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Talk about the way we felt about Tiger Woods where the guy was legit flying off a cliff
where like he may never live, he may never fucking walk.
Like now he's playing a major.
Think about like that ride.
Live, we had the same sort of trajectory where it's like, this thing's not going to be something.
And all of a sudden you look back, you're like, holy fuck, they got Cam Smith and Dustin Johnson and Phil Mickelson.
a championship and they're giving out a billion dollars it's like what the fuck is happening right now
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we're talking about Chevy in a little bit it's election day so we got a big show we got a lot to get
to in honor of election day we're doing what you guys voting for let's get into it this just
turned into Pod Save America let's do it people are like what am I listening to here the only of
The only race I'm really aware of in my, like, world that I'm eligible for is the mayor race in Los Angeles because I'm still a Los Angeles voter.
It's like a very spicy race.
Can I, yeah?
Can I tell you that the one thing about having an iPad is that I'm far more informed than I was before I had an iPad because I was never just going to be on my phone reading New York Times articles or whatever pops up in my feed.
But now that I have an iPad, I feel like I have to use it.
So I've been reading more about the midterms and about sports and everything.
else, but I'm certainly more informed than I've ever been. And it's solely because I own an iPad.
Yeah, it's the Apple News Plus. I got Apple News Plus and it's like $9.99 a month, I think,
and you get like all these different, uh, basically subscriptions to publications. I think the Wall
Street Journal's on there. I think there's, I don't remember what other news ones, but you're right.
And then all the graphics where you like click on the map to see who's going to win and what
districts there are, they're way better on an iPad than they would ever be on a cell phone.
I, uh, I saw in Arizona. I talked about it last week, but you know, it's, it's, it's, it's,
just chaos here. There's fucking signs everywhere. It's attack ads all over the place.
And I was, I'm going to vote today when this comes out. And I haven't been paying attention at all.
So I like to go through it. I like to like try to actually figure out and learn about the kid.
It's impossible. There's like no way to genuinely learn about the person and like they're truly what they stand behind.
Because you like Google it and they just everyone has put their best, you know, all their money and their special address.
everything they can to like steer you in a certain direction once you Google it.
Then like I'm sitting here going, okay, when I get to the ballot and I go through all these
different options in it, I get why people just panic and they're like, well, I guess I voted like
Democratic. So I'm just going to go D down the whole fucking board and I'm going to get out of here.
And like it's just impossible to truly objectively learn. You would have to commit like weeks to it.
I feel like. And I get that yeah, in a democracy and all the that's.
great. And if you're some idealistic person, then you should do that because voting is so important
if people fought for it, it's like most people don't have the time for that shit. And unless you're
some staunch conservative or hardcore Democrat and you're just going to go right down the board,
it's really difficult to learn in the ins and outs of person by person, what they're going to vote for,
what they stand for, what their record is and who they are as like a human being. I don't know how
you can fucking learn that. I have found that I am the most impressionable person on the planet.
Because I will read something and whatever their intent was with the article, I'm supposed to hate this person.
I'm supposed to like this person.
I then end up hating that person or liking that person.
So it's, I'm really a bad barometer for, yeah, like you would hope you would read an article and you'd be able to disseminate like, all right, this person stands for this.
And so now I'm going, I feel this way about them and I will vote whichever way you want.
But I am just, I'm so impressionable that no matter what I read, I finish it and I say,
yeah, how they feel about them is now exactly how I feel about that person.
And it is not a good way to go about voting or, you know, forming an opinion on anything.
And it must be a roller coaster for you to watch these Monday night football games and Sunday night football, especially in local TV, because it's one ad after another after another right now.
It's absolute chaos.
I know that Pat Ryan is a radical, liberal, and he sides.
The only reason I remember that name is because it's a name of someone in my family.
So every time I see Pat Ryan on my TV, I'm like, oh, that sounds like the name of someone I know.
It's just so funny.
There's a lot of money being spent.
Like Kathy Hockel was created by the devil himself.
And then the next one's like, Zeldon was seen like eating children in the basement of a
pizzerie in, in D.C.
It's like, what the hell's happening?
Like, I don't understand where these things are even coming from.
Like how could both, how could so much money be put on both sides where they're saying such strong
things on both sides?
Like one of them has to be like incorrect.
You know what I mean?
There's no way.
they're both correct.
And it's crazy.
It's like you want to, like I think at the beginning they do start with my, this is going to be my policy.
I'm going to run on my policy.
And then one person goes a little bit negative.
And then their team kind of fires back with a little bit more negative.
And next thing you know, it's just relentless.
All I see is that this Mark Kelly guy in Arizona voted for all these IRS agents.
It's like the only thing they tell us about.
You're like, dude, there's got to be more to the story than all that.
And it's just relentless.
It's just negative and shit everywhere.
So it's fucking hard, man.
It's hard to make a, if you consider yourself,
I try to consider myself like a swing voter and I can be swayed.
And like, I'm not just going to follow the party line no matter what.
And like, it's just hard, man.
It's hard to make a legitimate informed decision.
Pat Ryan is just really soft on crime and that's a concern of mine.
That's the line they're really going with is that all the Democrats are soft on crime.
I'm getting a lot of this guy wants the murderers on the street.
I've been told that a lot of humans want murderers on the street, which again, like Rick said, it's just hard to believe.
It's just hard to believe.
How is this guy in power if that's what he wants?
He just wants murders everywhere.
It's like, fuck.
That can't be true.
It's crazy. It's crazy out there.
It is.
Well, we're going to do our own version of it.
I got a list of questions and they're yay or nay questions.
And we're going to call it four play polls.
And everyone's going to vote yay or nay.
And we're going to get to that part.
We haven't gotten there yet.
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Who is the first athlete that comes to mind when Frankie and I do this with like the jersey when you hold it up?
Does anybody come to mind in particular for you guys?
Dwayne Wade.
Okay.
I feel like didn't he stand on the scorers table and like do this?
Yeah, he made a, he made like a half court buzzer beater.
He definitely stood on the scores table.
I don't know if this was a part of it, but he was talking about how this.
This is his city.
He, this is my house.
This is my city.
I like that.
Is it Kobe?
Kobe do that?
Kobe did the pull of nipple out.
Remember he did the, oh yeah, that's right.
I'd like to be clear and say that there is no right answer to this because a lot of players
have done it.
A lot of professional athletes have held up their jersey being like, this is who I play for
and this is the best team in the world.
I was just wondering if anybody had like a vivid.
Who's your guy, Trent?
Because clearly you had someone in your mind.
No, I was thinking, who was the, oh, it's going to be, it's crazy.
that I can't remember his name.
Who was the brash college basketball player for Ole Miss?
Alex might know.
Alex is even alive because the Jets absolutely fucking dismantled his bill yesterday?
I knew that was coming.
Frankie was talking a lot of shit.
Alex Bush is an absolute pathetic human being that went to MetLife Stadium,
thought he'd just steamroll the pathetic New York Jets,
that it was going to be a home game for the bills,
and they were taking over MetLife Stadium,
the real New York team.
I saw a bunch of these tweets.
And then all of a sudden the Jets came in,
and absolutely ground and patted these guys.
Their defense is insane.
We were cooking Sunday sauce.
Josh Allen didn't know what was going on.
He was seeing ghosts out there.
And the Jets are fucking rolling right now, boys.
They should have won against New England.
These Jets could win the division.
I'm going to a game December 22nd.
They could get pumped.
Didn't they lose New England by like 20?
Yeah, but they could clinch a playoff spot when I go to this game,
December 22nd.
It's going to be unbelievable.
I've never had this excitement in like 10 years for the Jets.
It's unbelievable.
But Alex, Alex, who would,
Who was that player from Ole Miss?
I don't even know.
No idea.
I looked it up.
It's Marshall Henderson.
For whatever reason, there's a clip of him that went viral or he was talking shit to the crowd.
That's a really random one because there's so many players that have done it.
Like Bryce Harper's been doing it, RIP, the Phillies, but he's kind of been doing the same thing where he throws his hands across the Phillies logo.
It's the thing to do when you get put on the Jumbotron.
I always used to make fun of people at the Islander games.
Like, oh, I'm on the screen.
I'm going to I'm going to waggle this logo on my chest.
Yeah, because you got to do something.
What else are you supposed to do?
Yeah, you just panic.
You panic.
You got to do something.
Alex, you can retort by the way.
You went to the game.
It was probably a fun time.
But, I mean, what did you see in the bills yesterday?
Probably the worst game.
Josh's played in probably since 2019.
But, you know, we won by three points and played the best game ever against a beat-up defense in a bad game.
You know, 17 season or 17 game of preseason.
So enjoy it, you know.
This is all pre-season.
It's a preseason game, you know.
It's just working towards meeting the teams in the playoffs.
It's actually a really good comeback.
I have a trend.
I have a trend that came across my desk yesterday.
You're putting this out there.
Yeah.
Because I know about it because we've talked about it.
Well, yeah, we have the Barstall Sportsbook.
And I have something that I think is really, really valuable for people to listen to.
So Barstle sports book.
I was in New Jersey.
I placed my bets because I came across this thing that is an amazing trend.
So, and I don't know the numbers.
I don't know the years.
I'm going to just, I'm actually going to make.
up the numbers in the years, but just know that this trend is correct. Let's say over the last 10
years or so, any spread that is nine and a half or greater, you always bet the under. And here's the
two reasons why. I think it's like 60% of these games have been hitting the under over a long
period of time. The reason is because when there's that big of a spread, right, that large of a
spread. The team that is favored is either going to blow the doors off this bad team and then
take the foot off the gas at the end or the worst team is going to play unbelievable defense,
just like the Jets did yesterday and they're going to make this a tight game. Yesterday the Jets over
under was what, 43 and a half against the bills, 44 and a half. And they just played unbelievable
defense where it was never a doubt that that game was going to be under. Then all of a sudden
you have the, um, the Chiefs game last night. It's a 13 point favorite.
What happens? Amazing defense by the Titans.
This game goes into overtime, 1717.
That's an automatic under.
Both unders, since I found this that came across my desk, they both hit.
I'm 2 and 0.
I'm telling you right now, when there's a spread that's 9.5 or greater, you have to bet the under.
Okay, I got to go to the flip side of this because I saw this tweet as well.
It was early in the week.
I saw this trend.
So I bet the under in the Texans Eagles game, which was 44.5.
And they went for two on the final touchdown.
It was 45 and it didn't hit.
So you got it at the right time.
It was close though, right?
It was very close.
No, the theory definitely like, it's one of the few trends because I always think I catch
one of these trends and then you're reminded that there are no trends.
Like you're just wrong.
Anything that you think you found an insider little hook, you're wrong.
If you bet on it, you're going to lose.
But this one actually does seem like it has staying power.
Like it's been that way for the last 10 years.
The problem with these things that you just have to commit to them.
You have to commit to them for like an extended period of time in order to actually see the benefit.
I would also argue like, doesn't Vegas account for that?
Like doesn't Vegas say that like the other than it should be
lower than it should be because they account for this?
Yeah, but I don't know what's going on,
but the numbers work where anything over 50% you have to take,
you have to take something's going on with my mic by the way
where it's like automatically making me lower.
So Alex Bush is going to be an absolute nightmare.
I think it's on some sort of regulating system.
But yeah, if you're,
if you find anything over 50%,
you have to take that trend because that's just winning and gambling.
I'm always curious,
what Vegas puts into, like what's in the formula?
Because what you're saying might be right rigs,
but that also feels like something that wouldn't be included.
They're looking at who's playing, the weather, blah, blah, blah,
all this stuff that everybody knows about.
And for them to then look at being like,
oh, but there's also this trend that's going on
where when it's a double-digit favorite,
we need to lower the over under because people are hammering at this too many times.
Like that seems like, and now they might be doing that
because they're Vegas and they're smarter than everybody else.
But it just seems like that.
that can't be something that goes into it.
I would guess that there,
I would just guess that their algorithm does account for that of like,
okay,
over millions of games or whatever it is,
thousands of games that the under,
even though it's projected to be X,
whenever the spread is as high as this,
the under tends to be 0.75 points lower than it does otherwise.
So they factor that in.
Like I wouldn't,
I don't know that some big brain.
Like it's not,
um,
deal or no deal where there's a guy sitting behind the screen that's like,
you know what?
These fuckers on Twitter.
are like trending so I'm going to go down a little bit I just would guess that like their large
numbers are they kind of they got to be factored that in but like frankie's saying which is tough
because we don't have the exact numbers on this show we haven't presented those yet but just if it's
generally been successful over a general period of time then I guess you got to take it I am picturing
a wizard of Oz character I'm picturing someone behind a curtain being like I hear those four play
guys talking about that 60% double digit trend so we're going to factor that in this week I think
they factor it into the under over under at all times just human behavior which i think is that people
bet on the over much more than they bet on the under i just think that that's like a i don't know if that's
that sounds right doesn't it i took the under i took the under twice yesterday two and oh but it was
i did not something i enjoyed you know exactly it's not because you have to the way with an over is like
you're rooting for both teams so every time someone has the ball it's a good thing and you can win the bet
very quickly basically right if it's like 14 14 in the first quarter the under you got to lock in all
game. And you're never really out of the woods, especially if you're playing against the
Chiefs or something. You're never shave. Exactly, because they can score 21 points right in the end.
And anytime when both teams have the ball, you're playing defense. Like you get, you know how
nervousness you get one of the other teams on the ball? That's the whole time. So I'm a huge
fan of betting unders. And I don't think the public is either. So I think Vegas can afford with
setting the over under a little higher than it, than the algorithm says it would be because they know
that humans are dumb and like to bet on the over. Every time the team is in the red zone is the
most stressful time of the day. You're rooting for a fun.
an interception and at worst a field goal.
So when they give somebody gives up like an easy touchdown, you're like, you guys are
pathetic.
Your defense is absolutely pathetic.
When you bet the under though, you're less likely to be mad at someone.
Like when you bet the under and there's just shit football going on and like they don't
get it in it's kind of like great.
