Fore Play - Jeff McNeil: Talent Always Rises

Episode Date: April 21, 2020

Jeff McNeil (70:30) of the New York Mets joins the show. Yes, he’s an elite baseball player today, but he didn’t play on his high school team until his senior year. Golf was his passion. Often, it still is. We compare the baseball swing to the golf swing, get a great Will Ferrell story, and much more. In Headlines, the TOUR may be securing ONE MILLION test kits in an effort to restart. In From The Gallery, could we break Billy Casper’s opening round 106 in the 2005 Masters???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Are we trying out new stuff? It's quarantine week, question mark, six, seven, I don't know, nobody knows, but we're back. We're talking some golf. We got Jeff McNeil from the New York Mets is on the show. A big-time golf guy. It's very funny.

We had them for like a half hour, 25 minutes, something like that. And the beginning, you know, we talk a little baseball. and then it was very obvious. Everyone's like, yeah, no, no, like, yeah, he does play baseball. Let's just get over this fucking part and talk golf. All I want to do is talk golf. He's originally a golf guy in high school. He didn't even play baseball until his senior year.

And then he just played golf. He's on the golf team, tires to be on the PGA tour. And he's an absolute stick. He won the Pound Ridge qualifier, the Barstool Classic last year. So Jeff McNeal, great interview, good guy. Really good guy. Great guy. And talent just rises at the top.

Like, we had a quick, I don't know, conversation. around crazy parents, your kids got to do X, Y, and Z. I'm a huge proponent of kids playing as many sports as possible when they're young. And like, oh, no, my kid's only going to get the pros if he does all these training camps. He is the reason that that's just not the kids. Like, if you're only going to play baseball senior year, like talent just rises at the top. So power to him, plan it up.

I think he said after two weeks of playing baseball for like the first time in his life, he got a full-ride scholarship. Yeah. If you're talented at that point, like you said, it doesn't matter what you did to prepare. Some guys need the preparation more than others, but he's clearly just the most talented guy with a girthy stick in his hand. We also, we had him on,

and we had like a hard, you know, 12-20 cut off or something that he had to go. And seconds after we finished recording, he was just on SportsCenter. Yeah, with the same backdrop and everything. Yeah, I think that at the beginning of our interview, we make fun of the painting that's behind him, and then that painting was on SportsCenter and 20 minutes later.

It was cool. It was cool talking to them. We're trying to throw different things at people as much as we can. That's the beauty of golf is that it's very much relatable. It's very much played by a lot of different people, whether you're a movie star, whether you're a baseball star, whether you're an actual golf star, whoever the hell he are.

A lot of different folks play golf. So Jeff Ming-Neil, he's on. He'll be on to the end of the show for, like I said, about 25, 30 minutes. Squirrel, the squirrel, they call him. The squirrel. He also, I mean, he swung at a higher percentage of pitches last year than anyone else in the entire.

major leagues. He has no time for waiting. He doesn't want to wait. He doesn't spit on pitches. He just swings at baseballs. That's all he does. He lives to just swing at baseballs. We got a lot to get to. We got some good from the galleries. We've got the PGA tour more coming from when the PGA tour is going to restart. Obviously the Bowles Jordan documentary. We could talk a little Tiger versus Michael Jordan. Kepka. Brooks Kepka's got some quotes. He was on PMT last week and then he's got a bunch of other stuff. He's chatting about got into it. So we got a lot to get to. Title sponsor. We got a title sponsor.

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All right. PGA tour. So PGA Tour is, of course, hoping to start really in like less than two months, which feels the closer and closer we get to that, the more preposterous. It's not, I mean, what are you talking about? People went out of the beach in Florida and they're like going to just cut Florida out of the United States and ship it off into the Atlantic Ocean because the people were getting so fucking shame for that.

We're going to have a PGA Tour tournament. I don't know. Now, according to Ewan Murray of The Guardian, so the PGA Tour, they're hoping to secure up to a million coronavirus test tests. A million. Also, in that players and caddies outside the U.S. could receive travel exemption.

So the tour is obviously, obviously trying very hard to get golf back. I think last week I said, like, yeah, it's like a 60% chance. It's just every week we can. closer, it feels like the world has not changed. And like it's still, you can't go anywhere. Trent hasn't been outside. Well, not only- Healthy today though, Trent. That- I look what? Healthy. The gray is a nicer color. Kind of allows you to lighten up your face a little bit rather than the black. Thank you.

You're on the main living quarters. Yeah. When Robbie went back to Jersey, I moved all of my, I moved my, you know, my HQ out into the living room. So now I have more space. Yeah. You're not staring off into the window. watching people creepily walk down the street who aren't supposed to be outside. Now you really did. You moved your whole operation into the middle of that fucking apartment. I can't look out that window. I get distracted and then I stop paying attention to what I'm doing.

Back to what we were talking about, not only are things changing every day, but they're sort of getting worse, at least from a standpoint of can we put on a PJ tour event? Mid-June seems ridiculously too early. Dude, they're getting worse. People are still like, the number's still going up. I know New York's trying to do this whole thing. where it's like positive vibes, positive views where it passed the curve. Like we're descending down the mountain.

But like, and then other people like, that's just not true. Like there's millions of people that still haven't gotten tested and stuff like that. But here's the thing is that the world is starting to get scary. Like now there's protests and people in these, like, in states that don't like believe in it as much as other states are like, they're like going out there. Have you seen these videos of that lady trying to like run over that fucking nurse that was like stopping the protest being like, you get to work? Why don't I get to work? She's wearing like a whole American flag. flag jersey. It's going to start getting crazy. And I just can't imagine. The only reason I bring

that up is because I can't imagine professional sports organization wanting to be like at the center of that right now. Like why would you want to be like at the beginning of like a massive like why do you why does the PGA tour want the even the slightest chance of a, why am I? Controversy? Yeah, but like what's the word I, what's the word I just said? with the lady. What were the people doing in the streets? Protesting. I can do my brain as mashed potatoes, man. You don't want to be like the center of like a protest like when at the Kentucky Derby, all the horse people show up outside and it's a bad seat.

Like you're just like, why would you want to willingly do that when you know half the people may get upset or anger? All these people, they have family members that have died and they're all sick. They're on incubators and all this, they're on like all these things. Like, why would you want to go out and play a game right now in two months? ventilators, that we meant. Penalators, not incubators. Why would you want an incubator does give like oxygen, right, for babies, though?

To a small, to a small just-born baby. You know what it is? We delivered to a Winthrop hospital where I was born, and we went to the incubate, the incubator, I guess they call it, like the incubator unit. I don't know, that's the people that we gave the food to. It's on my mind. That's the hospital I was born, by the way. Shout out Winthrop.

I mean, I think, I just don't know why you would want to do that. I think just to capture like market share, you know, attract people to the game of golf, but then also do good. I mean, like, yeah, the, I don't know, percentage of people that are protesting, I mean, in all their studies, they probably found out that, you know, that's a much smaller percentage than people maybe that just want to enjoy it from their home and see something. And you talk about uplifting news.

But are you going to have a situation where, like, Frankie's saying, say they put on these golf tournaments and they're like, no fans. Nobody show up, don't even come near here. And then there's people like, but I love golf. And I don't think this is that big of a deal. So now I'm just going to show up and start banging on the doors. and then the PJ tour has to deal with that. Yeah, like, I mean, I get, right?

Like, the only consideration isn't do we want potential protests or not, right? It's like there's millions of dollars every week that's gone if they have to cancel turn it. It's sponsorship dollars. It's TV dollars. It's the sort of the opportunity cost lost. If you don't become the first sport back, but you have the capability and the past, like the chance to actually do it.

So, like, factoring all that in, yeah, it's, it's, it's, like no it's not the single most uh coronavirus sort of savvy thing to do in the war right like it is not this if if one far extreme was like do the best you could possibly do not to spread coronavirus then playing a pj a tour event isn't that right but it's like factoring every single thing in is the risk like so small at that point that it is worth it for us to you know get our millions of dollars for the next two months, potentially grow the footprint of golf because there's no other sports on. Be kind of build is this like the hope, the restart, the reopening, like golf's fucking back,

sports are back. We have something to gamble on. Like, that's a huge opportunity for them. And they have to consider all of that. So I'll say what I'm glad. I'm just glad I'm not somebody making those decisions. I know. That is like, we're dealing with an unprecedented situation.

And it is exactly what Riggs is saying. like you are you have the potential to be the first sport back and people will love that and they will tune in and they will watch but the flip side is we don't really know what the butt is and that's the scary part yeah yeah totally i mean like it's almost like a it's a presidential decision i mean that top guy makes the final pick you know like you've got the four of us in one room that are all that make their case you know to portnoy or whatever right and then it's his decision to be like we're doing this we're not doing this you know but you like all the factors that go in with that decision would be so interesting to know.

Yeah. And it's like I was thinking like they're trying to secure a million test kits. Like people are going to riot if they just hoard a million test kits to play golf. So that's at that, you know, you would you would have to say then like, oh no, we would only do that because we'll be at a point. Um, where like testing is so much more readily available that like us having a million isn't a problem. You're like, what the fuck you, it's like there. If you're a celebrity and you get tested, you get. shamed right now because it's like you're only supposed to be allowing the the normal people

to be like tested who have symptoms and all this, that. So that's in June. Like we're not, we're talking right now. Like, we're not going to be able to put on a barstool classic in June. They're going to put on a PJ Tor event. The protesting makes things so much more interesting and scary. Like before people, we were just like, all right, everybody stay inside and it'll be fine. Now it's like everybody stay inside, but there's a couple people who aren't going to and that throws everything off. Everything. And it could be protesting the other way. where it's like, I want to stay home and you guys are out there playing a game and you have a million testing kits. And like my grandfather couldn't get tested because we don't like have the ability to like, we're in New York and they said that he didn't have the synthes.

