Fore Play - Imagine Tiger draping the green jacket over you, with PGA Tour winner Lanto Griffin

Episode Date: October 24, 2019

Lanto Griffin almost quit golf with under $200 to his name. A week and a half ago he became a PGA Tour winner. We discuss his journey, have some laughs, and even experience some emotions. We dream about what it'll be like playing in the Masters this spring. Plus, we breakdown the Asian swing (turns out there's A LOT of people in Asia), and Tiger's return and upcoming Presidents Cup picks!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We had a clap off. Trent Daddy is out sick, so he will not be on the show today. Trent always claps. You guys actually don't know that because it happens off the air, but Trent always claps, and then we laugh for a second, and then we start the show. And Trent wasn't here to clap, so we just sat here quietly. Then we had a debate between Frankie and Lurch about who's a better clapper.

Frankie has, will you have the famous pop when it comes? I generate pop. Yeah. With my claps and my daps. Here's a little inside the podcast world for all you listeners. The reason why we clap is so that when the editors and our producers are going back and editing the podcast, they can see a spike in the audio to show where it starts so that they don't have to listen to us like mumble, jumble, and it's a quick entry for them to edit. and then also to match up the video that they take for our promotions to match it up with our voice. So you match up the video to the clap.

It's an easy way of that. Did you just mess them up now because you clapped? Well, that was off, that was off camera. So you won't see a spike. That clap off the mic would be just as much as my speaking. But when you clap into the mic. I think you keep clapping there like. No, they won't.

No, I can snap my fingers. There's no way that. I wonder how my voice comes in compared it to yours. Looking at that little chart. I feel like we got charts going across. the screen. Yeah, a lot of charts. Based on the feedback I hear, yours is way higher, Lurch.

It looks like a heartbeat. Yeah. And me speaking's kind of low. And then when Lurch speaks. When I test it out, I don't really. We can't really tell. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah.

And I think Jake, like adjust them, so it's not too crazy. But yeah, so that's why we do it. Yeah, the clap is functional. It's not just for fun. We clap functionally. Trent Daddy's out sick. He'll be back hopefully next week. We have a big show.

We have Lonto Griffin, who is the most recent new winner on the PGA tour. obviously JT won in Korea a few days ago, but about a week and a half ago, Lanto Griffin won the Houston Open. He joined the show. Very, very conversational. He told great stories. He told some funny stories.

He was very enlightening. He was funny. He talked all about. And Frankie was out for pizza review, so he wasn't here, but he talked all about the chipping yips and was like mentioning Frankie because he had the chipping yips not that long ago.

Lonto Griffin. And then he got over it and won on the PJ Tour. like recently. So he tells this whole story about how he was playing in tournaments on the corn ferry tour, knowing that he was heading towards the PGA tour soon and that he was legitimately like chunking and chunking and blading chips on the fucking corn ferry tour. And then like a couple months later, one on the PGA tour. So he's telling this as like, hey, Frankie, I can help this guy out because I've been there before. So Frankie, you're going to have to go back and listen to that.

Wow. But it was very enlightening. It was a very, I chatted with him for about 50 minutes. It makes me think I can just wait on the PGA tour now. Or just quite a leap. just maybe get up and down once. Maybe. It would be huge. He, it was about 50 minutes long. So we're going to,

we're going to go through, alert myself, Frankie. We're going to go through headlines and a couple from the galleries for just a couple quick minutes. And then I'm going to hit you with that interview because like I said, it was close to an hour long.

He's the one who, if you remember some of the stories, he had like $176 in his bank account, I think, in like 2014. In 2017, he told his coach that he was going to quit the game. At one point, he was cadding for Willie Wilcox,

who was our second guest ever, the show and i think willie willcox finished like fourth that week and lato griffin got a 17 000 hour check from that that like allowed him to continue his golf career so he's really good friends with willie wilcox who we've had on the show who's coming to the office before uh great chat fun we go through a lot of different things off the course on the course uh it's a good chat that is coming up soon supreme golf they should be coming up all the time all the time on your uh whenever you're book in a tea time. Book with Supreme Golf.

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Do you love them, Lurch? I do love. Okay. I love Lamp. I knew someone was going to go there. You had to. Of course it was Lurch. You got something against me today here, Frank?

No. I just feel like I have the upper hand on you because the Rangers stink at hockey now. We're not going to talk about hockey, but they're in a cold spot. Remember last time, like, what was it, a week and a half ago on this podcast? He was saying how the Islanders stunk and he's like, you know, things aren't so good for the Islanders. They lost two in a row. The Rangers are by far the worst team of the NHL. They've lost five in a row.

I'm going to blame the NHL schedule. Chel scheduling. We played two games and then we had 10 days off and we've come out horrible after those 10 days. They had 10 days off? Something like that. 10 or 13 days off. No, they didn't. Yeah, they did.

That can't be correct. They had seven games off. They had seven days off or six. They had a game. Then they had another four. So it was like one game in like 12 or 13 days. Okay. But it wasn't 10 days off.

No. Okay. So that was wrong. It was close to right. They have lost five hockey games in a row. That's terrible. Two of them are a hockey podcast. I love when the Rangers lose a matinee on the weekend at the garden because you know those fans get so jacked up.

They show up to Penn Station early. They drink their beers and their brown bags. They get to Madison Square Garden. The whole show goes on the life. What are you doing? And sitting across the street just laughing and giggling like a hyena. And they lose. They just lose.

It would be an all-time shot of Rangers pouring out and you're giggling like a hyena across the street. We went for a little four-played drinks like a month ago or three weeks ago or something. and it happened to be a preseason game, I think, that night. The Rangers were playing. We walked into the bar across the street, and there were Rangers' jerse everywhere, and Frankie was just... That was the worst place to ever been.

He was in a nightmare. It was like when you take a very scared child to, like, a haunted house and things are too real. The haunted house was, that's what it felt like. Frankie was looking around like he was his eyes... Because we work in, like, Ranger Country. All these bars around here, whenever there's a Ranger game,

even if it's on TV, everyone's in Ranger gear because it's just right next to Madison Square Garden. A very vivid tweet that you put out yesterday. I can't imagine how bleak and depressed. the hallways of, quote, the world's most famous arena are right now as Blue Shirt Nation files out one by one after witnessing their beloved hockey team lose their fifth straight game, go aisles. So I thought they had dropped four.

I've ever put in a tweet in my entire life. I thought we had dropped four in a row walking into this podcast video. Frankie corrected me and he goes, I haven't missed a second of Rangers hockey all season. Last night we had the World Series on game one. We had opening night basketball. You know, I have to catch up on a bunch of shows on Netflix. I still haven't watched your recommendation, which we're going to wait for Trent to get back. I know we said this Thursday, but we'll wait for Trent to get back from when he's sick.

I turned on the Ranger game. I watched the entire thing last night. You loved it. Yeah. I mean, I love watching hockey, but I love watching hockey, too. Blues had a big win against the Colorado Avalanche. Huge. Avalanche had been, they were undefeated at that point.

They didn't have a regulation loss. And the Blues were on a little bit of a skid. Turned it around. That's what Stanley Cup champs do. So, no. Bruins are the real deal. David Pastronach, pasta is outrageous. He's from another world.

Guys have been scoring a ton of these fucking between the legs goals lately. That's like the move. If you're not doing that now, I don't even know if you can be in the NHL. I know. We're not here to talk about hockey. No. Foreplay travel. We've got some serious travel coming up.

We've got a big trip. We're doing Vero Beach with our friend, Jake Owen, who is the nicest guy in the world and a country megastar. We're doing Kevin Kisner's Kisner Foundation event, which I am seeing. We're the only media invited. There's a bunch of tour pros there. There's golf. Tyler Farr's playing concert.

There's like a VIP thing. A bunch of people are going to be around. We're going to be there all weekend. And then we also very soon are doing a Pinehurst trip. So I know we've been talking about a lot on the show. Supreme Golf was giving away like a Pinehurst experience trip that we had to talk about every time. And I kept saying I want to fucking go to Pinehurst so badly. Well, we're going.

We got a trip booked out pretty soon. We're going to play a bunch of different golf courses. We're playing Tobacco Road as well. So those of you that like our travel stuff, like when we post a trip. videos from different courses, this, that. We got a couple producers. We got the squad. We got my new fucking drone.

We got mics that we plug into phones. We're going to have very expensive cameras. And we are going to make some bad ass footage. We're going to get some badass footage of us all over that goddamn North Carolina. Never been there before? Never been to the Pinehurst? I don't know if I've ever been to really North Carolina. Maybe like coastal North Carolina?

Flying to Charlotte and then transfer. That's about it. That doesn't count. I mean, if you go to the airport, it doesn't count. What, in your eyes or everybody's eyes? You would say you've been to Charlotte if you just transferred to the airport. Also, nobody says transfer. Yeah, but I mean, I would say I've been to the state of North Carolina.

No, you haven't. No, you haven't. You were like in this little world. Like, it's like being in a... Would you say that you haven't been to the state of North Carolina? Correct. If somebody said, have you been in North Carolina? I'd be like, no.

And then they'd be a... And if you like, well, I'm not sure. I flew through and I had a transfer. they'd be like, yeah, no, obviously I haven't been to the state or you've been to an airport. So I would say not really, but I have been to the airport is my answer. I would just say no. I would say technically I've been in the state. Technically, I've been in the state.

I mean, to argue that is outrageous. Yeah, technically, yes. Factually, you were standing in the state. Actually, I was. So then the way this conversation is over. You have to use your brain for once and think about what are they actually trying to get at with like, oh, have you been in North Carolina? That is like a lead-in question to like, oh, tell me about where you've been. Isn't it nice?

You got to go to this restaurant. The rolling hills are great. Not like, oh, there's a fucking McDonald's at the airport. That's not what they're getting at. Nobody cares about that. It depends on the conversation. Now you're assuming where the conversation is going. You simply just asked, have you been to the state?

I've been to the state. If the conversation isn't like, tell me all the different airports you've been to, then there's no reason to say yes. This is similar to when someone gets a hole in one on their second shot or when it's on like a par three course or it's like an 85-yard hole. Yes, you got a hole in one, but you have to have a story that has to go with it. You can't say you got a hole in one on a par three course. That's an 85-yard hole.

So my question is you. Yes, I have been to North Carolina, but it was just in the airport. I just had a connection there. Didn't really see anything. I was just inside a hallway. Fine. So technically. You can't say you've been to North Carolina.