Like that's good for you.
If there's really good football going on that ends up taking over the over, you're not like
mad at that.
When you're betting the over and nobody can score, you're like, this fucking quarterback sucks.
Like this team, what are they doing?
They're fucking horrible.
How do you not make that catch?
Like, you just get mad at everyone.
You think they suck.
Whereas when you're betting the under, you're sort of just like, yeah, no, it's a hard game.
I get them like they.
Of course you're not going to make that play all the time.
That's why I bet the under.
And it's just it's a little bit easier like peace of mind.
But you're never safe when you're betting the under.
Never.
I had the under in that Bucks game last night.
And that was such an ugly football game that I enjoyed the hell out of it.
It was also like every Iowa football game that I've watched over the last.
three years. So when a game is trending in the direction of, oh, this reminds me of an Iowa football
game. That's a good game to have the under and I had it last night. And then, you know, it was just
never in doubt. You know, Brady came back and won the game, but that didn't matter to me.
I also was as sharp as anyone's ever been in gambling. I was watching the Celtics game, just a
random Celtics game. And who the fuck were they playing? The Celtics were playing.
Played the Knicks the other night. No, no, no. The Celtics were playing.
Wow. I have to mend. I have something wrong with me, man. Whatever.
This is something you play another basketball team. And they were nine, they were like nine point favorites, maybe seven and a half point favorites to start the game. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to wait. The bulls. The bulls. The bulls. The bulls. The bulls just going to wait until the bulls just get out to an early lead, right? First quarter, second quarter, the down by 12. This fucking line goes down to three and a half. I hammer it. The fucking Celtics win by four. I mean, I was seeing the board, man. Like games started at eight and a half. And I'm like, I'm going to wait.
it gets the three and a half they win by four one last free throw. I mean, come on. That's good
stuff. It's good stuff. That is good stuff. Maybe throw in the chat every once in a while, but other than that,
that's good stuff. I know. And then the worst was I tech, I almost tech, you know, when the Bruins came back
against the penguins the other night, they were down like five three in the third period. I looked around
my house. I said, the Bruins are to win this game. I looked at the Barstle's sports book and I was like,
well, actually, at that point, I actually couldn't place this bet because we were in New York.
So I was like if I could, I'm going to wait, the Bulls, the Bulls.
So I'm like, I'm just going to wait until the Bulls just get out to an early lead, right?
First quarter, second quarter, the down by 12.
This fucking line goes down to three and a half.
I hammer it.
The fucking Celtics win by four.
I mean, I was seeing the board, man.
Like, the games started at eight and a half.
And I'm like, I'm going to wait until it gets the three and a half they win by four.
One last free throw.
I mean, come on.
Yeah.
Go on.
That's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
It's good stuff.
That is good stuff.
Maybe throw in the chat every once in a while.
but other than that, that's good stuff.
I know.
And then the worst was I text,
I almost tech,
you know,
when the Bruins came back
against the penguins the other night,
they were down like five three
in the third period.
I looked around my house.
I said,
the Bruins are going to win this game.
I looked at the Barso's sports book
and I was like,
well, actually,
at that point I actually couldn't place this bet
because we were in New York.
So I was like,
if I could do this right now,
I'm telling you right now
that this thing would fucking go,
they were plus 3,500,
and they ended up winning that game.
God, the Bruins are good at hockey.
And then Frankie does the worst thing ever
and says,
texts our group being like, hey, you know, I thought about doing this and I thought about texting you guys.
Like, that doesn't do anybody.
No, it doesn't.
It really is not great.
Okay.
We got some things to get into.
We've got a quick.
Oh, Dombarney Link, Scotland comes out on Thursday.
We'll talk a lot more about it on Thursday's podcast like we usually do.
But yes, I believe that's coming out.
Is that right?
Alex Bush.
Yep.
There you go.
He really doesn't want to talk.
He's really not in a good mood today.
Thursday night.
Thursday night's coming out.
So we'll talk more about that on Thursday's show,
but really cool, spectacular place is going to be a great video.
Our boy, Alistair Doherty, at current time, he wears Barstall gear,
parcel golf gear.
We're working on an official contract with him.
So he's going to be, I believe, our first professional golfer that's going to rock all of our stuff.
Anyways, he's at final stage Q school.
I don't know a ton about this.
None of us do except Dan, probably.
But there's like 150 players that make it to final stage Q school.
There's pre-qualifying.
There's first stage, second stage.
you got to get through all that.
And then obviously final stage, 150 players,
a lot of really big names in there,
like Wesley Brian's even in there trying to get his card.
Top 40 and ties are guaranteed starts in the first eight events
on the Corn Ferry Tour next season, which is massive.
And then, you know, top 10, get some like even more special stuff,
top one or two that, you know, get all kinds of stuff.
He's T-41 going into the final round today.
T's off soon.
So he's going to be teeing off, I believe,
while we're talking about this podcast.
But he shot 66 in the third round to vault himself back in after a dog shit 76 in the first round.
Posted, I think, one or two under in the second round, six under six or four or five under 66 in the third round.
Point is he's T-41.
He needs T-40 or better to have guaranteed eight starts.
And then if he doesn't finish T-40, he still has conditional status, which I'll be honest, I've never known what that meant.
What does conditional status mean?
conditional status means that like you're on the list like but they have to go really far down to get to your name basically like you're not going to get any starts on your own number but you can get starts if other guys in front of you drop out so anybody who's kind of in the queue you're in the queue that's exactly right yeah it's like you're at st andrews you got up earlier in the queue you're trying to get on the golf yeah it's like you don't have a hard tea time but like maybe you know you're online yeah yeah that's right i got nutteed on mr toarty because they've already started he is one under through four and t 37 so he's on
the number right now. This is a absolutely massive, massive afternoon. This is a sweat. And he's
going to be getting, they're live streaming the final round and they're pretty much focusing on
the leader and then the bubble boys. And our guy is the definition of a bubble boy right now.
So I mean, yeah, he's, this is, you know, if you, if you make it, if you get in the top 40,
you get eight starts, a lot of starts. If you're a professional golfer, you think, all right,
and eight starts, I'm going to be able to make something happen. I'm going to have one or two good
finishes, get the rest of the year. If not, then you're looking at Mondays and mini
tours again. It's really nervous. And also, one more note about QSchool I wanted to bring up here,
Brandon Hagee is playing QSchool this week. He's on the PJ tour a couple weeks ago. Do you guys know who
Brandon Hagey's caddy is? No. Joe La Cava Jr. Oh. And so I asked Joe yesterday, I said,
hey, is this like a one-time thing? Or he's like, you know, actually I think I'm going to give this a shot.
So like father-like son, Joe Jr. is going to be on Brandon Hage's bag this year on the
quarter tour. That's incredible. I got faith in Alastra. Man. You know, we've been
following him and I just think he's he's got it he's got the the thing that's going to push him
across he's going to get eight starts next year and then the world is his going forward I got
all the confidence in the world in him now it's a very nervy time for him I'm sure it sounds like
he's playing well so far so best of luck to Alistair we're going to be following it well T-37 action
right now so who what a grind that's going to be a grind and a half I mean this is the grind of all
grinds this is it basically it's just going to come down to one stroke that's the it's just
no matter what we do over these next three hours, none of it matters.
It's going to come down to one stroke.
We all know it.
We can all sense it.
All right.
What else do I have on here?
Oh, Bama lost.
We have to shout that out.
Yeah.
Devastating.
Sorry, Jake Bass.
It's really bummed out about that.
I'm sure he's listening and grinding over this right now.
So really, really big bummer for you all down there in Bama, but they lost.
They're done.
They're done.
They're done.
Sorry.
What are the 10th in the SEC rankings now?
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, no, not the SEC rankings, but the official AP poll.
Oh, gross.
I don't understand how the SEC works.
So there's an east and the west, right?
And then both the first of each division then plays in the SEC championship.
Is that how that works?
Yeah, that's how the Big Ten works too now.
There's Iowa's in the West and then there's an East and whoever wins each separate division
then plays in their Big Ten or the championship, conference championship.
So you play every team from the, every East team plays every other East team.
and then they play a few others from the West.
It rotates depending on the year.
That's right.
Yeah.
So I don't think Alabama plays Georgia this year, but they only would have played in Georgia
if they made it to the championship game.
Like Iowa won the West last year,
and then they got the shit kicked out of them in Indianapolis,
which I was in person for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Northwestern won the West the year before people forget.
Bat Rouge on Saturday night.
I'm not sure they played Michigan.
They did play Michigan.
They got the doors blown off.
Dave and I went.
We got to talk about the dozen.
This is our first time on air since our dozen show has aired.
All time screw jobs.
What are your guys thoughts?
What are you guys?
All time.
Screw jobs.
Just hard.
Just hard.
Just hard to really.
I thought you were saying whole cans.
W-H-O-E-K-Kans.
The whole time I thought that.
And I, we don't know shit about the show.
So I was just sitting here like, all right, yeah, it must be it.
You were saying Hulk hand.
Hulk hands.
And it was a screw job.
You know, the public.
Incredible Hulk hand.
The public is on our side.
They're saying that in terms of,
of difficulty, our niche question
with the Big Bang Theory was much more difficult
than Tommy's with impractical jokers.
So the public is on our side in that.
And it was devastating because
in my heart of hearts, I thought that
it was Hulk hands. And I said it
so confidently. And then it ended up that
also in that episode, there's a
first bribery that was the Green
Lantern Lantern. That I, you know,
as a Big Bang Theory guy, I probably should have
known that. Yeah, but Trent, when I
rewatch the footage, you said
it's one of two things. So did you know,
know that there were two briborries.
If you, if you watch the footage, you say, man, it could be one or two things.
I think it's Hulk hands.
Oh, I don't remember saying that.
You did say that.
You said it's one of two things.
And you like chuckle.
And you say, I think it's Hulk hands.
So I must have in the back of my head realized that there were two and I went with,
because I know the Green Lantern Lantern is in that episode.
I just thought that Hulk cans, because I'm picturing no one else watched that show.
so it's not going to make any sense to describe.
But he's talking about the whole cans.
He's excited to get the whole cans.
Raj doesn't want to give the whole cans up.
And he finally does, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
So I guess I must have known, but regardless, yeah, that was a heartbreaker.
I really, because if I get that right, we pretty much win the match.
Right.
So, you know, that aside is an incredibly entertaining episode.
People seem to really enjoy it.
A little controversy goes a long way.
So that helped us.
as well.
But I am impressed with our dozen performance.
I look forward to playing again.
I just wish we could have gotten a W that first time.
And I would like us to get,
can we lobby to get a few categories tweet?
Like, can we get NHL?
Because everybody we go up against,
like,
the categories that are in the game are pretty much their wheelhouse.
Now, I get that there's general,
like the celebrity stuff, you know,
NBA NFL, like big stuff, fine.
But like, can we get a fucking hockey question?
One of the four major sports, two of the guys in the show, we're pretty into hockey.
And like we just, I feel like we get skewed against the shit that we actually know about.
I think Jeff D. Lowe regrets not putting an NHL question in because you guys are NHL guys.
Glennie is an NHL guy.
There's enough people that know NHL on both sides where it would have been a fair question.
I think Jeff Dill, I remember, I don't know if you put it in the episode, but after we got done recording, he was like, yeah, I probably should have put an NHL question in.
So I think going forward, we will get an NHL question, maybe a golf question.
I don't know.
But yeah, an NHL one would be nice.
Golf question would be really nice.
Golf question would be nice.
We do like, I mean, the guys had a fucking Tommy does like a major league baseball,
Yankees podcast.
And like there's a baseball question.
So I mean, maybe we get a fucking golf question.
I don't know.
It was funny seeing you guys coming because I wasn't involved.
It was three on three.
So seeing you guys come back into the room because I think you guys did it right before
we did a podcast.
We did.
And you guys were rattled.
You guys were legitimately really upset.
Yeah, we lost a couple like shitty questions.
Like obviously I kind of sewered us on the geography question.
I thought.
Yeah, but like that was just a crapshoot.
Sam,
I was a crap shoot.
Yeah,
you guys couldn't call me.
You'd already use the,
you'd already use the phone of friend.
Yeah.
We already used it.
Yep.
And we needed that because it was a hard, hard question about a movie that Ken Jack nailed.
So there was a couple questions that we definitely should have gotten.
Um,
you know,
we could have still won it even without the niche category.
That's not where it was won and lost.
It's almost like blaming a goalie at the end of a game.
for like giving up one goal when he made like 41 saves.
Like we should.
There's a lot of other chances.
But fuck.
You know,
it was right there.
And I think we were so excited about it because we got the doors blown off us the first
two times that we played.
Like we weren't even close.
The first time I played,
I played with Tommy and Hubs and we,
I think to this day hold the record for least amount of questions answered.
I just stood there and didn't say a word.
So like to be able to like answer some questions.
I know a lot of people did not like this angle I have of my count.
camera that was a I was in the chat of the YouTube page and it was a fucking it was a sewer system down
there I mean I'm talking the the most ridiculous things being said I've ever seen in my entire
Jeff D. Logan's like 11,000 people to watch these things live and there's so many people
commenting that I have all these screens I'm typing with my toes the problem is I have these
huge screens if you guys saw how many screens I had in front of me right now in my new like office
it's actually laughable I've got the most screens of all time and I'm looking at these huge screens
everything's fucking full screen.
So my eyes, even I was watching it on TV being like,
I'm looking all over the place.
But you're looking at people's faces.
So now they're in my head.
The dozen is in my head.
I'm going to be sitting all the way back here next time with my hands on my head
just to make sure there's no questions.
Well, another part of that is they,
some of those viewers just know us as like,
we're the golf guys.
I'm the bachelorette guy.
I'm the bachelor's guy.
I remember when I answered the last season,
I got an NBA question right.
And they were like,
how can this guy who only watches reality TV possibly answer an NBA question?
When in reality, like, Frankie likes baseball, Riggs like hockey, I like the NBA, like a decent amount.
