Fore Play - Justin Rose & Nate Bargatze

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

Live from Scottsdale, Justin Rose (23:25) — fresh off a win at Pebble — and Nate Bargatze (52:27) — fresh off a new comedy special — join the show. Why didn’t Rose leave for LIV? Did Nate stay in the same house we’re in? We also breakdown our Barstool Mini Golf performances, the Phoenix Open’s rising stature in golf, golfing with Dave Portnoy and his mother, and Arizona hibachi.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot. A lot. His name's Frankie Burrilli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of butter knives because he always knives to cross the green.

Rock 100. Now you've got to break 90. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99. And he grabs 100.

He's like, yeah, I won $90,000 a piece yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you guys? It's ain't a hobby. Foreplay presented by Barstool Sports. We're in sort of a loopy mood, I would say. It's been a long week.

It's only Wednesday. Marathon of a week. We have a stacked show. We got Justin Rose, who just won the Pebble Beach, AT&T. Dan sat down with him. They actually talk real golf. It's relevant. He's the most recent winner on the tour.

What a get, actually, if you think about that. Incredible get. Well done. When was the last time, he had, first time in three or four years he'd won or something? Over four years. Over four years. January 19. We get into it.

We talk about he's got kind of an interesting career path. Number one in the world, leaves Taylor Made. Everything kind of goes to shit. What was he doing, Hanma? Hanma. And then he left them like six months in and basically trashed the company. That was such a, like, that was a bad look for that company. I will say a company, that made me think a company.

that's in that spot it's actually really risky to sign someone like Justin Rose because if it doesn't pan out you look horrible. I mean now it's like they're the butt of jokes right yeah oh yeah oh yeah don't make a horn mo oh yeah so dan sits down with justin rose uh which again incredible get right after he wins bangor after bang that's were rolling hit you with john rom who's been winning nonstop or hit you with just a rose been winning nonstop and then we sit down for an hour and a half when naper got yeah yeah kind of so we have this house here in scottesdale um we're We got all the content people making stuff here. The busts with the boys were doing an interview yesterday down here.

And now we just took the couch and Nate Bargazzi walked into the house. And we just sat with him for an hour and a half and just shot the shit. A true shoot the shit type of conversation. There was no direction. There was no, there was a little bit of an interview in the middle and the beginning. Well, we try because it starts out with Frankie and I because Riggs was finishing up the, the mini golf thing that hopefully a lot of people watched today. But Frankie and I just kind of sat down. And then when we sit down with somebody, we try to interview them.

Usually it goes off the rails. I think we did a pretty good job up top. Yeah. We really like, I mean, we all like Nate Bargazzi. We've seen him multiple times. Yeah. And we saw him most recently shoot. He was doing his stand-up hour leading up to a special.

So we got to see all the stuff that he was working on prior taping his new special, which is out now on Amazon Prime. Go check out, Hello World. He's just a fucking man. He's the definition of a guy that I think I could spend. the rest of my life with in a platonic relationship where I just want to know everything you're doing.

He's got the star quality. Yeah, he does. He's got the delivery and his conversational stuff. I just want to know what he's thinking about everything. You know what I mean? Because there are parts and you can see it.

He's so effortlessly funny and obviously if you watch a stand-up, you know, and he's curated that and that has been jokes he's been working on forever. But even when we just throw topics at him and you'll get a lot, again, you'll get a lot of it in the interview,

but he just starts turning it. And it's so fun to watch him be just incredibly funny and he's so good at it so he's a joy every time we have him on the show so big thanks to nate coming on and justin rose so those are those are the main focus of the show uh we're obviously here phoenix open the whole deal it's been a hell of a week and we're only halfway through with the mini golf turn him mini golf is not golf well no i and i'm i can confidently say that now because uh i played so poorly we missed the cut we miss the cut danny trent and frankie we missed the cut so i would agree

although I'm not good at real golf either but I would say that mini golf is not real golf I would love to come here and chirp you guys but I don't think that's anything to honestly be embarrassed but minigolfs is a gimmicky you bounce it off fucking bricks I mean yeah you're putting and whatnot but at the end of day it's a shit I mean we've seen Dave actually play golf

and he finished second in the whole thing so it's like yeah it is what it is I got butt fucked during a lot of things there that during that round of golf genuinely I was playing with you horrific break shockingly bad breaks like the whole and one automatic hole in one hole where it's like you just got to put it over a bridge. It went up the bridge and then just took a hard left and went out of bounds.

It didn't happen to one other person the entire day. What about the ball hitting the bottom of the cup? That was the worst price you got. And popped out. Or what about the one on the top of the mushroom hole where it sat on the edge of the mushroom? It didn't come back down or go down towards the hole. Couldn't do that. If you did that a hundred times you could do it again.

Is the width of one dimple of the golf ball. It just sat. You couldn't even set the ball there. No, it was very difficult. It's like an inverted mushroom. Inverted mushroom. Oh, no. I'm sorry.

not a mushroom volcano. Volcano. Okay, I was going to say it's an upside down mushroom. Two similar things. All in all, Riggs played well. He was in the hunt. Awesome job by all business Pete and Hank and the whole entire production crew because we were there the day before and Brendan was behind the scenes.

We were there a day before and it was a madhouse shit show. They didn't know how they were going to be able to put on a legitimate golf tournament. That's fast-paced mini-golf. You're getting from the T to the hole within a second. Yeah. So it's like all these guys. moving and you want to move to the next hole they did a great job interviews um i thought it was one of the better productions that we've ever done i'm not even kidding i'm excited to watch it i haven't watched

it was amazing like the leaderboard was changing and like you saw when guys had big puts it was really really well done so i wish i would have made into the championship but riggs did make it to the final round it was fun you know there was so kurt came out in the final round and was he was stumbling a little bit he made a bunch of bogey he started with what a four stroke lead or he had a he had a three-shot lead on Hannah Cook and he had a five shot lead on me and Dave. Okay. And he made a couple bogeys early. I made a couple birdies.

So I was, I think, I had a boge in there. So I think I got to one under at the turn and he was like three under. And no one else was better than one or two over. So it was kind of a two man race for a while. And then I blew up on 11 and he made like a 50 foot bomb after a bad put for a two. And from there on, it was pretty much a coronation. But it was fun being in the hunt. There's $15,000 free bet on the line that Dave Portnoy put on the line.

So it was fun. Go watch on YouTube. I'm going to watch the thing later tonight. And then I want to say I play golf with Dave Portnoy and his mom. Yeah. Mrs. Portnoy, who we know well from the cousins. We went and stayed with them in Boca Raton, Boka del Boca Vista. Yeah, we just ended up calling it Boka.

Boca. We went and stayed with them for three days or so down in Florida. Yeah, I think it was four years ago. Five years ago. A treat, man. What a. What a time that was. So yeah, we love Linda.

So we got out and you never know what to expect. We tell a lot of Dave Portnoy stories on this show. We talk about coming up through the school of David Portnoy, which is a pretty ruthless school of learning the internet, blog until your fingers are bleeding, doing anything and everything to get the content, to get something out there that's relevant, that's going to get numbers, it's going to get, you know, your name out there, a barstle's name out there and all that. And so you never know really what you're going to get.

Luckily, like haven't done the radio show with Dave for a while, been on some work trips with him. Frankie spent more time with him. than probably anybody. When you get, when you do get Dave in certain situations that aren't like work and public related, there's a good chance you're going to get just normal Dave

who's fucking awesome. And yesterday was, he genuinely was just, I think, trying to get away from everything for three or four hours and spend time with his mom and a couple other folks on a golf course. And it was about as enjoyable at a time as you could have.

With Josh Isner, who we talked about on this show, probably way too much. And the port noise. And Dave, we get to the driver. Dave, he must have topped 11 drives in a row on the driving range. I mean,

topped, like barely made contact with him. He's a funny driving range guy because, like, he's so fast. Like, he grabs the club and immediately is swinging a seven-iron and then he's immediately swinging a driver,

and he only wants, like, four or five swings. And if he hits a couple good ones, he goes, I'm ready. And it's like, he hasn't played golf in a year. And then, yep, and it's exactly,

and then he walked, he was like, topped like 11 in a row. Then he walked behind all the caddies in the bags and took a couple things before he's like, he was over there muttering about his shoulders. He's like, he might not be able to play with my shoulder. Then he went out and I played pretty fucking well.

Yeah. And I kept saying like it's Shinnock all over again. Like he's out there. He had a few, we played 13 or 14 holes. And he had a couple pars. He actually drove it pretty well. A few holes where he was kind of in his pocket. But zero like stress, zero kind of like, oh, where should I draw?

Literally just nobody cared. We're out there slapping around telling stories. Josh is obviously a big vars to a fan. He's got a pirate dog tattoo on his bicep like a crazy person. So he was pumped to be out there with Dave. and it was just incredibly enjoyable. So, yeah, I had a great time yesterday playing golf out at Whisper Rock.

And then I had a 40-minute drive back in the car to drop them off of the hotel with Dave and his mom, which again is a guy that's like, Dave's a pretty fucking intimidating guy with the aura and everything else. And we were just kind of, we were talking about Josh, we were talking about Penn,

we were talking about barstool and the live shows and what the hell they're going to talk about. So very, very fun day. You never know what it's going to be like playing golf with. You know, Dave Porto and his mom. Never, ever. Three or four hours. She is, I've met a lot,

of she's just like a really really nice Jewish grandmother. Yeah, she is. You know what I mean? I've met a bunch of them in my life and she's a good one. We also had a great moment where at the Whisper Rock's private and if you get there before, you know, you can't get there before your member, right? Because they don't want basically the reason for that. Like if you invite guests and they don't want a guest to come up five hours before,

but I get to utilize all these practices, whatever. So you can't really arrive on property before you remember. So we got there like 10 or 15 minutes before Josh. So we just pulled over in this party a lot before and we're just. kind of check and so it was just me and dave's mom for a good i guess 15 minutes just kind of chit-chatting about about dave a lot and she was giving me such a heart about like isn't it crazy that he's just dave portnoy and she was like he was always very soft-spoken and pretty quiet and she's like in a lot you know she's like he's not overly social and he kind of just stuck to himself a lot and had his

core group of friends and he was always pretty funny in a quiet you know kind of way reserved way and she's like now he's just this boisterous like confrontational. He's like the most bombastic man who has ever been on the internet. So it was incredible to hear it from her vantage point. That's got to be bizarre to watch that happen. Like we all, you know, obviously Dave is Dave. We've all kind of gone through in various degrees where you just become like this person of the internet.

And that the port noise is that times 10 billion. So I can't imagine what that's like. And she was, you know, it was really sweet hearing from his mom's vantage point. her look at Dave and Dave's rise and barstool and all that. So it's just a very, very sweet day. I do have to say on the very first tea as a guy that's not notoriously great with the driver in general stand on the tea. And it's like Josh pipes went out in the middle and I step up and I hit like a low

pathetic slice into like the right desert. And Dave just turned around. It was like, we pay this guy for this. Like right to Josh. Yeah. And he's like, he plays every day. How is it that bad? And then I hit from there actually, I say like striped at the next three holes or so.

and he was totally cool what it wasn't because I was like if it's going to be like this all day I'm going to have the worst yeah I'm going to like double every hole he's going to be tweeting the whole time and he the only thing he tweeted was like fun fun day on the course yeah so I was like thank god it's awesome but yeah it was fun it was a very good day out there from bolt to blazer equinox to silverado Chevy EVs are for everyone everywhere a few of Chevrolet's beloved and bestselling have become designed as electric vehicle models powered by Altium for an all electric future trend i don't know if we're a lot to talk about this but i'm going to talk about it anyway uh we saw a couple of these silveradoes and they're beautiful

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I mean, I looked on their Spotify and they have 900 million downloads on one of their songs. Well, Jeff D. Lowe, who is a big EDM guy. He came to, where were we? Were we at the Swarles? Or we, no, we probably saw it at the bar. And he was like cheat codes. They're like a legit. Yeah.

They draw huge crowds. They have a ton of downloads. So, yeah, if you're in the area, come out. Pretty crazy. Yeah, come to Barstleseale. Tonight will be there. right after the dozen live show. I mean, it's

a really, really good time and the fact that everything's here in Scottsdale, you can just tell there's a buzz. Like, you drive by and like ESPN has a whole setup in Old Town and then like Barstle has a huge setup here and of course at the bar. It's cool. I like seeing the pop again, like the juices here right now.

And waste management feels massive. Just massive because it already felt massive, but you have the Super Bowl and you add the designated event. The winner makes $3.6 million this week. Is that what it is? So you were at the course, like, the players are taking this as if it's like an elevated. Yeah, last two days I was at the course.

I went for this morning for a couple hours. Yeah, I was talking to Harris English about this. He was like, I think in a couple years, this will be as big to win as the players championship. Wow. It has the potential. I mean, there's nothing like it in golf. It has a, it has something that no other tournament has. And now with all the top players playing, like it's, it feels big.

What is it that it has? 16 of, like, it just has like five times more fans. like any other. It's basically a festival. You know what I mean? Right. The vast majority of people who are there are not really there to watch the golf, which is a good thing.

Yeah. You kind of gotten the hard part out of the way in terms of like it's already a huge event. And like you're saying, when you add a designated event, then it's just now it could be as big as the players. Right. It's like what's what makes something a major, right? Like that's the history, but then it has to start somewhere. It has starts somewhere.

It has to just feel. Well, it's the strength, right? It's got to be like, it's got to draw the best players. it's got to have the juice. It's got to have something. The fucking juice has got to be there. Well, they put so much money into majors. Like the grandstands are big, like we're saying.

But this is like that. This is like, really, if you draw up the criteria, I'm not saying it's a major championship, but you draw up the criteria. It is now, and it wasn't like this. It felt like Arnold Palmer and the Bay Hill Invitational. It felt like the memorial. Memorial was kind of the one that was below the players for a while.

