Fore Play - "I'll Have Another" with Colin Montgomerie

Episode Date: June 26, 2018

In one of our finer moments, we drink whiskey live on the show with Colin Montgomerie, and talk quite loosely about golf. We go deep into the one shot of Monty's career he'd like to have back most; the best courses in Scotland; Monty's greatest memory from his Ryder Cup dominance; his thoughts on Phil Mickelson and Shinnecock; his history with the fans. This is an enthralling ride with a man who's both one of the best Ryder Cuppers of all time and one of the greatest players to have never won a major championship. In "Headlines," we weigh in on Bryson's compass, on Korean sensation Hosung Choi's iconic golf swing, and Riggs reveals that he may no longer hate Bubba Watson. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. It's the boys. It's a huge episode we have on this week. Calla Montgomery, Monty, perhaps known as the greatest player to have never won a major championship. We get into all kinds of good stuff with Monty. We talk to them for 55 minutes. Is that right, Higgs?

That's right. 55 minutes. We ask him if you could have one shot back in your entire career. What would it be? He goes through excruciating detail about that shot. You got a little tipsy with him. I drank some whiskey with him, Lachloman whiskey. We are just crushing whiskey.

I mean, there's video of it out there. You're going to see in the interview that Monty and myself are just crushing whiskey talking about golf. I mean, 55 minutes of drinking whiskey with Monty and talking golf. It's going to get you a little tipsy. We went through courses in Scotland, some of his favorite courses, hidden gems, thoughts on the old course, all kinds of good stuff in there. We got to tell you, I got to tell you, about the fact that I got a new couch. Yeah? New couch in the apartment, the boys, Lurch, you guys know Lurch.

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Tigers had the three back surgeries. He's had one fusion. We welcome in from Barstool Sports. Riggs and Trent. Guys, welcome to the show. Foreplay, presented by Barstoolsports.com. We got the whole squad. Myself, Frank Ebrelli, the Pizza Maker, who is in one right now.

I'm a wreck. You know, you are in one right now. That's me. But I hope we eat this next hour so we can take your mind off of it. Because you've been talking about the Islanders and John Tavares all morning, and I feel like you are very stressed out. The only thing you've tweeted about. The only thing you've tweeted is John Tavar as Wills be an Islander next year. It's all you've tweeted. I know, I had no sleep last night. I haven't eaten all weekend. There was barbecues going on the houses. I just sat there. I just stared at a wall. I'm a different person right now. I'm a different person right now. I'm a different person. You guys are just making me laugh before the show. And I honestly feel like you're doing that on purpose because you guys think I feel like I'm sick. I feel like I'm sick. I feel like I'm like sick and you guys are just being nice to me. This is your make a wish we're entertaining you?

Yes. Like I just laughed and then I looked at you like, are you guys doing this on purpose? Were those like delirious laughs where you wouldn't have actually laughed that much, but since you're in such a weird mindset, you're trying to laugh at. I stared at Higgs's forehead for like five minutes before while you guys are talking. Just stared at them. Trying to like, just, I'm just dazing. I'm just like, I can't get it together.

But I'm hoping that halfway through this show, I'll be a different person. Okay. So it's crunch time for the islanders. We're going to take your mind off it. Frankie. We're going to talk about some golf. We've got to talk about the biggest story in golf this week by far. Hosung Choi. Unreal. This guy. How have we never heard of this before, is what I want to know.

I don't know, but they call him what, the fisherman's swing. The fishermen's. Oh, is that the name? They say it's the fisherman's swing. They call him the fisherman or something. This guy, South Korean guy, plays on the Asian tour. He is, no joke, by far. By far. the most electric professional golfer I've ever seen. Yeah, his T-shots and everything are obviously they're the main ticket item with this guy. But even they're showing one of his putts.

He hits like a 12-foot putt that breaks hard right to left. He hits it. It gets like six feet away from the hole. He spins in a circle, like trying to lean so hard to the left to get it to break left. And then it goes in and he fist bumps. He is awesome. This guy. So he's got the big leg kick.

It's kind of the Gary player, even Padrick Harrington, was doing it a little bit last year. We had him on the show, no big deal. But he does the leg kick with a, but it's not just a leg through. It's like a big swooping kick, especially when he hits the draw. Right-handed player tries to move the ball right to left. So he does his whole body just swoops through and he like launches himself left with all kinds of crazy body. He's in the fucking, fairway bunkers.

He's in the rough and he's like falling down the hill. He's doing it with sandwiches. It reminds me whenever Japanese baseball players come over to the MLB, reminds me of like Kosuke Fukubomé or Ichikikov, or each other. Where it's like, what a, what a callout. Do you guys remember Koske Fukuban? You remember Koske Fuku-Dome? I do.

I did. I do. Very smoothly. Like, that wasn't a problem. As if, like, Ichero wasn't the first name that everyone would pop up. The first name that I thought of when I saw this was Koske Fuku-Dome. It's because I'm a Cubs fan and that's the one that I remember. Holy shit.

Yeah, they step into the bucket and that's what he's doing except with a golf swing. And it is, it's something to be hold. It looks as though he learned how to play golf while people were shooting golf balls at him. So he would hit the ball and have to, like, evade. a ball. Because if you watch his follow-through, he literally... I have a feeling that somehow, some way, one of his... Like, we all know Tiger Woods had

crazy training growing up. We all know he went through ridiculous, you know, sets of, like, training exercises to be able to hit the golf. Well, I honestly think that whoever trained... How do you say his name? It's Hosung Choi. Hoi-sung Choi. They just, like, either shot guns at him or just like threw things at him after he hit. And he's, like,

matricing around it the whole time. And he's matricing around. Yeah. It does remind you of, like, old Westerns when they just shoot at the guy's feet. And they got to dance around a bunch. That's what he looks like. His swing, you know how Tiger had that slow motion commercial? Yeah. And it's like the famous.

Right. It's like Beethoven playing in the background. We have to do this for this guy. And it's got to be real slow motion. And then right when he gets to the top, you got to like just burst into like an electric like slide or something. I think we will. I think you're right. That's absolutely we have to do.

Especially that that part three. That's like the best one where the part three where there's the water. It's like a little Iowan looking green. He's aiming out of this fucking guy's aiming like 30 yards right of the green. And then he just hits. this swooping draw jumps left does like he's got like the reverse C going on with his body. He ends up

with his back to where he was originally at. Like that's insanity. Look at this thing. This guy, if you saw this guy at a wedding, he's going to fuck your girl for other dance for him. Oh, yeah. He's got the confidence. He's got the moves. Oh, yeah. You got to hope he doesn't show up. Now, if you see this guy on the golf course, let's say we're all

out of a nice municipal golf course. You know, we're just out with the boys and you see this guy on the T-box. There's no chance you think he's a professional golfer. No. You're like, I'll bet you, let's do an asshole, pal. I'm going to dust this guy with this way. I thought it was a guy from a proam. I thought it was like the agent toward proam and people were like, yeah, there were cameras rolling and we captured this guy.

I looked. When I first saw, he was leading the golf tournament. Right? He was almost got it in the British Open. Yeah, they were like two spots get in. He's, you know, to the British Open. And he was leading the golf tournament. I was like, what?

Because they, then they showed the best part was the first clip. The first clip that I saw that I actually looked at and studied, it was like minus 10 in the top. left corner. And I was like, what do you mean minus 10? Like, what is that? Look at this guy. It was mine. I was like, that thing is minus 10. He was unreal. And then you're right, that one, the driver and all that, you can understand a little bit, sure. But the one, it was like an 80-yard wedge shot. And he's got the hole, the swoop through the jump. You're like, what is he doing? Lanz it to like 10 feet, makes the putt. I mean, he's awesome. We saw DJ hit, technically a walk-off couple weeks ago. This guy hitting a walk-off shot would honestly be a walk-off.

He'd already be halfway through his follow-through by the time the ball's at the top of its flight. And when that thing comes down, I mean, we need that. We need him to hit a walk-off shot more than anything. This is a huge exhibit for all the boring tour pros out there on the PGA tour right now. That if you just learn something, I don't know anything about this guy. I still don't know anything about him outside of his action. He's like my favorite player in the world.

I came back from, I was at a wedding. It was like, we have to be home by 11. We went back to the hotel and I made them put Golf Channel on a while. I didn't watch any of the Travelers' Championships I'm at this wedding and playing golf or whatever. This guy is like, I have to watch this guy play golf. He came on and started swinging the whole place. I mean, it was all the after party for the wedding. People are on the floor laughing at this guy.

He's got people buzzing, man. It's crazy. If you're like a Nick Watney or somebody, like some kind of like boring, normal, you look like everybody else, cookie cutter, PGA tour pro, you got to develop a move like this. You've got to develop a move like this. Oh, and the endorsements are probably coming through the roof. Imagine getting his logo on a polo? This guy gets in the Britishobin. we will have a Barstool logo on him.

Oh, my God. He has. We have. He's the 554th ranked player in the world I'm looking at right now. Oh, he's awesome. He needs an exemption for every tournament. I want him in everyone. We probably haven't gotten any quotes yet, but I wonder how the other players feel about him. Maybe just because he hasn't really mixed it in with them.

