Fore Play - Justin Rose, and A Star-Studded Nashville Match Was Born

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

Justin Rose (33:20) joins the show for the first time to discuss poetic insight from a local caddie at the 2013 U.S. Open, being the 2016 Olympic gold medalist, & being a Ryder Cup stalwart. Then we b...reakdown the MASSIVE Fore Man Scramble match vs Jake Owen, Darius Rucker, Morgan Wallen & Hardy. Who wins? Who’s got the edge? Who doesn’t? We also get into Big Cedar Lodge, the Barstool Classic, the Barstool Golf Society on 2k, and much more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We've got a big guest, Justin Rose, U.S. Open winner, Olympic gold medalist. He told some great stories. He had some phenomenal insight from winning at Marion. That's coming up. We're going to throw that in. And 15 minutes or so, we're going to talk first about a large development.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Things have happened since the last time we did a show, which was. last Thursday, Jake Owen, Darius Rucker, Morgan Wallen, and Hardy, we are playing them in a golf match tomorrow. We have the whole squad today. The whole four-man scramble is here. Lurch is back from slinging drones. We got Trent, Frankie, Lurch, and myself
Starting point is 00:00:44 on the ones and twos, Jake Bass, Brendan Jones, all the videos that you see, all the promos that you see. That's those guys, and they cut up this podcast, which really doesn't take that much because we pretty much just hit record. We spew some bullshit for an hour or so, and then we hit stop, and that's pretty much how it goes out.
Starting point is 00:01:00 But gentlemen, you guys this evening will be taking, this is Monday that we're recording, you guys will be taking a jet plane to Nashville, Tennessee, and we are playing at Trubador, which is a new discovery property, tomorrow, which is the 29th of September. The four man scrambles back, we're one and oh, we're undefeated. This is a different format. The person that we're playing is not a PGA tour winner who gets to hit one shot and play his ball. our opponent is a four-headed country music monster who is coming after us and trying to give us our first L, how are we feeling?
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, it's a totally different, totally different vibe now because you know that like when you're playing the one guy, when we were talking about kids in that matchup, we said like, all right, like there's going to be times where he just doesn't beat us because it's one guy. He can make a mistake. He can hit it into a bunker. He can hit it to the back of the green, two putt, there's a bogey. we can just make a parable win that hole. We were pretty confident in that. That on a really tough golf course,
Starting point is 00:02:02 one guy could make a mistake here and there, and we're going to be pretty mistake-free. We're going to have a clean card. But now you're talking about four guys that play so much golf. I mean, Jake Owen plays more golf probably than anyone in the world. Darius Rucker, I think, plays like twice a day from what I'm seeing on Twitter. People are like, oh, yeah, it belongs to the same club as Darius. He literally plays 36 holes every single day when he's on tour.
Starting point is 00:02:26 And they're fucking decent handicapped. and good players and they're all friends, it seems like, so their vibes are going to be real hot. And it's going to be tough. They have four shots at every single location, and they're probably just better golfers than us. And we have to factor in the point that we're going to be standing over our ball, looking, this is on the T, standing over our ball,
Starting point is 00:02:45 and Darius record, Jake O and Morgan Wall and Hardy are going to be standing right behind us. Like with Kiz, it's, I think maybe the first couple holes, like you're a little nervous just because you're out there. There were a lot of people out there at Pine Nurse, but then you get used to it and Kisner's just like one of our buddies. These guys, which I'm sure they're very friendly, but the fact that, like, Darius Rucker is going to be standing right behind me as I tee up a shot, I'm very, very nervous about that.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It's hilarious. The whole thing is, I don't know, it happened fast. You know, so for anyone who's not fully in tune, Jake Owen started kind of chirping a little bit. We started chirping back. I had a conversation with him. He's trying to raise money. for his foundation. He saw what we did with the Kisner match, said, hey, why don't you guys
Starting point is 00:03:31 come to Nashville? We had chirped him and we talked, I think during quarantine, we had him on the podcast. That one got kind of emotional, actually, and a little, I don't know, it got, they got pretty intense about the fields and about life. It was great. But we talked about kind of battle, and we talked about playing the Jonas brothers. We talked about playing different celebrities, different PGA tour pros, and boom, here this thing came. So we actually are doing this to raise money for the Jake Owen Foundation. you recall we went to Vero Beach last year. We saw this concert.
Starting point is 00:04:00 It was a whole thing as he came in on his plane. We came in on a plane. We actually the only, I think, group in the history of private aviation to get delayed for like seven hours, but we did it. We made it to Vero Beach. We raised a bunch of money with Jake. We're doing that again. So you can go to the link.
Starting point is 00:04:18 We've got it all over the place. But we've got our transfusion version of you can't drink all day. We don't start in the morning teas, which are fire. we've got the kind of cool match Nashville guitar country musicians that's what we're doing, shirt. We also threw a couple auction items so people bitch at us. I see the DMs
Starting point is 00:04:35 all the time are oh let me and my boys take you guys one. We would dust you guys you guys suck, you bunch of vanity handicaps. Now's your chance. If you have the highest bid on the auction item, you will play on camera, the four-man scramble. So it's not like we only take on celebrities. It's not like we only take on the Kevin Kisner's of the world, which we won. We're undefeated by that way. We'll take on you, Joe Schmo and your three buddies, the highest bid wins. And then you can
Starting point is 00:05:00 also play me in a match. We'll find a good golf course. Might be Aaron Hills. That's last time somebody won an auction. We went to Aaron Hills. It could be Pinehurst. If you live out west, maybe we'll go to Torrey Pines. I don't know where we'll go. But we will find a sweet course. We'll play you guys. So go do the auction, do the bidding. Jake Owen's got a match up there, too. I think that's going for like $8,000 if you can play a match for Jake Owen. So we're raising money for a great cause. And we're also here to win. We've brought on our very good friends at Owens,
Starting point is 00:05:31 the barstall transfusion by Owens. They saw, they heard about the event. Jake Owen, Owens, probably a match made in heaven. So they're going to be cover and they're going to be supporting this event. And you should be supporting Owens. You really absolutely should be drinking transfusions. I saw a bunch this weekend. People were starting to get pretty heavy.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I think people, too, are starting to realize that, you know, summer's over, it's fall. You want to get those last days in that you possibly can't out of the course enjoying a nice, delicious beverage. So go to Owensmixtures.com, check out the store locator. Go get it. Go exchange money. USD is what we talk about a lot on this show. And then you can get your partial transfusion.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Owens Mixers is awesome. So go check them out. Thank you for supporting and sponsoring the match. But the handicaps are, so folks know going in. Lurch is currently a four, which, by the way, congratulations, Lurch. That's your lowest by far, right? Yeah, and four or five. So we could add some decimal.
Starting point is 00:06:23 points into that screenshot that they put out there. 4-5 is the handicap, but much lower than I've ever been. And, yeah, I mean, it almost makes you nervous the lower you get because I've got to fulfill that, and I don't feel like I can really fulfill a 4-5. I feel like I can fulfill a 6, but a 4-5 gets me nervous because that's better than my skill set in my mind. Yeah. So, you know, it...
Starting point is 00:06:51 Oh, I think we lost Riggs' audio. Just for a second. Audio back? You're back now, yeah. Why is that my fucking shit computer that does that, you think? I think that might be what it is. This computer's shocked. I can't pay attention to you with all those fucking speakers behind you.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Yeah, what's going on in the wall behind you? We're in Nashville, man. Oh, yeah. Some Nashville Hotel. What do you? I didn't, I didn't, you think I decorated a little bit? It's fucking awesome. It's unreal. It's sweet, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:07:18 So cool. What the, what the hell? Also, we're just going to be that. Handiccaps. Traveling always spooks me out. Oh, yeah. This is my first time. I got to get on a flight in like three,
Starting point is 00:07:30 four and a half hours. This is my first time flying since February. But not even that, but like the fact that Riggs is in, Riggs is in this little box on my screen right now through the internet and he's in like a room in Nashville. And then I'm going to be in a room next, like in the same kind of room tonight.
Starting point is 00:07:47 throws my brain for a loop like you wouldn't believe. Like I'm looking at him and then I'm going to be there within a couple hours. No, I get that sometimes I wake up, like, the morning that I'm going to travel, and I'll be like, where the next time I wake up, I'm going to be thousands of miles away from this location. Yeah, I think about that all the time. I mean, what do you guys, living in 1850 here?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Like, we've been traveling, you know. I think, you know, sometimes. The other day, we did pizza reviews in Pittsburgh, and, like, I was in New Jersey, Pittsburgh, and then back along Island for dinner. And, like, we flew private with Dave. and I remember, like, I left my house for, like, lunch, and I was just like in New Jersey, Pittsburgh, New York City, and then back for dinner in New York and Long Island.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And I was like, what the fuck just happened today? I just can't get the concept of 21st century travel. I can't figure that out. I just got a memory that we went up to Cabot in September. I landed Monday morning, went to work that day. That evening, I left on a plane to go to Scot. So I woke up in Nova Scotia and I went to bed that night in Scotland. Oh.
Starting point is 00:08:56 I spent a day of work in New York City. That's amazing. Okay. If we're going to do this, I'll say I had a funny moment with Jake on Monday where Sunday night, Frankie and I were at Wingfoot with Bryce until like 10 p.m. Then drove to Newark, New Jersey, took a 6 a.m. flight to Detroit. Was at the Barstall Classic for about six hours in Detroit, then took two different flights to get to rural southern Missouri at Big Cedar.
Starting point is 00:09:20 And we were there by like 9 o'clock at night on Monday night. And I just said to Jake, when we were grabbing our bags, I don't remember being in Detroit. No part of me remember. I don't even recall that we were in Detroit. So it is just bizarre. But you guys will be in Nashville to go through the handicaps. Lurch is a four.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Congratulations to Lurch. You've been playing a great golf. I'm a five, which is I think the lowest I've been in a couple of years. Frankie's a nine, I think. And Trent's, we've played Trent in his matches always as a 25, and it's been very, very close, I feel like, the matches. Yeah. The handicapped police was fucking eaten up.
Starting point is 00:09:58 There was a full on Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving fucking feast. I don't know what I tell people. I plug the numbers that I play and I just put them in this system. It's actually, like, I'm waiting for the, to have another nine holes to just to match up this 50 at Wingfoot. Like, it just won't go into it. So I'll end up being a nine, but like, right now I'm below a nine. It's like, great. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:18 It was one of the rare instances where being a 25 handicap on a golf podcast was an absolute blessing. People were just lighting you guys up and they're like, oh, well, Trent told the truth, he fucking sucks. But these other guys, it was, it was great. And I felt bad because it was, it was like throwing bait to a bunch of sharks, putting up that gravity. What I don't get. I talk about these fucking people all the time. It's like, what do I gain from making my handicapped seem lower than it should be? Like, here's the thing that they're not understanding
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's like it's not like I'm just saying that handicap And then never playing in real life And showing you the way I play. Everyone's like, but you don't break 90 on film. It's like, well, that's like one round of golf in the middle of 30 that we play in the summer. Like the one round of golf. Also, people don't comprehend that the handicap is your potential.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It's not your average. So that's like anyone who doesn't understand the system will freak out. And they're like, you don't shoot nine over on average. Like, that's not true. And it's like, no, you're correct. My potential, like when I play really well, my potential for me, I'm a five, is to shoot around like 77.
