Fore Play - It’s over, and it’s about to begin
Episode Date: September 8, 2020The tour championship has concluded about exactly as everyone predicted. That’s cool. DJ is the best and it’s not close. We discuss Novak Djokovic smoking a line judge with a tennis ball and getti...ng booted from the Open but we’re not a tennis podcast. We discuss Islanders vs Lightning but we’re not a hockey podcast. We’re onto Winged Foot and onto several From The Galleries including: do you wear headphones to the range, how loud do you yell “FORE,” and where did Bryson go???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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I guess 2019-2020 season is officially over.
It's weird because I would say there's as much excitement as there's been all season long because now we're just in U.S. Open mode.
We've been talking behind the scenes about our videos.
We've been talking in front of the scenes about our videos, about our U.S. Open coverage, about Wingfoot, about the carnage, about how it's going to fucking destroy these guys.
So excitement level is incredibly high.
The master's in like two months, yet the season is just over.
So the whole thing's bizarre.
DJ cleaned up.
He went second, no, he went tied for second, win by a million second, and then win.
So DJ's clearly far and away the best player in the world right now.
I think we've got a ton to talk about on that front.
Gentlemen, happy Labor Day.
It's Labor Day.
So to everyone that labor is out there, happy Labor Day,
even though you're going to be hearing this the day afterwards.
Happy Labor Day.
DJ made $19 million in six weeks.
I just did the math.
I went back and I looked at all the leaderboards
and I wanted to add up how much it was
because I knew it was going to be a crazy amount.
And it comes out too.
It's a little under 19.
It's 18,700,000, whatever.
I decided to round up for DJ.
So $19 million in the last month and a half.
It's just a lot of money, man.
I was trying to get past the percentage of people.
Like obviously he was going to make more than 99.9% of people
like in their lifetimes.
I was trying to figure out businesses.
Like if he took like small and large businesses,
like what percent of businesses won't make that a year?
Let alone people.
Just how much like he's probably in the 90th percentile for businesses this year.
This year, yeah, probably.
I mean, small businesses won't make that.
So if you're just taking like businesses in general,
I mean, he makes just.
What's the,
I wonder what the average revenue is per like small business in the country.
There's no way it's 19 million.
Not even close.
I mean, all those fucking companies are going,
tank when they're like, what's your, what's your, like, revenue for the last two years?
They're like, oh, 150 grand.
DJ just made $19 million.
There's a lot of reasons why I'm, like, not Dustin Johnson.
But if I were him right now, I would walk away.
I'd be like, I think I'm done.
Tack on that 19 to the other, like, 65 million that he's made in the past.
He's sitting on a cool $84 million.
Like, that's it.
You know, you're 36 years old.
You've done it all.
You got a FedEx Cup now.
You got a major.
you got a ton of wins on the PJ tour.
What else he got to prove?
What else he got to prove?
Did you see at the end they're like,
Panned a Paulina?
And she was like, I'm so proud of you.
She like mouthed in her lips.
It's like, yeah, I bet you are.
He's fucking walking off with him quick 15 million.
He's got a great light.
He's got a great light.
It is.
It's funny that the cycles that we've gone through.
And really, you could say that this cycle
and what I'm referring to is sort of like
the next best player or the current best player.
and that has been reflected in the world ranking in terms of shuffling from who's the current number one right player in the world.
But it's very bizarre because for 15 years straight, it was just one person was clearly the best player.
And now we've kind of been like, oh, on their A game, is Dustin Johnson the best?
Is Justin Thomas the best?
Is Roy McElroy the best?
Is Jordan Speed the best?
And I was kind of, I imagine it's recency bias to a degree.
but with the 30 under,
and then even with coming back
on a really difficult U.S. Open type setup
and getting into a playoff with John Rahm,
who's one of the greats of this generation,
and then coming out and winning the Tour Championship,
the fact that he has won a U.S. Open before,
so we know he has that pedigree,
the fact that he hit the ball a mile
and hits it dead straight,
the fact that he's such a cool customer,
I think that we're finally in a spot
for the first time in several years
where it's like there's clearly a guy
who's a game is just,
better than anybody else's and i doubt that anybody here would disagree with that yeah you bring up a
good point where i'm glad the my favorite part about this recent dj stretch is that we do have an answer to that now
like this clearly isn't going to last forever that it's just not sustainable otherwise he'd be the
best golfer of all time if he kept doing this but we can look back we now have a point where we can
say this is where dj was at his best and he almost won four tournaments in a row and he was 30 under
at TPC Boston.
Like, it's nice to have like a piece of that argument
where you can point to and be like,
what is DJ like as best?
We're like, oh, we know what it looks like.
It happened at this time.
And he fucking was an absolute fire-breathing dragon
on the golf course.
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Where the hell are you right now, Riggs?
You look like you're like at the Unabomber's cabin or something.
That's what you went with, the Unabomers cabin.
I don't know.
You look like you're in the middle of nowhere.
Well, I'm in Colorado.
I've said before my folks moved out here, you know,
and they're kind of retired stage of their life.
That might have to be an outdoorsman.
We've gone through that before my dad's like a mountain man.
He loves to go on crazy excursions and hikes and shit.
And so they got a place.
They moved to Colorado a couple of years ago.
And so we got a little Labor Day family time.
I spent a lot of time with my nephew.
We had him in the creek.
I will say, like a three-and-a-half-year-old kid,
getting them in like a creek and outdoor.
As much as we're glued to our phones and technology,
it's such a reminder of how just being outdoors.
Like, he just throws a pine cone into the stream,
and it goes through like a little mini waterfall,
and he just goes, yeah.
It's the greatest thing of all time.
So it's just adorable to watch.
But I'm in Colorado.
Cool.
I enjoy Colorado. I've had many good times in Colorado. I like the fact that like when you step out of your house and you drive on just a regular parkway or highway out there, the mountains are just, it looks like a postcard no matter where you're at. It's crazy.
I've often said that Colorado is the best state, all 50 of them. It's the best one. It's hard to say negative things about Colorado. Colorado is gorgeous. The air is just fresher. You know, it's crisp. Obviously, a lot of that, probably the elevation, but it's crisp. It is tough to get air. I feel like Lurch, you struggle.
in Colorado. It's just kind of like tough to get that, that air and get it to all the different
parts of your body. Well, I think a lot of triathletes train in Colorado. Oh.
You know, because your blood tends to thick and I believe are captured
those altitudes. So, you know, in the tri-world, so to speak.
You're not in the tri-world. You're not in the tri-world. If you're going to shit on me
for one thing, I'm going to just try to upon myself and pat myself on the back for another.
you're not in the triathlon world you're just not but i ain't like clidesdale in the sprint division
i'll tell you this here in um carotice we're in like boulder and there's a uh there you know we're
kind of like maybe 10 minutes from downtown a little bit like up into the mountains and these
little mountain roads the cyclists on these fucking roads in the morning you see them going up and
they're just they're just right they're hucking as hard as they can and going
like half a mile an hour, but it's understandable, going up a fucking mountain.
And then later in the day or second half of the morning, they just come ripping down,
going like 60 mile an hour on these little tiny bikes with all these tight turns.
It's amazing how balzy these people are and how fast they're going.
And I guess to Lurch's point earlier since he's part of the tri-community,
that this altitude is just perfect for trading.
So all of the best cyclists, all the Tour de France teams, no matter where in the world they are,
A lot of them come to this part of the world to train because it's like the best altitude elevation combo in the world.
So they're fucking everywhere here.
It's actually very annoying.
Exactly.
I'm familiar.
I know that world.
I just, you know, shedding light on that world because I'm obviously such a, you know, high octane athlete.
You want to figure out this goddamn.
I'm trying to figure out this goddamn camera I'm on right now.
No matter what I do, no matter what little tricks or no matter what kind of movement.
You kind of got like a.
It's just like sometimes.
I'm not this pale.
On Labor Day weekend,
how are you that pale?
No, people aren't going to be able to see this,
obviously,
but your box next to Lurch's box right now,
it's different.
It's two different things.
Two different species.
Like, you can't be that.
Yeah,
and I'm white as a ghost too,
but for some reason,
whatever's going on with your camera,
you look see-through.
I wouldn't hate actually doing a group
sprint triathlon race.
I couldn't care less about doing that faster than me.
I think it would be so funny.
I don't think I would be.
The run is a drink.
I choose not to race.
I also just like if oh,
you're stronger than me, like sick.
I don't. I lay like triathlons.
Like you can swim in the water more than me.
Great.
Like I can just fucking lay in bed all day and like go golfing on the weekends.
And that's,
I don't need to go, I don't need to go jump off a bike into an ocean.
Right, Frankie, Frankie, speaking of kind of your knowledge on this sort of, you know, outdoor activity.
And the story of what you thought fly fishing was comes up when I'm in the Colorado situation with my family.
Yes, the story of you describing what you thought fly fishing was comes up all the time.
Well, I mean, I got a tough.
Well, I thought fly fishing was like when you go down these crazy creeks where in which those fish come fucking flying out of.
of the water and they jump in and the guys stand there and they catch him in those little fucking
like with the net the net the net like you thought you catch me in the air like they fly through
the air and he catch them in the that's what that's what bears do but dude no no no no like there is a
thing in which people do what I'm saying and I don't know what the name of that is I thought like
that would be called fly fishing because these fish fly out of the water into your boat there's a
video that people after we had that initial argument or debate someone sent me like I can't
believe that this isn't called fly fishing. There's fish legitimately flying
through the creek and just dumping themselves in the boat. Yeah, I'm not going to knock that
logic. Although I do love that you didn't know what it was and that's what you thought, but
it makes sense. I mean, how do you, like a river runs through it, Brad Pitt, you never see.