Or like the other, yeah, I know our guy Brandl commented on it. So, I mean, people are talking about it. It's one of the rare occasions where all of golf Twitter were excited about it. Like nobody, I don't know, I can't speak for the players, obviously, but everybody on Twitter was like, this is the best thing we've seen all. all weekend. God, he's awesome. I hope he makes him the British Open so bad. They got to give him. Just give him an exemption. We'll talk to the USGA, too. He'll be in the U.S. Open next year, for sure. It's not a problem. So it's obviously summertime. It's hot.

Yes, it is. Very hot. We also live in the middle of the city, New York City. So it's very stagnant. You get, you know, when you're just sitting around, you're still and it's super warm out. You just generally get uncomfortable clothes making uncomfortable. Yes, they do. It feels worse this summer, too. I don't know why. New York, I don't remember being this. Maybe I was excited because I just moved here last year. Yeah. But this year, I'm like, it is unbearable.

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Yeah, that was an alarming blog. He is, I can't, I'm trying to dislike him when I watch the golf coverage, and I can't. The way that he shapes the ball. I think the top tracer, I got a note from a guy that works at Topgolf, by the way, and I've been calling it Pro Tracer, and he said it's called Top Tracer now because we bought it. So anyway, I'm trying to call it top tracer. Is that across the board, any tournament we watch? That's a good question.

I didn't ask all details. just happened on Instagram like two minutes ago. But very official. Yeah. I think Top Tracer has completely changed my view of Bubba Watson. Watching him hit the ball is awesome. It's just awesome. No, but we've never, the argument has never been, I don't like the way he plays golf.

It's the way it's everything else that he does. The way he handles himself off the course, some of the things that he does to his caddy on the course, we've all always said the way he plays golf, and we originally said this where it's like he should have every fan in the world. He shapes the ball. His name's Bubba. hits it a million miles, but it's just all of the other things that drive me nuts. But there's a point where a guy can reach where what happens and what he does on the course

trumps everything else, and it separates it from everything else. Tiger Woods is an excellent example. People talk about Tiger. It doesn't tip all the time. He's kind of a dickhead off the course. He whines. He throws his clubs and all that. We fucking love Tiger Woods more than anything in the world.

I'm not saying above as Tiger Woods, but I'm saying is clearly there's a point that one can get to where it's like what I'm seeing inside the ropes is just, I just like that. Have you forgotten about how much he cries? No, I know all of that. Okay. I went back and watched... Seems like you forgot. As I was writing the blog, I went back and watched YouTube videos to remind myself

why I hated him so much. And then I also watched the top tracer and the highlights and all that. And my feeling, I sat down, I let myself breathe for a couple minutes. And my feeling was, I like Bubba Watson. Man, I couldn't even watch him celebrate. Even when he did his little fist bumps, I couldn't watch it. I loved it. He's also doing this little thing now where he keeps hinting at retirement.

like make a decision. He did it again last night. That's my guy Bubba. He's just, you know. I hate that. He's just a little, you never know what you get again. He's unpredictable. He was an assistant captain of the rider cup and he's bawling his eyes out.

He's emotional, tread. Well, you're not an emotional guy. I am an emotional guy, but he is, he's crying for America. He's so happy that his American buddies won. He's the type of cry where he cries so much that the crying no longer means anything. Yeah, he's a little. He floods the market. He saturates the market with his tears.

No pun intended. I can't throw his shirt. that I cried at the Tonight Show because of the theatrics of it all. But I mean, Frankie literally cried when what Jimmy Fallon came on the stage? Burner account Jimmy. But I'm just saying you've really you've really turned around on Bubba here and I don't know why. Because, look, last year when he was playing the fucking carnival balls, the Volvix, with all the different colors there are like neon fire truck yellow and orange and all these crazy ball balls.

They have like no dimples on them. Right. They're just like rocks. He's playing colorful rocks. You're a frontrun. You're a front. That's what we're learning. No, what I'm saying is I, winning wins me over. And now he's won three times.

And the way that he does it, watching him play the game is so much more fun than watching other guys play. Like watching Paul Casey play is boring as fuck. It's fun to watch him choke, though. It's great watching him. We really choked yesterday. Even like Patrick Cantlay and like these other guys, they're just like, they're boring to watch. I genuinely don't. When they cut to Bubba Watson, I'm like, I got to watch this.

This is going to be great. He's hitting these crazy cut the crazy follow through. his form looks like he's just some clown on the range and like he's just swinging away like happy Gilmore and then he's obviously ripping it with these massive cuts massive draws hitting the ball low hitting the ball high he's chipping in from everywhere his hands are crazy yesterday hit that little bump and run that he hold out for birdie that i mean just seeing all these different shots i was like holy shit i love watching the guy and i couldn't help it i didn't like i didn't sit there and like choose to like him i just was like okay how do i feel right now riggs i feel like

I like this guy. I feel like I love watching him play. He'll really back into the hate. All it'll take is one Twitter video where he says you're welcome and you're just going to chuck your phone across the fucking room. Probably. I mean there's definitely a chance. It'll come right before like a major and you're going to be like I hope this guy misses every cut for the rest of his life. Look, there's definitely a chance of that. And I will

say too, I like, when he popped up he was like live on Instagram or something last night after he won and I just turned it off real quick because I didn't, I was like trying to basically censor myself from stuff that'll be negative about him now. because I would just hate watching him, like, sit there and take the trophy. I don't think I would like that.

But I love him inside the ropes. I just love him. I can't help it. He's so awesome to watch. And I was going back through for the last four or five years and just rewatching clips and drives that he was hitting. Holy shit, guys, a magician. No, we know. We've always said that.

We've always said we like the way he plays golf, just not everything else. No, I don't love everything else either, but I'm saying if I had to come to an overall conclusion about the guy, I'm at a point now where I don't hate bubble watch. Sad. Sad, you hate to see it. Do you see where Bryson D. Shamboa? Credit to me for being able to. Oh, thank you for bringing that up.

That motherfucker. Can we, yes. The compass? Here's the thing. And it's funny that you're bringing out above him. And I still hate Bryson, but it's getting to the point with Bryson where he is an asshole. He is. This is.

But it's the narratives are fun to watch. Like him bringing out a compass. He brought out a compass. A compass and protractor. We're playing golf. Hey, Columbus. Like, fucking relax. No.

Let me, let me do the other side of this first because I know you're going to, you're going to bury him. It's, I think. he did it on purpose. You know how a guy Pat McAfee does hashtag for the brand? I think Bryson D. Chambo is like, everybody looks at me like this mad scientist. Everybody knows I approach a game with like analytics and all this. I'm going to pull out a fucking compass on the green

so everybody knows that I'm actually the mad scientist. Like he is, to his credit, he's owning his brand. No, the worst part about him is that he has no idea what his brand is and that he's doing this because he's a colossal asshole. He is such a fucking loser. If I am seeing,

I don't know how no one's hit him on the golf course. playing against him. I don't know how. If I faced him, I would be so angry golfing against this guy. I'd be like, look at this fucking guy pulling out a compass as we're reading the group. So we know what is the theory behind the compass?

It's like the perfect amount. He probably has every single spot on the green perfectly traced out. And wherever the pin was, he probably compassed it from the location that he hit it during the practice range, practice rounds to the day

that the pin was put in. And he's probably seeing exactly how far it is from his fucking calculated mileage on the golf course. It is important to note that he made the put. So it would be a real asshole if he did that, the compass move and missed the putt. He made the putt. I mean, Riggs, what do you think you're right now? I feel like you're about, like, how can you think anything other than this guy's an asshole?

I'm so just intrigued by the guy. I mean, a guy pulls out a compass on it. Like, you're, okay, let's say you're, you know, you come up to the first green. You're playing a two-on-two match with a couple guys you never met before. You get up to the green. Guys got, like, a 12-footer for par to, like, to win the hole or whatever. And the guy's like looking aloud, reading it, he's got his body, and then he pulls out a compass. I think I'd be like, this guy knows something, I don't know.

Here's what he said. I'd go up and I'd smack it out of his hand. Here's what Bracin D. Chambot said with the company. He said, the pin locations are a little bit off every once in a while, so I'm making sure they're in the right exact spot. So he's looking at the pin locations and being like, eh, they might not have got these right. So I'm going to pull out my compass and make sure they get them exactly right. Was he going to, like, pull out a flag and be like, Help, like someone move this pin because it's not in the spot that you guys promised me.

I would love if he did that. Are you a Bryson DeCambeau? No, I'm not. But there's something to be said for someone. He's worse than Bubba Watson. Because so people. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, Bobba Watson's awesome.

He. That's true. Trent is who's worse. Who's worse to watch with all this? Aside from actually striking the golf ball. Well, it's Bryceon because he doesn't have, he's not as exciting to watch as Bubba is. He doesn't have the other side of it. No, no, no.

I'm saying just everything. everything aside from hitting the golf ball all this shit that they do like the hat he wears he looks like the dinosaur from a land before time everything is true see remember that you guys were kind of giving me shit and then people started tweeting well no because you were

I said he looked like a dinosaur because you explained it horrifically the dinosaur from the land before time is very different than an actual dinosaur but the dinosaur from the land before time is the type of dinosaur I was talking about I was talking about a real life one so in your head you were probably picturing like Jurassic Park correct I was picturing like that little

I was thinking Jurassic Park T-Rex run and I was picturing the little circular purple guy. Right. Huge difference. Yeah, okay. It's Bryson. He's an asshole. He is.

I know everything. I know his families are assholes. Everything about him. The way he was, the way he approaches the game of golf as an asshole. The people around him are assholes for telling him he can do these things. Did he have a protractor in his back pocket? Where did he pull that protractor out from?

