Fore Play - Justin Thomas Or Bust

Episode Date: August 31, 2023

The U.S. Ryder Cup picks are in and we all agree — Justin Thomas was a no-brainer. We discuss the idiots who disagree, the daunting task the American team has before it, and our growing hype for golf’s best event. We also delve into food delivery services being able to charge whatever they want, Frankie vs grilling twitter, the Walker Cup as a sleeper event, our upcoming Wisconsin golf trip, PGA Tour Superstores, new grips, Shinnecock, the newest Tiger footage, and new Barstool transforming back into old Barstool.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knives to the cross the green. Broads 100.

Now you've got to break 90s. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. we bring you in it. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking

2999. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What?

What are you that different? It's ain't a hobby. Foreplay. Present to my Barstool Sports. We are back as myself and Frank Borelli, the third. We got Trent Ryan

joining us in a little bit. I believe he's doing the longest draft in the history of the world. Is that what's going on right now? I think they're doing the bracket podcast with lights and camera barstool,

but I looked at their feed, and I don't think they've ever gone over two hours. I think we're approaching like three at this point. So I'm not sure what's happening on that. Obviously, anytime Trent is on, there seems to be, you know, everyone wants to talk to the guys. So it's just going to be forever. So we said, we have to just start this thing because I got smash burgers to make tonight. I got that Blackstone grill. That tell you got that Blackstone grill, that Flat Top Grill.

And I'm diving deep into this grilling community. And unfortunately, our guy, Kyle Tim's is deep, deep. One of our producers is deep in the... He's deep in a lot of communities, I feel like. Yeah, Kirkmanahan. But I think he's really, really deep in the grill community, specifically the Blackstone. He heard that I had gotten one for my birthday, and he was kind of like meandering over to me during a break in 90 being like, did you, did you season it? Like, did you season the top of the Blackstone before you went on?

And I said, I tried to, but I got like a little bit, like, you know, I got impatient and I just ended up cooking. Like, you know, we made Philly cheese steaks. and I just cooked on it. He's like, well, you're going to lose that like black, nice, like clean finish on top and it's going to get a little dirty. He's like you're going to want to hit that with like a three time seasoning and let the oil burn off. And I'm like, I understand. I understand. And I'm a little nervous about that community because like I just want to cook the food and make it and like just eat it. They do everything very specifically and like, you know what I'm saying? It's very, everything's very done by the book in that community.

And I want to, I want to, I want to do my saying like their community is going to be upset. if you just wing it. They're mad at me right now that I didn't like perfectly season the top with oil and like let it burn off. I did it a couple times and I got super impatient. I was like, let's just go. Let's just cook this. Philly steaks tasted incredible.

I love chopping it up like I'm a hibati chef. So tonight we're going to try smash burgers. We made the burger patties and we're going to smash them down and we're going to put some white cheddar cheese and provolone on there and some onions. I'm ready to go. I just I can hear Kyle Tim's in the background being like, well, are you using this or using that? I know that I'm making the wrong steps.

Barbecue, the barbecue community is a fucking nightmare. I mean, they kicked plenty of balls off the internet. Yeah, like steak Twitter right there, an absolute problem. I know it's, yeah, so drumming Twitter is a nightmare, golf Twitter, as we know is just a shit show. All these little communities on Twitter that are just like, we're going to go to bat for this thing that we were really passionate about. You're going to hear about it when you try and enter. And right now I'm in the Blackstone grilling community.

Trent was there when Kyle Tims, Trent just joined the show. Trent was there when Kyle Tim's was kind of dipping his toe. kind of like he was starting to feel he was starting to teeter on the side of like disrespect towards me and my grill you know what i mean he was looking down on you the way you were treating your blackstone grill like you sort of felt it out you're like hey i got this new grill casually we were all just having a pretty normal conversation and then kyle chimed in a little bit frank is like oh this guy knows what he's talking about and then he started to cross over into this is one of the twitter guys who is going to come after me when i tweet about my blackstone grill

like i'm a little nervous about putting these clips out of you and having it on the podcast because i know you guys just know every single mention is going to be like, do you have this? And I like that because I want to learn. So I guess I guess there's good with the bad. You just kind of weed out all the negative shit and kind of take in all the, all the good, uh, it's frustrating though. The community,

these communities don't typically approach it like they would like to help you be better. They approach it like you're not worthy of being in their community because you don't already do it X, Y, and Z. Right. Yeah. I also don't like the fact like, you know, like you have to watch 17 hours of YouTube videos just to grill a steak. Like I kind of want to just like learn it on my own.

I think that's part of like the whole process of going in the backyard making yourself a meal. Like sure, I don't have the right seasoning on the fucking grill there. But I think I'm going to get it done. Like I don't need the top to be perfectly black. Like I can have a little char to it. Those communities are always confusing to me because they're never welcoming. It's a bit like whenever soccer tries to take off in America and you got a couple

buddies who are who have weirdly been into it for like a decade. and then you try to get into it and the the whole fan base will not accept you when they should want people to be in their community it's it's that with everything the golf the drumming golf is like grilling the barbecue like as soon as a new person tries to get involved their immediate reaction should be oh join our community so it can become larger and we can all sort of relate with this one thing as opposed to what they actually do where they say you haven't been involved with it long enough so you aren't deserving of a spot which is an insane insane reaction. Yeah, it's a little bit of the reason, Trent, why we struggle to find a sports team because it feels like we're not welcome. Like if you don't, and now in any little niche community, it's that times a million golf is one of the worst about it, where they claim that they would like to grow the game and how great it is for the soul and you walk around with your children and get into it. And yet the second that you do anything where they deem that you're not as big a golf guy or girl or whoever is they are, what's your handicap? What's your

They just destroy it. Right. It's just, it's tough. It's really tough. I would say it's been probably over a year since I've cooked anything for myself. Wow. So you're strictly, and I guess no free ads, but they're huge. So it doesn't really matter.

Uber eats, you're just strictly Uber eats? Or do you go and pick up food? I'll go pick it up. I'll go out to eat. I have my, I looked at my Chipotle. I know free ads. And my Chipotle, I have like 2,000 points on Chipotle, which is like 20 free entrees. You guys hear when I swallow my water?

Is that something? Is that like the ASMR shit? No, I didn't hear it. Did you hear it, Trent? No. Yeah, I just exclusively order. But Uber eats a big one, especially on the road. And we go to these hotels, you just, the bank, I'm, I've gotten really good to

at timing it with my Uber that I'm currently sitting in, arriving at the hotel at the same time as my Uber eats. Dude, you know what I'm great at too? And it's very similar. It's from the airport to my apartment. I, if, if this were a thing that mattered in the, in the zeitgeist of the world, they would make documentaries about me. They would say this guy is unbelievable at, let's say he lands at JFK, he's got 54 minutes

in this Uber multiple times. I'm telling you multiple times. I have been handed the food right as soon as I get the, I pull up, guy pulls up. I don't know, dude, I'm pretty hot. I'm pretty red hot with it right now. You might be rivals. I've had a couple at, at the local spot here in Arizona condo, but I think on the road where it's really unpredictable,

you don't know the traffic scene. I've had twice now where I have checked in in the last month, I have checked in and in that window between when the Uber dropped me off and when the guy hands me the key in is like the elevators around the corner, my Uber Eats has arrived in that window at the hotel. Best one I ever did. There is a stoplight by my apartment. And when you order Uber Eats,

it tells you the make and the model of the car. I was in my Uber and behind me was my Uber driver. I was like, oh, it's a blue, a Toyota car. Carolla, this is the license place. So we pulled up to the apartment at the exact same time. Guy was sitting behind me at a stoplight. It felt like, you know, we've accomplished some great things, whatever. I've done some incredible things, including this Rider Cup merch that we're all wearing.

But sitting at the same stoplight as your Uber Eats driver, when you're in an Uber from the airport, it felt like I won the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a really good feeling. That is a lead. I once had it at the check in. The guy had left it for the lady at the desk. And when I checked in to get my room, she just hands. handed me my food and it felt very, very custom. Everything felt very custom. Like I just kind of made my, I curated my own experience at the hotel. I checked in and I had the food that I wanted to just

hand it to me with my key card. That was a nice one. It's nice when the desk, like the desk clerk, they kind of realize what's happening and they kind of look at you like, that was well done. That was really well done right there. I know what you do. It's a victory that no one's going to celebrate you for, but it's a victory all on its own. I will say, I had I ordered Uber Eats today. It was like a $37 chicken Caesar wrap. So I mean, I think if that's the way you're living your life, you're doubling your food intake when it comes to money.

You're doubling it up. Absolutely. It's not. Look, nobody's claiming it's financially responsible. It's one of the worst. They could spit once you've made the decision to Uber eats your next meal, they could spit pretty much any number at you.

