Fore Play - Kevin Kisner Annual Checkup
Episode Date: January 23, 2020Kiz joins the show for his yearly checkup. Per usual, he weighs in on our golf games, if Rory could beat Frankie blindfolded, if Riggs has a chance in the 5-iron match, how he likes his chances at thi...s year’s majors, what’s going on at Augusta National and MUCH more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Hello.
Kiz.
Hey, buddy.
What are you doing?
Doing great.
How are you?
Living the dream, buddy.
Where are you right now?
Driving down the road in Aiken, South Carolina.
I feel like you're driving every time we have you on the show.
You just drive all the time?
I just got to get out of the house, man.
You little cabin fever?
My wife would kill me if she knew the things I talked about on your podcast.
It is public.
I mean, I guess you just don't.
Yeah, but she doesn't know about Barstool Sports.
That's smart.
You got to keep her that.
I mean, she does now.
We have a sweet time at your house.
She loves us.
She invited us back down whenever we want.
Yeah, but she's not downloading your podcast.
Yeah, that's true.
She thinks we presented a very different version of ourselves for her.
Absolutely, you did.
So we're just recording.
We're just going to kind of wing.
it. I've never dreamed
anything different, Riggs. You got the whole squad
here, buddy. What's up, Kiz?
Oh, I do. What's up, KISS? Hey, Kiz.
Hi, everyone.
Hi, Kiz. That was very formal, Kis.
That was Lertz back there. I thought he might be
selling software. Always trying.
If you're buying, I'm selling.
I don't hear you, dog.
How's the weather down there, kids? I was
taxing you earlier this weekend. Sounds like it's
pretty shitty. Cold
as balls, man.
And 40 in my truck right now, so there's no golf in the forecast.
You wearing that stupid hat, that stupid stocking hat?
I got another one, a wheels-up hat this time, but I'll send you a selfie of me with it really high on my head again.
Please do.
How are you, like, going to train and get better at golf if you're just in a cold non-golf environment right now?
I'll play like 25 out of the past 27 days.
I think I need a break.
Yeah, no...
It'll warm up this weekend.
No Torrey Pines, eh?
Why don't you play Tori Pines?
I couldn't finish last in that tournament, bud.
What does that mean?
What is that supposed to be?
I love the line.
I just can't even figure it out.
It's like 7,600 yards on Pohana and sea level and cold.
Why don't you like Pohanna?
Because the ball doesn't go in when it's supposed to.
I mean, it goes in for Tiger.
Yeah, well, he's got a horseshoe up his ass or something.
You think that's the difference?
Must be.
Remember watching that putty made at Torrey Pines?
I don't know if it was a major or, I think it was a major.
It bounced the entire way there and went in.
Yeah, I know.
And the lake on the last hole.
Yep.
Yeah.
Well, mine doesn't ever go in.
It bounces like that, but then it just doesn't go in.
I always wondered that, like, do other professional golfers look at him being like,
There's got to be something supernatural about it because I just can't do some of the things he's done over his career.
Like some of the things just won't happen for me.
100%.
Do you think it's the horseshoe?
I think it's a golden one.
That's got to infuriate people, right?
Like some of these chips and sitting on the edges at Augusta and like all these things just like it just happens for Tiger.
Like what if these things just didn't happen?
You know, like certain bounces here and there.
Certain parts just ran out.
Yeah, I was just getting into there.
Yeah.
It's a game of like, like, millimeters.
Yeah, for them.
For us, it's a game.
For them.
Yeah.
It ends up working out pretty well for everybody.
Yeah, I mean.
When Tiger plays that way.
How's your golf games?
You don't play this time of year, do you?
We haven't played in at least a month, month and a half.
Kids, after you told me to play on the balls in my feet,
I don't think I had a bad round after that.
You're a striper now?
Well, we went to, like, Australia, and I just played, like, decent golf.
I almost broke 80 one of the days.
I shot an eight.
How about my boy Trenton his left hand?
Is this two all weak fades over there?
No, I'm telling you, that thing has just completely changed my golf game.
And I tell people about it, and then they come back to me, and they're like,
that has completely changed my golf game.
I absolutely flush my irons.
I would say, like, 65% of the time I hit at least a decent iron,
when before I was hitting a decent iron maybe 10% of the time.
It's changed my game completely.
You'd probably be beating rigs by then the next year.
I think you're right.
I mean, if he keeps progressing the way that he has with this little show two knuckles or three knuckles move that you taught him,
that's kind of revolutionizing the world of amateur golf, then yeah, I think he will.
He's taking divets with his irons now.
Well, Trent's also at the level of golf where, like, him improving is so much more fun than anyone else improving.
Correct.
It's like, we, like, when I shoot like a 97 and the next day I shoot in 85, it's like, oh, well, I probably should have just had the 85 the first day.
When Trent now breaks 100, it's like new territory.
Every single score you have now
Every low score is a new territory
That you're just etching away at
That's awesome
Kids who has the most potential out of the three that you saw
For improving or be the best player
Be the best player
Riggs
Come on
I didn't think you're going to say that
No chance I thought you were going to say that
I thought you were going to say he has the worst swing
I thought it be Frankie
Frankie's just looks the best I guess
And I don't know the nuts and bolts of it
But Frankie's looks at them
He should be like a solid six handicap, but he's such a headcase.
He's got no chance.
I wish I was down there.
It's incredible how true that is.
Like if Frankie just, if Frankie's brain wasn't the way Frankie's brain is, I think he'd be so much better at golf.
It's incredible how mentally fucked I am on the golf course.
If you have my brain, you would never shoot in the 80s.
That's so hard.
That's so hard to handle.
It's like a mental thing.
It's like my brain is defeating me.
You know that.
though. Like you don't not know that. I know. I know. I mean, the first
hole at his home course was...
You hit it into the water and it was impossible to go into the water. When they talk about it,
when they talk about the first hole, the water's just not in the conversation. It's actually
not even on that hole. It's not even on that hole.
And you found it. For two and a half hours, you said you were going to dribble it off the first
D and two and a half hours later you dribbled it off the first T.
So you tell me what part of your game it needs work.
So true.
I wish Lurch was here.
I would have been just roasting his big ass.
That's definitely true.
I mean, there's good and bad for me missing the trip.
I wish I was there so you could chirp my game and destroy it.
I mean, in Australia, almost shot even.
Yeah, I was, I've had some good rounds, but I still, there's plenty to work on.
I didn't know what a stronger grip was until I got chirped on social media.
The tip that kind of like came down the pipeline about a stronger grip.
I think it was like you and we were talking about it.
So I played in Florida with a couple buddies.
And one guy drove in late and he was actually a good player.
He played a Vanderbilt.
And he was like, yeah, I saw you pull a couple in the range.
All you need is just a stronger grip.
So then I was there for the 18 holes that I played with him and I was just squeezing the shit out of the club.
That's what I thought a stronger grip was.
And then not until I said and thank God for this podcast.
without it, I never would have figured out.
His hands are like blue and purple because he's gripping the club so hard.
Yeah, and then I got chirped on this podcast and then via the social about me not knowing what a stronger grip was.
And then I made that change, went down in Australia and played three fantastic rounds.
Yep.
So.
I gave Trent a stronger grip, and he didn't grip it hard.
Nope, you just got to look at those knuckles.
Two.
I can still.
Stronger means in this case.
I can still only see two knuckles.
I'm working on three, but two seems to be working out pretty well.
Two is plenty.
