. We can get this color of cock and just kind of slab it in there and smear it. And then you can't really tell. It's done.

Dude, my whole house is a bunch of you. You're not going to be able to tell the whole house. Like, because we've kind of like, like everything's like you'll never tell in like a week. You don't get it. And it's true. Like I've stressed over so many little things. Dude. I made this guy paint this wall four times because I'm like, you know, we could

still see the strokes and he's like you'd be horrible to work for i mean i can't imagine no the guy the guy the guy knew what i was saying is like i don't know why you could still see it was a square of where you could see the paint and we ended up figuring out because like that's where they like they like patched up the hole so like that's not the same fucking so it was darker there or something it's just darker there and like we kept trying and then like dude now i don't even notice it yeah i was there i was there early on when you guys moved in and you guys got a rug and i helped you put a rug down in the dining room and you were like the sides uneven and we put it down

we measured it out and it looks perfect and you're like that sides uneven that's gonna keep me up tonight and I was like dude it looks fine do not worry about it I don't know if you ended up

trying to fix it but you were like that was like your main focus for the next three hours and then the rug is uneven when people tell me it's fine I just under my breath I'm like you know it's just my house and I just want it to look good

but I guess it's fine to you then it's fine to me I'm like if it's fine to you I guess I have to be fine to me right like if you just don't want to fix it I guess I have to just live with it for the rest of my life you get to leave here and then I have to just look at it.

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That's funny. I actually, yeah, that is the code. I actually thought they were saying use promo code token like the like it was a token that you were using. Right. You were actually going to type in. And I was like, that's kind of an interesting way to say it. That like somebody's using a to like, it almost makes you feel special. Like you have a special token. but instead that's just the wrong words. It's the name of a different podcast on this network. So to be clear, and I want to be crystal clear, if you're using upside, use the code four so that we get credit for.

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He's out. He was all teary-eyed, which I understand. He's been doing it forever. He's been there for some monumental moments. Sir Nick is out. Trevor Immleman is in. So a great run from Sir Nick Fowdo. Fowdo Farm.

It sounds like he's just going to literally go off into the pasture and hang out with his girl and his family and do whatever the hell he wants, which is probably what you should do when you're rich and successful and you just don't want to do the coverage anymore. So shout out to Sir Nick. Great run. All right. Without further ado. One thing, I know we're probably running along here, but one thing that Sir Nick said, and this isn't, I mean, it's not that big a deal, but he used a similar line that I used in the one best man speech that I've ever given.

And now I'm starting to think that, like, I thought it was a great line, but maybe people are using this line all the time. He said, I'm an only child, Sir Nick said, but I've gained three brothers up here in this broadcast with all the guys that he does to work with. I use that same line in my best man speech. My buddy, my best friend growing up from home is an only child. And I said, you may be an only child, but all you've got, you know, seven brothers up here because of how many people were up there. And it made me think that the line that I thought I came up with is something that people

use all the time when they were giving a speech about an only child. Or you think you came up with that line. I would say that's one of like the most used lines and best man speeches. Oh, I didn't know that. You obviously looked that up, right? No. Dude, you've obviously heard that. Everybody uses that line.

I got a new sister with a sister-in-law. No, no, no. But I'm saying specifically the only child, the single only child line. I think for weddings of a man as an only child, I think it's a pretty common line. I think I've actually heard that. Maybe the most used line. I think I've heard that one. I'd be curious to know.

You're crushing Trent right now, man. You're just crushing them. I was like when I came and it crushed in the room. When I used that at the wedding, people started falling out of their chairs. They were crying so hard. But I'm wondering at weddings, if you've gone to a wedding where the bride of the groom is an only child, how many times have you heard that line? If you've heard it, hit me up.

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We have sweatpants. They were like sweat pant joggers coming out with the B-cross tea right there like below the pocket. They look fucking awesome also. How comfy are those things, man? Perfect color too. It's like a truck. I chose to sit right here with you schmucks for a couple hours and they're just as comfy as can be.

Make sure that you are ready to go for whenever we release this. I don't know if it's going to be like a 10 a.m. drop. Oh, I love that blue with like the tar. That's beautiful. that little Carolina Blue on there? I don't know if it's going to be 10 a.m. 12 p.m. There's going to be a time that we're going to be tweeting out. You have to be ready for it.

These things are going to go fast, especially the hoodies and the quarter zips. You have to be ready for that stuff. That stuff goes quick in all your sizes. So when we get these DMs saying, how come there's no double XLs or XLs available? Well, they all fucking went like 20 minutes into the sale. So just be ready for it. And then you're going to have your stuff ready to go for this fall.

It's, I'm really proud of this line. I know that we're going to have huge fall. 10 a.m. Eastern. 10 a.m. Eastern on Wednesday. Dude, I'm really proud of this because we're getting away from just a huge bar stool golf across everything. I love that stuff. I think it's like the OG stuff.