Like we have things outside of our lives.
So when we answer questions that people don't think we're going to know the answers to, they're like, that person's cheating.
When in reality, we're just sitting here listening to the questions and being like, holy fuck, I hope I know one answer to any of these questions.
Nobody's cheating.
So, Frankie, you also have the comment culture pegged better than anyone on earth, yet you're also the most vulnerable to it.
I know. I try and sway the opinion in there because I'm like, are you guys actually this outrageous?
Like, are, is everyone here that dumb? And then they just pile on you. I actually, when I think you're in there, dude, close up shop. Just pull your laptop down and just go on about your day. I know, just go on with your day. I know, just go cook or go, you know, who cares.
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I played the black the other day and I joined up with some, with some, like, absolute amazing human
beings.
I love playing that public golf, just showing up by yourself and just matching up with somebody.
And this one guy, Kevin, who we call Supi, I think his name was Kevin Campbell's.
And he says, call me Supi, which was awesome.
he said, by the way, he filmed my foreplay verses and he was like on his stomach, like filming like the putts and like the chips and going crazy.
It was hilarious. I'm like, what is happening? This guy came to play the black today and I have him like on his stomach. And then I met my guy Roy who owns a like a Polynesian style like dumpling place in the city. He said you have to come and I plugged it in the next video. It's unbelievable. But so we're walking down one of the fairways. I think it was the 11th fairway where I lied about.
Derek Jeter. I was I told people for like seven or eight years that I had seen Derek Jeter hit his
3,000th hit. I said that I watched it at home with my dad. Really, really, really I was at Bethpage
Black and I missed it. Um, I was on the 11th fairway and I took me a long time to really admit it. I think I
admitted it on this show. You did. Um, so that's where I was. Um, so that's where I was at a point where
you almost believed that you saw it? Yeah, I did. I thought like, I could remember where I was sitting.
And was this before before you could like stream stuff on your phone so you just didn't see it at all.
What was it, 2011 or something like that?
Yeah.
I was, it was one of those things where everything, it was like Aaron Judge Watch.
You couldn't miss an abbat because you didn't know when Jeter was going to do it.
And I was a Derek Jeter fanatic.
I had the fat heads in my room.
I had the whole thing.
And the fact that I just decided to go play the black that day was really unfortunate.
He gets that home run off David Price.
And I just told everyone like, yeah, I'm getting text messages.
I'm getting calls from friends.
I'm like, can you believe this?
And I'm like trying to hold the wind in the phone because I'm like, I'm like, I'm in front of
my TV. I can't believe it. I'm crying. And it took me like five or six years to really admit that I
didn't see it live. I saw it afterwards. But on the 11th hole, Kevin is like, you know, I really like
you guys content. Like, I'm a big fan. I love everything you guys do. He's like, man, those like commenters
just like, they fucking hate you guys. Like, how do you guys make like advertising money? Like,
and all he's like, he's like, so confused as to how we're like a legitimate brand. He's like,
I just don't get like, on like the barstool page, like, why they're so mean. And I had to
explain to him the comment culture where the only reason that they comment something is to write
something more negative than one before them. It's the same culture as Yelp. No one actually has a good
meal goes home and writes a review. It's always how can I become noticed. How nice that meal was?
How can I be noticed? How can me as a pathetic internet user be fucking noticed on the internet? And it's
because the reason that they get noticed is because they write something out landishly mean,
which is like I see it. It's like funny. It's like that's the way that they do it. Like they're just
going to write something crazy than the next person and they're going to get noticed that way. So it was
funny to have to explain it to him. He's like, yeah, it kind of does make sense. And then he's like doing
the math. He's like, yeah, 600,000 people watch a video. There's only 2,000 comments. Like,
even if like, only 100 of them are bad. Like, what are the numbers on that? He's like, it's insane.
He's like, like, and the bad ones aren't even genuine. Right. Exactly. No, I've had to explain
this to my parents all the time. My mom will call me on a Monday and be like, how are you? I'm
like, I'm fine. I'm good. She's like, you've been reading the comments? I'm like, try and not to
mom. She's like, well, good because of these people. I mean, my mom, I think my parents are ready to go to
bat for me after reading these comments. I like my parents are like that too. My parents are like
that too. I guess do they finally like get used to it and realize that like everyone hates your son,
you just kind of have to deal with it? No, I don't think. Yeah, I had to explain the same thing that
Frankie just explained to those nice gentlemen that he played golf with where it's such a small percentage.
And I just tell them, don't read them because it's not reality. Like things are going well. Like,
this job was good. This is when I had first half.
had to move. I was like, I can move to New York. You know, I can pay my rent. Everything's fine.
And they still read them, but they read them with a different demeanor. They're like,
those guys don't know what they're talking about. I'm like, no, they don't, mom, but please stop
reading them. So they still read them, but in a different way. Right. Yeah, my, uh, my mom finds it
funny. Like my dad, I don't think could find the comments. He does, he doesn't even know that
exists. My, my mom thinks, I think she just thinks they're funny, but she just gets it. She's like,
yeah, no, it's the fucking internet. Like, the internet's the internet's the internet. It's not a real world.
he always used the best example.
Like, how about that guy is like this writing like, I can't believe Frankie has a job.
Ask to a president.
A fire this fucking twig.
And then like puts it down and is like, honey, it's time to flip the asparagus.
Yeah.
It's insane.
I want to respond to some of these people and I don't do it because I know that's what they want.
Like they would love that.
But I want to, not publicly.
I just want to DM them and be like, what's going on, man?
Like, why, why are you writing that?
Why is that so mean?
because we've talked about this rigs.
It's like, when you see these people, when I've seen people in person, when I've seen a lot of people in person, we've been traveling a lot, they're like, this is going so well.
I'm so happy for you.
The podcast is so great.
And then you go online and it's a totally different thing.
So you get the sense that these people who are commenting these things, if they saw us in person probably would not say the same thing.
Also, if you listen to too much of it or read too much of it, it will start to distort your reality, which is not where you want to be.
Because like you're saying, the people in person are super nice.
They're the people who watch the content and then turn it off.
They're like, that was cool.
And now I'm going to go do something else.
Yeah.
But then if you listen too much to the comments or read them and you start to believe them,
you're like, which is true, which is true, which is true?
Am I doing a terrible job?
Did I ruin the show?
Did I ruin the show?
Right.
And you didn't.
But people will have you believe that you did.
They will have you believe that you are the worst person ever, that you are the worst person
at your job.
And if you start to buy too much into it, you will forget about the people who you see
in person who are like, it's going great, man.
This is awesome.
you'll be like, I don't understand what's right and what's wrong.
And that's a bad place to be.
They'll also be, I mean,
it's like 35 of the same people.
It's like 35 of the same people writing the same things on every video.
It's the craziest.
It tells you a lot too that somebody will be, you know,
they'll be like,
it's outrageous.
This person still has a job.
Fire them already.
Said he was going to aim a cup left and he aimed a foot and a half left.
And I'm like, that was four and a half minutes into that video.
So you're following me.
Yes.
And then you're watching the entire video.
And then you're pitching about how the person is,
still has the job.
You watch the whole fucking thing.
Like, what are you doing?
You're watching everything.
So you got to remove yourself from it.
Like you said, close up shop and just fucking move on.
Just do some words.
We're just,
it's just four guys doing their best,
you know?
It's just four guys.
You don't have to watch it.
Trying to make internet content.
And,
you know,
that's it.
I don't know.
You don't have to watch it.
There's nothing sinister at play.
Yeah,
we,
you know,
we got a couple lucky bounces.
And now we're on this golf podcast and golf YouTube channel.
And Dave Portnoy.
is our boss and it's an amazing opportunity and you know we didn't that was it it's really it people
think there's so much more going on when it's just like bro we wake up every morning and we're
just trying we're just trying shit and then people are yelling at us and we're still just like
all right man we're going to keep trying that's as simple as that it's crazy you guys ever had any
bad real life interactions like like basically a commenter version of a real life interaction only at
golf courses when people get like shit-faced drunk at like a like a golf event.
I've had like two or three where guys are in a big group being like,
you're fucking pathetic, Frankie.
I'm like, all right.
Like, all right.
But even that is like,
like,
this guy's an asshole.
That's just talking shit.
That's not like you're terrible.
You ruin the show.
I'm never going to listen to Foreplay ever again because you're on it.
You know what I mean?
Like those are just drunk.
Did you find my burner?
I'm just kidding.
That's a joke.
No.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I'm in the same boat as Frankie.
I think I've had one or two.
I actually remember.
being at the black during whatever whenever we were there the PGA and when people get late in the
night and I was trying to rush out there to go find a group and you're right it's when people get
drunk that they're like all right now I can say this thing to this person that I follow on the
internet I see him in person I'm going to try it and I got one and I was like that was weird man
and he walked away I was like all right cool yeah I don't know I was going to say I bet I bet it's
been less than five in seven years of
doing this whole thing that have been truly negative.
Like Dan's saying, there's obviously when people are just kind of like busted balls or shit.
But I would say there's been, there's definitely been a few where I'm like, oh,
that was malicious.
That guy was like trying to say he hates what we do.
Is that mostly from fans or from like other media people?
No, it would be.
No, I'm saying like human beings in real life that like interact and say like, hey, like, you know,
I don't know, walk by.
I'd be like, Riggs, you're terrible like you're ruining golf like that.
But I'd say that.
This has happened three or four times maybe, like ever.
And so it happens on the internet all over the,
but so it's just a funny like difference between clearly the comment section and real life.
Okay.
Mycoba real quick.
Russell Henley wins, fourth win.
Great for him.
I'm sure he's a nice guy.
I was put this down in my notes as like a,
maybe the most classy example of a tournament that I don't know how this even exists or makes money.
8.5 million
$8.2 million purse.
He made $1.5 million.
I saw a bunch of guys tied for third,
including our boy Scotty Schaeffler
and our boy Joel Damon,
which is great.
They made $375 grand for that.
But if this tournament disappears,
like does it,
and this is a real genuine conversation,
not shitting on the tournament,
but we talk a lot about Live and PGA Tour
and how the PGA tour's got all this gravitas to it
and people care so much about it.
This is a good example
if you're going to play devil's advocate,
in my opinion.
of something that like, who the fuck cares about the Miacoba tournament in November, right?
Yeah.
So last year I went to this tournament.
And it's held at this incredibly beautiful resort in Mexico.
There's like three hotels, kind of like Bahamas where they share a campus.
It's called Mioca.
And there's no one there.
There's like no fans there.
Yeah.
And I remember I was staying at the Ondaz Hotel, which is a really, really nice hotel on a, on like a meteor rate.
And I had the same thought that rigs out of like, what's going on here?
How are we all at this amazingly beautiful place in Mexico?
We all have our stuff paid for and there's no one watching the tournament.
The way I conceptualize this one is it's sponsored by this company called Worldwide Technology,
which is like a really, really big cybersecurity company.
And I basically think they use this as an event to entertain their business partners.
Because last year I remember the only...
Put them up in the hotels and all that bullshit.
That's what it is.
They put them up in the hotels.
They say come to Mexico.
You know, they play golf themselves at other courses.
And, you know, if they have to put up seven or eight months,
million bucks to keep their biggest corporate partners happy because they can hang out in the hospitality
and come to Mexico for a week, then it's worth it for them to do so. But this is why the PGA
tour is getting out of the fall business. Like there's just no juice at all. They asked for Ray
Maceroy last week or whenever he won the event he won the CJ Cup. They said, what should the fall
season look like on the PGA tour? And he said football. It should just be football season.
Yeah. Because this is one, this is like a tree falling in the forest. It didn't even really happen.
Right. And look, it's great for a Russell Henley for a Joel Damon. I told you guys.
I got beers with Joel like the three days before he left.
And I was like, oh, when do you play?
And he's like, I'm actually going to Mexico on Monday.
And he's like, I know people shoot in the fall, but this is a great event for me.
He's like, the field's weaker.
My wife loves it.
The spa is incredible.
We have a really fun time.
And when I play well there, I can make a good amount of money.
So I go and it's great for me.
So for a lot of guys on the tour that aren't necessarily Roy McRoy, it's fucking
great.
And if the company, the worldwide technology championship at Mayakoba could justify it on their end,
the tour is obviously going to take their money.
They're going to keep the event going and all that bullshit.
But this just stuck out to me as like, I mean, for a spectator,
this is almost more like a live event than anything else.
It's like the people on site that there weren't that many are there to like have a good time and kind of fuck around.
It's not like life or death who wins or loses.
And the players are going to get paid to kind of go down to Mexico, play golf and have themselves a good time.
Yes, it's PJ Tour.
They're still, I mean, you get into the, you know, tournaments and exemptions by winning.
so it's great on that front.
But overall, I don't think a sports fan is really going to give a fuck about the Maya Cobra.
Do you think there's any conversation in the PJ tour about like average viewership for a tournament?
So you look across the board and you say, this tournament gets that many.
And obviously these new, I mean, they're new.
The elevated events are new.
But there have been quote unquote elevated events throughout history.
And then you have a Mayacoba that just crushes the average where there's no, everybody's
watching football.
Everybody's watching the World Series.
everybody's watching all these other sports that are going on.
Nobody's going to turn on the Maya Coba Golf Tournament.
Is there any conversation where it's like this thing negatively affects the average viewership to a degree where you almost want to shudder it?
And I'm not suggesting that.
I'm just.
I bet this is one where they pitch to potential sponsors the average viewership for the year.
And this is one where in another tournament, they pitch the average viewership for that tournament.
Right.
Like they just, they separate the two.
That is what they got to be doing.
The way it's separated is this one's actually not on network TV.
It's only on Golf Channel.
So they can say, oh, our average broadcast across our 20 event NBC season, which
starts, you know, in Hawaii and runs through the Tour Championship, they can weed out
the fall events because they're not technically part of like the network package.
Gotcha.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
And I think the network package, the viewership's been up.
