Fore Play - Jack Nicklaus vs Tiger Woods

Episode Date: May 30, 2019

We breakdown the true motives behind the Tiger Woods and Jack Nicklaus relationship, delve deeper into the Chambers Bay trip, weigh in on Hank Haney's women's golf comments, and much more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back, folks. It is myself and Frankie. We're going to start by telling you all about our very good friends at Supreme Golf. The short end of it is this. They're the only T-time app you need. You're all booking T-Times.

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It's just so daunting to think about. It's horrifying to think about how long we've been away. There's something that I'm going to do in near future, and that something is try and request that I don't pay rent this month in my apartment because I have no idea what my apartment even looks like. I can't tell you the last time I opened up my refrigerator and took out a cold bottle of water. I can't tell you the last time I did something that I usually do.

It makes no rational sense for us to, pay rent. I actually believe that we could make a convincing legal argument and I might grab a cousin Mike Portnoy to make this for me. If you could figure out how a fucking telephone works, that we shouldn't, like, barstool should pay our rent. I mean, it's just

I don't ever want to like disparage the name of barstool because I live and die by this barstool crest, the stool. But my goodness, do I wish I was home more right now? I mean, we're doing awesome things. Like, tell the people where we just wear rings.

So we were, and this is going to sound bad because, you know, you guys, I understand I'll fucking love you guys, all the playtrons out there, all of our loyal, loyal listeners. Many of you have been there since day one, but also a massive chunk of you have, we've picked up over the years, over the last six, eight months. So this is going to sound bad because the way that I'm going to list it and the way audibly that it sounds is glorious. However, and I texted Kevin Kisner this tonight, I said, bro, I've been home in my apartment one night since the last time I saw you. I said, I feel like I'm on the PGA tour. And he goes, it fucking sucks, doesn't it? It does.

I mean, even professional athletes say that the road is grueling, and it's like tiring, and you just want to be home and you want to be able to do stuff that you're used to doing, right? Like living at home. And that's, this is awesome stuff. When a major league baseball player gets to play against the LA Angels and go up and play as Seattle Mariners, but he's away from home for fucking month and a half, they would tell you. that that sucks. Now, now that we've prefaced it, our road has been this.

We were at the PJ Championship at Bell, or at Bethpage Black, our People's Country Club, amazing week. Probably the biggest week, to be honest with you, the foreplay has ever had. We returned to the office like Kings. We got a lot of congratulations from people on how big of a week we had, including Dave Portnoy, which you never get. That's impossible to get unheard of.

We had a big week. It was the first time really that Frankie had been able to spend an extended period of time, focused solely on golf, myself, Trent Daddy, Jake, our producer, worked his dick off, ended up puking at the end of the end of the week because he's working so hard. We spent the entire week of Beth Page Blatt, seven straight days, went home for one night, flew to Pebble Beach, horrible flight situation, which I described in great detail on this podcast. woke up. We had a 7.30 a.m. T. time.

We had to walk around, follow Dave around Pebble Beach for five hours, five and a half hours straight, which is a great time. Don't give me wrong. Weather was perfect. It was gorgeous out. Pebble is maybe, you know, they call it the greatest meeting of land and sea in the history of the world. It's a gorgeous place. Then we, in the afternoon at Pebble played 18 holes.

U.S. opening conditions, fairways are narrowed. Rough was incredibly thick, long. Wind was up. It was like 20-mile-hour wind. Played Pebble for the first time, but we were running on no gas. We were trying to post scores. But, like, none of us could really play golf, but we're trying to record every shot. But we're playing Pelham Beach.

You're trying to enjoy it. Then Frankie and I went back. We recorded the podcast till, you know, late at night. Woke up. We flew to Seattle. Played golf with Kevin Chappell. Met up with Taser and our boy Maddie. Played three more rounds.

Cold Mountain. Home course, Chambers Bay, twice. Which one would you say is the best? one out of those. Gold Mountain, Aldera, and Home Course. Let me ask you a question. Just answer, let me ask me, answer one question before you

continue. Is it Gold Mountain, Aldera, or Home Course? The amount of times we heard that question. In one night. What was that place called? Hanks. Hanks. Shout out Hanks. Before you go on, I just have to say, because I know we'll probably,

we probably will go just pass that all entire part. I spoke to Devon Taves, not Devon. I spoke to Devonte's. He said he loved the podcast. Him and Matt, he loved last podcast, last podcast, last recap and everything. But he did say that the way you said Daveon rattle him to his core, he was stepping over the ball. His first tee shot, you know, it was at Gold Mountain, and you took a little video of his first shot and you're like, okay, on the tea, Devon. And he said he heard it in the backer. He's like, all right, Rigsie Barstow's just being like a funny comedian back there. Like, whatever, just churched it up. He said

it continued throughout the week and he just, he ended up being a polite Canadian and just didn't correct you on your pronunciation of his name. So shout out to Devon for doing that because that's tough to listen to you church a name up like that. It's tough. So I Frenchified it. I French-Canadian did. What happened was I just got it in my brain, even though he's from

BC. He's from Vancouver, which is Western Canada, which might as well be Seattle. He's an American. He's the guy's from like Arizona. Like when you're from, like you know what I mean? They just say a couple of times. He's essentially from the Pacific Northwest.

In my brain, I heard Devon, I churched it to Devon, and I made him northeastern Canadian, aka Quebecwa, French Canadian, all that. I was wrong. I got it wrong. I don't know what part of my brain, Frankie, just when I heard Devon, I just changed it to DeVan. And you did, you just, I don't know how to stress it on this podcast enough at how strongly you hit the Dave. like it was so piercing I was like what is he fucking

well nobody fucking said anything why don't you guys say something to me I just got it wrong man I know I know well whatever we cleared it out we're all friends here you guys could just say hey Riggs you're not even close I'm saying Devon's name

and he thinks you're doing a bit a buffet of bits it was a buffet of bits it really was it was a buffet of bits you did it so much I thought I had the name wrong every time I narrated a video I was like

next up Devon and you guys will see this video on YouTube. We invented a new way to show videos. We did. Well, there's a platform where just videos. We had these videos. We had no idea where to put them. Can't tell you how many videos we've had. And we thought for the longest time that these videos would just live amongst our text group, maybe on our, on our iPhones app. But it turns out we can edit them in any form that we want really and then publish them on a one congregated place and link which is our youtube page for play golf you do so we're going to we're going to start doing that but

my good friend devontes great guy one of the nice guys on the planet as a gigantic st louis blues fan we just got our first stanley cup final win in franchise history beat the bruin at the garden in overtime it was an unbelievable experience I'm still reeling. I'm going 8 million miles an hour. Hell of a game. Firing off tweets. Blues played great. Tough for me to be there like it was game one.

Has to be. I don't like being in this. Everyone's like, I got responses to my tweet where I was like, I can't believe I have to go to Stanley Cup game. Oh, you're such a brat. You get to go to Stanley Cup game. Like, the Stanley Cup is not like the fucking Super Bowl. Like, you don't want to be at the Stanley Cup unless your team's there. Like, everyone, I live and die.

by my team and when they lose I die with them. I don't want to like go celebrate the fucking blues and the Bruins like it's not a fucking event to go to. It's it's solely for the fans of those teams. Soly. And I mean

you're not also just there hanging out, right? You have to activate yourself on all those videos. Anybody who who follows us on Twitter Instagram there are a million videos that go out of our live reaction of the goals. Every goal, every penalty, every big moment of the game.

No one knows when that goal's happening. You have to film literally the entire time. And then you stop, delete, keep filming. And then occasionally you capture a goal. You know why I have to keep deleting? Because I have fucking 18 rounds of golf on our phone. We actually got a lot of submissions from the last show on how we should go about filming our rounds. Gimble.

Everybody says Gimble. Gimble. Actually, I don't want to, before we get into that, congratulations on the blues. Congratulations. A huge game. Huge win. First franchise. Stanley Cup win in Boston.

All those fans, they had the barstool towels. Dave was rallying the towel all over the place. Pucks in net, pucks in deep. Hell of a win, man. Hell of a win. Down twice. They rallied twice. Down 1-0, like 5 minutes into the game.

Then we scored in the Bruins score five seconds later. Then we score again to tie it up. Nothing in the second period. Blues end up finding away in overtime to get the win. I can't tell you how much that one would have hurt because the blues played. And we're not going to talk about hockey in this podcast. No, we don't do that.

We never do it. Obviously, there's a golf podcast. Talk golf. We're not going to talk hockey at all. Golf. Having said that, the Blues, if they would have lost this game, it would have been a fucking dagger. The outshot of my believe, 37 to 23 last time I saw the count, despite the fact that the Bruins had two more power plays than the blues. They just played a really, really good hockey game.

