Fore Play - Jake Owen Returns

Episode Date: April 14, 2020

Country megastar Jake Owen (32:20) returns to the show. His last appearance was our most viral show yet, with the Phil Mickelson at Jordan Spieth’s wedding story making its way everywhere. Believe me, this appearance does not disappoint. We get great stories, and unexpected and uplifting insight into Jake’s world of songwriting and performing. Phenomenal interview!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. People should be excited, however, all of our listeners, we have Jake Owen on the show. It's the first time he's been on the show since his, I guess you have to call it electric appearance a year ago. He came on a couple weeks before the Masters last year. He delivered a bunch of good stories, including the one about Phil Mickelson at Jordan Speed's wedding. that went super viral.

We went down to his event in Vero Beach for the Jake Owen Foundation, and we've become really, really close with him ever since, had him on the show, and boy, it went in a different direction than I expected. It was uplifting. It was inspirational. It was very insightful learning about him creating music and all about him as a person. We obviously talk about good about a golf.

He tells some Augusta stories. I mean, this was a phenomenal. Yeah, Jake Owen is so just, down to earth. So, like, we talk about it in the podcast, and I was actually saying to this to you guys before, we started filming this, like, beginning part. But, like, you know, you ask him one question about music,

and then it gets into this whole, like, like, ideology of what it takes to make, like, a number one record song and what it feels like to hear your song on the radio. Like, it completely gets away from golf. But I think, like, when he talked to a guy like Jake Owen, who is a country music superstar. He's not like a country music. He's not a guy who just, like,

sings country songs and makes a good living. He sells out stadiums. He goes on tour with Lady Antebellum. He is a massive, massive superstar. So to get that perspective from a guy that wants to tell it, most the time when a guy's at that level, you'd think like, oh, like, I don't know. What's that movie with fucking, what's his name, with Lady Gaga?

Starsborn. Stars born. Like, you think like everyone's Bradley Cooper where it's like, just get me in the car and I don't want to hear like about the interviews and all that shit. Like, no, like, Jake Owen wants to tell you, like, I want to, like, tell you what it's like, because I'm just a regular guy from Vero Beach that, like, fucking made it big because I picked up a guitar and started singing at the honky tonk and shit. Like, it's so cool. I love that shit.

It's also, he's got great appreciation for everything accomplished, which is the coolest thing. Like, people that look back or when we talk to Max Homa or all the good guys that come on this podcast, when they can, like, pinch themselves or have appreciation for them being in a certain moment is always awesome here. like even when he talks about like PGA players like teened up if they're not teen it up thinking like this is pretty rad right now that I'm teeing it up at the masters like they don't have like they don't have a pulse on what's going on it's cool that he does so he's a pleasure to talk to it's also amazing that if you've been listening to this podcast since the first time we interviewed him you've seen the entirety of our relationship with him like that's when he walked into that that HQ that was the first time we ever met him he came in he obviously told the

incredible Phil story and now we went to his charity event we spent a lot of time with him and now he's just on the podcast, like one of the guys getting pretty insightful about some pretty cool. Yeah, I'll be completely honest. That's the first I ever heard of him when he came to the room. I'd never even heard. No word.

I may have heard barefoot blue jean night, like playing at like a golf course like Riggs was saying during the podcast. Like it's a golf song. Like I think maybe Riggs had it on his playlist when we'd been playing before. Oh, yeah, definitely. And like I heard the song for sure. It was like a number one hit. But like I'd ever been like Jake Owen like,

I'm just, I wasn't a country guy. And now that we've met him and fucking, you know, Lee Bryce and Larry Fleet and all these other guys, like I'm so into it because they sing such a like pop country type song where it's not like so deep, deep, deep country where it's like, all right, I can't really get into it. It's like, man, this has a fucking beat.

Are you guys, Jack and I was Diane is unreal. Oh, it's so good. Are you guys seeing the sunset behind me, by the way? I mean, it's great. It's beautiful. I mean, this is a preposter. Where are you right now? I'm at the, I'm on.

the deck, like the porch, I guess, of the Carolina Hotel at Pioneers. You're stealing their Wi-Fi. Stealing their Wi-Fi. It's closed. I'm not supposed to be here, but I get the Wi-Fi because the storm knocked out my power. I have no Wi-Fi. Talk to us about the storm a little bit. Storm is violent, my friends. The way you said, The Storm and acting like everyone was supposed to know the storm made me think of like a Game of Thrones like scene or something. Well, he was texting us earlier. He was like a tornado ripped through this. No, no, no. Briggs is like, the storm took out our Wi-Fi. It makes me think of like an old time movie where it's like the storm. I didn't say this storm.

I said the storm. Like you guys know the storm. Like someone listening in like Minnesota is like, oh yeah, the storm. Dude, I like, I, you know, I'm a pretty deep sleeper. But I woke up to a very loud like boom at like 5 a.m. And I was like, what the fuck was that? And I look. And then all of a sudden you start hearing a bunch of pellets.

And I'm thinking like, are we under attack in this home? Like who would be attacking us right now? And it was intense hail. So, and then it started a very violent lightning and thunder for like 25 minutes, like thunder that legit vibrates through like your loins while you're laying in bed. Thunder. Oh my God. And then fell asleep for another hour or so, got up, tried to go pee.

And like the light just wouldn't turn on. It's like, I'm not fully awake yet, a little disoriented. So I'm like, what am I doing wrong? Okay. Like, think about it. Is that the right light switch? And I was like, wait a second, that fucking noise storm go outside. There's tree branches down everywhere.

The roads are covered with debris of like, you know, down here. There's obviously all the pine needles and all the leaves. And it's like a little fast forwarded springtime down here. So there's shit everywhere all over the roads. I get a couple text from my buddies at Pinehurst. They're sending me pictures like the clubhouse had some serious damage. This little awning from the roof had like been completely ripped off and was sticking out of some of the bushes. like it was a scene here.

I guess some tornadoes nearby came through and whatnot. So the storm then headed up your guys way. I think dominated some of your guys power too. So the storm was pretty serious. Storm was serious. Yeah. Jaco and I was going to say like Jake Owen too when he came in was one of the very few people that we've ever had who was kind of provided to us at that time by our bookers.

Like we usually organically or kind of like grassroots. DMing, get all of our guests like ourselves. They're like, we meet Kiz and Kiz introduces us to like, you know, Pat Perez, or we run into Matthew Fitzpatrick on the driving range who like saw our video and then he comes on the show. Like it all happens that way. And Jake Owen was one where our talent bookers had hit us up and be like, hey, do you guys want Jake Owen on the show?

And I am a huge country music fan. I've been listening to Jake Owen forever. Somebody I stole, not stole. I borrowed one of my buddies's iPods when we were on a road trip in college. and all he had on there was country, and I'd never liked country before, and I started listening to, like, Kenny Chesney, which is very poppy, like you're talking about Frankie,

like country type music that's, like, catchy, and it's not super hardcore, deep country stuff, which is just what I like. And then Jake Owens, that same kind of genre. And so I've known Jake Owen's music since, like, like I said, since he had his first, like, hit or two. So when they were like, he'll come in, I knew he had a little bit of a golf background.

That was pretty much all I knew. And even, like, he did an interview, you know, with the KFC radio. guys and they were kind of like yeah it was fine like whatever you know i don't think it was too crazy and we had him and it was the most viral shit we ever done so you never know and um and like i said this is a very different show than that one in a really cool way it's like just catching up with one of our buddies and us like almost learning like he our buddy finally decided to open up with us and tell us some like deeper background stuff about some of the songs that we'd never heard before

we're all just here mesmerized like oh my god yeah it's crazy you said um pat Perez sorry um i have to go back. PXG irons. What do we think about those things? You know, you go on the website, they look so cool. They're like the elite golf clubs, it seems like of the world because, like, they're fucking $900 an iron. But like Pat Perez is like the only guy in the world that uses them, I feel like. And like, I don't know, you just never see them on the golf course. Like, what do we, do we think that just overpriced to be like elitist? Fun fact about PXG, they've never won a major championship. Okay. So like, what's going on with PXG? Like, I was talking to someone one the other day actually um like Brock Nelson was like oh like look at this this iron like this iron

deal for lefties is like half off right now like you should jump on this like and we were looking at it's like a nine hundred dollar iron and it's like 350 it was like even more than half off it was nuts and like you did a whole set now is like whatever 1200 1300 bucks but it's usually fucking five grand and I'm like man like it seems awesome because pxg's you just hear pxg you're like oh man that guy's sick like pxg like who who spends that much money on a on golf clubs you must be insane but like you never see anyone use them ever i've never seen pxg's in real life ever no the whole never see no never use anyone use it no the whole they just can't sponsor though a top golfer they just don't have the funds for that they do the whole thing is the whole thing is the whole

the whole thing is bob parsons is a bazillion trisillionaire and he basically was like he he went recruited i believe this is a story a few like top club designers engineers whatever and said here's essentially like whatever your budget needs to be create the best irons and golf clubs in the world and that's like what happened and then they've grown it from there so they've been able to get like billy horschel was pxg guy i feel like um and he's i mean they've won tournaments i think billy horser won a tournament or two when he was a pxg guy and it's probably not like um a direct correlation thing that that nobody's won a major with him it's just an interesting fact but like yeah the whole fitting and experience is supposed to be top notch it's supposed to be top notch it's supposed to

to be unparalleled. You do pay a ton of money per aisle. It's super expensive, but I've never hit one. I've never seen somebody really hit one. Lurch, you've been in a group with like amateur golfers that have had PXGs?