When have you been to a state? So if it's not the airport after a day, have you been to the state? When you walk outside the airport. Okay. So that's your. Yes. When you get into a cab and you drive to another place. I mean, then you're there.

That's your definition. It's going to be different for a lot of people. If I go to the Charlotte Airport, I get into a cab, he drives me 20 minutes to a restaurant, I eat dinner there, I've been to North Carolina. And then I go back and fly away. As long as you get out of the airport. Yeah, I agree with that. Team solidarity. Well, at least you saw some like the terrain.

I see you smoke you. Yeah, at least you saw like the terrain. I looked out the window. You engaged with a couple people. Stepped on the tarmac. What about that? Stepped on the tarmac outside of all. You were in an airport.

You're like in a military base. Like you're not in the, you're like in a. Just saying. You're like in a confined area. The question was proposed. Have you been to North Carolina? I have. Have I experienced what North Carolina has to offer?

No, I've not. It's such an easy no. Just an obvious no. You haven't been there. You know how many people have connected in Atlanta that they've never been to Atlanta? There's no way every single person. Like Atlanta's like the biggest connection airport in the world. In the world.

And like you think all those people say they've been to Atlanta. Transfer airport. Charlotte's a huge transfer airport. I'm pretty sure Atlanta's the number one or like Chicago. No, I do think Atlanta. airport might be the single busiest airport in the world. Yeah, Delta's hub is there. There you go.

Anyways, he's right. You would people, you think all those people are claiming like, oh, yeah, I've been to Georgia. It's beautiful. Like, no. They wouldn't add on the, it's beautiful. That doesn't make any sense. They wouldn't say they've been to it like. Unfortunately, you're wrong.

Yeah, you're right? Well, maybe you're wrong. I mean, I'm factually correct. I'm factually correct. If you guys got any recommendations of what we should do in Viro Beach, Pinehurst, or Aiken, South Carolina, let us. No. Email us forwardplay at barsoilsports.com. Maybe tweet at us. Fine. We'll be checking those things out. Headlines real quick. The Zozo Championship. First tournament sanctioned by the PGA

tour in Japan, which is very surprising. I think this deal lasts until 2025. Pretty good field. We've got Tiger is obviously playing. He was over there for the Skins game sticking around and playing. J.T. Rory. Spade. Hedeke Matsuyama. Adam Scott. Tommy Fleetwood. Who Fucks? Confirmed. Yes. Well, he hadn't confirmed. He just. was told. He's told and didn't deny it. Fienau, Tony Fianowl, shout out Colby, who bets him every week, and he finishes second every week.

Gary Woodland, who's our pal, who came in here after he won the United States Open, great dude. So it's a good field, pretty cool field. I was looking, I was just looking up numbers because obviously the PGA tour right now is doing, they've been adding last several years, handful of years, whatever it is. They're kind of building out this Asian swing of the tour that happens in early fall. They do Korea. They do Japan now, and then they do China.

I was looking up because I was just curious. 4.5 billion people live in Asia. I'm looking at these numbers you've listed below. They're crazy. 4.5 billion people. That's a market you want to take advantage. Correct. You're looking for eyes.

Everyone's brains thinking like, yeah, that makes sense. They want to add this Asian swing because there's like a lot of people over there and people are into golf, especially in the women's game where it's like you know that it's bigger over there. a lot more tournaments over there. It's like, yeah, that's a pretty good idea. So I was like, I want to look at like the real raw numbers. There's 7.6 billion people in the world. 4.5 billion of them live in Asia.

330 million people live in the United States of America. 745 million people live in Europe. So you think a lot of like traditional golf markets are like not even, not even most of Europe, a few different countries in Europe. And then the United States of America, that's why the PGA tour is the biggest and they play over here and all that. Which that equals just over one billion people total in the world. the entire United States and all of Europe. And again, a lot of Europe isn't even into golf at all, not considered, but we'll just

go with those numbers. You're talking four and a half times that, pretty much, or four times that are in Asia. Makes sense. You want to go over there. You should be over there with the stars, and you should be marketed at to the different Asian countries. So it makes a lot of sense that they're over there. I think they're 13 hours ahead.

I get that wrong every time, but I think they're about 13 hours ahead, 12, somewhere around there. So golf starts tonight. We're recording this on Wednesday at 7 p.m. Eastern, I think 10 p.m. golf channel coverage starts. So it'll be one of those where it'll be fun on the weekend where you can throw some bets in. You're still out of the bar having a couple beers or whatever and you can, before you go to bed, like watch a lot of the golf, which is great.

That's so many people. Think about that, man. How's your brain wrapping itself around that? It's barely doing it, man. Mine's not. Seeing 330 million. I mean, when you think about how many people in New York City, that's a ton of people. How many people?

I don't know. I think it's about 12. I think it's like 12 million, maybe 12 to 13. It's so minuscule to the billion number. Oh. 330 million people in America. It's a blimp on the radar. It's nothing.

It's nothing. 9 million Manhattan? Yeah, but that's just Manhattan. Oh, really? That's it? I thought it was closer to 16. All right. 16 million in the state of New York.

Oh, okay. In the metropolitan city of New York. We're talking 4.5 billion. That's outrageous. It's a lot of people, man. It's a lot of people. So those people watching golf, good for the game. Very good for the game.

How about there's over 2.5 million people on Long Island? Is that right? Yeah. There should be last. That place sucks. Okay. I'll wrap all this up after that rude comment about an entire population of people. It was a whole island.

A long one. This is going to wrap up Long Island and the Islanders in hockey talks. Someone sabotaged my restaurant. someone sabotaged my restaurant i saw that they put and i guess i was like a week and a half like late to this i guess someone tweeted this at me like a week and a half ago or two weeks ago but someone put a kate murray like for a reelection like sign on the outside of burrellys like on around the corner where we like we wouldn't see it and uh she's the one who hates the island she's the one that just got rid of the island like she like didn't allow the islanders to build the new stadium

like it was on her desk all she had to say was yes and she said no and she's the reason why That's an awesome. Raleigh's like dynasty will like one day probably like come to an end because the Islanders are now. Like you know what I mean? Like so many things could have changed. 15 years ago, the lighthouse project could have been built at the Coliseum. Charles Wong, the owner of the Islanders, was like, I will put in a billion dollars of my own money. Just let me do this.

And she said no. Is that the guy who just went to one hockey game was like this is awesome and bought the New York Islander? Charles Long went to one hockey game, loved it and bought the Islanders. It would be awesome to live life like that. Yeah. This is great. I'm going to buy it. And he signed DP to a 15-year, like $70 million.

Remember a Yashin's deal? Yep. The whole thing was a mess. With the turtlenex? But big turtleneck guy. Oh, yeah. Alexei-O-Mahead. Oh, my God.

The number one turtleneck guy, he would wear a turtle neck. Tiny shoulder pads, tiny shoulder pads, hard turtle net. Dude, I could find a picture. I know I can. I just have to dig. He comes to, he comes to Bureli still to this day, like all the time. He used to love Burelias. And he was on the first picture on Google Images.

Oh, my God. He would wear the turtleneck. That is a sick Ottawa Senator's turtleneck. He'd wear it to Borrelli's and his girlfriend, who I don't think he ever ended up marrying. He was dating her forever. He probably still is. Carol Al, she was like the first, like... Hopefully that's not a mistress.

No, she was just like... Easy, Frank. It's Carol Al. No, like, everyone knows that Alexi Yash and Carol Al. I'm just making sure you don't get in trouble here. She was like the first, like, mainstream supermodel, super hot. Like, everyone in my dad's age... First one ever?

Yeah. No, like the big, like, everyone in my dad's age, Carol Alt was like the Kate Upton. She was like that big one that was like on the goal. Everyone was like Kate Upton was big. Oh, huge. That little video of her dancing at one of the game, what game?

She did a hockey game. She did the, um, the cat dance, whatever, what is it? The cat. The doggy.

Yeah. I thought she did something else. I thought so too. Like at a, when she was in a stadium, a ring. Yeah. She,

she did a duggie at like some Rockets game and then she was on like a video shoot and did a cat daddy. Cat daddy. That's the one. Cat Daddy. Because I know that with cat daddy. She was in like a, bikini there's no way she was at a hockey game for that one that was the cat daddy was so i was

thinking about the dougie when she was at good stuff anyway i'm looking at this picture of him now in his islanders gear with a turtleneck on and man electric um so i text my dad said go take that sign down right now we are the laughing stock of the internet and he wrote that was a week ago i sent out someone in the rain to go like rip it up like 30 seconds after we saw it was up he's like you're a week late how about it took that guy a week to tweet it at you he just took no he tweeted it i so i i I missed it. I missed it. And then someone goes,

are you just not going to comment on Borelli's being the biggest backstabbers in the history of New York Island? You get framed. Yeah. Borelli's was framed. The other headline I want to get to before we rip through, well, before we get to our friend, Lanto Griffin. Captain Tagerwood's a couple weeks out from making his President's Cup picks. So the President's Cup, for about it doesn't know, top eight people make it automatically on points. I think those start like a year or two years out, something like that.

you stack up points and then if you're in the top eight you're just automatically on the squad and then tiger in two weeks will make four captain's picks the big joke obviously has been that he's going to pick himself i think there's zero doubt that he picks himself uh i do like that we started to see some of the articles pop up about like why tiger would shouldn't pick himself a lot of clickbait stuff i respect clip bait game but not on the boss man get the fuck out of here with that tiger will obviously pick himself um mostly i mean i think the main reason that he'll actually pick himself is because it's just better for the event. Correct.

When you're the captain, all they talk about, like the reason they go on all these different press tours, like a year, we saw a couple weeks ago, like Stricker was out at Whistling Straight, doing like big press tour. The reason they're doing all that stuff is to promote the event. That's a big part of your job as the captain, promote the event, grow the event,

you know, be kind of one of the main faces of the entire event. And if you're Tiger Woods and you know that you move the needle more than anyone else in the history of the game of golf, maybe of sports ever, you know that you have to be playing in the event. He just has to. So I don't think he has a choice. I think he has to pick himself.

I think he will. And it's like there's no way you can get scrutinized. Like you're Tiger fucking Woods. Obviously, you're going to pick himself. By the way, let's just go back to that little comedy. He is the biggest needle mover in all sports history. There's no one even close, I don't think. I agree with that.