Wow, I need water. What's going on here?
I haven't had water all there. Now, Riggs, are you fly fishing? Did you fly fish today?
Because that's a very relaxing time. No, there's a, there's a fly fishing trip to
tomorrow with my dad and my brother, but I'm not going to go. It's a, it's all day thing.
I said, I got to work. So no. Unfortunately, I can't go. I'm also of the three. I'm by far
the least fishermany of the, of the crew. Yeah, I'm just, like, you kind of. I don't know if you guys
know, but Riggs's dad is like a beast outdoors. I mean, he's got to be rank in the top, you know,
10th percentile in the world of just outdoors. He did a four, he did a four week excursion to
Siberia. And in there, like, you have to sign something where if you get injured during the
hike, it's so remote and so life-threatening, that if you get injured during the hike, the group
has your permission to leave you behind so you don't kill someone else by requiring the group
to, like, stay behind. My dad's like, that's great. Yeah. You would never know. And then you talk to
him. You're like, oh, my God, you're the toughest man a lot. He trains, like, in the Midwest heat,
in the humidity in the middle of the summer, you'll see my dad out there in the local
park. The kids are playing soccer and fucking
run around cones and stuff. My dad's
running with a backpack full of weights
and as much up and down hills
and shit. Holy shit, man.
Yeah, he's like 67 or something. It's amazing.
I can't imagine the local rumors of the kids run
around cones is those speaking you'd say
of what they say about that guy. Oh, no,
that's the guy that, you know, does this, this and this,
that, you know, hiked Everest naked
and anything other thing. It's like, I can't
imagine what those rumors are.
He's got, I'll put this, I'll get this one photo, but he's got a photo of him, uh, standing in a creek in, I think it's in Siberia.
And he's fly fishing.
And on the other bank of this like large creek, so probably 15 yards away is a giant grizzly bear also fishing on the other side.
Oh my God.
What?
That's a world.
Yeah.
I can't even like relate to in the slightest.
I don't even know how someone could go out and do that.
So on his, uh, on his, on his side.
Siberian trip. He was there again, about four weeks. I think it was like a week of it was travel. So he was out in the wild for about three weeks. Guess how many bears he saw in three weeks?
I don't even know what a realistic number of years. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where to start. I don't know 15 bears. I don't know.
Okay. Yeah, I would say if you saw anything over 15, it would be an outrageous number. They saw 82 bear. Yeah, it's too many bears. It's a lot of bears. To the point where they at night with their camp,
They can't, you know, they go with a crew of like eight to ten people and a couple guides.
They've had multiple times they have to stand around in a circle and bang pots and pans to scare the bears off so they don't come into their camp at night.
But all right.
What about that's enjoyable?
That's what I was just going to say.
I was going to say, all due respect to everybody that does that, you are a much stronger and better man than I.
But the one question I would have is why?
He lives for the struggle.
That's what he says.
Like when he's, he says like when I wake up and it's blistering cold and there's a little rain and there's wind and you have to like,
as a as a as natural the human as you can you got to battle with the elements and catch some fish
to survive he's like I fucking live for that so he just like there's a just loves it there's a video
going viral on Twitter right now I don't know if you guys saw it of the guy surfing the 115
foot wave and it's it's one of the most incredible videos I've ever seen and I quote tweeted it and I
said and this is true like I get it my stomach it's a little queasy if I'm in an elevator and it like
drops too many floors too quickly just like ooh I didn't like that and there's people out there
it's surfing 115 foot waves.
You got Riggs' dad fishing with grizzly bears.
It's just a whole different world.
Dude, it's weird where they go.
They have to do, they have like a no, you know, like a no presence policy and no human presence.
So they literally burn their, they use toilet paper they use.
They burn it.
And then like they're not allowed to create a fire ring because there's essentially,
when you leave, there's not supposed to be any clue or any evidence whatsoever outside
of footprints, which will be washed away, that humans were there.
It's fucking great.
Leave no trace.
That's what it is.
That's crazy, man.
It's absolutely wild.
Anyways, golf.
My dad thinks I'm the biggest pussy in the world.
I wanted to ask you that as well.
Your dad says, I'm going to Siberia for six months,
and you're like, I'm going to go play Wingfoot.
So I'll see you later.
Riggs's excursion to Siberia was to Pinehurst Golf Resort for 99 days.
Also, like, the biggest struggle he had for fishing him up, brother and dad,
and then he's tweeting tomorrow.
So it's like.
Right.
The biggest struggle he had was when they moved.
moved him from the presidential suite out to the cottage.
He left no trace.
He left no trace of himself inside the presidential suite.
You should see me trying to clean up that suite, folding the blankets.
That's good stuff.
That's good old-fashioned fun.
By the way, for anyone listening, the Barstle Golf Society event is at Pinehurst tonight.
And when you're listening to this, it's today up until 8 p.m. Eastern.
Yes, true.
Okay, golf.
We're going to talk a little golf.
Dustin Johnson, Tour Championship.
First of all, it was tough this weekend, I thought, on a holiday weekend to really get into this.
I thought, for whatever reason, I thought the BMW last week was more intriguing.
I thought with the scores and with how tough and U.S. open conditions, I was more into that.
And I feel like other years, I've been more into the Tour championship than I was this year.
It just felt like they were, I don't know, it felt a little different to me.
And so I really just didn't, I didn't follow it a ton.
Maybe that's because it was sort of over before it started.
DJ was just holding his lead.
I don't know.
My excitement level wasn't particularly high.
I don't know about your guys.
I mean, I liked watching it, but I do agree.
On Labor Day weekend, it is tough to follow along.
And I saw your tweet rigs of like, I just don't give a fuck
or whatever you said about like the tour championship.
But I mean, yeah, DJ kind of just like he never really kind of faltered.
What on the second day, he didn't play great, but still had a lead or was tied for it or something like that at the end.
And then Saturday, Sunday, or I guess Sunday, Monday, he just kind of like cruised and pulled away or stayed with the lead rather.
Because I think actually, he and JT shot the same net four-day score, but he started with a three-dea lead, three-shot lead and finish with it.
Yeah, I saw people saying that like, oh, your gross winner and actually this guy would, like, that's just also bullshit because DJ's playing to win this.
He's not playing to win.
Right.
So it just doesn't, it's so stupid to me that people care about it.
Yeah, I mean, the tournament's built for Dustin Johnson to win it.
That's like why he has the lead.
So when he's just cruising through the weekend, yeah, he has a three or four,
five-stroke lead at times.
He kind of faltered towards the end, having a couple of bogeys in a row.
And you thought Justin Thompson would come up.
At times he thought Ron was going to come up.
At times you thought Shaftley was going to come up, whatever.
But the tournament is built for him to win.
So, like, obviously you're going to lose some of that, like, competitive edge going into it.
when you have a sunny Labor Day weekend,
you want to spend time with family and all this stuff.
You have it on.
Like I had it on all weekend.
But I got the Islanders going to the fucking Stanley Eastern Conference Finals.
I got a lot of shit going on in my life.
At the end of the day,
when I know Dustin Johnson's supposed to win this event,
if he's still winning it,
when I check in,
I'm like, okay, like, he's doing the thing.
Like, they built this so that he does what he's doing right now.
So nothing about this is surprising or intriguing to me.
Had he, like, gone 15 over in the first day,
and all of a sudden it's a,
fucking crap shoot and guys are coming out of the woodworks fucking playing for the tour championship
for $14 million. You don't have to put in the clip there because I know he doesn't say $14 million.
But the problem is is that he didn't. So I didn't care that much. I watched it. I didn't care.
No, you're right. They did design it in a way where they're like, we want to make sure whoever wins
a tour championship is also going to win the FedEx Cup and they're going to win the $10 or $15 million.
What they didn't anticipate, or maybe they did is that you take some of the juice out of the tournament
because you're just like, oh, well, that guy, he started with a 10 shot lead.
obviously it's not that many over the guys who are closer to him but it's exactly what frankie's
saying people are going to check in every once in a while it's like oh DJ still winning like who cares
he was winning before the thing even started so it's like wow how is my excitement level
supposed to raise or decrease it's the same thing on sunday it was the same as wednesday
right he won wire to wire and also like before the wire was even fucking great he was winning
he was leading the so the whole thing it had no real drama to it it didn't
What I was thinking too was it didn't ever hold enough weight to determine me from something else that could have been a more fun activity.
Like if someone, like playing golf, I would rather have just played golf today than watch this.
And that's not true for all tournaments, especially major championships, the players, the memorial sticks out.
Eastlake, a lot of years, sticks out as one of those where it's like, no, I'm going to make sure I play in the morning so I could definitely watch that tournament.
And this time, it was like, if anything else came up, I don't know that most people, unless you're a creed.
Dyerhard fan or better or something would be invested enough to watch that on a Labor Day
Monday over doing a lot of other activities. And the idea is the $15 million, the huge prize,
that's going to get people excited about it. That's what we said for the longest time,
that they've thrown money in this thing, and that's supposed to get people excited about it.
But that also, you know who that really gets excited? It's just the players. The players get super
excited about that. They can win $15 million. I think Kevin Kisner finished 23rd,
of course he did and he got $466,000.
That's not a normal amount for that place in a tournament.
So yeah, it's going to get the players excited.
It doesn't totally move the needle as much as I think they thought it was going to
with the general public.
No, and it gets you, really what it gets you is during the last hour of coverage on Monday,
the final round, it gets you like, oh, this up and now, it's worth 500 grand.
And those things are cool to a degree, but it's also inherently a forced fake incentive.
Right? Like that's not, those guys, Rory's talked a ton about how, like, he just plays for the prestige.
He plays to win. He's got plenty of money. And a lot of these guys that were in the mix have plenty of money.