The biggest tournaments below the players, and Tiger Woods was a big part of that because it was like he always played in the Bay Hill and and won them all the time. Yeah. And it was like, these are kind of a handful of, you know,

designated events before there were designated events. And now I think it's pretty clearly Players championship and then Phoenix Open. Like I really do. Yeah, I think, look, there are definitely like architectural guys who want to win at Riviera, right?

Or, you know, it definitely means something to win in front of Jack. But yeah, I'm excited to see how this tournament develops. Because I think this year, hopefully, you know,

hopefully it's two studs coming down the stretch. Obviously the Super Bowl going to take a lot of eyeballs away, but this tournament has momentum that I would say no other non-major has. Yeah, and if you went to an average sports fan, right, you said, oh, tell me something notable about the Genesis Open or invitational.

No idea. They would have nothing. I mean, tell me something notable about the Memorial Tournament. They would have nothing. If I said, tell me something notable about the players championship, they'd be like 16th hole.

They would know it. I've got four. If you tell them, if you tell them, give me something notable about the Phoenix Open, they'd be like the craziness, the fan, the 16th hole chaos. Throw beers. They would know it.

I've got a crew of four guy friends and four girlfriends who are not golf fans who are coming. And that would never happen for any other golf tournament. No. Right. Yeah. And now you've got Rory and all the guys here. Everyone. Yeah.

Everyone's here that can possibly be here basically. It's a huge week. I'm excited. Cool. It's a huge week. And now we got Justin Rose, which is on the show. Also, we're going to be at the waste management today checking out for the first time our 2K characters. That's a fun little thing.

you'll see on tonight you'll see on twitter today as you're listening to this go check our socials i'm sure at some point we'll have some we're putting it all out in real time right or is it going to be like an edited thing like us finding out our our two kids oh that's just going to be out right awesome so excited yeah this is crazy very cool it's a big big week big weekend were there a lot of fans there today like through the practice round oh yeah oh yeah oh it was the pro am right today was the pro and the guys were saying that it feels like a Saturday at another tournament Jesus. Go get the merch. It's flying. Oh yeah. We had a monster day to day on Monday. And I don't know if this is still true,

but on Monday we were the number one selling brand in the entire merchandise tent. That includes the Nikes, the Adidas, the Lulu Lemon, all those. Peter Milar. I'm sure like we're right up there as the week goes on because we keep getting messages saying you wouldn't believe the numbers. Shout out to people, shout out to everybody that's buying it. That's awesome. This is what we need. This is what we're hoping for. And the pro am, so I walked a couple holes with Roy McElroy's groups there with a playing in the proam. And the amateur, he was playing with Larry Fitzgerow. And the amateur in his group was wearing a barstool waste management shirt.

It was awesome. That's great. Rory definitely was like, we're going to have to, can we check like all the photo websites? Yeah, Getty. Yeah, Getty to see if there's like a video, a picture of fucking. Rory Macaroid just like finishing a swing and a guy just standing there in a waste management golf, Barstool golf shirt. We'd love to see that.

We'd love to see that. I went by the new G4 Piedemolar stores that are in Scottsil quarter last night. I will say it was a star studded event. Was it really? Dude. Michael Strahan was in there. Brian Erlocker was in there. A bunch of PGA tour golfers were in there.

Mike Commodore was in there. Oh shit. Obviously, Todd Martin, the Silver Fox was in there. Oh, God, I can't wait to see that guy. Him and his wife, who's an angel, they were in there hanging. And it's, you know, it's a store. So it's like they got, it's pretty narrow walkways on each side. So it's like you almost couldn't run into, you couldn't go anywhere without

running into something being like, holy shit, there's that person. So it was awesome in there. And then I saw Corey Lane, who's the drummer for Chris Lane, his brother. I saw him and he's like, oh, yeah, we're trying to figure out where to dinner. So I ended up doing dinner with Chris and Corey Lane last night. Oh, cool. At Ocean Club. It had a fantastic time.

And we sat down and we ordered drinks. And I hadn't seen him since, I think the Wyndham Championship. We played in the program together with kids. And as soon as we sit down, ordered our drinks. our drinks came and he puts his drink up and he's like, fellas, we got fantastic food. We got fantastic cocktails. We got fantastic company.

He goes, this is not for everybody, but this is for us. And he came it to us. Wow. What? It was. What? It was fantastic. You almost don't want to burn a speech like that.

I guess if you just say that speech all the time, but that's a great word. And then the rest of the night, like the great app or something would come and he'd go, it's not for everyone riggs that's very funny it was fantastic it was incredible it was fantastic we went to hibachi last night in scottesdale what's up oh you found a picture that was quick mackerel bushman holy shit dude i was i was a salt in the first tee i was fired up that's larry fitz rory and a dude just fucking rocking a barstool golf waste management hat yep it's color coordinated that is amazing that's incredible look at larry what a studs i love

stud. God damn. We went to habachi last night and the chef there. Funny guy. What was the name of that place? Kyoto. Kyoto. I don't know what the chef's name was. Do we remember? He, um, he was a, he was right up my alley. He had a bunch of one liner like dad jokes. Yeah. Like at one point threw like an egg at someone and was like, oh, and like they freaked out. And he's like, it was a fake egg. Yokes on you.

Oh, that is. type of shit. And then like he's cutting up the chicken. He goes, we call this a breast reduction. Ha ha. Yeah, love that.

Yeah. That's a good one. And he was like walking around with a little bit of oil and he's like, he's like, he's called this Japanese peepee. And then like lit all our fucking tables, like our plates on fire. I was just like everything he said, you kind of just like what did you just say? Like he would just get you.

He would get you and like, you'd look up and he'd kind of laugh at you. Everything was a bit. Like even when he would talk about the food, we were like, waiting for a punchline. Yeah. He put the rice into like two, like you started with two circles. You know, like those are boobs. It's like the boob joke is coming.

And then he did a big circle. I'm like, that's balls and a penis. And then he like morphed it into just Mickey Mouse. It was very like he was a showman dude. Wow. He was a showman. I know you respect to good show. Yeah.

I know respect to good show. I feel like that's what you're looking for in Hibachi. Yeah, for sure. Oh, 100%. Yeah, he was, he had a good story too. he like worked at like all these other restaurants and he's like this place like lets me be myself it was fucking nuts he was very passionate you got to go there and look for him he had a little um like a a little piercing on his like like under his eye so i don't know his name but a little piercing under his

eye that's the place at kimoto Kyoto so go check about what did i do last night i got ice cream last night there you go what guy um i got chocolate chip cookie dough from was there a special kai Oh, I like Like a brick and mortar Hogandas They make good stuff Outside of just the Like their

Yeah Yeah What's their go to It's like the little ice cream The hard ice cream Bar Sam bar Yeah, yeah

It was like an ice cream It was right across We went to this bar And it was right across The bar Shane Gillis was at the bar Shane Gillis was at the bar Neylius was at the bar

Napa Gatsy's on today's show Yeah Long show right now All right Oh yeah Let's throw it Yeah Probably yeah

Yeah long show All right We got Justin Rose We got Nate Gatsy So enjoy that We'll see at the waste management We'll see it

the, yeah, we'll see you at the Phoenix Open Thursday and Friday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. All right. We're joined by the latest winner on the PGA tour, Justin Rose. You now have 11 wins on the PJ tour and 11 wins on the European tour, which is very satisfying. You really had to earn that one. I had to wait for it. I know that. Yeah, listen, it was obviously a Monday finished. There was a lot going on at Pebble last week. You know, it was that kind of, it's where everything, you know, when you think about playing Pebble, you think should have Play pebble, you know, you know, you know what's, what's capable of it's being like with the weather and things. But we had an awesome time in the end and it turned into that glorious sunshine on Monday morning, tapping in on 18, the waves hitting the wall splashing up. I mean, it was like picture book, how you had dream winning a pebble. So honestly, it was worth the weight. It was unbelievable.

Yeah, it was a wait for four years since your last win on the PGA tour. It's got to feel like a huge weight off your shoulders. You know, you've had an interesting career path because, you know, you've got to number one in the world, you were a major champion, and then you have this gap. And when you look back, everyone seems to point at the equipment switch, you know, when you were number one in the world. But when you look back at these last couple years, how do you explain going from that? I mean, you were ruthlessly consistent for a good two-year period. And then you have this big gap where your form dips a little bit. Yeah, no, I mean, unbelievable question. If I was able to answer that question really well, I probably would have realized why I'd played support and I'd have changed

it quicker. You know, but you're right. There were a lot of things that just a lot of subtle little changes. And yeah, I mean, I would say, you know, you could lean into the equipment side of things for sure. And I would say that's probably a very valid, there's a valid argument there. But, you know, the one thing I would kind of, you know, my rebuttal there would be that I really wanted to use the Axis 1 putter. Like I was dead set that that was going to help me be a better putter. If I could be a better putter, you know, my career might look exponentially different because for 10 years, I'd been a really great ball striker and I'd never really cracked the top 100 in putting. So I felt like if I could just move that parma game forward with all else being equal, like things could be really good for me. And so I kind of made a decision equipment-wise to give me the latitude and leeway to be able to play the Axis 1 putter.

But with that kind of came, you know, the 10-club deal that I had with Honmer and, um, they make really cool product, by the way. And I think I just wish that that had played out a little bit better for them more than anything because it ended up looking bad, I suppose. But I don't know quite what it was because their stuff is pretty good. And I start hitting their driver and I start hitting their driver really well. But then there was a period of time where maybe I went off the boil. And then the problem then was there wasn't enough.

I guess there were too many variables in place. I didn't know where to go. Right. So it's like if you have so much, It's paralysis of choice. There's like all these studies that say that, you know, you're much happier if you go to like a supermarket, right? And there's two choices for toothpaste. You're like, I don't have to choose one of these two.

But if there's 20 choices, then you get what's called paralysis of choice and you don't know which way to go. 100%. So I think that there's some definite validity to that. But do you know what? Being a free agent is not that easy either. And I think paralysis by choice is, you know, even more, you know, prevalent when you don't have a club deal. And that's kind of the situation I've also been in. you know i've kind of played some pretty old equipment recently i was back to the m2 until not long

ago i was back to my old p730 blades until not that long ago until i went in went crazy and i walked into the cobra truck on uh on tuesday and just said hey guys i got a hunch that there's something maybe a little bit more forgiving for me can you build me a combo set and by the way can you put a shaft in that's a little softer and they were like yeah cool let's do that hit them on tuesday afternoon and i was like feel pretty good and they went straight in the bag and you know, the rest is history. So, you know, equipment is a, is a funny thing. Like, it's so it's hard to, like, point at it way back at 2018 and say it was the problem or, you know, point at it now and say it was the solution. Do you know what I mean? There are. There's a ton of variables.

But sometimes you have a hunch as a player about what you need to feel and, um, and how to go about that. And I think last week was one of those weeks that it actually paid off. I know that you, when you were number one in the world and, and for a long time, Sean Foley was your coach, uh, but I was talking to Mark Blackburn the other day who said that, you he's been sort of working with you a little bit. Mark is obviously, you know, hot in the streets right now with, with the work that he's done with Ches Revy and with Max Homa. I mean, Max has blossomed into one of the best players in the world. So yeah, but I know that you and Sean have a really strong relationship that goes a lot beyond golf. So I'd imagine that was kind of a hard decision

for you to make. Yeah, that's been a super hard decision, really. And, but, you know, an easy decision too, because Foles is my brother, really, and he always will be. And so from that point of view, I feel like I haven't lost him as a friend or someone close to me. I'm just kind of doing a different direction with work. You know what I mean? And that's testament to foals, not me. Do you know what I mean? Like sometimes in that scenario, the player can make that same decision I've just made,

but it depends how the coach handles it as to whether you remain tight like that. So, you know, big respect to Sean, like, he's one of the greatest human beings out there. But, you know, when I started working with Sean Foley, there were a couple guys I really looked up to on tour in terms of how they hit the golf ball. And that was Hunter Mayhan and Sean. I was going to say Hunter Mayhan was always everyone wanted to swing it like Hunter Mayhan. He ripped it so hard left. It looked like you could never hit a shot off line.

100%. I mean, he was unbelievable golfer. And so I play with Sean O'Hare in the 2009 US Open at Beth Page. And Sean O'Hare standing there and he's like, he's like, like he's like, like he's holding his lag and he's like ston. Like the Alex Noren move? Yeah. Like, but you know, not so much. left, but just like down onto his left leg holding the lag. And then I'm making my practice

swings like kind of like getting rid of the, getting rid of the angle and trying to sweep it. And I'm like, dude, one of us has got this severely wrong. And then I was in the sixth fairway. And I remember standing in the sixth fairway and I sweeped it nicely, rehinged it. And I just basically, I just pulled it into the left bunker. And I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's me who's got it wrong right now. So that afternoon, I missed the cut at the 2009 US Open. And I went on a tap Sean on the shoulder and I said, hey, I'd, you know, I'd love to have a chat. You know, do you think you might be able to help me? And then he put me on ice.

He was like, yeah, maybe. Yeah, I'll tell you what, give me a call next week and we'll have a discussion to see. Knowing Sean, it was probably more like, you know, homie, I'm just like really booked up right now, dog, I'll get back to you. I know, he totally iced me for a week. And I was like, you know, that was kind of like playing hard to get. It made me like even more keen. I'm like, oh, they do it. This guy is like big time.

Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, listen, Sean and I had an unbelievable run. So my point of the story is, like, Max Homer's kind of that guy now as well. You know, you look at the way Max is swinging, hitting it. You know, he's a pretty aspirational kind of guy. And obviously, everyone's body's are different. You can't swing it like another guy.

But you can look at the work that someone does with that player and you can kind of see the results. And going, you know, talking about Mark Blackburn now, you can kind of see the success that he has with different guys, with different body shapes and totally different swings. And I feel like, you know, there's obviously not, there might be some common themes there, but there's not necessarily, he doesn't pigeonhole anybody into a particular style of swing. And I think that that's obviously pretty impressive.