And now he's dead. But like Brooks Kevka can go out there and just get a test because like he just has to play a game for a living. I'm just seeing, I'm like seeing a devil's advocate. Like I don't, I don't want to. I want golf to come back. I want to watch it. I want to play it. I want everything to come back to reality.

But you have to like, you have to see the situation that like the world. quite literally in a different spot right now. We can't just snap our fingers and come back to reality here. You can't. You have to do a slow build. You have to. No, I think that was definitely,

to say they have a million tests or they're going to secure a million tests. It's like, maybe you should have said like, yeah, we've got, you know, three months of testing guaranteed for our tour. And then it becomes this vague number.

But when you say like a million, it's literally like, no, we have a million and you can't get one. You know, and that's like, I think that was maybe a miss with how they wrote that out. Maybe they should have.

It was reported by someone that. Right. That wasn't. If you were going to grab a million tests. I was going to talk yourself. I was like that wasn't. Just swimming in tests like. Like Jay Mottahan is in like the McDuck like room of gold.

He's just got tests everywhere. Like we're going to put on this tournament. Look at all these fucking tests. I might use two. Yeah. I'm a test myself twice. Tiger would be tested 25 times. I'm thinking two things up both nostrils.

in his earloaf, just like, whoa. Woo! We're back, man. It's a nightmare. Yeah. This is fun. You can't have that. So, yeah, I mean, June, again, feels early.

I hope I'm wrong because, like, I hope I'm wrong and everything else works out, right? Like, I don't hope I'm wrong and they restart, but then they restart to early and they fucking reignite the beginning of another global pandemic. But I hope I'm wrong in that, like, it is feasible. It works out. They come back. They're smart about it. And they can all of a sudden put on these tournaments.

But it would be, you know, golf, I think, would be okay without fans, more so than other sports, with the exception of the Masters and the Ryder Cup. Yeah, it's definitely the most, it's the most likely to come back with no problems, aside from all the backlash and all the bullshit that we just talked about. Like, you talk about hockey. It's not a hockey podcast, but I'm seeing these reports that, like, hockey may come back where it's just like they're going to jump into a playoffs in like July and August and there's just no reason to do that. I just don't know why they're going to rush through

something that's clearly just fake and like they're not going to have fans and they're going to try and push through a July and August playoff push with like not even seven game series. And it's just like everything about that is not the NHL. Everything about that's not what the team's years past have had to go through. So like you can't put it up against this year. Like it just doesn't make any sense why they have to do that. We've already canceled half teams had 16, 17 games left. Like, you've already said that that's not happening. Guys have been going on for personal records of like goals scored.

That's all done. Like, the season's already over. Like, why are we going to go back and do that? And then now they have to play until August and September and then start the season again in September and October. It's like you're ruining the next season. When's the draft going to be? Who's going to get the number one pick?

It's like, why are we trying to rush these things into existence when you can just say it's over and let's just start next year and hopefully this never happens again? I saw a tweet. I saw a tweet yesterday. I don't know if it was a reporter. I don't know how real it was, but I know that I saw that they're thinking about not having fans at the Ryder Cup.

And to go back to what you were talking about, Riggs, that is maybe the one event where if you're not going to have fans, then just delay it like a year. Yeah, because, right, I believe it was 9-11. They postponed the Ryder Cup one year. That's why when you go back historically, it was odd years,

and then all of a sudden it switched to like, or even years or whatever. And so it is one of those. we're like, do we wait two years anyways? Like just postpone it a year and then everything's postponed two years and it's fine. It's not like these. So I agree with that. I don't like I think our boy Sethwa released a statement or was asked an interview or something.

And he basically said like I honestly don't know if we can do the writer cut without fans. Like I he's like he said they're going to test out or or at least look into like virtual. Is that a possible? Can we do virtual? Like I guess they have a fucking. Giant screen. What? Hold on.

What the fuck does that mean? I don't know what that means. 10 million people. And then like you have like the Americans or internet, whatever. And then like they're attached to speaker phones. So when the puck goes in, the Zoom just the route. Yeah. Just like if you had a giant screen with a huge speaker and like and then a room of fucking us American fans.

And it just, ah. He's like, I don't know what that would be. Just have a bunch of iPads in the seats and like everyone's just a virtual face. Oh, that feels like a black mirror episode. That's terrifying. Big cat and part of my take came up with like an idea for the draft coming up where like, because no one's like able to boo Roger Goodell in his basement. And it's coming back the first year that like he's going to go like not booed.

And they were saying like they should join Zoom with 100 people. And then every person that also is in that Zoom gets 100 people. And like they were saying like if you do that math, like you can get a million people in there to all boo at the same time. Like it's just like multiplied by a million by 100. and like that is actually like hilarious if they had that on a huge like the driving board screen basically at these PGA tournaments and like everyone's just sitting there in their rooms like Trent sitting in his own phil like come on tiger but like imagine that the uh the Rory Patrick Reed battle a couple years ago with no fans like it's just like that's stupid as shit

they wouldn't be amped up right they wouldn't be shushing each other like it loses it loses all of that so now let's not act like uh I'm thinking of a gun going like birdie or like Eagle on the 15th and like a birdie on the 16th and there's just no fan noise. Like someone's making a Sunday charge and they go Eagle, Birdie or like almost missed a hole in one. There's just no noise. You literally hear a bird like me, me, me. It's like what the fuck? Let's not act like golf hasn't done weird things with fans recently.

We went to the President's Cup and they quite literally hired actors to root for the USA and the international team. And at that point, I would have rather seen virtual fans or. no fans at all to have literal actors sitting there being like, go, USA, go with accents. You know, the actions. How is that not vetted out? Like, just find somebody with no accent. And then maybe you have a claim. Dude, they didn't know they had the hard-hitting journalists of Trent and Frankie for

Barsford Sports. Fucking get in the bottom of the case. It was amazing. I didn't know who like the first president was. It was crazy. Last month or so, it's been a roller coaster. That's kind of what we're talking about right now. optimism, disappointment, all that stress and uncertainty.

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I wouldn't say consistently, but yeah, I mean. No. I don't think I do. I've got buddies that are kind of careless and they're like, you get them out because they, you know, they're not like super golf interested. But when you get them out, they're like, yeah,

I'll come have a couple beers and they just make it kind of a relaxed walk in the park. And those people do. But anybody like that to me sounds like a nightmare. If I were to smoke and play golf, I think I would end up crying by like the fourth hole. Maybe it relaxes you. Maybe it just chills you out. You don't care so much about the terrain or, you know,

bad score and you're just. I'd be a meltdown. I can't handle it. I get, I get, no, I can't handle, I get too high. It's just interesting that drinking is such a, it goes hand-in-hand with golfing so much. And then, you know, you just don't think about people who go out there and smoke, but it's, it's outdoors. So people definitely do it.

Yeah. Maybe it would help all of our rhythms. After we tried to start this podcast, it took 15 minutes because we all couldn't clap at the same time together. You know, maybe that would kind of all chill us out. No, I'd argue that was a Zoom issue. I don't know. That was pretty bad. I also would argue if you put, if you put four people in the same,

room and you just said okay we're going to clap on after one and you went three two one everybody's clap would be a little bit off be a fun social experiment especially if you're high right if people watch us try to do the clap before the show they probably thought we smoked before we did it Jake Bass is probably high as a fucking kite right now yeah Jake Bass's been hiding around his house trying to get high shit without his parents noticing he knows he's like full dead shirt We're all good. We're all good. Pretty sure I saw on his Insta story.

It was like a Grateful Dead post. So, yeah. Shocking. All right. What the hell were we talking about? Oh. Brooks Skepka. So like I said, he was on PMT.

That's some good quotes last week. And then he got last night, he posted this, you know, date night. And it was just a picture of some wine and steak and a little veggies with the girl. And he posted date night. And somebody. tried to just steak, shame him and wrote, meanwhile, people can't make their bills, but so nice, you have an expensive dinner. And then everybody, Scott Van Pelt quit back at the guy, and it was like, you're really

shaming the guy for having a steak. Brooks Kepka came over the top and said, what have you done to help big guy? Brooks Kepka has, of course, donated $100,000 to helping with the coronavirus situation. So it's just kind of a classic, you know, we've talked about it many times, but people getting shamed, people just looking to shame. Like this fucking guy, and luckily, like Scott Van Pelt made this point multiple times where he was like, dude, the time and like

the effort that you took sitting in your little home there, so like be upset at Brooks Kebka about this isn't saving any fucking lines. It's not doing anything. Like Brooks Kebka has made millions of dollars winning major championships and like when you have millions of dollars, you can like have a

steak and a nice bottle of wine in your home and that's not going to that's not killing anyone actually. It's fine. I agree with all that. I agree with everything. SDP, Scott Van Pelt, I agree with everything that he said. But like,

as big of an asshole as that guy is for saying that, people taking their time out to like be like, you're an idiot. What have you given back? Like, do we even give that guy the time of day is patently ridiculous? Like, that guy definitely was just at his house, bored and was just like,

oh, you're eating a steak while other people can't afford their bills. And then for that to turn into something where we now talk about it on a podcast, That guy's sitting at home like, I did my job. I did what I wanted to. I got Scott Van Pelt and Brooks Kepka to respond to me steak shaming it. I think with a lot of people, that's true. They are just looking for arrest. This guy, though, totally did a – he posted an apology tweet to Brooks.

Oh, wow. But see, that's the thing. He's like – I think he's important enough. Right. That's the problem. For him to be like, well, I've caused such a reaction. that I have to now apologize to the internet. Go fuck yourself, dude.

Just shut up and we don't even ever have to talk about it again. This guy sucks. Sucks. His thing says, loving husband and father, former D1 college golfer, avid gator and Jags fan. Which Bible verse?