Not that they don't care because of the money. Of course they do. There's a reason they all show up.
There's a reason they all want to get to East Lake. But at the end of the day, exactly what you said, Trent, where it cares to them.
But to us as the viewer, the prestige, the history of watching at certain courses, at Augusta, at these U.S.
open venues, knowing how much it matters to history, not just to their bank accounts is what
drives you to care about the finale and seeing it. And even like the finish that we got at
BMW, you know, like that drove that tournament to such an iconic sort of place over all the
tournaments that we witnessed all year. And I don't know that was even going to be possible at
Eastlake. So the whole thing was just, it just didn't quite land this year for me. Having said
that some of the breakdowns are hilarious.
Like you said, Kiz with a 23rd place finish.
Of course, you had to guess at the beginning of the year.
Where is Kiz going to finish at the Tour Championship?
You'd probably guess 23rd.
Boom, there he is.
466K.
Bryson with a surprisingly bad finish.
You finish one spot in front of Kiz.
478K for 22nd.
Kind of a weird falloff for Bryson,
considering we were talking that he just,
he just, like, ruined and reinvented golf
and that no one's playing the same game.
to the point where they're asking other players during the press conferences and stuff,
like, what are you going to do about this Bryson D. Chambos situation?
And then it just didn't pan out.
And he has kind of fizzled off for the last month.
Yeah, I haven't heard Bryson's name.
Almost forgot he was playing this weekend.
Like, which is crazy if you go back and, like you just said,
the way we've talked about him all year,
Bryson was going to be a problem until we were, you know,
until he was 140 years old at that at some, some aspect of what was going on with him.
I mean, he, his, you got to think.
that that like this sits with him now until i mean i the u.s. opens coming up so maybe he'll
like he won't think about it but the fact that at the end of the year like they're going to say
he finished 22nd on the pgat tour this year right is that like is that the way like this works like
he's the 22nd best player on the pGA tour this year i mean i think that's going to murder him and
mentally like that's going to actually fucking kill him he essentially have the 22nd best season on the
bjord this year for his ego and his person
personality and the way he thinks about himself and thinks he's changing the game of golf.
Like, Bryson, I don't know if it's in your books or something, but like finishing 20 seconds,
just not going to get it done.
Like, you're not changing kids' lives at 22nd.
Maybe, maybe you got to get in the top eight to start talking about changing lives.
Like, let's get a little bit lower than 22.
You finish one spot better than Kisner, a guy who just drinks beer and where's a hoody at
Palmetto and doesn't give a fuck about anything.
You're out here trying to change the world.
and you're one one spot above that guy.
It's funny that those two body types are pretty much a tie.
Like all set and done like 20 second, 23rd.
Like if you just like stood those people next to or did that like Sports Illustrated
Swim Suit Edition with the guys, like he saw like Kisner's like kind of like
mediocre to average body.
And then you saw Bryson just as big as a house.
It's like, yeah.
I mean FedEx, the company of FedEx decided like, okay, we looked at your two seasons and
we're going to give Bryson, you earn 12 more thousand dollars at the end of the end of East Lake.
Congratulations.
And how much more work was put into Bryson?
I mean, he has a team that says go, go, go, go when he takes a practice swing inside a simulator.
I will say I think this year they didn't really like talk about the money as much.
Like I just like last year, Rory won JT.
I think was the leader.
I just looked it up.
So JT started at 10 under.
Roy started at 5.
So there was a little bit of switch.
There was a little bit more excitement.
This year, DJ just never seemed to give it up.
So it didn't really capture or captivate anybody or like Riggs bring you in from another round of golf or whatever the case is.
Like, I agree with it.
It just didn't have that factor.
Two years in a row now, the leader on Thursday has won, correct?
No, J-T.
No, J-T blew it last year and Rory won.
He was five-strokes off even.
Oh, that's right.
That's right, that's right, that's right, that's right.
We got to talk about the 15th hole.
I mean, one of the most preposterous golf holes every year.
I forget that it exists.
And then this 15th hole is just a 233 yard part three with water all down the right,
water short, water long, a little bit of a bunker on the left and then just water everywhere.
And these guys step up and just hit it right.
The flag is, it just doesn't make any sense.
What's the hardest hole in golf?
What?
Yeah.
But one guy went in the water today.
One.
That's what I understand.
Like TPC, the, the ball is.
17.
People go in the water all the time.
It's a width.
120 yards.
And the green's huge.
Here, we're 233 out.
There's the same amount of water, it seems like.
And they're just hitting the green every time.
I don't understand.
That doesn't make any sense.
That's a really good point, Lurch.
You know, that's a really good.
How come they can just not hit the other one that's 125 yards?
And this one's 233.
That's like, I'm hitting three wood, maybe, into the.
that green?
Yeah.
I'm fucking kidding me.
It's whole, watching people step up to that team when they do the shot,
it's a regular shot, like a camera shot of the guy standing on the tee,
getting ready to hit.
You're like, where are they?
What are they hitting into?
It looks like they're just hitting straight into water.
I tweeted out 100 attempts.
I originally said if I got 10, I'd be lucky on the green from that exact spot.
Like, the more you think about it, I'm picturing myself taking 100 swings at that.
and I don't know that I get to 10.
I don't think you do.
I think you do.
Like hold the green.
If he's on the fringe, it doesn't count.
If he's in the rough, it doesn't count.
He's got to be on the green.
On the green?
Yeah, you've got to hit the green.
I'm just thinking safe balls.
I'm thinking balls on that peninsula.
I think you get to 15 or 20 balls on the peninsula.
Think about 90 balls missing that green.
That's so many missed shots.
90 of them.
90 attempts missing.
Yes.
I mean, that's one of those holes that you know the members and every time they have a
guest come out, they go, look at that, that T-box back there is where the pros play it
from.
And then there's just water all over the place.
I'd love to do that challenge.
I mean, I'd love to watch you.
I'm a zero because I'm driver every time.
And it's just not going to land on the green ever.
I'll say this, Frankie.
I think if you did it 100 days.
in a row you got one try each day you'd be at like three but i do think doing it a hundred you get in a
groove with the club and you know the yardage and i think that you can get up there i think at some point
i start smoothing as hard as i could like i would end up crushing a three hybrid or something and
like finding a little bit of a draw and maybe i get it up to the front edge maybe a couple times i can't
hit a three wood i can't stick a three wood on that green i'd have to try and absolutely nuke a three
hybrid. I'd have to try as hard as I could to nuke a three hybrids.
I'd like hope it's downwind. They said 233. So that was 233 sticks. I bet it was like
205 front. It's a pretty big green. Might be able to get a four iron there too. Yeah, exactly. I think
that's the club. You go four iron just heavy or five iron even and you're just trying to lob one up there
and hope. Because I saw someone hitting a six iron in there. So at the end of the day, like if we can get a four.
It was pretty firm. I think guys were probably, yeah, their number was probably two 15.
And like, yeah, if you miss it a little, you got to cover 205 maybe, like Lurcha's saying.
So, so, yeah, I mean, me, that I'm probably trying to hit a three iron as hard as I fucking can
and hope it lands in, like, the front part of the green and doesn't roll off.
I just know my, like, I know the way my life works is we would get there for this challenge.
Like, everyone at Eastlake would come out, all the pros and all the freaking superintendents would
stand around us and be like, all right, we have our cameras out.
And I'd step up there.
And the first one, I'd hit three inches behind the ball and duff it into the water.
and everyone would start laughing, my heart would get going.
I'd be, all right, I still got 99 to go.
And I'd be doing that whole mental dance for at least 10 to 15 shots.
So essentially, I'd be starting at 20 or something.
Imagine how incredible.
We've got to hit one here.
Imagine how incredibly it be if you miss 99 times.
And then you have to get it on the last one.
I don't know what, but that's the kind of drama that I would root for.
I would hope that you would maybe land on the green, but 99 misses would be.
This is just me, but what's the answer for like your average?
Oh, your average golfer.
Average golfer, your eight handicapped.
Like, what is an eight to ten?
What's a ten handicap?
How many times is he hitting that green in a hundred attempts?
Five percent.
Yeah, it's very low, man.
Like, to hit a long iron straight is maybe the least executed shot in amateur golf.
Yeah.
Some older guys, like, you know, if you're like an eight, like there's a huge range of, like, where your game is good.
I mean, a 200 plus yard shot, you're stretching most people in their bag to like an uncomfortable
club or a club that there's no stick to it.
It literally, one hops, and it's just to see you later through it.
So I just don't think that many people at an eight handicap have the game to hit a five iron or four iron that you mean to keep it there.
Who can win us or Jack Nicholas on this hole?
Who?
I would say us.
Thank you.
Jack Nicholas.
Jack Nicholas.
No, he can't get it there, man.
You see that swing?
He barely gets those drives off.
He's got an old man country club swing.
Let me, I was thinking this.
If I stroll up to a T-box on any golf course,
anywhere in the world with any grass or whatever around it,
and it says 233 yard part three, I'm laughing.
I'm being like, can't hit this green.
Like, there's no chance I hit this green.
And now you're just surrounding it with water and it's an island.
There's no chance.
Like you have zero.
in a real round of golf,
I would step up and know before I string
that this is almost no chance
that sends up on land.
What is, like, almost,
but what is that whole lot,
Cyprus? Is it 16?
Yeah.
So, like, how far is that landing spot?
Two, it's similar.
It's like two 30 something.
So like, how do you guys,
so the wind is, then your face?
Right, so how do you guys, like,
feel stepping up to that?
Like.
Awful.
Horrific.
zero percent chance.
And you both put in the water.
Oh, yeah.
I hit, I hit three wood on the screws
because there was like wind coming in the face.