Sean was one of the early adopters of all of the stuff that's become really standard practice now with the force plates and with the track man and all that stuff. So were you learning about that early on? Was that a process of, you know, that you took that information and helped you become number one? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think I've got that sort of mind where I'm a little bit of a perfectionist,

but I feel like if you can measure it, then you can kind of know where you are. So, you know, but I like to delve into the detail a little bit. I'm pretty good at understanding like the technical side and the detail and the numbers and the specifics, but then being able to boil it down into the feel that you need to have to be able to go and play golf. You know, you can't play with, I'm trying to zero it out, but you can play with, if I keep my left arm down and I turn as hard as I can, that gets me to a zero. You've got to kind of, so matching the science with the art form, I think, is something that I really enjoyed. And, you know, that's definitely the way that Sean and I approached it back in the day.

So the strokes gain figures from the tournament from the 18th year are a little bit misleading because I think they only have it at Pebble. So I was looking at your numbers and I don't know how accurate they are. I remember watching you at the 2019 US Open. I think you finished third and you were hitting it everywhere that week. That was one of the best short game displays with that rough. You remember that week, I'm sure. I remember that week. Yeah, it still hurts a little bit because, yeah,

if I could have just been a tiny bit cleaner that week, I would, like, cruise that tournament, you know, and, but yeah. But it was cleaner this time. That's what I was the long-winded way of asking. What was it like? Because the stats don't really tell the whole picture. Were you really pleased with how you were hitting and your control of the ball? Yeah, I think what I've seen in my game, just the last, I don't know.

Well, let's just say since I started talking with Mark, you know, Blackburn, I would say like beginning to see one or two shots around that come out of the barrel really nice. And you're like, oh, yeah, that felt like golf. That was proper. And then I would say very little, very few shots that are destructive. You know, I might miss a fairway, might miss a green here or there, but nothing that's really hurting me. Nothing that's kind of like bleeding into the next shot and going, oh my goodness. Like, where did that come from?

So I think that that's kind of what I've been able to manage and play with. And then provided you have a decent short game week and you put okay. you know, you're in business. Not to get all parental, but when's the last time that me and you had the talk, Trent? You know that one. You know that three-letter word that ends in X. Where is this going?

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I don't know why that brings me so much satisfaction, but I just love seeing those two 11s. But like what motivates you at this age? I mean, are you trying to get back to world number one? Is that like, or are you more family oriented than you used to be? Like, what's your dynamic right in your golf life? Yeah, no, there's a lot of dynamics that have shifted. You know, I'm living back in England full time and that's a lot of that decisions based

around the family. My kids are 13 and 10, and we wanted them to go to school in the UK. So, yeah, I mean, there's elements at play here, which may be as ideal for golf, but I really feel they are manageable. And this process has been going on maybe a couple of years. And I feel like the dust has settled on that transition back home to the UK. And I really feel like I'm beginning to manage that really well and be super comfortable with it. So, you know, maybe that's a reason why I'm beginning to kind of like come out of a little bit of a funk as well. But yeah, getting back to number one in the world doesn't necessarily like drive my thinking. It's actually a little bit more humble than that in the sense of I

just want to be in the majors consistently routinely. And I want to feel like if I turn up with my game and play like to the level I'm capable of playing, I want to know that I've got a chance to win that tournament, to win that major. Like that's the level I want to operate at. You know, and obviously to find that every single major championship, sure, that's probably not going to happen. to kind of give myself a few good looks at majors in the next two to three to four to five years, whatever the time frame might be where I still got it. That's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for that kind of golden moment or two where I go, you know, that's kind of really capped off my career nicely. But it's interesting. So you're not expecting, and this is probably realistic, just given,

you know, your age and what stage of your life. You're not expecting to reach that sort of level of consistency as you did in sort of 17 through 19? I mean, Yeah, I think I can still play at that really consistent level. I think the consistency side is something you do have for sure. I would say that when you're looking at, yeah, just beating the very best in the world on a given week, that's going to be hard to do for anybody consistently. All I know is that I can do it, but that needs to be my level. You know, that needs, I got, I got bring everything I got, you know, in those scenarios to do that.

And, you know, I think that's fair. Even to think that I have a chance, I think, is, you know, a pretty big goal. You know, guys are good out there now, man, honestly. Like, the standard is, the standard's unreal. I was going to ask you about that because you've been playing for so long and you played against guys like, you know, David Tom's and now you're playing against, you know, guys like Cameron Young. You know, you've seen the whole, the whole gambit. What's the most different about players today versus when you first came on the scene?

I would say like they're flat out now. They're flat out sort of zero, you know, first whole of the tournament, the driver's out. You know, they play pretty much attack mode from the word go. I think that's been the biggest change, to be honest with you. And the guys are like fit and healthy now. Like they really, they work at it. You know, the gym is way more busy than it ever was. The athletic side of the game is obviously, I think the science behind the,

game. People have a bigger understanding now how to get those distance gains, where to, you know, like the gym work that supports it, how to stay healthier, how to kind of absorb all the forces that go with hitting the ball hard. Yeah. So I think that you're seeing sort of five or six or ten players that are now capable of being the John Daly. Do you know what I mean? There's there's more guys in the field. So, you know, if John was on on a particular week, on a particular golf course, he was going to be hard to beat. But there's 10 of those guys now on that particular the golf course. So you definitely know that one of those 10 is going to play great that week. So no matter what, there's going to be somebody really, really hard to be on a given week.

Yeah, there's more guys who have that like top level gear is what you're saying. Yeah, there's more guys with the horsepower, that's for sure. Where does that Sunday in 2012 rider cup rank among your all-time golf days? Ooh, yeah. I mean, that was, honestly, that's probably, that's the most fun I've ever had in terms of the winning feeling. You know, winning as an individual is unbelievable and you take so much self satisfaction in it and you kind of have to huddle with your team and you're like, yeah, we did it, guys, we took on the world and we've been a, we did it. Like, we, we beat them. But when you win as a team, oh my God, like the locker room mentality, like as a team sport, that, that's kind of

what I've never really experienced. And so, like, you know, Rider Cup is elite level, very top of the tree team sport. Like, you know, there's probably, you know, a Super Bowl. obviously this weekend that's probably the biggest sporting event you know that there might be but globally got to say rider cup is up there you know with who follows it and tv audience and to be a part of that kind of cauldron was unreal and you know listen there's no doubt about it we were getting our ass kicked for two and a half days two and three four flipped it on saturday afternoon right saturday afternoon sorry yes i'm thinking yeah so yeah i mean yeah three day competition so the first day and whatever was.

First day in three quarters, we were getting absolutely like wiped. The crowd were brutal. We were getting like, you know, you're walking green to tea and you were just like, I was thinking to myself, honestly, like I've spent 14 weeks away from my family. Because I was pretty happy playing the PJ tour. But back then, you had to play seven events on the European tour to qualify to be a European tour member. So over a two year qualification period, that's 14 events.

You had to play in Europe to be just eligible. for the rider cup. That's when Paul Casey didn't do it, right? And he wasn't eligible for a bit there. Yeah, I think that does, that makes sense. And I'm thinking to myself, dude, I've spent 14 weeks away from my family, like, just to be a part of this event. And all I'm getting is screamed at, abused. And basically being beaten like a drum by the other, you know, by the other team. I'm like, this is not worth it. What is this, this is a, this is a racket. I don't, I don't get it. No, no, no, no. And then Sunday happened. And I'm like, oh, yeah, wow. The Rider Cup is like the greatest experience.

Because the previous to the 2012 one, I'd only ever played 08. And that was another away writer cup where we were beaten convincingly. Right. So this is your first taste of winning. So this is my first taste of winning as a team. And I still, you know, one of my overriding memories of it was all of the champagne was already in the US team room. Oh, well, that's going to fire you guys up.

Yeah, but I don't think we saw it before, but I just remember after we'd won, it was being sheepishly, like, moved across. China's time for nobody to see it. Yeah, it was just like one of those things that you just call and you remember and you're like, oh, my, you know, we've really pulled one out the bag here. You know, it was a pretty special. It was the miracle at Medina. And actually, people often talk about Europe having this amazing dominating run in the Ryder Cup for a period of time. And I think if you look at it from... Maybe, I don't know when it goes from, maybe 04, I think we won a Ryder Cup in the US.

And then we won obviously at home. But really, the 04 was the skewing ones. If you go from 06 all the way till now, every Ryder Cup has been won on home soil, except Medina. And if you just start with Europe winning one at home and ending on Europe winning one at home, and then you add in the Medina one, it looks like. Like we've won like seven. Right. But it's really only like once that they went into enemy territory.

It's kind of. It's one Sunday that skewed the whole look of the Ryder Cup for a while. That's a really interesting point. I'm looking at the roster of this team. And it's like all these guys, you know, Luke Donald, Lee Westwood, Sergei Garcia, Martin Kimerie and Polter, all of these guys have gone to live golf. And I think you were a natural,

people thought that you were going to go because you fit that mold. You're part of that core of European players. You're 42 years old, I believe. Has been. Why'd you stay? You know, honestly, pretty simple really. I mean, you know, I've, the kind of the concept around, you know, Premier Golf League, live, whatever you want to call, have been around for a long time. So obviously I'd heard about it for a while and there's a ton of attractive stuff about it. And if all the top players kind of got together and made the shift, it might have been something that was really, really cool. And I kind of like that idea.

The idea of like the limited schedule and the team aspect. Yeah, and the team element and the franchise model and all the kind of glamour around all of that. But you know, you could never really get straight answer of how real it was in that sense. And if that team element really meant anything to the fans and if the franchises truly had any value or, you know, were their world ranking points and what were the, you know, so there was just a ton of unanswered questions. and at the end of the day, major championships were something that I couldn't pass up on. And until there were world ranking points,

it was just like, for me, it was like a bit of a null and void type of situation where I guess I just couldn't walk away from the dream of winning a major championship because, like you just said, my ranking got to the point where I'm relying upon good play to get into the majors. So, you know,

you take away access to world ranking points and I wouldn't be in them. So that was something that I kind of couldn't shift away from. It's funny what you mentioned about the team aspect because they really do need that to take off in order for this to be a success. And it's just, it's difficult because what's so great about the Ryder Cup is the teams play against each other. You got two guys from one team playing against two guys from the other team, and it's very, very easy. With the Lyft situation, what they had at least last year, and my understanding is moving forward, is going to be the same thing. It's like just kind of going on in the background.

And so it's hard for fans to think of these as like teams that are playing against each other when it's really just another leaderboard. Yeah, for sure. I mean, listen, classic team sport is red versus blue and us versus them and like, let's let's get after it. You know, eyeball to eyeball. But yeah, I hear you. And listen, I think the players who are on live, they talk about the camaraderie amongst the team and they talk about it really strongly. So, you know, they're feeling it. But you're right, the fans have to buy it in for it to kind of to really go and kick off. So no Phoenix for you this week? What was, what was that decision like? Yeah, listen, I mean, I just had to get home, hug and kiss the family. Do you know what I mean? It was always meant I was always meant to be home this week. I was actually, funny enough, Pebble was a bit of a late ad for me on the schedule side of things. I was meant to be home for two weeks and just felt like, you know, Pebble began to be a really good plan for me for a few different reasons.

And, but it has cut my week home really short, you know. I'm turning around and coming back to LA next week. But I did have to get home. Like I said, I got a 13-year-old or 10-year-old and a beautiful wife waiting for me at home. So, you know, I've been on the road four weeks. I'm going to come back to L.A. And then the family are going to come out to see me in Florida in my next week off. So I'm not continually doing the back and forth across the pond. You know what I mean?

So it's not the greatest recipe for success that. Yeah, just one last question here. You know, your win has put you in a really good spot for making the Ryder Cup team. You're winning early in a Ryder Cup year is big. How much of a goal is it for you to? be to be in Rome. Big goal for me. You know, definitely listen,

sucker punch not getting, not getting into the team in, you know, last time around, whistling straights. I mean, they might have done me a favor, really because I,

you know, it looked like a tough rider car. It was a pretty strong US team on home. I was there. It was one way traffic. Yeah, it looked like one way traffic. But,

you know, I think what was tough for me was, I wasn't playing well, but the harder part was obviously to not be picked. You know, your peers know that you're not playing well. and that's kind of was the shot in the arm of like I need to kind of do something about this that doesn't feel good you know kind of hurt the cut you know yeah it hurt a little bit to be

fair and but that's kind of a wonderful motivator and listen I've had plenty of adversity in my career and kind of sometimes feel my most comfortable with my backs against the wall I don't mind coming out swinging a little bit and having to work for it and fight for it and grind for it and yeah get after it so anyway listen yeah perfect start to the sea And nice to be in a conversation now and just try to keep the foot down and play them away strongly onto the team. I lied. I got one more question for you. I am a member of a golf course that I think holds a special place in your heart. Quaker Ridge Golf Club. Yeah. Tell our listeners what happened in Quaker Ridge Golf Club. So yeah, I mean, I actually turned up there, well, yeah, Walker Cup. I mean, I've actually- You were 17 and you looked at the picture. I looked at the picture a couple weeks ago. You look like you were about 12.

Right, exactly. I was baby-faced 17-year-old, that's for sure. 17 years old in 10 days, I remember it weirdly because I was the youngest ever Walker Cup player. And again, I was on the end of another absolute trouncing. So not the, you know, my team record at this point, not looking too good on the American soil, by the way. But yeah, I was a pair of Gary Wollstone home, who was the old vet on the, on the GBNI team, and played a couple of the, you know, I remember Jason Gore was in the team. And, you know, Joel Crybell was, he was the stud. He was unbelievable in college.

He was a great college player. He was the man. And I actually got drawn again. I got paired against Joel in the singles. And I managed to beat him three and two, I think, if memory serves me correctly. And he was not happy to lose him to that 12 year old. I can imagine why. But it probably makes a little bit more sense now with the 11 wins.

Again, 11 wins on the PGA and 11 wins on the DFE World Tour. I like it. Thanks. I had 11 hole in ones until I knocked one in last week. Now I'm at 12. So I've ruined your symmetry there by the time. Well, now you just got to win one. more PJ tour event and one more DP World Tour event.