I don't see one yet, but if I bet up, no pin tweet, good question, Trent, it's got to be on here somewhere. Yeah, I mean,

you can't shame some of, for having a meal with her wife and his apology like he released a fucking statement. What? No, you had a little, hopefully that we cured that problem with our recording here because you're, your internet zapped. Yeah, he released a statement like

Michael Jordan coming back from baseball retirement. Yeah. So, um, a little ridiculous. I, uh, I wanted to comment too that, um, I noticed private golf has reopened in, uh, New York State. Uh, I think it's, so we're talking a little bit before the show. I thought it was just like private clubs with private memberships,

but it sounds like it's anything that's privately owned. So you're going to be a public course, but you're owned by a private, that that private holding can decide if they want or not to open their golf course, which, again, to go back to the quote from Sethwa, where he said golf in its purest form is just a walk in the park. Dr. Anthony Fauci and his wife go for like a run in the park every night. So it's like, you can if you are,

exercising social distancing, I do not see any reason that golf wouldn't be fine. There are, of course, going to be some people who don't or who don't like social distance properly. And then you get into the problem of like, why even given the chance? But then you could argue the same thing. Like, you can't, you're not going to close like outside, right? Like if you can go for runs, you can go for walks, you need to do essential exercising as that. It starts an argument of like golf, should golf be available and open or not. I'm glad that it is back in New York. I wish it were everywhere, but it's good that it's back, Frank.

You got to be happy. Yeah, I need to get to a golf course. If you are in the East Meadow Nassau area, hit up your pasty boy over here because I need to get outside. I need to walk around. I don't feel comfortable just showing up to a just like, I don't know, a privately owned, not private course right now because I don't know what like is going to happen there. I don't know, like, I'd rather where I was like, I just want to go somewhere I'm comfortable that I know that like I'm going to be six feet away and then I can just get out of my car.

get onto the T-box. If you have that situation for me, hit me up. I'll bring a pizza. But I need to golf. Like, I need to golf. I need to get outside. I need to hit a golf ball. I was playing great golf.

I was striping the ball. I was actually putting. I was chipping. And now it's just all over. I'm taking 200 steps a day. I have no fucking circulation in my legs. I need to get out and I need to go off. I'm not going to walk around the block.

Like my mom's like, go walk around the block. Like, you old bag, I'm not walking around the block. I'm not walking around the block. Like, who do you think I am? I can barely get out of bed right now. You think I'm going to voluntarily walk around the block? I want to walk to my golf ball. And here's the other thing that I was going to say

when you brought up like the social distancing on the golf course is there's like a whole new world now of like golf trips that like are now readily available to us. Like for me when I when that group like when group techs were going off like oh golf's back private golf's back. I'm like everyone's like oh yeah but there's all these rules like no ranges, no cards. You can only have a pole cart.

you have to be six feet away up in the T's. Like there's certain things, like no rakes, obviously. And then like, I'm like, well, like, if I play with you, Andrew, like, we're going to be fine because you're always in the rough. And I'm always dead center cut in the fairway. So social distancing at its finest, like little things like that. Like, you know, like, did you see me on three there? Like, that's social distancing to its core because I'm, I'm shooting darts up there and you're all the way on the other hole. Like, it's little quirks and little jams.

Yeah, you're like, you out drive a guy. Be like, it's going to be easy to social distance from you because I out drive you. Oh, like it used to be cart golf. It used to be like the term that you'd say when two guys would hit it to the same spot on like the other fairway. But now like if you hit it to two opposite sides, be like, oh, social distancing. That's nice. Yeah, Corona golf, like COVID-19. Yeah.

Or if you shank ones, just practicing my social distancing boys didn't want to hit the green until you guys got off. They go. And everyone's like, ha-ha, okay, we'll forget that you're on your ninth shot right now. Like, ha, ha, global pandemic. Yeah. We are having fun. Yeah. This is a blast.

Love this. Lurch. Lurch. You posted a video last week of the, I don't even know what to call that contraption. Yes. Because everybody's using pooled noodles. Or they're using like raised cups.

That thing that you posted, I'm sure tons of people have seen it now. That is the most genius thing I've ever seen. Genius. Dude, I put that out there and then it just got like picked up. People were going nuts about it. Yeah, the thing has like a million and three,

1.3 million views now. Is that a video you took? No, it's the guy, so I've been playing some golf at this course Patriots Point down here in Charleston. And actually I played a, I played Pioneer's number four course from the driving range yesterday. Tita Green. And I saw that. I was confusing. I was just a classic lurch Instagram story.

People said that they loved it. It's a genius idea. I genuinely tried to figure out. I genuinely tried to figure out what you. were doing. I watched it three times. I could not figure out what you meant. I couldn't figure it out. Because you can't see where the ball goes. Yes, you can kind of judge it. So if it's like a 420 hole and I, you know, hit 1-260. What is it? Smoke it out. Well, I think the first hole at Piner's number four is actually 420 yards, if I remember it correctly. And I, we played

Pineers number four. So I was like playing it in my head. And if I pulled it left, like where I'd be, if I had to pit like kind of a pull draw. And then, yeah, so I just went and played the course that way. which is great. But to that point, that idea is genius for social distancing. I think that's fairly creative. Yeah. I mean, it's actually, I've got a bunch of feedback, except from these negative nancies. Frankie's doing his buffet of bits with his flag and all those other dumb stuff. This is not a buffet of bits. That's a great setup. It's actually real. It's like it's a way to practice. And actually, if I do warm up at a range, I will play the first hole of the T, of the golf course, like three times before I walk through

three. Wait, Trent, were you talking about his range debacle? Were you talking about The whole thing. The whole thing. Wait, what? I think he was talking about, I think he was talking about the, the hole. That way to practice is not unheard of. I've heard that. Yeah, no, I, I, both.

That's smart to play some holes and, like, try to, like, work on the show. It's just like Ty, like, if Tiger's talking about, you know, four months before the Masters, he's trying to work on, like, his T shot on 13 at Augusta, fine. I just thought the way it presented on Instagram was pathetic. Like, I didn't know it. No, I've done that, Larch, I've done that. But I was so confused at the way that it was.

worked on the video that I didn't know that's what you were doing. I, like, thought you were on a hole at one point. I'm like, why is it look like a range? I was so, I legitimately was so confused. At one point, the score, you had the scorecard, it just said, Pioneers number four today. Yeah, I was like, what is happening? I'm here. Anyway, I took an old scorecard out of my bag.

It took an old scorecard out of my bag, so I had to yard it. But you didn't say all that. It didn't say like, hey, I took the old scorecard out of my bag and I'm going to do this thing. It just was like, pining's number four today. I was like, tip pick over here. we're trying to help what was I going to say now before we started talking about something

that's stupid we've never talked about everything smart the contraption the devil's advocate here is that the ball goes into the hole I was seeing a lot of people comment about that like it's quite literally the same as just reaching in and getting it no like you well the ball touches the foam it's like the same thing

it's today except maybe there's less touch because your fingers or hand doesn't graze you know the side of the hole or maybe the flasked as well. I think really that's where like it creates a little risk mitigation. Yeah. Anyways, it was it was well. So someone just sent you that video and then you posted it? So this guy Greg who I've like talked to that works for, I won't say like Bobby Jones golf or something like that. They own a course Patriots Point over here. And so I've just been going back with them a little bit. He's like one of our courses, cobblestone has put these things in. And he's like, I was like,

oh man, that's genius. So I just put it out to the worldwide. web and people went nuts over it. So a lot of people saying it's going to, it would help like older people too. Can't bend down and get the ball. Right. Eventually they'll have to go down. So you need like a cup around the outside. You know, it would have to lift the whole cup on.

So like when you lift it with your putter, it would still stay in the hole. Do you know what I'm saying? No. Frankie? No. So like if you just use it today, like the ball comes out, but it still rolls on the green. So like the old person still has to go down. Well, they can flick it up with their putter.

Right. They could do that. Or if there was just a little lip on the outside. you could pick it up with your putter and then you could bring it up to waist height. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, those old guys always got the putter lift up. Oh, yeah, that little suction. You ever see the suction at the end?

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a really good one. It's true. So the old people, it's great. I mean, that thing was genius. It did so well because it was, I mean, it's a genius. Yeah, it's just completely out of left field. Speaking of which, did you guys know that,

so the Chicago Cubs had a stadium called Westside Park. It was before Wrigley Field. And it had a mental hospital just past left field wall. And players used to say they used to hear wild noises and screaming coming out of left field. Hence the term, out of left field. No way. Dude, I heard that fact like five years ago from somebody. And to this day, it's maybe the best fact in the world.

There you go, baby. That's incredible, Frankie. I'm back. Yeah, that's incredible. Hit me with it again from the beginning. All right. So Westside Park, the Cubs Stadium before Wrigley Field, had a mental facility, mental hospital past left field.

And players who used to play in the outfield used to have rumors or say, like legend has it that they would hear noises from this mental hospital beyond left field. So whenever something now happens, that's crazy, weird, unexpected, you'd say it's out of left field. Isn't that insane? That's awesome. I mean, come on. Cheers to me.

Class to me. Everyone fucking let me hear it. Really good. Do you know is, was that field the same as Wrigley? Because like, Riggly's got a little creepy feel when, you know, like the wall is brick and there's Ivy coming over it. Was it the same?

Do you have any idea? I don't. I don't. To be honest, before I saw this, now, this is what Frankie's facts is, I don't research it at all. I just regurgitate the information. I read it and I just say it. I don't have, I'm not, I don't have time to look to see if it's true.

It's frankly facts before falsehoods. And I never even knew that Wrigley Field had a stadium before Wrigley Field. I mean, it's 120 years old. I thought like the Cubs, I thought the Cubs have been playing in Wrigley Field forever. Yeah, same. That's awesome. That's a great fact. It's got to be your best.

Yep. Now, like, is there some fucking some smart ass that's going to be like, well, actually, it goes back to wartime, like Revolutionary War where like the left side of the field, like someone would flank you from the left side and out of left field, whatever. I don't know. Yeah, that's what I would. But I think out of left field, because there's fucking crazy people screaming beyond the wall, is that's the one that I want to believe. Yeah.

