Fore Play - It’s Time For Battle

Episode Date: August 8, 2023

Airlines. Europe. Aging. Ryder Cup choices. Battle has found the Fore Play shores yet again. Should JT be picked? Was Oppenheimer too long? Was Bryson’s 58 awesome? Can Frankie handle turning 30? Pl...us: Barstool Pickleball, Goo Goo Dolls, Trent at Billy Strings and Tyler Childers, and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Nives because he's always nice to the cross the green.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Bro, 100. Now you've got to break 90s. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99. And he grabs 100.
Starting point is 00:00:34 He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 a piece yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different? It's a hobby. All right, four play. Present right basketball sports. Brought to you by our great friends at Chevy.
Starting point is 00:00:48 I'm outside of the Barstville Classic here in Grand Traverse, just outside of Traverse City or maybe we're in Traverse City. My connection is probably a little bit to body, so I might be going in and out. But busy stretch, a lot going on. We got pickleball. golf we got playoffs we got rider cup drama we got all kinds of stuff going on so it's nice to see you fellows i'm excited to catch up and i'm excited to talk a little uh just got to talk jt i played in a pro am bryson shot 58 i'm at war with american airlines there's a lot of shit going on right
Starting point is 00:01:14 out a lot of shit going on we're wearing many hats we're flying around country countries i would say i'm going to toronto this week so we're international as well um yeah it's been uh it's been kind of a grind we're in the busy season riggs has been flying all over place playing liberty national playing Whams coming to the pickleball event. Yeah, we got a lot to get to. We do have a lot to get to. Yeah, you know, look, when you take, I think I've taken 58 or something, flights already this year, you guys are probably very similar.
Starting point is 00:01:42 You're just going to have issues. But I had back-to-back issues. I had Newark on Friday. I'm trying to rush to play a little bit of golf. Alex Bush, Captain Cons from Zero Blog 30. Our friend Kevin Hopkins are trying to play a little Twilight golf. Flight gets delayed an hour. and then I'm at the baggage claim at Newark,
Starting point is 00:02:02 and I get my first bag, and then just as I'm about to get my golf bag, I'm following it on the air tag, because I have the air tag situation, and it's just on the other side of the oversized baggage. They're about to hit the little alert thing, and it comes out, and then they just evacuate the whole airport. Just, they're just, the alarms start going off,
Starting point is 00:02:22 and out of nowhere, they just require you to evacuate Newark Airport, which I've never seen happen in an airport mind. our life. Oh, that's a nerve-wracking situation. It's got to be for a valid reason, though, no? So the best I could, they never really gave any details. They just had all the sirens going on. They made you evacuate the airport. So for about 15 minutes or so, the sirens continue to go off. The lady that's got the prerecorded thing is like, you must evacuate the premises immediately. And nobody knows what the hell is going on. And then they came back and they essentially just said, the fire alarm has been cleared. You may re-enter the airport. So then I was able to finally re-enter
Starting point is 00:02:58 the airport, go back in there, get my bags. They never actually said what happened. I'm guessing maybe somebody randomly pulled the fire alarm or something. I can't think of anything else. If somebody tells me to get out of an airport, if the alarms are going off, at that point, I no longer own anything. I'm out of there. Like, I don't, I'm not messing around with any of that.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Well, I was also worried, like, today I'm worried about everything. I was worried about active shooter. Like, is there a shooter? Is the shooter going to be like outside of the baggage? So then I'm like, where do I exit? Where's everybody going? And so it was kind of chaotic, but also I was like, I'm trying to play golf. I just give me my fucking golf bags.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So I actually didn't even run out of there right away. I kind of went over to the guy. I was like, hey, I got, you know, if I can just get this golf bag, you might save me an hour, two hours. I don't know how long they're going to make you evacuate this airport. So it was a weird situation. And then yesterday, American Airlines just maybe the, I mean, we've flown a lot. I've never seen anything happen like happened yesterday with American Airlines in my entire life. I can't even explain it.
Starting point is 00:03:55 They couldn't explain it to the point where they just gave me thousands of dollars in vouchers within 30 minutes of it happening because they knew they fucked up so badly. What was it? I don't understand. So I arrive at the airport at Newark, an hour early yesterday, which is standard. Like, I have first class tickets. So you go to the first class line to check your bags. So there's never any weight. And then got TSA pre and clear.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It takes five minutes to get through security. Take a million flights here. This is where I do every fucking time. hour early, check my bag. So I arrive an hour early. I check my bags and check in probably 55 minutes before my flight. Zero issues. Check the bags. I get a boarding pass. No issues. The only thing that's a little bit of a flag at this point looking bad is they give me my boarding pass. My boarding pass says, see gate agent for seat assignment. I'm like, all right, that's a little weird, but like whatever, it's chaos out here. So if that's the worst, it happens, no big deal.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I go through security. I get through security in five minutes. I'm at the gate 45 minutes before the plane's supposed to take off 15 minutes before they even start boarding. I go up to the gate agents, and it's two ladies working, and they're flustered. I can tell right away they're a little bit flustered. And I just say, hey, here's my thing. It says this. They go, okay, we're just trying to sort a few things out. We'll call you up when we have it.
Starting point is 00:05:08 I'm like, okay. Well, 10 minutes goes by, they start boarding, pre-boarding, right? All people limping on there, military, everybody's great. Then they got like the priority people, which, I mean, at this point, we're all, on platinum, whatever status on American. And I'm like, I should be boarding at first class. I get nothing, group one, group two, group five goes through. They get to the point in the boarding process where they're telling people now that the overhead bin space is full.
Starting point is 00:05:34 So they've got to check their bags. So people are losing their minds. Like, I don't want to check my carry on. So they're dealing with all this chaos. And I'm sitting here like, I'm not on the plate. I don't have a seat. What is happening here? And so I go up there and I try to talk to them.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And they're flustered trying to deal with all these other people. And they're not handling it well at this moment. The ladies are like snapping back at people. People are not happy about the check thing. It's chaos up there. And meanwhile, I'm like, I don't have a seat. So eventually they're like, you checked in too late. So your seat was given to someone else.
Starting point is 00:06:04 And I'm like, what? I've been standing here for now. I've been at the gate for 30 minutes. The flight doesn't depart for another 20 minutes. I look on my Apple tag. Again, my bags are on the plane. So I'm like, what are you talking about? I checked it too late.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I check my bags. Everything's fine. And they're like, we just have to sort all this out. We're going to try to get you on the flight. I'm like, no, I have a first class. seat on the flight. They end up not letting me on the plane and they oversold overbooked the flight. So all the seats are full and I have to make a connection in Traverse City like an hour after I'm supposed to land in Chicago, but I'm not even on this flight. And so I'm just standing there.
Starting point is 00:06:39 They close the doors and then they start to try to deal with it. And I can tell right away, they realize like, oh shit, we weren't supposed to do that because a manager shows up at that like I didn't call or anything, but manager shows up. And in this moment, I'm doing like, we've been through this enough that all I keep telling myself, because this happens frequently enough, I keep telling myself, like, act in this moment like tomorrow you, who's at Traverse City, would want you to act, because the next day, when it's over and you've gotten to where you've gotten, you look back, and you're like, yeah, it wasn't that big of a deal. It was infuriating in the moment. So I'm trying to, like, stay calm, handle it. I call Kyle, who kind of books a lot of our stuff now, and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:07:16 look, worst case scenario, I can fly to Detroit on this eight-something flight. I can get a rental car, and I could drive four hours up to Traverse City. it stinks but like I can get there and so then this the manager comes over and they're like whispering talking and I hear the ladies afterwards debriefing about what happened the one lady's telling the other lady about the conversation with the manager and she's like so he was very upset and he told us that we messed up many different things but the main one is that we absolutely were not supposed to deny him boarding the flight and I'm standing there and I can hear this and I'm like yeah I think that's probably right like I have
Starting point is 00:07:53 out of first class ticket. I'm supposed to be on this flight. And so then they go into total panic mode and they're trying to get this voucher. And she ends up getting my personal number, the lady at the gate, and books me a flight on United, that thing gets into Chicago. But I have to run to get on the flight to United. And it's leaving an hour after my other flight was supposed to take off. So unless the Traverse City flight is delayed, I'm not going to make it on the Traverse City flight. Now I'm stuck in Chicago, which is a five-hour drive instead of a four-hour drive. And it's going to get me in at like four in the morning. So anyways, she ends up booking me this United flight. So I have to sprint, catch a bus, sprint again, and then try to get on the United flight, which amazingly
Starting point is 00:08:32 ends up occurring because somebody didn't show up to United Flight. So now I'm in 34B on the fucking United Flight. And then we land. They sit on the tarmac for 15 minutes waiting for a plane to leave our gate. So I'm 100% going to miss that flight. I fucking get there. I'm doing the whole, hey, I got to make a connection. I got to make a connection thing. And everybody's cool. They're letting me go through. it's now 840 and the other flight was supposed to leave at 838 but it says it's delayed till 850 and I'm like well there's no way I'm going to make it but I'm going to try because I don't want to drive fucking five hours and rent the car so I get off at O'Hare when I tell you there couldn't
Starting point is 00:09:07 be two gates on planet earth that are farther away from each other than these two gates at ohair I was in like C fucking two or something and this one was L20 which I didn't even heard of an L dude I'm fucking running and you realize how out of shape you are. I'm running for like 45 seconds about as fast as I can run. And then I just have to walk. Like if I don't walk, I'll just die. And I'm like, I can't just die in O'Hare.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Like, that's not possible. And you kind of like, you build up again. You run for like 45 seconds straight as hard as you can. Dude, tunnel after tunnel, I would make a turn. It'd be like, it'd be like, J, K, M, and L gates are this way. And it just never, never said that I was to the L terminal. Like 20 minutes go by I'm running I'm like sweating
Starting point is 00:09:56 panting I'm trying to get the cart people to drive me around Because the cart people there's just parked fucking carts you know And like and like and the cart people are like yeah unless you got an injury And I'm like I'm gonna have a fucking injury do you see me right now running Run and run and run and it's 20 minutes I run across this airport like And now it's like nine o'clock I'm like there's no way I finally get to the gate I'm dead My right knee gave out so I'm like limping up to the gate I'm sweating for usually and they're just finishing up boarding so I somehow make this fucking Traverse
Starting point is 00:10:28 city flight I check my email I've got a two thousand dollar voucher that American airline sent me sent me a two thousand dollar voucher because of this mistake the flight only cost like 600 bucks so I end up barely making the flight and then when we land I was guessing all adrenaline was going we land I go to stand up and my right knee just gives out like my meniscus or something just like didn't like just wouldn't handle the running that I did. So I'm like, I'm like one leg of trying to get off this fucking plane. And then Rob, social Rob picked me up and we just hammered over to this Taco Bell at like 1230. It was open till 1 a.m. destroyed Taco Bell. Woke up this morning and my recovery for someone
Starting point is 00:11:08 that didn't drink and got like almost six hours of sleep, my recovery was like a zero because the strain level and Taco Bell level of my body was in such shocking shape. But boys, they just gave my seat away and wouldn't let me on the airplane for absolutely no. reason on American Airlines like zero reason. That's an absolute scene, dude. That's an, you painted an absolute scene. What a tale. My biggest, my biggest takeaway
Starting point is 00:11:32 would be if anyone has footage of rigs profusely running through that airport to try and make it to that to try to make it to that flight, I need to see that now. I need to see all of it. I need to see every, I need to see every interaction trying to get on those fucking little golf carts.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But I was just, yeah, that was insane. I literally, my shirt. was so gross. It was, there was like one or two guys that I, as I'm sprinting by, they were like,
Starting point is 00:11:59 bar stool. And I just was like, oh, like I could, that was like the only thing I could mess with just. It was just a fucking tough. That's just a fucking tough. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'll never get an answer. They just gave my seat away and wouldn't let me on the airplane. I just don't. Yeah. Yeah. It's unacceptable. Yeah. It's unacceptable.