And it's like when people wear it in bars and to stadiums and to fucking golf events, you can see it. This is a logo. Like the stuff we're putting on now is like, holy shit, what's that? Like you don't, it's a little understated. You can show up to a bar with it. You're not specifically wearing. like big barstool merch it's like it's different it's our stuff it's it's branded smaller i think the merch team fucking killed it this year i think we're gonna have a huge huge was alison saul

crowd surfing on saturday alison saw the whole crew was out there we had alison saw we had palar in the crowd we had justin mancini i mean that i just love everything about that guy yeah dude look at those things just understated so sharp are those unreal also yeah yeah and unreal dude unreal like puts really really good quality into all their clothes now like it's nothing nothing to sneeze at as as kids like to say i was hanging out michael jordan in minnesota that guy's the man mj i'm j um yeah you get it yeah no i'm pumped so wednesday i'm i'm really excited to see what people think about this because it's like it's just a really good high quality launch like there's not going to be one piece of merchandise that people get that they're

me like, ah, this is shitty. The only thing I would say is that maybe the unreal quarter zips, if you think it's, if you think you don't like things tight, go a size up. That's the only thing I would say. Yeah, if you've got more of an us body than like, you're not in the NHL. Yeah. You might want to go a size up. They're a little bit tight, but they're just like an athletic. They're athletic fits. So like that's just us giving you a heads up. Like, because that's the only thing I can, I can see us getting DMs about being like, oh, it's a little tighter on the belly. Well, if you know you have a belly, just go one size up and it's going to fit perfect. So, I'm excited to see what you guys say.

Tweet at us, DM us. We'll suck on your little. Store.com, 10 a.m. Eastern on Wednesday. Go check him out. Here is Mark Hubbard, who was an excellent guest, live from Memphis for the first playoff event.

All right, folks, we're joined for the first time. Mark Hubbard, he's a veteran out there on the pro circuit. He went viral a few weeks ago for a great reason overall, one of the more interesting reasons I've ever seen.

But we'll start from the beginning. You're, you know, we got the beginning of FedEx Cup playoffs here. You're in Memphis. I've been to Memphis once. It was for a bachelor party. And Beale Street. I'm from St. Louis. It was like a four-hour drive.

Wasn't that crazy, but we'd never been. We went. And it was fucking chaos. You guys were about ready to play a PGA tour event there, which would be a different experience. Yeah, I'm staying by the course for sure for the tournament. But, yeah, I, I dabbled a little last night. And it's a fun town.

I mean, it definitely reminds me. New Orleans or Nashville. And yeah, it was a good, good time. Lots of live music, lots of drinks flowing. It was good. Is that one on the Bachelor Party circuit? Like, I feel like it jumps, right? It jumped from Vegas to Nashville, a little bit of Austin, like those type of places.

Memphis, although Riggs just said he went on a Bachelor party, that's one where I feel like it's not a hot bet of Bachelor parties yet, but it probably will be. Yeah, I haven't heard of it, but I definitely would recommend it would be a good one. Do you just listen to that song by Mark Cohen all the time walking in Memphis? Tell me you listen to it since you've been there. I haven't, but he actually, I'm from Colorado, and he did a concert in Colorado, and that was where he got shot and was in a coma for like three or four months.

Did you know about that? In Memphis? Yeah, there was a car. He was in a carjacking and got shot in the head. No, in Colorado. He did a show and got shot in the head and survived and was in a coma for like three months in Colorado. Crazy. Look it up.

Wow. I know. I'm going to give that a Wikipedia when we're done for sure. You're a Denver guy, right? So you're all jacked up. You got the Aves Championship. They look like they're on the precipice of what some people are calling a dynasty with that fucking team with Cal and Car. I mean, you got a blues fan here, so he's not going to agree with.

They're fucking good, man. They are good. You know what I was talking to someone? I was talking to hockey player the other day about like their makeup. And it's because like their front office is made up of players that like know what players want as opposed to like some GMs or some owners like just have no idea what's going on. they never played the game, maybe they were like coaches or whatever. Like there's a difference between when you know what a player wants and like a Devon Taves acquisition. Not a lot of people thought that he'd be the right pick, but they legitimately knew he would be exactly what Cal McCar needed.

So it's like really interesting to see that that's how they made that team together. Are you an abs fan? I am, yeah. Yeah, I'm all Colorado sports. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's a, we're looking for the right players, not the best ones for sure. Right. We'll see.

I don't know. It hasn't really, it hasn't really. It hasn't really worked out with my Broncos, though, with Elway in the front office. So we'll see. Hopefully, Russell will change that. Broncos, let's ride. Isn't that what he said? The Russell Wilson, where it was going viral, where he was like, let's ride.

And they just kept making him say that. It's most embarrassing should have ever seen him. Yeah, hopefully he's better on the field than he is on. It's like, Trent, you haven't seen this yet? It's a green screen video of him saying, let's ride. And they're just like. It's like Madden, right? Yeah, it's so bad.

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. So also, though, you get, it's weird how, like, coaching isn't that way, right? I mean, like, Wayne Gretzky and you get these guys that coach and it just doesn't work out. But I do, I do feel like GM is more, right? Like, it makes sense because, like you said, a player in the locker room who's been in a locker room his whole life understands kind of the type of person that you want, which is the opposite of money ball, right? I mean, everybody always talks about money ball and stats and you got to put to it where it's probably somewhere in the middle. It feels like there's like a blend.

And unfortunately, I think. Frankie's right. Like the abs seem to have fucking found it. Because there's a lot of teams with a lot of skill, but that team is relentless, man. When they just keep coming and keep coming and keep coming, it's infuriating to play against. Yeah, they're just so fast.

I mean, more than anything, just watch them skate around people. It's so fun to watch. I think, I don't know, I think the coaching thing is just kind of one step removed. Like as a coach, you probably, I don't know, need a different perspective.

But yeah, in the office, I feel like you're one step removed. you're not right there, but you have the players interest in mind. I mean, even from a golf level, like having Jason Gore now with the USGA, like that's a perfect example where it's just, yeah, it's the perfect scenario. It is funny. Like, that's a really good point because I haven't, I feel like I haven't in the last few years since they hired Jason Gore, heard much pitching, whereas leading up to then,

we had Zach Johnson with Dave, the loss control of the golf. We had everything by Bryson at Chinatcock was like this guy, everybody was bitching. And I feel like for the last couple years, we ever heard much bitching. Yeah, yeah. I mean, obviously, I haven't played a ton of USGA events. I've just played the one open at Wingfoot. But, yeah, I mean, I definitely agree. I think it's been a different tune.