I like the way thing. You're a glass half full guy. I like it. I can't go in reverse, right? We've got to go forward. Yeah, man. Well, thanks for joining us, Justin, and I'll see you next week in LA. Perfect. Look forward to it. Thanks for having me. Cool. See you. See you soon. Barstool sports book. Yeah, yeah. Daddy. Oh yeah. One of the greatest things that have ever come into our lives. It makes everything just a little

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podcast has a new special Hello World on Amazon Prime. Yeah. A little call back to Tiger Woods with the name of the special, which I love. Yeah. Because this is our peak, 43 comedian. Is that you think? 40s is usually when comedians, it's like 20s. I might have said it before. You either make it at 20 or 40, and no one really makes it in the middle. So either got to go,

you get lucky and get plucked out, or you grind it out. It's probably, how long have you been doing stand-up? 20 years. It's probably better. And I guess, I mean, you can speak to this. Is it better to get,

you know, have your wave now than when you were in your 20s? Oh, yeah. I mean, you're going to cheat. If I could choose, I'm not going to choose this. Not that I've had a bad career, but like your choices, you think, you're like, oh, man, what if I blow up

and you're immediately and your whatever. But you have, you're just in a better spot. You have a lot more experiences. Your stand-up will be better if you wait. Like, not that you choose to wait, but if it just takes the long time, the long route, your stand-up is better. Right, because, yeah,

if you pop right when you're early, the downfall seems faster. When it pops in your 40s, it feels like the longevity is there. Yeah. We have nothing to talk about. So when your 20s, like, you know, you have really no experiences.

Like you can, you know, your first like chunk could be good or something, but you don't have a lot of stuff to kind of go off of. And then you just start not living a real life. Right. So you're, then what you're talking about is like you're just not in, you're doing nothing that's normal.

Right. And so if you, if it takes longer, you're able to, like, go do more stuff and go live a normal life. And you have a family and you have, like, you do all these things. So I think you just can, you can talk about more stuff. I've heard a lot of comedians say that early on they were imitating their favorite comedian. Did you have that same experience where you were just such a fan of this guy that you're probably so petrified when you're on stage that you just kind of go into this gear where it's like, I've watched this guy.

Maybe even subconsciously. You're not even consciously doing it, but you're kind of imitating someone that you were a huge fan of growing up. not yeah yeah when you first do it you it's really that people like brian regan was someone that you'd have to kind of be careful about watching because you would kind of do his thing yep when he tells a joke and then uh david tells the big one for new york was you would catch yourself like you like you like i can't go watch a tell because we'd always go watch him at the he'd do the last spot at the cellar so we'd always go watch him and then you just end up kind of getting that rhythm and then uh then just your friends like it'd be like me soda big jay like

you kind of start sounding like each other. I've got some videos where I can tell my rhythm is like Jay, Big Jay or Kurt Metzker. They were comics that we were around a lot. And so just because you're friends, you just start talking. And then so you kind of end up doing that on stage. So you have to, you have to, it's not a bad thing when you first start because it's like it is what it is. You're still so new to it.

But you got to learn to be able to catch it. And like, so you can like stop and get out of it. so you don't just, you know, because you take, like, my buddy, Yonis Pappas used to say, like you take some essence. Like your, how you tell a joke is even more

than even the joke. Right. That's the part that's like kind of separates you. Otherwise, you can be writing jokes. I mean, anybody could write jokes. It's the way you say it and the way you do it. And that's like your thing

that you kind of find on your own, your tempo, like your whatever it is, your rhythm. and that's and that's what like if someone takes that it's like I mean you're then you're almost taking like the if you can if someone can imitate it it's like you're it's the key you're taking the thing that's like that's the part that's that's funny so then you know like regan can say almost anything yep but like he's earned the right in his thing in his career to get to that point but it's like that's him and so if you take that you now just sound like him and then you're

you're really skipping it's not going to pay off it's not going to pay off the way you wanted to pay off. You're special so good. We saw you live on Long Island, I guess a couple months before you, I guess, filmed that. Yeah, yeah. It was really interesting to see,

like, where you clean some things up and, like, how much more comfortable or, like, because it was, at the time, it's just the best show that we had seen. And then you see it again when it comes out on special, how much better it is. Like, where do you find that, like, is there a specific time that you know on a tour

where you're hitting your stride? Like, is there a certain amount of show? that you need to put on where you're like, all right, now it's time to put this on film? It's like no exact moment, but you just kind of feel it. Honestly, you start getting kind of tired of telling it. But it's not like you're tired. You want to get to the point where you can tell I'm about to get tired of telling it. And then that's about when you're kind of like, all right, like, let's just put it on tape.

And you want to come up with some new stuff and you want to like kind of get out of it. So it's, it's, you can just feel it. I mean, you kind of knew, we knew, because we already had the date book. so I knew I wanted I wanted to tape here funny enough dude I taped here we stayed in this house no you didn't yes with all the shit in the backyard yeah the backyard's insane yeah wow this is it was uh when I got this address and then we figured out it was like oh we're coming I wasn't I didn't say anything but when I walk in like I was like I asked for the trash camera but then I was like well I know where to but we stayed we were here for a week so the special

we taped it in Phoenix at the Celebrity Theater in the round and we were here we stayed in this house all week So when you put the address to come here There's no way that you thought We were actually going to be here That's crazy

It was crazy Yeah it was like my assistant Give me the address And then told me My sister And she was like this is the house we have And so it was crazy Because we pulled down the street

And you just recognized Some of the houses Down there on the corner and like and then we you know it's like yeah i mean i was here actually just put a video out of uh i think it might be on my instagrams or amazon did but we have some behind-the-scenes stuff shot and it's like i'm sitting on the couch upstairs that's unbelievable yeah we stayed here we played pup pup played uh i watched uh what games do we watch a bunch of football games here and uh we would pull we were i was in uh we were we were i'm still trying to work out stuff but we set up a

because your backyard is crazy. Outrated. And then so we set up like a little obstacle course with weights and like did like a little run around and you got your put putt, you got your horseshoe. Is that pickleball court always here? Did we put that up there? I think that's always here. Are you getting into the pickleball thing at all?

I've played it a couple times. I like it a lot. I just haven't played it a lot. Like it seems fun. I met the guy, supposedly the number one guy. Like I guess I didn't really meet him briefly. I walked around the waste management. and he's the number one player.

Like they already have a ranking. They do. It's very serious. Yeah. They call it the fastest growing sport in America. He's very into it. Frankie loves it. I've been playing for a month on me.

Guys got long hair and he's, I've probably seen him on all these instances. What is it? The dink pickleball. There's all these crazy stuff. That thing started popping up on my Instagram. The dink pickleball? And it was so much that you were like,

all right, I didn't even, you know, I didn't even really, I think I went to a pickleball once. I did it once, but I'm not talking about it a lot. And then that dink thing kept showing, and you're like, I thought like, well, if I scroll past it quick enough, maybe Instagram will get the hint that like, dude, I didn't have, like, I'm just saying nothing gets pickleball.

Yeah. But I don't know if I need to see a commercial for it. It's like watching these matches. It does take the hint the other way, Instagram. Because if you, like, you might be sort of interested in something. And if you pause for a little bit longer than you normally do, they're like he's obsessed with this thing. So now we're just going to shove it down his throat.

I think they know where your eyes go. know on the grid of like when the explore page yeah i'll sometimes try and beat it i'll see something i really want to see but i won't stop on it i'll kind of keep scrolling but i'll look in that top right as i'm scrolling up so if they don't know that i stopped on it you know what i'm saying maybe on on mine it's usually like a lovely lady right they'll put up there and i'll try and beat it so that beat the the system i don't think maybe but it's it probably knows where your eyes yeah yeah because it stays it comes yeah that's crazy you know they're always listening like it's a fact

I mean, we say that, I feel like just to say it. But if you go to your phone and say, hey, Siri, what's the weather? It's just tell it like right now. It's doing it. So how would it have known that I said those words unless it was constantly listening? You know what I'm saying? You know it prompts it? But it is always listening.

It needs to know that you said, hey, Siri. Yeah. So it has to always be honest. We just turned on thousands of phones. It's ready all the time. Yeah. That's horrifying. Yeah, now it's a lot.

I never, some of that you would think because you're like, all right, what do I, you know if you're like well i'm not doing anything like i don't care right because there's you know it's like you want your prophecy and you know but then it's but it's when they started doing stuff when they start tracking you with covid and like that was like no one could wrap their head around like why it mattered until like that stuff right it's a conspiracy a little but then you're like oh y'all are like tracking people like you know i want to say like china or something they like track you like you had it if you knew they're like we can track it and they do it like they say to you like nonchalant like no but we can we can just see where you're going and some people are like

that's cool that's great so when we stick you're like yo dude that's weird like they're going to just start cutting stuff off i'm complaining about pickleball and you wish you were only seeing like that's if you knew what that was doing like i mean that's the least of your worries is pickleball pickleball has a it's a funny culture because you you go to these courts and it's it's It's mainly older people. Like I'll be playing very, very competitively and seriously next to a group of 85-year-old women. So would they, is that who invented it, 85-year-old women? They were the dominant age group prior to this new wave of, I guess, people that don't know how to really play tennis but want that, like, feel.

Yeah. That's what I'm seeing in the comments sections of all, like, the tennis hardos being, like, there's no way, this is a real sport. Go play tennis. And then people like me that can't play tennis because it's a little bit too. difficult and I'm not fit enough. I love playing pickleball. So there's that like, well, you can do in your driveway. You could really kind of place it anywhere.

Yeah, that's true. And so I think it travels. You're not running all over the place. You're not, but if you play with the right people, it's a workout. Yeah. It really is. And then we played against Larry Fitzgerald. That's what I was going to say.

I couldn't even go to the bathroom the next day. Yeah, it's like it was a sport invented for 80 year old women or men and women. And then a guy like Larry Fitzgerald picks it up after his career. And he's like, this is going to be the thing that I play three hours a day. And I'm super competitive. And then he plays us. And it's the lateral movement on that man is. We played him two on one.

And not to be a belief. Yeah. It was nuts. So when a guy like that gets involved, it's like, well, I don't even, you just can't believe he can hit every shot. Like, he can reach everywhere. I just played with him in my, uh, the Pebble Beach pro am. Well, we were going to get to that.

That's amazing that you played in that, by the way. Yeah, yeah. I beat him. He's on a losing street. Everybody know that. We beat him in, uh, the LPGA event. Oh, yeah. He may not be a good golfer.

I think he's kind of. be a legit because they said he like duped us i think yeah well because that was the thing is they always acted like he was uh lying about his handicap but i mean he was a six and i was a seven uh but air rogers they did for sure that one was so AT&T pro am you've just played in it the weather obviously was a main factor that went into this um this is your first time ever playing in this in this pro yeah yeah pebble beach spyglass i mean what was what's your first take from you know playing in this thing it's iconic yeah it was i mean it was the best thing i've ever you know it's the dream like you'd always see it on tv and then get into

comedy and then you're kind of just like man i hope i can do this and uh being able to play in it was awesome it was uh i played web simpson we had a great group so i played the webb and then we got here with strillman and uh larry fitzherl and so they're the best and so it's a group of just great people and walk around talking, you're just into ropes. And when you're playing, we got hit that weather real bad. Thursday, we're at NPCC.

I mean, they were, Bo Hossler was the group in front of us. And they had to water the greens because the balls just wouldn't stop. My ball moved a couple times. But I was like, I would be like, should I mark it? And they're like, I mean, just, you know,

like there's a moment you get, you're like, but why am I supposed to play with the rules? And they're like, I mean, kind of. Like, but don't be. annoying and like and then you're also like well i don't want to bend down you you know like it moves it that would be the most annoying part as it's just when it like kind of does that yeah and they have to like bend back down in the market again and you're just like i'm not bending back down i was like it's fine you know it's where it is yeah uh but it was the whole thing was awesome playing pebble

is the the part that that's the most crowd is at pebble and so when you're playing there and you got a pretty big crowd uh kind of everywhere and around it's i mean it's just it's everything that you like want it to be like and it's a real round like really these dudes are playing and uh so it's it was unreal you under you got teed off on 16 and you're the the road the car path is right there

so you're when you're teeing off i mean you put your hat down but you know a person's there like i mean like 12 people are just like you could reach your head out and touch them all because the t-box is is so close. Your sight lines are pretty, it was interesting to see that, because you see it on TV,

and I mean, they are close, but they do a pretty good job. I mean, you have, you can look forward and you're not, you could kind of see how, if someone's walking in the distance, like, and all this kind of stuff, you're like, yeah,

I could see how that doesn't bother. You're looking at something above it or something. But, I mean, is the best thing I've ever. How did you play? I played really good Thursday and Friday. which was nice Friday out of pebble. I mean, I, like, had some horrible shots, but then hit some great shots, made some great putts.

Had a legit birdie on something. But it was, Friday was real bad. Friday was, like. That was that NPCC? I mean, I'm sorry, Saturday, Spyglass. Friday was Pebble. Spyglass was rough because it was, it's just mentally, man. You're just kind of drained.

Like, you get to that point where you start, you're like, what's the line? And you're like, I don't. care. I'll give you a nice plum bob. I'll go through a little bit of a plum bob effort to be like, that's probably right. And I just put to that. You're like, I'm not, I'm not squatting down. I'm not, you know, you just, see how much they mentally have to stay in it. Because I mean, I got there Sunday. I played 18 Monday. Like, I mean, I've been. You're like trying to live the life of a tour pro. Yeah. They're not golf as much as I was out there all day, just playing. And so. Like Andy Bernard in office when he had all the comments.

Oh, yeah. And by the time, and then Saturday comes, you're like, it's a tournament around. We're trying to make the cut. And I mean, you're just like, I don't even care, dude. Like, there are some of the putts. Strillman read a lot of putts for me. And Polly Webb's caddy, like, he's awesome too. And all of them were, they would read putts.