Starting point is 00:12:19 It's unacceptable. It's unacceptable behavior. The airports are out. of control jersey jerry tweeted out recently is like everyone keeps saying covid's over but if you've ever been to an airport it's not like like these airports just have not recovered i don't know what happened everyone's brains got reset or something because like things are just not working the way they used to everything's back we're back but we're not back we're still in the midst of this thing people's brains are foggy i feel very lucky i i don't i don't run into that many problems at the airport
Starting point is 00:12:48 I really haven't. I don't know why that is. My bags usually get there. My flights are usually on time. The only, I missed a flight like a few weeks going out to Arizona, but that was my fuck up. I guess I got there a little bit late. I mean, they were running slow, but like overall, I usually have a pretty good airport
Starting point is 00:13:03 experience now going forward. I'm sure I'll miss every single flight and I'll never, ever get on an airplane again, and I'll never get my bags. But so far it's been pretty good. But I can obviously feel it. I'm in airports enough where they're definitely understaffed. They, you know, these ladies that you ran into last night, rigs, they're just trying to deal with whatever's going on.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And we've gone through that before where it's like, you don't want to yell at the people who, they're not purposely causing it to happen. It's just they're understaffed and they're trying to figure the shit out. Yeah, you're Trent, you're 100% right. You don't want to be like the guy that's yelling at the folks. So I also, it's, I hate being like human because I would love to just be a machine in this point and be, and be able to like either stand your ground or not. And what happened was like when the when the ladies, like I said, they were not handling the original rush well at all.
Starting point is 00:13:54 I could say they were overwhelmed. It was chaos. And they were snapping back of people. It wasn't good scene. Once the chaos got onto the plane, it was then they turned back into like remorseful people. And once I saw them get reprimanded, I felt very bad for them in the moment where I was like, well, that sucks. Like they, I don't think they were trying to screw up. They just whatever happened happened and it didn't go my way.
Starting point is 00:14:15 But then, like, the lady got my phone number and called me twice to make sure I made both of my flights. And I felt very bad and was like, thank you for all of the help, even though, like, you kind of fucked me and made me have to sprint and almost have a heart attack four times at the fucking airport. Super fair. Yeah. Chevrolet. Chevy EVs in particular. Just absolutely changing the game, Trent. We love Chevrolet and Chevy as a trusted brand with innovation and scale.
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Starting point is 00:16:07 Justin Thomas fell short of the playoffs. Just short. Just short of the playoffs. It was a miraculous, I guess you'd call it finish. That just came up short. His little out of the trees hook, punch. out was tiger esk where it was a ridiculous recoil and spin around and pirouette and then he lips out on his chip to make the playoffs he falls to the ground in a reaction that we've never seen
Starting point is 00:16:34 in professional golf before it was like something that would come out of a foreplay video i love think about the reaction you did like it i loved it i mean it was like watching a four play video it was a guy that really wanted to make that chip it made me it made me think like he's a guy that doesn't make those all the time and like he really wanted to go in obviously that's not the case he does he can chip in from really anywhere. He's one of the best players on the planet. But it meant so much to him just like for us, that one time we ever chip in
Starting point is 00:16:58 the greatest elation feeling of all time. He needed that to drop. And it just shows how fucking hard this game is. It's like you can do everything right. He felt like he was playing great golf. Some bounces didn't go his way. Listen, I've seen both takes on Twitter. I get it.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Like a lot of people are saying, yeah, it was a great little comeback. He made the cut. He battled back in the rain. He never should have been this position in the first place. He was one of the best players in the planet has fallen off, had a horrible year. He doesn't deserve to make the Ryder Cup, blah, blah, blah, all of this stuff. The guy still has it in him.
Starting point is 00:17:29 He's just, he's going through a rough patch of golf, but he's proven that like he wants it and that he also has it in him. Those shots that he was hitting coming down the stretch was incredible. I mean, he was showing flashes of JT. That was J.T coming out on Sunday. Maybe it wasn't falling for him. Maybe he wasn't going as low as he wanted to. obviously he didn't because he didn't make it but fuck man like how how you can watch that as jack johnson and not just include that guy on your team is crazy to me i think he completely solidified
Starting point is 00:18:00 his spot in the rider cup with his performance this week and it's just great theater like you don't get that like a guy trying to make the playoffs a guy of his caliber grinding at the end to try to make the playoffs and it's amazing to me that last chip um just how close these guys can get it when they have to make it like if i'm standing over that ball and i'm like i got to make this to accomplish whatever like break 90 or win a match or do whatever my chip doesn't get even close like i sail it or i chunk it they are so precise that in the moment when it's like i have to make this to accomplish what i want to accomplish it misses by a millimeter that is so incredible the shot before it was incredible yeah i thought it was great those people who were saying like oh you
Starting point is 00:18:45 know he should have never been in that position anyway whatever he's a guy in a funk like he hasn't been playing well. But if you can't enjoy that final hole that he played, then you shouldn't even be watching the sport. You should be watching something else. So I think he should be on the Ryder Cup team as well. He wants it. He's just going through a little bit of something right now. He's going to regain
Starting point is 00:19:03 that form. He's far too talented, not to regain the form that he's been in in the past. So I thought yesterday that was just a ton of fun to watch. And if all these guys, it seems like in this group, have gone through similar things. You've got Justin Thomas going through right now. Ricky Fowler, Jordan Spieth. Yeah. Smiley
Starting point is 00:19:19 Kaufman. They all went through these like really, really rough patches where they had it. They were the top of the game and then they just fall off like a steep cliff. And you're like, how the hell did that happen? I just don't put Justin Thomas in that category yet. I don't think he's falling off. Yes, he had a bad year. We can look at it. He missed a cut a million times. Like, I get that. He's not like he has not had it Justin Thomas year. But when you watch his actual rounds of golf, it doesn't feel like he's that far off. It's dudes. We're giving him the benefit of the doubt. we are JT guys. I am a JT guy.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I have definitely given the benefit of doubt. He has not gotten to that point yet. I'm not considering JT a lost cause like we did with Ricky for like four years. And like we did with Speath and like we're saying with Rory where he hasn't won a major. Like we're not, I'm not pinning any sort of narrative on Justin Thomas just yet. I don't think he's gotten to that point. So for him to get all of this hate,
Starting point is 00:20:11 yes, he's not making the playoffs, but he, for anyone to watch the way he's playing golf right now and say that he's like in a, Like in a certain like like his game and his like where his his his game is at right now is a certain place. I don't think that's fair yet. No, the speed and Fowler stuff lasted years. Years. It was like three years for speed, four for Ricky.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And it was at a certain point you kind of, you didn't forget about him. But it was very odd when they just like disappeared off the face of the planet. A JT's thing has been going on for a couple of months. And I don't think you certainly cannot pin that narrative on. him yet and I don't think it's going to happen because he's just too good and maybe it will happen but I think he's going to make the rider cup team they're going to they're going to pick him and he's going to perform and he's going to go crazy there's going to be viral clips of him making putts and people are going to forget about this three month stretch that he's been through I totally see both
Starting point is 00:21:08 sides I get that this only comes around every you know a few times in guys careers and guys that are playing to the caliber that they deserve to be in over Justin Thomas's year I get that people, fans of those guys and those guys in particular in their families, they're going to be pissed off if Justin Thomas is picked over them. But like I said last week and like I said the week before, what you've done in the Ryder Cup has to account for something. It can't just be how you're doing leading up to it. That can't be the only like requirement for making the team.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Being an all-time Ryder Cup player has to account for way more than people. are accounting it for. It has to. Or else it's all like for nothing. Like the way you perform in past rider cups, you're basically meaning like that means nothing in the future. It means like, how you performed in a world series. Like they do this in every other sport. Guys are better in certain positions, right? Like that's why you're like a closer in baseball. You come in in certain positions. Justin Thomas is a closer for the United States rider cup team. They bring him in certain positions regardless of how he is, they know that he performs in that position well. I don't know why that's so hard to say. I, uh, against all odds, boys, I heard everything that you guys
Starting point is 00:22:19 I heard every single word. I agree with you. I very much agree with you. Look, I looked at up. Justin Thomas's career record in the Rider Cup and President's Cups is 16, 5, and 3. He's also 14th in the USA standings for the Rider Cup. They take 12 players. So it's not like he's 35th in the points and there's a trillion guys.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's like if it just went purely off the point, he would be the second guy out on the points at this point in the entire thing. and like you said, it's not like he's playing horrific. He's not having to take time off of golf. Yes, he posts the bad scores and the majors. Yes, he's not even close to where he wanted to be. Yeah, in terms of four or five month bad stretch, it's all time bad stretch for him. But we saw him hit the shots.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And I've seen plenty to believe that he can rise to the occasion. And what's really been hurting him is if you looked at the British Open, he made that like nine on the last hole, he made that, like in the format that they're pretty much going to, play jt b and j t and make it a bunch of birdies and having these sick eagles and then mixing in the occasional like horrific shot where he hits it out of play or whatever doesn't even fucking matter you got a partner out there who gives a shit so i think he's an absolute lock i do i feel like you guys are probably getting it as well but the live bots that are literally just robots that you're
Starting point is 00:23:38 talking to on twitter they love the like troll the jt thing and i enjoy i enjoy i enjoy thinking about how fired up I get sometimes when a live bot with like a blue checkmark trolls me and I want to get upset and tweet back at it. But like I'm just tweeting at an algorithm that is being run by somebody's like robot computers somewhere. And I don't want to be doing that. So I think he's an absolute lock. I think the fact that he said, I want to make the Ryder Cup more than the playoffs. It's really, really messed up thing to say, which it's not a messed up thing to say. I think almost anyone watching agreed with that. You would obviously rather play in the Ryder Cup than than make the playoffs for the most part
Starting point is 00:24:16 unless you're like maybe maybe a bottom 3% guy that really needs that money and that money could be life-changing in the FedEx Cup but I don't even know that any of those guys would rather play in the FedEx Cup than make the Ryder Cup team. So obviously those things are kind of a line. JT making the playoffs would have very much increased chances of making the Ryder Cup team but I think he's going to be on it
Starting point is 00:24:37 anyways I think at this point you have to put them on it. As a pure viewer and spectator, I think you have to put them on. it. The way that he plays the game, shot shaping, the emotion that he has when he fell down on the 72nd hole, when his ball almost went in, when he hit that rope hook out of there, like, all that stuff is just more fun to watch. And it's more drama. If they just pick some boring guy that goes out there and doesn't really, doesn't really move the needle. But technically on points that her family's going to be happier and believe that it's more justified. Like, that kind of
Starting point is 00:25:07 sucks as a viewer. I would way rather just CJT out there. And they haven't won in Europe in 30 fucking years, I believe it is. So they kind of need a lot of juice. You're going to need J.T. You're going to need your guy. And if you pick J.T. and Jack Johnson, he goes out there and doesn't bring it, I don't think that's on Zach Johnson. I think, like, you've got to trust your guy that when
Starting point is 00:25:26 he retires in 20 years from now, or 30 years from now, Justin Thomas will be known as a U.S. Rider Cup legend. He will be known as one of the guys, probably a top three or five guy in the history of the U.S. Rider Cup team,
Starting point is 00:25:42 from this generation. I mean, Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson aren't even known as good Rider Cup guys. They got shit records. J.T. is going to be one of the main guys when he retires. You cannot go over to Europe two years after the biggest win in a long time in the Ryder Cup on U.S. soil, going over there
Starting point is 00:25:57 in the enemy territory where you've had no success in three decades and not bring Justin Thomas. You've got to fucking have it. No doubt. Shout to Lucas Glover for winning the damn thing, the window. Yeah. Nice to see that guy get a W. I really hope I really want a Billy Horschel win
Starting point is 00:26:13 But Billy Horsesel yeah He's been knocking on the door He's also been going through some struggles With his game feels like he's been up and down He was missing a bunch of cuts Not performing well in majors And it's nice to see him back He's got that did he still that gray beard
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah he's got the beard still Yeah he's got that super nice beard Yep salt and pepper He goes through like he looks like Christian Bell And he's going through all the Christian Bell Characters right now you know what I mean I feel like he's going through like Batman Beguer
Starting point is 00:26:39 Gaines Christian Bell. Yeah, he does. He's going through with these like different looks. I think it looks better with the beer than he does clean shaven. For sure. It just looks more, I don't know, prestigious. I don't know if that's the word. The prestige.