What other big takeaways did you have from our games?
We haven't had you on the show since we came down and played.
Do you think after watching us play that you have a better or worse chance now in the Five Iron Challenge?
Oh, I'm going to win that.
What do you think, Rick?
No doubt.
Do you think you have a better or worse chance after seeing him play in person?
So he made, he played.
It was tricky because.
the first hole that we played with the five iron
which is the hole that we put out the riggs verse
the 15th hole was a stunning revelation
when he hit a fucking mini flop shot five iron
from 110 to like 30 feet
that was
that was appalling for me
because I just thought if he can do that
he could hit any shot the only real mistake
was the next hole is the
220 yard or whatever it is part three
and he couldn't get it there
so he hit it short right and then the pin
was like on this fucking knob on the left and he just kind of chipped it back and forth a couple
of times he couldn't get it on the green with a five iron but then he pared the next i think two
holes so yeah you'll probably beat me that's really what i'm trying to probably what i'm trying
i remember draining that put on 18 from 15 feet to tie you and you just couldn't get over it
you made a 15 foot slider with a five iron for par yeah that's rattling you also the first
hole that you played with the fire like he almost made a 30-footer that was better than
any put that we attempted to make the whole time so yeah i mean i mean i
You have to be very confident.
And you're a great golfer.
You made $20 million.
You're a world-class shit-talker.
Like, it's really the strongest part of your game.
I don't want to pump your tires too much, but you just...
Like, I'm watching you shit-talk to Riggs, and I'd be like, I'd be falling apart like nobody's business.
It's frustrating because he just tells you, like, what's going to happen based on watching your game.
That's exactly right.
And then it happens, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Yeah, it's not even shit-dog.
I'm predicting.
I'll play with these people every Wednesday.
I'll watch the shit go down once a week.
Yeah, we're not that.
different, are we?
No.
Yeah, that sucks.
That does suck.
Except you carry around your little yardage book and scorecard in your back pocket, which
is clown show.
Your chirps just never stop, which is amazing.
That is like my favorite part of the game is having all that and feeling like you know
what you're doing when you clearly don't.
Every hole, he would lurch, he would whip this little thing out and start writing down the
scores.
And I said, but I have all the scores up here in my.
dome you don't have to worry about writing them down i can tell you exactly what you made on every
hole it's got to look primping proper and in the know out there you know i got to write it down
i can't just remember kids i got a question for you ready uh how close can you guess to the dollar
of exactly how much money career earnings on the pGA tour you have me yeah what do you think it is
uh it's it's somewhere right around 20 like trin said it was like right around 19
after the match play, so probably made another couple.
It might be just over 20.
If you want to give me that rounding error, I'll take it.
I mean, pretty best.
I mean, you know.
He knows.
You're tuned in.
It's $20,310,967.
And then probably another six or seven on the web.com tour?
So we're getting up to $21 million.
That's strong.
Yeah, but I had to give the government half.
True.
Well, we all do.
Well, it depends on you have to give them the more.
percentage than we do i would assume and big dewey big dewey gets a lot of that who all gets paid out by
you doy's got a fractured pelvis by the way i hadn't told you all this fractured pelvis how does that
happen so the big man took a fall in mowley up that mountain over there after it rained and then
complained about his hip hurting which he's had a total hip replacement so i'm like dear god i hope he
didn't mess that up and then he got x-rays this week and has a fractured pelvis oh shit damn so
Gary Woodland and I are playing together, and he slides down in the mud in Maui and falls.
And it's like the 10th time he's falling, so I don't even walk over there to help him.
And Gary, like, runs over there to help him.
And now Gary's trying to lift Dewey's big assholes.
And they just both start sliding down in the mud.
And Dewey still got the bag, like, twisted all around him on his bag.
Oh, so G. Dove had white pants on.
He got mud all over his shit.
Dewey's covered in mud.
We're on the fifth hole.
He's got to carry the rest of the day in it.
We caddied the rest of the day with a fractured pelvis.
He's caddied two more weeks with it.
He caddied Honolulu and Palm Springs with it.
That has got to be some kind of pain.
So there's no sort of recovery or like what do you do with a broken pelvis?
I don't know.
Wheelchair?
Yeah, he just said he's got a rehab, but they can see in the X-ray.
It's already healing.
So the more he moves around, the faster to heal.
And so he says he's carrying a pebble beach.
Is that what happens to Meredith in the office?
Does she like break her pelvis?
I don't know.
The best Dewey falling story is one year in Jacksonville, he slipped walking off a tee.
Same thing, right in the mud, fell on the bag, bag still on his shoulders.
He said, I never asked him if he was okay.
I just lifted the bag off of him and started wiping it down with the towel.
Never offered him the towel.
Or offered to pick him up.
I just love picturing you, like, Dewey, every time he falls now, you just keep moving.
You don't even check on it.
Just keep it moving.
Yeah.
It's the whole news, man.
Feels like Dewey need some cleats walking around.
What kind of shoes is that guy rocking?
Big guy falls hard, too.
He broke his pelvis.
Yeah, that's a fall.
Damn.
Jesus, that's a serious fall.
God.
We love Dewey.
Hope he's all right.
So when Gary Woodland went running a horse.
over to Dewey, did you ever think to go help as well, or you just continue on your merry way?
I weigh 160 pounds, and Dewey's 300. Do you think I can pick his big ass up?
Gary Woodland's help on her out.
Did you hit a good or a-
Goodwin was trying?
Did you hit a good or a bad shot before that?
I feel like if you hit a bad shot, there's no chance you're going over there and helping him.
I was up there by the green and two.
I ended up making Bernie right after that, so maybe he needs to fall more.
All right, well, I hope Dewey gets well.
Did you watch the President's Cup?
I watched about the last three holes every night.
What did you think?
I thought it was awesome.
The golf course looked really sweet.
Do you like those kinds of firm and fast courses?
Yeah, hell yeah.
You got to be precise.
Was there any watching it being like I should have been there, like over a certain guy?
I was playing a shark shoot out, drinking beer.
I wasn't into it like that.
Oh, yeah, your boy, the Seagull got a whole one.
Got an ace.
Sure did.
Hole in one and then eagleed the next hole part four by himself.
What was his tab like that night?
He was a wuss, man.
I don't even think he had to pay for anything.
Everybody kept bringing him drinks, which is odd.
That ain't how it works.
No.
Which is kind of messed up anyway.
If you make a haul-in-one, everybody else should pay you.
I've never understood that.
I agree.
I agree with kids.
You make a hole-in-one.
Some people, your buddy should come over here with everything you can drink and eat that you'd want in the world.
And it sounds like it might work out that way anyway.
Like he's saying, like he didn't pay for a drink that whole night.
And that's how it should be.
That's the way it should be.
Yeah.
You all right?
Me?
Yep.
I'm born all right.
Okay.
Were you getting out of the car or something?
What is happening?
No, I just had to roll down the window to spit out of dip.
That makes sense.
It makes a lot of sense.
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Are you got your eye on the Ryder Cup this year?
Nah, I would never look at that, Riggs.
What mean you never look at that?
I'm fucking with you, man.
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
I want to play on it for sure.
How important is that to you?
How, what's kid, like, are you, do you do any lobbying?
Is it politics?
What's the process like?
No lobbying.
That's just called Play Better.
Obviously, I have to earn my way.
I haven't got picked the last two years when I had a chance,
so I just need to earn my way.
What was the process like with the team last year?