And they're just kind of hearing our concerns. And, I mean, all it really was was about setup. And from a player standpoint, if you got a player looking out for that, it's going to get better. What do you think of, what do you think of setups in general, tour setups? I mean, you guys are out there week. a week. We haven't been to a ton of tour events. We started going a lot more in the last

year or so I was at Windham this last week. We've played a few pro-ams now, so you kind of start to understand, week in and week out, you know, from your vantage point, I mean, it feels like there's a pretty big difference between Corn Ferry Tour, between Canadian Tour, like the difficulty. What do you think overall, do you have a lot of takes on kind of course setups for tour events? Yeah, I mean, there's definitely a huge difference. I think that's the biggest difference between the tours. I mean, because the competition is still really good down there. but just the courses are set up so much differently, so much harder. Greens are so much firmer and faster.

Pin locations are tougher on tour. That's kind of the adjustment coming from tour to tour. And I think that's just because we have more control over it on the PGA tour, whereas, you know, there's not the same amount of money and sponsors on the lower tours to kind of shut down the course for a couple weeks coming into it. I mean, I think it's tough. It's a constant battle. I think as players, we would love to see it, you know, 15 to 18.

under win every week and that requires pretty firm and fast conditions with rough. But at the same time, you know, you're trying to sell the best product and it's not, you know, you like seeing carnage during the U.S. Open, but the rest of the time you kind of want to see birdies, that kind of in between, which is where we love is not maybe the best product for TV. So it's always going to be a battle in terms of what we want and what we would prefer versus what's going to make the best product. Yeah, it is a, I think you're right. I think that sweet spot, for us as fans, like 15 to 18 under, right? Like I feel like that's, if somebody's playing really well and they're hot,

they can shoot low 60s, but it's right on that edge of if you're a little bit off. I mean, you can watch really good players shoot 75. You know, it's like really not that hard to do out there. But that's got to be from, I mean, we've done, Frankie does a lot with behind the greens and understanding turf crews now and what on. That is really, really difficult to get a golf course on that fine line. and like we just talked about with USGA, if you fuck it up, people will lose their minds and then all of a sudden you're an asshole. Yeah, yeah, for sure.

But I mean, I think it shows. I think, you know, every year we do surveys for what our favorite tournaments are. And then, you know, you see, you know, courses like the one we're playing this week in Memphis, you know, used to be just a regular season event. Then it went to a WGC and now it's a playoff event. And it's for that reason. It's a course it's easier to kind of get in those conditions where, you know, nine to 15 under could win. And those, of course, we love, you know, Travelers is.

getting more popular every year for that same reason. Like it's always, you know, 15 to 20. It's just perfect conditions. You know, RIV's always been my favorite event of the year for that same reason. So, I mean, I think the courses kind of shine through the ones that are easier to set up that way. Riviera might get, might get it's like Dick shocked the most of any golf course in the world by PGA tour players. People love that place. Yeah.

I mean, even before Tiger's event, it was always amazing. I'm biased because my brother lives like eight minutes away. So it's just a super fun event for me. But I think I personally, my favorite part of golf is just kind of the imagination part and the recovery part. And so I like courses where, you know, you can shoot 80 hitting every single shot. Like there's really not any hazards or out of bounds on that course. There's a little bit, but, you know, it's not like Honda where you could just re-tee on every hole. So, I mean, that course gives you a chance.

If you hit it out of play, you can recover. You can, you know, use your imagination. You can hit a ton of different shots. and I think that's what golf is all about for me. So I think that's why I get so much praise. It's almost more infuriating, man. You're like, especially for guys like us, you come off the green, you add it up. It's a seven.

And you're like, dude, I didn't lose a ball. Like I have, I just, it was right in front of me the whole time. And I just, it just took me that many tries to get it. Yeah. I mean, there's no, there's no BS. You either hit the shot and it's good or you get penalized for it. So it's just the perfect course. How often do you go back and when you're playing a golf course?

and think about all the shots that you missed? Or do you ever say, like, well, I made a couple ones that I usually don't. Like, I've been playing the best golf of my life recently, and like we'll get off the green, and I'll say, thank you very much. I went from a 10-6 to a 5-6. Franks and Frankie's coming out. You'll see how I dropped fucking, yeah, I dropped fucking 5 points. It's very legit.

Three months. Three months. You're probably not getting invited to many tournaments now, though. No, it's a night. Well, now I'm getting all these texts. Brock Nelson just sent me a text saying, holy smokes, I get two strokes off you now and I'm nine, four and one against you. Everybody wants to play. Everybody.

They're nuts. I'm walking off the 18th green being like, holy shit. I just had 76, ball and hole. And I missed like five birdie puts like throughout the day. Like this could have been a 70 or 71. But then I think I chipped in on 14 and I hit the perfect drive of all time on 11. Like there's things that like you go back and forth. When you're playing in a professional golf tournament, are you thinking about those things or are you just kind of going with the flow and taking whatever you get. Yeah, I mean, I think I've gotten better at that. I mean, golf is obviously so infuriating because you lose a million times more than you win. Even when you shoot 65, you know, it still feels feels like you left some out there. And it's just you can't perfect

it no matter how good you get. That's one of the reasons I love it. But it's also one of the reasons why I'm down in Beale Street last night, you know, having a million beer. So, you know, I think, you know, I think I've gotten better at that. And if you really do look at it, I am a believer that it kind of evens itself out. You know, you'd lip as many putts in as you lip out. And you just kind of kind of look at that way. I think if you don't, you'll just drive yourself crazy. Right.

