Fore Play - Jon Rahm Wins The Masters

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Jon Rahm wins the Masters. We react to it all, and Lurch even joins for a bit (01:07:27-01:20:06). Rahm prevailing; Brooks floundering; Phil charging; Cantlay delaying; Butler Cabin being awkward; Sah...ith smiling his way to a hole out on 16; and much, much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knites it across the green. Broads 100.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Now you've got to break 90s. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. we were you going to go. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 2999. And he grabs a hundred. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 a piece yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different?
Starting point is 00:00:43 It's saying a hobby. Four players are barstool sports. This is a 2003 master's knee jerk reaction podcast. Big congratulations to a friend of the program. John Rom, if you haven't listened yet, maybe the most universal praise we've ever gotten for one of our shows. We sat down with John Ron, myself. and Trent about a month and a half ago or so, I guess it was at this point for maybe an hour and a half. He was phenomenal. He showed up alone.
Starting point is 00:01:07 He said, you can ask me anything. He chit-chatted with us afterwards, was telling stories, laughing. He's into, what's your show there? Big Bang Theory, Trent? Big Bang Theory. That's a big win for us today. Big win for you guys. So, awesome, awesome guy.
Starting point is 00:01:22 A lot to get to. It was good versus evil. Good prevailed in the end. And we have a huge announcement. We have a huge announcement, which is that. I forgot about that. I didn't forget, but I kind of forgot. On Monday morning, you will be able to download the patch that now has the four play guys, the three of us, myself, Frankie and Trent, in PGA Tour 2K23.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Our characters are in it. We've seen them. We worked with them. We did the whole scanner. It was like 85 cameras. We had to do all kinds of different poses on our faces and our heads and our bodies and everything else. We're now, as of Monday morning, in the video game. It's unbelievable that this day has come. I mean, think about all the streams we did,
Starting point is 00:02:05 all the, all the hours that we put into that video game saying, like trying to make our players look like us. Trent spent hours trying to get khakis on his guy and like a dark shirt and maybe the glasses that would fit him. And it was everyone was so into it. Now the fact that we have our players that look exactly like us. I mean, I will say that my, guy's a little fucking buff i'm going to get some comments on the fact that my guy's looking a little muscular that's a wedding diet that's you know i'd rather go that way than the other way they could have given me like a little fucking you know milk belly and they did not thankfully but it's crazy guys it's crazy like watching videos of our guys hit the ball and like chip and react it's just us it's
Starting point is 00:02:48 like riggs looks exactly like rags trot looks exactly trit it's disgusting how crazy this actually is and yeah i'm actually at a loss of words i teared up like look like at the characters because I know everything we do everyone's like you guys should like assume that you guys are a huge brand like why do you guys act so surprised every time something like this happens to you uh we're in a video game I don't know I I don't want to be the guy that acts like he's supposed to be in a video game and if that's the if we come to that then like take me out as as Freddie couples said to Trent rinse me off your list I don't want to be a part of that right we get surprised because you know the job I had right before this one I was security
Starting point is 00:03:23 guard and they were not putting a security guard in a video game so we've just we've kind of gone through it all. We've been making videos. We've been making podcasts. We've been doing shows for a long time now. And to have something like this happen, it's still very surprising. The characters look just like us. It's an incredible honor. The other people in the in the game are like Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Steph Curry. They just put John Cena in there. And then it's the four play boys. So like it's a huge honor. We all grew up playing video game. So we know everything about them and what goes into it. So yeah, it's a huge honor. I can't believe that it's happening. So yeah, go check out the game. If you don't have it yet, for some weird reason, go download a PGA 2K23. We're in there. We're in the game as of Monday morning. So if you're listening to this Sunday night, we're not quite in yet. They're releasing that puppy in the morning.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The update, we're in it. We've seen all kinds of footage. We're going to be teasing as well of our characters. And it's very funny how they just look like us. We went hard to bat with them to make sure that our attributes were pretty accurate as well. So you can play with us and actually hit the golf ball to a degree. But we should stink. I think we pretty much stink in the game as we're supposed to.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So playing with us is probably going to be pretty damn realistic. I've seen some numbers that it's going to be, you know, difficult to play as Trent Ryan. I think Trent's power is somewhere. It's below 40%. I don't know. You're going to have to buy the game to actually see exactly where it's at. But he's pretty damn low. And I don't know what that equates to.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I do know that it's like 60% lower than Tiger Woods. So I think, yeah. Well, I remember when we did a video with Colin War, Kawa, he said, you know, if Trent's power is more than mine, I'm going to be, he's going to feel disrespected. He's safe. He's more than safe. Yeah, he doubled. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's safe. So yeah, go check out the game. Big thanks to 2K 23. They're just amazing working with us getting us in the game. And I think it's going to have some funny, some very funny clips that we're going to see of people sending us. So hell yeah, unreal, very surreal moment. Had to make that announcement,
Starting point is 00:05:20 hard to say something before we actually talk about the masters. But I'm going to say, Brooks Kevka ruined the Masters is pretty much what happened. How so? Well, if he would have put up any fight or shown any life whatsoever today, it would have been an iconic battle down the stretch of like big put, big putt, good versus evil, Tor versus live, we need Rom, Bamos, all that. He just rolled over all day today, shot 75 and ruined the Masters tournament. So for like the fourth year in a row at the Masters,
Starting point is 00:05:49 we didn't have any drama down the stretch. John Rom, basically, it was like he's playing at fucking Eisenhower down the street. He had no stress whatsoever. He's waiting on every shot. It was kind of a joke watching the last couple hours because Brooks Kepka ruined. Yeah, I mean, Brooks Kepka shot 65 in the first round, 67 in the second round. On the weekend, he shot 73, 76. So, you know, the first kind of signs of wobble were this morning.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Obviously, he missed the put first thing in the morning. There was a two-shot swing right away, which was game on. Then he hit a terrible drive on 10. He fanned one way out. 12. He hit like a shut-the-face pole. Bad, bad miss from the middle of the fairway on 14. and you started to see like, okay, this is not the same Brooks that we've seen in the last couple of days.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Meanwhile, Rom wasn't putting so well, but he was hitting it a lot better than Brooks was. And it just felt like Brooks was leaking oil all day. It felt like he wasn't going to make it. I mean, I think he made two birdies all day and they played like 29 holes or whatever it was. So, you know, he held on. It's crazy that it actually happened where it's like a live guy has the lead through 54 holes and then a live guy doesn't win the tournament. But they did have three of the top six. So it's hard to view the week as anything but a success for Liv.
Starting point is 00:06:53 But as we were talking about earlier, if Brooks had won or if Phil had won, it would have completely been a wholly different narrative. Yeah, that's true. It's, yeah, I mean, I, Phil, I thought had the best day, maybe the best tournament of a live guy. You know, and John Rom would just, he's, I think Frankie said before the tournament started, that was Frankie's pick. He's John Rom. We talk about Rory. We talk about Scotty leading up. And then we forget about this guy, John Rom, who's just at his best is the best golf from planet Earth.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And he proved that today. And he's a master's champion. Like if you're betting against John Rom or you're rooting for the person that's facing John Rom, you always consider him a problem. You're like, when is this guy just going to fuck up? And I was sick and tired of that being the case. I am sick and tired of betting against John Rom and, like, not rooting for that guy who hits the ball a mile and puts perfectly and has the best lag putts and is unbelievably
Starting point is 00:07:46 sound and efficient. I'm so sick at not having that guy in my corner. So I finally just said, fuck it. We're going John Rom this week. and he just won. And I think he's going to do that a lot in his career. This guy is poised for victory. He's just, he's like unfoldable.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Like, and physically, mentally, like, he's a bowling ball. He's a linebacker. You can't, no chance. You can't fucking get this guy off his footing. He's just solid. And the only thing that ever was against John Rom was John Rom. He was, he would get in his own head. He would get in battles with himself and his caddy.
Starting point is 00:08:22 and he would like struggle with certain things internally. But now that he's conquered that and he is just, dude, when he's walking to, like, when he's walking off a green to the next tee box, he's a fucking, he's a laser focused villain.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like, you see that in his face and he's like, he's actually making the noise. Like, I'm going to kill somebody out here. And I love that out of him. He's a killer. I think the way you feel about him where it's like,
Starting point is 00:08:47 that's the guy you're always looking at if you're betting on someone else. That's the way the players feel as well. Yeah. And I remember I was talking to Fitz about, the U.S. Open in the first day and he's like, yeah, the guy I had my eye on was wrong. It was, it was wrong because he's the one they're scared of. I think it was Eddie Pepperell who tweeted after he won, I don't remember if it was Riviera, but it's like, among the players, he's been the one.
Starting point is 00:09:06 He's been the one since he turned professional where they thought if there's going to be one guy who's going to emerge and become like truly an all-time great, it's John Rom. When he turned professional, Taylor made felt they had already signed a top 10 player in the world of day, he turned pro. He finished like fifth in his first event. He's always been a prodigy, and it finally now, feels like he's reaching his potential. Now it's four wins this year, including two designated events and the Masters.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's only April. He's already made over $13 million. So there's really no, there's no debate right now as to who the best golfer in the world is. You know, Scotty might win the next one and it might be sort of a big two emerging. But as of right now, John Rom is alone atop the golf world. And it feels right. It feels like that's what it should be. Yeah, I would say it's clearly two.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I think it's Scotty and John Rom and I, and Rory has remembered. moved himself from that. You said in the last show, Dan, you can't miss the cut of the players by a billion. Missed the cut of the Masters by a billion. It'd be considered in the top three with these guys. Rahm, obviously right now, he is the guy. He's going to go back to World Number 1 Monday morning when this thing comes out. Ford tournament wins in 2023 by April 9th. One of them being the Masters tournament is fucking unbelievable. It's his second major, the U.S. Open that he's got, which, you know, he doesn't get enough credit for that of how gutsy he was. down the stretch there, making those big putts, doing it at Tori, where he got his first tour win, where he got married there and loves it.