I mean, I just a protractor guy. The compass. The compass. He just a compass. The compass, yeah. I mean, he's just a compasses. He just has compasses. Like, does he use compasses for other things?

things in his life? Do you think the PJ tour is going to outlaw compasses? They are investigating it. That was the headline today. They're investigating whether or not he was allowed to use the compass or not. My thing with this is that... A compass. You and I talk about... Because I hate Ian Polter, like actual hate. Like, I want all the worst things in the world to happen to him. I want him to lose his tour card. I want him to go broke. I wanted his family

in the poor house. But you said that you liked that he continued with his narrative that he knew what he was and he kept giving us things to hate him about. That's kind of how I feel about Bryson now. He's the mad scientist. He pulls out compasses. He's just such a character of himself that I can't hate. So you think he's disingenuine? I don't know.

Well, you keep saying that he's just doing it to, like, further his character, not to, like, actually see where the pin is supposed to be. Maybe he's not doing it to further his character, but he's so into what he is that it's hard to hate because he's just really, even if it's not on purpose, he is what he is all the time. And he's just got a compass in his back pocket. I think it's impressive if he's made it this far in his career without having, he doesn't have any sort of feel.

He does not have in his bag or in his bag of tricks, like just the feel factor of golf. Everything is calculated. Oh, no. Every punt, every chip, every eye. He has the feel. He doesn't, like, use it, right? He, like, he executes the feel, but he doesn't, like, he doesn't just walk up and

is like, this is the shot, I'm just going to hit it. Right? He does, like, careful study calculation and then hit it. So, like, it's just, but it's still feel that it takes to hit the put that far. Like, right? That's feel. I guess so. He owns and dominates that feel.

You don't win, like, the Memorial and the U.S. Amateur and stuff without, like, having really good feet. Yeah, I guess. That's another thing. He has to walk up to a green, read it, and put it. Like, he's got, he needs to bring out a compass, and he needs to, like, see exactly how far he has to hit it. It's not, I mean, it's just different. Yeah, but I guess, like, he's trying to eliminate any guesswork, right? Like, you're standing over a 12-foot putt, and you're like, does it break six inches or eight inches?

That's, that could be the difference. In your brain, like, you're kind of like, eh, feels maybe like eight or something. He's like, no, no, I know. I know that's what it breaks because X, Y, and Z, which might be a fucking compass and a map. Crazy. And all kinds of other stuff. Literally no golfer ever has had to do that. Ever.

It's very annoying, I think. It's slow and all that. Like you said, he won the memorial, so it works. Like, it'd be one thing if it was working. He's going to make so much money. Where are his fellow players, like, thinking about this as a guy who's matched up with them doesn't need a compass or everything to be mathematically? Yeah, but those guys, that's not the only guy that's doing more, like, using more, like, using more

analytical stuff. They have those green charts and stuff now on the greens that people are using like the charted greens to read stuff. They're doing the, what is it, the aim point thing where they do the fucking fingers and all that. Like, guys are doing calculated things on the green besides just walking up, kneeling behind the put, going, eh, it looks like about a cup

and hitting it. Like guys are doing that shit. He's obviously a little bit more extreme, but it's not like everyone else is going in five seconds off of pure feel and he's the only guy using weird shit. Like other guys are doing weird shit. So, I don't know. It's, it's tricky. It'll be interesting to see. He's going to be very rich. He's like a top 10 machine.

Yes. That's the thing. It works. If it works, then fuck it. Who cares? He wins here and there, and he's going to be a top 10 machine. And he's going to be up his swing changes. So it's always consistent that he's going to be able to do this for 25 years. He's going to have a cooch. Just make bazillions of dollars and be in the top 10 every fucking week or top 20 or whatever. They're going to keep talking about him because he's kind of like a weird kind of, you know, Brainiac kid. We got tigers back this week. It's the Quicken Loans National little teaser. We've got Armin Coutain on next week's show, which will be our Fourth of July week show,

which will be, that'll be what, the second? The third. The third of July. Our show with Armine Cotayan is one of the co-authors with Jeff Benedict of Tiger Woods, the new biography on Tiger that came out this year. I've been deep in it. I'm over halfway through it now. It's like a 500-page book or whatever.

A phenomenal read, if you're a, you're a good. into Tiger at all. It's really a phenomenal read if you're just for anybody. It's very, very, very interesting, compelling. The amount of information that they got is wild. Tiger won't be off your mind forever after reading this book. I think about them all the time now. I'm getting in arguments.

I was at a barbecue this weekend. I gotten just a screaming match with someone over who was the best scoffer of all time Tiger Woods or Jack Nicholas. I mean, it was people had to push us apart. It was bad. The book will change your life. The book changed my life. it's all I think about

I mean right now is John Tavares and New York Islanders but every other day it's just Tiger Woods his life his story how I mean I felt like something was taken away from me because I was just a little bit too young to realize I mean like 1999 2000 was like the best year of golf of all time and I was like six so like obviously I didn't know what the fuck was going on

now like reading back like can you imagine watching golf every weekend and a guy winning just 14 tournaments in a row what are we talking about this podcast would just be every week she's like Tiger Woods won Tiger Woods won Tiger Woods won. When I went through the year 2000 and just going through that and then talking about everything and all that he was doing. And it's crazy because you've read the, you know, that's a couple hundred pages into the book when you get to 2000 when he wins the U.S. Open by 15. He wins the British Open at St. Andrews by 8.

He wins in the playoff against Bombay at Valhalla, the PGA. And then he goes on to win the Masters in 2001. And at that point in the book, you've read 200 pages of hype and like, you know what I mean? And you're like, and then he did that. You're like, holy fuck. Jesus Christ. So we have Army Gatay on for, God, almost an hour, 45 minutes. We talked to him.

Great talk. All his thoughts, you know, what it was like research in the book. He's an incredibly renowned, well-renowned journalist, television journalist, author, all of that, as is his co-authors. So Tiger's back this week. First start since missing the cut at the U.S. Open. It'll be interesting to see. It's down the Quicken Lones, National. I don't know.

I mean, he doesn't have really any history at this golf course because it's not at congressional anymore. I don't know what to expect. I have no idea what to expect. But Tiger's back. We got a lot of chatter with him next week. I think that's pretty much all I've got. I think we hammered most of the main points. We're getting into midsummer here.

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one of the great players of his generation. Obviously a ton of accolades. You have 31 European Tour wins, which is fourth all time, I believe, the most for any British player. An unbelievable Rider Cup record, arguably the greatest Rider Cup player of all time. We got a lot of things to get into, but welcome. You are in studio. First Impressions of the Office. Busy.

It's very busy, which is, hey, isn't that a great thing? You know, there's a, you know, I mean, you say you've run out of space, which is, which is super. You know, most, most companies have space, space beyond their needs. You guys don't. So it's super to find an office that is cramming out, you know, and you need more space. So, fantastic. I will say you came on the right day. The air conditioning is working today.

Okay, okay, great. Well, I'm glad it is. Yesterday. We don't have air conditioning in Scotland. We just open the windows, okay? And then it gets a bit colder. So that's fine. So I'm glad the AC is working.

Yep. It's a bit of a madhouse. now the AC is working which is huge you mentioned Scotland you're obviously a Scottish guy I am let's start with some Scottish golf talk what is your you know I went over last year this is probably the most maybe the most interaction we've ever gotten from one of our podcasts I went to Scotland kind of a last minute trip I went to St Andrews came back talked all about it people asked me questions nonstop so I'd like to ask you what is your favorite course or the best course in Scotland best course in Scotland it's a it's a it's a it's a difficult

because it's all opinions, isn't it? You know, if I say one, someone or say another or whatever. Right. But emotionally, I suppose, iconically unique would be St. Andrews, wouldn't it? You know, you've got to, any golfer has to really try the best and opportunity if it arises is play the home of golf. And that's St. Andrews. That's number one. And then you go on from there.

You go to the, obviously, the open venue spring to mind, you know, your Turnbury, or should I say Trump, Turmbry to use its proper name, excuse me. Very proper. I like it. Yep. Yes, very proper, Mr President. And then you go on to, you know, Turnbury, Trune on the West Coast, and then you go inland, the Eagles is lovely. Locke Lomond itself is beautiful inland course.

And then you go to the east side, and you have Canustim Mewfield, St Andrews, but other hidden gems like your King's Barnes, like your Castle Stewart, like your North Berwick. So it's all a matter of opinion. You know, there's a number of great courses, and hopefully we look after you when you, when you come over? It was the, you know, the coolest golf trip, you know, I've ever been on. I went on alone, I went over alone over the Labor Day weekend last year. Okay, great, great.

You know, I met a couple random people that happened to follow our stuff and I played the old course. We're all random, really, in Scotland. We are random. That's right. You guys were very random. Random. Incredibly random.

What is, if someone's in St. Andrews, what's the number one pub that they have to go to? Very good. There's a place called the Denvegan, which is just opposite octalone. golf shop which has been there since Tom Morris's days. There's a Dunvegan pub that I went to with my caddy just after round once. In there's your vice president, Dan Quayle was having a beer, and we sat down with him and talked golf. He was a very good golfer at the time.

I think he was played off three at the time. Nice guy, really nice guy, and talked about, obviously, politics and talked about golf. It was super. So the Dunvegan is a super place that I'd recommend in St. Andrews. I was in there. I think I went there three days in a row. Oh, really? Okay, okay.