So there was probably a 255-yard shot or something like that.
Jesus.
And the three wood came up short, like just hit the front, I think,
and then went in.
And then I ripped a driver and I pushed it right.
And I landed, I think, in like,
just never, never land off to the right of the green.
There's like these like flowers or like this like weird ivy stuff.
That hold up.
doesn't typically play that hard.
When Jake Owen played it, he sent me his video of him playing it.
Like he hit an iron into the middle of the green.
People got to realize, like, we were not only were Lurchin' I,
but we obviously, one of our boy Joshua, we all know,
he's like a plus one or two handicap.
I mean, he hit a three wood right at the flag,
and he came up short in the ocean.
So it was like, it was just ridiculous.
It wasn't even close.
Yeah, and Riggs, to your point,
like, if any one of us just played that hole once,
every day for 100 days.
I think our average is 3 to 5%.
But if you do,
or you're over and over and over it again,
I think you have a chance.
I honestly think the play is for your average golfer
is to pull one like dead left because then you're on the land.
And then you chip up and you just play it as a par four.
And just that's an easy chip from over there.
No, it's not easy,
but at least you're closer to the hole.
Like,
you'll get that eventually.
Rory McElroy couldn't even get the ball in the air out of this rough.
Where just your average handicap is going to chip it over the wall.
There was some great, then Trent, you're all mad.
I feel like as soon as they both happen of just really kind of, you know,
humbling golf from John Rom and then Rory with a couple,
while Rory's top in the water,
and then Roms just kind of thinner sand shot that hit the dirt.
Yeah, it's nice to see when they do that stuff because it's,
because the flip side is they're all just hitting into the middle of the green on a 233 yard
par three.
Like it's nothing.
Like it's absolutely nothing.
It was jarring today for whatever reason, as I was watching, because the announcers,
they hype it up every single time they show it, right?
Because they're like, oh, this is the whole 15 crazy, crazy hole, a lot of water.
And then it's anti-climactic because everybody just hits it into the middle of the green
or even closer because the pin was deep.
So they were just able to rip one and hopefully that I hope it ran out.
So yeah, when fucking Rory tops one or when ROM hits one into the lip of the bunker,
it makes me feel a lot better.
It's shitty for them, but it makes me feel good.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
It's nice to see.
I mean, everyone's sharing it, right?
That's one of those that gets, you copy the link and share it to every text group with all your golf buddies of like,
aha, this was Tim last Thursday.
Like, everybody does that.
So to see Rory, who's, you know, whatever, the number two, number three, right player in the world, do it.
It is, it also reveals the worst of Twitter as everything does, where you get, then the people
responding like, oh, anyone, anyone laughing at this doesn't understand how difficult,
Bermuda rough is, shut the fuck up.
It's just one of the best players in the world trying to advance the ball over a pond and he can't do it.
Oh, yeah, that's just like, what, Bermuda is, it doesn't allow that.
I just watch everybody else do it for the whole fucking tournament.
I get that it's difficult, but everyone else has got it over the water.
I agree.
I don't know why, but the first thing I thought up, and I know everybody saw it this weekend was,
Riggs, you just made that point.
And then Trent, you started, like, gagging.
that's not, you know, Rory's fault or whatever,
made me think of Jokovic,
and I'm sure you all saw it,
I feel like we should just touch on it.
It's not a tennis podcast at all.
But first off, everybody saw the video?
I did.
Yes.
People were blaming the line judge.
Now, that's crazy.
I mean, it's psycho stuff.
I mean, it's not the line judge's fault at all.
Like, the tennis ball was coming a million miles an hour.
Not their fault.
They're like, she's in perfect posture,
with her arms behind her bat, and then she got clipped.
Definitely.
And I'm hopeful she's okay because it was horrible.
Definitely not the line judge's fault.
Whoever says that, those people are crazier,
maybe even crazier than the golf Twitter,
which is hard to beat.
But as a guy who doesn't know tennis,
why the hell would they disqualify him for the entire thing?
That's where it doesn't make sense to me.
Like, logically, that doesn't make sense.
It's clearly an accident, right?
Like, he was just frustrated with what was going on.
He hit it, and it hit this lighting in the throat, unfortunately.
But, like, he didn't do it on.
purpose. That's what I don't understand. Yeah, I know. I thought a lot about that.
But it is so it's the rule is the rule. It's like, you can't have these people just like
smack in tennis balls at 130 miles an hour potentially in like the cage or environment that
they play in and potentially hit line judges. So a couple years ago, like the two things that I
thought of like, Serena got called for a footfall. And I think she said something along the lines of like,
I'm going to shove this effing ball down your throat to a line judge and got right in her face
about it and was like, and so then this little line judge who was this little gal was like,
and like put her hand up. And then the headline judge like, come on over here. And she told
the head on that she was scared for her life. And Serena said exactly that. Holy shit.
Now Serena only lost that point, which is interesting, because there was no physical harm to that
individual. The other instance that happened was the guy, the Canadian Shappeloff or whatever his
name is. Anyways, young player who's playing in the U.S. Open right now, lost.
the match, smack the ball, hit the chair umpire, square in the eye socket, head goes back,
head goes forward. He broke his eye sock boner, like his eyeball. It's like orbital bone
or whatever it is. So like, you do, you have to police it. Like, no, that's, that's all well and good,
but I like when, like, golf is this way too with some of the stupid rules that it has. Like,
common sense needs to prevail sometimes. And you need to go ahead. I was surprised the line. It's
probably isn't a popular take. I was surprised the line judge didn't flinch or get a hand up or something.
I just thought. You're horrible. I can't talk to you. I thought. I thought there was enough
to, the person didn't even move. I thought there'd be some sort of. Isn't that part of no movement?
Yeah, but isn't that part, isn't it like being a, what do you call those British soldiers,
the ones who stand there and they don't move? You can go. With the furry hat? Yeah, and you can be like
and they don't move. I feel like being a line judge, it's like a part of the gig is what it was.
stand there and not move and you have to be invincible, invisible.
Well, also, it was like if you're, she has to stare at that one line all game,
where it's like in or out based on where it hits on that line, and the game was over.
So now she gets a one break on her eyes, so she's not looking at Djokovic,
potentially walking to his chair.
And then he kind of just smacks the ball and drops it and it clips her to the throat.
I mean, she's not potentially even looking.
And then she got, you know, yeah.
We cannot be the one podcast that blames.
the lines judge.
No, I didn't blame the line judge.
I said I was surprised there wasn't a flinch.
That's all I said.
Yeah, and she also, I mean, that was one of the best acting performances of all time.
No one, when she went down to the ground like that, you don't think, I mean, come on.
Like KFC said today, it was, it was quite the scene.
I mean, didn't she take it to the throat, though?
Listen, Jokovic is in the wrong, right?
Like, I don't know about the whole weird rules.
Like you said golf has weird rules that I'll never get behind.
touching sand with your fingertips, the whole thing.
Like hitting line judges in the throat.
Listen, like, at the end of the day,
the fact that she felt like that,
like a fucking bag of potatoes was one of the funnier things I've ever seen.
It is funny.
But I also think we should hit Frankie in the throat with a tennis ball.
I'm one of the most dramatic people in the universe.
I'm thinking the same way about Riggs.
I'm thinking I should stand there with tennis balls.
And just Riggs will be like in conversation
because he can't really be looking at me
because that would give her credit
that she was actually looking my direction.
I'm saying she should have been like
head on a, you're on a fucking tennis court
with people.
There's tennis balls everywhere going around.
I was just, I'm not blaming the,
I'm not lying judge victim blaming.
I'm saying I was surprised
she didn't flinch.
When I saw the video, I thought,
no flinch whatsoever.
That's a little interesting.
That's all I'm saying.
So here's the video.
I stand at the service line.
Like in the middle of tennis court,
you stand behind the end line with your arms, with your arms crossed,
and you hold your hands behind your back.
And then I hummed tennis ball at you.
Why are you humming it?
He didn't hum it.
He just like hit it to the wall.
Dude, he hit it pretty good.
He just like dinked it over to the wall.
Again, let's put one on your throat.
There's two ways to think of this.
One, it's that Jokovic did the wrong thing,
and he deserved to get penalized for hitting someone
that was just trying to do their job.
job. And then the other side of it is that it is a very funny situation in which the line judge
got hit in throat because like that type of comedy to me, I mean, America's Funniest Videos is
one of the funniest video series of all time. Like just to sit back and watch it, like shout
out to Alfonso Ribeiro who came on the show. Like the fact that like people just get hit and
fall and fall through like little spots in their house or whatever and then the wood comes up,
hits them in the forehead. That's funny. So when I see a line judge take a ball to the throat and drop like
a sack of potatoes at the U.S. Open.
It's pretty funny.
Like, I mean, same thing when a guy gets hit in the nuts and you're like, you just
rewatch it over and over and over and over again.
No, that is just so jarring.
Yeah, and that is the kind of video that like bar stool lives on where it's like
everyone else is like, oh my God, what a horrible thing that happened.
And then you do watch her fall and it looks like she got hit by a sniper.
KFC's video today, his one minute man was so funny.
He's like, look at this fucking sack of potatoes.
Like Oscar, she saw the money signs.
Like she was in like, um,
like an Acme cartoon.
It was like literally like the eyes are like seeing dollar signs
because she knows that she's going to be able to sue Djokovic.
She did fall away that I was not expecting.
I will say that.
Like you expected her to just to kind of like go to a kneel,
but she sort of like stumbled and then fell backwards.
It was really something.
Yeah.
People love watching misery.
They love watching people get hurt.