No one else in any other league can be put into the spotlight and then move the needle as much as Tiger Woods. You take out LeBron James, the NBA still succeeds just as much as other superstars at his level, Russell Westboro, Kobe Bryant at the time. anyone there's always a guy tiger woods when he's out of a tournament the difference between that and when he's in one moves the needle more than any other sport it's not even close i agree with if sydney crosby's out of the league it's tough to compare to because like week by week you just see it right all right so football you know like brady's not in but they're just they're so like miniature

in terms of the span of time that the events take place you know it's just four days where jordan's in the league for seasons right and so you can see kind of that aggregate flow um so it makes it, I think, even more tough to compare the two. Right. But when Tiger was out, like Jordan Speed, Phil Mickelson, those guys are still playing. And like they just, it's not even close the ratings number. You know what I mean? Like the league.

Yeah, I'm just trying to think like. PGA still went on when Tiger Woods wasn't involved, just like any other league would with their star player. Right. Like there were still super, like there were still stars in golf. It's just, it's not even close to when Tiger's out. Yeah, the baseline when he's in not involved versus when he is is so different. in such a big gap, such a bigger gap than any other athlete in any sport. Like you said, like thousands.

If Tom Brady is just not in the Super Bowl. Jimmy Garapolo plays. That is not going to, now obviously if you get two like ship market teams or whatever that, but that has nothing to do with one player. No. Whereas like if Tom Brady himself is not in the Super Bowl, that does not change ratings by like 70% or it's like Tiger Woods is in the final round of the masters. Like that changes ratings by an astronomical.

Astronomical. And you can go back and look at like what the ratings were before he ever even existed. Correct. And it's like the purses were like one-eighth the size of what they are. And if you disagree with me and you're listening to this, send me who you think moves the needle more than Tiger Woods. You're going to get an email about Zach Johnson from Trent. Yeah. I guess maybe like if Ronaldo, like, didn't play.

You can just like wait to the next week until Tiger's involved again. You know, like football, they gradually like get removed from the league, whether it be playoffs, retirement or their career. But Tiger, okay, he plays this week. He's not in next week. So you're just like, oh, I'll tune that one out. and he's back in. Yeah, but you can also, in football, though, you can wait week by week to, like,

win the stars are playing a big game, right? Like, you can be like, ah, Brady, like, okay, again, we'll use Brady as an example because he's probably the graceful player of all time, of like, okay, they're playing the jets and then, like, the dolphins, you don't care, you don't care, but then it's like they got the Steelers on, like, Monday night, you know what I mean?

So it's the same kind of thing where, like, you don't really give a fuck about those other two games because you know they're just going to trounce or whatever. It's not that important. Whereas when you get, like, a prime time, and then he's that you might be more inclined to watch, but you're not going to be as inclined to watch as you are when Tiger Woods is playing. That difference is not even close to his high.

Yeah, I wouldn't put Tom Brady in that vein. I mean, it would have to be some singular athlete, and it's really tough to compare. And I don't, I would, I'm on the side that Tiger Woods moves the needle. And I'm just looking for if there's anybody that you can make an argument against. I was thinking maybe Renalo, because I looked at that dude's fucking numbers the other day. His social media numbers are laugh out loud funny. Yes, they are.

I don't want to say the wrong number, but when I read to you how many Instagram followers he has, it's actually the crazy thing. For a story, you get $750,000. I think it's close to a million now. Okay. For an Instagram story?

Yes. Per Instagram story. I'd be putting those things out like... He has... How many Instagram followers do you think he has? Well, I mean, because you... Dave Porter has like 1.6. I would say 52 million.

Okay. Yeah, I would say because of, like, the way that you talk this up, I think I'm going to guess higher than that. I'm going to guess $60 million. 189 million 187 million What?

What's he a top five people Person of the floor? He's the number one Yeah, number one Instagram It's not even close either I think the next highest Was like what like a hundred and fifty or something like that

Shee That is laughable So think about that So what does Messi have? The US population is only 330 million I'm more of a messy guy I mean Two thirds of the US follows

Ronaldo Good math Thank you That was amazing Yeah Dude I mean Leo Messi has 134 million.

So now, so now the argument can now be put in. So when Ronaldo, what team is he on? I have no idea. What? Juventis? Juventis. Didn't they get, like, sanctioned for like 10 years? They were a bunch of scound.

So is it Juventis? Juventis. I like to say, Juventis. So Juventis, when Juventis plays, what's another team? Rome? Real Madrid. Real Madrid. What's the Italian team?

Yeah, play Champions League. Let's go Champions League. So when Juventis plays Real Madrid, I guarantee when Rinaldo is. out it's significantly less viewership and like hype around that than when rinaldo yeah but i would say the global sport of soccer doesn't depend even close to on you don't think so rinaldo as like golf does on tiger wood specifically right like champions league still goes on all those diehard crazy fans all throughout the premier league and la leaguea and all that are still just as passionately ruthless and nuts and paying attention to like their league and the teams that are representing their

League and Champions League and all this and that. Right. You're saying there's, whereas like, there's such a baseline difference when Tigers involved in when Tiger's like, Bella Reeve when like that was just the, that was the difference.

Yes. And now like clearly. Loving into the like streets because Tiger was right. Now clearly. No one was. Golf's like baseline is way lower than soccer. Everybody understands that. We're just talking about like the percentage difference in interest,

viewership, moving the needle when Tiger's out versus when Tiger's in. I don't think even Ronaldo messy as many followers. They have all that. Like if you just remove the. those guys from the game, I don't think you get even close to the drop off, relatively speaking, that you get in golf if you just remove Tiger Woods. All right.

Boy, does Cristiano remove the needle. That one. Are you Christiano or Messy guy? Big time messy. I like, through and through. I like, close for me. I like watching highlights of Messi. I think he's like, I think he's just so much more like smooth.

I don't know. He's one of my favorite athletes to watch. I just threw Messi and follow, man. Rinaldo being as hot as he is, like you can't keep your eyes off him. Yeah, he is hot. Remember and how ugly he was? Yeah. It's on a different scale.

What about Serena Williams? I'm not a Serena guy. Really? No. I would just say it elevates women's tennis. Like, yeah. Yeah, it's a pretty good one, I would say. But I don't know that she has like,

I don't know that she has the star power. I don't know that she has this. She does, man. The same star power to reach as many people as Tiger, but then again, I guess that's still like, that's the same argument we're making against, like, the soccer players. So that's a good one. When she's in, like, the finals of the women's U.S. Open, it's...

If you have two no names or you have her, it's like, yeah, I need to know who wins that. Right. Yeah, I agree with that. That's pretty damn good. I still don't think it. I still think Tiger... Like, is Tiger more the sport of golf than Serena is the sport of one of the fans? No, I don't think that's close, honestly.

I don't, I think Serena is a huge uptick, but I don't think it's close to Tiger. Okay. I think a lot of tennis is driven on, honestly, the aggregate. And I don't think it's solely based on one player. I mean, certainly on the men's side, there's, you know, Federer Adal, and then it drops off. But I don't, yeah, I don't think that's close percentage-wise. She's got a text message from Dave that he's out for radio,

so I'm a little bit distracted right now doing text, trying to find somebody to fill in with us. So it's a little behind the scenes right there. A little behind the scenes action. Sort of like behind the greens. Behind the Greens is one of the great names that we've ever come up with. And it's just in line with the things that we like to do. Captain's picks real quick.

We're going to rip through these. And then we will get to Lanto Griffin. Tiger Woods the Captain. He's going to pick himself. That leaves three more picks. Now, I was going through looking at this, obviously a fan favorite for us, Kevin Kisner, our buddy. Got to put him in. I think he's got to be in.

He's tight with those guys. He's a locker room guy. He jellers with them. them, they love them, they like them a lot, and in terms of, you know, the type of things you like to add, you know, in terms of attributes to these team events, he drives the ball incredibly straight and he rolls the goddamn rock, right? And he's a matchplay machine. And he's a match play machine.

He won the match play this year, the year before he made it to the final, which that tournament's like impossible to make it to the final. Anything could happen. You could run into a buzzsaw at any moment. You could shoot 64 and have the guy shoot 63 and beat you, and it's not like a regular tour event where like you're still in second place going into sunday you're just fucking out of the tournament kis finished second last year and then won it this year so he is a match play machine and dewey's back right doy's back he's looking good out there he's got uh last time i saw me had like

one of those sleeves on his fucking leg it was hilarious hold it all together doy's back but kis is um i think we got to make a hard campaign we're going to make a hard push that kis should be selected he is like friends with tiger tiger likes him obviously uh saw some t we Easy. Yep, T.U. Easy. So I think that there's a really good chance. Kids was also great in the 2017 President's Cup over at Liberty National, where we had the Barstle Classic Championship, not a big deal, and where we played and posted a video of us playing all 18 holes. Go check it out on YouTube before play golf. But he... Lurch wasn't there. No, there was another thing. Lurch missed. A part of the final five holes. Kind of a fun bit now. I rewatch that over the weekend. All the things that I miss being on this show, but missing so much, it's like so frustrated.

You got to go to YouTube and watch this video if you're listening to this and you haven't yet. I watched it on my TV at home. this weekend and it's a very high quality video and it's not even close to what we're going to end up doing I think production wise like we have this Pinehurst trip coming up we have a lot of things planned for it big time we're having a production meeting we like we've never done one of those I think to open up the curtain a little bit for the listeners I think one of the basis like one of the things that we're going to want to do when we go to these golf courses is show off how awesome the golf courses as opposed to like I don't know sometimes I think we do a lot of like all right let's just try and grab every single shot of ours but and And like it's hard for us when it was just us, like me and Riggs out or like Riggs alone out on a golf course like band in or something and like to try and capture how cool it is. Now we have two like elite like editors now that can actually fucking figure out how to make the course look phenomenal. Well, they're okay. I don't mean. Well, I was trying to pump their tires. I was just trying to trip and bring it back down to Earth.

They are elite. They're great. Yeah. They're fantastic. But you know what I mean? Like it's so much different. Some would say they're the U word. Yeah.

Some. We're not going to. No. Even when we were at Liberty, like, it was like, it was like put together quickly. We're like, all right, this is our first time, like, doing something with two camera guys. We're going to try and edit it different. And that video came out phenomenally. Like, that video is so good.

And we've also got now, we've got two drones. And one is off the charts, like a helicopter. Yeah. And you agree. Like, you've said this too. It's like, Riggs is, like, we want to put out a video of a golf course that, like, makes you be like, holy shit. That is, like, I need to go play there. Yeah, you want it to be a while.