What was your contact like with Captain Tiger?
He kept me in the loop.
He wanted no schedule what I was playing in, stuff like that.
Any requests out of him, or how's the whole thing work?
Does he touch base all the time?
or like randomly?
How does that go down?
Super randomly.
Just like a call from Tiger Woods out of nowhere?
Yeah.
Exactly how it goes.
He just says,
kids,
what are you going to play in soon?
And then you tell him,
and then he just goes,
Roger that.
I chirp him a little bit,
and then he chirps back,
and then we hang up.
Okay.
That seems normal.
Yeah.
You're going to be defending champ at the matchplay this year
Why are you so good at match play
Why can't you just be that good every week?
Because I'll have to beat one fucker, not 150 of them
Why do you like that so much better?
Like why?
Because I'm intimidating, man, 510, 160 pounds
Look at me
Yeah, but they probably know mentally that you're just torturing them
Like in your head
Like you're not talking shit probably to their face
But you're a world-class shit-talker.
So maybe they're like, oh, man, kids is probably just roasting me right now and it's that everything I'd do.
Look at them over there.
That's right.
There's plenty of games you can play with people in matchplay.
You got Dewey falling in the mud.
You got you staring at him.
Like, that's a mental horror show facing you.
It is.
Imagine how you're supposed to pay attention?
Yeah, imagine watching a guy fall down a hill and the other guy not helping it all.
They're like, what is that dynamic?
I'm playing against a ruthless monster.
Crucial moment in matchplay.
I should just push Dewey over.
tripping his caddy pushing him down the hill
just rolling around in the bunker
we have to ask you everybody's dying to know this year
how are you feeling going into the
major championship venues
I'm probably going to win Augusta
I like that
where's the next one at
Harding Park I'm playing there next week
I'll give you the ins and outs to the course
never been there
but it probably has
Poana and it's probably cold because it's in San Francisco
Okay, so it sounds positive
Wingfoot, I've played there a ton
But we'll see
We'll see how the USDA does again
Okay
And then I heard the British Open's the worst venue on the docket
So
Not real sure about that one
Who told you that?
A lot of the players
I guess the fairways are crowned in the middle
so you don't ever know which way of this walk when you walk down the fairway.
Borders rolls off, right or left.
That's about one and a half out of four.
Last year you were over four, so things are looking up for Kevin Kays with the majors.
Yeah, through the Masters win in there so I could give you all one out of eight
and I'd tell you I'm confident about.
I mean, if there was one to be confident, baby, that one.
Well, it's the easiest one to win.
Right, and you're like right there.
I mean, you play there often.
Your home is right there.
I mean, why not?
Why do you say it's easiest one to win?
There's only 65 guys.
Because the rest of them are too old?
Well, there's only 80 guys in the field, right?
Yeah, something like that.
Kid, did you see this, all like that Google Earth images that released of, like,
they're possibly extending 13 and all this stuff and how crazy we all go for it?
Yeah, you guys are a bunch of suckers.
That's fair.
What does that mean?
How about how brown it is in September?
Crazy.
Crazy.
Jarring is the worst.
I don't want to see it.
Have you ever walked the course when it's been like that?
No.
But that's how it has to look.
It's just like mind-blowing that.
In November, it better be brown in September.
Do they do that with other courses?
They let a brown out like that?
Well, the course right next to it was a Gus of Country Club.
I know.
I just wonder if that's like a standard of other courses or it's just.
Well, Sage Valley was brown two months before you played it.
Wow.
That's crazy to me because the pictures I saw of you guys playing it was beautifully green.
Yeah.
That's how overseeing works.
Oh.
How did you like that?
Mr.
Green's over here.
Can we put out on?
It's like you guys have never heard of like a guy.
I mean,
before like the pro golf or kids was on the phone,
last week we were going crazy about being brown.
So it's like we all didn't know what the fuck was going on.
Yeah.
Kids,
he had no idea what overseeding was an hour ago.
That's because Riggs texts me about 20 times asking me questions about it.
None of y'all do.
Exactly.
And I got that.
He's like, why is it so brown?
Like, it has to be brown rigs.
I have to put rye down for overseed,
and overseed likes to grow in cold, wet conditions.
I don't want to look too far ahead,
but Tiger putting that green jacket on Kevin Kisner
would make this podcast explode.
Not only, like, would people be very interested
to what we were going to say,
but also I think our heads would explode.
I'll take that green jacket from any fucker
that wants to hand it to me.
Good point. Good point.
You think they're going to do anything to 13 kids?
I'm sure they'll lengthen it at some point.
I've never seen them do a renovation and make one shorter.
That's fair.
That'd be nice if they did.
But they put a road in back there, so they can't go too far.
Right.
Wingfoot Society are famous.
Ain't no hobby fellows, isn't it?
I'm sure it is.
Let's got to bring back some confidence.
What, my 17 drink birdie?
on a 240-yard part three.
Yep, that one.
That's exactly right.
I played the U.S. Amateur at Wingfoot.
Long time ago.
How'd you do?
I made a match play and then lost somewhere along the way.
Not very good.
Probably lost in the second round or third round.
All right.
I don't want to peek too soon, you know.
We're not playing for any money in that thing.
Right.
I mean, you don't care about pride.
You just want the money.
Have you paid me yet for me whooping your ass five
for the i don't think you ever gave me any money of course i paid you because we we doubled it
hundred bucks for the five iron challenge and i won that one one up oh god yeah you walked into that
one buddy when are we going to do the five iron challenge i mean we can do it whenever except not next
week because we got to go to the super bowl all week we'll keep we'll let you know we'll we'll we'll
put it some dates out there and then we'll do it what's your schedule talk us through your
your golf schedule when we can't we do it i'm playing
Pebble,
Mexico,
Bay Hill, Tampa,
players,
Austin,
Masters, Heritage, New Orleans.
Okay,
Jake,
write that stuff down
and try to find
a time
when you're not playing
professional golf
to play me
with just a fire-hour.
Exactly.
That shouldn't take
better like an hour.
But Jake will probably
screw up to filming
and let to reshoot
and all that shit.
shots fired at the producer.
He's trying to turn his mic on.
Is your mic on?
He's frantically.
This is bullshit.
Kevin.
There we go.
He's got a mic.
Hi, bad tweets.
How's it going?
Bad tweets.
You think a five-star transfer from Vanderbilt's going to take Georgia to the
Promise Land?
Probably lose to Alabama in the Scy Championship.
Who's the five-star from Vanderbilt?
You got some fifth-year guide transfer, not five-star.
Fifth-year grad transfer from Vanderbilt's going to be a quarterback.
Well, you're already wrong because he came from Wake Forest.
Wake Forest. Same colors.
You said Vanderbilt.
Obscure for football.
You've got to have a college right.
You said the Vanderbilt golfer earlier.
That's why I was in the head, same colors.
Don't start blaming other people for your mistake.
So if you're going to come firing at me with football, brain, facts.
Georgia just won that one real quick.
Another tough loss for Bama this year.
Yikes.
Yikes.
We go to Tuscaloosa the third game of the year.
We'll find out what he's made of.
I'll be there.
Me too.
Actually, I think it's Riter Cut Week, so hopefully not.
Then I probably won't be.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Sorry, Jake.
Kiss.
What?
Just the biggest F you before the question starts.
So I got a question, when Tiger calls you, do you bring this level of energy as well?
Oh, yeah.
I'm 100 out of time, Lurch.