Yeah. Yeah, I forget who it was, but somebody had PXGs. I can like vividly remember them. And they have drivers now. I mean, this isn't like a plug for PXC

because I genuinely don't know. I was looking at their website and it's like one of those websites that's almost like you feel dirty going on it. It's almost like a porn site. Like I was just like PXG.com. And you're looking at all these like pictures of the irons and I'm like oh like I don't know if I should be on this should I go to my

private browser right now because this is like you know you go to tidalus you go to tailor made you go to muzuna whatever you want for your irons like I'm I feel a little dirty going on pxg but do you like the look of pxg versus others I do I do I do those black dots I don't know if I do so that's the one thing that I haven't fully come around like I still think you know like a pure blade whether it be really a lot of different companies but tidalus is the one that comes the mild. Tidalus has slick blades are just like, where you can see,

I don't know if there's something in your teeth. In the world, yes. You can see something's in your teeth by looking at iron. That's, that's pursued. Yeah. It's also like a clean, thin, oh my God. Iron,

that's shiny that just says in that classic script, Titleist on it is like, yeah, here's the same thing they do with their balls, Titlist. Like the ProV ink that they use is so much cleaner than like the velocity. We learned all, we learned all about the balls.

we went to the ball plant. Yeah, ball plant is, shout out. The ball plant is something out of this world. Throw your three is up. The thing about PXG is that I saw they had all black option for irons. You can get like black to black to black and you're just swinging a Darth Vader weapon. It's crazy. It's crazy.

But no, yeah, it just like it hit my mind where I'm like, how can something be like promoted and known as like the best in the sport? And like you don't really see anyone use it. it. You think also, like, people don't want to get PXGs because they don't want to be that guy. It's almost like wearing a pro, like, outfit to the T-box who are, like, having, like, a staff bag and shit. Like, who do you think you are with PXG? Yeah.

You got PXGs, but you're a nobody. You know who rock PXGs are like, uh, the NHL guys, right? Who all have like, uh, a ton of money, but they're young and they all love golf and they all, like, they all get in their text group like, hey, I'm, I'm doing it. I'm going to get the fitting and I'm getting the PXGs. It's like what's happening right now in the tech. That's who has that. All those guys have them.

I mean, Zach Johnson's a PXG guy. That might end your love. Is he actually? Yeah. Yeah, he is. Really? I know he's got that PXG putter

that he puts the, yeah. Speaking of Zach Johnson. The open. It had to be like within the last four or five years. It was. Yeah, it was right after one of the open. Speaking of Zach Johnson, I've had this photo on my phone that I've never tweeted out.

It's just JT and Zach Johnson looking at it. each other at at the president's cup and they're like perfectly linked up and then like someone's back there like I don't know who that is like fist bumping after they just hit a huge pot on like 15 or 16 it's a great photo I've never tweeted out I want to just like release it to the world it's a I vividly remember us standing right there me too I feel like we just teleported back to that moment where you were like you showed it to me then you were like rigs you're telling me in your phone in your conversations at the PJ tour I'm not allowed to tweet out this picture and I was like you are not allowed to tweet out of that picture.

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Very fun to watch. So cool to watch. It was. It was great to relive it. I thought that they did a great job with the Nance Tiger kind of integration. into the whole thing. You know, we were kind of doing our live stream, so we didn't catch every word of it.

But luckily, they put some of the clips on and the one that we were all kind of tweeting about where he went on for like five minutes going back and forth. Nancy, obviously, Nancy almost got him to cry. That's what Nancy does. He gets everybody to fucking cry. The two of them going back and forth and Tiger telling the story about how, you know,

he wasn't sure if his kids were going to be there. And then they kind of agreed that the night before he said, hey, maybe you guys should come up and catch the masters. They were at like a youth tournament. And then they came up that morning, but they teed off so early that Tiger didn't even see them arrive. So he had never seen them. And he turned off his phone because he's going to play the final round and the final

group of the fucking masters. So that's even funny to think about. Like just thinking about Tiger being like, okay, now it's time for me to turn off my cell phone and like go win the masters. That's such like a normal human thing. But then saying that he saw them for the first time on the seventh hole, like noticed them in the crowd and then was kind of wondering where they were the rest of the round because he never saw them again but found out after that they watched in the clubhouse

so they could have a better view and then all that culminating with him giving them hugs his daughter Sam that she hates the spotlight so he like turned her away from the crowd and like all this stuff was just like holy shit nance how did you get that out of tiger it was amazing yeah the whole like him and charlie thing uh is obviously emotional as shit like him and his dad in 97 and then the whole thing like telling the whole story and how tiger woods his life is literally a movie no matter what he does it's always that picturesque perfect moment whether it be perfect in a good way or perfect in a bad way for like the news outlets to be able to run for years and all these things like he just finds a way to make it so dramatic and so

story like oriented it blows my mind that everything he does is so perfect and so perfect to like what a fucking writer's room for a movie would write. Like, yeah, of course, Tiger goes down this crazy path where he doesn't win for a decade and then comes back. His father passes away, but his mom's still been there from the beginning. She drove him to all the fucking, like, little tournaments and drove him hours away so we can get to the tea times on time. And then now his son has never seen him win a tournament or his daughter.

And all they know is like negative stuff about their dad when it comes to golf, like him being hurt and missing, like losing, losing. the open and all this stuff. And now he's hugging his son in the same spot. Like, what are we even talking about here? That all happens. Like, if Tiger, like, it's just so crazy. And he even actually alluded to it during the broadcast with Jim Nance that, like, had he won three or four years ago, wouldn't have meant as much to when he won just now because they're of age to understand what's happening. Like, it happens to me all the time where, like, I went on family vacations with like my grandfather and stuff. I remember a little bit what happened. But if I was four or five years

older, like all the stories, my parents tell me and all this stuff, I didn't remember so much more. When I'm 11, 12, even like eight, like, I know things more than when I'm like, I mean, that's what like, Ranger fans consider like 94. I mean, they're one years old. Like, you don't even know your name. You're literally shitting your pants. The 18th green. And it's Tiger and it's done. It is like the most special moment like I've ever seen in sports. Like all the storylines that go into Tiger winning the Masters, it was insane. How many people had a chance for the lead, everything that I forgot over the past year of like what transpired. Then Tiger comes out.

on top, but when he hugs his group, and then he walks off and Charlie is like ecstatic, like looking around, like, this is my dad. Like, Tiger gave him like a backwards under scoop, like high five or low five. It's like, dude, what a moment. Like, yeah, congrats for you. Because he had talked about it before, just exactly what Frank was saying, how his kids just haven't been old enough. So the only thing they know is him being hurt and all that shit.

So just watching him do that walk, like you said, Charlie is like, oh, man, this is what, it wasn't just a myth. wasn't lying like he's actually this guy yeah it was also cool to like you could very much tell rewatching that and see even when you saw it the first time but then also like the way that he talked about it that like he was pumped that he won for them because it like made them happy like he did something that made the people that were most important to him like really happy which like if you think about tiger a decade ago and when he went through all the shit about how like you could boil a lot of that down to just like selfishness and like it'd become this mega star who like

it was all about him and he was going to do whatever like made him happy because he's tiger woods and all this that now here he is like a decade removed it's flipped the script between him and his dad's and now him and his son and he got the most joy out of that because he was able to like deliver happiness and like pride to his family and like his kids and robbie mac and his mother who's like been there through all of it and it was like dude this guy cares about out he really is a, he's become a full circle, like, real person. It was like, it was awesome to see. It was just so cool to rewatch it.

I love that Robbie Mac's in there. Robbie Mac is the best. His Shelley with just like one arm up, like a holding tiger and looking around. Just be like, yeah. Dude, he timed it. Like, I don't know why, too. When he threw his arm up, it was like in Lion King when like he threw his arm up, but the whole crowd went like, yeah, like all at the same time.

It was amazing. He lifted them all up. He did. It was like, Robbie Max just. got the power but yeah it was uh it was very very cool watching it again so congratulations once again to tiger woods uh winning the 2019 masters he's still the defending masters champ he's so sick yeah he's very sick uh Blake and Hawaii continues to chirp us so Frankie actually did a great job calling him up uh and bringing that back up during the Jake Owen interview but um I mean at some point

we have to go to Hawaii and just and beat this kid right yeah there's a little all of us too There's a little piece of shit out in Hawaii just flopping balls all over his front lawn, and he has a phenomenal little setup. He's got a great swing, but you know what? Like, we're going to have to beat him at golf. Like, there's no other option. Now, we've posed this question. Like, if we play at his distance, he absolutely smokes me.

I think that's true. So, like, I don't know, like, why I would go all the way to Hawaii to do that. So he almost has to come to our turf. I'm not like, I'll, I'm not going further than I go for a cup of coffee to lose to a fucking eight-year-old. There's no chance. No, I'm not doing a 12-hour flight to Hawaii to get my ass beat from 5.000 yards. No. We got to do it, Frankie, and I need you.

