Fore Play - “It was happening... and then it wasn’t” - Carnoustie Recap

Episode Date: July 24, 2018

British Open reaction. We were live at a watch party and losing our minds as “it” was happening before our eyes. And then it was all sucked out of us. We discuss everything that happened at Carnoustie and take a few From The Galleries. The best tournament in years has us feeling all kinds of different ways. What a time to be alive! You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Myself, Slim Daddy Trent, Frankie Burley, the pizza maker, gentlemen. Hello. Hello. How are we doing? Oh. I'm good.

I'm good. I think I'm good. I'm okay. In the moment, and we all watched it together, we had the watch party. We all watched it together. And it was devastating in the moment, obviously. But when you zoom out, it's going to be fine. But you do wonder how many more chances he's going to get.

I think he's going to get a bunch. But it sucks to see him let one of those escape his grasp because he had it. There's a lot to talk about. We've been on radio today. We've been in blogs. The last 24 hours, we've taken it from your father, Frankie, Dave. He's been chirping at everybody. So there's a lot to get.

get to. There's just a ton to get to. Probably the most exciting tournament, really, if you think about the pedigree of the leaderboard, the tournament, the course, the venue, the wind, the way it picked up, the way Sunday was unfolding, maybe the most exciting tournament since Tiger's 2008 win at Torrey Pines, which, big shout out to my good friend USGA. They put up a video on YouTube that is like it's like almost an hour long incredibly professionally done production called like it's called US Open Epics and it's like Tiger versus Rocco

and it's a full reliving of the whole thing it's outrageous how good it is you're just all boned up watching that oh my god I would be too it's on a couple people started tagging me on it it just appeared out of nowhere I don't know what how you just appear and if you go to the USGA's YouTube page I think that's the best place to find That's where I found it

And you watch this Like whatever you're going to watch on Netflix tonight Just cancel it and go watch this It is I mean I got chills I'm gonna watch it every night I have the chills just thinking about What the video probably looks like

And feels like On the there's like drone footage Of the cliffs There's like intense music All kinds of like Bob Costas is doing all kinds of commentary Rocco's doing all kinds of commentary And then they like

Mix it in with like Stevie Williams Is in like a bar by himself having a beer talking to the camera. Oh my God. But it's like the camera's a little darker, you know? So it's just, it's awesome. But anyways, as intense, maybe the most intense tournament and most exciting tournament with so many moving pieces that I can remember.

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Remember we were talking like he's just like this mythical guidance, grandfather? type figure. We went out there one of the days you and I rigs on, I think it was the Friday, and he was wearing all white, and he looked like an angel walking around. He was the guardian angel of the president's up because angels are dead. Right. Right. Angels are fucking dead.

You don't want to be an angel. You want to be, like, in real life and existing and all that. Then he comes out with these videos, right? And he's hitting stingers in his videos. He's then shows up at the Bahamas. Shot a lobster. We're getting tweets about his progress. Like Tiger has now gripped the golf club.

And, like, we're going nuts for a week. Tiger has now fixed his back swing. We're going nuts. I had forgotten about the videos that he used to just put out Like out of the clouds. Remember that? He just started putting up videos of his swing and people were like One slow motion swing and we're like holy fuck like I got immediately go into the bathroom and like do my business like I would like Correct I'd be out to dinner. I'd be doing it and I'd see the video pop up and I'd be like excuse me Remember one time too he just he posted it one time he was like wearing like his Sunday outfit On the golf course like by himself just hitting drivers on the 18th T and you're like holy shit So think about all of that

And then Tori Pines He like made the cut and like sneaked his way towards like the top 30 And then all of a sudden at the Valspar He almost won the fucking Vass Bar Came up one stroke short Battled his way back at the Masters after not a great showing But like showed that he could make some birdies on the weekend And then I mean you think about the players championship

You think about the AT&T The Quigand Lone's National I mean the other the other week where he was Looked like he was going to win that tournament The Memorial he held the lead for a minute at the morial he's an obie shot at bay hill from yeah i mean roaring went off yeah but he was close there too he's got all these great moments and then we're coming in we're building up to carnoosety khanusti as i like to say nice and all of a sudden everybody's like well this is probably his best

chance to win a major um it's four out of six or whatever the number is of the last champions have been in their 40s tigers 42 the greens are slower so if you got a little nerve or a little struggles uh some struggles in your putting game that's going to help out Hank Haney, picks Tiger to win. Brandel Schambly, our guy, picks Tiger to win. So you're thinking, well, holy shit, what's going on here? The course is baked out. He doesn't have to hit many drivers.

His driver's the scariest club I've ever seen anyone pull. We're talking about that, but even at the bar yesterday, I mean, every time he pulled driver, everyone got down on, like, one knee at the bar. We're like, oh, my God. I could not believe Shambly picked him to win. That's not something I thought Brandel would do. He's a very calculated guy. He's a very smart guy.

I'm not saying that Tiger was a bad pick, but when Shambly picked him, That's when my real excitement started. Haney's one thing. Sometimes he might just do that just to get people all riled up, which I appreciate. But Shambly got me very excited for the week, picking Tiger. And Brandl came on this very show before Tigers return. The week before Tiger's first return in the Bahamas and all of that, Brandl came on this very show and said, look, you know, from what I've seen in the swings,

he looks good. I've heard he's really healthy. He said he will definitely not win again, is pretty much what he said. That is what he said. He said there's just no way. There's too many obstacles. He said the chipping yips. He said the back.

He said, and if he gets over all of that, he's had the bad swing the last couple of years, mental, all these issues. He said, there's just no way. I hope I'm wrong, blah, blah. Then he evolved and said, look, from what I've seen, this is significantly better. I change my prediction. I think now he can win. So the point I'm trying to make is that Brandl is not some guy that just comes out and sucks Tiger's dick all time.

Tiger fucking hates the guy because he's very harsh and all that. So when Brandel picked him, you're right, Trent. It was like, well, holy shit. What is going on here? I told myself, he's going to win. He's going to win. So Thursday comes around. He starts two under through four.

And, I mean, he buries the first hole. He buries the fourth hole. Ripped a driver on two, which is a very difficult driving hole. Rips a driver on six, which is Hogan's alley, the par five. He's got an eight iron in to the sixth hole par five. He's two under through five holes. And you're thinking he's going to, he might. I honestly, it crossed my mind.

Like, what if he shoots 22 under par? and wins by 20 shots. I mean, KT tape is then the most popular sports enhancement. The KT tape, I forgot about the KT tape. I would have sold out in every store. I think it probably did anyway. Darren Ravelle had some tweets about how much more business they got over the week. Imagine, I mean, imagine if he had just like come out and taking a 10-shot lead.

So it was a weird start because he comes out like an hour and a half before his tea time. He's got the KT tape on his neck everyone. And it's like, it's put on poorly, I would argue, because like it looked like shit. It was like a little crooked and like... Well, so you're thinking... It made him look more robotic than he's ever looked, which is impossible. But, I mean, he showed up with just like tape all over his body. So you're thinking

like, what the fuck is going on? And they also said, it might have been Tiger who said it that this is just the first time that you could see the tape. So apparently he's been putting this tape on that's been on his body. But he didn't say that until after. Right. We didn't fucking know that. But it made me think that he sometimes is out there just completely taped up

under there and we just can't see it. And it's just one time we saw it come above the surface. And we all had an absolute panic attack. Well, of course. I mean, the guy's coming off the last five years of injury after injury after injury. That's really the biggest scare, even though we don't talk about it that much anymore because the fusion, he looks so fucking good with the fusion. Then he shows up with the tape and you're like, oh, my God, like all this hype.

We thought he's going to win it. He's not going to be able to play. He's got the tape. Then he tees off. He hits his first tee shot. I could have sworn he winced like it was the 2008 U.S. opening. That is a moment that'll be forgotten in history that Riggs and I will always remember. We were sitting here at Barstool, watching him tee off, and he hits it, and he wins it.

and he winces, and apparently he got some sort of dirt in his eye, but at that moment, we thought it was all over. I thought it was over. I mean, he's not even going to finish the first off. If you're doing the math, you have the tape, then you have the wince. Yep. And then the next spot is knees to the ground. Yep.