And then they, Fitzgerald's caddy. He has a podcast, a caddy podcast. But his name is Mikey, something. he read a lot of he he's done over 10,000 rounds up there. Whoa. And so this dude knows everything. And so it's a great grouping. And like he was so good at reading putts specifically out there that even Strillman,

after like the first time they said they played, Strillman was like, hey, can we, you, can his caddy read for me? And he can. And so like, he can. And so he read a lot of the putts. because he just knows everything right he knows i mean i was like you should write a book i mean he has the podcast but i was like you should write a book about this like he's a full-time pebble beach resort he works he works at all three and does it all and then he's done all of

with larry so i mean he's got he's won twice out there but i mean he's he was reading strillman like because it was just and strillman made the cut he was on the cut line and that last day they said the amateurs didn't have to go play And I went and played because, I mean, I want to. But I didn't know if Larry would, like, because there's no, the crowd wasn't allowed to walk around out there. We had two and a half holes left because they had to do it Sunday. So it was like, I don't know if there's no reason, but Larry came out there. And part of me, they didn't say, but I figured, like, Strillman might need him out.

You know, it's like, not that he needs him, but it's like, you got to make some big putts. And he did make the cut. But that, that guy was unreal. How'd you fare on seven at Pebble? I hit. Larry went, he shanked it. And then I shanked it too, but I hit a rock, came back in the rough before the sand, and then got up and down. So it was a big up and down.

And so I made par. I got up and down a lot. That was like my game, the good part of my game was I could kind of scramble. Yeah. I hit on five, or there's a seven, then the par five. And that par three right before, there's like a par three, par five, then part three. So number five. Number five, I, was it?

Yeah, no, no, four, I'm sorry, number four, where it's kind of the short. And I hit in the bunker. And then they showed it on TV. Like I hit seven iron, like 150 yards out of the bunker, and then got up and down from the bunker. So they were like, it was a birdie. But what no one saw was I hit the lip and it rolled back.

Oh. And so I saved par. Still very, I was over, I was super excited about that. but everybody else that's you could no one's paying attention to me that much that I could cheat right you could cheat with the round going on that no one sees right you know official score that was like birdie I mean he's asking us that's kind of like he's like well we did luckily web birdied it so we did get a birdie for okay but uh it was it was funny to be like everybody's like nice birdie I was like I don't know about I think he said it on TV and I was like

we're just let it like let it just like let it just bird dude it was a bird you know how much of that you think iron rogers was doing this weekend well he's just got they gave him a 10 handy i mean you know and he got paired with his his guy just made it him to corn fairy and i don't think he played terrible but it was like plus two it's not like he was going crazy if that was like pretty not bad for what they're having to deal with but i mean being a 10 handicapped and i think he's a three and he hits it so far that i mean he was just you're playing it for the whites i mean he's just going to get there were there rumblings amongst you know the amateurs being like this is this is outrageous yeah i i said something to larry about it and then larry was like well they

figured like you know he just got off season so like they're probably given a little more because he's not able to play but i thought larry was saying it because you're like larry was saying it like that's what he got to so like i felt like like there's like yeah Fitzgerald's like kind of what's he going to do trash him like like fish i don't he doesn't mind the treatment I mean, he might have gotten that treatment. So he's like, no, he just had been having, you know, just get done playing. That's not how the handicapped is and works. If you don't play golf, like, it doesn't matter.

That's on you. Yeah, I mean, what do they think I've been doing? The thing I did they just, like, grinding it out, dude? Like, this guy's had a really tough year playing for the Packers this year. We should, we should make sure he gets. But on the road? Right. It's no different.

I'm grinding it out. Rogers doesn't even fall down anymore. Like, he goes, steps back. I go, come on. He's been... Works one day a week. One day a week, exactly. Great point.

Yeah, that is a good point. It's nuts. He has to go out Thursday to Sunday in a bus. Like, welcome to my world. Is that what your schedule was like this year? A lot of times, yeah, because you leave Wednesday night, and then you're being in a different city every night.

So it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday. It's on Sunday. And then you just drive back home. You still love the grind of that? Yeah. I mean, like I said, this is our peak, so this is... Right. 43.

this is as a comics peak. Riggs. Riggs just got back from a mini golf tournament. What's up, buddy? He's here later than us because, yeah, we should have one, right? Or do you have a mic? He made it to the finals. We didn't make the cut.

We just had a mini golf tournament. About 20 minutes from here. Very intense. We had a truck. 16 people and eight people made the cut. We did not make the cut. Riggs did make the cut. I think Kirk Menehan ended up winning.

Did you win? Oh, you did not win. What's your mini golf skills? Like, you play much, mini golf? Not much. I like it. Yeah. But I think it's very fun.

I try to do it on the road if we came, but I don't get to do it much. Trent Daddy, today is Thursday. We're going to the waste management open, the Phoenix Open. What are we going to be doing? That's a huge moment in our lives. So we've been talking about this for a long time, but they are unveiling our 2K characters. PGA Tour, 2K23.

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We're back after adding Riggs' mic. Sorry to interrupt the show. No, that's okay. You're on the show. Sorry to interrupt the show. Thanks for coming, buddy. How are you? Good, man.

I'm devastated. I just melted down in the back nine in a major tournament. It sucks. Yeah. I mean, we're going to talk about the group you guys were in? What do you mean? What happened? I mean, I played horrible.

There was Trent, myself, Danny Rappaport, and Hannah Cook, three of us who play golf the most at Barstall, we missed the cut in a mini-golf tournament. It's just a hard. Blow up hole or something? I mean, I got I got screwed all day and I'm not saying I'm four is a blow up hole. Yeah, pretty much. It was bad.

It was bad. No, you could make some high numbers. I mean, I mean seven. I made two sixes and finished third. Wow. The problem is that there were a couple holes that had automatic hole in one opportunities. And you kind of got obsessed with that.

And then the negative side to going for it was like an eight. You can make an eight. And I did that a couple times where it was like, Like, why did I even go for that? Just get the two. It's almost like in real golf, like, do I go for this? Or do I just play it safe and just take the par? Or am I going to go for Bertie here?

Put Putt's tough to play safe. What are we even doing? Right. You know? It's like, I'm like, I'm like a layup on this. We had 25,000 people watching live just now. Oh, that's crazy. It was a little bit different than just like, you had to play it a little safe.

No, he's right. But there was a cut. There was a cut line. Yeah, but he's like, no, but he's saying like we're here. Like, it's not real golf. It's mini golf. Kirk won 15,000. today.

Well, like basically 30. $30,000. Because, I mean, so Dave put a $15,000 an hour free play for whoever wins. Whatever, it's either 30 or nothing. Yeah. Dude, it could be 100 if he wants to place a plus. You want to do something.

Yeah, if you hit the four. I can't do that math. Did you play today? No, I walked around waste management. First time here? You've been here? Yeah, it's first time.

Get this. He stayed in this house. He shot a special out here. He stayed in this exact house when he stayed out here. Shut up. This year. This year. year. Well, in October.

Or yeah. Did it look better or worse than it looks now? You know, we did go up into it and looked and looked around, you know, about the same amount of dudes. Very dude heavy. Yep. Yep. But, no, I mean, I haven't gone everywhere. Oh, upstairs is a mess. Yeah, I'll get to lay the land.

Yeah. But, yeah, this place was great. I just, um. I'm just sad. As you should be. I was too off the lead on the 11th hole in the second round. And I had all the momentum. I had everything.

I had the honor. And I just lost focus for a second. Hit one out of bounds. Hit another one out of bounds. Made a five. And then I hit Hannah Cook at one point. I was not happy about it. I saw that.

I just started it out of bounds. Like it just bounced over the. Yeah. Yeah, it was bad luck twice. But yeah, I mean, if you hit it. What would you do in a tournament play if it's up against the, rail one potter head putter putter headlight but you're still

kind of screwed because you do that like push yeah I'm always pretty loose with that when I play low yeah yeah it's kind of like a more you know it's like too off the tee you're like just kicking and play with me right that was the tough part about it being on camera where because I'm the same way but when a lot of people are watching they're going to catch you we actually had

one of our guys Danny rap who was just here he thought he made a four on a hole oh yeah and we had a viewer calling watching the broadcast 25,000 people were like he actually He actually made a five. We had to go back through and he actually did make a five. Wow.

So, I mean, we don't, that rule is, you know, it's been controversial in the actual world of golf, but it works out for a mini golf tournament when the instant feedback. Yeah. But that's amazing. That was amazing. He actually made a five. He was arguing for a second. He was all right.

Yeah, I did. He did make a five. What do you think, Arizona? I like it. Arizona's great. Yeah. I've been, yeah, I've been here. Is it too dry?

Do you get dehydrated at all? Yeah, do I look dehydrogen? I feel like you're asking me. No, the only reason is because when I return, I live here, but when I return, when I return, you look a little dehydrate. I got a big water. I got a big water. The more you look at it. You were like, did you play golf today?

I'm like, what's on my face? Just covered face. Come out of nowhere and just start going like, you know what I mean? You're like, I get, I'm trying to gain it a little bit after the special. I don't, you know, I'm just getting after it, dude. And just sometimes when I return to this place, I wake up in the middle of night, and you like can't even breathe because you're my ear. It's like so dry.

I got a little bit of nose today and I just now realized what that was. It was just dry as hell out here. Yes. I felt that actually my special because we're out here because you got here too long. And so the like if I shot another special where I wouldn't come out as long because I was like by the time the special came around I was my voice was, you know, you're just a little like you feel a little bit because it's so dry that you're like, ah. So I do know what you mean by that. Do you hike? Yeah.

We hiked yesterday. Where did you hike? It doesn't matter. You know, I thought that when I hiked, like, what is it? If I said it, would it even matter? And I'd said it, but I guess like, was it like a mountain. There was a mountain. It was like a pill.

There was an elk. No, no, no, no, it was a real one. It was one of his best bits is the mountain going up. Yeah. Oh, that was good. Is this enough? Is this an, but I thought that with hiking because everybody goes, what was it? And I don't think anybody will, I don't think I've ever, I've been able to say it.

And if I said it, they go, that's a good one. They, they, they, there's, it's all just like, okay. They go, okay. Thank you for the information. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? There's one we did in Vail, in, I think Vail, Colorado, but it's steps.

So it's like over 2,000 steps. Is that a climb? Is that a climb or a hike? That's just a walking up steps. Okay. Like literally, and it's like wood, you know, like, like railroad and you just like and people do it seven times a day they go up down and I mean those people had tree trunk legs yeah well that's crazy that that's just what they do they get up and

I mean we got past like I mean the dude ran up came back down and went back up again and I mean we were like it was brutal um you uh you playing a golf honey this week uh not this week I got to leave I got to go to Vegas doing Vegas. So I just came in. I saw you in Vegas. Year and a half a year. Yeah.

It was a great time. It was a fun time, man. Same venue? Same venue. What do you do material-wise? You still... I was turned over some. I got to, I want to go through it.

I'll get a gauge. It's, I mean, I was like, I put, you put all new material because it's like, that is honestly the plan. And then I think I could do it. I might have to do some. A little greatest hits from this just till I can get it completely turned over.

I don't have a closer yet. That's the only problem. Wait, so how much, so you just put out the new hour and then how much new stuff do you have? I mean, I, it's been, I've done 45 minutes to 70 minutes of new stuff. Some stuff I did on the tour,

the last tour, but it's not on the special. I kind of pulled it off the special. And so I'm still like messing with it. But overall, it's like, I could, I'll do 45, that I've, you know, that I feel okay with. When you're working stuff out,

I heard Louis talk about this on a pod recently where he said like he'll go, he'll just show up to a place in New York City and like do 20, 30 minutes and he feels bad sometimes that those people, they see Louis C.K. up there and they're like, this is going to be the greatest thing

I've ever seen in my life, but he's working out completely new, like not good jokes that he knows that aren't that aren't good. Have you ever felt that like fear of being like, oh, I'm not. giving them like the Nate that they like came to see because I'm working things out. Yeah, you get worried about it because you want them to, I mean, you're up there. So you're like, you're supposed to put on a show.

And so you want it to be as good as it can be. And if you have something new, it's like it might not, it just might not be. Right. New York, I mean, at least think they kind of get the idea of that. Like I went to Comedy Magic Club in Hermosa Beach. And I did like four shows there trying to work on some new. stuff but I think the audience kind of liked it because I mean I've really brought out my notebook and like really went through stuff and so there there is a part that people do like to be a

part of that process like see you like fix stuff and right try new stuff and just see what happens and some nights it's it goes it can change I mean some nights I would do it'd be easily I did 70 minutes one night and one night it was like 45 and you're like just that much of a chunk is like just like where did that go you know you just right uh it's it's it's it's you know it's it's it's it's it's it's it's tough to come up with stuff uh but especially now now people are coming out they know you uh they're there for a reason so it's like before you're kind of under the radar people no one that really knows you or anything uh so it's like you can kind of get away with a little bit more and now it's like you know i have people that travel to multiple i met a caddy

last week that has been to like 20 shows wow and so you're just kind of like oh like people are willing to go I'm doing red rocks and so like a lot of people travel that Vegas like some of these big ones people will make a trip out of it and go see you so

do you feel like that almost like you don't get like a true gauge for how your material is doing because they just love you no matter what you say like if it's only for specific Nate Bargazzi fans you can figure out you just got to be super aware of it so it's you know

I'm a real, like, I'm real big about awareness and like I think it's a very important to have awareness. A lot of people don't. But you've got to be aware that I can tell when the laugh is like, you know, when I'm up, when I go out and they're super excited and the laughs are big, it's because they want to have fun. But even though there's other laughs, I got to be to tell the difference between the laughs. Like this one was like, this one's a, it's more. So I know that joke really works versus that was a laugh. But I, I don't want to, I don't want that to be the laugh. The laugh should be bigger.

than that. I mean, that's like with anything, like with, I mean, you guys, all the awareness of, like, the access you have to all the golf, like, you have to be aware that, like, remind yourself constantly, like, this is crazy. I can't believe I'm getting to do this. And remind, because otherwise you can, you start saying for granted and then you just kind of do it and then, you know, you're going to do stuff that everybody wants to go do. And so if you don't appreciate it, it shows. Right. And you get, that's why you guys do so good because you're people, generally I can see that you're excited to do it and that goes a long way

you know you can sense a shit laugh yeah yeah yeah where's like is there a place that's the hardest place to get genuine like laugh a laugh or environment is there a certain environment outdoors

outdoors is tough it's just tough to hear them anything outdoors where like I feel like you you want the crowd to be relaxed but they can't have too much freedom in a weird That's why a theater indoors good Because they're at least having to like pay attention

And if anything gets too Too deep of a room or too Like they're too far away from you You can kind of lose that Like you could see people kind of like They feel like they can talk or they can feel Because they're just almost too far from you So

Phone calls, I'm sorry Yeah Very unprofessional of it So I just talked about awareness I know it's unbelievable Literally Just said it You're like still saying

Two minutes Yeah, he's still on part of it. He appreciated it. He's like that part of what he was saying. Everybody at home's like, oh, these guys don't care. Is that? We're aware you might be dehydrated.