Like, we're going to do it. We're going to, and we're going to film it, like, very highly produced. And you need to take it dead seriously. You need to come on to that tea and act like Tiger in the fight around of the master's, like, don't talk to him. When he's like, Frankie, what's it like to work for Dave? I need you to be like, good and then just like storm right past him like that phenout story and you're just take it so serious this kid is like such a good trash talker too where he like kind of just like

oh yeah frankie and i'm just like i'm gonna like i don't want to like physically harm the kid but like someone's gonna have to like if the kid keeps talking shit like i mean he's probably my size i wonder there's actually i watched something last night there was uh it's called the short game it's like the best seven and eight year olds in the world go to pinehurst every year do you guys know about this? Yeah, he goes to that. He has a Pioneer's putter head cover. No way. I was wondering if he like competing. He probably wins the goddamn thing. He's in C-

this guy. I won that part of it. This would get you infuriated. So I'm watching this last night. Has anybody seen this? No. So this eight-year-old travels Jeb. He's supposed to be this like prodigy golfer. He travels from Asia. I'm not sure

of the country he's from, but anyways, travels to Pinehurst. There's a rain delay. And it's Very tough. I mean, rain delay on the PGA tour with your buddies. If you had a whole buddies all over the course, like it would be tough to organize. They're trying to organize kids and their parents

to get them to the right teas when the rain comes back. This kid is late for like when the tea time start back up after the rainstorm. He's like a minute late, like not much after it doesn't seem. They give him a 10-stroke penalty. They enforce the penalty, 10 strokes. He's out of the tournament. Can't come back. He's a kid.

That rubbed me the wrong. way. You ever see these like little, they ever see the pageant moms and all that shit? Oh, the parents are crazy. They need to be,

they need to be put in a home. If you're talking about parent, people that need to be able to home. Crazy parents, crazy sports parents need to be put in a home. I'm sure you guys saw some of that with hockey. I mean, they're crazy.

Oh, my God. My parents get, family friends of my, my friends' parents get kicked out of rings. Dude, there were, there were all kinds of parents and kids who had sign language from the glass.

So they would stand like, the dad would always move. So he'd be up against the glass of the offensive zone where the kid would be facing during all the face offs and everything. And they would have little sign language about like, you know, skate faster or fucking don't pass to like rigs or like whatever the fuck their shit was. Like it was crazy. Sports parents are nuts.

Have you ever had it? So have you ever seen a parent get kicked out of a hockey rink? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So then the ref will legit hold the puck and will not drop it until the parent leaves the premises. Is that like protocol? Not like a 10 year old kid's squirmy

because his dad has lost his mind in the stands and the ref will not continue the game until the parent leaves the ring. The puckhole means like serious shit is going down. Yeah. This is elevated beyond the game now and it's like a life issue. Oh man.

Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah. I mean, yeah. There's definitely a fine line. between like pushing your kid to like want to be like succeed in what he's doing and then like or she's doing and then and then like taking it way too far like tiger's dad there's an obvious like way after reading that book with his face plastered on it like tiger's dad took it a little bit too far if we're going to be honest way too too i mean that's well documented i mean he's hitting

golf balls in his garage and to the sound of the to the sound of him making contact he they fed tiger so it's like he was hungry listening to golf they've also had like um breakdowns that he was to in his ears, it's like, you will kill, you will not let up, you will kill. It's like, did he have a military, like, psychologist, like, speaking in his ear to make him mentally tougher every day. Just like a seven year. A real quick call back. He's entering a game that was like this like wealthy, like rich boy game. And here comes this too savage.

It's like, of course he's going to win. You know what? I kind of love that like Tiger Woods was like, like, I'm not going to like compare him to Jesus Christ, but like we needed someone to like sacrifice. like Tiger had a horrible upbringing like in that aspect. But like, man, like we got Tiger Woods out of it. So if one person had to go through it, I mean, I'm sorry, Tiger. You have beautiful kids. You have a great life now.

You're healthy. Like everything turned out great. I'm happy it all happened because I'm like what Riggs was saying. It all came full circle where he's now like a human being where it's and you can see that he actually has like healthy emotions. Decade and a half ago it was not that way. Listen, it was going to happen to someone and I'm just happening. I'm happy it happened to Tiger Woods because he's my favorite person.

in the world. Real quick, before we move on, wherever, that little group chat that's going on amongst the PXG hockey players, this was just written in there. It doesn't care, they don't care how much goes into making these irons. I was reading that the wedges today are cut from a special alloy to have the best feel. It takes them four and a half hours to cut one single wedge. What is PXG doing? Like how much, how long does it take to cut a Voki wedge? Yeah, it's true. I don't know. I just love that PXG has hammered home like this promotion. of like they're taking these the certain like materials in the world that that like no one else can get it's almost like when peter millar makes like makes those uh quarter zips and like

the colors it's yeah it's vibranium it's yes i mean it's crazy they also made the argument that endorsement money is probably why no one goes as far as uh taking pxg's as much as they do titleless and tailor made because maybe they don't have as much to give in endorsements but they yeah i think that's definitely true i don't think think it's like, and no player, I don't think any player really makes a pure decision based purely on the merits of the clubs. Correct. Not even Tiger.

Like I think everybody. Dude, I realized that when they did a promotion real quick. Hit my brain just now. What was it? Oh, it was Justin Thomas walking into like a titleist like van or one of those trailer, those trailers that they have at the tournaments. And they were like unveiling a brand new iron. And he's like, I haven't even seen these yet.

Like these guys don't even know what's coming out next. They're just like, oh yeah, here's the new clubs that you guys are just going to use because you're. team title is like this is like just what you're going to use and like he was like oh shit like this is awesome like he found out that those were his new clubs like at the same time we did yeah and there's like there's definitely a level of like they have to sign off on it right yeah if one company is going to pay the most but you hate their clubs like I think most players would be like no I'm just not going to do that but but there's it's never purely that especially like even with tiger like tiger will go

in they're just going to like put all my input in and it'll just you're just going to make what I lot. What's the hockey brands that, what's the hockey brand of college hockey? Like, what is it Bauer or warrior? Or is it like you can't use like a certain stick in college. Like, um, see, that's all changed so much since I was there. Like we, we used all, we had like all warrior stuff. So like all the shit that I still have is warrior. Because I remember like talking to Devontes and he was like, I remember like, so now he's Bauer and like, I'm like, oh, you're a Bauer guy. He's like, yeah, but I couldn't use it in college. Like I was a Bauer guy my whole life and I had to use like whatever it was like CCM or some shit.

Well, it might have been, yeah, it's probably his team because every school has a different deal. And I never knew that had a fucking big difference in hockey. Huge difference. Skates too. Like they used to make like graph skates were like it made for aliens, but certain people wore them and you had to like have a totally different like feeling to your foot. Yeah, it's everything.

Like look and comfort. I mean, Frankie, like you play whatever clubs. If someone just handed you like Wilson's right now, like it'd just be different, you know, like you couldn't wear whatever. shoes you wore and they just gave you something else or if they like you were peter malar and now they just like now you're dickies like it's gonna suck like we see best around with wilson's once in a blue moon oh yeah i want that 802 putter i think uh all right folks we've got like i said a uh a really really special great interview with jake owin who i would say is now one of our good friends

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Good, great. We're good, man. We're hanging in there. It's good, man. It's good to see you guys. Everybody's healthy, you know? It's been a little time. I've been at the house longer than I've ever been in.

home in my life. Dude, I feel like I've hung out with people in like a year and a half. Yeah, it looks like you're practicing that golf game. I know I've been giving you a little bit of hard time on that. I'm getting a little lower. I'm getting a little better. It's Sir Nick that I got to watch out for. That guy's fucking ruthless right now.

What was the, what was the shot you figured out? So fucking Stu Hagastod, you know, he is? No idea. He finished. I got a little pollen on my, my throat. He finished low am at the masters like two or three years ago, and he was like,

yo, you need to start playing a cut off the tea. So I went to the range and was like, all of a sudden I'm hitting these cuts. I go out to the course and like not even fucking close. I mean, yank hooks, like gigantic slices,

50 yards right. So I thought I had a cut shot off the tea and then now I just don't. Is that your choice of shot as a little cutter, a little butter cutter? No, I usually play kind of a vicious draw, and he convinced me that cuts the way to go that maybe he was like, maybe you'll lose six or seven yards, but you'll be able to control it. I was like sick, that's awesome. And then I just, I mean, I just can't even hit it about. So. Trumbles. I feel like that with your irons, though, you're going for more of a sawed-off approach these days. Yeah, I can control. I clubbed down one or I club up one and I hit a little like sawed-off thing and it goes straight.

whatever works, man. I mean, I killed you last time we played. It killed me. Absolutely killed me. So everybody, where's everybody? So you're still the Pinehurst, Briggs? Yeah, I'm at the Carolina Hotel. We lost all our power today with the storm.

So I'm literally sitting two feet outside the closed-down hotel because I can steal their internet. And Frankie and Lurch and Trent, you guys are back in the city or what? I went back to Long Island with my family. So back in my family's house now, just hunkered down here, helping out with the restaurant and stuff. We have, you know, all hands on deck there. So I've been doing this and that.

It's been crazy. Yeah, man. Well, I'm down in Charleston. Like, as soon as the news broke, I just bailed and then came down to visit, these guys are going to give me shit. But my girlfriend down here. He has a new girlfriend. And every time we do a podcast, he says the work.

Can't get five minutes into the show. There's a word girlfriend. Some girls place in Charleston that I'm hanging out with, I'm, she's now had me for the last couple weeks. No, she doesn't, I mean,

she's not pleased with me. You know, we, it's tough on any relationship right now. You can't get a second to yourself. I'm having this mustache out of boredom. Also a new relationship, right?