I thought that was next. And the T shot was good, so we're like, he's not mad about the shot. What is he mad about? And we're like, it's his back, it's his neck. It's all over. And I could have sworn he walked gingerly over that little bridge thing to the first T. I was like, he looks a little, I don't know. And then he wince.

and I was like, we're fucking. I mean, it's over. And then he's 200 through four. And then you're thinking, what's going on? But then he ends up not making par, or not making birdie on the par five, six. He makes a couple bogies coming in. He grinds for an even par. And you're kind of like, okay, I guess we'll take that.

Friday comes out looks terrible. He's two over early in the round. Then he gets back to back birdies. And then he gets it to one under. And you're thinking like, holy shit, somehow we're going to finish under par. ends up missing a very makeable birdie put on the 18th, which even that, when he missed that, it felt like this is just like not our week.

But hey, he's only, what, I guess at that point, he was six shots back? Yeah, we had talked about going into the tournament that we needed him to be in some sort of reach to the leaders going into the weekend because every single time in this past, you know, this new recovery that he's been doing, he's like just not,

he just is too far away going into Saturday in Sunday. Like we reach for it to be close, but he's just not close. Yeah, he's just like, all right. Yeah, he's minus two, but the leader's like minus 12. Like, all right, Tiger's playing well, but he's not even close. Or they're like, he's within a couple shots of leaders, but the leaders haven't teed off yet. Yeah, exactly. And there was so much of that. So to see him, you know, battle on Friday and get back to some sort of striking distance. And we knew Carnusie was going to be tough on the weekend. So seeing him battle on Friday was like, I was starting to be like, okay, we're going to watch some golf this weekend. But it still, it felt like he wasn't making the putts. It wasn't

that is statistically his putting wasn't bad but it was he had that three putt on the par three after he hit a pretty good shot in there close and he three jacks from like 25 feet he had the missed put on the 18th and you're just thinking like man like he's gonna win this tournament he's got to make those it just doesn't feel right blah blah and then Saturday I mean he goes fucking crazy on Saturday by the time the leader's like they haven't even teed off yet in a tough fucking golf course and tigers tied for the lead he's six under bar and you're like what is happening it's Saturday morning okay early as first

fuck over here in the U.S. on the East East Coast. Maybe you got like a transfusion, maybe a breakfast sandwich, maybe an ice coffee, something like that. You haven't even woken up yet. Tiger's like four under on the front nine. Okay. He made a bomb at what, nine?

He made a bomb at nine, then hit one to like an inch on ten. And you're sitting there going like, am I, is this happening? Like, I think this is actually happening. It started off tough too because he made a really lengthy par save on one where you're like, Fuck, this could be like not a great day. And speed fucking ended up eagling that hole. Yeah. Yeah, he got, yeah, hit it on the green with the drive.

He drove it. Drove the green. Yeah. So you see Tiger just par save and you're like, eh. But then he just, he's been doing this though. This year, the Saturdays, he's got, he's got the lowest average on tour for Saturdays. Yeah, he does. It's like 68.

So you knew he could do something and the course was playing a little easier than the previous couple of days. And he really took advantage of it. It happened so quick. One of my buddies I was texting with, we were all in group chats and one of my friends who's not really the biggest Tiger fans. So I always like to dig it in whenever Tiger's doing the best. Yep. You know, it just happened.

If you look at my text messages, it's like Tigers minus two, Tigers minus three. Tigers minus four. Tigers minus five. Like what is going up? And he's like at the gym. He's like, I don't fucking care. He's not going to win. It's like, Tigers minus six.

What do you don't care? Is anyone watching this? Right. The past 20 minutes, Tiger just became the best girlfriend in the world again. It was one of those things where I got up, I know all this got up early and probably watched. But the people who got up at like 10, 10, 10.30 on Saturday just woke up to Tiger like 500 me. It was hard for me to wake up, but I did. My eyes were barely open. I didn't wake up the right way. I didn't like get up early. Drink a cup of coffee because I don't drink coffee. I've never drank a full cup of coffee in my life. I drink like he's stunning. I know. You're a child. It is stunning. I mean, I worked at the restaurant my whole life. So I always had very late days. So I never really need to wake up and, you know. All my classes in like college were always late. I was never a morning person. It's not that you even look like a boy. Like you are a boy. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what. Thanks for calling me a boy. A lot of people. Thanks for calling me a boy. A lot of people.

call me a female. They call you a lesbian. Yeah, a female trying to look like a man. Or they call you a pizza boy. Pizza boy. In like a demeaning way. But mostly the lesbian.

I think you get that one. You should try some coffee. It might change you like, I drink this like, I mean, no free ads, but it's like a vanilla frepa or something from down the block. Okay. From down the block.

Nice. Yeah. No free ads. No fucking free ads on this show. I mean, you can probably assume what's down the block. They're fucking everywhere. There's a couple of them.

Yeah. You never know. But yeah, you wake up, so you didn't wake up right. I just like I was laying in bed are so fucking heavy and like I'm looking through I wear contacts I'm looking through like dirty glasses that I only wear when I'm like really tired in bed and I want to see the TV and I'm like is Tiger like look this I was like scratch my eyes it was like a scene out of a movie I'm like what the fuck's going on right so I like jumped up out of my bed I like washed put some like cold water

in my face and I just sat in front of my TV I sat on the floor at the end of my bed on the floor just in front of the TV like when you're looking at a cartoon I'm picturing you in when you're looking at a cartoon and a little kid has like just like the huge eyes looking up at the TV and his eyes are coming out of his head and his TV screens just draw on a little You're a wee character Yeah I've heard this

And your dad's like don't sit so close to the TV Frank Well there was none of that But I could assume so Yeah Because you're a child Yeah I don't know why I took that part I mean we're clearly just like

Making some stuff up And you said something trying to be funny I was like no I didn't happen It's okay As if my eyes actually came out of my Yeah But yeah it was just one of those moments where it's like, all right, do I really have to wake up?

Because we are so used to Tiger right now. This new Tiger, we talk about it all the time. We're just to have all these expectations of him being old Tiger and he just doesn't come through. So, like, I was like, do I really want to fucking do this right now? Wake up at 8.30 in the morning. Is he going to fucking rip my heart out? And my God, did he not rip my heart out on Saturday at least? Saturday, he was, it was as exciting as anything that we've seen, especially because, like you said,

it didn't get him back into the tournament. It got him in contention. He was leading. for the lead. You knew the guys were going to shoot some low numbers because the course was playing easier. But still, once he got it to six, he ended up making a bogey finishing with a five under 66. The leaders, they ended up posting nine under.

It was what, Shafley, Speeth, Kiz, all posted nine under. You put out that blog, had people guess what the score had to be on Saturday for being contentioned. What did you, what did you say with like 67? I thought he needed to have a chance on Sunday. I thought he needed to shoot a 67. And the most common answer, like Wesley Bryan responded 67. I think Alan Shepnuck from golf.com responded 67.

He shot 66. I also don't think people thought the course were going to play as easy as it played, right? So like if he were to shot 67, but the course played its normal difficulty, like he probably would have only been two or three strokes back. But instead he shot 66. he was four strokes back. And even then, even then, when he's four strokes back, you're kind of looking to the leadboard

and you're thinking like, yes, he's not out of it, but he kind of needs some help because, like, Speed is a fucking machine. Kiz was playing great and putting lights out. Shafley is he won the Tour championship last year. He's a young stud. Moly and Ari's been playing great. Like all these guys that are right there.

Rory was right on the Torstep. Justin Rose was, like, right, not right behind him. So you're thinking, like, not only, it was just like, I legitimately thought he had no chance, going in four strokes back. Like you said, and they knew the wind was going to pick up on Sunday, so you thought it was going to be difficult to score. And then early on, I don't know if you remember this, Johnny Miller said early on Sunday was like, I doubt anybody's going to make four birdies today. And it's like, okay, well, fuck, now I really don't feel good about our chances, but it turned out. See, that made me feel better.