I own this house. So I hope you're enjoying it. That's why I agreed to do this. Just check on them. Let's see what's going on. This thing. Is this stadium then for that reason known as? Yeah, stadium would be.

Way harder? Yeah, it would just be a void, I think. you would get, like I want to do some arenas and I'm excited about that and those are big, there's a big milestone so you want, I think when you go do them if people will come to the arenas it's a giant thing to be in this arena

my career is built completely off people that watch me like that come to these shows I don't have a career without them so like when we do it there's a success that I hope that they feel that it's kind of all of us it's not like it's just me it's like all of them that come to these shows are the reasons I'm here so those moments I think will be big moments and be very awesome and special moments but I don't think you could go it's like well I'm just do arenas for the next 10 years like you're going to there is just not going to be the best experience it's good to go do them and then it's good to go back to like the proper settings that they should be in yeah I heard a I forget who was a comedian said it recently where like if you're doing arenas you're kind of doing that for you because it's kind of like look at this I can do an arena that's pretty sweet but like you're saying,

it's not the most conducive atmosphere for comedy. That's probably smaller theater. You go like, I wanted to be able to do the garden someday. So like, and I think the audience that comes to sees you want you to do the garden. Like they, they want the validation that like they haven't been following some just slub the whole time.

That's like, you know, you're like they every, you do want to do it, but it's like you can take some and I believe audiences will, they are willing to go with you. And then you have to be able to go back to, to be like now we did it they're a part of it too now we can go back and do places that are going to be

you know more fitting and like a better experience so crazy i never thought of the like the journey of a comedian it's very similar to what we deal with and we always ask like why do people care when we go to a tournament and all we do is fist bump tiger woods and it gets three million views and people are congratulating us it's like he does that to a fan all the time when he walks from the T-box to the green. And, but like where you're saying, they watched these guys blogging 10 years ago and like, they feel like they're touching Tiger Woods even though it's through. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I never really thought about that, but it's so true. Like, I mean, we've been watching you forever. We were just watching a clip of when you were talking about your daughter when she was two, taking her to Disneyland. And now we're watching you hopefully one day a Mass Square Garden. It is that same rise of like, holy shit, Nate's there now. That's awesome.

I never, I never put that pairing together of like that journey. Well, it is. I remember when you guys met Tiger, and it is. Because it's like you mean Tiger is, all of us meeting Tiger. Right. And so it's not like, you know, like Michael Phelps because I saw him. I'm just naming someone. It's not something that's like them being Tiger where you're like, it's a regular dude that you somehow figured away to get to that level.

I thought, yeah, once you all met Tiger, I thought this would be over, honestly. Yeah. We kind of thought that too. Should have been over. That would have been a hell of a send-off. Yeah, just because you met Tiger. The next week, there's no podcast, no videos. Yeah.

I go back to, I was a security guard. People would understand. People would understand it. They would get it. And they go, those guys were the real dudes. They met Tiger and then ended. They had a goal. They achieved it, and it was over. Yeah.

You know how much more proud of everything we've done I would be if we did it that way. Right, because it's, you know, everything else is good. We got a lot of phone going off. Everything else is good, but it's not as good as that. Yeah. Never will. Maybe never love you. But you all kept it, but now everybody's like, you got Taylor May, you got, like, it's still like the journey of you guys getting into the golf world where everybody knows you, like is still very fun to watch.

Is Madison Square Garden? Is that it for you? That's the kind of the. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's like, I don't know if it's, it definitely would be crazy. So I'm doing Bridgetown Arena in Nashville and that's a big one. Yeah. But Madison Square Garden, just because it is Madison Square Garden.

And I was in New York. I started New York. And like, so it's, it's just the one and everybody knows. There's not like, how do you,

how do you get to that point? I mean, how do you, do you sit down with your team? One day they'd be like, I think we could, I think we could book my extra card and sell the tickets or what? Some is you do it with,

you kind of, there's like agents and stuff. They have a, there's somewhat a formula how they do it. So you go into a city. Like, last time I did, I did the,

a town, town hall then I did I think y'all came to the town hall but town hall then I did beacon and then so then usually it's radio city after that and then after that would be the garden and so like you kind of go now someone can skip a step someone can do things you can do whatever but that's usually there's this there's a plot and so you just kind of you know it it's comedy you sell out comedy club in New York all right we sold out a whole weekend in New York now we're going to next time I come through we're going to do town hall try to do two shows we did two shows

now we do the beacon we did two nights two shows a beacon like and then you just kind of slowly start doing that and you see what they do where red rocks is I just found it that yesterday but your red rocks is sold out and it's in May and so I mean that's like 9000 people and so like now man then now you're looking at all right we did 9000 red rocks so now like they're whatever what is their arena size like you know and the arenas is like you kind of go do some the big arena you will go do some and I I some arenas setting there because there's not a lot of in-between settings. So I was talking about going to greenies,

but some of them are, and you have the screens and stuff, but it's like that helps a lot to have a screen. Even if you're in a 2000 seat place, it would help to have a screen just so you can see the person's face. But it's that. You kind of build up to do it. And then maybe when you go back,

you can go back and do someone might go like, all right, I'm going to go to the Seinfeld's at the beacon. Like it's like, all right, just go do the beacon, go do five shows or whatever. then you just do it like that you know so you just it's a slow just selling tickets we did phoenix when we did the celebrity theater we did four shows there i don't know what the if there's a venue above that uh there might be i love that place though because it's in the round but maybe it's like you know some of the bigger markets like the big cities you could be like all right maybe

you go do make a arena run to be you know it's kind of like all right i did the arenas and then in a couple years you're just next time you come through you're just like well i'll do maybe I'll do arena this place, but I'm going to go back to this, this place. Shane's doing Mullet Arena, right? Here. This is. Bert. Oh, Bert is.

Bird is. Shane's on the show. What Bert's doing is, uh, I mean, I don't know, but I mean, I think he's probably the number one touring comedian. Like the amount of tickets he's, he's doing four of them. That's like a hockey arena. We're going to that after this. Uh, I believe it's a hockey arena.

I guess. I don't know. The Arizona State hockey arena, but the coyotes play there now. Okay. So he's doing four of those. So hockey arenas are a big, that's your kind of in-between that you do go do a lot of shows in. This one's small, by the way. I think it's only like 3,000 seats.

5,000? It's not that impressive. Not that, mind. I take back everything. I had to let you know that before you really. But he's doing four. So it's 20,000. Right.

Nuts. And so you can easily do the arena here. Hockey arenas is kind of the middle where you end up. of doing a lot of hockey arenas because there are like 5,000 seats and like so sometimes you can't go to a place and like sit there for a week and so but hockey arenas are like usually a good balance where the seats are all pretty good and you have the big screens yeah instead of being like arena where you're like at the very tip top whatever but what bert's doing and the amount of tickets he's selling is uh it's it's unreal dude like

i mean i he's and like he built it and all that you know what it comes from it's the same reason people listen to you guys because people but like bert loves his fans that come out his fans are him like that's and that's what it's that's what sells the tickets if you feel the person doesn't like their audience i people can tell and people are just like i don't i don't like i like this guy yeah but bert's not that and that's what bird is doing is bird is selling the amount of tickets he's selling is unreal you see he follows instagram and he's just on that stage with that stadium picture he's at the He's that TD Garden. Yeah.

And you're saying that all like it's like you got to go do that. Yeah. And those people and they love that. Right. They like and they want to be there. It's a party. It's a fun time. It's the environment is it's an accomplishment that you're all kind of in on it.

And people generally like when you're with Burke, you're like, you that dude's working. That do work to get to that. Right. And he put in all the work that was, you know. And it's it's, I mean, he, it's wildly impressive. You're giving me the chills waiting for you to get to MSG. I'll be knocking on that door waiting to get into that arena to watch you. Yeah, we'll be looking for free tickets for that.

No, no, no. I'll purchase those. No. I'll purchase. I'm going to give everybody tickets to be you, Frank. You'd be like, but I bought my. You're at the top. Do not let that guy.

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I had a couple questions that I went through. A bunch of people have always submitted some hypotheticals relating to golf. And one of them was, how big would the golf hole have to be for you to win a major in radius? How big would what? The golf hole.

Just for you. Proes play the regular hole. Oh, they have to play the regular hole? I mean, you got to look at like it. So you need it to be a circle. Like, what are you supposed to be in 20 feet? You should be landing in 20? I mean, it's a five foot radius hole.

Are you winning the Masters? I don't know. Five feet wide, five feet deep. So it doesn't really bounce out. You got to get a ladder to get in. everything but I don't know because you me you got to do it dude you're chipping in everything you're making you're one putting every single yeah yeah yeah you may even hit a couple from 175 yards you find you have a whole one yeah 100% oh yeah that's that's only five feet we agree on i mean five

feet here here's i'm gonna think the masters five feet i think i think you have the best chance because i think that's that term that you're in play a lot and could get it there. The US Open, I think like with the rough and everything, might take you several shots to get to the point where you finally can make it even on the five, like many, many shots. You got to go out sideways. Chipping outside. You just would always have to go outside. All right. Let's say that's like a one or two stroke difference compared to how you usually play because you're an amateur. You have to deal with all this pro rough. The U.S.

open is insane. You're still gaining that stroke back on the green because you're putting to a five foot hole. You are, but I just think like two, some of the U.S. Open hole, right? There's like 500 yard par four. Fairways, I'm believing there. You had a shit drop. You like slice when it goes 220 way right hits a tree comes down you're burying in the rough You chip out you still don't even necessarily chip into the fairway You're still now 200 something yards out or whatever in the rough kind of yeah another shit shot now you're up there like hitting your fourth And you're like not in a spot where you can just chip it in up there it's like you're gnarly stuff I just think that that's every hole I just think how much you miss when you do a chip

Even put how much you miss it by five because it's only be two and a half feet right on one side yes so it would i mean you rarely are going to be you rarely have one skate right by you know the thing would be you could just hit it really hard right at it yeah but i mean still two and a feet is still i don't even know if i have it go two and a half feet on either it's really speaks to our putting yeah how how well are you reading the green if you can't even get it within two and a i think if i foot hole on a green would be it would look like a crater hit the ground it's a it's a that's a that's a that's a that's a whole what's a normal hole it's like uh Four feet.

It's like... I want to say it's like, is it eight inches? No, it's like three and a half. I'm so bad with that. I think it's... My guess is it's just under four. I was going to say close to four. I think it's like...

Four point two five. I doubled it. Four point two five inches. So we're talking... That's going to be a big hole. A huge hole. I still do. We don't hit the ball nearly.

No, dude, I mean... You're right that the math. Masters is the best chance, but I still think. I win the Masters with a five foot radius. You got to play the tips too. Yeah, I win it. I win the Masters. With five feet.

Yeah. There's a lot of water at the Masters. Oh, yeah. I would almost say 10. Like, you know, it's like 10 would be, you're going to then really make some five, I think would be. 10, 10. 10, you're going to be tighter than you, like, you're going to,

it's like, you're going to have some stuff be like, like, you know, the way, the way a ball goes around a circle, like you just, it's like, it's just could. be two and a feet is you got to be up there and it rolls by and then you're just going to get it's going to be tough augusta greens are insane you try to laser one on like the 13th hole at it on the green you miss it just goes and raised creek you know you're like oh shit you got to go back over yeah you got to play it safe i'm with frank yeah i think a five foot hole i win i think i win i'd be more comfortable with seven if we're doing it 10 is a lot but maybe seven you ever played one of

those courses with a way bigger hole mm-mm i don't i don't know i don't That was great. We had, are there courses with way bigger holes? Not a course. I'm sorry. Sometimes in like charity events and stuff, they'll do one hole where they'll make it a two foot wide hole or something like that.

And one time we were playing a matchup at Granite Links and we had played in the afternoon. We had no idea there was an event that day in the morning. It's a drive-able part four. And my buddy hits it up there to like 20 feet off the tee. Everybody's like, oh, great shot. You know, a good one. The other guys all kind of hit it short and they chip it up there.

and they're like pretty close they got some birdie putts and he's got like a 20 foot of regal and we finally get up over and see the holes like two feet wide and he's like oh let's go and he just buries it and the two feet wide hole

and they're like this is bullshit that's real you're not going to make an eagle putt we were going to make birdie and he's like I'm sorry boys he just made it from 20 feet on the practice screens at this place we play Rockville links

they actually have the really small size of the ball so it helps you practice when you get out there it looks like a five foot hole one it feels gaping yeah yeah if you ever swung one of those you know those fans that you can swing yes they have one of the i've played the course and they had one that like just right by the first tea and i swung it but you don't think about it and then you go swing your club and you're like i

shouldn't have done that at all like it's got i got to give my feel back to he's like you're just yanking you decided to do something prior to the first year that you've never done before yeah and you're messing your brain a perception yeah you've given your brain a new Yeah. Thing that it has to worry about. Yeah, nice. What's, what's this do? Right.