That's like the product I want to be involved in. We also want it to really kind of hit and pop on your senses. Yeah. Like the visuals and then it cuts and you get like a funny moment, which is like our secret sauce or the fuck you want to call it of us like our banter. So it feels like you're in the round, but also then hits you with like these crazy drone shots and then back in. So there's a lot that we do want to do. We have come a long way from two, three years ago where we and even like a couple months ago.

and we still post these or we just film videos with our iPhones and like right that's going to get so much better those are quick hitter stuff those are like bite size things that are two three four five minutes long we are on this trip like I said we're going to have a production meeting which we've never done before we're going to sit down be okay this day we're going to film this that blah blah so it should be next level which I'm very excited about and should showcase the courses tobacco road is supposed to be eye popping crazy dunes and unulations and a wild design and we'll go through pinehurst right imagine a shell where like it's a slow moving drone shot of this like crazy dune or bunker and we're highlighting like you don't see us yet and we're like we're showing like look how fucking sick this part of the golf course is and then it cuts to Trent in the middle of this bunker and dune and he just can't get out of it and like he's not acting he's he wants to get out of this fucking badly and like it just shows like not only does it look incredible but it's also the most impossible hole for someone of like a regular you know handicapped to play it yeah Yes, and that's where we can make it different than like, you know,

if Golf Channel or Golfing Channel or someone else just, like, highlights a video of a golf course. Like, we can add our own flair to it. Yes. So we're also, we're not doing, you know how we are famous phrases? It's not a vacation. It's a golf trip. This is, um, somewhere in between. This is a, we're not playing too much golf.

It's a production trip. Production trip. We're leaving it to pretty much one round a day so that we can focus on a lot of filming and get all the shit that we want. Go recharge our drone batteries. if you need to and get out there for hours and capture crazy shots, cool shots, low shots, through the trees,

above the trees. Yeah, if we're staying in a cool, like, cabin or house or something that, like, you would be able to, like, that you, a fan or a listener would be able to stay in and book with your buddies. We want to show you what it's like. You won't be because we're going to be staying in elite.

And you want to use the word elite. We're going to be staying in elite places of pioneers. But, I mean, you may be able to do it if you have a high bank rule. You know that checkbook, maybe. But, like, we want to show you what it's like to, like experience that like what is the dinner spread like and it's i mean like i said it's going to be high production we're excited to say that we're excited is an understatement as you can tell

we're basically just telling you about how excited we are and this is my first week not doing like peter reviews that text message i mentioned earlier you got to be so excited from dave was like hey when are you guys going on that uh week long thing again he's going to have uh eddie host barstle radio oh which would be cool wow uh eddie barstool yeah chicago i'm fucking love Eddie Barstle. Me too. I just sat down and we'll do a little in-plugging of our own

barsoil stuff. I just listened to him talk to a Fendom, financial dominatrix. You know what this is? I saw tweets about it. I had no idea what it was until you just said, Findom. Financial dominatrix. Financial dominatrix.

These girls have warped men's brains to, well, I guess it's just like a fetish is they get off on like giving stuff to these women. So like, they'll be like, let me buy you. you these like shoes or like take control of my check like my checking account and like that that gets them off that's like their fetish is like them but a woman financially dominates them yes like oh i'm gonna take your money today and they're like okay and then also they go in and like jerking off the bathroom and dress up as a woman and see if he could do it just like yeah take my money like go buy yourself something like i have no control like tell me what tell me what i can buy like do they do they

does the man act like he doesn't want it to happen yeah and then also they walk like here's my credit card. Don't you dare go buy those shoes. This is all these other type of domination. I'm going to buy those shoes. Yes, it's exactly what it is. 30 grand for shoes. This all started was there was a video of a guy in Chicago getting walked like a dog, which is funny because Eddie calls his podcast of the Chicago dog walk, getting walked like a dog around the bean by a woman and he's like kissing her feet and she's like dominating him. They also talk about like they put these penises in chastity belts.

This one dude who's in California just like doesn't have the king anymore. and his penis is losing inches by the minute because if you can't, there's only a hole to pee. He can't, he can't do anything. He can't, it's a, it's a, what? He gets off on the fact that this woman has the key and he can't. That's got to get old. No, he goes to work and like, love it. Six years later, you're like, oh, this is sweet.

She said that this guy, he has told her he doesn't, he never wants to be out of the chassis. He never wants to be out. He never wants to be out. He wants to keep, he wants to be locked up. It is some of the most titillation. audio I have ever listened to it's not even that long right it's like 19 minutes yeah I think there's two episodes that are 19 minutes is muscle listen and you'll listen to it Eddie barstool chief who's also really good on it because he's so like thrown off he's just like wow he just keeps saying like

like like like you know what I mean like he's so like uncomfortable good guys but I love the barst Chicago guys we made such a good hire by getting them on board they're great they're so barstool so Eddie is going to be hosting the week that we are at pinehurst which again I don't know that you guys even care about that but if you're a barstool radio fan you might captain's picks real quickly try to get to that 10 times Kisner I think Kisner should be picked he's 15th in the standings he won the match play

Great at 2017 President's Cup we're going to make a big campaign to get him there because if he goes there's a good chance that we're going to just go and try to cover it and hang out with Kiz and play Australian golf which would be sweet Tony Fienowell now barely missed out he's another name Ricky Fowler he's boys with everyone I'd be very surprised if they didn't pick him

those are my three guesses I think that they'll take Kiz Fee now and Fowler there's also Snetta is in the mix. Can't have him crying all over the place. Leave him back in the stage. Kevin Nah, Billy Horshaw, Patrick Reed, Phil Mickelson. I don't know if they're going to go with any of those guys,

but they could. It wouldn't be the most surprising thing ever. Phil's been on every one of these teams for like 30 years. So I don't think he's going to do it. He's like been openly talking about how bad he's been playing for six months now. Right. He's bad in these events, right? I think President's Cup, everybody has a good record

because we have just slaughtered the international team. But, you know, historically, Ryder Cup, compared to his real record and real golf. No, not great. So that's kind of our look at that. We'll, of course, break those things down more closely. I mean, we still got a couple weeks. So, okay, next up, Lanto Griffin.

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Here is Lonto Griffin. Hey, what's going on? Lantau, what's up? Hey, you got the headphones too. Hopefully we got this out of there. Things are looking up. I will say we did a test. It worked for like a couple minutes, so we're confident here.

We're not cocky, we're confident. Yeah, same with me. That was like me on Sunday in Houston. Right, exactly. Yeah. I appreciate the patience. We're in a relatively new office, so we're still working out some of the kinks. Nice.

Grown's good, man. Congrats on all the success. You guys following your success has been pretty crazy. Well, I mean, you're a PJ tour winner, so, yeah, let's say it goes both ways. I'll take it. So now that we're into it, Tuesday, you're doing it. doing a little housework. Again, it's not necessarily all glamorous. PJ Tour winner doing some laundry.

This is kind of what you do in your downtime between, you know, events? Well, I just had no option. I had no clothes left that were clean after the last, you know, 15 days. So that was a necessity. But now it's been, the last week's been crazy. Obviously, a lot of not being able to sleep a whole lot. And actually had two of my best friends where they came and visited for the weekend. And we had that trip planned for the last two months.

just because this was, you know, I had two weeks off here, so it could have been a better time. And we got to celebrate a little bit. We had a party. And we played a little bit of golf. He only round of golf I played since Houston. So it's been a really cool nine, ten days since the win. What's that celebration look like? I mean, are you like a party animal?

Are you more tame? What's your celebration look like? I mean, I like it both. I like to have a good time once in a while, but I'm just getting too old to be able to handle going out. So Friday, you know, my two best friends were coming in. And I said, you know, why don't I just invite a few of my buddies over that play golf and, you know, my coaches. And I was thinking having like eight or ten people over to my house. And, you know, I invited everybody thinking half of them would say no.

And, of course, like 25 people show up to my little, you know, townhouse in Jacks Beach. So we had a great time. I got a local taco place to cater. And Superstroke actually gave me. They give all tour players that use their better. They give them a gift card for $250 just as a thank you. So I decided to go to the liquor store. And $400 later, I came home with enough, you know, enough for the party.

And we got plenty left over. That's a good run. $400 a liquor. That's a party. Yeah, beer, wine, champagne liquor. It was pretty cool seeing the shopping cart. It was like every college kid's dream. dream shopping cart

Yeah, so I'm pretty much same age as you And I very much felt that When you're like, yeah, no, I used to kind of go hard But now a really sweet night is like go out Maybe you have a nice dinner A couple drinks, you look and it's like 9.45 And you're like, yo, you guys want to get the fuck out of here? Yeah, let's just head home, watch a dateline

You know, pass out of 11 and You know, you're spot on with that And, you know, that hangover I posted something on I think I posted something on Saturday night or Sunday. I can't remember on this game, but it's been like a two or three-day hangover just from going out until 3 a.m. on Friday night.

So this one hit me pretty hard. So you mentioned you played your first round of golf since winning. Curious about what's like, do you play a lot of fun golf? Because some guys we talked to are like, you know, golf's all business for me. I'm either all in, like Bryson, for example. And he's obviously quite different than a lot of folks, but he's like, I don't play fun golf there's no such thing for me it's either work or nothing what's like fun golf look like to you get out there and like mess around with your buddies quite a bit or what's that look like yeah i mean you know

living here in jacks beach all the tpc guys there's a there's a good variety of guys that like to you know go out and have fun and play and then there's a lot of guys that don't ever play billy horschill he's based on the back range hitting balls all the time and that's what works for him i like to do a little bit uh you know fun golf i mean golf definitely got to the point where, you know, it's a job and you have to take it seriously. But when I get my boys in town and, you know, my guys, you know, from my college buddies, and that's when golf's fun for me. That's when I don't, I mean, I don't care if I shoot 65 or 85.

So Sunday we went out and played. And, you know, my buddy Oliver is like, I don't know, three or five handicapped. And, you know, on a course like TBC and my buddy Chase, he's my college teammate. He's probably a scratch. And, you know, so I gave him, I think I gave Chase seven shots for 18. gave Oliver maybe 10 shots and we got to the last hole and I was one back and two back and then we were playing for lunch so they both played well I think I shot you know three-hender but we were just having a good time and and so that's when golf I mean they kind

of take you back to childhood when you're just having fun you don't really care what you shoot and and so that was that was probably the most fun round of golf I've played in probably over a year just on Sunday just having a good time Yeah, I'm always interested by that. So your buddy, let's see, if your buddy's like a three or a five, you give him 10 shots, so you're playing somewhere around like a plus five, plus six, something like that. Yeah, well, I don't really touch the club. I worked with my coach, Todd Anderson, for an hour on Friday.

