Fore Play - “I’d Massage The Boss Man All Over” feat Riggs live from Bermuda
Episode Date: December 5, 2019It's the Trent and Frankie show (for the first half of this episode) They give their thoughts on Riggs round in Bermuda, run through some headlines including Michelle Wie to CBS, every species of Tige...r being back and more. Then Riggs and Andrew breakdown Riggs shooting 103-100 in the 2019 Goslings Invitational!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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It's a little bit of a different show.
It's just me and Frankie sitting in here right now.
Yeah, so we got Riggs playing in the Bermuda Gosslings Invitational.
He's out there playing right now getting his absolute dick kicked in.
I was going to say, we're going to get to that.
We'll get to that.
Lurch isn't here.
He's got a real job that he couldn't make it to the studio today.
So it's just me and Frankie and producer Jake in the house.
Yeah, so that's who we got here in New York.
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All right.
So like we said, it's just me and you in here right now.
Yeah, it's a give me a different little different show because we don't have rigs in the studio.
But he will be speaking in like about a half a half a half a lot.
in like about a half an hour.
He's just getting off the golf course as we speak right now.
You guys are going to be able to hear from him after he played in his first,
I guess this is his first like real tournament?
It's a PGA tournament.
It was on the website, like a PGA amateur tournament.
Oh, I didn't realize it was on the actual website.
Well, he tweeted out a screenshot of the, like the standings and the leaderboard.
I had like a PGA of America logo on top.
So I didn't know if it was like a sanction thing.
I'm pretty sure it's like legit.
Like it's an actual legit tournament.
Well, he said it's a 54-hole tournament.
It's got a cut that he's definitely not going to, I don't think he's going to make.
Here's the thing, Trent.
When these listeners hear when Riggs comes on here, they're going to hear a lot of things about the wind.
You're going to hear a lot of things about it was impossible out there.
And I don't know, the wind and the trees and the flag sticks were barely sticking up.
I couldn't even keep my hat on.
He was playing with local Bermudians.
Is that the word?
I'll take it.
Local Bermudians who were also.
a scratch golfer who shot a 45
on the front. I'm Eminem
in the shit out. I'm 8 mile in the fucking shit out of Wrigues. You are? Because he is going to come in
hot being like. He's going to come in hot. Yeah, I played in my first tournament, but this, this,
this, this, this, this, this, this, this. He shot 103, right? And I, let's just talk about
this. Riggs is a six handicap. Yeah. And we often talk about his swing and all these
things. And it's easy to pile on him right now because he's not here to defend himself. But
you know what? That's the type of person I am. I talk behind your back. I'm never, I will never shy away from
talking behind your back. That's the kind of person I am. I'm skinny. I'm frail. I don't have a lot of
backing to really say something to your face because I don't want to get beat up. Yeah. And, and technically
he is on this show. He's on the show. It's just that he's on in like 45 minutes when we're-
He won't hear what we're saying about him until he's done recording. No, but I guarantee he's going to
say some of the things that you're saying, but he's going to use them as excuse. And here's my take on
this trend. Okay. Is I think he just played really poorly. Which happens, right? Yes. Like,
I think he played like dog poo.
And I think he was hitting the ball sideways.
He was pirouetting.
His hat was falling off.
He was coming from the inside.
All these things were happening.
And we've all been there.
I've shot over a hundred many times.
Same.
There's been a ton of times in which I thought that the conditions of the course probably played a factor in it.
Like whether it was that Pioneer's number eight when we were talking about the turtleback greens.
And I was like, I just can't play a golf course like this because I don't have that type of game to be able to stick it on to the greens.
I'm a huge excuse guy.
And I just don't know if Riggs should.
come to being that guy. It's not that
it's not appealing. My
personality and the things that
I say aren't like what normal people should
do. So don't be like me, Riggs. Just
say you played like shit. I hope he says that.
I don't think he will and what I
want to say on the flip side of that is
I would like to see some context. I haven't seen the leader
board. He said that the guy after nine
holes that he's playing with Damien is a scratch
golfer and then he shot at 45. I think
Riggs shot at 55 or 56.
So obviously people are out there having a tough
day. I would like a larger sample size on like what are the leaders at? What is, you know, what's
middle the pack? What's bottom of the list? So he tweeted out a bunch of these final scores.
It was a PGA New England section of America. So it is like a legitimate tournament. And there's a bunch of like tied for 16th was plus 18. So you're talking it was a par 71. Let's do the math, Frankie. That's an 80. 89.
Okay. So that's an 89. There's a 94 plus 25. There's a 97. And then you get all the way up to plus
32 plus 44 plus 54 and he's saying in that tweet Trent uh Trent
Riggs says I had a 55 on my front night and I'm damn proud of that number goal is to
break 110 so he's already talking about like the conditions are so hard that like he's so
proud of a 55 my point is that okay Riggs we're watching these videos we're watching you
scull the ball sideways we're watching you hit the ball literally horizontal why on the
holes that you're putting for par and putting for bogey and you made a string of bogeys in a row, why
why was it okay on those holes?
Like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I understand that the wind stopped your drive from going 230, 230, 280, 290 yards, and it made
you hit a four iron on a par 3, 138 yards.
But like, how come on the holes that you did okay on?
Like, what happened there?
If you were able to do it, it's not like you were playing.
Here's my point is this, is that it's not like you were playing on Mars.
and like you couldn't get the ball in the hole.
There's a way, there were a couple holes in which you got the ball in the hole.
Yeah, we've seen those clips.
He had a couple pars in a row, a couple bogeys in a row.
So when you hit the ball sideways and you made a nine, you hit the ball sideways and you hit and you made a nine.
Yeah, I mean, we're guys who aren't very good at golf either.
And sure, the weather can compound these things to the point where it's like, all right, I think I'm not playing as bad as my score indicates because of the weather.
But, you know, inside of that is that he's probably just not playing that well.
Correct.
And the wind, 100% is.
brutal to play. And it gets into your head. When you take your back swing, it's like all you think
about it. Like you got to swing harder. You got to like, you end up lifting your head. You want to try and
kill the ball. I mean, you're hitting a four iron from 135 yards out. It's definitely different
golf. But like at the end of the day, if you can string up a long, a decent amount of holes where
you're not chunking the ball and you're just advancing the ball. And he proved it that he went on a
string of nine. I think it was like the, when he made his turn, he made a couple, like three
bogeys in a row, started off with a par on one. Like he was playing okay golf at one point.
You can't have it both ways.
Right, yeah.
If he was making eight to nines throughout the whole round,
don't say you're damn proud of a 55.
Because Riggs cared about...
I would be damn proud of a 55.
Yeah, but Riggs cared about this so much.
He's like, I'm going to play in this fucking tournament.
I may make the cut.
He keeps right, and it's a 36, maybe 54 whole tournament.
He keeps right, maybe 54, like as if he was going to make it to the final day.
And now you're not proud of a 55, man.
You're not proud of a 55.
You want to shoot a 35.
Yeah, yeah.
No, he's definitely going to be disappointed in like, like we said,
In about 30, 35 minutes, you're going to hear Riggs recap his own round.
It will be interesting to see what he says.
I'm guessing there will be a lot of talk about the win.
But maybe, you don't know, maybe he might say I just didn't have it today.
And the reason he's out there is because of Gosling's Rums.
Yes.
And he's playing in this Gosling's Rome invitational.
They sent him out there.
Maybe they, do you think they regret it at this point because he embarrassed them?
No, I don't think so.
Now you're piling it on.
I would never have said that if he was here.
Yeah.
I wouldn't have said any of this stuff if he was here.
That's okay.
I feel like I need to plug in some like flex.
bombs like the drop a bomb.
Yeah, or like the air horns go off.
You know what? I'm just a huge baby when it comes to talking in someone's face, and I will
never do that.
Yeah, so you're, it's not even...
I'm soft.
Yeah.
I'm a coward.
That's the word.
I'm a coward.
But I will always admit that I'm a coward.
But here's what would happen.
If I wasn't here right now and Riggs was sitting right here, you'd be making fun of me for
something.
100% that I did.
Just because I'm not...
I talk behind people's back, man.
Just because the person isn't an attendance.
Talk about someone.
Someone's back feels great.
Oh, boy.
Because you get to say everything you want about them and you get no repercussions.
Maybe a bad trait that someone has.
Like, yeah, you talk behind people's bag.
You're a fucking bitch.
I don't care.
Like, say what you want about me behind my back.
I do not care.
I'm going to let loose on all the things I think about you.
I don't think rig should be hitting the ball sideways.
Talk to me about Gosling's rum.
Gossilings rum is the spirit of Bermuda and the dark and stormy in Bermuda's national drink.
They don't have a national anthem, but they have a national drink.
I don't know what to think about that.
That seems a little bit too crazy to me.
But they like their drinks.
They like their rum in Bermuda.
Yep.
So here's the big thing is that he's playing in this Gosson's Invitational.
Gosslings rum.
They have a great Twitter handle.
It's called The Black Seal.
We've been tweeting at it all day.
It just feels like, I don't know,
it feels like you're tweeting at something in the middle of the ocean.
That's just going to come up and, you know, just...
What's the monster that comes out of the wall?
The Gassling's.
The Crackin.
It's like, that's just what you feel like you're talking.
And it's the Dark and Stormy.
So the Dark and Stormy is the one and only trademark cocktails in the world.
And the only way to make a dark and stormy is with Gossin's black seal rum and ginger beer.
So they own the only...
trademark cocktail in the world
and that means that you only have to use
Gossilings rum. That's incredible.
So this is the recipe for the dark and stormy.
Fill a tall glass with ice
pour in about six ounces of Gosslings
stormy ginger beer, top
with two ounces of Gossilings black seal
rum so it looks like a storm cloud
in the glass, garnished with a
lime wedge optional. Now that
just makes me feel like I'm an
astute human being. Is that the word?
Fancy, I think.
The name was have
said to originated in the 1920s
when an old fisherman observed that the
drink was the color of a cloud
only a fool or
dead man would sail under
probably followed by
barman I'll have another dark and stormy
it's an a plus name
for a drink dark and stormy is A
A plus here's the
my ending point is that you're just going to want
to go try this Gosling's rum you're going to want to
try Dark and Storm if you show up to a bar
you see behind the bar they have Goslings order a
dark and storm you're going to feel like a million bucks walking in there maybe the whole entire
place if you walk into an old like ship looking bar and you say give me a dark and storm you think like
the lights flicker yeah the lights turn down and and and things start to creak it's not like yeah i have
a vodka tonic yeah yeah i'm gonna take a gin and tonic and please uh put the tonic on the side
so i can please um i'll take an apple martini please and um when you garnish the lemon please squeeze
all the lemon juice out so that i don't have to use that and i can just use the i can
and just use the peel.