And I mean, that video of when the Islanders gave up that double overtime goal
and I'm at Borrellys,
that's got close like a million views across the barso platforms like i mean on twitter was that
like a million the other day it's crazy that people will watch someone just die like they love
they love that when that lady dropped to her knee you knew it was going to be a viral sensation
and she's she's fine right yeah i believe so i haven't heard any of i think she's a light little tennis
ball of the throat she's a crazy person though i mean and i'm taking all of kFC's like stuff from his
grant but like jockovich had that like coronavirus tournament and like and then he like got coronavirus
because he didn't think it was like a real thing so jockovitch is kind of a crazy person at the end of
the day like i'm sure some of that leads leads into it and who's that other psychopath tennis player
that just gets disqualified for everything curious oh curios it's a guy we're supposed to hang out with
yeah he tweeted out like if i hit this lady in the throat how many years would i be suspended oh my god it was
like one two five or ten and like then the most of them
voted one was like 10 years.
Lurch, let me ask you, if this is just some no-name tennis player that does this,
is it because Jokovic is Jokov, he's getting defaulted or whatever?
If it's somebody, some regular average tennis player, do they get defaulted as well?
Yeah.
So, I mean, it happened to this guy Shappelov, who years ago he was a no-nameer.
Now he's like a top 20.
But yeah, as soon as you hit a line judge with the ball or racket, you're D-Qed.
The other thing, Frankie, though, that he missed in his one-minute rant was actually,
that Jokovic pre-US Open said something along the lines of like we need to have a like separate
tour like he was separating men and women's tennis from like equal pay and stuff like that he wanted
to be.
So he is a little nuts.
He's a little he's kind of, I don't know, misunderstood, but he's a weird, interesting dude.
He's just not well liked.
Isn't he just not well liked?
Like doesn't he also he, he's always bitched about like, doesn't he always use injuries whenever
he's losing?
he's famous for just like pulling out of tournaments.
Doesn't he always call timeouts and shit when he's like losing?
Didn't he do something to someone?
People are like he doesn't really need it.
Like he does all kinds of bullshit that people just eat him for.
Yeah.
Didn't he just like jump out of a match and then like the match like was no contest or something?
Didn't he do something where he stopped playing because he was hurt?
And someone got affected by it.
Like he was playing the guy and the guy didn't.
I can't really.
He certainly could have.
So if you're alluding to something happening,
because like to make these.
There's not, especially like the bottom half of tennis, there's not a lot of money.
And so there was a lot of discussion, and I forget the exact example.
But as soon as you make the U.S. Open, you're like guaranteed to make $50,000, which is big money.
And so some guys will say like, oh, I'm healthy enough to play.
And then they'll retire early in the first match just so they get that check.
So I don't know if that's what happened with him or whatever.
Yeah, the word retire.
I remember a guy retired in the first like, what does that mean?
The other guy didn't have like a chance to play.
It was like, tennis is a fucking weird sport too.
All these places, I don't know, these old school games.
They have these weird fucking rules, man.
Yeah, there are some weird ones.
Tennis stuff.
But I'm for the rule.
Maybe the punishment is too high.
But I don't know because like in the case of Schapel, like whatever,
he broke the dudes like orbital ball.
Like in this case, like the lady couldn't breathe.
Now whether you're going to knock on her acting skills or if it was real or whatever,
like you can't have them be like
if they're going to let out some frustration
just smack it into the clouds
and let the thing drop. I like a world in which
they can just fucking just
a fucking machine just
just fucking peppering people
and they drop it to the ground. I mean it's
at the end of the day. Imagine all the line
judges are diving out of the way and it's like they're
trying not to get hit. It's like Mr. Deeds
or he keeps hitting that guy. You remember
that episode of Jackass where they
went to fuck I'm going to
I'm going to mess this up completely but basically they
went to this place where they have, they can, they launch these oranges at a wall and like the guys are
standing, like trying not to get hit by it. That's how I picture Frankie's world in tennis.
It's wanting people to get hit. Oh, God. Too much tennis talk.
Any time it's about to get upset, the lines people will just be running for the streets if they're
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Before we get into hockey talk,
I just would like to say
that I posted my low round of the year
this past weekend.
I shot 74 and I did it with I've got one swing tip that I had going into it.
It's the only thing I thought about.
Only one swing thought.
And it was that I slide a little bit instead of turning.
You know, I'd like move instead of just like rotating back.
So the only swing thought I had the whole round was feel like my right hip,
because I'm a right hand of golfer, is moving to the left in my back swing instead of like moving right.
So just feel like your right hip is moving left and your back's right so that you actually like it just promotes turning around it instead of sliding to the right and getting off balance.
And I just played lights out and played the best round that I played all year.
And then of course I followed it up the next day, the first nine holes I played, I shot 45.
So that's called this beautiful game.
I also can't figure out what the fuck you're talking about.
Yeah, I know.
I'm sitting.
I'm sitting here trying to.
So when you're back floor pretty much.
Okay.
So like what's that?
you're almost making it move like to the target a little bit.
You're right.
Well,
you're essentially just like,
it's obviously you can't take a golf swing,
a back swing and actually move your right hip to the left.
That just like would be impossible.
Yeah.
So you're never,
it's the sensation of that is going to prevent it from moving to the right.
Because when you move to the right,
you throw a bunch of shit off and it's hard to get back to the ball and it's square
nature.
So if you actually move your hip and just rotate around it,
you're going to get a full return
that's going to promote a better ball strike.
So that's the only thing I was thinking about.
Where'd you get this one from?
Who'd you hear this from?
Well, Bertie told it to me.
Don't worry about it.
I mean, just read this on a fucking,
while you're sitting on a toilet or what?
I googled it.
Oh, there we go.
It's actually on YouTube.
I watched these fucking guys.
I wish I could remember the video had like 8,000 views
and there's these two British dudes from like 2012.
And I was talking about kind of like what was going on
my swing like a little flat like kind of slap it just not making pure contact and they're like
what happens if you slide just feel like your right hips moving to the dart and I was like okay
one of the rest is one of the truest and funniest things that nate bargatsy said on this podcast
is when you start looking at youtube golf videos on youtube you will get to the point where you're
looking at videos with 780 views and you're like this is it this is the one that I'm going to use
and because it you know it speaks to me and it's true oh man I
I haven't golfed in a couple weeks,
but actually last time was that wingfoot with Lurch
when he absolutely pummeled me into the ground.
But what I really want to do the next time I go out there,
and I just want to start fucking stop.
I'm never going to look at the pin again.
I'm just going to try and hit the middle of the greens
because I step up there every single time.
I'm this fucking guy that slaps the ball around.
I sometimes don't even make contact.
And I'm looking at pins from 160.
60, 170 yards out, literally staring at them as if that's where I'm going to aim.
Who do you think you are?
Who do I think I am?
Just go to the middle of the green.
I think because like when you're at the driving range and you see that big open field
and you hit those iron shots, like when we were at Atlantic City Country Club with Lurch,
we were all hitting shots, I had never felt more confident than when I was just aiming at
just like a very massive target.
Like just get it out there straight.
If I can do that on the golf course mentally, just be like, advance this.
ball straight. Just advance it. If I can do that and stop saying hit this ball 165 yards on the right
side of the green, I think I'll be a better golfer. And I think when I play my best golf, I think that way.
Like, all right, let's just fucking look down at the ball, look straight, find like what area you're going in and let's just
hit it. If your seven iron goes 175, just hit 175. Don't stop thinking about numbers. Stop thinking about
176. You're not that guy. If you're thinking of 176, yeah, you're not that guy. I'm not that guy.
I am, I'm thinking of that stuff.
I'm like, oh, fuck, I got to hit it a little bit harder to win.
I think your move.
Your moves needs to be more often.
You need to think middle of the green and you also need to think front edge of the green.
Yeah.
Like, you need to realize that if I just, if the front edge of the green is actually 162 away,
I need to hit just a 165 shot at least at the middle of the green and I will be fine.
Fine.
All day.
Because even if I three put, I still walk away with a bogey.
It eliminates your sevens and your,
eight when you're trying to hit this thing in the back right of the green you hook it now you're on the
next t-box and we saw it we see it when i play all the time i'm finding myself in situations where the
super's are like i've never seen someone back there before it's like you just have to stop when i'm
tripping from 80 yards away stop trying to chip this thing and have it stopped by the hole just get it
on the green just get it up there on the green there's so much room to work with give yourself realistic
and sort of vague goals vague target vague vague vague vague vague vague vague targets
You don't go for the pin.
You're going to fuck yourself.
Make it vague and you're going to be a much better golfer.
Vague.
You can't say vague confidently.
You just,
for some reason,
it comes off weird.
Vague.
Why are you,
it's like soft.
You're saying like bad.
You talk real perfectly and then you,
you slip into this like vague.
It's like,
it's soft.
It's got a round edge to it.
How do you say it?
Vague.
Vague.
Vague.
You keep doing like a vague.
It's like you have a tremble.
A tremble in it.
All right, here.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
Beg.
There you go.
That's aggressive.
I'll never be able to say that word correctly now.
I will say that I think that most people are going to be like, no, you're actually supposed to aim for really small targets.
You're just supposed to make those really small targets in areas with larger margins for air.
No, not me.
I will say, when I'm looking at people, like, think about their golf swing and talk about your hip, it almost fowls me up more because I've never thought about my hips.
in my life. And so now, like, hips. Like, that's just, it's a lot of, I'm just, a lot going on there.
Yeah, I don't, I don't need that. That didn't, that's rigs of swing thought, though. That's rigs of
swing thought. It works for rigs. You want to talk about, you want to know my swing thought? You want
know my fucking swing thought? You want to know my fucking swing thought? You want to my fucking swing thought?
I don't think about seven fucking years of this bullshit I've dealt with with this fucking hockey team. And we finally
made it to a place in which I've never seen.