The beauty of us, the beauty of us, the beauty of us, having a platform and someone else doesn't have a platform, we can ignore anyone who corrects it. So everyone listening just thinks that it's this one. That's correct. In my age, it makes kind of Wrigley feel a little bit more like creepy right now just because that outfield wall, like I could, you could have it insane insolument. You know what I think? I think it's in the whole thing. I think it's in a different place. I don't know that for sure.

I know, but I'm just, you know, created in my head. That wall has really got you shook. You said that wall twice. Well, I'm just thinking it's the only stadium

with a brick wall, brick outfield wall? Yeah, right? And so, like, it's the creepiest outfield wall now when you add that on

in the history. Why are you saying the word creepy? Because it's an insane style. Oh, I thought you're talking about the brick wall. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just picturing it. No, before you said it's got that creepy brick wall.

You didn't say that. No, but I'm saying, yes, it's creepier now because of what you stayed with your facts. It's just a wall on a baseball state. Why is it? I mean, it's a wall. Poor guys. Can't have a smile. What does that have to do with smiling?

I don't get why it would be creepy. Why is the wall creepy? I'm saying if you picture you picture it out, now that's not creepy. But if you picture like insane people behind the wall, which is what I'm doing, that wall now becomes creeper with the ivy encroaching over the top. Oh, hot ice. I heat up the ice. You guys don't know what I'm talking about.

No. Oh, Jesus Christ. I could use some icy hot on my back, dude. The rookie of the year. Oh, geez. It's been a while. Me too. It's been so long.

Some guys use the ice. Some guys like it hot. I heat up the ice. Hot ice. How do you not know what I'm talking about? We didn't know the first time. You know what I mean? We let you down there.

Yeah, it's one of the best. I think it's a great fucking moment. I think it's great movie. I just didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, all right, all right. Taga Woods, we found out, um, Taga Woods was chewing orange trident gum. Remember last year when he all of a sudden, the masters appeared and was just chewing gum and then won the masters and everyone's like, it's CBD, it's this, that. Robbie Mack has apparently confirmed. He said that, uh, Joey La Cava has this orange, I believe it's trident type gum. I ended up getting hooked on it too, because, um, Robbie Mac is, uh, because I like the sugar and the flavor. That's what Joey and I end up chewing to wake ourselves up is what Tigers said. Robbie Mac is such a ride or die guy that he's like, I got addicted to the gum too. I love the gum.

I just love the gum. It's like, you don't have to say that, but he's like, no, no, no, he likes the gum, I like the gum too.

I want to believe it. I want to eat the orange, I'm going to order the orange gum, but I think that's the only reason they said that is because maybe someone like, and maybe have like a new ad deal with that gum or something. I mean, it had to have been CBD because,

because Phil was doing it at the same time, wasn't he? Like Phil was doing it, other guys were doing it, and the way they were chewing it, like, that's no orange-flavored gum, man. Come on. We all know, too, that gum, like, you take two chews. You take two chews and it's over. Like, there's no more flavor there. He was chewing that thing walking up 18.

How much would that piece of gum go for if they sold on eBay? Oh, I'd swallow it. What? I would swallow that gum. Why? I don't know. That felt like a quick answer, but it doesn't make any sense. I don't know, like just to have inside me.

I don't know. Oh, that's getting dirty. Why? He holds the biggest bat too. I just want to swallow it. I put, I put on John Tavares' shoes once in a blue moon. So, like, I don't know. I just like to be connected.

That didn't turn out great, huh? No. But like, but if you spend all this money, if you buy that for like $60,000 on eBay, and then you just get in the mail, they're like, boom, that's going right. Here's a question. Here's a question. Here's a question. Tiger Woods is walking off 18 at the masters. He flicks you that gum says, chew this. Do you chew it? Yep. Yeah, you chew it. I don't swallow it. I mean, what if you have to swallow it? Do you swallow it? Yep. But I'm not going to offer that. Hold on. I'm not going to say, hey, tiger, can I swallow your

gum? Hold on. You are creating a scenario. You are creating a scenario where Tiger Woods says swallow that gum. You, unprompted before, like, I will just swallow that. gum. Those are two different things. I don't need to be, I don't need to be dictated by the boss to do things. I have, I have, I'm, I'm just stepping ahead of the, of the situation. I'm like, I'll swallow this before we have to tell me to. Maybe I'll just, he wouldn't want that. He wouldn't want that. That's a ridiculous spin zone. You're acting like Tiger would obviously want to tell you to swallow your gum. No. That's his favorite thing to do post-round is to give up to Frankie to swallow his gum. Swallow that gum, Frank. Imagine him walking off the green just tosses to me. And like, I, like, I. I catch it, he goes, saw that. Do you guys watch Between Two Ferns? Yes. Or Brad Pitt is on with Galpinnakis, and throughout the entire interview,

they like spit the gum back and forth like two or three times. It's so good. His Obama one was really good, too. Really good. Yeah. One of my favorite ones is when he says to Steve Correll, that he heard that Despicable Me was supposed to be depicted after his nose,

but they found his nose to be too cartoonish. And Steve Crowell was like, oh, okay, okay, you fatso. That shit is so funny. That's great. Okay, we got to do a little from the gallery. We got a couple really good ones. Fourplay at Barstualsports.com. Kirby, who's a big fan of the show.

Kirby Bucket? Big friend of the show. Nope. Different to Kirby. Billy Casper shot 106 plus 34 on the day during the first round of the 2005 Masters, which turned out to be a great week for the boss man. True.

Billy Casper made only three pars that day. How do you think you would fare on breaking 106 and three par mark during the actual tournament? Also, a little side note, a little fun fact, Billy chose not to sign the scorecard and was disqualified. I love that. That was a great question. I learned something from it. And it's a thought-provoking one.

If you, right, if you teed off. in the masters, in the masters. Could you break 106 and make more than three bars? Let me go first. I could not. I mean, those greens, those greens are so treacherous during that week. And when you go there, the first thing you notice other than the beauty of Augusta and you can't believe you're there, it's a fairyland. You realize just how hilly those greens are.

And you just realize that you would be absolutely dead. So no, I would not break 106, and absolutely not what I'm like three parts, no way. No, tournament conditions makes this a hard no for me. Like maybe members tease, I'll be like, all right, maybe I can shoot around 100, 104. Like, I don't know. Like if it's not that far, if it's not that long, I can figure out a way to make double bogey, bogey here and there. Like I'm not going to make nines every single hole.

But like tournament conditions, long golf course, 7,500 yards, whatever the hell it is. I mean, if he's shooting 106, he's incredibly better than I am. There's no way I'm making four pars. I'm not making three. No, I'm not breaking that. Yeah. I also, like, I think the fact that it's tournament conditions in terms of, like, the crowd, the fact that on, like, television and all the, like,

if I just went out there and played Augusta for the first time from the master's teas, like, yeah, I think I could do better than what I was. I don't know for sure. I think I would do way better than 106. But like, if I went out in the actual master's, they introduced you, four, please, like rigs now driving. And you've got to play all 18 holes in this. Like, I feel like, I mean, I know older and fine.

I get all that stuff. But like, I don't know. 106 would be. I think you'd have a better chance of making four pars than you would shooting better than 106. Yeah. Like, I can't imagine. Like, and on the T, the four play crew.

And like, we're playing from 7,500 yards. and the four of us just go out there. We just give a little hat tip, like, thank you. Then you're, it's like literally just now it's Trent's turn. They'll be carrying people out in bags. Oh, my God. What's our kill count? Your first two-star?

Oh, my God. Your first tee shot from Palmeau, if you hit that same T shot on the first T, takes out three people. Oh, at least people be dead. Also, it hurts like 100 yards of run when you hit like a worm burner up to the right. Here's the thing.

Do you think like you actually, I think I kill a person if I play in a PG-Tor event. Like, maybe you like break an arm or something. I think I legitimately kill someone. I hit such low-line, like, hook sometimes that, like, I think I could murder someone with that amount of fans around the golf course. I think one could just come right off the toe.

Yeah, like you're saying, a toe of my driver and kill someone eight feet from me. Yeah. Yeah, when they're lined up close, I'm thinking, though, more so like, Frankie's got 40 yards in. Oh, yeah. And it's kind of an N green. So, like, there's fans all the way behind the green.

And you just skull a missile because one guy's in the back, like, looking, look, and looking, like, where's the ball going? And then the first guy ducks and just, do you smell you. Dude, Frankie, how horrifying it was at Whiskey Creek when Barstool Classic participants were watching us play the 18th hole? That was a nightmare. Now think about it. My heart was racing. My heart was pounding. Now think about that.

That was a par five, right? Yeah. I actually played that whole fantastic. I hit a perfect drive with the three went down the middle and then roped, roped my second shot to pin high into a bunker, got out there, and then I was putting for, I was putting for birdie. And I think I made a bogey, if I remember correct. I think I three putt because I was, everyone was fucking, I was so nervous.

Yeah, I fared a little bit differently. It was horrifying. But I remember the feeling of like, my heart was pounding so much that I felt the pulse in my fingertips on the grip. Maybe. Like a video game. You might need crowds, Frankie. Remember at Tobacco Road when all those guys showed up behind the

green on the, whatever it is, the 13th hole, 14th old, that par three? Yep. I drilled that green. But then I also three putt that and made a bogey. Actually, so I clearly, I can't putt. I ended up playing really well when those guys, after that par three at Tobacco Road. I ended up playing really well with those guys watching. Those guys are going crazy.

I'm hit or missed with the crowds. Maybe you guys are crowd guys. I mean, my first teaser, an absolute nightmare, so I don't know. It's kind of all over the place. Oh, yeah, that page, when we had the crowd behind us, it didn't fare so well for breaking. No, made a par there, though. Yeah, you did. And then he had, like, reporters out making sure that they told every group behind us that, hey, even though that happened, I made a car.