And that kind of bleeds into what you went viral for where you hit a shot and kind of instantly got mad, slam your club down the ground. The ball goes in. It's a hole in one. It's like one of the greatest moments of all time. So talk us through a little bit about what happened there and like how it went from just disaster to the greatest moment. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I was just so stuck all day. Like everything was missing right.

I think I had probably dropped the club full Hadeki on four of my last six shots. Just like, but those obviously had missed right, miss the green right or off the tee in the rough. And for whatever reason, that one I guess I like kind of flipped six. And I, you know, I thought it was right of the right bunker. And I looked up and it's five yards right of the pin drawing back. And I'm just like, that's why I initially was like, oh, that's embarrassing. Because I knew I was being a dick and a baby. And, you know, and then I looked up and Wyndham was great about it.

I was playing with, you know, some buddies. So that was good. And he immediately was like, if that goes in. And of course, that's the reason it went in. If he hadn't said anything, no chance. But he, he manifested that pretty, it was pretty cool. It's like it's the most embarrassing version of what everyone doesn't want to do on the course I did the same thing the same week you did it I was at Shinnock with a member first time ever

playing that course obviously walking on eggshells I hit a shot and I literally screamed get down you suck and the ball I just missed I just missed like the depth perception and the ball sat on the edge of the hole and he looked at me he's like now you're three up like I got like why are you like dancing on my grave right now I'm like dude I thought it was way over I don't know I'm not the wind. Even when Hadecki does it. And like you said, he's famous for it. You just called the Hadecki now.

But his ball never goes in. It lands, you know, eight feet, 10 feet. It's a dart usually. But his ball never goes in. So for your ball to go in, that's what makes it so goddamn fun of it. Yeah. I mean, he's a different level. That's just how good he hits it where, you know, his worst shots are still pin high 20 feet.

But yeah, I don't know, better luck, better luck than good. I'm a fan of being on that side as opposed to the other. We usually get mad at JT and speed for doing the club twirl and then the ball misses the green by 15 yards. And like when you're gambling on a greener regulation, these guys are club twirling their dicks off and the ball's like in the water. You're like, well, that's insane. Imagine gambling on that shot where you watch him get all fucking pissed off. You're like, no! And then the ball goes in the hole.

That reaction would have been all time for us had we had action on that green regulation or like closest to the pen. Yeah, we got to think about that with all the real-time gambling now. You have to think about that because you have people living and dying on fairways hit and greens and regulation. You have to be thinking about your reaction because the camera is on you, like, for your first shot. So you're like, if you give me like a sigh, I'm dead. I'm already walking towards the bathroom, like, screaming and like freaking out. Yeah, it's all about the reaction. I'm the worst.

I feel like I'm going to get worse at it now. I feel like I'm going to mess with people now that up. Do you club twirl or do you keep a like pretty consistent? consistently or do you try to only do it on a moment where you know it's drops and spikes as clubs, Trent, come in. Yeah. It's always good. Yeah, I wish I got as happy as I do mad. I'm trying to be more even keel. I definitely feel like I'm on the emotional golfer end, which I think is something that makes me good, but it's also, you know, my kryptonite sometimes. So I'm trying to keep it a little more level-headed. Is there a, is there a concerted effort, especially as you

you get more and more into the professional game about your energy levels throughout the week. Because as we've started playing more golf, especially with this show, with this franchise, we're out filming, we do these launches. After like two or three rounds on a trip, we're fucking exhausted. And like we'll play in one pro-am man. And it'll be six, six and a half hours. And like halfway through it, we're just like we drop our pre-shot routine. We just swing.

We're sweating. It's the middle of summer. You guys, like, you know, people like to make fun of golfers. and obviously more athletic now than it used to be. But like, it is exhausting out there. And it's such a mental game. And even with celebrations or reactions, like that takes energy. Is there a concerted effort out of you to kind of think about

and be conscious of your energy levels throughout the week? Yeah, a million percent. I think this year more than more than any other year has taught me that. I was in that 150 to or 126 to 150 category this year. so I only got in 21 events and it sure showed me that I was playing too much and doing too much. I think this is my eighth year and my first year that I haven't played over 30 events. Yeah, I mean, the neurological decline is inevitable. That's why you see, you know, the big guys only play a couple events in a row.

You know, they're never playing more than three or four. And it's, yeah, like you said, it's inevitable. I definitely, I would say I probably need to do a better job in the moment on the course, but I think from just a week-to-week perspective, you know, I'm playing less practice rounds. I know all these courses at this point, like you guys said at the beginning, I'm a veteran now, whether I like it or not, I'm feeling old. And, and yeah, you got to, you know, you got to do stuff unless I'm really struggling. You know, I'm not hitting balls after my round.