Well, there you go. It lived up to the hype. I will say that. The vibe there, it's one of those places, too. You know, we did the full caddy experience, and then we go in there and, you know, all the the caddies that we had. Two times I played it were in there having beers, buying us beers and all that. So it's an incredibly fun experience.

Is there a better first tee shot in golf than the old course? I don't think so. I don't think so. There's a number of great first tea golf shots. Of course there are, you know, but when you think about Pebble Beach is hidden in the trees, a wee bit. You've got the classic North East Seaboard courses, you know, where we're talking here in

New York, but you've got the winged foot congressional and stuff. It doesn't really, but St. Andrews, that's got a win, hasn't it? With the clubhouse behind you, with the old gin and tonic brigade, the RNA brigade behind watching, hoping you don't take a divot out of their fancy first tea.

And yeah, it is unique, obviously, it's 110 yards wide. It's the widest fairway in golf. And yet you've got to hit it, haven't you? You do. You've got to hit it. It doesn't matter how wide it is, you've got to hit it. And the expectation is high.

And it's just brilliant. The whole scene, you're walking off the first two, you think, right, I'm on. I'm here. I'm at the old course. I'm playing the old course. There's a lot of old courses around the world, but that's the only real one. That's it. And you go off and then five hours later, or it should be quicker, but it's not.

Five hours later, you come back in, and you cross that swelkin, bridge and you play that last hole and the second shot into the last and you're on the green putting and yeah it does get emotional it does yeah there's a definite romance about it and and uniqueness about it because you're playing back into the town right i mean golf courses don't finish in towns but this definitely it's in the shops it's in the carpet you know it it's unique in every way and it gets so much you know i was stunned i had a beautiful day the first time i played it and we you know we turned and played back into the wind on the back nine Yes.

And I guess, you know, for whatever reason, you know, you always think of 17 and 18 and the first T and the views and all of that. But what you don't realize is that at any moment on the front nine, if you just turn around, you can see the town. And you realize that when you start, you know, after you go through the loop, when you start the back nine stretch, the town just gets bigger and bigger and closer and closer. It's almost like an intimidating crawl towards the town. It is. It is. You're talking very professionally here, the loop. Oh, only the locals talk about the loop.

Enderson and Andrews, that's just very good. The amount of very impressed. The amount of things that I read on this. This is good. You're impressing him early. This is good. To be honest with you. Things might go off the rails at any time, so it's good to impress him early.

To be honest with you, Colin, I was deep in the YouTube hole when I was watching, I believe you and Patrick Harrington, who we also had on the show, were sort of debating the best opening teas. And he was making the case for the first tea at the old course. And you were like, it's 150 yard wide. But it is intimidating because it's like anything in sport or anything. life if you're expected to do it like hit the fairway at the first

at St. Andrews, it's more difficult to achieve. It's like a number one team playing a number 30 team or whatever in any sport expected to win. Well, go on, do it. You know, it's sometimes hard. Right. And the World Cup is proving that already, just starting the World Cup soccer. A number of the fancy teams haven't won. Germany, number one team in the world,

they've just lost to Mexico, number 30 in the world. It's weird. You know, we just had today there what Japan beat Columbia, well, that shouldn't happen either. So there's a number of upsets happening, and its expectation is probably too great. And that's what it is at St Andrews, expectation of hitting the first fairway. And it's not you hit the first fairway,

it's the people watching. There's always people milling around that area of the first tea in their last green. There's always people just walking down from the town and there's here you are. Oh, God, come across you. Let's see what you got. Yeah, exactly.

Well, you obviously incredibly, experience, you've played in opens everywhere, majors everywhere, you've played the old course probably countless times at this point. Does that ever, does that nervousness, excitement, whatever on the first tee at the old course, is that ever wear off? No, it doesn't. It doesn't. Not as a Scottish professional, no. And we'll have that again coming up. The Rolex Senior Open is there. The week after Carnusti, the open, and every player, 156 competitors will feel something on the first tee, definitely. And also walking over the bridge. You cannot walk over that bridge in the last hole, the Swilken Bridge, over the Swilken Burn.

A burn is a stream to you guys. A stream, folks. A stream, folks. Did you know that? Did you know that? I did, but I didn't want to show off my knowledge. I mean, you know everything. I'm not talking to you.

I know. I know very little. But it is unique, and you walk over that burn and you think, okay, everybody from Arnold Palmer onwards has walked over this burn. And it is special. I mean, everybody stops and takes a picture on that particular burn, and why not? You know, it's one of the most photographed, it is the most photographed clubhouse in the world. And from that, from that burn, you get a fantastic picture of the R&A clubhouse, which is our home of golf, and we're very proud of it. Yeah, yeah, I would say that has to be the single most iconic spot, you know, Swoken Bridge and all of golf.

And shout out to me, I buried the 18th hole there, so. Okay. Okay. So I knew that was coming, didn't you? Yes, I did. Well, you're kind of... Me, me, me, you know. The whole point of this interview is that he can talk about his Scotland trip and brag about it.

It's all really about him, isn't it? All the time. There were all... Should we now change this and ask him questions? Or, no, no, should we... He would like that too much. No, he'd like it too much, wouldn't he would. There were a lot of things we could have led with this interview.

There's a reason I led with, like, the old course. I started talking about that. Yeah, yeah, because you birded the last. I told Trent... And you hold from how far? I had like 10 feet. Ten feet. Ten feet. But...

So me, it was like driver four. I'm just kidding. A hole's 300 a yacht. It was a driver flick three weeks ago. Now it's a four-hour. And it was a tapping, but now it's a 10-footer. That's right. It keeps getting more distance.

It's like catching a fish. I told Trent, I couldn't believe they didn't bring out the Eclare jug when I made the product. I mean, come on now. They should have had a big celebration. It was stunning. So St. Andrews is, of course, the big ticket item. But what is an underrated spot or trip region of Scotland? and that folks should look into if they're going to go over outside of St. Andrews.

Okay, very good. I'd stick to the east coast. I'd go south of Edinburgh to an area called East Lothian, which is where Mulefield is. And there's two great courses just there. One's Archerfield and one's the Renaissance course. And then just down from there, you've got a hidden gem, the west course at North Berwick, and also Dumbar just down the coast further. So that would be a real hidden gem trip.

You've got four or five great courses there. Don't have to play Muirfield. Man, you never get on Meal Field. It's not trying to go on to Bind Valley or... Which is rare over there because a lot of the courses are accessible. It is rare, yes. A lot of courses you can get on to. There's more opportunity.

We have 600 courses in Scotland and most per capita of anywhere in the world. There's only four and a half million of us. There used to be more. It's the only population that's decreasing. It's a worry. What's going on? I don't know. It's a worry.

It's definitely a worry. It's a real world. It's a real world. It must be the weather. Nobody wants to go there. Obviously no one wants to be born there. Never mind anything else. So we've got 600 courses and an opportunity is given.

There's a golf course around every corner. So we all play golf, you know. So but Murefield is a one-off where it's very private, a la Augusta Pine Valley, Cypress Point, Seminole type of thing, you know, that are very difficult to, you just can't turn up and I've got some money. I want to play, you know? So, but the courses around the area are very good. And also where they're playing the Scottish Open this year,

Gullen, number one, two, and three, there's three courses there are also very, very good. So that area called East Lothian, just south of Edinburgh, is one that I would pick. Mark that down, folks. You can birdie the last on all of those courses. And then we'll bring you back, and he'll brag about it on the podcast.

Well, if I don't burdy last, we just won't talk about it, so it's not a problem at all. So we've got the Open at Karnusti this year. We have. what is it that makes Carnusti, you know, revered as maybe the most difficult Rhoda venue? Very good. I think Carnusti doesn't have a bad hole, doesn't have a weakness. It's not one of these courses where you can relax, you know, with all respect,

you can relax at the first hole at St Andrews and as long as you hit your second shot far enough at the first. You can make a four, you know? Canusti starts out with a difficult par four and keeps going until the very, very end. until you've got the last four holes, which are criminal, really. You know, they're as tough as any. So, well, not as tough as any, they are the toughest. I reckon Canusti's two shots harder than any other open venue per round. It is the best by a country mile, in my opinion.

It is a fantastic venue, and it's great that here we are promoting Loch Lomond Whiskeys, starting off at the iconic Canusti, which is the toughest course of all? What a professional segue that was. So we are going to get into some current events, your thoughts on the current game, but I want to talk about this. I mean, you guys brought these boxes, this boxed whiskey. You've got to tell us about this, and we're going to try it live on the podcast. Okay, so forget the box.

It's what's in it that counts. But look at the box. The boxes are good. Look at this box here on the right there. Your box, especially done for the open. It's the first box that's ever been done with golf teas and clubs and pitch foot repairers and all sorts of great looking box. And I think a lot of people are drawn to that, whether you're buying it duty-free or whether you're buying it a shop. I think presentation is most important.

And as it says at the front there, the open, and it says the spirit of the open. And of course, a double meaning, the spirit of the open. And I think that to be associated with Lachloman Whiskeys is a real honour for myself. And this is our first year, first year of five and hopefully more. And I think it's been a great success so far. Whiskey and golf are our two great exports in the world. And we're very proud to showcase it here, you know, to come over here in New York and America. And you're a third.

You're a third great export. Well, thank you very much. Today I am because I flew over yesterday. So I've exported myself. You have. Just for the show. Just for the show. We appreciate that.