Starting point is 00:11:23 That's my potential. That's when I play really well. I'm a five handicap. A lot of times if I shoot 85, 90, those won't even affect your handicap because they take 10 out of the 20 and all the bullshit. So people just don't get it. But it is, like even Jay Go and yesterday, he's like, dude, I was reading through those comments and people were roasting you guys for your handicapped.
Starting point is 00:11:44 It makes no sense. My point about the, we show people how we got it's not like I just say I'm a nine and then you never see me play. So it's like this huge elaborate lie that like I put it out on the internet. I'm like here's the way I play guys. Just believe me. Like the number is just what the number is. And then I play on camera and I'm worse because I crumble under pressure. I'm a mental fucking nightmare.
Starting point is 00:12:08 And like I just don't play well on camera with you guys in matches. But like it would benefit me to have a higher handicap number in my. gin system because it would match my play on my on the camera like I have like you understand what I'm saying you're watching me play my number should be higher I want it to be higher I wish I was a 15 but I just put the numbers in and then it told me that I'm a four or five I also like I'm free to like shit on anybody that says like oh I'm a four just to brag about it's like I don't even want to be a four it no no offer that I'm a four because I don't even believe it myself that I'm like down that low but if someone is entering only like their good scores and just
Starting point is 00:12:47 every time you play like all they really want to say is that they're a single digit handicap to brag about it well then yeah shit on that guy because he's kind of a loser because he's just like propping himself up even though there's really nothing to prop up but we input the numbers that's what it tells us now you know what i want to be i want to be an 11 i think being an 11 handicap is perfect that's you're so lethal i meet someone and on the tee they say they're at 13 I'm like, eh, all right, that's like, I don't know that you're really a problem. They say that they're like a seven or an eight.
Starting point is 00:13:19 It's like, that's pretty low. You better be able to play. If you're an 11 and you play a decent round, you'll fucking dust people. Like, I want to be an 11. I think 11's perfect. You're getting a good amount of shots. You don't have to bedazzle anybody. Nobody's putting all this heat on you that you're some single digit superstar.
Starting point is 00:13:35 11. I want to live at the double hockey sticks. Just be an 11. That's kind of what I would like to do. Instead, like you're saying, like Frankney's saying, being a lower handicap, it just sucks. It's a shit spot to be. I said it in an interview like three years ago.
Starting point is 00:13:50 We launched like the Virtual Classic where I think of the time I was around a five or six. I said, yeah, it's the worst handicap you can beat. Because if you play people that are a little better, like a two, those people were very consistent and they're just going to beat you. And then if you play someone that's like a 10 or 11, like I'm saying, they get just enough strokes that if they play even decent golf, they'll just stroke you and you'll just lose. So I do think that those handicaps are the worst.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I have a little bit of a scouting report from yesterday. We've got the handicaps for our opponents. Jake Owen is a two. Darius Rucker is about an eight. Hardy's about a 10. And Morgan Wallen's about a 15. So I think if you actually, you know, do those numbers, it's going to be, it should be a pretty good match.
Starting point is 00:14:33 And you think after- it's 35 to 43. They get, like, they have an aggregate of 35 strokes, and we have 43 strokes. I don't know that really matters because like yeah I think it really comes down to like for the most part it's going to be I mean it's also skill sets right like we proved against Kizor that we are together a complete PGA tour player and one thing that makes me very nervous about what I saw
Starting point is 00:14:59 yesterday with Jay going is that his putting was not good his short game just in general like he didn't score well but he fucking stripes the golf like he was roasting it. I'm talking, he was hitting it farther than maybe anybody I've ever played with in person, hits the golf ball. Like, he hits it way farther than Kisner hits the golf. Like, significantly farther.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Really? Yes. That's interesting. Like, dude, on the first hole, I had a pretty good drive. And don't get me wrong, like Trent, or like, Frankie, Lurch, you guys are longer than I am, obviously. But, like, if we both hit good drives,
Starting point is 00:15:40 think it's like within a decent route like i had a pretty good drive on the first hole jay gole and was 60 yards ahead of it oh but he's hitting a what like 320 like dude he had to be hitting it at least when he hit a good one too he hits this high draw that's just in the air and then takes a big bounds he was hitting it miles like on one on the par five i think it was like the 11th hole i hit a good drive down the middle i had 262 flag he had 210 flag he had 210 flag So, like, I was hitting a three wood up just short of the green. He literally, I think, hit like a seven iron just like he pushed it a little right. I made birdie end up winning the hole.
Starting point is 00:16:19 But still, like, he had legit 40, 50 yards closer than I was on almost every T shot. It was. And so what I'm saying is in a scramble, the fact that he doesn't, he wasn't putting particularly well, like in a scramble when he's got other guys on his team, if he could just move it out there that far, that's going to be really hard for us to contend with. Like, he was killing the golf ball. I haven't swung a golf club in a month, month and a half, like at least a month.
Starting point is 00:16:51 No, it's wing foot was last time. When was that? So it's almost a month. No, that was probably a month ago, yeah. Yeah. Well, for a long time, it was looking like Lurch may or may not be able to make the trip, and I'm very happy that Lurch is able to make the trip,
Starting point is 00:17:07 because that makes things much more interesting because without him, me, Frankie and Riggs would be in a world of fucking trouble. Yeah. And Trent, I've seen you smirk for most of this podcast. You've been sitting there smirking it. I don't know what that smirk is in line with, but one quote that I vividly remember from the Kistur match
Starting point is 00:17:27 is you woke up, Frankie and I were kind of like talking about the match being nervous and you just had a breath of fresh air to you and said, you know, everybody else is nervous, but one thing that doesn't matter today is my. golf game so I feel pressure. I think this format changes is a little bit. I think there is a little bit more pressure on you to be part of the
Starting point is 00:17:45 team and I'm interested in terms of what your take is on that. No, yeah, I was very relaxed during the Kisner match and I kept saying I'm the glue guy, I'm the glue guy, and I think I still am the glue guy, but I'm going to have to make a couple, I mean, I'm going to have to contribute more this time around.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I don't know if that's going to happen. Chances are that it won't, but I'm going to, I definitely would like to contribute more, but at the end the day, I am a 25 and I'm terrible and you guys are the studs. So I'm going to be the positive vibes only. I'm going to be the glue guy, but I would like to contribute more. I hope it'll be a good match because I want it to be. And I'm confident that we're going to be all right. So there's some things about the notion of Trent was just kind of there in the Kisderman. That's just so blatantly false. I didn't make a put in the Kisner match. So the Trent
Starting point is 00:18:36 drilled like three or four. So exactly. And so I remember on the 13th hole where we had like a seven foot slider for Bertie and kids had like two feet up the hill for Bertie where Trent made that putt. I think he was putting second and drilled that putt. They're like if you don't make that, we probably don't make that put. There was also then the hole before that when Lurch hit that six iron from like 198 to two feet or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:19:06 we didn't have a single ball in the fairway except for Trent's. And that's why we were like 20 yards up. So Trent's T ball was huge there. And then the unspoken aspect of the four-man scramble that nobody ever talks about is like the comfort level of Trent drilling fairway after fairway all day, that changes everything for the rest of the group. Because then like Frankie stepping up there loose and in one of our longer hitters being able to just swing free and hit when I think all of that adds up and matters. So Trent, you're going to be huge tomorrow. I know that you're Mr. Glu and you are the best glue guy in the business,
Starting point is 00:19:40 but there's going to be some huge moments tomorrow for Trend Daddy and your golf game that we're going to rely on and I'm confident you're going to bring it again. If you guys looked at the match objectively, and I appreciate you saying that because I think it's true. I think we're going to be all right tomorrow. Do you guys look at it objectively? How do you think we're going to fare tomorrow?
Starting point is 00:19:58 Because you guys are better, because you got like, as we talked about, I think on the last podcast, which feels like a long time ago, you're the match guys. You guys know how this shit works really well. What do you guys think when you look at it, look at it objectively? It's tough because we don't know anything about those other guys' games.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah. Like, we knew Kisner's game inside and out. He's on TV every week. We know each other's games inside and out. We play dozens of rounds of golf together. We don't know these other three guys. Like, Jake O was talking issue. He was like, Hardy's game is stunning.
Starting point is 00:20:29 He's like, because that guy is kind of all over the place. He's like a total beauty. He's random. He's like, going to be tied. And he's like, and he can actually play a little bit. So I think that it's going to be, it's going to be tough. I think in the scramble format, it pretty much always comes down to putts. And I think when we were playing Pioneer's number two, it was a very unique, like the
Starting point is 00:20:51 average scramble, four-man scramble is played at like a charity event from 6,400 yards, and it's like who could shoot 58 and win. So it was such a unique experience at Pioneers No. 2 because we had a game plan of like, just hang on, try to shoot even par. and make Kisner have a great round of golf at a U.S. Open course from 8 million yards. This is going to be, I think, a little bit more of a classic. Like, we're going to have good birdie looks on almost every hole, I think, to some degree. And so we got to make putts.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And I like our chances from what I saw yesterday making putts more than I like their chances making putts. So I think we're going to win, but it's going to be a doozy. How long are we playing this thing? Yeah. I don't know yet. It's a good question. I don't even look at the scorecard. I don't know anything about the golf course.
Starting point is 00:21:39 It's a very different experience. That's the other thing is we're playing these fucking guys home course. It couldn't be more of a home course for them. Trubodore is like a country club, country star, like, it's like a family resort. They got the little wiffleball field there. This is a place that, who was telling us about it? Cold Swindale, I think, right? Cold Swindale and also I think Chey Mooney was saying about Trubador.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I think he was wearing the hat. I mean, this place is like this is there. their fucking playground. They know this place inside and out. Jake Owen probably plays more rounds at Troubadour than you played at Piner's, if I had to guess. Like, this guy probably lives at this golf course. And all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:22:17 we're stepping up to his home course. And now he knows everywhere, every single cut, every corner, every green, every slope, every bunker. Maybe a bunker's harder than another. Like, you know all the little intricacies of a golf course when you play there a lot. I'm not making excuses.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I'm just saying we have our work. I was also basing this match. Like when we played Kisner, it's a human being, it's one. Like a human is just going to make mistakes over the course of one round. Where like four, all playing is one, you think like you eliminate a lot of those mistakes. There are good golfers. So it's just going to be like if we don't play well, we're going to get. So are we.