He just wanted to take some videos. I feel like this is the best. I've been swinging in my life, and we just wanted to get some videos. So we talked for a while. But other than that, I hadn't touched a club in Houston. So I told them I was like, you know, I'll probably shoot 70. keeping two sawgrass as a bear and, you know, both of my boys have jobs.

So, yeah, I just figured, you know, if they can break 80, I break 70s, you know, 10 shots or so, it's pretty fair. That is fair. So you have been, like you said, let's kind of go through it. Let's go through your 2019-2020 season. You obviously won at Houston. We'll get into those details. But leading up to that, I mean, you're having a hell of a year.

You've got a bunch of top 20 finishes. Talk about kind of going into this season, what you were feeling, what's different, and why you've been playing so well? Yeah, so that's a backtracked at last, you know, the PJ tour that ended. I made eight cuts to finish, you know, the last season. That gave me a lot of confidence and went to the, you know, corned Perry finals, and I ended up missing the last three cuts to lose my card.

You know, that was, that was like just getting punched in the gut, like 100 times in a row. So I ended up taking about three months off last fall. I didn't want to, and I knew if I got back to golf, I'd be trying to make swing changes. I knew my game is where it needed to be. And I never really had a break like this in my life. So I kind of took advantage.

I ended up buying the townhouse I'm living in now. And for like two or three months, I was painting, doing renovations. We laid new tile. We did new ceilings. You're a handy, man. I couldn't change a lightball before that, I'm promising. But it's amazing what YouTube will teach you. And one of my buddies from Virginia is a contractor.

So he came down and spent some time with me. So we just built some cool stuff around the house, and I just got my mind off golf. So, you know, get to December, the cornerstery season starting in January in the Bahamas, and I got hungry again. I started wanting to play. And Greg Norman gave a little speech at the Exuma tournament, the pro-am dinner, and he basically said,

I don't look at the guys that finish, you know, they win and they missed three cuts. And he's like, I look at the guys that are ready for the people. good tour as being the guy finishing top 25, you know, more than half of the event, finishing, having a lot of 10, 15th place finishes. And obviously, throwing in a win is important, too. And that, like, I've thought about that comment for so long this year because I looked back in my career and it's been like two years ago I had a win and then I'd finish 60th to 70th,

you know, a lot of the weeks when I made the cut. So I kind of chalked it up to two things. One, I played way too much. I'd play two years ago. I played 13 events in a row. Last year on the PJ tour, I played nine weeks in a row. And I kept making all the cuts. Like I made 10 straight cuts on the cornerfired tour two years ago,

but I'd finish 60th and 70th because I was just burned out by Saturday and Sunday. So going into this year, after I heard that, I was like, let's come up with a game plan. What do I need to do to be real consistent, turn those 50th, 60th place finishes into 25th or 15th or whatever. So that was pretty cool. This year I actually did that. I mean, after you came up with a game playing, my short game needed work. I just need to play smarter and just focus more on the weekends. And it worked out.

I had a lot of top 25. So going into the PJ tour season, that was my goal this fall. I just said I don't need anything crazy. Just play real solid and try and stack up a lot of good finishing. So when you say focus more on the weekends, what does that mean? Does that mean you're looking to like big picture on the weekends? You're trying to figure out where you stack up versus just focusing on your game or how does somebody look at their game and say,

okay, I'm just going to focus harder on the weekends. Because it seems like from the outside, it's like, why wouldn't you just fucking focus as hard as you can all the time? Yeah, no, 100%. I know exactly the same. So, you know, going to the weekend, if you're in, you know, you're in 22nd, right? And you start out three over three five.

It's pretty easy. I mean, you dropped to 45th. It's pretty easy to be like, I'm out of it. I mean, I can't win. Right. But I wanted the mindset of, you know, you don't need to do anything crazy.

You just need to go shoot three, four, or five under. on, you know, the Quarantary Tour courses are a lot easier. They're set up easier. So I just wanted to have more of a mindset that I'm here to win, but I'm also, winning is not the only goal. You can make a good week. You can turn a, if you turn a 30th and a 15th, it feels like you're winning on Sunday.

So I just wanted to put more emphasis on being prepared for Saturday and Sunday, so I didn't, I wasn't grinding as much. I'd play nine holes on Tuesday, play, you know, maybe pro-eim on Wednesday, They not hit a lot of balls after the round, not trying to be perfect, get more rest. But have that kind of, I don't know, it sounds stupid, but like a little bulldog mindset on the weekend that, you know, I don't care what happens on the, if I got off the bad start, if I get off to a good start, whatever it is, I'm just going to keep plugging and try and, you know, take every shot. Don't take a shot for granted because if you're focused, let's, you know, one shot and you make a double, you know, you hit a bad tee shot.

And then the next hole you want to fire at every pin and you can shortside yourself make a little. I just wanted to be real steady, don't need to do anything crazy. And so the focus aspect, we can talk more about that in a second. This is a pretty good story. But, yeah, I just wanted to, I just look back on what I've done in the past and why, you know, why hadn't that worked out for me? I think I got too emotional, too, you know, pissed off. So I tried to turn that energy into something a little bit more positive.

I got to ask you what, so we had Greg Norman on the show about a year ago, And there's certain people who you meet who just they just have like a star power, a star presence to him. And Greg Norman was one of them where even when he walked out of this office like Dave Portnoy, our boss was like that guy is a star right there. Right. Similar to me, right? Yeah, right. I'm sure you get that all the time. Yeah, every day. No, I'm kidding.

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I know a lot of your listeners A lot of people have a hard time of short game Right tight lives You know chipping you have I battled that moral life Yeah I know somebody I'm just not my short game Yeah, I know there's a guy sitting next to you that doesn't have the best short game.

Yeah, so my short game's always been my Achilles heel. I feel like I would have been on a PJ tour two, three, four years earlier if I could, you know, sit a green from five guys off the green. There was a stage down in the Latin America tour where, you know, I was making doubles. If I met the green, it would be bogey at best, double, maybe triple. So fast forward to this year, my short game was pretty solid this year on the Corcorary Tour. but I get to I get to Victoria National

and I'm in the final group on Sunday with Tom Lewis granted I don't there's not I have nothing to play for if I win I'm not going to move up to number one Scotty Sheffel had that lock so but I was still I mean I was still nervous

I wanted to play I wanted to win and get some momentum but going to the Sunday we get to the you know I'm driving to the course I run out of electrolytes right so I stop at CVS I'm looking for some of those noon tablets and they don't they don't have anything there's a supplement there an on-it supplement i know it's a name brand a lot of tour players use it and it's called trum tech and i look at the

ingredients is like energy and endurance i'm like man i've been playing a lot i get a little bit you know i don't focus as well on weekends let's try this out so it's for bodybuilders um and like proffit people it says it takes four so i take one and the front nine on sunday there i'm feeling, man, I'm like more energy. It's supposed to give you more oxygen. And I felt pretty clear. So I get to the back night, I'm like, man, let's take another one. So I take another one, even more clear.

It's the best I felt, you know, in a final group. So I get a 13. I'm like 200 on the round. I'm solo second, I think. I'm 60 yards out in the middle of fairway. I make triple. I go chunk, chunk, kind of like a blade, and then I three put from 50 feet.

So that was kind of a punch in the stomach. you guys imagine. So all of a sudden, all of a sudden, the short game gyps are back. And I'm like, this is a great time for that, you know, Sunday, trying to win a golf tournament, TV cameras around me. And so I get a birdie, you know, I buggy 14, like, I won the hardest holes on planet Earth. But I birding 15, 16, I'm back into like maybe a solo third or something like that.

I miss the green by six inches. Easiest chip in the world sitting in, you know, the rough was kind of thick, but I had a good life. I blade it. I blade it from the rough over the green. and then I yip the next one to like 20 feet and make double. So I'm like, oh, good God. Thank God for this coming back.

The last tournament before the PJ Tour starts, right? And so I ended up finishing seventh. I missed a 5-footer on 18 for Bertie. And then I'm just like kind of my mind spinning. I'm about to start the PJ Tour season and I have the chip against. So we have a week off. I hit both my coaches up, Steve Prater and Virginia and Todd. I'm like, we got to do something.

So we all start working and I just realized I never worked on shipping mechanic like I've always just It's never really been a big focus of mine and so we we got a lot of work done at the greenbrier the first three days And and I kind of changed my tempo I took it back further and fast forward to Sunday the greenbrier You know this is two weeks after that Chipping X-Bridge and at at Victoria National Yeah, and I was nipping every I was I was I was nip in every chip coming down the stretch, you know, with 10 times more money on the line. And obviously, I wanted to get off a good start.

So that was pretty cool, you know, to be able to overcome the chipping yips in a week. And the last five weeks, obviously, my short game's been incredible. So our boy Frankie is out, he's out doing a pizza review, but I'm going to tell him, and I'm going to show him, I'm going to make sure he plays this clip. I'll film a little video because I know he's going to have some crazy animated reaction like he always does. But bottom line is if a couple weeks before you're on the PGA tour and then a couple weeks later you win on the PGA tour, you had the chipping ips

and now you're out there as a PGA tour winner, I feel like Frankie's going to take a ton of confidence and hope out of this. That's the reason why I brought it up. I know that Frankie's got terrible. He's got a chip-off. He's the fucking worst, man. He's like, it's dangerous to be around him. You don't want to be the right of them or you don't want to be passing.

Tell them I'll work with him on it because I feel like I hit the jack thought. I hit the lottery with short game figuring out how to not yip it. That might be the key. We've had all these. We've had like Bryce and we've had kids that tried to help him out. I think it might need to be someone who's been there before who's been down in the depths that Frankie is down in right now, down in the darkness, where it looks like there's zero light at the end of the tunnel. I think that's he needs someone who's been there before. Well, real quick, I'll tell you a story about second stage of Q school 2016.