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Starting point is 00:29:18 Enter to win that three-day three-round golf trip to Myrtle Beach. Frankie, speaking of movie, did you, you saw Oppenheimer? Oh, I saw Oppenheimer, Christopher Nolan, prestige. So we're just nailing all of the connections right now. It was a masterpiece. It definitely was a masterpiece. piece. I wouldn't consider it one of my favorite movies of all time. I think it's a little bit too much like you got to pay attention and like love the historical facts of like court cases
Starting point is 00:29:54 and like who was trying to screw who over. But it wasn't as like in your face as I needed it to be for me to be like, whoa, like blown away and like on the edge of my seat. I didn't feel like I was in edge of my seat for like an hour and a half of it. I definitely was into it though. I felt I found everything very interesting. I thought the acting was off the charts. Obviously, the big scenes were some of the best big scenes you can ever have in a movie. Like, the scenes that they needed to nail, they nailed it. The way that Christopher Nolan, like, chose to shoot some of those scenes is, like, beyond my comprehension to even, like, think to do it that way. Like, that stuff where I was literally sitting the movie theater in an IMAX watching these big scenes and being like, I was saying, like, wow,
Starting point is 00:30:40 out loud. Like, and people in the movie theater were groaning being like, oh, like, I'd never really heard a theater like that. And this was two and a half weeks, three weeks after the release. So people had heard things about it. And you like, you're expecting to get something spoiled of, you know, what it's going to look like. And it just fucking, it delivered, man. It's a great movie. It's definitely a little too long. I don't, I haven't watched Stephen Chase's recap of it yet. I probably should. But, um, yeah. I just thought that, yeah, I thought there was a lot of it. It was like, it was almost like the whole movie was to really just like save Oppenheimer's name.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And it was like for the last hour, it was like they were really going a bat for Oppenheimer. And you're just like, all right, I get it. Like I get that like he kind of got screwed. And like we've like kind of already gone over that. I don't need. It just felt some of the inside baseball stuff was a little too much. But it was good. You seem underwhelmed.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I can feel it. not it's so weird because i was not underwhelmed by any of the stuff i wanted to see i loved what i i went there for like building an atomic bomb movie and i got it and i was like that's a fucking unbelievable movie and then there was all the rest of the stuff where it's like i get that i should find this stuff interesting but like it's not really that great and then i mean it definitely picks up towards the end where you're like oh it's all starting to make sense i get why it's all this stuff it's in different colors and different timelines and like you get it at the end, but there's a part, anyone that sees that movie can't say that there's a part of it that's
Starting point is 00:32:10 like, all right, this is dragging just slightly. I don't really care about this guy's perspective of the Oppenheimer bomb. You know what I mean? Maybe like a half an hour of it was too much. Just a half an hour. For me, I, like, that's my favorite part of it. Like the building the bomb stuff, like I get it. They built the bomb. I know it. When they do the explosion, like I've seen a mushroom cloud. Like, it's cool to see it in theater, obviously. But for me, like, I don't go up for that. It's not fast and furious. I don't need all that. For me, like, as a history guy, and I love that stuff, like, the moral and ethical
Starting point is 00:32:42 struggle of, like, the people that literally built a nuclear bomb and then are figuring out, like, where they lie morally about the usage of that bomb once, like, the Nazis are eliminated, and if you should use it in Japan, and then if they should continue to go on, or should you actually use the bomb as a deterrent and try to have, like, denuclearization? Like, to me, that part of it is, like, that human struggle and that insane, like, dichotomy for these guys between, like, they spent years just trying to build the bomb because if the bad guys build the bomb first, like, the world's over, like, all the bad guy movies that we watch of, like, of Star Wars or Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, where, like, if the bad
Starting point is 00:33:28 guys win, they're just going to ruin the whole earth. That's, like, what they were facing in the moment. and they had to build the bomb before the other guys. Otherwise, they're just going to, like, the worst people ever just going to run the earth forever. And like, and then all of a sudden those guys are gone. Now we have this thing like, we did it. We built it. Like, what the fuck do we do with it?
Starting point is 00:33:44 And how all of that was manipulated. Like, to me, I love that part. I thought that part was fucking great. I thought it was fascinating. I thought, like, the whole system and how the system can be used to ruin your reputation. And so that other people can elevate themselves, like, I live for that shit. So for me. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:01 So that part is great. The first part you just said, I agree. But that's only like less than a third of the movie. Like the more the morality of it, where they should do it. I'd say like more than half in the movie was about Oppenheimer's reputation and who and was he a spy or not. The whole the hour after the bomb going off being like, was this guy a spy or was he not? And like really, really getting into the nitty gritty of like what party was his wife a part of and like all that stuff. I just thought that that could have been kind of like glens.
Starting point is 00:34:31 We get it. These guys were trying to ruin his reputation because another guy wanted his reputation and they were all kind of pissy and like it was in a back room closed hearing. Like we didn't need a back room closed hearing about if Oppenheimer was a fucking spy for an hour. That's just a little bit too much. But to me, I love that because that is identical to today the same shit that goes on. Like when people disagree or people want to like scar other people politically, they don't actually
Starting point is 00:34:57 go against their issues or theories. They literally try to ruin their. character and it's amazing to me that like a hundred years ago or 80 years ago they were doing the exact same shit except to the guy that built the nuclear bomb and like to me all of that system and how it unraveled and and how it occurred and the fact that they chose to do it not in front of the media and the fact that it was in the back and that like all of that got exposed and then you in the lens too of like his relationship and like bringing up his conversation with like Albert fucking Einstein to people like all of that coming together like I just I found that part of the
Starting point is 00:35:31 it awesome and I get that like some of the back and forth and court hearings are incredibly boring and all that but like tying it all together to me I was like on the edge of my seat trying to get to that part at the end I love for that part I got to see it yeah you know I just haven't seen it I'm just a guy a third guy on the show that just hasn't seen it the first two guys have seen it I have not and I think none of this will deter me from seeing it I will say that I think it's still I want to see it if I had to give it a light's camera podcast barstool podcast rating a movie rankings.com rating. I would probably say 92 out of 100 or like 91 out of 100.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's a damn good movie. Not saying that any of the stuff deterred me from thinking it was a fantastic all-time movie. I think it's great. I think it's phenomenal. I left it saying that was an unbelievable movie, lived up to the height. Just I would have liked to see like there's like parts where they're like, where are we going to drop the bomb like and that was like a two second clip. Like to me like that part would have been like way more interesting about.
Starting point is 00:36:31 about the morality of why we're going to drop it. Like, what happened in Japan after it was dropped? Like, I want to know, like, how he, they use, like, imagery and, like, beauty to show, like, how he felt after it, as opposed to, like, really diving deep into it. You know what I mean? It was, like, a couple of quick scene about, like, how he felt. And then you almost had to, like, look at the way Christopher Nolan shot it to understand how he felt, as opposed to them being, like, right in your face, being, like, this was bad.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Like, this was, like, the beginning of the end. You know, like that part I thought should have been an hour's worth of like, how did Germany react when that happened? And like, what kind of conversations were happening around the world as that happened? Instead, it was almost like implied. But then we got like details about if he was a spy or not. So I'm not saying it was bad. I'm saying it was phenomenal. 90, 91.5 out of 100 for me. It's not. It dropped 0.5 in the last two minutes. Yeah. It's not. Well, I didn't know if I said 91 or 92. So I'm going in between. I got. I saw. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I saw La La Land for the first time in a long time the other night. And that's a phenomenal movie. That one is like, you've never seen La La La Land. You might not like it. It's coming from a guy who just saw it. No, no, for the first time in a while.
Starting point is 00:37:40 I saw it in the movie theaters, but I rewatched it. I remember that being like a top movie for me. Yeah. No, I'm just, yeah, 91.5 for me. All right. That's good. There's better out there. No, no, that's good.
Starting point is 00:37:52 That's a good rating. Yeah, obviously I loved it. I feel like you loved it too. I did some complaints about it, which is totally fair. We're talking, let's keep going on this. At the Wyndham Championship, which I love that event, talked about it a lot last week, played in the Pro Am. We shot 13 under in the program, pro Am. Had one of the weirdest, one of the weirdest rounds of golf probably for a pro am that you could possibly imagine.
