Fore Play - Koepka’s Coronation & The Block Party
Episode Date: May 22, 2023Brooks Koepka wins the 2023 PGA Championship, his 5th major and 3rd PGA. Michael Block delivers a fairytale all week long, culminating with an ace for the ages. We react to and discuss it all: Brooks�...�� historic major run; the implications with LIV and the Ryder Cup; that bunker lip that crushed Hovland and Connors; Oak Hill’s standing as an iconic and true test of golf; major performance reviews for the likes of Rory, Scottie, and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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I've got a buddy who struggles with that shot.
His name's Frankie Burrilli.
So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knites it across the green.
Broads 100.
Now you've got to break 90s.
We appreciate what you guys do for golf.
It's been really cool.
Thank you.
You're making it cool.
We appreciate it.
I was like, hey, Phil, you don't need to.
fucking 2999. And he grabs a hundred. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 of these yesterday.
He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What are you that different?
Um, it's saying a hobby.
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Speaking of electric, we got an enormous amount to discuss. We got Brooks Kepka,
who really did a lot of things, a lot of things today, accomplished a lot of things that
The implications are things we've touched on for months and months and months.
We have talked about, imagine if a live golfer wins a major championship.
A live golfer just won a major championship and not any.
It was Brooks Kebke.
He wins his fifth major.
He wins three PGA championships.
He's only the third player in the stroke play era ever to do that.
The other two, Jack Nicholas and Tiger Woods.
He gets to five major championships all time, which is top 20.
Only 20 players in the history of golf have done that.
A couple other names that are at 20 or five major championships.
championship. Save you by Esteros, Byron Nelson. He's won behind Phil Mickelson. He's one of
the head of Rory McElroy. He had the whole thing with full swing. I saw I tweeted out the picture
earlier of him sitting on his little swing set there in his kitchen when he looked as depressed as
anybody with the blonde hair. That came out three months ago on full swing. We sort of laughed.
He had the Panthers clip where he was drunk at the game, chirp of the players. Now he's on top of
the world. He finished second of the Masters tournament. He wins the PGA championship. He's
representing live golfs.
We've got a ton to get to on the Brooks front.
And then obviously the Block party, we had to talk about Michael Brock,
who really, I mean, it was a weep fest if you weren't tearing up.
I don't know how Amanda Renner, Ballionis got through that whole thing without crying.
Like I just, I can't even imagine that.
She's up there doing that whole deal.
And he was crying and talking about this son and the whole deal.
So Oak Hill PGA Championship.
We talked about how they're five or six in a row coming into this fucking thing that delivered.
Recap Pod from the 2023 PJ Championship.
I have to put it in the absolute.
delivered column. Yeah, it didn't, you know, the final three holes were a little bit drama-less
because Brooks pulled away there, but for 70 holes, it was really close until Victor went for it,
and I don't blame him at all for going for it on 16. Look, Brooks was way up there in the rough. He had
a good angle to the green. He ended up making birdie on that hole. Victor knew he needed to make
par, or maybe even birdie to keep pace, and he's at a point in his career where another top five
in a major playing safe doesn't do anything. So I don't blame Victor at all for the decision. The tournament
was kind of over then, but between their battle and between Michael Block, the Michael Block stuff,
it's, if you propose this to like a Hollywood writer before, it's not even that they would say,
no, they would be like, you're a complete cheeseball. 46 years old, only club pro to make the cut.
He shoots 73 days in a row. He gets to play with Rory Macroy on Sunday. He's a hole in one on 15.
He gets up and down on 18 to finish T-15 to get back to the PJ Championship next year.
He makes $288,000. It's like, it looks like, it looks like. It looks like, it looks like,
like, you know, like someone was smiling on him this week. It just, things kept on happening where
you felt like you left reality. The whole and one was insane. The whole and one was not to be
believed as our guy Lurch says, who would not come on the podcast. But that was like, like, that was an
it was an unbelievable moment. It's one of those things that you look at and you say, there's,
like you were almost as as much in disbelief as he was because he didn't know he had a whole in one
until everyone had to tell him around him that went in. He was no fucking way. I mean, Rory dapped him up.
Rory dapped up the block party and he goes,
what are you talking about?
Like just good shot,
decent shot,
you think?
Probably tight.
And Rory's like,
it's in,
but it's in block.
It's in the hole.
An amazing week.
Brooks Kepka,
you know,
I'm getting absolutely shredded on Twitter right now
for saying that him winning is not Gucci,
bro.
At the end of the day,
like,
it's part of it,
dude.
At the end of the day,
everyone's going to politicize this thing.
I'm called the live guy on this podcast because I've said that
live is like a great thing for golf.
And then now I say like Brooks not winning.
Now I'm like the biggest lib that's ever been on Twitter of all time.
It makes me really mad.
But I'm not going to tweet it out.
I'm just going to fucking just sit it and eat.
I'm going to sit on it and eat on it because you just have to sit on your hands and just eat it.
You just have to.
You have to on Twitter and you just can't go.
I'm not going to be like, I actually don't care about live.
I'm not going to go back and forth to these guys.
Here's my stance is that I don't like Brooks because he was a douchebag to me.
And he was a douchebag to Barstle sports.
He was a douchebag to Dave Portnoy.
He acted like he was better than now, holier than now, when we tried to do a match against him.
I hated his entire perception about the game of golf, his entire take about how he doesn't actually care about golf.
He just cares about the majors.
I've always kind of hated that.
I've been saying that for three, four, five years now.
Nothing has ever changed with me in Brooks Kepka.
He won the BGA championship.
This guy might be arguably the best golfer of my generation.
Is it crazy to say that Brooks Kepka is the greatest golfer of my lifetime?
I mean, it's an interesting, like, kind of thought of.
experiment because Rory has obviously a lot more wins, but five majors versus four majors at the end of the day.
That's kind of what counts. He's dominated. Brooks Kepka's career. Brooks Kepka's career is outrageous.
Brooks Kepka has nine. He has nine total wins. 11 if you include his live golf ones, but he has nine
total wins and five of them are major championships. The only thing I can think of that's, it's not
close, but the, the lopsidedness is close is on hell Cabrera. I think on hell Cabrera has three wins.
I think he has three wins all time and two of them are major championships.
So it's like Brooks is that times a billion.
He's on another level.
I can't.
He's got four PGA Tour wins, five majors, which is again, it just doesn't make any sense.
Two of the two wins on live, which we're not going to completely discount, even though we may have a couple months ago.
And you have to think that never in the history of the game, and maybe I don't know the game well enough, I was texting with Kirk about this, has there been a player who, by all accounts, the major championships are harder for people.
They're just harder.
You show up, you put it on a pedestal.
We talk about Rory at the Masters Tournament,
where he goes in and it is all of the pressure in the world.
He should have won it in 2011.
He shot like a million.
He did bounce back, won the U.S. Open great.
But he's gone in there.
He played in the final round with Patrick Reed.
He had the phenomenal finish last year to finish in second,
but he goes in every time needing the queer grand slam.
He hasn't won a major in nine years.
Too much pressure.
He can't do it.
Brooks Kepka is the only fucking player it feels like.
Then when he goes into an event, a major in this case, and he adds it, he puts it on a pedestal.
He knows that it's a major championship.
He plays at a different level.
He actually is backing up the sentiment that on a weekend and week out, whether it was when he was on the PJ tour, now that he's on live,
he doesn't really care enough to dominate or to bring his A game or to, you know, whatever, go all in.
And at majors, he does.
He gets laser focused.
He gets into Beast mode.
Shout to Barstle Sports.
Beast Mo Jacket. He deserves one of those.
But he is just an absolute
savage of major championships. And it's not
just that he wins him. I was going through
because it's like I feel like I've seen him up there a million times.
He's got 12 other
top sevens in majors
since 2014.
I think he has 17 in his career.
This right, with the five wins.
So he's got that
that time when Tiger won, 2019,
you guys might recall that one.
Brooks Kebka, by all accounts,
like, should have won that tournament. He hit the one
in the water on 12 where he flushed a nine iron right at it,
bounced back and made an eagle on 13.
And then he came in and on 17 and 18,
he had very short birdie looks that just barely missed the hole.
Tiger ends up winning by a shot.
So it's like he very easily could have won that one.
He was in the final group with Phil Mickelson at the PGA championship at Kiowa.
He had a four-shot lead in the back nine of Saturdays round
at the Masters tournament a month ago.
So it's like he's not just like he's popped up and won five times.
He's just a major championship golfer and weekend and week out an average golfer.
It's like on the tour.
It's fucking nuts.
And the majors is what matters.
So like we can all say all this other bullshit live versus PGA tour.
Are you going to the waste management?
Are you not?
Are you playing in Tulsa for live?
Are you playing in Tulsa for PGA?
It doesn't matter when we the thing that gets the PGA tour or golf on TVs at the bars when you're with all your buddies and you're fucking watching golf is the major championship.
You got pools running.
You got people texting in group chats.
It's the majors.
It's the PGA.
It's the Masters.
It's the U.S.
Open.
And fucking Brooks wins them all.
Every time he plays in them, he wins them.
It's fucking crazy.
Dan was asking before we came on whether we thought it delivered or not,
this whole tournament and the ending in particular.
And in my head,
I was thinking no,
because when you watch Brooks Keppka,
especially when he's got a lead like he did with the final few holes to go,
it just felt like there wasn't much energy.
Michael Block kind of sucked all.
it out a couple like minutes before a few minutes before but then i thought when he when brooks walked
from the 18th green to the scoring tent that felt like a real moment when they followed him the whole way
felt like he walked three miles you could tell how much it meant to him and this is a guy that we've
gone back and forth on does he care does he not care what does he care about does he not even like golf
you could tell that this one meant a lot because of all that he's been through with the injury stuff
with all the live stuff with the full swing stuff
seeing it actually means something to brooks
made me feel it made the tournament feel big
and that i was his family where was his family
well i don't know his wife was like at sports illustrated swimsuit stuff
all weekend i saw her posting i don't know if i don't know if she's still there uh he's a
queer woman yeah she is she's a career woman it's two he's a unique just a breadwinner
situation anymore he's a very unique no i'm just saying the guy won the pGA he thought like
someone would hug him at the end of the greet that was the fill discussion we had two years
ago it was just bryson was there bryson was there to like fake hug him like hey there you go pal we're
friends now even though it was like the cringiest fucking rival we ever had to deal with for two years
that actually the brooks and and d and uh bryson like complete shit show robbery is like what
propelled for play podcast like through the rankings for a year basically because it's the only
thing we talked about every like 95 straight episodes and now they're hugging on the end at the end of
the PJ JTA, which is unbelievable, but go ahead, Dan.