It's very nice of you. So there's three of us here today. Lockelo-Lum and Whiskey's myself and, of course, golf. But fantastic, superb to be associated with such a great brand. And a young brand in many ways in America, but of course over 200 years old at home. That's young for us. That is young for you. That's very young for us.

So look, if Colin Montgomery comes walking into my office with his own whiskey, the spirit of the open, we have to try it. What we do, don't we? Should we do that now? I think we should do it live on the show. Come on, look. And even the cap of the bottle is very well done. It looks. I'll be honest.

It's the open claret jug. I'm very excited. Right, here we are. This doesn't really take the edge off. The second half of this interview might be. Yeah, you could go anywhere. Could go anywhere. Right, forgive me.

Someone should help me here. Not often a Scott finds it difficult to open a bottle of whiskey, but there you go. Open it is. I'll start with you first. Now that should do you because I worry about you. Okay. Yep. So that should do you.

That's about a single. Okay. Okay. Don't need to overdo things. And I'll do the same because I'm not driving around New York. Yep. I'll leave that for the professionals. Okay.

And that's actually a bit of a double. I'll have to top you off a bit. There you should make it a triple. There you go. It's the elite in the day. So here we go. All right, my friend, cheers. Good to see you.

Good to see you. Trent? Cheers, brother. To Lockelo-Loman whiskeys. Here we are. Baby. See what I mean? That is nice.

It's pretty good. It's okay, isn't it? More than okay. here all afternoon, my friend. That's okay. Look at that. Well, we just keep talking. I mean, I mean, the bottle's still, still too full, you know, so we'll just, we'll keep talking, that's right. Ooh, that is delicious. Yeah, that's smooth. I like it. It's got a, it's got a taste that hits the palate a few seconds after and stays there. It's lovely, isn't it? It is. It's still there, and now I'm just ready to roll at this point. So, anyway, you guys keep talking amongst

yourselves, and I'll just keep drinking, and we'll fine. That'd be great. Perfect. Perfect. That's easy for us. We can do that. All right, everybody out there. It's summertime. You're going on a lot of trips. You're doing a lot of cool stuff. You're playing a lot of golf. So you probably want to save some money.

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Shinnock. We, of course, had all the controversy about the course in 2004. There was some more controversy about the course in 2018, especially on Saturday with a couple of pin locations. Yes. thoughts on the player of complaints 13 15 did they lose the course what do you think there's a few questions all in there isn't there you know i must admit you know after 2004 which was a ridiculous having to water the greens between the groups to keep it going and the first few groups through the seventh hole all made six at a par three i mean it was it was it was a

calamitous affair surely you would have thought i mean without being disrespectful to the usj who you know, who are great for the game of golf, and don't get me wrong. They're our close friend, too. Yes. Surely, I mean, you'd have thought they would have learned from the mistakes that were obviously made in 2004. Yep. Here we are, here we are 14 years later, and similar mistakes were made again.

You know, the course on Saturday, the forecast didn't change, so there was no excuse there. They knew it was windy. They knew it was warm. They knew the greens would dry out. So why did they put the pins, and you're talking about 13, 15, and you're talking about 13, 15 in particular, why did they put those pins in, well, eventually impossible places? And it caused controversy, and it was a huge controversy.

One particular person will come to, but others felt the same, you know, that the ball was coming up to the hole and almost coming back to the back, backwards. Why not put 13 and 15, which are severe greens anyway, knowing the courses I do, put them in the flat pit and get on with it, you know? The USJs seem to have this thought that level par should win the national championship. So therefore, instead of minus 20, which I sometimes feel that people have said that sometimes U.S. tour events are too easy. So you get 20 underwinning. And I tend to agree with that in certain ways.

But the U.S. Open goes too far the other way. And to keep it at level par nowadays, to keep that score at level par with the standards of golf improving every year, therefore the course has to be, it's unfair to say, tricked up, but it has to be on the edge to keep the scores at level par. There's nothing wrong with winning at 10 over, 10 under, excuse me, which means, yes, it's still the toughest test, because it's not 20 under like a normal tour event, but it's fair. And that's what the players want to play. They want to play fair. They want to have the good shots rewarded and the bad shots penalized. They don't want the good shots penalized. And that's what was happening on Saturday.

Yeah. And so, you know, our counter, I guess, or my question would be, you know, if that is the goal, right? If that is their goal and that's the identity of the championship, the United States Open, to be golf's ultimate test, the toughest test this year. The big buzzword was carnage and all of that. Yes, yes. lot of what the championship wants. Yes. Is the big, I guess, complaint or gripe that, you know, someone like you might have

that it played significantly harder in the afternoon than in the morning? That would be a gripe. That would be gripe with the weather not really changing. Yes, okay. If the wind suddenly picks up to 30 miles an hour and the rain comes in, okay, you've got unlucky. But the weather forecast was set in the morning. It was set throughout the day. It didn't change.

so they knew what was going to happen. So therefore should have set up the course accordingly. And that unfortunately didn't happen. And that's what Mike Davis wrote to the players on the Saturday evening Sunday morning and said, look, I'm sorry regarding Saturday evening. And then Sunday, we got a great day's play Sunday. We did. We got a super days play Sunday because the course was set up, hey, somebody shot 63 or credit to them.

If someone's going to score 63, fantastic score. But that was the best score. I think Ricky Fowler shot 65, fine. But there was very few others. You know, I mean, the winner, the winner shot, what, 68? Yep. Well, that's not, that's not 62. I mean, you know, and he won the thing.

So the course was set up properly on Sunday. It just wasn't. I'm not on about the course itself. The course is great. It was just the set up on Saturday, which was wrong, unfortunately. So, you know. Excuse me while I have another. look, I'm also going to have another...

Excuse me, excuse me, please, because this is just too good. No, you're very... Excuse me, just take a time out, last, okay. Can't be that, can you? That's good. That's good. That's good. Sorry, sorry, uh, listeners.

It are. We just have whatever we break there for some more whiskey. You should go out and grab some whiskey listeners and you can join us. Absolutely. Fine endeavor that we're on. Um, so, you know, I guess what we would say is that, yes, the golf, the, the golf was fantastic on Sunday what was presented with the course, But we also, when you look at it, I mean, Sandy Tatum in 1974 was responding to player complaints by saying, you know, we're not trying to embarrass the best players.

We're trying to identify them. It's been that long, 44 years at least that controversy has been a main part of the U.S. Open. It has. So, in our opinion, I mean, that is the tournament. If players aren't complaining about the course from our viewer standpoint, the USGA isn't doing their job. So what I, you know, what we said is. Yes. Well, there is that argument.

Yes. But surely, surely they don't want. they don't want annual controversy. I mean, I mean, the rules infringement to Oakmont. We had the broccoli greens at Chambers Bay. I mean, that course really shouldn't have been played on. They should have changed venue when they realized the greens weren't suitable.

For a course in the 21st century. And then you get this one, Aaron Hills, wasn't a great success. It was just a big field, really, you know, that was set up for the bombers. This one had its controversy. Of course it did now. My big worry is we're going to pebble-be.

next year? Surely. Surely America's iconic course here. Surely we can't... This up. Surely we can't mess this up. How can you... You can't mess Pebble Beach up? Surely not. I mean, let's hope that we get back to a tournament that is a championship, excuse me,

where is talking about the golf and not the course. You know? I mean, of course we'll talk about Pebble Beach as a course because it's dramatic, iconic and unique and all these things. But let's hope we're not talking about the setup of the course on any of the days, and let's talk about the great shots that are coming in and the birdies that are made. Phil Mickelson drew a lot of headlines with his actions on the 13th screen on Saturday. Just a few.

I haven't heard. Nothing? Sorry, sorry, what was this? What was this? Quick reaction on the whole incident, on the fallout. A lot of people are outraged. Some people almost were saying, what about the children? people were losing their minds a little bit in the golf world, which I will tell you that we have mocked those taking it overly serious, but we will allow you to give your thoughts on the action.

There are two opinions, one one that don't, the mocking, the mocking of the incident, I think, comes from non-golfers and non-golfers that don't know the etiquette of the game. The older generation, which I'm included now since I'm over 50, I know that's difficult for you. to see, you know, but I am. The younger generation will think, well, what's the problem there? But the older generation would think, hang in a minute, there's an etiquette to this game. And unfortunately, that etiquette was broken by Phil. And I know Phil very well. I know Phil very well.

He's a good friend of mine. Our lockers in championships were together because our names are very similar in the alphabet, so we're together in championships. He always used to call me Chris. I don't know. He got the first letter right, but the rest of it was wrong. Close enough. Close enough. I just called him Frank, and we got on with it.

And it was, it was, you know, it was a weird scenario where you saw him hit the putt. And then, I mean, literally start running. He did. He jogged right over to it. I mean, he ran over to it. And it was, yes, it was funny at the time. But then, unfortunately, what he, to me, the worst thing about it was that

in his interview with Curtis Strange afterwards the premeditated version of it came out and that was the thing that got us all by saying oh actually God he meant it I mean if he'd said to us all look I lost my head I wasn't prepared to go down the hill again and embarrass myself

so I just stopped it hit it yes I know I think it's a two shot penalty I'm not sure but but find me whatever it is sorry move on. Sorry, everybody. I mean, you can understand that was a crazy pin position. The USGA, get on with it. And it would have been, I think it would have been dropped a lot more than to try to justify his actions as to stopping the ball for purposes to use the rules to his advantage. That was the main issue, really, to try and justify it. So, you know, it's made the headlines.