It did. Yeah, because if the leaders can go out there and shoot one under even or something pretty easily, like Tiger's out of it, I feel like. But if the weather picks up and Tiger is playing such a conservative game plan, then he doesn't have to do anything magical to have a chance, right? Because it's like if the course was playing like it played on Saturday, he has to post like six or seven under, which is very, very, very difficult. Whereas if the course is playing significantly harder, he's got to shoot maybe two, three under and he's got a chance.

It's kind of how I went into it. So I was jacked up when Johnny Miller was like, he said he's like I'm really looking at that group at five under he was like I think those guys if those guys can post a score of like six or seven hundred he's like I think that might win the tournament um and johnny obviously being the best in the business was pretty fucking spot on um so tiger comes out and we all so we all go to the bar shout out to the ainsworth shout out to all the stooys and the platrons and the listeners that came awesome time um we really got to mix it up with a good amount i'd feel bad we didn't get to mix it up with everyone because shit got so intense that we had to man our stations Right? It kind of felt like it was going to be like, we'll have a fun, like leisurely, have a couple drinks. Tiger, maybe he'll make a couple pots. We'll see how exciting it gets where. It escalated instantly.

It escalated so quickly that like we couldn't just be hanging around chatting. Like, we were on our computers. We were tweeting. We're talking about merch. Like, holy fuck, everything is happening. We're making Hags pull up old clips of people who have talked shit about Tiger in the past. Doing a lot of that. So, Sunday, Tiger comes out, okay?

He's two under through six. And at this point, not only is he two under through six, which, is great, right? I mean, if the leaders were still at 9 under and Tiger's at 7, it's like, okay, maybe he's kind of climbing back, this is very exciting. People are fucking collapsing like Phil Mickelson at Wingfoot all

around him. I mean, everybody's making doubles. Kiz is in the bunker, fucking all day long on two. Speeth, fucking Tiger ruined his brain so much. Oh my God. Tiger just took the top of Spieth's head open as if he was something out of Westworld, where you can

just turn him off, and he just reprogramed his data to just be like his little puppeteer. Like he was, he was just, he just did whatever he could do to just get into Spee's head. I mean, I mean, Spieth, speed hit a three wood from the gallery. That was one of the craziest things I've seen. Tiger was minus, Tiger was minus two for the day. Steve must have just like heard the, heard the roars. It was like, holy fuck, I'm on a par five right now.

First of all, speed had no chance of making this par five and two, and he pulls out a three wood from the gallery. There's like people's like Fricking footprints and everything all over And he pulls out of three with everyone's like What is he doing? He totally mishits it now he's in more trouble I'm like why doesn't he just put it out into the fairway And then just do Jordan speed things like just make a par

Like you don't have to make a birdie right there And then every time they cut to Shafley he was in a bunker as well Just like he goes one foot in one foot out like I don't know what's going on now That was the thing we were rooting for carnage above him And every time the camera went on someone that was above Tiger And on the leaderboard they just showed them in unbelievably difficult spots.

It was like standing fucking backwards with like the club over their head. You're like, what is happening? Every time we saw a ball in the air, we're like, get in the rough. And it just did. It was crazy. The best part two at the bar was like that tiger would make a big like five footer for par or something. And then the screen like it swipes across sideways and shows the next person. The person would be in a bunker and the whole bar would go crazy.

Yeah, yeah. And we were at the bar, we were analyzing everyone's reaction because obviously you can't really tell what, especially at a bar setting. You can't tell exactly what, where the ball's going, right? rely on just like the players either verbal reaction or they're like, you know, what they're doing with their eyes or their body. And we were just watching Speed just like every time he'd make contact, he'd close his eyes and look down and we'd go nuts. We'd go nuts. We don't even know where the ball is.

He hates it. He hates it. He hates it. He hates it. So not only was Tiger 2 under and looking like a machine, he looked unflappable. He looked like the way that he had looked to win so many majors, which is when he goes out there on Sunday and most almost every major he's won. He doesn't do magical shit. He just is unflappable when everyone else is caving and there's pressure. All that intimidation, it was happening. On the front nine, it was happening. Jordan Smith, this back and forth with Michael

Goreller, they asked him if he saw a leaderboard, saw what Tiger was doing. He said, yeah, I saw it on maybe number seven or eight green. It was an accident. I looked up and I saw Tiger at number one and he was leading solo and I went to Michael. Damn it. I looked at the board. I looked at the dude. I was frustrated at myself. Michael's like he hasn't been in this position in 10 years and you've been here how many times in the last three years. I was like, I feel fine, it's okay. This is what you dream

about anyway. That's straight out of a movie. You look up, you just see Tiger Woods just alone at the top. And your reaction to your caddy is, damn it, dude. I looked. I looked. Right. Because that's, that means that they've been talking about the whole round, they're like, don't look at the It's as if there's one of those spinning things in the sky and, like, you can't look at it because you're just going to get

hypnotized. And you're just like, don't look. look into it, don't look at it, and then you just lock guys with it, and you're like, dead. No, you're like, fuck, I'm such an idiot. That was what Tiger did to Speath. He broke his brain, he broke his golf ability. Speeth posted as 76. I believe that's his highest final round score in a major.

We had both Shafley and Kiz and Speath all made a double bogey on the front nine. So now we're at this point where Tiger is fucking seven under. No one else is seven under. There's a couple guys at six, a bunch of guys at six, a couple guys at six, a couple at five tiger looks great he gets up and down a couple times to finish out the front nine then on ten he pulls his iron into that left bunker and you're thinking all right to chip out sideways even if maybe makes a boge he'll still be at six he'll be tied for the lead he fucking swings harder than anyone's ever swung at anything big recoil ball huge recoil towering and you're thinking like just there's a

burn in front of the green you're thinking like that please get over that burn it almost fucking he he's like 20 feet for birdie at that point i honestly at that point I was like it's over like I thought I genuinely thought at that point like it's more likely that he wins by five than that he doesn't win right because if he's making shots like that he can easily just stay his course and just play you know par out and then hit that hit the par five that comes up and you know make another reachable and now you're minus eight and everyone else is falling apart around you everyone's floundering he's at seven and you're thinking okay like he's going to make par here he's going to birdie the 14th so then you'd be at eight and even if he makes one bogey you'll

get in at seven and seven's looking really good right now and 18 was burdiable everybody's ripping it way down there because it was downwind so you're thinking like he might have two birdie opportunities and it was looking awesome we're only not we're only nine holes eight holes away from doing this right it's not like we're on thursday afternoon right this is we are legitimately time-wise an hour and a half from him hoisting the trophy right and at this point again like seven was looking really good everybody even the announcers were like i think i would take seven then the 11th hole He hits one into the Fescue

He hooks one left He says the grass Jumped up and grabs his club They lost control of Fescue Yanks it left Hits a guy I thought that was a great break Actually hit some guy's fucking

Knoggin and then somebody else's phone And like bounces out towards the green You're like oh let's go Tries this hero flop shot Which I cannot believe To this moment that he tried that I honestly think The Bunker Shot on 10

Made him try that flop shot Like as much as we love that shot on 10, that like reminded him. He's like, oh, yeah, I'm Tiger Woods. I can do shit like this. And then the shot on 11, he should just have taken his medicine, taking a bogey and got the fuck out of there. And he tried to do a little, he tried to get a little too cute. You know, he could have just hit a bump and run out to the left of the bunker.

He could have just hit a little pitch out to the left of the bunker, left himself, you know, 15 to 25 feet. Take your medicine and just go. And you're thinking, like, I'm trying to. So I'm trying to decipher what he was thinking. right like because he said when he teed off he thought the number was nine he was like if i get to nine i think i got a really good chance um he was like the wins up there's three guys at nine i think one of them will post even par and we can get into a playoff at nine so at that point he's at seven and i don't if if his number didn't change then he and his brain must have been thinking okay

i have to make par here because i can't get to nine unless i make par but i don't think he's thinking it's still nine at that time once you're ten holes in and then why did he do it i don't know I really don't know. Yeah. So that was really, I thought that was shocking. I guess, like, the other thing I would think, right, is that Tiger, from reading Haney's book, from hearing Tiger speak, Haney talks all the time about, Tiger is actually, like, one of the most conservative players in the history of the game because he plays the percentages. He's a percentages guy. And he very may well in his brain have calculated, like, okay, this shot right here, even if I don't get it on the green, he must have thought, okay, there's a very high percentage.

chance that I get this over that bunker on the green, in which case it'll be pretty close to the hole, even if it's 10, 20 feet past it, it's the same thing as shipping left. And if I leave it short, my short game is so good that I'll get up and down from there anyways. Is what I, like, that's the only other thing I could think and that he just got the very small percentage ended up working out from both angles, from the first shot and from the second shot, or something like that, because it just doesn't make sense for a guy that that's calculating who's that good at winning majors and all that for his, like, brain to malfunction like that under that big of a lot.