Like last year, even without Tiger, it was they have, the golf has been doing really, really
well viewership-wise because of the boom and because there's a lot of, you know, good young players
with people like watching and participation's up,
but I agree that I think last yesterday
is probably not a number they're going to want to publicize.
Congrats to Joel, our guy playing well, T3, like to see it.
Almost made an ace on a par four.
That was nuts.
That hit the hole, right?
It did, yeah.
Because I don't know how you see a driver stop like that.
That was an unbelievable shot.
Colin and Scotty were up there as well, so good weeks for them.
I would like to mention real quick.
I saw Bryson DeShambos father passed away,
and I saw his quote,
just reminding me that everybody's a person.
I know on this show, like we obviously, we've had our takes, most of them negative,
especially lately on Bryson and the rope and the whole deal.
Just a friendly little perspective pie reminder that everybody's a human being.
When I saw his quote, you know, it may be kind of sit back and be like, man, that just absolutely stinks.
I felt very empathetic for him in that situation and the grief and the sorrow and losing your father.
So that's terrible news feel for Bryson DeShambeau.
And obviously hope, you know, that he's in his.
family and all that are handling well. So just reminded me that Bryson's a person when I saw that
come across my desk. Totally. It's a good point. The match. So we got a new announcement. I know it kind
leaked last week. We heard whispers about this for several weeks. I know our scoop guy, Dan was really
hoping to be able to run with this, but it's now been tweeted out from Tiger and everybody else
that the next iteration of the match, Tiger Woods, Justin Thomas, Roy McRoy, and Jordan Speeth,
about as good of a cast of characters on the golf front as you could probably get at this point.
Pretty awesome. I think the natural teams is really nice too. Some of these times we've been like,
who's going to play together? It seems kind of weird. It's like, nope, Tiger and Rory, they're going to make
a gazillion dollars with tomorrow sports. They're obviously become really close to the last couple
years talking about the future of the PJ Tour. And then he got JT and Speed, who have been best
friends since they were kids and who have been crushing it in the rider in the President's Cup.
So we got natural teams. You got four of the five or seven biggest names. And I talked about
this. I wrote about this when it happened. The reemergence of these things, of these made for TV,
made for TV matches has been a good thing, just an undoubtedly good thing.
There was a break there for a while, kind of between like 2005 and 2018, where they went
away.
It came back with Tiger playing Phil for $9 million on Black Friday a couple years ago, and
they've been pretty consistent since.
So we like the match.
We like trying new things.
It's 12 holes under the lights, made for TV.
December 10th, golf is not anywhere near anyone's mind at that point.
So we like to keep golf fresh and these four are the perfect ones to do it.
12 holes, Pelican Golf Club?
Yeah.
I like that.
Do you think those are the four biggest stars active in golf?
Besides Phil probably has the name recognition.
I don't know if Phil's a bigger star at this point.
I don't know.
I think for the average Joe,
it obviously depends how you measure star.
But yeah, all four of these guys were in the top like seven, I think, of the pit.
Bryson and Brooks are up there too.
I think these are the four.
I think these are the four.
I don't know that I don't think Bryce and Brooks have J.T.
star power. I think Spieth, Rory, Tiger are pretty obvious. I would say JT's, yeah, JT's, I think this is about
the biggest four you can have. If you had to power rank the star for the star power of the four,
how would you rank them? I think Tiger one, Rory two is clear. Spieth is a star. He is a star.
You think speed is a bigger star than Rory? I would go Tiger, Rory, Speeth, JT. I think everybody's
got Tiger one, everybody's got JT4.
I think, yeah, that's
the only reason I say, and I don't
necessarily think that Spieth is a bigger star than Rory,
but there's something about that
early run of his that really
stuck with people, and Rory's been consistent
throughout. He was the heir to the throne,
although Spieth was also the heir to the throne.
And Rory probably is a bigger star,
actually probably undoubtedly, but there's
something about Spieth that people
love, and they will love him
forever. They'll never forget when he was
one of the masters at such a young age,
He was so good, so young.
I just think it's a conversation.
Roy ultimately is a bigger star, but people fucking love Spieth.
They love him.
They do love Spieth, man.
He is, yeah, he is like a roller coaster that you have to jump on, you know,
whereas Rory might be a bigger star, but I do think people almost get more emotionally invested in Spieth.
He's just, I don't know, man.
When Rory's at the top, there's really nothing like it, dude.
Speeth's flaws are so apparent and people love that about him.
Roy's perfect.
And you won't hear me argue against Roy on this podcast, really.
But there's speed is so, Riggs is right, he's such a roller coaster that you just never totally
know what you're going to get.
And people love that.
When they cut to him and he's like behind a fucking tree with, you're just like, oh, it's
speed.
Here we go.
It's like, Rory.
Yeah.
Rory is just in the middle.
And he hits it of 10 miles.
But he's so classic.
to me and I always wonder about this with the sponsors. I've asked this question before. Like,
how did these companies get these guys to be exclusive? Like, I'm looking at the,
the graphic right now, and it's all Nike Tiger, all Nike Rory, all under Armour
Jordan. And then you got J.T. who's like Grayson, Titleist, lineage. He's got all these, like,
things on him. Like, what makes JT the guy that throws a bunch of sponsors? Well, I know that
the other guys are exclusive. Nike and Adidas typically have a one logo rule where you're not
allowed to have anything else on the on the on the shirt how much are they paying those guys to be able
to say like you're not throwing any other like like for rory mackeroi and tiger woods what is that number
j t seems like he's doing it right j t's like i'm just got throw them all on here and you're going to
pay me a shit ton of money for all of them right but i think he's probably getting less i think you
you think you pay extra for the exclusivity um but the thing about rory and spith is they both have
that kind of relatability which is which is odd right because they're both one's 32 once 30 i think
30 and they've got a jillion dollars.
But they both were, as Trent mentioned, the air apparent, the world at their fingertips,
and then something happened.
And so they're three-dimensional characters.
They're not just like win, win, win, win.
You've got Rory, who's got this eight-year drought and you've got Spieth, who was like legitimately
a bad golfer for two or three years.
So you have that extra element of not just are they young and really compelling and really
eloquent guys, but you've got this sort of narrative arc of them trying to fight their
way back.
Right.
I think it makes them super.
interesting. I think they're two of the biggest stars, bar none. Um, yeah, it's, ultimately it's Rory.
I think we probably would agree on that, but I think, I don't know, there's something about
speed that I just love and I think everybody does. Tiger Woods in a golf cart, baby, on television.
Let's go. Both the Pearl Jam and now the red hot chili peppers concert at the Apollo are now
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These shows sound unbelievable.
They're insane.
I do like, you've been to a couple of these, Frankie?
No, but I've seen the videos.
I've watched them.
They put them on there.
Yeah, I've seen them on Sirius XM.
They are incredible quality.
These bands, they actually give their best performances during these.
Like, they're small, intimate shows.
They're at the Apollo.
And they just go balls to the wall, beautiful sound.
They play all the hits.
It's an amazing show to go to.
Right out Chili Peppers, by the way.
Just, you throw a little.
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It's unbelievable how good they were.
And even just listening to
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They are so iconic. They just came out with the new album, by the way, really good.
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How about Tiger Woods and Charlie that clip went viral yesterday?
Charlie warming up for that Notta Begay tournament.
I can't get over Tiger looking more like he's playing in the tournament than Charlie is.
Black pants.
Tucked in, tucked like athletic fit.
He's not wearing.
Golf shoes on, like just so ready to go.
Swear I think he had a golf glove on as he was cleaning one of the clubs.
Just the guy can do no wrong when he's on a golf course.
The way he cleans those clubs is the greatest way.
Like, it's, it's such a fine, just like across the chest and a little bit of a thumb action as he's looking at the ball flight from Charlie.
He's not even looking at the grooves.
He's kind of just like moving around with his left thumb.
Like, all right, I'm going to clean these grooves out as I fucking just watch my son become the next greatest golfer of all time.
Oh, God.
So good.
I analyzed that just like an hour.
A little bit of a limp as you went to the bag, but that's just who he is now.
He's like a couple inches shorter on the, on the, um,
on the one side.
So that brings me to our set of pool questions.
And again, this is going to be, you know,
yeah,
or nay on each,
each one from each person on the show.
So this is not the wheel.
We haven't done the wheel yet.
The wheel,
I thought this would be a little bit too polarizing of a time
on election day to be doing the wheel.
Thought maybe we'd save that.
I think people calm down a little bit after the election.
There's a little bit of a grace period where you chill out.
Not my president.
We might want to do it Thursday or day.
next week.
Is the wheel going to be political?
Well, the wheel is going to include some minefields.
Yeah, there's some minefields in there.
That's the part of the wheel.
The wheel is, I'm going to say there's, I want to put 12 spots on the topic
wheel, and I'm going to have eight of them are going to be pretty standard.
Like, you know, what's your thought on Phil Mickelson, you know, chances in the masters
next year?
And then four of them might be, you know, like, what was your first instinct when you heard
the latest ruling on Roe v.
Wait.
And like, okay, all right.
So it's a weird.
Frankie, you're going to start breaking that iPad out and start reading, pal.
You got to start getting informed.
No, I mean, that's Frankie fact.
It's facts before fiction.
So, I mean, whatever I say is just true.
Yeah.
And you just got to get your, you know, you got to get your way through somebody
looking at you with that topic and saying, what's your take?
And then you're up next to speak.
And whatever happens happens at that point.
So that's kind of how the wheel works.
This is different.
This is not as, uh, not as many landmines.
not as problematic, I would say, is the polls.
We're going to start with the first question.
And we'll list, hopefully we'll just put a little social graphic out there of the questions
and where everybody, you know, voted on this.
In 2023, will Tiger Woods play in more than five events?
Will Tiger Woods play in more than five events?
Nay.
Nay.
I say, hmm.
Well, it depends.
Are they official events or, I mean, like the match doesn't count, right?
We're talking about like 72 whole PJ tour event.
I'm going to say, I'm going to say yay, you know, I have a little bit.
I have a little bit of good, good juju going in for Tiger coming into this year, obviously.
Things didn't go great last year, but they kind of did if you think about where he was.
The guy still made a couple cuts in major championships.
Like, and he's had a ton of months to recover.
He's playing in the PNC.
he's playing in this match.
Like the guy can still play golf.
I think if the Masters goes well,
he's going to have that bolt of energy being like,
I can do this this year.
Dude, remember when he,
the hype of him walking with Joe Likava around Florida
the week before the Masters tournament last year
when those little videos hiding behind like palm trees
were fucking taking videos of him walking around the golf course
and we were like, holy fuck,
is he going to play in the Masters next week?
And then he played and then he made the cut.
And then he made the cut at Southern Hills.
I'm saying yay because I think four majors, the players championship,
and I think he sneaks in like a Riviera or something like that.
It's close.
That's why I put the number at five.
But I think he can play once a month, January.
He's probably not going to play because I think Torrey Pines is the only place he would.
And I just don't think it fits him as well anymore with its cold and the whole deal.
So I'm going to say I think he plays once a month, February, March, April, May, June, July,
and then he's done because obviously he won't qualify for FedEx.
I doubt he'll play in the Ryder Cup.
That's my, that's my, I'm going to say, yeah.
I don't think Tiger Woods is going to play another U.S. Open maybe, period.
Wow.
I don't think the U.S. Open makes any sense from him at this point in his career.
It's just long.
The rough is long.
It's physical.
It's tough.
He wasn't playing well in U.S. opens before the injury, the latest injury.
He didn't play in it this year.
I just, I can't really see him playing in many U.S. opens going forward.
So then that leaves three majors, and I think he'll try to play Riviera, which is his event.
And then Hero.
But Hero, but Hero would be.
and that also is not an official event.
So I think he's on three majors in Riviera diet for the foreseeable future.
I just don't think his leg can physically get that much better.
Right.
Frank,
you mentioned the word recover.
You're saying,
you know,
Tigers had all this time to recover.
I don't think that is the way he even looks at it anymore.
Like,
you could give him two years to recover,
and it's going to be the same as it would be if you gave him six months to recover.
Like that leg is so bad now that it's what it is is,
the recovery part of it, it's important initially after a tournament, but in a certain point,
that leg is what it is. So, yeah, I agree with Dan. I think four is the right number.
There's got to be some aspect to recovery because he comes out so hot on Thursdays. Like, he plays
really well on Tuesday practice round, Wednesday practice round. The guy's leading the major on
Thursday. Everyone's like, holy shit. And then he tapers off as his leg deteriorates throughout the week.
But maybe after a year of that and like actually going through it and playing during these majors and
missing the cut at the open and all of these things.
Like he,
he's able to like figure it out.
He is Tiger Woods.
He does write his own history books.
There is no way to see how a leg like that operates because no one's ever had Tiger
Woods's abilities with that leg.
So he writes his own fucking history.
A lot of sense.
That's what he does.
You don't like,
there is no standard for what a leg like that does for a human because there's never
been a tiger woods before that's done that.
It's a good,
it's a good point.
If there's anyone who could do it,
something that we thought was patently impossible,
it is Tiger Woods.
Will Trent break 90 in
2023?
Come on, man.
203?
It's still 2022?
I thought you were going to say 22.
Well, I've, I'm wondering if you guys are out of time up there.
I mean, how long you got left up there.
It's 75 degrees in New York today.
Yeah, that is incredible.
I did see that.
Yeah, we're doing one with a t-shirt.
It's nice.
We're doing a break in 90 this week for sure.
And actually,
or as I thought you guys were pretty much done at this point for the.
I, well,
we're so not done hold on my fucking microphone just keeps going down we're so not done and I'm sorry to
anyone this this audio could be horrific today I got to figure out this mic it goes up and down there's like a
regulation system on it it's fucking ridiculous um we're doing we're so we are so dialed into breaking 90
and I refuse to stop doing these that I am now editing the videos I'm I'm taking control of breaking
90 I will be we will be filming them I'll be taking them home I will be editing them
myself, I'm getting back in the fucking lab, and I will be making sure that these videos come out.