I was going to say, I think he's, Kiz is a guy who's like this.
He's through and through.
Yeah, he's as genuine as it gets.
Whose name pops up on that phone changes nothing.
No.
Riggs.
No.
Tiger, doesn't matter.
Lert.
Same combo.
This doesn't pick up.
Yeah.
Same combo.
Hey, rate, our performance at the Foundation, the Kisner Foundation event.
Dude, I don't even remember half that weekend.
Oh, that's, yeah, that's right on your own performance.
It sounded like it went pretty well.
It was very fun time, actually.
It was, you know, I like Brownie.
We had never met Brownie before.
He's a fucking fantastic, dude.
Yep.
Dewey didn't fall, I don't think.
No, Dewey grabbed the camera at that one point.
We got Dewey Cam again, which is one of my.
my favorite parts of our entire world.
He just grabs the camera and he goes crazy.
That was the first time I'd ever been exposed to Lee Bryce music.
And I enjoyed that immensely.
I've been listening to it ever since we were there.
Lee Bryce is a fantastic human being.
Yeah, he's fun.
He rocked a bunch of barstool gear at that LPGA.
Was it like the Diamond's Legends tournament or whatever that was last week?
Yeah.
He had his caddy or his tour manager asked me to send him out a bunch of stuff.
He was rocking it all on the golf course.
Then he actually texted me.
he's like reach out to Lee personally he wants to thank you so I was like hi Lee this is
Frankie and he's like man I was like I don't know what the fuck I was like I was told to text
you he's like man that was the best stuff you ever sent us like anytime you need anything in
my industry whatever like any guy any concert anything you want to do any any golf event
anything you want to go to you let me know I was like holy shit sounds like you got the hookup
I mean that's just like that's like that vibe though country star like right where you're from
even like laid back golfer life like you guys are just all
whatever you can do for other people it's like that it's not how it is in the northeast
no very different long island ain't like that lesson yeah yeah long island's quite different
from that kid it's like how can i get through my day without my shit falling apart
that's what's going on how many how many drinks do you think you had rigs before we had to
start working on that saturday you know the big
problem was they gave you that huge goblet of a
transfusion in the fucking
locker room. Remember that thing?
That thing is bigger than my head.
I saw you walking around with a
goblet of transfusion and at some
point in the next hour I saw you walking around
naked and then I saw you like getting
in the locker room. I said
you just go fucking move in here and you're like
yeah dude I don't have to leave this place.
Well, first of all, Sage
Valley is as
pristine and nice
and elite as it gets
and the locker room, the showers just like are part of the bar.
So here you are hosting this event where there's just Lee Bryce and Tyler Farr and you
and all these other people at drinking.
And I was like, well, I still need to shower.
So I went and shower and I came walking back just in a towel.
Everyone's at the bar.
And I was just naked basically in front of everyone.
But I didn't think anybody cared because we all had goblets of transfusion.
Nobody cared.
Trust me.
I think we were probably pretty toasted.
At one point we were up on stage together late,
late introducing the musicians,
and I don't,
I remember that only from the footage,
not from like my actual vantage point.
At that point, I'm so over-talking,
I just want to get the partying.
You're pretty good at that, MC, and drunk.
Yeah, I had lots of practice.
Clearly.
You were supposed to take over most of it.
Yeah, you realize that you were.
wouldn't let anybody take anything over once you got to a certain point in the night.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
Hey, so I got a quick question about distance.
They're supposed to release this distance report February 4th.
Do you hope that they dial anything back distance-wise?
Yeah, if they dial all the courses back.
So you think it would help you if they dial the ball back and then also dial the courses back?
Any more, dude.
I've been playing for 14 years.
Well, they're not going to do anything.
It's just too much in the industry.
You cost people millions of dollars by changing all this shit.
Kevin Kisner prediction, nothing changes when it comes to the distance.
I don't think they're going to see anything drastic in the report anyway.
Yeah.
That makes sense that you're not that concerned about it.
You've been out there, made a bunch of money.
You can hack it out there, even regardless if they've changed nothing at all.
You still got to get the ball on the whole, Trent.
Don't I know it?
It's just easier from closer to the green.
be going to get in the ball in the hole. We've had a debate
on this. I don't know if we've ever asked you this. You think Rory
Macarroy could beat me in a golf match
blindfolded? No.
Thank you.
Well, it depends on how much he has. Like, if I was
there to line him up and put his club down for him
and line up his butt, so he would destroy you. But if he just had to
walk around. No, no, no. Thank you. He roped up.
He wrote a joke. He wrote
a joke. Jab, jab, jab.
Well, listen to me.
Take this. Fine. You're covered uppercut. He brought you in and
held you close and were like, you could beat him.
And then when we gave out the actual parameters of what it would be, he was like, it's over with this one too.
But kids, like, I'm talking he can't take the fucking blindfold off at all.
He can't even, like, get a look at on the T.
Like, you can't take it off.
Somebody going to tell him where to line up?
Sure.
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, he'll destroy you.
How is he making five foot putts and, like, these seven foot sliders?
I know you're lining him up, but isn't that at some point?
Like, wouldn't he just make, like, sevens and eights, like, every single hole?
Like, I will bet you right now if you go put me on a five-footer and line my putter up for me and blindfold me,
I'll make 60% of them.
I can't make 10% of those with full eyes.
60%?
That's another thing we'll have to do.
But what if he finds himself in a bunker?
Like, I mean, there's got to be something that, like, visually he needs.
I know it, like...
You shoot 90, dude.
I know.
I know.
You know how hard it is.
Rory can't shoot 90 blindfolded.
I just, I mean, you know...
What do you think he shoots blindfolded?
That's crazy to say you take away his eyesight.
and all of a sudden he's just like a little bit worse.
Like I just think that's a little bit.
I mean, if he goes out there and shoots 81, that's substantially worse than where you.
What do you?
That would be a phenomenal.
You think he breaks 80?
Jesus.
No, I think that.
I line him up and put the club behind the ball.
Kids, what do you shoot blindfolded?
I don't have any idea.
But I can put it blindfolded.
I thought with my eyes closed all the time.
But Frankie, what you're saying is like you take away his eyesight, something has to be
lacking.
and what would be lacking, but if Kisner was behind him, lining him up, telling him what the putts were,
then it's you have your eyesight back essential.
I know, I just still, like, can't picture, I don't know, I just can't picture it.
Like, he hits a great shot, and it's in a green side bunker up against a lip.
I just don't know how, like, lining someone up where, like, it's just, there's so many situations
in which, like, it's above your feet, below your feet.
Like, he could be blading balls all day long in those situations.
Like, you line someone up, like, you got to be able to see it.
you got to be able to see it, kids
you got to see the ball
No chance
If you were in a box
I said
Your club is two inches behind the ball
And your ball is plugged
And you only have to carry it three yards
He would hit it out on the green every time
Oh man, I want to do it so bad
I want to do it so bad
God I've been fighting this fight
Seemingly alone for months
Kids
Now if you just made him randomly find the ball
And guess what club he was hitting
And how far he had
You would destroy him
Or nobody ever know what to do
never find the hole.
He'd never find the golf ball.
If he found one golf ball,
he'd be the most impressive thing in all sports.
He might be able to find his drive.
If he found one golf ball,
he'd do the most impressive feat in all of sports.
Imagine him Frank.
He's over there with like the three-minute clock.
Like, lost ball.
Let's go right.
Back to the tee.
Now you've got to find the team, big man.