I'm 500 through 11 the first day. I missed the green just short. It's kind of like on the fringe fairways into the grain and my caddy was like yeah, just a little nipper over that slope

and I'm like, man, I'm not feeling this. I was like, I just want to putt it but if I put it, I couldn't get inside 10 feet and he's like, man, this is really not that hard of the shot. And it really wasn't. I just had to fly it over a little slope so it wouldn't kick hard right

off the edge of the green. And long story short, I made triple. I double hit it. And then so I go from 500 two-under. So going into the final round of that second stage of Q school, I was one in front of the number, hitting a great, putting great. And I was like, man, I didn't sleep that night because if I missed the green,

I wasn't going to make par. It was going to be a bogier double. So I was like my game playing on that final round was to hit every single green. I don't care if it's 50 feet, 100 feet. And so I played to the middle of green on every hole for the most part. And I hit 18 green, shot 64, and 1 by 2. So, sorry, I won, yeah, I won by two. But even on 16, I'm telling you, even on 16, I had like a five-shot lead on the number,

and I was like, if I miss a green, I could miss it. Like, I could not make the final stage. So if I hadn't got through that round with the chipping amps, I wouldn't be here because I never would have got on corned ferry tour. That is incredible. I tell Frankie, man, I know how he feels. I've been there. Well, it is. I mean, as much shit as we give Frankie, which a lot, and he deserves it because he is.

is a horrific chipper of the golf ball. And he doesn't, there is one video where he chunked one hilariously, and then some other, like, clowns in Staten Island just yelled from across the golf course, like Frankie Butter Dyes. And he love, but he usually doesn't chunk it. He usually blades. And that's why that is the worst miss you can have because, like, you're saying, you're like, no, I'm only like 20 yards away from the pin or 10 yards away.

I got to hit a little slip, a little chip, like over the slope, whatever. But if you blade it, it just goes in anything over the green is always horrific. and if you're blading him over the green, you just can't even really play golf. So Frankie, he's got the nicest swing, I think, of anybody on our crew up here. People love his swing, and they're like, well, what Frankie shoots?

Like, well, 93. It's like, you don't get it. He cannot be within 50 yards of the hole and get the ball on the green. He just can't do it. And it's not like it's not uncommon. Tiger Woods went through the whole thing not that long ago, where he was,

where was it out at the Phoenix open, where he was just blading chips over the green left and right. And then, I mean, I remember thinking at the Masters this year when he flared that approach. boat shot on 18 and he had to make bogear better and he had like a little 30 yard pitch and i'm like man if there's any time that somebody had the yips and brandle shambly's gone on forever about how you can never really fully conquer the yips whatever i'm like if tiger just doesn't hit a good

chip here like we're going to be going to a playoff so you never know i mean if it could happen to him it could happen to you it could happen to really anybody and maybe frankie there's a little light at the end of the tunnel for him well we know we all know number 18 in augusta i mean if he if he blades that he might not even get the playoff totally yeah i remember I remember vividly watching that and being like, Tiger, please aim this 25 feet right of the hole, use that backstop. Like, I was nervous. I was more nervous for him on that shot than any other shot because when you can experience the Yips, you know, you think about them. Even if you haven't done it in a year, if you have a shot that much pressure, I mean, it's hard not.

I mean, obviously, Tiger with his mental mindset, I mean, he probably wasn't thinking it, but I can tell you, those thoughts creep in. and that was not needy pitch. I'm dead on. I'm thought on with you on that one. Yeah, I was nervous as well. So Augusta, you know, you're going to be playing in the Masters. Has that kind of sunk it in? How jacked up are you for that?

Man, that's the cool. That's one of the coolest things about this. I've never, you know, like, people have always been like, hey, I play a pro, and they're like, have you ever played Augusta? I'm like, no, I'm waiting, you know, I'm waiting, you know, to earn it. And that's like a total joke. Like, I never thought I'd earn it. and I would play Augusta any, if somebody invited me a Gusa, I would, one, I would pay anything,

and two, I would drive as far as I needed to. So I've always had that little, like, cliche joke. I've been like, I'm just kidding, I'd play anytime. I'm going to start saying that, too, like, no, I'm going to wait until I get into the Masters. I'm going to wait to earn it. Or if I just get invited, I'll go. And you're like, yeah, yeah, you'll quit your job to go play. Right, exactly.

But, no, that was one of the first questions I asked my agent. I was like, so when can I, you know, can I go play? Can I take some guests? Like, Augustus is just such a special place. I mean, any golf fans, howled grounds. And, and that's been one of the things I, you know, I was, I was just scrolling through Instagram this morning. They showed Adam Scott last year hitting on 15 of those pleated pants. And it actually gave me chills. I was like, oh my God, like, I'm going to be able to hit that shot this year. You know, it's just, it's crazy to me. And not in my wildest dreams. I always knew I could do it, but I mean, your dreams as a kid growing up is to play a gust,

you don't never, you never know if it's actually going to happen. So, yeah, you know, I wake up in the middle of the night, the last eight or nine days, and I'm like, holy cow, I can go play a gust of tomorrow if I want to. That's insane to me. That is outrage. I mean, I just got the chills. You said that, and I couldn't be further away from being in that situation. So what did, what did, like, they say?

They're like, you can, you know, now that you're in the field, you can just go whenever you want. I'm sure you got to hit up a member or how's it work? Yeah, so my agent's been working on that. So if I want to go play, I get five visits before Augusta. So if I want to, I can go play by myself without any, without a member or without, but I can't bring anybody. I can bring a coach or a caddy. But apparently if I want to bring like my buddy Oliver that was down here, he's been my best

friend since, you know, I was 13 years old. And I was like, man, I want to get you on there. I want to like how cool would that be and so apparently if I have a member that that sponsors me and plays with me I can bring a guest they don't quote me on this is my agent found us all out for me I'm still trying to work it out but I'm heading to Virginia we have a I grew up in Virginia we're having a big party at my home club on on Thursday and it just so happens that my girlfriend lives in Charlotte which isn't that far from Augusta and I got to be back in Jacksonville by Monday so Virginia to Florida I'm going to drive up

So if I'm driving back, I mean, I might as well stop at Augusta this weekend. I see where this is going. I see where this is going. Yeah. I like, I mean, nobody was a bigger fan of you winning and rooting for you harder than your buddy Oliver. Yeah. That's funny. So I don't know if you guys have read the story about the first six or seven events of the year.

So this corn fairy season, I was hitting a great, but I couldn't hit the hole from 18. And I've always been a good putter. So me and Oliver and our boy Jason, we always do a master's trip. We've done it three years in a row. They come down to my house. We played TBC sawgrass in the morning, watch the Masters every day. So we're doing that trip this year, and we have a tee time at like 8 a.m. on stadium Sunday at the Masters. So that storm hits in the tea times you change, Tiger's seen off at 9.

So we bail on TBC. We wanted to watch the entire round. So after the round, obviously, everybody that's ever taken. touch the club when they watch the masters all they want to do is go play golf after that right oh yeah um it's like it's like the ultimate motivation so we go out and we're playing valley we play nine holes and and i grab his putter um out of his bag and i'm hitting a couple plus in the putting and i make the first two like 15 20 footers i'm like i'm like dude this feels pretty good so we got and play nine holes and i think i'm if the ball didn't go and it looked out and i'm like Oliver like

you know can i borrow this can i give it a shot for a week and uh you know the grips four years old, you know, the lie loft, I have no idea what it is. The putter's got a couple dings on it. He doesn't, you know, he doesn't put head cover on or whatever. So I go to Alabama. This was Sunday. I go to Alabama on Monday, and I win the first week with it. And then the second week I finished solo, or two-way time for second in San Antonio, and I lost my card up. And Oliver's point was like, look, dude, you know, if this putter's going to help you, this is going to help me because he gets to play sawgrass for free. He gets all my hand-me-down iron, all my tie-less here.

you know, after I'm done with it. So he's like, it's going to help you, man. It's going to help me. But it was his favorite putter, and he's a good putter. So, you know, I haven't taken it out of the bag. I haven't changed the grip. I haven't changed the lie, anything. And I haven't had a bad week putting since the Masters, you know,

whatever that, six, seven months ago. It's so funny how that works. I remember Jim Furrick told the story. I feel like it was three or four or five years ago where he picked up a putter for like $30 at some random golf store on the way to one of the tournaments and won that week with the putter. So as much as people get into technique and from the swing to the putter with all the video, and it's like sometimes you just get something that feels good and you're rolling the rock,

that you just stick with that thing. Yeah, it's confidence and momentum. That's all golf is, really. So speaking of rolling putts, let's go through the Houston Open. Like I said, you've been playing really well. I think you had like four top 20s, three or four top 20s to start the season. You're out of the PJ tour. You're playing well.

You get to the Houston Open. Find yourself on the back now. what are you feeling? What are you thinking? You've been all preparing, like you talked about earlier, for going into this season. You really need to focus on the weekends. What was your mindset going to the back that I know

when you got a real good chance to win? Yeah, so Willie Wilcox. I don't know if you guys know Willie. Willie was our second guest we ever had. We love Willie. Yeah, he's one of my very best friends. He's taught me a lot I know about, like, the mental side. And just he's got a different personality as you guys know.

but he's all I catty for him in 2014. I've known him, you know, known him for 10 years. And he's always preached that, you know, when you're in the lead or you're near the lead, it gives you, like, you can use the mindset. Like, you don't have to win a golf tournament that, you know, make a lot of money or get a lot of FedExa points or whatever. So if you can take that pressure off yourself and just be like, I can make a double right now and I'm still in third, and that's still a great week.

So that's what, you know, I've adopted that from him. And so I was eerily calm the whole day on Sunday. just knowing that, you know, even if I do shoot one or two over, I'm still going to have a great week. And for whatever reason, that type of mindset just calms me down. And ball striking, the whole day, my ball striking felt great. Swing. I wasn't nervous. I didn't feel the jitters that you feel sometimes on, you know, in contention.

The putter on the back nine, believe it or not, is I was getting a little shaky with it. I just felt a little jittery. I didn't, I wasn't matching up my speed. and I missed, I think, 10, you know, 10, 12, 13, 15. So I missed four really good looks for Bertie on those holes. You know, I had four or five good looks. So I got through 16 and tied to the lead. And I had like a 30, well, 33 feet, four inches or something like that.