I think in that point. It's not stopping you. You don't realize how it's happening. You're like, click, click, click right now priority. Oh, get it done. Get it done. If you don't think I'm hitting priority every single. time so that that guy doesn't go to someone else's house while he's delivering that thing. You're

insane. So I'm getting that extra 250. I'm getting the delivery fee. I'm getting the tip, which is like 25% because it's already on there. So you're not even changing it. You don't want to hit the button to change it. And then at the end of the day, you get chicken Caesar right with the side of French fries. And you're like, oh, that was a $36 chicken Caesar rep when I'm pretty sure it's like $9 if you just walk in. It's crazy. Yeah. And then you're doing the other, the other angle of it, which is that you know that number's coming. So then you're like, well, I want to get my money's worth because they're going to hit me with his fees there anyway so i'm gonna order a 999 meal why don't i get a 30 dollar meal i'm paying 30 and fucking delivery fees already now i'm not you know i really i don't spend money on crazy

things i don't feel like i have the hobbies that people would have where they would spend a lot of money i do the priority every time that feels like my thing where i'm like i'm gonna treat myself every time i order because it's gonna get here three minutes faster and i just do it every single time it's a no-brainer for me you know what what's in with them doing that 21% or whatever that they do instead of just, you ever notice those numbers? Why they're so random? They're not round numbers.

21 is random. That is ringing a bell. Now, whenever I order Uber E's 21% is on there. I'm in that. That is the part where you're almost done. So I just hammer away at that part. So I haven't studied it closely. But that I feel like they're throwing 21 or like 17 sometimes.

And I'm like anything, it's got to be over 20 because you want the driver. All you care about is the driver just getting the food to you safely and quickly at that point. So you got a hammer a good tip. but I think they throw weird numbers at you. I'm really not on that screen very long. You're right because if you're on that screen for too long, your eyes will start to wander and the total is on that screen somewhere.

I don't know exactly where it is, but it'll show you what your total is going to be if you tip that amount. I'm just bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, because I don't want to see that amount. Just like bring me the food and, you know, we're creating jobs is what we're doing. I've been ordering some weird shit on there too. You don't just have to get food, by the way.

Like, I got a fucking SD card sent to me for my Nintendo Switch to Charlotte when we pulled into the hotel. It was just waiting for me there. You will do that a lot. You utilize that more than most. You'll order, if we're on a trip or something, you won't be feeling well

and you'll order medicine from there. Oh yeah. I used it all the time. The other day I'm playing, the other day I was playing 2K with my buddy Andrew. We're playing PGA Tour 2K 23. When you play online in a match, it's very, very intense.

And he had just gotten it and we're playing online. He's like, you don't have a microphone? Like, how do you not? I'm like, well, I do this stream set up. Like, every time I stream 2K, I'm up in my, office and I have the whole setup. I have a microphone. I have the headset, but I can't speak to him through like the Xbox controller because I don't have like the Xbox controller headset. So I just

Uber eats, Uber eated a headset from like CVS and it came within I priority it. And it just came within like 13 minutes. And I was like yeah, I have a headset. Like it's just it's on its way. It's charging. I told them it was on its way. And I just plugged it in and we were ready to go. And it was like usually it's like a 40. I think it was like a hundred dollars to get the And I just refuse to like stop the game, go to CVS down the block and just come back with the headset. So yeah, I mean, we're definitely lazy. We're fat.

We're fucking pathetic. And we're, you know, whatever. There are some places too because I live in, you know, like a plaza where it's pretty much my building is attached to all sorts of restaurants. And when you get Uber Eats or from those restaurants, it's a it's, it's, I don't want to make, I'm like, just leave it outside. I don't want to make eye contact with the driver because they, like, you. Like you are pathetic.

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Go visit right now. Chevy.com slash electric. Rider Cup picks are in. We got quite a few things to break down too. I want to react to Kevin Kisner made a big announcement on the show that him and Dewey have split. Dewey is full time with Sepsraka. And then he has also announced that, you know, he is fully back with John Tilleri. He's going there once a week.

He goes to Tilly for a full day. And then he goes for a week and grinds. He's doing two days trying to come back. He was the mountain man. He's got a full beard with the salt and pepper. That was stunning. That was a, I'm at the lowest point of my career, look. I mean, I legitimately stood away from the phone.

I'm like, is that kids? But you almost have to do that. When you're in a spot like him, if you don't have a beard, you're not actually going through. Isn't that so weird? Every single guy that's going through it, regardless of what they're going through. He personally is just going through like not being able to hit a golf ball as well as he wants to. So it's not that big of a fucking issue. But at the end of the day, they all, they all just, they grow a weird beard.

You know, if I'm going through something, I'm going to tell you guys right now, I can't even grow a beard. So I'm not going to do that. You will. If you go through something, you'll be able to grow one. The implication. We're going through a pandemic you tried to grow one. Remember that? I did. That's a great call.

Every time you go through something, you try and grow some facial hair. What the fuck's that about? The implication is that like, I am so astray and off the beaten path that I can't be bothered to manage my facial hair. I got so much other stuff going on that this part of my life that I usually have under control. I do not even have control of that. Vinnie Chase, Entourage when he's on the island, full beard, full beard. I mean, it's like the me. It's the meme.

you like, well, you like exit the house and like the sun hits you and you've got the beard and you're like, what happened? Ron Burgundy when he gets fired. He's drinking a huge beard. Yeah. But yeah, Kevin Kitzner. He does. He looks good with the, with a beard.

Yeah, kids, great show. He sat with me for about an hour, kind of went through the whole thing. He really wanted to get into all of it. And, you know, he was very candid about the live stuff about the PIF deal. he basically, I mean, he's, without being as media-centered and as big of a megastar as Rory, he was in the same boat as Rory. He was in all of those meetings. He was one of the guys that talked to Jay Monaghan every day.

He's one of the guys that those guys trust. He's smart. He's articulate. He's been on that, he was on that PAC player advisory council for years and years. So he was in all these meetings. And then bang, he just got hit. He said he found out the same way we found out scrolling through Twitter. I believe about the deal and the fact that the tour just partnered with the guys that they had been told for years and years to basically, you know,

shit on and say that they're not worthy and that they're morally bankrupt and all that. So he's very candid about that. He was very candid about his struggles on the golf course. He was very candid about him and Tillery and the fact that they'd been together for 10 years. Like it was natural that they kind of had to break up. And then getting back together was like him swallowing his pride happened to be like, please take me back. I'm sorry. I was mean to.

and Tiller, and we kind of were there for some of that. So it was a really, really good interview, as it always is with kids. But he is now grinding. He's playing in a couple weeks in Napa will be his first time back since the Traveler's Championship. He did a full month in the mountains where he just was boating and like hanging out in the fucking mountains for the entire month, which I love. That is another big comeback move is to just go high in the mountains for like a month,

grow a beard, you know, return and start grind. And he's been two days. He was in the gym. and then he was getting ready to do his first, I believe, practice session of the day. He does two every single day. So he's grinding, trying to get back. We're excited or rooting for kids, but he did announce. He's like, I don't know if people know this or not, but Dewey is now full-time with Sepp.

He basically had a very mature approach to it. He said that, you know, Dewey asked kids if it was cool if he caddied for him last minute. Sepp won that week. He won the John Deer Classic. Shout out to Trent. And then continued. I think they finished second at the British Open. and they had a conversation.

And Kizbys said, if he offers you that full-time job, I think you have to take it. And Dewey was like, I think I'm going to take it because it's like, as you should. And so he said he's got his buddy caddian for him. I believe in Napa. He's going to have Tillery caddy for him. I guess it's the maybe the CJ Cup or I can't remember exactly which one it is. But he mentioned me, which I, if you think I'm not throwing my hat in the ring and texting kids every day,

that I need, just give me one. one of these tournaments. Get me on the bag. I told him I'm going to take it unbelievably seriously. I'll be walking that course, sign up the sun down Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'll be out there. If he has an afternoon tea time on Thursday, I'll walk with the groups on Thursday morning to see how the course, I will take it very seriously. So I would like to get on the bag. But anyways, our guy, Kiz is back. He's not going to be with Dewey. And we got a nice update from our, from our friend there. I'm not doubting your ability as a caddy, but if I, if we, and I think the world wants Kisner to get back to it.

I think he just needs a caddy that's not podcaster rigged bar stool. He needs a steady caddy too. We can't have him having A, we can't have podcaster on there because we're, you know, I know I'll take it seriously, but also it'd be kind of a joke the whole thing, our whole life is a joke.

And we can't have him having weekend and week out, a different guy out there. I didn't like that. I heard that where he's got, you know, different folks from his, from his life jumping on the back. So he needs a steady caddy, but he'll figure it out. He's, I imagine, a pretty popular bag to have, although kids can be tough at times with people. So, so we'll see.