Good luck.
He just hits the ball.
You're always five feet from it.
He starts sprinting.
He just runs into a lake or something.
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
What the fuck?
Well, I know I don't know much, but I disagree.
And I know that that doesn't mean anything.
But I don't know.
I'm going to stand on that.
I just don't think.
I got to, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Here's another question for you, another hypothetical.
Anybody in this room, we would one putt everything.
We just had to get it on the green.
Do you think anybody in this room from what you've seen
could be a professional golfer?
No.
That's crazy.
Everything's a one putt up.
Everything's a one putt.
If you just get it somewhere on the dance floor, you won putt.
No.
Not even that's what I said too.
No.
You would never make a cut.
You just have to, like, you get the ball in the hole, or a ball in the green and three on par four, you're a mega four.
Par five, you get it on three, you make a birdie.
Yeah, no, we get it.
I'm with Lurch here.
I mean, how often do we, I mean, average golfers, especially in here, do we shoot like
I think I could.
I could.
And I three putt, two putt every single.
I think I'd be on the bottom of the tour.
A lot of times we do it from like 6,400 yards.
They're playing for like 7,400 yards.
I think I'd be on the bottom of the tour, but I think there's a chance I could make a life for myself.
No chance.
18 putts around.
18 puts.
That's it.
That's all you take.
Say again, kids?
What about the holes you hit out of bounds and you've won put for six?
Well, then we're fucked.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're going to do that every round.
I mean, Frankie would have made an eight instead of a nine on the first toll at Palmetta.
True.
He's out of the tournament right there.
Might as well just get in your fucking car.
It's a good point.
Oh, man.
That was my take, too.
I thought no chance.
That's crazy because, like, that is such an unachievable thing to do for us in golf,
and that means we're not even – like, I won't even two-putt every hole in a round for the rest of my life.
Right. I would say my average putt around is like 2.6.
And to say that if I won put every single hole for the rest of my life,
I wouldn't even be close to making a cut in a professional tournament
where guys are shooting like 75-76s.
I mean, it's crazy.
Crazy.
Like not every guy shoots under par.
This doesn't see me play yet, so I'm still going to hold on to the yes portion of that.
But he's right.
I wouldn't make an 8 instead of a 9.
I'd make a 7 instead of 8.
Right.
Yeah, that's true.
And when you shot a 76, large at Barnbougal,
you would have still had, what, a triple and a double,
even with the one putt thing.
Yeah, but I would have made a ton more birdies.
All the two putts would just be one putts.
But you made a lot of one-pots.
So I shot a 76.
Yeah.
And I would have...
How many one-putts?
Yeah, I wonder how many one-putts you had, I don't know.
Probably four.
Four, five?
I think you had way more than that.
I think I had five birdies.
So I think he was pretty dialed then.
He was five birds.
He never got up and down once.
You never got up and down.
Every time you, like...
Oh, true, yeah.
Every time you got up and down, it was a one-old.
Putt every time you know. But still, so even if I shot, even if I shot made 11 one putts, which
there's no way I made 11 one putts, that's still seven strokes I'm shaving off.
Right. So now you're, that's the best round you, that's like one of the best rounds you've
ever played. And that course was probably a thousand yards shorter than the courses they play.
Be hard. And you've got to do it the next day and the next day and the next day. And then you get
to get to get in your airplane and you fly out of the next location and you get to go do it all over again.
I'm as deflated as I've ever been.
And I'm off the tour.
Okay.
Kids, how is Hawaii lugging around the family?
We made it.
We were on the road from December 26th until January 20th.
As a squad of four?
Squad of four.
And you made $400,000.
Just say not the worst situations.
Flying in Hawaii, going all those places.
Half a mill.
It's great.
How nice is the...
Oh, damn, that traveling's hard.
Yeah.
Especially with a broken pelvis.
Yeah.
R-I-P. Dewey.
Yeah, that stinks.
How nice is the Hawaii trip?
How, like, is it...
You remember Dewey won...
We won a match for a do we had a broken toe.
It's good luck.
Him having a broken body part is good luck.
What was wrong with that guy?
You know, fell at the British Open.
No, he didn't fall there.
He tore his...
calf muscle.
He just walked too hard?
Like, what do you mean he didn't fall?
You're going to be in Augusta this year,
and you're going to hear like a door close on his finger or something.
He's going to be like, God damn!
In the back, I'm like, we're winning this week.
That's it.
Here we go.
Here we go.
You just need, like, one thing to break.
He's like pushing him downstairs and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm going to do at the matchplay this year.
As soon as I'm like two down with three to play,
I'm just push him down the fair way and then keep walking.
And my playing partner is going to try to help him up and tweak his
back out yeah exactly
fuck kids
get your guy up
he's just like halfway down the fairway
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what do you mean a meeting
what you got a fucking briefcase
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yeah
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We don't
Yeah
That would be great
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We'll drop our own
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He just Seasons assist us for no reason
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Yeah let this podcast breathe
For a couple days
So we get the downloads
And then cease and assist us for this podcast
All right, I'll cease and assist you after the podcast.
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He's a big of a storyline guy in the world.
I love it.
You're going to send it to Erica or Dave or who you want me to send it to?
Yeah, Dave and Erica.
He sits down his lawyers office right now.
I'm sure he wouldn't wild his fucking handle of that.
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Yeah.
Those are the same guys that gave him.
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I think the Tiger one's a good one.
We have to, we can't, you're mad that we keep asking you about Tiger.
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Well, I thought we, I've seen this.
I've seen this moment.
You got intense deja vu.
The worst ever.
What do you mean you've seen this moment?
I saw that moment.
I saw, I've heard you say the water thing.
I've never,
I've never said the underwater.
I've never said the underwater.
I'm not kidding, bro.
I'm not kidding.
Like he's underwater.
And then I heard him talking off air.
I'm like, oh my God, he's going to keep talking.
Riggs is going to say, I thought we were recording.
He's going to say he stopped.
I'm not kidding.
Dude, you're a lunatic.
No, but have you guys never had deja vu?
I've had deja vu.
This is the worst I've ever had.
Come on.
Never where I knew what somebody was going to say before they said it.
I've been in that moment.
I was in certain situations where I'm like I've seen all this before, but I'd never to the point where like...
I was guessing it was coming next.
Unless like Frankie talks about the islanders.
Do you need to take something?
Dude, I was fucked.
You know what I've read videos on it where, um, I mean, my God.
That deja vu like took like 15% of it.
Tell me about reading them videos.
On air.
Just the way he buried his phone.
forehead into the mic.
Tell me more.
I read videos on it and just boom.
I watched this video on it that says that there's a part of your brain that like
there's multiple parts of your brain, obviously, one being like the present, one being
the past.
And apparently with deja vu, it like hits the past.
So like what's happening right now hits like the past part of your brain.
So it feels like every moment that you're living in you've already experienced.
You know what I mean?
Yes.
I get your logic.
Yeah.
That's like what this is trying to explain deja vu.
It's like it's entering the, oh, I've been here before part of your brain.
Meanwhile, you're literally living in it right now.
So like I genuinely thought I had been there before.
It's one of the strangest feelings that human can have.
When it only happens like, I don't know, maybe it happens more to other people.
Have you had it that severe?
Sorry.
No.
No.
Okay.
So my brain right now thinks that that happened like a month ago.
Like I'm like, oh my God, we've done that before.
And that's fucked.
I've just never been that deep in deja vu if there's levels of it.