Starting point is 00:22:53 We're good golfers. We are winners. We did it on a huge stage. We're on the feet. We got to get the confidence up here. What is, what are? No, no. So my confidence.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Kevin Kisner as a forcum. Right. I think my confidence was almost higher playing Kisner than it is playing these four guys. This is a tougher match, I think. Yeah. For sure. But that's fine. We really, we didn't give Kizner that putt on 17, that charity putt to set up the stage because we're performers.
Starting point is 00:23:22 We would have dusted Kiz, two and one, see you later. So now we've got a little bit taller task. It's like we're climbing through the ranks at, you know, the U.S. Amateur and match. play. We took care of one guy, and it's just survive in advance. March band, or anyone to call it, it's survive in advance. Our next match is for country megastars, which is fine, but it's just golf. We've got to hit the golf shots. We've got to make the putts and we'll win.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I put a little bit of a dagger in Jake Owen yesterday, getting three strokes. Thank you very much. And I think we could do the same thing tomorrow. I think that we're undefeated breweries. And that's because we know how to win. We are a complete golfer as four, not as one, not even close. But as four, we're a complete golfer. Lurch playing the best golf of his life.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Those long iron striped city. We've been getting that ball in the whole Trent Daddy and I, right, love to roll putts in. You guys stripe it. Frankie's going to hit several 300 plus yard drives. I remember on the 8th old kids and they're being like, of course, how to get all of a sudden out of the fucking clouds. Frankie hits a drive like 320 yards on the par five. and we had a little short iron into that one.
Starting point is 00:24:34 So we're going to be totally, totally completely fine. It's going to be a good match. People can follow on Instagram live. We're going to be going live all day. And then we've got more of a production behind the scenes you can imagine. We're micing up everyone in their grandmother in the state of Tennessee. We've got cameras that are going to be coming out of the goddamn trees. We're going to have drone footage.
Starting point is 00:24:55 We're going to edit that and put it out the following week. So tons of coverage coming up from this thing. there's a good There's a good chance we lose Frankie mentally because of the production He might just have a full blown mouthbound
Starting point is 00:25:07 That's something that needs to be accounted for in the odds And when people are picking Who's gonna win Is that like I know that I'm gonna be I mean I trust Jake and Brendan Our production has raised Its level immensely
Starting point is 00:25:20 In the last year And I think we're still fucking getting there We're all just trying to work together And like what's the best way To capture golf match This is a whole This is an eight-headed beast We've never done this before with fucking four country music superstars.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And then us four idiots, you got to get all that audio, all those shots, all those interactions. Everyone's in carts going all over the place. We got freelance audio guys, freelance camera guys. And I know my eyes are going to be going. I'm going to be trying. I'm going to be aware of you guys out. I know it's going to be happening. But hopefully I can just stay in line because we have a huge match to play.
Starting point is 00:25:53 And I need to be just mentally there. We also like, we need a good range session. We need good positive vibes. We need to wake up feeling good. We're going to be waking up in Nashville. A new city for me, never been to Nashville in my life. That should be fun. I heard we're like in the downtown area.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So at least you get to see some of that. I know it's not like, I mean, you're there right now. Is Nashville not Nashville? Like I'm sure like places aren't. I walked outside yesterday, which was Sunday morning when I got here. And I walked down to Broadway to get a little breakfast. And like, I don't know, it's like walk around Vegas at 9 a.m. on a Sunday. It's like there's not, no one ever wants to be doing that.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So the whole thing. thing was weird. Nobody was wearing a mask, which, I mean, I got, I just can't, I can't really afford to be getting coronavirus because of 14 day quarantine and all that. So the second that I was like, I was like walking in the middle of the street to go around pods of people that were standing on sidewalk just like without masks. So not that I'm some crazy neurotic. I just can't afford to get it. I got to fly. I got to be able to go around for work and do different things and whatever. So I can't, I just need to not get it. And that made me scared. So then I've just been, been in my hotel the whole time outside of playing golf club in Tennessee yesterday with Jake.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Other than that, I've just been pretty much in my hotel. But I think from what I've seen, I mean, people, when I went, I ended up just eating at the hotel bar here yesterday at like 11. In the brunch scene, like people were having drinks and music was playing and that was just at my hotel bar. So I think Nashville's going to be Nashville no matter what. I saw like some pretty people were getting a little political with my tweet of I think I just said like, I wouldn't call this place Massville. and people started like getting pretty like good that's right we're not afraid of that shit here I was like all right I'm not getting into this but I just don't want to get the virus that's really
Starting point is 00:27:37 all I care about and so I haven't really been out that much but I think people were doing the Nashville thing um okay I'm excited I'm excited to format scramble is back we get to try to do stay undefeated um it's going to be fun it's going to be a shit show but it's going to be fun I'll be stunned if we show up to that golf course and all four of those guys are playing against us. Like those names that we're playing like I could like I will be stunned if we go off without a hitch
Starting point is 00:28:05 and like Darius Ruckers just playing golf with us and fucking like Morgan Wall and stuff. Like to me I just think like I couldn't make it I'm a fucking superstar. Literally lick my ass. Like I don't care. Like I'm gone. I'm gone man. I'm going to fucking some island
Starting point is 00:28:19 to just drink pinnacle audits and play my little guitar. Like I'm not playing you guys in golf. That's what they should. should say because like i'm walking up there with this shitty fucking mustache and this shitting grin on my face with a fucking pack of jake and brenden and all these audio people are like we're here to fucking film golf and they're just these fucking superstars country music legends darius rucker was at hooty and a fucking blowfish are you fucking kidding me what are we doing here how do we get this guy jake owin jick owin his spotify is like
Starting point is 00:28:51 the biggest spotify like in country music it's crazy the guy puts out Bangor after bang. And we're saying Morgan Wallin is like the up and coming. I mean, Jake said he's like the new Florida Georgia line where every single person that's a fan of country music is like, holy fuck, this guy Morgan's on a heater right now. Hardy's a crazy person. I don't really know. I've seen his Instagram.
Starting point is 00:29:09 He's got the whole look. He's going to really intimidate me with his look. I've been trying to ignore the noise because I'm not a huge country music fan, but you can't deny Jacob and Dariusrucker. Like, but I'm just trying to ignore it all because if I start thinking about it too much, I'm going to be way, way too nervous to even, like, put my ball on a tee. But with guys like Dariusrucker and Jake Owen, and apparently Morgan Wallen is just this rocket ship, it's hard to deny the noise that these guys are just superstars, and I should be nervous to be around.
Starting point is 00:29:38 We're going to be busy. We're going to be busy. Just got to hit golf shots. That's what we're going to do tomorrow. So follow along. We're going to be putting the links up there. But the reason that we've got all these big names is to raise money. So please help us out.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Go to store. Dot barcelports.com. Click on the for Play link. get yourself a shirt. We got three different options on there. You can go to the link to Jake Owen's foundation website as well. There's auction items. There are t-shirts that you can buy and you can just donate. We're trying to raise as much money as possible. They can't do concerts. They can't do shows. They can't do events, which they usually use to drive money for awesome causes. He works really hard with his foundation, just like Kisner does, to really help people out. And so they need
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Starting point is 00:32:30 We're going to talk a lot about Big Cedar, about these Augustine National photos, about the Barclasic wrapping up, about what's going on in 2K. Here's Justin Rose. All right, folks. We're joined for the first time on the podcast by 2013 U.S. Open winner, Olympic gold medalist, Justin Rose. We're in Missouri, which is actually my home state.
Starting point is 00:32:50 We're in a bathroom, which is interesting. Have you ever been to Missouri before? No, I have not been in Missouri before. I just watched the show, Ozarks, so I kind of didn't know quite what to expect rolling in, but man, it looks incredible around here. Some of the views, especially this clubhouse, just looking over everything, it's unbelievable. Yeah, do you, I mean, this is a little bit of a TV event. You guys are going to have a fun match out there today.
Starting point is 00:33:13 When this comes out, people already have known the result. But for something like this, do you do any prep? I mean, I know you're coming off the U.S. Open, but are you kind of just coming in? And I feel like it's almost you're kind of a resort guest for the day where you're experiencing a course for the first time. 100%. I mean, listen, coming off the U.S. Open, I was kind of pretty happy to look outside from the clubhouse and see pretty wide fareways and not a lot of rough. So, you know, the tight fairways at Wingfoot didn't treat me so well. And, you know, looking forward to a totally change, you know, different change of pace, play with the lads.
Starting point is 00:33:39 But, you know, listen, we're in a time to prepare, but at the same time, you're playing golf with Tiger Woods, Roy McElroy or Justin Thomas. You know, you're going to want to get to the first tee in good shape. You're going to want to feel good. You're going to just playing golf for those guys, you know, kind of lights up the eyes, you know. So even though it's a hit and giggle and we're going to have some fun, you still want to give a good account of yourself. So, yeah, I guess after I'm done with you, I'm going to want to hit some balls today and try to iron out the swing and see what goes on. Do you play much kind of fun, hit and giggle golf, or is it more of a job, right?
Starting point is 00:34:07 because some guys are golf nuts and they're into kind of exploring courses around, but other guys are kind of nuts, my job. Do you know what? I'm the easiest guy to take 10 bucks from, 100%. Yeah. You know, there's no motivation when I play social golf. I just kind of go flat. You know, I don't even visualize my shot.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah, like literally, so I feel like sometimes it's a waste of time. But I enjoy it. Like, I treat it. I love going home. I love playing with my boys that I grew up playing with. It doesn't happen very often. So when I get that opportunity, it's more about just hanging with them. but like I said, I'm easy money.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So let's see. Hopefully today's got a little bit more to it than that. How different of a player are you without that focus, right? You just kind of mentioned something to me that was interesting about, you don't necessarily visualize your shots, right? And me, we're the classic weekend golfer, where when we go out, it's almost always with a couple drinks, and we're trying to shoot low scores.