It's on me now. So you can scream at me. You can yell at me. You can put it all on me.
The editors have so many fucking videos to put out that I refuse to sit back and watch this guy not
break 90. I will do it on the golf course with him. And then I will do it on my computer as I get
home. And we are going to break 90 and we are going to be putting videos out nonstop during the
winter. That's what we're doing. So then it would be will we do it by the new years?
I don't think so. But I do think that we're going to attempt a lot.
I think the over under is like February of 23.
I don't think you're that close.
I think you're close, but I don't,
I think it's going to take a lot to shoot by Super Bowl,
by the Super Bowl.
I, um,
that's the one.
That's,
I'm going to say no.
I think it's right in that sort of like late February,
early March period.
I like say March 3rd.
I like the added pressure of like now I've got my guy Frankie.
I'm putting work on his plate.
So the more I don't do it,
the more work I give him.
So we are shooting one this.
week and if I don't do it, then that puts automatically puts a video in the future on Frankie's
place. Right. And I'm going to start getting really aggravated. It's going to be like holiday times.
I'm going to be wanting to do stuff. We obviously had the busiest year of all time. We took like 60
flights each. Everyone's like how the fuck did you go all these places this year? We have the bar so
classic every single week. We're fucking so busy. This is supposed to be our off time. And now I'm getting the
editing. I thought that I moved on in my life to not have to edit anymore. I literally deleted Premiere Pro
and I deleted final cut.
That was like the greatest day of my life.
I did that for five years for Dave Portnoy.
It was the hardest, grueling process of all time.
I loved it.
I loved the grind.
So maybe I'll get that back.
I am searching for that like deadline, got to get a video out high because there is
nothing like it.
I don't know.
There may not be that many people that listen to this, this podcast that are in that
field.
Certainly the guys behind the scenes that are listening to this right now are.
But there's something about like you have a timeline and a video and you
got to get it out by like 12 o'clock tomorrow and there's no sleep that night before and you're
just like I have to put the finishing touches on this thing and hitting like export is the greatest
feeling of all time until the it ends up crashing and then you want to fucking kill yourself
but I want that high again I will I will regret this because I know we have 11 more episodes
to go so will Trent break 90 by the Super Bowl I'm going to say yay by February
10th or something you got to figure that we're going to have to circle and
No, no, no, not going to play for a while.
No, that's what I'm going to bring up.
So if I don't do it, you know, this next time out, or whenever the weather turns on Long Island
in New York, which apparently is not going to be for like another two or three weeks.
We've got to do one in the snow.
You just got to fucking, but then we are.
We started this thing.
This guy was on a lake jumping into fucking into tubes.
That's when we started this fucking series.
And now we're going to do it in the snow.
It's like, how long has this gone on?
Well, so we are, you know, the budget for this show is very small.
You know, it is sponsored, so we make money on it.
But we spend like $100 an episode, basically Uber's to and from the golf course.
But if the weather turns, which is going to, and I haven't done it yet, which I'm going to try to do this week, we will travel.
We'll go to Florida.
We'll go somewhere warm and we'll shoot episodes.
Like, that's just what we'll do.
There's not going to be.
We go to Disney.
We just get our mind off it.
You know what I mean?
There's not going to be the, the northeast break because planes exist.
We can go down to Florida and try to break 90.
We're going to keep going to this.
thing full go until I do it.
And I...
Maybe go to that massage parlor down there I keep hearing about.
You know, take a little stress off.
I think it closed.
I will not be going there.
If it's closed, I can't go.
But Florida or wherever,
I think I will have it done by...
I think I'll have it done by the Super Bowl.
I think so.
I hope so.
I say yay.
I say yay.
I think we get it done.
If not tomorrow,
if we don't,
if I'll see,
how your game is tomorrow and then I'd like to reassess my answer. If you're like
striping the ball the way you were the last time I saw you, I think that you're going to do it
within the next four weeks. But if not, I think it's going to be a long road. I do. This guy
plays ball and whole like USGA rules. You know how hard it is for him to like pick up five and six
strokes and with those within that format? Every ball's got to find the bottom of the cup.
Fuck you if you're watching this trying to fucking tell me that this guy's not trying. This guy's got to get the
ball in the hole, man. That is so hard to do for 18 holes. And improve. It's very difficult for me.
It's very difficult. And improve. Number three, do you believe we will confirm extraterrestrial
life, aka life existing not on earth during our lifetimes? And I put a little caveat in there
because lifetime is a little vague. So I'm going to say by the year 2075, which gives us another
basically 50 couple years from now. I don't think I'm.
make it. I got to tell you, we've talked a lot about the simulation theory recently and I've
been thinking a lot about it. I'm starting to flip on this. The obvious answer that people always give
is that the universe is so big and there's so many places that we don't know about so many universes,
so many galaxies, so many this, so many that, that statistically the chances are, of course
there's more life out there. Not only is there probably more life out there, there's probably
an infinite amount of life out there. That's what everybody says. The scientists will say that,
whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever.
I've been thinking about the simulation theory so much that I think we might be alone.
I think, wow.
The makers, the people pulling the levers, the puppet masters, I think they buried us so deep
and put us in this video game for us to make us think that, oh, of course there's something
else out there.
We just got to find it or it's got to find us.
I think it's a fool's errand.
I'm starting to flip on it.
What would be...
You've been spending too much time with Frankie is.
What would be,
No, but he's definitely on the opposite end of this.
Does that mean that we're alone though?
Like,
I would say the same thing to you that there is a simulation for sure someone's pulling the levers,
but does that mean that we're alone?
That would mean to me that like we're the least alone.
Right, because someone is pulling the levers.
Like there's eyes on us.
It's like we're sure, but I don't, I don't think there's eyes on us.
I don't think there's, I think they made it and there's a simulation come from.
If we're like in the natural setting of the universe,
if you believe in just this thing just happened,
like that would be the most alone
if you actually didn't think there was aliens out there
or like other life, right?
You'd be like, yeah, we just happened to be lucky
on this one planet.
If you think that someone legit put us here
in a simulation theory,
that's like the most we're not alone,
like debate of all time.
Well, the question of alone is, is it,
are we going to find people like us?
Is usually the question.
Then I would say these days I'm starting to think no.
I just,
and I get that I'm probably
wrong and people are going to throw a bunch of quantum mechanics at me.
But like, wouldn't it be the craziest thing if we were able to find somebody else?
But I just don't think it's happening.
Well, what I would say is we, I actually think this whole belief that like we, there has to be a bunch of other life is pretty new.
Because forever it was just like religion based and it was like we're earth is the center of the
universe and there's a God and the gods overlooking us or whatever your different religion was.
Whereas I think this whole like mathematics behind there's so many planets and so many stars and the chances and numbers are so infinitely high that there has to not only be other life, but like infinite other life.
I feel like that's pretty new.
And I just, I feel like it would be a real shame if we're this fucking close.
They talk about it all the time.
And we got these, these pilots, these Air Force pilots that are, you know, releasing videos of these.
crazy fucking things flying around that can't be explaining anything else be a real shame if we're fucking
right there we're born in this generation and we just don't get to live through and they confirm that
there's other life there's also all these let's call them alien groupies out there who are saying
oh there's the oh there's these advanced societies that are just you know outside of our scope
and we just can't get them and there's so much more advanced than us if they showed up their you know
their comprehension would be a million times better than ours and their ships would be a million
times better than ours. All right. Then how about pull up aliens? Just pull up. If you guys are so
great, if you're as great as all these people are saying, that the fuck up. Show yourself.
Step up, pull up. Like if you got the- I think they did. They did. That's why the pyramids are there.
But, and then that's also why we figured out like how to like have Wi-Fi and internet.
Well, if you want the truth about the pyramids, it's that it was just slavery for like a hundred years.
And they built it. They were my people, Frank. I don't know how they can get them. I don't know how they can get them out of there.
Like, there's just so high and so heavy.
But you just throw a lot of people at it.
I know, but it's endless people.
You make,
you make them do it.
There's definitely some forms of life.
I'm kind of with Trent on this where it's like,
if we found some protozoa or some bacteria somewhere,
that wouldn't really surprise me.
I just,
I don't think it's as evolved as we are.
But I think we,
we see the building blocks of life in our lifetime.
Yeah, but it wouldn't be that surprise you.
That would be a yes.
That would mean if there's fucking algae on another planet,
that it's over.
I don't think we're going to like stumble upon.
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to stumble upon a rigs for Marcell.
Didn't they find some sort of life on like an exoplanet where it was like it was like the idea of like water and like a running fresh river that would run?
That was Mars.
Didn't they talk about Mars?
There was evidence of running water in the past.
But I don't know, not currently.
I think there was an exoplanet that they said like there's like some sort of like obviously they haven't gotten there.
But from their from their viewpoint that it most likely would have like the algae type.
And then I remember saying.
in the podcast and everyone's like, oh, I need a guy with two eyes and fucking two legs and two arms
coming here and like saluting us. Like it was always like the argument that it needs to be a human.
Don't you got, don't you feel that way? Like if you, if we found what, what Dan just described,
like that's not going to, that's not going to blow my dick off my body. I need, I need someone being like,
someone at the other end of the telescope being like, what up guys? What's up? Holy shit. I can't believe
we found each other. If they do find bacteria on another planet, that means the guy you're looking for is out there.
100%.
Yeah, I'm with trying to
It wouldn't really do it for me
100%.
I think I would scroll past that
See that I'd be like oh
Maybe they'll actually find someone eventually
And then keep scrolling
But then you believe
So then you do believe that that's already out there
Because that wouldn't change anything
Yeah, I believe that's out there
I believe that's out there
I believe that there's like bacteria and stuff
That's already out there for you want to scream
I think we got buried so deep
In this simulation that the people who made it
They forgot about us
They don't give a fuck about us anymore
And they're like oh I wonder what's going on
With that thing that we created
and we're just all looking for something.
I can't. I can't handle this. I can't die.
Alistair Dirty T-36.
Still right on the number.
That's cool.
Alistair. It's going to be such a sweat.
I can't think about it.
Lights turning off, you know? I just can't think about it.
What?
Just like just the idea that like it's all going to be over one day is just not something I can
handle.
Where were you during the Roman Empire?
Nowhere.
That's right.
I know. I know. I know. I know. I just can't, you know.
Is that what does it?
for him? No, I'm saying that that's what I made it click for me.
You don't remember before. So why would you like, why would anything after me? I remember some
comedian and I don't remember who it was. Just makes me want to puke. Because I thought a lot about
this. When I first started smoking weed as an 18 year old, you start to be like, what's going on?
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I see a tweet from Hank, Hank Lockwood, Henry, Hennees on Twitter.
He says, I am sick of Elon.
Hashtag Trent was right.
I'd like to get your take, Trent.
Elon obviously has been crazy in the news, obviously overtook Twitter.
People are getting their shit fucking can.
What was that guy?
Ligma Johnson, the two guys that got, they got fired from Twitter headquarters.
And the one guy's name was Ligua, and the other guy's name was Johnson.
And Elon was like, these guys just had to get out of here.
I would like to know where do you stand on this whole thing? Because you've been anti-Elon the whole time. Now he's like very much in your life. The guy owns Twitter now. He wasn't he's not just making these cars that he says that can fly one day. Where are you where do you stand on Elon right now? I think he has put himself in a position that he does not want to be in. I don't think he ever actually wanted to buy Twitter and the Twitter board was like how much and he was he was on Twitter. He was like 44 billion. They came to a price, whatever. And now that he's in control of it, he wants nothing to do with it. He tweeted. He tweeted.
last week, comedy is now legal on Twitter.
What I think about Elon is, I think he bought Twitter because he thinks this is what he thinks
that the cool people on Twitter that he perceives that are cool are going to make him super cool.
If he goes on Twitter and says, you know, comedy is now legal on Twitter, what the fuck
does that even mean?
Yeah.
It's such a broad statement, but everyone who he perceives to be cool is now saying, yeah,
Yeah, man. Fuck, yeah. Comedy's legal on Twitter again. That's amazing. And then he turns around yesterday and he says, if there's anyone running parody accounts that don't explicitly state that they are a parody account, they will be banned. So what does that mean? Like, I really think he's in over his head. He doesn't want it. And now he's got to manage this thing that no one can manage. Twitter is impossible to manage. It's not something that you can come in and say, all right, these are going to be the content preferences or the things that people got to follow. You're going to piss people.
off and you just get in over your head. He's already got a million things going on. He's got
SpaceX. He's got Tesla. He's got all these little, all these companies that he has started. And I really
do think he got caught up in the people who are perceived to be oppressed on Twitter being like,
you got to take this thing over and, you know, free us. And he's like, oh, I bet people will think
I'm cool if I do that. And now he's trying to manage a social media platform that is unmanageable.
And he's completely in over his head. And now,
he's tweeting today like you know since the president is a democrat you now need to vote republican
in the midterms because there needs to be a balance of power like what happened to the guy who
just wanted to run Twitter make it free speech for everyone it's it's a fucking mess honestly
it's a whole mess that I think he doesn't actually want to be involved in yeah I totally agree
it's and you go through his Twitter and he just doesn't know where to fall he doesn't know who to
make happy at this point right tweet seems
now he's tweeting that like birds aren't real and he's trying to be funny and he's getting
700,000 likes and retweets and every tweet he sends now, it's like he thinks each tweet that he
sends is going to be the difference maker on the internet and in the country. Like he holds
the pulse, the beating pulse of America now, Elon Musk. It's crazy how much he's come to the
forefront of our brains and minds now. This guy is taking over. Elon Musk, low key, is taking
over the world. It's also, it's kind of working for him. Like he's taking over. It is.
over.
But it's funny, you're seeing a real life.
He's like slowly doing it as if it's a joke.
Like, I'm just going to get Twitter.
And I'm also going to like buy up all the batteries for all the electric cars.
And I'm also, it's just like, what do you?
What are you doing?
Everything.
I think the Twitter thing is going to turn on him.