Let's hope for Phil's sake, because we love Phil. everybody loves Phil let's hope for his sake and for the USGA and for us and everything that it's that it that it finishes almost as quickly as he took to hit it you know what I mean let's hope it dies a death yeah and I um I agree with you I think you know the the action itself um I think when you when you marry that with his um his interview and he obviously had five holes in an hour and a half to think about exactly what he wanted to say yes that was my point he he could have thought now can I can I sort of just nullify this

or do I want to make this into a huge story and then he tripled down on it and on 13 the next day celebrated after he made the pot. Yes yes he was over the top on when he hold one on 13 he went over the top really running with it yeah so it was all a little bit well to say controversial was was was was light I mean I don't know how

I don't know how you guys feel that's how I feel as a professional that the etiquette of the game the spirit of the game wasn't wasn't taken the way it should have been. Would you say that? Or are you in the younger view? Because I'm sitting here with two young guys here. Would you say that, hey, come on. What's the big deal?

He hit a moving ball. I would say, and we talked a little bit on our show last week, where it's like we were definitely stunned when it first happened. But the reaction of how over the top some people were, he had mentioned the people think of the children and this tarnish his Phil's legacy in some way. I think you can swing too far in the other direction. I think you're being very rational in your reaction to it how there's an etiquette and people should perform a certain way.

But there's the other people who are taking it a little too far in saying that this is going to affect Phil and the way people view him for the rest of his career. Right. Okay. I don't think. Let's hope. Let's hope it's not. Yeah. And let's hope, yes, I'm sure he went home and it regretted it.

Definitely. Yeah, I think so. I'm sure he does. He got him regretted and we all regret things we've done. Hell, who's perfect out here, you know? For goodness sake. Not us. You know?

Well, I know. You can't understand that. I can understand that. You and I are okay. We're pretty good. You're pretty good. I'm not even close. You were pretty good, but this guy, no, no, no.

So. I'll just drink some more whiskey. Yeah, please. Oh, well, if you're doing it, I'm joining. Let's do it. Joining you. Thank you. Excuse me, listeners, please.

We're just having another drink of Lockloaded whiskey. Hold on a minute. Excuse us. It's delicious. It's actually very good, isn't it? God, so good. That is good. Did you send Phil?

Well, text or anything being like, hey, come on. I didn't. I didn't. No, no. We can text her if you want to give us his number. I have his number. Let's get a few more whiskeys in, yeah, and we'll just call. Just call them up.

Get that bottle halfway down. I'll be. That move on 13, pal. What were we thinking there? I'm sure a few of his colleagues have texted him or emailed him or sent him, sent him vibes. But at the same time, let's hope it's, let's. Let's hope it diminishes as quickly as it came, you know, and let's hope so. And let's hope it doesn't diminish Phil Mickelson's career or his legacy,

because his career and legacy have been one of the greats in the game, second only really to Tiger Woods in modern times. So let's hope that it doesn't affect his career that way, and he can move on from it. But no more, you know. I mean, my view is what do we do here? We all know the 15th Augusta's severe, and he goes big at 15 at Augusta, and you've got to chip back in the pin, and you're a bit heavy-handed with it,

and you're, oh, my God, it's going to the water. Well, I tell you what, if I can run. How fast are you, Colin? My ball would go in the water, because I wouldn't catch up with it. But some players could catch up with it and stop it. Now, and then if it stopped by the hole, you could judge it where it, well, you know it's good in the water, and you saw Sergio how it doesn't take it. much to go in. So as it's near in the hole, tap it in. Now there's a, there's a, there's a,

no, it's actually a four, two shot penalty, six. Well, that's better than having it go in the water and having to go around the pond again in front of 15 and have another shot. We're not going to make six because you're playing your fifth shot already and you're going to get up, you know, you're struggling. So let's hope, let's hope that they might well, they might well, the USGA and the RNA might get together, and they might all change that rule. Yeah. Where if you intentionally intentionally move

the ball for gain, for your own gain, then I think the rules of golf should change accordingly. I will say next year of the Masters, if someone hits their wed shot into 15 and then runs up and taps it in as it's going by the whole movie, they should give them the green jack.

Even if it's on Thursday, just stop the tournament. Amazing. Bring out the green jacket. You have to have a bit of, you know what, for that to happen. But it opens up, it's a precedent, isn't it? It opens up all sorts of scenario that we don't really want to see. Right.

So you've had your own interactions, engagements with the fans over the years. I have. I have. There's been a lot of talk about the boisterous crowds. Rory's commented on it. Justin Thomas had somebody kicked out of the Honda Classic for it. Are the crowds more boisterouser? now than they were in your day?

Oh, very much so. Very much so, yes. I think, you know, over the years, I think it was building and building. And the Ryder Cup is where we saw it more than most, especially when we came over here to the states, whereby my first was 91, which was called the war, the war. I mean, my God, were allies for God's sake, you know? The war. The war on the shore, wasn't it? The war on the shore at Kiwer Island.

Yeah. called. War is aggressive. War is pretty aggressive. Pretty very aggressive. 95 was building and then 99 was quite bad at Brookline. And then in a very negative way

but a positive way for the golf circuit and the golf fans and all sports fans, you know, in that time, after 1999, 9-11 occurred in 2001 and it brought everybody together

more and more. I think people here in New York there was less honking of horns in New York people let people out the streets everyone was kinder to each other and respected each other more and more they knew we were allies and I think that helped in the golf sense

in my own game putting it into my own game that it quietened down a wee bit it definitely did the 2002 Rider Cup was quiet four was quiet six wasn't boisterous it was more delight in Ireland

and it's building up again a wee bit but nothing like it was and the players are playing together more and more now and they know each other it's just it's just the odd minority that wrecks it for the majority you know there's always the guy that wants to

hear his own voice and be on screen and wants to get a Hollywood position for screaming or whatever it might be and and he tends to ruin it for the majority of fans they are few and far between, but it does, every shots that's hit, you don't want to hear mashed potatoes or get in the hole or something. It is a bit, it is a bit silly, you know, so let's hope we can, we can evict these guys

or whatever you do with these guys, because they're not really, they're not really golf fans as such. What's the most outrageous thing you've ever heard from the gallery? Oh, well, that's unreputable on air. Not on this air. Oh, yes. This air is the wildest. No, no, no, no, even this air.

Believe me. Even this air. This was bad. This was a word that's never said. And happened to me, I was playing the late Payne Stewart, actually, in the 1999 Rider Cup singles at Brookline. And on the 9th T, happened to have Prince Andrew there. The Queen's son was watching.

He was an avid golfer. And my father and brother, and they all seemed to walk off at the same time that had enough. And that was the worst I've ever heard. But, but yeah, you know, we were winning. America hadn't lost at home for a long time. And we were winning. And, yeah, you know, we didn't understand. The one thing that we didn't respect to the Americans is they wanted,

they couldn't afford to lose this Rider Cup three times in a row. And they'd never, ever done that. You know, we won it in four. We won it in, we won it in, we won it in, No, we won it in four, six. No, hang on it, no, no, no, I'm off. We won it in 95, won at 97, excuse me. And this was 99 to win it three times in a row.

We'd never done it before. And what we didn't realize was the Americans didn't want that to happen. And they all credit to every player that played that day, they played fantastic golf with a huge patriotic support. And we weren't ready for it. And it was our fault in many ways that we weren't ready for it. If you expect something to happen, you're fine. It's the unexpected that you don't want to, want to happen, and that's what happened

there in 99. But it's changed, as I say, it's changed since, and it's got better. It's just, it's just louder now, and especially in the afternoons, you know, the sun and the heat and the odd drink doesn't help them. Yep. The reaction on the 17th green there, the Puts, the Leonard putt, there's a lot of controversy over the reaction. What are your thoughts today on kind of the the, you know, the whole team storm in the green, when I believe it was Olothabal who still had to put? Yes. Well, you might not know this.

I was on the fairway behind with Payne Stewart. We were all square and watching Justin Leonard and Jose Maria Olothabal play the 17th hole. Knowing the scores, knowing the scoreboard as Payne and I were watching because it was getting extremely close. And I was in the left-hand semi-set. Payne was on the fairway. And we watched this putt go in from Justin Leonard. And he was first a pot because we were watching them.

So he was obviously first a putt. We hadn't seen a Lazzable putt, so it was Justin's first putt and he hold it. And of course, everybody went nuts, ran on the green. It was all over. It was done. Pain immediately looked across to me and I looked at him and he said, have we miscalculated here? Because to me, a Lazzable's got a pot for a half.

Right. And this match isn't, this match, I mean, the whole Rider Cup has not finished yet. And I remember walking over to him because we couldn't play for 10 minutes. The green was covered. And we were talking together and I said to him, I said, this is, this is wrong. What's happened here? Now, to a lot of people were saying the Americans shouldn't have done that and disrespect and all the etiquette and stuff. But a lot of people had BBC headphones, like the ones I'm wearing here, but smaller.

And it was a radio station, the BBC Radio 5 Live, do a wonderful job on the golf coverage. Any radio commentator would understand what I'm saying is trying to paint the picture of a golf tournament on radio is very much more difficult than it is on television. They do a fantastic job. They win our Sony Awards year in, year out. But on this occasion, they had the score wrong. Now, they had it that if, If Justin Leonard holds his put, the United States win the Riding Cup. So the fans, Payne and I didn't know, we didn't have earphones. We didn't have earphones in. The fans did.