Yeah, covering his, covering his track. I'm a joke, so. All right. I don't think you are Yeah You're down on the dumps Frankie No I know I just I can't hit the golf ball

At the first tee so like I'm just My game's a joke these days I just shot 94 the other day I mean I can't hit it It's going Because I usually hit that little trap draw But now I'm hitting low lefts And wildly high right pushes

And so I lost a bunch of money To betters the other day via Instagram I asked if anybody wanted to take me. I tried to take only eight bets. I ended up taking 10 and yeah, they got all the money. This podcast comes out on Tuesday. I want to be on a golf course on Wednesday.

And if it doesn't happen, I'm quitting the podcast. Okay. All right. I'm rooting for you. Imagine if there's a, what if there's just like a state, they just rule again like Cuomo comes over the top and shuts down all golf courses. You're just quitting the podcast? That would suck.

That would suck. And I wouldn't do it and I won't quit the podcast. That is the caveat. If rulers in charge tell me I can't do it, then I won't do it and I won't quit the podcast. But if there's a perfectly playable golf course that abide by the rules and it is in somewhat of a zone to my house, which is East Meadow in Nassau County, and I'm not on a golf course on Wednesday. I will take a piss on my laptop and I will quit the podcast. Wow. And we all know I'm not a man of my words, so I won't do any of that. I just want to golf.

I just want to golf. That's what I want to do. I think you're going to get some people are going to reach out too. I think so too. I just want to play golf, man. I hope you play golf. I'm excited for you to play well. Lurch, the trick is I, it's the way I do it with the Instagram.

If I took every bet, you know, you'd have, I'd have 25 grand on the line every round that I play. Yeah. On the overrunners. So I do a, I write a little note in my notes app. I say something at the beginning to make it feel like personalized, ha, ha, you're on. And then I write VenmoMe, 20. 25 bucks now. Here's my Venmo.

If I lose, I'll Venmo you back double. And I send that to eight or 12 people. And then that's it. So I did exactly that. I just sent my Venmo account out to 10 people instead of eight. So I just lost track of how many people. But yeah, I only took what I wanted to being eight bets. But yeah, so it does hurt.

So, you know, like, yeah, I accepted all the 25 bucks in. So you take in that 250, but you don't really think about that because I had to pay out 500. And like, then it went over. So it just zapped it out of my bank account. So I was like, damn. Yeah, it sucks. It's really, it's like, that's, because I had, I lost like two or three in a row that were 300 bucks each day. And literally then when I lost two to a row, I sent out $1,200 from a memo account because I took in half of the fucking. And then I sent a double out. So it's a sucks. It's a sucks. It's a sucks. 250 isn't enough to cut and run. Like, you, if you want, you know, if you wanted to disappear to a remote island, two. 50 ain't enough. Well, I'm saying too because I sent it, so I put everybody's like Venmo in one thing and then you send it out. So when you take in the 250, but then you go over that in your Venmo account, it just sucks it out of your bank account. When it goes to a bank account, it's like now real money. Like when it just plays in Venmo, who cares? But then when it's more than it just the whole thing sucks. So I'm going to get those guys back. I'm also I can't shoot 94 again and have a competitive round. Remember we were just talking about how good you were golf? I'm so gone. It's so gone. My game is so gone. I can't. It's so bad.

It's awesome. I love it. So bad. I couldn't get anything close to the hole. Like I was driving it okay. I was like pulling an iron. But then my chips were horrible. And I found water and then I was just bad.

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he was going to point back up at Tiger Woods on the hill. Now, I did not see this Instagram. But this seems like a, like, why would you even say that? Why would you have like a plan? Like, do you, I don't feel like golfers with their reactions, whether it's a fist pump or a throw in of the hat or some crazy reaction in golf or a high five on your cat. None of that.

I don't feel like that stuff. It just happens. So why would Brooks Kepka like walk to the green being like, okay, if I make this eagle, I'm going to point up at Tiger. Like, what? Yeah, we talked a celebration the other day. And also, sure you were, Brooks. Like, sure you were. Like, you could say that now that you missed that eagle putt and Tiger Woods won the tournament.

But, like, I can go back and rewrite history all I want too. Like, him being like, I was going to make that eagle put and fucking thrust my dick at the best golfer of all time. Like, okay, yeah, let's play in hypotheticals. That's fun. it's such a Brooks thing for people to get like hyped up and like oh dude he's so sick man like yo brooks you're one of us man like you would have totally pointed at him and been like yeah your turn it's like bro you missed the put and like you guys are saying like who knows what would have happened had you actually made the put but you didn't and like you k hindsight's 2020 like yeah like tiger

probably wishes like he would have known that everything would have happened he would have done like a a thing where he's like i'm fucking back bitch is like something crazy that like but you just don't know what's going to happen in the moment. Yeah, Tiger can be like, if I had made that hole in one in 16, I was going to strip off all my clothes and jump into the water. Like, okay. Yeah. Oh, that's sick, dude.

Yo, you're sick. Yo, you are sick. That's like pre-scripted celebrations is weird. Like, I like celebrations because they're unscripted. And like, there's no, yeah, that just doesn't make any sense. Like, Brooks, it doesn't make you better than the golf, the golf dorks that you always say that you're, like, arguing against and, like, and battling.

Like, that's just make, like, you just sound, I think he sounds stupid by, or if that's true, I'd like to know the context. I'd like, right. Because like, was it said in a jokingly manner? Like, yeah, if I made that, I would have pointed back up to him. Like, I'm not sure of the exact court. Or was he literally like walking up to the green being like, yo, if I make this putt, I'm going to point back at Tiger Woods like, ooh.

And what Riggs said is right. There's no way he plans something like that or people don't plan those things, which means Brooks Kepka thought about this after the fact and was like, if I had planned a celebration when making that eagle put, what would it be? That makes, it's just such a weird thing to say. Yeah. And like, we're talking about this. None of us like saw all the Instagram live.

Yeah, right. Oh, yeah. But having, like, if, like, if that, what are we just going to have a hypothetical awful? Tiger might hear that. Oh, yeah. Actually, I was thinking if Brooks Kempka made the eagle pot and then pointed back at me, I was thinking it hit a five iron to two feet, make it and then like go shove my dick down his throat. And be like, oh, okay, like that.

Now Brooks, what were you going to do if Tiger would shove his dick done? It's like we can do this all day. It is true. It is true. We have zero context and I got a little heated there. I like your first take. Trent, your first take was,

yeah, stick with it. Yeah, it was good. I'm sticking with it. Yeah. It was really good. It's good to get a nice sports heat take on,

you know? True. I've been able to like get angry at anyone. Just been fucking mope in my own piss. You have one of those bags down the side of your legs, so you don't even tell you about them. Just pee and just goes into a bag. God.

I got to get out of here, man. Yeah. Oh, okay. Nothing really. I got nothing fucking going on, man. I got nothing going on. When people do you like the, you know, FaceTime catches up with like your family and whatnot.

And you're like, oh, yeah, what are you up to? It's like everybody's doing nothing. You know, there's like no answer for that. It's like, oh, no, what are you doing? Like, you get excited to hear like maybe there's something else going on. And there's just, we're just, we're just, we're just. I did one last night with my family, like my sisters. And, like, it was like,

my whole family, everyone's at home. And they're like, oh, what did you guys do? And I was like, I watched Onward on Disney Plus. And everyone was like, oh, I was like I watched a Pixar movie. And it was like the biggest fucking, it was like the craziest thing happened of all the time. Everyone's like, oh my God, how was it? I'm like, too, I didn't go to like some like extravagant country and like just

get back with all these stories. I watched like a Pixar movie. And it was great. Onward's really good. Pixar never misses. Pixar never misses. I hear Disney Plus is crushing it with the content. I haven't watched any of their stuff yet.

Well, they have High School Musical, the musical, the series, which is quite literally one of the best series of all time. It's so watchable. It's so, it's just, I mean, if you like high school musical, it's great. Frankie, it's never seen it. Frankie, I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast now, but I took your advice and I started watching Schitt's Creek. It is, it's so good.

It's good. It's so good, dude. It's funny. Every character there's got a good story. Maybe I'll start watching that one. I haven't watched it. You should. The dad's a legend.

the guy is from Eugene leave it. Eugene leave it. Yes, yes. And what, he was in American Pie or not? Yeah. Yeah. He's just a legend. Like, he's so good. The son's good. The whole thing's good. Well, you'll get this. The best part, not the best part, but one of the best parts is that they're 22-minute episodes. So you just...

I saw that tweet. That was a great tweet. You just, it's true you fly right through them. I watched the first two seasons and it took me like no time at all. Did you know that, I'm only on the second season right now. Did you know that his son is, that's his actual son. Yes. Yes.

That should always trips me out. That his daughter is the one who is like dating Mutt. Twyla. Yeah, Twyla. Yeah. Isn't that sick? Yeah. I read a family's in the show. Yeah. It's like, oh, don't tell me about shit screen. And his, him and his brother wrote the show. So it's like the whole family got together. Like, like, let's make this incredible Netflix, like, comedy. And it's a Canadian show. It started on like some pop network.

And in Canada, it's a Canadian show. Those guys are Canadian. And now it's just like, it's huge. Do you know enough about the family or is it like I was going to make a joke but then I came back? Like why didn't the mom get in on it? Like I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Yeah, all I know is that Moore is one of the funniest characters of all time. Alexis. Alexis. Oh, please. I want to shower about this, this town off me, David. It's great. The 22 minute episodes are dangerous too because I was watching when you tweeted that out, I was, or I saw it when I was like, had like 30 minutes left and it was already, you know, midnight or after. It's like, what am I doing up?

But the 22 minute episodes make it dangerous because you're like, I don't know, I can stay up for another. That's only 22 minutes. What's another recommendation? What else have you guys been watching? I'm still trying to finish up Harry Potter. I'm on the, I'm on the half-blood Prince is next up. I'm getting there. It's starting to get dark.

Yeah. dark i fucking yeah it's it's it's it's incredible how frustrated you get with a lot of the characters and like the um the like like umbrage and and and and the crew the ministry like not only not understand it's actually very um i've been drawing a ton of parallels to the coronavirus of like people in charge were like no no like the the bad man and the bad stuff's not actually here like you guys are fine everything's fine and then it's like oh Oh, fuck. He's here.