I think that I think that was a mistake.
I think everything else, listen, I've talked a lot of shit about Elon, whatever.
Like I just, I make fun of him because he makes his promises.
Yeah, yeah, right.
But I just think the Twitter thing is not going to end up being what he thought it was going to be
because he's going to put the clamps on certain things.
and people are going to be like, wait, when you first bought it,
we didn't want you to put the clamps on that.
And then he's going to have to try to please the other side.
He's trying to please size that I just don't think it's ever going to work out trying to do something
like that.
I think it's like a real life example of the commenter getting the keys.
Do you know what I mean?
Like he's, it's much easier to be the guy on the outside who's like, this is the problem.
We're going to fix this, that, this, that.
We're going to have all these spicy tweets.
Everyone's going to love my tweets.
I'm going to be the savior.
I'm going to be the guy who's going to come in here and save Twitter.
But then once you're actually, you got the wheel.
and you have to make the decisions,
it's a lot harder to please all those different people.
And I think he's learning that now,
that it's much easier to be the outsider saying,
this is wrong,
this is wrong.
It's like if you gave a fan who's like,
oh, Brian Cashman is the worst GM in the world
or this, you know, owners.
And then you're,
then the fan becomes the owner.
And he realizes the, hey,
it's actually not that simple.
And maybe the guy was struggling for a reason.
Yeah, it's also, I mean, Elon has done this with,
to a degree,
you know, social media platforms different than a cup.
But like, when he came,
out with we're going to build Tesla and electric cars, he was laughed at. All the other car companies
laughed at him immensely. He poured a ton of his wealth into it. And I was like, you can't fucking
do that. There's no way. And they lobbied against him. And he became the richest person in the
world. So I think that like we are seeing a very, um, we're seeing something concretely play out
that everybody's kind of thought about, which is like how ingrained.
are social media apps in real life.
And if he buys something that is like,
should there be from a rightful standpoint,
like should there be something,
you know, regulating, dictating, controlling,
helping out with Twitter that is from a societal, like,
good standpoint and not just a billionaire that owns it that fucks around?
Like is it so ingrained in society that it's important in terms of speech?
and messaging and news and people breaking news and all that stuff.
Journalism is it so important that it needs to be regulated.
It's what Facebook went through forever.
But like this is a wild, wild kind of takeover of something that is ingrained in conversation.
It's not as big as TikTok and Instagram,
but it's pretty fucking ingrained in conversation to the point where it was like,
all anybody talked about with the last president.
And now somebody just took it over and owns it and could do whatever the hell they want with it.
that's that's never really happened with something that allows people to have a voice and impacts
and tweets literally make news like tweets from big figures from celebrities from you know
athletes it gets people canceled and now somebody just owns that it's a very interesting
he was tweeting about he was tweeting about free speech and how he wants to have it be like a free
speech platform but then he's like I also have people tracking my planes which is like a direct like
personal safety problems.
And he goes, I'm keeping those people on Twitter just so you know.
So it is a wild, wild west if this guy does just like have the doors open and there's no locks on it.
And then also, obviously, the craziest thing what's going to happen is if he brings, if he brings the bad man Donald Trump back on Twitter, this world's just going to burn.
Like no one's going to know what's going to happen.
It's just crazy to me.
You think these people knew what was going to happen when they fucking started these companies, Facebook and Twitter and Instagram?
No chance.
You watch the social network and he just wanted to just come up with something.
for him while he was drunk for his school and his friends and to find girls and to get back at his
girlfriend. It's just like, dude, this shit changed the world.
Then he's sitting in front of the Senate like, oh, fuck.
This shit changed the world. And I wonder where the world would have went had they not thought of it.
Do you think someone else would have thought of this stuff, like social media in general?
I remember when Twitter came out, I just thought it was like Facebook status. I didn't really understand
it. You know what I mean? Because Facebook was first and you were able to write like things in your
Facebook status. Then Twitter came around. I was like, what are people going to use this for?
And then look at it now. You also realize why the people who previously owned Twitter were so quick to
give it up. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. How do I do this thing? Pay us a bunch of money. This shit's
your problem now, dude. Before the next election, they're like, we're done, dude. We don't want
any of this like Russia coming in for the next election, all this crazy shit. They're like,
we just want to own nice houses because we own this huge company. It's all like we want to do.
We don't want to get involved in politics anymore. Listen, Elon might prove us all
He might prove me wrong. I just think, listen, he is a brilliant engineer mind. That is as much as I made
fun of him, that is a hard thing to deny with Tesla and SpaceX and all these things. I just think
trying to wrap your arms around a social media platform is just so much different. And again,
he is maybe 5,000 times smarter than me. It might be a low number. I just, when you're dealing with
that many voices on one platform that are so just outrageous to it's, you just, you just, you just,
just it's a hard thing to manage. So I'll be very, like Rick said, it's a very interesting thing to
follow along. And those, right, it's, it's, it's tough. Like, when Zuckerberg was on Rogan, and he's
kind of hitting him with like, yeah, how, you know, how you handle when, with things like the, you know,
the Arab Spring or, you know, giant protests if they turn violent, like, you know, some groups, you, you,
most groups, you obviously want to allow because of free speech, if people gather, they have four
plans, but if some of them are like for bad, you know, ill intent reasons, then you shut those down.
But what if your algorithm gets it wrong or your team gets it wrong and you shut down ones that
you shouldn't? And it's like, now you're dictating literally uprisings and protests and the future
of, of countries and entire regions with like Frankie said, he's like writing fucking algorithms
on a goddamn window in your dorm room. And now here you are literally affecting the entire world.
And it's Twitter is impossible to get your arms around because look at the web.
websites, the, like, dark web versions of Reddit and stuff where they allow, they have no regulation,
no monitoring. And those things lead to people like live streaming mass shootings and stuff. And then so it's
like, well, you can't allow that because that's horrific. And you really see it leads to some
horrendous stuff and fosters bad speech and people get radicalized. But you also can't have it where
you're the one dictating who's allowed to speak on Twitter and who's not, because everyone's going to
point that you're biased whenever you don't allow a person that they want on there.
So finding somewhere in between those two is fucking impossible.
Right.
I remember my main takeaway from the Rogan Zuckerberg podcast was because they were talking
about content moderation, which is what everybody's talking about.
Like how do you decide what goes up?
What doesn't?
What do we oppress?
What do we, you know, amplify?
And one of Zuckerberg said, oh, we give it to a third party.
So we are not the people directly involved with what gets taken.
down what gets put up whatever but that third party is also human beings right like you can that
there's no like impartial body right that third party could then be like all right now we're also
going to go to a third party and it's like oh at the end of that road is always one guy being like
or a room of people or whatever being like no that can't go up this can't go up that can go up like
you're just never going to get to the bottom of it impartially ever and that person votes that
person has an opinion on abortion versus like right to life that person has a
an opinion on, you know, taxes and how much the government, like, they all have an opinion.
So it's like at some level that person's making the call or that group of people is making the call.
They're biased, even if they're going to try not to be. So yeah, he's he's, he's now at the helm of
this thing. And it's a fucking shit show. It was always going to know how we're all going to learn
from this. How is our humanity going to learn from this time of our existence? Because I feel like
this is such a major, major part. Social media is so new if you think about it. It's like when
look back to Roman days. We look back to what they did and we like try and make it better and we like build off what they did. How are people in 200 years going to look back at like what social media is doing right now and all the mistakes and how are they going to make it better? I honestly don't see how it can be fixed like but I'm sure it will be at some point. Like social media will just have a new thing to it that will just be better for humanity. But right now it's so new and so volatile and so fucking destructive. It's legit like introducing a new weapon in war.
where you're like, holy shit, now what do we do?
And like, obviously, as the years go on, it gets crazier.
But if it's the war route, then it's just going to get more destructive as the years go on,
as opposed to getting fixed.
Kind of what Frankie was talking about.
I remember the Biden administration was ticking around like an AI Bill of Rights or something.
Do you guys hear about this?
They're basically trying to start a new bill of rights for like the digital age.
It feels like we're going down that route where we're going to need to seriously like sit down
and have that process again.
of like we laid out all these rules for one world in the 1780s or whenever the constitution
was written and all these amendments and stuff.
Now we've got a whole other ballgame and trying to apply the laws from back then when
they had like muskets and horses to now when we've got my phone knows my face and pays for
my groceries.
It feels like we need something a little bit more.
Today we're like today we're electing the people that are going to come up with all that
and we don't know anything about it.
Full circle.
No.
And you find.
I have an absolute sewer fest in a group chat with like Democrats versus Republicans right now.
Everyone's screaming at each other making fun of their families.
It's just like what the fuck, man.
It gets, it goes so out of bounds and everybody does it.
So you just, I don't know how you come back from me.
We're just trying to nip wedges close to pins, man.
That's really all we're trying to do.
Like, I don't know when all this other stuff became important.
But like, I'm just trying to hit a nice 54 degree from 90s.
two yards next to a pin and get that ball in the hole.
And I'm trying to stop three putting.
Like, can we just focus on that stuff ever?
Is there ever a day that we can just focus on that?
Fuck.
No.
It's too much, man.
It's just too much.
You know?
The phone down?
Is that the answer?
I don't know.
No, it probably isn't the answer.
I actually think it probably is.
Yeah, I guess for us, we're just fucking a bunch of idiots talking about golf on a podcast,
but somebody has to keep the phone on.
Somebody's got to fix this shit.
Right.
Somebody's got to make these calls.
Somebody's going to write these like bill of rights for the internet that we're talking about.
Someone's literally going to invent that.
We might, who knows, dude?
We might be, uh, maybe like there's a three-year-old listening to this that one day
will write the fucking bill of rights for the internet.
And we've now influenced them to change the world for better.
We've got 30 more years of chaos if that purse, 30 or 40 maybe.
I mean, they're going to write it when they're 43.
And even when that comes out, there's going to be like a revolution between the people that
don't want to follow the rules.
And it's going to be fucking crazy.
It comes back to our point that every year, man, shit just has.
happens. Really important shit. Every year over history, big time.
What's crazy. That show the watcher I was watching. Oh, God. At one point, the guys like,
yeah, every like 40 years, something catastrophic happens in America. Like, we just have to try
and like wipe the slate clean. There's always something that happens. And he goes through all the,
like the stuff. It's like World War I and like the Korean War and all this stuff that just. And then
this took place in 2018, the watcher, I think. And he's like, he's like, we're due in like two years,
2020 something's going to happen.
There's like fucking COVID obviously happened.
So it's like it always feels like something is fucking brewing.
So yeah, it's never going to end.
There's always going to, whether it's every 10 years, every 40 years, every 20 years,
we just suck.
Humans suck.
The super lame answer.
The super lame answer is just be a nice person.
COVID is crazy.
Just be fucking nice to people.
It's fucking chaos.
Be kind.
Be empathetic.
Don't treat anybody like shit for no reason.
And if everybody does that, it'll be like a two.
degrees better. Someone said we skipped smooth
over 2021 and that made me laugh for like
two hours. We really did, man.
We just, 2021 was fucking skipped.
It was skipped. Just like a COVID pause.
It was skipped. The whole
year was fucking skipped.
When nothing happened.
Well, when I see shit pop up on my phone from 2021,
like in your photo camera roll when I look at that,
I'm like, what? It didn't happen.
We're on the other side of it, thankfully now.
And like, you know, obviously a lot of shit happened.
But what a time to be alive that that shit that we went through that.
My God.
My God.
This is what happens in the offseason of golf.
We talk about the craziest stuff all the time.
They canceled the masters.
Think about that.
It's just absolute.
They're like, no.
Lunacy.
They had the masters in November.
Right.
That's a fever dream.
And DJ shot like a Jillian under.
Yeah, he did.
What actually happened?
Like, you know what?
It was just like we were fucking getting punched.
Like I just never found my footing for three years.
It's just fucking chaos.
God.
You know,
living to my parents upstairs,
like my bedroom just like locked in my room with like a fever for like 18 days.
Being like,
what's going on?
You know what I mean?
Like what is happening?
What?
Can't see Nana?
What do you mean?
I stayed in New York the whole time.
I look back on that is maybe a mistake,
maybe not.
But it was very strange.
I could have gone back to Iowa.
I guess, but like how would I get there?
Like, what's the logistics with that?
Instead, I just woke up every morning,
look down on 2nd Avenue in Manhattan,
and there was nobody out there.
So weird.
It's one of the busiest streets in the city.
You just look down there, it's 1 p.m.
and there's there's tumbleweeds blown across the street.
It's very strange.
It's not, we're not out of the weeds.
I just saw on the news last night that like Apple can't,
they can't like get these iPhones out because of all the COVID restrictions in China again.
They're like stopping production on.
Supply wise, we might.
might not be out of the weeds, but I feel like lifewise we're,
we're sort of out of America.
I just don't hear about it anymore, right?
Yeah, I'm over it.
I'm over it.
You can't.
They can't go back.
It's all,
it's old,
like you can't.
Yeah, it's like,
it's like,
you know,
have to be dying from it, right?
I mean,
if people were dying two years ago from it,
they still got to be in a lot of commercials where they're like, you know,
if you are a person of high,
and I know this is not the right way to be,
even in my head.
I'm like, just,
just shut up.
Yeah, no, it's over.
Shut up.
You had your two years.
You know what it is?
Like everyone's like coughing.
We all just like the same thing happened last year.
We all just have it again.
And like no one's getting.
It's just like a part of the life now.
Like I was like for sure.
I'm just like sick all the time during the winter.
Like I could just have it easily.
I mean,
there's no doubt about it just having it.
But you just move on with your day.
I don't even think the restrictions.
T25 right now.
Oh,
it's a birdie.
Let's go.
Alistair's going to win this whole fucking thing.
Dude,
top 10 is like a whole other thing.
Really?
Top 10, which is at must.
And then what do you get something extra, top 10?
It's 12 starts versus eight starts.
Top 10 get 12.
The next 11 through 40, you get eight.
Wow.