No, no, I'm just going to say he's such a unique figure in the game and looking at it
in hindsight, like, of course he went to live, right?
He wasn't playing very well.
Makes the most sense for him.
He never cared about the PJs were really to begin with.
Right.
And the irony of the situation is that him going to live and Phil going to live, what it has done
is it has made the majors even more important and not, I don't want to say devalued the other
tournaments because the designated events have been great on the PJ tour, but there is
such a clear position that Frankie just allowed.
which is just, it really just comes down to the majors.
It's the majors, the majors, the majors.
And he's part of the reason why that's happened.
So, of course, he went to live.
And I will say, what an alpha dog move to, he's going to qualify for the Ryder Cup
on points now, most likely.
He's not even going to need a pick because the points are doubled for majors and he
finished second in the first one and first in the second one.
So to not even leave that in Zach Johnson's hands is crazy.
A couple other things on that front.
One, about the majors.
And I, you know, I very much now, I feel like we can all start to empathize, sympathize a little bit with Jay Monahan of the PGA tour because this is, this is clearly making PGA tour events.
It feels like mean less and less and less and less every single day.
This is all we need to see.
And now the fact that you had four live golfers or three finish inside the top five or six at the Masters, the fact that you had three finished inside.
the top 10. You had Camp Smith. You had Bryce of Deschambo and obviously Brooks Kepka won this event.
Finish so high that now it almost when you look at the tour wins, it does start to creep back in my head of like, well, yeah, I got one of this tournament, but like the other guys aren't there.
Like those guys are right. Those guys are studs. Like Brooks Kempka's one of us players in the world. And it's true.
Like I'm never if they, if these major championships don't allow the live guys to play in them from here on out, I will always put an asterisk next to it because.
The guys performing the best in these majors are live players.
I mean, it's crazy.
You've got Phil Mickelson, you've got, you've got Brooks, you got Bryson, you got Cam Smith.
These guys have to be in these big championships or else I won't value them as high as they should be.
And that is exactly what Liv has always tried to tell us.
And it's not just that this is a new development that the majors are the only thing that matters.
Rory McElroyd told a story in the last couple years of going to Tiger Woods' house,
looking around only seeing the major championship trophies and being like,
where are all the other trophies?
And Tiger's like,
I don't know.
I think my mom has a couple,
like,
whatever,
these are like these 15 are the trophies.
And that guy's been doing that for 20 years.
So it's not like this is just a new development.
We are seeing it now and it's amplified now.
But to those motherfuckers to the Tiger Woods of the world,
the majors are just it.
It's what matters.
And I don't think necessarily that this win does a lot for live.
more, I think it more hurts the PGA tour than it does for live.
Because we talked about it earlier this week.
We knew that these guys could play.
We knew these guys could play.
I don't think people are going to tune in because now Brooks won.
Like, you knew that these guys could play.
Phil finished second, Brooks finished second.
I agree with what you're saying about the PGA tour in the sense of it makes those feel not quite as gold standard.
There's a desire for me now to watch Brooks Kep could play.
Like when he, you know, like if they're playing in two weeks or something, I want to see.
Like the guy, the guy almost won the masters and just won the PGA.
I want to tune in more now.
I'm not, I don't think it's going to change the bottom line overnight.
But golf's never been to tune in for one guy to play, has it?
It's never been.
It's for the moment.
It's for the tournament.
It's for the context.
It's never like even, yeah, for sure, Tiger, but Tiger's like, you can't even debate with Tiger Woods.
He's not a really, it's a big part of it, but I would say, you're right.
It is every.
It is everything, but it's, but it's also, it's, it's everything, but that everything includes the players.
Like, there's a big difference of the Canadian Open when it was Rory versus JT than when it's just not.
Like, you tune in for that.
And you just don't if it's not those two.
And you could say that about any tournament where it's like those guys are kind of in the mix.
You're more likely.
It's not going to change the bottom line viewership of live overnight.
Clearly not.
But it is undeniably good for them overall because now no major.
I mean, right?
Coming into this year, we were pretty 50-50.
And if you looked at Fred Ridley's comments in like December, I think about, you know,
live players going forward, it was kind of looking like they might oust these guys going forward.
And they might not have a path.
You cannot have any scenario.
now where the live guys aren't in the major championships.
They're winning the majors.
They have to win.
They have to play.
They have to play.
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Can we talk about the fact that he has five majors and he's 33 years old?
I mean, that's, he's not even close to being finished.
Five majors.
Is he 34?
Is he 34?
I think he's 33.
He's a year younger than Rory.
He's like, I think he's like, I think he's like 364 days younger than where they're like a day apart.
He's got five majors at 33.
I mean, what's, what is like eight, I mean, could he win eight majors?
Could he win nine or ten majors?
Like, what did Phil have at 33?
Phil didn't win his first major and 34, I'm pretty sure.
Right.
So it's like a thing about that.
It's crazy. I mean, the guy just, he disappears. I mean, he basically disappeared for three years in world golf.
All he was known for was like funny stuff with Bryson and off the course. And then he just comes back and just, like, LACC, he's going to be one of the three favorites again.
Because if you hit perfect high cuts every single time and you put beautifully, the guy puts so, so, so well.
That par puttut he made on, what was the par five, 13, I think it is after Victor had made the birdie and he had that slippery par put for that.
had to go in was freaking massive and he drives it on the green i mean that he's he's macho on the he's
on the drama front we're a little we're being a little nitpicky because until that bunker
lip jumped up again and decided it wanted to be the star of the show it was all set with the block party
it was all set with brooks kebka for two days straight it just sucked the pGA championship into
its black hole that fucking thing two days in a row until that moment i mean we had an all time finish
we had, I mean, when Brooks had to make that 10 foot downhill or 8 foot or whatever the hell that was on that par five, that was a put to keep the lead.
If he doesn't make that, then Victor steps up on 14.
Let's say it's one on the green.
Like, now Brooks is going to be losing the tournament instead within 30 minutes because of that bunker lip and Brooks is clutch putting and clutch shots, obviously.
It was over.
But like, that thing was fucking close down the stretch.
I will say, I think the crescendo had to be the block party, man.
I think like he, that guy, the, those types of.
stories just end earlier than that.
They end Friday.
They end Saturday.
And then when he shoots even, even, even, and then he's playing with Rory and that
clip comes out that he's playing with Rory, that story's supposed to finish with they shake
hands on the first T, block party, hits it in the bunker, makes bogey, and you never see
him again on the coverage.
And instead, they cut to him and he makes a fucking ace on 15, which is almost over.
And then it wasn't over then.
He gets up and down from the fucking gallery, basically the first T on 18 to
guarantee a spot in next year's
PG a championship and then Rory just
looked at him and hugs him and says that was fucking awesome
like that whole thing that was
nuts that was fucking nuts
that whole thing happening Rory was walking off
18 and he
he looks around and he's like
can you believe can you believe this
it didn't again the the whole
and one as Frankie said is when we left reality
yeah I mean
they did like
on the last part of three
the tournament with Rory MacCloy.
I want to say, though, I can't believe Nance did this happen a few seconds ago.
Yeah.
He did it.
Did he did that?
He did that for that one because they came back from commercial.
And he was like a moment ago.
What is the point?
I just don't understand the pull.
What's the utility in doing that?
No, we've always said that.
We just said you are, no one knows but you, but you and the producer.
And the producer doesn't even have to tell you.
He could just cut to a camera and be like, all right, here's Michael Block on this par three.
And then again, I don't want to, now I'm being too nitpicky.
It was an incredible.
I think it's on the producer.
Because I'm going to get the
It's a joke, Trent.
That's a joke that he did that.
That's a fucking, he ruins the moment a little bit by saying.
Yeah.
You got to just go live.
The producer needs to have their head on a spike for that in his ear.
You can't put that in his ear.
It's an entertainment product.
It's entertainment.
Like,
but that isn't.
I'd love to talk to Trevor Mellman about that.
Like why he thinks that that's a necessity that they need to tell us
legitimately that this happened in real time a moment ago when we're quite literally
bouncing around the golf course.
showing different shots at different times.
No one knows a single thing.
When you show that on the screen,
you should assume that every single person
is just assuming that's happening in real time
because it is to us.
No matter what happened,
no matter when it happened,
we're assuming that that's happening right now.
So when you show Michael Block making contact on that hole,
we should not be hearing anything other than
the ball's in the air and here it goes towards the hole.
Don't tell anyone anything other than that ball is live.
It is on the producer because the producer is clearly telling
Nance like this happened a second ago.
Joe,
it's up to the.
producer to know what Nancy knows.
Because I think Nancy's brain is like, I'm journalistic integrity.
I'm going to say a moment ago.
So don't even put in his brain.
You're the producer.
You run the show, really.
Don't even put that in his brain.
Be like, we're cutting live.
We're cutting live to the block party.
And then let them call in real time.
Our parents,
our parents watch the miracle on ice like 12 hours after it happened.
Do you think that whole game was fucking out Michael's like a moment ago?
He passed it over to the left point.
A moment ago, he's no, he didn't do that.
They fucking just show it.
And everybody goes,
crazy in real time. They don't know.
They don't know. The craziest part also
is that a lot of shots aren't in real time.
Like sometimes I'll be out on the golf course
and I'll walk in and then they show a pot that happened a minute ago,
but they don't say anything. Right. So why would you
say it in the one moment? It's the most electric
moment. It was the pinnacle
of the tournament. I am, I was on the
golf course when that happened. I'm stunned to hear that.
I'm stunned to hear that they ruined. That was the only
little part. Everything else was perfect.
Everything about, everything else about the story was perfect.
It's funny how we all had that same
experience. Like when they cut and he said a moment
ago, every one of us thought for like 5% of it.
Like, does he jar this?
Does he jar this?
Is that what's going on?
Because sometimes they'll do it where he, the guy will just hit it close.
You're like, oh, wow.