Yank it the first. You're way off. Oh, yeah. Is it possible for you to be good at golf, but be inconsistent? He says, it feels like I hear it occasionally, but I'd argue consistency is so integral to golf that that doesn't even make sense. You can be so consistent in your inconsistency. Whenever you can, like, you just, if you, if you own it and you just know, like, maybe you can wrap your head. head around it. But you know how people like I'll sometimes say like I feel I'm good at golf but I doubt like my

scoring is is inconsistent. I guess his points like if you're consistently inconsistent you're just not good at golf. But you're inconsistent would be for them. I would say that you could argue that they are the most consistent in their inconsistency. That's what they they have a miss. That's like when somebody gets asked what's your miss. It's everything. I don't know what my miss. I don't know. Like I don't know how to tell you like it tends to go right to it's also snap hooks this all happens every round like it's i can't just go like there's room over there so my miss is like it's bad shot my miss is bad shot damn i've got to top it and go grab it in front of the tea right i don't what do you i don't have a miss i'm not you know it's like it just goes where it goes i can see there could be times where

i guess you're like i guess it could go too much free but it's like i don't you're not There's almost, our, my inconsistence is, is just all over the planet. So there's, I don't even know how to play for it. You're like,

an instructor will ask you that. They're giving you like a quick little look. Yeah. Like, so what's your, what's your tendency to, on your miss? You're like,

well, it's like either, it's a top, a slice, a duck hook out of bounds. Yeah. Yeah. And they're like,

so it's just bad. They're like, yeah, what's your ball flag? All of it? Yeah. All of it. Right.

We're not consistent enough to have a, a miss that we know about. We were at the kingdom for Taylor-Migget and club fittings for the new stealth too and all this stuff and showing off the new gear. And they hooked us up to one of the track bands of the full swing monitors. And my fitter was like, he was perplexed as to why I wasn't giving him a consistent, like, reading on like the spin of my ball. He's like, well, that one was 1,200 and your next one was 3,800.

So we're going to, he goes, we got to do something here. And I was just looking at him being like, I don't, they're the same swings to me. He goes, can you get this one closer to 5,000 RPMs? And I said, like, how? And then he gave me a lesson on, like, how to try and do that. So it's so true where it's like there is no constant for us. Yeah, if you knew, because the, I want to get good enough to have a miss. Right.

Because then you could, then you could play for that for sure. Like, you know, here at Phoenix, the 17 with the water right there, where you're like, all right, I want to either go straight or I'm going to really go right. And by no, I'm not going to go left. Like, if you had the confidence of that, But I know that, like, I can line up. I can make a ball go right. Sometimes it means I go straight left because it just goes down to my line. And so then it's going to go right in the water.

So then my other miss is a straight shot that I have to walk away from going. I probably aimed over there, wasn't it? Like, that's what I, you know, just to say that you're aimed right there. Right. Because they say the best golfers, they eliminate half of the golf course because they know what their shot shape is. But with us, the whole golf course is in play. You can just go anywhere. Yeah.

That same fitting, Frankie, it was like I was with the new stealth too. And, you know, they tweak it and give you a new shafts and hand it to me and I hit one. And he's like, oh, the spins way too high. Like, give me that thing. We look at it and I just kind of raised my hand. I was just like, that, I mean, that's me. Like, that's not. Right.

You realize it has nothing to do with the driver. Like, I'm not. They tighten something on the. It's like, let's hit at least two before we start bringing out the wrench. What are you looking at the, we'll do. We'll do. One of the new putters. I attempted one put

and he just grabbed it from him. He goes, ah, let me see that. And then I saw him adjust nine different weights the other way. So it was just the worst put he's ever seen where he knew immediately, nope, we got to change everything. But also your next one, if you'd hit it again with the same specs. It did actually change. But if you'd hit it again with the same without him hit the rest.

It would have been different, right? Right. So it's like, what's he actually changed. That's what I'm like, you should give me 10 swings with everyone that you do. And you can't, like, you can't watch one swing panic. And I'm like, no, no, if I actually put it. good swing on it this might be the perfect setup yeah so it's that part i just don't understand you know what's your biggest pet peeve on the golf course uh all right yeah i can have some good

ones uh i try i got to think i mean you this sounds like slow play or something uh like we'll sometimes say too fast to play can be annoying yeah yeah where it's like i mean i want to play fast but you're like it should be the group should be like you know when you play with you guys that like you're like you kind of know what you're doing you're all just kind of what do you think the average number of times a yardage is said

on a par 3T so somebody goes up there they laser it and they go oh it's 163 probably three times average easy I think it's three to five and then somebody's not paying attention when guys on their phone because there's always that there's always that one guys

it's that you have like a hand on two clubs and you're looking you're like what was that again 163 well even too sometimes like if you have someone that doesn't know any of the lingo and you're like 65 and they're like 65 yards you're like now it's 160 it's 160 it's 165 like that like when they're 65 yeah 65 yards so we're playing a minico of course yeah 92 you're talking that's only 92 yards away you're like No, no, no, no. Sorry. I bet it's, I bet it's four.

Yeah, yeah. Around four. My guess would be four. I like three. Yeah. Because I think it takes, maybe I can see four could be a one's under your breath a little. Yeah. Who catches it, catches it.

Two is the, two is your real announcement. It's never been one. One, one is the, to yourself. Two is the real announcement. Got to catch two. Three's for the one guy, four for the, maybe the last guy that's in the, that's still at the car. I think it gets up to five or six.

You get a guy who's pissing. Yeah. You know, you get a guy that forgets, right? So he's like, his 163 again. And then he's like, dude,

about that, you're right. That Jimmy the other night at dinner was outrageous. And then he goes back to the bag and it's like, well, what was it again?

Yeah, and you're like, fuck. 63. Six. Uh, uh, uh,

I would say writing the score down at the hole. That could be a pet pee. I don't like that. Really? Yeah. It's like, go, to the next to you and do it.

Get out of the way. Because if there's a group behind you, if it is slow, whatever, it's like, because you can see people just get over there and you know it's like

they got a game, they're doing something. And it's like, oh, he got bad, yeah. Also the gambling golf, uh,

it's like how, look, I like to gamble on golf, but I, I'm sorry I didn't grow up on a course and know every single, you know, people are just saying to like wolf like this.

Like you don't know sticky pops 45? Yeah. Like, no, dude, I don't. Like, when did you, what do you do? And I don't think they even know. Right. I think a lot of times they don't know.

But the gambling is kind of like, explain it a little bit more. It's a form of bullying. Yes. When they're just being, they're like, they, I know more than you do about this thing. And now I saw one pop on each side. It's like, what are we talking about? What are we talking about, dude? How many pops you get pop.

Riggs knows the games. I do, but I'm with you. I don't like, I've never liked the complicated games. Right. I'm a big fan of like a Nassaw. front back overall you can press it like and then people are like you don't know NASSaw and you're like dude I don't is it like it's Bahamas right

isn't NASA like that's all I think about and then I'm like I don't know I don't know I don't know what's ever explained yeah I live in Nashville yeah no one ever they just kind of call it NASol and then you go okay I always get confused with best ball too I know it now it says we go we'll play best ball and like I'd like to play my own ball. I don't know what they're like they make it sound like you go play a scramble. I don't want to play a scram.

I want to play my own score. My dad still gets that mixed up to this day. Yeah. Like, oh, so you guys played best ball with, uh, you know, whatever John Ron. I'm like, no, we played a scramble. He's like, yeah, I saw that. Yeah.

Didn't still didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Right there. We mess. Like, it gets tricky with the Barstville classic because we played teams of two. Yeah. But it's, it's technically.

that format when they play in the Ryder Cup when you play two against two but it's whoever makes the best ball of the team they call that four ball and so we call the format for the classic technically four ball but it's a team of two so is it two ball? So it's like I don't know

and I'm like it's four ball and I'm like oh so we bring a team of four I'm like well no it's two of you playing but the format's called four ball so you tell them best ball and then like he said you might get, I don't know, 20% of high, but it's like, oh, basketball. Try and put two ball on the thing next year and be like, see what the responses. Feels like a billiards group. It comes in 10 under.

They just play scramble the whole day. Yeah. So it's, I think that happens in some tournament. For sure. It's like, you're like basketball and someone comes in. You're like, everybody shoots like maybe 60s or something. Someone's like got a 58, 54, and you're like, y'all play basketball? And they're like, yeah.

And you're like, they played a school. Cramble. Like they were scrambling out there. Dude, remember that crazy controversy at that one club that we put it on our Instagram? Yeah. There people were screaming on the patio. A group came in at like a 49 or something like that.

But it was a scramble. It was a scramble. And they were just holding up the trophy being like, we did it. And everyone's like, you easily took ones on it. They got booed. There was a country club. Yeah, they got booed off. Yeah.

There was another video of that with fishing. Oh, yeah. You see the fishing was. The weights in it? They put weights in the fish. They put weights in every single one of those fish. Yeah. They didn't just try and see one of them.

Who did it just stood there and took it and they're like, what do you have to say for yourself? And he was just like. The voices in the back around are layers. They're like, they've been doing this for years. Somebody says call the police. Yeah. They're like, call the cops. I think they won like half a million dollars over those stretch.

Because they had been doing it at all these tournaments apparently. That video is incredible. Yeah, you don't think about like someone being, it's not a bad place to be a crook. Because it's such a weird thing. niche that like no one's even knows what's going on for the money to be that high. Right, it's not doping at the Olympics.

Yeah. It's where it's like that's a grand stage. Like, yeah, like, I watch that video and I was like I don't fully understand what's going on, but it seems like people are upset. You catch a heavier fish, right? That's just the whole thing. Well, yeah, but then they had weights in it, so each fish weighed so much more.

They're also putting like chicken breasts in there and other fish. I think they've done it. They've won before and they just finally got called. Yeah, I think that's it was. It's a wild move. I mean, like,

do they not just eat the fish or something afterwards? Like, I would think they would, how do you not, like where does the fish go? I guess you take them home. For competition fish,

you mean? Yeah. That's a good question. I don't know if you eat them after you put chicken breast in them. No, they could. Grabies?

Waits. Oh, wait. No, but he's saying, wouldn't they have been discovered before because if they eat what?

If they eat the, if they eat the, fish afterwards they would have found the weight people would have weight of weights in their teeth i was just thinking the people that caught them would be the same people that take them home and eat them yeah like they're ones with the weights i seriously yeah yeah so they're at home yeah they're at home like let's get our weights i don't know how you don't have a big fish fry after you you have a big right right like fishing competition i would think that's part of it or that's how you test each other you you eat the other competitors fish and you're like there were weights

in this one so those guys are just like in old times where it's like you would drink the guys you know, wine or something first, make sure it's not poison. That's not a bad idea. That's really not a bad idea. You don't do anything like fishing, right? You don't do any men. No, I'm not a bad. I enjoy it, but I'm not, I was never, we never really big fisher, our hunting people

or stuff like that. I think I want to get into it, though. You ever build anything? Are you handy? No, my wife is. It's got such good bits about that in their special. It's so good. Yeah.

My wife is one that does all that stuff. I can't. I'm not very handy either. Yeah. I wish I... There's sometimes I think I want to work on a car. Like, I'd be like, like, I'd like to know how to do some things. You can just YouTube stuff now. You really can. I thought about going back to school.

Really? Yeah. Is that just because you're going to be bored? No, no, I don't even have time for it. But I just, like, you just want to go learn. Like, I should be learning something. I don't know anything. Like, the book stuff.

I know I do other stuff. I like the book stuff. hear a lot about the book stuff yeah the book stuff those people they're the ones that they use big words yeah but read i mean i i know but i'm doing a new a joke about that i don't think i know to read either there's a way of reading that i don't think i'm good at it it's hard to pay attention to a book yeah you just space out i mean hard hard and i want to read a book you can't do i just i mean i God, what do I just read? Just read.

Just read this book and remember it and just be like, but, you know, you know, it is what it is. I feel that way about it. Did you see that one font that came out a couple months ago that it was like a couple words were bold? Dyslexia. Yeah, I think I could have dyslexia. So that's a big. No, but you were able to, you were able to read it because of the way it was spaced. Yeah.

It was like the per. Remember that? I do remember. I forget what's called. You can read a full paragraph in like 10. It leads your eyes. They bold it in a way where it grabs your eyes and it pulls it. And you can read a page like three times faster than you.

I heard you might be able to buy books like that. So there you go. Oh, yeah, I could do that. Yeah. What's the other one? It's like as long as the first and last letter of a word are in proper order where they're supposed to be and all the other letters are the same that you can read the word. Yes.

Something like that. You can find those things. You can find images of it where it's all jumbled. But if you just start going, you can read all of it. Yeah, you can read them all. Your brain just figures it out. Yeah. Right.

Pretty interesting. Did y'all go to college? No. No. I mean, I went to a community, Nassau Community College. I went to college. I didn't.

Well, we're, oh yeah, was this a setup? No. Do you know where you into college? Ask him. I went to Harvard. I went to Harvard. Oh. Yeah, that's right.

I think we got to deal with this all the time. I think you, what are we dealing with? You graduated? You graduated? Yeah. And you do this? That's usually the surprising part. Yeah.

Yeah. This is great, though. We're talking. Yeah, you know, you. It is. It's like kind of a mess to go to Harvard. Yeah. Yeah.

Were you like proper? No. There, you're a mess there. I was a recruited athlete very different than being. Yeah, yeah. You know, one who gains admittance on their merits of their academics. When you committed to go there, did you know that your life was going to be like this? And I don't mean your profession, but I mean the way people perceive that university?

No. Okay. But when you commit, you know, you're also, whatever, 17 years old. You don't have a really a brain. So you don't really have much of a perception or anything, but you think very much up to that point in your life, this is like I've achieved the most that you could achieve. That's true.

What did you play? Hockey. Hockey. So you think of like this is, this is it. True. Now what I do with it from here is, you know,

and you have this like, oh, if I go to Harvard and I study really hard, I can then like follow this rat race path better than others. And I can have a... Draft cost country found the girl that broke your heart. Was there a second you thought, maybe he played golf there?