I was that.
I was that deep.
Yeah, mine is more, it's foggier.
It's kind of like, this seems all familiar.
And then people will say things.
I was like, I kind of figured he was going to say that.
At the beginning of this deja vu talk recorded or no?
Because, like, there was, no.
So people don't even know what we're talking about right now.
No, we kind of gave him that you had, like, deja vu.
No, we restarted.
But they don't know what, yeah, I guess they don't know what you had deja vu about.
No, they don't.
That part is just deleted from.
So Kisner's conversation ended.
He hung up.
And then we started talking about him.
Lurch said that, you know, I said that his, the conversation with
kids is always so unique and weird it's like uh there's a weird cadence to it like it's like there's like
there's like 10 seconds of silence and then it's just like yeah and then like we like giggle and then it's
a very unique conversation very unique and then lurch was like it feels like he's coming up for
for for air underwater or something like that and then at that moment when he said that something
happened in my brain where i'm like oh my god we've had this conversation before i didn't know if it was
the last time we took the kids and then i looked at jake he was talking off air behind the mic
the most confusing podcast ever.
So they should listen to this and then read whatever 30 seconds.
Oh, that stuff wasn't on though.
Right.
I know.
Exactly.
But then to get the jokes after.
Oh, I got you.
You know what I mean?
Whatever.
My brain's just fucking mashed potatoes, bro.
So then what happened was you essentially were like, oh, guessing what we were going to say.
I was so alert.
I was looking at that Jake.
And then I said, I looked at Riggs to be because he about to tell him that he thought that we were fucking recording right now.
And then he said, I thought we were recording right now.
And then we weren't.
I was like, I've been here before.
for. Dude, deja vu is so fucked.
It is. It is. To the point where I actually, like, I'm going to have to look back to the
last time we talked to kids. Like, I think this exact conversation happened.
I, I would bet it's relatively similar.
Because otherwise, why would you, where would that come? I don't know.
Is there a term, and maybe this is just a state of confusion? But like, when you have a
dream and then you're actually in reality and you're like, did that happen before? No,
that was just my dream? Is that just a state of confusion?
Right. I don't know. Is that what, is there a term for that?
You're saying you have. Lucid dreaming means that you're, you're saying you have.
Dreaming means that you're like awake in the dream.
You are actually able to take the memories from the dream and bring them into reality.
So like you'd be like the next day you wake up, you're like, oh man, like I remember flying
around Yankee Stadium, whatever.
Like it's not like, you can actually do, like, have you ever been in a dream where you feel
like you can do things?
Yes, totally.
Those are the best dreams in the world.
You can make decisions.
I never want to get up from those dreams.
Right.
And that's, sometimes you're terrifying, but sometimes they're a ton of thought.
This is why, you want to talk about dreams.
Sometimes it's like most epic story of all time.
It's like, who can explain dreams?
This is why, you know, whatever.
Let's not get.
No, go on.
I don't know.
We always talk about, like, you was talking about, like, you die and then you're dead, right?
And, like, we talk about, like, there's just a science to everything.
I'm not going to get too deep into this conversation, but, like, I've always had this struggle as I grow up where it's like, what happens after you die.
And it's all going to happen to us.
And it's all going to happen to us.
And it's probably just, like, doesn't want to have a conversation about this.
I don't know why I picked you out, but I just feel like it makes your palm sweaty.
Yeah, I kind of does.
Okay.
So, but, like, dreaming, I feel like, can't be scientifically described, like, your brain, your mind.
your mind, these things that, what, what, you're making a face?
There's a chemical in your brain that creates dreams.
Then you smoke DMT.
That's, yeah, the smoking, whatever.
This guy who listens to Joe Rowan.
He has literally wearing a dead-in-company shirt.
Yeah.
So take that with a grain and salt.
And he's also said before, how would you know that I smoke pot?
Right.
And my point being that, like, you go into another world in your brain.
You have mind, you have thoughts.
Like, do ants and all these other animals?
Do they have, like, thoughts and dreams?
And, like, are they, like, you know what I mean?
The ants sleep?
I'm just saying other things like do birds or birds have to sleep.
They work hard, man.
You tell me they can just work that hard without ever sleep.
One time in grade school, my buddy went on vacation.
It was one of those things where he had to like take care of a frog or whatever.
But first it was a tadpole.
And he gave it to me.
And I had to take care of this thing for like two weeks or something like that.
He definitely died.
And anyways, one morning I'd go check on the tadpole or whatever.
And the thing was just dead turned over.
but I yelled up, I didn't know.
I yelled up with my mom.
I was like, mom, she'll never forget this.
I was like, mom, she's like, what?
I was like, the tent pulls sleep?
No, dead.
Those things don't dream.
Yeah, it's just like, and I haven't smoked any.
I don't smoke weed, so if anyone listen to this is probably like Frankie's so high right now.
I'm just not.
It's just like a weird feel, you know, it's like you go into another world.
How do you explain that?
I love dreams.
Are you a dream fan or a dream?
I like dreams, but they confuse me.
And they also confuse me where people are like, they just confuse me.
They just, like, the idea of them confuses me that, like, I can be in another world mentally.
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I don't get much sleep.
Oh, man.
They go off nothing.
Crazy.
16 minutes a day.
They're running on fumes.
Pretty good.
And you also think like these people in their dreams that see people, right?
You see, oh, I saw grandma in my sleep.
Was that like people, are you confusing, like being in a dream?
Like, all these things like are always in my mind.
Wait, is grandma dead in real life?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
It's still just like a mental image, though.
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
Explain.
But you think you're going to.
No.
But just saying it's a mental image isn't right because it's like you, you experience it like it's,
like it's real.
Right.
That's the weirdest part for me.
Like,
sometimes I'll wake up,
Mick.
I was just playing for the Yankees in my dream.
Like,
I'm in my bed.
Hannah,
why'd you wake me?
Like,
I was just right next to Derek Cheater's stopping on.
Isn't that a weird that you can consciously,
like,
be in that moment?
It's fucking weird.
It's always weird, too,
because like if you play for the Yankees in the dream,
like you could be playing with like,
Derek Cheater,
Mickey Mantle and all these guys.
And it makes perfect sense.
Or you never,
like,
we've talked about this with the tiger thing.
The guy can never tee out,
like,
he can never tee the ball, like when he's playing in front of Tiger.
Like, you play for the Yankees, but you can never quite get up to bat.
Like something happens.
Like your glove isn't like, your batting glove won't like Velcro and you're like in the locker room.
And they're like, Frankie, you're up.
It's happened to me with the Islanders.
I've had an Islander's dream where they've invited me to come play for the team and I can't get my skates on.
Well, so somebody who would break that down.
I just can't get my skates on.
In the locker room, I see it.
It looks like the Islanders locker room.
And I'm like in there.
Like, all right, let's go.
Like, I'm in the lot.
All the guys in it.
They all go out into the ice.
I think if a sleep therapist or doctor listen to this, they would think you have a real problem.
Like there's something about not being ready.
No, but I think that's very common.
I talked about my recurring dream is that I'm playing in the Masters and I can't get the ball to stay on the first tee.
Right.
Or the minute I go to pull the club back like a fucking lightning strikes the hut behind me and there's a big delay in play or like a cart comes through and there's a huge stoppage.