But then and even when the ball was in the air, Jim Nance was like, and the fairy tale continues.
And I was like, well, this is got to be pretty good.
And then I just went straight into the whole.
He did say that.
You're right.
That was nuts.
That was nuts.
It doesn't take too much away from it.
Everything else with the Michael Block thing was pretty.
Like we thought Michael Bloch's following.
And Michael Block with Amanda talking about, or actually I think it was earlier in the day where he was saying like, you know, when you turn 60 years old or 70 years old, you're going to look back at the top moments of your life and be like, those were the moments.
We've said that on this podcast.
I said that about watching Islander games with my dad being like, there's going to be a time when I'm older and I don't have everyone around.
And you're going to be like, man, remember those times where things were fucking awesome.
and like when you're in those moments, when I'm watching the games with my dad,
I'm looking around being like, this is it.
This is that moment.
I'm going to look back at that photo.
The photo that my buddy just took of us, me, my arms around my buddies, my arms
around my dad, like, that's the photo I'm going to look back on my whole life.
And I'm doing it right now.
And Michael Block sitting there being like, when I'm 70 and I'm not playing golf anymore,
I'm going to look back at this right now, that shot I just hit was the greatest shot I've ever
hit in my life. The greatest week I've ever had. And for him to be humble enough to be able to look
back and see that as he's in the moment, to be able to take a step away and say that it's never
going to get better than this, Amanda. And he started crying. He goes, this is it. No shot. Nothing gets better
than this. That is so cool. It made me so emotional watching that. He's just a regular guy. I know a lot of
people on Twitter were like some of them were like saying he's cocky and he's like, he's a showboater.
I saw people going after me being like, how could you like a guy like that?
He thinks he's like owning them.
Yeah, the guy owns the moment.
He dominated the PGA championship.
He's going to go down as one of the greatest stories in PGA and one's ever
owned a moment.
I mean, he's more,
he'll be more remembered for this than Brooks Kepka.
It's crazy.
You'll always remember Michael Block and you should always remember him.
The guy is given out $150 lessons.
He's at a public golf course in California.
The place is going crazy for him.
He's 46 years old.
He almost gave up all the game.
of golf. His son's playing. They're both playing in qualifiers.
It's amazing. His story's amazing. And it's, it encapsulates everything that's cool about golf
that a 46 year old that probably should have given up on this dream is able to do what he did
this week. That's amazing. I, I want to know if he's going to try to make a run at the PGA,
at the champions tour. Because the way he, the way he talked this week, you know, he realized that
it was an incredible moment and he drank it in, but he never said like, I'm having the week of my life.
I can't believe I'm up there. If you, if you watch his press conference, he's like,
I can shoot three under tomorrow.
I could shoot four under tomorrow.
He goes,
he goes, with all due respect to Rosie,
I can play with these guys.
For him to think that at 46,
he's got,
I mean,
there's a guy,
Rob La Brits,
who was a Glenn Arbor,
I think was he the,
I think he was the pro at Glen Arbor
for a long time.
It was a really good club bro.
He turned pro,
or he went to Champions Store at 50
and got his card,
and now he's playing on the championship store.
So I got to think that Michael Block
is thinking long and hard about that.
No, no.
I don't want to see Block the Block Party
on the champion store out there.
This is it.
No,
like he said,
This should be it.
This is what he's remembered for.
I don't need the block party out there.
Yeah, we'll see him out there.
But like that's not, it's not the same thing to chant the block party.
I want to remember him like coming up 18, Ace, getting up and down from the gallery.
You know, like that's, I think that's kind of where the block party goes.
The beauty of the whole thing was how, how into what everyone was for the same reasons.
And that's, that's those same reasons where everyone felt like this is our guy.
This is just one of us.
This guy is not going to win.
It's not going to win the PGA championship.
And at that point, it was like, this isn't going to affect his professional golf like in terms of making it on the toy.
Like, it's not going to really affect any of that.
This is an unbelievably cool moment for a normal guy and everyone was rallying around it solely for that reason.
That was what was so cool.
Everyone is in like, this is awesome for him.
Therefore, it's awesome for me to the point where they're chanting his name and they're fucking crying for him and they're going.
nuts. You just don't get that very often. You don't get a moment where people are happy just because
this other guy is so happy about it. And that's what it was. Something about our culture and like just
humanity about like like you look at Michael Block and he's different than the other guys. But he's just
every single person's just a person. You know what I mean? Like like Brooks and Scotty and Rory are
just men that are out there golfing. But we look at them as if they're these like godlike figures and they've
been put on earth to be golfers. And then you look at a guy like Michael Block and you're like,
what a story? How is this guy out there? What was he made out of? Like, who let this guy out there?
What is he even human? Like, what is happening? And then you're, you're so stunned. But really,
he's just a guy that didn't get as many breaks as these other guys or else he would have been out there
at the same time. It's just, it's very, very funny at how we view certain people because they aren't as
successful compared to the guys you know it's just it was it was funny to see that juxtaposition of like
you can't believe he's doing this how could it humanly possible meanwhile you got like joll damon
out there who's like getting shit faced in night before and like he doesn't even know where he doesn't
even know where the first he is and you're just like well like oh yeah that guy's for sure supposed to be
there but michael block's like oh my god how is he hitting drives right now when michael block got
paired up with the war people like can you believe he's paired up with rory
It's, I know what you mean, but it is, I mean, but then Michael Block hits a shank on Thursday or Friday.
It's like, oh, yeah. But he is, they are different. We're like, in a weird way, we're like, oh, he wasn't as good as Rory his whole life. So this story's better. Like, you know what I mean? Like he wasn't, he wasn't as skilled and athletic as these other guys. But now he like got a chance. So like this story's way better. Even though like that doesn't really make sense if you like break it down and think about it rationally. I know. Yeah. It's a great story ever. But. But.
It's just, it's weird how we like come around these stories where it's like this guy.
But I think it's just because like we realize everybody's a person like you started off saying, right?
Everybody's a person.
And like that person, this meant the world to that person.
And that's fucking awesome.
Like this week meant more to that guy than it did to Roy McElroy.
So we're all like this is our guy.
And that's just everybody can believe in that.
It's like you all got your own path.
His path takes into a place where he's not supposed to be in this arena.
He is not supposed to be out there making fucking holes.
one and having Rory Macroy
tell him like, it went into the hole block.
It's in the hole. Like he's not
supposed to be in this situation, not supposed
to have people chanting for him.
And it's not that he doesn't
deserve it, but he clearly had not taken
the steps, gotten to this point
where like, oh yeah, of course he's inside that
arena. So the fact that he was and that he
was fucking performing is
just awesome. Brandl
had a great, Brandl had a great tweet, a very
brandle tweet being like, you know,
it says something about us in our culture
that we're the happiest story that we're all happy for is we're pulling for the poorest guy out there.
I don't know. I think he's like, I think he said he's the happiest guy in the field.
It's like I think Shane Lowry's pretty happy as well. Like a lot of these guys who have a lot of
money, you're pretty happy. Netflix was all over at you guys. I think Michael Block is going to be
featured in season two of full swing if I had to guess because they were all over.
I mean, it's a, it's a cheer drinker story. It's a it's a it's a no brainer for them.
They're going to yank on the heartstrings with that one.
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We were, and we played Caledonia.
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The Ryder Cup situation.
We got to talk about this Ryder Cup situation.
So, I mean, Brooks Kebkeke, we talked to all about.
what he's done so far.
He wins the PJ Championship.
PGA of America puts on the PGA championship.
They also, whenever the Ryder Cup is in America, put on the Ryder Cup.
They're incredibly, they work side by side with the European Tour on the Ryder Cup.
So there is tied to it.
They're as involved in it.
Is their production?
Is their operation?
It's their event, basically, them in the European Tour.
He's their champion.
Live golfers, by all accounts, are probably.
were considered like they were not going to be on the Ryder Cup teams so much so that the captain of the European Rider Cup team was replaced the second that he went to live now there's no way that they don't put Brooks Kepka on this Ryder Cup team right and if they do put them on the Ryder Cup team then you can't make an argument of like well we just pick a choose where we want to like a live guy like then you kind of have to let them all if they deserve it or you think right like can you can you only allow like one
guy, if it's clear that more than one guy, deserve to be on the team on merit?
I actually think that him making the team on points, because they're still eligible to make the team on points from the tournaments that they play.
The thing is that live events aren't included in the points.
That's what I'm saying.
So people would argue that.
People will argue that.
Like, no, no, on merit, like, if they just got points for live tournaments, the ex-players would just make the team.
Yeah, but I think, like, Brooks playing so well puts, and it removes any.
decision that Zach Johnson has to make, because he's going to make it on points.
The more interesting question is if, yeah, if DJ wins like three, three live events in
row, I could still see them not picking him because, you know, you could make the argument.
I'm not saying I agree that, oh, you know, it's 54 holes.
It's not a, but Brooks is removing all doubt from the situation.
So there's going to be at least one live guy on the team.
There's going to be live guys in the Ryder Cup.
That's half a time.
Who will DJ is.
I mean, DJ's really, I guess Bryson could do it as well.
Yeah.
But I mean, there's not going to be, regardless of who it is, I.
I don't think there's going to be any, like, Zach is just going to pick.
If it's the best guys, that's who he's going to pick.
I really do think that I think, I think this thing has thought enough and now we got a major
winner from Liv.
Like, I don't think, like, what's the roadblock, really?
The roadblock is that Zach Johnson is like a PGA tour lifer and, you know, he's been
very critical and, you know, it's still, the establishment is still very much against Liv.
And you can make the argument.
The American Golf is so deep that the team is going to be stacked with or without Dustin
Johnson.
Brooks Keppka's playing so well now that it's not going to be in his hands.
But he can still, you know, he could pick a guy like Sawyth or a guy like Cameron Young and say,
you know, I felt like we want some younger blood.
Like there's an excuse to be made.
Brooks is not not letting that possibility even happen.
True.
There is a bit of a gray area with the picking where you can't say you want the younger guys.
Obviously, Brooks has taken all that out.
But I don't think it would be that big of a deal anymore.
You make a good point about him being like a PJ tour lifer, but I still just think they want the best team.
Yeah, I'm looking at the, I'm going to look at the PGA Tour social right now because they, they've got to be doing some really, have they been, they got to be really creative.