But anyways, good luck to kids, excited for him to return. He's at the part of the story that everybody loves. You know what I mean? If you, if you're like rooting somebody on, if you're watching a movie, if you're watching the Kevin Kisner movie, this is the part where it's like a rocky montage and then he starts just playing really well. And there's nobody rooting against him. Who would possibly be rooting against Kevin Kisner in the spot that he's in? everybody wants him to do well. So I'm very excited for his future.

I think he's going to come back in a big way. Me too. Me too. He told a very funny story about he's like, when do you think I hit my first green regulation at the Masters? He said the 14th old is when he hit his first green regulation at the Masters. It's like I was just hitting the ball so unbelievably bad. But anyways, rider cup picks.

So the Ryder Cup picks are in for the United States of America team. No big surprise. We kind of went back and forth for the last month or so over who it might be. Justin Thomas has not played since the Wyndham Championship of three playoff events. Folks wondered if that could hurt him. We had Lucas Glover through his hat in the ring

by playing well. Keegan obviously won the Travelers and had a hell of a year. Ended up going pretty much with who we thought they would go with. You know, there's a lot of, there's a very weird, very weird narrative of the Ryder Cup team basically being like a qualifying for the top 12 like people that had the best season award and not that they're building a team which is

really, really bizarre to me of, you know, the, it's almost like they're people that are anti JT making it and anti some of the picks have basically said, you know, it's just a boys club. And they're throwing that around like it's a slur. And what's crazy about that to me is that what we have touted for decades is that the European Rider Cup team thrives on being a boys club. Like they are a team. They've had the same fucking guys. Sergio Garcia, I believe, has and he's not going to be on it this time around because of a bunch of different reasons. but Sergio Garcia has like the best Rider Cup record in history. I think he has the most points like in Rider Cup history. And he's one of those guys that is just the European Rider Cup team has had their crew. They bond incredibly well despite the fact that they're from different countries.

It's been talked about that they wanted it more, that they play for passion of like their country and representing their continent, their countries coming together more than the Americans have. We've touted that forever. And then when the U.S. gets on this point where they're like, and Zach Johnson said it today. Like JT was born for the Ryder Cup. He's got a 16, 5 and one record, whatever it is. And there's no way we could go over there without JT.

He's one of our guys. He's the heart and soul emotionally of our team. People treat that like it's not worthy enough of him being picked on the team. And I just, for whatever reason, I can't comprehend that people have this disconnect between building a fucking winning team and people like deserving to be on that team. And the best way I can describe it is that once you have your top eight guys or so, because the, you know, Kepka and Ricky and Morcao, I would say, are like, you got nine guys. So those three on top of the six that are in the automatic picks, you got nine guys or so that are pretty much locks.

And you talk to those guys and you say to Ricky Fowler, for example, like when you're standing on that tea, you're in enemy territory. You're in fucking Europe. It's 6.30 in the morning. They're doing their fucking Viking clap, 50,000. people and you're standing on that tee, who do you want standing there next to you? And his answer is, I want Justin fucking Thomas. And somebody's going to go, no, we're going to go with Keegan. Like that would be psychotic.

You obviously weigh all those factors. It's important how well people mesh, how well they've played together before, how well they've done in Rider Cups before, and people seem to lose that. So no surprise is really on the picks. I think that 12th spot, if you want to call it that between Burns, Keegan, Cam Young could have gone to any three of them, but it goes to Sam Burns. So I don't think I was really surprised by any of the picks.

People also love to complain. They've seen J.T. played a little bit poorly. And they all of a sudden, they're the biggest Lucas Glover fans in the world. They almost just like that it's a little bit rocky. And they're like, oh, my, they like to think that they're like, oh, I know way more than the people making these picks.

I know that since Lucas Glover is playing out of his mind right now, that he's going to be a better guy for the Rider Cup than Justin Thomas. But for all the reasons that you just stated, it's a team. And Justin Thomas has been such a big part of this team for the last couple times that it's like, you just have, JT was never not going to be on this team. That's just what it comes down to. Zach Johnson was never going to get up there and pick somebody not named Justin Thomas. Now people can bitch about that.

People can have an opinion about that. That's fine. But the bottom line is Justin Thomas was always going to be on this team. And I don't know that. that seems to upset people. Yeah, they want to call it a boys club. What you're saying when you say it's a boys club, you're saying that it's a team.

That's what we want. Right. It's the Ryder Cup. We want them to be a team. And again, I understand those guys who are playing really well. And would we have loved Keegan Bradley to be on that team? Sure.

We love Keegan Bradley. But the picks that Zach Johnson made, I think are totally fine and also totally predictable. Danny Rapp's leading the boys club movement, by the way, we've got to say that every single tweet of his, say, Boy's Club.

Yeah, every single tweet, in the last 24 hours has said the word boys club in it so i mean he's definitely at the helm in a derogatory way no he's saying that it the boys club is alive and well um by picking jt i don't know that he likes the pick from what i'm reading on twitter if he's being sarcastic it would be the first time i've ever seen him take his tweets sarcastically i think he's pretty much cut and dry when it comes to golf reporting um dan is also sorry frankie dan is also morphing into the golf Colin Collard, which he is a massive Colin Coward fan. So I don't know like where he actually stands.

I don't think he even, right. He doesn't know, but I think that he has warped into delivering tweets that he knows will get people going. He pisses people off. He tries people crazy on Twitter. And he is, which is awesome. I was going to say, I want to be, I want to be on board of. I fully support that.

Absolutely. But I don't think he knows he's doing it. He's turned into golf. I guess my biggest takeaway from the whole Justin Thomas thing, and I've been on this JT to the to Rome train for a long time. He deserves it. And anyone that's saying that he doesn't is just flat out lying to themselves. You're just going based off of a recency bias and recent playing. That's not what the qualifications of making a team are. You're acting like Justin, I don't speak to everyone that doesn't think that he deserves to be on the team. You're acting like this guy had a season in which Zach Johnson has to go up and basically make like a presidential speech as to to why he needs to be on this team. All you have to say is this guy finished 14th in the points, which 12 guys basically make, 12 guys make it. So if you're in the top 12, he should be a lot. But he's 14th. Won a major in May of 2022. We're acting like this guy hasn't like performed on a big level in 15 years. The guy just won a major. He won the PGA. He finished in 14th.

Yes, he had a little bit of a slide, but also he's 16, 5, and 2 in recent international play. Like, how could you just toss that out the window? Just because Lucas Glover is sweating out of his dick hole in his asshole and he's winning a bunch of tournaments recently. How can you just say, I mean, Lucas Glover's international play? I mean, if we're going to talk about it was like, it was horrible. Lucas Glovers, two, six and one. And you're talking about a guy that's 16, 5, and 2 in international play in rider cups, in President's Cup.

I saw another guy say it's a media pick. It's not a captain's pick. They see JT with the fist pumps and they see him holding the trophies. You're saying that you see him like winning international tournaments and you see him like high-fiving all of his boys because every single one of his boys is on the team. Come on, guys. Like, I don't know why. I don't know what the narrative and what, like, the reasoning is for why you don't want Justin Thomas on this team.

I really can't see it. It's just to complain. I think Trent's right. I think it's just to fucking be like, no, this is not how golf's supposed to be. You earn your way in. It's supposed to be the lowest score wins and these guys had lower scores. It's like, no, that's not how building a team fucking works. Yeah, you win the windum.

And you win the FedEx if you have the lowest score. Not a fucking team. You're getting picked. You have a captain. You have a coach. You have a fucking coach. And he's literally saying, I want you out there. How many times have you guys played a team sport where you felt like you were playing better than the guy who's starting in front of you?

But the coach just saw something in the other guy. That might be me because I was riding the bench in senior year to start the year. And I'm like, I know I'm fucking better than that second basement. I get it. I know I'm better in that second basement. And I had to show it to him because I didn't have the right stats. I didn't have, you know, I wasn't fucking like hitting 450 in fucking high school baseball. But I knew that if I was out there,

I was part of the boys. I had all my friends out there. I'd work my fucking dick off. And that's what JT's doing. He's working his fucking dick off at home. He knows that he has it. He's been playing on this team his whole entire life. Come on.

What are we fucking talking about? Shut the fuck up. You know why those people are doing it? They're doing it. So on the off chance or on the chance that Team USA loses, they can then say, well, she, if you had picked Lucas Clever, then this team would have won. It's, if they're planting the seeds for if the USA does not prevail,

they can say, we were right. And then if Team USA wins, you're not going to hear a fucking peep from those people. Oh, so if Team USA loses, the people are going to complain? Good. Go ahead. If they lose, we're all going to be pissed off because they haven't fucking won since forever in Europe. So what has it been since 1993? 93.

Yeah, I mean, it's my whole life. They have not won in Europe. So you have to do something. It's like whatever the system has been, you got to do something. You got to pick guys that win. We have not won. There is no formula. So Zach Johnson had a clean slate to be like, you know what?