A lot of the American wives did. A lot of the American team did. Ben Crenshaw did. So this was what caused this influx on the green, that they thought America had won the cup. When actually they hadn't, there were a shot out. So, yes, they shouldn't have run onto the green or whatever. But you can understand having lost the Rada Cup twice in a row, not having to win it coming back from 10-6 down,

no teams ever come down from 10-6 down before to win. They felt they'd won the Rada Cup. So you can understand it in many ways what had happened on that particular circumstance. I had never heard that tidbit before about the misinformation. That's very interesting. Yeah, I mean, the scores in these situations are vital. And it's always, it's always, you look at the scoreboard and you're coming up the last hole and I'm one ahead or I'm two ahead, right?

Say I'm two ahead. And you like me at two ahead. I am two ahead. You got a lot of joy out of that. Yeah, we'd love to be. So what I'm trying to say is a bogey would do. So you play for a boge, or not play for a bogey, but if you're going to make a bogey, make a bogey, you don't get any more money for winning about two or one. Right.

And then the scoreboard's wrong. changes everything. Changes everything. Right. So the scoreboard is vital to have that coming up the last hole especially. So the scoreboards are vital because we pay an awful lot attention to them. And I don't know what the guy's done three ahead. The scoreboard tells me what he's done and let's hope it's right.

But occasionally, once in a blue moon, and this was the blue moon, that it was wrong. Yeah. Yeah. So you were dominant in the Ryder Cup. You have, I believe, is it 29? and seven, I think, is that your overall record? Is it? Right.

Yes, something like that. Yes. 20 wins, nine losses and seven draws. Yes, 23 and a half. If you ever lost a singles match, is that correct? No. No, I didn't lose a singles match. I was fortunate.

Very fortunate that you put yourself up for a fall, you know, eight times, eight times, and from 91 through to 2006, and you, you know, the draw comes out, you know. and I remember the last one, 2006, my very last one, and I was very proud of my record. I know it's not an individual tournament at all, the Ryder Cup, but everybody knows your own singles record. Your singles record means a lot to you, because it's up to you.

You just know. Yeah, yeah, you know. So at that stage, I'd managed to have one five, and I halved twice, once again Scott Hoke and once again, Mark Kalkavakia. And Ian Wuznam wanted me to go first. in the in the draw now the way it's done is that we we as a team put our 12 names an envelope and america put their 12 names an envelope and then the chief referee opens the envelopes and one plays one two plays two three plays three so america were down 10 and a half five and a

half down so they needed early points there's no point putting their strength at the back because it could well have been over by then so they've got to plug their top players. And Ian Wuzanam knew this, and Tiger Woods was in the team, and he was playing well at the time, and he says, I'm going to put your number one, Monty. Now, I know your record in Rider Cup. He was the captain, by the way, Ian Wuznam, in Ireland. I know you reckon Rider Cup, but you know what this means, don't you? Odds on, you're going to get Tiger to play in the singles. I said, look, Ian, that's fine by me. I said, you know, we were friends, okay, now we're not. But we all thought that Tom Lehman was going to put Tiger out first,

which would have been appropriate, would have been right to do so, to get early points on the board for America. Was there only way to win it? Right. So the draw comes out, and it's a crackly phone. I've got one of these handheld things, and of course, they're both opened. Now, I know I'm number one on our team to go out first. I think Sergio was behind me,

and we had quite a strength in our top to counteract America's top. There's no point in giving them momentum. So it comes out and it said, and all I heard was Monty, because that's how I was put on the list. So it was Monty versus Tom. And I thought, Tom, Tom, hang on, Tom Lehman, he's the captain, hang on, they've got it wrong. They've got, they've put the captain in my spot because it's the top of the thing. You know, it's a bit odd and I didn't quite I said no no who am I playing I didn't you know but it was David

Tom's that I was playing as opposed to Tom Lehman who wasn't playing he was the non-playing captain and they put Tiger number four he actually played Robert Carlson and beat him so I was rather glad I didn't play Tiger

and kept my unbeaten record and managed to just stay one ahead of David Tom's you know who now plays alongside me on the Champions Tour so we have a great great, we have great fun out there. And it's interesting that champion's tour when you play, you know, Calquevec is out there, Scott Hoke, David Tombs is out there, the guys that, the guys that we played in singles in the

rider cup, there's always something with two guys that come together that have played in the singles in the rider cup. There's always something, and there'll always be something between the two of you. There's a certain friendship, and I must admit, it is a friendship between the two of you, and there's certain something that you'll keep for. Forever. When you've played someone in the in the Rider Cup singles, it stays with you forever. That's very cool. So what is your single proudest moment from the Rider Cup?

I suppose 2004 springs to mind at Oakland Hills in Detroit when we won. Bernard Langer was the captain. He'd picked me. It was my only time that I didn't qualify for the team, excuse me, on a regular basis. so I needed to pick. He picked myself and Luke Donald. On that occasion, Luke was a rookie in the time, 2004. And I wanted to give him something back. I really wanted to give him something back for picking me. So as it transpired, I was left with two puts to beat David Tom's, actually, again.

I believe I was playing in the singles. And I was left with a four, five footer, an opportunity arose, that fate arose, that this was the time that if this went in, this was the put to win the Riding Cup. This was to get us over the line. So you're talking about my proudest moment. That was it to hold that winning put in 2004, not for myself more than anything.

It was for the team. You're always playing for the team, but it was more for Bernard Langer, who had put his trust in me to pick me, and I was only lucky enough the timing was right to give something back to him by holding that winning put. That's great. Who was your favorite person to play with, your favorite partner in the Ryder Cup?

Oh, he was. Bernard. He was. Yeah. Yeah. He was so slow that eventually the American sort of just look, look, look, I'm going to give you a point here. I've had enough now. I need some lunch, you know?

And I was just riding on his coattails, you know. It's fantastic. I just thought, this was fantastic. I mean, they're all getting really cheesed off now, and I'm just thinking, thank you very much, Bernard. Play as slow as you can, buddy. I play as slow as you can. And that's what he does.

And that's what he does. But he was great. He was a fantastic competitor. And someone that I could still is. Someone that I could make a mess of a hole and he would clean it up for me. You know, whether it'd be holding a pot or chipping stiff or whatever, he was, he was brilliant. It was very strong mind. And the Ryder Cup's all about mind, how strong you are.

And he was brilliant as a, as a fellow competitor. We played, I think, seven, seven times together in the Ryder Cup. and we, I think, did we lose? I don't know. We did lose. I think six and a half out of seven we got, you know, which was a good effort. Yeah, yeah, you know, we were good together. We played a similar sort of game.

Obviously, mine was a bit quicker than his, but we played a similar game of Fairways and Greens. And especially in the four ball, we always gave ourselves two putts, which is key. We're both in the green, so one of us was going to hold a put. Yeah. That helps. It does. We need it. against the might of American.

Believe me. Sorry, another drink. Another drink. Do you mind if I pour some more? Oh, look at you. Well, you bring this, you know, this is very... It's not Coca-Cola, you know. This is to be...

I've noticed. This is to be enjoyed. All right, look at you. Oh, boy. Okay. Cheers again. My man, thank you. Look at this.

You can hear the click on the... Oh, yeah. Whiskey break. We're just a couple more steps away from that Mickelson phone call. I can feel it. Look at that. Super. Better get off the course, Phil.

We're calling. So we've talked, we've let you, you know, relive your Rider Cup, heroics against us, you know, we're Americans. Well, we apologize. No, no. We don't apologize. We just told what to do, you know. We respect you going out there and playing your best and beating our guys best.

That's all good and well. There's obviously, in golf, you don't, you know, you win or you lose a lot more than you actually win. You've had much heartbreak in your career. You've come very close at many major championships. You have won three senior majors. But of those, of that, you know, the illustrious career that you have had, what is the, if you could have one shot back, what would it be? Well, that's obvious. It's the second shot to winged foot at 18, you know.

My first shot, actually, my drive, won European shot of the month. Your drive there? Yeah, my drive. It was a great drive. Yeah, my second, third, fourth, fifth and sixth shots certainly didn't win anything. They were sent to the annals of what the hell happened there. Yeah. And I'm afraid I think I haven't kept the shot of the, yeah, you get a lovely crystal bowl for shot of the month.

I don't believe I kept that one particularly. I feel like it's smashed it somewhere. Yeah, that was the one major and it was the last time that I was in real contention. I mean, well, contention I was leading after 17 holes. I just hold a 40-footer at 17, left-to-right break for a birdie at 17 to go one-up. So four would have done it. And I hit the drive, the perfect position of the T-shot. And unfortunately, I was playing with Vijay Singh.

Not unfortunately I played with Vij-Sing, but Vijay Singh was my playing part. Unfortunately, he hit it left of left going left with a hook. The Phil shot. The Phil shot into the tents. and he took one drop to get out the first tent, a second dropped me out of the third ten, and all the stuff. So anyway, I was on the fairway about eight or nine minutes waiting for this to happen.

Now, I'm in a great belief that if I'd hit that in real time, that shot, without thinking about it too much, I'd have been okay. But, hey, circumstances prevailed that I wasn't able to, and waiting for your partner and respecting that, you know, I mean, I could have hit it. Could have hit it, I suppose. I was ready to.