Starting point is 00:38:14 I mean, I think I made like, I think I made like five birdies. I shanked a seven iron out of bounds. It was crazy. It was a crazy round of golf. Our team was great. We had a really good time. 13 under. I think we finished two back from the actual winners.
Starting point is 00:38:28 so we were red hot. Fat Perez's team shot 12 under, so we beat their team, which felt really good, played with two guys, Brendan Todd, and then Cam Champ, could not possibly play with two different people in terms of their golf games. Both really nice guys, not a negative word to say about him. Brendan Todd was surprisingly, like more chit-chatty and engaging Cam Champ. He wasn't in any way like standoffish, but he was definitely a little bit quieter, a little bit into his routine. Brendan Todd plays Brendan Todd type golf. know it, we see it. He doesn't hit it very far. I think he's like low two 80s on driving average
Starting point is 00:39:03 on the PGA tour, which is very low, hits it straight, hits it unbelievably consistently, hits at the right distance, makes putts. He finished like tied for seventh or something this last week. Cam Champ plays exactly Cam Champ style golf I've seen. He's one of the longest hitters on planet Earth. The first hole, he hit a drive like 340 uphill into the right side of the fairway. He hit like a wedge to this far from the hole made birdie two holes later he like shanked a six iron out of bounds on a part three made double and then two holes later he went three woods and he hit a six iron from two hundred and twenty five yards or something and made eagle so his game was all over the place i saw cam champ missed the cut brend and todd finished like i said i think like top ten or top twelve somewhere around there uh so playing a pro am always fun hanging with those guys always fun but it was wild to see two totally different styles of golf and then from Frankie, I feel like you would really enjoy this, but saw Google Dolls in concert. I don't know if you're a Google Dolls fan at all, but I was kind of tweeting about this. I was putting it out.
Starting point is 00:40:04 The lead singer is 57 and literally looks and sings like he's 25 years old. It's the most impressive thing I think I've ever seen in my entire life for somebody of his age. Yeah, I mean, they slap. That's a great band. They got badgers. They're legends. Yeah, they are one of the best of that era for sure. The Google Dolls have always been a really, really good band.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Man, his voice is just, I forget his name, but his voice is phenomenal. John Zznik or RZ, it says RZ, so I don't know if you say the RZ, but it's John RZ EZ in IK. And I was, I love the Google Dollars. That was like I was saying, that was like my high school like mixtape kind of band that like you put a couple of those songs on there, Iris, Better Days, some fantastic jams that they've got. And so you're kind of getting in your feels during the show. But when he came on and he had busted up. his foot. So he's in like a boot and he just sat on one of the boxes that they transport all of their musical equipment and instruments in and just sat there and belted out these songs for a couple hours.
Starting point is 00:41:07 And it was insanely impressive to the point where we're looking at each other like, did they get a new lead singer that's 25 years old and the old guy like a Leonard Skinnerd situation? I might have to lose Riggs here. I don't know how much longer we can go with the in and out. It's not in and out to people listening, though. No, I know. Yeah. Yeah, we're giving him runway. He might be gone. He might be gone, gone. Good luck to whoever's editing this, whether it's Alex Bush or Kyle Tim's. Because people can hear it, but we just can't hear it. So if he, like right now, he could be talking in real time, but we're talking about. I don't think so. I think he probably
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Starting point is 00:43:40 My dad would come home. And he would basically like just film my sisters like doing concerts in the house 24-7 essentially. And like there was there was one yesterday where they were dancing to like Michael Jackson black or white. Yeah. The song there. And they, and in the background was MTV. And I was like, and I'm watching like they're watching the Michael Jackson music video. and they're dancing to it.
Starting point is 00:44:03 They got the hat and they're doing the whole thing. And I'm like, was that like on MTV at that moment? Like to me, that was such a crazy. Like you see such an all time. Like you see the MTV logo. It's on an old school TV. And I'm thinking like that just, and this is the dumbest thing ever said.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Like obviously that just happened live. But to me that's so retro and like nostalgic. I'm looking at my sisters being like, what an amazing time you guys grew up in that like MTV was like legitimately music videos would come out. And like, that's how you saw the music video and heard a new song was like you turned on MTV and whatever that number one new song was. That was it. And they were like dancing to it.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Like to us, it's everything's so accessible now. Songs come out on new music Friday on Spotify and like you have to go and listen for like an hour to listen to a new song that you like. There's just so much, almost too much where it's like not that big moment anymore. I don't even listen to the radio. I don't even know what number one in the radio is anymore. I caught the tail end of MTV still playing music videos. I've vividly remember that. Like I remember like when into club 50 cent came out you would watch the Hummer drive up the road and it was like oh they're they're playing it.
Starting point is 00:45:08 TRL was a huge deal in sync backstreet boys like that was my era and it was you were watching MTV like live like you would put on channel whatever it was 53 or whatever and you would be sitting there 27 27 you'd be sitting there watching it and hoping that like your favorite song came on next absolutely wow oh yeah and you would and TRL was obviously a countdown and you would and TRL was obviously a countdown and you would. would want to see what's number one this week back then it was always like in sync or backstreet or Eminem was huge back then like yeah you would sit around and wait and I and there was one can't get spoiled no there's no way on Twitter first no one's reading it Twitter was even a twinkle in in the internet's eye at that point so yeah no you're just watching Carson Daley who we've had on the show and I was like legit starstruck when we had him on because he's a huge part of my childhood and it was just yeah you would watch and it seems silly now because like you said that everything is so accessible,
Starting point is 00:46:02 I can literally look at my phone and watch any music video that's ever been made. But back then, you would just sit there and be like, what's going to be number one? Oh, did so and so get knocked off? What's the new music video?
Starting point is 00:46:13 And back then, Axe would put actual thought and money into music videos. Some guys still do it now, but it's more of like, it's like a retro thing. But back then music videos and then becoming popular and then being cool and looking cool
Starting point is 00:46:27 was a way to gain popularity because it would be on a show like TRL and be like, oh, I want to see that new M&M video. Oh, I want to see that new, you know, Nelly video. It's the world is so much different. And it's, yeah, it's just not like that. How do we get back to that? How do we get moments?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Impossible. How do you get moments where it's like the only time you can see something? Is it just sports? Is sports the only thing we have left where it's like the ending isn't spoiled or like the moment that you're waiting for you don't know what's happening until it happens. I feel like even if you watch an award show, the Oscars. They tweet out every single winner beforehand, right? Like, I mean, only like my dad's era would, like, sit down and watch an award show and not know who's probably going to win based
Starting point is 00:47:09 off of odds from a sports book or whatever. Like, you just know what's going to happen that night. There's really no, like, surprise or like your favorite thing. You're like waiting for it to pop. I don't know. I'm trying to think of an example. Like, I don't even know if I live my life in any way, except for sports where I'm like, I don't know what's going to happen tonight with my favorite thing. You know what I mean? Like, well, what's happened? with the internet what's happened with streaming is a lot of fragmentation where there's so many different fan bases for like niche things like with with streaming now they drop an entire season so not not everyone's watching it at the same time that was a big part of it and game of thrones was
Starting point is 00:47:46 huge probably the last big one where you are being forced to sit down on a sunday night with the rest of the world and watch it that was very much like 100% right but now with streaming when you drop like eight episodes at all at once, everyone is watching them a different time. So when you're having conversations with people on the street or with your buddies, you're like, what episode are you up to? It's not, holy shit, what happened in episode seven? It's, I don't want to talk about the show if you haven't watched the whole thing. Now, it's, you can still have that. Like, if HBO came out with a new show that just grabbed all of society and was like, you have to watch this, I think that's still possible. I still think there can be a popular big Sunday night show that comes out once a week and we all
Starting point is 00:48:27 watch it. It just doesn't exist. right now. It was Sopranos when I was in high school. Everyone watched the finale of that show. Everybody. And if you weren't watching it, you were a loser. Game of Thrones was that way. Obviously, that was the biggest show that ever came out. And every Sunday night, if you didn't watch, you got it spoiled on Twitter. So it forced you to watch it that night. That show just doesn't exist right now. It's something, you know what it is? It might be something like Oppenheimer or Barbie, where you got to watch it. Everyone has to go to the movie theater. If you want to be in on the conversations about it.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Like I was just sitting on the sidelines for the last 20 minutes because I haven't seen Oppenheimer. But if you want to be in those conversations, you have to go watch it. Yeah. Yeah, I guess in retrospect, what I said was pretty stupid. Like, there's definitely still moments. It's, it's TV shows. It's movies.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's, I mean, when your favorite band puts out an album that you're waiting for, like I was waiting for the fucking Food Fires album. But it's just different. It's like, I guess the simplicity of like sitting down and watching a channel that everyone's watching to see what is number one for that week. That part to me is like, on like the rankings of things is like done you know what i mean like because it's all just on twitter like i don't yeah i wish that we could go back to that because i'd like to experience
Starting point is 00:49:36 that of being like like arguing with my buddies being like this has to be the number one song this week there's no way it's not and then everyone's sitting around on like sunday night trying to see like what are the what's carson daily uh tonight going to say like is the number one song in the country like we just don't have that at all it's just it's a tweet it's a fart now It's not a moment. Nothing's a moment anymore. Everything's so fucking fast. I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:49:59 You know, you look at it and everything is better, quote unquote, like everything's more accessible. I have every single phone or every single song that's ever been made on my phone. You would think, like, when we're back in the times that we're talking about, you'd be like, oh, I want to go there. And then when you get there, you do lose the moments of, like, when an album used to come out, I would have to go to Sam Goody and buy it and unwrap it and put it in my car. Even I didn't have a CD player. Which is worse for. lifestyle you got to get in your car you got to drive there you got to buy it you got to come back but it's so much better in enjoyment you're working for it you're grinding for it you're like it's all you're
Starting point is 00:50:36 thinking about you're driving there to get a record and you're coming back and you're like i'm gonna play this thing and i'm going to listen to the new songs i haven't heard snippets of it on their instagram i haven't heard like tracks that have been released early on like sound cloud i'm like i don't know I don't know anything about my favorite new CD. I'm going to put it in this little CD player and we're just going to listen to it. That's so, that's so cool to me.
Starting point is 00:51:01 You do lose that. You want to see a titty now? You go on Google, you just type in titty. I'll look at a titty right now. I can look at a titty right now. No problem. No questions as you know how hard you probably have to work for to see a titty back in the day?