I'd love somebody to ask him, like, what was your thought process through that part? It wasn't an unhittable shot. It was a good lie. Right. I mean, he almost got it over the ridge. It didn't, like, go straight into the bunker. It went from the, it went at the top of the bunker, left of it. So, like, it actually, he actually hit it in the right spot.

Right. Just, I mean, they showed it in slow motion. It hit the top of the club face. And he just didn't hit it on the right side of the club face. It just spun immediately once he made contact. And once it hit the ground, it had no chance to come out a little. It did. It did.

So then he makes the double, and that was, I mean, especially because the double was so painful because of how many people were right there. Like that double, he went from first to like ninth because there was so many fucking people there. Whereas like the double doesn't feel like it hurts as much if it's like a two-man race because he can like, whatever, you got to beat one guy. Or when you got to beat like 10 guys that were all within two shots of the lead and then you drop that far down leaderboard, it was devastating. So then he hits another poor three iron off the T on 12, makes another bogey. And then he writes the ship. He plays the rest of the course at 1 under. But once again, he posts a back 9 over par.

He was 2 over par on the back 9. After being 2 under on the front 9, very deflated. He missed that short put on the 18th. Not that it mattered, but it still kind of felt like, you know, whatever. It's a nice way to finish. Finish under par for the day, all that. The energy at the bar after he went double bogey-bogie was tough. Like, I'm used to, you're used to watching it by yourself.

We're like, damn, that hurts. But when you see an entire room full of people realize that it's, over. That's a tough, tough way to go. We were so cute up for victory. We were slinging new shirts. We were pulling up clips of all the haters. We were doing lists. We were like, Trent, get the list out. We were talking to Hegs. We were yelling at Hegs. We were like, Hegs, you need to

find this clip. I know that Dave said this. I know that Big Cat said this. I know that KFC said that. I know All Business Pete said this. Those people should know that we still have those clips. So don't think you got away from seeing those in the future. Our day will come. Our day of reckoning. those people getting what they deserve, it's coming. They know it.

I think they sense it. The haters were out in force yesterday chirping the shit out of us. I don't blame them. I'd be getting my lashes into. Their window's closing. We talked about it on Barstall Radio, Trent Daddy. Their window is closing. Tiger, it's inevitable that he's going to win again.

Everybody knows it. Well, yeah, the tweets that you see have the people who are like, oh, we knew he was going to joke. That's fear. Because the things that we saw this weekend, the 66 on Saturday, him at the number one spot on the leaderboard late into a Sunday. That scares the shit out of people who thought he was dead and gone and wasn't ever going to play golf again. They're terrified.

And I don't blame. After what they saw, again, he has been so close so many times this year. Now he did it in a major championship. He was really two swings away. I mean, those two three irons, if he hits the fairway with those two three irons, I think he wins. But he didn't. So we got a regroup. He got into the Bridgestone somehow.

I'm pretty sure they just rework. They just redid the math. I mean, yeah, because he was at 51 for like an hour and a half. Right. And then all of a sudden, like, oh, Tiger, what is that 50? Welcome to the rich. They're just saying the whole week. They're like, oh, he's got to finish top four.

And then he finishes tied for six. And they're like, yeah, no, he's in. Which, that's how it should be. That's totally how it should be. Good for them. Nobody's questioning it because they shouldn't. They're just like, yeah, obviously, make sure he gets into the tournament. Yeah.

Whoever, who's like 51st, like fucking, you know. Brent Snediker. Right. Like, okay. See you, see you, see a sned. Like you're out, Tiger's in. So he's playing, he'll be playing back-to-back weeks. He's got a week off this week.

They're up in Canada, and then he'll be playing Bridgestone, where he's won eight times. It was a major, though. I know. It's hard. I can't stop thinking about it. When he was on hole 10, I looked up at the TV, I looked at the leaderboard, and I said,

Tiger Woods is leading in a major right now. We are an hour and a half away from watching him win another major. He's on his way to Jack. Everything is, like, coming up in my head, like, it's happening. Holy shit, man. It is happening. That is the best way to think about. That's the devil's advocate of view, right? We're talking about, oh, it's all part of the plan. It's all part of the process. He's looking better. But if you look at it from the other side, the haters are saying, how many more opportunities is he going to get like this? Like he was, like you said, Frankie, leading the tournament late into a Sunday, and then just a couple swings, and it's all over.

You just, you got to wonder how close he's going to get that many times. You know, it's true. It's definitely something you got to think about, especially because this setup perfectly. for him, the golf course, right? He didn't have to hit many drivers. A lot of the PGA venues, he's going to have to hit driver. A lot of the U.S. Open venues, he's going to have to get a hit driver. Although I will say that I was going through with one of my buddies about Pebble Beach next year, where Tiger will be returning for the U.S. Open held by our good friend, USGA.

And I don't think he's going to have to hit a ton of drivers there, actually, at Pebble. There's really only three or four holes where he's going to have to hit driver, depending on the wind and all that. But overall, this type of venue where, again, he doesn't have to hit him. many drivers. The course is playing difficult. It's windy, which helps him because he's such a good iron player, that he can stripe two iron down the fairways. He can stripe irons in the middle of the greens. He can win by making some pars and just birdie in the par fives.

This was it. This was as good a setup as it's going to get. That's why Hank Haney picked him. That's why Brando Schambly picked him. That's why he was tied for the fucking lead on Saturday and leading the golf tournament alone on Sunday. You're right. There's definitely a concern of like, fuck.

Like, did we let a very rare opportunity? opportunity go. The flip side is that, dude, we're building towards something, and this was just part of that process. I'm very much on that side. I would, I think I'm on that side as well. Where's the PGA this year? Bel Reeve in St. Louis. Okay. What kind of course is. So from what I'm hearing, it's very much like Oak Hill, where Duff Daddy won, which is like kind of a ball strikers golf course. It's going to be sort of a classic PGA championship type setup, which is not all that different from a U.S. Open, just a little bit more friendly. But it's going to be narrow. railroad fairways. It's going to be pretty steep rough.

You know, hopefully, St. Louis, that time of year, I'm from St. Louis. Everybody knows. I've never played Belrieve because I was just, I never, I don't think I played a single private country club until after I moved out of St. Louis. So I didn't even really, it was just the course down the street that's like hosted U.S. Open. That's all I knew about it. But I think it's going to be, from what it sounds like, it's probably not the ideal set up for Tiger. Okay. Like, it probably is going to require some very straight drive. driving off the T, and that's not necessarily our guys' forte.

But we'll see. Again, I don't know a ton about the course. A couple guys called into the radio show this morning and talked about it, and that's just kind of what you get at PGAs. I mean, I think that the Masters and the Open Championship are going to be his two best chances pretty much every year, just because those courses, you don't necessarily have to drive it on a string. But we'll see. This was a great chance.

We're going to have more of them. We're feeling good. He's going to be playing back-to-back weeks. He's won at Bridgetown fucking at 5. Firestone eight times, I believe. Yep. So that's a good place for him to go playing golf. I did lie.

I had to just eventually call out the people that were tagging me yesterday an hour after the round being like, hey, Riggs, how come you're not talking about the Tiger qualified for the bridgestone? I'm like, dude, he almost won the fucking British Open. And you want me to be all jacked up that he qualified for the bridge to like, what are you talking about? Get out of here. It's a major. That's not the main focus. How are we even going to, how the other day I was thinking of this, how depressing it's going to be once the PGA is over?