Like I can never get off the first tee.
never we had the guy that that wrote in the email about his recurring golf dream is like tiger woods
is always like around meets his family but he never gets to meet him tiger like comes to his
his family barbecue and he's like in the kitchen fucking preparing for dinner and then he when he goes
out tiger just laughed and it's like he never gets to me so my question to the listeners because we
have a lot of smart listeners that know a lot of things is like explain to me what happens when you
like when something snaps in your dream and you are now like i'm dreaming how does that happen
Good question
You know
Like what
Scientifically
What happens in your brain
That allows you to like
And you could feel shit
Like I could feel
You could feel things
You know what I mean
Like I'm like lacing up my fucking skates
I could feel the fucking laces
And the shoes
It's fucking weird man
Totally
Like it happened to me recently
And I'm like
That was weird
Dreams are fucking weird
Yeah
Do you remember your dreams
Only when it happens
Like once every like couple months
I'll be like wow
Yeah not always
Yeah, last night.
Do you remember last night what you dreamed about?
No.
No idea.
No idea.
No.
But I mean, you dream for like hours and hours.
You're asleep for it.
You're asleep for so many hours.
And you're doing something.
You're doing something in your brain.
Your brain's going somewhere.
Isn't that crazy?
Your body's whole shut off, but your brain is just cooking.
I always think it's so weird that our heart just beats all the time.
It's crazy.
Did you do a, uh, uh, sorry to do what Jeff?
Lowering the bar with like a hundred milligram.
That's what it seems like.
Dude, your heart just beats all the time.
And the time it stops for one second, you did.
Think about sleepwalking, though.
Like, if you keep doing like another level, I sleepwalk.
Bro, but there are people that really sleepwalk.
Oh, you really sleepwalk.
You get in, like, your car and shit, you drive to 7-Eleven?
Like, people are fucking...
Dude, I was at a buddy's place in Maine.
We all went out together.
Had a bunch of drinks.
Had a bunch of drinks.
I came back to the place.
I kind of, like, remember, like, you know, pass it out on the couch or whatever.
and then I don't know what the hell happened.
We were going fishing at like 5 a.m. the next morning.
Anyways, I pass out.
Next thing I know, a cabby pulls over.
And he's like, hey, sir, like, do you need any help?
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm fine.
All my buddies are right behind me.
And he's like, no, no, no, like nobody's behind you.
Like, do you need help?
And then I looked.
And then I remember just being an amazing state of confusion.
And I was like, how the hell did I get here?
He picks me up.
He picks me up.
I get, I tap my pockets.
Totally.
We're just in like Portland, Maine.
I tap my pockets.
I've got no wallet, no cell phone.
And he's like, you know, like, where are you going?
Like, what's going on?
And I was like, so I don't have anything to pay you or anything like that.
And thank God in that moment.
This is one of the best moments.
I remembered his address.
11 Winter Street or whatever it was.
Boom.
I gave it to him.
It was like three blocks away.
the cabbie drove me to the place
The front door was wide open
Did you tell him when you were in the car
Like I think I was sleeping?
No, no, no.
I was in a complete state of just like
Panic, fright, confusion.
Holy shit.
Didn't do anything.
You got to bolt your doors.
Oh my God.
So then I get it.
You just to sleep in a sleeping bag.
You're like Mike Barbiglia.
Correct.
Exactly.
We walk through a fucking second floor window on in a hotel.
So I probably get home at like 4.15.
We're going fishing the next morning at like 5 a.m.
So I try to lie down and like go back to bed.
Buddy comes over like breakfast sandwiches, beers, the whole thing.
We start loading up the car, get to the boat.
And I'm not saying a word.
And they're all like, you know, Seth, like, what's up?
Like, what's going on?
Like, you look like you saw a ghost.
And then I wait until we're kind of putzing out in the river.
And I'm like, boys, I got something to sit.
I had a doozy last night.
Yeah.
And they looked at me like I had ten heads and then I'm a crazy person.
And now when I go back to Maine or my buddy, this kid, Miller, he bought a houseboat for the summer.
really sweet, his mom would let me stay on the houseboat of fear that I would just
drown walk off the houseboat and go swimming.
Yeah, or just go right down to the bottom like a rock.
Totally.
Anything could happen.
It scares me.
Has it happened to you?
Has it happened since?
I've slept walked before, for sure.
It usually involves.
It usually involves like drinking or something like that.
If you think I'm not bolting my door shut down in our apartment, imagine this big lurch comes into
my room, it's fucking.
10, 15 times.
What's the size behind that?
I don't know.
I'd love to know that.
You're not conscious, but you're like walking down.
Like, you're literally using your vision to walk down the walkway.
Alcohol is involved.
Alcohol is involved.
Yeah.
It's not always, but 90% of the time like that.
In that case, it's evolved.
So is it being blackout or is actually sleepwalking?
No, it's like when basically you're like, what is it?
Your brain almost like shuts down, but like your body still is away.
I mean, that's a blackout.
Or reverse or whatever.
Somebody explained it to me one time with drinking and I forget, but it's happened.
I mean, one time it was when we were living in Boston, I just walked into my buddy's room.
We were just standing over.
Oh, my God.
She was possessed.
Yeah.
Damn.
That's my biggest fear.
Welcome to the world of lurch.
Man, it's not that easy.
I woke up, I thought that big fucking body over me.
I started screaming like a little girl.
Thank God for that cabby, though.
I still think about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's like your guardian angel.
Totally.
He looked at me and was like, sir, there's nobody behind you.
And I, like, looked down the street.
And when I looked back in him, I was like, oh, my God.
That could have been anyone picking you out.
I was three blocks away.
Or you could have just kept, if he didn't stop you, you could have kept walking.
Oh, yeah, I would have kept going.
You guys could just get hit by a car.
It was like a four-minute drive back to his play.
Holy shit.
I mean, I was far away.
And you tried so hard to remember what happened.
Couldn't remember anything.
Did you put your shoes on?
No, I think I had shoes on, but I honestly, I might have just passed out my shoes.
I can't remember that.
I just remember sitting in the cab, and I was in the backseat, and I was just tapping my thighs being like, I've got no self, but I got no wallet.
I have no idea.
why I'm here.
I have no idea how I got here.
The last thing I remember is walking down that street with my buddies.
Now there's no buddies.
Then I go back to his place and the door is just wide open and everybody's passed out.
And actually the next morning, I was in such a state of frantic that my buddy was like,
hey, can you charge my phone?
I untook the charger out of his phone.
I was going to give his phone back to him and drop the charger.
But I did the reverse and I just dropped his phone right on the floor, screen smash,
and I gave him the charger.
And then it'll be another couple of cards.
You are all sorts of messed up.
So don't sleep while, kids.
Twisted.
That's a golf podcast.
You know?
Yeah.
Totally.
It really is.
Yeah, the last 10, 50 minutes.
Boy, that's a golf podcast.
I'm ordering a straight jacket for you to sleep into the apartment.
No wonder we can't break 80.
Yeah.
Got that shit going off.
We got, yeah.
Oh, man.
Bro, when I'm standing over a ball, I'm literally thinking about how my heart's still beaten.
I'm like, you know, Kevin Kinsner's out there winning match play tournaments.
I'm like, boy, oh, boy.
He's looking at the dimple on the ball.
You're over.
on some.
Boy, this thing's still beating, isn't it?
You're over the ball, like, can you believe this shit?
Can you believe this shit still pumping?
Also, you're like, after all these years?
How tired's that they got to be?
You ever think about how you have to breathe, too?
Like, you ever think about when you're, you ever think about breathing?
That's a high thought.