Starting point is 00:51:13 You had to like go to the store and buy a titty. You had to buy a, like, you had to buy a magazine and like, and sneaky like look at it in your car or something. Dude, I remember. I'll fucking look at it to you right now Dude I remember when I came up like around Limewire and Napster and those download
Starting point is 00:51:31 You would download songs and stuff But you could also Yeah but you could also download porn And what we what I would do Is I would start downloading a porn before school And then I would go to school And come back and it would still only be like 75% downloaded But you could preview it
Starting point is 00:51:47 And watch however much has been downloaded That's how but it felt like It meant more You're sitting at school being like, come on! Gotta get home! That reverse cowgirl is downloading right now. And I would get home and I would get to enjoy it. But it's all part of the same thing what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Like the accessibility of everything all at once takes away some of the magic. And there's no going back to the old times because people wouldn't want to be back there. Because people do want it. I want it and I want it now. And now that people have gotten a taste of it and have gotten used to it, that's what it is going to be until the, The sun explodes. You know what makes me sad too is the, you watch home movies.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And so we basically film everything with our phones. You go to any single sport event. We film it with our phone and everyone's doing it because you want that video. You want that memory. And I don't get on people or like, I think that's fine to be able to like want to have the moment and show that you were there. It's like the reason we do anything is to like show people and make people jealous.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It's really like what Instagram is to be like, I'm here. Here's my photo. Oh, yeah. You're not here. That's like the only. reason so successful. Um, so I don't really get on people for doing that too much. But the thing that we lost with that is like, you go back and watch these home videos and like my dad's sitting there
Starting point is 00:53:02 or like my aunt in this last one we were watching was just like filming the whole birthday party, right? And like they're passing around the, so you're seeing like everything. They're zooming in on uncles faces and cousins faces and they're like watching everything. There's no like little snippets. There's no photos. There's no like seven second videos. It's the whole party. They had a, they have a thing of my second birthday party, it's the whole thing from beginning to end. They're just passed around the camera and people are just filming for like 13 straight minutes. And you get to sit there and really be in the moment, like 30 years later, you get to be in the moment and make, oh my God, there's grandpa. And like you're just, you're just watching him just like live there, sitting there eating.
Starting point is 00:53:39 We don't have that anymore. Like no one's doing long form video like that on their phone. Everything's like quick pictures and like panoramas and portrait modes. Everything's like high quality and quick and obviously like TikTok's like seven seconds and 18 like quicker the better. We don't have that like long form like home movies are are not a thing anymore. Like when I have kids, it's going to be a bunch of like photos on my camera roll. Unless I legit like bring back the camcorder days. Like that's what I might do. I might just like do that.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So you see people like, um, I think Hank around the office before everybody moved. He would bring like an old camera in and take pictures and the pictures look incredible. Yeah. Like it's just now everything is 4K HD. When you take a picture on your phone, you're like, whatever. But when it's something about that old nostalgia feel, you should bring back the camcourt. I think people listening. I'm sure people do it.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I think we should bring back camcorders for like families and birthday parties. Because when you get older, it's great for your kids and your grandkids to be able to sit there and watch. It's not, it doesn't like hit the same on the phone. Like you show someone a picture on your phone. You look at this. And you're like, okay, that's awesome. Wow. You see it on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:54:47 It's not like, let's sit down and watch. your second birthday party. That to me was so crazy. My mind was blown. I'm like, look at you guys. My dad's like young and fucking he's got like his hair slick back. They're all on me in the pool. I'm like, if you sent me a photo of that, just look at it for a second and be like, oh, that's a nice memory. But I was like living it. I think parents listening to this right now should go get an old school camcorder and a bunch of tape and just start filming these things, man. Just film for like forever. And then you're going to have it forever. You're going to be able to live in that living room that you were filming in you'll be able in 20 years you'll be able to
Starting point is 00:55:21 go right back i'm sure i'm going to get a lot of messages being like dude i do this like i am sick of like doing these quick snippets i wanted long form memories bring back long form memories well the thing too with the camcorders when like your parents were using them that was new technology they're like this is awesome like let's film everything now we have the ability to film everything but we don't film it for the right reason it's yeah no it's it's very strange but like i went to my camera It's just a bunch of like, we were at the Pickleball event and I have like nine,
Starting point is 00:55:51 six second videos of things I'll never watch again. Like it was an amazing event. We'll get into it. But like it's not there. I can't even like process what that was when I'm looking at this. It's just a million pictures and video. It's nothing, nothing is of substance.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Well, I've been trying to, so I've been going to, I went to a couple concerts recently. I went to Billy Strings and I went to Tyler Childer's. Tyler fucking Childer. Bro. I didn't even know he was playing in New York City.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I didn't know he was playing in. then I just tickets appeared and I was like I'm going to that wow I'm going to that on Thursday and I went and it was fantastic I've I've been wanting to go to a Tyler Childers concert for years now I got into him like post-pandemic him Sturgle Simpson like they like opened my music brain and I wanted to see Tyler Childers and he was playing at Radio City Musical a place I'd never been before so I got to see Childers at Radio City Musical and I didn't take one video I took a couple of pictures but those videos that you take on your phone for a concert,
Starting point is 00:56:47 I don't know what people do with them. I definitely don't go back and watch them. I would prefer to just sit there and enjoy the music and then that's the memory that I have. When you look at it on your phone, the sound is not nearly the same. It's just not. So I didn't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Took a couple pictures, brag to people on Instagram that I was there. And then I sat there and I watched it. And boy, can that motherfucker sing, man. Just fills the entire room. Immediately. He sits down and just
Starting point is 00:57:15 belts and it's it was one of the best concerts i've ever been to i was like got chills the whole time the first two songs after he got done he played two acoustic songs to start the show and i just said to myself i'm having the best fucking time the way that guy can sing it's just unlike anything i've ever heard before so that was that was an amazing experience and i have no videos on my phone of it because i didn't want them and it was just a memory that i have in my brain now it's amazing it's amazing no i i uh yeah no it's something that like our generation's going to have to really fight through it. It's not going to get any easier. Everything's going to get way, way worse when it comes to just quick, accessible,
Starting point is 00:57:57 like, oh, go to these events, but really just take fit, like, like capture it electronically as opposed to with like your actual emotions and your brain. That's what it's going to turn into. Like, I mean, we're already seeing it. Apple's coming out with all these vision pro, whatever, and they're going to want us going there to these events. with basically goggles on that's going to film the whole entire thing. And like that I guess will be our long form memories to be able to look back and see being like, look at what my actual eyes were looking at. But there's still.
Starting point is 00:58:26 I guess could be cool. I don't know. Maybe. But there's still nothing like going and seeing it in person. If you just fucking sit there. And again, I sound like I'm 100 years old, but I still took pictures. I was like, look, I'm outside Radio City Music Hall. Look, I'm in the theater.
Starting point is 00:58:41 But then once it starts, I just sat there and stood there. And I was like, just fucking let it hit you in the face. Let that music hit you in the face. Don't let it hit your phone and then hit your face. Just let it fucking smack you right in the face. And that's still the best way. We did that with my wedding. We made my dad put his phone like basically in the locker because at my sister and
Starting point is 00:59:00 brother-in-law's wedding, they, he is in every single picture with a big flash and his phone. And I'm like, dad, you're just, you're not even, he does go back and watch the videos. He sits there and watches the videos for, like. like all night. And he's like, I'm getting better videos than the videographer, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:59:19 whatever he says. But it's like experienced it. So he experienced our wedding, thankfully, where he was like present and like not filming. But yeah, no, it's,
Starting point is 00:59:28 it's an interesting conversation because, um, it's an obvious one. And it's, it's a fight that I guess the older generation has been trying to fight for a long time. And, um,
Starting point is 00:59:36 I just think that we should try and include it a little bit and like not forget about it. You know what I mean? It's something, it's like a, it's a memory, art form almost where you're you're really really showing like what was happening at that time as opposed to these quick snippets that I do like I like taking photos. I like taking quick videos. I get it. I'm a part of this new generation. I think it's all good and well and I watch fucking Instagram Reels and TikToks all
Starting point is 01:00:00 night. I understand that it's addicting, but like we still can have a little part of what made our childhood so great, I think. Watching those home videos is awesome. And I think that this generation should have that also. I don't think that we should stop that. We are kind of of we're kind of dealing with competing ideas though because what i what i'm saying is don't film anything and what you're saying is film everything but like don't film anything like i get like a performance is one thing like i do think you should be present for it but i just think like because like you're not going to go back and i guess you could go back when 30 40 years and watch that concert and like go back to that time like if you sat there and filmed the whole entire
Starting point is 01:00:37 thing but i'm gonna bring you back i'm gonna this phone's gonna die the iphone 28's gonna come out and that stuff's just going to go away. I don't know what the cloud is. I don't use it. And it's, and it's just like that stuff's gone forever. Home videos is really what I'm talking about, where it's like figure it out, figure out how to capture exactly what was happening at those parties, at those big celebrations. Don't just resort to like the quick photos and like an Instagram filter and like a Snapchat field. Don't put grandpa in like a, in a baby Snapchat filter face and be like that was that was it. You know what I mean? Do there is something really cool about people passing a camera around because you're getting all these different angles like it was it gave me the chills i was
Starting point is 01:01:16 yeah that i like that i like the individual eyes like i'm we all have our own phones now we're all holding a camera yeah we all are just sort of like looking at something but having something that then you pass to your uncle you passed to your cousin they know you saw who was holding it and they're like yeah that's pretty cool shit that's it was cool man i i'm definitely going to do that like i'm gonna start doing that i'm gonna start fucking i'm gonna be like uh christopher nolan walking around here or or what's the movie i just uh it wasn't christopher nolan it was um Spielberg, his new movie about like himself. Oh, what's that called?
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Starting point is 01:04:43 maps in the morning. I was like, that has to be the one. And I went to the wrong one. So that facility is also beautiful. And then the one that the pickleball open was at was incredible. I didn't even know that places like this existed already. Like I had heard from other people that most pickleball places right now are a little limited in seating. Like there's courts popping up everywhere. But a place where you can actually kind of sit and watch and observe the people playing, the pickle and part that you had the open at was perfect for that. And yeah, there were a bunch of courts. Everybody had a good time. There's, you know, there's, golf simulators there. There's all this different stuff. And the first pickleball open, I thought,
Starting point is 01:05:19 was a major, major success. Everybody had a good time. Everything moved very smoothly. There was an opening wave in the morning, and then a later wave in the afternoon. And everything was pretty seamless. Big Rob did a great job. You did a great job. The event staff here at Barstool, who helped with the classic a ton. They did a great job with the signage and the food that was there. Your dad came out with the Borrelli's pizza truck. And there was, what was the barbecue place. Steve smoking barbecue. Yeah, they were out front slinging food for people in between games.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And the cool thing I thought was people will bring their families to watch them play pickleball. Like there was a legit crowd there watching these guys play. And yeah, it was my first experience really watching pickleball, watching competitive pickleball. And it was super, super interesting and really, really fun. Yeah, it was definitely our twist on a pickleball tournament. I've been to a couple. My friends have all been to a bunch. bunch, big robs deep in the pickleball game, my buddy Kyle, Nick, they all play like crazy.