1993, October of
1993, I guess they, I mean,
October, it was fucking, I was maybe,
so in 1993, I don't even know if I was born when this,
these playoffs were around. It was a 92, 93 season.
I don't think I was born.
I've never seen this. I was born in August of 93.
There's no way I was born. There's no way that season was going on.
Right.
So that's the coronavirus.
They've never once made it to this length,
this, this part.
They've never played for this length of a season.
I've never seen this much hockey.
my entire life, especially now with coronavirus.
They've been playing a full year.
I'm very excited on what I'm seeing from this hockey team.
They keep surprising me.
They fucking beat the Flyers in seven.
Everyone wanted to laugh at me after game five.
Everyone left after me after game six.
They said I was going to eat my fucking face off, my shoe.
My foot was going to literally go through my fucking mouth
and out the back of my throat because all the shit talk I was talking,
game one, two, three, and four.
But you know what?
They fucking pulled it out and they shut down the flyers.
and Kevin Hayes, the great one, the best one,
who's actually a close personal friend of the, of Barstall.
And, you know, I actually considered him a pretty good acquaintance.
I've dined with Kevin Hayes.
I enjoy Kevin Hayes around.
I enjoy his presence.
I was very happy to see us make him cry.
What do you think his reaction was to your tweet right after he got his season ended
and he saw you just.
I heard that he had something planned for me, like if they won.
Like he was going to fucking do something.
Like, Gads was like waiting until you see Hayes bury after Gap.
game seven. So I was very happy to avoid that because you know how the spit and chicklets crew
rolls. If they did something like we're shutting down Borelli's or something like I think
the county would have showed up at Bres and shut it down. Like I think it actually would have been like a
real life bad thing that happened to me had like that whole fucking engine rolled right through my
fucking life. I did not need that. I didn't need that. You know they were shut down your family restaurant?
Yeah, man. Kevin Hayes was going to do. Yeah, he was going to be like let's get this little group together.
Let's go there with like, like let's fucking show up in suits and let's just.
shut it down.
Jesus.
But now we got the campaign Lightning.
It's a fucking, we got this game in 40 minutes.
I don't know what to think about this series.
I mean,
we got Kevin Chattonkirk.
He's a big golf guy.
He's an ex-Ranger.
He's on the Lightning.
I actually like him.
I've gone back and forth with him.
They got a good team.
They got Ryan McDonough.
It's like all these Rangers are on this fucking team.
All the guys who the Rangers wish they could keep, the captain.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
I don't know what to think, though.
I don't know what to think.
I mean, the Lightning are a fucking Bay.
Lightning are good. Pat Maroon, who's St. Louis
Guy, St. Louis Blues, Stanley Cup champion
from last year, he was on the team. Alex Coloren, who's a teammate of mine in college.
One of my good buddies is on the Tampa Bay Lightning.
And John Cooper, who's their head coach,
I played for junior hockey, and we won a national championship together.
So I got some ties to both team.
John Cooper was a lacrosse coach at Hofstra,
and we were serving in pizza 15 years ago.
So hopefully we can beat this fucking guy.
I mean, I don't know.
He's the ultimate players coach,
He can't even like skate and he didn't play hockey at any decent level whatsoever.
And here every, every level of hockey that he found himself at, he's just a winner.
He was like honey-baked ham fucking, like, pee-wee hockey back in the day.
They won everything.
Then he goes to junior hockey in the NHL and he wins like three straight national championships.
Then he goes to the UHL, U.S.HL turns that team around Green Bay, I believe it was, and dominates up there.
And then he goes to the A and they won in the HAL when he was.
Tampa's farm team's head coach.
They won like 30-something games in a row instead of professional sports record.
And then now he became the head coach of Tampa Bay Lightning and they lost in the Stanley Cup
final that year.
And now they're back to this point.
So he has an insane track record of coaching.
But he is a player's coach.
Like he said, he's like a fucking lacrosse coach 15 years ago.
And now he's the head coach of Tampa Bay Lightning going up against your squad.
They've got to be heavily favored, aren't they?
Yeah, they're heavily favored.
Every single analyst is picking Tampa Bay.
I think one guy picked the Islanders and he went 0 and 4.
in the second round, like with his prediction, so he stinks.
But, I mean, listen, it's going to be, I said this today, you're not going to find an easy
matchup when you're just four teams left in the NHL.
You're not in the Eastern Conference finals and you're going to be like, all right, this is an
easy matchup.
I don't think Tampa Bay's thinking that about the Islanders.
I think they're heavily favored.
I think they're like maybe minus 155 tonight.
But like at the end of the day, the Islanders just outplayed the Flyers for seven straight
games. They lost three overtime games from tips and broken sticks and all this shit.
The Islanders have been an absolute force to be reckoned with. And I don't think if you're
Tampa Bay, you've been waiting around for the last week to play. I don't know that you're
like walking into this lightly. I actually like the I owners a lot. I think they're way better
than people getting credit for. And I thought that they dominated Philly. I thought even that
the game, the overtime, what was it, game six that they lost? They just dominated that whole game
and you kind of knew it was going to be a bad break the other way. And then they just shook you and
So actually I'm with you.
I like the Islanders.
Good luck tonight.
Devon Day is well of our voice.
He's a big time friend of the show program.
Yeah, shout out to Devon.
The little bit of hockey analysis that I've got is that I've been tuning in to some of these games.
And whenever they cut to the Islanders bench and they show, what's the coach's name, Trots?
Eric Trots.
He makes me laugh a lot.
So that's really, that's kind of where my rooting interest is because he just cut to him.
He's this bald old guy and he's just, you got the funniest looks on his faces.
That's really been the best part of the series.
He's got no neck.
He's got absolutely no neck.
He's just got a head, a bowling bowl head on top of some broad shoulders.
Yes.
And if you look at pictures of him when he was a player, it's fucking hilarious where he had like this long hair, this little bowl riding, skating around, just hitting people, just like checking people.
He's just, he is a character.
And also the funniest picture that's ever been taken with Barstool merch, I feel like, is when I got, I sent out these, have a Barry Merry Christmas, a very Barry Christmas shirt with him smiling on it wearing a Santa hat.
and he put on the sweater and sat on Santa's lap at the rink and smiled as he's sitting on
Santa's lap wearing our barstle sweater honestly one of the funniest pictures i we were in australia
when that got sent to me brought one of uh an american hero good guy who plays hard and loves the game
number 29 sent that to me in the morning they were like 18 hours ahead of us wherever the
fuck we were in australia which also for anyone wondering those videos are going to be coming out
but we have u.s. open videos that we're going to talk to you about a little bit but
I remember waking up, he goes, the best picture I've ever taken is about to come to you right now.
And I couldn't imagine what that's going to be.
And it's just this picture of Barry Trott sitting on Santa's lap wearing my shirt.
And I remember yelping.
Like, I couldn't believe what was happening on my screen.
It was so cool.
The crazy part is that was part of this NHL season.
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, shit.
Jesus.
Isn't that crazy?
That's insane.
Isn't that crazy?
Did you ask me, you're like, when was that season that they won like 17 games in a row?
And I was like, it was this year.
Was that you that asked me that?
Yes, because we were at Pinehurst, remember?
Yes.
We were watching it all the way from the brewery back to the Dornet Cottage.
And you were just watching on your phone on, I think it eventually ended that night.
But that was that also this season?
The Dornick Cottage, like when we were there, that was this season.
That's a joke.
That's crazy.
That was like a month into this season.
I went into this like playoffs being like it's a joke.
I don't think it's going to fucking work.
These guys have been sitting around.
I've heard all the players be like,
what the fuck are we doing?
We don't know when we're practicing.
Some teams get to practice.
Some teams don't.
I was like,
I don't even want to play this thing.
It's just going to be a waste of our time,
getting jacked up just to fucking not even watch a real sport.
And now of a sudden,
obviously the Islanders are winning every game they play,
and I'm changed my stance on it.
But also like,
it's just been like,
do you think about how much more,
how much more difficult it is to actually be where they are right now
than a usual year that.
Think about how long ago.
that was, they're still in the same season.
They haven't stopped that grind.
Even when they had to stop, like, even when the
coronavirus hit and all this stuff, they still have to
work out and, like, go through like virtual team
meetings and keep your mind focused.
At any time, you can go back and just jump into the playoffs.
This has been an absolute fucking grind.
Well, look, good luck tonight.
Thank you. Thank you for giving me the time.
I'm pulling for you. You got it. You deserve it.
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Okay, we got a bunch of from the galleries.
Acre is this guy's name.
Not like the measurement of land,
the unit of land, but
A-K-E-R.
Okay.
What are your guys' thoughts on wearing
headphones while hitting golf balls
on the range? I've never been a fan
of it. I like to be able to hear the strikes
and contact. Curious on your
thought.
I love it. I've seen people do that before.
Granted people used to do that.
I've never done it, but like it looks very
enjoyable. Like, if I could do it
and get into rhythm and be
happy, I would totally do it. I've never
done it. And I agree a little bit with the sound
effect, but I think you can still hear
that as long as you're not, like, blaring music
into your ears. Like, you can still
hear the contact noise and feel it.
But I think it's great. Like, if I
could do it and listen to, like,
the band or, like, some, like, very, kind of
like, easy-going listening.
Why can't you do it? What's preventing you from doing
it? I've just never done it.
Well, it's preventing.
So I shouldn't say I can't.
I've never done it.
But I would.
Put on some steely Dan and just go out there and start hitting balls.
I've never done it either.
Although, so I can't speak to what you can and can't hear in terms of contact of the ball.
But I do, I mean, my game is so bad that the sounds are so different when a good shot happens and a bad shot happens, that I like to hear the good shots.