Thank you.
I like the feel the peel.
Yeah, I like to see it.
Thank you very much.
No, you're going to order a dark and stormy,
and the lights are going to flicker like it's a Harry Potter movie.
Great.
That's what's going to happen.
One more piece of housekeeping before we get to headlines.
Housekeeping.
Housekeeping.
Go ahead.
There was a butternive shout out.
Oh.
At the Hero World Challenge shot,
Bryson DeCambeau down in the Bahamas with Tiger Woods.
They were doing this little shot challenged for the World Hero Challenge
challenge that's happening this week down in the Bahamas.
The guy, the announcer basically said,
What was that mean?
Here's Bryson Dishambeau,
a guy who has been known to cure the butternights.
Yeah, it was like an MC too.
So it was like in the background,
like horns were going off.
Bryson's hitting this ball into the water.
And you hear the guy in the background,
trying to rev up the crowd being like,
we got Bryson DeChambo out here.
He's been known to cure butter knives.
And like everyone's like, yeah.
Bryson hits a shot.
Like, what the fuck was that, MC?
Everywhere you go,
you get,
and you get just cheap shot with butternice stuff.
When we were at the Kevin Kisner event,
Kisner was like in front of a crowd giving a clinic
Kind of trying to juice the crowd up a little bit
He's like I'm Kisner here's my catty Dewey
And it was kind of like yay
And then there's like we got Frankie Butterknives here
And it's just an easy thing for people to say
Is that what I've become?
Is that if I become I know I've become a punching bag
And I'm fine with that
But am I like the go-to pump up the crowd
While giving a golf instructional wedges shot
Like a punching bag?
Absolutely
Like these MCs
Whenever whenever there's a mic in these people's hands
It's like the first
person they think about is Frankie Borrelli. What world are we living in? Well, they're looking
for a little bit of a joke because those things can be kind of stiff and it's like,
fuck you, fuck you dude, brison didn't cure anything. That's what, yeah, that's what I was thinking
too, like you got it wrong buddy. Bryson didn't cure. And that's not Bryson's fault. That's sort of
your fault. Guys, this is just me talking to the crowd and I'm going to talk to you guys one on one.
I know that you may think that at this point, it's impossible for me to still be talking about
my wedges. I know that you think that we're on year two of
this now probably. It's probably been about two years. I guess two years. I've been on the
pod. Yeah. Maybe a year and a half. And there's no way anyone with any sort of athletic ability,
which you may think I don't have. I'm telling you, I have somewhat of an athletic ability to be
able to at least attempt to swing and like hit a ball. Right. It's not moving. It's just like
something in your brain. Yeah, you may think that I'm just making this up or like we're still
stringing along an old joke. No. I genuinely can't hit wedges. I try so hard. When I step up to a ball and
I'm 25 yards away, you don't think I want to hit the fucking ball on the green?
You think when I'm in front of Kevin Kisner, he just gave me an hour lesson in front of
everyone at his golf club and we're out there playing.
I just hit a ball into a pond in which they said no one's ever hit a ball into that
pond at Palmetto.
They didn't even know the water was there.
The guy belongs there.
He's like, I didn't even know that there was water there.
You don't think that I want to get an up and down and show him that he should, like, be polite
and be like, hey.
It's like, respectful for you.
If you would hit a great wedge out there, it's incredibly respectful to Kevin.
It's like, see.
Maybe you would have pad you on the back like a father figure.
When I step up to that ball, I want nothing more than that.
I hit the ball onto the next T-box.
I scalded over.
He laughed at me.
He pointed at me.
He called me names.
I don't want that.
Like, it's not like good for my brand to be an incompetent, brainless asshole.
Well, that I disagree with.
That I think the Butterknife brand is stronger than ever.
It's right up there with Coca-Cola.
Sure, for you guys to make fun of me.
But, like, there are people that think, like, oh, there's no way he's still doing this.
Is that all they talk about?
Like, yeah, at this point, like, I am,
we're at, like, levels in this world that we're living in
that I still can't hit a wedge that that's all I can talk about.
Because I can't believe I can't do it.
It's a sickness.
It's a sickness that you have.
Did you think any part of you, if you watch the video that we're talking about,
that Tiger was in the background, do you think any part of them was like,
what's this guy talking about butter knives for?
Right, because, like, the true term to a butter knife is like a two iron, right?
Yeah.
It's just a flat, no loft.
club. So he's probably like, what the fuck does that mean?
Yeah.
Like tigers never use the term butter knife when talking about wedges.
Because it just doesn't apply to it.
It doesn't apply to him.
That doesn't make any sense.
The only reason I say butter knives when it comes to wedges is because I say I can't
use the loft.
It's basically like a flat straight up club.
I mean, chances are he was just sort of zoning out and like waiting for his turn.
He's like, I can't wait to golf.
I can't wait to golf.
I can't wait to hit my shot.
But a small part of me thinks he heard butternives and it's sort of like, what is this
guy talking about?
And then eventually if we ever get to talk to him, we can talk to him again.
we can be like, this is butternives, what they're referring to.
Yeah.
No, I don't think he knows or cares in the slightest bit about anything that has to do with my life.
No, not even a little bit.
Not even a little bit.
Don't you hit us with some headlines.
All right, yeah, since we're talking about Tiger Woods, he was on morning drive on Monday,
and he said he's still got a shot at Catching Jack's record, which made me feel really good.
He said this.
Well, and not in so many words.
Let me read this way.
It said on Monday Woods joined Golf Channel's Morning Drive from this week's Hero Challenge
to outline his goals for the 2020 season and beyond.
when asked if he thought Jack Nicholas's record of 18 major titles was still on the table, he answered with an affirmative.
I've won tournaments in different ways, and I finally have won a major, referring to when he won the Masters last year, if people forgot.
And I've done that in different ways, so who knows what the future holds.
He didn't give a definitive, like, I'm coming after Jack's record, I'm going to get 19 majors, I'm going to be the greatest golfer of all time, no questions asked.
But I like that he's still thinking about it because before, you know, before everything happened, the scandal and all the
that. It was pretty much a foregone conclusion that the boss man was going to break the record.
And it was one of his main motivations. He constantly talked about it. Like, I'm trying to beat the
record. I'm trying to get 18 and even more than that. And then everything happened. And all right,
he didn't win a major for a while. And then he finally won the Masters. And so his mind has finally
clicked back on and is like, I'm back on my track of trying to beat Jack's record. And that makes me feel
great. Yeah. Part of me wishes that he would just come out and just, I know that Tiger's like,
it's a gentleman's game yeah i know that he's turning into more of like a likable figure amongst
like his peers too and especially during these interviews and he's a lot more open
but man would i like him to just be like i hope jack can't sleep at night because he knows i'm coming
i'm back have you seen the way i've played i'm a thousand percent back i'm literally writing a book
called back and the final chapter is me stabbing stabbing jack in the throat like you wish he talked
about jack the way we talk about jack on the show where he's you know um barbara's getting his
roboat in and she's like he won another tournament yeah
Give me some fire, but, you know, yeah, I like that it's in the back of his mind.
I like that he's dancing around a little bit.
He's letting us know that, like, he thinks he can do it.
Yeah.
You always want to see Tiger talking like that.
The days of Tiger saying he didn't know if he could golf anymore, I think we're long gone from that.
Those were horrific moments when, like, Tiger was literally saying, like, I just want to be able to play soccer with my kids.
Like, I don't even care about golf anymore.
I have another highlight headline for you regarding Tiger.
So I was going through the New York Post either.
day and it says tiger walks a record 800 miles in search of sex i said fucking right this guy's back
you know i clicked on that immediately i saw that headline today as well tiger walks a record 800 miles
in search of sex this wildcat will do anything for love the horny cat dubbed c1 by scientists
embarked on a record-breaking journey at typhsire wildlife sanctuary in maharastra in june this cat this tiger
walked 800 miles just to get a little thumping in.
You know what that shows me?
Get that little dick wet.
You know what that shows me?
All the tigers have gotten their swagger back.
Yes.
Every single one of them.
Every tiger in the world is like, now that Tiger Woods is back to win in majors and
win in golf tournaments, we all got to up our game.
That tiger, he walked 800 miles to get a little bit of sex because of Tiger Woods.
This tiger smelt a little pootang.
800 miles away and he went and got it.
He thought to himself, you know what?
800 miles away is too far.
I can't do that.
And then he thought back to April when Tiger Woods wanted a guy.
Justin National, and he got up on his four paws, and he started walking.
Because tigers nowadays, tigers are back.
It's not just Tiger Woods that's back.
It's all tigers.
They're breeding.
They're walking.
They're fucking everything.
And like, when you're talking about tiger and sex, that's how you know we're back in this, we're back in this beautiful era where like things are happening.
Yes.
Things are being humped.
I bet Tiger Woods, I bet he's probably got on that centrum a million times already by people.
And I guarantee that he saw it.
he was like, that's right, baby.
Yeah.
We're back.
We're all back.
That's absurd.
They're getting their stripes back, baby.
Yeah, he got their stripes back.
He got his green jacket back and the tigers are going to any length they can to get a little
bit of sex.
The horny cat.
The horny cat.
We might have to start calling Tiger C1.
C1.
He'll be like, what?
What's happening?
Oh, man.
Did we talk about here on the book, the Tiger Woods book about, I know we talked about it, but
he didn't put out a release date.
I think we might have talked about it actually.
And I'm pretty sure he put out that statement that he's coming out with a book just to stop anyone else from writing a Tiger Woods book.
Yeah, we talked about that online.
I wasn't sure.
Because we got no date, and it just seems strange to be like I'm writing this book.
And I'm not telling you when it's coming out.
Yeah, it's a classic like, yeah, by the way, I'm going to be writing something.
So you all are not allowed to write one because I'm going to be writing the truth.
And if anyone puts out a Pressel, he's being like, I'm writing a Tiger Woods book.
I've got a Tiger Woods book coming out in fucking March.