I'm not going based off of what you all want me to go based off of. I'm going based off of what I think is going to bring a win because we haven't won since 1993. So if you want to go back to the fucking 90s, sure, I'll go based off that formula, you fucking morons. I think it's a great pick. I think Justin Thomas is going to dominate out there. I think Justin Thomas is the biggest lock of a pick, the more and more we talk about and think about it, that you could possibly have. Like, you have to be brain dead to consider not taking them.

And just even look at the president's cups. Like, well, he makes that put with Tiger fucking Woods. Australia and they have that huge moment on 18. Every time when he hold out at Liberty National on the President's Cup from that bunker on that 18th hole that was playing as like the 14th or 15 and he's going crazy. When him and just and Jordan Speath get together and just railroad people for years and years in these team events and you're going to then go in and rip from Spee his fucking guy, his boy, the dumb photo of them when they were like 11 years old playing golf together, all of that we need.

Justin Thomas is going to make other players better, and he is in a lot of ways. You compare him to not overall, but this year to like Ian Poulter. Ian Poulter was a pick for the European team, I believe four times he was a captain's pick for the European team. You think he wasn't inside the top 12 every time? Of course, he wasn't inside the top 12s of automatic points.

He was way down there many different times. They pick them in 2012 when Europe came back and won him. A dinah, that famous clip on Saturday afternoon, when they were the last match on the course, and Ian Polter's making put after putt, they instead of going down like whatever it would have been 11 to 5, they go down 10 to 6, they come back and they win a Medina.

And they all, when they recount that miracle of Medina from the European team, they tout Ian fucking Polter as emotionally driving that team. That is what JT does. You are way more likely to get those moments that spark, that fire up the team, and again, the words of the team from Justin Thomas, than you are any other pick.

And like Frankie said, that's already, when we get into those conversations, we're now foregoing just all agreeing that he deserves to be on the team. He earned it. You know how he earned it by in these events over and over and over again, fucking dominating and being fantastic and winning major championships and being one of the best players on the planet. And he will go down, which we said six weeks ago or something, JT will go down when he retires as one of the best United States Rider Cup players in history. I think he'll go down as he absolutely will. He's fiery. He's got all that plus the town. He's got like the bulldog mentality that we talk about.

He's got kind of that tiger-esque like he rallies. He fist pumps. He screams. He pisses people off and he's got generational talent. So he's a no fucking brainer. He has to be on that team. I think it's, I think a lot of that little bitchy complaininess in the golf Twitter world is a symptom of

golf not being a team sport and such an individual sport. and you get these people that grew up playing golf and that's all they care about golf, is they just think individualistic and it's a meritocracy based purely on your individualistic performance, not that you're building a team. I cannot recommend Shane Ryan's book enough. People haven't read it. It's probably the best golf book I've ever read. It came out a couple, like a year and a half ago, a couple years ago.

The cup they couldn't lose, I believe it's called. And he does such a good job of, he goes back in. time, tell stories from, you know, decades ago, the beginnings of the Rider Cup, how the U.S. was dominant and how that transformed that evolved into Europe being dominant, what characteristics made them dominant, how the U.S. somehow as a favorite for years and years and years continued to lose. And then Steve Stricker basically realizing, studying, combining stats with the characteristics that the European team used for decades to win to build the U.S. team that fucking dominated at

Whistling Straits. And it's such a, such a good book and really teaches you like, if you just remove yourself from a two year window or a four year window of the rider cup and you look at the rider cup on a macro level of what has worked and what has not, that it's really not a crazy fucking science and that there's pretty simple methods to it. And one of the key underlying fundamentals for a winning team is that you have to be understanding of what a team means and build a complete team. and it's Herb Brooks where he says, you know, I don't want the best players. I want the right players. And that's kind of what you need in this environment, especially when you're going over there. 1993 as the last time the United States has won in Europe is such a long fucking time for a team that has been the favorite most of the time. And we haven't even really been close.

Like in Paris, it was over like Thursday fucking morning when we played in Paris. It feels like in my adult life since I started like following golf closely, we've never even been fucking. close over in Europe. So we need all the help we can get. And I think JT's an absolute lock of a bit. Yeah. Out of the last eight major winners, the U.S.

has five of them. They're all in the team. Like you just got to go with these guys that know how to win. You got Brian Harmon, Wyndham Clark, Brooks Keppka, Justin fucking Thomas, Scotty Sheffler. Like these are your guys.

Yes, we're sad that Keegan Bradley's not on. Honestly, have the conversation about Sam Burns then. Like, I mean, out of Zach Johnson's, all of his comments, I thought that him just saying, if you saw the relationship,

relationship this guy had with these guys, like, you'd know why I picked them. That's your boys clubs. Like, that's your, that's where you can get mad right there if you want to. And I still think you're insane. I still think that Sam Burns has earned it. I think all of these guys have earned their way in. I just, I hate the JTA because this recency golf bias of like, you have to be playing well to get in as if it's like the NHL playoffs is fucking crazy to me.

You're building a team. They're taking everything, your career. They're taking who you are as a golfer. and they're saying, do we want this guy to make the team? And he said yes. So that's my take on it. I know we all fall in the same thinking there, way of thinking. So congratulations to JT.

I want to say congratulations to him. I want to say congratulations to all the captain's picks. They all deserve it. And I think we're going to go over there to Europe. It's going to be a fucking battle because European guys are playing out of control, as we will talk about. But they're going to be a problem. They're going to be a problem.

So we need to go full balls to the wall to bring home this victory for the first time since it's 1993. They're going to have to. Zach Johnson made zero mistakes. It was perfect. Yeah, the Sam Burns pick I get. I think he's like of those three guys. I've not been high on Cam Young for this just because I still have scar tissue from La Golf National when we had big hitters out there, Bryson and Phil and like they just couldn't hit a fair way to save their lives and they got absolutely steamrolled because Europe sets up the golf course where it benefits their players where you simply have to hit the ball.

straight you have to like they cater it to their team we didn't really do that and the united states got absolutely dusted so i have scar tissue from cam young it's still probably not fair to him i still thought there was a chance they might pick him get him in there as like a really young talent kind of like they did when they did a captain's pick for ricky god 12 years ago or so i remember and he he he won a singles match that year that must have been 2010 or something um but anyways i thought they might go with him you really could make a case or any of the last of those three that we kind of threw in the same bucket. But Sam Burns, I don't think he had a great record at the President's Cup last year,

but he played well. I recall everybody being like from a stats data standpoint, he actually played really well. He won the match play, which is huge. That should be a contributing factor. Match play is just a different beast. It's a different bear. It's a different mentally than stroke play. So you get that guy in there who's right there on the points.

He's boys, a lot of these guys. It sounds like the other players on the team went to bat for him when Zach Johnson sort of consulted them. And he won the match play. So hard not to pick him. They pick Sam Burns. I think we have a pretty fucking good team. Having said that, the European team, if we go just to the world rankings, the world points, Roy McElroy, John Rom, Victor Hov, Interior Hat, Tommy Fleetwood, Matthew Fitzpatrick,

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Victor Hovlin is a problem, yeah. All of them are, but Victor is certainly a problem. Victor is a huge problem. That guy just, he, he's always been really, really good. And we've always talked about him being the guy that's going to take the next step. He's just been knocking on that door. And he just Kool-Aid man, that door straight down at the end of this year. I mean, talk about a guy that can just go out and not even, he can calmly destroy a field of the best players in the world.

calmly. He wins. He doesn't even celebrate. Just like hugs his caddy and just goes out and he eats Chipotle. I mean, that guy is a problem. you know that the moment's never too big for him. Victor Halvin, I like that guy a lot. I like watching him.

Horrific outfits on that guy. I don't know. I don't know what kind of deal he has. I don't even know what the brand is. Every single time you see him. Was it at like the U.S. Open or something where they chirped him again on Thursday for his outfit? I think he made a comment being like, I,

you think I pick these outfits? Like I have a fucking endorsement deal. I think I saw one too. I think it was no laying up that tweeted out. Like he has to have enough money at this point. to buy himself out of that merch deal. I don't care what it is. I don't know if it's,

if that merch deal is $30 million, like, be like, hey guys, like, I'm done doing this. I don't care anymore. I don't care.

Even if he doesn't, even if he's not going to buy himself out of the deal, talk to the people who are part of the apparel company and be like, hey, every time I wear your clothes, I get shit on relentlessly. Where are these clothes sold? I don't even know that these are clothes that people in the public can go and buy.

I don't know the brand name. There's not a logo on them. There's just, it's like a concoction of, it's like when you're trying to get, you have that Tetris. They have that Tetris. The Tetris on the back of the neck, right? Yeah, whatever that is. I don't know what that is.

I don't know. It's just, it's a bizarre. It's a very bizarre thing that Victor Halvin has going on. But it's also, it's unique. And it's like, it's to him. I don't hate it. I kind of don't hate it. It's his thing.