And to bounce back after being outshot like 40 to 20 in game one. and play that well. To get that win, to get the first franchise win in the Stanley Cup final in history, to get it on the road, to go back to St. Louis 1-1, Home Ice. Game 3 is Saturday night in St. Louis. It's just awesome. Everything about it is awesome. It's going to be sick.

It's one of the great feelings. It's my favorite team on the planet. I grew up. My dad used to take my brother and I to hockey games. He had literally season tickets, split season tickets with his buddy. We'd go to games all time. So to see a blues win. I got the ticket at Cold Frankie.

I'm going to try to get a couple guys in the blues to sign the ticket. I just tucked it away in my safety spot and my backpack where I put all things that are very important to me. Unbelievable night. We're not going to talk about hockey. Nope. It's not what we're here to do. So thank you to the people that submitted all their ideas on how we're now going to film, us play golf, Gimble.

And I saw someone say, the stabilizer. Yeah, the stabilizer. And then you can get this little, like, mini notebook laptop type thing that's like a real small thing that can fit in, to your golf bag and we can then just transfer over all of our stuff apparently from your phone like mid round if you really wanted to do like if you throw this thing in like a cart or something or like even after like while you're at like the 19th hole you can be you can sit there just transfer it all and you have a hard drive unbelievable idea just get everything on a hard drive before you leave the golf course that's huge because I and I talked about it a little bit in the last show

but the race against the storage on a phone it's crazy in real time on the golf course we could was something I've never go to the bar right after everyone just like sits around a table and we just figure out

how to get it all onto one hard drive and then we just get to go home unbelievable efficiency and I love the I may be like this whole laptop in the

thing is not the right idea but I love where our heads at so thank you everyone for helping us out because I think that this will in turn allow us to showcase the best golf courses

in the world the way we want to for you guys yeah now you will never understand the type of kind of concern and the rush to get stuff done, understand technology, understand, and really beg for your phone to come through. Then when you're on like the 11th hole, we're playing Chambers Bay,

we've filmed every single shot up to that point. It's the last round of the trip. We're going on two hours of sleep because we were out with Moses and the boys the night before. Oh, speaking of Moses, I got a message from him that people are now just screaming at him, Maui. He said that, too, to me. He's like, they're just screaming Maui at me. If you go to Chambers Bay and you see a fucking, the king of the ocean walking amongst, like, the golf course,

you know who he is. And his name is Maui, aka Moses. But yes. I swear to God, if you see him and you can't miss him, okay? He's a big boy. Oh, Siri, don't talk to me right now. Are you kidding me? That's the kind of state we're in.

Siri can just jump up. She could perk up and start screaming at it anymore. you just like repeated what you said. Like if you say that person on the golf cars, what are you fucking talking about? What's what?

Do you think the new versions of the iPhone have a more aggressive series than the old versions? I think they're always listening to us. Have you ever had a problem in which you're talking, you're thinking about something

and then you see it on your phone like the next day? I swear to God it happened to me once. I was with my buddies. I actually don't even know who I was with. I may have been someone from Barstall, not saying that they're not my buddies, but I was,

I don't know where I was. It was pretty recently. and acquaintance yeah we were in like the radio room I think it was a Colby and we were talking about something so fucking random like the most random thing you could possibly think of like

I was like how do you think they heat these big buildings like what do you think they what do you think they really like where do they store these huge heating units I think like we didn't have heat in our building that day and all of a sudden I go on Twitter or like Instagram and the first thing that pops up is like industrial

heating units I've No joke said it out loud. I'd never use the word industrial heating unit in my entire life. So that's scary shit, man. That's scary fucking shit. Buddy, the amount of times and everybody's going to know what we're talking about, and you're having a conversation with a buddy about, like, a rangefinder. Oh, God.

And then I get up there's more. I'm scrolling through Instagram. You're on like Facebook, like the fucking ad central? Just ads for range finders left and right, pinned range find. It's just like, I, who's listening to me? Now, I do think with the newer phone, which, again, I've gotten Christmas. Christmas, I got a new phone. I pulled the bold move of not getting a, well, I stood up to check the time.

Well, I said Santa. Oh, I thought you said stand up. I didn't tell you to stand up. No, I got up. I said Santa and then Riggs arose from his hotel bed like out of Santa. You're like, stand up, okay. I got up to check the time on the recorder, which the reason I did that we're going to get to at the end of the show. Now, the reason I brought that out about Siri, I got a new phone for Christmas from Santa.

It was a great phone via Santa, iPhone X. And I've noticed that just like when I think I turn it off, you know, he hit you a little side button. You think you turn your phone off. And then split second later, I start talking and Siri just repeats back. Yeah. And I'm like, where do you want to go to lunch today? It's like it just repeats it in that dumb Siri voice. Just shut the fuck up, Siri.

Like, I turned you off. I hit the off button. You see that documentary on the girl who is, who was the original. original Siri. Yeah. Like her voice. And then when you hear her talk about, like, in the documentary, it's pretty hilarious. She just sounds like Siri.

It's so funny. Like, really good. Really good. So if you're out at Chambers Bay, okay, and you see this big boy, he's a fucking D1 football player, played at Minnesota, he's got gorgeous locks, which he puts up behind a hat, but don't get me wrong. He will find any excuse out there, our boy, Moses, to take his hat off and just, it was raining.

He loved it. put his, just slick his hand back through his flowing, beautiful locks. If you see Moses out there, again, you can't miss him. You scream Maui at him, okay? That is our promise to Moses, is that we will have people, every fucking round you loop out there. Every round you caddy, Moses,

we will have people yelling Maui at you because you aren't just like from Milana, which is not my favorite movie, but a great reference. You are a guy. That's just who he are. Moses is the fucking man. If you yell Maui on him, make sure you see him afterwards.

Go to Hanks, get a beer with him. You'll have one of the best nights of your life. Nicest fucking guy in the world. That whole crew out there, the whole Chambers Bay crew. We love you guys. We had an awesome time. Starting to release some footage from it. We just released a Riggs verse.

Shout out Peter Millar. We did. We did. From our good friends of Peter Malar, had us all geared up. A lot of people asking, where the hell can I get that shirt? What is it the 15th hole? Lone Fur Tree. Lone fir tree.

This is one tree. It's got a lone fur. It's one hole. It's got a lone fur. It's got one tree on the whole goddamn golf course. And it is a beautiful sight. I sent a picture of that golf hole to many people. And all I wrote was, look at this goddamn golf course.

That's what I said. And they couldn't believe what I sent them. I had people, Dave Portnoy himself, came out to me and said, you've been taking some stunning pictures on the golf. Pictures are insane. And John finally. You do, you do portrait mode? all the time. John Fetterberg asked me. He goes,

hey, you become like a photographer? What's happening here? Something's going on. I said to the same pictures. They just didn't come out good. And I pride myself on taking good pictures sometimes. Just didn't come out as good. I said to Fiderberg, you know what happened? I discovered the portrait feature on the phone. But the portrait doesn't work if, like, in distance.

But it just works for you. Yes, it does. What you have to learn is if you tap on, you have to tap on things. Right, but it'll always say, like, move within eight feet or move further. You're taking these, like, pictures of fucking golf holes. like 300 yards long. Well, it's also a number.

It's a numbers game, too. So what I'll do is I'll tap on, like, the, the four. The one you took of me and Taser, like, walking down. Unbelievable. Literally the best picture it's ever been taken of, like, anyone. Like, there's no way that was portrait mode. Like, portrait mode needs to be like, like, like, portrait mode works when I take a picture of this water bottle that's, like, two inches away from me, and it, like, blurs out,

like, the table. It's unreal that it works for you. It's crazy. Frank. There are plenty of photos on my phone that didn't turn out that great. however when you run it and i'm learning that i clearly have um the photographer buck because i just i don't know part of it maybe some of it's some of it's talking with and chatting with

my good friend lynx jim's john cavalier because i've asked about his technique how do you do it how do you i i look at your pictures and like you take them from fucking up in the weeds in the fescue you got like one fescue strand in your face and then the course in the background how do you do that how do you keep up with the pace of play because we're all we're avid golfers here pace of plays huge I don't take really

any practice swings I always try to keep up but I can't because I'm taking a picture all this bullshit he was like honestly you're not even to think about it now he's like it's just habit I just do it and it's the same way afterwards you guys said like where do these pictures come from it's just it's just an instinct I've just when you play as many rounds as I've played

and I have in the last couple of years and you're addicted to the con king content game. I do get chirped on the course a lot for just having my phone out the whole time. And I do miss certain things because I have to sacrifice the enjoyment of the round. But it's instinct, baby. I just pull that fucking phone out. Portrait moan, flip it to video on video and Frankie.