Everyone's fucking running around like chickens with their heads off. Oh, speaking of recommendation, I think we mentioned in the beginning. I mean, the Michael Jordan documentary and the golf stuff in there, even though it was like maybe one or two clips of a two-hour documentary, maybe they showed like five seconds of him on the golf course, but it was like must-watch stuff. Like, anytime Michael Jordan's on the golf course, I'm tuned in. I got to watch. I get to watch last night. Oh, man. It's, I mean, they just show like, you know what's crazy is they show a clip of him.

playing with Danny Aange before a game. And we watched Danny Aange play with like guys before, like, with Tony Fienow and also, what's his name, I godala. Yeah. Wasn't he with them? Yeah, I think so. It's crazy when you see like beginning and end of career people play.

Like the fact that like Sydney played with Mario like still is like amazing to me. Yeah. You know, and like people that touch one generation and go into the next, it's always, it's crazy. Oh, you're talking hockey there. I was like, you know what the fuck. The Jordan documentary, the golf stuff is very funny. It's worth it just for the golf outfits that he wears. There's, it's in the short.

So much on Twitter. Yeah, that one, I had that one clip where he's just like, he's on the tee box. He just low hooks an iron into the trees. And he's just like, get through. I am not hitting it today, man. And that's just like, the fact that he's doing that before like a finals game or whatever it was is just like so crazy. And that he cares.

Like he's like, oh, he cares so much. You know, he's like, I'm just not hitting it. And it's like, dude, you're about to go win an NBA. Like, what are you talking about? Dude, I never think, I never, when I think of like, like, ideal or like iconic forums that you want to play with, like, who's your, like, number one dream for some. You always think of these, like, players that, like, you know, like, Tiger Woods. Like, you want to be with, like, Phil Mickelson or, like, Rory. Like, that's always been, like, my golf one recently.

Because actually someone just asked me that the other day who would, like, your four golfer for some big. And I, like, I think if you're doing. doing it just across the board. I think Michael Jordan and Tiger both need to be paired. I think you need to be in there to be able to hear like, like how competitive their lives have been, like on the golf course and like how much money has like been spewed around between them because, I mean, Tiger, I've heard Michael Jordan just can buy a golf course

with how much he gambles out there. Right, that he's always got action every way you could possibly. Hundreds of thousands of dollars. The two of them too are like the most, or maybe the two most iconic sports figures. Of the last 30 years, yeah? Yeah. Of all time, Trent, I saw someone say like, oh, it's Michael Jordan,

Muhammad Ali, and Babe Ruth. Like, I mean, you can go fuck your face. Like, Tiger Woods is so much more. Yeah, Michael Wolbon was saying that. Now, was he saying that up until the point that Michael George, like in the late 80s and early 90s before Tiger made his, I think he did say he said up until that point, Jordan was like the number.

one alpha sports male. So maybe he wasn't including Tiger in that. I just saw a lot of like elite talk and like best of all times and like one of the best app. And I didn't see Tiger at all last night. Like on Twitter, nothing. Like no one's talking about the boss man.

Like an argument could be made that Tiger Woods is more dominant at golf than Michael Jordan was at basketball. No? It's also, he is like some of his records and like his actual stretches of his peak and his prime. Yes. But like one thing it kills Tiger is the Jack. Nicholas thing.

Like he just doesn't have the most majors in the history of the game. Okay, but Michael Jordan doesn't have the most championships. So what I think a huge factor is, I was going to say, is like Michael Jordan's like Nike and the fucking jump man and all of that like built into his legend so much so. And Tiger is the only other person that I could think of that's had that same combination of like being the actual best and also being the most marketable and iconic and like transcendent figure in the game, in your respective game.

The two of them, like they both did it so uniquely and on such an extreme level, both on and off the court and course, that I don't know anyone else is in their actual group. I wonder if you pulled everyone that's like our age, like in our age group, like 20 to 40. And you just said the word Nike and you have to put an athlete to it. I wonder how many people, like what the percentage is that they would just say like Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan. I think Tiger Woods would be higher because Michael Jordan's his own brand, right? I don't know. Frankie's flags just fell.

What the fuck was that? Right. Well, with Jordan now, Jordan. The page has fallen. No, man. Jumpman is obviously Nike affiliated, but like the Jumpman is like its own thing now. Tiger was always Nike. Yeah.

I don't know. I just think like, I don't know. I just, like, you want to talk about revolutionary and iconic? Like, Tiger Woods is like, like, I don't know. It's just, I don't know, I just think Tiger Woods is so much more revolutionary than, you know, I mean, guys had already been really, like, like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's going to vary for a different age demographics, too.

It's so hard for us, you know. Like Magic Johnson was already, like, doing the damn thing. at the time. You know what I mean? It just seems like Tiger was the old, like, fucking only one. This is the argument that I made in the office whatever it was over the last like six months. At one point, we were debating this. And I was like, basketball and like soccer and these other sports, the biggest star of those sports

are probably bigger on a global level than Tiger Woods because those sports are bigger. But Tiger Woods did more for in elevating than has done comparatively to any sport. And that combined with the fact that he is a major sports figure too

elevates him in my mind to such a more, it's just such a unique level. Like it's like he's on almost his own level of like you're right. We've had these mega stars that came through in basketball. Basketball was already huge. And then Michael Jordan became the biggest one of them and he was the best. Whereas like

Jack Nicholas, who was clearly the best in golf, wasn't the biggest like marketable Arnold Palmer was. He was up there and he was like one of the greatest, but not the greatest. Whereas Tiger Woods came in was the fucking shit. He was everywhere. He was Mr. Nike. He was so marketable.

Oh, and he won the Masters by 12 shots. He's like first major as a pro. And then three years later, he fucking won four majors in a row, including the U.S. Open by 15 shots while being like the red shirt and the Mr. Tiger. Like he did it all. And it was like, holy shit. So like that puts him on such a different level, I think.

Yeah. And also like a team aspect too. Like like it's just it's just different for me. Like I mean, Michael Jordan, don't get me wrong. It's one and two for me. It's like Michael Jordan. It's like it's icon versus icon. And you can't, you can't be wrong choosing either option. But I just think the fact that you can't, in my mind mind. The fact that you can't be wrong choosing either option and that tiger wasn't really like discussed last night or or like wasn't even brought into the conversation is mind boggling to me. Yeah. I agree with that. All right. Next up, we got Jeff McNeil of the New York Mets. It's a fun time. So I think people are going to enjoy this one. We actually asked him about, you know, Frankie if he was going to be a tough guy and talk shit about him right after he left the show. He's too nice of a guy to like, you know,

really talk shit about it. He's just super nice. Like just. Super nice laid back. Like after that interview, there's no way that you could have been like, he's such like, you'll whatever. Like there's no take on the negative side.

A bunch of my buddies who were all met fans were like, how was the squirrel? I was like, he was fantastic. He was. He was just nice and just like lighthearted and just wants to talk out. So with that, here is the squirrel. Remind you to go to store. Dot Barstoresports.com. Click on the golf link. We got a lot of good stuff in there.

Our hoodies have been going crazy. People are buying a lot of the hoodies. We've got kind of the wider white, grayish ones with the green and the yellow. We've got the crew necks. We've got Navy ones in there now. We've got all kinds of good golf accessories from shoes. two tea bags made by Seamus golf. We've got belts.

We've got quarter zips. We've got performance polos from Roeb-Ber, well, performance polos and performance teas from Roeback. We've got hats. We're pretty much all wearing the Travis Matthew. We got the, I got the white one on. Frankie's got one of the, maybe the charcoal one on. So we got a lot of good stuff in there.

Store.d.barspoolsports.com. Foreplay. Golf stuff is what I recommend because that's our stuff. And we like golf store. or not barstualsports.com. Here is Jeff McNeil. So obviously we're all in quarantine. I mean, you're, you know, Mets,

one of the best hitters in the league last year. What's it like for you right now? I mean, are you guys antsy to get back? Are you confident that you guys can get back? Where are you at with the whole quarantine? Yeah, you know, it's been tough. We're all ready to go. And then, you know, everything getting shut down in spring training,

you know, kind of suck. But, you know, we all want to get back. Hopefully, you know, NLB can come up with something. that's safe for the players and, you know, safe for everyone. And, you know, we can get back to playing. I know a lot of people out there, you know, itching for, you know, some kind of sports right now. So, you know, I guess the sooner we can get back,

the better as long as it's safe. Yeah, it's kind of, I feel like it's similar to golf in ways that it's not as contact, you know, blood bleeding and sweating all over each other, like maybe basketball or hockey or football. So there is kind of a little bit more of a natural source. social distancing aspect to it. So I feel like with that, you know, baseball golf could maybe come back a little earlier than the others, which I'm sure would be really awesome for you. Yeah. You know, there's not a lot of contact in baseball. You know, baseballs are constantly being thrown out,

beating a bunch of foul balls. So baseballs are out of play. So not a whole lot of contact and, which is good. So, you know, hopefully that can get us back quicker. And, you know, as for golf, you know, hopefully, you know, I thought I saw June something, then might come back, which is, which is awesome. And, you know, they'll be able to stay, you know, six feet apart and, you know, it should be, it should be no problem for social distancing in the golf aspect. So you're obviously a big golf guy. I met you last year at the Barstville Classic, which you won, you and your boy won, which we'll get into. But, well, Riggs, he was already smirking when you said you're a big golf guy because he knew like what was coming, like, oh, Jeff McNeil,

New York Mets, professional baseball player, but let's talk about how you won the Barstall Classic. I just want to talk about golf, you know. You showed up to our tournament. You won the Dan thing. This is a fun, this is a fun interview for me. Talks involved, so. So, I mean, you're in California now, right? I'm actually still in Port St. Lucie. So, you know, I'm still down in Florida. We're just going to kind of wait it out here.