It's his brand. He wears horrible shirts. Like, that's just his brand. That I agree on, but it can't be worthwhile for. the company, the apparel company where everything people say about it is horrible. I get that it can be Victor Hovlin's thing. But if you're the apparel company, you got to be like, we got to change something up because every people, the people see Victor Hovlin and they think, boy, that guy can't dress.

And that's not good for an apparel company. I guess all press is good press, right? No, they're just like people are talking about our Tetris shirt. I don't know. I mean, there are no Peter Malar. I'll tell you that. I just don't know what the fuck is going on. I don't know what's going on with that company.

And they got Tetris patterns. Like it's just their fucking square. and rectangles are different colors for no rhyme and reason on that shirt while we're talking about this real quick before trent goes i think we're going to talk about the what is it j linberg that he rocks um the walker cup team the u s the walker cup teams are rocking peter malar i've been all over those social media accounts and they look sharp as hell they're going over to the old course at san andrews it's united states versus gb and i and the uh the team is rocking their peter mary i think they were at the store in new york city and they look fantastic in their peter malar gear so other end of the

it probably does pay to look really, really, really good. Yeah, Peter Malar just shows up. I mean, you know, the Walker Cup has just a really cool vibe around it. It's got a lot of the history. I saw all the old photos that Peter Malar was posting of just like, you know, when we were at National Golf Links, they had the Walker Cup stuff in the superintendents, like the barn back there. And they had all these old signs of the Walker Cup.

And you're just like, man, that's like, that's something that not enough people talk about where it's the best young golfers in the world. just going after each other's throats on the best golf courses in the world. It's a really cool event that I don't think I don't get up for it enough. Like I need to start paying attention more to the Walker Cup. How about they're doing it at the old course? How sick is that? That's what I mean.

Would they do Seminole? I think they did Seminole a couple years ago, everybody gets sick. I think it was there. And they obviously did it at National. They did it National not that long ago. I think they've done it at Cyprus not that long ago. That's awesome. Sick places, yeah.

Um, there's a, there's an event that so I, I'm super summer right now because I, I went out and played Shinnock the other day. Another good golf course ever heard. I wasn't sure if you're going to talk about that. There's no, there are, there is absolutely no shade at that place. I'm talking when you get out of your car, you're in the sun for the next six hours. That's just what's going to happen and I wasn't prepared for it. I'm a tomato.

I went to sleep the last two nights with a cold rag on my face because I don't know. I've never had a burn like this. It hurts. It absolutely hurts. My face is leather. But there, and I'm going to butcher this story because I don't know the name of it, but people that are listening that know of it. There's basically Sabonic and National and Shinnock, all the caddies play in this tournament. And it's supposed to be the most intense matchups in golf.

Like when these guys get together and all these big, huge clubs and all their members like get behind their caddies and they're playing against like, because obviously in that area. area. You got National versus Shinnock. You're like, we want to beat those guys across the street. And you got two of the top 10 in the freaking country. I've heard that this event, and I forget the name of it, they have like a name for it. But these caddies, I heard like off channel wants to like get like rights to it. And they're like, no, no, no. We want to just keep it to ourselves. Like this is just our thing. But I mean, can you imagine the intensity of sending out your six caddies against their six and how fucking intense it must be to play in these things? Because these caddies, it's everything. to them. It's everything to them. That's so nerve-wracking because you're already as a caddy too, right? Like, you're representing the club, but not as like a member. You're like, you like work for the club. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you work for the members and then you're out there wrapping the club. Oh, but if you win, you are an icon. I've been it changes your fucking life. You win that thing. Oh my God. I can't even imagine some of the, you know, you make this putt. Like, you make this putt that you carry for. And he's like, looking at you the distance being like, if you make this putt, you're set kids. It's like, holy shit. Let's go. Let's go.

That got me going. That gets me going. Yeah, Walker Cup. Dude, they've got, I was just looking, some of their, they played Seminole, Royal Liverpool, LACC, Royal L-A-C, Royal Lidham and St. Anne's, National Golf Lings, Royal Aberdeen, Marion, Royal County Down in 2007, Chicago Golf Club, 2005, which is supposed to be off the charts. It was at, it was at Cyprus in 1981. It was at Shinnock in 77. it was at Pine Valley in 85. Like the Walker Cup has unreal venues.

Our guy Colton Nose was on the Walker Cup team, right? He had to admit because he won the U.S. Amateur that year. Right. So funny to think of him being just a fucking stick, like a top of the world stick. He is too. Have you played with him? Yeah, I beat him at a...

Oh, that's right. He gave me like 17... Oh, we pushed, which was to him a loss. But it was at Spanish Bay. Yeah. And I did a cartwheel on the 18th green. He missed a putt. He three putt at 18.

He never had three putts. He won putts every old. He lagged it up to like five feet and just fucking, he just like pulled it. Oh, that's got to kill him. I sprinted, sprinted off the green. That's got to kill him. Yeah, Coltnosed is a string. It's got a weird thing going on with his screen right now where.

What? You see in that? He's in slow motion. Is that just for me? So you're not frozen where like your screen would be frozen, but you're not doing the things in real time. like your eyes are moving. Are you seeing this or am I having a stroke? Rick, hold on.

I need him to talk so I can tell if it's no. He's pretty. No, for me, he's spot. He's spot on. Oh my God. You, Bush. No, he's fine for me too. How do I look right now?

All right. I think Frankie's having a stroke. No, I'm taking a video. You're flying through space right now. I mean, I don't, I feel fine. I feel okay, you know. I don't know. So in my, in my viewpoint, Trent was like this and he was, and I was like,

oh, he's frozen. And then his eyes was kind of moving. and then he would do this, but then he was just responding to what I was saying. So I'm like, wait a minute. What the fuck's going on? Your mouth isn't moving. I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

You're still moving your hands in my shit. I mean, I am moving my hands, but wait, you're making me feel like I'm on drugs. I can't handle this. I don't think I've fully prepared myself for how excited I am to actually watch the Rider Cup. Yeah, that looks insane when I'm moving my hands like that in some motion. The Rider Cup you're saying to watch it? Yes.

Dude, like the intensity. Remember, like, I feel like it doesn't take long either. I feel like it's a couple holes in. Usually we get like some sort of gimmy controversy or like a rule. And like right away you realize there's bad blood. People were rattled and we're just off and running. So yeah, I, yeah. Rider Cup will hype it up a lot.

What time we got this going on? Like two, three o'clock in the morning? I'm fucked. I don't know what I'm going to do because I'm going to be in Arizona. I might have to go. They'll be like teeing off. at midnight. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to be flying to Rome and basically on like Saturday night and I'll be landing Sunday. So I'll be in Rome for Sunday of the Ryder Cup for my honeymoon. I was thinking about, do I just like meet up with Danny Rap and like we just do the podcast from there like us to and then zoom into you guys? I think so. I think that's what we got to do. That would be great if you guys were on, you know.

I should just go to. I don't know if I could do that my honeymoon. I should just go to the fuck Ryder Cup. but yeah the time is going to be out of control. I know I should go Sunday. I should just go Sunday. Yeah, it's going to be incredible. I mean,

I have no idea what to expect about this golf course. I don't know if you guys have done any recon or any, any search and any flyovers. I think I'm just going to wait. I think I'm going to let the broadcast do the job. So yeah, I'm very excited. Rider Cup season is great.

Obviously, we have all the merch on. Speaking of, go check it out. Yeah. store at bargealsports.com or go to the pGA tour super store we got the rider cup gear is in there uh we got a bunch of the unreal quarter zips and hoodies left the crew necks i'm going to wear that crew neck this fall every day i think those crew decks are so fucking good um the hats i think we're selling mostly sold out of the hats i don't know if we're going to restock i doubt it i don't know that we like

it's such a limited edition type situation and such a rare opportunity this hat i'm wearing and i know the merchant team probably doesn't want me having this conversation on air. But like, I think that we absolutely should be selling more of these and just tell the people that order them. Like, you're not going to get them in time for the writer cup, but it's an all time once in a lifetime hat. Clearly they want it. I mean, we've seen the numbers of the people that tried to purchase it after it sold out. And it's astronomical. So like, why don't we just do that and be like, you're going to get this hat at some point.

Like, we have one month. Do you think we could just get it to people in one month? But it's also. you can't like who cares you still are you only going to wear this hat between now and the and the sunday of the rider cup there's no way people are going to be wearing that hat till they're 80 right it's the bet matt barzel told me it's the sickest hat he's ever seen in his entire life he's worn it for four straight days since he's gotten it the people in our lives who know what cool is are like we love that hat like that has let's sell and again we should just probably text our merch team but like let's just sell

50,000 of those i think the problem is is that Like if you do, if you order more and you're stuck with a bunch of stock, like, uh, these hats in stock or on the shelves, you're basically like you're never selling these hats because it's so time sensitive. Yeah, we become like they're wearing them in, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Other countries where. For sure. But I think this one specifically that I am wearing, I mean, I'm getting death threats being like, put another one on sale with a fucking gun to my head.