Back to portrait. Take a picture. And again, maybe 70% of them don't come out great, but those 30% are popping. Oh, yeah. So I got some unbelievable picks. Unbelievable picks. I'm also to continue on this kind of. chatter about content.

I'm in the market for a really sick camera. I think I'm going to get a Sony RX 100 and apparently there's a 4, 5, and 6. Those are the different options. They all have, you know, they get a little bit better obviously as you get closer to the 6, but they get more expensive. I'm not going to have Barstool buy it because I like to own my shit. I do the same thing with the drone. I don't want anybody to come by and be like,

I need that drone for the weekend. I don't want anybody to come by and be like, I need that camera for the weekend. Oh, no, no, no. That's my fucking drone. That's my camera. I'm going to buy my own camera. I want to take even better picks, and I got to get into the editing game. I don't really know how to edit photos. Apparently, that's huge. Oh, yeah.

I see these fucking people on Twitter. These guys that are kind of in the Link's Chim's category, but they're not nearly as good. I think you throw it in, like, Illustrator or something like that, one of these programs. People make it look like they're on another point. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Oh, man. I look at these pictures for hours.

How's fucking they do that. You can add, like, the, like, space into, like, the, uh, into the sky. Like, where you, like, have, like, a million stars and shit if you wanted to do. You know, when some video games you play where the graphics are too good? Yeah. Where it's like, that's how some of these pictures look. So good. They're so realistic.

There also is something about like, like when we were out at Aldera, those pictures of the sky were just untouched. Which are almost better. It's crazy. And everyone's like, all right, like you boosted the saturation on this one and like brought down the contrast. Like, no, like I took a picture on Snapchat and like just like saved it. There's a lot of pride. No filter. I know that was kind of a phenomenon back three, four, four, five.

years ago. Yeah. But now I completely agree with you. And there are some people who stink at editing photos. They just overdo it. Yeah. And they look like clown shows. Like, that's just not real, dude.

Right. I want that file, that middle ground, all that. So we're working on it. We're, again, we're in the content game. We're trying to improve the photos I took from Chambers Bay are off the charts, just absolutely off the charts. The main reason for that is portrait mode. I just found portrait mode.

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www. Highline Wellness.com today and see what you have been missing. Now, let's move into some headlines. Tiger Woods and Jack Nicholas. This is a saga that will go on until Jack Nicholas dies, which I'll get into that in a few minutes. What happened here was this. If you recall, Tiger Woods went 11 years without winning a major championship, okay? 11 years.

Now, in that time, right? From the scandal and the injuries and the surgeries and all that, Nicholas clearly, clearly, went to a place where he believed he was sailing off into the sunset. 18 major championship wins. Tiger was at 14. He hasn't won a master's in 14 years. He hasn't won a major in 11 years. There's no fucking chance.

The guy could have a Phil Mickelson major championship career now until he's done. He's 43 years old. There's just no chance. That's what Jack Nicholas thought. Sitting on his rocking chair outside, like I did it. like tiger had his chance and he fucking didn't do it it's been 11 years i can now finally relax i can put my feet up like i dominated him i won this game he's gone he's done forever he's literally out there like like like like uh so what was it was it's not end game but what was

the one before that infinity war i'm not an invigerns guy oh my god at the end of infinity war um after the snap that thanos does his he just goes to his little fucking farm and he looks out on the farm and he sits there and just takes a deep breath like that's what I picture Jack Nicholas doing and then in the beginning of end game is what I picture

Tiger Woods coming back the bad boys I mean the good guys came back and they fucking found him and they chopped his head off that's like that is what happened and Frankie what has happened is Big Dick is back in town

he came fucking riding in on a goddamn mock neck horse he won the goddamn masters he won the tour championship he won the masters he's looking great he's swinging great big dick he's back at town he's back in play jack nicholas is a competitive fucking savage i cannot stand all of these idiots all of these

morons who don't understand competitive nature the savagery that it takes to be someone like jack nicholas who is won 18 major championship. Think about how dominant Tiger Woods is, okay? Think about the stretches that he went on. How much he just fucking demolished all these country club fucking soft little

tool bags demolished them, okay? He was still four short of Jack forever. Now he's still three major championship short of Jack Nicholas. That's how dominant Jack Nicholas was. Now, you can't get to that point unless you are a complete

and total savage. And If you think that savage wants Tiger Woods while Jack Nicholas is about to fucking die to come along and beat his record to win any more golf tournaments, you are an idiot. You're a fucking moron. Of course Jack Nicholas doesn't want that. He went from fishing in the Bahamas, sailing off into the sunset, to now he is back. And not only is he back, he is making quotes. He's delivering quotes. Like he doesn't know what the fuck's even going on.

They asked him, it's the Memorial Tournament, Jack's tournament, okay? They asked him about the fact that Tiger is sneaking up on Sam Sneed's record for most PGA tour wins of all time, which is 82. Tigers at 81 because he won the Tour Championship and the Masters tournament. Jack Nicholas's response to that was, oh, Sneed's win, I don't pay any attention to that. Laughter, it says in parentheses, that's not important to me. Might be to him, I don't know. then they asked him they continued do you think it would be a good achievement if he takes that over speaking about tiger woods beating samson's record tigers at 81 sams needs at 82 most bGA tour wins of all time jack nicholas i suppose so i don't know how you add up tournaments every time i go someplace winner of 113 tournaments winner of 110 tournaments i don't know how many i want what is he talking depends on how many the tour is taking away or giving me they change their mind every year about what they're going to count so i don't know what's what no one of the world could know how many tournaments Sam Sneed won.

He's just a senile old man right now. What are you talking about Jack Nicholas? We do know how much Sam Sneed won because we just know how much he won. He won 82. He has a number next to his name. That is how much he won. What are you talking about? What do you mean 113?

Where are you getting these numbers from? Him just acting like the numbers were made up yesterday? He's like that. He's like that fucking Zach Alf. Bannakis gift where it's like the numbers are flying around his head while he's at the fucking poker table. Like, uh, I don't know. What are you talking about, dude? Like, it's very easy to know how much you won.

When you won a tournament, they put a number next to your name. And then it goes up and up and up until you stop winning. And you stopped winning at a certain point. What was it, like 73 or something like that? Well, you know, he, he won the Masters in 86, but he hadn't won much at all. He had won a major championship in years, I think, since like six years. So, yeah, he had a very clear decline where he stopped doing tournaments. And he very much is aware of how many tournaments he's won, which is 73,

Sam Sneat, 82, Tiger Woods, 81. He knows that. He's known that forever. Even if he's saying, like, oh, I played in this one term and now they don't count that anymore, like, regardless, what they do count now, you don't have the most, right? Like, whatever they do count, you don't own that. You don't own that number. So to go back to what you were saying before, the competitive.

nature, of course he's going to say this stuff because after all these years of him not beating, the moment he didn't beat Sam Sneed was the moment that Jack Nicholas stopped caring about beating Sam Sneed and stopped caring about PGA Tour wins. He's like, I have 18 major championships and that is all that matters. He has the Brooks Keppka way of thinking about it that people only remember you about your majors, which I do agree with. And I will always say that Tiger Woods needs to get to this Jack Nicholas number and then having. the Sam Sneed just kicker is just like just puts it over the top right like if Tiger

wins one or two more majors and then has 86 PGA Tor wins like then I think it's just it's over like it's a combination it's a one two punch like he is the best golfer of all time not even a question not even you can't even look at him he wins everything so I do understand why he's holding on to this

he's saying oh those PGA Tor wins who gives us shit about that shit I win the things that matter and I'm the dominant figure in that category then you're 100% right Frankie and let me go on the record and say I want this very clearly on the record. Everyone listen that Jack Nicholas

if Tiger Woods gets to 17 major championship wins if and win which he will get to if and when Tiger Woods gets to 17 major championship wins Jack Nicholas will die dead before Tiger gets to 18. Dead on arrival. He will die when he lifts that 17th trophy over there is a zero point

0.000-0-0 repeating forever chance that Jack Nicholas will allow there to be a living day for him where Tiger Woods ties or breaks his major championship record. That's his final fuck you to Tiger Woods. You want to know what, Tiger? I've had 18 major championships. You've been away for 11 fucking years while I've been sailing and, you know, my grandkids have been growing up and I've been having a good old time. You think you're going to come back and beat me? Well, listen to this, buddy. I'm going to be dead before you fucking beat me.

And the last thing that I ever knew was that I beat you. Good night, Tiger Woods. Good night. I'm closing my eyes. You can't get me. I'm now your boogeyman. I may haunt your fucking shit from the rest. You may not get the 18 because I'm going to haunt your fucking dream.