Starting point is 00:10:28 So going in, putting all that own pressure on himself and getting it done, the U.S. Open at Tori. And then the same thing here at the Masters, where he's been the guy this year, pretty much him and Scotty having that many wins. There was that moment where we had him on the podcast where we were, like, blown away that he wasn't number one in the world. He was number three at the time, but that's because there's been this shuffling and all that. He's obviously after you win the Masters like that and do it pretty convincingly, go up against Brooks. who had been playing extremely well and just get it done. Oh, and overcome waiting for Patrick. Fuck, you can't.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Oh, my God. Every hole for 15 minutes somehow, uh, exerting the patience to get through all that and then come out and shoot a final round. What was he two or three under in the final? 69. 69.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Really. Love that class. Uh, to do it after four putting the first hole and still shooting a seven under 65 in the first round when it looked like you kind of had to shoot a seven under 65 because Victor Hoffman had gone. so low and it looked like got you know brook keppka was going so low uh to bounce back from that and then come out and just dominate the way that he has and then the other thing i was blown away
Starting point is 00:11:32 with with john rom was that he was just hitting these draws when he wanted to today there were a few times where 13 was out of nowhere just picture him as this guy that only hits cuts and he you know he almost he he he and i and i get the guys have their their go-to ball flight everybody does we all understand that but he seemed like a guy that exclusively was not playing the card like JT or JT hits all these shot shapes, whatever. He was almost like in the DJ school of thought from 2020 where DJ was like, I'm just going to hit a one yard cut basically on every hole. And then they got the yellow tracer at Augusta up against the green grass, which is beautiful. And on nine, Trevor made a comment.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Trevor was like, okay, based on his ball position of how he's got the club head sitting here, I think he was going to try to draw this one. He hit a fucking sick draw down the left side on the 9th. Fairway and then he did the same thing again on 13 and doing that under pressure. Being able to change your ball fight from that little baby cut to like a strong draw under pressure with the driver, the Masters with Brooks Kepka, standing next to you. And after you've waited for 45 minutes, the tee off is fucking unbelievable. So he just is so impressive.
Starting point is 00:12:39 John Rob is so impressive. And he did it from swimming upstream. The numbers say that basically he had the wrong end of the draw by two and a half shots. The guys who didn't have to come back and finish their round yesterday morning when it was just horrific. thick outside. That was like a two and a half shot advantage. So he wins a tournament by four, like you said, despite four putting the first green and despite being in the wrong wave, really, really convincing in the end. And I just think how tired mentally that guy must be. They played 29 holes today. It was him and Brooks the whole time. It was a two horse race basically
Starting point is 00:13:10 the whole time until it became a one horse race. And like you said, how much patience for a guy who isn't the most patient person in the world to have to sit there and wait on every single Shia, it took them like four hours and 50 minutes to play as a twosom. He was a problem. You know, we've been part of the Chevy EV family, but we've got big news. The first ever all electric Silverado is the official barstool's most valuable truck. We got the chance to see this thing and experience it, and it is a game changer. It's facts.
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Starting point is 00:15:20 but I saw like Zey or Golf from one of those accounts put up that on 15 and 16. They had just like the camera just on the guys the entire time as they were standing on the T-box. and you can see from the picture of that rum and uh and brooks were just doing like like steaming mad at this guy just fucking pacing off every pot and looking around and taking fucking 30 minutes to drain literally nothing you didn't make a put all day i mean Patrick cantlay had a chance to win the masters today the guy was constantly putting for birdie and had all these chances you're like wait a minute this guy's only this guy's seven under and he's only on the eighth hole like this guy could just rattle off a couple of birdies and then he would just three hours later be the
Starting point is 00:15:59 like six under and you're like what's wrong with this guy get him off the golf course he's not gonna win just give him his check and that's it let these guys finish up it was it was one of the more shocking things I ever seen how long how long that was taking 16 was painful oh my god think that at that point you're like okay I know that the the daylight's running out I'm not going to win this tournament maybe I'll speed it up a little bit it's it to the front right of the green and we were in the media center people were groaning they were like he he still hasn't hit this pot he's it's unbelievable that was worst thing it could have happened was he hit at that short right on there because that putts already impossible.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Then he does the whole circle the whole time. Then he waggles his feet 400 times. It's just like, dude, let's fucking go. And I, and you know, look, I get it.
Starting point is 00:16:39 You're playing for so much money. And like, I'm not saying you have to like go as fast as Brooks Kebka. But early on in the cut, you know, once you, and this always happens where like when you're watching featured group stuff, they bounce around.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And it's, but once it starts to hone in on a on a two man race, four man race, they start to just show obviously all of the antics of just a couple people and how fast Brooks Kebka plays, he must be infuriated out there. Like I, like John Rom's worked so hard in his mental game that I feel like he's probably got exercises or tactics or something to help him deal with it so that like you don't build up all this extra anxiety and all this extra frustration because that's not going to lead
Starting point is 00:17:16 to like smooth good golf swings. But Kebka must be, he must have been furious because he's so fast. His transcript just came out. The first question from the press conference was, you're a pretty fast player. as we know. Curious your thoughts on Pace of Play this afternoon. He said, yeah, the group in front of us was brutally slow. John went to the bathroom like seven times during the round and we were still waiting.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It was bad. I might be the wrong thing. He goes to the bathroom. He's like hanging out. Who knows? When it comes to Pace of Play, though, as long as it's within the rules, I get that like, it's brutal to be slow, but like why would anyone cater to just Brooks playing fast? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:53 So it is like weird that like if, if Cantlay's process just, takes him longer. Like, why is that the, I guess just the way the world works, we want it to just be the faster version. But like, why is his acceptable and the other guys is not? You know what I mean? Like Brooks plays out of control fast and Can'tley plays out of control slow. Why is like, why is Brooks not the asshole for just like constantly pushing the pace and
Starting point is 00:18:14 moving on? It's like, dude, relax. We're like trying to win the masters here. I guess, but the one guy who's going fast is winning the master. I know. I know. I'm just saying like there's got to be like a common ground where it's like one guy's going outrageously fast.
Starting point is 00:18:25 The other guy's going slow. Like can't they both kind of be to blame for that. situation for their being frustration. It's just like the public perception is everyone's played behind somebody slow. And it's right. That's the guy who's going to get the short end of the stick and have nobody's going to like that guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:38 And I, you know, in, in normal, uh, scenarios, I agree with you, Frankie, where it's like, I, you know, you don't need to be the jackass on every hole in the middle of fairway and on every tee leaning on your club, right? Doing like the, the club lean thing of like, oh, it's going. You're leaning on your club. That just makes everybody's day miserable too. then when you're in front of those kinds of people, you're not comfortable,
Starting point is 00:19:00 you're anxious and you really just want to be comfortable. Having said that, we all root for faster play, not slower play. And as a two-sum, like you're saying, almost five hours to play as a twosome, that is fucking stunning.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Like, that is just stunning. So he's got to figure that. I think Hovlin I saw too, was doing some pretty, like, wild antics, too, of how frustrated he was.
Starting point is 00:19:20 He was, like, scurrying around, trying to be like, this guy, he was like going to hitting T shots, I think, like, while Cantley was still punted out, but basically have T&R,
Starting point is 00:19:28 So he was just slowing everybody up. But, you know, I will say that there's, you know, I think watching that, I think there's definitely a point to be made that like Brooks wasn't handling that well. Like, take your time, dude. If you know you're going to be waiting on every shot, like come up with something to do it differently. You know, don't pick your club until it's like your turn to hit so that you kind of like slow it down a different way rather than like play your shot really quick and then just wait for 10 minutes every time. It's not the first time. It doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Yeah, it's not the first time it's bothered. And remember at the Akeowa, Phil was kind of slow playing him as a tactic. Yeah. And he said afterwards. And it worked. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Yeah. He said, too. So if you can use that to your advantage, fucking do it for sure. But it's not like Cantley. If Cantley was like playing with Brooks and he was doing that, I would kind of enjoy that. That'd be kind of funny. But he's just playing in front of him and like not playing fast. So it was tough.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Everybody gets upset with that, especially when they just showed about a minute and a half straight clip it felt like of those two just standing on the 16th D like just waiting for things to happen. it was weird. But speaking of weird, Butler Cabin, we get it every year. The fact that they do this Butler Cabin jacket thing is so fucking bizarre. It's so weird.
Starting point is 00:20:39 It's so awkward. There's no way for it not to be awkward. Everybody's miced up in this tight little cabin. You can hear every single thing. They like put the jacket on the other guy and they're like putting each, yeah, arms on like, or hands on each other's shoulders. And it's just fucking weird, man.
Starting point is 00:20:57 I had mentioned to you guys before we started doing the podcast that my childhood memories only, I only have memories of them doing the outdoor jacket ceremony. And that's how it should be because they do it twice. They do it in the Butler cabin. And then they go outside, Rom takes it off, gives it back to Scottie and Scotty puts it back on him. That's outrageous. Just do one of them and get rid of the Butler cabin part because that part is awkward as shit. Yeah. It is.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Do the one on the putting. You know what's and not a person I feel. feel the most awkward for is Scotty Sheffler because they go around the room and they're complimenting Sam Bennett, who had a great week and gained all these fans and had just an amazing week. And then they go to Rom and Rom's obviously the master's champion, had a great week. And Scottie's just sitting there with a folded jacket in his lap, just like, all right, I just got to put this jacket on this guy. And then I'm going to get the fuck out of here. It's so weird. He could just lay like Scotty's probably like, what if I just before the ceremony, I'll just lay the jacket here and then you guys just put it on whenever you want. Like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:21:57 I'm going to go home. I just want to get the fuck out of here. I mean, I do like the guy putting the jacket on the other guy, but there's got to be a better way to do the whole thing. He can't need to do it over and over again all day. He should be able to be, you know, just one time, put it on him, done. So I completely agree with you on that. Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods with Drew this morning,
Starting point is 00:22:15 I think one of the great no-brainers of all time, a guy made the cut. He extended that streak. He's never missed the cut as a pro in the Masters tournament. Even though he plays like two tournaments a year now, he still shows up, still makes the cut, the clip from yesterday, we're recording this on Sunday, from yesterday of him hobbling around on the 17th hole, whatever in the rain. One of the more alarming things I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Clearly, his planter ficiitis situation combined with his ankle was as bad as it could possibly be. I imagine he goes through weeks like that where it's just everything acts up at the same time, and it's bad, and he has other weeks where he looks pretty good. If you remember, there were a couple different events last year that he showed up where he walked pretty damn well. And even at Riviera, I felt like he walked pretty damn well the whole time. He goes through stretches where it's not good, the weather, everybody knew that coming in. Cold when you got all kinds of fucked up joints and bones and ankles and pieces of metal holding your ankle together. Cold, not good.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Rain, not good. Wind, not good. So he woke up and clearly just withdrew. No brain or decision. But obviously, we would like him to look a little bit healthier when he's walking around. He was walking pretty well at the first couple days this week because it was warm out. 29 holes for a guy with a bionic right leg is probably not going to happen. I would venture to guess that Tiger has not played more than 18 holes in one day since the accident.