They're like, I want one now. One guy wrote. Because we always referenced the clip. One guy sent me just the clip from 40-year-old virgin being like, I want that hat. Just put these on sale. Just I want to give you money and I want that hat. Just put it on sale again.

Again, this is a very, this is an elementary question and we should probably just text the people who know. If we have a huge wait list, those are how many we should make. Right. Right. No, I think you have to be very specific with the wording and saying, listen, we have to remake these, like the diamond, like the whole entire deal. It's a very retro hat.

We've got to order it from a different supplier. The day that you get this might not even be around the Ryder Cup, but you will get this. This hat will be yours at some point. People just want it. People just want it. We're going to do everything we can to just get those two people. I think that's a good hat. I think that's our move.

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Drinkbiolite.com code is melon 15% off. What a world, fellas, where we are doing co-branded Rider Cup gear. I never thought I would see the day. I don't even know how that is real. Shout to Quinn. Shout out to our entire merchandise team. Just worked their absolute tails off to get these deals done, get these partnerships done.

Somehow credit to us that we haven't burned those bridges over seven years. It's amazing, really. I mean, we tried. We were at moments where probably did, you know, and then the bridge just kind of reappeared or somebody fixed it. So, yeah, the gear is really, really good. It's one of those things where I've seen it throughout my Barstle tenure, where it's companies or brands or whoever are sometimes nervous about getting involved with

parcel but the ones that do see an immediate like people people will buy it like the cool stuff that they put on sale if they will if they partner with us it's just going to sell some people are like oh no we're not going to we don't want to do it but then when brands do it's like holy shit the ones that do we've sold so much of every type of merch that we have put out with a co-branded company or a tournament or whatever it's just it's going to sell to that point. we saw how about that uh phoenix open gear that we saw a couple weeks ago we're already starting to pre-plan for phoenix open gear oh my god if you're going to the phoenix open this year you better go with an open checkbook because the stuff that we are producing for that is a problem for people's bank

accounts and yeah i really like it because it keeps our stuff pretty fresh like i have all these collections and all these drops and it's like fall collection spring collection all of our stuff's incredible and then we're able to kind of just put out a full line of this where it's like it's a rider cup cup just on the chest of a hoodie and like it's that we don't have to church it up we don't have to get too crazy it's just what the brand is and we're kind of just co-branded with these incredible institutions of the game of golf and all this stuff it's it's a it's a wild place to be um yeah shout to quinn speaking of which Quinn also secured all those deals with a pGA super store which our stuff is in so if you don't want to wait and you don't

want to order it also online. There's some stuff that's exclusively at PGA Superstore. Specifically, the thing that my dad was wearing in all that promotion that we were putting out, it's like that American flag windbreaker, and I got a million messages about where to get it. And you can get it at the PGA Superstore. I think it's in every single one in America. I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, I went up to the one right by my house yesterday, and they've got that bad boy in there, and they've got a handful of items that only sisters. And we have a ton of women's rider cup gear in there. that I hadn't seen, so I went up there and wanted to check that out. They had a whole fucking table that's got like sweaters, skirts, all kinds of good stuff, hats that are just exclusively Barstool Golf with like the lowercase, cursive sort of women's logo that we got combined with Rider Cup. So that stuff is sick.

So yeah, PJTor Super Store. And then I think there's a few items at Dix and at Golf Galaxy too. So if you go into those, look for the Barstool Golf Rider Cup gear, but very, very cool. Long Island, PGA Super Store real quick. before we get to that, I am going to be at a grand opening of a PGA superstore on September 9th in Comac, New York, North Shore, Long Island. They're opening up a brand new PGA super store. I'm going to be there throughout the day. I think from like 10 a.m. till like 3 p.m. We're going to be doing a bunch of stuff. Whole in one contest closest to the pin. We're going to be in all the bays. We're going to be

looking at all the, all the shirts and stuff. I think people like legitimately line up outside and sleep outside PJ Superstores before they enter. I'm sure there's some sort of incentive to being like the first one in. Um, so I'm going to be there for it. It should be pretty good. September 9th, I'll be in Comac. Are you going to cut? Is there a ribbon you get to cut? I don't know if there's a ribbon.

I would, I don't know if I'm going to be there in time. I don't know if I'm sleeping out on the pavement. I hope not because we're getting back from San Valley like the day before. But if I have to, I will. I'll cut a ribbon. I never cut a ribbon before. Dude,

I went in there yesterday. PJ tour super stores are fucking awesome. I went in a couple, like you almost can't help you go in there. I got a couple clubs regripped. I was like grabbing shoes. I was looking. It's just they got everything. I was rolling putts.

They had huge putting green. I was over there rolling puts. Like, what do you think about the roll? What do you think about the lying on this guy? You know, you just can't help but be in there for a while. You're surrounded by golf people. So, yeah, PJ Tour Superstore does it great. They regripped a couple of my clubs in about four seconds,

which really it feels like you got a whole brand new golf club when you get something regrip. Put my golf pride back on my driver. It is a new grips, dude, make the biggest difference in the world. It is, I think it sounds obvious, but when it happens, they put it in your hand and you have that traction and that grip again that you haven't had. You had that like slippery old sort of like beat up wear and tear grip on there. It makes the world a difference on a golf club.

It feels so much. Oh, yeah. We're golf pride guys. I have always had the multi-compound, I think, is what it's called the MCs where it's just the two different two-tone. I have the black and white standard grip. Everyone knows it. It's the best grip ever made. I'm actually making a switch.

I have, you know, Taylor made sending us some new stuff that's coming out. out. Obviously, we have like the MG4s that just came out the wedges. We've got the new P790s that are coming out. I asked for the Z grip to be put on my clubs. I'm switching to a new grip. Because I had, I got my hands on one at a PGA Superstore and it made a huge difference, man. Like it's just stickier. And I've been using the MCs for ever. So it's going to be a whole new world for me. Like you're saying, so I feel like new clubs, like completely new clubs, because I'm just changing the grip completely. How about Ryan Whitney told me he made a wild change to his grip? Did he tell you about this at the Barso Awards?

He's swinging baseball grip. No way. And he said it changed his game. I don't know if he even wants that public because I said that's pathetic. I looked at him. I said, that's pathetic. What a psychopath. He says someone told him to make the change.

I almost want to like call him and make him come on this podcast because it's that, it's that drastic of a change. He's played golf his whole life. How do you just change your grip like that? 10 finger baseball grip? Yeah, he's just fucking grabbing it like thumb to thumb. It's fucking nuts. I did that for a while, but it was, it was not, and Whitney's so much better golf than I am.

Like, he should not be doing that. But I remember I went then and saw Tillery and he was like, you're not leaving Cuskewilla until you're not doing the baseball grip anymore. He was like, you just simply cannot be doing that. Because I got it from, what's his name? Cale McCar, is that a name? Yeah. He did it when we were at the Scramble in Denver. And he was doing it.

And I tried it. And it does feel better. but it's not a real fix. You just feel like you're swinging a baseball bat, so it feels like you have more power. But ultimately, it's not the right thing to do. I'm stunned that Ryan Whitney is doing that.

I'd be lying if I didn't say I tried it the first time I went to a range after he told me. And it felt kind of good. It felt kind of good, but then I said, I can't do this. I can't get that in my brain to be like,

oh, maybe this is a fix. You can't even start that because then your brain's always going to be like, well, we don't like the other thing now. And then I'm going to be stuck with no grips. You've been hitting good,

Frankie. I feel like you shouldn't be doing that. I don't need to experiment. Did you talk about your round of Colonial the other day? We played with the Black Friday guys. Oh, yeah. No, I didn't. Yeah, I almost broke par at Colonial the other day.

Jesus. I had a put for 73. It was essentially all ball and hole because the three guys that we were playing with, we played, we did our Black Friday contest with two guys, one guy from Chicago, and I was Gabe, and it was Zach. And they were from Chicago and Kansas City they flew in from. So shout out to those guys. They came and played Colonial.

We went to the Borelli's Tapram after. So essentially they were part of the Black Friday contest from last year. We picked four winners and we had them all come out and play over the last couple months. Anyway, we played Colonial. They're all, I guess they were 18 handicaps. Trent played at the same handicap as them. And I gave them all one stroke on every single hole. So every ball I had to put like in the hole because it was like I had to make the putt based off of what they were doing.

And I shot 70 fucking four. I couldn't miss all day. And Colonial is not the easiest spot as whoever watched Breaking 90 this week will be able to attest to. And yeah. So I'm just playing well. It's a tough golf course. You know what else is tough? So I tried to take that 74 right into the next day I was playing Shinnecock.