He will say, the last thing that you will ever know about me is that the last thing that I knew was that I was ahead of you. And then I was just dead. What a mind fuck. I hope he calls Tiger, like... I'll bet my fucking life that Jack Nicholas will die before Tiger Woods gets... I don't want the guy to die, right? I don't wish they'll will on anyone.

Of course not. We're just saying it's a numbers game. The guy's getting old. He has this competitive nature. If he's going to go out on top, which he will, he's going to fucking... It's going to be over for him. And it's not like he's going to end his life.

This is just the way his life has come about is Jack Nicholas was destined in his own mind and his own life, his trajectory in life, his life was destined to be out on top. That's like who he was built to be in his mind. Tiger Woods will win like the 2023 British Open. Yeah. And then there will be a nine month wait between the British Open and the Masters tournament in like 2024. And in that period, that'll be a 17th major championship win.

He'll be, everybody will be gearing up, right? Just like they were in 01. Like, oh, he's got the chance to win the tiger slam. They're not going to believe he's like he's going to be so much older. And they're going to be like, how is he still doing it? All the hype, the hype's going to be going crazy. Can he do it? Is it?

And in that period, Jack Nicholas will die. Oh, yeah. He just will die. I don't, it's not going to be a suicide. It's not going to be anything like that. He's just going to die. I don't, it's just, that's what a great, like Jack Nicholas does. There's no fucking chance.

It's his last victory. That guy, correct. We'll let it happen where he's just a, live for somebody breaking his argument. We may actually give Jack Nicholas a 19th major if he does that. I think I want to be on record. I want to be on record and say that if, if Jack Nicholas times this death between 17 and 18,

I will award him one more major. I will award him the 19th. So I want that on record. I don't know what I'll be doing at that point. I don't know how fucking big this podcast will be by then. We may take over the world by the time Tiger Woods is on 18th. Totally. I wanted our record that I,

When I say we're on top of world, we may be in a position in which we can hand out majors at that point. Like Foreplay may be handing out like congratulatory majors to people. And I want to give one to Jack Nicholas if he passes away in like the six-month range between the 17th and 18th major. And anyone out there, if you think we're out of lying, anything like that, I don't know. We don't in any way do we want Jack Nicholas to die. I don't want him to close. We're just predicting what's going to happen. We're just, we're making, we're media figures.

we're supposed to assess all the situations, give our analysis, our thoughts on what is happening and what could happen, what will happen. Our prediction is that Jack Nicholas, who I'm looking right now, he's 79 years old, so it's not outrated just for, let's say, 22, 22, 23, 24, he's 82, 83, 84 years old. Jack Nicholas, in my opinion, will die

before Tiger Woods gets to 18 major championships. That's just something that we're predicting. And here's the opposite. it. If something happens, God help us that it doesn't. If something happens to Tiger Woods and he hangs up, you know, the shoes for one last time and he puts away the golf clubs, Jack Nicholas will live the longest life. He'll be 110. He will never, ever die. He will live forever. He'll outlive Tiger. He will. He will be like, I am still here, motherfucker. He'll be knocking on

Tiger's door. Like, how are you doing? Remember when you only one fucking 15? How's that back, buddy? How's that back? He'll be 125 years old being like, I'm still. here. How's that bad, Grandpa? He's going to be hitting the inaugural, the annual first T-shot at Augusta. The guy's going to be fucking 112 years old. Unreal. Now, also, let me say this. They're at the memorial, okay? Tiger and Jack, they had their little embrace today. I saw it. This is a nice little video, a little embrace. I gave ourselves a little hug. It's laugh out loud funny. And the reason it's laugh out loud funny is because if you hear Tiger Woods's voice,

and we're going to put the little clip in, when Barbara Nicholas comes into the scene, He gives the most I'm 25 years old now And I'm meeting with my grandparents But I know they still think I'm this sweet, innocent little 12 year old So I'm going to give him my baby voice type fucking voice Hey Barbara Oh hey Barbara

So great to see you Barbara Oh stay up there on that hill You know the inclines too much Let me get up there How are you doing? Your knees are still okay Him patronizing Jack Nicholus's age Oh Jack

Oh you don't have to come all way down here, you old fucking grumpy man. You don't have to walk all the way down here and greet me. Are you all right? Do you need any pain men? It's literally like, I'm like, in his ear, he probably was like, I'm still fucking here. And look at you, you're wearing your fucking white new bouncing. And I'm

out here fucking killing. He's been stiller and happy Gilmore. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, he's whispered in her ear. Oh, yeah. He gives him a real heart in here. He's like, you fucking, I'm still fucking here, Barbara. But you didn't think I was going to win the fucking masters, did you, Jack? I'm still fucking here.

Would you hit that ceremony opening T-shot? 2-10? Bet you didn't think I was going to win the fucking master's. All those 18 majors can't bring you back to fucking beat me right now, can it? Little bitch. Nice drive. I'm Darth Vader, and I ain't done yet. I think I out drove you by 200 yards on one.

Yeah. Nice drive, old man. That's exactly what that is. And listen, I respect the fuck out of what Jack Nicholas does. I hope Tiger Woods does it when he's older. I hope that when Tiger Woods is. 70 years old and there's a new upcoming golfer like like what

if bryson de chambot one day has like what if tiger wins 20 and bryson de chambot just fucking figures it all out and ends up with 19 like and you think like you think we want tiger woods to be like come on bryson like do it he's like no i don't like that fucking science shit that you did i'm like i'll

burn down your science i'm like i want tiger to be doing like crazy mononical shit just like jack is i want i want all these types of things to happen nothing that we're saying is against Jack Nicholas. We're just aware. Tiger Woods is the hero of our generation.

We, a huge part of the reason that Frankie and myself, Trent, Lurch, all of us, even a bunch of the guys on tour will tell you this, our into golf is because of Tiger Woods. And the generation before us, my dad, my dad's the biggest Jack Nicholas fan of the world. I bet my dad doesn't want Tiger to beat Jack

Nicholas's record. In the future, if you think that Tiger Woods when he's in Jack Nicholas's situation, like, Frankie's describing. If, like, Jordan Spieth or Bryson Nishambeau is about to break his record, is on the precipice of it, if you think Tiger Woods is going to be rooting for that person, you're fucking idiot. You're just an insane person. And we're saying the same exact thing about Jack Nicholas and just adding on that we think he will definitely die before Tiger wins 18 majors.

That's all we're saying. So Tiger Jack, it's the Memorial Week. Beautiful way to kind of intro. Can't wait to watch some golf. Beautiful way to intro the memorial. So a few weeks ago, this company, Free fly apparel, they sent me some shorts. They sent me some shirts.

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We know when Tiger's Tee and off here? We might. I've been so tied up just going to fucking Stanley Cup final games and going crazy and rooting and videos and radio and all kinds of stuff. You know, I know he's got himself a hell of a group. I think he's with our boy Bryson, who's the defending champ, and he's with Justin Rose, who is former number one player in the world. So he's got a great group. He always has a great group. He always has a great group.

Thursday. D. Shambu. Thursday. 8.26 a. m. Brison DeShambo. Justin Rose.

That's like six hours from right now. Yep. And they're team off the back, I believe, because they have a little asteris. Asterisk. Asterisk. Asterisk. See, that one always fucks me out because I think it's asterix with an X. And when I type it in and I'll...

Astorisk. But it's an ISK. Yeah. Yeah, that actually happened to me the other day because Dave said something in a pizza view. It was like, Asterisk. And I had to caption it. And I couldn't figure out why I couldn't get the word right. Asterix is what like a five-year-old says, I think.

Asterisk is what an adult says. I mess up. mess up asterix and then I mess up calic and callus I do that a lot man like I always get these calics on my right yeah it's callus see I just did it again what do I get on my hand

a callous a callus yeah which is like a hair is a calic yes god damn man I get that all the time yeah you got a callouss is on my on my hand from drumming and golfing in the rain and shit drumming by the way we have a pup punk concert in fucking Long Island coming up in July 27th, that Mulcagey's.

I don't know why I just popped into my head because I'm so fucking tired. I got to be a rock star in next month. It's crazy that every couple once you turn into a rock star. I think we're actually going to be recording a new song sometime soon, but I haven't been to the office. I don't even know what the new office looks like. Do you think that thing's done yet? No chance. There's no way. There's no way.

I'll tell you what. It's a little off topic and we'll get right back to the golf but all business Pete telling us for anyone doesn't know, he's like our fucking tech guy and he built our new office. the guy's crazy. You guys got stones the way he looks

around that office and doesn't give a fuck. He's got some stones on him. He told us, we moved in on like a Tuesday or something like that, and he, no joke legitimately said

everything will be done next Monday. That was six Mondays ago. No one's ever been more of a pathological liar than Pete. It's just not done. None of it is, it's just not done.