They'll be like, well, we're not.
going to buy yours, we're going to buy Tigers when his comes out, whenever that is.
So he's stunting the sales of any other Tiger Woods book, which I fully appreciate.
So Tiger's actually talking as we're recording this right now.
He's doing a whole press release, press conference.
And number one, he looks 20 years old.
Riggs just tweeted out a picture of what he looks like when he's doing this.
He's wearing this like aqua blue.
He looks legitimately 20 years old.
The guy does not age.
It's alarming.
I'm trying to pull it up right on it.
The internet in this room stinks.
When he's wearing his golf outfit,
he's actually getting younger day by day.
When he's off the golf course,
we've talked about that a lot of times.
He's getting older.
You think it's like a push and pull?
It is.
When he puts on his golf clothing,
it's time starts going down.
Benjamin Button mode kicks in.
And he's starting to get,
he's getting younger and younger and younger.
And then when he gets off the golf course
and wears some horrible outfit
that he doesn't know what to wear.
It's like the red lady.
Is that her name is?
Yeah, from Game of Thrones.
She puts on that necklace.
And she looks like a beautiful volumptuous woman
that, you know,
can do all sorts of things.
Some of the Tiger would walk 800 miles before.
Yeah.
The red woman is that she is, she has assets.
And then she takes that fucking necklace off and she's an old bag that can barely
walk.
She can barely get into bed.
She can barely get into bed.
When Tiger puts on his outfits, right?
Tiger may creak, he may barely make it to the dresser, right, at this point.
Yeah.
His knees may be brittle.
He's had a million surgeries on his knee.
his back, everything.
His bones, his back.
He got in a car accident at one point?
His wrists, his fingers are probably all deteriorated.
When he puts on that golf outfit, he magically looks like a in-shaped fit 27-year-old.
He crawls.
He crawls to that dresser.
He tumbles out of bed and he crawls and he looks for that Nike swoosh.
And as soon as he puts it on, it just fills him.
It's like the fountain of youth.
The Red Lady from Game of Thrones is a perfect example.
Because he does.
picture that you're talking about he looks he looks he looks young and he looks a little angry which i
like he's ready to rock he uh so so what what i was trying to get to is that tiger trackers
tweeting out all of his um updates from this press conference and and he's he's doing he's doing
what tiger always does with these little these little jokes and these these jabs and stuff but right now
he goes uh i played well leading up to the masters every came everything came together that week
you think like these little jokes like the little jokes like the little
smirks, the little eye raises.
He's basically saying that, like, I'm playing well right now,
leading up to a tournament that's coming up, the hero,
and then we have the President's Cup, and he was playing a little okay,
walking up to the first year at Augusta.
Yeah.
Love it.
So he's like, I'm going to be, I'm going to be playing well here.
He's always got one of those jokes.
I've blogged many of press conferences of Tiger Woods where he's,
he always has the one joke that gets a smattering of laughter from the, from the press people.
They'll always laugh it up like he wouldn't believe.
I mean, they're looking for access.
They're trying to do anything.
Kanda to get in his favor to be like, you know what?
I love Tiger Woods' jokes.
Before we get to the next headline, I'm going to talk to you about pinned golf.
Do it.
Pinned golf is a rangefinder.
It's a laser rangefinder.
And what they did was they just made, I actually met the people that started PIN golf.
We were at the office.
It was before the Barstall Classic.
Actually, it was one of like the advertising dinners, I think it was.
I don't even know if it was before the Barstall Classic.
Anyway, really good guys.
And basically they were like, we are all golfers and we like don't like the fact that to get a correct yardage or to be able to get a very basic need on the golf course, you have to spend $500, $400, $400 on these like bulky, crazy with all the loft and all the angles and all this stuff.
Like essentially it should just be a, you're looking through a little microscope thing and telescope thing.
And you're just going to get a number and it's going to be simple.
microscope was just the opposite word that I was looking for there.
No, and I have a pin golf rangefinder, and it's great.
I'm a type of person who doesn't need all the loft and all the crazy stuff that comes along with it,
because I'm not that good of a golfer.
Everyone listening to the show knows that, but I still do like having the yardages just in case by some stroke of dumb luck.
I actually hit the ball correctly.
And if I want the right distance, I have to use pin golf.
It just gives me the yardage, and that's all I need, and I go.
And it's affordable.
So listen to what pin golf is doing this December.
So basically, you know,
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you want for the holidays?
It's the most impossible question.
What do you want?
My mom just text me.
What do you want?
You never know what to say because you feel number one like an idiot being like, I want this.
Get me this.
You just don't know what to say.
But unless it's something really good and you know that's going to be useful, you feel
confident in saying that.
Like, oh, you know what?
I could really use a range finder.
I'm always out there on the golf course.
It always feels good when you have something to give them that they can get you.
It's otherwise like socks, I guess.
Yeah, yeah.
You just feel like, I don't know, get me anything.
Like you feel like an idiot.
saying anything and they're just like, all right, I'm not going to get you, I'm not going to get you anything.
Right. So the easiest answer is PIN golf. And from now until 1218, PINGolf is offering their pearl. And it's a hardcover case for $15. So that's $20 off. They're already ridiculously affordable price of $17. And they're guaranteeing that you will get this before Christmas if you order this through 1218. So you're going to have to use the code for play on Pinnedgolf.com. That's P-I-N-N-N-E-D-Golf.com.
For those of you that somehow haven't heard about PIN golf yet, we just told you.
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It's an affordable price.
It's, you don't want to spend that much money on a range finer.
Just trust us.
You're just going to get the yard.
And who are you to say that you're going to use a $400 range finer?
You can barely hit the golf ball.
I'm looking right at you, Trent.
You can barely hit the golf ball.
Like, just get a yardage.
It's simple.
You don't need the elevations and stuff.
Just tell me what it is.
Yeah.
Tell me what it is.
Like I said, that's what I need.
I just, because.
If I hit it good, then I just need to know the distance.
I don't care about anything else.
PIN golf, that's the way to go.
This thing vibrates.
It does everything that you, all of your other things, all your other range finders that
you've tried out or used, your friends have used.
It does everything that you need it to do.
So you're going to want to go to pinned golf, P-I-N-N-E-D-G-O-L-F-L-F.
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Do it.
All right, the only other headline I have, and this was, I just saw it right before he came on here.
Michelle Wee is joining the CBS golf coverage.
I just thought that was cool.
I like Michelle Wee.
I know she's had a bit of an up and down in her career with her wrist injury and all that, but it was announced.
CBS has announced big changes to its broadcast team for the 2020 golf season.
Five-time LPGA tour winner, Michelle We will serve as a contributor for several events, including the Masters.
Wow.
That's what I thought was pretty cool.
Yeah, Michelle We always, I mean, did we ever tell you about the time we went out and got a drink with her?
I have like some fancy smanty hotel
Don't you personally keep running into Michelle?
Yes, I do.
What's that about it?
I don't know what you call that.
I don't even know if there's a word for it.
She is the person that I am constantly running into in this world.
I have that with this guy I walk out of my apartment with.
We have the same schedule.
I mean, that's pretty obvious.
That's like I keep running into you at work.
No, no, no.
I don't know how to explain this.
It's all in the street.
And like I just keep running into this guy.
To the point where I'm going to stop him and ask him what his name is
Or like, what his problem?
You guys could become friends.
Dude, I see this guy everywhere.
And it's not just going to work.
It's like he lives around me, maybe.
But like the city's so big, I see this dude everywhere.
And I know his face.
I know.
Every time I see him, I'm like, do I know that guy?
I'm like, oh, man, it's the guy I saw yesterday.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I have a similar thing with Michelle.
We went and got drinks with her in a big group.
It wasn't just like me, Riggs and Michelle Wee.
It was a big group of people.
It went to some fancy hotel, the rooftop of some fancy hotel and got a drink with her.
It's one of the nice hotels in New York City.
I don't know the name of them because I don't frequent establishments like that.
But then one weekend I watched PFT Commenters Dog and I ran into her in the lobby of that building.
She petted Leroy, if people know Leroy of breaking like NFL news fame.
And then I ran into her at Starbucks just randomly one day.
I was like, there's Michelle We again.
Have you had long enough conversations for her to know who you were if you walked by her?
Nope.
Really?
Because I'll tell you what.
This is almost like you're looking from afar in all these situations.
Well, when I ran into her in the lobby while I was watching PFT's dog, she petted Leroy and she had no idea who I was.
So, like, no, she has no idea.
You know, she was just one of those people that came into her.
You didn't say a word when she was.
I got so nervous.
You didn't say like, Michelle, it's me, true.
Because I didn't want her to have to pretend like she knew who I was, like that she remembered me.
Because I know she doesn't.
It would have taken one second.
No, but if I had been, so think about this.
If I, you know, Leran I are walking through the lobby.
Here comes Michelle Wee.
She's petting the dog.
And I go, oh.
Michelle it's it's uh it's good to see you it's Trent and then she would definitely not remember who
I am and then have to then pretend to know who I am I say it's trend from four play uh we we just got drinks
like we were in the same group like I still think she would be like I would be nervous too so I just
let it happen and if she had said something which she never was going to I would been like yeah yeah
we've met before but instead she you know gave Leroy a couple pats and walked uh walk to the
elevator when do you think we start calling Michelle we Michelle west she's married now yeah she
married Jerry West's son.
Yeah.
Johnny West.
I think with a famous name like Michelle Wee, I think you keep it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If anything, you go, Michelle Wee West.
Yeah, that's her.
Yeah.
That just came off great, actually.
Michelle Wee West.
That's her Twitter handle.
Is it?
Yeah.
That's perfect.
Yeah, it's great.
Michelle We West is a fun name to say.
It's not her Twitter handle.
It's her Twitter handle.
It's her name.
Okay, so she's already doing it.
Michelle We West.
But you can never, she could never go fully Michelle West.
No.
Because then it's like Michelle West on the CBS Mass.
master's coverage.
I'm getting to that point where people I grew up with in high school or not,
the girls are changing their names and it throws me off.
Yeah.
You know?
Like my friend Marissa now has a different last name.
No,
what's that about?
What's that about?
It's like,
who is this person?
Why do you have the name of my other friend?
Right, because they've married somebody too.
Yeah.
It's like everyone on Facebook is just merging into the same person.
Yeah, I don't like that.
No,
you're going to have a lot of that coming up.
When I get married,
I don't think I want my wife to have my last name.