I don't think so. Maybe I had a brain around it. Well, I was like, there's a moment of like, if he played golf at Harvard and he's what I've seen, it's like, it's like, just like kind of like, dude, he lost it, like hard. Chuck Knoblo. What happened to him? And then hockey I was not thinking about. Then I was like baseball, football, you know, I was kind of like going through that.

I didn't see hockey coming. Yeah. I think anyone who's watched we golf and then they see me play hockey are very surprised. Yeah, I think it makes sense now, though. Okay. Like it makes, you know. That's good. I could see.

I like to make sense. Like it makes sense that you play hockey. Who's always like, because I was like the, uh, McDadee or David, the hockey, the big. With David. Jesus, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he's unreal. Right.

So that's like the new. Yeah. That's the, he's going to be the next. Yeah. He is. He is. He is. He is.

He's, he's. He's doing things that no one have even come close to since Gretzky, but he probably won't surpass Gretzky's numbers because he plays in such a different league now. Yeah, Ovecgen is going to. For goals, yeah. Which is crazy. Yeah. So you don't attend many hockey games in Nashville?

I've been to some, but not a ton. I mean, Nashville's got a great fan base. We do. And we do it. I think I can get it. I watch watching the World Cup, my brother's really into soccer and, like, watches everything. And then so I'm trying to get into more. I enjoyed watching soccer.

It's very, it's actually pretty soothing to watch. Like, I kind of like not the scoring all the time because it's like every other sport is just, and so it's just kind of like this flow that you're kind of watching. And then it's a very exciting kind of thing. And then, so when I go to hockey,

it's hard for me to really watch it on TV, but like being there is unreal. But I do enjoy, it's the, this you know it's like the back and forth and the fact like i i see the interest in not scoring all the time because it can be a lot yeah you know i watched like the bronze last night like it's you know it's then it's 120 to something and you're like i don't i don't care i agree with that i like when the scoring feels really important yeah soccer is the best for that yes they build up to it when

they score it feels like they never get to accomplish this thing and they did it and people go nuts for it yeah great When you had Harvard, is it, do you have the grades to get in there? Is it kind of like, was it, was the, was the classes so crazy though, where you're like, it depends what you took. It's like we kind of, because of being on the hockey team, come in as a freshman, obviously you got to see your juniors that have been through it all through the ringer and they tell you like, hey, if you want a cakewalk and just focus on hockey and take easy classes, these are the classes.

So you can find that once you're in for sure. Yeah. But others that are like economics majors and such. You got to take these high level econ stats classes. And the people you're being matched or paired up against or judged against when they grade are valedictorians of their schools. And then there's us, the hockey guys. It's like trying to scrape your way through it. So I was a sociology major.

We like wrote papers about sociology. I mean, you know, you could do it relatively easily once you got in. I like that there's classes even at Harvard that are like these are the easy. And it's very professor in like TA base. You'd find a professor that's very, you know, empathetic to athletes. And then there's others that are totally, think every athlete is a sham that they don't deserve to be there. And you learn about who those professors are. If you take that class, they're going to hold you to an insanely high standard.

They don't give a shit if you're on the road. Whereas you'd have others that would be incredibly catering to what you had to do. So you try to like navigate your way through with the easier shit. If you want it, other people took it incredibly. Because they look fat, yeah. But then your life would be, I mean, those people were the people that probably could have got in on their own, too, that were super humans. That could be really good, you know, whatever, on the hockey team and took school incredibly

seriously. And then they're going to get their doctorate after. And we were kind of like, holy fuck, we got into Harvard. Let's just try to get through it and play the sport. Yeah. You got to be like one of the more regular people that have been to Harvard. The athletes were pretty, thank you. The athletes were pretty, especially the sport.

where it's like the hockey culture, I feel like in general. Hockey were pretty like humble, normal people that play hockey. Yeah. And like baseball guys were that way. The football guys were very much that way. It felt like a lot of the dudes were just pretty normal dudes. Lax bros are kind of hit or miss. I think lacrosse.

Lacrosse culture is a little bit more kind of. Did you play? Did you play lacrosse? Never played lacrosse. I don't know if that was like like general moves of hockey or. something. It's a similar game. It's definitely a similar.

Yeah, it was similar kind of hand eye and game and like strategy and stuff, I think is actually pretty similar. But if someone just throws you a ball, you're like, I, uh, you like don't know how to catch it. Like, I don't know. You just need something in your hand to like beat it. I don't catch well.

Yeah. Yeah. No. Nope. Yeah. I drop stuff when it's throwing my way. He does drop a lot of stuff. All the time.

He does. True. I also, I miss trash cans from close distance very frequently. You just. can't have the object of the game near your hands. It needs to be that, right. It needs to be, you need a middleman. Bad bowler?

Yeah. Terrible. Yeah. Horrible bowl. Bad ping pong player. Why is this ball so close to me? Pink pong, you should be good. Get it away from it.

You don't like balls near you is what it was right. You don't like balls near you. No, they need to be in the arms. In the object length. Yeah. Yeah. Arm plus object length. Yeah.

And then I'm pretty good. Then you're, yeah. Yeah, I'm really unbelievable. Yeah, not bad. Come on. But you get like a driver, that's too far. Yeah. Driver at my hand.

You know how far out we go. The edge of a putter is nice. They're short. Yeah. Driver too long. Yeah. Baseball, I'm terrible. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Remember me trying to swing a baseball ball? Oh, I remember. We remember. It's tough. We took batting practice out of minor league park and he wasn't that good at it. Shockingly bad. Because you keep saying yourself, like Harvard athlete.

he'll think it through nothing nothing I wanted to be shocking swings and misses it was on a pitching machine was going right down the middle

but good hockey player thank you thank you what other sports you play I played baseball basketball a little football

not much basketball is probably my best that's not bad at baseball I mean, in relative terms of kids were just so much bigger. I never took it serious. I wish I had to take golf more serious when I was younger.

But golf was not as, just wasn't around. Wasn't cool until pretty recently. Yeah, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't a thing that you could go do. And I wish I would have done that. Yeah. More, not that I could have done anything with it,

but at least even now just to be a better player already would be. We were talking Ryan, Whitney who does spit and chicklets podcast today at the mini golf about that and he's like yeah I'm bummed when I went out with my dad as a kid and played golf I just found it so boring. I just didn't

I didn't I wasn't that into it after a few holes I'd suck I'd hit some bad shaft I'd be like let's just go do something that's more interactive where you know or reaction area or whatever you can just run at people or skate of people I'm with you I feel like as a kid if you were just locked it more on golf it's possible

to learn it now well you did a podcast of Padrick Harrington recently and he was was talking about how like that's the struggle of a parent to make golf cool at a very young age for the for the children he was saying like he'll bring like his kids out and make sure that like even if it's only three or four holes like once they like are done you just you're you leave like it's just whenever their attention span doesn't want it anymore you leave so that they leave with like a really good feeling in the back of their head and then he would always pair it with like

given the ice cream in the clubhouse so that they knew it always ended with something that they can remember was like unbelievable ice cream with a cherry on top yeah i thought that was pretty cool because like if you try and make them sit through an 18 hole round of golf on a hot day with like two random people another cart and you know you're apologizing for them a lot of the times be like oh like they're just learning sorry it's just like a very cold entry into a pretty brutal sport in that aspect you know that's the game it goes to the gambling as like that like the lingo and the it's a lot just talking. It's a lot.

And you can be made to feel dumb very quickly. Right. I remember my day used to like a pollet, like, because he's just a regular guy. We used to like hop the fence to go play golf at like a public golf course. And he'd be like apologizing to the guys being like, hey,

we're just trying to learn the game out here. And like, that's a weird like, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. And that person doesn't feel happy. You know,

yeah. I was like, oh, you don't have to bring me out here anymore. Like I can learn in the backyard or something. You know what I mean? It's like. So yeah,

we definitely have to change that. I think it is changing. I think it changed. Top golf is huge for that. Top golf is the, top golf will be the biggest thing probably. Just getting balls and you're hitting balls. It's only way you get better.

It's the only way you get better hitting balls. And it doesn't matter how you hit it. Wait, no one's really caring. There's a bar. That kind of stuff. Yeah. You bring someone to Top golf that's never played golf before you.

You can even tell after a couple of games, they start to get it. So you can also blade one into like the, yeah, the little point circles. and it's like, cha-ching, you go plus 30. Like, okay.

Let me see the videos that people like like peer wedding into the netting. Yeah. That's still kind of fun. Yeah. I mean,

it's not recommended, but. And we gotta get you that, you're going on that show tonight, right? Yeah. That'll be fun. Yeah,

I'm excited. It's fun to go to a comedy show like when you're not doing it and just kind of seeing, I don't know how what they do, what's going on. Judging them?

You know, there could be some. I won't, I'm not judging with, or there can be times you definitely judge. Sometimes you can go and be like, you want to see, like, are you doing your, you know, full act?

Are you doing, is there a side show going on that I don't, you know, whatever it is? With Bird, I'm truly not. It's, you know, anybody that like, it's like anything. The longer you're in something, the longer you're just, you just, I respect to being of a stay in it is just so crazy. I talked to, you know, I was saying I do Ryan. more today he's with they got true golf this stuff and they're but like Ryan's been around he's

40 so he's been around a long time like and you see those golfers like Ryan where you're like you know how hard it is to stay on tour at that age and just be out there every week that's what's making the tour is like those guys are the guys that are you know it was with Kevin strillman you're like these guys that are unreal and great but maybe not everybody knows exactly who they are or whatever all the golfers we know who they are but just they've stayed out there They've made a lot of money and they've just and just and they've had to stay up to a high level because you can have people come and go. And then the ones that just stay through it, they're there and they can do it for a long time.

It's, uh, it's impressive because longevity is not easy. It's a hard thing to do to consistently, to do something, consistently be inconsistent. To do anything that long. To do anything for that long. Do it well, yeah. And do it and have enough where people want to keep coming back is not easy. We talked to Pat Perez about that a couple years ago. Yeah, he talks a lot about that.

He's like, I've been doing this thing for 20 years, like making money playing golf. He's like, you know how freaking hard that is? It's insane. John Rom was talking to us about Pat Perez last week. Yeah. And he was like, yeah, that guy, like, he was against Liv and say he's that. And then they made him an offer where he was like, dude, I've been doing this for 20 or 25 years. I get me getting my card year after year after year.

It's really hard. And all of a sudden, I just don't have to do any of that. and I get this offer that's excellent money more than I could make. I'm doing that. Yeah, there's no reason you wouldn't. I don't think anybody, I have no ill will to. And I think anybody that's reasonable doesn't. Yeah, why would you not do?

I mean, that's the dream, you know. It's the awareness thing, like the people that are anti-it-so hard are just trying to fight something just for no reason. Yeah. There's reasons behind why people are mad about it, obviously, to let the people that. better in charge like fight that out like i'm not gonna go well they're trying to get it with the audience pat perrez

because they're trying to have the audience be like but like you're you're using the people that watch your sport as you're like thing you're bait or you're trying to be like you're giving them this bad mouth when you're like you know if it's it's about the money thing you're like well the government our government i think bGA probably like there's a lot of you're all like all these you're trying to make less sympathize sympathize with like a corporation and you're like a billion trillion whatever it is corporation you're trying to make us be like I'm sorry

like feel like that's the part that feels gross you're like don't make me mad at Phil Mickelson like or Pat Perrette like they're just dudes dude like that's not it's not the dude the people are never the problem it's going to be whatever whatever argument they might have right or wrong whatever it is like keep it y'all can do that on your own right we're just trying to go you'll walk around waste management they don't care right that whoever is out is that jons is that jonsonsons was he or he's he's pgia oh yeah but like whoever you just see them like you know then they're splitting them up and they're like we can't play over you like nobody cares the only time they care is when they start getting sued mm-hmm they're starting to get sued yeah they didn't

like that part Patrick Reed was just throwing out subpoenas on Christmas Eve to people yeah wild move yeah yeah just get it out there yeah what he's didn't he sue like CNN for like eight hundred million a billion a billion one billion just I think he did loop CNN into that. Yeah. He said he wanted a billion. He's like, one of the anchors or something, maybe.

I feel like, you'll be funny if you go, if you find out like who is law, you're like, who's your lawyer? You're like, who's your lawyer? And he goes, it's me. And you're like, okay. Yeah.

Okay. Like, it all makes sense then. Like you're like, all right. Now. Yeah. Okay. Because I was like, I don't even know who's talking you into this.

And then you're like, so you're, he goes, I'm doing everything. I'm talking. He's out his printer. He's printing out everything. He goes, I wrote it out. I wrote in how much serving subpoenas

and I want one billion dollars. He's like one billion. Let's do 10 billion. Yeah. He's writing it down. He's excited. And if you're, was it Brando,

right? Yeah, if you're him, there's got to be a little bit like, dude, they can't get this right. Like, you know,

even though it's such a crazy amount, you have to go, right? Like, he's not going to win this, right? Like, I mean,

it's a billion. You're like, I don't like, you're just generate, you're the opposite of leaving generational wealth is you're going to have two,

hundred years of your family's like we're paying what off in the reed family is just dominant dude like they just are sitting at the top and he goes i just put a number out there i put a number out i guess what does it even matter i didn't know it would work why would it work what am i even suing i don't even know billion dollars did it generational debt generation of debt just didn't see coming god just i mean you got to be where you're eight if you're to Shambl family it's like eight years old we start working we work hard we're trying to get out of this Patrick Reed family debt and Reid's family's now back together because they're a billionaires and like they're just and we see their family is like what a great fan like you're just like they are who you want to be

it's the shambles that was great oh man yeah that's good stuff Well, we appreciate you stopping by, man. As always. I always love it. Thanks for the time. Make sure you go check it out. Hello, world. It's amazing.

Congratulations again. Amazon Prime. Go watch it. And are you still, are you doing shows like as of right now? You're still touring? I'm in Vegas this weekend. Altura. Be Funny Tour.

We're going to Europe. Oh. March. And then more dates or we'll be announced. It will be touring all year. Awesome, man. Go, yeah, you can check them out of my website. Awesome. Amazing. Congrats. Thanks, man. All right. Appreciate the time. Thank you.