Starting point is 00:34:58 But at the same time, you know, we're trying to play quick, and I'm not going through, right? You watch Golf Channel like, well, you need to really visualize and then don't step into a shot. unless you're 100% ready and I'm like, well, yeah, I'm just trying to break 82. So it's like, what do we do it? How different of a player are you if you don't sort of do what Justin Rose needs to do for every shot? I'm different for sure.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And I think the other thing is, you know, if you take me to a tough golf course or, you know, and give me a match against some good player, let's say scratch handicap, you know, I'm going to win all day long on the tough golf course. But, you know, you take me to, you know, regular golf club, the way the scratch handicap can shoot a couple under, suddenly I'm maybe going to shoot three or four under and he's going to take my money. So it depends on the venue and it depends. on the setting for sure and I feel like
Starting point is 00:35:37 the more chilled it is the more I just kind of like I just there's like a something that doesn't click but you know I think that that is the X factor right I think that is what I see in you know great players do you play with so there's so many talented guys out there so many guys that you see hitting balls in the range and you think if someone
Starting point is 00:35:53 told you they were the fifth best player in the world you'd be like yeah yeah cool I can see that but then they go play in a tournament they shoot 81 whereas they just shot 65 two days prior you know like in a hit and giggle so I'd rather it kind of click when you need it. But yeah, like I said, if you need a quick easy 10, give me a call. How often do you miss hit a shot? Often. I would say in a round of golf, I hit two golf shots
Starting point is 00:36:17 where I'm like, that was it. That was perfect. That was nice. Yeah. So, you know, I think they, you know, they do say like controlling your bad shots, if your bad shots get better, that's the measure of you as a golfer, you know. And I think the perfect, the really clean golf shots are few and far between. see, yeah, if you're really on your game, you might see more than two, but at the moment, I'd say two to three goal shots, I hit. And for me, it's like the spin rate. You know, it's just like it comes out on the right trajectory, and especially if it's windy, like doing exactly what it should do in the wind, holding the breeze, whatever it might be. So, you know, I'm definitely got quite a sort of a discerning eye in terms of like what I want to see. But you know,
Starting point is 00:36:56 as soon as you hit the ball, like, there's just something that feels sweet when it happens, right. That must be nice. That sounds great. So the open, you know, when you won at Marion, Is that week in terms of flush right? I think a lot of you coming down 18 in the comparisons, all the history, where your ball was and how you flush that thing. You know, are you hitting way more shots that week that to you are, you know, oh yeah, that's right on the button? Or is it more you just kind of scored better because it looked like you're hitting it pretty good? Yeah, it was an interesting week. You know, I spent a lot of time preparing for that tournament.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I kind of went to Marion early. I really tried to understand the golf course. And I, you know, I thought, man, this is the U.S. Open. How do I shoot even part, right? So I spent sort of the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, out there. I loved the golf course, fell in love with the whole place. You know, drove in as the members do, had lunch on the veranda, like first he's right there. But wow, Merion's a coolest place in the world.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Then went back to Florida for the weekend, and it rained a ton. And I put on Golf Channel Monday morning because I was flying back up Tuesday afternoon. And all I heard was, oh, it's going to be a blood bath around Marion. The guys are going to shoot like 15 under par, short, soft. I'm like, well, that was a waste of time. I've just tried to shoot even part. And I, like, build a strategy to shoot even par. I'm like, okay, well, it's too late to change my strategy now.
Starting point is 00:38:06 So I kind of went back up Tuesday afternoon, just committed to what I learned. And, you know, ironically, one over par one, the golf tournament. So fortunately, I didn't get wrapped up in all of that, you know, the hype of trying to shoot low. And I think that's what happened to a lot of guys. Marion is such a, like, it teases you that golf course. Like, there are so many short holes on it that you feel like
Starting point is 00:38:23 if you are three, four over and you're round, you've got an opportunity to maybe pull out the driver and make an easy birdie. But that course just eats you up if you do that. And, you know, the other thing is I bumped into a local caddy when I was there. And sometimes you just get these amazing little kind of golden nuggets that just sort of really framed the week for you. And he kind of told me, you know, Merion's like a great theatrical sort of play. You know, the first six holes of drama, the middle six, a comedy, and then the final six of tragedy. So I was like, it really kind of, yeah, it sort of really framed
Starting point is 00:38:51 how the golf course played because all the comedy holes are in the middle of the round. And the first day I teed off hole number 11, and I got to four over par early because I played all the tragedy holes. I'd played all the drama holes in the last sort of six whole or five holes in my round, I was finishing on the comedy holes. So I kind of knew I had the birdie chances coming. So even though I was four over, I stayed patient. I managed to birdie three in my last five and shoot 71, which is never going to lose the U.S. Open on a Thursday. So the fact that I met that guy, who knows how that changed my whole framework and mindset that week. But in terms of my golf, yeah, I just stayed patient, man. And all those cliches, you know, one shot at a time,
Starting point is 00:39:28 all the boring stuff I did well that week. But it, you know, it paid all. stuff. Yeah, that just gave me the chills. That caddy, that guy's getting, he's, wow, I wouldn't how many people he said that to before, but not one the U.S. Open. So I was there, it's crazy to think that that was only seven years ago. It was under 7,000 yards, and one over par, won it. I mean, how can they protect golf courses now with the equipment, with how good you guys are? Yeah, I mean, that's the topic in golf right now, right? Especially with Bryson just smashing it up around the, you know, around Wingfoot, six under par. I mean, I think six under par is incredible, and, you know, big props to him to clip the field by three shots playing in the last,
Starting point is 00:40:04 in the final group. I mean, shoot 60-7, that's unbelievable. But it's hard to, you can't, there was plenty of rough, and it was relatively firm. It could have been firmer, for sure, I think, Wingfoot, but there wasn't really much more they could do to defend that place, really, without taking it over the top, which I think the USGA has been criticized for in the past, you know. So I think, listen, even part of finish second, I think they set it up just right, and maybe there isn't a way to defend it.
Starting point is 00:40:29 But at the same time, Bryson putted his socks off as well. Like, he putted really, really well. So anytime a guy is able to, you know, get the ball in the hole, that's what the game's all about. You know, you can hit it as far as you won. But if you can't get in the hole, they're not going to work out too well. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:43 For me, firmness of greens is the only real challenge because then controlling your golf ball is important, and that is much easier out of the fairway. So, yeah, firm greens. That's the golf course. That's the only defense it has, I think, to us. I'm curious what a guy like you, You know, you're four years old. You've had a ton of success.
Starting point is 00:41:01 It's a couple of years ago you won the FedEx Cup. You're a major winner. Now you're looking at a guy like Bryson who made this extreme commitment to change his body, to pick up 20, 30 yards. And it's working. And it's not just working in Detroit where there's no rough, but it worked at Wingfoot, where it's his classic of a U.S. Open venue. You know, does that make you sort of look at your approach any differently or no? I mean, I think it's too late for me, unfortunately, to kind of go and do something extreme like that. Also, I kind of sit back and think, well, let's just see. Let's see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:41:34 You know, give it two, three, four years. Let's see what the shelf life is. And, you know, good luck to Bryson. I think it's awesome. But I'm kind of curious to see the journey that he's on now, you know, and just look back. And, you know, we've all seen, it's hard to stay healthy really throughout your whole career. I've had my share of injuries. Obviously, you know, T-dubs just walked in here a minute ago.
Starting point is 00:41:52 We all know he's been through it. Yeah, he was taking a piss while we were getting ready. He was, yeah, exactly. That was a first for us, like doing an interview while listening to that. So yeah, listen, like, let's just see how it plays out. But yeah, for me, I'm 40, I think if I was to go ahead and go do something crazy with my body, I don't have the adaptation in my system to handle that. I know I know I would probably break down at some point sooner down the road.
Starting point is 00:42:15 So, you know, I kind of have to do, unfortunately, the old-fashioned way now, kind of use a little bit of guile and wisdom and try to figure out how to beat him in different ways. So I've always been a guy, though, who's looked, try to turn over every stone to find improvement. and, you know, I've definitely gone down some paths. You know, I've kind of been one of the guys on the front end of Green's books and getting green scanned and, you know, creating my own books and trying to get information other guys don't have. So, you know, I give him a lot of credit for the way he's seeing the game. And I'm as interested in everybody to see how it plays out.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah, because you've always taken a pretty analytical approach, I feel like. Yeah. Relative to a lot of the guys out there, especially relative to the school of thought of, you know, feel and artistry and feel your way around. Not that you're abandoning that. I feel like you've always been pretty analytical. So it must be even a fascinating case for you to witness of someone like Bryson coming out and going extremely analytical. It is, you know.
Starting point is 00:43:08 But I sat with him actually Tuesday at the U.S. Open before he went and played a practice round. And he literally took two hamburgers to go, a chocolate bar and a protein bar. And he was like, oh, yeah, go, I've got to go, got to play nine holes. And I saw him walking down playing with Tiger. And I was kind of, but we were talking a little bit about strategy. And he was still very much committing to, I'm just going to get it as far down the hole as possible. and wedge it out of the rough onto the green. And I've played a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:43:30 I'm like, there ain't no wedging it out onto the green. You know, that sounds a little bit simple. Clearly you proved me wrong, you know. So I kind of was like almost sniggering to myself, like, yeah, good luck with that one. You know, and I was sitting on the couch on Sunday afternoon, and he was winning by six. So it was actually quite an ironic day. Gary Woodland and I played the final group of the US Open, obviously, at Pebble, which he won. And, you know, we're kind of both tied for the lead going into the back nine there.
Starting point is 00:43:56 And this year we were both drinking vodka crans on our agent's couch watching the TV. So slightly different Sunday for us. What is that difference, right? Like year to year, I mean, obviously the way that you play. But for you, I mean, it's, I feel like on that level, it's probably didn't feel like that big of a difference in the way that you're playing, your game. Yet the contrast between, you know, you two battling it out at Pebble on the cliffs of California
Starting point is 00:44:22 and you're just sitting there having a little vodka on the couch. For you, I mean, how difficult is it? that to have it be such a small difference yet it yeah it does hurt actually you know it's sort of it's good in a way it kind of fires you up because you know that that feeling of being irrelevant and literally watching from the outside looking in it's like it just feels you know you feel a little bit helpless like what you know but you don't want to continue feeling that way so it does it fires you up to kind of have to do something different work a little harder it's a wake up call as well so you know i've had moments like that in my career i remember like back in o six i missed three majors in a row
Starting point is 00:44:55 and I was first reserve or first alternate at the Open Championship one year and kind of hung around the whole day on the first team waiting for someone to pull out and I'm like this sucks like you know like to literally be a spare part you know and I think that that did it spurred me on and to the 2007 season I kind of got my game back started winning regularly and so sometimes you need moments like that you know not saying golf feels easy but when you have a consistently good period of time you can take it for granted so there's nothing sometimes a good kick in the you know what can be the right thing at the right time.
Starting point is 00:45:27 So I'm obviously an American guy. We're always rooting for the U.S. and everything that we do. Why have you been such a jerk to us in the Ryder Cup? You know, it's been a pleasure. Sorry. Sure it has. No, you know what? I think I love playing my golf in America, man. It's the place to play.