That's going to be controversial.
That's going to be controversial.
Don't take my name.
I am me.
Like,
you're not.
Yeah, but then you become one.
What do you mean?
You become one.
It's part of the sanity of marriage.
I don't like the fact that they lose their identity.
That's very, like, progressive of you.
They usually just make it their, like, middle name.
No.
Maybe you take her name.
My dad will.
Pirelli's is over.
Right.
Burles is officially over.
I know how much pressure there is to have a boy?
Well, is there even because I'm not doing, yeah, well, that's a whole not.
story. Well, I think there is pressure because it's more pressure because you skipped it over.
You passed it up. You're like, no, I'm going to go. We're talking about the restaurant.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking about you taking over the restaurant and then being like, nah, I'm going to go do the Barstals sports thing.
So you have to have a son now that he can then take over. My mom had to have a son.
Yeah. She was forced to. My grandfather, my grandfather, no, she was forced. She had two kids.
They were both girls. And my dad's dad said, you have to have another one. You have to keep going.
Do you think that had an actual effect on what happened?
I don't know.
Maybe.
I think at some point, if it went up to 11 females, I think I would have been the 12th.
I think it just would have kept going.
You just got to keep going.
Do you have that same attitude?
Because you've got to get a male to take over the restaurant.
Why can't, you know, what your daughter could take over the restaurant?
Yeah.
I'm just imagining Frankie's dad, just locking Frankie's kid and Borelli's just like putting him nowhere near podcast, Mike.
Like not even letting him hang out with you probably.
He'll just treat that like his own son.
Boreli's is celebrating their 65th anniversary in 2020.
Congratulations.
That's a long time.
Is there any sort of date or do you...
September, I guess, is usually like our celebration month.
You got a while.
Right, 1955 to 2020.
Yeah.
65 years.
I don't know.
Do the math.
Yeah.
Yeah.
September.
A lot of things could happen between now in September.
No, yeah.
I didn't mean that.
What was that?
I don't know.
I don't know why I said that.
We are going to Australia, so you never know.
We are going to Australia.
I'm so nervous.
This is our last show before we go to Australia.
Australia.
What do you think about that?
I'm nervous.
I know we talked about it in the last show, but I'm very nervous.
Dude, I remember we spent the whole show and the listeners probably wanted to murder us?
We spent a whole show about us flying private and like how nervous we were.
Yeah.
I'm flying private tomorrow with a band like Leonard Skinner.
You're basically taking all the things that we joked about.
We joked about and trying to like.
Like you guys were like, oh, Frankie's in a makeshift band and he's on our flight.
So we're going to go down.
I'm flying with a guitarist, a bassist, a bassist, a singer.
You're the drummer.
And that's it.
We're flying private right into Missouri.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, bands, it's windy as shit outside.
It's been snowing.
Oh, man, it's been so windy.
Bands historically don't have a great, you know, track record with private planes.
You're going to be fine.
You're going to be fine.
And then you're going to come back and we're going to fly 23 hours to Australia.
It's just going to be a lot of things right in a row.
Let's do a couple from the galleries.
And then we'll get out of here.
We'll toss it to Riggs talking about his round down in Bermuda.
If you want to email from the galleries, we're always looking for them for play.
at barstolesports.com send them put from the gallery in the in the subject line and maybe we'll
get to them send good ones we got a couple here the first one's from brendon he said if you hop the
fence through the woods at augusta with an iron and a ball how many swings on a weekday at noon
could you get in before you get tackled all right so it's a weekday yeah it's a twos it's a wednesday
afternoon wednesday after in augusta georgia yep and i'm just going to go rogue i'm not
I see the fence
I run past the guard
Which we now know that they have an armed guard outside
The thought of Playa Augusta has consumed you to the point
You see to get one shot
I just need to get on there
And I want to I'm going to do it today on this Wednesday afternoon
And this guy is saying you go through the woods
There's no way you go through the front gate
You can't go through the front
You creep as if this guy thinks that like
Every single part of the woods isn't like
Booby trap where if you step on one part of the ground
You just get sucked up into the air
But you definitely can't try the front
Because they're going to be like get out of here
scram. So I think you sneak through the woods. You have a ball in your hand. You have an iron in
your hand. How many shots can you get in before, you know, you see the security coming out.
You get tackled. Or you probably just get disappeared because. All right. My thing is that you get one,
you're going to get like one, probably get like five minutes out there. So however many balls are
that you get in five minutes. I think the better question is if you have one chance to run like as
hard as you can, right? Yeah. What shot are you hitting? Oh, that's a good one. Like, are you? Like,
you hitting a drive are you going to one and like pipe in a drive are you trying to are you going to
18 and trying to hit one through the the really thin hallway that is 18 with the trees are you are you going
to 12 to try and hit it over the water and try and hit the green are are are you are hitting a chip shot
on 11 with the crazy humps are what are you doing first the first thought is 12 but I don't know why
that was my first thought because I my irons are so bad that that wouldn't even be worth it to me 12 is
the most historic and that's the one like people would probably like oh did you go run out and play 12
So I wouldn't do that.
I think I would go to 18 and try to pipe a drive through that little narrow corridor.
You have no chance because you have so much movement left to right on your t shot.
I still think I can make it happen.
I know you can't.
I would try my hours.
That's what I would want to do.
I would want to go to 18 and hit it.
It has to be a drive.
It has to be a drive on one or 18.
Yeah, because that's the one I hit the most consistently.
And I don't want, it's for me personally because I don't want to go out there and chunk a wedge shot trying to get up, trying to get up onto the green.
So for me, I think the, I think the no-brainer is.
is you run to 12 with a seven iron, right?
It's like a 155-yard shot.
I know the wins and everything,
but I think I run to 12 with a seven iron and a ball,
and I hear people running in the distance.
They're running down 11.
They're trying to get me.
I just got to 12.
I take my time.
I know I'm going to get tackled.
I know that I'm going to get arrested.
I know my life is over,
but I put a ball in a T.
I step away for a second.
I can literally hear the rumblings behind me.
Yeah.
But you know what?
I'm just behind the ball.
I'm lining up my iron, and I'm staring at this pin on 12, and I just step up nice and calmly,
and I rip a 7 iron as hard as I can.
It goes up there in the swirling winds.
Hopefully it goes over the bunker and just lands nice and soft.
I hit like a 170 shot.
It goes perfect right onto the green, and then I get tackled.
Like, literally I'm like, I have a perfect follow-through, and then I just get slowly, slow-motion
tackled onto the ground.
As long as they let me know where the ball went, I'm fine.
Yeah, like as you're getting carried out, like, where'd that land?
The reason why I think I want to hit an iron shot, especially on 12, is that, like,
you can compare that shot to a pro.
For sure.
Right?
It's a 155-yard shot.
Anyone can hit it.
You can do that.
I can't compare my drive to a Rory McElroy through the shoot on 18.
Now, I would love to hit one on 18 and, like, simulate me walking up the fairway.
Yeah.
And then get tackled on the fairway as you walk up, right?
The only reason I say, no, I couldn't do 12 is because my irons are so bad.
I can't hit it consistent enough.
Yeah, and that makes sense.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, like, if you're going to have one shot,
for the rest of your life to know that like you ruined you got arrested over it like it's
something that you you the way you you pose this hypothetical was that like it's consumed you
want to hit the augusta national shot yeah it's got to be 12 yeah and if you're thinking about it
from a headline sense you're like man runs on to augusta national and plays blank hole before
getting that number to be 12 you know it's got to be 12 that's the one that's getting the most clicks
that's the one people are most interested in i just can't hit an iron shot to save my goddamn life so
i just couldn't do it
Let's do let's rip through a couple more of these
From the galleries
This was a really weird one that I just I had to throw in here
I don't even know if we're gonna answer it, but it's from Nick
He said would you rather play Augusta National one time
Or give the boss man massages for the rest of your life
But never be able to play golf again
Isn't that the weirdest one thing you've ever heard in your life
Like
Oh man
Here's the thing though
So you play Augusta once
You get to do it
Just like a real round.
You get to play.
You're not going to get tackled.
Or you get to give,
or you get to be Tiger Woods' masseuse for the rest of your life.
Number one,
that sounds like a bird.
You never get to retire.
It's a burden.
Number two,
what does that come with?
Like,
like,
like,
do you become Tiger,
like does Tiger,
is Tiger friendly with his masseuse?
Are you in,
yeah,
are you in the inner circle?
Do you get to go to all the tournaments with them and like be his buddy?
I don't know.
What is the job of his current masseuse is like,
this one is,
it was framed like basically,
you get to,
touch the boss man and give him massages.
I would love to touch the boss man.
It's a funny, like...
I would love to, especially in like, unexposed areas.
Okay.
Not his penis.
Not there.
What?
Not there.
That's what everybody thinks would you say that.
No, I meant like his inner thigh.
Like, like, oh my goodness.
I'm just kidding.
No, I know.
I know.
But like, it's a good question to be like, not to be the mass masseuse, but like being
tigers and masseuse is probably like pretty cool.
It's probably awesome.
There's also a ton of pressure because his body's always like, he's always got to get rubbed out.
Like his body's always getting tight.
Well, I don't think I want that kind of pressure.
I don't want that pressure either.
But man, you get to be in Tiger's inner circle.
It's a weird fucking question.
It was really weird.
When I went through the, normally Riggs goes through the emails and looks at him, this one stopped me in my tracks.
I know why you probably didn't get the really good from the guys?
Because like you just skipped over all like the Rigsie wrecks and all that stuff.
Anything I said Rigsie, you just went right through.
So like.
Yeah.
Anything with Rigsie question.
I don't think I clicked on that one.
Let's just do one more quick one.
With all the gems you guys get to play,
do you guys collect any items from each place you play?
Do you buy anything specifically from like the clubhouses we go to?
Like at Pinehurst and all the cool places we've gotten to go to Tobacco Road?
So like, I'm sorry.
So, like, he's basically saying we get to play all these cool courses.
We get to go to all these awesome places.
What do you take home with you that you can,
you'll always be like, oh, I played that place.
Like I always buy ballmarkers.
I buy a couple ball markers and just throw them in my bag.
So then the next time I play, whether it be at the place we're at or, you know, somewhere
across the country, it'll be like tobacco road and I'll be a ballmarker.
I'll be like, oh, that's a cool place that we went to.