Starting point is 01:06:18 So they've been pushing me to do this. And we were nervous about your first event with something like this, whether it's tennis or pickleball, whenever you have a sport where you're trying to do like a round robin matches and make sure that everyone gets enough games in, going into an event like that, you're kind of nervous about scheduling and pace of play. And at a lot of these pickleball events, guys are sitting around for 30, 40 minutes, sometimes to an hour without playing a game. One of our things that we really wanted to make sure was like, all right, in this morning
Starting point is 01:06:49 wave, we've got 80 players in the morning wave. Each team is playing five games in their pool and then they'll advance to a playoffs and then it'll be single elimination. And that was the best part is everyone was playing constantly. I think at one point someone came out to us like, hey, we haven't played in like 25 minutes, just letting you know, like, this game's taken a while. So like if we can hop on there next and we accommodated them, we're like, all right, we'll skip this team that just got off.
Starting point is 01:07:11 but Big Rob, he's been like a hilarious character in the Barstool world, especially on this podcast, where I didn't know how he was going to handle all this and he fucking nailed it. He knocked it out of the park. Big Rob had the schedule down, all the scoring, point differential for the playoffs. Everyone knew where they were going, you know, Pool A and Poo were on court one and two. And he had the whole entire thing. He nailed it. It was seamless. People are coming out to me saying they've played in pickleball events for the last two, three years.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Never have they played in one like this. And for us to get that kind of compliment in our first try with limited funds and all of that stuff, it was kind of like a proof of concept. I could not be more excited. Franklin was on board. They brought all their new pickleball paddles. And the signage there was incredible. So we're hoping to expand this thing.
Starting point is 01:07:59 We have two more locations that we're signing contracts with, hopefully in the next week or so. So those will be announced fairly soon. But if you're trying to keep your schedules open on the East Coast, I would say, late October, early November to try and make sure that you don't have anything big planned if you're trying to play in this event. We had people fly in from all over the place, Detroit, Texas, it was Philadelphia. Everyone was traveling to this one pickleball event. And then the biggest takeaway for me was the morning wave was like the 3.0 to 3.5 skill level. Then we had lunch. Then the 4.0 plus people started coming. And in future events, we're going to have like a 4.0 and a 4.5 division. So it's not all
Starting point is 01:08:37 bottle together. But these better players, man, the difference in like attitude towards us and each other and just general competitiveness ramped up by a million in the second wave. People started giving us attitude at the scoring table. Arguments were being had at the at the net. I mean, people wanted to win. And you can tell the better the player, the more competitive it got. And it was competitive. Yes, we had a our music going. Yes, we had food. We had, we had drinks. It was a barstool pickable event. We definitely barstooled it, like, just like we did with the Barstool Classic, where it's a golf event. There's really good golfers. They're on their way to go to a championship. But for the people that aren't that good, we have a lot of fun also. It's more for like for the
Starting point is 01:09:25 every man, every woman type sport. This really got out of hand at one point where it's like, I loved it. It was blood. They wanted blood screaming after every point. The music's blast and we're playing the Chicago Bowl's theme song for the championship. It was fucking intense. Yeah. The first wave of people happy to be there on a Saturday morning. Just kind of want to get out, get a little bit of exercise. 72 year old woman made it to the championship in the morning.
Starting point is 01:09:52 She's a star. She was so good. I mean, moving around great. Stuck around afterwards and played more games on a court that was like on the other side. She's a beast. But yeah, the morning wave is just people who like want to get out and have fun with their friends. the second wave was my favorite part because it's a whole different beast like guys like frankie said complaining about like in like out of bounds we
Starting point is 01:10:14 one of the matches you had to have a guy stand on the side and monitor whether balls were going in and out because the two teams were arguing about whether a ball was like you're hooking me you're hooking me on calls can we get someone over here i'm getting hooked on calls over here dude and then the best part my favorite part of the day was when two of the teams were about to play i think in a semi-finals match or maybe the championship match. I can't remember. But they got to the court and they were looking up and I was like, what are they looking at? And then they went to Frankie and they said, I think the lighting on that court is wrong. And we're like, dude, the lighting has been the same on that court all day long. It's the same
Starting point is 01:10:50 for everybody. But the fact- It's the championship court. It's the number one court. It's the best court that was there and they looked up at the lights. Both teams and they agreed with each other like, I think the lighting is off on this court. And that's what you get at a competitive pickleball event. And I fucking loved it. The characters that were at that event were amazing, I thought. I think it's set a perfect blueprint for what we're trying to accomplish in the future events
Starting point is 01:11:13 is we're going to have all day events, all different skill levels, different waves. So we'll have like open play for anyone that just wants to come with like their girlfriend or their wife and you just want to play on an open court. The more courts we get at these facilities, the more options we'll have. So we're trying to turn it into a thing where it's like there'll be different levels. Maybe we'll charge like a certain amount of money where you can just come. You'll get food. you get drinks and you can just play on an open court and no one's going to care about how you're actually playing, right? It's just like you get those dedicated courts to maybe 20 people, you guys can play games. And then there's going to be 10 courts for 3.0 to 3.5 players.
Starting point is 01:11:46 And it's going to be competitive. And then later on in the night, we're going to get the greatest players in the country to come. And it's going to be a full day of all skill level pickleball. So keep your eyes and ears open and peeled because we are announcing more events. This one sold out in like 12 seconds. So the next one should follow suit. And I just want to make sure everyone watches out for that. So I'll be making those announcements, hopefully, pretty soon.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah, man, it's great. I think this is kind of your baby. You and Big Robin working hard on it. And I think the first one was a huge success. And I think people were very thrilled. Yes, very, very excited and excited to watch it grow. The second thing I want to say is on Wednesday, we have a new video coming out.
Starting point is 01:12:26 That is the alternate shot match in Minnesota. We had Kyle Rudolph playing with Vinny LaTerry. and we also had Boldick from the Minnesota Wilde, which he's a stick, an absolute stick, and then myself. So we did an alternate match, super fun, really good video on YouTube on Wednesday,
Starting point is 01:12:47 so make sure you watch that. I love alternate shot matches. They just produce really, really high intensity and good quality content. So that's a great video on our YouTube, and we have way more videos coming out. We've got a couple more Barstall golfs coming out. We're going to be filming a breaking 90.
Starting point is 01:13:02 that's going to be coming out. We've got Riggs playing 18 holes coming out. He played at Wicopod just as an update on his game, whereas his handicap is at, you can watch every single shot that Riggs takes, which people have been asking for. We got a lot of good, oh, side gig with Danny Rappaport and Blake Griffin.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I don't even know if we've announced that. No, nine at mine. I'm sorry, nine at mine. He's got so many damn new series now. Nine at mine where he goes to Blake Griffin's home course and just plays with him and interviews him, basically. and Blake Griffin, obviously, huge star. And, like, Danny's, like, best friend.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Brendan Jones came back to me. He's like, it's crazy how close Blake Griffin and Danny Rappaport are. Like, he loves him. That's wild. Nuts. We've looked up how much money he accumulated over his life. It's insane. Oh, I'm talking about Blake Griffin, not Danny.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yeah. Which I'm sure at some point we can talk about Danny. I think Blake Griffin made $285 million in his NBA career. That's just on court. That's a guy who had sponsorships like crazy too. So that's a very rich man we're talking about. Speaking of rich men, I teased that I was playing that golf course on Long Island. Dude.
Starting point is 01:14:07 I forgot about that. Hard to describe with words. I wish I had a camcorder. I wish I could just film the entire experience, like a whole movie. It's this place called Schoenfeld. They call it Shoney Hills. It's a backyard golf course here on Long Island right behind. Or kind of in the Old Westbury area tweeted about it.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Gates to get in. Guy knew our name walking in. at the gate, gates open, and you're just at a golf course. That's my biggest takeaway is like you're driving up to this house and it's like a 10 minute drive to go through the driveway, but you're driving through a golf course. It's a golf course with a house on it. It's not a house of the backyard golf course. It's a Reese Jones nine hole 13 T-box across fairways.
Starting point is 01:14:50 You're hitting over greens to get into fairways. It felt like Augusta and a hoopie mixed all conjoining fairways and ponds and bridges. I'm looking at it. Now that I own a house, I'm like, I can have an appreciation for like what it costs to put flowers in and hedges and like new stonework and and, and like pavers. I'm looking at this guy had like three bridges over manmade rivers.
Starting point is 01:15:16 And I'm looking at the stonework. I'm like, that's a $500,000 bridge. Maybe a million dollar bridge. It was like nine pillars long with like water running through them. It was insane. The house was. phenomenal cobblestone driveway the whole house was like a square going around it bentleys and late
Starting point is 01:15:35 rangerovers and everything was insane and golf carts with it was a convertible golf carts with music in them and and the golf course has like 19 employees that's working on it and and there's no rakes because who else is playing the golf course it's just once you're done they're going to go rake the bunker because he's playing it tomorrow morning it's his own backyard it's It's stunning. It's a stunning golf course. The first hole is like this par four. You can see Connecticut in the distance because it's so elevated and it's got all this undulation.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And the first green has a hill on it that looks like Augusta, like massive 20 foot swelling hill that goes down to this green, perfectly perched in the back right. The place legit looks like Augusta. They told us a story like Coutre had just played there and he stayed at the estate and he's like, this place is Augusta National Junior. Like it looks just like it. plays just like it. The fairways feel just like it. Spongy. Never had a divot on the green. Never had a divot in the fairway. Never had a ball marking on the green. It's just one guy that plays every single day. It's, uh, it's legitimately the craziest round of golf I'll ever play in my entire life. And we've played hell of a hell of a list of golf courses. We've played
Starting point is 01:16:46 Shinnecock. We've played Pebble Beach. We've done it all. I'll never have an experience like this again. So shout out to them. Shout out to that estate. Um, just, yeah. It was it was legitimately. It was the most fun I've ever had playing golf. We were laughing the whole entire time. You have to be. You like, you step up to these T-boxes and you're like, there's no way this is this guy's backyard.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Like it's, it's, I don't even know how to describe it. I, I'm trying my best. Like, like, I'm going to show you like this was like a hole. That's so crazy. That's a golf course. Look at that place. That's unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Yeah. It's crazy. Did you meet the guy? He was like leaving quickly and he had to go. Someone asked him if he could come say. I said no because he was like rushing. I love that. I love that. He got his car and he had to go.
Starting point is 01:17:42 But like look at these conjoining fairways. Like it's it's Augusta dude. How many acres does he have back there? Oh, the most acres. And that dude, we're talking about land that is some of the most expensive land on the planet. I don't even want to know the property taxes. I don't even want to know. I don't even want to know.