So I would be against headphones in that respect.
But like you said, Lurch, I don't know how much.
that takes away from being able to hear the point of contact,
but I feel like it takes away quite a bit.
Also, I've never been to the range by myself.
What?
I've never been to a golf range by myself.
Really?
Never gone to just hit balls?
One of the more odd things.
I've always gone with a buddy or something like that.
I've never gone to the golf range.
You've got it by myself.
That's really interesting.
I think I'd say I've gone a lot by myself.
I mean, obviously you go with buddies when you're about to play or whatever,
but just like go out there and hit a few balls by yourself, you don't do that?
No, I've never done it.
You've never gone and worked on your swing and just been like, I'm going alone to like work on some stuff.
Never.
That's wild.
Can't tell you at times, like when I was growing up, I went to the driving range.
I don't think, like, growing up, if I never really played, but like I would go to my dad probably like a couple times a year.
And then when I started like playing golf after college, I would always just go to granted with like all our.
buddy so it was never by myself and I was never a member up there so I didn't have like access to the
cool range on the other side um yeah I've never gone I'm I'm like 99.9% positive I've never been
in the range by myself the times when we went to Chelsea Pierriggs like we would go together I would go
with somebody else um that's really interesting and crazy but I would recommend doing it because
it's incredibly therapeutic just goes so yeah that's absolutely awesome just to be in your own world
The headphones thing, I was going to say, I could see people being like it's a little bit harder.
But one thing I love about, if you're genuinely going to the range and you're like,
I'm going to be here for an hour, I'm going to hit a large bucket of balls,
and I'm going to like work on some stuff.
Like I want to find some stuff.
It's, I think it's huge to have headphones on because naturally at the range, you become,
everybody becomes a little bit self-conscious.
Like, does that person two days over think that I'm fucking awful because those last two shy?
All that stuff, it factors in, no matter who year.
It's why when we roll up to a T and there's two groups on it, like we all get rattled.
hit shitty shots. You shouldn't care about other people like what they did, but you do. And I have
noticed when I have had headphones in, probably only done it a couple of times. But A, it is just
kind of a fun therapeutic experience. And B, you actually
inherently with the headphones, you just block everything else out and you kind of enter
your own world. And I found it way more productive.
Yeah, I have like the most unstructurally sound golf swing, I feel like. It's a prayer
every time I go after the ball. Like I don't know what I'm doing. So anytime I have something
like in my ears or even when I wear glasses,
sunglasses, it throws the whole thing off.
Because like I said, like, it's a fucking miracle I even get to where I'm getting
to get that fucking club face to the back of the ball.
So if I'm putting any sort of thing that throws it off,
even when I wear like a bucket hat, I feel like, or like a visor.
I remember when I wore that visor for the kisser thing,
I couldn't, I was rattled about how it felt on my head.
I was talking to Trent.
I was talking to everyone.
Like, this is too big.
Like, it's heavier than usual.
it's throwing off like when I usually whip my head at the ball.
Like everything just,
I need to feel exactly the same every time I play the game of golf.
The fact that people can go,
when I watch Phil Mickelson play with aviators on,
it blows my mind.
I can't picture swinging and having that,
because they're so perfect that their head doesn't move at all
and like it's perfect, perfect posture.
Like my head's banging around when I swing.
If you watch all my stuff,
those glasses would fall off me.
I wouldn't know where the depth,
perception is like at hitting the ball because you have something in front of your eyes because like it
kind of like when you wear sunglasses it kind of zooms in just a little bit of things you know what I mean
you're looking through a lens I don't know about that maybe I will say I think it's funny that you say that
because like getting the club to wherever it needs to be I would say what are you you're an eight or
whatever yeah it's like I think I'm a nine point two now the best swing of all eight handicaps in the
world like your swing it it looks so good like when you swing it you have that like small wiry body
and your swing looks amazing.
Pretty, very pretty.
Right, and then it has all kinds of contact,
but it is, it's funny that you say that
just because I'm like, dude, he has like one of the more,
probably the most natural swing here,
like definitely the most natural swing here.
And you say like you have the most difficult time doing it.
Well, I have the most difficult time repeating where the,
dude, I was telling this to a pro the other day.
I think it was Matt Cherry Valley, who you guys met when.
Amazing guy.
One of the best.
but like I just can't get the club face to where it needs to be every time and like not even close and we struggled with this with bryson at beth page on the driving range when he was trying to teach me chip he was drawing a line in the ground bryson de chambot at beth page black for the pga championship and he's like hit this line don't there's no ball here take your wedge out and hit this line and i missed the line on different spots on different sides of the line all ten times i swung now it
can look pretty. I can have a nice back swing. I can have a nice follow through like Sergio. I
bring it all the way around my back. Like one of my friends says my back swing, my follow through
absolutely disgust him. He says I try and do like a four Sergio thing. My friend Andrews says he can't
watch me swing anymore. He says it's absolutely gross. But I can't, I don't know what it is,
man. I don't know if I have weak wrists, weak arms. I can't. You do. I can't. I know you fucking
do. I can't get it there. Meanwhile, I played baseball my whole life and you practice like on a T.
driving that front hand to the ball on the T.
You bring the knob to the ball.
You keep it inside.
Why can't I do that with a golf club?
It's a lighter club.
It's, you have a nice thick grip, a golf pride grip.
Why can't I get that club face to that line?
Or even close, or even close 10 times a day.
That sounds like a hard drill.
Like to hit a line, like sounds.
Lurch, I didn't even come close.
One swing was two inches back.
One swing was two inches forward.
Now put a ball there and that's a top and that's a chunk.
Right, which is what you do.
Which is what I do.
And then when I, when I hit one good, you guys have seen, I don't take a blade of grass.
It's not a, not.
You're right.
When I play with my dad, I played with my dad like three weeks ago.
And he, I remember he, like, I hit a shot from like 195 and I actually hit the green.
And he just was staring at the ground.
He never even watched it go up.
He was in the cart and he goes, you didn't take one blade of grass there.
You hit all ball, perfectly all ball from 195 yards out, not one blade of grass.
how do you that can't be good eh oh it's not the way to play i think hitting off those fucking
shitty ass rubber mats my whole life taught me to just pick the ball clean i never knew
someone out there is gonna have they're gonna have a drill for you to do to just learn to drive
the ball into the ground you know what they're gonna tell me they're gonna say put a tea in
front of the ball and hit the tea that's the one that everyone tells me now and like try and do
that try and try and try
and do that shit, right? Like, imagine
you talk about swing thoughts and getting in your own
head. Try and put a T in front of the
ball and just look at the T
and then hit the T. Like,
okay, like, oh, the ball's
in the way, dude. What am I supposed to do?
Balls in the way of that
tea. Oh, God.
Yeah. Yeah, poor Frankie.
Anyways, headphones at the range. I think that's
reason about, you know, I'm for it. Sounds
great, but other people probably can't do it. Okay.
John says, my question for the
boys is do you think your handicap is impacted by playing match play very consistently?
Do you think your handicap will be worse and how much worse would it be if you played every
ball to the bottom of the cup every time? I'm going to say like obviously it's just lower because
we play match play and if a putt's just going to be good. But I also think that it's,
it's not lower than the average golfer because I think that's almost how everybody plays.
Like if you're out there every, you know, once or twice a week that you play golf and you're
genuinely grinding in a metal play format to get to the ball to the bottom of the cup every time.
A, that's a miserable existence.
You must hate golf.
And B, it's just going to take forever every time.
So I think that, yes, the overall handicaps would all be a little higher.
But I don't consider a problem because I think almost everybody just does that.
Yeah, I think the same.
And then now I'm going to might not really, actually, I'll be up front.
I don't know this.
when, if you're doing that,
don't you enter that as a tournament score,
if you're playing everything to the bottom?
No, you enter tournament scores
when you play tournaments.
I've never played a tournament.
Boom roasted, Ben.
That wasn't supposed to be a boom roasted.
It was fine.
It was just answering the question.
Why did you think that, Lurch?
There's always that option.
Home away and then tournament
to enter on gin.
And I just thought, like, when you're playing everything to the bottom of the cup,
if you're doing it that way, it's just a tournament score.
Whether it's an official tournament or not, I just thought you entered out as a tournament.
Now, I never have.
I just seemingly enter everything pretty much as a way.
But Larch, like, when you played in the Granite member guest,
those rounds would be entered as, like, tournament score.
They would. Okay.
Yeah, because those are, like, tournaments.
Or, like, if you played the club championship at a course that you belong to,
or anything like that would be, I believe,
entered as tournament scores.
I think it probably matters on the format of maybe a member guess.
Yeah.
But it doesn't have to be like a USGA tournament to count as a tournament.
It could be, there's a lot of different things that could technically go into the tournament.
But it's basically the difference is it's not just a casual round that doesn't matter
where you could write down anything.
In theory of a tournament round, your score is significantly more verified and legitimate.
So therefore it gets more of a refund.
election on your handicap.
And if you enter a score in a tournament fashion,
is there a max number that you can take?
I don't think so, but I'm not 100% on that.
Yeah, that's kind of where I pause because I wasn't sure about that.
Because like I get everything else, but then like, can you enter an eight under a tournament
score or not?
I'm not sure.
That's a good question.
With the new world handicaps, I have no idea.
I'm not sure.
Things have obviously changed with a net double and all the other BS.
It's a good question.
I'm not really sure.
Trent,
the computer is just shining off your glasses.
I hate this.
I hate it.
I'd take that then what's doing to me.
I look like an albino species.
I'm at my brother's place and I have my phone light on me because without this, it's just pitch black.
I have this new streaming set up.
The camera's called green extreme and it's the worst camera I've ever seen.