Something like that. My caddy is like, yeah, something like that. My caddy was like, what do you see here? I'm like, the cup out left. I was like, I'm going to bury it. I was like, I got this. So he just stepped off. And later, he was like, any time I hear you say, you know,

you're that sure or something, I just get out of your way. And for whatever reason, I didn't feel confident on any of those, like, seven to 12 footers that I've been making all week. And I've been making, you know, four weeks before that, too. And so that pot for a year, and as soon as I saw it, I was just like, man, this is going in. And I looked up, and it was about 15 feet away. and I knew it was in the whole time, and I did a little, I don't fist pump, I don't show a ton of emotion,

but I did that little cocky walk. And immediately afterwards, I was like, hopefully that didn't look, you know, too bad on TV. But, you know, that just gave me a lot of confidence knowing that I had a shot to play with. And fast forward to 17, that T-shots, I hit a cut with my driver. And so that bunker in the hazard right or just left of the bunker kind of comes in for me. So in my mind, I was like, you know, Chris, you like three-wood or, driver and he was like I love driver and I was like all right that said driver I wanted it three wood and keep it short of that bunker but you know the back right pin so I was like man this

is this is this is a situation that you've dreamed about your whole life let's just let's just try and stack up and it was the best two shot of my life you know right down the middle and and it set up a pretty easy par going to the last you brush your teeth every single day well at least I hope so you even floss again I hope so but did you know there's another level of oral care you probably do not with arc you can remove stains that lie beneath the surface of your smile arc is a new way to achieve professional level teeth whitening at home for just 30 minutes a day each arc treatment includes dentist approved somebody say this word for me enamel enamel enamel safe whitening strips that adhere to your upper and lower teeth had an r there lurch yes yeah i got so excited with what he was about to say that i just Yes, that's it. Okay. Enamel.

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the confidence that you'd like to be feeling. You had to make a little bit of a tester on the 72nd hold. Did any of that creep in? Or were you just, because it, I mean, you poured it right in. You must have felt pretty confident over it. Yeah, no, the put on the, the putt on 18 was, I was extremely calm. And looking back on that, on my win in Alabama this year, I had the same putt.

It was a five-footer inside left, and I had to make it to get into a playoff. And I remember feeling really calm over that one, just knowing that even if you finish solo second, it's a heck of a week. So, you know, that put on 18, I just, my only goal in the, I think I had 50 feet, something like that, if I needed a two pet. Mark had a, I think Mark had like a 25-footer that he could have made, which means I would have gone to a playoff. But I knew his pot was tough. It's just tough, tough putt to read and get the speed right. I just didn't, I didn't want to leave that lag cut short and leave myself a five-footer downhill, down grain, you know, with those nerves. I told Chris, I was like, let's get aggressive.

You know, if this rolls by three, four, five feet, it's going to be, I'm going to have an uphill put I can be aggressive with. So when the putt came off, I was like, man, that's going to be, I felt like it was going to be dead speed. And I also thought it might go in. And it slud by and just kind of trickled out a little longer than, you know, than I'd hope. but he was a six-footer, dead straight, had no break. And I was thinking about the Masters, honestly. I was thinking about the Masters. I was thinking about the three-year exemption on a PJ Tour.

But those thoughts, in my coach, I work with a mental coach, actually up in Boston, Greg Carton, and he preaches the thoughts don't matter. Thoughts don't hit shots. So if you don't fall prey to your thoughts, then you can kind of get over him. So even though I was thinking, like, I was thinking about the future, thinking about the masters and all this stuff. I was eerily calm. I felt my hands weren't shaking like they were early on the back time.

And as soon as I hit it, but it was one of those paths. I mean, everybody's got into the grain puts on Bermuda where if you can miss hit it a little bit, if you don't start it online into the grain, it's going to miss from six feet. So I looked up, you know, and it was dead center from three feet out, and that's when I kind of dropped the putter.

And, man, it gives me the chills right now thinking about it, just that it was over. I didn't have to hit another shot. It was, you know, and for the rest of my life, I'm going to be, you know, a DJ tour member, which is, man, that's crazy, me too. That is so cool. I love to. I mean, some people are like, no, you know, you can't think about this or that in that moment.

I'm just focused on the pot. You're like, no, no, I was thinking about the Masters. Like, obviously, why wouldn't I be thinking about the Masters? Yeah. Yeah, it's a dream. I mean, that's the thing. But what you just said, that's the reason why people, those thoughts bother them is, because you start beating yourself up.

you like why am I thinking this like tiger doesn't think this Rory doesn't think this but honestly I mean I'd be very surprised if you know they're not thinking about hey man I need to make this put they get in the masters they're already in it but you know people get I mean every every athlete gets nervous I mean but if you can turn those nerves into you know into energy like positive energy and then it's how many times have you had a bad shit bad shot in the driving range like he had a million

like two million times yeah exactly yeah exactly but you could good shots under pressure. You had good shots, you know, on the driving rate. So the whole, like, choking thing, like when people are like, man, he choked. He missed a green and didn't get up and down or he missed a six-footer. I mean, man, you do that every day. Like, you do that on the putting green before the round. So I try not to dive too deep into, you know, bad shots and bad thoughts. If you can just kind of reset, realize that it's normal, there's nothing wrong with you. There's plenty wrong with me. Just not those thoughts. That's not it. That's not what's wrong with me. Yeah, no, that's not the thing that's wrong.

So Greg's been huge to me. His philosophy is super simple, and he's just a real chill guy. He's not your typical mental coach that has like a six-step process of, you know, getting into the moment, getting into the present. He's like, he's a boy. He's like, he's one of the guys you want to kind of hang out with. And he's just really, really good with the mental side, the simplicity. So speaking of Willie Wilcox, anybody out there listening?

go onto YouTube and type in Willie Wilcox, whole-on-one at 17 at Sawgrass in 2016 in the Players' Championship. It's one of the great celebrations for not winning a golf tournament that you'll ever see or Willie. I think it's like the second round. He's using a yellow ball. He hits one right at the flag,

and the whole time, like all of his body language, you can tell, like, all he cares about is that that ball goes in, and when it goes in, he just goes absolutely bananas on the tee. It's awesome. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean, Willie, he's a gym, man. His reactions and his personnel, I mean, we'll go back to 14. I caddied form at the Greenbrier.

And he's one of those guys. He's got like an eight iron to a back right thin, gets to 25 feet. He's like, man, how do you even let me play in this? I'm the worst golfer in the world. Like, I shouldn't even be out here. And then I'm like, dude, that was like, that was a crazy good shot. I would be super stoked with that. But he is a high standard on certain shots.

And then fast forward to Sunday on 16. He's, I don't know, I think he's in like eighth or something. And he's got a sand wedge from a good lie in the rough to a back right pen on 16 at a greenbriar. And right of the green and behind the green, like kind of a fall off collection area. And he hits the sand wedge at the middle of green, like 25 feet. And he starts fistpump. And he's like, fuck yeah. Fuck yeah.

He's like, God, let's go. I'm like, Willie. I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, dude, if I hit that, if I hit that ball right of the green or over the green, I'm making triple. And I'm like, dude, this is literally a sandwich. Like 99% chance no matter how nervous you are, you're hitting the green from here. You're not going to hit it long right.

It wasn't a jump or anything. And so just Willie's the most entertaining guy in the world. I love him to death. But it's been so fun seeing, like, caddying for him that week at the Greenbrier changed my career because I saw, like, he just, of course, 40 minutes before the tea time. He'll hit, like, two putts, like five footers, you know, miss him. me, he'd be like, oh, my God, he's like, what am I doing wrong? And then he'll grab the putter and he'll make one.

He's like, no, dude, I figured it out. I'm good. I'm good. He'll hit, like, six puts and then go shoot 65. And then we didn't hit balls after the round one time that week. We just left and he finished fourth. So being inside the ropes, you know, watching him just put on a clinic and not overthink it, that was, that put a light bulb on, you know, that turned a light bulb on for me that

I don't have to, I don't have to, so many mini tour players and even guys, and even guys, on quarantine tour, they just try way too hard. You know, they think they need to, they think they need to hit balls for eight hours every day. They think, you know, if I want to be successful, I have to be perfect and all this. And Willie's a perfect example of just going out. And as he would say, he just goes out in Yules. That's his term. I love that.

Didn't that too? I mean, wasn't that, I believe you said that financially that was a time of your career, like having caddying for Willie and other things like that are kind of what kept your career alive even financially, right? Yes, I had a, you know, I had so many people, like people in my hometown help me out, give me five grand here or there to keep you going. But going into that greenbara, I missed six cuts in a row on e-golf tour, which is off the bat. That's $1,500 entry fee. All my credit cards were maxed out.

I had $176 in my bank account, and I had no room on any of my credit card. So anybody that's ever asked multiple people for years for money to, you know, kind of keep their dream alive, it's the worst feeling in the world having to rely on other people. And so when he finished fourth, he made 227 grand. He cut me a check for 17,000. I just come off six straight miscuts on a mini tour. And I go on Monday. I do my state open qualifying.

I shoot 64. I didn't touch a club in a week. But that day, I mean, I felt like a millionaire. I felt like, you know, I felt like I'm, you know, I felt like I was fine for, for a change. And I went and played an e-golf event that week at Irish Creek and outside Charlotte, and I finished six. And it was like, how do I go for missing six cuts in a row and then cadding for a week? And then I go shoot 64 in a Monday qualifier and then shoot, you know, I don't know, 15, 17 under,

something like that to finish six. And I give all the credit to Willie. He gave me – he didn't have to let me caddy. and that 17 grand 100% changed my life. Well, now, I mean, last week you won $1.35 million. How much does that change things for you? It's crazy. I mean, honestly, it feels like me and my caddy were joking.

It feels like we just stole something. We just robbed the bank. It just doesn't seem right. It's pretty cool that I can, my caddy made $136,000, 137,000, something like that. You know, for him, that's huge. It's just, you know, the most. The money is amazing, but honestly, because I can do a lot of good with it, too. You know, I'm going to, I'm going to take care of my mom.

She's, you know, she's been raised four kids on a teacher's salary. And I just, I've never had money, so I don't, it's not going to change me at all. I'm excited about the three-year exemption and all the, you know, the big terms I've always dreamed about. But hopefully, hopefully I can do some good with that money. Obviously, I'm my coach, my longtime coach, Steve Prater, he never, never, never, charged me in 17 years. The day my dad passed away, he gave me a full membership at Black Country Club, which felt like a gust of me. I grew up playing on a nine-hole muni that was

2,700 yards. So when he gave me that membership, and it hasn't charged me in 17 years, I was like, man, starting this P.J. Tourist, and I'm like, Steve, I'm putting you on payroll. You know, you're getting 1% of everything I make, and you're getting, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it was a good start for us and uh so i gave him a bonus to 25 grand for if i won a pj tour event and so that put i made on 18 you know obviously that 25 grand would go away so that pot was actually if i'd missed the put i think i would have he would have made maybe 7 000 and i made it and he made you know 25 grand plus you know so he made it 30 he made over 38 grand so that put on 18 was it was worth 32 grand for him which uh man that's when i write him that check

after RSM, that's going to be, that's going to be the easiest check I've ever written in my life, and it's going to be, you know, we've talked about it a couple times, but he's just, Steve Prater's, you know, he's the greatest guys in the world. You know, I was glad we got into it because, you know, you do have, you have an emotional background, and it was, they did a good job kind of talking about it and, and presenting and setting the stage on the broadcast and all of that, but even to hear you talk about it, I mean, it's like almost getting emotional in here. It's really, really cool, and it does speak to the fact that, I don't know that everybody knows that it does in a lot of cases.