Like usually you ease into like the movie. I was not just saying, how long is this thing going down before you had to call her girlfriend? This is not been going down too long. You decided to call her. Totally. I mean, we've really only been dating for like a couple months. And by couple, I mean like closer to two than four. But now you live crazy, dude. I can't even live with like people I've lived with my whole life.

Like I'm back here with my family. I'm like, ah, I can't be here. And then you're with someone that you just started dating a month and a half ago. You live with her. It's insane. You guys live together. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I say we try and get lurch in as much trouble as possible. Yeah. How many months do you think you would have taken for you to move in with her had this pandemic not come around?

Oh, I mean, years. Years. I mean, there was so fucked. There was nothing on my horizon. It was like, I'm going to move in with a girlfriend for years. I am in, I'm in New York City. I thought about leaving. I waited, and then it was too late for me to leave.

So now I'm just here riding out the storm in the epicenter. of the coronavirus. And how is that? I mean, awful. I mean, it's like, it's strange. Like, when I look outside my window, there's nobody out there. It's right on New York City 2nd Avenue. So that's strange, but like I'm kind of a homebody as it is, and I didn't leave a ton.

Not going into the office stinks. I miss going into an office and working more than I thought. But other than that, my roommate, he's from Jersey, and he just went back home a couple days. So now I'm just hanging by myself. It's not bad, actually. Yeah, I miss my boys, man. Like, I miss the guys in the band and the crew.

Like, I'm assuming it's probably like going in the office every day. But I just miss like the routine of seeing it's what inspires me every day. You know, don't get me wrong, being home, you can probably hear my little girl in the background yelling. But being home has been good because, like I said, I haven't been at home this long in a long time. But I miss just like the camaraderie of the boys. 100%. Are you in Nashville? Phil, is that where you're coming?

Yeah, I mean, I have this little, since I've been home, because I hadn't been home that much, I have this little, like, set up in my barn. And I just, like I told you, I was making some music earlier today. So I just have this little setup and coming at you live from the state of Tennessee, man. Yeah, I tuned in, actually, one of your live, like Instagram shows or whatever, it came up that you were live. And I checked it out, and you're playing the guitar right there.

I think what you do is pretty sweet when you play the guitar for everybody just to tune in. It's got a nice little echo in there, too. Oh, yeah. It's a nice audio setup. He's got that nice little reverb, you know. Yeah. It's a natty reverb. It's good.

Frankie's musical. He's our little drummer boy. We, I was so, so this obviously pandemic, everything's canceling, you know, sports and everything under the sun. You had a tour coming up? Yeah. I was actually, I was on a tour on my, what we called down with the Tiki Tongue tour. which is me and acoustic guitar and a couple of my buddies.

Larry Fleet, you guys saw and Scottie down in, down in Bureau. And then that got, the last few shows got canceled, and then we're supposed to head out with Lady Anabellum starting this coming month, but they're all pushed back, I think, to at least almost August. So I, yeah, it's just been kind of... So Larry, Larry Fleet, like we obviously, he was playing when we were down there for the Jake O and the Foundation, which was incredible. Thank you for that, by the way. That was a blast.

Yeah. Shout out to Viro Beach. But like, you know, they say you kind of like took them under your wing and stuff. Like, how does that work? Do you just see a guy? You're like Larry Fleet sweet. Hey, you're with me now. Like, how does that work? No, I mean, I think he was, well, he was playing in a barn, not far from here where I live in Kingston Springs, Tennessee. He's from White Bluff, which is like 15 minutes down the road. And he was just saying he sounded good. And I told him, I was like, man, if there's anything I can ever do to help you, I want to because you're amazing. He's like, all right.

And we kind of connected about a week or two later and kind of started kind of just helping him find guys to write songs with. And then two buddies of mine that we have a management company together, I introduced him. The next thing you know, just he's a likable guy. His songs are real. And I think people, the reason you're drawn to folks as artists or whatnot is like, you just believe that guy's story. You know what I mean?

And Larry's that guy. And so he's killing. now it's awesome he's got a record deal y'all saw him down there at the event i mean people give standing ovation everywhere he goes so it's pretty cool there's my daughter in the background dude yeah he got i think he got two or three standing ovations and i i felt real feelings when larry fleet was playing those songs it was incredible dude he too he like takes over the room we first met him shout to lurch voice takes over the room we first met him at like backstage at your at your show at your event and we legit just thought he was like when

of your drinking buddies. He's like, oh, what's up, boys? We're shooting this shit. 20 minutes later, he legit brought the house down. Everybody was standing up. Like, he's just that kind of guy. He is. And on the acoustic tour that we just kind of were finishing up on before it got canceled,

he was just, he saw that every night. The people that were in the crowd was just him and a guitar. So he would own these theaters and people would just stand up after every song he sang. So it's cool you guys gave him a shout out. It was very cool of y'all to all come to Viro. I mean, not only for that and the attention you brought to our event, but, you know, the money you guys have given back to us too as well from the T-shirts and all printed and things.

It's amazing, man. So I really, I really can't thank you guys enough for that. Not just myself, but all of us involved. Well, look, it's very cool. We're not going anywhere, obviously. We're glad we had you back on. I think this first time you've been on the show since, like, our fucking monumental first appearance that you had. Yeah, man.

It's pretty monumental first appearance. It's kind of hard to follow that first time. You know, you guys set me up pretty good early on. Do you have any more stories that are going to make it up to People Magazine and like the New York Times front cover page and have Phil Mickelson answer questions at the next master's media day? I know, right? No, man, I don't really, I don't know I've got any great ones for you right now.

We'll bring them out. Hey, so today we were talking earlier and we were trying to figure out how to do the show and you're like, hey, I got to write from like 10 to 3. like what is that process like are you just like right because like we're like nine to five or or most people are nine to five they're just like I'm going to clock in do my job and then like clock out or whatever are you just like sitting there looking out a window like I'm going to think about songs now but how does the process work okay that's a great question um and you just never know how it's going to work for me like a lot of times late at night if I'm writing by myself I'll just

grab like next to me I have my guitar I'll just grab it or something just like play a melody or play something and then if it brings something to mind, I'll write about it. If there was something that someone said or did, I'll write about it. Like if it just is stuck in my mind this morning and what I've been doing lately, this is what's beautiful about the, you know, there's a lot of stuff. People I saw that, you know, that people are putting down the year 2020, like it's been a bad thing. And I think we learn a lot as we go.

And for me, I mean, this whole interactive Zoom thing, I'm able to, I've been writing songs like crazy with today. hey, I sat right here and wrote a song where the guy was down in Florida with his family and another girl here in Nashville. And we just had a melody, but we didn't have an idea. So we just kind of came up with an idea and then wrote the song. So you never know how it's going to happen. And a lot of times you can spend hours writing something that will never see the light of day, that never make a dime off of it or whatever.

But I think that's the less what makes it a chase is that, I mean, it's just like golf ready. that you can spend hours practicing and make it to a tour, make it somewhere. And you're not guaranteeing to ever win. You're not guaranteed to ever get a number one song just because you are there in the game. And I think that's the chase is that we all like everyday wake up being creatives to try to see what we can do to be more creative than we were yesterday. So are there any like, like you played that new jam like off your cell phone when we were down there.

You legit like set it underneath your guitar on the little. stand and you were like playing it off your cell phone like at that stage how you know like how close would something like that be to like the finished product i mean because you like legit the lyrics were so fresh you had to read them off your cell phone wasn't it about like your mom like your mom or being a son or something like that i remember like you were like making me cry i was eating like oh yeah yeah you were talking about uh there was a song about like my mom i didn't pray for me you know i wouldn't be who i am today yes i was like you embarrassed me i had to like walk away i'm like, everyone's sniffling.

I was like, this guy's an asshole. Like, I mean, standing up there at his foundation, raising a ton of money, thinking about how his mom. And like, I'm like, holy smokes, is it getting dusty in here? That song, that song's not out, right? No, man, it's not out. That's a good song, though. I'm glad it gave you the sniffles, bud.

It's a great song. Just that, I mean, what is, like, how different would something? Like, have you ever written something that in, five minutes is like that's just pretty much what the song became uh yeah some of them are like some of the best songs are like that you don't think about at all and then there's songs too where you can overthink it and um i mean dude going back i mean again to relate to golf i find that's what music's like it's like you know if you're out of the golf course trying so hard those are the rounds most of the time that like aren't even that good and it's the rounds that sneak up on you where you just

like, holy shit. Like, I wasn't, I wasn't thinking about it. I just hit the ball, went, you know. And that's kind of how I find music is for me, too. I align those two things together because music's the same way. I mean, you can do it alone. You can do it just for the fun of it, and you can do it for the fact that one day you might just surprise yourself without even thinking.

So, I don't know. That's pretty deep, isn't it? Like, we just, honestly, it's very fascinating to hear just different processes. is something that would be so foreign to us. Like, I can't even imagine. Like, you could give me 10 years to write a song, and I couldn't, I mean, I couldn't do it. Crazy.

No. I wouldn't know where to start. Also, I got to match, like, words with tone. I mean, it would be a nightmare. I would never be able to accomplish such a task. Also, the instrument that I played, which is very fitting to my voice, was I played the trombone.

For sure. For fourth, fifth grade band. So that's my music talent. It ended there. That's what I knew. It wasn't a fifth. It's like your voice tried to emulate what the noise. The trombone.

stuck there. Your voice is in that like tone of a trombone. Yes. And it only like has that much range too where it either can be like a low or somewhat high baritone. There's just nothing there for me. But I wish there was.