There's tough golf courses. And then you play like a tough golf course. That is another, that's another level. You played it from deep too, right? Yeah. Yeah, we played it from the reds, the backs. The reds there are the backs, which is bizarre. It was about 7,000 into like the opposite of the prevailing wind.

So it was like usually it's a north wind. So everything was into it. Oh, man. That course is so hard. I mean, Riggs, we're talking like a couple T-boxes. I'm standing up there. And it's like, all right, this is a 440 par four dead into the wind. So you just like rip driver.

And then that gets in your head because you're like, I have to fucking smash this thing. And you do. And then it's like, I'm on the right side of the fairway. I probably hit it like 285. and I still have forever to this green. It's like 185 stick playing 220. And then you just like slap one left. You're in the fescue.

You're like, how am I supposed to play this golf course? It's amazing, no. Honestly, that's the second time I ever played. First time I was a Big Cat. He went straight leg and was like throwing balls onto the green. It was an amazing experience. Oh, he shot 72, actually.

Big Cat shot at 72. He shot even level par at Chinat. This was, yeah, it was a tough golf course, man. I shot like 86 or something. Like it just doesn't add up from colonial to that. It's just like the game doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how you're playing. It's a really, really tough golf course.

Really tough. Sheaney, baby. That is a, that's a staple. That's one of the courses on the rotation. Yeah, man. You know what it is?

I can't commit when all these fall, and I'm sure you deal with this at Pinehurst, but the false fronts and whenever you get wind involved, I had a really tough time committing to the number that I was supposed to hit. So it'd be like 120 to the stick. and they'd be like, give me 140. And I'm like, well, that's a completely different club. And I have to really commit to, like, hitting this nine iron pretty solid, even though I know it might be like a 50 degree on a normal day.

And I just wasn't giving it everything I had. And I'd just come off it a little bit. And I'd hit the front of the green and it'd rip off. So all these greens I was supposed to hit in regulation were just like 30 yards off the green. Now you're chipping up the hill. And it's just all day. All day you're chipping up the hill or you're hitting like marathon, like home run, Hail Mary Puts. and you're just like, fuck, man.

It's just not an easy day of golf. But if you play the slopes the right way, you can actually score there. Yeah, you get that at number two a lot because it's just a very precise second shot golf course. And you have to convince yourself that like if that pins on the left, you cannot be anywhere near it. Because even if you land a golf shot that you think's right on it, it doesn't stop rolling until it's in a really bad spot. and then you're down there like how the fuck am I going to even make bogey from here? And then you do that. And that's like one of the holes where you hit a great drive and you played it pretty well.

And you're like, Jesus Christ. And then by the time you add it up five hours later, you're just like, that was awful. What happened right there? Jesus. Yeah. But yeah, it's US Open. It's a US Open course. I can't imagine playing it from the fucking US Open T's, man.

I mean, we were looking back at some of these things and you're like, what are you talking about? like 530 par four into the wind how how i don't you need a rocket launcher you need a rocket launcher off the tea yeah that like one of why tiger can't tiger can't play there like tiger's never been able to play a shinnock yeah that like third hole i think it is is the one that dave started on and it's legit like 530 par four probably into the wind when you played it and you have to like in the green is crazy difficult so it's like that's okay if you hit a great drive rate drive like for us get one 280 or something you got like 240 or 250 into that green and you're like what do you I ask multiple times what you're talking about multiple times I'm

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Get 15% off your first purchase. Speaking of Tiger Woods, a nice video of him this week. Mike Trout put it out with his little golf course. All things considered, I think he took maybe half a step in the video. Look pretty fucking good to me. He looked good.

He was moving smooth out there. I didn't see any limping going on. And I have to say, I love that Tiger Woods still to this day, does not know how to dress unless he's just wearing a full golf outfit. He's in like a normal business setting in theory. He's out there walking a golf course, which like if you're if you're like designing and pointing out, right, you could be in you could be in anything. You could be in some street clothes, some casual wear.

There's all kinds of good cool casual wear now out there. He's just he was just an head to toe golf outfit, which is the only time Tiger Woods ever, ever, ever, ever knows how to dress in a way that looks good, decent, put together, intimidating. is when he wears a golf outfit. And that whole video he was just wearing, I believe it was black pants, white golf shirt, and like a black golf hat. And he just looked like Tiger Woods should look all the time. I loved it.

I loved that video. Incredible job by the editing team. You saw him maybe take half a step. This is a guy who's showing up to a golf course, touring a golf course, like kind of, it's a pretty all-intensive video. And you never really see him take a full step.

There's one part where it's supposed, to be showing him walking, but they switch to like a camera shutter where it's like, doon, doom and you don't actually see him take a step. So it was an amazing video. Anytime we can get a video of the boss man, it's a good day. But it did seem like they were hiding him from taking a step,

which is fine, I guess. Such a random collab, Tiger Woods and Mike Trout. I mean, I know he's the best player in baseball. And I mean, aside from his teammate, Shohei Atani,

but my God, is that just random that tiger he got tiger woods to just make a golf course for him in his hometown that's just so crazy in jersey too it's not like it's in this exotic crazy location it's in fucking new jersey this is going to be a public golf course is it could be like a resort or is it it going to be a country club i thought the original lay it was like it was going to be kind of a destination place this kind of way that they touted it but or trouted it but i'm not 100% sure nice um i know you mentioned flyovers earlier frankie i was chatting with my guy brandon and at San Valley, we're going to be there in less than a week.

And I was telling him how I traditionally like to go to new courses blind. And so I wasn't really going to look at anything on Lido. And he was like, I highly encourage you look at everything on Lido because I took a bunch of flyovers and everything. And he's like, and when I stood on the first T, I didn't recognize anything. And so I think that these next couple of days, I'm going to study the Lido really, really hard. We're going there next week.

It's what's coming up next for the fellas. This is our next trip. PGA tour season's over. So we're going to start banging out a bunch of videos in the next couple weeks. And I am so excited to get to Wisconsin. I fucking love Wisconsin golf. Yeah, it's going to be great, man. That Lido course, we've talked about it at length on this podcast on video game streams.

But it was here on Long Island. The history behind that's going to be great to be able to put that on video. It was here on Long Island. It was like the number one golf course in the world. It was Augusta and Pine Valley and then Lido Club. And like all these iconic architects used to come and help out with it and restore it and whatever. And then it got used as a barrack space during one of the world wars. And it just never recovered.

They never recovered the golf course. They kind of let it be. It turned into Lido Golf Course, which it is now. There's a Lido Golf Club there. Public track in Lido Beach. Super nice layout. It's a very public track. It gets a ton of golf.

It's not anything as prestigious as it used to be. Some guy finds the blueprints or however he gets them and builds a PGA tour 2K23 golf course called the Lido Club to the exact LIDAR scanning specs that the original Lido Club on Long Island was. And he built it to the fucking T. Every single mound, every single green movement was perfect. So much so that I think he just got contracted or San Valley figured a way to be able to use that information and just build the Lido Club. Wisconsin. They have a fake ocean out there, like where the water would have been at Lido Club. And it's just, it's an amazing, amazing achievement in like, it kind of combines the whole world of golf we're living in where it's like virtual, uh, PGA tour 2K 23. The guy's able to build a

golf course and becomes a real one in Wisconsin. That's fucking nuts to me. So I cannot wait to step on that first tee and see that place. It's like you're stepping back in time. I think it's that LIDAR people talk about that LIDAR information, that LIDAR, whatever they shoot late. and you can kind of you can see it bounces off the original like rendering of whatever you're shooting it into i don't get just because like they didn't have that like 1912 so there's no way they had that if they did then that yeah it's really impressive because they didn't have anything back then no it's a it's a it's a very i mean i could be butchering the story it's kind of what i've gathered from playing 2k23 i don't know if every everything i said is correct we'll find out in a week we're

going to be there next week we're going to be playing the lito and we'll we'll see. They'll give us all the history that we need to know and maybe they'll correct me. But it's a great story nonetheless. I'm excited. It looks absolutely sick. I'm looking at pictures right now. I mean, it looks sick. Like unlike any golf course I've ever seen. Are we going to talk about the people that are coming to this thing? Are we just going to leave that for the surprise of just when people follow us on social next week? I think we let it be a mystery. Okay. We don't have to, but we can. It's up to us. I mean, the writing's been on the wall. Like we're doing way more stuff with people at Barstool. I think

that it's been a resurgence or I guess you'd call it because it's not like or maybe what's the word for like it just pops out of nowhere this love for golf at barstle has just fucking popped out of it's it's like a it's like a spooky thing at Halloween like one of those spooky rides or just fucking pops up and gets you but every single person that you walk by at the office has a set of Taylor made golf clubs and they're just playing a ton of golf bug has bit the barstall office for sure yeah yeah for sure there's been an infestation of golf at barstall and we're just we're excited at all. We are fucking playing with everyone. We are bringing everyone on our shows. So we're going to be doing a lot more of that specifically with the Barstle travel series. I mean, we got a lot of talent here at Barcelona. There's no reason why we shouldn't be seeing how every single person hits a golf shot. We got Barstall golfs, the series I do at Colonial. Now we've got the travel series. We are bringing some people out there. It's going to be great. I fucking love it. I think that this is what we've always been kind of building towards where you can just, you can pick people out and you can include them in the stuff that we're doing. It just makes everything fucking awesome. It's going to be a great week.