Everyone's hitting them with like the crying face behind the happy face.
They're just very, very fact-based tweets.
Oh yeah, Brooks Capco wins the PGA championship for his fifth major title, period.
True.
Those things are both true.
Brooks Ketka has won his third PGA championship, period.
True.
I'm surprised they made the graphics.
Someone's out of like, they don't want to do this.
It's the, it's the button.
I mean, the thought that these people work.
for like the PGA tour social media and that everyone that works at the PGA tour doesn't like
live is like crazy it's not like you work for the organization and you're like a a shill of
of of this entire organization j monahan and everything that he stands for like every every time we
have a take if i say that i don't like p Brooks kebkeg everyone thinks that i love the pjator not everything
has to be so black and white i do think at some point it does have to be i know on twitter it
does have to be at some point this is all just gonna be normal like it's just going to be
be what it is.
We're all washed, baby.
Wash it on you.
It's like what Tiger said to Scotty.
It is what it is.
It is what it is.
You know, I just don't take divvits.
It's just,
it's a fact that you just have to accept.
Live golf is not going anywhere.
Greg Norman's going to get his tweets off.
They're going to play in the Ryder Cup.
These guys are going to contend in majors.
They're going to win majors.
And it's just going to be what it is.
It doesn't always,
we're allowed to not like certain people without it being who do you,
who do you love and who do you represent in your takes?
I hate that.
When are we going to get past that?
Because that's,
I want to be able to hate Brooks
and not talk about what league he plays in.
Can we get to that point?
I think we're there.
I think we're there.
Are we?
Because I said,
Brooks not winning is Gucci,
bra.
And everyone's like,
I can't wait for you to fucking vote for fucking,
where's Bernie Sanders?
At Borrelli's tonight?
It's like,
why does it always have to be a political tweet?
It's just like I don't like Brooks.
I think he's a fucking douchebag.
I don't know.
It's just my take.
Like,
I just think he's a fucking loser.
I don't know.
It's just like it has nothing to do it.
where he plays professional golf.
It never has.
If you're judging by Twitter trolls, then it might, it might never change.
But I feel like I had like 300 responses.
It was fucking crazy.
People are going nuts.
Yeah.
I feel like in real life, the heat's been taken out of the situation big time.
At the tournaments for sure.
People were going crazy for Brooks.
Yeah, people loved it.
People loved it.
Yeah, I'm just not convinced that the live, like, I just don't know how, like, team Europe is a great case.
Team Europe, like, they need live golfers on their team.
and based on their current situation,
like,
are guys going to qualify on points?
I don't think that they are
because they don't have a way to accumulate points.
So I don't see how team Europe can be like,
we literally ousted the captain of the team
because he went to live and then we're going to pick live golfers for the team.
That would be insane.
They can't do that.
Yeah,
they took a really,
really firm stance.
What they could say is,
you know,
the guys who went to live who are European or the older guys,
Paul Casey,
and Poulter Lee Westwood, Hendrick Sensen,
and they got absolutely shit pumped at Whistling Strait
so they can say, oh, we want to turn over a new leaf.
But yeah, you're right.
I didn't even think about that.
It is, I don't want to use the word hypocrisy
because it's such a loaded word in golf these days.
But if you kick out the guy for going to live,
and then you have live golfers, like, where is the line?
Yeah.
So, so yeah, they'll be in a tricky spot.
I'm whatever.
It'll work out.
The rider cup will be great.
but yeah it's it's it's a monumental day for this landscape of golf that we talk about on this
here show all the time there were months of us talking about imagine if a live golfer wins a major
championship and one thing that i you know has been dispelled to was there was a narrative that
the live golfers aren't going to be as sharp they're not going to be as competitively ready
to win and compete at the demands of a major championship they play 54 holes they don't play against
the strong of fields they only play eight times a year now they're obviously playing more but that
was the deal last year and that when they play they're playing it the munis that looked like
the tulsa course that dan rapporte got into fights with the turf crews about like that turfs look
like shit i stand by it's my grave just not going to be able to do it and that turned out to be wrong and
now we're in a situation where the majors really are they really are delivering i think on every front
that we hoped they would with the drama the fact that we had phil mickleson and brooks keppka right
there at the master's tournament and then we have brooks kebka standing alone at the end of this fact that he is
as clearly the best major championship golfer.
And we said majors are pretty much the only thing that really,
really matters of the last 10 years and it's not even close is a hell of a storyline.
Oak Hill.
I want to talk a little bit about Oak Hill and PJ Championship in general.
Kind of our thoughts on Oak Hill.
I was thinking a lot about it today.
And I like it a lot.
It's obviously got a ton of history.
I enjoyed it.
I enjoyed the test.
I enjoyed the carnage.
there was a ton of carnage out there.
People that got ejected got ejected hard.
The one thing I will say is that I don't know that from a golf course like standpoint,
that it really offers a lot of incredibly exciting, like tense moments.
Like I didn't feel that, right?
Like on a, and Augusta's always what you're measured against and that's not really fair.
But at the back night at Augusta, I mean, you have the T shot on 12.
You have the approach shot on 13.
You have the approach shot on 15.
have the T shot on 60. Like, people go crazy over all of those shots when they pan to a guy and Jim
Dance doesn't ruin it with this happen before. And they're standing over that shot. You tense up as
like, because you know as the viewer that like, this could go any way here. Like somebody, a lot could
happen here. I didn't feel like there were really that many moments. Like even the sixth hole,
which is the hardest hole, Scotty Schaeffler's ever played, he said, and all that. It was like,
guys either hit a really good T shot and had a decent chance to make a par or they hit at the hazard,
took a drop, hit it on the green, and like two putter it.
That was kind of what that hole was doing.
And yeah, there were some blowups and stuff.
But even then that hole and like the tough stretches,
it just didn't feel like, it didn't feel like there were a ton of like magical
kind of huge moment swing opportunities that you kind of got ready for.
Like 14, the drivable hole.
It was like even guys that hit white be shitty ones.
Like it was still kind of up near the green and they chipped it up there and had a decent
birdie pod.
There wasn't like really trouble.
a ton of drop. So again,
excellent, really hard to argue about anything.
I thought it looked great. It presented great.
It was tough. There were only at the end
of it probably what, 10 or 12 guys
that finished under par. You had to play
incredibly well to be
under par and be even close to
to posting a good score. But I thought
it lacked a little bit on like
delivering a handful of
intense shots that you were like, this could
be an eagle or this could be a double.
Yeah, 11 on guys under par.
You know, there's a lack of water, which I think
It's a big reason at Augusta why those shots are so important because it's either it either's on the green or it's a penalty, whereas here it's just, you know, it'd be in the rough.
And that was the knock.
You know, Andy Johnson, who's kind of a big voice in the golf course architecture game was saying that, you know, with all this rough, it becomes a little bit of dull viewing because you either hit the fairway or they hit it in the rough and they have to lay up.
You know, I think also only two par fives has an impact there where it was like, you know, there's only and one of them wasn't, both of them were over 600 yards.
So not really reachable.
There weren't like a lot of chances for Eagles.
It was a great test of golf.
And I think a lot of the guys said it was a great test of golf.
But that test of golf is not what pops on television.
Yeah, that was kind of my take.
And not anything really negative necessarily negative about it.
It's great.
It was beautiful.
I loved being there.
The club's really cool.
It's got so much history.
It's awesome.
Rochester golf is sweet.
It's got a ton of character.
I want to get back up there and play a bunch of those courses.
O'Kills one of them.
But I agree.
Like in terms of just delivering for TV, it wasn't necessarily
the most like riveting course down the stretch um but that's kind of nitpicking i think at this point
it's turn around danny because it'll be so awkward but danny's in this media center and our camera
king so we went live Thursday friday Saturday from the um all i could think about why you guys are
talking about from the bgat championship danny's inside the media center and there was a guy who we called
our camera king he would just pack up his bag for like 45 minutes behind right on the right night
It was unbelievable.
You couldn't believe how many things he was taking out, how many lenses he had to take off
of cameras, how many caps he was putting on pieces of technology.
It was 45 minutes of straight packing one backpack.
And he's back right now staring at this podcast, eating the biggest slice of pizza you've
ever seen in your entire life.
And he, I mean, look at him.
He's locking eyes with us right now.
It's an unbelievable site for anyone that's not on YouTube.
You have to go to YouTube and just look at this guy, just crush pizza.
I need him to start packing up that camera gear.
That's when the show really starts.
There's nothing better.
Nothing better than watching him work.
Should I bring him in?
No, you just got to let him be who he is, you know?
He's always just got to be that camera guy eating.
I mean, he's crushing that pizza.
I'm jealous.
I'm starving.
Gotta be like quiet.
I don't know too with my hands.
I'm trying to be like really incognito here.
Yeah, that guy is a star and he doesn't even know it back there.
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I do agree with Rags where it's like,
you know,
when you're watching it and you're like,
I was with a couple of buddies and you're trying to really pay attention
to what's going on.
And a lot of the times it's like if the guy missed the green,
it's just like a chunk out of the,
out of the little rough around the green and like hope that he makes like
a kind of decently long part.
put that's not as sexy of a drama filled back nine as these other golf courses kind of
produced but if you really do pay attention to how clutch some of these puts were coming down
the stretch by Brooks and Victor just to keep it in I mean even Scotty hit a bunch of shots towards
the end to be like this guy's six under if Brooks kind of falters he hits a bogey one way he gets a
bogey here gets a bogey there Brooks is just I was thinking Scott he was just going to win this thing
There was a time, there was like an hour where I said there's no way Sky Shepard doesn't win this major.
And I think for that reason, it definitely delivered.
But I can see why, like, visually, it's not as satisfying to watch a ball, trickle into high rough as it is to like watch it skip off a green.
You like scream like sit, sit.
And then it goes into the water.
You know what I mean?
Like that's totally different.
But definitely it this will, this was a big moment.
I think this was a big moment for the PGA to like.
really keep this street going of good major championship venue drama delivering the pg
championship gets a lot of shit for not having its own identity and fuck man it it's just delivered for
like half a decade i mean how much more do you want from this thing it's way better than any other
tournament like it's better than the fucking valsbar it's better than the fucking john dear like it's just
it's it's a major they do the they do the they do the thing they're supposed to do you're supposed
to be one of the top five tournaments of the year they're doing it so like shout out
to the PGA championship because it's fucking delivering.