When up to ball, I was ready. Alistair gave me the distance. My caddy, I was ready to hit it. And then hesitated because, of course, you have to wait for your playing part of the ruling and all the carry on that goes with it. So on the crowd are moving around. I'm not blaming that, but it was part of the issue.

And I just happened to catch it heavy. One of these things. You've got to play 72 holes, and I played 71. And it was the... It was the one that, the reason I said that, it was the one that of the five majors that I finished second in, it was the one that I felt was my fault. It was my fault.

There was no one else's fault. And not fault, but in the way that the two against Ernie, he won. Tiger Woods won. This was the one that I felt that I'd given away, and that's the one that hurts, you know? I don't mind being beaten. That's fine. Steve Elkinton

hold one off the back of the green at the PGA in the first hole of the playoff. I mean, come on, I was inside him, I was the favourite, no, that didn't happen. So you say,

okay, well played because he hurried, he birded the first hold. That was Riviera, right? That was Riviera. Tiger Woods, I wasn't catching him at St. Andrews,

but okay. Ernie else in the playoff at, at, where we'll be, Oatmont, and then again at Congressional beat me by a shot,

you say, okay, well played, Ernie. But when it happens, when you do it, yourself and you mess up yourself, that, that hurts and that's the one that hurts. Yeah. I believe you switch clubs there.

I did twice, three times. I think I went back and forth. Yeah. Seven, well, the wind was just switching a wee bit. It was a, it was a big, big seven for me in those days, 2006. We're talking 12 years ago. It was about 160, which was a big seven for me. Still is.

It's now, it's now you see the distances. It's now 160. Oh, this would be his gap wedge. It's amazing. And you think, what's going on here? This is ridiculous. What did he say? What did he say? Gap wedge?

Christ, that's a six-arm for me. And he was, you know, and I, all the trouble was short. All the trouble was short of that pin. I had to get big and I felt if I had struck the seven-iron properly, yes, it was enough. But I had to strike it properly. And it's my job and I should have done. And I didn't. And I caught it heavy.

But yeah, that's tremendous. nowadays, isn't it? You know, I mean, I think Tiger had a 190 to the back at the TPC there at the 18th hole, 190 to the pin, nine iron. And it went big. It went big. He had the audacity to hit it big. I mean, really, I mean, what's good on here?

You know, this is crazy. So we have, just to finish up, we took a couple Twitter questions from some folks. Okay, go on. A few folks asked, what was the best prank you ever pulled off on somebody? I'm not really much of a prankster to be honest people have pulled pranks on me but I've never done it the other way around What's the biggest prank? Someone's pulled off on you

Oh Yeah I mean it's it's it's easy You know you leave your bag outside your locker or something And the potter's missing You know Classic you know classic Silly things I've never really

Never really wanted to do the Because I know how it feels to me I'd think Hang in a minute You know you're really under a great deal of stress here. So I'm not really a prankster in that way. No, sorry to, sorry to poo-poo your good Twitter, but I'm sorry for that. It's okay. Twitter lets you down pretty frequently, so that's not uncommon. Another user asked, has the sweat dried from the 1994 U.S. Open playoff at Oakmont?

No. No, no, no, no, the sweat will never dry there. Now, that was another mistake, really, of mine, I suppose. You know, you're going out in a playoff. And all I had, I was sponsored by Pringle Clothing at the time, and the same as Nick Fowder, were the same management group. So we had the same clothing supplier. Mine obviously was slightly larger. And that was a joke. I liked it.

Oh, okay, good. Thank you. I just didn't want to disrupt your train of thought. With boisterous laugh. And what happened was that I had one shirt left. The others had all got huge salt marks on the back of them because the heat in 94 there. That was the famous week, O.J. Simpson was called. Big week.

Big week. Going down the highway. And he's in his white car. Bronco. That's right. Oh yeah. The famous way. A famous bonco with the L.A. police force following him down the road.

It was peculiar. So that was that week. And it was the hottest week ever. Anyone on tour still says that was the hottest we've ever played with. 94 in Oakmont was the hottest ever. So I'd run out of shirts. The only shirt I had left for the playoff was a sort of Blackwatch Tartan shirt. Hindsight, glorious hindsight.

This was my first real major in contention, although I'd been close in 92 at Pearl Beach. This was the first one that I'd really ended up. So we got to playoff, and I should have, should have really said to Pringle clothing, look, I'm sorry, I've got no shirts left. I'm going to the pro shop to buy a white shirt. It'll say Oakmont Country Club, I'm sorry.

But hey, if I win here, you know, I'll wear your shirts in bed, you know. so I should have done and glorious hindsight it should have done but it didn't help being a black shirt in a hundred and heat index was 109 or something all week it was ridiculous and we'd all had enough to be honest

and I'm so glad now that the USGA have decided to come into the modern times and have a playoff and it has to finish in Sunday that was one of the last playoffs the 18-hole playoff with Lauren Roberts, Ernie Els and Moselle And I mean, it was weird.

You turned up on Monday morning. The stands were being taken down. They've got to go somewhere else. So they've all been taken down. All the tents were been taken down because they've got bookings for the next week or whatever. There was no one interested in us having to play around for our careers in many ways. They were more interested in getting these chairs out to the next unit. It was weird.

There was disruption everywhere. There was banging going on, taking stuff down. So now I agree with everyone's in line now that every major finishes on a Sunday night and it should do, should do for everyone's sake. Last question. What is your favorite thing that the game of golf has given you or provided you in life? Apart from tasting scotch whiskey here with you today. Of course. That's, of course, number one.

Is that number one? Yes. So the next best thing. It has given me the ability to travel and travel. and travel to me is the best education in the world. I've learnt so much more than I ever could in a classroom travelling the world. Different cultures, different people, meeting different people,

playing this great game of golf and some fantastic venues, but travel has enabled me to do that, and I think a golf has enabled me to travel. So travel, I've seen every part of the world on numerous occasions, and I love the excitement of it. And even coming here from London, I mean, I've done this trip, God knows how many times London, New York. It's like a shuttle across the Atlantic, and yet you land in New York, and it's a special place. You know, it's a real special place. It has some connotation to it. And to be here today in New York has been a thrill. I've thoroughly enjoyed New York. It is a special, special place.

Well, Colin Montgomery, you are clearly a good man because you brought us a bunch of phenomenal whiskey and shared it with us. We much appreciate you're one of the great legends of your generation in the game, and we're big for you. We're big for you. fans. So thank you very much. We appreciate the time. Not at a toll. Thank you. The World Cup and Summer Golf has got me in the gambling game, in the gambling mood. I was all over the World Cup this weekend. I just, I hadn't watched it because we were out at Chinnecock the week before. So I was like, I got to start watching a World Cup and I was all in. I was just watching every single second of it. It's great too. You can throw it on during work. Just have it on one of your tabs at work. Soccer is a good background noise sport. Big time.

Like that's what I usually use it for. Saturday mornings toss it on and I'll just walk ground, maybe clean at my apartment a little bit, and it's just there. And if something gets intense, the crowd starts going wild. The announcer start getting really excited. It's great. You know what's even better is having a vested interest in this. That's why we love sports. Bettsi.com has been in business for over 20 years paying out winners.

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And even just, he was such a cool and enthusiastic guy that he was just, it was very cool to have him in the office. He played right along, gave us a little bit of shit. Yeah. You know, he mucked it up a little bit with the boys. He liked the office. He was like, what is this place? Love the office. He was like, when he walked in, he was like, what is going on here?

It can go either way. People, person can walk in and be like, this is great. I love how everything is so messy. Yeah. Or they can be like, this is a dump. And Monty was just all about it. No, he was all in on it. He thought it was very cool.

He embraced the whole thing. Like I said, he walked right into the studio with us. He sat right down. just started drinking whiskey with us live on the recording, as you heard. So we had a great time. It was a very surreal, very cool experience meeting somebody like Colin Montgomery that, you know, you've watched him. You've had moments, especially as like American golf fans, where you probably disliked

Collin Montgomery for a while. For sure. You're rooting heavily against him. I feel like in the last 10 or 15 years, he's, you know, as he's done more TV stuff and commentary type of stuff, and you've learned more about him, people have started to like him. After having him in the office, sitting right down next to him, drinking a much of Lachlopin. I was going to say, if you bring whiskey with you, you're going to be, people can be like,

all right, I like this. I love them. I mean, I love them now. We're best friends. So big thanks to Monty, Colin Montgomery for coming in, sitting down with the gang. A little teaser next week, like we mentioned earlier. We have Armin Ketian on the show. We have an in-depth discussion about Tiger Woods, everything about Tiger Woods, about their

biography, their very in-depth, nearly 500-page biography on Tiger Woods, how they got the information. Thoughts on the information, thoughts on Tiger, all kinds of good stuff. He's obviously playing this week, so it'll be an awesome time to get that interview up and running. Enjoy Tiger this week. It's the Quicken Lones. That's all I got. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

Against the best. This old road's been a hell of a test. I'm still driving. I ain't slowing down. There's rules I love to break and bend. Mistakes I've made again again. But I tell you this, my friends, I'm still around. I hit it hard, man

So far, man These ups and downs Somehow I just keep on playing through So all you critics pull up a chair At the winter circle soon I'll be there With a high five and a smile For you

These lawyers and strings Spending money like my ex-wives Sure I gamble and I drink And smoke three packs a day Ain't country music supposed to be this way it's from the hard man I hit it hard man

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