Starting point is 00:23:32 So just that alone, like asking that guy to walk 29 holes on this golf course, which, as you guys know from being here, it's haleyer in person than it is on TV. That's the number one thing that people say. It's the number one cliche. I can't believe how hilly it is. I think if it was 80 degrees, that would have been a really hard ask. So nothing to prove. wasn't going to win the tournament, obviously doesn't need the money.
Starting point is 00:23:54 He's on to, uh, he's on to Rochester. I like it. I like this new like if I'm not going to win, I'm out of here. If, if Tiger's not going to win, just leave, dude, just leave. You don't have to. And then I saw people when he was playing the bad weather on Saturday, whichever day, people were saying he's a professional. Look at him out there.
Starting point is 00:24:10 He doesn't have to be out there. He's got nothing to prove. He doesn't need any more money. He's out there because he knows that's the right thing to do. I would do the opposite. If he's, if he's definitely not going to win, get out of there. but it's going to be like, oh, Tiger, you're not sticking it out. No, that's not going to be the perception.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Now, him withdrawing gives Tiger haters a little bit of ammunition being like this guy, he shouldn't even be playing anymore. He's got to withdraw when he can't walk these courses. But I like it. If he's so far out of it and the weather's so bad and he's injured to a degree that we can't understand, just get out of there, dude. We're not going to judge you any different. It'd be amazing.
Starting point is 00:24:43 He's like, he's like on 16 green or something and he sees like the leader, John Rahm, like Eagles 15 behind him. And he's like, I would draw. I'm a player withdrawal. That might start a new trend. Guys might just start doing that. All these guys are so rich. And if they know,
Starting point is 00:24:59 if they only want trophies, they're like, what, I'm 10 shots out of it. I got this. I'm out of here. This, I'm not doing this anymore.
Starting point is 00:25:05 If we're getting to this style of Tiger Woods, where it's like, it's either win or go home and it's like he, he would be able to compete, but he can't walk. Just give the guy a golf cart. We've already gotten past the integrity of this guy's fucking career. I know we keep bringing this up.
Starting point is 00:25:19 You just got to give it to, him who no one cares about the integrity of his career in the game and he doesn't want it he doesn't he just i know we got to give him the we got to convince him we got to convince him he won't take it we have to convince him to take the golf cart because his his like his like the history of tiger woods and everything that we're going to remember him is already like all over the place like the guy like when you talk about like him versus jack i think i didn't play for like 10 years he's like apparently even like we let's just give this guy a golf cart like in septum in his brain that no one cares about the legacy if he finished his career with a golf cart.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He's going to win like five tournaments that this guy is just being motorized from the T-box of the green. That's what he'll be remembered by. It won't be like, how did he get there? They don't even show that on the TV. I actually agree with what you're saying because if you follow the logic that he has with the cart where he's like,
Starting point is 00:26:08 it goes against, you know, the game and how I want to play it. So does withdrawing from every tournament where you can't finish. We've entered like a new realm of Tiger Woods where he's like not even playing the game of golf. so let's just, let's just incept in his brain that that's okay. Like, let's just continue that.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Let's continue this weird version of like, like an arcadey version where you only play the majors that you can walk flat land on. And then when you don't play well, you're just like withdraw and you leave. That's not real golf anyway. So just take the cart from the T-box to the green. You're going to win. You're going to win is what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:26:40 You're going to win it. Can you just imagine Tiger and his Sunday red coming around that corner on 18 in a golf cart. He'll put the shades on for sure. Dude driving in an easy go right up 18 Like wouldn't you rather And this is the question To him it's no But wouldn't you rather do that
Starting point is 00:26:56 And seriously compete and be in the mix As opposed to withdrawing on Sunday morning of the third Like when the third round's still in progress Like I don't know man I think you just take the cart And this is my opinion I think Tiger Woods is sitting home saying like I my swing is he beat Rory Macroy this week
Starting point is 00:27:15 Like he beat fucking some of the best golfers Justin Thomas. Justin Thomas. I think this guy is going to come around to this. He's going to be like, why am I giving up? What? Why am I giving up?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Why am I giving up? I have one life to live. He has one life to live. He's still hitting the ball 330 yards. He's one of the greatest golfers in all the time. He has a legacy he wants to pursue. Why is he giving up just because of all this shit that happened to his like? He has an option that he thick, that everyone around him.
Starting point is 00:27:41 Joey La Cava, by the way, was that like an approved thing? I mean, our guy, Joey, like, talked to like the New York Post. Did you guys see that? It was like the whole thing. It was in the beginning of the week. It was like all these Joey Likava quotes about like Tiger can't walk this golf course. Yeah. If it wasn't the masters, he wouldn't be playing.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I was like, whoa, that was fucking crazy. I mean, that has to be approved. There's no way Joey's calling outside of the lines. Like, you know, he's not going to take the card. It's a whole like if he could cart this, he'd like win. It's just like, do it. Yeah. He said in his press conference, he was like, you know, just three more years until I get a cart.
Starting point is 00:28:11 And so I think he is going to play the champion store. I think he's going to fucking dominate in a cart. Like, I think he's going to win a. a bunch of a bunch of tournaments, but I'm really interested in Riggs that you think he's going to come around because he has said so many times I'll never do that. I'll never do that. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:25 I think to Frankie's point, I think, dude, it's probably if it's, if it's frustrating us so much, think about how much it must be frustrating. Think about how he can hit the ball with over 180 mile an hour ball speed. He can make cuts,
Starting point is 00:28:38 no problem. He can hit all the shots. He plays really well and he probably does at home. He can just go take those guys money, no problem. And here he, has a solution that's like, no, no, you can do all that, except just take a cart in between shots. And I think that he honestly might like, like, Frankie just said, like, if he's running out
Starting point is 00:28:57 of the other options, then this is just the only option at some point. Like, if you know what I'm saying? The other players, if you pulled the other players and you said, are you okay with Tiger Woods taking a card? Silent poll. So their vote, their votes don't become public because they wouldn't want to cross Tiger in public. But it's a silent poll. Okay. What's the breakdown between yes and no? I think it's 75% yes I think it's higher I think it's way higher With all they be some assholes
Starting point is 00:29:22 You think they just be fine With this one guy just getting to take a cart I mean do they Yeah because guys have gotten cart Before John Daley John Daley is like the most lovable guy ever Everyone's like oh take your cart And who knows what else is in there
Starting point is 00:29:33 And you just go play Go play he's not a threat Well that's like picking and choosing on like If you think they're gonna win or not It's just like is that guy allowed to have a cart You know what I mean? But there's never been anyone in contention To win a major championship in a cart
Starting point is 00:29:44 That's never, I think Tiger would do a modification of the card. He'd take the cart in like certain scenarios. Not three wheels? No, like I think you'd still see him walk up. I think you'd still see him walk up the 18th. I think you'd still see him walking down the fairway in certain parts. I think like Joey would take the cart in a lot of spots.
Starting point is 00:30:02 But it would help him get through like the thick of the golf course. You know what I mean? I think he'd pick and choose. You wouldn't see Tiger walking up the 18th hole at fucking Augusta in a golf cart. You would not see him rolling slowly next to Brooks. the wheel and then he decides when he wants to take it. He's not like Robbie, go up. I think it'd be in spots up.
Starting point is 00:30:19 We don't even realize it. Joey carries the bag and Rob just drives the car. Yeah. Yeah. So he's got two guys out there. Yeah. Dude, I'll go out there too. We'll get three or four of us out there.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I don't get, we'll carry him around the golf course. I still think that might be. You get a, uh, you get a guy like the rock size who's just his cat. The hotel. The guy just carry him. Yeah. Carries him after every shot. You just hop on, buddy.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And he just carries him to every shot. No, because that's, far more like, I don't know if sorry, we're demeaning than just a cart. Like if someone carries him like a baby, of course. Okay, Tyga, see you in a little bit. No, no, no. I like, let's just, how about every, let's do this. Give the whole field carts.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Give everybody cards. Wow. Now we're, now we're just carting everywhere. I'm just saying like that'll show Tiger that there's no difference. Like if, if everyone's solidarity. Yes. Just take a cart and then if he finishes first, like, oh, I'm going to keep taking. He said he never take a card.
Starting point is 00:31:10 He also probably would have said he never would have flown off of a fucking cliff going 80 miles an hour and not hitting the break. So I mean, this guy is an unwritten book that's still being written. And you just don't know what the next page is going to show. And I think that next page is going to say he's going to start taking a cart because the swings there. What drives me crazy is like he's just not healthy. And you see all these clips from just 2019 with all the back fused and how good he was playing.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You just want him to be that. And you look at guys that are older than him, Phil Mickelson. We got to talk about Phil Nicholson. We mentioned it earlier on the show. The guy shoots a 65 today. He hadn't done that in 27 years. He matches his lowest. And now it's the lowest for the age group that he's in.
Starting point is 00:31:47 He's the oldest and lowest of all time at Augusta National. Phil Mickelson with his wild see-through sunglasses that he just looks like a lunatic. And the guy is hard to look at right now, but he's a fucking problem out there. Phil Mickelson looks like he shaved like 20 years off of his life somehow, some way, through all this bullshit and all this stress and drama. I think it's probably what it is. Well, he's thriving. Phil Mickelson on the golf course is thriving.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, Phil's back, man. He's back this week. He was back, cracking jokes and everybody. He's 52. He's 52. So he's now won a major championship. He's now won a major championship at 51 and finished second at 52. This was his 10th top three finish at the Masters.