I don't know what else could they do.
What else can they do?
It's it.
They're doing it.
They're doing the thing.
Michael Block was big for the identity.
Michael Block was big for the identity because the club pro.
That's like an amateur making a run at the Masters.
That's like an amateur making a run at the Masters.
That's their version.
Can it be the identity of something if it doesn't ever happen?
Like that's never, that type of run is not going to.
But it could happen.
It could, but it pretty rarely does it happen.
I don't know that it was big for like the identity of the event, but it was big.
for sort of the story of the PGA of America, right?
Like I think a lot of people, a lot of casual golf fans,
they look at the PG, they hear PGA and they just think PGA tour.
They don't even know PGA of America exists.
They don't know PGA of America is a different thing.
They don't know PGA Championship is a different entity and a different event from just
the PGA tour weekend or week out other than we call it a major.
So I think that was big for a lot of people being like, who is this, how is this fucking
guy that folds like T-shirts and gives lessons in this tournament with Roy McRoy?
What's the deal?
Oh, club of 20 or group of 20.
they get in. This is all about the PGA professionals, which that part of it's very, very cool.
And I think that, you know, alerted some people more to like understanding it. I don't think it changed the identity.
I agree with you on that. But I do, Frankie, that's a great point about some of those puts.
Like those puts down the stretch. Those were tense, tense moments. When Brooks Kepka had that par putt that
Dan talked about on 13 after Victor made that birdie, like that was intense. That was a two-shot swing if he misses.
and he buries that.
And then the next hole on 14,
Victor got up and down from that rough
and had like a 10 footer to make birdie
and buried it.
And like those moments when they cut to those guys,
that was very intense.
Like those puts were incredibly intense.
I used to hate the down below right behind the putter shot.
Like the zoomed in.
I hate the worm cam when Tiger Woods is putting
because I feel like they actually move the ball away from the hole.
But it's the only cam that shows you if the ball is whole.
holding its line. I'm actually starting the more I've seen it, the more I hate just like the
broadcast cam from way up in the tower. You have no idea how much that's moving left to right,
right to left. There was a put that Brooks nailed, or no, Brooks missed it. I forgot what
it was. Was it 15, 14? Brooks missed it and it went a little bit short and right. He was off the green
on the fringe. And then Hovlin got that read and was able to put from kind of the same distance.
I think it was like 14 or 15.
What's the whole that they drive?
14.
14.
14.
I'm pretty sure it was 14.
I've got to news.
And I'm looking at this putt.
Oh,
wow.
Michael Block has received a sponsor's invite into next week's Charles Schwab challenge.
Whoa.
No brain.
I like that.
No brain.
I like that.
Well,
now he's just a champion's like that thing.
Well,
now he's like a PGA tour.
The champion's tour thing is different.
That's like,
you know,
I mean,
come on.
I like,
let them play.
now with the guys while he's still, you know, he's hot, he's young, but I don't, in five years,
I don't need Michael Block pop it back up with the senior. You know what I'm saying? Don't you think
that's a little different? I'm happy for Michael Block, but selfishly, and he can do it every once.
He's a big butt. He kind of snuck that butt in there. That's a big butt. I'm just saying, like,
I want the Michael Block story to be always at the PJ Championship, or at least I want it to end,
like, just as a story headlines guy, like, I just know that he's not going to be able to play all that
well if he keeps getting into these tournaments.
That was kind of my point before about being like we really like
galvanize around this story even though when you think about it rationed like this guy's
been in events before.
He's a PGA professional.
He gets paid to teach golf.
He's he has the card and the statistics and all of the history to be able to actually
be in the championship.
Like we're acting like he was plucked out of this fucking country club like no, he actually
like the guy in the rider cup, the fan of the rider cup where they pulled out and made that
Southern California.
section player of the year nine of the last 10 years. He's been the section of the year player nine
of the last 10 years. And like now and I brought up Joel Dame and all these guys like now he's
just going to be in these tournaments and just be one of those guys that finishes like 45th and just
kind of like Frankie is souring on Michael Block. Frankie is souring on Michael Block. I'm not sorry.
It was going to happen to somebody. One of us was going to go. I'm not souring on Michael Block.
I'm saying when you think about it rationally like no. The guy kind of has always been really good at golf.
Like this was his moment. And listen. I was crying. I was crying.
today. I was crying watching him.
You cry. I know I do. I cried during
blink last night too at UBS
because I just seeing Tom and seeing
Mark and Mark talking about like beating cancer
and being like looking at
18,000 people when the only thing I was looking
at was like a drip bag of chemotherapy
like a month ago, a year ago was insane.
Like that really pulled at the heartstrings mark.
It's nuts. But what I'm saying
is that at some level you got to think
rationally about this stuff and be like
of course this guy's
good enough to kind of like compete out there.
No, is he not?
Well, no, listen, I was watching.
That's why he's there.
This weekend I was watching the PJ championship with my mom and I was telling her about
the PGA pros and how they're playing.
And she goes, so these,
so these guys aren't like PJ tour professionals,
but like would they beat you and the guys in the podcast?
I was like,
these guys would murder us.
They're pros.
They're pros.
So,
I get paid to go out.
I'm not sour enough.
He's been in the PGA championship before.
Like,
if anything, it speaks to.
to the different levels of the game of golf that people don't understand.
They're like,
I have a buddy who shoots about even like that guy could make a run.
You're like, no, no, no, no, no.
Here's us.
We're like pretty decent weekend golfers, actually.
Like we suck compared to actual golf, but like decent weekend golfers.
Then like there's people that are around scratch that are really good.
Then there's people that are like plus four handicaps that play at their local win the club championship that are really good.
those guys are nowhere near being able to play professional golf.
And then there's guys that play professional golf can't quite make it,
do many tour stuff,
become club pros perhaps.
And then there's the best of them,
which is Michael Block,
who is like winning the sectional nine out of 10 years and all that.
That guy can't make it in professional golf,
not even close that.
That's why he's worked at this club since 2004.
That guy then went out there with 19 other people like to do every year
and was the only guy to make.
make the cut and no one ever makes the cut out of the PGA pros.
And he did it and almost and finished top 15 to get his car.
That's why it's fucking amazing.
Right.
It's the level.
How good people are.
Right.
Like Frankie,
now I think I'm on the other side of the argument that you made originally where I'm like,
Rory is an alien.
Like all these guys are really aliens.
It is crazy that he got to stand next to Rory.
Right.
Because Rory is an alien.
It makes you think how absurd it is that we assume that these guys that like,
oh yeah, of course,
Rory McElroy is like without a doubt the guy who's going to beat Michael Block.
We assume of him greater than human abilities just off the bat because he is Rory
Macroy because he has done it because he has the credibility.
He has all the stats.
He has the history.
It's just funny that like when you break it down, they're just two human like human being
guys that are just hitting the golf ball.
One just happens to be way better.
Like Michael Block's buddies are probably like, dude,
whoever has to play with him is going to get dusted.
He's unbelievable.
They're like, that guy is the best golfer.
By the way, how popular is Michael Block going to be when he gets...
I was going to say the days of $150 lessens.
If he knows what's good for him, those days are over.
Today's price is not yesterday's price.
Dude, just seeing him walking around that club is going to be like...
He's a celebrity.
It's just like his life has changed forever.
He's probably, yeah, yeah.
He said that his life feels very different.
$28,000.
He's playing next week.
But he plays with Pais.
said he plays with Patrick Cantley a lot and Bo Hasler and he's playing a lot of PJ
tour events because if you win the section, you get into like the farmers and you get into
the genesis and he shot like a zillion over. And he said the other day, he's like, I see Patrick
Cantley and Patrick Cantley's like, what the hell are you doing? Like, you're so much better than
this. So they know that this guy has game. They know he can play. They know he can play.
Yeah, I, um, yeah, it's an unbelievable story. Unbelievable story. It can't get over it.
It's real life 10 cup. It's the whole deal. Michael Block. So I, you know, I saw a lot of people tweeting
and this guy better be on the podcast.
We will make it our mission.
Michael Block will be on this.
I'm working on it.
We're working on it.
At some point, that guy was made to come on this show.
So we're going to do everything in our power to get that guy on the show.
And yeah, I mean, he's clearly an unbelievable golfer.
He went and played that golf course.
Is it possible?
And only however many guys finished under par, he finished, what, one over for the entire week or something like that?
So he, I mean, I mean, to play 72 holes at that golf course and post one over,
par. Are you fucking kidding?
We've constantly made the argument. If we're talking about the
levels, every level should
participate in almost every golf tournament.
And we'll just see. Agreed. That's how you really
see. That's how you're going to get the general
public to understand just how good these guys are.
Because you let all,
each of us go out there and the scores are
going to be astronomical. Ram
was on the broadcast and they told him that Michael
Block hits about a bucket of balls
a week, and Rom goes, and he's beating me by
how many shots?
It's just like,
It's golf, man.
It's a strange, strange sport.
Yeah, I mean, it's awesome.
It's awesome.
Good for him.
Okay.
So I got a couple other things that we're talking about.
Scottie Schaeffler.
Scottie Schaeffler continues to be a problem.
He still, it feels like, looks like he's rattled and frustrated more than I've ever seen him.
And he finished tied for second, I believe, in the tournament.
So he's just going to be a problem going forward.
He and Rahm and obviously Brooks Kevka now up there going into these majors.
I do feel like are sort of the guys, him and Rory.
Both I feel like just had interesting weeks where both of them looked by all accounts to the naked eye like they didn't quite have it.
And both of them with damn good finishes, Scotty obviously finishing second place.
But I'm just always amazed by that.
I'm amazed by Scottie Schafer.
I'm amazed by seeing him throughout this year where he won at the players championship.
What do you win by four, six shots in the players' championships?
Five.
One by five almost.
I was all around it.
He won by five at the players championship.
He's got him over wins.
And then he just, again, looks frustrated.
Looks like he's not quite there.
He looks upset with the putter.
Like, you can't really make any putts.
He finished fucking second.
He beat everybody but Brooks Kebka.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, no, it didn't look.
It didn't look good.
It didn't look good.
And he finished second.
Again, he hasn't finished worse than 12th in a golf tournament since October.
And for all of his, for all of,
it's a crazy stat.