Starting point is 01:18:00 New York is so expensive. The property taxes are so expensive here. Imagine having a golf course with no members that can pay the fees, right? Like usually these expensive golf courses have members paying $500 million initiation, all this stuff. He's got his own. It's one thing to build a golf course in your backyard. But,
Starting point is 01:18:21 and that costs a certain amount. Obviously, you need land. You need people to do it. Blah, blah, blah. but then to keep it and maintain it and have it playable and have it be in your backyard and have it be on fucking Long Island. Like that the cost of that is it's it's a number that is almost like how much money can this person have to have that be a functioning golf course. That's insane. It's insane and it's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen and it's classy and it's not.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And clearly like they're not throwing it in people's faces. Like I've been flying over this place going to. at JFK forever, never even knew that I could maybe get on the grounds. And like, they couldn't have been more accommodating and nice and they're down to earth. He's like the busiest guy ever. He's like flying around, driving around. He did wave to us, but he's like, I got to go. Like he was on the other side of the driveway is like a football field. So he didn't even really see who we were. He, we could have been anybody. Um, so yeah, it was a, it was an amazing experience. And I just, yeah, I was, I was blown away at just like how successful people can end up being. And like, when,
Starting point is 01:19:26 you have this was a this is a dream like people can't even dream this up actually you can't even dream up having that type of golf course in your backyard where you step out in your backyard you step up to the first team you get to go play that course every single day and for me it was like the coolest golf experience i've ever ever ever had in my entire life i couldn't even process it did you have to sign anything are you not allowed to post like do they say anything like no i just i want the the thing is is like it's his home so it's like you have to be somewhat respectful that's the hardest part is like you're not I'm not I wasn't going to post all these videos and pictures of the house and all that it's like no it's one thing if that's a clubhouse it's one thing if
Starting point is 01:20:04 that's a clubhouse it's another thing it's his literal home where his family lives so it's like it's bizarre and it's it's an experience like no other but no they didn't they they were they were they were normal people it was it was insane completely normal people that just loved golf and loved having us out there and like was like oh bring trent and let's go play like They loved it. I love the mystery of it. I love that you didn't really get to meet the guy. I think that's my favorite part.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Him just sort of like waving, still a mysterious figure who just, he's got to be busy if he's got a place like that. He has to be constantly doing this. He's like the greatest gin rummy player of all time. Like he could like competitively play gin with like anybody. And I guess it's like a big mind game. Like I've never really played. I know that you have to like know how many cards are out there and make sure like
Starting point is 01:20:51 if you're putting down a seven, no one else has a possibility of picking up. of seven because you could lose it. It's like a real brain game. Similar to chess where it's like you have to be playing moves and strategically moving around with your cards. And apparently he can like win any game ever. Like he'll win like 90% of the games he plays because he's just like a beautiful mind. Wow. So yeah. Incredible, incredible, incredible, incredible. I played great too. Like we played 18 holes. So you basically do the nine and then you have lunch and they do the nine again. Yeah. But you do it from like different T-boxes. So you get to see the holes again. And it's like, you're like, oh, we're about to tack this
Starting point is 01:21:24 green and I know exactly what this green does. I can hit it in the back shelf and come back. So the front I think I shot like a 42 because I bogied coming in 7, 8, and 9. And then the back, I shot 39. So I ended up shooting like an 81 first time around this place. I just, I was making putts with that new flat stick TP reserve putter. I haven't done that on video yet, I don't think, but I've ditched my spider. I've had it for three years, the spider GT, the Islander colored one. And I just, I'm not hitting putts the way I want to hit them. So I moved over to the blade for the first time in like five or six years. And it's the new tailor made TP reserve.
Starting point is 01:22:04 And I am absolutely flagging these puts, man. Anything for like five feet and then I feel like it's an automatic right now. I just mentally I'm like, I'm there. Yeah, that was the weakest part of your game. And the other parts of your game are incredibly strong. Yeah, if you clean the putting, dude, you're going to be in the 70s constantly. Yeah, it's been feeling really good. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:24:55 Wow. I mean, that is some golf. Yeah, I saw a tweet that said that if you place the average golfer on the green in regulation on every single hole from eight feet they wouldn't break 58 i guess like whatever the putting statistics are from eight feet the odds of them shooting a 58 are worse than what bryson de chambot did yeah man it's one of the more impressive things you're ever going to see like and he made a bomb putt to shoot 58 won the tournament amazing celebration yeah film mickleson jumping up in the air he's got up like 85 feet
Starting point is 01:25:34 I've seen a lot of hate on Twitter, people saying like it's an exhibition. He didn't actually win a tournament because he only played 54 holes. It's live. It's a green briar. They were all going low. I don't know, man. I don't know how you can take away a guy shooting a 58 in a competitive round of golf. The way that he was making bomb putts, he was drilling drives, not even watching the ball flying the air, just get in the tea, put in his pocket.
Starting point is 01:25:56 John Romm tweeted out no matter who you are or where you are playing, 58 on a Sunday to win is an incredible accomplishment. and congratulations to Bryce and Des Chimbo and your win today at the Greenbrier. 58, dude. We're doing barstool golfs with these guys from the office. And guys, no one's breaking 58 in nine holes. It's crazy. No, it's a 58 is a number you like can't even wrap your head around.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I know Jim Fierich did it a few years ago at the Travelers, I believe. And it's just, yeah, 58. That's a whole different. We talk about these guys when they shoot like 65, 66, 67, how crazy that is. 58? Are you kidding me? So yeah, no, shout out to Bryson. It does that John Rom tweet and just the general feeling around Live has certainly softened,
Starting point is 01:26:42 at least the way that I've seen it. Like after the merger was announced, everyone's just kind of like, yeah, well, 58, man, we're going to give props to a 58. So just a really, really impressive round of golf. Magnus Carlson was seen on the golf course. I saw the International Chess Foundation Federation tweeted out a picture of Magnus. Carlson. We got to get this guy. We got to get this guy on the podcast. We got to go do a video with him. I need to be in the presence of this guy because I've watched videos on him and I genuinely don't
Starting point is 01:27:13 believe he's a real human being. I would love to talk to him about real stuff. You know? Yeah. Like search like titties in front of him or something or like just like something like I don't know. What's your favorite candy and like what did you think about this movie and really like just talk to him like a human being? Because I don't think he can do it. I don't think he can actually have a conversation. he's a robot. Yeah, he's a chest robot. Stuff that he can do on a chess board is not real.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Oh, he's not. No, he's unbelievable. You ever see the video of him playing like 30 different people in chess? Yeah. And he goes around. Beats him all. He'll make a move and then he goes to the next one. And they're all in a line in a square, basically.
Starting point is 01:27:50 And he beats them all. No, and those are good chess players that he's playing. Yeah, it was like a professional chess team. No, a guy like him is endlessly fast. fascinating. But yeah, you don't see much about him like outside the chest. Like what's his favorite ice cream flavor? Right.
Starting point is 01:28:08 How does he hit a golf ball? It was just a picture of him with a putter. It's like incredible. That's a great picture. Yeah. It's a great picture. I need to talk to him. I need to talk to Magnus Carlson.
Starting point is 01:28:20 That's like one of my dreams is to have him on the podcast. I think that'd be great. He'd be an unbelievable podcast. I don't think he does a ton of press. I've never seen him. He has to. No, but he's one of those guys who he's so good at what he's. he does that he doesn't have to do anything else.
Starting point is 01:28:33 I'm envious of people like that in a lot of ways. I mean, we can try. We can certainly try to get Magnus Carlson on this show. You got to get him. He's one of my favorite guests that we could possibly get. But you know what I mean? Guys like that have no use for guys like us. Oh.
Starting point is 01:28:47 When you're so good at something, you don't have to be in this world. Dude, Brock Nelson's like, I turned my phone off for the last like three weeks. I'm like, can you imagine? Can you imagine being able to do that? It's just so nice where it's like, yeah, camp starts for hockey. in like August and like I'm with my family and we're like working on the house and I just like don't need to tweet or look at Instagram. What? I don't have to do any of that. My job starts in a couple months. I'm really good at it and I have to try and win and lose hockey games. That's really all
Starting point is 01:29:15 that matters. I have to like, you know, be a good family guy and just be home and like that's it. Like that's his life and he gets to be a fucking professional athlete. He doesn't have to worry about tweeting and Magnus Carlson winning fucking chess matches on YouTube. He doesn't the only thing is you can up your profile. Like if you're a guy who's great at something, you can be in the social media world and it gets you out there. But there's, you don't have to do it.
Starting point is 01:29:37 You can just be, 50 million dollars and not. Right. He may, yeah, is that how much Brock is made? Yeah, probably.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Yeah, right. He's going to make $50 million and he would have never had to have a Twitter account or an Instagram account. That's pretty crazy. I will, I will say as I've like been on Twitter less. It's,
Starting point is 01:29:53 it's just changing. And I don't like the way that it's changing. Yeah, that for you page, like being the first thing you see is like it's just annoying. I definitely find myself like closing out of it before. Like I don't even go to like the like my actual timeline anymore. I forget to do it. I feel like I just miss everything. What I do now is I go and I check on the people that I want to see, which I've never used to do. I feel like Twitter's made me search people's names. Like I'll check Dave Portnois Twitter every
Starting point is 01:30:21 right morning. I feel like I'm missing every single morning and night just to make sure I'm not missing anything. Maybe even, I'll even throw in a one o'clock check in. You know what I mean? And so I'll go morning one o'clock, probably 430 and then right before I go to bed, just to make sure I'm not missing anything. That's on top of already scrolling. You can't miss the Eagle if he's, if he's tweeting out anything. No. And then I'll like type in your name and rigs to see if anything came up for play. I just like want to make sure that I'm up to date with stuff. But I agree with you where I'm not really seeing the things I used to see. It's hard to keep up. Yeah. And it's definitely still in my rotation. Like I'm on Instagram. I'm on Twitter. I mix in TikTok now every
Starting point is 01:30:59 once in a while. It's still in there. But if we're talking percentages, the percentages for Twitter are going down. And I know people will be like, oh, you just hate Elon and blah, blah, blah. It's not that. It's, I mean, it is him to a degree where he's changing it. It's called X now. They're called reposts instead of retweets. Like the Twitter that I know and used to know and used to love, I don't know. It's kind of lost that little bit of it. And it feels like the bot are out of control. It's just the whole thing is sort of a shit show. And I'm finding myself on it less, which I'm stunned even for myself because I'm a Twitter guy.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Like I love Twitter. That's the app I feel most comfortable on. It's the one I feel like I can actually get my real personality out there as opposed to like Instagram where like look at the guy you're looking at right now. I'm a fucking slug. Like that's not my app. Twitter is my app. And for whatever reason, it's just kind of losing its allure, which is kind of sad to me.