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Starting point is 00:34:42 My main takeaway from Phil and it's with the live guys in general, but Phil in particular, I miss these guys. I miss Phil. I miss having Brooks around. I miss having Patrick Reed around. I miss having, the villains, dude. There's no bad, man.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Everyone's so happy and so nice now. But someone tweeted that at us. Like, when do you, like, they're still here. Someone tweeted at me being like, uh,
Starting point is 00:35:02 this is why I live sucks. I miss seeing these guys compete with the best in the world. It's like, they're doing it right now. They're all playing. You see it four times here instead of, yeah, but a couple times a year instead of like all the time.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I know, but like we never really got chew stuff for the fucking 3M and like Phil playing against Brooks at the three. Like I still. Like the Phoenix. open we're always into the farmers are always into the memorial we're into like that's what those guys show up against each my job it's great
Starting point is 00:35:25 I'm saying that like seeing Phil do the thumbs up to the mix the odds of them always being in the mix the odds of them always being in the mix all the time is like slim to numb but it is nice to see them all together it'd be like watching a Marvel movie with no Thanos there's no villain so now everybody's happy and safe golf is like if they just have a bad week like Thanos doesn't even show up
Starting point is 00:35:42 in that movie like so it's different but there's just an inner like we're talking about the the game as a whole is entertainment product. And these are key players in the entertainment part of it that we just don't get weekend and week out anymore because they're just not there. And that stinks. Even Brooks Kepka, like even the hate towards Brooks Kepka or the negativity towards Brooks Kepker, Brooks's faces he's making while Patrick Ketley's taking 45 minutes. Like even if Brooks is in 42nd in a PJ tour of it that week, that's just entertainment and content and that guy being out there, comments that he
Starting point is 00:36:12 makes to the media. And that's him and Reed and and Phil and Bubba and all these guys. Bryson. Yeah, Bryson, who's a content machine that just don't really exist anymore. And I get that you can watch them, but it's in a silo. It's in their own league against their own, you know, folks. It's not intermingled with everybody else. And that's just a damn shame because I did miss these guys more than I thought. When Phil was given his stupid thumbs up while making birdie after birdie today and charging up the leaderboard, it was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:44 And when he stood there on 18 after he closed out, he gave a, he gave a, he gave a, putter, raise, walk as he made his putt on the 72nd hole in his dumb little Phil Fist pub. And then him and his brother stood there with that smug look on their faces as the other guys were finishing out. Like, that was fucking awesome. So I did miss them. I'm, I, the live guys, three of the top six, I believe were live finishers. I think what, like 14 of 18 guys or made the call. 12 of 18. 12 of 18 guys made the cut. So if anybody, I saw somebody else trying to to spin it a little bit being like, well, this just proves that the live guys don't care about live events and don't even really play that hard weekend and week out.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And then they come to the masters and they actually care about something and they play way harder. I don't give a shit what it is. What a showing for Liv overall. Like I know, I don't think it's going to change the ratings or I don't, you know, who knows, like all the actual results from that. But in terms of Liv coming in this week and dispelling folks being like they don't really play at a competitive level. They don't play 54 holes.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Yeah, Brooks didn't help that whole. They don't play 72 holes. They play 54. Brooks kind of let up after the, you know, after so many holes. But overall, Liv, numbers we just ran. What a show from the Liv crew this way. Right. What Liv has really done and the PJ Tour contributes to this is it's just given people more
Starting point is 00:38:00 things to argue about. It's like, oh, I'm a live guy. I'm a PJ tour guy, which if you're on either side of that, it's weird. I know there's a lot of conversation about all of that. But what is endlessly true, unequivocally true is that if all these guys were together, it'd be more entertaining. That's it. Like, regardless of who you like.
Starting point is 00:38:16 and what side you're on and whatever you want to yell at everybody on Twitter about, if all these guys played together and the tension exists the way that it did before these guys left, it's a better product. That's it. Yeah. The one thing that I will say about Live, though, is that this week proves they have great golfers and guys who can compete at the highest level. But it doesn't mean shit for the teams.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And again, I've said this so many times on this podcast, but their whole model is the teams. And Brooks is the number one guy who doesn't give a fuck about the teams. There was a guy, he won the tournament. last week in the Torque, the team that won, the Hispanic team, were like popping bottles behind him. They wanted to kill them. Like, their whole, their whole business model is dependent on, on this team thing and making golf into a team sport.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And this week shows that they have great players, but it doesn't do anything for the team concept. The interesting part about that is that, you know, the Formula One thing, right, is the, what they're trying to, they get the most comparisons to it. Like, they're trying to create the Formula One of golf. Formula One isn't really, when you look at the actual, drivers, players in this situation,
Starting point is 00:39:19 there's not really a team thing either. Like, those guys hate each other. Like, almost all of them. There's like drama and rivalries between them. And they're like forced to celebrate with the other guy because there's this crazy dynamic of that's the only guy you can truly be compared against because you're driving the same car. He's the only guy that's driving the same car.
Starting point is 00:39:37 So if that guy's better than you, that he's just better than you. Whereas if you're anybody else, if you're Lewis Hamilton right now, you can argue that like the Red Bull guys just have a better car. Our car sucks. That's why I suck. you don't have that dynamic. And so what's what will be interesting about the team aspect for golf going forward is that like I don't know that it needs to be cultivated like a hockey team or a football
Starting point is 00:39:58 where it's like truly a fucking team guys, guys like that that inner strife and fighting and whatnot within a team in Formula One makes it insanely compelling. And so if you get a little bit of that in golf, like if you get a little bit of like, dude, we could have gotten paid $10 million more dollars, but coming down the stretch, you fucking, you doubleed two holes in a right. What do you, you know, if you get some inner stuff, I think that that team aspect, like the concept of taking a very individualistic sport, insanely individualistic, and then just making people play on a team together is kind of chaotic.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Like that's chaos. Yeah. And I mean, the difference is that in Formula One, the team provides like the hardware. They, they make the car. So I don't really know how you would have that sort of situation in golf. And also the team competition in live events is the money is so much less than the individual one. So it's like it's so strange that they've staked their whole future on this team concept. But then they don't put the team concept front and center.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Front and center is the individual competition. The team thing is going on at the same time. They're not playing head to head except for that one event at the end of the year, which was actually pretty decent, the one that they had at Trump last year where it was like, you know, Cam Seth was playing Phil and it actually mattered. They need to have more of the team versus team thing if they're ever going to have. Oh, we lost Dan Rappaport. I also think...
Starting point is 00:41:17 See you later, Dan, we lost you for a second there, Dan. I also think, and Brooks kind of alluded to this a couple of days ago during a press conference where he's got to be thinking like, man, that was fun. That was really fun out there today. And this whole weekend. And Phil may be thinking the same. I don't know how Phil thinks.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That's a hard one to think about. But Brooks for sure is like, this is what I love doing. When I'm healthy, this is what I love doing. So now he's going to go back to whatever the next live event. is and it's just there's going to be nobody there the competition is not going to be there and he's just really rich yep yeah i think so too i think once you're in the arena like that that you love that that and i think that you you know that's what those guys crave that's what makes them happy day in and day out that's what they work for their entire lives so i'm sure getting that taste of it yeah it's
Starting point is 00:42:03 the biggest arena that we got so it's going to be more amplified but they got to be like that yeah that was fucking awesome playing and that i i enjoyed every second of it and i want to get that taste as much as possible. Speaking of that. That taste, right, though, right? Like, I feel like we're missing the whole point. Like, they are. They are getting the taste.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Like, you really think that the guys on the PG tour, like, man, I can't wait to get to fucking New Orleans and play the Zura Classic. That's going to be, there's going to be a juice in the air. Tournaments we just brought up. Like, when you were at the players championship, when you were at the Phoenix Open, you were like, that's the best tournament in the world. 100%. But you guys are nitpicking, like, I'm saying, like, he's still, like, he did.
Starting point is 00:42:39 He's going to be able to play in the masters. He's going to be able to play the things he's always wanted to play in. the Open and the U.S. Open and the PGA, you're still going to be able to, like, you're saying, like, he, like, gave that up. He's only exempted the Masters through 24, unless he gets in on his ranking, on his world ranking. How many designated events are there? Eight. That's already double the amount that they're going to be playing, like, with the ones that matter. And you put eight on top of the majors.
Starting point is 00:43:01 It's just like, we have to step back. I mean, you're saying, like, next week, you're just going to go to, like, live and, like, no one's going to care. It's like, well, next week's, like, what's the next week for the P. RBC Heritage is a designated event, which is psycho. The fact that they have one of designated event the week after the Masters when everyone's coming down. That is crazy. I didn't even know that. But I was thinking, I mean, like, you just go down in New Orleans, you play the Zurich.
Starting point is 00:43:19 It's like a team event. It's just like, I don't even, like, I don't know. It's not like we're going hooting and hollering and like Brooks is going to be like. Even the lowest, whatever you want to go, however low you want to go, like the, of the atmosphere, I would imagine is much better at the lowest event than whatever live event that they're going to. For sure. I'm just saying, like, I do think that this proved that these guys that went for the money, which they clearly did. and they went for just like whatever reasons that they went for, but mainly the money, they were able to get everything that they really wanted.
Starting point is 00:43:47 You know what I mean? They didn't care with the PJ choice. That's why they left it. So now they get to just like, until the world rankings run out. Until the world rankings run out for sure. But I'm just saying like, Brooks Kepka's just like successfully getting the stuff that he wanted.
Starting point is 00:43:57 He like got that fucking piece of that pie that he's been missing. He wanted that for now. For sure. And I mean, you would hope that for their sake and for golf sake that the best golfers in the world can can always play together at the, in the majors. but and in the rider cup and in the rider
Starting point is 00:44:12 cup we need everything they want if that happens they didn't care about the PG choice why they left so like you get to give them that and you get to give them the majors it's like they get that fucking feeling four times a year and with the rider cup if they do it that's fucking fine enough unless they change the criteria it's getting harder and harder for them to get into the majors that's what it is but that would ruin golf is what that would be like that won't ruin golf
Starting point is 00:44:33 then you're losing out on whatever we had how many the top three guys or however many of the live guys were in the top? Do you think if they'd eliminate those guys from the from the majors that wouldn't ruin golf? I think that would ruin up for sure. So you think if there was no Brooks this year and no Phil that wouldn't have changed anything? I think time. I think everything moves on.
Starting point is 00:44:52 The talent pool is way bigger in the majors always than like you're going to lose five guys. But after seeing Brooks finished second. It's tough. It's tough. It's tough. Yeah, I guess so. No, I'm saying I agree with you, Frankie. I'm saying after seeing a guy finished second, if you have a master's next year where Patrick Reed,
Starting point is 00:45:07 I mean, he's in because he's won it forever. but if, you know, if Brooks isn't in it in two years and he finished second two years ago, it's like, well, yes, it's all, it's the most of the best players in the world, but Brooks isn't here. And this year, they were fine because most of the guys had their exemptions from last year, from winning majors. But if this continues and they keep on going by the world rankings, and they don't change the criteria for getting into majors, we're eventually going to have a situation where there are major champions and major championships. And it's like, that guy should be here. They might not let them in because of the point I'm making.