There's just stuff all over the place from whatever. He did a great job. I will say, it's got to be fucking difficult to build a fucking, two-floor brand new state-of-the-art office for 150 people in Manhattan. Both things can be true.

He's done a great job and he also just lies to us. Yeah, don't lie. Just say it's going to be done next month. Well, it's big, okay. I'm excited to see the office because we haven't been back. We're going to be back tomorrow. We've got to train early in the morning. That's it on Tiger and Jack.

Memorial Tournament. Mirfield, amazing place. Unbelievable place. I think Tiger's the five-time champ. So I like his chances. He contended last year. He hold out from the fairway for an eagle at one point. spectacular course in phenomenal shape.

I do believe this is the site of the infamous deer killing themselves by jumping, trying to jump over a fence, and then that guy stumbling upon a fucking horror scene where they were just deer that had impaled themselves. These deer just impaled themselves on this fucking fence. It was just, it was just a deer. It was just for anyone who did. cemetery. For anybody who doesn't know what we're talking about referencing from behind the greens, which is

like behind the scenes. It's a little thing we do. A little buffet bits. We take calls from people who work in the greens industry, aka, like golf. And one got called in and told a horror story about, you know, the Mirfield Village tournament, the memorial,

and he said they put up these fences that aren't usually there during the tournament. And the first time that he really witnessed it, they went out to check the fences and one day they were just like a dozen deer or impaled on this on the pose. They put these sharp fences

in the middle of like a deer grazing lane like these deer died. It's essentially like they all died like this was like their highway their highway was now like they've they've evolved in their deer world to run in this area nice

and freely and jump at this exact moment and they put like a spearheaded fence there and these fucking deer didn't know what was coming. They were like, oh, this is the part where we leap gloriously and then boom, they just fucking got stabbed in the heart and it's a horror scene.

It's a horror scene. It was a sad phone call. They would make a fucking horror movie called like the Dears at Mirfield. It was a horrifying story. And I, you know, I have to assume it was true. I don't know how this guy would call in and make this thing up. That would be one sick perverted

mind. And this whole conversation about Jack and Tiger and deer impaling themselves all over the fucking place on the deer highway. That's right, Examirip Hill Village, is really a long way to introduce a big tournament on the PGA Tour, which is the Memorial Tournament. Bryson, our good friend Bryson, he gave Frankie Borelli not two weeks ago a shipping lesson at a major championship venue. Beth Page Black, our home course, the People's Country Club on Wednesday evening at the driving range, at the PGA championship. Great lesson. Really good information. I just can't execute.

That's one of the biggest things... You haven't that time to practice. One of the biggest things that people, like all these stoolies come up to us all the time. Like right now we're at this bar event in Boston. And they're like, butter knives. And it's like, yeah, I can't hit my wedges. I get the joke.

Keep calling me fucking butternise everywhere I go. I go out to dinner. I go out to... I'm with my parents. Where we're next to Francesco Molinar. Everyone's called me butternise. It's nuts. And everyone's like, how was that lesson?

And I answer every single time the same way. Great information. No execution. I can't figure out what he said. I can figure out he said I can't do it. I need to practice. You know, it's hard when, when, like, your first fucking round is at Pebble Beach

since you got the Bryson. You know, Bryson. In U.S. Open condition. Bryson teaches you how to fucking chip. You haven't hit a golf ball cleanly in, like, six months, and you go and play Pebble Beach, Chambers Bay, Aldera, Gold Mountain, home course, which, out of those five,

what's your favorite? Gold Mountain. Aldera. One question. You think Lindsey from Chambers' mom is still sitting around asking people? You know, I got to ask you. Aldera, home course, gold mountain. And you know what we actually didn't even, that whole time we talked about?

We didn't even explain what her motive was, is that she belongs to Tacoma Country Club. And she just, she was so mad we didn't play it that she wanted every time we answered, she wanted to be like, your favorite place isn't even as good as Tacoma Country Club. That was her whole motivation. The whole motive was like, if I was like, go him out and she's like, not even close. Like, it was like, there's no answer. You can say any answer. Right.

There's no. Like a Gus actually, like, p. She was setting up for a question with no legitimate answer. Great people. For her people, though. She was great. It was great time. All right.

Let's move on. We did do a whole recap last show two days ago. We did an entire recap of our Pacific Northwest trip. So if you missed that, we went through. All of the course that we just listed. Aldera, home course, Gold Mountain, Chambers Bay. We went through the whole thing. We walked through the entire thing.

It was amazing. It was an awesome trip. I get a ton of people now asking, should I do Bandan Dunes? Should I do Chambers Bay? Should I do Cabot? All this type of stuff. There's a bazillion different factors into those decisions,

timing where you live, location, all that different stuff. What is a better golf course off the top of your head? Chambers are abandoned. Well, there's five golf courses You had to pick like one. They're top against Chambers, since Chambers only has one. So,

most people's favorite course or like the consensus best course at Bandon is Pacific Dunes. My favorite course there was Bandon Dunes. I would say gun to my head, I thought

Bandon's a better golf course. Okay. I don't think there's a correct like, I think it's like based off of whatever you're like looking for in a golf course or maybe like, I don't know. I think they're both just, I mean, truck and chambers base at U.S. Open golf course. You know what I mean?

Like I don't think you could, by you saying bandit, it's not like disparaging chambers. Like you're allowed to have. Now, let me say this. Yeah. The new greens at chambers, although by all accounts from everyone that we talk to are like significantly better than the old greens that they got chirped for and all that, they're also not grown in yet so they're like clearly brand new greens they kept them long so they were like pretty slow um they felt a little carpety and all that um now again they're brand new so like everybody kept saying they're a weird thing to understand like these are new greens

like like when i like i like i don't understand how people fucking make off courses and just like like i don't i just can't like understand that like you like create it like i just think like all these greens just grew here forever right like these are just new greens that like they bought and like you know what i mean like they just just fucking put them in. Totally. So weird. Now, there's some things, some aspects to Chambers Bay that the more I'm thinking about it out loud right now, like, the way the ball bounces at chambers and the slopes, I mean, there are several different holes where you didn't have to aim at the middle of the green or even like the middle right part of it.

You could aim, you can fly your ball 20 yards right to the green. It would catch a slope, pick up a bunch of speed, roll into the middle of green. You'd have like 20 feet for birdie. Yeah, dude, even with weird... That stuff's awesome. Even with weird greens or, like, developing new greens, I was hitting shots that I've always wanted to hit, like, watching TV. And, like, every...

I think everyone that is listening to this has always had a moment, or at least had a moment once, where you're like, how do I get the ball to do, like, what the pros do when they hit these shots and it goes to the back of the green? And then it, like, slowly rolls back and, like, comes back to where they wanted to go to, like, five or ten feet. like how does how come our ball as like amateur fucking hackers always just sits up there like in the fringe and never just like does anything i want i want that moment where like 10 seconds later i'm walking my bag and they're like oh oh here it comes or like maybe i hit it too short and it comes all the way back down like chambers bay was doing so much of that in which i was once in a green side bunker i can't remember what hole it was and our caddy's like all right here's your hole right in front of you and i want you to turn directly to your right and now look at me and hit your bunker shot way out here.

I'm not kidding. My left shoulder was looking at the pin. My chest was at the pin, essentially. And I was just, and I hit a nice bunker shot, and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, what'd you do? I, like, yelled at the guy almost. And all of a sudden, the ball just trickled and trickled and trickled

and went around, like it was like in a toilet bowl and just ended up next to the hole. Like, that's awesome. It is so cool. So much fun to play at a place like Chambers Bay. And you add the fact that, like, they've got the lone fir tree that just is this monumental kind of landscape thing. It's,

it has the same effect that, like, the clubhouse at Shinnecock has where, like, it's just always in the background. It's always there. You always notice it. On top of that, you've got the train.

Like, there's fucking train tracks on the Puget Sound. The train rolls through, kind of blowing its horn. And then on top of that, it looks like it's on the fucking moon, man. Like, the golf course looks like it's on the moon.

Gigantic dunes. Crazy. slopes on top of that. It's got the history of it, host the U.S. Open. And on top of that, you've got like Frankie's describing, which is in my definition, in my opinion, and something that I said on last show that I'm obsessed with wacky golf. A bunch of people recommended it. They said, dude, you have to play Tobacco Road.

Tobacco Road's down in North Carolina. It's not far from Pinehurst, as I imagine. I've never been there to that area at all. I don't know anything about it. But I've heard Tobacco Road is crazy and cool and wacky. I love wacky golf. There's some holes. The reason Cabot Cliffs, you know, obviously there's a bunch of reasons,

but one of the main reasons Cabot Cliffs is what I've said is my favorite golf course I've ever played is because it's got a bunch of wacky holes as well. I love wacky golf, right? Some people love like tree-lined golf where it's green, luscious, gigantic, tall, like oak trees lining both fairways. You've got to hit the ball straight. Then you got to hit the ball straight in your second shot. and it's kind of like people always describe it as like, oh, the courts is right in front of you and this and that.