It can't adjust to like, I don't know if it's a dark room and it's trying to compensate
state and really brightening me up, but fuck, I hate this thing.
No, Trent and I were part of like a haunted house.
It looks like I'm being interrogated.
Try to do some of those things on the wall where it's like the, you can.
Look at that.
Get your hand way out there, Trent.
Get a way out there.
Look how good mind is.
It's the bunny.
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Chris says, how loudly do you yell for?
I think I was six when I first heard my dad yelled it as loud as he possibly could,
and it stuck with me ever since.
So I always just yell extremely loud and yell four.
So do you consider yourselves like soft or loud, quiet or loud for yellows?
Well, everybody should err on the side of loud.
Let's start with that.
Everyone, be loud.
Don't be scared to yell for.
Although sometimes I know, like, you'll notice that the person hitting the ball is always the least likely to yell for because they don't want to believe that that's what's happening.
It usually takes the other people in the group to be like, that's headed right towards somebody's fucking head.
So we're all going to yell for.
Yeah.
He got to yell out.
He had a follow up, which is, which is, which he said, do you yell as loudly when it's not your ball?
or do you even yell at all?
And I've actually heard people say,
you should yell for,
which doesn't make any sense
that you would tell someone that they should yell for
because if you're telling someone they should yell for,
you should just yell for.
Yeah, no.
Oh, you're saying that you should say the words,
you should yell for here.
People, I've heard people literally,
like, if you slice it off to the right,
I've heard people in the group be like,
man, you should yell four.
And I'm like, well,
that is a time-sensitive, Jeff.
year. It's very time sensitive.
Like it was time sensitive as it gets.
And you're right. If you're saying that, you should
in the place of that just be yelling four.
Right. Dude, at Wingfoot,
I yelled four.
And then at the four caddies,
I said, I screen four. And then, like,
when I didn't think they moved enough, I said,
it's going to take your head off. I, like,
got that in there. Remember the guy, like, scurried away?
Yeah. And that just fucking rang through Wingfoot.
So I'm not, like, embarrassed. I mean, I'd rather
scream as much as I can and not.
and like just cover myself from like a law student or something like that,
then not say anything at all.
So I think people say or hey, Riggs, you should probably say four
because nobody wants to be the guy that has to like go over to them
and be like, hey, sorry about that.
That was me.
So I think everybody, as soon as that balls hit and going into another party,
are literally trying to like step out of frame
and make sure that that other group doesn't know who is me or somebody else.
So I think that's why people say it.
And I do think there's no reason not to.
to be loud when you're yelling for.
You should be as liberal and loud with your forecalls as possible because there's no
benefit to not doing it.
The only imaginable benefit is like if someone's on the green next to you or something
and they're not the ones in danger and like the guy's about the chip and you're just screaming
four all over the place, right?
Like that could rattle their cage.
But it's that, that shouldn't even be a factor.
Like we're talking about life or debt.
We're talking about like serious bodily.
harm here that could be done to folks and people don't want to yell four. Do you guys do the yell
like four right? Do you use the direction? I feel like I scream four and I look to see if they
looked up. I'll scream for again if they haven't made any sense. And then I'll scream like exactly
where they are like, oh, T-box four. Like what like I'll just try and get something to register into
these people's brains that it's coming right at them. Yeah. And I won't say four unless like the ball's
going at them at them.
Like if it's going to miss them by like 20 feet,
I'm not going to say four because I don't want them to scurry
and then potentially now get hit because I said four.
Also, you're an asshole if you get mad at someone for not saying four
and it didn't really come that close.
There's people that would be like, ah, I mean, that could have hit us.
Well, like, no, he didn't say four because he knew it wasn't going to hit you.
Like, I hate that argument.
Like, well, like, you guys that could have hit us.
Like, that was pretty close.
no it was where it was and we reacted from where it was like in another situation if it was coming
closer we would have said something differently yeah just a quick sorry like I didn't want to yell
for because I didn't want you to like run in that direction but I'm glad it didn't hit you or whatever
like also also a great also a great like all-time moment on the golf course when
someone says four and you're on the tea and you're like you're finishing and you're like no not like
that's not that's i haven't that's nowhere close to those guys like you say that under your breath
because you know it's not going anywhere close.
And then you get a little bit of a tiff with the guy.
You guys walk back to the car.
You're like, that wasn't even close.
I mean, it was 50-ard doors at.
But what's the point not saying?
You're like, well, I mean, I just wanted to be safe.
Why would it be?
Yeah, yeah.
It turns into a whole thing.
But it is true.
Like, you don't know how to, to Lurch's point.
Like, you don't know how to react necessarily every time when somebody else for.
Because if you, if you, like, jump to the left, you could now be in the ball's, you know, path.
Right.
Whereas if you just stayed put, so it's really a tough.
No, hearing.
Just kind of cover my head, I guess.
Yeah, when you hear four, it's terrifying.
Because you, you, there are, people are, they're saying to you, this ball is coming so close
to you that you're going to get hit in the head, but you don't know what to do.
Like at that point, when I hear four, I'm just like, whatever happens right now is going to
happen.
I don't know how to avoid it because what Lurch said, I don't want to move and then get hit
in the eye by something.
Like, you're hearing four, you're just like, I'm now at the mercy of gravity.
however and wherever this ball wants to go.
Could you imagine someone yelling four?
And then the next word is just like this gut screeching like no from the T
because you're like running into the direction.
It's like in Game of Thrones and that guy's trying to run away from the arrow.
And you're like zigzag, zigzag.
He doesn't zigzag and he spoil a little or it gets hit by it.
But like you just you just got to not move or move.
It's a horrible decision to have to make.
It's scary.
I usually just do the cover my head.
with my hands and my arms because I like to think that my those parts of my body can recover
more than if my head gets hit like if I break a finger that's better than breaking my brain
definitely you don't want them to the head no you don't want them to the dome piece but
four man four is a big part of the game yell four if you're out there listening well PSA just
start screaming fours all over the place uh okay I think we're done here Frankie you've got the
islanders in 10 minutes yeah good luck to you tonight I'm rooting for you very much
Thank you.
We have, I believe, a big guest coming up on Thursday show.
So a little teaser for the folks there.
We got a ton coming out with U.S. Open Week.
I think we have three, like, feature high production style videos around Wingfoot, U.S. Open, et cetera,
that we're going to have coming out in the next week or so leading up to and during U.S. Open week.
So people can get excited about that.
Travel Show, if you haven't watched that, go check it out.
And then Barstville Golf, the Society on PGA, 12.
were 2K21.
I think it's the Riggs Memorial or something.
Because it's the finest number two.
I played the course today to scout it out.
Because sometimes, you know, these are user-created golf courses.
And people just absolutely fucking, I mean, my DMs are a nightmare from when I pick a bad course or a good course.
It's insane.
If it's not playable, like these people go crazy.
We have so many, we have 60,000 people in this thing now.
So it's crazy.
It's a lot of people, a lot of, a lot of juice and a lot of action.
You're just all the same.
You're just all the sudden, Frankie, after like a week or a week and a half,
you now just make decisions that affect like an hour or two of 60,000 people's daily.
Yeah, I mean, like it's kind of like not all 60,000 people play in all the tournaments,
but at any given moment 60,000 people could play in these events.
We're making them nightly, so I feel like at some point they're all playing a one or two of them.
There's a couple of guys that have won like every tournament.
Like it's crazy.
This one guy, like Flackus or something like that, he's like, if you look at his stats,
he's fucking.
I think I'm just going to.
kick him up for being too good. I think it can, right?
He's played like 10 events. He's played 10 events. He's finished top 10
in 10 of them. And I think he's won like three of them. You just have to, as the commissioner of this
online society, you have to think about the repercussions and the precedents you're setting
with these types of moves. I mean, I won't. We're going to build a way in which it's going to
be more competitive. Like, it's not just going to be on PJ221. We're going to build a world around
this so that people can join different difficulties.
and settings. It's coming. Just keep playing in the events and get better. Stop complaining about
the greens and get better. Like these greens are legit. Like tonight's at Pioneers, I made them
firm and fast, which I probably shouldn't have done at Pioneers number two. And that's going to make
them a nightmare because I played them on moderate and they were already dicey. They were dicey.
And if you just play, you do get better. That sounds obvious. It's real golf.
It's, it's, you just, you got to get your tempo down. And sometimes I completely lose my tempo. And then I
get really discouraged about playing, but you get your tempo back. The more you play, you figure
on how to hit it out of the rough, how far to go back, what to do. So if you just play more,
you're going to get better and it's much more enjoyable. Dude, I played, I was streamed a little
last night. Also, subscribe to the ForPlay YouTube page. We're going to be streaming all the time.
I have this. I'm a gamer now. I have four screens on a desk. I have a capture card. I have an
OBS system. I have a PC setup. I've got three different systems. I've got lights. I've got cameras.
I've got the whole thing.
I went live last night.
I barely worked.
I could barely get the audio to work.
It was a nightmare.
But I played this mini golf course called like shipwrecked.
And Trent,
you even text me about it.
It's,
I found out because I messaged someone,
it's the hardest thing to build of all time.
I don't think we can build a mini golf course apparently.
This dude built the most fun mini golf course within that game.
You just have to like be a man and like not take a wedge out.
You have to keep switching to putter and just put around.
But fuck,
this guy made a mini golf course.
Like you wouldn't believe.
It was actually really fun.
But keep an eye off for that, subscribe to that.
It'll go live.
You'll get a notification every time we go live.
We're going to get everyone in the mix.
We just got to figure out the technology.
We can't figure out technology at this company.
Shocking.
No, that's long documented.
That's true.
So Islanders.
Join the society, get involved, have some fun.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