Starting point is 00:45:36 They're getting everything they want. Look, I think that it's a little bit crazy to be like they don't want to play in a PGA tour-like environment more often. And that doesn't affect these people's lives at all. Like Brooks Kepkin himself last week said like, yeah, if I was playing the way that I'm kind of feel like I'm playing now, I don't think it would have been that easy of a decision to go to live golf, but I wasn't. So I went to live. I think like that those guys play what, Dan, 18 events a year or something like that? 14.
Starting point is 00:46:05 The DJ tour. No, I'm talking about BJTor guys play how many events a year? 18, 20, 22. Yeah, around there. So four of those are majors. That's another 15 to 20 events a year that that'd be like telling a hockey guy. Like, okay, you're going to you're going to only be able to play really in like the Stanley Cup finals and the rest of the year you play in like an East Coast League environment. It's like, you make $150 million, which is now we're just going over like these guys decisions they made for the last two years moving over.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Well, that's what we're talking about. What I'm right. What we're saying is like, are they after getting a taste of the? the Masters is a part of them being like, man, I wish I had this electric environment more often like they have on the PGA tour, like when we went to the Phoenix Open and you said it was better than PGA championship, like when we went to the players championship. And we said this event is fucking incredible. I love being here.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Look at this club out's psychotic. And instead, they only get that four times a year. And that might be being taken away for them to a degree going forward. So I think like 18 times a year versus four times a year is a massive difference, I think. Yeah. I mean, they made. that decision. I think that they knew that going in. And I think that, you know, seeing how well they performed and I'm seeing the way that they're finishing in this master's, I don't know how they
Starting point is 00:47:18 don't see that as a success for them this year. They get all that money from Liv. They get to go do whatever the hell they want. They were they literally, they willingly left the PJ tour. And now they get to have the greatest feeling of all time, like pursuing a green jacket and playing in majors. If that stays, I just don't see how that's not compelling to people. So that's the only question. They also didn't What it was going to feel like. They had no idea what Liv was going to look like. They were just like, yeah, I'm going to take all this money. I don't know what the events are going to look like.
Starting point is 00:47:45 So I don't know what I'm going to be missing out on when I do when I'm not allowed to play in these PG tour events. And now here I am. And they were told that there was no chance that the band was going to hold up in court. And there's no way that the world ranking are going to shut us out. You know, Liv told these agents like, we're going to cover your legal fees. We're going to win. It's going to sort itself out. And it's still Mike.
Starting point is 00:48:03 You know, the world ranking stuff is still pending. And I think they should get world ranking. point. I mean, I just don't see how you can, how that, yeah, the argument of like, this is exhibition. It just looks a lot weaker than it did. And I understand that they've set these criteria, you know, about they have to have a minimum amount of players. But those, that criteria was made in a pre-lived world. We're now in a live world. And if your job is to rank the best players in the world, how can you willfully ignore these tournaments where three of the top six players and the masters are playing? Crazy to me. No, I agree. They should, they, I think they have a better case now than ever
Starting point is 00:48:35 about being real ranking points. And I think that they probably will because clearly they have a lot of elite world-class golfers playing on the Liv tour. I think, and I think, look, Liv clearly is having an impact because we're talking about it a bunch after the Masters tournament. So clearly they're having an impact. I think overall, like this is a great week. Like I said, for them, for their whole thing, Greg Norman must be pumped.
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Starting point is 00:51:27 back into grinding it out in the amateur ranking. So awesome, awesome performance, the entire story with his dad and the tattoo and him really for the first half of the tournament. It looked like he wasn't going to go anywhere. And there's all the ghosts of Bobby Jones and of amateur golf and Augusta and the crow's nest. and how much they've always championed amateur golf up to the Augustine National Women's Amateur and just always being amateur, amateur, and then having an amateur have one of the better finishes in a major championship in a really, really long time was just fucking incredibly impressive. Did he lose any of you guys over the week?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Like just likeability or no? Honest opinion. So I was going to talk about this. He's cocky. And I like it because I, you know, we talk about a crazy cock. crazy cock i mean the ridgewood comment was insane he's played hard at golf course it's just like who the fuck is this it's like that was crazy he had three subtle daggers at augusta while he was sitting they brought him into the press center the first yeah he goes i mean ridgewood it's not just that he said it's the
Starting point is 00:52:26 way he said he goes ridgwood i mean harder in this place i'll tell you that much crazy comment and then the the member next to him kind of looks and i'm like oh geez and then he and then he goes um yeah you know they didn't credential my agent this week i don't know if they're not caught up with nil but I thought that was weird, which was another dig at Augustin National. And then he goes, yeah, I played in a college tournament at Floridian last week. And those greens are significantly faster than the greens here. I mean, like, Bryson called at a par 67 and we all fucking like, we never wanted to see him again. And this guy's out here basically saying Gus was like a dog track.
Starting point is 00:52:59 He's like I played way harder at golf courses. And it's crazy. He's like, this is a walk in the park for me. I played last week. The greens were way harder. So this is just the easiest course ever. So, yeah, next question. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:53:10 What are you talking about? I envy being that young and that that confident, I will say. That's just a young guy who's just like. So it's just perception about him being young and, you know, it's like when someone else says it, it comes off super cocky and like dickish. But when he said, he's just like a young, cock sure kid. Yeah. I don't know where I fall on him.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I definitely like the story. The dad stuff was incredible. He was a fucking really fun to watch on the first couple days, obviously starting out, like the way that he would just come out of the gates. You're like, this guy is going to win this thing. It was really fun. And then, like, as the week went, it just, you know, it just kind of picked away. I was starting to see, you know, peel back the onion a little bit. You see this guy's kind of like a loose cannon out there.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Maybe that's a good thing. I don't know. Maybe it's a good thing. I don't know. A lot of logos. A lot of logos. Gone are the days when, when the amateurs would show up, you know, in their college logos. Oh, or maybe like all white and then the Gus the National hat.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I mean, this guy had Johnny O and Veritex Bank and this nutrition company and ping on both sides. I'm like, get your money. 100% get your money. I mean, he would have made a couple hundred grand this week if he was a pro. I'm sure he made a decent amount of money because his agent probably said he won the U.S. amateur, which means he's going to be paired with the defending champion, Scottie Shepter, which means he's going to be on TV a lot. So good for him for getting his money, but it's just like, it's funny when you see the amateurs have as many logos as the pros.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It's like, so, I mean, what is it being an amateur really, really mean at this point? Where does the winnings go? So I think it gets redid up. Yeah, it just gets redistributed. Yeah. Redist. There's never an option where he could like. take like let's say he finished him first and got three million dollars you couldn't take it and just
Starting point is 00:54:42 give it to texas an ann m or anything no i can't i don't think you can uh like during the middle donate it no i don't think it's if you were to win can you decide then that i'm turning pro give me three million bucks no you got to turn you have to do it before the event i like that that needs to be a new wrinkle where if you win you just you have the choice i'm not a amateur no rips his fucking sure yeah no i think that should be an option only if you win though if you win you have the option to take three million bucks and become a pro. Well, if he won, he would have gotten his PJ tour card and he probably would have turned pro tomorrow. I think Sam Bennett's going to be a character on this tour.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I do. I think you were going to see a lot of it. If he keeps that up, if he keeps that shit up, what he pulled in that media center, I think we're going to get a lot of stuff out of San Bennett. And I don't think that's a bad thing. I just think that he's going to be in the media a lot. I think we're going to be like, this guy's a wild card. And he's, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:35 He's going to like, he's going to fucking blow us away. He says there's no such. What's that one quote he keeps saying? I guess it's a famous quote where it's like it's not like a golf swing. It's like it's golf, not golf swing. Yeah, it's called golf, not golf swing. It kept saying that. Just like I don't even know that.
Starting point is 00:55:51 It's not a tough. I love it. I love it. As a storyline guy, I love a Sam Bennett. You just, because it's, you don't know what you're going to get. It's rare to see one of these young guys too that doesn't bomb the golf ball.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Like I feel like all the young guys that come out bomb the golf ball. He was playing a. a kind of a completely different brand of golf. So I thought it was refreshing. He's an amateur up there in the mix. It was fun to watch, I thought. Really fun. Shout to Scotty, Airmail on the 12th Green today.
Starting point is 00:56:17 That was one of the more shocking shots I've ever seen in my life. He on 11 makes an absolute bomb and they show him. He gets this incredible standing ovation that the champions get walking up to the 12th. He kind of vaulted himself in the mix a little bit. You see these other guys, Brooks and Rahm, weren't necessarily going crazy low. And then I mean, he hit the ball. if it's 150 he hit at 175 i mean it wasn't even fucking close up into the shit took him right out of the tournament that was just one of the more stunning thing i actually thought he was going to flip his
Starting point is 00:56:47 club over afterwards and check the number on the bottom he stood there afterwards and i was still standing there i was looking into his eyes and i was i was like he's thinking what club am i holding right now did at six and not a nine like i'm still standing there looking out for i can i'll always picture that i should picture when i think a sky chef i was I should picture him wearing the green jacket. I may always picture him staring out at the 12th green being like, now what the fuck just happened? Because no one knew.
Starting point is 00:57:14 No. And you, you know, your brain becomes trained to understand when something is in the air for too long and golf. Like they show that shot so many times throughout the week. Yeah. Your brain just inherently knows like us with 15 second Instagram swipe ups.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Like when one of our social guys tells us to do it, our brain knows at 14 and a half seconds that we're there. We just know because we do it all the time. You watch that fucking shot over and over again. You know how long that ball is supposed to be in the air. And right after he hit it, I kind of heard him say sit. And the ball was in the air for like a second longer than it's supposed to be. And I was like, what?
Starting point is 00:57:46 And then when it came down, the camera was like, you couldn't even see the green or barely even see the bad bunker. The camera just showed like that hill, the pine straw, the bushes, the flowers. It wasn't even fucking close. So that was more, one of the more shocking things I've ever seen. And then the other shocking thing I saw today was Barstool Lurch linked to his own Twitter. account on his own Instagram story. Do you guys see that?
Starting point is 00:58:08 I saw that. Yeah. I got a good laugh out of me. Because he tweeted something. I forget what he tweeted. And then he, so he put the tweet up or whatever it was on an Insta story. And then he put it up again in the next story.
Starting point is 00:58:22 But the only thing that was different was he included a link to his Twitter. And it just said Twitter. It was incredible. Yeah. He linked like when we get this guy on the show, he knows we're recording right now. Can we just get him to join the show? He knows we're recording the mass. Recap.
Starting point is 00:58:36 He's on the, Ben Severance is a part of foreplay. He can just come on the show. He knows he can, like he is, I'm texting him right now. Where are you?