It's a crazy staff.
For all of how much we talk about how Scotty is like,
the coolest guy and like the most you know even-field guy and it's true off the golf course he's got a little bit of an edge out there like he gets frustrated remember you'll see a video every now and then where he's like remember there was one a couple weeks ago where his putting coach telling he's like i'm fucking doing it dude like i'm trying like i'm putting like that i'm trying my best so there is a fire that burns pretty hot man and for by all accounts he was a bit of a hot ed when he was growing up so it's nice to see he's a money machine is what he is oh my god even if you don't win these tournaments and he's won a bunch of them but if you just get second and you don't finish outside the top 12 for for
what is that that's seven months now
over seven months you're making
so much money like what did he give for second today
I think Brooks got 3.2
I can I can check two
probably got 2 1 I'm gonna check right now for you
yeah he's a very rich man
we have the sheet we have the sheet
purse from Mr. Greg Dillard from the PGA of America
there we go and so he finished
tied for there was two guys tied for second
so they split second and third so yeah about 1.5
you were rich girl
and you don't do you know
good money man
What did he get for the players championship for three four three I think three point six maybe or something something like that.
I'm all around it once again.
Three point six.
I made that up.
I'm not sure if it's three point six.
I think you're right around that.
But yeah, I mean that's five million dollars over five million dollars right there in two events.
He's played more than two events by my count.
So he's just making millions and millions and millions and dollars and playing great golf.
Scotty Shephy was just a problem.
His ball striking.
He hits it.
It is just he's one of those guys that it's like,
even when they cut to him and he's yanking.
drives or he's hitting it he just gets the ball in the hole efficiently i just you know i don't know how
i was to explain that it's one of those you can't necessarily put a pin on it i'm sure now with data
and analytics you could more so than you used to be able to but like he just he never looks like
he's on a role he never like it in terms of this year in terms of a lot of the tournaments i've obviously
players he did and he's won to come to that but in general at the majors the masters it
he doesn't necessarily look like he's firing all cylinders he doesn't look like it's tight he
doesn't look like he's just, oh, this guy can't miss.
And his finishes are outrageous.
Like he hasn't finished outside 12 since October.
What is that?
I'm going to make a very, very flattering compare.
He's got a little bit of rigs from Barstall in his game where it just, it goes in
the hole.
And these were the guys who just drove me crazy playing junior golf because I felt like
I was hitting it better than that guy.
And I was, my swing was better than that guy.
And how did he beat me by five shots?
Remember, Scotty won something like 50-something crazy.
I don't know what the number is junior turrets.
He's just, he's always been that way.
He's always been a guy who at the end of the day, he knows how to get the ball in the
bottom of that hole.
And that's the point of the game.
He's very good at that.
Him playing in the rain.
Him playing in the rain felt like him with those moving and jukeying and jiving feet in the rain.
It's a sight to be hold.
When they would throw that 4K slow cam on his legs kind of moving through the shot in the
rain, I honestly thought, we got to get this guy off the golf course.
He's going to like blow an ACL or an MCL or something.
How does that guy stand up straight?
When you watch him make contact with the ball, it makes no sense.
The guy behind you, I think is going to start packing up that camera soon.
He's cleaning up the pizza.
He literally just cleaned the pizza.
He just took his fucking plate.
He's going over to the garbage can.
He's going to start what's going to be the next 35 minutes of packing up a bag.
It's going to be the greatest thing YouTube's ever seen.
Liv golfers have won two of the last three majors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There was never denying they had good golfers.
There was never denying that.
Yeah, that's why they paid.
them like a hundred million dollars because they're what they do it's like what they did they brought over
a bunch of good golfers it's like why it was so the people that are like stunned by it like again we have to
like use rational thinking like it was so stunning because they brought over like the best golfers like
that's why it's such a crazy story they brought over brooks and cam smith and dustin johnson we're like
holy shit you mean like the best guys on the pGA tour going over this random door right now built
built by Saudi regime.
Like that's insane.
Like now we're the live like cock suckers, the people that like want on Twitter that like want
you to like that like are are politically fighting you on every single take that you have.
Act like we've by the way.
I believe those are robots.
But like they act like everyone in the world forgets that these guys were the best players
on the world.
That's why it's such a big story.
Like no one's forgetting that.
That's never been the discussion ever.
Yeah.
I will say.
There's one article that I wrote that I'm really embarrassed about.
and it was last year's
US Open it was right when they were talking about
rumors and I talked to all these sports
psychologists and stuff about how you know and there's no
there's no cut and you're not playing at the top level
how you're going to get worse and looking back on it
just what a silly fucking narrative
that was that these guys were just going to
that these guys' powers were just going to be
immediately zapped away because they're playing
on a different tour I'm embarrassed I'm embarrassed
yeah I mean look I was on
as a hardcore American from the Midwest
I was on team Europe and the greatest
route in Ryder Cup history
for TV. So it's like, we take
else. We've got to talk about.
A lot of this job is,
a lot of this job is having opinions and you're
just not going to be right most of the time.
I mean, that one, that one, yeah, but that one
was looking back and then I'm like,
I'm like, are you fucking serious that you wrote that
article, but it happens.
Whatever.
It is what it is. Puckin up.
He's been packing up. So I've got
the time. It's been about two minutes
since he started. Okay. It's going to be, I'm
telling you guys, I'm telling you guys,
it's going to be a 30 minute pack.
There's no way it's not going to be.
We're going to be wrapping this thing up.
He's still going to be there moving around packing things up.
He's not even close.
I did see that the CW is no longer going to report live viewing.
So that's why.
The numbers are so big that they're like,
we can't put these on paper.
We don't want to embarrass the PJ tour with our numbers.
That's also just in line with like the Saudi values of just like we're just,
yeah, yeah, no, we're not going to report that.
Like we just have the numbers.
You don't need a number.
What do you mean?
That didn't happen.
What number?
What TV?
What are you talking about?
I don't understand.
We got a couple interesting developments going on that I would like to touch on.
One of them is that tomorrow we'll have the first ever Barstall Classic in Trent Ryan's home state of Iowa.
Yeah, I'm here right now.
I'm in Iowa City.
I spent the weekend with my folks and my siblings in Cedar Rapids.
And then I came to Iowa City today.
Very excited.
Think fine.
It's right by Kinnick Stadium.
I drove by Kinnick today.
You know, paid my responsibility.
respects to Kirk Farrants and the football team.
And then tomorrow we're ready to go.
It's very exciting to have a Barstil Classic in Iowa.
We've been all over the country to various spots.
And now that we're coming to Iowa, hopefully not the last time, I'm very excited.
It's just going to be great to see like-minded, like-faced people tomorrow.
Yeah, I like that we, you know, I wrote down a, so last year as part of our sort of wish list for this year.
Iowa was on that wish list.
Now it's coming to fruition.
next year's wish list for the Barstville class.
I've added some interesting ones as well.
We've added, I guess.
Obviously, Huntsville, Alabama.
We're going to be going to Huntsville, Alabama next year.
I don't, this is not official.
We haven't booked these, but these are the spots that we're going to really focus our efforts.
Huntsville, Alabama.
I want to go to Rochester, New York.
Yes, that's what I was going to bring that.
Iraniquid.
I think Iraniquid.
I think there's a no brain that we do it there.
Their staff was phenomenal.
They really wanted us to come.
We kind of did a little North Korean media.
blitz on them on Thursday's show
earlier in the week. So yeah,
check in on Gina. Make sure he's still really
hot. So I put this in the group chat.
I walked by a guy on Friday and I said
that just has to be Gino.
It just, it just does. I think he
was either in a Rondicoi shirt or he's with someone in an
Rondicoi shirt and I was like that, I mean,
there's just no doubt that that's Gino.
Either Gino or not Gino, I bet it's
I got a couple DMs being like Gino's been
a problem my whole life. Like this guy
was like, he goes like, I don't want to
use my name but gino's just like been like you can't bring them around women he's just like they
all love him he's a very he's just like his wife is like perfect everything about him is perfect
like gino is just what was his last name press the giacomo i remember i'll always remember that
i'll always remember that all right so irondicoid rochester's on the list what else is on the list
gino jino gets a special exemption he doesn't have to sign up he's just in the tournament
he's it so does michael block by michael block will play in a bar
is Brooks the best golfer of my generation of watching golf as an adult?
Is he?
Is Brooks Kepka the best golfer that I've watched as like a sports viewing like adult?
Because I've only seen really like one major from Tiger.
Really?
I would still say Rory, the consistency over a lot of years.
But I think if he gets to six, then I think it goes to Brooks.
Dude, Brooks has dominated major championships since I, since I've been like 20,
three years old. Like he's just fucking
dominated also since we started
the old podcast. But the regular tournament events still matter. Like, Tiger,
we still love the 82 wins from Tiger. Like we don't not like those wins. Right, but
is it because it's Tiger, right? Like when the,
when, are we, are we notching like,
I know. I know. I know. I know.
I know. I know. They do matter. We're not taking anything away from that. I'm
not taking anything away from. I know we're juiced up right now and everything. The all
time wins thing matters. That's why tigers are so much more impressive than
Sam's 80s. You know,
Steve's eight. One of them was like a six-person exhibition. Every time they show that guy on the leader
points, get him out of here. He's got way too many fucking. Samsoni, we got to really do an audit of that
guy's championships and his wins. I mean, there was one that was like he beat like the, he beat like
the elementary school women's team and they just gave him a major for it. It was crazy.
One of my colleagues. You want to do this right now? One of my old colleagues. Yeah, one of my old
colleagues, Alex Myers wrote this article basically being like, this 82 majors is the biggest joke of all time.
He's still packing out. He's still packing out. Of course he is. I said it would be third.
30 minutes. It's been it's been seven minutes, eight minutes. He's not even close. It's great.
If you're not listening to this, if you're watching, if you're not watching this podcast,
you're doing yourself a huge disservice of not watching the greatest show it's ever been on YouTube.
It's this man in a horizontally striped polo packing up his camera gear from the PGA championship.