Starting point is 01:31:52 But it's probably better for my brain and my real. life but whatever yeah yeah it's just interesting it is interesting i'm trying to think of i got anything else pickleball childers oh i'm having a birthday party in saturday if you want to come are you really yeah just having some people over all right you're turning 30 i know last week in my 20s wow i'm a little nervous about it but i talked to rhone about it um we were on like a pop punk meeting yeah which is always funny like we have like a band meeting all this weird collection of people that work in Barcelona sports. We talk about what set lists we're going to
Starting point is 01:32:28 play at like these massive shows and colleges and the pizza fest. What did he say about turning 30? Well, I remember Roan telling me something about 30 like a couple of years ago, whether he had just turned 30 and like we talked about getting older. But he was like, you're never more yourself than when you're in your 30s.
Starting point is 01:32:46 Like 20s is like you're trying to find out things. You're making mistakes. You're like getting a girl. You're getting engaged. You're, then the 30 is like you figured it out sort of like you're you're you're embarking on like figuring out who you are in this time like you've never been more you than in your 30s you're getting married you're getting all these things like he's telling me like all these things are happening and now
Starting point is 01:33:09 you have time to focus on like you've made the decisions on who you're going to be and now it's like time to like actually enjoy them so it's a lot of like trying to find it in your 20s and then like now it's like you've done it let's figure it out now like now let's let's now you're you. You've made the decision on who you are and now you get to live who you are. That's interesting. And I think he's at least partially right. Like your 20s are chaos for certainly the early part, mid part.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Once you start getting you should be. Yeah. No, that's a good way to like experience a lot of different things. Like he's saying like it is like a trial and error period of your life where you decide, oh, I like this. Oh, I don't like that. These are the things I want to do. These are things I don't want to do.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Like that then your 30s, he is right where. most people, and it's not for everybody, but most people kind of know what they like at that point. And so now I'm just going to hammer home those things as opposed to going to all these different events and these shows and these social gatherings and you start to weed out the things and the people that you don't want to spend time with.
Starting point is 01:34:09 And your 30s are more like pointed and you have a focus. I think he's right. I think he's largely right about what he said. Yeah. So maybe I'll want to kick everyone out of the party once it turn 30. I'll be like I don't like these social gatherings anymore. But we'll see. Um, no. Yeah, I think, I think, I think, uh, I think it'll be good. I'm a little nervous about it. It's like you're just throwing a decade away. You're never getting that one back. You look back on the 20s and you're like, it's over. That's over. There's no turning back time. But the thing that I always find fascinating about the human brain is that it starts to, it becomes okay with those things. Like when I was 19 or 20 or 21, at when I was in that moment, I was like, I'm going to be like this forever. This is,
Starting point is 01:34:51 We get to go out every night. We have the most fun. I'm with the people that I'm the closest to every single night. And you think you're going to feel that way forever. And then when you turn 30 or you get a little bit older, your brain starts to be like, I don't want to do those things as much. These are the things that I want to do.
Starting point is 01:35:08 You don't stay the same. You change. And the things that you think you're going to be super into forever, you realize you don't want to do that at all anymore. Like if you told me like this weekend, I'm going to do the things that I did when I was 19 and 20, I would cry. I would want to cry and I wouldn't want to do that.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Like I want to just like everything starts to sort of just kind of calm down a little bit. And your brain is like, all right, let's go out and we'll hang out for it. And then we'll be in bed by 11 o'clock. Like it's totally. And I'm okay with it. I'm totally fine with it. Where if you had told me that when I was 19, I was like, that sounds like the lamest thing in the world. I saw a tweet or post, whatever you're going to call it now with X.
Starting point is 01:35:49 It was like, what happens as you get old? do you still find, do you find the people in your age group attractive as you get older? So like when I'm 70, I'm going to be like thinking 70 year olds and 80 year olds are like hot shit. Like is that it was an interesting way to think about like what happens to your brain as you get older. Because it seems as though that that's been happening already. Right. Like you're like 16, 18, whatever you're in, you're in high school and like the girls in your or guys in your class. You're like, whatever.
Starting point is 01:36:17 That's, that's who I like. That's my age. That's my pool. and then you turn 20, like, looking at a 25 or 30 year old at that point would be like, that is a, like, that's a mom. Get away from me. And now you're 30. And I'm thinking like, oh, all these 30 year olds look good to me.
Starting point is 01:36:31 You know what I mean? Like, that's my pool now. Like, that's what I find attractive. These people are that's, but when you're 12 looking at them, they're ancient. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Is that the same when you're 70 and 80 is they all look like incredible. And I, and the explanation that this one, I guess a 75 year old on Twitter gave was,
Starting point is 01:36:50 like he doesn't know how to explain it perfectly but something happens to your brain where you end up like you end up like not looking for like beauty but more like you end up being fascinated with everyone your age group and like how they look and like are they like do they look good for their age and like how have they gotten to that part like he's almost like you're admiring like the wrinkles because it's been a long like weathered life like like in your like you see another person at your age and you're like thinking about all the things that they went through in their life. Like it's almost like a perspective thing as opposed to like, I wonder if they have tight tits or something. You know what I mean? Like they're not thinking about sexuality. They're thinking about
Starting point is 01:37:32 like the journey is how he kind of described it where it's like there's nothing I can do about it's just the way my brain operates now where like I see someone and I think immediately how did they get how did this body in front of me get to this point? So it's more of like they look for stories as opposed to like anything else. Well, the sexual design. It has to go down just because you found that really interesting it is interesting that your brain changes what it wants to see Based off of just like probably because it has to that's just the way the world works like you can't even like reproduce anymore. Well, it's probably like oh, this is what we have to like find interesting now. Well the humans have been we've been going at this for a long time.
Starting point is 01:38:10 So the brain has adjusted like what it what it wants at certain ages like think about think about if you're 75 and you're still just crazy attracted to 25. year olds like that's just can't be how like society works that can't be how the human race works stew finers you know he's a anomaly and a anomaly in a lot of ways but but like it would be chaos if that were the case like you're the human brain has to adapt in a way where yeah when you're 65 70 you're far more interested in people of in your pool in your age group than you are to a 35 year what like is this like psychology like who like studies this stuff is that really what that is I don't know. Maybe sociology?
Starting point is 01:38:53 Sociology. That would be my guess. It's really interesting. I've always wanted to study people and like the brain and like why they react certain ways and like why certain age groups are certain ways and other age groups are certain ways. It's, it's an interesting topic. And honestly, I don't even know how you study it.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Well, that's going back to our original point about how things are moving so fast and everything's accessible. You could definitely learn a lot about that just on YouTube. Like if you just wrote in the search bar what you want to find out, you would be able to find out a shit-taught about it. The times of struggling to see your golf shots are over, introducing the Green Wolf, high-performance, precision sunglasses powered by Shady Rays,
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Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah, he finds stuff that's super interesting. The way that he finds, like unbelievable documentaries on YouTube is that's one of his greatest skills and he's a very skilled person. Yeah, everything on my YouTube is like comedy podcasts. But he'll find things that are. what's the one YouTube Oh, handover production? Something like that. Yeah, that just has like, here's how the president and his security detail gets around.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I think it's certainly the W actually. I could have accidentally just had like a porn media company or something. I have no idea what handover. I think that might have been it. Yeah, he finds very interesting videos. Like he had like eight videos lined up and the first one was the US military weakness in a war with China is the Panama Canal. And it's a 14 minute video about why the US has a weakness. in the Panama Canal, a video I would never, ever in a million years stumble upon, but he found it
Starting point is 01:41:59 and he queued it up. Then the next one was, I made a U-Haul go supersonic, and it's like a picture of a plane, like basically holding a U-Haul. And then it's the plan to build an island using only electricity. Like, he's really, he's hitting a bunch of different ways, why the U.S. government has no idea how many buildings it owns. Like, these are all things that I find interesting. He's just, he's finding really good YouTube videos. So Big Sean Q on Twitter, if you ever see him, tweet out his cue of like this other one why how north korea finally made it impossible to escape a 25 minute video see that's super interesting super interesting i'm watching fucking dumbest stuff on youtube oh so bad the the most interesting one that i've watched and i think he recommended or
Starting point is 01:42:39 he at least recommended the page and i found it was the president and how he gets around oh yeah the security detail and how they keep um like bags of the president's blood in one of the cars so Like if something bad happens, they have blood. Like it is, there's better things on YouTube. Well, you should watch the four-play YouTube channel. But there are things on there also where it's like building bridges and things about the president and things about North Korea that you can find on that are super interesting. Yep. What else he got?
Starting point is 01:43:10 Anything else going on? I don't think so. I don't think so either. Going to Alabama and then Toronto. So that's going to be quite the trip. I don't even know how you get from Alabama. it's a Toronto. There's got to be a connection in there somewhere.
Starting point is 01:43:25 There's going to be a connection, I think, in Atlanta. I'm trying to think. We got another Barso Goss filming. I don't know. All right. I don't know what else. I'm trying to think. No, we can be done.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Yeah. I'm looking at all my little snippet of pictures that I hate. I know. It's just, I don't know. When you talk about improving it, you sound 300 years old. Yeah. But I do think there's some validity to it. Totally. I think it's fine to just like use the old technology and kind of just like have that with you. You know, just like keep it alive a little bit. You don't have to change just like where technology is going.
Starting point is 01:44:05 But let's not just like make the things that like I genuinely find home movies to be like really awesome, entertaining and like nostalgic. And like it's like dopamine for my brain to like remember things and see them and like in real time. Like it released like I loved it like I'm like wow like that's refreshing to my brain not everything so fast and moving forward we took a step back for a second take a step back and realize where everything came from and I think we should hold on to that just a little bit instead of always going life in the fast lane are you going to have a camcorder at your birthday party I think I should it's a good test run you know Trent that's a great point I'm going to order one yeah that's a great point have people pass that thing around.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I love the pass around. How cool is that? I love it. I think you should definitely have it at your party. Fuck yeah. All right. Done. Absolutely done.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Ordering one right now. Or I'll wait until I get some responses. Maybe people have like good ones for me to order. Tell all your friends. I want to look like greeny. I don't want to be some like. No, you got to get an older one.
Starting point is 01:45:09 Yeah. Tell all your friends like, hey, there's going to be a camp court to just pass this thing around. Amazing. Yeah. All right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:17 That's the show. Shout out to. JT for grinding. Love that guy. I hope he plays for the Ryder Cup. Speaking of a riot cup, we have, we just got a shipment of some stuff
Starting point is 01:45:27 and we're not going to talk about it, but it's a little tease. We got some good stuff coming out for the Ryder Cup. Yeah, we do. Did you open up that box? Oh, yeah. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:45:35 It's cool. So that's coming soon also. We got a lot of cool stuff coming out. All right. I thought I just lost you guys there. Nope, you're still here. We got to get you to break 90. Yeah, we're going to do that.
Starting point is 01:45:45 That's going to happen. I can feel it. All righty. I think that's it. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Fuck!

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