No, because I'm worried I'll stop breathing.
Woof, totally.
No, that's something wrong with me, man.
We'll find out soon.
Well documented.
Yeah.
Last thing, Bryce and Duchampo commented on our Instagram.
He's, you know, not really happy with the way that we portrayed the book.
Kevka versus Brycey Nishianboe thing.
I don't really know what to say.
That's what we do.
We kind of joke around.
Yeah, it was kind of soft.
I was going to call him Mr. Softie,
but we've gone back and forth with Bryson,
and I feel like this is just a overwhelmed.
This is just the arc of it, right?
Like, it's going to be ups and downs and ups and downs.
I think he went a little bit too far with this one,
responding to everyone's messages.
I mean, people were fucking just writing like,
oh, Brooks beat you, and he'll be like, no, they didn't.
Like, he's, like, responding to anyone.
And at that level, it's like, dude,
these people do not matter on the,
Instagram. Us talking about it, like, shouldn't matter to you. It's like, it's just a story.
We have to talk about Brooks beat you in a debate. Like, that's just, you talked about abs. He talked
about championship major trophies. It's a story on. We are fucking a barstool podcast that talks about
stuff like that. We're not going to talk about the X's and Nose. It's what we pride ourselves on.
If there's going to be a beef on Twitch between two of the top golfers in the world, like we're going
to talk about it. And we can't always be on your side, Bryce. And it's just not the way the world
Yeah, I agree with Frankie in that if it wasn't this, it was going to be something else that we said about Bryson down the line because he makes headlines.
He does interesting things.
We're going to comment on them.
We're not always going to be on his side.
So if it wasn't, you know, abdominal muscles leading down the road to, you know, me saying that it's better to fill trophies than it is to have good abs.
It was going to be something else.
So people rip on their friends.
Yeah.
Again, it was on a quote card.
And that sort of takes out of context in terms of like we're always pretty much 99.
percent of the time joking around about everything.
If you go back and look at this one, we're literally talking about a beef that started
because he made fun of Brooks Kepka's abs on Twitch.
And then it sort of rolled out all the way to Brooks Kepka, Duncan on him with his response.
And even Bryson has said about, because people ask him about, oh, what happened between you and
Brooks?
What's that all about?
Bryson's like, it's all in good fun.
You know, we're just busting each other's balls.
I know he's mad about us saying, you know, not taking into account his victories on the
PJ tour on the European tour.
But we were specifically talking about major championships.
Brooks sort of set the tone with his tweet and we followed suit.
So bottom line, I still like Bryson.
I think we all still do.
It's just like one of these things where it was going to be something and it just happened to be
abdominal muscles that sort of broke our relationship for the time being.
Yeah, and I think you guys nailed that.
And a lot of people did message me even today and they were like, what did Bryson do?
And just to put it out very cleanly and simply, we put up an Instagram post and says,
Trent on Brooks versus Bryson and Trent's comment was it doesn't matter what your abs look
like if you can fill a trophy case that's what matters. That's all said and it's a picture
of Brooks's trophy case and whatever. Bryson then comments on our Instagram and says
seven tour wins isn't terrible for three years dot dot dot thanks for short changing me going to be
tough to get me on the pot anymore just like where is that coming from? Why is there so much
animosity there? Why are you commenting on an Instagram post? We didn't like tag like we didn't tag them
You know what I mean?
Like, it was just, we're just commenting on a beef.
You can't start a beef without having people comment on it.
And like I said before, we're not always going to be in your corner.
We didn't even start in your corner.
You won us over by being a cool dude.
So just like continue to be that.
Don't.
But it may be his true colors coming out where it's like he can't hold back.
In those seven tour wins, he counted a corn fairy tour win.
And again, we were talking specifically about majors because that's what Brooks was talking about.
Well, it's also once Brooks goes to majors, you can't go back to PJ Tourwin.
That's right.
Like once Brooks is like, I've got four majors.
You can't be like, well, I have.
five PJ Torwins.
Like nobody, that's just not how it works.
So now we're arguing about semantics on like what type of trophies are filling your trophy
shelf.
And it's like, well, we're talking about majors.
Yeah, and it's not that serious.
No.
Abbs versus a picture of a trophy case.
And we all laughed about it and said, oh, pretty good comeback.
You also can't go at the number one player in the world.
And then he have him dunk on you and not expect people to take that guy side.
Right.
Like, I mean, that Brooks is winning on the golf course right now.
And he won in that fucking Twitter.
It would have been incredibly disingenuous for us to be like, oh, well,
we're taking Bryce inside when the clearer victor of that in exchange was Brooks.
Someone going at like a really good basketball player or something like, I mean,
Brooks is not even close to Michael Jordan, but someone being like, oh, I have stronger fingers than Michael Jordan.
And Michael Jordan being like, yeah, well, or like something like he doesn't have like whatever.
And then Jordan being like, well, my fingers are strong because I need to hold up all these fucking rings or something.
Everyone being like, oh.
And then that guy being like, yeah, well, actually, I've made it to seven all-star games.
Like, dude, we're not talking about one thing.
We're talking about just championships.
Like, that's what we're doing.
It's really just funny that it all started with abs.
It's funny.
It's ridiculous.
It's, uh, and that's pretty much the state.
I agree with everything that was said.
I think it's all pretty, pretty simple, fun and games.
We'll see what happened with Bryson.
It could just be the arc, the cycle that we go through with him.
I don't really know.
But, uh, Jake whipped up a very funny, uh, RIP to our relationship with Bryson.
So credit to Jake.
This would be a good time for him to come on the pot.
Every time that there is a time where he's like, whenever his world, it seems to be
burning up in flames,
he comes on four-play pot and everyone seems to like cool it down.
We are like the fire.
We're the Bryson firefighters.
And I did have a couple of, a couple of, yeah, we are.
I did have a couple people tweeted me to be like, oh,
Bryson's been so good to you.
Why did you guys do this to him?
It wasn't, we didn't do anything to it.
We just talked through it.
We just talked through the exchange that they had.
Yes.
And it's very obvious that you would rather have four majors than slightly better abs in another.
That's just like, that's what trends, the crux of Trent's comment.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's simple.
Maybe it's not for everybody.
You know, maybe some people do want strong abs.
I never said people don't want strong abs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The whole thing is just it's a laughable that it's about abs.
But, you know, we all stand by everything we said.
We were pretty much joking about everything.
And I think it's all good.
I think it's all good as well.
And that's the latest.
That's the state of the union, Bryce Nichambeau.
That was a podcast previewing, kind of talking about 20-20 year with Kevin Kisner, kind of.
I don't really know what we, I remember what we talked about, to be honest with you.
With Kisner?
Yeah.
It's just kind of a little bit of everything with that.
Good chance to win Augusta.
Yeah.
Yeah, which he said he just said so that we wouldn't say he said nothing.
I think one of the best quotes is like, I'll take that green jacket from any fuckers.
It's like that from anyone or something like that.
Any fucker.
Any fucker.
That's funny.
He had a lot of funny comments.
That's a funny guy.
That's what he does.
He's a funny witty guy.
We're down here.
We're down here.
Oh, Tiger Woods is playing.
Rory's playing.
John Robb's playing.
Torrey Pines.
Spath, who, uh, Frankie picked.
Fifty one.
Enjoy Tori Pines.
Enjoy the farmer's insurance.
We'll be back on Tuesday to talk all about it.
Hit it hard.
Hit it hard.