He's just unbelievable. Look at him. Look at him. He's analyzing every movement of those camera lenses,
taking off the tape, looking at the tape. Look at him. He's going to bend the tape now so
that bold sticky sides touch it's unbelievable are you like are you are you pulling up that article uh riggs
no you got to look up no no no no wins no i've had this list i have it in my notes and i've rattle
it off a handful of times on here and some of these lists this list is just outrageous
um i'm seeing an outrageous stat right now real quick why you looked it up for and we may have
said this today 14% of the time that brooks kepp could tease it up in a major he wins
what's the number
14%
14%
yeah
I feel like it's one of the stats
where we were all supposed to be like
oh my god but
I wanted it to feel like it should be higher
and I know it wouldn't be because it's crazy
to think that it would be higher
but 14 isn't doing it for me
14% of every major he plays in
I mean
he's played in a ton
I don't know like tigers
I don't know
wasn't tigers win percentage when he starts
like 22% or something
yeah it's been dropping steadily
it's kind of a shame honestly
14%
to love that stat, Frankie.
14% is pretty fucking high, man.
14%'s pretty fucking high in a sport
where if you win one, you're like idolized.
You know what I mean?
You're just, you're just,
you're rattling off wins like crazy.
14 didn't hit me.
I wanted it too.
It didn't hit you?
No.
Half his majors that he's ever played in,
he's finished top 10.
I like that way more.
That's a good stat because he wasn't all that good
for the first like three or four years of his career.
It's pretty amazing.
Yeah.
That's what makes his career so much.
I think we talk about like,
is it Rory?
Is it Brooks in terms of like generation of this generation?
Brooks was never that good.
He was just wasn't.
And then he was.
And Rory's always been kind of the guy.
Now we're just pretty hard to talk about all right now.
Dude,
it's,
dude,
it's honestly pure comedy that this is actually happening while we're
recording live because this happened in the last three nights.
I cannot believe he's doing it like perfectly.
He's doing it so stereotypical.
to how we thought he would have done it.
Like, we were joking pre-recording.
Like, I hope that guy comes and packs up his fucking camera.
And he's been doing it for well over 10 minutes now.
And he has no sign of stops.
He has no, he has no, he has no sign of stopping packing up that camera bag.
He has no sign of stopping packing up that camera bag.
It's unbelievable.
He's a star.
He's a star of the podcast for sure.
He's our guest.
It might be the end of the week, too.
So it might be a bigger pack up than usual.
This might be.
I mean, he's got to get it.
He's got to leave it.
He can't leave anything.
The week's over.
What's the vibe been like on location, Dan, with this Brooks Kepp going?
Yeah, good.
I mean, look, there's definitely a lot of people who have planted their flag pretty hard
of the anti-live camp.
It'll be, you know, it's interesting to see.
I'm very curious to watch live from and see what Brandl says because he's been probably the,
him and Aiman Lynch probably been the most like ardent anti-live people of all time.
But, you know, this doesn't, it wasn't because, oh, they suck.
It was because of, so nothing really changed, I guess, on that front.
But, yeah, it's fun.
Listen, it's fun when these big tournaments come to these smaller cities because the whole,
the whole area is like on fire for a week.
And they just look forward to it so, so much.
Same thing with Tulsa last year.
I bet it was, it'll be the same thing with Louisville next year.
It was everyone's just grateful to have these players that they don't get to watch very often.
The thing that I'm always, I always find interesting about Brooks is,
especially in the position that he's in now,
I always think when he gets a mic in front of him,
he's just going to like burn a bunch of bridges
and call people out and be like,
you doubted me.
But he's actually pretty normal on the mic.
I'm always waiting for him to call people out specifically,
whether they're anti-live or they were down on him
or they watch full swing and they were negative.
But he's always pretty much just like,
yeah, this has been a crazy win and I'm really happy to be here.
I always kind of want him to throw somebody under the bus.
But he doesn't.
I think he used to you more so.
He used to.
This is a more humble, it's been a more humble sort of appearance for him, it feels like.
Maybe.
Yeah, you go through some stuff and you know, you're not the guy anymore.
I think he's, I think there's, he's grateful.
He's very grateful to be back.
I've been talking to Big Cat about it because Big Cat was like, sorry for your loss today.
He's a huge, obviously, Brooks Keppka fan.
He's going to be on part of my take.
I'm sure tonight.
Big Cat's going to do all he can to get him on our show, which would be great if we can get Brooks to clear the air on here.
That'd be great.
That'd be fantastic.
But, you know, I said he's rattling off these stats.
to me and I was reading a couple of them to you guys. You guys didn't like the 14% one.
But I said to Big Cat, the thing that I don't, that I've always said about Brooks is like if he has this fire to be able to win 14% of the majors he plays in, he's top 10 and half the majors is ever played.
The guy's going to go down as one of the greatest major players of all time. He's already got five. He's only 33 years old. You said that the change between how he's played on the PGA tour and live compared to how he's played majors is astronomical. It's crazy. And I've always.
he said if he just cared more during his whole career during every tournament he's ever played in he'd be one of
the all-time greats he'd be the guy that kids are going to put their fucking picture up on the wall like we have
tiger we could have had one of those guys in terms of toughness mental and big cat said this in terms
of mental toughness he's like as close to tiger as you're going to get without being tiger woods
the guy shows up to major championships and wins like you can't beat him when he's on top you can't even
catch him you can't think about even getting to him when you see him up there obviously he'd be
blew a four-stroke lead at the masses this year on late Saturday.
But there are times where it's like you're never going to catch this guy.
I wish he would do that.
And I think I'm coming to that realization that he might just be wired that he can't perform
unless it's the biggest moment of his life.
It's the weirdest way to be wired.
I'm never going to like accept that.
It's not a normal way to be wired.
That's not something that's ever been written in the books before.
He's like writing his own book right now where it's like I can only perform under the greatest
moments ever and I can't win a PGA tour event to save my life but if you put me in the
hardest test I'm gonna win all of them I've never seen that happen before but maybe that's just who
he is are we accepting that at this point that he'll never be anything else the athlete that comes to
mind is Eli Manning yeah right this is the playoffs every year but when he makes you win the Super Bowl
just like you know pretty like solid and normal events like definitely nothing special but
just took down Brady twice because on the biggest moment he came through yeah the other I mean
the other thing about this guy with his wins is that he's won the phoenix open twice and when he
won which is like we talked about i mean that's as ruckus as it could possibly be so like clearly he
right it's like he if he needs something to get him up and when he won at the fedex st jude a couple
years ago whenever that was it was him versus rory i believe and he took that very seriously because
just shortly before that he had lost one of those battles and i remember he used that yeah he used
that afterwards when he talked about it and was like this meant a lot to me that i wanted to i was
not happy that i lost whenever whatever the details were he was kind of propelled by that so it's like
even his other three of his four pj tour wins he had something one of them is phoenix open which we
talk about is the best atmosphere in golf outside of a major and even maybe better than some majors
it's crazy how wow it is how many fans there are it's nuts so he gets up for that he got up to take
down rory i believe it was it in the fact st jude and then he's won five major championship so
It's like, you're right.
When he's, when the most is on the line and it's like if he cares, if he finds a way to care the most, he plays the best golf of anybody.
That's, that's, that's, that's an unbelievably fucking impressive.
Who else does that?
It's almost like you want him to not win a bunch more live events so that the narrative can just continue.
You know what I mean?
Because he's already won two.
So like if he just keeps ripping those off, it's like, well, now he's living on winning on live too.
Yeah.
That one's tough too because there's only like, not good, but it's just not as deep.
So it's like if he just, you know, if he beats like the other 10 really good players and like he'll probably just win some of those.
I think that was harder to do at the, obviously at the PJ tour.
But yeah, he he's impressive.
He's just insanely impressive.
Mentally.
The strongest men of the strongest mentally I've seen since Tiger Woods.
And then the other thing, the other quick note, yeah, oh yeah, still going.
I mean, he might be packing up guys.
This might be it.
He's done.
Is this, is that his exit?
He's out.
Is that our king's exit?
The desk. Is that our king's exit?
We have to just take a desk is clear.
He's gone.
Oh, my God.
Take him on.
That was pretty quick if we're being on it.
How many minutes was it?
It had to be 13, 14 minutes.
I think he started around our 56 minute.
We're at the one hour and 12 minutes.
So yeah, that was pretty fucking, it's been a long week.
That was impressive.
It would take us to pack up.
17 seconds.
Maybe it would take us to pack up.
I mean, we go on shoots every single week.
We're constantly with fucking gear.
I mean, I watch Brendan and Alex like pack up a full.
podcast with three cameras, two mic, four microphones, all this stuff.
They pack it up in like two minutes, two and a half minutes.
I mean, good amount of Barstool Classic chatter on this, Barstall Classic in Iowa for the first
time this week, Monday, Trent Ryan, the whole deal, the Ryan family, a bunch of Ryan's
running around all over the place.
Truly Hard Seltzer is the title sponsor of the Barstow Classic for five years running.
And now, now they have revolutionized the truly.
They've revolutionized the Seltzer game because they've got real vodka in there.
It's delicious juice.
It's real vodka.
That's what's going on with the Trulia vodka
seltors that people have to try out.
Yeah, we've been going to a bunch of Barstall classics this year,
and we get rave reviews on Trulis.
Everywhere we go, everywhere we go.
They're like, where are the Trulies?
Where are they?
We want to drink more of these.
Yeah, they've been the title sponsor
the Barstle Classic since the inception.
So we love Trulie.
The people who come to the tournaments love Trulie,
and everyone, if they haven't tried them,
should try them and also love Trulis.
Because it's a great practice.
They're in the blue cans now.
So they got the blue cans.
I had a bunch of buddies out there on Thursday at Bogie Hills Country Club.
And they didn't know a ton about it.
They're not necessarily there.
I got some beer drinkers.
My buddy just goes, I like the blue ones.
What are the blue ones?
I said the blue ones are their new ones that they've got.
Premium vodka, crisp, clean, refreshing taste.
They're made with real fruit juice.
So I said that to them.
I said that's fewer calories.
That's lower sugar.
It's refreshing go-to.
That's perfect for spring, perfect for the golf course.
Those blueish cans that you're drinking these out of?
Those are the truly vodka seltzers.
You can find truly vodka seltzer near you at truly hard seltzer.com.
Again, we got real juice in there.
We got real vodka in there.
It's crisp.
It's clean.
It's truly.
Find truly vodka seltzer near you at truly hard seltzer.
The other thing of note in the golf world,
we got the NCAA championships for these two weeks at Greyhawk.