Some of the golf courses were open. So, you know, it kind of made sense to stay down here and, you know, wait for spring training and start back up again. So you talked about it with me at the Barstall Classic, which, again, you want. I hate until you have to keep admitting that. It was a qualifier, though, so. You want a qualifier, right. you hit your wrist, which I thought, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that I could

sense on your face when you hurt, when you got injured at the end of the season, that, oh, shit, I can't play in the Barstow Classic Championship. Absolutely. I remember, yeah, right when it hit me, you know, I know things weren't good. And, you know, I got taken right off the field and, you know, straight into the X-ray room. And as soon as, I mean, that's one of the first things I thought is, you know, fuck, no golf. And Ryan said, yeah, it's broken. I go, because there's three, there's three games left.

We were out of the playoffs, like at that point. So, you know, rather than have, like, damn it, no golf. I had a whole bunch of tournaments lined up. I had, you know, the Barstow Classic, which I was looking forward to. I had the straight down, straight down Fall Classic, which I was playing with, I was supposed to be playing with Rod Panfling as my partner. So it was tough for me. It's tough off season.

Man, that's awful timing. I was stunned. Like, you were telling us at the Barstow Classic that you played high school golf and didn't play baseball. until your senior year? Yeah. So, you know, I wanted to play college golf, wanted to, you know, take that around.

I wanted to, you know, try to be on the PGA tour, played a lot of AJGA events and played in the U.S. junior amateur in 2009. So I wanted to play college golf just didn't really get any, didn't get any scholarships. And, you know, I might have been able to walk on some places, but, you know, started playing baseball again. And, you know, within like two or three weeks playing baseball again, I had a scholarship to Cal State Northridge.

What are you talking about? Imagine that. Imagine having so much talent that you're like, I want to do this one thing, but I'm going to try this other thing for two to three weeks, and now I have all these scholarships. I picked up that bat and now I'm just on the Mets. What are you talking about, dude? Basically what happened.

Yeah, just picked it up again. I was playing on my brother scout team. And basically, you know, my parents told the coach, you know, if you want my brother, you get me as well. So, you know, I got on the team and, you know, I had a scholarship a couple weeks later to Northridge. And it ended up going along with me since. happened but went to Long Beach and you know you got you got one shot to play professional baseball

I took it and you know once you know baseball's over you know always go back and play golf and you know I'm still playing golf you know I'm still using my platform right now to you know get into some tournaments and you know playing playing all the golf I can right now it's a good sport to be in because you like you know you have a big off season you're able to go down like California, Florida wherever you want to go and you can just play as much as you want and even right now you guys like you said you guys aren't playing baseball or now how much are you golfing down in Florida while you guys are in quarantine? I'm golfing a little bit, you know, maybe once a week.

I think it's a good, you know, activity to get out. For sure. We're staying away from everybody. You know, there's no contact whatsoever. So we're being extremely safe. It's just good to, you know, get out of the house and get on the golf course every now and then. Absolutely.

So I was looking your, what's this knobblest bat action? You go no knob on your bat? Yeah. So I started using this bat. in 2000, I think 15. It was like a 35, 32-ounce bat. You know, big bat choked up on it. Had no knob.

It was given to me by my hitting coordinator and I just loved it. It was super balanced. I felt good in my hands and then swinging it ever since. I cut it down a little bit to a, you know, 34 inch. But it's super thick. So it's really balanced. Just, yeah, I've been loving it. Probably never change it.

It's working. It's more like a golf grip. It's got no end to it. Yeah. I look through it right now. My golf grips are super fat. I get pretty handsy with my swing, so I need, you know. You like that girth, man.

I mean, you just need that, you know. Wrapping those hands around it. Just got to wrap those hands, man. Got to fill those hands, brother. I feel you. I feel you. I mean, no, I could not bring that up. No, you had too much girth talk.

I was looking, you swung at the highest percentage of pitches in the major leagues last year. Is that like, are you always just kind of? of super aggressive. Is that how you play golf? Like you're just ripping driver everywhere. Is that just your personality? Yeah. So super aggressive in the zone and I'm ready to hit anything and I kind of swing at everything. You know, kind of not the best at times, you know, swings in the dirt, but, you know, sometimes I'll hit them. So that works. And that's what the golf course. Yeah. I just like to grip and rip. My high school coach used to hate me. Like hate me. He, you know, he followed me around and our team was good. Our team was really good. So I need to take.

time we could save a shot or two, you know, it was, it was huge. And, you know, short par fours, I'm ripping driver for no reason. You know, it's a two iron wedge and I'm trying to rip a driver and put it in front of the green. And he didn't like that very much. So that's incredible. Yeah. I mean, you swung at 85% of pitches inside the strike zone last year. Like, that's incredible. Yeah, just ready to hit it all time. You only get three strikes, so might as well swing at all of them. What do we got in the, what do we have in the bag? What do we, what are we swinging these days? So right now I just got the new Taylor Made Sim.

Love it. Yeah. Riggs just got one sent to him. He says it's like otherworldly. It's a cheat. It's a cheat code. The thing's ridiculous. I love it. I like the way it feels.

I used to, I was swinging the title list. T.S. T.S.3, I believe. Yeah, that's what I have. Yeah. Last years or not the newest one, but I was swinging that. You know, I felt good too.

But as soon as I started to swing the Sim, it's awesome. But for the most part, got all title list. I had the title of Spreewood, which I'm going to go to the Taylor right now after swinging the driver. Wow. For sure. Man, this sin must be so sick. Everyone that talks about it.

What about it do you like? Is it like, like, what, what's, because I love the TS3. Like, it's my favorite driver. I like, I like the feeling off the face. It feels like, you know, if you ever, if you ever hit a composite baseball, like baseball that, it's like that don't, it feels, it just feels way different than, you know, the title list or anything. I love it.

Um, like the first time, if it was weird, the first time I hit it, it felt like I skied it. Like that feeling you know when you, when you sky it, like doesn't feel like it's weird. And I look up and this thing's going, you know, 315 right down the middle. I go, oh, shit, all right. That works. I can get used to that. What would you say like the best part of your game is right now? Because obviously like, you know, everyone has their one thing.

Mine being the opposite of tripping. Like, what is your, what's your go to? Um, ball striking. You know, I'll hit the ball well. I'll drive. I'll hit it a fair. I'll have it on the green. You know, if I miss the green, I can't chip.

I can't chip for shit. Oh, man, we're going to be best friends, man. But listen, we can get together on the golf course. I had 16 greens, you know, but those three greens I hit, it's tough. So, you know, when I lay up, like, I got to that point in my game where, you know, in high school, I'm just, I could chip a little bit in high school. I was just ripping driver out in front of the green. Now I'm laying up to, it's got to be outside about 70 yards. You know, lay up outside 70 yards.

have a full shot in and uh oh man i know that game you have like a you have like a 510 power 5 or like a 520 par 5 and you could maybe go for the green and too but i'm like you know what like why don't i just take an eight iron here and get myself like a nice 120 shot in because no one needs to mess around with a 60 50 yard chip onto the green no one needs that yeah exactly yeah so it's like it's like i i can hit the bump and runs those no problem it's like the you know the 30 yard pitches. Oh, yeah. Shivered down my spine.

Yeah, it ain't for me right now. It's a nightmare. Frankie PTSD right there. Yeah, we'll have some fun on the golf course. It's a good day. I can put a little bit. It's a good day when I can hit like 16, 17 greens and don't have to worry about chipping.

And then you keep throwing out that number. I just don't know how that's like 16, 17 greens is something that's just not relatable. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When you do that, that's, like, pretty cool. Ritz-A-Drive 315, hits 16, 17, 17, we're good. 8-Und. Town Ridge, which is like a Pete Dye really hard track.

They shot like 8-Under out there. Yeah, we played law out there. That was a fun track. I loved it. Yeah. It's a cool course. What was your buddy's name again? Brian Walker.

So he's my high school teammate, my best friend back home. We play any, like, two-man best ball we play together. We played the SCGA four ball a couple years ago. We got second in that, I think. I think we shot nine, eight, nine under. So he's always my partner. He's a great four ball partner because he makes a lot of cars.

I'll make a lot of birdies and a lot of bogeys, but he's consistently in the fairway, and he'll give us that far and we need it. How does it work during the season? Like, are you able to get out and play golf during the season? Is there like a stigma around not doing that? Do you try to, like, keep it hush-hosh if you do something? No, so they know I'm a huge golfer,

everyone in the organization. They know I play golf there. I don't play on game days. I'll never play on a game day, but every single off day I'll be out there. I'll play with my hating coach, Chile Davis. He's a huge golfer. So we'll go play. You got a few other guys, Paul C. Walts, Seth Lugo, Justin Wilson.

We'll go play on some off days. But I think it helps me, you know, getting out on the golf course. And, you know, if I'm struggling at the plate, you know, go play some golf, kind of clear my mind and then, you know, get back to baseball the next day. Are they, do you find any, like, similarities in it? Like, if you're doing something in your golf game that, like, somehow inspires you to think about kind of what's going on at the plate, or is it, or that, too, just so far apart that you would never think?

I think they're pretty similar. I think, you know, being able to hit a golf, I mean, I was always small, but I could always hit a golf ball really far. You know, just, you know, the mechanics are good. You know, they would say it's not how big you are. It's, you know, how you use your body and everything. And I think golf kind of taught me how to use my body the right way, which allowed me to, you know, I think the baseball swings pretty similar.

You know, they're on two different planes, but it allows me to use my body the right way. And, you know, I was never the biggest guy on a baseball field, but I could still hit the ball, you know, pretty far. So I think they, it helped me in that way. I was just saying, I would be like, you would tend to think, I mean, you guys are at such a different level with your swings. We talk about it with professional golfers. They can, like, break down their swings to a level that I can't comprehend. And I'm sure that's the same with baseball. But, like, when I was growing up and, like, playing baseball, they were like, oh, during the season,

don't play wiffleball and like don't be hitting too many golf balls because like it's going to change the planes and stuff so like i always thought like all right if you're in that sport you just play that because it's going to mess you up but i mean as the years go on and like you see these professional baseball players they're like you guys are all sticks and you're able to still like you know hit make become batting champions and all this stuff in baseball it's like it blows my mind that you can have two swings completely different and excel in both of them it's not yeah i mean i've been doing i've been doing both my whole life so you know i've been doing both since i I was three, four years old, you know, I started.