Starting point is 00:45:47 It's the atmosphere, the energy that you guys bring to sport in general, actually, is unbelievable. And the Ryder Cup, I think, is transcended golf, right? It's a sports crowd that turn up there. And, you know, it's one atmosphere that I relish playing in, and I'm also terrified to play in at the same time. Is that the most nervous that you get? Yeah, it brings out that kind of, it's hard to, you know, listen, it's hard to play in front of a US crowd.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And I think that people think the Europeans have been really dominant in the Ryder Cup. But if you look at, I think, from 2008 at Valhalla onwards, it's gone with home course advantage, except Medina. And Medina was an anomaly, in my opinion. Like we were getting our whatever's kicked, right? Big time. I remember playing that Ryder Cup and walking from a green to a tea or, yeah, from a green to a tea on the Saturday going, really?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Like, have I spent two years of my life trying to qualify for this? This is, you know, I was so miserable. And then Sunday came around and that big comeback that we had, you know, turned from one of the most miserable weeks I've had on a golf course to the most incredible day I've ever had on a golf course. But my point saying all that is that I think that one Sunday has swung, like the feeling of the Europeans being dominant over the Americans in our favor, but really it's been home course advantage.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It's been very matched. And I've got to say, obviously, Rider Cup would be this week, right? So I'm pretty happy that it isn't because the U.S. team is looking pretty strong right now. And I'd say a European team, not so much. So maybe a little bit of a year, a year of different momentum is exactly what we need right now. It's just interesting. I remember back to that and those putts that you made and the back and forth with, I mean, it was just, it's something. And I feel like that we'll never, like, I don't know that I'll ever witness a day like that of golf.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And it was like, man, these guys just aren't going to miss. And it's so it's, I feel like every time I see you in the Ryder Cup, I'm like, oh, that's a loss. It's just every time. So, so, yeah, it's just so curious what that is. And it's so respectable. It's so cool. And it's to be on that level, you know. And yeah, we are always rooting for the U.S.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But at the end of the day, I mean, we talk about Ian Poulter on our show all the time. We have reasons to. to dislike him, but on some level, when the writer cut comes around, we're like, well, I mean, how can you not respect this guy? Yeah, exactly. You've got to respect it, right? You know, someone at least gives their heart and soul and, you know, leaves it all out there on the court or on the course, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:48:05 You know, you've always got to respect athletes like that. So, I mean, I don't know what it was about that particular day, but there was definitely something about Sevi that day, you know, the late great Sevi and, you know, Jose Marie Lafabelle was our captain, and, like, he just needed to win. I don't know what it. He was so emotional. He was so into it. He had to do it for SEVI.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Like it was his big way of kind of honoring SEVI. And I remember looking at the crest that we had on my, I think it was our left sleeve. I remember looking down at it a couple of times in my match and just sort of what would SEVI do? You know, to come and do it for SEVI. Like there was that weird, mystical kind of feel in the air of you're doing it for us, you know, like a bigger purpose, you know. And yeah, that match against Phil was unbelievable. I still remember walking up to the 17th T and I was won down. You know, and when you're one down to play, sometimes if you say,
Starting point is 00:48:50 okay come on let's at least get a half out of this game i remember pushing myself so hard to stay aggressive because i knew that half wasn't good enough like we were four points down every match you know had to kind of be one and i remember just thinking come on stay aggressive stay aggressive stay aggressive when i made that part in 17 i also really vividly remember going okay that's just got you all square like in my inside of me i wanted to go and do like a cannonball into the lake like literally i was like jumping around inside that would have been something yeah that would have something but I had this like really defiant slow swagger kind of to pick up my ball and then walk to the 18th tier as slow as I possibly could to try and get my heart rate down because making that
Starting point is 00:49:26 punt 17 means nothing if you lose 18. So those are my memories of it. But listen, it doesn't always work out that way. Ricky Fowler beat me in the last singles. Webb Simpson kicked my ass in the in the last you know in France. So you know that keeps you keep you humble right. And so but yeah I've had good partners as well. I've played with Henry Stenson, me and him gel. I've played with Polter who wouldn't want to play with him. Me and him have jelled well in the alternate shot in the four balls. So yeah, I mean, I've earned my fair share of points, but at the same time, you never underestimate the Americans. Does Henrik keep it light out there? Is he get some laughs out of here? I've heard he's a pretty... He's funny, but he's dry, you know, and it just, he's not sort of
Starting point is 00:50:07 cracking jokes, but he'll just say something in a situation that just makes you crack up, you know, and he won't even crack a smile. Under those sunglasses, you don't even know if he's... You know, it's like wearing a mask. You know, if someone's smiling, like, you know, some people smile with their eyes and you just can't tell with Henrik, you know, that's why he's called the Iceman, but he is a legend. And obviously, my Caddy Fooch at the time and his Caddy Lordy, who ironically now caddies for me, it was like more than just me and Henrik, it was the four of us going out there. You know, we're all good friends and, you know, that kind of energy worked well. Awesome. Talk to me about the Rose Ladies series. Yeah. It kind of came out nowhere, to be honest with you. And I just sort of had
Starting point is 00:50:44 this feeling of almost guilt in a sense of right you know we're coming out lockdown um PJ tours up and running I have the opportunity to get back to work millions of Americans and people around the world were losing their jobs um I looked at sort of professional golfers as a whole and was like man I've really got an opportunity that not many others have you know I'm playing for seven million a week and a lot of my peers especially the ladies are just there they're sitting there with no opportunity so um there was a you know a lady called Liz Young who was trying to scratch around some of the girls and lived in England to put up their own money to play for. So I thought, okay, well, I'm happy to match that,
Starting point is 00:51:20 just to kind of give it a little bit more interest for them. And then it just grew into something. Like, there was more need, and we realized that the ladies weren't going to play for three or four months. So we just tried to put on a series that gave them something to practice for. Because it's not like you go back to work, you turn on your laptop, and you're ready to go back to work, like some other jobs.
Starting point is 00:51:36 You know, it's a goal to any sport, a skill set that you need to maintain. And you can only maintain that by having a scorecard in your hand and put in the reps. that's what the rose lady series was all about was just trying to create the opportunity to to keep the skill sets sharp and prepare the girls for the bigger events down the road well it's a really really cool thing that you guys did thanks man yeah a lot to a lot of people no that's cool and my wife got right behind it obviously you know sort of obviously in quality for women and opportunity and all of that stuff and you know my agents and you know paul mcdonald back in the
Starting point is 00:52:05 UK I mean they spearheaded it obviously I was out playing on tour most of the time but a lot of people worked hard on my behalf so it was cool that's awesome well great work um we really appreciate you taking the time. Thanks. It's a lot of fun. Yeah, it's good to be a part of it, man. Cool, thanks. Good luck going forward and we'll be following you. We'll be rooting for you except for the right. I'll accept that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. A big thanks to Justin Rose for joining the show. He was great. He was smooth. He told cool stories. You're not sure. Justin Rose, I mean, I guess he could be occasionally when you're watching. He's pretty quiet. You might not know that you're going to be. It's true.
Starting point is 00:52:40 He's like one of those English cats. Just like proper cat he was uh aristocats is one of my favorite Disney shows just a nostalgicist not it's not like one of my favorites but like you say Aristocats I'm like oh yeah I used to watch out when I was a little like a baby
Starting point is 00:52:57 you know a little baby you barely got those words out well I was just trying to say baby like what's her name from Schitt's Greek from Schitt's Greek Moira? Moira she's like the baby the baby is projectile vomiting
Starting point is 00:53:11 anyway I was trying to do a whole buffet that didn't work out I got a little thing in my throat there. But Aristotacats, Justin Rose, also kind of crazy to see just him in the mix just like with a Barstle person because, especially with Rags and on 4Play, because he's just like that name. He's like, you think of like non-American, like when you're watching the Masters or like the US Open, you're like rooting for your home home guys. And then Justin Rose is always that guy where he's like, ah, like you don't want Justin Rose to win
Starting point is 00:53:39 because he's like, he's on their team. Like I've always, that Justin Rose has such a like European. and like just like everything about his look is just like he's the other guy and I never thought in a million years he'd be just like on our pockets I almost like he didn't do like a bad podcast and stuff like you know right and like barstool is very much not going to be on their radar for british like European Ryder Cup golf guys media consumption is not going to be barstool sports so it was like I gave him a little brief before of kind of what we do and he said you know I talked to my team a little bit I have a decent idea
Starting point is 00:54:14 now. So again, going into it, I didn't really know. I was like, is this going to be pulling teeth? And it was kind of people were asking, how long do you think this is going to be? I was like, well, it could be 10 minutes or it could be 30, just bending. I don't know. We'll see if he answers any questions. And the second that we hit record, he was just awesome. He was smiling. He was chatty. Tiger came in and legitimately took a piss right behind us while we were recording, which was a new for us. Have we, do we have any update on the Tiger story from the last podcast that we want to let people know about? Yeah, we do. We have a text that Robbie Mac sent that said, it's funniest and best for all to leave it in limbo.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So he... Now, that text right there completely puts Jake's story in the right, I think. I think that that means that because if he was your boy, which he is, and he knows what happened, he would just be like, No, no, like I was there. Like, wouldn't he, like, clear it up? I feel like the fact that it's in limbo, to me, makes it like, all right, he's not going to, like, throw you under the bus, but he's also not going to, like, conf-you- know what I mean? He's not going to, like, live for you.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I just don't, I don't know. I, you know, like, I don't know what. I also don't know what text was sent to him, right? Like, I don't know how it was phrased exactly to him. And, like, by the time that got to him, it's a little bit of a weird, like, hey, these losers want to know the semantics of how this interaction went down. And he was just like, I'm just going to, I'm just going to leave this in Limba. I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Now, I agree with you, Frank. Like, it would have been great if he just said, no, no, I didn't say a word. But that's not what happened. So people can kind of read into it however they want. When you- has called me seven times in a row. I have to answer this. Isn't that like where Facebook is?
Starting point is 00:56:07 Like, isn't that like Silicon Valley or something like that? I think, I don't. I got to answer this phone call. I think when time machines eventually get invented, whenever that happens, hopefully it happens during my lifetime, I think the first place I go is to that interaction between Riggs, Tiger, Jake, and Robbie Mack. There's many points in history that I could go back to that would be maybe more interesting to other people. You could go back when they're building the pyramids. You could go back to whenever you would want. But I think the one place, the first place I'm going to go is Big Cedar Lodge and to the exact moment where Riggs,
Starting point is 00:56:42 and Tiger Woods are waiting to go to the bathroom and then just see what happens. Yeah, you know, the only way, the only way that it went down the way Jake says he thought it went down is if he just saw something that I didn't see, which is quite possible because I was so fixated on Tiger Woods right in front of me on the fact that I just shot my little shot and he just didn't hear me. And then I'm looking at him like, oh no, oh no, what do I do? And the next thing I remember is he finally did shift his focus like a transformer or like an Imperial Walker from Star Wars. When they just like focus on a new target, Tiger just turned his focus towards me and just gave it like, Rigsie, what's up? And that I just was giddy.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I almost melted into the floor in the moment. So if Jake saw something where he saw Robbie Mag in any way give like that's Riggs. then like that's irrefutable. And so if he saw that, that's just, that's just what happened. I didn't see that. So to me, Tiger Woods looking to go to the bathroom, gets denied, which is one of the most amazing things I've ever seen, is now just technically, if we're doing technicalities, he's now just behind rigs in line to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Like, I'm actually in line before he is. And he's now finding a new route. He's now in his brain going, wait a second. I'm Tiger fucking Woods. hey, Robbie, is there a way Tiger Woods, the king of the world, can go to the restroom? And then he tries to get an answer to that.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And then his next focus is there's a human standing right in front of my face. And then the word that comes out of his mouth is Rigsie what's up. So to me, that's what I saw. I don't know anything else. I can't attest to anything else. You're a smart way. Believe it that way. There's no sense to bring in the other party. Just believe it the way you want. I mean, that's a dream life.