And we don't get another major until the master's. I'd rather not think about that. We do have the Rider Cup, though. Tiger's a lock for the Radical. Oh, yeah. How about, I'm looking at this. Jim Furrick comes out and he's like, well, I'm going to treat Tiger just like any other player. You're not.

No, you're not, dude. Tiger is on the team. He was probably on the team before. I know he was on the team before. I've said this a million times. If Tiger Woods text Jim Furik six months ago and said, I want to play on the Ryder Cup team, do you think Jim fucking Furic is going to say, no, sorry, you're not on the team? Sorry, you're just like everybody else.

Are you fish fucking me? Get out of your Jim Pierich. What are you talking about? Of course he's on the team. So Tiger will be at the Ryder Cup in France and Paris, which will be great. So there's still a ton of... Not shockingly that ratings were crazy for the British Open. So ratings were awesome.

Absolutely fantastic. We had the heat map. The heat map went viral yesterday. I love that thing. I want a heat map for everything. I want it definitely for every Tiger appearance. But yesterday... He lit up the goddamn country.

It was like plutonial. The world. He lit up the world. Places in the world that I don't even know what they are or where they are, but they were just like, buzzing about tiger's huge in india did you see that huge huge india was lit up for tiger when he zimbabwe was had like the most light and it's had in its entire fucking they were buzzing zaz says like his dad's the biggest tiger woods fan on the planet he said all his dad and all his buddies at their country club in zimbabwe they like love tiger uh so it's just the best the ratings

so they tied at a 5.0 overnight rating which tied the 2000 british open at st andrews when tiger and completed the career grand slam. He won by, like, eight shots, I believe. And also tied the 2006 Tiger win at Hoylake when he did, like, one driver the whole week. So ratings were obviously off the charts, which is not surprising. Tiger, you know, we don't have to keep doing this, but Tiger, I mean, you can talk about everybody else. You can talk about Speed, the young crop, DJ, JT, how cool and healthy it is for the game of golf. That's such a bright future.

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He led pretty much the whole fucking way He started out with a five under He was the sole lead People were jumping on the bandwagon Right away people were sending us Kisner's stories left and right I mean there's a sense of disappointment The same as there is for Tiger with Kiz I mean especially for you he's one of your

Close boys and he plays like Swing coach Yeah That brings a swing coach and this guy's like leading the tournament At the fucking open I mean it's some disappointment there Because he really had his chance I mean he started the day with Sunday with a chance Even after his terrible start on Sunday, he came back.

All of a sudden he made like, he holed out for Bertie out of the bunker. And it was like, Kis is tied for the lead. You're like, what? We talk about us a lot because they, I mean, we want it. We want Tiger on the screen all the time. But when there's situations like this where Tiger kind of falls apart for three holes and they're still showing him every single shot. And then all of a sudden they go to someone like Kisner and Kisner is just like in the lead.

We're like, wait a minute. What a minute? We weren't even paying attention. Right. Kisner is now in the league. I thought you withdrew from the tournament because you guys haven't shown anybody about Tiger. My favorite part of the week was when, I think it was on Thursday, Thursday or Friday, when Kisner was leading the tournament and young Pedroes was just aghast that that was a thing. Because he had seen him at Ruff and Rowdy where Kevin Kisner had a very good time, a very good time. Great time.

So quick refresh. Everybody doesn't know, Kevin Kisner's boy fought in Ruff and Rowdy at Morgantown in West Virginia. His boy, Bo, who won. But what happened was Kiz flew his whole crew, right? They're all from Aiken, South Carolina. I always call him a little southern like hillbillies. I don't think they love that, but that's just what they are. They're huge Stoly's.

They're big fans of the podcast. They're awesome. And his boy, Bo is like, I want to fight in Rough and Rowdy because kids and all the crew, they always sit around and watch the rough and rowdy every time. Which, by the way, we have another one coming up. What's the date? August 5th. August 5th.

Pride versus prejudice. Youngstown, Ohio. Yep. Gay Pat's fighting a gay hater. It's right. It's great. It's electric. That's what you want.

Only in Barstall Sports, Matt McAfee on the, the MC in the arena. It's like a 6,000. You have to see this arena. It's like the Nassal Coliseum. a fucking arena. Jesus Christ. And Pat McAfee's just going to have a mic that's going to be fucking blasting throughout the arena, just introducing every fighter.

That's what he was born to do. Oh, my, nothing. I mean, that's worth the price. Bill Burr still in the mix. Like, ringside. No gig has ever been better for anyone that is for Pat. I cannot wait for his intro speech just for these people walking.

Oh, it's going to be so good. His, like, his intro for gay Pat is going to be off the charge. It's going to be incredible. So kids flew. We got a private jet. For him and like 10 of his buddies, they all flew up to Morgan Town. They started drinking at 8 a.m. His buddy didn't fight until like 10, 15 p.

Kiz is like 5-8, like 140 or something. Kiz was annihilated at noon. His buddy didn't fight for 10 hours. So he ended up getting, by the time his buddy started fighting, Kiz got like escorted out of the building. He's so banged up. Real common man move. Bottom line, Kiz is the absolute man.

I remember I was on the ropes. I was filming. I just looked behind me and Kiz is like just scree- screaming into Dave's mic, like, let me on the mic, let me on the mic. And Dave's like, what the fuck do you want? Like, get someone like, get this guy out of here? And I turned to day. I'm like, that's Kisner. Like, that's a professional golfer.

And that man was leading the Open Championship for a long time. Was very close to winning the British Open. So, yeah, so Young Page Views was there. And that's the only time he's ever met or even known that Kevin Kisner exists as a human being. And he looked at us on Friday afternoon in the office. and he looked at the top of the leaderboard and he goes, wait, Kevin Kisner is leading the tournament.

He said there's no way that man is leading the tournament. And we said, yes, he is. Because he's awesome. Kis is a beauty, is my swing coach. I think he's kind of mad at me right now because he's boys with Justin Thomas. And so whenever

we're mean to JT, he gets texts from JT that are like, tell your fucking boys they're idiots, they don't know what they're talking about. So I've said it before, Kiz and I, we have a real back and floor. Worth Classic. JT's like that when your boy has an annoying girlfriend that like doesn't like your group of

friends. And you're like, just fucking dump her, man. Like, she doesn't like us. She doesn't like what we do. Like, that's JT. like, he's getting all these texts. Like, don't you hang out with them. Yeah.

Pretty much. That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like. It's kind of what I'm like kids. And I don't know if we're winning that battle or if JT's on that battle with kids. I feel like we're probably not winning that battle because they have more experiences together than they they have with us.

And they're all in a house together. All in the cool house this week. Yeah. So, yeah. So I didn't text. I haven't texted kids the whole time, especially because during the tournament, I'm not going to text it.

No. Because if he's playing great and then I text him, he plays like, shit, it's like, you blew it, right? It's like you blew ruin the old British over. So I haven't talked to kids. Yeah, I think he's still kind of mad at me, but whatever,

we're rooting for him so hard. Again, stories were pouring in left and right. We're putting them up everywhere on Instagram. This ain't no hobby boys was the best story I've seen in quite a long time. And that's the most kids line of all time. So the story is he's at Wingfoot. He's at a fucking big corporate outing, which these guys do all the time.

big corporate outing they usually try to get like a sponsor will try to get one of the one of the players who's one of their spokesman or one of the faces of the company to come play in it kids is one of those guys wingfoot east the 17th hole is this impossible par three uh it's like 250 greens like the craziest green you've ever seen like you can't even hit it on the green let alone anywhere near the golf hole they're saying kiz is like 17 beers deep hits one though like five feet walks up buries it just looks at him goes this ain't no hobby boys i want that on a shirt This ain't no hobby boys

Is just incredible So he's the best Awesome week for him He played great I'm sure he's a little bit disappointed You know I thought he was probably Going to get it done It was tough because we went in a Sunday

And it was like Tiger or Kiz I need one of those two to win And fucking Francesco Molinari won Which is devastating You know we're learning a little bit more about him Wesley Brian had a cool tweet Where he said that he essentially got some notes that he wrote down when he played with Molinari earlier in the year,

quotes directly from Molinari himself, which said his plan going forward, retirement in two and a half years, watch sports on TV, go to local coffee shop and have three cups per day, read some books maybe, use free Wi-Fi at places and become a Twitter troll, I have it all planned out. It's pretty good. So we're getting a little personality from the guy, which you like to see. He played lights out. He's been probably the best golfer on the planet for like the last three or four weeks.