On the PGA tour, fine. It's a fine test of golf. Cool. For me, like, when I'm out playing golf, I fucking love wacky golf. I love when me and Frankie,

you're like, it is a buffet of bits. It is a buffet of golf course. And so do I, man. It's fucking awesome. It's just so cool, man.

And it's, it's, when you have a little wedge in your hand and the, and the caddy says to you're like, okay, you can pull that 58 out and try to pitch one up here, little spin and stop the next of the hole. You can pull,

your putter out and try to drill one 30 feet past the hole it will catch a slope and come back you can take a seven iron bump it 40 feet up past the hole it'll catch a slope way up by the feske you roll all the way back down to six feet you'll have a pot at it like those same rules apply on your approach shot on your chip shots your drive might fucking you might rip a drive out there that catches a hill and rolls around a gray or a fairway bunker like it's just it's so different and fun so the more i talk about like chambers bay like i've never played a golf course like chambers bed i think bannon has a little special place in my heart because i played it with my brother my brother got a whole and one on the trip so sick we also were able to do like this twilight round with perfect fucking weather david mcley kid designed the golf course we had him on the show he's an absolute beauty of a guy of like a scottish guy so like that probably has a little bit more of a place in my heart a heavyweight battle right like someone's gonna come on top like you're allowed to pick banon's a fucking unbelievable god like and some people will chirp me about like changing my mind and stuff like dude sometimes like even talking about chambers out loud right now

i'm like well i don't know if ever played it off course better than chambers bay now that i talk about it because the course was fucking awesome and then on top of like how fun and wacky and different it was it's host of us open it's got the most gorgeous views and and landscape and scenery you've ever seen we couldn't even see the mountains which are supposed to be visible apparently because we had clouds riggs yweather did not deliver we had clouds and fucking rain um but you got the puget down in the background and all that. So, okay, we're not here to talk about and do a whole recap about Chambers Bay again. But, dude, the place was fucking awesome.

So I would highly recommend. And I also thought Tacoma was a really cool place. Going out to Hanks, going out with those guys with Moses, Maui, our boy, Casey, Davis, Zach, like Lindsay, all the people that, like, hung out with us and took care of us. It was awesome. I'll tell you a little something about Tacoma. I watched this fucking documentary. I watched this fucking Ted Butt, not a documentary, this Zach Ephron movie.

By the way, Zach Ephron, hottest guy, I think, of all time. I think you can put him up against, I mean, all the greats, right? Like, I mean, who would people say? Like, fucking Elvis Presley, like, of all the generations, like Elvis, fucking, what, JFK? Golf podcast, Arnold Palmer? Arnold Palmer. Studd. Huge hands, apparently.

Zach Efron may not be like that Arnold Palmer stud, right? He's not like a fucking war, like, like, he's not going to, like, roll up his sleeves and go to war. like being unreal, you know, but like, Zach Efron is a beautiful human being. He's a perfect specimen. And him playing Ted Bundy in this movie on Netflix. Uh, got me just typing in the word Ted Bundy because what a fucked up guy that guy,

Ted Bundy was. I was typing in Ted Bundy into the old Google machine. What a bad guy. Just a really bad dude. Well, he's a bad guy. Ted Bunn. I mean, bad fucking guy, man.

Just a bad dude. Really bad dude. Uh, just love killing people. Just loved it. Yeah, and I'm anti-killing people. Love killing women. It's like the most insane thing I've ever seen in my house. And women loved him.

He's like this good-looking, charming guy. I like, would, like, he'd, like, lure girls into, like, his fucking, I mean, it was just really bad. Go watch this, there's Ted Bunny tapes, and then there's this Ted Bundy fucking doc movie with whatever. And we're not going to talk about murder on this point. No, I don't talk about murder. No, I'm not a murder guy. Or death. I mean, we haven't talked about Jack Dying or Deer.

No, I'm not a murder guy. I don't know. Ted Bundy. I just want to say that I typed in Ted Bundy. And the first thing that came up on Google was. Tacoma still, like, rattled from the Ted Bundy murders. And I was like, what the fuck is this? Apparently, like, Ted Bundy just, like, dispersed body parts all around Tacoma, Washington.

And, like, we were just there. I got to tell you what. I think I didn't know that beforehand. That is rattled. That would have spooked the shit out of me. Yeah, it was one of the places he went. Like, I think that's where in the movie, like, his, like, his, like, girlfriend, like, saw a sketch that kind of looked like him. And, like, she called it into the police.

And that's, like, what eventually got him. Well, I'm a very spookable guy. Oh, yeah. I can be spookable. Like we were sitting at a restaurant Someone came over It was like You know Ted Bundy sat right there

And ended up like Fucking killing someone It's like I'd be out I think there's a ghost of my food Yep There's a ghost of my food We went to Hank's like Ted Bunny could have like

That could have been Ted Bunny's watering hole Who knows That's fucked up man It is fucked up Don't say that Well apparently he was just like In the mix in Tacoma He was in the mix

He was in the mix Look Chambers Bay University Place Tacoma Great spot Minest effect of Ted Bundy apparently spooked the whole place out. I don't want to talk about Ted Bundy. Awesome spot.

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And there we go I wonder how long that's been going on You know what I bet they could hear you I bet they get here I wonder how long that fucking thing's been going on I've been sitting right next to one of these fan AC things in the hotel And it's just registered in my head

That I should probably turn it off Because I was number one getting cold And number two it was just rattling I mean that had to have been on For I don't know Has this been on the whole time I think it has And the reason I think it has

Because I keep my room at 64 degrees Holy shit So that thing Damn man Well I'll be honest We haven't listened to the audio yet At this moment while I'm saying these words And if there was just

A wind noise the entire time You honestly have to suck it the fuck up And I'm sorry that it got this long Before someone finally addressed the noise Because if it had If it had been going on for the last 20 or 30 minutes You would probably like What the fuck is that noise

And you may not even gotten it to this point Because you may have just turned it off. But if you did get it to this point, I apologize. We may even need to put, we'll have to listen to it and may put a little fucking disclaimer. Like, you're going to hear a noise for the next hour and a half. I will say this. I think people, it definitely showed up audio-wise. But I don't think anybody really noticed it until I said it.

Until now, and I bet they're happy it's gone. Okay, good. That's my guess. Because it's like so much quieter here. It had to have been on the whole time. You got to say, you sound clear as far. fuck oh man you sound clear as day well good on me for fucking sounds like you're talking to the minutes we're going to talk now it's gone what sounds like you're talking directly into my ear

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Offer ends June 17. A couple more headlines we got to get to. Lady golf, okay, women's golf. I've been a champion for the lady golf scene for a long time now. And four play in general has. I mean, we've had Nancy Lopez on this very show last week. What a name Nancy Lopez? Well, you're going to be a, you're going to be an icon at something.

If you name your daughter, Nancy Lopez, she's either going to be the first, like, woman president, or she's going to be, like, you know, an unbelievable golfer. Like, you don't, like, Nancy Lopez. One of the great and more charismatic women golfers of all times. I mean, Nancy Lopez is an all-timer. We had her on the show just last week. Danielle Kang, the Kanger. We've had her on, I think, three times on this very show.

Brooke Henderson, every time she's in attention, I go crazy on Twitter. I love Brooke Henderson. I don't know why. I just love Brooke Henderson. I've never talked to her. I've never gotten into it with her. I've never communicated with her on any platform ever. I just love Brooke Henderson.

I think she's awesome. Canadian girl, fantastic player. Love the women's game. Been a huge lady golf guy my whole life. Hey, Kenny came out, and he had some very disparaging and quite honestly embarrassing, awful and offensive comments about women's golf. He, of course, he's on Sirius X-X-M. He does PGA tour radio.

talking about women's golf the LPGA he said i couldn't name four names wait yes i could i'll just go with lee just really bad really bad thing to say it's really dumb just a really dumb thing to say dumb thing to say um you know i a lot of people saying it's uh it's it's sexist it's racist it's racist it's bigotry it this call it what you want it's a horrible thing to say it's a horrible thing to say it's an embarrassing thing to say. Hank Haney should be embarrassed. I believe he has since apologized. I imagine he would.