Starting point is 00:58:35 It's a dream experience. There's no sense to ruin a dream with just hearsay. Jake ruined it when he got called over on the last podcast. It was just quite a moment when he came over and refuted this story. What an idiotic thing to say from Jake? First of all, Trent's drinking the biggest water joke in the history of the world right now. It's like the water joke, you're drinking the water jugs that you have in your house
Starting point is 00:58:59 that like pump out, like you turn them upside down and then you hit the button. Dr. Dr. Dr. Dr. Curing a water cooler water. It's a huge. It's a gallon. I've been trying to drink a gallon of water a day. I'm trying to be healthy. It's not going well. We always, I always update this diet. We have things right up at the top.
Starting point is 00:59:13 What do you mean you drinking a gallon? I'm sure. I filled it up right before we started. It's hard to drink a gallon of water. What? Sink water? Yeah, it's sink water.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Oh, Jesus. Oh, it's that nice, dude. Oh, Jesus. It's delicious. Oh, that is delicious. Oh, God. I have that take, Frankie.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You can't, your big claim is that pizza is so much better in New York because your water is better. It cooks. It cooks. It's saying he can't drink the water? It cooks. It's in the ovens. It kills all the stuff. It's fine. You don't, it's not, you're not drinking it straight from the dirty-ass faucet in his apartment. Also, we have these huge filtration systems at the restaurant. There's no way in a million years what he's drinking out of there. A restaurant in Missouri can't have filtration system that would just make the water just as good. Listen, I'm not going to get into the water debate again.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Listen, I don't want to do the way. We all know the stats back up what I'm saying. There's like more minerals and shit. Dude, dude, I don't want to get into the water debate again either. But I live. in New, I live in Manhattan. If this water wasn't healthy, they wouldn't be given this shit to us. We'd all be dead. It'd be like a Batman movie where they'd poison the water supply. Like that is just not a thing that's possible because literally millions of people are depending on drinking this water. And if it was, if something was going wrong, this whole place would melt down. I understand that. I'm just saying that if you have the choice to eat, to drink something that is completely filtered, but you know is filtered, right? It's coming out of a fucking,
Starting point is 01:00:34 It's in a clear-ass fucking cup or a plastic, whatever, bottle. Or you're taking this water out of this old-ass faucet in this apartment building that you just fucking rented this apartment. When's the last time that thing's fucking been replaced? It's just going through the rusted fucking pipes. There's no way in a million years that that is better than drinking something out of a bottle or a completely filtered water system. There's no way. Can't argue that. Grow some hair on those little baby nuts of yours.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'm just drink water out of the faucet. You can say that, but you... I need filtered water. I need a, just drink a little bit of water out of the faucet and keep it fucking moving. That's fine. You can say that. That's fine. If you want that take it, then you just lose the debate about the filtration,
Starting point is 01:01:18 filtered water. Filtered water. Filtered water. No, but you argue it both ways. That's what I'm trying to say. You just blatantly contradict yourself. I don't. I still think that it's a higher level of water, which is why bagels and pizza are better.
Starting point is 01:01:32 But I also think that that goes into, like, food. And like at that point, I don't, I'm not drinking it straight out of like the faucet. So like at Borrelli, why would wash my hands? And like we have like filters at Borrelli's that like the water goes into the dough and stuff. Like that's just like how the restaurant operates. Here's the thing. Oh. I've been drinking.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I fucking wash my hands, my dirty ass hands underneath this faucet. I like, and then all of a sudden I like go into there and like drink out of there. I mean, what is this fucking? What am I drinking out of a well? I have been drinking dirt from your hands up into the faucet. Like it just goes in. of the drink. I have been drinking a gallon this water a day and I'm a picture
Starting point is 01:02:08 of health so case closed, all right? I don't think that you get sick from drinking, though. I think that you're fine and I think it's probably perfectly normal. I'm just saying that aesthetics-wise and like going up to the sink, like the fact that you can just drink water out of like the bathroom sink to me
Starting point is 01:02:24 is fucking crazy. Do you never drink water out of the hose as a kid? Maybe when I was a fucking like juvenile like tea, like a like an idiot, like a fucking, a rabid little fucking adrenaline. So you're saying, yeah. Maybe I'm like, ah, I'm taking the hose and just shoving into my mouth. I don't think that that's like, you know, I'm not putting it in a wine glass and sipping on it at dinner. No,
Starting point is 01:02:45 I'm not doing that. I just think if you, like, walk into the same place that like poop particles are and you're drinking the water out of that, that's crazy to me. How much you charge it? How much is Beryl is charging for the clean water? We should be because the fucking, no one's going out to dinner anymore. So you want to get into that fucking argument. No, no, we don't have to do that. I got something unrelated I want to talk about. It's Peter Malar and their natural touch polo. So wildly different. But look, Peter Malar is the best. Okay, they honestly, genuinely make the apparel that I'm craziest about. From their pants to their shorts to their vest.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Jake Owen was wearing a really nice Peter Malar vest that we make, first of all golf. Yesterday, people were going out of their way. Say, holy cow, he looks great. Where's that? Their quarter-zips, the Perth that's in the rafters have all created apparel in the history of the world for a reason. And now we can talk as well about their natural touch polos. Cotton-like comfort on and off the course in their dryerless natural touch performance polo crafted from a unique performance fabric provides the breathability, softness, and lightweight feel of cotton. Our very good friend, Kevin Kisner himself, decided this year to just get his NASCAR-like logos that he's got all over, like he's playing in a European hockey team.
Starting point is 01:03:58 he decided to get all those logos put all over all kinds of different Peter Millar gear you know why because they make the best stuff you go to pinamalar.com slash foreplay you're going to use the code for it check out you're going to get a complimentary performance hat but we have them curate that link so that you can see a lot of our favorites they got the EB 66 five pocket pants I also love the Kirk's the Kirk's are coming out this fall they got the different colors kind of the the maroon the gray, the kind of fallish colors, brown is a good one that you can try with Peter Malar. I highly, highly, highly recommend that you give their stuff a try if you have not yet. Go to petermalar.com slash four play. Use the code four. Check out the natural touch polos and all their other stuff. Big Cedar. I know we talked about it briefly last time, but Jake and I were there. It's my home state. It's about four hours away from St. Charles, Missouri, which is where I grew up, they made the conscious effort four or five years ago to invest heavily in golf. They had Corchranshaw came in, designed Ozarks National.
Starting point is 01:05:07 That's where Phil Mickelson won his senior tour event, if you recall, like a month or so ago. It's phenomenal. It's like, looks like it just falls off of earth. Jake was like, I didn't know this type of terrain existed in the Missouri Ozarks. It was really, really cool. I've been trying to get there for a while over the last, like, years. or so, like I said, since they kind of, they have Buffalo Ridge, which is, I think, the number one ranked public golf force in the state of Missouri. Then they added Ozarks National last year,
Starting point is 01:05:34 and then they just opened Paines Valley, which you guys saw the footage. People have been posting photos that 19 holes all over the place from the masks that they had, the Paines Valley Cup. But just being there, it immediately elevated it to a top destination for me up there with, you know, the top handful in the country that we've talked about a good amount. But I had to give Big Cedar kind of their, the credit that they deserve. It was really cool seeing it. It was part of the country that I think most people weren't familiar with. I think a lot of people think like Missouri and Nebraska, Kansas,
Starting point is 01:06:09 all these flat parts of country, you wouldn't expect out of that mountainous terrain. And it just fucking blew us away. So I hope that it looked as cool as it came off. What do you, you nod on your head there, Frank? Well, when he just lumps those all together, it's a very much of a lump together type of sentence there. you just name all those states, Missouri, Iowa, Kansas. That's why I did that because you like pampered elitist,
Starting point is 01:06:34 like east coasters, just look at the rest of the country. You think they're not capable of coming up with good food, having cool terrain. You just think Long Island is the only place in the world with eastern water, even though you won't drink it. It's crazy. Oh, God. I will say Big Cedar.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I can't tell you how many times I've texted someone this weekend or last weekend. saying that it's the ultimate like place to go now it's it's shot to the top of my um bucket list of golf courses you have to go play tiger wins's golf course you have to stay in those lodges you have to overlook all those little mountains and the hills and the trees you have to go see marty bird and and and wendy and the ozarks you got to just get into the mix you got to see the lakes you got to see the boats the whole thing i mean even even um was a caleb's video when he was in the ozarks he like went to like the people waving on the boats like that even though that was like a funny like commuting video, like the lakes there look fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Everything about that place looks cool. I really want to go there. I actually think I'll end up going there on like a family vacation pretty soon. Like I think we were like looking at lodging last night. Like last night I was like, we got to go to this place. Like, like I just don't know. What's the best time to go to Big Cedar like weather-wise? Like it probably gets pretty fucking cold there, right?
Starting point is 01:07:48 It definitely gets cold, but I would say, I mean, right now is probably ideal. Even if you waited a couple weeks because you get the fall. foliage in that part of the country is off the charts. So I would say September, October is probably going to be the best time of the year by far. It was like 70 or so when we were there. And I think it's only going to be hotter now. I'm actually going back amazingly, which worked out really well. I'm going back for a bachelor party in like a week and a half. My boy, like my best friend growing up from the St. Louis area, my guy Pete, was supposed to do his bachelor party at the Ryder Cup this year. They had the whole thing planned out.
Starting point is 01:08:26 to do Ryder Cup. They're huge golf guys. And obviously that got next. The wedding's still on. So we tried to pivot. And then when all the golf was going on, we're like, let's go to Big Cedar. So we've had this book for several months. And then last minute came the Payne Valley Cup. So I made like a pre-trip. But I'm going to go in like a week and a half for a bachelor party and play all the courses. And I'll report back on kind of the weather. Hopefully some fall foliage comes in by then. But I agree with you, Frankie. Like I think the amount of response I got and we all got, from posting photos, looking at clips from that match. People are like, okay, Big Cedars now just the number one place to go to, I think,
Starting point is 01:09:03 off in the country. It has to be. It's awesome. It's awesome. It's also a family place, too. You can take girls there. You can take your parents there. They have spas.