Won a couple tournaments. Been playing, like I said, just lights out. He made no bogeys on Sunday playing with Tiger Woods. Yeah, I mean, we got to give the guys some props there because we're talking about Jordan Speath, who's one of the most, you know, lockdown, nails golfers in the universe. And he's only just looking up at a scoreboard and seeing Tiger Woods his name and, like, getting all freaked out and hitting fucking three woods from, like, bushes. And Francesco Morlunari is witnessing this stuff. He's witnessing a Tiger comeback.

He's witnessing Tiger take the lead in front of him. front of his eyes, something that we've been waiting to see our entire lives right now, and he's just stayed his course. He didn't do anything. He didn't miss fairways. He didn't miss greens. He just fucking putted around. He must have had like a three-foot circle around every single hole.

He just lag putt every single one and tapped in for par every single hole. He made his birdies where he needed to. He made, he came out with 13 straight pars. That's just that's during the tiger search. Yep. And there were a couple holes when he did get out of position

where he made huge bar putts, huge saves, rolled them right in there with just complete confidence, calmness, poised his short game after he said, you know, he played lights out in the couple holes where he did miss when he got himself into some bad spots. His short game, his touch, was just flawless. He made a couple of big putts. He didn't make a single anything on the card other than a par

until the 14th hole. He makes a very nice, pretty routine birdie. Then he birdied 18 to really seal the deal. I mean, that's how you went a golf tournament in Tiger's present. So it was impressive to see, you know, watching anybody walk down the 18th at the Open Championship. They got the yellow scoreboard, you know, it's the Carnusti, the clubhouse and all that. It gives you chills, no matter who it is. That was not the guy we wanted to win, but it just gives you chills.

It was awesome to see. He seemed very cool in the post-round interview. He was, they're like, what is your first thoughts? He was like, honestly, I just, I literally can't even believe who this is happening. I mean, I got to, he's the first Italian ever won a major. which is crazy. Which is awesome. So shout out to my people.

That's right. He was the first Italian guy to win a PJ Tour event at all. Yeah, I mean, that's really. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yep. That's great. There's pictures of him caddying at the Masters.

For his brother. For his brother when he was facing Tiger. In 06, I think it was. Yeah. How cool was that picture? Yeah. I mean, Francesca Wollinari doesn't just look like an Italian. He looks like a waiter in an Italian restaurant.

Yep. You can't look at him without thinking he's going to have and the spasel. And he walks over his arm and he walks over and he's like, what would you guys like? Peroni? He's like, Peroni or like anything else? I don't know. Are you guys like, no, I guess feeling that vibe?

No, I get it. I just, no, he literally looks like he's coming up to you ready to deliver the specials. Right. That's exactly what he's doing. Or he looks like he doesn't not only look like the waiter. He looks like the guy that comes over with the cheese, you know, the cheese grater. Like a step below the way. Tell me when to stop.

Right. And he's just grading the cheese on top. And I always love that, too. Like, when are you going to stop, right? How awkward do you feel? I mean, I'm just a restaurateur. I know this stuff because of Borrelli isn't like, when do you tell the person to stop? It's so awkward, right? Because if you want a lot of cheese on that fucking thing, you have an issue.

Can I don't, you know I'm talking about? I usually say stop pretty quickly. I don't know if I've ever been to a restaurant. So you get your, it's a very common thing. I know what you're talking about. You get your rigatone and you're sitting there with your rigatone and you have just no cheese on it, right? It's just sauce. And the guy comes over.

with a huge fucking thing of cheese and a greater and he's like, tell me when to stop. And it's usually like a big wooden one. Yeah. Like a real nice wooden one. And for me, I love a lot of cheese. If I could put the whole fucking thing a grated cheese on my pasta, I would.

So when I'm just sitting there for 10 seconds and the guy's looking at me like, do you hear what I said? Tell me what to stop? I'm like, yeah, just keep fucking going. Guys like, do you understand that you need to tell me when to stop? Yeah, no, I get it.

And I always push him to the limit. I make him go get another block of cheese. Let's keep this thing on. Francesco, go get me another block. fucking thing of cheese. We'll get me a perone and we're going to fucking sit here and we're going to pile this thing on my fucking cheese. And then you're going to go and win the open. You want to get nuts. We're going to see how much

cheese you got in this joint. So I always have a lot of anxiety with that because I used to have anxiety doing it. Like, oh my God, is this guy going to fucking have all this cheese? Whatever. So long story short, Francesca Marlinari, waiter to U.S. Open champion. I'm sure he was a waiter. We should look back into that. At some point he had to be. He had to have been a waiter.

I mean, he is just what he is. But props to him, man. Oh, he played lights out awesome stuff that's your people congrats to frankie kiz he ended up finishing tied for second um so i mean that's good stuff from kiz it's an awesome week he's got to be a little bit disappointed rory rory posted sneaky posted four rounds under par he shot 69 69 70 70 yeah he was he was bumping he might win huge fist bump when he made that eagle yep um on the 14 rory's got that down rory knows that whenever he hits a big shot i can get turned into a commercial i think that's what he's looking for yeah you're 100% like he's

He is a big time, big name. He knows how to be in the spotlight. He knows when he hits a big put that that fucking slow motion is going to be playing everywhere. He hits it. I'll take it a step further. I think he got in his shape for that. Because when he fist pumps and he's in great shape in slow motion, that looks unbelievable. Yeah.

Tiger paved the way for that. Tiger showed these guys that at some point, like if you hit a big shot, you got to like think that this thing's not only going to be seen by the people on the green or on TV. This thing's going to be seen forever in commercials and advertisements. The other thing that Rory does. is he's very aware of the delay for the fist pump because what happens right when the ball goes in, the camera needs a half a second or so to get to you.

So if you pump right away, they miss it. What he usually does, he does a little one, and then he does a huge one once the camera gets on him. So you never miss his pumps. Never. You see him every fucking time. If I'm a golfer, a professional golfer, I'm mad at Tiger, like, owning the fist pump.

Because there's nothing else you can do as, like, a golfer. Like, what else can you do that's exciting in the moment? I mean like speed you have to find you have to find something different like when speed through his golf club Oh and he threw it when he threw it from the bunker like that was fucking that was unique yeah it was Phil jumps Phil jumps Phil jumps Phil jumps Phil jumps not very well Rory is so self-conscious of it yet he comes from the top because he knows that bottom to up is tiger He knows like tiger owns any motion with arms and and exciting from bottom to and just doing that you got to come over like you're throwing it You know what Phil does a one step pump You know what I'm saying?

Yes. Yes. Yes. He punches the ball into the hole. Yes. Exactly. Oh, yeah. Exactly.

He steps and pumps, whereas Tiger's just like, you know, he's more like a lunge in a pump where I feel like Phil is like walking forward punching a hole. And his looks different because he's a lefty. My question to you is, does this run through these guys' heads? Or do you think it happens to a little bit? I mean, it happens naturally a little. You think guys practice their pump? I don't know if they practice that. I know they think about it.

Yeah, they got to be a little self-conscious. about it. If you just do the tiger pump, like you're doing the tiger pump. That's not. We'll be sitting here right now being like that guy does the tiger pump. You can do finger guns? Nicholas did the one hand in the air. Love that.

You would always put his putter hand in the air. Right, but you don't see that stuff mimicked or copied. I mean, everyone has their own one because I think they self-consciously like practice this and it's like true to their brand. I'm talking about the big guys. Yeah. Because those are the only guys that can fist pump. Yeah. I'd maybe go like knee kick.

Knee like. Yeah, what would yours be? One of those? I think that'd be mine. A knee kick? Yeah. I would do maybe a helicopter. Oh, we do.