Maybe the highlight of our trip down there when we came down for the event is when you told Lurch behind the scenes that like Great line. Lurch was the biggest fan of Lurch is Lurch. No, no, there's something different. It was, what did you say? That sounds about right.

It was close. I had an absolute blast that weekend, man. I had probably too much to drink that weekend. I had a lot to drink. But I made the most of it. And that's an awesome weekend. That's the time with that guy Larry Fleet, though. Like, he took over the room.

His voice is incredible. Listen to him, like, sing is amazing. And then I just saw that he came out with a new, music video, I think, of how I found God or something like that the other day. And I actually saw that, put it on my iPhone and took a quick jog to it. He makes a quick mention of barstool in it as well. Yeah. He says barstool.

Yeah. I was like, we should incorporate that in one of our promos or something like that. Barstool like as an actual store? Like as an actual store. As an actual store. I was like, well, I mean, what the, I didn't know. How it come out? I think that would put that in our pro.

Like Larry Fleet sat in a couple of barsuits from time. So I think that's probably more, you know, the word he was using for sure. Yeah, 100%. Next door is the hub for everything happening in your neighborhood. Everyone is verified. So your conversation stay private between you and your neighbors. It's available in every U.S. neighborhood. There's so many ways our neighbors can help us out.

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You were talking some shit about playing some playing, you know? And so I was honestly looking forward to it. And then, you know, this all came about. So we're going to have to make it happen again. You guys. So we got to kind of hash this out. We've been, you and I are going back and forth big time. We were saying, hey, we're going to come out to Nashville.

I think you had like some little buddies golf weekend trip planned. We are maybe going to become a part of it. I think that on this very show over the last couple weeks, maybe months, that we've got to incorporate Lurch versus Frankie as well because they're going to murder each other. So we might as well settle on the golf course. So I think we could really have something. where, like, you versus me and Frank, like, we could have a serious thing going. We just got to figure out the details.

But I want to, you know, I saw some stuff from Jake Owen out of the Barstow Classic, and I want to take you down. Yeah. I mean, it'd be fun, man. I will say that. I like to talk a little smack, but I'd say it'd be pretty good. My golf game is so not good, man. Are you playing at all?

No, I haven't played since Pebble Beach. And when I played at Pebble Beach, I was lucky to play it there because, you know, I broke my wrist, like, uh, I don't know, it was like four or five months ago. So I didn't think I was going to be able to play. And we had a really good time. And I played all right, but I hadn't played since. So I'm ready, man, ready to take you on.

I got some new oversized irons. Went from my blades, took the blades out of the bag while I was out there at Pebble, put these, like, big-ass oversized iron. Come on. That's the way to do it. I played blades my whole life. Okay. Yeah.

full life, number one, because I just love the look of a good blade. But I just always felt like if I was hitting a good or I could play well, that's the thing to play with. And never really ventured into a larger club head. And now I realize how stupid I was for like the last 15 years. It's too easy to not. Not that golf is easy. I'm just saying you're dumb to not take it iron.

I think that it's pretty forgiving, especially for the kind of golf I play, you know, like once or twice every month. Totally great. I think they screwed up the marketing on that too because so the blades were way sexier. The only problem, like they give you this big head for the iron, then they call them game improvement irons. It's like, I don't want to, I want something with a better name than that. But I'm in the same boat.

I use whatever, game improvement irons. Riggs, you should definitely be using game improvement irons. I fucking game improved you last time we played. Your game is solid right now, I will say. for the seven handicapped with all the practice you're getting, you're tough to be right now. I mean, he's taking a sabbatical at Pyner's. Yeah.

It's so easy to get good at golf. It was bull. Like, we were playing Piner's and he knew every green like he had, you know, like he had a little pen and paper and had a little documentation like Bryson would have. So you're a seven handicap right now? I'm going down quick. I'm going down towards, I'm trending towards like a five now. I, uh, yeah.

I mean, I'm Mr. 82. People know that. like Lurch knows. Like I, yeah, occasionally I'll post something like 77 or like an 87 or occasionally, when I'm playing badly, like I shot fall.

I think America. I think America is like Mr. 82 though. I shoot 82 all the time. I just shoot 82 all the time. So. That's not bad. No,

but I'm getting down there. I mean, I'm starting to play pretty well. I do think like we got fitted. We did this whole title list fitting like two years ago where we did, we each went up there for like an hour. They fit us with the irons, with the woods,

with everything and like they fit me for AP2s and I remember walking out of there being like I don't know if I'm good enough iron player to be playing like AP2s and so I've had them in there ever since and like they feel good and all that but I wonder if I had something that was a little meteor like you're getting like would I be way better uh well no I mean I I think an AP2 is like probably I mean I don't know the titles would say this but I think AP2 is like a bit of a it's not an oversized iron but it's not like small by any means I don't yeah Yeah, I think you're probably right. I also have the TMBs in my like longer irons.

Those things are sexy. Those things, they got a little meat to them. This is how messed up I am like with golf clubs. I think it was like engraved to me from like a time I was a kid. My dad always made me work like my ass off. If I wanted a new driver, a three wood or a new set of wedges. My dad's like, all right, you're going to get the money and buy it yourself. and so I used to like appreciate so much earning to get some irons and then it was weird like once

I quit golf and became a musician like everyone gave me free golf clubs so my whole so my whole life of playing wishing somebody would give me a free like anything like a like a driver a wedge or something like once I turned like started playing music I would get that stuff for free and it's funny because my dad man I'll go home like my dad will hold it all my shit. shit, dude. And I'll go home and like office or whatever. He's got every, every iron known to man. So, yeah, man, I got, we're always tinkering, tinkering with stuff. But I did spend my hard-earned money, I guess it was about six months ago on one of those new sets of those Tiger Woods Taylor Made blades. So they're pretty sexy. I'll give it to them.

Dude, I might need to try some of those. I actually never, I never played one of the Nike clubs back in the day when they were still making them and Tiger was rocking them, which in hindsight is very surprising because that's all we do is worship Tiger. Dude, I had a Sasquatch driver. It was an abomination. Yeah. It was an absolute abomination. The square one?

There was a square yellow back and every time they made contact, it was like, ding! And you're like, I don't know if I'm hitting this wrong or when Tiger, like, goes out there and hits the clubs. It's just not that club. They just spray paint stuff on it. Like, all I know is like, this sounds horrific. Like people would like look at you being like, holy shit. Like what's going on over there?

Like, I don't know. I'm just swinging the golf club. It was bad. Probably the worst club I ever had. Yeah. Dude, those things, those are hideous. But again, Tiger had them. So everybody had them.

I did get, Jake, they, the Taylor Mae guy sent me one of his new SIM drivers. And it is. Dude, it sounds like, I don't know. It sounds like it's coming off like a really powerful cloud that like explodes the second you hit it. you're kind of, even when you hit a shitty one, I look around in the range. I'm like, did you guys hear that?

Like, that was me. I made that stuff. Dude, wasn't there, weren't there rumors that Tiger towards the end of his, like, Nike club using career was, like, using other irons or drivers and they were putting, like, Nike logos on them and making them look. Like, there was, like, always, like, there was always, like, there was always the thought that he wasn't using, like, exactly what was, like, you know, they, maybe it had had the Nike logo on, but it was completely specked up the way that he wanted.

He's, like, no, like, we're going to cut this from scratch. This is not the type of club. You just, you just go to the Nike. You know, at Dix and you take a Nike driver off the rack. We're going to make this the way I want it. Yeah, I would love to know the validity of that because I heard those rumors too. We're like, no, no, no. Like, yeah, he's playing Nike clubs, but that's just a titleist club with a Nike logo on it.

They should say that about his golf ball all the time too. He'd be like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go buy the Nike golf ball. And they'd be like, you'd think that's what Tiger uses. Exactly. What level would you have to go up the organization to find that out? Well, he for sure doesn't use the Nike ball that you bought at the store. Like he used whatever specs were whatever specs he wanted and they threw a Nike symbol on there. You don't believe that.

You're insane. I don't know. But no, but I'm saying like what level of Nike would you have to talk to? Oh. Might be Phil Knight. It might be Phil Knight. Like, yeah, that's not our product. It's also the only name we know at Nike.

Like that famous chip shot that Tiger Woods hits on the 16th of the Masters where the Nike ball rolls in. Oh, that one. Oh, yeah. Wait. Talk about it. What about that that was just a title's ProV-1? What about that lag putt on 18? What if that just,

my point is, what if it came out that that was just a ProV-1? Things would be different. There would be a lot of backlash for Nike, but I think at some point we'd all be like, you know what, that makes a little bit more sense that he was hitting the best ball at the time

and Tiger, the best golfer that we've ever witnessed, a God amongst men, wasn't using a Nike golf ball. I'd be like, okay, I see that. Yeah, I just like, like to know. Jake, I got a question. All right. With your, with the whole Phil story that came out and everything. Yeah. Like, what did like, did Phil ever say anything to you about it? Yeah. I'm glad you

ask that question because people ask me all the time and they come to my meet and greets and they'll be like, look, dude, I didn't even really know much about your music or anything like that. And they're like, but man, I heard that interview and I mean, I thought you were funny. I had to come out and check it out. So everybody always asked me about Bill, and I cannot credit that guy enough, man, because I'll be honest. Like, when we were just chatting like guys do, like I didn't think of the, like, how far and wide that story would travel that quickly in the way that number one, I thought about, well, shoot, I hope I didn't out, like, Jordan and Annie's wedding and make it look like that. It was this idiot saying, talking shit to Phil Mickelson. It was more of a funny thing. And I think people saw that the way you guys presented it.