I think I've done a shitty job, if we're being honest.
Yeah.
Of like really keeping like keepsakes of where we're, where we've been and where we're going and all this stuff.
Right.
I've actually been better for like the people that are like, like, my girlfriend's dad.
Like I'll bring home a ballmarker for him.
him because I know he's better at keeping that stuff than I am.
Like, I'll just throw stuff in my bag and, like, it'll be gone forever.
Like, I don't look for it.
I don't have, like, good enough organization in my brain to be able to do that.
Yeah.
So, like, I'll always give a gift and let people know.
It's also like a flex.
Like, hey, I was here at this place.
Here's a little coin.
And I flick it at him.
You flick it out.
You know?
That's nice.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I always try to do.
Historically, my girlfriend's dad and I have, have a weird little thing going on.
In terms of gift giving it's strange with you too.
Yeah.
It's a, there's something going on that, I don't know.
Have I talked about that?
Yeah.
We're, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But did I talk about how he got me something?
Maybe not.
So, like, I got him, I got him a master's, um, uh, college shirt.
Yeah, I got him a master's college shirt.
Yeah.
And I gave it to him and he had never been to the master's huge golf fan.
Yeah.
And he was like, thank you so much.
That's so great.
And, you know, months go by and we're talking and there and that.
And his one of his friends was going away.
And someone said, like,
Like, oh, I think they're on the phone.
They're like, hey, do you want Ryan to pick you up a shirt to him?
And I was in the room and he goes, no, no.
And he says under his breath, like, I hate getting stuff from places I'd never been to,
especially when I really want to go there.
And I'm thinking, well, fuck me, man.
I gave you a fucking Augusta National College shirt.
Right.
You have never been there.
So then, like, a couple months go by, they go to Bandon Dunes without me.
I think I actually have told it.
They go to Bandon Dunes without me.
Right.
Oh, maybe you have, yeah.
Well, no, I said that they were going to Bandon Dunes without him.
He came back and gave me abandoned dunes shirt.
It's just a war that's going on.
It's super like behind the scenes.
And like subtle.
S subtle.
It's very subtle digs like.
Right.
Because he knew I wanted to go to Van Dunes real bad.
And he,
yeah,
and he's got the thing about the masters.
I mean,
it's,
you know,
I don't know what's going to happen between you too.
I feel like this war is going to go on until one of you passes away.
Well,
that's,
that's so horrible to say.
I'm just saying.
Oh my God.
I'm just saying.
Let me tell you something since we're on the topic of my girlfriend, which I don't know why, but she wears scrubs to work.
Yes.
And I actually got her these figs.
It's a company that makes the most stylish, comfortable scrubs you've ever seen.
I have a pair of them.
I'm not in the medical profession.
I should be nowhere near the medical profession.
But I was sent a few of these and I wear them around the apartment like their soft clothes.
They are so comfortable.
They change her life.
Yeah.
I mean, you're wearing the same scrubs every single day.
Scrubs seem like they could be a comfortable thing
No matter what company makes them
But that's just incorrect
Figgs saw that like laps in the market
And they're like we're gonna make
These like jogger looking really slick
Like I saw a dude in Figs one day on the subway
Yeah
And he was so cool looking
He was a ripped male nurse right
This dude looked awesome
Yeah
He wasn't like a gay lord Focker one
You know from the movie
Yep
He was like a
Like his name was probably like Antonio
Oh yeah
And his like he's like
He had like curly hair and he was ripped like ripped and he was wearing figs, man.
I knew the logo like Figgs has a sick logo.
Yep.
And he was wearing joggers and Yeezys like the jogger Figgs pants.
I'm like this dude, this dude could give me any sort of exam in the world, you know?
Because he's just cool.
Like for sure.
He's cool.
And Figgs does that to you.
Like Figgs is going to make you a cool and comfortable.
You don't have to be a nurse or a radiation therapist or all these things.
You can just be Trent sitting down eating Sour Patch kids and watch.
movies. Damn, I do love
Sourbatch Kids. That's like the number one thing I buy.
I feel like I run
I feel like you know like a little bit too much
about my like relaxing time
that that just freaked me out like you like have a camera
in my apartment or something.
Figgs is making amazing
an amazing company that is making scrub stylish
and functional for the people who deserve it most
for years, nurses, doctors and dentists and
other awesome medical professions
professionals were forced to wear scratchy, ill-fitting
scrubs which is what I just said.
Not only were they ugly and uncomfortable, but they weren't
designed with innovative technical properties to protect and hold life-saving tools.
Figgs creates the highest quality medical apparel so that medical professionals look their best, feel their best, and perform their best at every single day at work.
Figs scrubs are infused with anti-microbial.
Anti-microbial.
Okay.
No, I don't think you got that.
I don't think you got that.
You got that.
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His horrible round in Bermuda.
The President's Cup.
We're going.
We're going to Australia.
That's coming up.
We are going to Australia.
You excited?
I'm nervous.
You know, because at the end of the day, it's just a place, Australia.
Yeah, it's a place that's very far away.
It's a place and getting there is a nightmare.
And I don't care what people say like, oh, you're going Australia.
It's a once in a lifetime.
Yeah, it is a once in a lifetime.
You know why?
Because the travel's so bad people don't want to go back.
Right.
It's sort of like a once in a lifetime trip.
You just go and then you don't.
When I said once in a lifetime, would you think that I meant by that?
Oh, did you say that?
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I missed that.
No, that's okay.
I'm sorry.
But it's like a once in a lifetime trip.
Yeah, somewhat.
Some would say.
Do people say that?
I think you said it.
I think that it is the most once in a lifetime trip.
I think it's even more than Hawaii.
Well, the reason it is more than Hawaii
Because it's a once in a lifetime
But only it's not the positive one
No one wants to sit on a plane for 23 hours
It doesn't matter where you're no person
It doesn't end like if you're from America
If you're in California
It's still 16 hours
You can't get away from the length
Yeah
You just can't do it
And I know there's other places in the world
Like I think Thailand's like a 16 to 18 hour flight
Like there are a lot of places in the world
In which I think like what New Zealand's probably even longer
Right
It's got to be yeah
It's further
I think so
I also
don't get like the whole map thing.
I don't know.
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Now we're going to throw to Riggs, who just got done playing his round in Bermuda.
He didn't have a great day.
We'll see what he blames it on.
He's going to say that it was windy.
But here's rigs.
Yeah, he's going to, I'm sorry.
I know that you tried to just lay it off there.
That's okay.
You know, Riggs, if you listen back to this, I'm sorry for the way I spoke.
I don't want to get into a physical altercation with you.
That's why I tried to speak behind your back.
I hope, Jake, you're in this room.
I hope we just take his audio and put it in so he doesn't have to hear it.
No.
Okay.
That's just him just being nice to Riggs.
I think that Riggs is going to blame everything but his swing.
That's what I think.
And if he doesn't, then good on him.
But here it is.
We're all listening to this for the first time together.
It's one of those moments.
It's like I haven't listened to it yet.
The listeners haven't listened to it yet.
They're probably screaming just give it to us.
Yep.
I'm going to give it to you right now.
Here it is.
Okay, live from Bermuda.
You are now joined by myself and producer Andrew.
Andrew, Andrew, say hello.
How we doing?
So we've been in Bermuda for three days, three and a half days.
We got here Sunday evening.
You guys heard all about me talking whenever I could over the other guys talking on the phone, on Skype,
about Bermuda.
We had just gotten here.
We are chilling on a nice patio.
We were overlooking the beach.
The sun was setting.
It did set, and then I just became incredibly dark, which was wild.
But the big hype was playing in the Gosslings Invitational.
Gosslings Rum brought us out here.
They put on this really cool golf tournament.
It's a mix of pros and amateurs.
A lot of really good players, especially in the amateur ranks.
You had Matt Parsiali, who anybody who listens to this show knows well.
He's been on a few different.
times. He was on radio and we were live from Shinnecock and Pebble Beach. He finished
low amateur, tied for low amateur at Shinnecock U.S. Open a little over a year ago.
He won the U.S. midameter the fall prior to that. That's why he got to play in the
Masters. He played in the practice round that same year with Tiger Woods, played in the Masters.
I mean, he can flat out play. He can play. He's legit. He was a pro for a while, and then he actually,
he hung him up and got his amateur status back.
Brockton firefighter, that whole story.
He's the fucking man.
He's a stoolie.
He's obviously Brockton Mask guy out of Thorny Lee.
So Parzy Alley's here, there's a bunch of good players.
Herbie Haken's, if anybody's ever heard that name, if you know anything about the Amateur Circuit in the Northeast,
especially the Boston area, you know that name.
Bottom line is like this tournament draws legit good players.
And it's not just like a getaway to Bermuda for.
for a lot of these people.
They're here.
They're here to win.
And they're also here to drink a lot of rum, which affects some people's play.
We've had a lot of darkenstormers.
A lot of darken stormies.
Trademarked darken stormies.
Crazy thing about Gossings, I didn't know this, that the, the Darken Stormy is one of the few
trademarked cocktails in the world.
What that means is if you go to a bar and order a Dark and Stormy, they aren't put another
rum in it.
It's like the Darken Stormy is with Gossi.
Rums Rums and ginger beer.
Is that correct?
Ginger beer.
Gosslings ginger beer.
Which is amazing.
So look, we're here on Bermuda.
Gosslings is founded in Bermuda.
That's where it started.
It's all over the place out here, which is very cool.
There's been dark and stormies and goslings rum.
Different kinds of rum, the silver rum.
I don't even know that they have that they don't even export some of it.
Yes, some of it.
Two or three, you can only get in Bermuda or at duty-free in Bermuda.
Right, right, right.
So look, it's, it's, Bermuda's a wild place.
Producer Andrew just got his bags.
So if you guys recall, I said on the last show that on Sunday it was maybe 5, 6 p.m.
when I was recording the show and that Andrew up to that point, we'd only been here for about two or three hours, had been completely and utterly dominated by Bermuda.
I mean, just dominated.
He didn't get his bags.
What else couldn't you figure out?
We didn't have data on the cell phone, which trying to run social media without.
data is tough.
We're a social media fucking company.
We're a, we're a media brand.
That's what we do.
You've got to be attached to the internet, to the world.
He couldn't get data.
Couldn't get his bags.
Well, turns out he just, in Bermuda, like, if something doesn't come to Bermuda,
this Iowa in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, it ain't fucking coming.