Okay.
Let's go.
Winner gets the whole year.
Winner gets the whole year.
Dude, he could make a charge up this fucking leaderboard here.
Let's scare these guys in top 10 here, huh?
What are the leaders at?
The leaders are at 10.
T9 is minus 9.
He's at minus 4s.
He's got a way to go.
But this is like the number one day where you want to be the guy who posts a score early
because you do not want to be one of those guys playing the last three holes right on the number
because that is some level of nervousness that you don't want to deal with.
So you want to shoot that life on the line.
You want to shoot 67 sign and just sit there and chill the beer and get better and better.
It's also like he got through second stage on the number thinking that he had missed a short
put for like an hour crying being like I blew it.
So like it's almost like when somebody makes it the final table of World Series.
it's like you had to win a bunch of coin flips and like hands that you shouldn't have won to get there.
And this is the time that it's happening.
And now you're in control and you're thinking about all that.
And if you fucking blow it on the back night or whatever, it's like you might never get in this spot again.
And if you do well, might win on the fucking corn fairy tour and then win on the PJ tour.
It's like that's the fucking difference right now.
He's one out there hitting golf shots in fucking Georgia.
He's one bad swing like disastrous swing away from like we don't even want to talk about it.
And this is going to come out and it's going to either.
have happened one way or the other.
I do think he's trending, which is nice.
He started off shit, and then he got it together.
He was like five under at one point in the second round and then made, he hit one,
I think out of bounds or into a hazard on 15 and ended up only posting like two under.
And then he shot 66.
Now he's a couple under and he's looking at these T26 right now.
So it's like he's trending.
He's feeling good about himself.
It's not going the other direction.
So I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling confident.
Top 40 is like life changing.
Life changing.
It could be life changing for us.
Fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed.
Alasdair.
Should be wearing our shit out there.
All right.
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What are we an hour and a half into this thing?
We got, we can keep talking.
It's fucking off-season.
Any more polarizing topics we can talk about?
We really hit way more than I thought we were going to hit.
Like I would say I would.
I didn't think we were going to hit one of them.
And at one point, we were talking about, you know.
We talked about war, Elon.
We talked about.
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network at any point in 2023?
Yes. Yes.
Yeah. Now, will they be paid for the privilege? I don't know. But yeah,
there'll be something on FS-1.
If you don't think Greg Norman and Liv are going to go 10,
times harder next year with all the momentum they have built this year. They are one year into this
thing, one season into this thing. I mean, we didn't even think this was going to be a thing. Talk about
the way we felt about Tiger Woods where the guy was legit flying off a cliff where like he may
never live. He may never fucking walk. Like now he's playing in majors. Think about like that ride. Live, we had
the same sort of trajectory where it's like, this thing's not going to be something. And all of a
sudden you look back, you're like, holy fuck, they got Cam Smith. And,
Dustin Johnson and Phil Mickelson and they have a championship and they're giving out a billion
dollars. It's like what the fuck is happening right now? Where were we 12 months ago? Last week I saw it was
like, you know, they've got a free agency move like Taylor Gooch is leaving the four races to go to
the Bubba Watson team. You're just like, wait, wait, wait, this is actually happening in golf right now.
Did I see Greg Norman say that there's seven open spots or something? That's what he said,
because they're trying to get 60 pair layers apparently. They want there to be some like extras and
injury guys it's going to be revved up times a billion coming next year they are sitting in these
boardrooms being like we are full steam ahead and unfortunately for the pga tour like they're going to have
to answer i'm hoping that what comes out of this is the greatest rivalry in all of sports and it's
going to be live versus pga and they're going to somehow do a tournament against each other i hope at some point
the president's cup becomes live versus pgay can you imagine rory mackeroi playing for the pga tour versus
fucking Bryce and Deschambeau playing for live like coming down and match play on the Sundays.
That would be the most watch golf event of all time.
Like legit around the world would be the most watch golf event of all time.
Just think it's so weird that we're in a position where people are like defending a tour.
You know, that's like I'm world we're living.
I know.
It's just so strange.
People wearing like Rob Lowe type fucking PGA tour hats.
Yeah.
It's just like I love this tour.
No one's like the English Premier League.
Oh, I'm the English Premier League fan.
And the other person's like, oh, I'm, I'm bundes league.
Like, it's just a very weird thing to have an allegiance to.
They've made it that way.
Yeah.
Everyone.
I'm not saying Liv or PJs, but every, I mean, when you start saying, Phil's like, draw a line in the sand, pick a side.
Like, that's literally what they're saying.
You're right.
It's really just straight out of a Will Ferrell movie.
Like, oh, I'm ride or die for live.
And all me, I'm PG-Tor.
Like, that's why, when you ask a question, why are people taking up arms for a golf league?
It's because we are now framing it that way.
because the players themselves are.
Yeah, you're 100% right.
It's just been positioned that way.
How far are we away from a draft?
It's like live.
Not that far.
Live drafts their guys and PJ tour drafts their guys
and we're all just,
we're going to actual war for these guys.
It's just up to like,
how long can live go without making any money?
That's really the question.
If they could just keep going,
then this thing will not slow down.
I think they can just keep going.
I, you know,
there's no reason for it not.
to. They've got more money than God.
Like, why not just try to be a thorn in the side?
What was that number that that chap said?
I saw on their social media a couple weeks ago,
um,
on zero block dirty that like a Ramco or that,
that company said,
like 700 billion is the fund.
Yeah,
but they made like 45 billion in revenue in quarter three or something like that.
It was the most,
they made more than like Apple,
Microsoft and like Tesla combined in like one.
It was like all the biggest American companies.
Aramco made more than that in one quarter.
It was disgusting.
Well, that's the thing is I've tried to ask these of executives like, you know, do you guys have a runway where if you don't make money that you're going to eventually have to shut down?
They're like, yes, we're a business, just like every other business, we have to do it.
I just don't know if I believe them, because if the Saudis decide that the relationships that they make through golf and their relationship with Donald Trump and getting to play in the proem, if they decide that that's worth a couple billion every year, then you're right.
this could just be the new normal.
Yeah.
They can also put a plug in a second.
Net income rises
39% year over year to 42.4 billion.
In one quarter.
That's their net income.
Income.
They can afford.
They can afford to pay Ian Poulter, you know,
$15 million.
It's like a little problem.
They could lose $3 billion if they want over a year.
If they're making $40-something billion a quarter.
What is like,
what does three billion mean?
They're just going to make that up in a week.
You're 100% correct, Frankie.
That's just a RAM code too.
That's not even the entire font.
That's like,
that's their oil company.
All of it.
Every single dollar.
They own like a big piece of Twitter.
Let's not forget that.
And they opted not to shell their shares with Elon.
So now they're partners with Elon in that.
They got their money everywhere, man.
You got that much money.
It's going to be everywhere.
Yeah, that's true.
If that much money, what is money?
True.
How do they just have all that money?
hopefully that you would hope if you're right you don't think about like oh what's rent this month
you think about what sort of influence can we push on people with this right i always wonder that like
do how do country like do they just like wire money for like how do countries spend money what do you
mean i don't know like like like like like like like the like the like the like the yeah how the
government spent money on the military aid on the military oh well I just watched war dogs a couple weeks
ago that's how they spend money they've got all these defense contracts and if you know if jonah hill
and miles teller can get them this amount of grenades in a week they give them 10 million bucks or
whatever where is all that like is it gold where is all like what is the 45 billion that they have
each quarter where is that coming from is it just a made up number at this point because there's just
so much of it have we just made up how much money is
It's a real number.
Hmm.
I wonder.
Wonder about what, though?
Just like what it actually is.
It's just like what it actually is.
Like there's just gold where.
Where's the value?
Where's the value of the money?
Where is it held?
I don't know.
No one knows it.
You know what I mean?
Banks.
Banks?
What does that?
Banks hold money.
Where is like, where is the, where is they, so they have 45 billion
dollars in this in this quarter where is that 45 billion dollars value money where is that currently
like i understand it's a number in their system but like where's the value of that is it in gold
is it in i think it's in like currency it's in it's in but it has to like but like the numbers have to
have to have to be about something right it has to hold a value of something i think it's the
physical value for something so no i don't think there does that's like the gold standard there
doesn't have to be a physical thing about it's like the value is in that everyone agrees it has
value. So that's, that's what I mean. We've just gotten to the point where it's now reached. It's
just, we just accept it. That's how money works. Yeah. But I thought money always had a value of
something actual physical somewhere. It did. It was on the gold standard for a long time,
but then there was too much of it. It's no longer that anymore. It's no longer that. That's insane to me.
That's insane to me. That's insane to me. Yeah, it is crazy. I mean, it's a, that's literally why
crypto exists. People are like, that's a fucking banana system. We need to come up with something
better. That's crazy to me. This is essentially where it came from. This is something I'm now learning that,
Look, we've just gone beyond the threshold of it actually valuing to anything.
It's just the value that we've placed on it.
We just say this is what it's worth.
Yeah, I mean, somebody says to you, in order for me to sell this home to you, I need,
I need 900,000 United States dollars.
And you either pay that or you can't have this home.
And you're like, yep.
And then that's where the value of that money comes from.
Pretty much it.
Hmm.
It's a lot.
A lot to handle.
It's fucking good.
Yeah, it's crazy.
It's like, why don't we just come up with like, yeah, that's essentially people being like,
we should just come up with something different that like governments and everybody doesn't control it.
And they're, I think that's what crypto.
The whole world, we don't.
The whole world agreed that this Apple mouse was worth $10 billion.
Then that's what it's worth.
And then that's what's what's done cards are.
That's what fucking.
NFTs are.
Right.
Then it's over.
The Saudis are done.
Like your money is just nothing.
It's just a number now.
It's just that's it.
Well, we're all pretty tied up in this money.
That's really why they've got their fucking tentacles in so many different things that nobody could just box them out.
It's like they're everywhere.
They got fucking oil.
They got soccer teams.
We've gone too deep.
They got everything.
It's too deep.
There's no way out.
It's a wild world we've built.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How about like the U.S.?
We just borrow an outrageous amount of money and just pay for things.
And like for decades now we've been like, well, how are we going to pay that back?
And the next administration is just kind of.
borrow some of you're just going to keep right that's where that's something i've learned in my iPad readings
where they'll talk about um yeah they just pass this bill to give 360 billion dollars to this
and then you're like where does that come from and they're like we're borrowing it i'm like all right
well what the fuck does that mean and they're like just fucking don't worry about it's 360 billion dollars to
this it's like okay yeah sure and then like china owns a bunch of that debt and stuff and people
are like well that's not good that we're indebted to china trillions like if frank
he's like indebted to cross-country mortgage, you're like, that's good. I like those guys.
But we're like, well, that's like not great that they've bought up all of our debt.
Because someday we got to pay them back. And all this shit is going on. And again, we're voting about it today. And none of us know anything about it.
Wow. It's fucking great. What a golf show today. You know, that's the world. Do you know what's what four guys talk about sitting at a bar right now? This is what's going on in the fucking world. It's chaos. I'm not going to sit here in, like,
like fabricate what the actual world is.
I'm not going to sit here and talk about fucking myacoba for 15 minutes and 30 minutes
and 45 minutes.
We're not going to just start fucking making shit up.
This is what we're living in right now.
There's chaos happening.
We probably touched on so many different things that a lot of listeners do professionally
all the time.
And we touched on it for like eight seconds.
And they're like, oh, I do that literally eight hours a day, five days a week.
Every fucking week.
I clock it.
I clock out.
That's what I do.
And then we just moved on to something else.
We're like, yeah, yeah, that's how it works.
We're also so wrong about 95% of it's all.
Everything we said.
Like I don't think I said, I don't think I said one thing on this show that I actually think is.
You can like go to bat for.
Yeah.
There's anyone out there listening that's like, huh, I really learned something from those guys today.
Well, I know that Emma always tells me that whenever we talk about the law on our show,
we are just horrendously wrong every time.
She's like, you guys should have me on because you guys are terrible and know nothing.
I really don't.
I'm not, I don't have a college.
We don't care, Emma.
You're not coming on.
We don't care.
I don't have any of these things.
These things that people have that prove that they're smart, I don't have any of them.
It's all made up.
Yeah, Riggs and I.
Riggs and I are embarrassed of the letters next to our name.
That's not what I'm saying.
I'm saying that you guys have proof that you saw something through.
What letters do you have next to your name?
I actually have a BS, which is disgusting.
I have a Bachelor of Science, which is crazy.
That journalism was a Bachelor of Science.
You probably have a B.A.
I would guess Riggs.
Yeah, B.A.
Yeah, there you go. Had to look at it.
I don't have anything on my anywhere.
Bachelor of Arts.
I'm a, yep, I have a Bachelor of Arts degree.
Sounds like it's from Harry Potter, Hogwarts.
I agree.
And pretty much was.
Right. Harvard is Hogwarts, by the way.
Yeah, basically.
Yeah, 100%.
No, Yale, when I walked around Yale, Yale is fucking Harvard is Hogwarts.
That feels Harvard.
Yeah, their, their campus is very Hogwartsy, much more.
There's one, there's like a dining hall
you eat in as a freshman at Harvard
That is very, very Hogwartsy
But the rest of it's you're just kind of in like
A town in Boston basically is what it feels like
All right video games
I'm back I got an Xbox the S series
It's way faster me and Bush were texting about it this weekend
Way faster than the last Xbox I used
And I'm playing 2K
I can't get over how
Obviously realistic the game is
It's great looks amazing, great
The course options blow me away
The fact that I was able to just go play Cabot Cliffs again this weekend, which my favorite
course ever played ever anywhere.
I'm sending pictures to my friends that went on the trip with me when I went in 2019 with my buddies,
sending pictures from the golf course being like, look where I'm at.
They're like, holy fuck, you're at Cabot.
It's just, and you can do that with anything.
You've got so many fucking golf courses on this game.
Yep.
And they have so many licensed golf courses that, you know, a lot of people love to make sure
that it's exactly the way it is when they play tournament play.