But Bill couldn't have been cooler about it. And he actually told me, he's like, that upped my street cred to a whole new level, thanks to that. So he's the coolest guy. And for a guy like him, he's so funny. He's got such a sense of humor anyways, as you see through his social media accounts, that I think it was pretty cool the way it all went down. But we have to, I'm definitely, I've been throwing some jabs here and there, though.

You know, because I see that they're talking about redoing that match again, right, with him and Tiger. And then I don't know if they're going to add a couple people or not, but I don't see why I shouldn't be there as like somewhat of like a, you know, just an analyst or something about what's going down, you know, making sure that they're not, you know, it's not too easy here for these guys. Yeah, you got it. You're like, you're like, you got to get on that short list. And as the analyst, you'd be like, yeah, I remember when Phil fucking stole my money basically playing that bullshit match against Tiger? last day, be like, what the hell is this guy talking about? But it is cool. Like he, because you, you don't, like, with those types of stories, that could have easily

just been buried in our podcast. And like, we would have all thought it was awesome and like, been like, yeah, just didn't catch fire. Like, you never know. And, like, nobody hears it outside of the people listen to our show. And then all of a sudden you wake up and like, I mean, some of the headlines were like, you know, like rude country star roasted by Phil Michaels in it. It's just like, what the fuck?

Yeah, there was a bunch. I mean, there was a bunch of people that were just, yeah, exactly like belligerent drunk country singer nobody's heard of uh out the greatest golfer one of the greatest golfers of all the time but it was really i think it was great because phil saw the humor in it and he saw like that it was funny and so he played along with it and still does actually like i don't know if you saw when he posted uh on instagram like the one year anniversary of all of him standing in front of all of that cash and he was like, he said,

yo, Tiger, like this just reminds me and blah, blah, blah. He goes, I still have all this money, except for $100,

Jake Owen has that. That's what I was like, that's the kind of guy is, man, he's funny. So I'm glad, man, people in this,

I don't know, I've been, like, because of the 2020 thing, we talked about that earlier, uh, people are too freaking sensitive, man.

And I like that people just play along with shit. And they don't, you know, you can't take stuff too, seriously. I mean, you told the story. Like, what, like, anyone writing, like, belligerently drunk guy goes up to film Nixon, like, you told the story.

Like, you wouldn't, if it was in, like, any bad taste or, or you did the wrong thing, like, you wouldn't have, like, told the story on a podcast. And, like, we wouldn't have promoted, you know what I mean? Like, it's a funny thing that happened. And obviously, um, you have to take it that way. It's crazy that anyone would take that the wrong way. It's one of the best stories I've ever heard. Oh, well, man, I just, like, I love making people.

I like people like, like, having fun, like not taking life so seriously because, as we all know, with stuff what's happening right now, like, you just never know, like, about life. So while you're here, you might as well have fun with people and make the most of it. And try to do that, man. Speaking of having fun, how's our guy Parsons and his hot wife doing? Great question. I think he's doing all right.

He's got those three boys, you know, they're all pent up in a house together. But he does, right? His wife's very beautiful Sandra. She's a very sweet angel of a woman. He definitely outkicked his coverage, is what my father would say. For sure. He's doing good, and knowing that you guys brought him up on this is going to make his day. So I'm glad you asked about him.

He's great. One of the most hilarious moments ever when we first saw his wife come to the, what was the name of the restaurant? Bobbies? Yeah, was it Bobby's? By the way, how about that French dip? Frank, what did you want to do that? Chicken kick.

Cicidia for Frank. I'm the only one that chicken case You fucked up, Frankie. What a fucking idiot. They got a tray full of French tips because Jake Owen at his favorite hometown restaurant was like, everybody get the French tip.

And Frankie's like, I'll take a chicken cassidia, please. It's one of the worst moments of my life, actually. And second of all, Parsons comes over and he's like, look at his wife standing right there. And he just taps me on the show.

He's like, look at my wife. Look at her. And I'm like, what? He's like, I have three sons. I made that. I made. Three sons. Like three sons came out of me.

I'm like, fucking right, Parsons. And we're like hitting each other in the chest. He's like, I'm a man that produces sons. I'm like, hell yeah, bro. So I'm sure he's doing fine in this quarantine. Just a bunch of testosterone in that house. It's probably like a freaking like reality TV show you could film in the Parsons house. This year at Pebble Beach, man.

We always give Parsons a hard time because for like every year we go out there, Thanks to my friends, my good friends at Puma, Cobra. I played Cobra irons and worn the Puma stuff forever. And my buddy Ben always hooks us up. And anyways, we were making fun of Parsons because everywhere Parsons goes, man, because he gets in that loop because he helps us out of our charity. We just love him. We give him shit.

But the whole thing for the week was Parsons got his Puma on. Parsons got his piss everywhere we went, dude. He had a hat on. shirt on, overcoat, on, pants on, shoes on, socks on. Everything was pooha, man. It was awesome. Next time you talk to Parsons, you just ask me, say, hey, Parsons, you got that Puma on?

Hey, by the way, man, I got my hat right here. That is so, it's a great lip. Oh, yeah, we got those. Great lip. Dude, I was dying. I fucking didn't know that was just like, what is it, like a standard imperial hat? Yeah, it's just an imperial hat, yeah. I tried to do this sweet thing.

I got a bunch of tweets. I finally posted our video of, like, me and Lurge playing the golf course down there. And everyone's like, what's that sweet logo on your hat? And I was like, I'm going to plug Jake O' and his foundation. And I was like, it's from here. And you're just like, that's just like, that's literally just Imperial. They have like a basic hat logo. That's not like my logo.

Yeah, no, they had a, they just had this one on their deal. And I thought for the tournament it would be cool to get everybody. everybody a hat like that. So the people, shout out to people at Imperial, too, because they make a classic hat. It's pretty sweet. So thanks for that. Oh, yeah. No, they make. The Spisers in the game from Imperial, that's for sure. Yeah. You. It's big freak head he has to wear a lot. My head doesn't look great in the hat. What is this that our producer, Jake, just sent us that you finished third in the whole and one contest for at Pebble Beach. It looks like you were behind Aaron Rogers and Harris Martin. What is that? Well, I don't know.

but you're saying Jake sent you that? That's your guy that does research because if he did, I mean, he'll see that I won that bitch. Whoa! All right. He said, oh, all right. To Jake's offense, he says, or he won? You either got, he either got Deadlast or he won.

He is correct on that. That's kind of the guy I am. I'm either going to finish Deadlast or what. So what is this contest? Well, every year and the people out at Pevel Beach in the Monterey Peninsula Foundation to put that on. Steve, John, everybody out there. S.J. That guy's the man.

Great guy. Great organization out there. And they team up with a company each year to give away a million dollars to charity, anyone's choice of charity, if you make a whole and one. And they usually done it on number seven out there at Pebble Beach, but this year they moved it over to the last couple years. They moved it to 17 at Pebble. And so they moved this T-Box up. and kind of make it a TV event, put it on live TV,

and everybody who's in the tournament. And yes, from Aaron Rogers to Ray Romano to, you name it. And to be honest, like, when you get all those guys out there, I know everybody's, like, drinking cocktails, that it's fun or whatever. I don't care who you are. I'm just going to be honest. Like, I want to win. I'm not there to just, like, bullshit.

You know what I'm saying? And so everybody I can tell, like, the kids up there, they act like they're nonchalant about it. But when I step up there, like, I'm nervous, man. So I don't know how everybody else feels, but I'm nervous as hell, even though I want to win. I'm nervous. So it was about like a pitching wedge shot.

And I hit the first one pretty good. My brother told me he's like aiming at that pole. There was like a like a radio tower behind it. And I aimed at the pole, hit it right around my brother told me to. And it hit and spun about three feet. I made it into the second round. And it was me and Aaron Rogers and Harris Barton, great guy. He used to play for the 49ers, as we all know,

I think like five times Super Bowl champion. And I hit it inside, man. I think what I won 100 grand for my charity by $100,000. 100 grand. So yeah, it was pretty cool. So yeah, so you had a qualifying distance of 4 feet, 4 inches and a final distance of 6 feet 4 inches. Rogers had 19 feet 11 inches.

That's just, I mean, that's tight, man. That's hitting them tight. It's pretty cool, man. It's been really amazing over the years, like just the stories of being able to be out there. And that tournament in particular has been something that's been really, really special. I know that I mentioned to Riggs long before I went this year. That's quite a ring. This is my nanny and granddad, man.

An 80-year-old man with that ring? What is that? Hey, man, hold on one second. Hello? That's an amazing ring. He can't not operate his phone. Granddad, I can't hear you. What did you say?

I said, somebody told me it was going to freeze up there tonight. Yes, sir. It's probably going to get pretty cold. I saw you calling, Granddad. I'm in the middle of kind of an interview right now. Can I call you right back right when I'm finished? I'll call you right back. Yes, sir.

Bye-bye. Oh, man. That's great. My granddad, my grandmom, they've been married. They just had their 70th wedding anniversary. My granddad right there, he's 96, and my grandma is 95. So, sorry. Does he drink ice tea?

Does he just sip on tea? Now, I think he's calling me back now. I think you got to answer that. He got to answer. He's worried about a freezing. Yeah, it's going to be cold, dude. He cares. Hello.