Starting point is 00:58:45 What are you doing right now? Right. Like, that's fair. He's a percentage of the show, right? He's like, he's a percentage. He needs to come on the show.
Starting point is 00:58:54 He has to come on the show. Like when we do a link to our spring merchandise, he did that to his own tweet on his Instagram story. It was incredible. Yeah, it was one of more shocking things again. But it's, revolutionized revolutionized social media.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Jake Bass even side texts me. He was like, did you see this Lurch link on his Instagram stores? I go, yeah, I fucking saw it. So Alex Bush, just send him a link. Alex Bustch, a link. All right.
Starting point is 00:59:18 If we're going through things that were stunning, um, I, I want to throw Vern Lundquist breathing into the mic into the mix on 16. Every time that I love Uncle Vern. He's a legend. He's obviously a legend. Like that goes without saying.
Starting point is 00:59:32 But when they would throw to 16, all you would hear was, all right sam bennett is standing on the team and then the ball would be in the air and you realize like when the ball is in the air that's when obviously the announcer is breathing but they have a button that they hit but he was just the whole time balls in there and he's just all right he's on the front part of the green it was really incredible and i love you know you know what alex and brennan listened to every time they edit like our mics now when we when we're out there fucking playing golf and huffing and puffing and speaking of 16 how about saw it amazing Yeah. Great debut for our boy. Low Masters rookie finished, I think tied for eight. So unbelievable. He said that when he hit it over there, he was, you know, he had to clear a bunch of the fans out. And he said everyone was saying chipping in for Tiger, do the Tiger chip and do it. Do it. Do it. You know where to hit it. And then he made it. It was pretty an electric moment. Huge, huge, huge debut for the kid. Very happy for him. He's just got a charisma to him that is like, you could feel it. When the ball went in, he didn't just like, the crowd didn't just go like, oh, great. Oh, that's awesome. People are going crazy. And he's going crazy. He's also got a very clear characteristic of this guy loves life.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Like he loves what's happening. He loves the things around. He's grateful. He's so grateful and he's smiling. And he's like, this is so cool. And he had the comments about how he doesn't even think he should be a top 30 player in the world that the rankings must be wrong. And he's just out there smiling and enjoying everything.
Starting point is 01:01:01 And that's so infectious. Like when someone is just really into it, It's like when we, Barstools made a whole business on that. And when you find somebody who's like, what is it, Detroit Don or whatever, who's just like obsessed with their team and they love everything about their team. And that's how he is with golf and his life. It feels like he's just obsessed with being a pro golfer and that he gets to live this life. And he gets to play chess against people on the fucking computer.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And he's just happy to be out there. So when you see that guy, hold a tiger shot, that was an excellent moment. He said afterwards, I think Danny said that was the most fun round of golf he's ever played in his life. Yeah, he said it was just the energy, just out of control. I mean, his first master's, you know, you're wide-eyed the whole time. He got off to a nervous start. He shot 73 in the first round and just kind of kept on creeping his way up.
Starting point is 01:01:44 He's a star. I think he definitely, like Trent was saying, he's got a star quality where there's almost no one who doesn't like him. Is it top 12 gets you an invite back? Is that right? Yeah, top 12 in time. So he's locked in. Don't think he'll need it because, you know, he'll be top 50.
Starting point is 01:01:56 He'll make the Tour Championship, all that stuff. But yeah, he's guaranteed to come back next year. Oh, amazing. So great work by him. That's your guy. But yeah, shout out to the weather coming around. It looked like this might be a horrific Monday finish. And even early, midweek, it looked like Monday was like 70% chance of rain too.
Starting point is 01:02:12 So it's like, dude, this could be one of the more sketchy efforts to get this tournament in. And then Sunday today turned out to be beautiful. I do like at least it, the weather being cold made me feel better about myself watching television golf for the first time in a while because they're hitting the ball nowhere. And you're like, okay, I get it now. Like when we go, we do the Dad Budd Classic for it's like 45 degrees and we're raining a little bit. You're out there at sea level and the ball's going nowhere and then you turn on TV and they're carrying it like 325 all over the place. You're like, what the fuck? But even them with that brutally cold weather, the wind into their face guy.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I mean, JT, I think yesterday hit like his T shot before he missed a cut. 240 or something. He was trying to grind. Hit it like, yeah, you hit at 240 or something. There's driver on 18. So that made me feel a little bit better. I like to see that. Somebody hit like a three wood.
Starting point is 01:02:59 the fairway today. Somebody got a three wood into the green on 18 today. I think Colt was like it's the first ever like fairway would ever hit on the fairway at Augusta on 18. It's like, I mean, who the hell did that? And they pulled it way left into the crowd. That was crazy. I was like,
Starting point is 01:03:14 are they, because that must have been what? At most like a 220 shot and they're ripping fucking three or five wood. Like that's, that's how you know that was that ball is going nowhere. Dude, I saw, I think it was Hovlin had like 164 into 18 and he hit a five iron.
Starting point is 01:03:28 And I was like, dude, this is great. Because on TV, when they're standing on the T on like seven at Pebble and the winds whipping into their face, you can see it and sense it. You couldn't really sense it. So it looked like he's just standing there in the middle of like a decently nice day, hitting a five iron from 164 into the 18th green. So just seeing, yeah, those numbers and seeing how like the elements can affect the hell out of those guys too, not just us.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Just made me feel better by myself. So I enjoyed that. Prayers up for anyone that bought tickets just for Saturday at the master. It's just a tough day. Like, you probably won the lottery. It's just the biggest day of your life. You're heading there to Augusta, Georgia, and you just can't believe you're about to go into the master's.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Trees are falling down. People are, I had a buddy, Brian Axrot, shout out to Axe. He went and he just like, it was his first time ever. And he's like, I couldn't see anything. People, he goes, it was chaos. He's like, people are falling everywhere. Like, you would take like five or six steps and people would just slip and just like, you couldn't even keep your footing.
Starting point is 01:04:23 That grass is so slippery once. And all those hills are so undulating. So yeah, just wanted to shout out all those people. Hopefully you get a chance to go back because that's, that's no way to experience the greatest space on Earth. Great point. And I would say, you know, being around Greyhockey yesterday, I ran a bunch of people like, oh, were you at the Masters this week?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Yeah, what's it like? It's, and we've all been, Dan's there all week. It's the highest recommend I could possibly give to anyone of any event. I don't think anything delivers quite like going to the Masters tournament. I think the efficiency of it being in there without your cell phone, seeing the golf course, the fact that even if there wasn't a single player on the course, that seeing the course itself would be worth the price of admission, just walking the holes,
Starting point is 01:05:04 one all the way through 18, seeing how they do the merchandise, being able to buy merchandise there, going through the concessions and how perfect those are, having a beer while standing in Augusta, Georgia, watching the best players in the world come by, not being distracted by anything on a cell phone. It's just the greatest experience in sports,
Starting point is 01:05:22 so couldn't finish this show without saying that. fan it's that was the first time i've ever really done that was on thursday because i don't think we've ever been to a tournament round before i think we had just done the practice round a couple different times frankie and i went on wednesday last year during the part three and there's a bunch of rain it was a little bit dicey so i've been in there a few times but thursday was the only day where i went with five college buddies we got there like i said at seven 30 in the morning we bought chairs we put them down and we just hung out if you suffer from the symptoms of ADHD lack of focus, no productivity. Your brain is constantly wandering. You need to check out proper wilds,
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Starting point is 01:07:43 I said just fucking join the show just like like we need to see that you're alive you are in a dark Uber I'm just trying to play with the lights but they are not coming on so whether I'm alive or dead is still TBD what are your what are your overall takeaways from the masters First of all, how are you? Are you okay as a human being? How is life been? Life's good. Life's good.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah, nothing really new. Just living this life, putting one foot in front of the other and kind of going to Nile Horan telling you to, Nile Horan telling you where the hell are you, stop selling drones? That must have been a crazy moment. That was wild. I didn't see that one coming. And then I actually, I do want to put together a video of me singing slow hands to him
Starting point is 01:08:26 while hitting wedges. So I got to do that and send it back. That'll be after the video that you're supposed to do the first time. That'll be like a week old, which is just in Lurch for him. But, no, life's good. Hit a couple master's bets, lost a couple for sure. You know, it's really frustrating are those the bundled payouts when you have like, dude, I had Sanjay-in, top 20.
Starting point is 01:08:52 He finished like T-17 and because it goes to T-23. I get the math, but it's just infuriated. One time, I was in the money and say I bet a thousand bucks on it, I only got 800 bucks back. It's like my brain doesn't even understand how you can lose anyways. That's a whole other thing. I love the Masters more than anything in the world is the takeaway. I think that tournament's as good as he gets. It was a bummer to see Rory go out the way that he did.
Starting point is 01:09:23 It was wild to watch just the up and down play of everybody. I mean, Victor Hovlin goes out and shoot whatever, six, seven, eight under on day one and then played even bar golf for the rest. You got Phil Mickelson coming out of the clouds today, him and speed. I wish I bet that group. They were just making birdies everywhere. That was lovely. Yeah, shout out to John Ron, though. He was fabulous.
Starting point is 01:09:47 I mean, he was turning Trevor Emelman on. Every time he hit a golf shot, I thought, I thought Emelman was going to come his pants. I mean, like, when he hit that drive-down 13, whoever his counterpart was, you know, talking to Imolmone and Imlom was like, no, no, no, it's better than that. That shot was majestic. You don't even understand how good it was. So yeah, it was just, it was great. I think on 16, I think on 16 when Rahm hit it, Trevor goes, oh, I have to go back and see if that was the hole, but there was one hole where he just let out an elongated moan. I remember trying to, I made a mental note that like, yeah, Trev definitely, he didn't say saddle, by the way. I don't think he said
Starting point is 01:10:25 which was a bummer. There was such an opportune time, too, when Rom was looking down the wedge on 18 on Sunday. I was like, dude, is he going to whisper saddle? Because they showed the lens behind him. And I was like, it looks like a saddle. Say the word. I just, right. I want to be clear.