You've got the 3M tournament.
You've got that at TPC Twin Cities, which is an amazing.
place to play for us because we actually played in that proam and then now to be able to play that
in the video game you remember every single shot it is so dialed into like the houses to the right
side of the fucking tebox that brock nelson hit it into he hit it into the backyard of these t-boxes
you can see the exact houses and the siding that they have on those houses it's exactly the same
2k is an incredible game divot derby's been so much fun we've had about 900 people on the stream the
other night at like one o'clock in the morning playing divot derby what i do is they don't have
big rooms that you can all get in so when you play on divot derby on pGA tour two k 23 you play divot derby and
you get like five regular players and then they'll fill it out with like 15 computer guys what i do is
i tell everyone at like 603 eastern time we are all hitting ready to go on divot derby at that
exact second when you look on the on your clock and it and it hits 12 you got to go and we get 20
out of 20 every single time. It's so much fun. We get 20 humans playing as 20 humans and who can get
the ball in fastest on that hole. It's so electric. I don't sleep until I get a victory. So make sure
you follow on the stream. We're all going to be streaming. We got to get you guys. I don't know if
Alex hooked you guys up with capture cards or whatever that system's going to be. But we need to make
sure we get you guys hooked up completely. No, I don't have a capture card. Yeah. See, Alex, our resident
nerd has to get you guys all nerded up when it comes to the stream stuff or else we're not going to be able to do it.
So we'll get nerded up for it.
Yeah.
2K's phenomenal.
I love that you can play with Tiger,
Kyle Morkawa, Zalotaurus,
Steph Curry, all kinds of big names.
You'll be able to play with us pretty soon because we went and we got scanned,
85 cameras,
every angle,
every facial expression you could possibly make.
They've got it.
They've captured it.
They're going to put it into video game characters that you're going to be able to
access very shortly.
So go check it out.
2K by PGA Tour 2K23 today at PGATor.2K.com.
That's PGATor 2K23, more golf, more game.
I was just in Boston.
Boston might be the best city in the country.
Boston's fantastic.
Braves thrown out to or what?
No, there were no bras this time, but it was a little bit...
Those titty's tight now?
The front page...
How is the front page?
The front row was a little bit further back from the stage than usual.
Okay.
That was a huge show.
Yeah, and chicks in the office, shout out to Ria and Fran.
They sold out a thousand seat House of Blues in Boston in 10 minutes.
How did that feel?
It was a huge show.
I saw that you walked out and everyone started.
screaming your name like this i mean you've probably had that experience before but is are you just feeling
like a fucking rock star in that moment uh it's cool it's definitely very cool i i will say nothing matches
the from the first time that you do it like the first time i was so nervous and lurch was there
in boston at it was a bar i believe called net device and there and there were like 180 people in the
crowd which is is a lot but like not it's not a thousand people at the house of blues and the first time
was like that was the craziest thing that's ever happened it's still insane and it's a lot of
fun. Those shows are a lot of fun to do. But there's nothing like that first time we were like,
why are these? Why? Like I tweet about The Bachelor. I do these Bachelor recaps. Like it's fun. I love
doing it and I'm glad people like it. But I didn't think it would motivate a response like that.
So it's a little hard. It is cool too that there's an there's an air of humor about it. Like when you go
out there. It's like people are going nuts and also you have a like you're pulling of like luggage.
Like it's just there's a very, it's cool and it's very real and it's also funny at the same time.
It's not overly serious.
Which I think is a good place to live in terms of like being a content creator.
Like I don't ever want to go out there or like before I go out there be like, where's my luggage?
Where is it?
Where is the luggage I'm taking out there?
Like it's, it's, I just sit in the green room and I'm like, oh yeah, I'm going to take this luggage out there.
It's going to be preposterous.
It's a lot of fun.
It's something I never would have expected when I took this job.
But that's the beauty of it.
Trent get some pop.
You get serious pop when you roll out.
It's crazy pop.
Totally.
It's cool, man.
That's,
I appreciate them.
Let me do it honestly.
Like,
I just,
I should,
the thing is,
is they do a whole show.
Like,
they do an hour and a half show.
And they plan it and they talk about it.
Like,
what topics are we going to do?
And then I show up for 10 minutes and I'm like,
hey,
it's,
it's the easiest thing in the world.
Right.
It's crazy.
And I get to go to awesome places like Boston and Nashville and all these cool places.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
I've got something to say
The Godfather is the greatest movie of all time
Be careful on that branch
Sounds like you watched it this weekend
No, I just, I've been watching The Offer
Which is, it's like the behind the scenes
Like it's a TV show on Paramount Plus
I think I talked about this last week
Miles Teller, right?
Miles Teller, it's an amazing show
And it just got me back into the Godfather
You watch how they recreate it
The acting's amazing
Then you really
You watch the Godfather
after watching the offer and you're like,
it's the greatest movie of all time.
For like when it came out,
how just iconic it is,
the scenes,
the acting,
like what they went through to get this movie done.
It's perfect.
It's like the perfect story.
Family.
I've never seen it.
Oh my God.
It's just...
I think I've said that on the show before,
but yeah,
I've never seen it.
You have to sit down and just watch the Godfather.
You're going to be like,
holy fucking shit, man.
Al Pacino puts on maybe the best performance of all time.
I caught that reference.
That's when they asked him from his favorite scene, right?
And he's like,
I tweeted it last night.
You can't,
you can't pinpoint one scene in that movie.
Oh,
LeBron.
Yeah.
No,
because he lied again yesterday because he wore.
Yeah,
because unfortunately takeoff from the Migos was killed.
And so he was paying homage to him.
I think he wore the same suit when he,
like that takeoff had worn or like a suit that looked like the one.
And then afterwards,
someone asked him like,
what do the Migos,
you know,
mean to you and like,
what is it?
What,
you know,
what do you think about them?
And he said, yeah, when I was my first year with the Miami Heat in 2010, I was, I was listening to them and I was telling all the guys like, you guys got to listen to these guys. They're the next big thing in hip hop. And if you look at the Migos discography, they didn't put out their first mixtape until like 2011, 2012. So he just, LeBron lies for no reason. Like people love the Migos. The Migos make great music. You can just say, I love their music and it's an absolute tragedy that Takeoff was killed. Instead, LeBron has to lie.
unprovoked and say
I was the first person in the Miami Heat Lockroom in 2010
to listen to Migos
and I was telling Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosch
you got to listen to these guys
when they hadn't even put out a mixtape yet
so then everyone on Twitter
was actually a great way to end a Sunday night
people were going back through all the LeBron's lies
and my favorite one is the Godfather one
where this guy just says LeBron
you've been talking about how you watched
the godfiel book he'd been reading the book
well that was the Malcolm X biography
that he also did not read.
But then it was the Godfather trilogy.
He said that he watched it six times.
He watched the trilogy six times.
That's a lot of time.
And the guy just says,
he's like, yeah, can you just,
what's a scene that really spoke to you?
And LeBron's like, you know, there's just so many.
There's just so, so many.
And the guy doubles down and says,
yeah, but what's one that that spoke to you?
And he starts to be like, you pick one.
You, if you like to move,
you go ahead and pick one for me.
And it's like, the guy's like,
I don't know, man.
It's just, it's a movie that you said that you loved.
It's his favorite movie of all time.
Just pick a scene.
And LeBron's like,
uh,
the movies are like nine hours long.
I can't pick one.
It's so funny.
God.
That's incredible.
It makes me so uncomfortable.
I can't handle that.
So he hasn't seen it clearly.
Riggs hasn't seen it.
It's a good movie.
It's a very good movie.
Oh.
It's so good.
Yeah.
I,
I wanted to watch it.
I feel like it's something I need to be like the right.
Everything needs to be right.
This is the right time of year, though.
We got a little bit quiet.
You got to donate like a night and an afternoon, started at like, you know, four o'clock
and just died.
I think for this podcast, I think you got to watch it and then we can talk about it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'd like to stick.
That's an amazing thing you get to do.
You get to watch a Godfather for the first time.
Like everything's like, wow, what's going to happen?
Right.
Right.
But for what?
No, I know.
No, I know.
You're just lucky that you've gotten to this point without seeing it.
Even though you could have been living your whole life with all these like,
feelings and reference points and like all, you know, culture,
the godfather is a huge part of our culture.
Are you, do you know about the horse head?
No, he doesn't know anything, dude, which is insane.
He's got to watch the godfather.
He's got to watch the godfather.
Like, you've seen references to horse heads in pop culture for however long you've been
alive.
And you're like, that doesn't mean nothing to me.
Skipped right over it, baby.
Didn't know, yeah.
Nothing.
Dude, you got to watch, Trent, you got to watch the offer on Paramount Plus.
You'll really enjoy it.
It's amazing. It's an amazing recreation of just how they made this. And they took risks with like they had a young Al Pacino and like he has like Al Pacino's voice. You're like that's kind of weird. But then you listen to how Al Pacino talked when he was like a 20 year old, whatever young actor. And he sounded just like that guy. And they have a Frank Sinatra in there. And they have, they have a guy who legitimately plays Marlon Brando. It's like, wow, they're taking risks right now of trying to recreate the Godfather. And they fucking nail it, dude. They nail it.
What platform?
Paramount Plus.
Okay.
It's really good.
Miles Teller has this deep voice in it.
Talks like this.
It's fucking amazing.
Who does Miles Teller play?
He plays Al Ruddy, who is the producer.
Okay.
Really good.
By the way, the writer.
The writer.
Coming back out on Paramount.
The writer.
I'm behind on that.
Well, I'll let you watch it.
I'll let you watch.
I'll let you watch it.
Copilot?
Well, yeah, but I was going to say that,
Something happened like in our town in Bayshore right around here with the Godfather when it comes to like the writing.
I'm going to let you watch the offer and then we'll talk about it.
Okay.
I'm going to watch it.
I'm going to watch your Godfather at some point.
Yeah.
Do it.
It's really good.
I'm excited.
I'm very excited.
All right, boys.
You might have anything else?
Anybody?
What are we at?
I mean, I don't have anything.
I don't think I have a single thing else to say about anything.
I'm going to go to the island again.
tonight how'd that game against the blues go
you're just a regular season guy
look at you you're like all about
like the island blues you're like
the soon as we started the show you just start
burying like Alex Bush and it's like it's that's what sports are
why don't that's like what we're doing here it's like the whole thing
that's the whole sport is like the regular it's like what we're doing
it's like takes up seven months of our lives
I think I'm just going to sit around just not care until the playoffs
what am I a fucking idiot
I'm not saying not care but yeah it's a
It's just like what the sport is.
We buy tickets to games.
Like, it's like a huge rivalry game.
Like, it's like, that's what we do.
Like, we go there and we fucking support the team.
We get really excited.
Alex Bush literally went to a Jets Bills game yesterday.
I think he's going to see a win.
And he saw a loss.
Like I'm obviously going to.
He put his Instagram story as feels like a home game in here.
Right.
That's what I mean.
Dude, Alex is like a regular season game.
Did you delete that?
Did you delete that Instagram story or what did you do?
I'm not a coward.
Are you kidding me?
You kept it up there?
Of course.
If you wait until the play.
Like a whole loss.
Really get juiced up.
You've lost the whole season.
Everything's gone because then it's like you lose.
It's over and you might as well not be a fan.
Yeah.
And to be fair, those are the people we people make fun of.
When you're when you're like, oh, it's playoff time.
So now you get involved in the sport.
I'm not saying rigs.
I'm not saying that you do that.
But I am saying that the overall idea that you only root for a team when it's in the playoffs,
those are the people we make fun.
Not only root, but I'm just saying I'm not going to over,
I'm not going to overreact to a game in early November.
I don't think it's that big of a deal.
It is a big deal, though.
Graduations.
History shows that wherever you're at Thanksgiving, like 90% of the time, that's how the playoffs.
Yeah, I mean, the Blues were the last place team in the NHL in January in 2019, and they won the Stanley Cup.
So I'm just saying, for me and my team that won the Stanley Cup pretty recently, like, it didn't really matter where you were at at this point.
Outliers is a book I think you would like, Frankie.
Oh, yeah.
That's right.
You've told me that.
It's a good book.
Alex is going to have to really do some surgery on this audio today.
So I mean we have technology
I know I know I just feel it's been
I've been looking at my levels to my left
And it's been a nightmare
All right
You're looking at your levels while you're talking
That's gotta be a nightmare
I always do it yeah just keep I have
I mean you guys wouldn't believe I got screens
Look can I do this
I don't even know how it shows how many fuck I can't
It's not big enough
I got screens all over the place
I got a screen there I got a screen there I got a screen there
I got a screen up there
I got so many fucking screens
What are using for
cheating on the dozen.
Yeah.
What else?
Yeah, that's what they thought.
People just think we're so...
When we aren't very dumb, but...
When we stream, I have to have the Xbox on one.
I have the stream on the other.
I have the comments on another so we can talk to the live people.
And then up top, I got the TV going so I can watch whatever sports is on.
It's an amazing setup.
There is a nice setup.
Yeah, the dozen, man. Fuck. Whatever.
It's a good performance.
I mean, we tied.
we basically, if the questions were equally,
we beat the defending champion.
So I feel that's a pretty good launching.
Right.
Tough to argue.
You know.
Oh, we didn't get the fucking chapstick one.
Carmex?
Yellow tube, red top.
Chapstick?
No, I didn't.
That's a hard question.
That is a hard one.
I said Blistex.
Yeah.
Everyone was thought it was Bert's bees.
Yeah.
If you don't know what we've been talking about this whole time,
you got to go watch.
No,
didn't get it you got to go watch the fucking dozen the geography one killed us that sucked killed
us right all of a sudden glennie knew everything about florida he loves florida he knew
Orlando st petersburg and something else and he just knew exactly north to south what those were
all right all right everybody um we'll be back per usual on thursday um go by uh christmas
butter hit it hard yeah hard right hit hard hit hard hit hard hit hard hit hard hit hard