Greyhawks, we've been there a bunch.
We filmed videos there.
The Barstool Classic Championship was there last year.
It's there this year as well.
So on Golf Channel, the women will be.
finishing up these next two or three days. I think they play through, I think they're just
finishing up stroke play and then match play is about to begin or just started. So I'll have to
tune back into that. But the next couple days, the women NCAA championships will be on TV
live from Greyhawk. And then right after that, the men have a practice round or two. They do
stroke play for like three days. And then they do match play. So for the next week and a half,
there's going to be a bunch of Greyhawk NCAA championships on Golf Channel on TV. So people
will be able to obviously watch that and get hyped up for that.
That's incredible.
In another realm of golf,
have you guys ever played Fisher's Island?
Yes.
I played it.
It was in a horrendous,
like the foggiest I've ever seen in that course,
the whole thing is like this.
So I basically no.
I just said,
I think I'm playing Tuesday morning.
Wow.
Taking like boats over.
I'm doing the whole thing.
I just ended up via text while we were doing this incredibly important podcast.
But I had these texts coming in being like 4.30 a.m.
wake up.
You got to be at my house.
We're taking a boat over.
to New London, Orient Point, the whole deal.
But I've looked up pictures of this place and it's like a you can't miss it when you
get invited.
And I think I'm just going to go play.
I think I'm going to go play it.
I don't know if I can pass that up.
I want you to take quite a few mental notes, Frankie, because I'm very excited to talk
about it for a Thursday show.
Because it is, it is up there.
Oh, man.
I've heard it's like a, I've heard it's like a California coast golf course in New York,
in the northeast, which is just like not to be believed.
Island that people like stay at the summer.
So there's just like small community there.
And the golf course itself is like really,
it's like kind of like old head in Ireland.
It's.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
It's right at the tip of like everything.
Yeah.
It's up there, Frankie.
Like every hole you're looking at the ocean.
It's,
it's up there.
Do you think this will be a top five course for me of all time?
It's up there.
I'm going to tell you that going in.
I'm very excited.
I'm literally laughing like a school.
I literally just laughed so loud.
And you're playing well.
Also, you're hitting it well.
Like, it's, it's going to be, I'm pumped to talk about it.
I'm grabbing a pencil from there for sure.
Yeah, you got to get a pencil.
I had some, I had some huge pencils this last weekend in St. Louis.
Somebody gave me, I think it was one of my buddies or maybe it was my brother saved it from the Dadbot Classic trip.
I can't remember.
But somebody gave me a Pebble Beach pencil, which I didn't have.
I had just not saved one.
That was massive.
I got an A rond, quoit pencil that I added to the list.
And then I got a few.
I got Spencer T. O.
One, which is an Arnold Palmer design that's just across the river in Illinois,
which we went and played on Saturday with my buddies,
which was a, it's like always a way under $100 to holler value.
When we were growing up, we could go out there, too.
We would go to this place, Arnold Palmer Design again.
So for us growing up, public course, really cool.
It's like 45 minutes from our house in St. Charles.
But we would drive over there.
It would be at 25 bucks to play on a weekend.
They would give you a ticket for a buffet breakfast and lunch.
So we'd pay fucking 25 bucks.
We would drive out to Spencer T. Olin in Alton, Illinois.
We'd play in Arnold Palmer course and then eat twice and have a blast.
So once every couple of years, we get the gang back together.
We drive out there and play.
We did that on Saturday.
So I got a pencil from there.
And then I got a Bogie Hills Country Club.
I was going to bring up with Trent having the Iowa Barstool Classic.
Bogey Hills Country Club is like one of the only country clubs in the actual town that I grew up in St.
Charles, Missouri.
It's across the highway from where I grew up.
Those pictures are awesome.
The little creek going through was at 18.
Like that was a fantastic.
They got like a waterfall.
They had a,
people might not remember,
but about five years,
six years ago.
So I talked on the show about,
um,
a clubhouse caught fire and burned down all the way to the ground.
That was Bogie Hills Country Club and they rebuilt an unbelievably sweet glovehouse.
Um,
so the whole back patio and the bar grill room opens up.
They have all these like basically,
they did like floor to ceiling windows,
all that open up around that 18th green,
which has the pond and the waterfall.
The greens are phenomenal.
They're small, but they got a bunch of slope.
And the place was popping.
I was saying before we did it,
I usually only play that course in the winter
because I go home for Thanksgiving and for Christmas.
Very rarely do I go home during like peak golf season there
because we're traveling, we're on the road,
whatever I always go home for the holidays.
So I just hadn't seen it very often in peak condition,
and it was absolutely popping.
So that was kind of one of those places that was across the street.
We didn't grow up playing country club golf.
We played Spencer T. Olin golf.
So to be able to bring the Barstall Classic there was really, really cool.
They were very appreciative.
It was a great time.
My brother and all my buddies played.
My parents were running around.
And now tomorrow, Trent Ryan gets to obviously have his home state Barstall Classic.
So we're kind of on a little.
Yeah.
Went a little run.
Love it.
Iowa City is awesome.
It's good to be back, honestly.
I haven't been here.
I heard Iowa City's fun.
I heard it's really fun.
She had a bunch of trends showing up to the Barstow Classic.
Just shaking your hand, being like, love everything you've done for this city, for this state.
Trent, too.
Yeah.
Nice to meet you.
Putting us on the map, you know?
Yeah, no, we'll see.
I'm really excited to see, you know, who shows up.
It's going to be fun.
Have you ever played that golf course that you guys are going, that you're having it at?
No.
I have not.
Okay.
At some point, I would like to play.
I'll have to come back.
But no, that's what we would play in Iowa City.
We'd play Brown Deer a lot, which you guys are not going to have a clue what that is.
But that's where we would mostly play.
Have not played Finkvine.
It's the course where the university.
to Iowa golf team practices.
So it's super nice.
Facilities are really nice.
Is this the course that Zach Johnson has Zach Johnson weigh on?
No, that's in Cedar Rapids.
Cedar Rapids.
That's like, it's like, this is like 20 minutes south of Cedar Rapids where we're at.
All right, boys.
Well, exciting stuff, Barstall Classic in Iowa.
We got Frankie's going to play Fisher's Island, it looks like, this week.
So we got a lot of good things happening.
I'm excited.
I'm excited.
Congrats to Brooks Kevka.
I know.
See if he comes on the show, maybe.
If he comes on the show, that was all thanks to Big Cat.
If he doesn't, then he just still hates us.
So it's one or the other.
You'll just see it.
I think he hates us.
Yeah.
I'm going to say 99% chance he doesn't,
but I'm just letting you know maybe if he does,
then that was all thanks to our fearless leader.
Big Cat on the Brooks front front.
He's fucking fighting for us.
He's texting me saying,
I'm fighting for you.
I'm trying to make it happen.
We appreciate it.
That's the best that you can do.
It's the best you can do is ask.
True.
Shout to the Barstool Sportsbook.
I had the biggest hit of my career,
and I will couple that with,
that every other bet I took lost for the for the PJ championship me and I did the show I think I had like five picks all of a lost I bet like a scotty sheffler versus Justin Rose first hole scotty to win and then like Justin Rose just stuck one to like an inch on the first hole and Scotty missed the green and you just it's one of those things where you just like throw your phone on the table and you're like loser never had a chance didn't even have a chance to tie Scotty makes a four he makes a three it's done golf's really hard to fucking wish it's
wager on it's hard dude i kind of have a little hot street going though where my bets for the week
don't pan out great i fire a live bullet on saturday sunday morning and that hits because i had jason day last
week plus 700 and then i hit uh brooks kebka plus 900 this week so that might be my new thing that's called
that's called being a true sharp you you want to see who looks who has the look in their eye
yeah i got in what that is i got in and i got in and insane that's a tough it's a lot of in and
in the same sentence. I got in an insane argument about if you'd rather be a professional tennis
player or golfer for the rest of your life. And a couple guys are trying to say tennis. And they're like,
I was like, dude, name the 20th ranked tennis player. And so we looked it up and it was Mattel Baratini.
And they're like, that guy's sick. Like, he's fucking always in the top of all these like opens and
championships. Like that guy has a fucking awesome life. He's fucking Italian. He's always, he's got a good
singles record. I looked up the 20th ranked
golfer. It was Jason Day. I was like
this argument means
nothing. I'm like, we can
just go through all of them. I'm like the
27th ranked player is Hideki Matsuyama.
Like the guy won the Masters. He's like the biggest
fucking Asian
athlete of all time. It's like, what
are we talking about? Being a golfer
is the best. I guess they were
just saying like it's just a grind the four days,
but tennis is a fucking grind too.
Tennis is way harder physically than golf.
That's not even more much harder, dude.
These guys are walking around like Pebble Beach looking at the ocean.
Right.
Golf.
It was the worst target of all time.
We just watched a 46-year-old PG-A teaching pro compete in a major.
Make 288 grand, which is probably like more than winning most golf events.
Kyle, you're wrong.
You're wrong.
It's a wrong argument.
I love being on the right side.
And this is kind of a pro tennis show.
We like tennis on this show.
I like to talk about it.
Yeah.
Oh.
All right, fellas.
What a, what a major?
We're halfway through the major season.
We've got, so the next big tournament will be the memorial and then the U.S.
Open.
Is that right?
There's a memorial after it.
I think it's before it.
Memorial is before the U.S. Open.
We go Charles Schwab Memorial, RBC Canadian Open, and then, which is also my wedding,
and then the U.S. Open.
Wow.
Wow.
A lot happening.
It's summertime and a golf podcast, so we got a lot happening.
Congrats to Brooks, who we've obviously been hard on many times.
The other thing I want to add, part of the reason we're hard.
on Brooks too was the bullying stuff with
Bryson. We didn't like that. I didn't like that
at all when he was basically bullying the
guy, that whole deal. So we've had
our ups and downs with the guy. If he came on the show, it would be very
interesting. Made me a lot of money, so I'm very
excited about that. It's amazing for the golf
landscape that he's back, that he's winning.
It just implicates all
kinds of fascinating discussions, so I love
it. And then Michael Block,
the Block Show, the Block Party.
He was great. So yeah, hell of a week.
Oak Hill popped. We'll be back on Thursday.
Hey, hit it hard.
It hard.
It's hard.