Starting point is 01:10:43 I get that. I love Trevor Newman. I get that it's a big week. And there's a lot of pressure like, just get through the master's coverage and like, you know, survive. But there was that moment on 18. The camera was behind Rom looking at the green. And Jim Nance said, now, now explain to me the difficulty of
Starting point is 01:10:59 this shot, Trevor. And I was like, well, this is it. I mean, if we're ever going to have an opportunity to say saddle, it's going to be right here. He didn't end up saying it. And again, I understand it's, it's a pressure packed week. The master's a big deal. It's his first one. But yeah, no saddle. But that, but that's okay. And I think we lost Lurch. We lost Lurch. He's just on the road. I'm worried about was, was there was there, has anyone been hearing, like, uh, you know, like the iPhone making the charging noise. Has anyone been trying to charge something? Yeah, It's my, my computer, my computer chargers at my other, I don't have it with me. If that's actually been coming through your mic, I think people are going to, like,
Starting point is 01:11:34 throw their, their AirPods like into a river for this. When he's not talking, it'll be muted anyways. Okay. I heard it like five or six times. Because that's such a triggering noise. It's like, it's like the phone or the laptop charging. And it's been happening every two seconds. I mean, it's been, what, an hour and four minutes of that.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Well, the problem is I found this thing that like will charge, but it's not a computer charger. So it's like, that's what I've, that's what I've. I texted Alex saying is that are you hearing this or am I going insane right now? So apologies to anyone if you've been here. It's almost like when, um, uh, Trent, when we would stream PJ 2K 23 and then on like my PC, I would get that like outlook notification just because like I'd say like,
Starting point is 01:12:12 like you need to update. Yeah, that one's, I don't want to hear getting a ping from work right now at 9.30 at night on Sunday while you guys are playing video games. Um, Lurch keeps, keeps trying to get in and out, but he can't. But it's always great to hear from the big fellow. And here he is again. Yeah, I'm back.
Starting point is 01:12:29 This is the lurch. Yeah. I mean, well, this is right back to like the old days where who do, who was talking, who was in, who was out. Maybe this link has gotten better. I think we got a good recap from you on it. The other, the only other thing. This is kind of what brought you up into our minds was the move that you pulled on Instagram, where you put up a tweet and then you, the next story was the tweet again, but it was a link to your Twitter,
Starting point is 01:12:54 which we thought was, was a, was a, a beautiful way to promote your Twitter. Dude, I, and it feels like I might get cut out again, but I still see Frankie's face moving, so I think I'm still with you, boys. I don't know how you guys don't do the double Instagram story. That happens to me, I mean, most of my stories just go up as doubles. I don't know what I do, fat finger, anything, but I'll literally write something, delete it or whatever, and two stories go out, and then, like, I'll get a message.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Like, you just did it again, idiot. you have two stories the same thing out. But that's not what he's saying. He's saying that you took a screenshot of your tweet where you said Kepka is used to 54 holes, hashtag live. And then you put that on Instagram, funny. It's the whole thing. You're like, this is what I do on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I'm showing Instagram. And then you wrote underneath it Twitter. And you gave people the option to be like, here, here's that tweet again, but just on a different platform. So if you would like, if you'd like to go see this same exact tweet, you can go click this link and look at the same tweet. That to me is asking so much of people to just, you know, enjoy your content. But, you know, it makes me laugh because it's so, it's so stereotypically you.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Yeah, no, I'm not great at the social media, you know? That worldwide web is a tricky game when you started getting into WWs. But yeah, no, I got nothing for that except I'll say, I think my statistics on sending out double Instagram. stories are third like a third of all stories that I go out are doubled. I don't think how you could even do that on that. It's unbelievable. It's so unintentional and then I'll just get a message.
Starting point is 01:14:37 At the time, Instagram will be like, you already posted this. I wish they would. I would like, I'd love that. But I don't know. Do you ever like go back and look and just be like right after you post it? Be like, oh, I'm not a huge. Like, as you see like the typos and things, it's more just like as soon as as the fingers feel it, it's going out there. And there's really not much. There's no evidence that goes
Starting point is 01:14:59 on. Gotcha. I'll say quick before I hang up with you boys. The other takeaway that I want to give a shout out to the Masters, their ability to somehow finagle all the T-Times and get people out was unbelievable. I'd like the T-times today, who was going out. I had a play on the postman to have a top 40 finish. I wonder if he finished because he finished up the ninth hole and was done on nine and everybody's watching 18 he's finishing up and everybody's just got their backs turn on nobody cares and he's going for you finish like t 33 like i was thinking about how they're all moving around the golf course and how just like that is the most careless who the hell cares you finish the masters of all time because nobody's looking at the ninth green everybody's
Starting point is 01:15:43 looking at 18s and people come up but i thought they did a phenomenal job with all the weather getting people out on certain two times that's a so you're saying to me as as the final group was up there someone's on nine just like when the second group came up it was insane that's like and nobody's looking you know what I mean just like everybody's back and he's coming up nine just trying to have this special moment I just got a good chuckle out of that that is funny that's a funny thought because they I didn't really realize that was going on either until they showed Fred couples finishing and they're like oh yeah he was on the other side of golf course and they banned over there But I never thought about the fact that there's probably 25,000 people very close to him.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And not even be like, yeah, whatever. I don't know who that is. Like, no big deal. You know, me like postman obviously got a name, not a huge name. Couples, they'll probably turn around. But for the postman and Fleener, like, I don't think anybody's looking in their direction. And they're just like, no, they probably just let some members on. I don't know what's going on over there.
Starting point is 01:16:44 You know what I mean? Because you got to, like, the only reason is that I was dialed in, just the app, you know, I'm checking scores, the whole thing of how we finished. up. But, um, right. It's like when we have the bar so classic, like in, our, like, uh, our block of tea times finishes, like, like, the public play or like the members will tee off right after and you start
Starting point is 01:17:01 seeing those guys come through. Like that's what people like a, like a casual golf fan at the master is that just got brought in a buddy's trip. It's probably like, oh yeah, those are just like the guys playing after the master. Like that's just after the tournament. Those guys are just playing. Yeah. Really good.
Starting point is 01:17:15 That's the next tournament for like tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Well, thanks for checking in, Big Man. Yeah, it's good seeing your faces. Sorry, it couldn't show off mine. Now I just got an L on the screen.
Starting point is 01:17:27 They'll put us some sort of picture of you. I think L on the screen is perfect. That's funny stuff. Yeah. Oh, quick shout out to a game that we created. So kind of an impromptu, like, Bachelor party kind of for a buddy just because he wasn't having one. He's getting married in Italy, kind of a tough ass to make people do crazy travel.
Starting point is 01:17:48 So we're in Boston. Bodies are together trying to think of a competitive game. We've got nine people break up in the groups of threes. We played an alternate shot game in a simulator. That was fun. Then we're thinking, all right, we want to go to a bar. How do we kind of gamify this? Break into groups of three.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Everybody trades phone with somebody else. So you give your phone to somebody else. And now you've got to get from that location to the bar across the city. and you can't take an Uber or a cab, and you've got to figure out a way to get to that bar by asking people, kind of the most amazing race. Some people just sprinted. Really fun time,
Starting point is 01:18:29 because when you cut the phone and like any talking out of your possession, it becomes much more intricate and difficult. So anyways, just a little word of wisdom out there to anybody trying to gamify how you get from position A to position B, trade phones with somebody else in the group. and then you're on your own. So trading phones means because you can't log into their phones
Starting point is 01:18:52 so it's just a useless piece of technology. Right, exactly. It's just, exactly, but you want to bring it to the bar. Right, so then you trade with them when you get to the bar.
Starting point is 01:19:00 It's the dumbest game ever, but I love it. Dude, it's super fun. I mean, it's like manhunt, like when I was in like 10, like,
Starting point is 01:19:07 10 years old or just like go out and just like run to the next town. Be like, you think we can make it to love of town? I will say Boston is like maybe the best city for that because it's just the right size where you could run or walk there, but it's,
Starting point is 01:19:21 it's going to take you a while. Whereas if you did that in like New York, I mean, nightmare. Yeah, you might, like half the guys would just die. It would never make it.
Starting point is 01:19:31 All right. So people started running. And we got a friend Pemak who's got bad asthma. And when he showed up to the bar and got her sitting outside. And he was in a dead sprint for the last like couple hundred yards. Just pushing like a poor, a poor man. Like his body is not in great shape. And so he was pushing into the limits.
Starting point is 01:19:56 When he showed up, I mean, he looked at death. It was a fantastic game. If you're trying to make things a little bit different, add some gamification than anything you're doing. That's what I'll end with you on. So great weekend, a lot of fun. Masters is sick. I love it.
Starting point is 01:20:12 All right. I love it, Lurge. All right. Hit it hard, fellas. Enjoy yourself. All right, big man. mentioned it earlier, but we're here. Our characters myself, Frankie Trent, we are in PGA Tour 2K23.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Tiger Woods is also in that. This is the exclusive game where Tiger Woods appears. We appear right next to Tiger Woods. You can literally start the game, pick a golf course, and then the characters that you're going to choose to play in a foursome can beat us three on this show right here who look just like us. Our mannerisms are like us. It's nuts how accurate this thing is.
Starting point is 01:20:47 And you can also play with Tiger Woods. The time has come. The time has come. You're going to go to the menu. You're going to get PGA Tour 2K23. You're going to go to the menu. You're going to select player. And you're going to see options for Tiger Woods,
Starting point is 01:20:59 Steph Curry, Tony Fee now. You're going to see Justin Thomas. And then Michael Jordan. Then you're going to see Sam Bezoian, Trent Ryan, Frankie Borelli. Like we used up three of those slots. Think about how crazy that is. Like we used up three of those slots as if we were three individual people of importance.
Starting point is 01:21:17 That's nuts to me. Michael Jordan only got one slot. Like what's happening? Do they know what's happening? Does anyone over there know what's going on? Why? Why is this happening? I don't know, but all I know is I can't wait to see these people sending in clips of
Starting point is 01:21:32 you playing with Trent Ryan, with myself, with Riggs, trying to hit the shots. You got to go play Butter's Bay. You got to go play Nyes Creek. You got to go play all the courses that they have in there, Pebble Beach. They've got Tori Pines. I mean, the list goes on and on all user-created golf courses. Your mind's going to be blown. If you don't have PJ 2K23 right now, you're a moron because it's the greatest golf game ever.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And if you do have it and you haven't dusted off the sticks in a while, now's the time. Update the game. We're going to be in it. Make sure you're on. We're going to be streaming today while you're listening to it. We're streaming us playing with our characters for the first time. It's Ever against dreams. This is insane.