You know, my dad's your bad mistake. That's all right. We've got played him. All right, granddad. I'll call you back. Love you. That's terrific. That guy, he sounds like the nicest guy ever.

Shut up to the greatest man of all time. That's a good guy right there. Lovely family moment. He is the coolest guy ever. You know, we all are lucky to say that we've been able to spend time around our grandparents and stuff. And I'll just say this real quickly, not to segue into this or tell myself, this is all about my granddad. This is what's so cool is he, he's 96 years old. He and my grandmother, as I told you, they've been married for.

70 years. He was going to school in Lexington, Kentucky, University of Kentucky. His buddy, they said, this is in like the 40s. He said hitchhiking was normal then, and they hopped in the back of this guy's truck and rode as far as they could to Mumfordville, Kentucky. And he got out in Mumfordville. And he saw my grandmother, who at the time wasn't my grandmother. He just saw her and said she was beautiful. And he got back to school. He'd taken a picture of the house she walked into, which nowadays would seem pretty creepy, right? But he got back and he started writing her letters and he would put the picture of the house

and then write Mumford Bill Kentucky on it. And they became ten pals and they've been married now for 70 years. Come on. Yeah, that's just the notebook. Yeah, that is. Basically, right? And so he's just a great man.

And anytime he calls, I got to take that call. Sorry, boys. I mean, that's kind of just an old school DM. You know? You know where they are. You send a nice letter. You know, that's just the DMs. He just slid in via postage that arrived two weeks later.

Hell yeah. And my granddad's a gangster by golfer, man. He's still, he's 96. He still shoots like, I'm not kidding, he'll shoot like 83, 84. What are you talking about? The best golfer. He's the best golfer. Come on.

Come on, dude. Shut up, bro. He's 96 years old. He shoots at 83. Hey, I, you're 96-year-old granddad. dad would dust me on the golf course. Well, I mean, my granddad's going to play from, like, the up. Whatever.

Whatever. It's still okay. He shoots it. I bet he breaks. He breaks 90 for sure 90% of the time he plays. And he's still, how many, how many 96-year-old gangsters, you know, carry a one-iron? What? Zero.

Just stepping up there hitting a stinger. I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to tell you this. You're 96-year-old granddad steps up there with a one-iron and rips like a little stinger down there. I'm going to quit. I'm going to turn around and get off the course. And he's got that smooth, like, grandpa tempo, too. So it's pretty gangster.

Brian? That's the ultimate match is me versus the granddad and me versus that eight-year-old out in Hawaii. We all play from the same short yardage. And I guarantee I come in last. Hey, this is something you'll appreciate. Speaking of my granddad, he said to me, I've been very fortunate, and I don't talk about this a lot because they say,

you know, you're not, don't talk about it too much about having. the opportunity to play at Augusta National. And I played there, and it's been amazing, but one thing I will say, which I think is proud to say, is that on one of my opportunities I was able to play there, I was able to bring a guest. And I thought in my life, I thought, holy cow, what would it be like to be able to take my granddad, who's loved golf, his whole life, to Augusta National? And I called my granddad, and they told me the member that was taking me, said, you know what, we'll be able to accommodate him if we need to get him a golf cart heker and they were so accommodating we're going to do everything they could for him and my granddad and i knew it killed him but number one he would never leave my

grandmother by herself you know and so that was one reason and number two he's like you know what i just don't want to hold you all up i would never want to do that and so i'm going to pass and that was like a couple years ago and then this year he did tell me he said i'll be honest with you one of my biggest regrets. A life is never is never taking you up on that. Oh, I know, right? Oh,

man. I'm hoping maybe one day again, we might have that opportunity. Man, that story was like, I was going to have to step away. I'm like, man,

if you tell me right now, he stepped up to the first T and like rope going down the fairway, I'm going to lose it. And then it's like, one of his biggest regrets. I know, right?

It's such a turn real quick, but very cute that he wouldn't leave the grandmother. And that's adorable. That's just, that's, that's a man putting other people's, you know, their experiences ahead of himself, right? Like, that's the most selfless thing you can do is like, be like, no, like, it's your, it's your moment. Go there. I'm going to need to take a cart. Yeah, how many people, how many guys in life?

No one. Ever asked to play Augustin, ask him. No, I'm going to hang back with the wife. I never, I never leave my wife. Like, what are you talking about? Jeez. You have to be so in tune with everything to be able to do that. Like, I could never do that.

Dude, your grandparents need to be. He's so aware of what's around you to say no to August. Your grandparents need to be a hallmark commercial. Yeah, they're, they're pretty amazing, man. That might be the story that gets back or out of this podcast is now his grandparents have a hallmark deal. God. Just what a bunch.

That's just so sweet. I don't know. That was. Yeah, you know, I like to make you guys feel warm and fuzzy, you know. I guess that's how, like, if that's how your, your grandson becomes, like, a dreamy country music star. It's like, he's just bred from this, like, perfect relationship. I mean, I never heard anything like that in my life.

70th wedding anniversary? Yeah, it's, I actually, my new song, thankfully, number one is called Homemade. And a great song. Thanks, man. I made a video for it. And it's their love story. There's like a 13 minute long version on YouTube that we made.

And it's their story of what I just told you. And it's cool because I did a podcast last year and had them on as my guest, tell their own story. So I just took the. audio of my granddad telling the story and I um I put it over the actual video so if anybody cares to check it out out there they can uh it's a pretty it's pretty neat man so anyway dude I'm pretty sure home I know we're on a golf podcast not like a love podcast buddy everybody needs love right now podcast titles for play you know we start somewhere we get excited we're talking about something

else we the hell know man I think homemade was also one of the songs you were reading off your great too charity of that i'm pretty sure may have been at that weekend buddy dude i'm gonna i know i'm gonna go watch that 13 minute youtube clip and just like ball my eyes out later like sometimes you just need a good cry right frankly oh for sure dude it's so weird and like whatever i don't want to like suck your dick on the podcast but like we meet a lot of people we meet a lot of people it's a video it's just a video chat it's like you know we meet a lot of people like tiger woods we fist bumped them the whole thing and like Like you get to watch them on there, but like we don't really know Tiger Woods.

Like we know you on such a personal level now. And when I'm in the car and your song pops up and it's a number one hit and like I'm jamming out to it, it's the weirdest feeling ever because I feel like you hear your voice. I'm like, oh, like we spend a night drinking with this guy and like go to his favorite restaurant. And like, Frankie ordered the chicken cassidia with that guy. We get to like hear him sing songs. Like that's like like I was I was actually going to go to Jones Beach. And I will when you guys reschedule, but on your concert coming up in Long Island.

I'm just going to like go watch you sing to a massive stadium. It's like the weirdest, most craziest moment that I've had meeting people at Barcelona is like actually turning on the radio, not even selecting the song and being like, oh shit, there's fucking Jake Owen, man. He's doing the damn thing. And I'm bopping my head and my girlfriend's singing it and we're blasting it driving down like a road down to the beach in Long Island. It's like the craziest thing, man.

Like, does that ever like, like, are you ever in the car and your song comes on and it's just like, whoa, like what is going on? Yeah, man, all the time. I mean, I really, I'm not. And I say this like, I mean, I'm proud of what I've done in my life and stuff, but I'm not anywhere in any, there's so many people I admire because I'm like, that guy is so good or like they blow my mind. There's nothing that that I'm not that great at anything that I really do, man.

I feel like I've been really fortunate in my life to get to this point. And I'm just thankful really for it. But yeah, it blows my mind when I hear my song on the radio because it's crazy. It's cool. It's like I get to raise my kids. and have a beautiful partner in life like Erica, and all because I freaking sing songs and play guitar. And I remember when I did that in college,

like, and quit and moved to Nashville, my parents thought, like, and everyone thought they were like, okay, this guy, like, good luck for it. And I kind of in the same way. I mean, I didn't know that it would ever happen. I just thought, hoped it would and worked hard for it. But to hear that song on the radio now, no matter if it's this one or anyone I've had,

it's amazing man and don't tell me that like like those guys out there on tour either that like you know they go from playing you know like well it's playing in bars or do those guys going from playing like web dot com events and stuff to make it to the big time tour out there every time they see it up like don't get to go like this is badass and that's kind of how I feel I feel like I made it from the bars was like the you know where you're paying your dues and learning how to entertain and and and then I finally made it to like the big leagues man and when you hear your song on the radio like that, and especially when it goes number one, it's a lot like winning a tournament or something because every week, every label,

every artist, they're like vying to get that top spot. And when you see your name at the top and you hear it on the radio and your mom hears it on the radio or just the people that love you and care about, thanks for what you said, Frankie. It's cool, man. So, yeah, that was, it's a big deal. And, like, you alluded to, like, golf and stuff. I mean, we had Max Homa on here and he was saying, like, at golf tournaments, he's thinking about the next time he meets Tiger Woods what he's going to say,

like how he's going to react. He knew that in the back of his mind, like, oh, my God, like I'm in a position right now that Tiger Woods is going to come up to me and probably congratulate me on my first win. Like, what do I, so it is, it's true. It's like there's definitely all these moments, no matter what part of, you know, being a celebrity or being a, uh, in movies or being a pro athlete.