And your bags, they were gone.
They just were gone.
It was Bermuda Triangle.
They were lost.
Yeah, we kept saying they got Bermuda Triangled.
At one point today.
And honestly, that's what, like, the airline in the hotel was telling you.
They're like, no, no, they just are like,
like gone. I can't tell you how many hours I spent on customer service between the phone and the
bags and walking between the concierge and the front desk and the bellman. And they're all like,
oh, we're all here to help. This is great. And then they're like, oh, it's after five. Yeah,
we're not going to be able to talk to anyone. The airport doesn't pick up the phone after 5 p.m.
No one. You get a, you get a voicemail in 2019. That's crazy town. This place also, they don't,
the only way you can get around is cabs. You can't rent the car. You can rent. I,
guess these uh the scooters but like we got golf clubs and stuff we can't be written scooters so you
can't rent a car because i guess it's deemed like too dangerous there's no cars to rent you have to take
a cab everywhere the cabs only take cash we didn't bring much cash i got 200 bucks went through it
immediately so you got a you gotta you gotta cash and take a cab everywhere which again
fine we're not complaining we're in bermuda but like eventually you run out of cash then you're
time to get a cab to take a card none of them take cards you actually can't get from one location to
the other so bermuda
has, for us, American boys, who are very comfortable in our American ways.
Bermuda has kind of kicked our ass, and that's going to lead us up to the actual golf.
I think a lot of people are excited to hear about the golf.
Stroke play.
Okay, competitive golf.
You hear this all the time.
Competitive golf is so, so different than recreational golf, than fun golf.
People say that.
Everybody who's ever played competitive golf says that.
You all know people out there.
If you're listening to this golf pass golf podcast, you have a buddy who played
college golf or who's played in amateurs or you know a guy who's gone pro.
Competitive golf is a whole different world than amateur golf.
The ball's got to go in the hole.
If you hit one out of play, you can't be like, oh, we'll go up there and see you.
And then if you can't find it, just take a drop.
Like, no, if you can't get one in play, like, you just stand there and keep hitting
them until one's in play and you keep taking a stroke penalties.
And then you've got to, like, get the ball.
So it's just, it's different.
It's you're nervous.
You got the rhythms.
It's not the same.
It's just like being out there.
music playing with your crew and you're just kind of hitting whenever you're ready it's like the the pace
is going to be different you're very much kind of subject to like everything and everyone around you if
the guy that you're playing with hits like four puts in a row and lines every single one of them up like
you got to just stand there and watch them do that and then you got to go and try to make one uh right after
it's just yeah it's hard and i don't think people understand how hard is like you have to get the
ball in the hole they're like oh well that's the point of golf like duh like there's no oh that's
That's a foot and a half.
That's good.
Well, a foot and a half in like 40-mile-hour winds downhill.
You're like, I could three-putt from here.
And people did.
Oh, people did.
We, so, you know, look, I want to get to the wind.
It's really not possible to convince anyone listening of the true nature of the wind because anyone that's listening to be like, yeah, everybody always says, like, I played around.
It was super, super windy, or it could be used as an excuse.
or it's just really hard to transplant yourself from sitting at your desk or scrolling through your phone
and hearing and seeing some wind on the phone and being, oh, yeah, it looks a little windy.
And then understanding what it was actually like to play in this stuff.
Andrew was there filming the whole thing.
He was rigged track.
He did a great job, by the way.
Thank you.
He was rigs tracker.
He was filming and tweeting out every freaking shot from the whole thing.
Two rounds of competitive play.
I shot 103 at Port Royal.
And I shot...
Very good 103.
Thank you.
And I shot 100 at mid-ocean.
The wind at Port Royal yesterday, recording this Wednesday evening.
The wind at Port Royal yesterday, I would say, was significantly worse than any wind I've ever experienced in my life.
You couldn't hear yourself.
It just was different.
It was so much more severe than anything I've ever experienced.
And I want to get to before people say like, yeah, yeah, that's just your excuse your Bush.
definitely I didn't play good golf
103 is not a good score
but some scores that I would like to highlight
to defend myself and my performance
are this. Matt Parsiali
who at the United States
Open at Shinnecock last year
went 73, 74, 73, 75
never shot worse than 75
he shot 81 yesterday
we had Damien who's the guy
who I played with who's a local
We're huge Damien guys
great dude he played golf at
Um, URI.
Very good player.
He finished second in the amateur part of the tournament last year.
So he finished second.
So again, you heard, you heard, no, he didn't, Parsiali didn't finish first last year.
So you heard, I don't believe so.
Does that a fact?
I thought that's what Damien said, but we weren't here.
I could be wrong.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I'm not sure about that.
But regardless, he finished, Parziali finished.
Damien finished.
Damien was my partner.
Okay, you get paired up with random people in golf.
That's how it works.
how competitive golf works.
We rode in a cart together for three days straight.
We had a great time.
Awesome dude.
Chill dude.
Very good player.
He finished second last year in the amateur part of this tournament.
He shot 85 in the first round and I think 78 today.
Yeah.
We had Shannon Johnson, I believe, is her last name.
She won the women's mid-amateur.
I believe.
And I think she shot 90 in the first round at Port Royal.
So again, I'm not sitting here trying to be like, oh, my God, how many excuses can I put out there?
Because I want everyone to think I'm good at golf because if you listen to the show, you know, I don't give a shit if you think I'm good at golf.
I know I'm not good at golf.
I know I stink at golf.
We talk all the time about how you stand on the T and you have completely different golf swing on the first T, on the second T, on the ninth T, on the 18th T.
Why is that the case?
Because I stink at golf.
We all stick at golf.
That's the beauty of this show.
That's why we're here.
And if I was good, I would be consistent because golf's all about being consistent.
Completely inconsistent.
That's why some days I can shoot in 78 and I can go out in competitive golf and shoot 103 100.
So having said all of that, the conversations with people with Parsi Alley tonight about Port Royal yesterday.
And Port Royal, too, you got to understand like the back nine of the course, which is what
we started on.
So me and Damien start in the back nine.
The back nine is super exposed the whole time.
The front nine, most of it is a little bit.
You kind of, you go down and you're in a little bit of the lowlands.
And that's protected by trees to an extent.
A little more inward.
Totally.
And it's still not, it's not like the wind doesn't.
I mean, you have like 50 mile an hour winds.
You're in like mini valleys.
It's going to affect everything.
But that first, the first nine holes.
that we played, which again, I don't, it's like wintertime.
It's not like I'm going to the driving range.
I played one round on Saturday with my boys back home in 45 degrees in raining.
And outside of that, I hadn't played since North Carolina, which was, what, a month ago?
Yeah.
That was the last time I'd played before that.
So it's not like I'm practicing.
And then you step up in the first tee that I have to play, it was like a 50 mile an hour right to left wind with trees and like OB left.
And they announce your name and there's a bunch of people standing around that.
I duck hook one into a tree.
Don't know where it goes.
So you got to hit a provisional.
I top that one.
Go up there.
Turns out my first one's fine.
And I'm like 180 out, but I got to hit a big hook around a tree.
Hit it up there short of the green.
Chip on.
I've got like, what, 40 feet for par?
Yeah, you, yeah.
It was, you know, lag it up there.
You know, we can get out of here with bogey kind of thing.
And then you can pick it up from there.
That's what I was thinking.
I'm thinking like, oh, man, we're doing this is fine.
Like we got a parbed usually a pretty good putter.
I mean, it was a 40 foot putt that was downwind that was uphill.
And I hit it and it just rolled forever.
I hit that next put about a foot past the hole, maybe 10 inches past the hole above the hole.
And I'm like, I'll just clean up real quick.
Hit that one, misses the hole, goes to like four or five feet and I make that for triple.
So right out of the gate after all the chatter, after all the excitement,
after thinking what are you going to shoot?
I want to prove some of these idiots wrong.
I can play good rounds just as much as I can play bad rounds.
You never know.
Triple right out of the game.
And that hole is like 330 yards.
So I'm thinking like, that's not good.
Next hole is straight downwind, straight downwind, probably like 420 or something like that.
Yeah, easy hole in comparison to the rest of them.
Kind of just have to throw it into the wind, let it take it.
There's room right.
I hit a drive right, but it's fine in the rough.
I hit a wedge to like 10 feet.
And I'm thinking, all right, we're in good shape here.
I end up two putton, make par, and it's like, all right, I can make pars out here.
And then we just went straight back into the wind for the next seven holes, something like that, six holes.
And it was a fucking nightmare.
It just beat the hell out of you to the point where, you know, when you're standing on a T and you're using the driver,
which is obviously the biggest club head face.
and when you pull the driver back,
you can feel the wind affecting,
like literally affecting the club
as you pull it back dramatically.
Then it throws everything out of sync
that's already out of sync
because you stink at golf.
So that was happening.
Damien at that point,
like he had made two pars in a row
and I'm thinking, here we go.
Then he goes like bogey, bogey.
The next hole, he hits a good drive
that just gets completely stolen by the wind
and goes 30,
yards out of bounds. He hits another one that was like a similar drive, but ends up staying barely
inbound and makes a pretty good double. Me on the same hole, I make triple. I hit one out of
bounds, obviously. Then the next hole, it's like, okay, we're going straight out towards the ocean.
OB left. Bush is right. Cliff and Bush is right. There's a cliff's on the left.
Yeah. Bushes are on the right. But it's like you can't, you obviously, you can't miss anywhere.
Hit one left out of bounds. I hit a provisional, a million yards.
right and it's just wearing on you this whole time of like okay i've already hit one out of play it's
it's raining a little bit like it's going on it's like i got to stand on this tea and i've got to
now lying two hitting my third i've got to hit the same t shot that i just couldn't hit in bounds
and try to somehow keep it in play and it just was like that for five and a half hours straight you
couldn't hear we couldn't hear each other talk so right now we're we're six feet away yeah we
would not be able to have a conversation if we were this distance away.
Not even close.
We're screaming at each other in like pretty much in the cart together sometimes.
Yep.
And you had to scream at each other.
So it was, it was, it's difficult to, again, to explain sort of what what playing in that was like, especially
when it's not a situation where you could be like, oh, my partner's good.
I'll take triple or I'll take double.
And we'll just kind of see what happens.
It's like, no, you hit one out of play, dude.
like everyone that's involved in this group is standing on the tee waiting for you to go get a ball and hit another one.