Give them the names. Well, we got Lurch is a big one. Lurch is just a huge one. The fact that Lurch is going to be there. It's like that's maybe, we've got Lurch coming and we got fucking Jersey Jerry coming for the Wisconsin San Valley trip and possibly even more people coming from that Chicago area

to try and meet us. We're playing a lot of golf. We've got a lot of opportunity for people to be coming. So yeah, Lurch, Jersey Jerry, the whole crew, the OG crew, we're going to be getting a lot of OG matches going. I know we're going to run back that alternate shot from Big Cedar. Yeah, we need it.

That's going to be incredible. We fucking need it. Maybe our best match we've ever had. And it was even back closer to. I mean, we need to play well that day because I got a lot of heat for that match. Fuck. I mean, we just, yeah, I'm nervous about it. That's a big one.

I can't wait to step up. I can't wait to tee it up with the big man. I can't wait. Can't wait to see Jerry out there, how he's going to be. We're going to be doing like three on three scrambles. The whole deal is going to be fucking. This is, is just it's great we're hitting our stride breaking 90s out we're hitting you from all different angles

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I don't know if we really need to talk about that, but we did discuss like three weeks ago on this show, and we kind of gave our very, because all three of us are pretty long-term Barstow employees, we gave our very honest sort of input on what was going to, what Barstool was going to look like after Dave took over. And there were a lot of people in the Barstool world and outside that were like, this is great, happy go lucky.

And we were like, well, you better be pretty fucking careful because Dave having kind of his finger on the pulse of Barstool in every element of it is very, very different world than the one that we had probably been living in in the last few years. And since a lot of people got hired, we had the Barstool Awards last week, which we talked about, which actually went pretty damn well. But at the end of the day, Barstool Sports as a whole, ever since. to take over from Penn and from churning and everything has gone from a profitable company to a company that is losing money.

So people unfortunately got cut at Barstool, which is absolutely horrible. It sucks. I know Dave talked about it a lot. Like Dave doesn't really come off as a particularly empathetic person all the time in the public sphere. But I think when he talks about that kind of stuff, he very, very much does come off that way. And he talks about how he's never been one to fire people and letting people go stinks.

So I just address that very quickly and say that like anybody getting laid off at any company stinks it happening. And our company is absolutely awful. And it really leads me to give a huge thank you to everybody that supports Foreplay because it allows us to basically hire people that are awesome, like our entire crew behind the scenes. It allows us to go on the trip like we're about to go next week, San Valley, film these awesome videos, get these awesome experiences, work with our merch team to create really, really cool merchandise. and people buying the merchandise, people watching our videos, people listen to this podcast, allows us to like literally keep our jobs

and not lose them. And so kind of just like a little bit of a wake up call to all of us that are in this business. But remind me that I think we're all very, very, very thankful to all the playtrens out there and all the four play fans. Couldn't have said it better. 100% correct. Dave is at the helm of this thing and he's got to get,

he's got to get under control. And unfortunately, that makes for some tough decisions that you have to make. I mean, I watch radio today and KFC was kind of doing a good job of not saying everything he wants to say because I don't know how much is supposed to be like public of really the way it went down with Dave buying this company back. But from what you can gather from the way that they're like talking around it and beating around the bush, they're like Dave saved the company almost.

Like there was going to be a lot more stuff coming that was worse for the employees that have been here for years and years and years and years than it is now. So I think he has to make some tough decisions. But for the greater good of the business, he had to step in and buy this thing back because it was on a path that I guess no one, him, Erica, they didn't like where it was going for you know what I'm saying? So I think it's all great for Barstool. It's obviously horrible on a personal level when anyone gets fired.

But you just got to get this thing back. You got to get you got to get this thing back, man. been a it's been wild it's been uh basically changing the course of where you thought the company was going to go like it was on its way in a huge way right it was on it was on it was on its way to one place for four years and you're building up to that thing and then all of a sudden it's just like snap a finger nope not anymore go back to the way it was but you have all of this that we tossed on to you and you have a massive massive massive payroll and huge company now deal with it it's like holy shit okay if we don't have the same goals we had last week we need to reassess everything and

that comes with fucking bad shit that comes a bad shit it just is what it is and uh it sucks but thank you to everyone like rake said that's amazing that we're able to still fucking be here there has been a lot of talk about and we've we've talked about it how it's like oh now we're back to the old barstool now we're back to the old barstool i witnessed it today in the office watching dave and nate go at it mostly watching dave go at nate after nate went into his office and if you follow barstool you'll know what i'm talking about but it was a whole thing today it was it's as mad at as I've seen Dave in such a long time. And that,

that's a testament to like, now we're back. Dave is literally going through everything, looking at everything. He's making these tough decisions like you guys are talking about. And then when something pisses him off like Nate did today, he just, he gets into the mode that we've all been used to a little bit pre-pen and certainly

pre-churning for me. Like, yeah, no, we're just, he was so mad today. Well, Nate's a moron.

I love Nate. I love Nate. I love Nate too. And he, Dave, inspired. people and he went in there and like argued with him about like firing people like just get out of the fire dude just get out of that room now i watch dude i watched him walk into dave's office and i didn't know what he was going in there for but i knew how long he was in there and the way that the voices were starting to rise i was like he has been in there for way too long and then dave came out and he was fucking furious and he did it i felt i got that feeling in where you're just like whoa and yeah he went on radio talked about it ended up being

They ended up in a good spot, but boy, there was 10 to 15 minutes where Dave was just breathing fire around the office. Breathing fire. Yeah. Yep. And, you know, I think people will notice like we're, you know, we're going to be, Frankie mentioned it. We're getting people involved in golf videos more. We're basically going to be more tied to the office than we've probably been in years and years. You guys have been more so than me because I don't live there.

But, but just we love old school barstool. We're all big part of it. We all did radio shows. We all grew up in terms of our careers at Barstool, not doing what we do now at all. We did stuff completely different. And that stuff was very much being in the mix, as we like to say, at Barstool. The award show last week was like we were all kind of back in there. We were all chirping.

We were all the targeted chirps. We were all involved in different moments, different gaffs, different, just whatever. And so being part of that, being part of Barstool is like kind of who we are. And we just happened to have carved out this size. of golf that we spend a lot of our time doing. But we love Barstool. We're Barstool guys. None of us would be here without Dave. We wouldn't have this cool job without Dave. And so to see him kind of getting his hands back around Barstool is enormous for us. I think it, you know, I think it probably means that foreplay will be a part of Barstool sports for way, way longer than it was looking like

it might have been underpin, especially the more we kind of learn about everything. And so yeah, it's great. We're Barstle guys. We love Barstle. We love Dave and Erica and the whole crew. So, yeah, interesting times, obviously shitty on a personal level. But I think ultimately after Dave kind of makes the cuts that he thinks he needs to make and kind of gets Barstool under control again, it'll probably be a fantastic thing for your boys. So, yeah.

All right. We'll be back. Yeah, next week. I think we'll be in person. We'll be doing a show. I imagine if Lurch is with us, we could probably wrangle him into doing a podcast in person. So maybe next time. folks hear a podcast LERD might be on the podcast, which would be great.

And yeah, we'll have kind of the whole crew. So I'm pumped for fucking Wisconsin. I'm very excited to get everybody together and throw in a few new names. It's just good times ahead. We got the Ryder Cup gear. So please go buy some gear. Oh, we got Fidelberg coming out today. Oh, wow.

Is that right? Barstool Golfs. Let's go. That's tonight. John Fidelberg joins Barstool Golfs tonight. Just, you know, that's the definition of what we just talked about, getting more people involved in the golf content. I mean, we took him out of the KFC radio studio to go play golf. I don't know.

He said he hadn't played golf in years. Yep. And he was very nervous. He was wearing very wide pants. He looked great. And yeah, he was super, super nervous about just like walking on eggshells at a golf course.

And it was great. I fucking love Fidelberg. Trent was a part of that episode. And it's just, it's a great episode. So tonight, I'm assuming we'll do like seven o'clock. I don't know what,

unless that's like the first opening night of football. No, that's not this week. Is it? No. Okay. I guess we're fine. That's next week. All right, we're rolling. It's tonight. Let's go, baby. Barstlegoffs, John Fidelberg. Let's go. I got to go make some smash burgers. Go make those burgers. We'll be back on Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.