Like you definitely do have that like, oh shit moment where it's like, I think everyone does. Like I think even like Derek Jeter in his 3,000 hit game was probably like, man how the fuck did i get up here like as i was walking up to the batters box you know i mean i don't think you can ever remove yourself from that because then you're just like a robot yeah man and you know what i relate this back to something i heard you guys say on a great podcast when y'all were talking to uh the shackleford right yeah that old man you said something frankie like you guys like the way y'all handled it and and uh it was great and and you know to his credit too man the guy

spent a lot of years. I mean a great, you know, analyst, use that word again. But you said something, you're like, man, like, dude, we're just guys like love golf. You said something about that. You're like, you're going to blame us for being the guy that, like, just would give anything to fist bump Tiger Woods. And when other people see that, they're like, holy cow, I could be that guy, too. You know, when you said that, dude, it, like resonated with me because I'll never forget when I was in the front row of a concert with one of my best friends, Marty Fish, who I grew up with who I grew up with, played professional tennis. He turned pro like 15 or 16, which was nothing like my 15 or 16 year old life. So my best friend's like off being a star and making money and I'm like just a normal 15 year old kid. And he he made some money and got us front row seats to a Tim McGraw concert.

And I love country music. And I just remember being front row that Tim McGraw concert. And Tim McGraw came and like fist bumped us. Right. And I never felt for this sounds dumb, man, but I like I never forgot that feeling of like Tim McGraw like acknowledging us and like this pumping us. And all these years later, having been out on tour with Tim McGrath and I've become with them and stuff, like, I still think that moment back then was like so cool. And I still do now. So, man, it's, it's, that's what life's about, dude. Believe in it. Put yourself in places and, and, and, and, and appreciate it. So, man, like, your songs, too, are great golf course songs. Like, you make fantastic golf course songs. Like, I'm looking to you, like, Bearfoot Bluegey

Night has a 142 million streams on on Spotify. That's crazy. It's, it's been pretty cool, man. That was my, that took me, that was my first number one song and I was seven years into my career before I had a number one.

A lot of people don't know that, but like, they think like, oh, you just hit it and hit it big. I was lucky at that point to even have a record deal. Because it's kind of like you have a few bad seasons or something, or bad season in the NFL or something.

or anywhere and you just get cut or you know you got to go back and find the new place and I'm surprised that I kind of trudged along and that was the first number one I had it kind of like kind of went from there so it's cool man looking back looking back when you take seven years to write a song that finally catches on do you look back on the first seven years and be like oh I was like I was almost there but now looking back now I know what it takes to succeed like I know what goes into making like a number one record. I know like what labels like. I know like the certain type of things that catch people's ear.

Like do you look back and be like I was right there, but I was missing something? Or like what changed that seventh year with that song? Like what, what hit? Dude, honestly, I think it's funny because in the music business,

people will always tell you that, man, you just get that one big song, that one big song and everything will change. And you're like, yeah, okay well where is that song like what is that song you just don't know when it's going to be right and uh so i had written 99% of my own music um on both my first two albums so my third new album my third album at the time which was in 2012 um was the bearful bluging night and i found that

song a friend of mine wrote it i just loved it and i sang it and it was the first song i'd ever released that i did not write and it went number one and it kind of because of that number one the momentum of people being excited, they're like, dang, this is like, this guy, Jake, like I'd been out for seven years. There was a lot of people who didn't know who I was. Dude, I've been out for 15 years. And thanks to you guys,

like there was a lot of people who didn't know who I was. And thanks to y'all, like a lot of people do now. And so I'm still every day, like, is for me a grind. And I think it's not a grind because I feel like I have to do it. It's a grind because I love it. And I think for anybody that loves what they do, like you just wake up every day and try to be better than you were yesterday and take them, you know, roll with the flow.

Yeah, that's awesome. This has been the uplifting podcast. I think people need it this time, man. We're all locked inside our rooms. Trent hasn't seen the sun in about 42 days. And it's like we're just talking about good vibes and like working at like your craft. Like I mean, I mean, I'm sure that there's probably some aspiring musicians listening to this podcast right now.

And I'm sure like you could give them like the tip that like, this is probably the best time to be working on your craft, right? Like, you have nothing else going on in your life. Like, even me, I'm playing the drums every day. Like, I'm just working at, like, things that I wouldn't be working at if I was, like, just working in my office or whatever. Like, you can just pick up a guitar right now and play for hours and no one's going to bother you because you're supposed to be there.

Yeah, man. Yeah, it's the truth, dude. I think, uh, we all could focus probably, and again, this isn't to be some uplifting, like, podcast. That's fine. We're all dudes. Like, we're all dudes. we're all like we all get into our routines we all do what we think we need to do like there's

little things in life you can incorporate i feel like i've done it throughout this time like being home like just little things that i don't usually do but it's like a new routine or a new something at it that just made me better and most people i've talked to that have been home throughout this have kind of feel the same way they're like man i'm kind of rejuvenated like i feel like i've learned a little bit more about me and other people so you know it's cool there it is it's also like you know like last time we had john it was some debauchery it was some like wild stories and then like now like we're having a little bit more uplifting like a little deeper and like as much as we like to clown around and all that like it is true like we're all trying to be better we're all trying to

like either be better at podcasting or better bloggers or growing our personalities or you're a musician or you're trying to sling some software like whatever it is you're trying to like build and improve and like that's just as important as like sometimes clowning around and making people laugh. So, I mean, it's cool. It's cool, too. Like, it's, for us, it's insane that we're able to be like your friend and talk about this stuff. That's crazy. That's crazy. Oh, dude, well, dude, likewise, man. I mean, uh, it's super cool to, you know, to do this kind of stuff with y'all and, uh, appreciate it, you guys introducing me to your audience out there because, uh, that's something that's been cool, man. What you, what are you laughing at,

Trent? Nothing. I think it's great. It's incredible. It's the first time, Trent smiles in a month. I know. I just like talking to you. I was going to bring up the Alabama Hannah song. That was one of my favorite things that you've done. I know we texted a little bit about it just like, you know, because I'm a big Bachelor fan. And now we've both been on the show. I was on there as the luggage guy. You were a musical act. We're both Bachelor stars. Wow, man. I didn't know you were such a Bachelor fan or Bachelor fan. Oh, yeah. He's like a number one. You had some catching up to do. You don't love it. He's, you know that he went in and,

And does he know that you went in and picked up the luggage? Have you seen this clip, Jake? I mean, I don't know how big of a fan he is of the show to even know what the luggage guy is. So there's a part in Bachelor or Bachelorette where like it's down to like the last like amount of people, four or five girls. And they're all sitting in a room and right, Trent, someone goes on a date or two people go on a date. Two girls will go on with Pylee, the bachelor. And a person actually walks into the room where the remaining girls are sitting and they'll take dramatically one of the pieces of luggage and walk. and walk out and like you know that person was sent home.

And Trent for years, Trent for years and years and years was like, make me the luggage guy. I don't want to be the bachelor. I don't want to be a producer of the show. I don't want to be the guy anything. I want to walk in in my outfit, my black shirt, my khaki pants. And grab the bag. I want to grab the bag.

So he fucking did it, man. They flew him out to Peru and he grabbed that luggage. And it was the number one viral moment of the Bachelor entire season. No way. It got millions of views. Like the producer of The Bachelor was like, oh no, Chris Harrison was like the Barstool Trent Luggage Guy effect when they saw that the ratings up like 20% that day. See, that's why, you're not, you got a girlfriend, you marry, like what's going on? I'm single.

So why don't they have you as the Bachelor? No, I don't want to. Dude, you'd be like the best bachelor ever because like you're just like the normal like everyday dude. You don't have a saying. like people need that more than they need this. I mean, come on. Totally, totally. And I get that.

And a lot of people have said that to me since the luggage got anything happened. We talk about it on this show. I don't want to be The Bachelor because what happens is you become the Bachelor and everybody loves you. And then as the season progresses, you make a ton of mistakes, which I would 100% do. And they end up hating you. But if you're just the luggage guy who flies down to Lima, Peru and pulls somebody's luggage and goes back home, everybody loves you.

Good point, man. Good point. Except for the girl whose luggage you pulled. She's cool with me. Her name's Natasha. And she, and we're dating. Yeah,

she respects the luggage guy profession and we're all good. All right. That's good to hear. I'm glad to hear that. I would love if you and Natasha started a little love story together. Oh, yeah. Fuller luggage and they're dating. It'd be great.

Well, Jake, look, man, this was really cool. It was really fun to catch up with you. As always, you delivered a great show that I did not expect. Yeah, we'll be expecting the pep talk, man. Dude, it's this, you know, it's boosting. People kind of need this.

They need to feel good right now. Let's go, man. Hell yeah. Congrats again on homemade, another fantastic jam. You got anything else to plug real quick, by the way? Man, no, dude, I don't really. I have my charity event I'm going to do again this year. We're about to announce that again.

So we're all, and this year we're doing multiple, multiple T-Times. morning and afternoon. So we're getting more and more people down there. So that would be cool. So yeah, thanks for letting me plug that, man. You guys have really helped us raise.

We raised about a million dollars almost this year for our foundation. So that was a huge in part to you guys. So thanks a lot. That's phenomenal. Hey, happy 70th wedding anniversary to your grandparents. Yeah. Shout out Brian and Jean.

Yeah. Brian and Gene. You're the man. We appreciate the time. And hopefully we'll catch up soon. Be safe. Yeah, man. you guys to work on that game, man.

We got that, we got to get that match coming. This was all nice and fun, but we're coming for that ass. Fives will change significantly. This was all nice and positive talk, but I'm coming for your ass, bitch. That's right. It's fucking right. You're going down.

Here you go. See you guys. See you. Thanks, Jake. All right.