Starting point is 01:22:09 When we wake up tomorrow, we're going to play a video game with our characters. That's fucking nuts. It says right here, PJ2K23 is the exclusive home to Frankie, Riggs, Trent, and Tiger Woods. So is that right here on this copy? So go check it out. Make sure you pick it up or download the game now. That's PGA Tour 2K23. I do think it's sort of piggybacking off that game, I guess, and the Masters and not having
Starting point is 01:22:39 your phone. Like, I think if you, like the Masters is one thing. Go into Augusta. They take your phone. You're at the best golf course in the world. They figured out the concessions. It's all streamlined. You're there with your buddies.
Starting point is 01:22:49 It's the drinks are cheap. The food is cheap. I think we're so obsessed with our. our phones and they've broken our brains to a point where I think if like if you went to a park and they took your phone away, I think you would have a million times more fun than like with your phone. Like that the idea of taking a phone away and we can't we I haven't been able to not look at my phone for 10 years. I look at it a million times a day every single day. We kind of don't have the option, but we we do because we exist and you know, we can put our phones away. Not having your
Starting point is 01:23:19 phone, even not going to the best place in the world is going to enhance the experience. times like 50 yeah it's like it's doing like an activity like when we go play pickleball you're just like out there having fun like you're just like doing things with people you're that's what our brains are programmed to do right just do things with people underneath like the like the bench and you're just like not like worrying about it and you just fucking are doing other things and then you like look and then you get that pain of anxiety when you pick it up again because you're like I don't want to I don't want to step back into this world I liked that little bliss where I was just without it like I think I would be stunned if I knew the amount of times that I checked my phone during the day.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I don't know the number because I don't keep track and I just do it out of instinct. But I bet it's like 500 times. And it's crazy. Going Thursday as a fan without a phone was unequivocally a win and a positive the whole day. It was perfect. Just it's going back to time, man. Yep. Zero connection to it.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Zero requirement to it. Full attention to everything else that's going on. Full engagement in conversation in the jokes that you're, crew comes up with throughout the day that your crew recycles throughout the day chatting with other people it's just like it's it's a different it's it's such a different style of day to day life it was right like shocking and it was great we make jokes about my dad because he doesn't take his cell phone anywhere it just sits on the couch so like when he's sitting there he'll use it but then when we go out to dinner or where we go golf and he won't bring it and we're like look at this guy not
Starting point is 01:24:47 bringing his phone and the the sick and twisted part of it is that he's doing it probably the right way. And he's not thinking of it like, he's not thinking like, I'm going to leave my phone so I can enjoy myself. He, that's just how he lived for 55 years before cell phone showed up. So he's just like, this is how I go about my day. But I guarantee he has a more engaging experience everywhere we go than the rest of us because we're all just checking Twitter when there's a half a second of free time. Do you think we're ever, you think we're beyond, um, that point of civilization where like, um, like our generation is ever going to miss something that the younger generation's doing when it comes to something as important as a cell phone. I feel like the older generation
Starting point is 01:25:27 is so not stubborn, but like they're so like about their own way that they like won't even get a phone. They won't go on Twitter. They won't go on whatever. Something as big as the cell phone is like, like your dad won't even take it to dinner. Like do you think we'll ever have a scenario like that in our generation where like when we're 60, the things that something will come up with from the 10 year olds or whatever like that generation and we're just not going to get it because we're like, we don't need that. I feel like we're beyond that. We're going to get everything. We're always going to get everything.
Starting point is 01:25:56 You think it'll happen? We're still, we're still, we're still young. I think it's like, you know, like when you're 60, something as big as like,
Starting point is 01:26:05 yeah, I guess so. Well, think back to like, what was a shift before? Like the car was a shift. When the car started to be coming through. I don't know how to really formulate like what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 01:26:16 I think what you're trying to say the cell phone was such a big shift in the way that people operate. That is, It's just, it's completely, the internet completely changed it. Having the answer to everything in the palm of your hand all the time is something they couldn't conceive of, you know, 60 years ago or whatever. And now that that's just part of who we are, but there are people like my dad and older people who are just like, I'm not going to do that because that's not the way that I want to do. I guess I don't know the answer because it hasn't happened. Yeah, TV, but like, I bet it was TV.
Starting point is 01:26:44 I bet there was a generation that was like, I can't believe you guys are just sitting in front of this machine all day. You need to be out like we were talking and playing tag. 100% I guess you'll never know until it happens But like are we like Yeah have well is there gonna be something as as Like a neural link That's exactly what I was gonna say okay so now that
Starting point is 01:27:06 I don't want to talk in neurolink at dinner Right if all the if all the yeah younger generations get neuralinks in them And you're like that's exactly what it is okay So I was saying like have we run out of inventions that will change the world in our lifetime as big as the phone, the car, all that shit. We're just closer to becoming robots. So if whatever is closer to becoming one with the robot, that's it. Now it's like our generation's like, oh, if you're not on TikTok, you're old.
Starting point is 01:27:34 So, but it's like that's within the phone. Like that's a social media app that I'm not going to join like that. That's not like the change of the world. That's just like, oh, you're not on TikTok. You're not on YouTube. It's like, well, no, I have the phone. I'm doing that. Like I meant like an actual invention physically.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Yeah. But I will say, though, about. TikTok like that has evolved for what I've noticed where people will literally like instead of watching TV shows or binging a show or a movie they're like I'm just watching TikTok I'm literally going to lay in bed for two and a half hours and watch TikTok. Emma when I'm when I'm like before bed I'm watching a TV show and I'm like oh you want to watch she's like I'm just watching TikTok I'll be like yeah what you do this afternoon she's like yeah I just like sat on the couch watch tick off for like an hour and a half then I walk the dog that's tick to I'll go on stretches where I won't watch I won't have open
Starting point is 01:28:19 TikTok for a month, but then, like, recently, these last couple days, I've been on it a lot. And I'll watch TikTok during the commercial breaks of the Masters. So when they throw it a commercial, I pull up TikTok and I'm just scrolling. It's a problem. I like TikTok. I like making TikTok. So I think it's good. Victor Hovlin's outfit this week, his outfits were out of control just to bring it back to
Starting point is 01:28:38 golf for a second. He also hates them. Yeah. Why does he do that? Who does he work for? You know what I mean? Like he is the guy. They work for him.
Starting point is 01:28:46 He was like, yeah, they're asking him. He had nothing to do with this. I'll just say it was better than my pants last year. He could do whatever he wants. He's like he's like he's better than my pants last year. Why do you not wear the pants then? We watched Colin Morikawa on full swing be like, this doesn't fit my like aesthetic or my brand.
Starting point is 01:29:02 And he's like, I won't. I won't wear these pants. I'm not going to wear these pants. And he didn't. And like it's amazing to me that guys at the level of Victor Hovlin will just accept these outrageous shirts. Imagine the guy won the masters in that shirt. I mean, you can't win the masters in that shirt.
Starting point is 01:29:17 You can't. Probably why I didn't. win. Right. That guy's a fucking, do you think, do you think Victor Hovlin has, he's going to be like one of those guys now next year and the year after you're like, he got to bet Victor Hovlin. He always shows up at the Masters. He always shows up in the majors.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And he's always going to be that like Zander Schoffley that just never gets it done, but like plays really well. And he's just going to be a forever top 10 at the majors, Masters, but never going to fucking lift the trophy. I feel like he's going to be that guy. It's possible. And his chipping has improved a lot. It was like a glaring, glaring
Starting point is 01:29:46 weakness in his game and he showed a lot of improvement like if you can chip it augusta you can chip anywhere so i think he hits it good enough he drives it well enough that he's yeah he's going to be up there because he's you know on these tough courses where they weed out the kind of flimsy ball strikers he shines so like u.s opens pga's yeah i think he'll he'll be up there and it's just a function of whether he can get in the hole because his ball striking is as good as anybody's he's 25 though too wow that's that's crazyness 25 years old he's 25 i was way off on that if you would have asked me that 28, 29. No, he's one of those really young guys.
Starting point is 01:30:21 See, I thought he was around on Rob's age. Rom is a month older than I am, and we look, you have the same haircut. He's 28. I'm a month. I'm like three weeks older than Roy McElroy, which is... I like that. Rom's a beard guy, too. We don't have a ton of beard guys in golf. Oh, yeah, he's got a full one, too. It grows like overy high up his face. It's like a...
Starting point is 01:30:40 It's like almost under his eyeballs. Yeah. Rick Ross has a beard like that. And so does White So does White Tuck, Dave. Not a ton of beard guys in in golf. So I like that he's a beard guy. Russell Henley, that name popped up. Just a long-sleeved shirt with buttons by the neck. That guy's a fucking, that guy's a pretty good golfer. He really is. Great iron player. Great iron player. Well, that was a cool thing about today was like there was a two-man race pretty much the whole day,
Starting point is 01:31:02 but there were pop-ups of Spieth and Scotty and Russell and all these guys just sort of like on the Cal-Lay. Cam Young. They all just kind of got on the edge. And it never worked. He doesn't care. I just made another part. I have a feeling that Camion is going to be. It's over here. Camion's going to be the next guy.
Starting point is 01:31:23 That's what he does, dude. It's the beard. Your Cam Young shake kills me. It's the facial hair or something. He just, he just doesn't fucking show emotion. I think here's my prediction for Cam Young. It's in regards to this podcast. Yeah, he's going to be the guy who comes on the show and he's awesome.
Starting point is 01:31:41 He's going to be in love with him. No, no, no, no. No, he's going to be like super cool and normal and like love baseball and like we're just going to be huge fans. He does. We're not anti. I'm not anti-Canyang. He just, he makes me laugh out there. He just shows no emotion.
Starting point is 01:31:59 And I would love to ask him if it's all like process of, part of his process. Just nothing matters. Just this is the way I golf. It's all a mile. Yep. I don't get excited for Eagles. I don't get excited for birdies. I don't get mad about bogies.
Starting point is 01:32:13 I just golf. And at the end, hopefully I win. Another beard guy. Yep. All right, boys, we got succession to watch.
Starting point is 01:32:21 So if you guys are all set, I'm going to wrap this thing up. That's a great call. All right. I got to drive to Aiken, South Carolina, so I'm down to wrap up. There's like 30 minutes away.
Starting point is 01:32:31 It was the master. Yeah, it's like 40 minutes. We've been talking for an hour in 22 minutes. All right. Unbelievable Masters. Congratulations to John Rom.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Just everything from the live guys. Phil. I just all delivered. The weather kind of came through in the last day and at least allowed there to be a nice sunny finish and the whole deal. So congratulations to the Masters Tournament in Augustine National. They did it again. They always do it incredibly well. Congratulations to John Rom, friend of the program.
Starting point is 01:32:58 And we'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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