And if you don't hit that one and play, guess what?
You're doing it again.
Another thing I've never, ever, ever been a part of on the golf course is where the wind significantly affects chips.
And I'm talking chips like within 15 yards of the green and not affects them like the ball spins, right?
Like I know that when you chip into the wind, the ball will stop.
And when you chip downwind, the ball will not stop as much.
That's not what I'm talking about.
I'm talking like you have a 10-yard chip, a little bit uphill, maybe over some rough,
and you hit it up in the air with your 60-degree wedge.
And in the air, you can see it go from a chip that's going to end up within 10 feet
to it literally gets knocked down, sent 10 feet to the right and backwards,
and rolls off the green almost back down to like your feet.
And it wasn't just, I feel like it wasn't just the chips too.
Like a bunker shot comes out low
You know like low little spin
And you'd have a bunker shot be like
Oh like that'll roll out for sure
It's downhill
And it's almost like it just hits a wall
On the green
Like it just hits a speed bump
Running into gravity
It's like it's hard to comprehend
Some of the way the balls
Carried out low to the ground
There were some insane things happening
There was on the back nine
So the front nine of Port
Royal on our back nine on the first round so Tuesday's round I I hit a four iron on I guess it's
the fourth hole third hole what's that part three maybe the third hole third or fourth
hole it's part three I think it's probably the third hole and it was one I think we had one
38 to the flag and I hit a choke down four iron it was straight into the wind straight into the
win. I had a choke down four iron about 15 feet above the hole right at it. Damien, who's
way better than I am and flushes the ball, hit a five iron that was just on the front right part
of the green, not quite pin high. So that's like how serious and intense it was. You know, my four iron
probably goes 190, I would be my guess. Maybe 195 if it's like a nice normal warm day, maybe 185 if it's a
cold day and that thing legitimately went it went a hundred and what forty three yards yeah it was
140 yards the third hole 140ish but the wind yeah but i'm saying we we put the laser it was
138 to the flag the ball was a little bit behind it and it was like a 143 shot and it was flushed
like it was one of the ones where people on like you see the the tracker on you know social media
and you're like oh look at tiger hit this stinger or look at brooks keppka lay into one
off the tee like with a two iron you're like oh this is actually a par three 140 shot and we're
hitting stingers into the wind with the four iron yeah like as best i can't you know my stinger
probably goes a little bit lower than like oh it was i mean i it was it was just crazy to see
that you and damien both cured it and i was like oh that that only went 140 yards yeah it was
something it was something and um so then you know today's round i felt a little bit better mid ocean is
I would say currently a golf course that I hate, but that I know I will love.
The reason that I say that is because Mid-Ocean, it's a CB McDonald design.
It's got a ton of blind shots, which I typically don't mind, especially because, you know, blind shots,
a lot of times when you play a course for the first time that's blind shots,
again, I almost exclusively play fun recreational golf.
And usually you're going to be out there with a member or two that's had you out,
buddies that have played it before, they'll direct you exactly where you're going.
And it's like, you just, this is exactly what you're looking at.
and it's not super windy, so you can just talk to each other about stuff.
They could be like, yeah, yeah, no, if you hit this 20 yards short of the green,
it'll actually take a hill and roll onto the front edge, is a good spot.
Well, we're playing competitive golf.
The only guy I'm with, really, that knows it is Damien, who, again, great dude,
but, like, he's playing his own round.
He's grinding.
And no caddies.
No caddies for anyone, by the way.
He's not, like, standing there trying to work on, like, telling me everything about the course.
So a lot of the holes, I was standing up to step up to the T, it's completely blind being, like,
I have no fucking clue
And that wore on me so hard
And a lot of times it was like
You couldn't especially like there were times
You couldn't even fucking get the distance to the pin
Because you couldn't even see where the pin was
Because it was so uphill and blind
Yeah
That it's like I don't know where the pin is
I don't know what the distance is
I don't even know where the green is
And I got a 50 mile an hour wind
Like slightly off the left in my face
And I can't even yell and ask somebody
Because they can't hear me
So that kind of wore
on me. I did love the classics. It's got the templates. It has a beer it's. It's got a lot of cool
holes. The cape hole. We filmed the Riggsverse on the Cape Hole. Insanely sick hole. So the course,
I'm sure the first like five holes are on the water. A few, a handful of T-boxes that are
as epic as it gets with the water crashing in the background. Really cool backgrounds on the T-boxes.
Bermuda has like that teal because of the coral or whatever the hell it is that goes out a couple hundred
yards that changes the color so it's like that amazing stunning teal color so you're excuse me you're
kind of looking at that hitting being like oh man like what a world i'm living in and then you got to
step up again and try to hit like a shot with all the action going on it was just it was a lot
happening it was a lot happening it's a i know it's a cool course that i would otherwise like
but today and in the current state that i'm in i hated it i was so mad at it i was so upset i
Every time I had another blind shot, and I didn't know where the fuck I was supposed to hit it.
And then I would hit it where I was guessing was right.
And then I'd get up there and it was in like a shit bunker.
And then I was mad at myself and I'm a mentally weak person when it comes to a competitive golf.
So I'd be upset for like 10 minutes and that would take two or three more shots off.
Then we had one of the one of Damien and the guys boys, Dave joined us, who's a very good golfers zone.
And Dave, we just picked up Dave on the side of the fairway like, oh, did this guy need a ride?
and like, oh, no, it's my buddy Dave.
He just, he just showed up and has beers.
And I'm like, oh, all right.
The first thing he said to me.
I got to know who the fuck this guy was.
And he came rolling.
I was, I was like standing right behind Damien hitting a shot.
And Dave comes over to me as Damien's getting ready to hit.
And he just whispers, he goes, you want a Heineken?
I was like, all right, I'm Dave.
Nice to meet you.
And he gave me a hyniquet.
So Dave was the man.
And he was like, he tried to play pro golf for a while.
And then he's kind of hung him up ever since.
Doesn't play much.
But clearly he's got the bug because he was out there.
But then he started giving me lines, which was great.
So then Dave starts giving me lines and tell me a little bit about the course, which really helped, very much helped.
And he got me on 16.
I made the first birdie, the only birdie of my 36 holes on the 16th hole, which everyone said was by far the hardest hole of the whole damn 36 holes,
which, shocker that like I would burdy that hole.
But I hit a great drive.
I had 1.18 to the flag, straight into the wind, straight into the wind and off the right.
And I hit a punch seven iron that came up, I don't know, 10 yards short, wasn't even close,
which is like my 160, 165 club, wasn't even close.
And then I chipped in.
I think you probably saw that one on Twitter.
Chipped in.
I was all pumped with Dave.
Next hole, 175 yards into the wind, three wood.
Yes.
I hit a three wood.
Part three, I hit a three wood into the wind.
I was just right of the green.
Damien hit a three wood as well.
He was just on the back part of the green, and then it rolled back on and rolled off the front
because the wind was so severe straight at us.
It blew his ball, which had settled behind the green, on the fringe behind the green.
It blew his ball off the front of the green.
This was not a false front situation.
Nope.
He was on the green comfortably.
With a three wood.
It's like he spun it off the green.
He pounds the ball.
I think he probably hits that three wood comfortably, two-thirty.
220 at least, and he pounded this.
And it just rolled, it rolled what, like 30 feet off the green with the wind?
He's got to hit his 3-050, 260.
Yeah?
Oh my gosh.
I mean, he crushed it.
I believe it.
Dude, he, so Damien on the par 511th hole at mid-ocean, he had 230 into the green straight into the wind.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Yeah, that has to be 250.
So that's a 250-2-60.
Easy.
And he hit that on a 175-yard hole.
and he was like, I've never hit three, he's a member there.
He said, I've never had to hit three wood here in my life.
And he hit three wood that, again, landed on the back edge of the green and rolled off.
That's how bad the wind was.
This is the easier day.
Today was easier than yesterday.
And then on 18, here we go.
You know, I'm standing there.
I'm coming off.
I had bogied the hole before, buried the hole before that, which all things considered was damn good.
18T is all ocean down the right.
You're on a cliff.
Beautiful.
T-box is stunning.
Beautiful view.
It's like this little, it's almost like a reverse pebble beach 18th T, but like higher and actually more stunning, sits up there.
The waves are crashing and the wind's actually off the right.
So it's all bushes and like cliff off the right.
You can hit it way left and the clubhouse is left.
But again, it's a blind shot.
Like you can't see where your ball is actually going to land.
You have no clue where it's going to land.
It kind of goes over a little bit of a hill.
And my boy Dave kind of lines me up and he's like, it's just at that pink house in the distance, which is over the bushes on the.
right that are out of bounds but i was thinking like all right there must be way closer than i think
those bushes that must be one of those situations you just bomb it over them and it's wide open up
there and i hit a drive that was a hair right of where he said i'll say that it was a hair right of
the line but i was like that still should be pretty good the wind's blowing in a little bit and a little bit
one and i and and dave's like yeah it's borderline and i was like all right like i'll hit a
provisional i hit another one on a little bit of a line just inside of that was thinking that was good
that was out of bounds.
So then I hit another one well left away.
They were saying that one trundled down the fairway forever, goes into a fairway bunker.
And I was chatting with day.
I ended up making a 10, folks.
I ended up making a 10.
And that put me at 100 on the exact number.
So six over bar on the last hole puts me at a 103 and then a 100.
Now, I was talking with my boy, Dave, after.
And he made a great point, whereas he was like, he was like, I was talking with Damien.
and I was saying, he's like, as we were finishing up the hole, I was saying, you know, the worst thing you can ever say to somebody in golf is, eh, that one's borderline.
He's like, because all you're doing is you are giving them false hope that if it's then ripped out, they're going to be rattled.
Yeah.
And devastated.
Whereas if you just say, hey, that's out.
It's gone.
That's probably gone.
You're going to need to hit another one.
But call it a provisional or whatever.