Let's. We'll have another round, boys. And that's exactly what that is. Yeah. Yes again. No, that's a smitty, though. Let's get you up. Oh, yeah, you're right.

Not that is intense. A little more casual. I don't know what I feel like speed is a double. Doesn't he kind of do this? I'd just drop my fucking club and just boom. Boom. I would thrust. I'd hump the air.

The Frankie Thrust. I'd do the Frankie face fuck. That's what I would do. It was just... On the golf course? In front of the children? Yeah, you hit the fucking... Imagine hitting the last punt at the Masters,

dropping a club and just looking at the camera, and going, boom! I win! I just won! If you yelled out, I win. That would seal it. Miguel Anhelemenes does the... He does, like, the...

What am I trying to say? The sword and the... Oh, she is the sword. Yeah, but only a guy named Miguel Anheel Jimenez. Yeah. And he might only does it. some flare. He does the reverse like that.

Yeah. So that's pretty good. That guy, he fucks. I love when they say his last name, as they do in his native tongue, Jimenez. Jimenez. Jimenez. Yeah, they say with the T.H. Yeah.

Jimenez. Himethe. I'm trying to think anybody else we're forgetting in terms of celebrations. I don't know. But it's a good thing to think about it. The Phil jump is underrated. Yeah, Phil jumps. And then there's a, yeah.

It's such a little bunny hop. Yeah, it's a hop. It's so ridiculous he made his logo. It's a short hop. It's a short hop. Brando Chambly Our guy Brando Chambly Qualified for the senior open at

Oh wow I don't know this Yeah So Frankie today he played in a Monday Qualifier He shot He tied for low medalist honors He shot at 269

Wow nice Very nice So yeah he's been There's been a lot of Chatter about him Getting back into it He's 56 now Getting back into it

I think the last time He competed professionally He was like 2008 or something like that. He played in some tournament like 08. And now he's playing in the senior open at St. Andrews. He's awesome. At course, at San Andrews. This is like our senior open Kevin Kisner.

He's like, that's our guy. That's our guy. And it's different too because all the players hate him. All the players should now break down his film. Somebody did that. They did that. It was actually pretty good. It was our friends at golf.com did it.

Got it. It was good. It was good. They had Keegan. Our guy, Keeggs was great because he just was like, he did a very defensive version. of it. He was like, that looks great. His swing looks awesome, so that Brando won't rip his swing. So hopefully Brando wins. He can shove it back in their faces. It's different because the pressure for him is massive because all the players are

going to be rooting so hard against him. It's really unlike any pressure you could have. Like, he's the one person on the planet. Is he the Ian Poulter of the senior tour? I don't know. No, it's not, no. That's not like a fair comparison. Why? Because he's just a commentator who just like, the players hate him because he's he is ruthless. It doesn't try to make any friends on tour. He just tears apart guys when they make mistakes or do something stupid or when their swing doesn't look right and all that.

But you just may be a fan of the Ian Polter of the senior tour. You just don't see it that way. There are fans of Ian Polter out there. He's like not European. He's not even really on the senior tour. He's like the first time he's played. He's the bad guy showing up. Everyone wants to see him lose.

In that respect, he is that way. I'm not talking about like his fucking origins and shit. Talking about like his presence on the golf course. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if even Polder is even the bad guys, which is like the whiny bitch that people don't like. Brandel could fall in that category of design.

Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah. Anyways, Brandel. Brannel Chambly. Riggs disagrees. 69. I do. I don't think it's a great comparison.

I just disagree. A 69, very nice 69. He's playing in the senior open at the old course of San Andreas, so that'll be fun to watch this week. And they're just at San Andreas, which is awesome. Right. You got to love that. So if there's anybody who goes to the scene.

you're up and say it up to Brandel for us. Give a shout out to Brandoosti. How awesome was Carnusti? Great. I was looking back at pictures that you've posted there every year. I was looking back of pictures that you've posted on your Instagram, and I mean, it's just greener. I know. It's a completely different color. Completely different golf course.

Last year it was a, it was literally a completely different color last year when I was there. I mean, they got a ton of rain last year. They're on a severe drought system this year. But Carnusti is so good. That 18th hole is on. Unbelievable. The 18th hole brings all the job. How about Tiger's shot on Saturday that didn't go in the burn on 18?

That was crazy. Yeah, I almost had a hard attack. It was as if he had a remote control on the ball and he was just turning it. It happened a couple times. That shot, if he had ended up winning, that would have been like the turning point. It was like the golf gods. It wasn't even going straight. It was going into it.

Where the golf gods were like, all right, we want to get a number 15. That burn was designed for that golf shot to end up in the burn. Like, that's just what happens. If you hit it anywhere near there, it goes on that. could prove that in his video game the spin that you can do, and you just keep hitting like A or X whatever, like you can just spin it? Like, he proved that that's real life. He was hammering the spin button

to the right. You're right, because that ball's hooking left, Lanz just kicks way right, and he's like, he was doing so much, like, when you're playing that game, sometimes you put it on your fucking lap, and you're just like, banging it with your pointer finger because your thumb just can't move fast enough? Yeah, that's what he was. My buddy Dan used to do that. He's really good at. Yeah, I do that, too. I do that, I'm pretty good.

He does it on drives, too, because he try to power it up. You can do that. Nothing was worse than when you over did it on an approach shot zoomed it all the way back. We're like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. It's the worst. It's tough, too, because you get it going. And then you're like, actually, I don't need any spin on this shot. So if you spin it forward, it's off the green.

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Whatever the hell it is, send it to us. We are by the common golfer for the common golfer. That's why this show exists. We come at golf probably much like you and your buddies, so send us stuff. We'll relate to it. It'll be funny. Our crew, our listeners will love it. Reggie asks a very simple question.

He says, can I consider myself a golf guy if I'm not. terrible. I'll take that one. Tough couple, ten minutes for our boy, it is. It really is. I think the answer is yes. And the reason I say it's yes is because if you're, you can be terrible, but I'm guessing Reggie is trying to be a better golfer.

And the second part of this question is maybe the answer to that. But if you're at least trying and you like golf and you're watching golf and you talk to your buddies about golf, I think you can be a golf guy and be terrible because why I took this question, I'm not the greatest golfer in the world, but I still consider myself a golf guy. I would say it almost makes you more of a golf guy if you're terrible and you just love golf. Yes. Like, that is more relatable than being a sick golfer.

That is true. Incredibly more related. There's way more shitty golfers than good golfers. No doubt about it. I would guess like the average, I would guess the average candy cap of like all of the golfers in America is like 15 or something or 16. Definitely. That'd be my guess, right?

You shoot around like 90, 95, something like that. Yeah, I mean, there's always been that stat. I think people just say it because they want it. to make themselves feel better, but people say, like, the average golfer just doesn't break 100. Yeah, that's probably pretty fine accurate. It probably is.

Because, I mean, it's a difficult game, and unless it comes pretty naturally, and you have a chance to play a fucking shit ton and, like, get better, you're not going to get better. Like, I mean, even, like, ever since I started Barcelona, I play, like, you know,

once a weekend, and back when I was playing in high school, I was, like, able to play every single day and you play good, and, like, the more you don't get a chance to play, this fucking game's hard, man. It's such a hard game. You don't have to be good to be a good,

to be a golf guy. And there's so, no, not at all. Like I said, I think it almost makes you more relatable. You're like, I just love golf. Plus, man, the game beats your brains every weekend. You're like, I love this shit. This game's great. There's a sense of grinding and, like, learning new shots and stuff and being able to, like,

get better in progress. If you're, if you're already a fucking scratch golfer, I mean, golf kind of sucks to you because you expect to play every single day and, like, you don't like, like, I couldn't agree more with that. Yeah. I think that is spot on. I actually, like, I get, when you go out and we play with somebody who is, you not like a 20 or something like that.