You know, I'm just, I'm taking a lot more priority on rest than I, am, you know, anything else for sure. Yeah, it's an interesting dynamic to it that I, that I just think doesn't probably get covered too much. So you just walk us through a normal week. It's, you know, we're talking to you now so people know the show will come out on Tuesday. It's, it's one, 1.30 in the afternoon on Monday. What's kind of a day by day look like for you on, on, you know, at a, at a tour stop, but especially this is the beginning of FedEx Cup. I think you're about 90th in the FedEx Cup standing. So every week's huge for you from this point in. What's kind of day,

day to day look like for you yeah 83rd but whatever um yeah no i mean i think i like you said i think that's the biggest difference like normally you know my rookie years couple years you know i'd be doing a monday pro am you know because they're paying three grand or whatever and i'm like oh great another time to see the course whatever and now it's like you know i'm not really doing much today might get a massage but just really taking an easy um tomorrow i'm gonna only play nine holes i think the the the nine whole pro am has been a huge thing for us that the players have really pushed. And it makes a huge difference just kind of being able to taper into the week. So I'll play whatever nine. I'm not playing in the pro game tomorrow. Some light short game practice kind of just get, you know, get the speed and

feel of the greens. And then Wednesday, you know, we have the pro am, but it's it's only nine holes. So I mean, I would say, you know, my rookie year, I was doing about five, six hours a day. And now I'm doing about three hours a day. And it makes a world difference, especially this late in the season. It's interesting the difference or the evolution of a golf course throughout the week for you guys. He was talking with on Wednesday played with Underbound Lahiri in the second part of our pro am. And he was talking a lot about how he's really learned that if he can get out there and getting the pro am on Wednesday, that that's actually essential for him because the firmness and the fieriness of the golf course changes so much from Monday to Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday that

he's found if he doesn't get out there on Wednesday and get some true, you know, prep and experience it on Wednesday, he might show up it on the first hole. His ball might bounce over the green and his approach. He's like, oh, Jesus. Totally. Yeah, no, and I mean, that goes back to, you know, what we've been talking about. Like, I, playing 18 holes on Tuesday morning, not only is it, you know, a huge energy drain, but it's also like the course is going to be so different Thursday afternoon than Tuesday morning. It's not only an energy drain. It's honestly a complete waste of time. Like, if you've never seen the course before and you don't know where to hit it that's one thing but you know these guys you know

that have been out here my my rookie year i i was playing in palm springs and uh matt coocher came to the first he and asked to join us i'm like oh this is so great like i'm going to play 18 holes with matt coocher he played one two and three and drove off like they don't you know you're just trying to see the you know the speed and stuff of the greens but after that like it really is kind of pointless on tuesday because it does change so much right there's no preparation for like getting your swing ready, right? Like, that's already in place. You guys aren't out there warming up your swings or fixing anything on a Tuesday or Wednesday, are you? Like, all this preparation is strictly course management, seeing the green, seeing the speed, or are you working things out on the course?

Yeah, I think, yeah, I think very little stuff. You know, there might be a ball position changed or just kind of a feel you're trying to get. So it might be, you know, walking into the ball differently or just a set up thing or how you're, you know, a feel on the club or whatever. But yeah, you're not making any big, big changes. I mean, I see that all the time, you know, guys just, you know, out at 5 p.m. on Wednesday, grind and hitting a million bags of balls. It's like, if you don't have it on Wednesday, you're probably not going to have it tomorrow. You know, you're probably not going to find it.

And even more so, you kind of just got to play with what you have. You know, I was actually talking my brother about that the other day. Like my good stretch that I had a couple weeks ago, I'm. I mean, I really wasn't hitting it that well, but I knew exactly where the ball was going. And I think that's something that's underlooked out here. It's not necessarily, you know, the 200 most talented guys in the world. It's the 200 guys that know their game the best. And so, you know, it's not necessarily hitting perfect shots.

Obviously, the top 10, 20 guys are amazing. But the rest of us, you know, we just kind of know our game and get it around the course. And we know exactly we're going to hit it where we want or we know where our miss is going to be. And we just keep it manageable. Love that. Talk to me about the Twitter account. Homeless Hubs. Where'd you get? What's that nickname about? Yeah, just playing minors, living on a buddy's couch, basically. And, you know, I'm always a disheveled piece of crap.

So they just started calling me homeless. Nick Faldo's favorite PGA pro. Yeah, he just, I mean, RIP, sad to see him go. Yeah. He just loves, he can't stop talking about my putting. I mean, I have short arms and I hunch over a bunch, but man, he just won't let it go. He just, I figured. Same.

Same. Yeah. We've had limited run-ins with him. We've interviewed him actually at Frankie's family restaurant. He's a great guy. But once he gets last shot on to something, he is going to talk about it forever. There's this one thing that he all bugs me so much. Every time he sees someone in contention yawn, he's like, oh, they're nervous and they're not

breathing enough. Like when you don't breathe enough, that's when you yawn. I'm like, maybe it's just fucking hot at wind up and like they're tired because he's had a million rain delays. Like maybe he's not nervous. Maybe he's just yawning. It's a normal human thing. But it's the same thing.

He just like gets latched on something and just will not let it go. Yeah. When he did this to Riggs, he just refused to let Riggs's like putting stroke and and his big stroke like going. He just kept commenting and he kept calling you like something different, right? Wasn't he calling you Biggs or something like that? Yeah, he called me. He called me.

Yeah, it was like Bigsy or something. He just couldn't get it. Briggs. He's like Briggs. And then like, yeah, he just, he couldn't comprehend it either. Like he would just put his head in his hands whenever he would talk about it and be like, I. And he just couldn't let it go. And every day I could tell like there are certain people who like J.T.

will jump in and he gets the humor of it. And he's in on the like, I think literally Nick Faldo would quote sweet about my putting every day from a point of like pure emotional distress about the. thing. Actual analysis. He would see it and tune in every day and be like, fuck. God damn it. He just couldn't.