Like it takes a village, and there's a lot of people that helped you out. And so it's really cool to see. And obviously, it's very obvious that it means a lot to you and that you're genuinely excited to be able to kind of pay people back in any way that you can. So it's a really cool thing to hear, man. It's awesome. Yeah, that's been the coolest part. Like, people have sent me videos.

I'm a best friend's dad. He had a party in the garage. his big man came there and there was like 10 or 12 people in there and they're all screaming and freaking out and when the pot went in and seeing that joy that you know this whole village helped raise me seeing the joy that like I put back I mean that choked me out it's it's cool to see that they one day believed in me and the more money you make it it's it's almost like it's hard to part way with five grand you know it's hard to you know throw a 22 year old here man here's five grand do whatever you want with it's like

I mean, that'd be hard for me. So having that many people believe in me and when I don't even believe in myself, it's God, I mean, we're having a party on Thursday, and a lot of those people are going to be there, so we're going to, it's going to be fun celebrating. I got the trophy from Houston. They're shipping it. They had to engrave it. I didn't get to take it home with me, but they're going to ship it to Blackscare on Thursday.

Just to be able to celebrate with, you know, this whole group of people that have made it possible for me is, I mean, it's crazy. Very, very cool. Well, let's finish up by looking. forward. You obviously talked a little bit about we've talked about the masters, the players, like all the different things that you get into. You've talked before about how you've sort of

kind of looked at maybe some of the things you did wrong as like playing too much. So how difficult is it now building out a schedule where you have all these options you can play and basically all the great tournaments in the world? How tricky is it and kind of what's the process like building out of schedule for the next year? Yeah. So,

Todd Anish has been my coach for four or five years. down here in Florida. I work with him and Steve. And we sat down. We had a lesson on Thursday for an hour. And so we started talking. We ended up just looking at schedule for almost an hour and looking at all that stuff. And that's

going to be tough. But the cool thing about this is I have basically a three-year exemption now. I can take some time off. I don't have to play every single week now to try and get into the next week. So obviously Century starting two weeks in Hawaii is going to be awesome. I'm going to be able to

my goal is not to play more than five in a And I'm not going to be that guy that's going to be like my only focus is the majors because that'd be a lie. I'm going to, the majors are going to be amazing. But I know, I still want to, you know, I'm still somewhat of a nobody in my mind. So I want to be, I want this wind to kind of motivate me to, you know, to kind of prove myself that this wind wasn't a fluke, right? And I did that twice on the, on the cornsbury tour. After both my wins, I played well after that. So we're just going to try and get a schedule that I can conserve energy.

and hopefully, you know, play courses that set my eye now. But, like, thinking about playing Riviera, playing Bay Hill, playing Memorial, waste management, waste management mid-dream on 16, getting, you know, guys screaming at me on the T-box on 16. I mean, that's awesome to me. So, you know, the plan is going to be, you know, kind of stay fresh, but I really want to make it to East Lake. Eastlake is my new goal because I get you into all the majors,

get you in all the WGCs. And so we're going to do everything we can. I think I'm five or 600 points away, probably 600 points away from locking up Eastlake. So if I can lock up East Lake before the playoff start would be, you know, that's number one goal now. Is there any, who is kind of your, some of your golf idols or some of the biggest guys you look up to?

Like, is there any one moment that you're sort of looking forward to with excitement or nervousness of, like, seeing Tiger on the practice? the screen at like the Masters or Rory on the T at the players or Phil or whatever. Like what kind of what would be or what would be your biggest like, holy shit, I'm pretty starstruck moment out there. Yeah, what would you think? What would be your one?

I think C and Tiger and Augusta would be off the charts. Yeah. Yeah, no. I mean, just being Tiger, I mean, obviously a couple of my buddies were like, dude, if you win Augusta, Tiger is going to put the green jacket on you, which is a chance is that happens. or obviously not the best, but I mean, holy shit. I mean, sitting on 18 green or in the cabin, whatever, and Tiger putting a green jacket on you,

like even thinking that's even possible is an absolute joke to me. But if I got to play with Tiger this year, I'm not the guy that's going to go see Tiger in the locker room, but hey, man, can you get a picture? Like, I feel like I got to earn it. So if I play with him and we go along and he doesn't hate me, then I'll get a picture with him. But Tiger's been my number one idol since day one.

I mean, I love the guy to death or everything he's done for golf. And I just seeing him, I mean, you see him, he looks like a fictional character. When you walk by him, it's like you feel like you know him too. Like, I want to go to Tiger and just be like, hey, what's up, dude? Like, how's everything going? Like, because I've seen, I mean, everybody hears every press conference, every round, every shot he's ever hit. So it's weird when you see a superstar like that in your idol because you feel like you know him,

which you do, but he, I mean, he doesn't know you from, you know, from the guy next to you. So, Tiger is obviously number one, number one for me. Adam Scott's always been, you know, his golf swing and, you know, being a tightless guy. And I just, you can't, you can't not watch Adam Scott swing a golf club without being jealous and being like, why didn't I, why wouldn't I born with, you know, that ability? So my buddy, John Lamani, caddies for Adam. He's a good friend of mine. And so hopefully I can get a practice around with Adam.

I know Adam's a super nice guy. But, you know, those two are, you know, those guys are pretty cool. But I want to throw a little bite in for Bryson. I play with Bryson at Silverado, Napa. And Bryson's a good dude. So he was way different than I thought he'd be. He's super nice of the fans. And a pretty cool dude to begin with.

Obviously, he's got his work ethic, like he said, golf's work and all that. But, you know, Bryson could have been any nicer or any more fun to play with. That's great to hear. We, you know, we, Bryson, we've gone to bat for Bryson many times because he's always been super nice to us. He's always given us the time of day. And whenever we've seen him at tournaments, like you said, he's great with the kids,

he's interacting with the fans and all that. And, you know, I got a feeling, Adam Scott, Tiger. I mean, you, you know, you're a recent winner on the PJ tour. So now you're in a position where a lot of these things can come true. And I love that your friends kind of remind me, like, of my friends where they're like, yo, dude, if you win the Masters, like, they're going to, I love that's the first thing you're thinking about.

It's not like, hey, you'll get to go to the Champions Dinner every year and you'll get to play in the tournament. You'll be a master's champ. They're like, hey, if you win the Masters, you'll be close to Tiger Woods for like five minutes and bud and Kevin. I'll cool with that. Yeah, I'll probably be like, man, you mind if I get your number? You're like, no, you're not getting my number. But no.

Just take the green jacket, dude. You're not getting my number. Yeah, yeah, that's fine with me. But just, I don't know, if I got to play with Tiger this year or next year or something like that, it would just be, I probably wouldn't, I would talk to him, but I'd probably be so, like, star-struck. I wouldn't even be focused on my own game. I'll just be, like, watching them. and having the first, you know, first row seat to, you know, spectacle. It's funny.

Our buddy, Matt Parsiali, who was the low AM in the U.S. Open at Shinnecock last year, you know, he played that same year. He played a practice round on Wednesday with Tiger. And he was like, he couldn't have been nicer. We were chit-chat and he was awesome. Like, it's so surreal that I played nine holes with Tiger. And then when we were talking with Jake Owen, who we had on the show. And he's like, man, I got out to Augusta with a couple members.

And I walk onto the practice screen, on to the practice screen, walked Tiger Woods. and he's like for like 20 minutes we all putted right next to each other he only like two or three people on the putting green he's like he didn't look up or even acknowledge us once so it's like you never you never know I kind of want both of those experiences like I wanted to be nice and friendly I also wanted to be the fucking Terminator and not even know that I exist exactly exactly and that but you look at Tiger like I mean I qualify for Shinnon Cox at the US Open and my girlfriend you know in line to get coffee I was out playing or something and she said

Tiger was just trying to get coffee and go play he was about to go tee off and he had to sign four autographs and take you know two or three pictures and he was just trying to get he was just trying to get a cup of coffee and get going so it's like and that was an end player dining um so it's like can you imagine what that guy goes through every day he can't even get a cup of coffee without having to sign autographs and take pictures and so i mean mad respect for him how well he handles it and and that that reason right there is you're not going to catch me walking up to him on the putting green asking for an autograph i mean how embarrassing would that be to begin with, but if I play with him, if I get to play with him,

I mean, 100% I'm going to try and get a picture after the round. I know he's, you know, he's, he's way more approachable when you're in a circle or if you play with him or something like that. He just can't, I mean, he can't be that accommodating or he'd never be able to do anything in his life. He would just be signing autographs and taking pictures and, you know, for the rest of his life. So, yeah, I totally understand that whole, that whole tiger in the own, you know, you're nobody to me type deal. He has to be like that. So I'd respect him. So when you teeing it up again? That's good question. I've heard, I want to be ready for Bermuda. RSM's got this birdies for love campaign where if you're leading birdies after the fall, you

win $300,000 for charity. So when I was deciding whether I was going to go play Bermuda, one, I didn't want to take four weeks off before Myakoba and RSM. But when I heard about this 300 grand. That's all the motivation I need. If I can, if I can win 300 grand and donate that to local charities or the Astros Foundation to help kids, I mean, that would be a dream for me. So I'm going to play Bermuda. I'm probably going to get back to it on Friday. Luckily, my coaches and I, we've kind of built my game to where I don't have to practice all the time now. My swing thoughts and everything are real simple. I just work on tempo and keeping my keeping my head up on the down ceiling.

So I've always dropped back and gotten narrow. So I don't feel like I need to grind, you know, as much as I used to, you know, to be competitive. So if I get back to it on Friday, hopefully play Augusta on Saturday or Sunday, and then I'll head to Bermuda on Tuesday and I'll be back to, you know, obviously back to work. Sounds like a hell of a time to be alive. Lato Griffin, you seem like a really good dude. I'm sure he picked up a ton of fans here today. and we appreciate you doing the show, 2019 Houston Open winner.

Congratulations, and hopefully run into you soon out there, my friend. Yeah, man, look for me. It's pretty cool to be on your show, and I'll keep following you, boys. All right, man. Congrats again. Thanks for doing it, and hopefully run into you soon. All right, man. Thanks for having me.

Take it easy. Have a good one.