Starting point is 01:09:12 They have, like, little things to do in, like, the rivers and the lakes and stuff. You can, like, the restaurants look awesome. The lodging looks insane. It can fit a bunch of people in one big lodge. So it's awesome. We just need to, does Big Cedar Lodge like, like, us does Big Cedar Lodge like the podcast? Are they friends of Foreplay? They're very much friends of the program. That's awesome. And us talking about them right now,
Starting point is 01:09:35 this is like how, so people understand this is how we become friends with places like this. You just talk about the podcast and, you know, make their reservations go through the roof and crash their fucking website. And then they're like, please come back whenever you guys watch. I'll change my name to Big Cedar Frankie. I'll fucking I'll drink water out of the fucking faucet. Yeah, there we go. Dude, that place looks incredible. I'm all about, Instagram story pictures. I'm all about getting that picture on the, like, Riggs put up one, like, from outside his, like, patio overlooking just like the Ozarks.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Like, that's some fucking cool shit. That's some fucking shit. That course looks like a video game course. Like that, whenever we all be created in this world, and then it's created. And like, in lieu of everything that we're doing with 2K, it's, it's very much like someone just created that and then paid for an architect and builders to go make that somehow possible in the real world with a limited budget. Because I would love to know how much that golf course cost to make.
Starting point is 01:10:31 An architect and PGA 2K Tour actually told me that like that golf course, Payne's Valley is not even, you're not even able to make that in the video game. It's so unrealistic. Like the 19th hall and like the way that like it's like the eroded wall or whatever that is. Like that's not even, that's not even something you can do in video games. Like you can't build that.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And also like the undulations, like you wouldn't be able to figure out how to get, get it that high. Basically, it's above the trees from what I saw. Dude, it's also hilarious because Bill Corman, Ben Crenshaw, are minimalist when it comes to golf course. They love to say that they just found the golf course within the land and just put, like, they're minimalist and they love that. And then right next to it is just a golf course that is so unrealistic.
Starting point is 01:11:20 You can't even make it in a fucking video game that's created to make unrealistic golf courses. Like, it is, it was so surprising when I got there because I knew that about Corkrents, I know that land and knew that it was going to be cool already. And the tiger course is outrageous. Like some of the, it's borderline, I would say borderline Vegas-esque with the waterfalls and with the like blasting through the rock. And then they even put a couple pontoon boats in the pond that like they just, you just can't boat there.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Like, there's no, there's not even a way to get to the boats. During the, during the match, they cut to one of the boats in one of the, like, little lakes,
Starting point is 01:12:04 and there was nobody on it. There was just nobody out there. And it was like a ghost ship. It was, that's literally what you do in 2K, when you're building, you can just put a boat, like, in a little river,
Starting point is 01:12:13 and, like, you just know no one's on. It's just a fake boat. It's like, I mean, I think Tiger, like, downloaded Tiger, like, PGA Tour 2K
Starting point is 01:12:20 and was like, just, all right, let's just see what we can fuck around with over here. Like, oh, let's put a boat over here. Now, what was so cool about that is one of my complaints with certain, like, Vegas-y-type courses, and it's a little gaudy, is that there'll be target golfy and really tight and sort of gimmicky.
Starting point is 01:12:38 And it was that cool, like, mountain golf-type feel where you're going through the different, the rocks and the blasted out rocks and the caves. But the fairways were massive and firm, and the green complexes. were large with like there's no real rough around them it was mostly these really tightly moan areas like trent we played at blue jack national love that place favorites yeah so it was like blue jack kind of meets like arrowhead in in colorado like one of these mountain type courses so i loved it and i didn't like when i played shadow creek for example is kind of a classic like Vegas example of like if you look at before and after photos of of shadow creek shadow creek shadow creek was just one like
Starting point is 01:13:20 block of just sand in the desert flat and then a few years later it was just this crazy golf course with green fairways trees streams ponds running through it that the difference like i wasn't obsessed with that golf course it felt very fake to me and this one felt significantly more natural even though you know that it took a ton of work to blast through the rocks and at the end of the day like I love waterfalls waterfalls are beautiful I like streams there's a few different holes man where your cart like when you drive from green to tebox you drive through a stream where they made it like just just like streaming up where it rolls through your tires and you go through like some rocky stuff so it's just like you're in that that area and like frankie said there's fishing you rent a boat so like
Starting point is 01:14:12 when we go for this bachelor party we're just renting a boat to go out on table rock lake in the afternoon there's like horseback riding there's skeet shooting like there's all kinds of stuff that you could do a big cedar so we were blown away skeet shooting your eye you can now do it
Starting point is 01:14:26 I might be better now should I try it I think you absolutely should try it one of my great shortcomings I was always a horrible ski shooter I wasn't am I remembering it incorrectly where you said one of your reasons for getting your eye fixed
Starting point is 01:14:40 was so you could become a better skeet shooter it was like the so the way your dad could respect you when you guys went ski shooting that's what of you couldn't understand why you couldn't do it it was like that's correct it was like my dominant eye i had to look like across the barrel and so i was just the worst skeet shooter all the time whereas i guess with the surgery it was supposed to be better with your whatever vision depth vision or something and so that in theory i should be better now
Starting point is 01:15:11 i'll try it out at the matcher party hope i don't kill somebody you're gonna be dead aim dead aim dead aim that thing. Big Cedar Lodge, man. What a name that is, too. It feels like one of those places that you went to as a kid, like just like a big lodge. I think there was a place, Wolf Lodge or something like that. And the commercial was like, go to the lodge.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Go to the lodge. Go to the lodge. Go to the lodge. And whenever I hear Big Cedar Lodge, I think of like an indoor water park. But then you look at it online and it's like, it's just the best outdoor place of all time. It's like sponsored by Bass Pro Shops.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Like everything about it is Missouri outdoors. But then also it just looks fucking cool. It just looks cool. It is cool. And you're right. So the, so essentially big cedar and bass pro shops are founded and owned by the same guy. So this guy, Johnny Morris, who's like a legend of the area, Springfield guy, who's like a billionaire. He's the one who was giving a speech with Tiger and those guys.
Starting point is 01:16:13 and he owns founded Bass Pro and then founded Big Cedar and has made the investment to bring all the golf and all of that together. And I would say, I think you're right for you. In terms of just outdoor place, like the cabin that Jake and I stayed in was awesome. And when you're in it,
Starting point is 01:16:30 it's got like, you know, mounted fish and like different hooks and all kinds of bait. Like that's kind of the theme is that you're outdoors, fishing, hunting, skeet shooting, all that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 01:16:41 So it's a very cool place. It was awesome. be there. They actually, their website crashed. So during the Paines Valley Cup, everyone was having the same felt that we're having right now. So they had planned for a massive increase. And I guess it was like 4x what they expected. So their website just crashed because so many people were trying to make reservations at Big Cedar. So if you are trying to get like, you might want to do it sooner rather than later because I think it's going to be damn booked for a long time. But yeah, the place was sweet. It was very cool to be there. Augusta National. So,
Starting point is 01:17:13 some photos surfaced, people freaking out about Augustin National being completely brown from some aerial shots. It is kind of staggering to see. But I've been looking at photos and scouring the internet for enough years to know that this is just normal is what Augustin National looks like. Late summer, they do the overseeding. We had a grand idea to do a new segment called Bonafrin, where I believe an agronomist at Wingfoot or who was working at Wingfoot during the Osop. was talking with Frankie and said, hey, whenever you guys talk about different grass, mowing grass, grain, I think was one of the big issues, he said, rather than hear you fucking idiots try to break down what it is and be completely wrong and me want to scratch my eyes out and my ears
Starting point is 01:18:00 and not be able to hear words anymore because of how dumb you guys are, call me. And I will just explain in two and a half seconds the truth behind what you guys can't get to and seem to grasp in your tiny brains. And so we had the plan to call and have him explain why I got the looks like it does right now and overseeding. But I believe we can't get him on the line. Is that correct, Frank? Yeah, I can't get him on the line right now.
Starting point is 01:18:25 It was one of those things where it was like we talked at Wingfoot. It was a great idea. And then like now I have to like message him through his Twitter and never got his number. So I know he's going to see that message and get pissed because he probably knows we're talking about something that he could just answer in a second. I did text one of my super friends. I just wrote, and these guys probably think I'm a fucking. Like a super friend?
Starting point is 01:18:43 Like he's like better than a normal friend? He's not in the boy. He's not in the, he's not a soup. He's not in the boys on that. That made me instantly think of the boys. He's not a fucking soup. And I wanted to drop a C word because they dropped the C words like a motherfucker in that boys, man.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Holy shit is that. How far along are you all the way caught up? Yeah, season two episode six. Boy, do they drop that C word a lot? It's crazy, man. That's a crazy show. So it's like one of the crazy shows I've ever watched. I can't believe what they show.
Starting point is 01:19:11 Like people die and like people's getting their head ripped apart and stuff. It's nuts. So I just write, I write things like an idiot. It's like we basically explain this like I'm a five year old. I wrote doing pod now. How come Augusta is brown? I wrote 40 something days out.
Starting point is 01:19:26 How does it turn green? Right? So it's just like. I know. I text like English is your second language. I don't know. You know why I text this guy, Luke who's at Rockville,
Starting point is 01:19:34 links and he's actually one of, he was the first like, He was the first in the first crew to work under Steve Rabbit is. So he, like, is built from that same cloth. He, like, knows how much of a crazy operation is over there. So I really respect what he has to say about it. And I, he's a green texter. Oh, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:19:53 He's a, wow, you really can't see anything there. I'm trying to show up my phone. This camera stinks. So he's a green texter. So actually, I write down. I speak down to those people. I don't use full sentences. I feel like I'm talking to my dad or, like, my grandpa.
Starting point is 01:20:06 Like, it's like, do. doing pod now, Augusta Brown, why? Like, because I just think, like, if you have an android, you can't, like, have a confidence sentence. You're like, you're not speaking correctly. So anyway, he basically didn't really answer what I was asking. He said, because Augusta is always overseated, which you said, and it's really tough to keep rye grass all the time so green.
Starting point is 01:20:27 So apparently what they were explaining to me, and I'm sure this is well known, is that it's not, that grass is not supposed to survive in Augusta, Georgia, that rye grass. It's not supposed to be able to. survive. Right. Overseeding the way I understand it, they do at kind of the beginning of the fall in places around the country where dormant grass will just not grow during the winter times. And so they just put in different grass for the, you know, the entire winter season so they can play. So that's what they're doing at Augusta. So they do that every year. I don't think this is any
Starting point is 01:21:01 different. How does it turn green from, I was on my stream last night. Also, for anyone that's fucking up it and I have been going live at like 1 a.m. on our YouTube page. And it's been, I have this crew of like 700 people that don't go to sleep that just fucking watch me play the society events. But I know we were talking last. I was chatting with the people and they were saying that and I, we all came up with the idea, me in the chat, that if they're not going to let us go to Augusta National and do a behind the greens video, they have to at the minimum put up a go-pro and show a time lapse of how that grass gets from dark brown to luscious green in the matter of 30 days now i can't imagine does it just does someone walk onto the grass and just go like and raise
Starting point is 01:21:47 his hands and just like paint it with his fucking night king the night king just paint it with his fingertips unless they just like paint it or like i just or that picture is from the dead of winter and it's just not real like it's just not that brown right now to me it's impossible And I don't know much about grass and I don't know much about agronomy, if that's the word. I'm not an agronomist. I don't think it's possible to have that golf course be what it is right now in that picture to luscious-ass green grass in fucking 35, 40 days. It seems impossible.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Does it not? The balls you have to have to be like the head, ground screw guy and like the head of this operation, be like, no, no, no, we're good right now, knowing that you have to be perfect in a month would just drive me insane to where I'd be one of your seven 100 people not going to bed at night and just watching you play the golf. I wouldn't be able to sleep if it was just dead brown right now and knowing that it would have to be perfect green. Even if it does it every year, it's still and you still have to get it perfect. So that would just, it'd be like making a bad bed or like when you know you
Starting point is 01:22:50 have to do something for others and it has to be done by a certain date. Like it's just on you to make sure that's perfect and that would make me going insane. What if it just doesn't work this year. I know. Yeah. Like, what if something's going on where, like, the, the wind changes a little bit, and it's now, it's brown forever.