What is he doing? Every single day. He's a weird one. I played yesterday with Jason Duffner and my buddy, Nick Taylor, and one of our good friends was Cadyin for him, David Markle. And like the second hole, someone yelled, let's go Duff, but it sounded like, let's go muff. And so the whole day, we were just like calling him muff.

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Big time. Wow. What is their problem? Dude, I saw this tweet. They're amazing at their job, but like, so I have a 16, 17 month old, and we plan our flights meticulously. All right, her naps at 12. We're going to take the noon flight. We get on.

We do all of our groundwork. She's ready to go. She's fed. She's happy. She's going to, as soon as we take off, she's going to pass out. And we're going to be able to watch Netflix and hang out for two hours. Like, this is great. 20 minutes into it.

Pilot gets on. Hey, everybody. Like, we're at 30,000. Nobody. Like you just woke my daughter up. The drink cart ladies come around like, Hey, you guys need anything. We need you to shut up.

So our daughter can see. That's what we need. What do you think? That's very funny. And second, what do you think about an alternate airline that is only for people with kids? Because I think that works for both schools.

What a fucking circus would be. You get on that plane idea. But listen, the airline, the airline that flies with kids and their parents, they will not have the pilot at 15,000 feet, 17,000 feet, 19,000 feet being like, this is where we're at in the sky. It'll be all whispers. It'll be a very quiet voice.

And then on our plane, I do not have children. I don't have to deal with the kids crying when the pilot wakes them up with the announcements. Million percent. That's an unbelievable idea. I just want to know, like, what is he trying to, like, no one cares. I've never heard a pilot. I am so great. They're amazing.

They do a great job. I travel a million weeks a year. Like, obviously, I need them. but what are they trying to accomplish? No one cares about that info. That is true. And that is a great, great idea.

I'm, I'm in on that. I'm, I'll be your first investor for sure. Fantastic. Yeah, it's a good point. Like,

we don't need to know the cruising altitude at all. Like, that's something that he just needs to talk to like, someone on the ground about. Right. Unless we're going down, if we're not going down, I don't need to know anything.

That's the only time I need to hear you is like, hey, our wing fell off. Bro, this happened. And even then, And even then I'm going to know. Like if the wind comes off, right, right.

Everything that happens on a plane, you can, you can, you can, you can tell. Yeah, I know I have a phone and it tells me when we're getting in. I'll tell you what, that's the worst. There's nothing worse than landing early. And they're always so braggadocious about it. They're like, oh, we got in nine minutes early. And then we sit on the fucking tarmac for a half hour. It's like, I'd rather be in the sky.

Like, I don't, I don't want to be where I'm going and not moving. Yeah, they act like they were driving, you know, in an F1 race and like passing planes on the the site. It's like, no, like the wind was good. Like, thank you. We'll say we're a very pro pilot podcast. We had a pilot. We had a pilot on.

We had a pilot on. Yeah, I mean, don't get it wrong. They're amazing. I can never do it. Like, they're a little self grandizing for sure. I think just in general. You know, they got the, they got the whole outfit and the fucking hats. You know, it's kind of the doctor God complex sort of thing.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, dude, that happened to us. We were Dave, I've talked about this on this podcast, but we were Dave Portnoy on a little mini private plane. We got all the way up in the air and the fucking pilot. And the fucking pilot came in the back and goes, Hey guys, we lost one of the engines.

It's frozen. So like, we're going to try and do everything we can to like thaw it out. But like the throttle's frozen solid. And like he goes, if we can't, like we're going to have to like slowly float down. So Dave and I look at each other and we're like, are you fucking kidding me? First of all, you telling us that did nothing but scare the shit out of us. Because we have nothing to do from now until we land. this plane. We're just sitting there. We're just waiting for something bad to happen. So don't say it ever.

Don't ever say anything ever. Keep your mouth shut. Maybe like on the way out if you really need the praise be like, oh, by the way. Yeah, by the way, we thought out the fucking right engine. They do have in the moment. They do have now on Uber. Like when you call Uber, they give you the option like, do you want a quiet ride? Do you want a talkative ride? I think you do that on a plane and it's a voting system where it's like whoever, it's a democracy. So whoever gets a, the most votes. If it's a quiet pilot, then it's a quiet pilot. If it's a talkative pilot, you get a talkative pilot. It's a voting. It's a democracy. Yeah, I love, I mean, we fly so much. We have good status with United because it's a hub in Houston where I live. And like, you know,

we can do all our preferences like, oh, I want a window seat. Oh, I want this meal. And it's like, no, what I want. What I want. They will. They'll be like, you know, we're coming in on the kind of the eastern side of Albuquerque here. And then we're going to come. There's a little storm. You're like, what are you talking about? I just shut the fuck up. Yeah, maybe like if we're going over the Grand Canyon, that's the only time maybe you should say something. That's right. I like how passionate you are about it. That makes me exciting.

It's just, and I honestly, it bugged me before I had kids, but now it's just like, we do so much work to have her fall asleep. And then it's just like, and it looks out on us. Are you a loyalty guy? You got a certain airline you go with? I mean, I guess probably not because we fly United pretty strictly. just because it's a partner with the tour and we have a hub in Houston, but I think Delta is probably the best airline.

I think any airline sucks if you don't have status and if you have really good status, they're great. Especially now, like, that's well put. Like, they're all pretty shitty and they don't care and customer service is pretty low on their priority. It sucks. So bad.

Right now it's bad. It's a bad spot. Yeah. My buddy, and Sinsie Hughes lost, they lost all of his bags in Edinburgh for the British or Scottish. And he just found, I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday. We were sitting at lunch. They just found two of them, but he still got five bags missing. It's like, how is that?