I think Hank Haney is a smart enough guy to once he's off the live radio. We'll look at his comments and realize that what he said was very dumb, very offensive, very disparaging to the women's game, and very wrong. Now, there's a massive difference between what Hank Haney said and holding the opinion that with certain leaderboards, or with a certain shape of a lot of the top players in the game, just depending on how those players fall, how the star power of the leaderboards are going for a certain period of time,

of saying, you know what, like the way the game's gone lately, I'm just not that into it. And that's happened with me, to be honest with tennis, with there's just not many American stars in tennis. So I just am not, as a younger kid, I fucking love Dennis. Like Andre Agassi was my guy. Watching him play was all time.

And we say the same thing with golf all time. Like we root for American golfers over the European golfers. That's just how we are. That's that. You find reasons to root for people or root against other people. Those types of things are fine. What Hank Haney clearly said was wildly different. He said it in a very different manner.

And the way in which he said it was awful and wrong. And he deserves to be embarrassed and have to apologize for the whole thing. I know people were treating at us. We want you to weigh it. on that that's our way in yeah very dumb thing Hankaney said we've had Hankaney on this show he was of course Tiger Woods swing coach for several

years he was Tiger Woods swing coach during an incredible run that Tiger Woods have there's some people responding like Hankaney never did anything he did he should never be on the radio waves and this and that I mean Hankaney coached who's who's maybe going to go down is the single greatest player

in the history of the game and coached him to a pretty dominant stretch so that type of stuff I think is is wrong. Hankaney has a very solid resume, but he also deserves to feel very embarrassed for these comments. He should apologize for these comments. Unbelievably disparaging thing to say about the women's game,

and as a champion of the women's game of Lady Golf Forever, I didn't like it. So that's how we feel. The U.S. women's open is this weekend. It's at the Country Club of Charleston, the Seth Rayner Design. Looks like an awesome golf course. I've never seen a single shot hit on it.

I've seen some videos. Friday guys put out a video that was very cool some drone footage showed a lot of the different designs the templates all that type of stuff you're into course architecture you're going to love this I think the Friday guys called this year's US Women's Open the most promising golf event on American soil wow I think that's probably a little aggressive point being a lot if you get the chance this weekend tune in the US Women's Open our good close personal friend the USGA of course puts this thing on it's the biggest event in women's golf.

It really is, yes. You know, they have five majors. They have the U.S. women's British, or I'm sorry, they have the women's British Open. But I think the U.S. women's open is the biggest event in women's golf. I mean, it just is. It's the biggest prize, a ton of history, all that stuff. And it's at a really cool course, Country Club of Charleston, South Rainer, Design, all that.

So check that out. Watch them. It'll be awesome. I'll be even more enthralled if our girl, Danielle Kang, is in the mix. She's fucking awesome. She's our favorite. One of our favorites in all of golf, but definitely our favorite in the women's game.

So shout out to Kangher. Hope she has an amazing, amazing week down in Charleston. NCAA men's golf. Stanford won the National Championship. Didn't catch any of that. They did it this early this morning. I slept because we were up late last night, and then we had to go do radio

and go to the Stanley Cup final and all that. But I did catch yesterday evening, Oklahoma State, who they have Matthew Wolf. I saw you live tweeting that. They dominated this shit out of the stroke play competition. They won by like a million strokes. And then got upset by Texas. This guy, Chervoni, hits a massive birdie put on the 18th hole.

I was tweeting up a storm about that. And then the OSU guy, I can't remember his name. Last stroke he ever hits, Frank. In collegiate golf, he three jacks and misses like a four-footer in the dark that does a full toilet pole. I was going to say that was the one who did the toilet bowl. Comes right back in his face. That literally ended there. Oh, and he did the classic just stand there and just like completely stone.

Like, there's no way that golf ball just didn't go in the hole. A really tough way to go. Oh, man. And it was getting really, really dark. They're doing the whole fucking thing on the coverage about it's even dark and then it appears in our lens. All that fucking jazz. He goes on in three jacks, which I think if it's light out, there's no way he three jacks. It's actually true.

Sometimes you take videos or pictures on your phone, it does come up lighter. It definitely does. Yeah. But they just hammer that point home. It's kind of preposterous how much they hammer it home. It's funny. I mean, every time they say it's just fucking funny. He three jacks ends up losing.

Then Texas goes on, loses Stanford. Stanford's, of course, where Tiger Woods played, where he met the inventor himself of Notifications, Mr. Nota Bigay. Tiger and Noda, man. Man, can't imagine how, like, one side of those conversations were at Stanford, where he just sat there. And that was like the beginning of notifications.

Unbelievable. Also, Tiger, Tiger's Stanford run always gets a lot of slack. I know Dave always gives Tiger slack for apparently, he was at a basketball game once, Stanford basketball game,

and he just, like, ran, I think obviously he was, at this point he was Tiger Woods, and he went back to a Stanford game and, like, everyone fucking rushed the court, and Tiger apparently just, like, ran away from it, which I actually love,

like Tiger Woods just kind of just, like, floats away from chaos. we don't need him getting in the mix but every time I think of Tiger in Stanford like I just I don't know it's weird It took a weird time I don't know I just think of that fucking rushing the court

I love that you just think it's a weird time In Tiger's life I don't know Well in that book they do talk about How he did like he got like arrest He not arrested somebody like robbed his stuff Wasn't he doing that weird thing with his like first girlfriend He was like fishy Yeah

And you know he was just like he told his girlfriend I don't want to be around you anymore What kind of notification do you think We're coming out of those Jesus. What do you think Noda was telling the other guys in the golf team? I talked to Tiger tonight. You know, Tiger's...

Relationships are really healthy. Yeah. You know, he's really... He's just... He's really reading these books. I mean, you don't understand how well he's taking these tests. You have no idea. I talked to him today.

He's still ready for the test. He's going to destroy that exam. Tiger studied for that test. Most people took him about seven or eight hours to study for that test. Took Tiger an hour. And if I know Tiger, I know that when he only studies for an hour, it's GoZone. It's ready to go. So watch out.

I talked to Tiger last night, and everybody knows this, but he only studied for an hour, which means it's Gozo. Last time he only studied for an hour, we were actually in Palo Alto, and that's when he also passed an exam. So I was sleeping on the floor in Tiger's dorm room the other night. He actually listens to Sweet Home Alabama, which is, you know, his favorite song when he takes, economics. I can't think of any more words. This is our second podcast now. It's 133 in the morning.

It's 133 in the morning. We've been up. We've been drinking in the game. It's been a crazy experience. Barstall Classic. You go to Barstallel Classic.com. The reason I'm bringing it up is because this fucking thing starts June 3rd, which is Monday. The first event is at Wallston Golf Club and Quincy Mask. Two more huge announcements I made today.

July 29th, Forest Hill Field Club. It's about 30 minutes. outside of New York City of Manhattan. It's in Bloomfield, New Jersey. A.W. Tillinghast design. He also designed Wingfoot, Baltimore. He probably heard of those places. And Forest Hill Field Club.

Also, August 6th, Philmont Country Club. They just did, I think, $6 million in renovations. It's 30 minutes out of Philadelphia. Those round out are final two stops. We have eight destinations that are basically qualifier events. You play as a team of two. It's a stroke play event.

It's four ball, which means you just take the best. score of the two of you that counts as your team score on the whole 50% handicap the top six teams from each event advance to the finale the championship event which will be in October I believe we are going to announce that venue which is going to fucking stun you it's going to floor you the scenery the exclusivity the iconic nature of this golf course and where people are going to get to play that qualify for the championship is going to for you it's going to be

fucking awesome. I'm incredibly excited. It starts Monday. I can't believe it. You wouldn't believe the amount of business meetings I've been in for this thing. So many meetings.

What are you doing in all those meetings? I know people, Frankie, that I learned existed a couple months ago when I pitched this to Erica Nardini, our CEO, and then she pitched it to people underneath her. And then they brought me in as the commissioner and said, Rigsie Commission is going to run the show

on this. You need to have meetings with these people all the time. I said, who the fuck are these people? Turns out, there's a whole business section of our company I don't even know existed that I now have to meet with all the time I'm talking we're meeting on stuff Frankie we meet about what color

the pencils are going to be not even that what color the font on the side of the pencil of the scorecards is going to be little pencils for the scorecard like the actual physical you're talking about the font that you're not talking about the font that like the lead

like the lead part like lead's gray lead's just generic pencil gray what I'm talking about like Like the side of the pencil. You sit down. Sit down on your cart. You got a meeting about this? Was this on your calendar?

Like pencil meeting? Part of a larger meeting, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Sit down. Sit in your cart. You look at your scorecard. Right above your scorecard is that little pencil slot. You pull your pencil out.

What color is a pencil, Riggs? Well, I got to make that decision. I went with red. Okay, Riggs. Now you spin the pencil around in a fucking circle. What color on the side of the pencil, where it says, Barstool Classic, like, what color is that?

Is it gold? Is it white? Is it blue? Is it a mix? Well, I don't fucking know. What do you guys think? So, it was gold. So I'm pretty sure.