Then they can be like, oh, yeah, provisional.
and then they hit
and then if their first one's fine
it's like oh hell yeah
it's a surprise we're in good
worst case the person is like
I can't believe you said it was out
like which who cares
the best the worst thing you could say to someone
it's almost
there's almost no feasible
scenario in the history of golf
where it's beneficial to tell someone
that's borderline just say it's out
why would you ever tell somebody
it's borderline
yeah and we were both on
the T-box still like
huh like do we hit another one
are we driving away
and we look up and Adam
who's the other guy that plays him with us
gives us the old like not thumbs up thumbs down
but like I don't know
that's the last sign where you're hovering your hand back before
yeah yeah I was like
that's that's the least
confident ever ever
yeah that's where again it'd be like just say
it's out man yeah because then I'll hit a provisional
and then you find but again that's just
that's the nature of the game and I know
anybody out there who's listening to who's play competitive golf is like, yep, that's what it's
fucking like. It's like, you are out there alone. Your ball has to go in the hole and it has
to go in by the rules of golf. And that's just what it is. I will say that there were people
who shot some stunning numbers. There's a guy. Astronomical numbers. So the highest pro score
I saw, again, these are pros. These are people who have committed to playing professional
golf as a guy who shot 43 over over the course of two days.
he shot let's see he went
92 today
and 97
on
on Tuesday
that's the highest pro score that I saw
the highest amateur score
I was by the way I was 61 over par
came in a hundred and third
tied for a hundred and third
there were I guess 118 people
one guy shot 93 over
another guy 92 over another guy
80 over, a handful of folks in the 70 overs.
So, you know, scores are...
90 plus over in two rounds.
There were also...
There were...
One, two, three, four, five...
There were a bunch of WD slash did not finishes.
So I think this number has grown.
I know I'm sure a bunch of these people,
they withdrew beforehand,
but some people, I'm sure, just, like, couldn't finish.
And there was...
No, just...
Joe, it crossed my mind, because the hardest part of the entire thing was the first nine
that we played, where it crossed my mind, like, I might not be able to finish.
There might be a part where, like, I hit so many balls out of bounds on a T that's impossible,
like the 15th, that like, I'm not going to be able to finish this round of golf.
You looked at me at one point and said, this is probably three or four holes in, and we looked
to each other like, are we going to even play this round?
Like, balls are rolling off the green after marking them.
And then after the 15th hole, which is.
on our first nine holes at Port Royal.
You made, I think, an eight or a seven.
And you looked at me and goes, I cannot believe I actually finish that hole.
And you were happy.
You're like, I finished that hole, and we're going to keep playing.
Took me like 30 minutes to finish that hole, man.
I was running everywhere.
I was so tired.
You went as far left as you could.
And then.
And then as far back to the right to go find the provisional as you could.
Yep.
We're yelling at each other through the wind.
Like, you have yardage.
Like, no, like, follow my voice.
That's the line.
Yeah, but I was trying to get a lot.
Yeah.
Dude, it was, uh, it was a circus.
It was part, even Parsiali said that's not golf.
He was like that, what we did was is not golf.
It was that difficult.
Uh, having said that, you know, I also was affected like, it's pressure, man.
It's like nerve wracking, standing up there being like, okay, this is stroke play.
Every shot counts.
You don't get to just like, if you have, if you, if you skull a bunker shot over the green,
you don't get to just be like, all right, boys, I'm in for double or I'm in for triple.
You know, I don't want to waste every time.
I'm in my pocket.
Keep going.
None of that.
You just don't get to do that.
And there's a certain inherent just nervousness that kicks in when you're just
standing on a tee or when you're out there.
Like on the first green of my whole thing, I felt like I completely lost the ability to control
my limbs.
I just was like standing over the pot was like I can't control.
Like I don't know.
Yeah.
You're like, I don't know what's going to happen in the next three seconds.
The ability to control my limbs just left my person.
And I was just standing out there like, well, what are we going to do?
And then you got to hit T shots and all that.
And then eventually sometimes it comes back to you.
You feel good for a couple holes.
Then it's kind of gone.
And then the wind pisses you all.
It was just, it was a scene out there having said that.
This tournament, I didn't even know this thing existed.
This tournament is so cool.
Parsiali said a couple years ago, I think three years ago, the first time he played in it,
that there was zero wind.
And he's like, man, it was so peaceful out there, just enjoyable, not a breath of wind.
Peaceful.
Don't know what that is.
No, it was when we, every time we've sat down right after the round,
we've gone into the clubhouse, we've gotten dark and stormy,
poured some Gosling's rum,
and we've sat down and just been quiet for like two minutes
and then been like, how nice is this,
that we can like hear each other.
Because you just, it's just, it beats you up the whole time.
But that's the beauty of it.
That's the nature of playing competitive golf.
It was fun.
I'm pumped that I just like finished and didn't finish in,
uh, complete dead last.
There was a gigantic lightning pole.
Huge.
of the Atlantic Ocean.
We are in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean.
There's nothing protecting us on either side.
People should look it up on a map.
We are literally in the middle.
We're not just off the coast.
We're way out there.
No, we're fucking out there.
A couple other things I want to touch on.
Lurch.
Lurch with one of the dumbest comments of all time in the last podcast.
I saw a bunch of people tweeting this at me.
Again, I was so, the last show, I couldn't get a word in.
They were all talking in studio.
I know how that is when you're not in studio.
You don't want to disrupt the flow of the show.
So I couldn't, and sometimes I wasn't even paying attention.
I was just trying to think about like a point that I wanted to get in later,
but whenever they stopped talking,
Lurch at one point was talking about how, you know, Kisner had told us,
or he had gotten a tip about how he needs to have a stronger grip.
And Lurch's dumbass thought that meant grip pressure,
stronger meaning like hold on to the club stronger.
Oh, I missed that.
I did not know that.
To the point where he said like his hand was about to fall asleep
because he was gripping the club so hard by the end of the fucking round.
What a...
That's the complete opposite of what every good golfer tells you.
Like, no, no, no, just lightly grab on in the club, let it do the work, use your body.
And he's choking this thing to death.
A strong grip lurch is when you're moving your hand, like your left hand, you know, you move it towards the right.
If you're...
You roll it over towards the right.
If you are a right-handed golfer, and then you focus on your right hand, like the further
under the right part of your club, your right hand is.
If you're right-handed golfer, that's like a stronger grip.
And Lurch thought it just meant, oh, if someone said you need a stronger grip that he needs to
just grip the fucking grip.
I cannot believe that.
What a idiot.
Lurch, you are the biggest dummy I've ever heard of or encountered.
I cannot wait to talk to him about it.
We have our 22-hour trip to Australia on Friday.
Insane that he thought that.
Just insane.
I've never heard anything like that my whole life.
What's crazy is that Lurch isn't just a guy who just slaps it around.
Like Lurch can play golf.
He's a good golfer.
And he has no idea that a strong grip doesn't mean...
He thinks I just can't believe if he thought you should really just hold on to the club as tight as possible.
Can you imagine standing on T-box and just gripping the shit out of the club?
He said his hands were about to fall asleep.
And just trying to rip it?
Like, what?
How do you hit the ball doing that?
He couldn't.
That's what he's like.
I don't understand this tip.
Yeah.
Yeah, because your brain isn't capable of understanding it properly.
That was the problem.
Lurch, I think, would have, of all of us, done the best in this environment.
Because he actually hits the ball pretty low.
And sneaky big thing is having a good base because the wind actually blows you around.
Big time.
I almost fell down holding a camera.
I don't know how you hit a golf.
There was one T shot on the 15th hole at Port Royal.
No, the R15th.
our 16th hole so I guess it was
seven seventh hole part five
where we had been down below for the first
six holes or whatever it is on the back nine
our front nine our back nine
and then we kind of you come up to this super exposed
tebox it was straight into the wind
and it like blew andrew over behind me right after I hit
I topped my t shot but it like kind of skirted out there
a little decent ways and I just look back at him
and I was like I was like I can't believe I even make contact
he's like I don't know how you did that because I just fell
over and I'm just holding the camera.
I almost lost my hat forever.
Like it almost blowed my hat just into the abit.
Blue that blew my hat into the abyss.
We'll pass tense for you there.
There you go.
Anyways, look, the tournament's super fun.
Everybody comes out here for five days or so.
You play practice round or two on Sunday, Monday.
Then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, you play golf.
You play competitive golf tomorrow, which is today for you listeners, because this comes out on
Thursday.
I'm playing in the part three.
So I missed the cut.
Believe it or not.
one over through two rounds missed the cut and so T103 T103 not dead last no several players behind me
several um and a lot of pros ahead of me so it's like uh I wasn't T103 in amateurs I was probably
T40 T40 something like that so uh not that bad but I did miss the cut and if you miss the cut
you play in a part three tournament tomorrow which is right next to the hotel which is amazing
so I can't wait for that you can follow along with that we're playing against Malcolm Jr who's
Malcolm Gossling Jr. playing against him.
And we're having a little bar stool against goslings.
But look, we're about two or three dark and stormies deep.
We're going to go straight from here back to the bar and hang out with some folks and drink more dark and stormies and more gossings rum because it's absolutely phenomenal.
I'd forgotten how, like, tasty, I guess, rum is.
And that ginger beer, like a little spiciness on it too, it's a good combo.
It's a good combo.
And they fly down.
You drink them so fast.
You just drink them really fast.
It's really, I mean, it's understandable because they're so tasty.
But it's, you come out here, you're hanging out in Bermuda.
Even this time of year, it's been like 70.
I've been hot out there on the course, actually.
It's like 72 degrees, even though it's windy as hell.
It's been awesome.
Yeah, there's no snow here.
No, there's no snow.
Is there snow anywhere else?
Northeast.
Oh, no.
Manhattan specifically.
Like the white stuff?
Yeah.
The cold stuff?
Yeah.
Like under freezing.
I don't even know what freezing is.
I know the Celsius has been above zero.
So that's, you know, we're, something to hang their hat on.
Us, us, we're in 70-something degree weather, turquoise water, playing golf from Bermuda.
If you can next year, you got to come play in the Gosslings Invitational.
I will be back.
They have events each night.
Everybody's hanging out, chatting.
How bad did you play today?
Bad.
How about you?
Even worse.
It's a great time.
We got one more day and then we're off to Australia.
So I don't know what the other guys said at the beginning of this show.
I have no clue.
Hopefully they weren't too dumb and said stuff like Lurch says.
about strong grip versus grip pressure because he's a moron.
But we'll be back on Tuesday.
And on Tuesday's show, you will have an update in theory from four guys, six guys,
who have arrived in Australia.
We'll be on the other side of the planet at that time.
The next time you hear our voices, the next time you hear us on this show,
we will be in Melbourne, Australia for the President's Cup.
So you can look forward to that.
Have a great weekend.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