Well, it's 2022. Like, we can send people. Apple tags. You got to put Apple tags in them. So he told, we found out that story last week. I immediately Amazon for Apple tags. So I got them in my bags. I got them mine, too.

So I had the same. infuriating though if you know where your bag isn't it's true knocking on the door it's right there july 3rd last time i saw my bag july 3rd flying to uh flying to glasgow we still don't have your bag don't have my bag don't have it i got a new microphone i got this little tiny little shit purple um yeah i don't have my bag since then and i will say the most infuriating thing in the world is all the rear room year guys that are like oh you shouldn't put apple tags and i'm like why don't you go fuck your what am I gonna teleport to fucking he throw and put an air tag of my totally then it would just tell me that it said heat throw I don't yeah it doesn't get you your

bag it would just be worth it's like you know the find my iPhone my wife had her iPhone stolen at a bar in san Jose and then you know the next morning we look at it and it's like in the worst neighborhood in Oakland we're like oh yeah that's great we know where it is like I'm not there and get it like that doesn't help me yeah I'll say dude I did put them in now too and I know you can change your notifications but now like as soon as I check my bag and then I walk like 100 feet away I just get a notification it's like you are your golf bag is now like not near you and I'm like I don't know I just drop it off like the pilots got like yeah that's right that's the pilot version of my fucking air tag phone dude that sucks man I'm sorry that's brutal no it's I'm back of the

apartment now so I got real clothes now we got new stuff coming out so I'm dude it has gotten to the point now where it's funny, at least to me, probably not to you. I hope you've taken so long. I know that you hope I don't ever get my bag. Well, it's a funny storyline. If it's like next July and you're like I still haven't gotten my bag and maybe we have to, we go to like a trip to Ireland and you're going to stop and he throw first to go see if you can get it. That'd be funny. Yeah, I don't disagree. And I wore the same pair of shorts for a month and a half straight for that reason. It's like I got a principle. It's like I'm not going to. And they, they string you along. Like you get text from these fucking assholes all the time. That's like, oh, your bag is on the next flight to Glasgow from Heathrow.

And it's been like a month since I've been there. And I'm like, oh, great. And they do that every day. And then it's just never on that flight. It's like, and then Friday they did the thing where my flight was supposed to leave. This was Delta. Flight was supposed to leave at five. They text me at four. That's like your flight's delayed till seven. Then they text you at six. It's like your flight's delayed till eight. Then they just kept doing that. So you couldn't leave. And then you couldn't, eventually it just got canceled. So you're like, well, what are we doing? I spent seven. hours in the airport just to go home. I could have been at the bar or Beale Street with fucking Mark Hubbard. Yeah. There you go. I mean, airport parties are fun though. So.

No, it is a good time. Everybody's kind of in it together. You know, and you're- Yeah, everyone's in it together. You can drink at any time. You can wear anything you want. Like, it's just kind of chaos and the anarchy and international waters. Like, there's no judgment zone. Like, we're all, right? Like, nobody's there to impress anybody who's trying to get through it. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Speaking of international waters, I watch, I fucking watch that Woodstock documentary. I think I'm like two episodes in. Did you guys watch the Woodstock 99 on Netflix?

No. I saw it. I'm gonna watch it. Holy smokes. They just, there was no rules. Like, Limp Biscuit came out and they fucking just got the place going crazy and it turned

into pure anarchy. I'm talking like places being lit on fire, people shit on the floor, people, it was crazy. You have to watch this documentary. It was like the greatest collection of 90s bands to ever come together. I mean, you guys are old. You probably remember fucking Woodstock 99. The only thing I've seen from that is the DMX clips where he's got the place going

fucking wild. Yeah, that's what I thought I remembered it was DMX. Well, wait until you see this. They like, they did it on this like old like Air Force hangar and it like wasn't the old school like grass, love is love type woodstock. It was like 120 degrees on the pavement. No water. Like at the time waters were like $9 a pop and like their mid 90s or late 90s obviously.

Dude, it was fucking bad. So yeah, definitely watch this. It's a recommendation. You have any hobbies? Do you have any like Hubbard hobbies or anything? I mean, fuck I have kids. Yours. But yeah, I mean.

Hubbard hobbies. Yeah. Any of those things? I mean, you got a kid, right? So it's like a problem. Yeah. I'm a big skier. I'm from Colorado.

So I mean, that's, you know, if I have an off week and it's there's anywhere where there's snow, that's where I'm going for sure. You anti-San Colorado? What's that? I would say Colorado. And whenever I talk to people who are from Colorado, it always, I always have to correct me. No, I don't give the shit. Oregon, Oregon.

Yeah. We're actually, I'm going out to Colorado for Devon Taves's little celebration, his cup party. He's having it. I don't know where he's having it. But yeah, well, you know what? If you're in town, maybe I'll give you a text and then we'll see, we'll see if you're there. When is it? September.

Okay. All right. Yeah. I'll make that word. I'll put an apple tag on the cup and you'll just have to find us. You should put an apple tag in there. That'd be incredible. Dude, imagine he like, first of all,

I'm not touching it or doing anything with it because, like, I'll just get absolutely fucking roast. I'm going for my friend. Like, I'm just, I'm not even looking at the thing. Because if someone sees a picture of the whole cup. Yeah,

right. When you're caught up in the, when you're caught up in the mix, everybody's drinking out of it at the bar. Nope. Frank, he's 10 beers deep. You're not going to toss a cup.

Dude. Nope. I won't even come close to it. Really? Why even go then? Because he's like, what's the point. I mean, at this point, too, that thing is so battered. I think they just did like a 30 for 30 on the Aves celebration because it's been so rowdy.