So I think they're pretty separate for me. You know, one doesn't affect the other. I know some guys hate to play, they hate to play golf during baseball season, you know, position players. Right. They think it messes with their swing for me. It's the exact same to me. I mean, they're their own swing now.

They don't have any effect on each other. I mean, I could see like the timing, like, wiffleball, Frankie would mess up your eyes and timing everything like that, but squaring it out. up on the T, I think would make sense because you're getting your body and like rhythm and tempo and squaring up a golf ball, much like you square up a baseball, you just have to obviously match if it's a fastball change up or whatever the hell else is coming. But I do love when people use the sense to get rhythmic. When like, because I was playing at a club here with one of the pros and I was I was coming over the top on it and I was hooking a lot of them. And he's like, dude, just hit that ball to shortstop.

He's like, just throw your hands out, release your hands out, hit the ball to shortstop. And like all day long, I'm like thinking back, like I'm in a baddest box, crank it out the shortstop, just bang, like push it out. I mean, I won the match. I was playing phenomenal golf after that. Are you, Jeff, are you pretty analytical or are you more like feel? Like, do you break down kind of your swing in baseball and in golf? Or are you more like you mentioned you play a good amount of golf with your guys

like hitting batting coach? Like how technical, how intensive were those conversations? Are you more just kind of you feel it out? For the most part for baseball, I'm all kind of feel. I'll know when something doesn't feel right, I'll go back and look at a video from, you know, past weeks. Okay, where was I when I was going really well? And it's so, it's such minor things. It's, you know, where my foot is landing.

You know, I kind of cut myself off. So kind of step across the plate, you know, it's like minor things like that I see on video. As for golf, I haven't looked at a whole lot of video, you know, in the all season, it's a lot of field. Just kind of go out there and, you know, feel it out. I got one of my best friends, he's my swing coach. We'll look at a little video, but basically I just need help chipping. That's it. Your growth, brother.

I mean, I believe that because your action is, because there's some people, you know, they're like, yeah, this person's a scratch and he's kind of a celebrity or professional of this, that, and like, there's really good, like, legitimate scratch. And then there's, and then the first swing you took, it just reverberated through Pound Ridge where everybody's, like, putting it on our text group of like, oh, fuck, Jeff Mnio can play. I was on the par five, right? right? I just loved that ball. I remember that. I crushed that. I was like I got eight iron

in and then I think the next shot you guys saw me hit was on the par three. I stuck it to like two feet made that. So yeah, that was a good day. Has there ever been a tournament? Because you say you played in all these tournaments and, you know, big matches and stuff. Have you ever like had a really embarrassing first like T shot where like, you know, you step in front of everyone and you just duck hook one or skull one or? Not really. Not like the first T-shirt. You're lucky. You're a stop.

Tell the lines this to the top. The most nervous I was ever on a T-box was, it was the opening round of the U.S. Junior Amateur. It was at Trump National and Bedminster. And I'm teeing off on 10. I'm playing with Patrick Rogers, and I don't know the other guy. So I'm playing a guy on the PGA tour.

And so I'm teed up my ball. My arm is shaking. There's like 15 to 20 college coaches just sitting on the T-box watching. It's 175-yard par three with water everywhere. And I scold it. It was awful. But it was one of those good, you know, just skank it up there to, it was just on a fringe show.

It ended up working. I ended up making par. But that was, you know, it was ugly. It worked. Your version of skull is quite different from mine. I'm thinking, I'm seeing that ball skip across the water. And you're being like, oh, reaching back into the bag. Yeah, no, no, it was one-hand finish, ugly,

almost hit it off the hazel, almost hazel rocketed it. But it ended up. ended up working out. That's awesome. That's incredible. What's um what's like the biggest or like most memorable round of golf you've played? Like anything at like augusta or or around with like the president or with some like mega la star that that you were a huge fan of growing up or like what's what's a big story that sticks out for you in golf? Um so this off season I got to play Pelham Beach play Pelper Beach twice one of the days. So it was a tournament.

It was I think called the Players Cup. So there was a lot of, you know, ex-pro athletes. And Adrian Gonzalez was playing in the tournament. He was playing with, he brought Will Farrell. Oh, shit. Yeah, so I hung out. So it was a three-day tournament. Hung out with Will the first night.

It was awesome. He's a man. And I knew Adrian from the Mets. So we ended up talking. And I think it was the third day. We're playing Pebble, the final round. I think we're in the lead too, and we're on hole two. And everyone just, I think I made double, blew it out.

It was an awful hole for everyone. And we took about 20, 25 minutes, way too long on the hole. And we're already behind. So like the, we're on the third T box, which is almost like a, it's like a, one of the white T's, it's a 330-yard hole, almost reachable. And the Marshall starts yelling at us. Hey, you guys need to pick it up. You guys are behind.

And we're just like, what the, we're on the third hole. What's cool? Stop yelling at us. So I'm like, all right, fuck it. I'm just going to hit. Put tea in the ground and just bomb it right over the trees. And it lands about 10 yards in front of the green. And when we get up there, Adrian, so Adrian Gonzalez and Wilfellow playing in the group ahead of us.

And Adrian Gonzalez is all pissed you. You almost hit us. Oh, we were walking off the front of the green. You almost hit us. It was like 10 yards short of us. Like, what the fuck? And I'm like, oh, shit. Like, oh, shit, my bad.

but he goes, oh, no, you guys, I mean, you're good. Like, dude, the Marshall was yelling at us to hit. Like, he said we're a hole behind, so I just grabbed the green and almost hit him, but, you know, it was all good. It was, we had some good laughs. Dude, Marshall set you up for failure. Oh, yeah, no, he set us up for failure because, you know, he doesn't know we hit the ball that far, so I just teed up, hit.

And luckily, there was another marshal at the green, you know, on one of the other holes. And we told him, like, hey, the marshal told him, just to go, like hit and, you know, I'm sorry we almost hit you, but, you know, it wasn't our fault. We can't see the green either. You know, it's a blind T-shot. So it's so relatable too because, like, anyone that goes out to, like, a public course and you have the guys behind you, and, like, you know that you're a long hitter and you don't feel comfortable about hitting because the guys are maybe walking up to the green or whatever. And then you feel that pressure from the guys in the car. You all start rolling up and you're like, you're not saying it, but, like, you know they're, like,

look at this fucking pro up there. Like, he's going to hit the green. And you're like, well, like, if I hit it, well, I will hit the green, but I don't want to have this conversation with you. And then you hit it and you shank it or you do hit it and you hit the horrible situation. The only difference is, I don't want to talk to you. I don't want to run it up on you and like, oh, what the fuck are you doing? And I'm like, dude, I'm sorry. Like, they told me to hit.

Like, I know, I know. I would have been like, you know Will Ferrell's on that green? Like, Ricky Bobby's up there. I'm not a touch. I'm not, this ball's not going there. They were walking up in front of the green. My ball lands like 10 yards short of them. Like, I'm not trying to, you know, I'm not trying to be a, uh, a head.

or anything like that. Yeah, imagine if you end up in one of his next movies. Yeah, if you kill National Treasure Will Ferrell with a golf ball, that would have been bad. Yeah, that would have been awful. I almost hit him again on 18. Well, now this might be your fault here. They were, they were 50 yards right off the green and I was going for it. And, you know, I told I'm not missing left.

You know, I'm a lefty. So I hook it. And it rolled. I mean, it wasn't anywhere near. I'm just, yeah, never want to be in that. situation. No. So last thing before we let you go, Frankie is a huge Yankees fan and he's 100% going to talk shit about you the second that we hang on. No, I'm not going to touch it. I just, what we have is like, you know, we have this perception. My whole life, I live in New York,

so it's like half Yankee fans, half Matt fans, all my friends are Met fans, huge fans of you, obviously. So, and I think what the Mets are doing right now is great. You guys are young. You guys have the great pitching staff, the whole thing. I just always wonder like, because I'm a huge Islanders fan too. And I feel like sometimes the Islanders, Jets and the Mets, we're all just cursed, right? It's like that, it's that like bubble, right? The gyms, the gym fans. Like, do you ever, do you ever feel that around like the locker room where you guys are all like, oh, like, we have this like this persona of like being that team that like things happen bad to us? Like, no matter what happens, people are going to perceive that of us. Yeah, I mean, feel any of that

pressure? Yeah, we see it all the time, you know, on Twitter and everything and, you know, like Cindergarde, you know, just getting Tommy John and, you know, everybody like, oh, it wasn't even hurt in spring training now he's getting you know all this stuff like he was he was fine and uh you know that's just the met's luck so you know we feel it and uh you know we try to you know not listen to it i mean i don't think we're cursed or anything you know we got a good team so hopefully you know put that all behind us and you know winning championship this year beat those yankees there you go that's all you can ask for right that's a good answer i like that we needed to hear it come from someone that you didn't think you were cursed because if you said you were cursed

there's going to be some problems i think i like kevin clansy would have been hanging from or something. Oh, man. All right. Look, we know you're on a little bit of a tight schedule. You got other stuff to do. So we appreciate the time. We got to make sure once everything's a little bit back to normal,

we've got to get out, we've got to play a little bit. We'll get you in the office and do maybe, you know, something in person, a little longer chat. We can shoot the shit about golf about, you know, you guys beating the Yankees. It'll be nice. That'll be fun. Yeah, I'd love to do that. Always down to talk golf.

Hell yeah. All right, Jeff. Well, we appreciate the time. Stay safe. Hopefully we can catch up with you again soon, man. All right. Have a good one, guys. See, good.

That's a long for season. Thank you.