Starting point is 01:23:08 And they have to put on the masters in a month and a half. And they, the cameras turn on. And it looks like a desert. Yeah. Like, I don't know. Like, if we just, like, if we just had to do the podcast in an hour and I just had to, like, build my computer. Right.
Starting point is 01:23:25 What if, what if I just don't have the right piece or so? Like, what are we going to do? It just can't, it has to be done. Like the Masters, like Tiger Woods and Bryson DeShambo, and they're just going to show up in Augusta. And what if it's just brown? Like Frankie said, what if it just doesn't work? They just were wrong.
Starting point is 01:23:46 And it's scary to think about it like that. But they do do this every single year. I think the entire state of Arizona right now is basically looks like this as well. They oversee it. It takes like a month. And then everything grows beautifully and it's green and luscious and they're ready to go. So I hope that maybe next show, maybe Thursday show, we'll have an agronomist on to explain further the phenomenon of overseeding so that we can see how Augusta National will play for the Masters tournament.
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Starting point is 01:24:55 without it leaving just devastation behind me. It's like I'll go in like a friend's house and I'll think, I got to go take a poop, like real quick. And I just run in there and I go. And then like it's a little one, maybe you squeeze something out. And everyone's like, whoa, whoa, what's going on in there? What died inside you? I'm like, I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:17 Did you change your diet or something? Dude, I haven't eaten a vegetable in months. I don't know. It's a good start. I thought about that the day. I was like the last time I ate a vegetable, it was doused in soy sauce. and stuff at a habachi restaurant. It was basically just a little fucking broccoli
Starting point is 01:25:33 and carrots and all that. And zucchini just drenched in soy sauce. So, I mean, that's not even, that's not. Doesn't count. I bet I consume a vegetable in less than 5% of my meal. For sure. Yeah. I do too.
Starting point is 01:25:50 When's the last time you had fucking broccoli, man? Like, come on. Like, probably Jake and I had Big Cedar last week on. went to night. We had a long three days traveling out. We treated ourselves to a nice dinner. And I believe I got a filet mignon with mashed potatoes and broccoli.
Starting point is 01:26:08 And that was probably the last time I had a vegetable. Yeah. And to get back to the dude bomb, I mean, you just need to carry those things on you because you got you got to just, you got throw in the bomb first. The first bomb that happens in that bathroom has to be a dude bomb.
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Starting point is 01:27:20 You're going to like them. It's going to change the way that you kind of do your business. Frankie, what was your second temple? What were you comparing it to? you're nuts? Yeah. Oh. Never heard that one before.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Well, no, that's why I questioned it. I thought I said, save your temple. So I was like, maybe that's like the jewels. There's jewels inside temples. I don't know. I don't know if there's jewels inside temples. I bet you there's a couple jewels inside temples. Come on.
Starting point is 01:27:50 Okay. Last couple things. And then we're done here. And then you folks can get ready to watch the Jake Owen match. And please go help out buy a t-shirt, all that good jazz. Barstall Classic is over. The Barstallel Classic qualifiers are over. We did 14 cities, 16 different qualifiers are next.
Starting point is 01:28:08 And the only thing left this year is the Barstool Classic Championship, which we will all be at, I believe. It is Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday of Master's Week, of all things, November 8th, 9th, and 10th. Our girl, Lisa Litvak, who's awesome. Anyone who's played the Barstall Classic loves Lisa because she communicates with them. She gets them anything that they need, answers questions, make sure that they're all set with the information with all that. Lisa is sort of my right-hand woman in terms of running this entire tour. She tweeted out 14 cities, 16 courses, 15,000 miles traveled, 288 holes played,
Starting point is 01:28:45 1728 participants played golf, 1725 rangefinders were lost. That's because everybody does do the rangefinder. Those are just some of the stats from, you know, what we were able to do. I want to give a big shout out to really our entire team. Like I think folks when they arrive can't believe how professional the entire tournament feels, how well it's run. And I mean, we've been doing this for about a year and a half now. But with Barstool, the Barstool difference, we can't figure out technology.
Starting point is 01:29:12 We launched the Barstool Sportsbook app and everybody was nervous that it just wasn't going to work. That thing has gone incredibly smoothly. But throughout history, Barstool has fucked things up. So I think that when you arrive at a Barstool Classic at a golf tournament, you're thinking, okay, they've been doing this for a year or so, a year and a half. This could be an absolute nightmare. It runs incredibly smoothly.
Starting point is 01:29:31 People love it. They're stunned by it. They get nervous on the team because it feels like they're at a tour event. You guys have been to a bunch of them. So big thanks to all of you guys coming and spending time with the golfers, hyping the damn thing up, breaking it down, talking about it. We bring up the classic all the time on the show. Lisa, Trisha, Kelsey, M.B., Nick, Ian, Taylor, Josh, Jake, Brendan,
Starting point is 01:29:52 you guys have been in a bunch of them. We had a bunch of the different talent that's come. Zah's been at several classics. At one time, he was getting chased by a bobcat, I believe across the driving range in Scottsdale, who had Marty and Dana became staples at a bunch of the Barstall classic.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Willie was out in Pittsburgh. Trista Crick, who's a big golfer, who catty abandoned, been at several of him. She's been awesome. Carl, who's hilarious and who was mocking pure Michigan, left and right, because he's obviously a Chicago guy and all the Chicago boys have come to a few of them. So those guys have been great.
Starting point is 01:30:25 But a big thanks to all of our time. and making the Barstall Classic go well, and we will continue to do that. We got bigger and better plans for next year. And then the last update is, Frankie, I saw that you brought the Barstow Golf Society on PGA Tour 2K21 to Aaron Hills the other day. That's right. It went well. That was a fucking tough course.
Starting point is 01:30:43 We played like 8,000 yards. It was a nightmare. The wind was whipping. The scores were high. We did the Fescue Open, tried to do a little thing. I was going to do the hanky-panky invitation. Maybe we'll do that for another one. That would have been a good one.
Starting point is 01:30:54 I thought of that one too late. Um, whoever built that fucking Aaron Hills in this game just got it right, man, like perfectly. They have all the little cottages on the left on the first tee. You can look back and you can see it. They have the catty yard. It's, it's really insane. And that first hole is just perfect. For anyone that doesn't have PGA tour 2K21 yet, you have to play.
Starting point is 01:31:15 I've been playing every night live on our YouTube page. Um, the society events are so much fun. We just had our first major. The major didn't go as that plan. 55 under was the winning score. I mean, what's going on? How? I made it as hard as I could, man.
Starting point is 01:31:31 Like, I made the greens fast, the greens firm. Listen, guys are fucking good. They're fucking good. And also, it was four rounds. So, like, if you're just like, like, tournament. It's not a championship. Wait. Championship, not a tournament.
Starting point is 01:31:45 No, no, no. It's not a cut. 55 fucking under bar. It ain't a championship. We're not going to be able. I'm never going to be able to make it. Unless, like, you make the golf course unplayable, which you're never going to have
Starting point is 01:31:56 because we have so many people. playing this one and actually I think that people enjoyed the playability of knives creek it wasn't like impossible to play first round it was great first round I shot an apartment my first time in a society event second round the wind was a bit criminal and I was cursing at my TV and at you and at my controller but it is like you got to have a mix of both you can't have it too easy you can't have it too hard you got to have a playable because there's too many people playing in it so I mean there's always going to be these low scores I'm never going to have an above par fucking championship it's just not going to happen so that was the blade
Starting point is 01:32:27 cup. I thought it was a good name. Really good trophy with the fucking the butter knives coming out of the top of the cup. It was a real trophy. I want that in real life. We have to make a blade cup in real life. But yeah, PGA 2K21. The game is rolling. We're picking more events. We're picking more. I'm trying to set up right now, actually, the next events because we're going to be gone for the next couple days. When I miss one, I get DMs, like, you wouldn't believe. It's crazy. It's like I get more stuff than when I'm like forget a pizza review up at 6 o'clock. It's crazy. People are like, where is it?
Starting point is 01:32:59 Because you know you're not going to win it. There's guys that are just better than you, but it's just fun to play and get your low score. Like, I've never broken par yet. And you could, like, they could just play the game. You can do a local match, but it's way more fun to do a society event. Even like you're saying, you're not going to win. Guys are shooting 25 under.
Starting point is 01:33:17 They should be pros at this game. But it is fun just to see what your scores are against the thousands of other people who play in the society event. It's fun. There are 80,000 members now in the society event. that's a crazy number for a game that costs $60. I mean, that's millions of dollars worth of video games inside our society. It's crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:33:34 It's not this little free application you got to download. It's a fucking video game. You've got to find a society. You got to join it. Join Barstled off society. We're going to make it on the Switch. I keep saying that. We haven't done that yet.
Starting point is 01:33:45 There's a whole other platform that we just haven't even tapped into. We have 80,000 people. The ultimate tease is the Switch Barstall Society. We've been teasing that for two months. Every time we do this show, I feel like it's coming. I just don't have a switch. I don't own a switch. I got to get Jake to just run the society events on the switch.
Starting point is 01:34:08 All right. Join the society. It's really fun. Join the society. Get involved. And then also please get involved with the Jake Owen Foundation, with supporting our cause. There's a reason that these big names are involved. Darius Rucker, Morgan Wall, and Hardy, Jake Owen.
Starting point is 01:34:23 That's because Jake said, hey, I want to draw as much attention to this match as possible. I want to deliver for you guys if you deliver for me and the way that we can deliver is raise as much money as humanly possible for the Jake Owen Foundation this week. So go to the link that we've got on our bio that we're tweeting out with all of our promos for the match, buy a t-shirt, buy 10 t-shirts, bid on one of the auction items, just donate if you want to be generous. Follow along on Instagram Live and then we will have the video out all over YouTube, barsalsports.com. As quickly as we can turn it around, mostly will be next week. We're going to have drone footage we're going to have tracers we're going to have eight eight personalities
Starting point is 01:35:01 out there battling trying to win a golf match it's going to be fucking awesome nashville troubadour let's go hit it hard it hard hard hard hard

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