They go out and they put like three really good holes together or hit like a really great shot on a part three and make like a birdie. Yep. That is so, that is a higher level of enjoyment for that person than anything I've seen any of my buddies who are like scratch golfers do ever. No doubt about it. When I played like two weeks ago and I pard the last hole,

I was like this is the best moment of my life. Like I'm going to keep coming back and that's like why I want to keep playing. Whereas if you're like a scratch golfer, you just go out and shoot like between 68 and like 74 every time you play like all right what's the like yeah there's no variance in that there's no like right you're stuck you're stuck in this um like world where you're not going to become a professional golfer and you're also not going to do anything with your skills except for just play golf and you just can get mad at yourself every time you go out there because you're not doing it you know what I mean because you're not as good as guys on TV it's a never ending

cycle of just like you want to get to that next level but you just can't and you can't go out there and shoot like an 80 because then you feel like your day is. ruined. Reggie is probably out there right now. Like, I'm the biggest golf guy. You guys are right. I know. But I do.

I think that's true. I get, like, jealous sometimes of people that, like, the, um, when you, when you have low expectations and then you do something sweet and golf, it is so awesome. That's how I live my life. Like, I'm sure, Rick, you've reached a level where you have expectations now that are hard to obtain every time. Yes. When you don't.

And it's weird because, right? So I'm like a five or something right now. And it's weird. Weird because it used to be, I used to be at a point, you know, when I started, like, really getting into golf like 12 years ago or something like that. Where, like, breaking, like, 85 would be awesome. It would be, like, jacked up. I had a great day. It's great.

And now it is to a certain point where, like, if I shoot an 87 or something and I'll look at it, be like, man, that was, like, horrible. But then I'll really look at it and be like, like, 87's, like, I mean. Yeah, that's good. Strung a lot of pretty good holes. Yeah, 87 is a good score. And then you look back at your scorecard and you, like, three put a couple holes. and you're like, man, I was like a couple of holes away from, I was like one or two mistakes away from shoot like eight, three.

Like I fucking triple seven. Totally. Like I shouldn't have done that. I hit it at OB, one bad shot. Exactly. And that's like, it does take, you have to train yourself to get to that point. Because golf, if you look at it from the complete opposite angle, you could, you would want to kill yourself after every round of golf.

Yep. Which is, no doubt. You don't ever want to be in that place. No. Second part of this question is, what's the best way to not suck and be decent? Well, if I knew, I would be good. I think the main one is you just got to play more. You just got to play and play and play.

That is the biggest thing. For sure. Like just getting out there and swinging because if you don't do that, then you're not even like trying to get better. But it's like... I mean, it sounds obvious, but there are points where I'm hitting... I mean, everyone knows my struggles with the sandwich and my butter knives. But the only time I ever hit the butter knife is on the golf course.

I never get a chance to practice it. I don't belong to a club. I don't have a chipping green. I don't have a putting green. Right. I don't get a chance to do it. I don't have time to go to the local putting green at like Eisenhower. or whatever down the block and just like chip for fucking 10 hours.

I just can't do it. So the only time I ever get a chance to do it is on the golf course. I scull it across the green and I don't learn how to hit the better shot. You know what's crazy to think about is you'll go on like a Sunday afternoon. You'll scull chip or two. Last hole you play 18th hole you skull chip or two. Then you'll come on the podcast. You'll talk about it.

You get chirped about it all week on Twitter. And then like a week later you'll go out and on the first hole. Just do it again. That's like the first chance you get to try it again is just under pressure on the first hole. Exactly. After people have been making fun of you for a week. I did this just the last time I played. I had a fucking bad lie.

I was downhill. I had a sandwich in my hand and my buddies look at me like, holy shit. I'm like, and I'm like, well, the last time I was in this position, I hit a bad shot. When have I had a chance to practice this? Right. And I'm laughing. I'm talking to myself. I skull it sideways.

Well, stop looking at me. Stop listening to the show. Just someone give me a practice screen or something. I don't get a chance to do this. Yeah. That's true, too, because all of your buddies. I can't even imagine all your buddies every time you get out to watch. I bet they all just look like, okay, Frankie.

Let's see it, buddy. There's a bunch of when I go on the course now, it's, you better watch out when I have it in my hand. Like if we're playing with strangers, like, oh, you guys better look out up there. Like, I'm, I'm a weapon. But, I mean, it's a weapon. It is. It is a weapon. I will say it's much, much harder in New York, too, to do anything.

When I lives back home, I mean, I could get in my car. I could drive 10 minutes and there's like five courses everywhere. Now, it's like, I feel like I'm, like, boxed in. You need to set it. If you live in Manhattan, you need to set, like, a date three weeks in advance. You're going to be doing this. We're going to take off. We're going to take the train.

We're going to be doing all this shit. Getting there is by far the hardest part. I got to get a train. And I maybe got to take an Uber. And it's like, oh, my God, when before I could just get in my car and go. Francis, and you're just taking the boat across the Bayonne. That's just a slap in the face. Yeah, I'm not doing that.

Last one, we got Blake, who, he told kind of a pretty funny story, actually. This is a crazy story. I had to tell this story. So he goes, I got a buddy I've been playing golf with for about five years now. We both played golf in college. We're pretty decent players. He has always been pretty calm on the golf course, but the past week or two, he has had one of the biggest feuds with OB stakes on the golf course,

specifically one hole at our home course. It's the third hole, which is a dog leg par five with OB tight down the left side the entire way. The last two times we played this hole, he hooked his ball OB. The first time, he calmly said, this steak is supposed to be further left and moved it a few feet to the left. which was fine with me. He took his penalty and went on with the round. But a few days later, he hooked his T-shot OB again and went absolutely bananas.

He started off with a speech saying how historically the OB steaks have slowly moved closer to the cart bath every day. Then he proceeded to rip the steak out of the ground and throw slash kick it into a nearby backyard. The man who owned the home was on the back porch with his wife and yelled at my buddy to put the steak back where it was supposed to be. my buddy picked up the steak stuck it in the middle of the guy's backyard then drove away i don't know what to do on one hand i enjoy watching him go full psycho on these poor obi stakes but i also don't want to see him start attacking himself or the people playing with him every time we play any suggestions on what to do um take a video for us next time the first thing we got to get video your buddy i need him going on an absolute speech about how the obis stakes have been moving in closer to the

family over time is he hitting this ball there that he is he knows he knows he's a video you knows that it's gotten closer since the last time. Hey, man, you gotta stop hitting that club. This guy's, he's, he is the definition of we've lost control of the obesity. Like the obese sticks have a mind of it. He's the guy, I tell you, these fucking things are moving in, man. You don't see it?

You guys don't see it? Look at it. Look at it. It's moving right now. What's on a tinfoil hat? You don't see it? You don't see that shit moving? Like, Billy, how do you know that they've been moving?

What are you talking about? We were here two weeks ago. What an incredibly specific gripe that is? These obese sticks are just, they're just, are on the move. I don't know what's going on anymore. And then he's getting into it with the guy in the backyard. Like that guy's on a mission to move the OB steaks closer to the golf board. I like that the guy in the

house was like, put that OB steak back. Like, put it back. You know where that obesity is. I know you know what that obesity. They just fucking planted in the backyard. Here's where it's supposed to be, bitch. That's awesome. That's pretty good. That's from the gallery. We remember, reminder, we got a second show coming up on Thursday.

We got Tiger in another week. He'll be back. The Bridgestone, which is a big tournament, will be a huge field there, obviously, it's a WGC, and then a major championship right after that. Two weeks from today will be PGA Championship Week. It happened so fast. Isn't that nuts? Yeah. Exciting times. So times are still exciting.

Awesome, awesome leaderboard that we had out at the British Open. Shout out to Francesco Mowanari, the Italian waiter for the Big W. I hope that becomes his nickname. The Italian Way, that's pretty good. I think that's good? Or, I mean, probably would prefer to be called Champion Golf for the Year. There's got to be, I mean, I'm kind of, I don't know like any, I don't know Italian, but there's got to be a word for an Italian waiter that we can call them. It's got to be like a slang word or something, you know, the Italian word for waiter or server or something.

We'll look into that. Or bartender, anything. We're going to look into it. Yeah. We'll be back Thursday. Happening times. A lot of good stuff going on in the world of golf. That's all I got.

Hit it hard. Hit it hard.