There was a week in Denver where they literally drank the city out of alcohol. Like the next shipment was Friday and it was like Thursday night and bars were just like closing, you know, at 8 o'clock because it has nothing to do with me having respect for the cup. It has everything to do with the fact that it's a bad look for like the islanders. I am, I bleed orange and blue. I'm not celebrating with another team's victories, especially a guy that left our team. Well, he got traded, but he left our team to go win the couple of the team. You are celebrating. You're flying to Colorado. I am, I am, well, I've got family out there.

So I am being there for my friend and he said, you wore a turtleneck to my wedding. You owe me this. That's what he told me. So I have to go celebrate for him. I'm celebrating his life and his accomplishments. I'm not celebrating. There's the Colorado Avalanche. You're doing a very...

Back there with that. You're doing a very delicate dance between celebrating with your friend and not getting a day, Portnight quote, those are the things you're dancing between. I watched Grennelly celebrate with the fucking lightning and the blues,

and I'll never, ever, ever do that. You will not see me in a picture with the fucking cup. I guarantee that. But you're going to a cup celebration. I'm going to a party that the cup happens to be at, which is actually pretty sick.

If you think about that, you know what I mean? I'm going to like a... It's basically like a baby christening. and like the cups is going to be there. It's fine. You hate the Islanders. You're giving up on that.

No. All right. I'm not going now. I'm not going to fucking skiing. That's it. I'm not going. It's a little dicey. I won't even show up.

This has been fun. I enjoyed this. So what do you got today? You're not doing anything today? You're not hitting balls? My wife and daughter are getting in at like 4.30. So I'm going to pick them up. But yeah, I got to go find my credit card and ID.

On the real street. Go to the store and get some stuff. And yeah. Oh, good, dude. Is it just hot as far. there it's got to be hot yeah yeah and i mean that's the thing too like this week three we were in uh greensboro last week it was a million degrees a lot of sweat and energy loss like it's just today's monday's always kind of a shut-down day so barbecue tonight or what yeah yeah yeah definitely i'm in on

that fuck yeah awesome all right mark hobbard 83rd in case you didn't know in the fedex cup standings going into the fedex cup playoffs uh Ace, first ace, professional ace? No, that was my second on tour, ninth total, I think fourth in competition. Oh, nice. It was actually great. I was at eight and four had been sober, four had been drunk. And so that was the fifth.

It's five, four. How I needed to play. That was the kicker. That's huge. So you must be into like casual boozy golf with the squad. Yeah, I think it's a completely different sport, just fun golf versus what we do. And, you know, there's definitely times where I love the competitive part of it, but I'm, you know, there's times where I just miss the joy of playing. And so it's nice to go out with buddies and just kick it around.

Hell yeah. All right, man. Well, look, this was great. We'll do this again for sure. Good luck out there. We'll be rooting for you. And yeah, we appreciate you taking the time. Try to, you know, if you're going to, even if you're going to hit a shitty shot, just act like it's good.

good so that doesn't happen. I'm putting a star next to your name now on my score out. I've done that for Sam Ryder and Callum Taryn. Now you're going to be there. I get up the I get all these updates about like Calum just like shooting one over par and like a like a Thursday. I'm just like, why am I getting these notifications? But it was like Sam Ryder is tied for 72nd.

I'm like I don't even know why that's like a priority on my phone. But you're a part of that now. So don't disappoint me. I want to see some good updates. I'll let you down. I'm going to get like I'm going to get like your golf. bag is like lost and and Mark Hubbard shot 69. Yeah. So I have a I don't have my name on my bag and I've just been putting like a dry race board on the front. So if you guys have any requests for what you

want written. Oh. Oh, wow. Dude. I mean, let's go up with that right now. Wait. You what else is going on there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I like I my bag broke. I was kind of in between contracts the title list so I don't have a bag deal with them anymore and so I just needed a bag last second so one of my other sponsors hooked it up but it was really last minute because I was first alternate in the travelers and ended up getting in when Brooks went to live. So I got in super last minute. They just needed to ship me a bag. So I haven't had my name on my bag since travelers.

So I just bought this like tape whiteboard stuff that you can just kind of like. This is crazy pressure. You're like, you're only right now. I'm just saying, just text me before Thursday. I'll, I'll do whatever. Wow. You're like Woody Page on Around the Horn. That's totally what I think of every time I write something.

It's the best part of that show. He's such a nut. Look that you just change it every time. Every day? Do you change it every day? Or just for the tournament, whatever, whatever. So last week I had, I was thinking about, I was just going to do the Roman numerals 69, kind of as like a fuck you to live or whatever.

But then someone was like, oh, you should do wine me, dine me, 69 me. So I had wine, me, dine me, and then the Roman numeral 69 me. And then we had these cardboard cutouts of Joel and Harry from the waste management with those whatever off. And so I had those like popping out of the sides. It was pretty awesome. I'll send you. All right. All right.

We need to get this is. We're going to put our heads together once you get off here. We'll talk about it on the show. And then we'll see what we can come up with because we'd have to be able to come up with something really solid. Yeah. I was going to say wine and dine. and 69 me with a Roman numeral, that's too, that's too good to live up to right now. So we got, we need a couple days. Yeah, okay, perfect. All right. Awesome. All right, Mark, you're the man.

We'll text you. We're going to come up with something good. These brains collaboratively can do something. So we'll try to come up with something good. All right, perfect. Well, thanks for having you guys at this long. Thanks, man. Thanks, dude. See you, man. Appreciate it. We'll see you later. See you.