Now, that's just off the top of my head. I could be wrong. I made a different decision in the middle of the thing. My point being that I... It's crazy that like there's like a back... That seems just like, yeah, we're just going to do the color. It's crazy that like there's like back and forth with that. I think I might have made the mistake of being like,

I'm the commissioner. I want to make all the decisions. Yeah. And they're like, fine. I didn't know they would have the main. I mean, who the fuck cares? It's a pencil. It depends.

Right. But we got, I mean, everything, Frank. The color of the napkins. I had meetings. They mock up, Frank. Ten different napkins. Oh, my goodness. For the dinner.

There's a dinner after, a big happy hour, a bunch of open bar. These people are getting dinner to. They get, $300 these people are spending. Is going to go down as the single greatest deal in the history of golf? I mean, not to fucking talk down on the Borelli's golf out of it because it's my favorite time of the year, But the Borrelli's golf outings, like $200, $220, something like that. And, like, they're playing the Eisenhower Red Course, which, like, I think has been overtaken by, like, a form of, like, what's the word I'm thinking of? Like, that destroys grass.

Bacteria. You think bacteria kills grass? What's the, what's, like, when a golf course, like, gets, like, not algae. What's the word I'm thinking of? Oh, fuck. Fungus. Yeah. We're going to golf course has blank.

Is it fungus? It's not weeds. Whatever. Bethpage Red is, you know, I remember the greens have just, like, gotten overtaken by something. I think there was just, like, a wrong chemical imbalance when they were doing the golf course. But anyway, great time. Great time with that golfing, but you're also playing fucking the best golf courses in our region right now for $300. And you're playing competitive golfing.

with a chance to then advance and play, which you haven't talked about right now, you have planned this championship round, which people can win and play in for free, right? Like once you win, you play that round round for free. $300 and $200 and $2.3.00 covers everything. You're now playing a golf course in which, if you weren't in this tournament with a chance to win,

you may never play this golf course that the championship round is at in your whole life, but you're just going to play it because you won, you got in. I would say this, 99% of you listening, would never be able to play this golf course unless you qualify of the championship, which is awesome. So look,

Barcelona Classic.com. All kinds of announcements. I'm going to show the trophy off. The trophy came in. Apparently it's, I mean, I saw pictures. You're going to see pictures and videos soon.

We're going to announce the championship venue soon. We got a lot more to get to. We're going to be back, of course, on Tuesday. There were people that have been coming at the USGA and the U.S. Open already. There's a whole slate of issues I want to get to on that. I want to wait until. So we've got Trent Daddy,

excuse me, perhaps Lurch, and he's around and Frankie, to get into that. It's also now 140 in the morning. I'm just tired. I really want to go to sleep. We've been yawning up with Storm. So we've got a lot more to get to on Tuesday. We got a big interview coming up as well in the next,

before the U.S. Open, I imagine, or maybe slightly afterwards. We've got a massive interview coming up with one of the game's top, top players. So that's going to be awesome. so and a week and a half we're just going to be at Pebble Beach for the entire week. All that shit that happened to the PJ Championship. Okay, we had Brooks Capcom. He won. We had Sir Nick Faldo at Borelli's.

We had fucking Kiz, Hoffman, all those guys doing dinner at Borelli's. We were inside the ropes with them. We did the Bryce and D. Chambos stuff. All that shit that we did at the PJ Championship, we're going to be back. We're going to be doing bigger, better stuff. We're going to be at Pebble Beach on the fucking cliffs. All that's coming up really quickly. So stay tuned.

Appreciate you guys. listening we're gonna go to fucking sleep because we're exhausted hit it hard hit it however you want to hit it and I want to tell you right now I don't know if you were gonna bring this up but we recorded 20 to 25 minutes of this six hours ago and something just happened in the file this is the first time that's ever happened I have to say the file just went away now we didn't really talk about the things that we talked about just now and I have a piece of hair in my mouth but you know we talked about some stuff and it just went away we're like you know we're gonna knock a little

have been out before the game. We're going to get back and we're going to be out to finish the podcast, you know, or we may even do it before the game. We were pumped. We're like, hey, man, we are time managing. And you know what? We just fucked up. Something just didn't work when it was a fucking horrible feeling walking in this room being like, you know what? We have to redo it. But I will say, this time was a lot better. We did earlier. We did 35 minutes. 35 minutes. That makes me even more. That whole buffet of bits about Jack Nicholas dying. We delivered all those takes. We did it. We did it. For 35 minutes, six hours ago. Yeah. And then we found out afterwards that it just didn't exist. How does something just not exist? What does that mean? Like, it did exist. Something was going on.

Like, what does that mean? It doesn't, like, it was doing something. Something was happening. It was recording, but it just was recording to nothing, apparently. I don't know what that means. I will say, though, going into this one, this recording, I didn't think that it'd be as natural, but even when we were talking about Jack, like we said different things to the point where it was like the first time we did it.

It was funny. I got to say it was funny. Yeah. Just talking about that stuff was great. It was funny. But I did, you'd be remiss if we didn't tell you people. And we didn't want to bring it up earlier. I just want to say it.

So maybe someone would be like, oh, you guys are fucking warriors. We are. We're just fishing for credit. That's pretty much what's happening. That was like, that was my whole hit-it-hard little ending. But we wanted you. We didn't want to bring it up earlier because we didn't want it to seep into your all's brains. All you listeners out there, y'all's brains during the show that this was like a run back, repeat takes type of thing.

We covered a lot of different stuff. We actually did differently. And I think Frank is right. We fucking knocked it out of the park and did it better. But we want you to know that we had to go through the emotional turmoil of recording a good 35 minutes that we thought was funny, edgy, fresh. Also, we're like running in hotel rooms. Well, that sounded wrong. We're grinding it out in a hotel room.

That's not even more wrong. We have been alone doing the podcast because we've been on the road. So we've been doing this fucking podcast just alone, just us two. Like, really fucking, like, we've just been doing so much shit with hockey and Barclosol radio. Like, getting these podcasts out have been a grind. And it's actually, like, just fun to, like, sit back and just talk off. It feels great talking about. It feels great.

But the timing is just insane. I'm like, I feel like I'm bleeding out of my nose right now. Yeah, you guys sit in fucking cubes. I get it. Like, I know that's horrible. I know people would be like, you didn't do anything your whole life. I did. I worked at a restaurant in which, like, I was fucking opening up the doors of my dad and, like, making dough and shit.

Frankie, you're lashing out at nobody. Cleaning out the fucking, like, bar and shit. Like, yeah, I work, man. You're just screaming at the listeners right now. I get it. I get that our job's awesome, but I still. You're screaming at the listener. I still feel like my nose is going to bleed because I'm so tired.

I haven't been home, man. Turn an hour and a half into a podcast. I'm starting to freak out. I'm having a panic attack right now. Just yelling at the listeners. I'm having a panic attack right now. I haven't been home in 12 days. I want to lay down on my bed and I want to play some Fortnite and I want to be a human

being just for a second. I've run out of clothes. I have no idea what I'm wearing to the office tomorrow. We're taking a 9 a.m. train that gets us back at 1245. I have no idea what I'm wearing back to the office. I have no idea. I wonder. I don't think I smell.

Do you think the barista and my local deli thought I thinks I died? Probably. I think my mom, my mom, like when I go home, I don't even go back to my home home. I go back to my apartment. I don't think my parents even think I exist anymore. You know what they're going to hit me with? Oh, I thought you were never coming back, man. Oh, my God. That's what they're going to hit me with. They're barista? Oh, yeah. They have that kind of accent? Yeah, no, they're a guy. I go to like a little Indian barista.

Is that the, uh, so, I know, I'm thinking of the one that we went to, uh, that was by our old office. That's where I go. Broadway deli. You still go there. Oh, yeah. I'll go there like once a week. Say hi. Wow.

Get a breakfast sandwich. That guy, I can't understand a word that guy says. It's not because of his accent. It's because he mumbles words. Huge mumboer. I've had an unbelievable back and forth with him before where I was like, how I get a big and cheese. What do you want it? I'm like, what do you want on it?

I'm like, I'll, I'll literally say to him, I don't know what you're saying. Like, what do you want on? Like, now I knew that he was saying, what do you want on it? But he just, like, wouldn't, he never once, like, corrected. He just kept doing it the same way. So, yeah, that's my long hit it hard. I think they thought I died. They might, they're going to be stuck.

You're going to walk in you back. Hey! It's going to be a great moment. I'm already walking. Maybe I'll film it. Yeah, well, whatever. What? I was about to walk out the door, but I remember we got to do some other stuff.

We do. Fuck. I'm not done here. See ya. Hit it hard.